Title: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 25, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
I have had an e-mail in for some advise on this fascinating project.
Interesting he designed the backbone chassis with CAD and built it.
Started out as being a hill climb car, but looks like now the build is coming along its going to be an amazing RX-8 engined road car :bravo_2: .
Interesting he designed the backbone chassis with CAD and built it.
Started out as being a hill climb car, but looks like now the build is coming along its going to be an amazing RX-8 engined road car :bravo_2: .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Whats the car? Volvo 1800 the saint looking?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 26, 2018, 07:06:23 AM
Post by: re japi on November 26, 2018, 07:06:23 AM
Lotus Elan? Mk2 S2 I think...
Looks really interesting project. Would be fun to race it tho :great:
Looks really interesting project. Would be fun to race it tho :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 26, 2018, 08:13:36 AM
Post by: clive on November 26, 2018, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: re japi on November 26, 2018, 07:06:23 AM
Lotus Elan? Mk2 S2 I think...
That's the one :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 06:24:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 06:24:53 PM
Evening all,
Thanks for posting the pics Clive. If anyone has any questions on the build just ping me a line, I'm happy to share my experiences, successes, failures etc.
It's an Elan +2 ...... Lots to do, just making a pattern for a one off fibreglass dashboard ATM..... about to start the fuel tank fabrication soon, wish me luck ......
Thanks for posting the pics Clive. If anyone has any questions on the build just ping me a line, I'm happy to share my experiences, successes, failures etc.
It's an Elan +2 ...... Lots to do, just making a pattern for a one off fibreglass dashboard ATM..... about to start the fuel tank fabrication soon, wish me luck ......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:30:20 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:30:20 PM
Welcome mate, very interesting project. Be nice if you do abuild thread, we get to see it what your doing and you get a permanent history to refer back to...i find it great on mine info ive forgotten piccys etc to jog the memory few years down the line when addressing any issues.
This car gonna see any track days?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:33:40 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:33:40 PM
Did have another silly question...lol how are you gonna get down of them ramps?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Hi there,
Yes the intention was track days after I was refused a national b licence on medical grounds, as I was going to do hill climbs, with a view to use this car in the sports libre class after I got a few years under my belt.
But, with track days you get more time than a 1 minute run up the hill twice a day......
Bit new to all the forum stuff so I'll post some pics when I find my way around the site, the build has advanced a little since the other pics, so keep tuned.
Question while I'm here, I've been speaking to Clive the other week on fuel pumps, filters etc.
I've ordered all the aluminium sheet today to build my tank and Clive had mentioned 8mm tails on the pump, so here goes with a few questions if anyone can help?.....
1. On the outlet and return, with 8mm tails, is that o.d. Or I.d.
2. Will push fit fuel hose suffice for the pressures of fuel injection or should I be using JIC -6 fittings?
3. I want to retain the stock rx8 instrument panel, the stock tank uses 2 X fuel senders, I was intending on buying a universal sender, but the ohms need to match the clocks, looking on the manual, the stock sender is 9 ohms when full and around 322 ohms when empty. I could possibly get a sender in that range, but if I use 1 instead of the 2 in the stock set up, is something likely to get confused?.. I don't really want to add an aftermarket fuel gauge.....
Any help is greatly appreciated...
Oh, and while there's no glass in I use the overhead crane lol it's still light, even with the newly fitted integral roll cage. I gave a pit, but when I'm going to be working on the new wings, I want the car at a decent working height 😆
Yes the intention was track days after I was refused a national b licence on medical grounds, as I was going to do hill climbs, with a view to use this car in the sports libre class after I got a few years under my belt.
But, with track days you get more time than a 1 minute run up the hill twice a day......
Bit new to all the forum stuff so I'll post some pics when I find my way around the site, the build has advanced a little since the other pics, so keep tuned.
Question while I'm here, I've been speaking to Clive the other week on fuel pumps, filters etc.
I've ordered all the aluminium sheet today to build my tank and Clive had mentioned 8mm tails on the pump, so here goes with a few questions if anyone can help?.....
1. On the outlet and return, with 8mm tails, is that o.d. Or I.d.
2. Will push fit fuel hose suffice for the pressures of fuel injection or should I be using JIC -6 fittings?
3. I want to retain the stock rx8 instrument panel, the stock tank uses 2 X fuel senders, I was intending on buying a universal sender, but the ohms need to match the clocks, looking on the manual, the stock sender is 9 ohms when full and around 322 ohms when empty. I could possibly get a sender in that range, but if I use 1 instead of the 2 in the stock set up, is something likely to get confused?.. I don't really want to add an aftermarket fuel gauge.....
Any help is greatly appreciated...
Oh, and while there's no glass in I use the overhead crane lol it's still light, even with the newly fitted integral roll cage. I gave a pit, but when I'm going to be working on the new wings, I want the car at a decent working height 😆
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
Stock rx8 pressure is 4 bar, Clive wouldve meant 8mm id. Nothing fancy required upto you i just use 8mm id fuel hose with fuel clips ( not jubiless) they fix to the rx8 push fit fuel hose connector at fuel pot and fuel rail.
The rx8 runs a returnless fuel system so unless intending to use a swirl pot not needed.
That said i cant run my westy below 1/4 of a tank else i get fuel cut in the corners so best practice baffle your tank or incorporate a swirl pot within? Ive added a fuel filter a systec 1 within my engine bay the rx8 fuel pot houses a filter inside it that can block over time...it all depends what you decide to run..
I didnt manage to get the fuel system to work on 1 sender..Paul on here has in his 8 converted mx5...worth reading his thread and asking him.
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The rx8 runs a returnless fuel system so unless intending to use a swirl pot not needed.
That said i cant run my westy below 1/4 of a tank else i get fuel cut in the corners so best practice baffle your tank or incorporate a swirl pot within? Ive added a fuel filter a systec 1 within my engine bay the rx8 fuel pot houses a filter inside it that can block over time...it all depends what you decide to run..
I didnt manage to get the fuel system to work on 1 sender..Paul on here has in his 8 converted mx5...worth reading his thread and asking him.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
Track work...cool...comes with a few headaches ive found the hardway with the Westy on slicks...
Oil starvation...oil moves up the fill tube away from the pick up pipe on hard right handers...best to fit a sump baffle or gated sump and a catch tank....i also dumped the omp. Its stilll on car blindly working but it does not inject 2t oil.
This allows me to run 5w40 fully synthethic oil and so far so good.
My car was for racing but i got demoralised being in the top class with a 1300 lol so trackdays it is for me.
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Oil starvation...oil moves up the fill tube away from the pick up pipe on hard right handers...best to fit a sump baffle or gated sump and a catch tank....i also dumped the omp. Its stilll on car blindly working but it does not inject 2t oil.
This allows me to run 5w40 fully synthethic oil and so far so good.
My car was for racing but i got demoralised being in the top class with a 1300 lol so trackdays it is for me.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Thanks for the pearls of wisdom booster
I'll see if I can find Pauls mx5 on here
J
I'll see if I can find Pauls mx5 on here
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
Worth a read of mine too. Ive pretty much documented the whole Westfield rx8 journey since buying it...taking in apart, rewire, crash x2 engine blow ups still chasing the castle combe 1.14 lap.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 02, 2018, 08:47:40 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2018, 08:47:40 PM
:welcome: Jamie, see I did say people would be interested ;)
Keep us posted and as you have already found, people are willing to help with this wonderful project :great:
Keep us posted and as you have already found, people are willing to help with this wonderful project :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 06:53:01 AM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 06:53:01 AM
Yep, these kind of builds/swaps are always interesting. 
Even tho I dont really care for Lotus, hats off to you cause choosing unlikely car for this kind of build 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 06:56:08 AM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 06:56:08 AM
Just realized, I actually dont know why I dont like Lotus 
Anyhoo, do you know how much that thing is going to weight?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:11:03 AM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: re japi on December 03, 2018, 06:56:08 AM
Just realized, I actually dont know why I dont like Lotus
Anyhoo, do you know how much that thing is going to weight?
Colin Chapman invented the go fast formula " added lightness"....pretty much a pioneer in aero too when lotus where in F1.
Gotta love a Lotus! Silly boy Jarno!!!lol :13: even though i thought it was a p1800 The saint car ha ha but i didnt have my glasses on...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 09:19:25 AM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 09:19:25 AM
I do know what Mr Chapman did. He is true inventor and genious. But his road cars, for some reason I dont like them, except 7... Yeah, Im a weirdo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
Lol...if we all liked the same thing life would be boring..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Btw, my opinion, most impressive thing that Chapman did, was inventing/using mono...(i dont know how to type it)..qoc structure/chassis...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:39:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:39:25 PM
Hey Re Japi
Lotus didn't have the best reputation for reliability, but Colin Chapman, was a clever man back in the day.
Lots of individuals have slated me for "ruining" a traditional British sport scar.
My take on it is, everything can be improved upon, and following Colin Chapman's mind-set back in the day of pulling stuff out of parts bins and making them work. I'm sure if he was still alive today he too would use a rotary power plant as he was all for lightweight vehicles over huge HP.
I'm aiming for around 700-800 Kgs all in. I still have lots of lightening to do, even though its fibreglass, the doors feature 1960's technology of electric windows and each door weighs as much as a nuclear power station....... its ridiculous!
The reason I choose a Lotus Elan was it was my ex bosses car, I got the complete car for £1000, and to be fair, it was in a sorry state, I bought a non running RX8 for £700. Weirdly, im not sure if its the colour, but the lines and the stance reminded me of the Mazda 110 Cosmo, cogs started whirring and I decided to amalgamate the 2.
The rest they say is history
Lotus didn't have the best reputation for reliability, but Colin Chapman, was a clever man back in the day.
Lots of individuals have slated me for "ruining" a traditional British sport scar.
My take on it is, everything can be improved upon, and following Colin Chapman's mind-set back in the day of pulling stuff out of parts bins and making them work. I'm sure if he was still alive today he too would use a rotary power plant as he was all for lightweight vehicles over huge HP.
I'm aiming for around 700-800 Kgs all in. I still have lots of lightening to do, even though its fibreglass, the doors feature 1960's technology of electric windows and each door weighs as much as a nuclear power station....... its ridiculous!
The reason I choose a Lotus Elan was it was my ex bosses car, I got the complete car for £1000, and to be fair, it was in a sorry state, I bought a non running RX8 for £700. Weirdly, im not sure if its the colour, but the lines and the stance reminded me of the Mazda 110 Cosmo, cogs started whirring and I decided to amalgamate the 2.
The rest they say is history
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:43:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:43:18 PM
A few more pics of randoms
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:46:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:46:08 PM
..................and a view more which brings us up to date roughly
.........dashboard pics to follow along with fuel tank.....
.........dashboard pics to follow along with fuel tank.....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 05:04:20 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 05:04:20 PM
I can see that your a fabricator ! Air intake good idea to fit 1 of the rx8 air straightners.in your intake. (Sieve mesh circular thingy)..sorts out the airflow so the maf can get a proper reading...without throws lean codes.
Your gonna be quick at 850kg ! My westy is 560kg and accelerates like a cbr600...
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Your gonna be quick at 850kg ! My westy is 560kg and accelerates like a cbr600...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Hey boosted,
Not booster like the other night, damn fat fingers!
If you revert to the pic with the intake, you'll see a shot of a aluminium 90 degree bend.
On either end of that bend there's a silicone coupler with a bellow in it, there's both the sieve mesh thingys installed either end of the 90 bend inside the bellow, I pulled the other mesh out of the air box and tried to keep them as close to the original distance apart as the stock set up.
But really appreciate the heads up :13:
Not booster like the other night, damn fat fingers!
If you revert to the pic with the intake, you'll see a shot of a aluminium 90 degree bend.
On either end of that bend there's a silicone coupler with a bellow in it, there's both the sieve mesh thingys installed either end of the 90 bend inside the bellow, I pulled the other mesh out of the air box and tried to keep them as close to the original distance apart as the stock set up.
But really appreciate the heads up :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:24:36 PM
It's wiring and plumbing that freaks me out, fabricating and CAD is simple, I've built a few cars and motorbikes
Had a red top Vauxhall powered mk1 escort estate featured in classic ford magazine and made the front cover...... But that's not for this site lolll
.......but this is my first rotary, first project with fuel injection........ It's all alien, almost witch craft......like the womb!
Had a red top Vauxhall powered mk1 escort estate featured in classic ford magazine and made the front cover...... But that's not for this site lolll
.......but this is my first rotary, first project with fuel injection........ It's all alien, almost witch craft......like the womb!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Lol...opposite to me then...love the efi and wiring...carbs get me all confused my mig is good but tig no ..when you get to wiring i can steer you in right direction, send you a drawing to cut the loom down to bare minimum lightweight loom .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:52:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 05:52:20 PM
You're Ace!
Clive said you're a good egg too!
Carbs are "analogue" haha.
Well, one good offer deserves another, so like wise, if you need any TIG stuff knocking up I can help, or you need any CAD stuff doing, maybe you need to get some stuff laser cut, I can send you the DXF's and works drawings across.
Right, im off to look at the plumbing on the fuel lines on the RX8 manuals, somebody not to far from here told be theres no fuel return line to the tank, so thats blown my design apart lol
Clive said you're a good egg too!
Carbs are "analogue" haha.
Well, one good offer deserves another, so like wise, if you need any TIG stuff knocking up I can help, or you need any CAD stuff doing, maybe you need to get some stuff laser cut, I can send you the DXF's and works drawings across.
Right, im off to look at the plumbing on the fuel lines on the RX8 manuals, somebody not to far from here told be theres no fuel return line to the tank, so thats blown my design apart lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 06:09:15 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 06:09:15 PM
Cool thanks i have a habit of crashing!!!, the fuel design is simple. The fuel pot hoses the pump in the middle it pulls up loops back into the body that houses a filter and out of that into a fpr at 4 bar...(not 40psi as i think i said earlier got psi and bar round wrong way). It vents into tank and incorporates a syphon that pulls fuel over from the other side of the saddle tank on the 8.
Mine house the rx8 fuelpot into the tank albeit with a longer body to scavenge from the bottom of the tank. So it is returnless but no issue having an engine bay fpr and running a return...think about a swirlpot. Rotaries are thirsty and i have a 25l tank that i pretty much have to refill at 8l else i risk fuel cut in corners...which on a lightweight car is enough to lock the rear wheels up!!!! Scary Mary time
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Mine house the rx8 fuelpot into the tank albeit with a longer body to scavenge from the bottom of the tank. So it is returnless but no issue having an engine bay fpr and running a return...think about a swirlpot. Rotaries are thirsty and i have a 25l tank that i pretty much have to refill at 8l else i risk fuel cut in corners...which on a lightweight car is enough to lock the rear wheels up!!!! Scary Mary time
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 06:15:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 06:15:44 PM
Ok ill ping a design image across shortly for you to vet it.
I need to get used to these acronyms for car parts too. Theres plenty in the manuals too :-X ::) :( :dontknow:
No shame in crashing! just stay alive !!!
I need to get used to these acronyms for car parts too. Theres plenty in the manuals too :-X ::) :( :dontknow:
No shame in crashing! just stay alive !!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 06:16:51 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 06:16:51 PM
I see youve still got the airpump on the engine you can junk that too...emmisions stuff for the cat..save some weight. Cap the vacuum end and manifold.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Ok cool, ill do that....
Makes more room too, the engine bay is tight.
Pics of the tank below.
designed to fit above the diff between the rear wheels and mounted on the roll cage cross bar behind the seats.
Natural taper of the car body allows fuel to drain to the "sump"
Tank capacity is 85 litres, sump capacity is 1.5 litres
Outlet to the in line pump is at the bottom of the sump, return pipe feeds back into the sump through the "drain hole", the thought process was making an in tank swirl pot. The sump is always full of fuel, by gravity from the main tank and the return line from the FPR (get me!!)
At 1.5 litres it probably wont need anymore baffles, I doubt much fuel will escape back out the 25mm "drain hole"
Ive left all the internal baffles in the main tank at this stage but will probably be a huge X baffle from corner to corner with some gates or holes in certain place.
Thoughts?
Makes more room too, the engine bay is tight.
Pics of the tank below.
designed to fit above the diff between the rear wheels and mounted on the roll cage cross bar behind the seats.
Natural taper of the car body allows fuel to drain to the "sump"
Tank capacity is 85 litres, sump capacity is 1.5 litres
Outlet to the in line pump is at the bottom of the sump, return pipe feeds back into the sump through the "drain hole", the thought process was making an in tank swirl pot. The sump is always full of fuel, by gravity from the main tank and the return line from the FPR (get me!!)
At 1.5 litres it probably wont need anymore baffles, I doubt much fuel will escape back out the 25mm "drain hole"
Ive left all the internal baffles in the main tank at this stage but will probably be a huge X baffle from corner to corner with some gates or holes in certain place.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:04:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:04:13 PM
Oh yeah, sorry
My pc in the shed is oldddddd, running XP Pro !!!!
And yes, I did use paint to capture the pics...........the shame!
My pc in the shed is oldddddd, running XP Pro !!!!
And yes, I did use paint to capture the pics...........the shame!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Yes very nice..like the idea should be fine. 85 litres!!! Kerching to fill up mind!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:59:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 07:59:24 PM
Lol
Previous variants were 58 litres and 46 litres.
Decided to make it fill up the area behind the seats,
May have more room for the standard fuel level senders albeit leant over a bit.
Yeah, it's a bit pricey, but looking on the bright side, the tank is low, and it's putting the weight in the middle of the car.
Hoping to fit the pump and filter underneath behind the drivers seat, and the battery on t'other side under the tank.
Enough about me, gonna have a peek at the westy.......
Previous variants were 58 litres and 46 litres.
Decided to make it fill up the area behind the seats,
May have more room for the standard fuel level senders albeit leant over a bit.
Yeah, it's a bit pricey, but looking on the bright side, the tank is low, and it's putting the weight in the middle of the car.
Hoping to fit the pump and filter underneath behind the drivers seat, and the battery on t'other side under the tank.
Enough about me, gonna have a peek at the westy.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 08:02:21 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 08:02:21 PM
Youll need a cuppa tea its a big read....some vids...roller coaster of ups n downs learning...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 08:24:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 08:24:48 PM
Do you have a link, or point me to it? Still can't locate it .......
Having a blonde moment .........if I even had hair !
Having a blonde moment .........if I even had hair !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
Cosmo and other rotary car type sub heading.
In there few links broken photobucket early on 2400 posts...lol back to 2014.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Top tip number 1 put the dishwasher on again and say it's still dirty.
That's effin genius hahaha,
Told my better half, she said "but we don't have a dishwasher" I said "I do, it does the ironing as well"
...........
That's effin genius hahaha,
Told my better half, she said "but we don't have a dishwasher" I said "I do, it does the ironing as well"
...........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2018, 09:33:57 PM
Lol! Yeah ive learnt pay in forward now ha ha.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:02:23 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:02:23 AM
Boosteds topic
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:09:48 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:09:48 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 03, 2018, 01:39:25 PMWeeeeellll, does any british car have reputation to be reliable
Hey Re Japi
Lotus didn't have the best reputation for reliability, but Colin Chapman, was a clever man back in the day.
Lots of individuals have slated me for "ruining" a traditional British sport scar.
My take on it is, everything can be improved upon, and following Colin Chapman's mind-set back in the day of pulling stuff out of parts bins and making them work. I'm sure if he was still alive today he too would use a rotary power plant as he was all for lightweight vehicles over huge HP.
I'm aiming for around 700-800 Kgs all in. I still have lots of lightening to do, even though its fibreglass, the doors feature 1960's technology of electric windows and each door weighs as much as a nuclear power station....... its ridiculous!
The reason I choose a Lotus Elan was it was my ex bosses car, I got the complete car for £1000, and to be fair, it was in a sorry state, I bought a non running RX8 for £700. Weirdly, im not sure if its the colour, but the lines and the stance reminded me of the Mazda 110 Cosmo, cogs started whirring and I decided to amalgamate the 2.
The rest they say is history
For me, I love old school stuff. And I do like swaps. But I dont like if some rapes rare car. Howerer, I dont think Elan is that rare and iconic, so I think you are good to go
Amazing fabrication stuff! Good job.
Hopefully some day I can see her finished... With that, chassis and engine, that weight and weight distribution, that car is going to be awesome
As for carb stuff, I dont know nothing about turbos, ecus and that electrical stuff. And I started to do rebuild with all those stuff, so I think Im in trouble
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 08:49:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 08:49:10 AM
Thanks for the link Japi
....and the kind words, I just wing it, I think about it a few times, think what the knock on effect is coz any decision is bound to change 4 or 5 other variables. I don't like going wrong and doing stuff all over again. I like to do my homework, and this place is a font of knowledge!
I started the build on Boxing Day last year, I think the build will see another couple of Boxing Days yet, finances permitting.
Boosted! saw your vids on "the tube of you" pretty impressive stuff!
As for your quote of "I crash a lot".....well youre not hanging about, you blast past everything in sight, you give everyone a friendly wave of thanks, your helmet is bobbing about like a nodding dog, so you must be getting some "G's" on the bends.
I just waiting a phone call from upstairs at work to see why Im browsing 161 pages of a westfield build on my internet history LOL!
....and the kind words, I just wing it, I think about it a few times, think what the knock on effect is coz any decision is bound to change 4 or 5 other variables. I don't like going wrong and doing stuff all over again. I like to do my homework, and this place is a font of knowledge!
I started the build on Boxing Day last year, I think the build will see another couple of Boxing Days yet, finances permitting.
Boosted! saw your vids on "the tube of you" pretty impressive stuff!
As for your quote of "I crash a lot".....well youre not hanging about, you blast past everything in sight, you give everyone a friendly wave of thanks, your helmet is bobbing about like a nodding dog, so you must be getting some "G's" on the bends.
I just waiting a phone call from upstairs at work to see why Im browsing 161 pages of a westfield build on my internet history LOL!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
I think Im more impressed that you managed to shoe horn that engine into a westy!
For a small engine, its still tall with all the air intake and oil filler neck.
Ive had to make a few incisions in my stock bonnet to get it to close, more fibreglassing ahead!
Thankfully my sump is 5mm up from any chassis rails. I set the suspension pick up points on the chassis so I can run a 5" ride height on the underside of the chassis to the floor without all the arms pointing at stupid angles and upsetting the handling. If possible I want this car road legal so need to consider speed humps and pot holes down my road.
That's a 1" drop from the standard lotus, so everything moves up inside the car and the roof is only 47" off the floor.... GT47 ??? nah
Bit of a squeeze for a tubby like me hahaha
Im planning on running a full front to back underfloor diffuser to try and get a bit more suck down at speeds, but that will be trial and error once its running.
For a small engine, its still tall with all the air intake and oil filler neck.
Ive had to make a few incisions in my stock bonnet to get it to close, more fibreglassing ahead!
Thankfully my sump is 5mm up from any chassis rails. I set the suspension pick up points on the chassis so I can run a 5" ride height on the underside of the chassis to the floor without all the arms pointing at stupid angles and upsetting the handling. If possible I want this car road legal so need to consider speed humps and pot holes down my road.
That's a 1" drop from the standard lotus, so everything moves up inside the car and the roof is only 47" off the floor.... GT47 ??? nah
Bit of a squeeze for a tubby like me hahaha
Im planning on running a full front to back underfloor diffuser to try and get a bit more suck down at speeds, but that will be trial and error once its running.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
Cheers mate...its fun! Replaces motorbikes for me.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 12:52:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 12:52:46 PM
And you cant lose your license !
I went to Merlin Motorsport for some roll cage tube earlier this year, there was an owners day or track day going on.
Police with zapper guns everywhere on the country lanes surrounding Castle Combe trying to pick off individuals who still have adrenaline from the day
I went to Merlin Motorsport for some roll cage tube earlier this year, there was an owners day or track day going on.
Police with zapper guns everywhere on the country lanes surrounding Castle Combe trying to pick off individuals who still have adrenaline from the day
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 01:34:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 01:34:57 PM
Hey Boosted
You mentioned losing the air pump which is fine, I had relocated it, and modified pieces on the valve for more clearance on the headers.
That's not an issue I bought a stainless exhaust manifold flange from Clive earlier this year and can blank the hole up.
Looking through the manuals, I've noticed ancillary parts like on the pics below, charcoal canisters and some EVAP doo dahs that if I remember correctly sat under the boot floor high up above the diff.
Can this be junked as well?
Ive ruled everything in at this stage so I can rule it out, like my Decat pipe, I can run the standard Cat in the engine bay (pic attached) between the engine and bulkhead, it bolts to the bellhousing and thought just in case Mr. MOT inspector wanted it, its 7 bolts to swap it out.
If you can think of other stuff I can junk, just shout ..........
You mentioned losing the air pump which is fine, I had relocated it, and modified pieces on the valve for more clearance on the headers.
That's not an issue I bought a stainless exhaust manifold flange from Clive earlier this year and can blank the hole up.
Looking through the manuals, I've noticed ancillary parts like on the pics below, charcoal canisters and some EVAP doo dahs that if I remember correctly sat under the boot floor high up above the diff.
Can this be junked as well?
Ive ruled everything in at this stage so I can rule it out, like my Decat pipe, I can run the standard Cat in the engine bay (pic attached) between the engine and bulkhead, it bolts to the bellhousing and thought just in case Mr. MOT inspector wanted it, its 7 bolts to swap it out.
If you can think of other stuff I can junk, just shout ..........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
Yeah easy sport really picking off cars leaving shows....but with youtube and this craze of leaving shows doing burnouts and drifts that everybody films and sticks on youtube im not surprised...
Problem is locals quite rightly complain and thsts another circuit shutdown...!!!
Defo go the road legal route excellent for shaking down before a trackday...mines got a daytime mot..its a pig on road and very worried about the sump hitting mind.
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Problem is locals quite rightly complain and thsts another circuit shutdown...!!!
Defo go the road legal route excellent for shaking down before a trackday...mines got a daytime mot..its a pig on road and very worried about the sump hitting mind.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
All the canister stuff can go. Just remember to cap any vac lines on the plastic intake manifold.
Mot wise...Elan is precat 92 so im 99% sure wont be needed. All the new regs ar 2006 onwards.
I have no cat as car is a Q plate! Emmisions exempt booyar! I also got it sucessfully registered as a 1300cc so cheaper tax. 3 attempt with dvla mind.
Id considered wrapping the exhaust crossover pipe...its gonna get very very hot...ive burnt my leg several times on mine!
I think with a cat in that place you could probably melt the intake....serious heat and noise is rotary!
Mine tests static noise test between 92 and 94dB with a 9" repackable silencer from Torque Techniques in Salisbury...its not got any louder...he said quote" argghh Rotary i know what cloth to use from my Janspeed days" ..silencers been great.
No cat equals flames!!!!
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Mot wise...Elan is precat 92 so im 99% sure wont be needed. All the new regs ar 2006 onwards.
I have no cat as car is a Q plate! Emmisions exempt booyar! I also got it sucessfully registered as a 1300cc so cheaper tax. 3 attempt with dvla mind.
Id considered wrapping the exhaust crossover pipe...its gonna get very very hot...ive burnt my leg several times on mine!
I think with a cat in that place you could probably melt the intake....serious heat and noise is rotary!
Mine tests static noise test between 92 and 94dB with a 9" repackable silencer from Torque Techniques in Salisbury...its not got any louder...he said quote" argghh Rotary i know what cloth to use from my Janspeed days" ..silencers been great.
No cat equals flames!!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 02:03:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 02:03:13 PM
Well Im hoping the Elan is tax free anyway lol ! The Mk1 escort and 1947 Chevy Truck were and they had engine swaps.
Im not fussed about the loops holes of the system, if I get stung, Ill have a track day weapon, just trailer it everywhere.
Whats your view on the decat pipe? (pic further up the post) I have no room anywhere else for an exhaust without chopping my legs off, the front wheel axle line on your westy is a bit further forward than my set up so your headers come straight out the side and I cant move my engine back any further.
I did plan on ceramic coating the hole engine bay with that sticky backed stuff, wrapping the exhaust although I think it looks hideous and having serious vents in the bonnet to let the air out.
Was trying to get clever with bonnet design and drawing radiator air out the front of the bonnet and another inlet and outlet to allow incoming air to draw the hot air of the exhaust out. Bit like that vent you have behind your air filter on the westy.
Ive seen plenty of videos on the web of glowing red exhausts on 8's and 7's so I thought with the location of the cat or the decat pipe its like a windscreen de-icer for the winter lol.
Im not fussed about the loops holes of the system, if I get stung, Ill have a track day weapon, just trailer it everywhere.
Whats your view on the decat pipe? (pic further up the post) I have no room anywhere else for an exhaust without chopping my legs off, the front wheel axle line on your westy is a bit further forward than my set up so your headers come straight out the side and I cant move my engine back any further.
I did plan on ceramic coating the hole engine bay with that sticky backed stuff, wrapping the exhaust although I think it looks hideous and having serious vents in the bonnet to let the air out.
Was trying to get clever with bonnet design and drawing radiator air out the front of the bonnet and another inlet and outlet to allow incoming air to draw the hot air of the exhaust out. Bit like that vent you have behind your air filter on the westy.
Ive seen plenty of videos on the web of glowing red exhausts on 8's and 7's so I thought with the location of the cat or the decat pipe its like a windscreen de-icer for the winter lol.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
the decat looks fine to me it wont get anywhere near as hot as a cat...the cat it that position does concern me i think you'd have a fire. :angryfire: The radiant heat from the cat is immense.
The specialist coating zircotec would be awesome but doing the manifold and decat pipe would be alot of dosh i think but would be epic in controlling the heat. I know the wrap is unsightly but it does work. I think braided fuel hose in the engine compartment would be safe choice.
Youve got to work with what room youve got and the manifold is ace, nice flowing bends and big bore so should be fine, just the heat to deal with.
where the steering column on your car? I have to remove mine pulling/fitting engine? as inlet and manifold over under it.
The specialist coating zircotec would be awesome but doing the manifold and decat pipe would be alot of dosh i think but would be epic in controlling the heat. I know the wrap is unsightly but it does work. I think braided fuel hose in the engine compartment would be safe choice.
Youve got to work with what room youve got and the manifold is ace, nice flowing bends and big bore so should be fine, just the heat to deal with.
where the steering column on your car? I have to remove mine pulling/fitting engine? as inlet and manifold over under it.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Im in the same boat......
2 headers loop under the column, 1 loops over it.
No decent pics of it yet.
Ive got pie cut exhaust headers all the way up to the collector, some parts are only tacked and there are only tacks on the manifold flange.
Cant finish it till the engine comes out.
Back to the column......that will be heat shielded too,
2 headers loop under the column, 1 loops over it.
No decent pics of it yet.
Ive got pie cut exhaust headers all the way up to the collector, some parts are only tacked and there are only tacks on the manifold flange.
Cant finish it till the engine comes out.
Back to the column......that will be heat shielded too,
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 03:27:41 PM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 03:27:41 PM
Jon had good point there, exhaust is super hot! Then, N/A rotarys are really really sentive about headers. Can compare 2stroke tuning, you can lose or gain lots of power with crappy exhaust...
Also, you need to figure out how to get maximum air flow to radiator and oil cooler(s). Rotarys are really sensitive about those. Water cools about 70% from engine massive heat, and oil cools rest. Howerer, in rotary oil needs to be really good and in good temp...
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Also, you need to figure out how to get maximum air flow to radiator and oil cooler(s). Rotarys are really sensitive about those. Water cools about 70% from engine massive heat, and oil cools rest. Howerer, in rotary oil needs to be really good and in good temp...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 03:41:10 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 03:41:10 PM
Somebody on rx8club said my exhaust manifold was rubbish! Dont know enough about exhaust tuning to disagree but if my straight out headers 1 bend each into a 3 inch straight through silencer is worse than the stock log manifold id be very surprised...
There was talk of unequal length is best to accomodate the exhaust pulses but at 5000 to 9000 rpms thats 1 hell of lot of pulses and unequal or not there gonna collide at the collector unless your a maths genuis ...my take would be you got to work with what space youve got and try and make it as free flowing as possible, which i believe mine does. The stock rx8 manifold is a brick wall for gas flow but Mazda had to work with the space they had.
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There was talk of unequal length is best to accomodate the exhaust pulses but at 5000 to 9000 rpms thats 1 hell of lot of pulses and unequal or not there gonna collide at the collector unless your a maths genuis ...my take would be you got to work with what space youve got and try and make it as free flowing as possible, which i believe mine does. The stock rx8 manifold is a brick wall for gas flow but Mazda had to work with the space they had.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:44:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:44:00 PM
That's an interesting point.
I've had opposite feedback about the headers on the RX8 because of the side port and its not as sensitive as the RX7 with peripheral ports.
I've designed and built a few expansion chambers for 2 stroke bikes, and yes I take on board your point.
Look at the standard RX8 manifold, its rubbish, the front port exhaust gas has to travel much further as a percentage compared to the rear port before it gets to the cat.
I emailed Racing beat in America, and they said they had run several different options on header length and when dyno'd made little difference because of the side port and you don't get the same benefit from the "pulse"
So from experiences, I've made the exhaust headers long enough to make them work practically and a lot of people in the 4 stroke world like "equal length headers" but some are as much as 10" difference in length. I've managed to keep all 3 headers with 100mm of one another just to balance things out as near as I could.
And yes I've heard that too about the oil coolers. I've stuck with the stock ones as Im only going for a Bridgeport and an Adaptronic ECU in terms of tuning, so im happy around the 280 Bhp mark if possible.
The bumper will be custom made in fibreglass too, and will probably resemble a fish with a gaping mouth LOL. I don't have any constraints in terms of air flow into the radiators, but more about room getting the air out, which is equally important.
I do appreciate the feedback though, its good to share stuff as it leads to good ideas. :13:
I've had opposite feedback about the headers on the RX8 because of the side port and its not as sensitive as the RX7 with peripheral ports.
I've designed and built a few expansion chambers for 2 stroke bikes, and yes I take on board your point.
Look at the standard RX8 manifold, its rubbish, the front port exhaust gas has to travel much further as a percentage compared to the rear port before it gets to the cat.
I emailed Racing beat in America, and they said they had run several different options on header length and when dyno'd made little difference because of the side port and you don't get the same benefit from the "pulse"
So from experiences, I've made the exhaust headers long enough to make them work practically and a lot of people in the 4 stroke world like "equal length headers" but some are as much as 10" difference in length. I've managed to keep all 3 headers with 100mm of one another just to balance things out as near as I could.
And yes I've heard that too about the oil coolers. I've stuck with the stock ones as Im only going for a Bridgeport and an Adaptronic ECU in terms of tuning, so im happy around the 280 Bhp mark if possible.
The bumper will be custom made in fibreglass too, and will probably resemble a fish with a gaping mouth LOL. I don't have any constraints in terms of air flow into the radiators, but more about room getting the air out, which is equally important.
I do appreciate the feedback though, its good to share stuff as it leads to good ideas. :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:46:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 03:46:08 PM
I think ive just echoed Jon's post there LOL
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 04:24:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 04:24:39 PM
Just read back on my post, and it sounds REALLY condescending reading it back.
Apologies if its rubbed anyone the wrong way.......... tone and context is difficult to express in text!!
Was just trying to be informative :-[
Apologies if its rubbed anyone the wrong way.......... tone and context is difficult to express in text!!
Was just trying to be informative :-[
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Did not come come across that way to me so dont worry.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
Yeah, and I dont understand anything anyways
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:33:19 PM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2018, 06:33:19 PM
As for headers, I dont know much about renesis headers. But yes, exhaust ports are very restricting and narrow. So I would imagine that good flowing header is much easier to build than stock one.
Howerer, theres much tests and tips how rotary headers for Peripheral exhaust should be made. One key tip is that first you go with straight pipe for 5cm and only after that can first curve begin. Also, there is few best choise of header leghts. But what I have found out, many will build too restrictin collector...
Im sure that Hayward knows best lengts for Renny headers. But I think aftermarket like RBs are really good too
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Howerer, theres much tests and tips how rotary headers for Peripheral exhaust should be made. One key tip is that first you go with straight pipe for 5cm and only after that can first curve begin. Also, there is few best choise of header leghts. But what I have found out, many will build too restrictin collector...
Im sure that Hayward knows best lengts for Renny headers. But I think aftermarket like RBs are really good too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 06:48:41 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2018, 06:48:41 PM
Yeah Carl started explaining it to me once i nodded approvingly and i think he thought i understood but it was abit lost on me...lol
Then I had a conversation with Clive about exhaust gas scavenging again i got the jist but yeah but no but...lol.
Just get in and floor it....if it feels fast happy days.
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Then I had a conversation with Clive about exhaust gas scavenging again i got the jist but yeah but no but...lol.
Just get in and floor it....if it feels fast happy days.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
Maybe Clive could impart some of his knowledge on here :))
I too never claimed to be an expert, but if a theory sounds logical I'll go with that.
Im with you Jon ! just floor it
I too never claimed to be an expert, but if a theory sounds logical I'll go with that.
Im with you Jon ! just floor it
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 04, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
I would say that you already have long enough primary pipes for good scavenging anyway. From memory Mazda found that really long primary before being collected made better top end, however to keep the engine tractable what you have is great.
Beautiful pipe craft but please lose the cat, but if you really want one in the system a smaller outside diameter Hi-Flow cat could be used to get the pipework away from the inlet.
As you would know super heating the inlet mixture is never good as you always need the opposite, i.e. a cold dense mixture. Although expensive, Zicotech plasma spray coating will solve this for the manifold plus keep the engine bay cool.
Amazing stuff, even on the race cars turbo straight after a race you could put your hand virtually on the hot side of the turbo!
Hope this helps
Beautiful pipe craft but please lose the cat, but if you really want one in the system a smaller outside diameter Hi-Flow cat could be used to get the pipework away from the inlet.
As you would know super heating the inlet mixture is never good as you always need the opposite, i.e. a cold dense mixture. Although expensive, Zicotech plasma spray coating will solve this for the manifold plus keep the engine bay cool.
Amazing stuff, even on the race cars turbo straight after a race you could put your hand virtually on the hot side of the turbo!
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 09:40:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2018, 09:40:08 PM
Many thanks Clive
Time to put my kidney on eBay 😆😆😆😆
Time to put my kidney on eBay 😆😆😆😆
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:49:23 AM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:49:23 AM
I think that exhaust pulses are really important in rotarys, as in 2 strokes. But for Renesis, you have to be math geniuos to figure out I quess. I havent seen any desent Renny DIY header tips. Well, just wing it, itl work :great:
As Jon said, but yeah but no but :13:
Btw, just realized that I didnt look Westys headers when I visited... ::)
As Jon said, but yeah but no but :13:
Btw, just realized that I didnt look Westys headers when I visited... ::)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:45:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:45:49 AM
Dashboard update !
Thought id ping some pics of the dash.
Retaining the stock instrument panel, but its being located in the centre like Minis. The bulkhead / dash on the Lotus in relation to the windscreen is very different from the RX8, hence I could fit the CAT behind the engine.......
....anyhoo, bored of exhausts for a while, we've done that to death.
I've made a "buck" or "pattern" from plywood, polystyrene, filler, wattle n daub, chicken wire, mud, dung, pig iron and anything else that I had lay around....
Next is to lay some fibreglass over it to make a mould, then ill be cast my own dash and hope that the clocks and glove box still fits.
Ignore the finish of the grey primer, its "brushed" trowelled on its some cystic primer stuff that you mix with catalyst to harden it. its all been blocked down now but don't have any pics of that.
Thought id ping some pics of the dash.
Retaining the stock instrument panel, but its being located in the centre like Minis. The bulkhead / dash on the Lotus in relation to the windscreen is very different from the RX8, hence I could fit the CAT behind the engine.......
....anyhoo, bored of exhausts for a while, we've done that to death.
I've made a "buck" or "pattern" from plywood, polystyrene, filler, wattle n daub, chicken wire, mud, dung, pig iron and anything else that I had lay around....
Next is to lay some fibreglass over it to make a mould, then ill be cast my own dash and hope that the clocks and glove box still fits.
Ignore the finish of the grey primer, its "brushed" trowelled on its some cystic primer stuff that you mix with catalyst to harden it. its all been blocked down now but don't have any pics of that.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
Jesus,
Either my eyesight has improved dramatically or those pics are far too big!
Either my eyesight has improved dramatically or those pics are far too big!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:53:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:53:45 AM
OOOOoooooooo oh yeah I forgot..... Jon?
The LCD strip that shows time, outside temp etc that was housed above the stereo.....
Do I need to retain that for showing any error codes or diagnostic reasons.
I can house it in the centre console if need be.
Thanks in advance....
The LCD strip that shows time, outside temp etc that was housed above the stereo.....
Do I need to retain that for showing any error codes or diagnostic reasons.
I can house it in the centre console if need be.
Thanks in advance....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2018, 10:30:37 AM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2018, 10:30:37 AM
Nope not needed think its called the hvac panel.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 11:32:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 11:32:52 AM
OK cool,
I must have misread something on the manuals where error codes appear.
Just so were on the same page and talking about the same component.........
I must have misread something on the manuals where error codes appear.
Just so were on the same page and talking about the same component.........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2018, 12:11:54 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2018, 12:11:54 PM
Yep thats the 1 i was thinking off, does not display any engines codes...Hvac panel so fan speeds ac on/off temps etc...it can go in bin.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 12:24:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 12:24:43 PM
Ace!
Even lighter again ! Every bit helps
Uncle Colin would be so proud lol
Even lighter again ! Every bit helps
Uncle Colin would be so proud lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
That dash looks awesome! But seems that you made a little oops, steering is in wrong side
Btw, is axel widht and lenght same as in stock (rx-8) car or have you changed it?
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Btw, is axel widht and lenght same as in stock (rx-8) car or have you changed it?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on December 05, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Post by: rote8 on December 05, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Just caught up over the last day or twos posts :dontknow:. You guys are something else and fabrication skills are par excellence. :notworthy: Many years ago swapped many an engine in a variety of Fords but always a simple fit using their different engines and gearboxes with only engine mounts to worry about. Keep up the good work. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 03:53:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 03:53:42 PM
Thanks Jarno!
When the steering wheel is on the right side, its on the RIGHT side lol !
My axle width is stock RX8 front and back, a little wider on the back than the Lotus and a lot wider than Lotus on the front.
I need to make 4 new wings / arches to house the wheels.
Im going to run 17 x 7 steel wheels off a Hyundai Santa Fe (I think) which I purchased from some discount wheel website at £80 each. ( Im not sure if Im allowed to mention other companies on here, don't want Clive telling the newbie off lol)
They have the same offset, PCD and centre bore as the 17 x7 Alloys fitted to some RX8's. I don't know if some models had smaller brakes, but because I bought steel wheels, I have loads of clearance for the 231 bhp brakes and calipers.
Plus they are more in keeping with the original style of the car.
Ive altered the wheelbase front to back.
Because of the much larger wheels Ive increased the wheel base by 50mm over stock Lotus, so I didn't need to cut up the inner arches where my feet and pedals would be.
That said, even with the increase in wheel base, its still 100mm shorter than a stock RX8. So should be more responsive on turning into bends.
The pic below shows a CAD image of the original lotus chassis which I needed as a datum before I modelled up the new one, I needed to make sure the body would fit on the new chassis with minimal cutting to the shell.
The green wheels on the image are the original lotus ones in the correct position and the grey ones are the 18 x 8 from the RX8.
From that I can move all the suspension pick up points further up into the chassis as the centre of the wheel is further from the floor on the new wheels, and I was also able to lower the car without upsetting the suspension geometry.
When the steering wheel is on the right side, its on the RIGHT side lol !
My axle width is stock RX8 front and back, a little wider on the back than the Lotus and a lot wider than Lotus on the front.
I need to make 4 new wings / arches to house the wheels.
Im going to run 17 x 7 steel wheels off a Hyundai Santa Fe (I think) which I purchased from some discount wheel website at £80 each. ( Im not sure if Im allowed to mention other companies on here, don't want Clive telling the newbie off lol)
They have the same offset, PCD and centre bore as the 17 x7 Alloys fitted to some RX8's. I don't know if some models had smaller brakes, but because I bought steel wheels, I have loads of clearance for the 231 bhp brakes and calipers.
Plus they are more in keeping with the original style of the car.
Ive altered the wheelbase front to back.
Because of the much larger wheels Ive increased the wheel base by 50mm over stock Lotus, so I didn't need to cut up the inner arches where my feet and pedals would be.
That said, even with the increase in wheel base, its still 100mm shorter than a stock RX8. So should be more responsive on turning into bends.
The pic below shows a CAD image of the original lotus chassis which I needed as a datum before I modelled up the new one, I needed to make sure the body would fit on the new chassis with minimal cutting to the shell.
The green wheels on the image are the original lotus ones in the correct position and the grey ones are the 18 x 8 from the RX8.
From that I can move all the suspension pick up points further up into the chassis as the centre of the wheel is further from the floor on the new wheels, and I was also able to lower the car without upsetting the suspension geometry.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 03:59:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 03:59:36 PM
Thanks rote8
Yes, I still have a passion for classic fords and yeah, identical bellhousing patterns does make engine and gearbox swaps easier.
I'll hopefully have another Anglia 105e one day, maybe even rotary powered.
But when Ive finished the Elan, I have another 2 motorbikes and a Morgan 3 wheeler replica to build........
I don't do TV of an evening and after 2 years my girlfriend has accepted the fact she is a shed widow lol
Yes, I still have a passion for classic fords and yeah, identical bellhousing patterns does make engine and gearbox swaps easier.
I'll hopefully have another Anglia 105e one day, maybe even rotary powered.
But when Ive finished the Elan, I have another 2 motorbikes and a Morgan 3 wheeler replica to build........
I don't do TV of an evening and after 2 years my girlfriend has accepted the fact she is a shed widow lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
Hey Jarno,
heres the stock Lotus chassis.......
Easier to start from scratch with a new backbone chassis than trying to graft RX8 stuff on the Lotus chassis.
Handy for taking dimensions from it though :great:
heres the stock Lotus chassis.......
Easier to start from scratch with a new backbone chassis than trying to graft RX8 stuff on the Lotus chassis.
Handy for taking dimensions from it though :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 03:53:42 PM
Thanks Jarno!
When the steering wheel is on the right side, its on the RIGHT side lol ! .
Thats what Jon keeps telling me but Im pretty sure that he is wrong
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:06:47 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2018, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 04:22:01 PMI couldnt agree more. Theres no reason to use that old tired chassis when you can do/use new and better one
Hey Jarno,
heres the stock Lotus chassis.......
Easier to start from scratch with a new backbone chassis than trying to graft RX8 stuff on the Lotus chassis.
Handy for taking dimensions from it though :great:
And with RX-8s chassis and suspension setup, that thing is going to be fast
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
Jesus,
Either my eyesight has improved dramatically or those pics are far too big!
Sorted that for you Jamie :13:
The forum doesn't resize pics, so anything wider than 1024 pixels is usually a problem.
I'm been following this thread for some time with great interest. A really fascinating project, and I'm in total awe at your range of fabrication skills :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
Thanks for the resize Casey and the nod of approval.
Jeeez I didnt realise it drums so much interest.
Im sure I'll cock something up at some point, and Ill have to lean on some fine people on here to get me out a pickle.
I also wish I had the balls to do this sort of thing for a living, but everyone says theres no money unless your name is Richard Rawlings, Boyd Coddington, or Dave Kindig.
So Ill settle for going semi retired and have this as a working hobby.............I probably wouldnt enjoy it so much.
Im also relying on Jon to help me get the track bug, Ive never done a track day, and Ill be first to admit I enjoy building more than driving, esp on the roads anyway.
Y'all cool !! :13: :13:
Jeeez I didnt realise it drums so much interest.
Im sure I'll cock something up at some point, and Ill have to lean on some fine people on here to get me out a pickle.
I also wish I had the balls to do this sort of thing for a living, but everyone says theres no money unless your name is Richard Rawlings, Boyd Coddington, or Dave Kindig.
So Ill settle for going semi retired and have this as a working hobby.............I probably wouldnt enjoy it so much.
Im also relying on Jon to help me get the track bug, Ive never done a track day, and Ill be first to admit I enjoy building more than driving, esp on the roads anyway.
Y'all cool !! :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:47:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:47:23 PM
Thats what Jon keeps telling me but Im pretty sure that he is wrong
Jarno, we we agreed with you all 3 of us would be wrong lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:48:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2018, 07:48:28 PM
Ah my quote copy doo dah didnt work..............
There ya go first cock up lol
There ya go first cock up lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2018, 11:10:39 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2018, 11:10:39 AM
Btw, Jon is actually quite good driver. Made me feel woozy at Silverstone. (Jon, dont say anything! 
) I absolutely hate beeing passenger, and my inner ear problem makes feel like crap sometimes. But anyways, I was able to joy few laps with onboard his FD. Nice
I really like swaps. Especially weird ones. Its not easy way to swap modern cars stuff to old, because with new technology, there comes new cars problems...
I my self might have cocked up with my project. Quest for power is not easy when one is only good at braking stuff, but knows nothing about turbos and ecus
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(Jon, dont say anything! ) I absolutely hate beeing passenger, and my inner ear problem makes feel like crap sometimes. But anyways, I was able to joy few laps with onboard his FD. Nice I really like swaps. Especially weird ones. Its not easy way to swap modern cars stuff to old, because with new technology, there comes new cars problems...
I my self might have cocked up with my project. Quest for power is not easy when one is only good at braking stuff, but knows nothing about turbos and ecus
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Isnt that all part of the learning process?
If it was easy, it wouldn't be rewarding when you've achieved something.
Like this morning, I come into work at stupid oclock to start bending the aluminium sheet for my tank.
Things are a couple of degrees out because of variance of aluminium specs...... sometimes you can have the best plans in the world, but then you have to beat it into submission LOL
If it was easy, it wouldn't be rewarding when you've achieved something.
Like this morning, I come into work at stupid oclock to start bending the aluminium sheet for my tank.
Things are a couple of degrees out because of variance of aluminium specs...... sometimes you can have the best plans in the world, but then you have to beat it into submission LOL
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2018, 11:36:21 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2018, 11:36:21 AM
Well, thats true. But I dont be learning by blowing up motors under full boost luckily there is few good ecu tuners near me...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 07:13:45 PM
Fuel Tank update!
Tacked the basic shape today and brought it home for trial fit
By Christ! it only fits! more luck than judgment, and room for the harnesses to strap on the rear of the cage.
Lots of welding this weekend.
Anyone recommend the best way to mount it???
Strap it down with metal bands, or weld L brackets to the outside and bolt it solidly to the cage??
Oh and any recommendations for a small battery that will power all the electrics including lights with decent cranking Amps.
Im going to house it under the tank on passenger side
Thanks in advance for any input :13:
Tacked the basic shape today and brought it home for trial fit
By Christ! it only fits! more luck than judgment, and room for the harnesses to strap on the rear of the cage.
Lots of welding this weekend.
Anyone recommend the best way to mount it???
Strap it down with metal bands, or weld L brackets to the outside and bolt it solidly to the cage??
Oh and any recommendations for a small battery that will power all the electrics including lights with decent cranking Amps.
Im going to house it under the tank on passenger side
Thanks in advance for any input :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
Cool build!
Did you find the info you needed on the fuel sender?
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Did you find the info you needed on the fuel sender?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:15:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:15:05 PM
Thanks Paul,
If I'm honest I forgot to look,
The little bracket at the bottom of the rank is to house the 2 stock senders.
I've cut 2 squares out the bottom of the stock plastic tank and bolt them to the Ali bracket, the stock senders will click into place.
The full level position on the stock tank is higher than my tank so I've canted them over a little bit,
I'll do a bit of wiring wizardry, well good for me so both sets of wires join the same block connector ;)
The more things I can keep stock the more chance I got to make it work hahaha
If I'm honest I forgot to look,
The little bracket at the bottom of the rank is to house the 2 stock senders.
I've cut 2 squares out the bottom of the stock plastic tank and bolt them to the Ali bracket, the stock senders will click into place.
The full level position on the stock tank is higher than my tank so I've canted them over a little bit,
I'll do a bit of wiring wizardry, well good for me so both sets of wires join the same block connector ;)
The more things I can keep stock the more chance I got to make it work hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:16:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:16:40 PM
How did you tackle yours?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:28:41 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:28:41 PM
Have a look on page 106/316 on my thread. Basically joined the fuel sender and sub sender wires together at the clocks. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/41135b2b32b064c920c59c167aeacbdf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/7719f154f72bddb112d47fec2ee5b716.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/214554086aca74ea0df2c09bf6ac7e44.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:40:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:40:28 PM
Ah, makes sense, I'll still take a peek
Thank you!
Glad there's so many helpful people on here
Thank you!
Glad there's so many helpful people on here
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:40:28 PMI've probably been through all of the wiring issues you will encounter so feel free to ask!
Ah, makes sense, I'll still take a peek
Thank you!
Glad there's so many helpful people on here
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:57:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2018, 09:57:50 PM
I'm about as good at wiring as I am at platting turds.
I can do the physical side of it like making looms, push fit block connectors etc.
I just can't get my head around the theory.
So I've not go that far but here's a quick run down
Abs sensors removed because I'm running bias pedal box,
No air con,
No airbags,
No alarm, no central locking
No stereo
Adaptronic ecu from Clive when I get it.
Stock accelerator fly by wire
Aftermarket fuel pump
Then there's all the other stuff from lotus that I need to graft into a rx8 loom
Lotus heater control,
Lotus wiper motor, which is used to 2 speeds and the rx8 stalk gas more functions along with squirters.
The fact it's a fibreglass body so no so easy to find an earth like screwing a wire terminal into the body
The list is endless .......
I can do the physical side of it like making looms, push fit block connectors etc.
I just can't get my head around the theory.
So I've not go that far but here's a quick run down
Abs sensors removed because I'm running bias pedal box,
No air con,
No airbags,
No alarm, no central locking
No stereo
Adaptronic ecu from Clive when I get it.
Stock accelerator fly by wire
Aftermarket fuel pump
Then there's all the other stuff from lotus that I need to graft into a rx8 loom
Lotus heater control,
Lotus wiper motor, which is used to 2 speeds and the rx8 stalk gas more functions along with squirters.
The fact it's a fibreglass body so no so easy to find an earth like screwing a wire terminal into the body
The list is endless .......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
It took me a while. Never had touched wiring to that depth in my life. Never could solder cable and couldn't use a multi meter properly. It comes with practise.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 11:38:53 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 07, 2018, 11:38:53 PM
Just a thought if you're struggling making the rx8 fuel pump fit... Mx5 mk3 is the same pump and same level sensor. The actual housing may be smaller. Also the rx8/mx5 fuel pump is the same as evo x and a number of other cars.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 04:06:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 04:06:51 PM
Ok more tank stuff.
Bit rusty on the old ali welding..........that's such a contradiction !! lollllll
Its staying now.
So its all welded up, just the outlet and the return line fittings to weld in.
No its not a fat aerial, lol, I welded in the filler pipe extra long so I can trim it to length, but capped it off and put a tyre shreader valve in the end so I can pressure test it :)
....... bet it leaks hahahaha
Bit rusty on the old ali welding..........that's such a contradiction !! lollllll
Its staying now.
So its all welded up, just the outlet and the return line fittings to weld in.
No its not a fat aerial, lol, I welded in the filler pipe extra long so I can trim it to length, but capped it off and put a tyre shreader valve in the end so I can pressure test it :)
....... bet it leaks hahahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Oh pants.......Casey is gonna hate me !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
Thats very nice..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 08, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 08, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
Spot on
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2018, 06:08:39 PM
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2018, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Oh pants.......Casey is gonna hate me !
??? ??? You really must learn how to post pics with a max pixel width of 1024 ;)
Sorted :)
BTW, I'm certain the welds are much better than I could do. Never had the time to learn to weld :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: exiled-viking on December 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on December 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
this is a nice build some lovey welding ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 09:05:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 09:05:30 PM
Sorry casey, I took the pics on my phone and emailed them to myself not full size,
I did click properties to check but it didn't mention pixel width
Since you resized the last ones I used a program to resize them but I assumed it would be fine....... Hmmmmm
Bugger !!! :(
I did click properties to check but it didn't mention pixel width
Since you resized the last ones I used a program to resize them but I assumed it would be fine....... Hmmmmm
Bugger !!! :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 09:08:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2018, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking on December 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
this is a nice build some lovey welding ;)
Thanks Viking :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
Evening Jon,
Just wondered if you were running the stock accelerator pedal with fly by wire in your westy?
I'm eyeing up bias pedal boxes with a view to removing the accelerator pedal as it cable operated.
Downside is they are floor mounted and the accelerator is top hung.........
Cheers
J
Just wondered if you were running the stock accelerator pedal with fly by wire in your westy?
I'm eyeing up bias pedal boxes with a view to removing the accelerator pedal as it cable operated.
Downside is they are floor mounted and the accelerator is top hung.........
Cheers
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 01:13:49 AM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 01:13:49 AM
I run tilton pedal box. Clutch and brake.floor mounted with rx8 throttle pedal fly by wire.
Your gonna need to keep the fly by wire rx8 throttle pedal.
I dont have an issue with the 2. Careful positioning of the pedals and i fitted a heel plate..ill get a piccy later.
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Your gonna need to keep the fly by wire rx8 throttle pedal.
I dont have an issue with the 2. Careful positioning of the pedals and i fitted a heel plate..ill get a piccy later.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 06:51:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 06:51:15 AM
http://www.obpltd.com/Pedal-Boxes/Pro-Race-V2/Floor-Mounted-Cockpit-Fit/2-Pedal-Unit-CF/2-Pedal-Unit-CF-Hydrualic-Clutch/Floor-Mounted-2-Pedal-Cockpit-Fit-Hydraulic-Clutch-Pedal-Box-OBP0167PRC
I was looking at the above.
I've not heard of obp before, but they get a lot of praise........
I was looking at the above.
I've not heard of obp before, but they get a lot of praise........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
Heres mine, ill dig reciept out as that obp seems quite expensive....
Looking about they seem tobe doing them with flyby wire now too.
Looks like my go pedal pedal offset in piccy. Its not. The ally chequer plate is a little heel bridge as size 8 feet i could get a good pivot/pedal feel...epic now.
Servoless wilwoods dynalites with mintex 1157s awesome brakes...pads dont wear either been in 4 years lol dont seem to wear out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181212/4a5778a4d1aa0df31e00be93c0cde096.jpg)
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Looking about they seem tobe doing them with flyby wire now too.
Looks like my go pedal pedal offset in piccy. Its not. The ally chequer plate is a little heel bridge as size 8 feet i could get a good pivot/pedal feel...epic now.
Servoless wilwoods dynalites with mintex 1157s awesome brakes...pads dont wear either been in 4 years lol dont seem to wear out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181212/4a5778a4d1aa0df31e00be93c0cde096.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 09:49:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 09:49:16 PM
Nice one!
I found obp to be cheaper tbh, oh and the fly by wire pedal boxes are ridiculously priced,
I'll settle for the ergonomics of floor mounted brakes and top hung accelerator like you have considering it all works.
I did consider converting the stock accelerator pedal in to a shortened lever operated by a Bowden cable with a traditional accelerator pedal, but seemed like making work for the sake of it.
Thanks Jon
I found obp to be cheaper tbh, oh and the fly by wire pedal boxes are ridiculously priced,
I'll settle for the ergonomics of floor mounted brakes and top hung accelerator like you have considering it all works.
I did consider converting the stock accelerator pedal in to a shortened lever operated by a Bowden cable with a traditional accelerator pedal, but seemed like making work for the sake of it.
Thanks Jon
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 09:57:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2018, 09:57:13 PM
How are your brake lights activated? In line pressure operated switch?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 04:09:42 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 04:09:42 PM
Tilton 600 series..floor or overhung mount. 2 pedal £280 from Merlin.
I use the rx8 clutch and brake switch...2 ally tabs on top of pedals.
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I use the rx8 clutch and brake switch...2 ally tabs on top of pedals.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
Switches behind.
Clutch switch alters idle in neutral. Id set a 1200 rpm idle brings the oil press up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/eddc4b24a4d9ddb91098223305cd052e.jpg)
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Clutch switch alters idle in neutral. Id set a 1200 rpm idle brings the oil press up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/eddc4b24a4d9ddb91098223305cd052e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2018, 09:06:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2018, 09:06:47 PM
Thanks for the heads up Jon.
I can't seem to find tilton boxes, with cockpit mounted master cylinders, I need them pointed towards me because my roll cage will get in the way,
That way I can put my heel board over them, and as the father in law wants to have a play on the track too I'm making the pedal box adjustable coz he has diddy legs lol.
I think the obp are about 380 something with the bias adjustable cable, the cylinders and the reservoirs...... The link I sent you was a package with the braided lines, but I'll make my own coz I don't know where I'm mounting the reservoirs yet, I can't believe 3 braided lines are 140 quid !!
Anyhow, I pressure tested the tank tonight, 5 leaks......
One pin hole on the undeside.....got sloppy, after 4.5 metres of weld I can deal with 1 pin hole given my limited experience...
3 pin holes around the filler neck, ouch, I'm putting it down to different grades of aluminium, but either or, I've cured them .....
I have a major one around the white plastic fuel pot top..... I noticed on your you tube vid you used some black "jollop" around it.
I've got a 5mm thick flanges welded to the underside of the tank, a homemade viton gasket, the white plastic piece then another 5mm Ali ring clamping it all together,
I think it's coming through the bolt holes, I used 10 bolts........I just wondered what you used to seal your tank? I roof some roof and gutter sealant tonight because it didn't say you can't use it with petrol lol
Didn't know whether you used a polyurethane sealant or something ..................
I can't seem to find tilton boxes, with cockpit mounted master cylinders, I need them pointed towards me because my roll cage will get in the way,
That way I can put my heel board over them, and as the father in law wants to have a play on the track too I'm making the pedal box adjustable coz he has diddy legs lol.
I think the obp are about 380 something with the bias adjustable cable, the cylinders and the reservoirs...... The link I sent you was a package with the braided lines, but I'll make my own coz I don't know where I'm mounting the reservoirs yet, I can't believe 3 braided lines are 140 quid !!
Anyhow, I pressure tested the tank tonight, 5 leaks......
One pin hole on the undeside.....got sloppy, after 4.5 metres of weld I can deal with 1 pin hole given my limited experience...
3 pin holes around the filler neck, ouch, I'm putting it down to different grades of aluminium, but either or, I've cured them .....
I have a major one around the white plastic fuel pot top..... I noticed on your you tube vid you used some black "jollop" around it.
I've got a 5mm thick flanges welded to the underside of the tank, a homemade viton gasket, the white plastic piece then another 5mm Ali ring clamping it all together,
I think it's coming through the bolt holes, I used 10 bolts........I just wondered what you used to seal your tank? I roof some roof and gutter sealant tonight because it didn't say you can't use it with petrol lol
Didn't know whether you used a polyurethane sealant or something ..................
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
I used a few materials and the ptfe 1 i made has been onit 3 years no leak. Ill link tilton pedals..demon tweeks.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2018, 09:34:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2018, 09:34:21 PM
The black sealant was PTFE?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
Must be looking at old photo..tried hylomar nope. Original rubber seal dried up and cracked..made 1 out of ptfe 1mm thick white sheet i procured from work. Made a gasket a ring with the stud holes stamped out.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
Evening all,
Got the tank in place, pressure tested, slight change of plans for the fuel filler neck because some dozy twonk welded a roll cage in the way and didn't check the location.......
Never claimed to be perfect lol.....
Anyway, I'm struggling to find a suitable location for the filler cap, tried mounting it in the boot area, like the mk1 escort rally cars, but can't get enough height without having the pipe horizontal ....hmmmmmmm
The original location for the filler cap is a no go for the same reason....., the original tank had the fuel entry half way up the tank so I envisage the filling processs long and laborious....
I can cut a new hole in the car no problem, but before I do.....
Can the filler cap be positioned inside the cabin, next to the drivers seat????
Are any production cars from back in the day with a similar set up?
Are there any restrictions on this from a track day perspective / safety requirements?
I know it may look odd opening the drivers Dood on the petrol forecourt....
The cap is non vented and I'm running a separate vent pipe outside the car......
Appreciate any guidance, even if it just calling me a **** for putting the roll cage in the way
Got the tank in place, pressure tested, slight change of plans for the fuel filler neck because some dozy twonk welded a roll cage in the way and didn't check the location.......
Never claimed to be perfect lol.....
Anyway, I'm struggling to find a suitable location for the filler cap, tried mounting it in the boot area, like the mk1 escort rally cars, but can't get enough height without having the pipe horizontal ....hmmmmmmm
The original location for the filler cap is a no go for the same reason....., the original tank had the fuel entry half way up the tank so I envisage the filling processs long and laborious....
I can cut a new hole in the car no problem, but before I do.....
Can the filler cap be positioned inside the cabin, next to the drivers seat????
Are any production cars from back in the day with a similar set up?
Are there any restrictions on this from a track day perspective / safety requirements?
I know it may look odd opening the drivers Dood on the petrol forecourt....
The cap is non vented and I'm running a separate vent pipe outside the car......
Appreciate any guidance, even if it just calling me a **** for putting the roll cage in the way
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Meant to be drivers door........I know the gin is flowing but I'm not that far gone, it's a school night
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:09:21 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:09:21 PM
I think you gotta have to move it so can access from rear...youll dribble fuel all over your seat...need good access for a funnel when using jerry cans etc.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:23:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:23:01 PM
Fair point,
I can move the filler cap to the outside near the c pillar area ,
I may need to look at a flush aircraft style filler cap....... Just won't be in keeping with the aesthetics of the period look from the outside
I can move the filler cap to the outside near the c pillar area ,
I may need to look at a flush aircraft style filler cap....... Just won't be in keeping with the aesthetics of the period look from the outside
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:25:37 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:25:37 PM
Cant it be on tank inside car just access by opening boot?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
Tried 3 different style brackets now, the boot is really low and close to the top of the tank, it leaves the filler neck and rubber connecting pipe almost horizontal that I'm concerned the fuel will run backwards
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
Oh yeah
It's difficult to reach the tank from the boot
It's difficult to reach the tank from the boot
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
Extend ally tube up with screw on filler at end level with tailgate?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:40:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:40:34 AM
Hey Jon, I hear what you're saying..........
I wish it was that simple, or maybe im over complicating things......
Anyway its been playing on my mind all night, I got up at stupid o'clock to take pics to show you what im up against.
A - possible new locations, shown, I can enlarge the existing aerial hole or fill it up and cut a new one. I prefer the higher position though.
B - See the entry point for fuel, I've capped off the previous location - but more importantly whatever I do, Im going to need to get the tank in and out at certain points.
C -Cant use the existing filler cap location, because of my plans for the new wings.
D - Shows the gap between the rollcage rear strut brace and the underside of the boot rain gutter
E - Flexi Pipe pointing to the drivers side which could be fed by previous 2 location suggestions, if it was longer..........
F - Prefer the look of the new cap, and Im not opposed to the location,
G - Plenty of room, and a decent "fall" for the fuel into the tank.
H - Was thinking here ???? As an alternative, and clean up the outside appearance rather than filler caps on show.
J- Yes I missed "I" ..... anyway, a method of electrical tape, it may work, stronger than my welds haha, but going off your suggestion Jon.
..........need another post!
I wish it was that simple, or maybe im over complicating things......
Anyway its been playing on my mind all night, I got up at stupid o'clock to take pics to show you what im up against.
A - possible new locations, shown, I can enlarge the existing aerial hole or fill it up and cut a new one. I prefer the higher position though.
B - See the entry point for fuel, I've capped off the previous location - but more importantly whatever I do, Im going to need to get the tank in and out at certain points.
C -Cant use the existing filler cap location, because of my plans for the new wings.
D - Shows the gap between the rollcage rear strut brace and the underside of the boot rain gutter
E - Flexi Pipe pointing to the drivers side which could be fed by previous 2 location suggestions, if it was longer..........
F - Prefer the look of the new cap, and Im not opposed to the location,
G - Plenty of room, and a decent "fall" for the fuel into the tank.
H - Was thinking here ???? As an alternative, and clean up the outside appearance rather than filler caps on show.
J- Yes I missed "I" ..... anyway, a method of electrical tape, it may work, stronger than my welds haha, but going off your suggestion Jon.
..........need another post!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:43:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:43:07 AM
I'll try adding the pics this time ....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:50:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 07:50:21 AM
I need more coffee !!!
Anyhoo, last couple..
K - I can extend the pipe, but ergonomically it feels weird reaching in, putting the forecourt nozzle and 3 metres of pipe in the boot lol, and ....... it sits too horizontally, and as you can see I cant go up further without making everything else worse...
L - tried the same idea with the flexi pipe, but because the boot slopes down the further back, the lower it needs to be, then the fuel ends up in the boot.
I could pop the filler cap out the top of the boot like a blower on the bonnet of a hot rod and make a feature of it.......
What would you do Jon, please don't say buy a different car hahaha
Anyhoo, last couple..
K - I can extend the pipe, but ergonomically it feels weird reaching in, putting the forecourt nozzle and 3 metres of pipe in the boot lol, and ....... it sits too horizontally, and as you can see I cant go up further without making everything else worse...
L - tried the same idea with the flexi pipe, but because the boot slopes down the further back, the lower it needs to be, then the fuel ends up in the boot.
I could pop the filler cap out the top of the boot like a blower on the bonnet of a hot rod and make a feature of it.......
What would you do Jon, please don't say buy a different car hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 10:52:11 AM
This is a perfect example of rushing something.
With hindsight, what I should have done was make the tank and leave all the holes out of it.
Mock it up in the car, then plan properly where everything should route.
I went the other way because I didn't want to have to cut new holes in a sealed tank and have dust a swarf floating about inside.
Oh well, it was my first fuel tank, lessons learned, everyday is an education as they say .
With hindsight, what I should have done was make the tank and leave all the holes out of it.
Mock it up in the car, then plan properly where everything should route.
I went the other way because I didn't want to have to cut new holes in a sealed tank and have dust a swarf floating about inside.
Oh well, it was my first fuel tank, lessons learned, everyday is an education as they say .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:11:49 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:11:49 PM
I just got up from nights ill look in abit..need Coffffeeee! But i see the issue now...what you using for a back window? Glass or plexi ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
Ouch nights ! :(
Standard glass, but I know where you're going lol
Standard glass, but I know where you're going lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:32:53 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:32:53 PM
lol yeah if plexi glass. straight up and cut hole in back window. Picture tells a thousand words! yes i see the problem...goona digest the photos abit more as cant see an obvious solution.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
Ive got the same filler neck, the rubber seal perishes or falls out, i wrapped the filler thread with PTFE tape now and no more leaks or fuel smells.
back to tank...um i think youve gotta use existing filler hole and change the orientation of the tank inlet so it works so yep tank has to come out.
I think ive had my fuel pot out 50 to 60 times in early days getting it right so sometimes is just trial and error. :dontknow:
i ve got a spare filler neck minus cap if any help to you i had to buy another as lost the cap at a filling station when i forgot to put on in my excitement.
back to tank...um i think youve gotta use existing filler hole and change the orientation of the tank inlet so it works so yep tank has to come out.
I think ive had my fuel pot out 50 to 60 times in early days getting it right so sometimes is just trial and error. :dontknow:
i ve got a spare filler neck minus cap if any help to you i had to buy another as lost the cap at a filling station when i forgot to put on in my excitement.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 03:02:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2018, 03:02:35 PM
Due to how I need to make the bucks /patterns for the new wings ( I wont bore you with the details ) the existing filler hole is not an option, however I could open up the aerial hole and the inlet points in the right direction, the aerial hole wont be used for an aerial, and its further inboard.
But I still have a problem with height if Im not careful due to the curvature of the car......
..... I hate it! wish I bought a van ! lol
But I still have a problem with height if Im not careful due to the curvature of the car......
..... I hate it! wish I bought a van ! lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:55:01 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:55:01 AM
Well,
I have a solution.
Ive put some detailed pics up of the process below, just in case someone takes any inspiration from it and wants to create something similar, not just for a filler cap, but a recessed section in general.
So, new location, old filler cap hole filled up.
J
I have a solution.
Ive put some detailed pics up of the process below, just in case someone takes any inspiration from it and wants to create something similar, not just for a filler cap, but a recessed section in general.
So, new location, old filler cap hole filled up.
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
Part 1
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:57:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:57:45 AM
Part 2
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
Last few.......
Gel coat......... hmmmm its a new one for me, hides a multitude of sins lol
Gel coat......... hmmmm its a new one for me, hides a multitude of sins lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on December 23, 2018, 09:33:37 AM
Post by: rote8 on December 23, 2018, 09:33:37 AM
Excellent fabrication skills yet again :sign0098:. Bet it only took a couple of minutes NOT :violent1: :)).
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 23, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 23, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
That looks spot on, well done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
I couldnt agree more, exelent job mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 11:44:29 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 11:44:29 AM
Quote from: rote8 on December 23, 2018, 09:33:37 AM
Excellent fabrication skills yet again :sign0098:. Bet it only took a couple of minutes NOT :violent1: :)).
A day and a half ......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 11:53:41 AM
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 11:53:41 AM
Yep spot on.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: exiled-viking on December 23, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on December 23, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
some loverly fab skills 8) and very interesting build any thought on the top coat colour :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking on December 23, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
some loverly fab skills 8) and very interesting build any thought on the top coat colour :great:
Thanks for the kind words folks........ Seriously tho, I just wing it, there's no science behind it..... Apart from the equation on the board to make a cardboard template lol.
Mr. Exiled Viking.... That ole bean is the million dollar question.
Besides the fact the car is heavily modified, and will have new wings, big wheels, new bumper, under boot diffuser, in my head it will look period as much as it can, you should still be able to look at it and tell what it is........ An Elan on steroids. One of the reasons I went for 7x17 steel wheels.
Colour is am important part, but I haven't decided yet. I'm open to suggestions from everyone who wants to chip in. It needs to look like its from the era so no pearls, or funky metallics.
So ideas so far......
I really like ermine white like it is, like the mk1 and mk2 lotus cortinas and escort twin cam back in the day.
But with a satin black bonnet and satin black bumpers and wheels and lose all the bright work. (Chrome goes rusty and is stupidly priced)
When my car left the factory it was British racing green, so I'm thinking going back to its roots with a yellow stripe right down the middle of the car with the yellow widening around the radiator intake hole.........
Guys, it's an open forum, give me some inspiration...........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
Well, you said no metallic but...
I have seen one racing Elan here with similar color than this pic. Looked awesome, all those curves pops out. This car is my friends, painted in some modern Alfa Romeo paint
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 05:49:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 05:49:54 PM
Mmmmmmm mk2 escort,
The Scandinavians knew how to throw them around......
I agree the right colour can make a car look amazing.....
I want to keep people guessing so they can't tell what lurking under the bonnet, a modern colour might suggest a twist lol
The Scandinavians knew how to throw them around......
I agree the right colour can make a car look amazing.....
I want to keep people guessing so they can't tell what lurking under the bonnet, a modern colour might suggest a twist lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
I dont think you need to worry about the purists lol...choose any colour you like..theres some great mazda colours to choose?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 06:58:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 23, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
I dont think you need to worry about the purists lol...choose any colour you like..theres some great mazda colours to choose?
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Lmao I'm not bothered about the purists I'm even planning on going to my local dealer when it's finished to say I think the BRAP BRAP BRAP Is the cause of a misfire and could they take a look with the intent of them chasing me off the forecourt hahaha
I just like the lines of classic cars. But I could be swayed of green and orange of the 787 lolllll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
https://youtu.be/LUPIGf527M0
But that is a nice colour blue .......
But that is a nice colour blue .......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
Blues my fav car colour.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 23, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
It will match my silicone intake hoses too lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 08:14:27 PM
Post by: boosted on December 23, 2018, 08:14:27 PM
Mazda winning blue is nice and i chose mazda Aurora blue for the Westy..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2018, 04:39:57 AM
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2018, 04:39:57 AM
New Miata red would be awesome too... But yes, I do know what you mean. Color for that era would be perfect. Unfortunately, all those colors look like crap
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
Just had to google winning blue.............. yes I agree thats nice Jon.
Hahahaha Jarno ! I admire your honesty :13: I guess colour is a personal taste. Yes the Red Miata, is a nice colour, theres a guy at the Shelsley Walsh hillclimb who has one.
I posted a few pics below.... I know this forum isnt for any old car, but as an example my 1947 Chevy Truck was painted in gloss beige from the 1980's Volvo 240 of all things, with satin maroon to break it up.
Jon theres a standard lotus blue which looks similar to your aurora blue.
As much as I like the 787 Le Mans livery, (reminds me of a box of Tic Tacs) I think i need to stay true to what the car is, a 70's British car.
The white with the black roof and blacked out bumpers etc.........drool !
Anyway, back to fibreglass a dash board mould........ Christmas Eve in the shed at 6am, woot !
p.s. see the recessed filler cap on the truck...... :P :P theres a bit of a theme going on.
Hahahaha Jarno ! I admire your honesty :13: I guess colour is a personal taste. Yes the Red Miata, is a nice colour, theres a guy at the Shelsley Walsh hillclimb who has one.
I posted a few pics below.... I know this forum isnt for any old car, but as an example my 1947 Chevy Truck was painted in gloss beige from the 1980's Volvo 240 of all things, with satin maroon to break it up.
Jon theres a standard lotus blue which looks similar to your aurora blue.
As much as I like the 787 Le Mans livery, (reminds me of a box of Tic Tacs) I think i need to stay true to what the car is, a 70's British car.
The white with the black roof and blacked out bumpers etc.........drool !
Anyway, back to fibreglass a dash board mould........ Christmas Eve in the shed at 6am, woot !
p.s. see the recessed filler cap on the truck...... :P :P theres a bit of a theme going on.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 07:42:16 AM
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 07:42:16 AM
Ohh like the lotus blue...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:54:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:54:23 AM
.......and just because....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
and to be fair, I have plenty of time to decide.....
Its not like the MOT is on Friday.... haha ( wishful thinking )
Its not like the MOT is on Friday.... haha ( wishful thinking )
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2018, 09:51:27 AM
Yeah, that blue Lotus looks awesome...
But, for race car, usually best choise for color is really unusual color, color thats different than other people has...
Well, dunno, just my two cent
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But, for race car, usually best choise for color is really unusual color, color thats different than other people has...
Well, dunno, just my two cent
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=pink+mazda++race+car&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjw8bfd5bjfAhXHw-AKHUDZCD0Q2-cCegQIABAC&oq=pink+mazda++race+car&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...32163.36360..37064...1.0..0.121.779.3j5......0....1.........0j0i67j0i7i30j30i10j33i10.8fzIGfdEna8&ei=8vwgXPCwKceHgwfAsqPoAw&client=safari&prmd=isnv&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=E1ZMdhVzuS_yfM
Hey jarno, what do you think ?
Hey jarno, what do you think ?
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Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
That car is perfect for Jarno!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:25:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 07:25:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 24, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
That car is perfect for Jarno!!!
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Ouch lol! I'm not getting involved with this, I dont know people well enough to comment hahaha
Anyway, hope all you guys, gals and your families have a super Christmas, thanks for all your support and encouragement on the Frankenstein creation.
Here's to 2019!
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 07:31:14 PM
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2018, 07:31:14 PM
Lol Jarno knows im pulling his leg...he would come back with some comment about me crashing it lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 25, 2018, 07:27:41 AM
Post by: re japi on December 25, 2018, 07:27:41 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 24, 2018, 03:39:21 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=pink+mazda++race+car&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjw8bfd5bjfAhXHw-AKHUDZCD0Q2-cCegQIABAC&oq=pink+mazda++race+car&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...32163.36360..37064...1.0..0.121.779.3j5......0....1.........0j0i67j0i7i30j30i10j33i10.8fzIGfdEna8&ei=8vwgXPCwKceHgwfAsqPoAw&client=safari&prmd=isnv&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=E1ZMdhVzuS_yfM
Hey jarno, what do you think ?
LOl Looks like sh*t, but atleast it has steering wheel on right side of the car... ;) LOL Jon, No, I wouldnt say anything like that :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 25, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
Post by: boosted on December 25, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
Ha ha. Anyways Merry Xmas everyone!.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on December 25, 2018, 08:41:40 AM
Post by: rote8 on December 25, 2018, 08:41:40 AM
Merry Christmas all. My two penneth is one of your original thoughts , British Racing Green with the Yellow or another favourite was I believe called Bristol Racing Blue??? but can find no evidence to support this other than I had a Ford Consul Classic resprayed in this colour back in the 60's.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
Quote from: rote8 on December 25, 2018, 08:41:40 AM
Merry Christmas all. My two penneth is one of your original thoughts , British Racing Green with the Yellow or another favourite was I believe called Bristol Racing Blue??? but can find no evidence to support this other than I had a Ford Consul Classic resprayed in this colour back in the 60's.
Yeah, Im struggling to find a more "fitting" colour......... but plenty of time to draw a conclusion.
So ive been busy over the holiday period making my first multi part mould for the dashboard.
Needs tidying up and flatting back in places and the gel coat has chipped but no major dramas that cant be rectified.
Had to bash the pattern to get the mould off, but it was a disposable item anyway.......
Will post the finished dashboard in the new year......... long hot tub weekend away with the better half as shes been a "shed widow" most of December.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
Staying on the topic of dashboards......
Just read the interesting info on Clive's website surrounding the sandwich plate adaptor..........
Can anyone spec up a decent oil pressure and oil temperature gauge?
I'll need to make provision for those sooner than later
Just read the interesting info on Clive's website surrounding the sandwich plate adaptor..........
Can anyone spec up a decent oil pressure and oil temperature gauge?
I'll need to make provision for those sooner than later
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
Ah ! Seen Clive does gauges too........
Might not fit my application tho..... Nothing is simple
Might not fit my application tho..... Nothing is simple
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
Im at work ill detail some specs later mate.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 08:04:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2018, 08:04:50 PM
Thanks Jon,
There's no immediate rush, I'm on holibobs in Devon ATM.
I've emailed Clive on the rbe website to see if I can get a price for the instrument panel without the water temp gauge and the ashtray mount......
Been on the bay of "E" and there are some discounted items there, but unsure of the quality.......
You get what you pay for I guess
Appreciate the support tho... :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
There's no immediate rush, I'm on holibobs in Devon ATM.
I've emailed Clive on the rbe website to see if I can get a price for the instrument panel without the water temp gauge and the ashtray mount......
Been on the bay of "E" and there are some discounted items there, but unsure of the quality.......
You get what you pay for I guess
Appreciate the support tho... :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 01:50:37 PM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 01:50:37 PM
Nightmare nightshift!!
anyways. RB sandwich from Clive 2 ports i believe 1/8 npt. oil pressure 0 to 150psi. oil temp 0-150 C..
quality branded gauges should be fine.
As your going on track id get a pressure gauge with a low limit warning...a bright light is easier to detect at speed than a needle on a gauge.
Due to your weight, sticky tyres etc i suspect you could fall into my category of oil starvation in corners on track...2 engines later....lol..baffle that sump!!! set low limit warning to 30psi so will be on at idle. ...and have you fitted a uprated oil press reg in sump? Clives got them in stock.
If your using the stock oil coolers these have oil bypass thermostats in there so oil will get up to temp quickly...max 110 deg C Oil is used for cooling in Rotarys. need a Coolant Gauge ideally too....
Another option is a Digi Dash...I use a BJR...cheaper than gauges. :13:
anyways. RB sandwich from Clive 2 ports i believe 1/8 npt. oil pressure 0 to 150psi. oil temp 0-150 C..
quality branded gauges should be fine.
As your going on track id get a pressure gauge with a low limit warning...a bright light is easier to detect at speed than a needle on a gauge.
Due to your weight, sticky tyres etc i suspect you could fall into my category of oil starvation in corners on track...2 engines later....lol..baffle that sump!!! set low limit warning to 30psi so will be on at idle. ...and have you fitted a uprated oil press reg in sump? Clives got them in stock.
If your using the stock oil coolers these have oil bypass thermostats in there so oil will get up to temp quickly...max 110 deg C Oil is used for cooling in Rotarys. need a Coolant Gauge ideally too....
Another option is a Digi Dash...I use a BJR...cheaper than gauges. :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 04:59:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 04:59:59 PM
Which god foresaken place is making you work nights on new years eve????
I have a few things to buy from Clive in the new year so ill get a sandwich plate, i think the one hole is 3/8 NPT but plenty of senders about.
Noted on the range and warning light.
Ive not done anything yet to the engine apart from exhaust manifold and braided oil cooler lines coz stock ones didnt fit.
If you have any info on baffling the sump ill do that and get a oil pressure regulator from clive.
I like the digi dashes like SPA and stack, but think they are more suited to your westy, ill stick with analogue lol....
Is the stock water temp gauge no good?
I have a few things to buy from Clive in the new year so ill get a sandwich plate, i think the one hole is 3/8 NPT but plenty of senders about.
Noted on the range and warning light.
Ive not done anything yet to the engine apart from exhaust manifold and braided oil cooler lines coz stock ones didnt fit.
If you have any info on baffling the sump ill do that and get a oil pressure regulator from clive.
I like the digi dashes like SPA and stack, but think they are more suited to your westy, ill stick with analogue lol....
Is the stock water temp gauge no good?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 31, 2018, 05:14:06 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 31, 2018, 05:14:06 PM
Buy decent AN fittings! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181231/6c31aaf253bcc58ae9122de73ec1752d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Thats not good !!!
I got a friend who works for Pirtek, he knocked me some up out the back of his van, swaged ends the lot.......
Wasnt cheap, but they do this sort of stuff for a living.
I got a friend who works for Pirtek, he knocked me some up out the back of his van, swaged ends the lot.......
Wasnt cheap, but they do this sort of stuff for a living.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 05:54:19 PM
Off tonight hic! Other shift is in..ha ha..hrs fell good this year...back in 2nd now. Short shelf life food industry....Prawns lol i work in the prawn industry.
Stock gauge not linear i believe when it shows hot too late...gauges not cheap but cheaper than a rebuild. Defo on track need to know whats going on.
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Stock gauge not linear i believe when it shows hot too late...gauges not cheap but cheaper than a rebuild. Defo on track need to know whats going on.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 06:10:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2018, 06:10:27 PM
Prawns? Lol
Not disrespecting your job, but don't you live in like the most inland county in he uk? Haha
I work in the waste industry, so equally as glamorous.
God I wish I didn't use the stock gauges now, my dashboard could be so much simpler :( :( :( :(
Not disrespecting your job, but don't you live in like the most inland county in he uk? Haha
I work in the waste industry, so equally as glamorous.
God I wish I didn't use the stock gauges now, my dashboard could be so much simpler :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 06:15:03 PM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2018, 06:15:03 PM
Yep its wierd...raw materials come in from South East Asia...we cook freeze and pack for uk supermarkets. Pretty old school i like it so much BS in food industry.
Check out BJR digi dash. Bout 500 dash all sensors etc rev gauge shift light...cheaper Acewell but they look naff.
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Check out BJR digi dash. Bout 500 dash all sensors etc rev gauge shift light...cheaper Acewell but they look naff.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2019, 07:35:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2019, 07:35:27 PM
Had a few prices for gauges from various places, Merlin tends to give me the spec I want for the right price.
Need to get my order in with Clive for the sandwich plate.....amongst all my other goodies.
Anyhoo, dashboard is out the mould, roughly got rid of all the flashing and offered it up.........
Fits like a glove! just gotta get the clocks, glove box door and heater vents to fit now.
Need to get my order in with Clive for the sandwich plate.....amongst all my other goodies.
Anyhoo, dashboard is out the mould, roughly got rid of all the flashing and offered it up.........
Fits like a glove! just gotta get the clocks, glove box door and heater vents to fit now.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on January 09, 2019, 07:38:42 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on January 09, 2019, 07:38:42 PM
Nice. Keep up the good work
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 09, 2019, 09:43:52 PM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2019, 09:43:52 PM
Wow, I can already see the dash is going to look great once finished
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Cheers guys, it come out better than I expected, despite all the undercuts on the product.
Gel coat hides a multitude of sins lol
Gel coat hides a multitude of sins lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 20, 2019, 05:55:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 20, 2019, 05:55:10 PM
FINALLY !!
So! come to fit the parts, there was some movement during bolting the mould together and laying up the glass.
The glove box and dashboard gaps were really annoying me, yeah I know its just a glove box, but a passenger will notice it!
So I carved a massive section out and reglassed it.
Just finished fitting it up.
Bit pi**ed off with it now, need to move onto something different like the centre console and integrating oil temp/pressure gauges and heater controls. Need to cover up the mounting bolts under the clocks.................
The paint and flocking can waiting till final fit up.
I may have launched the dash out the shed if it wasnt gonna play ball! :angry5: :angry5: :angryfire: :angryfire: :violent1:
Like the clocks coming into contact with the heater !!
And breathe...........
So! come to fit the parts, there was some movement during bolting the mould together and laying up the glass.
The glove box and dashboard gaps were really annoying me, yeah I know its just a glove box, but a passenger will notice it!
So I carved a massive section out and reglassed it.
Just finished fitting it up.
Bit pi**ed off with it now, need to move onto something different like the centre console and integrating oil temp/pressure gauges and heater controls. Need to cover up the mounting bolts under the clocks.................
The paint and flocking can waiting till final fit up.
I may have launched the dash out the shed if it wasnt gonna play ball! :angry5: :angry5: :angryfire: :angryfire: :violent1:
Like the clocks coming into contact with the heater !!
And breathe...........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on January 20, 2019, 06:00:33 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on January 20, 2019, 06:00:33 PM
Love it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 20, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
Post by: boosted on January 20, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
Ha ha labour of love...i remember 3 x weekends modifying my grp seat to fit. Complete ballache but got there in the end.
Keep at it defo gonna be unique.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 22, 2019, 12:19:02 AM
Post by: Casey on January 22, 2019, 12:19:02 AM
:sign0098: taking shape nicely :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 22, 2019, 06:00:37 AM
Post by: re japi on January 22, 2019, 06:00:37 AM
Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 22, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Post by: boosted on January 22, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: re japi on January 22, 2019, 06:00:37 AM
Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
wallet keys and phone....? i have to use a helmet bag to stash my wallet keys and phones when out in westy with draw string tied around rollcage.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2019, 02:22:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2019, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 22, 2019, 10:25:35 AMQuote from: re japi on January 22, 2019, 06:00:37 AM
Nice, really nice :sign0098: But why glovebox?
wallet keys and phone....? i have to use a helmet bag to stash my wallet keys and phones when out in westy with draw string tied around rollcage.
Well, the honest answer is two-fold. The original purpose of the car was for it to be road legal, so, you know how it is when women need somewhere to put their designer glasses lol (Not being sexist, just factual)
Plus the fuses/relays/ecu/alarm boxes from the RX8 engine bay wont fit in the lotus engine bay, so I was gonna tuck them both high up on the passenger side bulk head.
The glove box hides a multitude of sins and by "popping" it out Ive got good access
No other reason......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 22, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
Post by: re japi on January 22, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
Fair enough Good job anyhow
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Good job anyhow Lähetetty minun E2303 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2019, 03:49:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2019, 03:49:39 PM
Cheers :13:
Look nicer when its finished lol
Lets hope I can see over it when the dash top goes on
Look nicer when its finished lol
Lets hope I can see over it when the dash top goes on
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2019, 10:28:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2019, 10:28:30 AM
Some ideas for the lotus to introduce some mods cons...........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on January 23, 2019, 10:59:18 AM
Post by: rote8 on January 23, 2019, 10:59:18 AM
:)) :)) :)) :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2019, 02:21:04 PM
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2019, 02:21:04 PM
Lol....nag free in mine.....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190123/641bfe092cfca110b9e565a435691dd4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
Ah well, you could always get one that doesn't nag lol
Definitely a Spartan cockpit.
Reminds me of this advert ................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsf5ErzwJYk
Definitely a Spartan cockpit.
Reminds me of this advert ................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsf5ErzwJYk
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 23, 2019, 07:50:34 PM
Post by: clive on January 23, 2019, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 23, 2019, 10:28:30 AM
Some ideas for the lotus to introduce some mods cons...........
:wee_hee:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 04:18:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 04:18:10 PM
Christmas come early !!!
Goodies from Captain Clive !!!!
I know what Ill be doing tonight .............
Goodies from Captain Clive !!!!
I know what Ill be doing tonight .............
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 30, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Post by: Casey on January 30, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Someone couldn't wait, look what you've done to that poor, innocent delivery box :( ;) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 05:36:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Casey on January 30, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Someone couldn't wait, look what you've done to that poor, innocent delivery box :( ;) :))
Well it would be unfair to disclose how much the invoice was for..............but I think a lot of Clives contribution margin was lost on Cellotape packing it up lol.
I used patience with scissors for around 2 mins, but then I started to sweat and my eyes went green.......there was this piercing screeching noise and I just lost it hahahah
(notice how neatly the contents had to be rearranged and some promo stickers strategically arranged)
I think I may have anger issues! lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 05:39:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 05:39:35 PM
LOL !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2019, 07:12:36 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2019, 07:12:36 PM
Shiny stuff...nice Racing Beat stickers ...nice.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 07:44:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 07:44:06 PM
Evening Jon
They are indeed...........exciting times!
They are certainly shinier than the new pattern for the fibreglass centre console.
Its still early days and looking very ugly, made from part of the original and chopped out bits added, drywall adhesive, wood, and boat loads of filler.
The oil pressure / temp gauge will be grafted onto this too.
Its an obscure shape, but it makes sense when it marrys up with the dashboard.
Off to the Middle East on Friday so progress will be slow for a week or two..........
Clive...... I have a couple of Q? on the new parts, can I give you a tinkle tomorrow if youre in the office?
They are indeed...........exciting times!
They are certainly shinier than the new pattern for the fibreglass centre console.
Its still early days and looking very ugly, made from part of the original and chopped out bits added, drywall adhesive, wood, and boat loads of filler.
The oil pressure / temp gauge will be grafted onto this too.
Its an obscure shape, but it makes sense when it marrys up with the dashboard.
Off to the Middle East on Friday so progress will be slow for a week or two..........
Clive...... I have a couple of Q? on the new parts, can I give you a tinkle tomorrow if youre in the office?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 30, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
Post by: clive on January 30, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
Out of the office tomorrow, but you can still get me on 01474 777800, leave a message if I don't get to it quick enough.
I suspect you may ask if you need a return line ?
When I ordered the FPR, I was told that whilst the RX-8 is classed as a return less system a return pipe needs to be plumbed back into the bottom port on the FPR.
Jon, can you help Jamie with some pictures as you are running the same type of fuel system setup ?
Malcolm, it would help if you could take some pictures of the fuel pipes where they meet the bulkhead to show the colours of the fuel connectors as this should also help Jamie know what pipes go where. From memory your looking at red and blue connectors.
I suspect you may ask if you need a return line ?
When I ordered the FPR, I was told that whilst the RX-8 is classed as a return less system a return pipe needs to be plumbed back into the bottom port on the FPR.
Jon, can you help Jamie with some pictures as you are running the same type of fuel system setup ?
Malcolm, it would help if you could take some pictures of the fuel pipes where they meet the bulkhead to show the colours of the fuel connectors as this should also help Jamie know what pipes go where. From memory your looking at red and blue connectors.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 30, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
Post by: clive on January 30, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
I see you found I like a little bit of tape to secure things then ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:14:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:14:04 PM
A little bit?
That packaging was stronger than my welding !!!
Nope the return line isn't an issue, but any help Jon and Malcolm can give would certainly be welcomed.........I'm asuuming the regulator is set at the correct pressure and its "non adjustable" ?
It was more about the tails on the pump you emailed about and the extra one taped to the outside of the box, it's only a quickie, I'll buzz you tomorrow.
That packaging was stronger than my welding !!!
Nope the return line isn't an issue, but any help Jon and Malcolm can give would certainly be welcomed.........I'm asuuming the regulator is set at the correct pressure and its "non adjustable" ?
It was more about the tails on the pump you emailed about and the extra one taped to the outside of the box, it's only a quickie, I'll buzz you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 30, 2019, 09:43:11 PM
Post by: Casey on January 30, 2019, 09:43:11 PM
I'm out tomorrow, but I'll try to get some pics up on Friday.
Are you using that new Walbro pump in an RX-8 fuel basket? If so, that's the same as I'm currently running. Not sure if you are aware that the recommendation is to melt the plastic around the top of the pop-off valve on the basket, to prevent the higher pressure pump activating it. Done it on mine and never had an issue.
Are you using that new Walbro pump in an RX-8 fuel basket? If so, that's the same as I'm currently running. Not sure if you are aware that the recommendation is to melt the plastic around the top of the pop-off valve on the basket, to prevent the higher pressure pump activating it. Done it on mine and never had an issue.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: Casey on January 30, 2019, 09:43:11 PM
I'm out tomorrow, but I'll try to get some pics up on Friday.
Are you using that new Walbro pump in an RX-8 fuel basket? If so, that's the same as I'm currently running. Not sure if you are aware that the recommendation is to melt the plastic around the top of the pop-off valve on the basket, to prevent the higher pressure pump activating it. Done it on mine and never had an issue.
Hey, no it's a bespoke tank, outlet to fuel filter, then an "out of tank" walboro pump
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2019, 09:59:49 PM
I'm going to be out the country after Friday until the 8th Feb, so don't bust a gut to get the info
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2019, 07:28:15 AM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2019, 07:28:15 AM
Im running rx8 stylee return less. My tank houses the original rx8 fuel pot with inboard regulator. I have added a sytec filter in the engine compartment. Its ran in 8mm id fuel hose from pump to rx8 hard fuel lines. The original is hard shelf plastic pipe. If your careful you cant cut this off the rx8 coupler and attach coupler to 8mm fuel hose so it fits onto hard metal fuel pipes.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2019, 09:11:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2019, 09:11:23 PM
Hi Clive,
Just dropped you a mail from my gmail account.
Not expecting anything this evening........
I'm off to get a gin, been scratching my skull for a while I've drawn blood .......
:sign0085: :dontknow:
Just dropped you a mail from my gmail account.
Not expecting anything this evening........
I'm off to get a gin, been scratching my skull for a while I've drawn blood .......
:sign0085: :dontknow:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2019, 10:06:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2019, 10:06:25 AM
Back in Blighty didn’t see 1 rotary :'(
Day off work going shopping at merlin Motorsport need some retail therapy.
;D
Day off work going shopping at merlin Motorsport need some retail therapy.
;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
Week away from the shed...................
Removeable dash top ready to clad in HD foam and then Vinyl for that authentic 70's vibe.
Centre console pattern taking shape, needs a little fettling, then make the mould.
Sigh.............
Removeable dash top ready to clad in HD foam and then Vinyl for that authentic 70's vibe.
Centre console pattern taking shape, needs a little fettling, then make the mould.
Sigh.............
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2019, 06:29:16 PM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2019, 06:29:16 PM
The 8 clocks looks cool in the dash...very original war of worlds esqe.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 09, 2019, 06:29:16 PM
The 8 clocks looks cool in the dash...very original war of worlds esqe.
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I've no idea but cheers fella......
Went to merlin yesterday and picked up my new oil pressure/temp gauge which is going in the centre console under the tachometer
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2019, 08:08:06 PM
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2019, 08:08:06 PM
Really nice job, loving it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 03:39:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 03:39:43 PM
Afternoon all,
Im in need of some advice......marry, kill, or bury in the back yard alive.................. joking!
From a servicing, longevity, safety, yadda yadda perspective......
Need to find a location for mounting fuel pump and filter.
Options are 1, inside the car, near the sump and outlet of the fuel tank. Fuel lines run inside the car also.
or 2, in the same location under the car. The original rear seat squab of the previous location provides a void, so pump and filter sit above the scrub line of the car and therefore cannot come into contact with anything. Fuel lines would run inside the transmission tunnel clipped to the box section.
Photos attached for clarity, I can see pros and cons for both, but would appreciate experiences from all walks, either road, track or race car owners.
Cheers in advance.
Im in need of some advice......marry, kill, or bury in the back yard alive.................. joking!
From a servicing, longevity, safety, yadda yadda perspective......
Need to find a location for mounting fuel pump and filter.
Options are 1, inside the car, near the sump and outlet of the fuel tank. Fuel lines run inside the car also.
or 2, in the same location under the car. The original rear seat squab of the previous location provides a void, so pump and filter sit above the scrub line of the car and therefore cannot come into contact with anything. Fuel lines would run inside the transmission tunnel clipped to the box section.
Photos attached for clarity, I can see pros and cons for both, but would appreciate experiences from all walks, either road, track or race car owners.
Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
missed one :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 04:14:32 PM
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 04:14:32 PM
Somewhere easily accessible for checking.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 05:08:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 05:08:22 PM
The roof? Lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 06:02:37 PM
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 06:02:37 PM
lol the easiest place :P ...you got a tank vent and roll over valve?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
A what valve?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 07:56:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2019, 07:56:08 PM
Roll over valve...if going on track shuts off vent incase of rollover and also shuts off in high g corners to stop fuel going up it and out.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 09:44:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2019, 09:44:51 PM
Is this something you can buy, because I planned on using the original spec vent pipe which routes around the underside of the roof, and out the floor of the car
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2019, 09:41:15 AM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2019, 09:41:15 AM
yes mate its just a little shuttle check valve that goes inline with the vent hose.
God forbid you turn it over then fuel will run out vent pipe spilling all over ground around car....then possible catch on fire....very 70s race car :13: depending on where your vent connection is on your tank hard braking acceleration or corning can force fuel up the line and out whilst on the move....
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/fuel-system/tank-breather-valve-and-roll-over-valves i bought the 2nd 1 in Top Left as had 8mm vent piping.
various prices and fittings.... :) i had it happen to me at combe i came out of camp and down towards start/finish straight depositing all my fuel over back tyres....luckily a keen eye marshall spotted it god knows how and i was black flagged !
I had to go into Merlin and buy the bits and make trackside mods.... :violent1:
mine: 8mm fuel hose from tank vent hosetail upto top of cage. Roll over valve vent inserted just before top monted vertically a sper destructions. Return down rollbar under bodywork but over axle and ran out the back off the car so vents behind wheels. fitted some 4 years ago no issues since.
God forbid you turn it over then fuel will run out vent pipe spilling all over ground around car....then possible catch on fire....very 70s race car :13: depending on where your vent connection is on your tank hard braking acceleration or corning can force fuel up the line and out whilst on the move....
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/fuel-system/tank-breather-valve-and-roll-over-valves i bought the 2nd 1 in Top Left as had 8mm vent piping.
various prices and fittings.... :) i had it happen to me at combe i came out of camp and down towards start/finish straight depositing all my fuel over back tyres....luckily a keen eye marshall spotted it god knows how and i was black flagged !
I had to go into Merlin and buy the bits and make trackside mods.... :violent1:
mine: 8mm fuel hose from tank vent hosetail upto top of cage. Roll over valve vent inserted just before top monted vertically a sper destructions. Return down rollbar under bodywork but over axle and ran out the back off the car so vents behind wheels. fitted some 4 years ago no issues since.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
Cheers Fella,
As the for the pump and filter location? under floor, over floor wombling free?
Inside the car Ive gotta pull the seats out.
Under the car, I can see anything dripping, but I have a pit I can use.
Just whether its gonna get covered in crap.
Don't really want high pressure fuel leaks inside. I suppose a firewall will be next on the cards.
As the for the pump and filter location? under floor, over floor wombling free?
Inside the car Ive gotta pull the seats out.
Under the car, I can see anything dripping, but I have a pit I can use.
Just whether its gonna get covered in crap.
Don't really want high pressure fuel leaks inside. I suppose a firewall will be next on the cards.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2019, 12:58:32 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2019, 12:58:32 PM
Under i reckon as shown in photo...may be a little alloy cover over pump n filter to protect from dirt. Run the fuel line up the inside of tunnel. Over top of bell housing into fuel rail
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 11, 2019, 05:45:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 11, 2019, 05:45:58 PM
Good decision,
Me and the father in law cooked up the same theory.
The underside of the car will have a full length aluminium diffuser to try and generate some "suck down" at the back as I don't want to ruin the lines of the car with a spoiler.
This potentially will cover the pump and filter.
I suppose the only with Q is, (which I would appreciate your or anyone view is) do I run 8mm bore rubber fuel hose or try and utilise the original metal pipes and re shape to suit.
Maybe im over-thinking stuff again, just thinking, hot - cold temperatures rubber perishing etc.
answers on a postcard, or just reply here lol
Me and the father in law cooked up the same theory.
The underside of the car will have a full length aluminium diffuser to try and generate some "suck down" at the back as I don't want to ruin the lines of the car with a spoiler.
This potentially will cover the pump and filter.
I suppose the only with Q is, (which I would appreciate your or anyone view is) do I run 8mm bore rubber fuel hose or try and utilise the original metal pipes and re shape to suit.
Maybe im over-thinking stuff again, just thinking, hot - cold temperatures rubber perishing etc.
answers on a postcard, or just reply here lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
Hose is fine...or new 8mm id cooper pipe for length of tunnel..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2019, 02:00:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2019, 02:00:41 PM
Busy morning,
made the mould in the week, had to destroy the pattern to get it out....undercuts everywhere.
So laid up the centre console in the mould this morning.........
Looks like I've found a piece of furry road kill !! It just needs to marry up with the dash and get the gear shift cover to clip in nicely.
Fingers crossed!
made the mould in the week, had to destroy the pattern to get it out....undercuts everywhere.
So laid up the centre console in the mould this morning.........
Looks like I've found a piece of furry road kill !! It just needs to marry up with the dash and get the gear shift cover to clip in nicely.
Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Theres still a bit of tarting up to do and some additional Gel Goat, but its bolted down, theres provision for the new oil pressure/temp gauge and the stock centre console cover clips in place.
Its been a while to get to this point, but now im excited because next on the cards are new wings and arches. :13: :13:
Its been a while to get to this point, but now im excited because next on the cards are new wings and arches. :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 19, 2019, 08:10:40 PM
Post by: Casey on February 19, 2019, 08:10:40 PM
That looks an amazingly good fit :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2019, 09:19:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2019, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 19, 2019, 08:10:40 PM
That looks an amazingly good fit :great:
Yeah I'm 80% happy with it, it was a right b*****d to make.
I had to destroy the pattern to make the mould, then had to destroy the mould to get the product.
Won't be doing any production runs..........
The wings and arches should be easy in comparison......... Fingers crossed !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
Its up!
I put far too much faith in those engine mounts and lifting eyes!
Looks like its a display in an art museum!!
.......this one is called "Destroying British Sportscars" ;)
I put far too much faith in those engine mounts and lifting eyes!
Looks like its a display in an art museum!!
.......this one is called "Destroying British Sportscars" ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 05:35:32 AM
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 05:35:32 AM
This thing is going to be awesome! :great:
Umm, what regulation roll gage is that? No door bars?
Umm, what regulation roll gage is that? No door bars?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 07:10:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 07:10:44 AM
Lol it's my own design.
I downloaded a copy of the MSA blue book and adopted as many principles from the regs as possible.
A basic cage doesn't require door bars from my understanding.
And besides which, top of the roof is 47 inches off the floor and I tip the scales at 118kg. It's a tight squeeze now, I'd never get in or out with door bars haha need a diet before race day lol.
My main reason for the cage was for added stiffness between the body and chassis. I can still unbolt the body from the chassis, but the cage is now a permanent fixture. It's bolted to the steel sill members, eventually I will glass the a pillars around the cage for a bit more rigidity as they are cracked in places where the rubber trim goes so that will help too.
I downloaded a copy of the MSA blue book and adopted as many principles from the regs as possible.
A basic cage doesn't require door bars from my understanding.
And besides which, top of the roof is 47 inches off the floor and I tip the scales at 118kg. It's a tight squeeze now, I'd never get in or out with door bars haha need a diet before race day lol.
My main reason for the cage was for added stiffness between the body and chassis. I can still unbolt the body from the chassis, but the cage is now a permanent fixture. It's bolted to the steel sill members, eventually I will glass the a pillars around the cage for a bit more rigidity as they are cracked in places where the rubber trim goes so that will help too.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 10:52:59 AM
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 10:52:59 AM
Ok, I see... Doesent require door bars? Really? 
Well, I would ad those...
Looks really good, I hope I can see it live some day
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 21, 2019, 11:02:10 AM
Post by: boosted on February 21, 2019, 11:02:10 AM
Not going racing Jarno so need and no regs.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
Yup!
I think its depends what racing series youre competing in.
I know you can do hillclimbs in a production car with no cage at all on a national B license.
Ya see the odd MX5 in some of the higher classes with a roll-over hoop and 2 x backstay maybe with a diagonal brace for triangulation.
Maybe when youre entering a racing class that demands the cage is FIA approved that you need the full blown cage.
Mines there for rigidity with the plus benefits as if I do have an accident, I will have protection as well......which is nice to know lol
I think its depends what racing series youre competing in.
I know you can do hillclimbs in a production car with no cage at all on a national B license.
Ya see the odd MX5 in some of the higher classes with a roll-over hoop and 2 x backstay maybe with a diagonal brace for triangulation.
Maybe when youre entering a racing class that demands the cage is FIA approved that you need the full blown cage.
Mines there for rigidity with the plus benefits as if I do have an accident, I will have protection as well......which is nice to know lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 01:32:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 01:32:09 PM
If it helps you sleep at night Jarno, I may fit some side impact bars inside the doors.
I could pop some stickers on the impact bars that says, "Jarno, my guardian angel!" "Protect me from that BMW M5 that's powering out of Quarry corner!"
:13: :13: :13:
I could pop some stickers on the impact bars that says, "Jarno, my guardian angel!" "Protect me from that BMW M5 that's powering out of Quarry corner!"
:13: :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 02:37:05 PM
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 02:37:05 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Jarno - A Guardian Angel, whatever next ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
Post by: re japi on February 21, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
Had to share these pics with you guys as it made me chuckle.
Going back to the Henry Ford days of the Model T with wooden wheels lol or a pantomime car.
Not sure what tyre choice to go with........ maybe 18/20ZR24 ;D ;D ;D
For those thinking WTF is he doing????? its a guide so I can see how far I need to bring the arches out, to clear the wheels and not look like the suspension is broken.
Going back to the Henry Ford days of the Model T with wooden wheels lol or a pantomime car.
Not sure what tyre choice to go with........ maybe 18/20ZR24 ;D ;D ;D
For those thinking WTF is he doing????? its a guide so I can see how far I need to bring the arches out, to clear the wheels and not look like the suspension is broken.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 08:09:41 PM
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 08:09:41 PM
Why am I thinking Fred Flintstone when I see that pic ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 09:16:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2019, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 21, 2019, 08:09:41 PM
Why am I thinking Fred Flintstone when I see that pic ;)
WILLLLMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 09:57:38 PM
Post by: Casey on February 21, 2019, 09:57:38 PM
BAAAAARRRRRRNNNNYYYY :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
Hi Guys,
Can someone just clarify the following
Measuring the toe in on the rear wheels........... does the below table suggest that measuring between the inner faces of the rim, at a mid point.....
The front "edges" of the rim should be 1.9mm closer together than the rear. Or is it 1.9mm per side from a centreline down the length of car meaning that the total difference between the inner faces of the rim is 3.8mm between front and rear edges?
I dunno if any of that makes sense !?!?!?!
Can someone just clarify the following
Measuring the toe in on the rear wheels........... does the below table suggest that measuring between the inner faces of the rim, at a mid point.....
The front "edges" of the rim should be 1.9mm closer together than the rear. Or is it 1.9mm per side from a centreline down the length of car meaning that the total difference between the inner faces of the rim is 3.8mm between front and rear edges?
I dunno if any of that makes sense !?!?!?!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Sorry, Standard RX8 service manuals used.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Mmmm you need Clive mate me thinks Clive recently advise me 0.15 toe in rear overall and 0.07 on each rear wheel on a rx7 fd as it moves abit on acceleration and turning forces.
The rear on an 8 is superior and does not wander as much so values gonna be less as a guide...till someone can give you exact figures...
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The rear on an 8 is superior and does not wander as much so values gonna be less as a guide...till someone can give you exact figures...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 04:44:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 04:44:54 PM
Cheers Jon, :13: I'll wait for Clive to share some experience on the matter.
Theres no immediate rush, Im setting the wooden discs Ive bolted on at 0 degrees from the car centre line from the point of view of making the arches.
Just wanted some clarity when it comes to putting them all back to a factory position..........(until it comes to fine tuning)
Theres no immediate rush, Im setting the wooden discs Ive bolted on at 0 degrees from the car centre line from the point of view of making the arches.
Just wanted some clarity when it comes to putting them all back to a factory position..........(until it comes to fine tuning)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 04:53:05 PM
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 04:53:05 PM
Ive only got 1 arch on at mo...as tyre hit it off...lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 08:09:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 22, 2019, 04:53:05 PM
Ive only got 1 arch on at mo...as tyre hit it off...lol
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That's some tight tolerance lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 08:10:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 08:10:44 PM
Almost as good as that table above, there the +/- tolerance is greater than the measurement itself lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 08:21:00 PM
My live axle moves about abit, on hard g corners...sometimes the prop uj kisses the tunnel lol..9j slicks for you. The panhard rod needs rose jointing me thinks.
Are you sure you wanna stick with the 8s 18s...17s fit lower your gearing and improve acceleration.
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Are you sure you wanna stick with the 8s 18s...17s fit lower your gearing and improve acceleration.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:00:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:00:31 PM
I'm going with 17" steels so it's more in keeping with the look of the car.
I've already got them, dun like the standard alloys, might use them or wets or something
I've already got them, dun like the standard alloys, might use them or wets or something
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:04:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:04:30 PM
There's a pic of them on page 2 of this thread.
Thought of you this week, remember you talking about fitting wider wheels on the back to over cone oversteer but now it's promoting under steer.
I got a book on aerodynamics by Simon mcbeath...... There was a photo of an open wheeled car, the nose cone was full width so it created an air dam in front if the front wheels and helped with downforce......... Food for thought
Thought of you this week, remember you talking about fitting wider wheels on the back to over cone oversteer but now it's promoting under steer.
I got a book on aerodynamics by Simon mcbeath...... There was a photo of an open wheeled car, the nose cone was full width so it created an air dam in front if the front wheels and helped with downforce......... Food for thought
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 09:07:32 PM
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 09:07:32 PM
Yep...ive seem something silmiliar on race v8 westys.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:15:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 22, 2019, 09:07:32 PM
Yep...ive seem something silmiliar on race v8 westys.
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Well if you have any ideas on how you want it to look, id make you one from grp if ya didn't fancy doing it yourself....... No obligation, something to play about with which can be easily swapped for the standard one
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
Post by: boosted on February 22, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
Cool thanks mate.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 10:21:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2019, 10:21:01 PM
No stress, I've not even got my hands dirty .
I might not be able to achieve it myself, but if I can do summat that gets you a 1.12 round CC , well you can thank be then lol
I might not be able to achieve it myself, but if I can do summat that gets you a 1.12 round CC , well you can thank be then lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 03:33:45 AM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 03:33:45 AM
Jon, a bit off topic but you should lose that panhard and use Wat link.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 05:56:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 05:56:37 AM
Yeah ! Does this look like a panhard rod Westfield agony aunt problem corner...... Start ya own thread!
Ha ha ha ha I'm kidding right.
That's a far point jarno,...... I've never made a watts linkage as I've had enough clearance to cope with panhard rod........ But they don't look difficult.
A few mods before race season Jon? Need to get some more traction on that front end without chucking bags of cement in the passenger footwell.
Ha ha ha ha I'm kidding right.
That's a far point jarno,...... I've never made a watts linkage as I've had enough clearance to cope with panhard rod........ But they don't look difficult.
A few mods before race season Jon? Need to get some more traction on that front end without chucking bags of cement in the passenger footwell.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 06:39:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 06:39:12 AM
There ya go Jon.
That looks simple........ Ugly as sin and that youre about to plough snow. But look at the Audi Quattro Pike Peak car from the 80s. It was gorgeous yet ugly at the same time, yeah ..........it makes sense in my head.
That thing is a piece of 3/4" ply for ya base, cut it to your shape, route a full 10mm rad on the front lip, by the time you layered up some filler on it, the ply will be 20mm. Then glue on slabs of polystyrene insulation from B&Q.
Shape it to the desired profile, skim of filler, (dont forget to PVA it or the filler will melt the foam) and boom you have a pattern. Soon make a mould and get a product from that.
You can unbolt it and use it as a standard westy while you tinker with Dive Planes for some fine tuning.
Maybe when I start moulding my front bumper youll get some more inspiration? Whats your strap line? Worry less, dream more!
Gaining an extra 40Kgs of downforce on the front end at high speed surely has to be a cheaper option that forking out for more traction on wider wheels and sticky rubber. Seems like you have nothing to lose.
Anyway, I set the alarm to come n play for the day, have a super day
That looks simple........ Ugly as sin and that youre about to plough snow. But look at the Audi Quattro Pike Peak car from the 80s. It was gorgeous yet ugly at the same time, yeah ..........it makes sense in my head.
That thing is a piece of 3/4" ply for ya base, cut it to your shape, route a full 10mm rad on the front lip, by the time you layered up some filler on it, the ply will be 20mm. Then glue on slabs of polystyrene insulation from B&Q.
Shape it to the desired profile, skim of filler, (dont forget to PVA it or the filler will melt the foam) and boom you have a pattern. Soon make a mould and get a product from that.
You can unbolt it and use it as a standard westy while you tinker with Dive Planes for some fine tuning.
Maybe when I start moulding my front bumper youll get some more inspiration? Whats your strap line? Worry less, dream more!
Gaining an extra 40Kgs of downforce on the front end at high speed surely has to be a cheaper option that forking out for more traction on wider wheels and sticky rubber. Seems like you have nothing to lose.
Anyway, I set the alarm to come n play for the day, have a super day
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 07:17:15 AM
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 07:17:15 AM
Yep thats it...snow plough..ugly as sin but if it works worth ago.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 07:33:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 07:33:10 AM
If your traction is too great on the front end as a result and the tail gets loose, you can fine tune the front end, a cordless drill and a 2†tank cutter till you get the balance right lol.
Can unbolt it and make a less aggressive one if you wanna make it pretty lol
Can unbolt it and make a less aggressive one if you wanna make it pretty lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 07:44:05 AM
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 07:44:05 AM
Once the rx7 is back together i fancy giving this ago...only 1 sec to find and nailed the design brief! Ill make it (gotta learn new thing) will just need your fibreglass/ mould guidance. I did watch some you tube vids a while on mould making etc ..forgot it all now.
I was gonna weld some extra box section onto front of car. Box section into box section so can slip the front "plough" on and drop x2 pins into secure.
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I was gonna weld some extra box section onto front of car. Box section into box section so can slip the front "plough" on and drop x2 pins into secure.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 07:59:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 07:59:06 AM
Sorted! now ya talking.
Have a look at this page, its where I get some of my inspiration from
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Chrisisaacsracecars/photos/?tab=album&album_id=922312744451981
This is a good link also to get the basics. You need the underside slightly pointing down, only by 1 or 2 degrees. But reducing the amount of air flowing under reduces pressure and it will create an amount of suck down.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
It will probably make little difference on a westy compared to a closed wheel saloon with a larger underfloor area, but adopt the principles as "good practise"as its better than having it pointing in the oppose direction and promoting lift .
No problem on the grp.............. if you need me to pop down on a Sat morning or whatever to get you started thats no aggro, just let me know either way. Happy to help.
Back to it, my shed looks like a bad day in Bosnia! Apologies to any Bosnians on this Forum.
Have a look at this page, its where I get some of my inspiration from
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Chrisisaacsracecars/photos/?tab=album&album_id=922312744451981
This is a good link also to get the basics. You need the underside slightly pointing down, only by 1 or 2 degrees. But reducing the amount of air flowing under reduces pressure and it will create an amount of suck down.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
It will probably make little difference on a westy compared to a closed wheel saloon with a larger underfloor area, but adopt the principles as "good practise"as its better than having it pointing in the oppose direction and promoting lift .
No problem on the grp.............. if you need me to pop down on a Sat morning or whatever to get you started thats no aggro, just let me know either way. Happy to help.
Back to it, my shed looks like a bad day in Bosnia! Apologies to any Bosnians on this Forum.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
Post by: boosted on February 23, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
Cheers mate.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 05:56:37 AM
Yeah ! Does this look like a panhard rod Westfield agony aunt problem corner...... Start ya own thread!
Ha ha ha ha I'm kidding right.
That's a far point jarno,...... I've never made a watts linkage as I've had enough clearance to cope with panhard rod........ But they don't look difficult.
A few mods before race season Jon? Need to get some more traction on that front end without chucking bags of cement in the passenger footwell.
Well, its not about clearence, its about movement. Panhard makes diff move too much, Wat doesent...
Unfortunately, my english isnt too good so I cant explain these technical things...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Don’t panic your English is better than my Finnish, I know exactly what you mean.
The centre of the diff moves laterally as well as it moves vertically due to the arc travel of the Panhard rod, where the watts linkage just allows vertical travel.
That work for you ?
The centre of the diff moves laterally as well as it moves vertically due to the arc travel of the Panhard rod, where the watts linkage just allows vertical travel.
That work for you ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Don’t panic your English is better than my Finnish, I know exactly what you mean.
The centre of the diff moves laterally as well as it moves vertically due to the arc travel of the Panhard rod, where the watts linkage just allows vertical travel.
That work for you ?
Exactly! That causes whole diff live under braking and acceleration. And that means that rear rubbers contact to surfase is not optimal. When I saw Jons car, I saw that it was "Old school" stuff. There is room for improvement. However, at that point, it did work. But Jon and car has gone above that point. It just doesent work anymore... Sorry gents, just my few thoughts, Im drunk ;) :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 23, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
Shandy pants !!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:30:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:30:57 PM
Update......
Did this yesterday, never done this before....ever............. I just "wing" it :-\ :-\
From from my Victorian wheel alignment tool, and yes, that IS a bracket for a hanging basket!!!
Got lots of shaping to go yet, and Im only one the first one. No seriously, Im doing to be doing this for EVER!.
The front wing will be interesting, as Im changing the position of the ridge at the top of the wing and lifting it up, hence the laser level... that worked out nicely.
Did this yesterday, never done this before....ever............. I just "wing" it :-\ :-\
From from my Victorian wheel alignment tool, and yes, that IS a bracket for a hanging basket!!!
Got lots of shaping to go yet, and Im only one the first one. No seriously, Im doing to be doing this for EVER!.
The front wing will be interesting, as Im changing the position of the ridge at the top of the wing and lifting it up, hence the laser level... that worked out nicely.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:31:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:31:51 PM
Last few
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 02:45:36 PM
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 02:45:36 PM
Excellent job, I particularly like the fact that you have keep the Elan type styling rather making slab sided box arches.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
Cheers Clive ! :13:
I still want to keep the styling cues from the original elan, rather than it looking like its crashed into a pile of MAX POWER magazines.
When its all finished, Im taking it to my local Lotus dealer, Paul Matty Sprotcars, complaining that my elan is making a rather strange BRAP BRAP BRAP sound.
...........See how long it takes him to chase me off the forecourt lol
I still want to keep the styling cues from the original elan, rather than it looking like its crashed into a pile of MAX POWER magazines.
When its all finished, Im taking it to my local Lotus dealer, Paul Matty Sprotcars, complaining that my elan is making a rather strange BRAP BRAP BRAP sound.
...........See how long it takes him to chase me off the forecourt lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 05:59:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 05:59:52 PM
Clag it up......
Shot of standard width and new width
Enough for today.......... going in for a bath, school tomorrow
Shot of standard width and new width
Enough for today.......... going in for a bath, school tomorrow
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 08:26:49 PM
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 08:26:49 PM
Just spotted the suspension query. Even I was puzzled by this one because normally you would measure toe on the outside edge because if you measure toe from the inside edge, toe on the outside edge will become less accentuated .
Rear Toe will always need to have toe in as toe out is really dangerous on the rear, I remember reading about a jag that was sent out at Le Manns and was so unstable it resulted in a horrendous accident on the Mulsanne straight due to its instability due to setting toe out on the rear.
Jamie, what suspension set up are you running.
Maybe worth knowing that if your on stock Lotus arms at the front, that Lotus and many other F1 cars of the era of your car, used the main starting point settings taken from of all things-----------a Triumph Herald !
Maybe worth knowing that I always run the front parallel because when you plot out Akerman angle on any car, this makes the inside wheel as you enter a corner turn out a little more and this aids turn in "feel"
Hope this helps, even only a little. ;)
Rear Toe will always need to have toe in as toe out is really dangerous on the rear, I remember reading about a jag that was sent out at Le Manns and was so unstable it resulted in a horrendous accident on the Mulsanne straight due to its instability due to setting toe out on the rear.
Jamie, what suspension set up are you running.
Maybe worth knowing that if your on stock Lotus arms at the front, that Lotus and many other F1 cars of the era of your car, used the main starting point settings taken from of all things-----------a Triumph Herald !
Maybe worth knowing that I always run the front parallel because when you plot out Akerman angle on any car, this makes the inside wheel as you enter a corner turn out a little more and this aids turn in "feel"
Hope this helps, even only a little. ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 24, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
Hey Clive,
It's all stock rx8 front n rear
It's all stock rx8 front n rear
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 25, 2019, 05:36:35 AM
Post by: re japi on February 25, 2019, 05:36:35 AM
I really like that, looks awesome! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 07:13:41 AM
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 07:13:41 AM
Stock RX-8 suspension should be awesome as a starting point :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 25, 2019, 08:33:03 AM
Post by: clive on February 25, 2019, 08:33:03 AM
Here we go, this will give a good starting point.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 08:55:10 AM
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 08:55:10 AM
Here's my last RX-8 setup, which I've not changed, as I find it works well for me. Very similar to Clive's!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 25, 2019, 10:00:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 25, 2019, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: clive on February 25, 2019, 08:33:03 AM
Here we go, this will give a good starting point.
Cheers guys,
Looking at this it looks like
Front
6 degrees of castor
1.4 degree of negative camber
Toe virtually straight ahead with a slight amount of toe in.
Rear
2 degree of negative camber
Toe virtually straight ahead with a slight amount of toe out.
I can see why toe out on the rear is "not preferred" as your outside wheel is going to be trying to whip you round, esp if it toes out further during suspension compression with weight transfer.
But the diagram suggests toe in on front, tow out on the rear.
........... and I was never going to use the Triumph Herald suspension lol.
I think by the time ive finished, only the rook panel with be the original lotus part un modified.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 08:55:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 08:55:31 AM
There is a car out there for everyone I guess !!
I like the SuperTrapp style mufflers, not very good at shooting flames out though.
Cant knock him for the ambitious wing styling....erm. Ive not finished mine yet, they could look gash !
I like the SuperTrapp style mufflers, not very good at shooting flames out though.
Cant knock him for the ambitious wing styling....erm. Ive not finished mine yet, they could look gash !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2019, 09:36:17 AM
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2019, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 08:55:31 AMWell I wouldnt choose SuperTrap for a rotary. Two reason:
There is a car out there for everyone I guess !!
I like the SuperTrapp style mufflers, not very good at shooting flames out though.
Cant knock him for the ambitious wing styling....erm. Ive not finished mine yet, they could look gash !
Flames and exhaust temperature will melt them.
And cause rotary is basically two stroke, they will be too restricting and may cause too much exhaust back pressure...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 09:50:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 09:50:14 AM
I wouldn't disagree with you Jarno.......
They look different, even if they are completely impractical and Im all for doing things differently. :great:
They look different, even if they are completely impractical and Im all for doing things differently. :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2019, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2019, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 09:50:14 AMWell, thats a good point
I wouldn't disagree with you Jarno.......
They look different, even if they are completely impractical and Im all for doing things differently. :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 08:23:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2019, 08:23:09 PM
Should have the offside front n rear wings done by Saturday evening, minus the beading........
Getting excited, will post pics.......
The hardest bit will be getting the near side ones to matchl lol
Getting excited, will post pics.......
The hardest bit will be getting the near side ones to matchl lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
Well I failed!
Did get as much done as I wanted :( :'( changed my mind on the shape of the front wing.
Loads of low spots still............. and theres no little flare on the edge of the opening..... so yeah far from finished.
Best to show what the wings were like before so y'all have a comparison how far out ive come.
Taking some styling cues from modern cars, they tend to have roughly 40mm gap all round the tyre. Unless they are slammed to the ground and tucked up in the arches.
Not a great fan of that look, looks like the suspension is bust, and this car lonly has 120mm ground clearance atm, even less when the underfoor aerodynamics get fitted.
Managed to get wet filler in my beard too!!! pfffftttttt .......bad weekend. :angry5: :angry5: :angry5:
Did get as much done as I wanted :( :'( changed my mind on the shape of the front wing.
Loads of low spots still............. and theres no little flare on the edge of the opening..... so yeah far from finished.
Best to show what the wings were like before so y'all have a comparison how far out ive come.
Taking some styling cues from modern cars, they tend to have roughly 40mm gap all round the tyre. Unless they are slammed to the ground and tucked up in the arches.
Not a great fan of that look, looks like the suspension is bust, and this car lonly has 120mm ground clearance atm, even less when the underfoor aerodynamics get fitted.
Managed to get wet filler in my beard too!!! pfffftttttt .......bad weekend. :angry5: :angry5: :angry5:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2019, 06:12:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2019, 06:12:25 PM
So now ive finished my hissy fit at myself ive got a shape i like and happy with.
The downside is, these are just the patterns, Ive got moulds to make, and product, and graft them on the car.....somehow.
Pants! I gotta do the other side too.
Less chit-chat, more filler!
The downside is, these are just the patterns, Ive got moulds to make, and product, and graft them on the car.....somehow.
Pants! I gotta do the other side too.
Less chit-chat, more filler!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
I hate cars!
No I hate body work and filler!
sanding has gone past the point of being theraputic and relaxing to becoming a PITA!
On the second side, trying to match up the first side. I hate cars!
Had a vist yesterday from a guy who makes motorsport fibreglass panels, so got a steer in the right direction on making the moulds, the new panels and grafting them on.
Reckon Im a month away from getting the new wings fitted yet, I hate cars!
I wanna be making brackets, underfloor bits,
Gonna have a try at painting it myself, gonna have a try at rebuilding the engine myself.....someone not too far away twisted my arm.
All thats left is everything else.
I hate cars
No I hate body work and filler!
sanding has gone past the point of being theraputic and relaxing to becoming a PITA!
On the second side, trying to match up the first side. I hate cars!
Had a vist yesterday from a guy who makes motorsport fibreglass panels, so got a steer in the right direction on making the moulds, the new panels and grafting them on.
Reckon Im a month away from getting the new wings fitted yet, I hate cars!
I wanna be making brackets, underfloor bits,
Gonna have a try at painting it myself, gonna have a try at rebuilding the engine myself.....someone not too far away twisted my arm.
All thats left is everything else.
I hate cars
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
You love it really, what else would you be doing....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 10:24:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 10:24:34 AM
Im gonna be doing this for 3 years working every day on it.
I could be in bed carrying out acts of "horizontal refreshment"
At least ive have that finished in 30 secs....... lol
maybe I just need a week break from it........ and the Rotus. :-\
I could be in bed carrying out acts of "horizontal refreshment"
At least ive have that finished in 30 secs....... lol
maybe I just need a week break from it........ and the Rotus. :-\
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:28:20 AM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:28:20 AM
Yep, walk away for abit if becoming a grind, ive done that on numerous occasions. Take a break, do summit else come back re- invigorated...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 16, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
Post by: clive on March 16, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
, gonna have a try at rebuilding the engine myself.....someone not too far away twisted my arm.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:46:17 AM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:46:17 AM
Been twisting my arm for about 5 years lol....im seeing how Jarnos pans out...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 16, 2019, 10:46:17 AM
Been twisting my arm for about 5 years lol....im seeing how Jarnos pans out...
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I cant leave anything alone ....
Theres not many more moving parts in a renesis.....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 12:30:58 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 12:30:58 PM
As I said, rotarys arent so difficult. But you need to know some, how I say, "little tricks". Research, thinking, learning, and some common sense...
Im not expert on these things. And there is just few experts here. But you have lots of experts there, that helps alot...
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Im not expert on these things. And there is just few experts here. But you have lots of experts there, that helps alot...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 12:40:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 12:40:30 PM
100% agree Jarno
but common sense isnt common.......
but common sense isnt common.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 12:45:29 PM
Exatly... and my new phone can take 900frame per second slow mo video, so when my engine blews up, we can see epic footage 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 12:53:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 12:53:37 PM
:13: :13: :13: :13:
EPIC!!
Have faith in yourself Jarno
The pics on social media look impressive...............esp the colour of that clutch !!!! :)) :)) :))
EPIC!!
Have faith in yourself Jarno
The pics on social media look impressive...............esp the colour of that clutch !!!! :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 01:06:31 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 01:06:31 PM
Lol... Naah..., 
Damit Jamie, that clutch isnt pink, its kind of lila!
My wife said that its weird how different color that thing is live compared those pics...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 01:09:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 01:09:45 PM
You must have a really bright flash on your camera.......
.... like a pink flash hahaha
.... like a pink flash hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: re japi on March 16, 2019, 12:45:29 PMWhats the sounds like? Can we pick out the apex seals dancing down the downpipe?
Exatly...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
Dammit Jamie
I reckon we can spot apexes flying out at light speed
Well, I have good confidense to my tuners. It will be fine I quess. Everything can happen tho...
Thats why desided to choose Adaptronic, I can use lots of features to keep engine relativly safe
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I reckon we can spot apexes flying out at light speed
Well, I have good confidense to my tuners. It will be fine I quess. Everything can happen tho...
Thats why desided to choose Adaptronic, I can use lots of features to keep engine relativly safe
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 02:39:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 02:39:59 PM
:icon_thumleft:
Glad you have a sense of humour Jarno.....
I dont think anyone can question the masculinity of a Viking God! pink clutch or not
Glad you have a sense of humour Jarno.....
I dont think anyone can question the masculinity of a Viking God! pink clutch or not
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on March 16, 2019, 05:40:24 PM
Post by: rote8 on March 16, 2019, 05:40:24 PM
Some Viking Gods are female if not very feminine, don't know of one that likes either pink or lilac though. :dontknow: :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Awww poor Jarno, hes getting it from all angles......
To fair, in my defense........
I only mentioned "the colour of your clutch"
Jarno mentioned the P word lollll
To fair, in my defense........
I only mentioned "the colour of your clutch"
Jarno mentioned the P word lollll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 06:56:40 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 06:56:40 PM
Ill paint whole damn engine pink...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 07:00:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 07:00:32 PM
Nooooo don’t do it......
....... you’ll have glitter shooting out the exhaust instead of flames
....... you’ll have glitter shooting out the exhaust instead of flames
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 08:40:11 PM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2019, 08:40:11 PM
It would be FABOLOUS!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 09:41:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2019, 09:41:38 PM
FYI
My gf said its lilac too...... I'm not sure what's worse tho lol
My gf said its lilac too...... I'm not sure what's worse tho lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2019, 01:17:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2019, 01:17:10 PM
So...... had another hissy fit Saturday
Had some advice from Jon to have a break, ignored him (Sorry Jon), and cracked on and the second rear wing come out better than the first side.
The arches on the back have been bugging me for a while in terms of what car they remind me of.
I know theyre a one-off secret b***ard love child of an Elan but they def remind me of another car.........then it dawned on me.....
Can ya guess what it is?
Had some advice from Jon to have a break, ignored him (Sorry Jon), and cracked on and the second rear wing come out better than the first side.
The arches on the back have been bugging me for a while in terms of what car they remind me of.
I know theyre a one-off secret b***ard love child of an Elan but they def remind me of another car.........then it dawned on me.....
Can ya guess what it is?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2019, 09:29:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2019, 09:29:06 PM
Jon, you're not my fav person ATM lol .........You n colours, got my cogs turning.
Now you picked a modern Mazda colour for your 7, you got me thinking of period Mazda colours
http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/mazda-cosmo-110-s-for-sale/
Btw, does anyone know the colour code? Just in case, can't find it online ......
Now you picked a modern Mazda colour for your 7, you got me thinking of period Mazda colours
http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/mazda-cosmo-110-s-for-sale/
Btw, does anyone know the colour code? Just in case, can't find it online ......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 19, 2019, 05:15:55 AM
Post by: boosted on March 19, 2019, 05:15:55 AM
That is lovelly orange...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 07:34:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 07:34:48 AM
Amen to that !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 10:15:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 10:15:42 AM
I think the RX3's were "mandarin orange"
I bet Clive would know!
I bet Clive would know!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 19, 2019, 11:39:00 AM
Post by: clive on March 19, 2019, 11:39:00 AM
With my anorak firmly zipped up :-[, yes RX3's came in mandarin orange ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Hahahaha :th_smiley-typing:
I think that could be the colour!!!
I think that could be the colour!!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 11:49:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 11:49:20 AM
Looks lovely with a spattering of chrome or silver and satin black mmmm or maybe carbon fibre.
The orange would also hide the rust marks from coming through, but then no risk of that on GRP lol
The orange would also hide the rust marks from coming through, but then no risk of that on GRP lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 19, 2019, 02:02:16 PM
Post by: Casey on March 19, 2019, 02:02:16 PM
I like it :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 19, 2019, 02:02:16 PM
I like it :icon_thumleft:
Yeah, it wasn't an obvious choice for me,
My fav colour is yellow, but someone else is synonymous with that colour lol. mention no names.
Besides, I don't think I can deal with all the bugs it will attract in the summer lol. At least Clive drives fast enough that they cant keep up with his.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: clive on March 19, 2019, 11:39:00 AM
With my anorak firmly zipped up :-[, yes RX3's came in mandarin orange ;)
Hey Clive,
Through your contacts etc... would you be able to find the colour code to mandarin orange???
Ive checked online, but not having much success.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
Not updated this thread for a while....
So Ive finally managed to shape all 4 wings.
Put the first coat of Crystic Primer on tonight. Mix it with the catalyst and brush it on like treacle.
2 more coats tomorrow then start flatting it all down.
Shows roughly how big the moulds are going to be, and the new panels...... then its D-Day ! lol
So Ive finally managed to shape all 4 wings.
Put the first coat of Crystic Primer on tonight. Mix it with the catalyst and brush it on like treacle.
2 more coats tomorrow then start flatting it all down.
Shows roughly how big the moulds are going to be, and the new panels...... then its D-Day ! lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:19:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:19:43 PM
Evening chaps,
If anyone would like to stick their 2 pence worth its more than welcome, as I have no experience here.
Ive acquired a freebie, double thickness ali rad, fan shroud doesnt fit perfect so brackets need cutting off and doing properly, couple more like 200 cooling fins are bent hmmmm.
How sensitive are the 8's with temp? esp with the mods I was planning...... :dontknow:
Is it worth pursueing or buy new??? :dontknow:
Ive gotta change all the front rad sub frame due to the shape of the wings, but thats no biggie..... rather get the subframe designed round a new rad if the stock one wont cope.
Dimensions of the diffuser isnt playing ball with the chassis design, :violent1: so Im off in to sulk with my bedtime reading
If anyone would like to stick their 2 pence worth its more than welcome, as I have no experience here.
Ive acquired a freebie, double thickness ali rad, fan shroud doesnt fit perfect so brackets need cutting off and doing properly, couple more like 200 cooling fins are bent hmmmm.
How sensitive are the 8's with temp? esp with the mods I was planning...... :dontknow:
Is it worth pursueing or buy new??? :dontknow:
Ive gotta change all the front rad sub frame due to the shape of the wings, but thats no biggie..... rather get the subframe designed round a new rad if the stock one wont cope.
Dimensions of the diffuser isnt playing ball with the chassis design, :violent1: so Im off in to sulk with my bedtime reading
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 07:22:48 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 07:22:48 PM
Buy new highly critical that you have a branded quality Alloy rad esp. For track use...Koyo rad gets my vote.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
Ok, RBE I presume?
quick question?
Just on the RBE website, noticed the integral filler cap, does that suggest I do away with the header tank?
quick question?
Just on the RBE website, noticed the integral filler cap, does that suggest I do away with the header tank?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
Mmmm RBE? Whats that...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:58:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 07:58:21 PM
Racing beat Europe?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 08:11:45 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 08:11:45 PM
Ahhh, soz been a long day....Clive sell Koyo...not sure could be wrong but dont think rbe make rads.
I think your chouces are radtec mishimoto and koyo...
Id have a word with Clive...unless that rads branded i wouldnt risk it.
Ive got a koyo on fd and radtec on westy...the Koyos better...dual pass.
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I think your chouces are radtec mishimoto and koyo...
Id have a word with Clive...unless that rads branded i wouldnt risk it.
Ive got a koyo on fd and radtec on westy...the Koyos better...dual pass.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 08:19:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 08:19:49 PM
No panic, I didn't explain myself very well, I meant purchase from rbe.....
Yeah there's 3 types of aftermarket ones
Dual pass? Soz
Yeah there's 3 types of aftermarket ones
Dual pass? Soz
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2019, 06:29:27 PM
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2019, 06:29:27 PM
+1 for the Koyo. I use it in my RX-8 as cooling is a big issue for a track work.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2019, 06:35:58 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2019, 06:35:58 PM
Dual pass, 2 chambers, coolant does a double pass..so not in at bottom out at top easiest route...effectively in at bottom pass through to top, pass to bottom out at top..superior cooling.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on March 28, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on March 28, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
A modified Koyo in one V mount set up the seconds running a mishimoto RX8 rad and intercooler shoe horned into the V.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
Kev, Im lost! lol
Diffuser design coming along
Diffuser design coming along
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on March 28, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on March 28, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
I know who to see as the master of solid works when I want some more parts designing for the 3d printer, I normally end up making dummy thin wall prints for mocking up purposes before the main one.
RE a V mount It's just a slightly different radiator intercooler set up.
Essentially three variations of a theme top mount is with the rad in the traditional position with a intercooler above the engine the big down side to this is heat soak plus point shorter pipe runs
Front mount the intercooler is in front of a traditionally placed radiator it necessitates longer pipe runs and obviously as you've a heater in front of the rad air temps passing through it are higher and tend to have less velocity offsetting this is cooler combustion air temps to the engine and less heat soak.
V mount has the cooler horizontally mounted (ish) with the radiator below and cantered back with ducting you can get full velocity ambient air temps to both rad and intercooler at the expense of more engineering and possible space issues.
RE a V mount It's just a slightly different radiator intercooler set up.
Essentially three variations of a theme top mount is with the rad in the traditional position with a intercooler above the engine the big down side to this is heat soak plus point shorter pipe runs
Front mount the intercooler is in front of a traditionally placed radiator it necessitates longer pipe runs and obviously as you've a heater in front of the rad air temps passing through it are higher and tend to have less velocity offsetting this is cooler combustion air temps to the engine and less heat soak.
V mount has the cooler horizontally mounted (ish) with the radiator below and cantered back with ducting you can get full velocity ambient air temps to both rad and intercooler at the expense of more engineering and possible space issues.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 08:35:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 28, 2019, 06:35:58 PM
Dual pass, 2 chambers, coolant does a double pass..so not in at bottom out at top easiest route...effectively in at bottom pass through to top, pass to bottom out at top..superior cooling.
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Gotcha !!!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: kev-yorks on March 28, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
I know who to see as the master of solid works when I want some more parts designing for the 3d printer, I normally end up making dummy thin wall prints for mocking up purposes before the main one.
RE a V mount It's just a slightly different radiator intercooler set up.
Essentially three variations of a theme top mount is with the rad in the traditional position with a intercooler above the engine the big down side to this is heat soak plus point shorter pipe runs
Front mount the intercooler is in front of a traditionally placed radiator it necessitates longer pipe runs and obviously as you've a heater in front of the rad air temps passing through it are higher and tend to have less velocity offsetting this is cooler combustion air temps to the engine and less heat soak.
V mount has the cooler horizontally mounted (ish) with the radiator below and cantered back with ducting you can get full velocity ambient air temps to both rad and intercooler at the expense of more engineering and possible space issues.
Oh ok, I need to caviat it with, I'm not running intercooler as its N/A nor the air conditioner cooler/rad.
Just tilting it forward a fraction from stock to clear the bodywork.
No worries on the CAD, just bear in mind I'm far from an expert on CAD. I'm better at hands on, but I use CAD when it's quicker than building prototypes to prove something off
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 30, 2019, 01:56:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 30, 2019, 01:56:33 PM
Update...... so, Ive changed my mind...........again !
The new Koyo rad is on the horizon, and it needs tipping forward a tad more to get it under the nose cone! Most will call it a bumper, but Im calling it a nose cone, all will become clear (as mud)
So the original rad sub frame is junk, carved a load off but using it to hold the wood for the pattern.
So we're extending the front wings around the wheels a bit more and making the whole front flat rather than it pointing out in the middle.
Need to lay up some fibre glass on the leading edge of the bonnet opening and have a vertical return going down the flatfront.
The vertical flange will serve 2 purposes, firstly be the start to making the inner wheel arch "liners" with the integral louvres as per the RX8 to vent the hot oil cooler air into the wheel well.
The vertcial flange will also provide mounting for the nose cone, which will house the headlights, thinking of a similar set up as the 787B with polycarbonate covers.
The nose cone will have the splitter and dive planes, house the air filter too.
Its a long road.........
The new Koyo rad is on the horizon, and it needs tipping forward a tad more to get it under the nose cone! Most will call it a bumper, but Im calling it a nose cone, all will become clear (as mud)
So the original rad sub frame is junk, carved a load off but using it to hold the wood for the pattern.
So we're extending the front wings around the wheels a bit more and making the whole front flat rather than it pointing out in the middle.
Need to lay up some fibre glass on the leading edge of the bonnet opening and have a vertical return going down the flatfront.
The vertical flange will serve 2 purposes, firstly be the start to making the inner wheel arch "liners" with the integral louvres as per the RX8 to vent the hot oil cooler air into the wheel well.
The vertcial flange will also provide mounting for the nose cone, which will house the headlights, thinking of a similar set up as the 787B with polycarbonate covers.
The nose cone will have the splitter and dive planes, house the air filter too.
Its a long road.........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Finally got round to ordering the passenger seat.
Had to get the widest one available for ........erm......wider hips lol
Had to get the widest one available for ........erm......wider hips lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2019, 02:13:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2019, 02:13:50 PM
Well the patterns have got to the next stage..... first few coats of primer flatted down.
Despite all the colour differences, its actually mirror smooth.
just goes to show when you think youve got a panel smooth with filler theres still highs n lows. At least my arms got a work out past few weeks, saved gym membership........
I wish I could just lacquer it now, but theyre a tad heavy lol.
Onward......next bit. Never thought id say i miss fibreglassing,
Despite all the colour differences, its actually mirror smooth.
just goes to show when you think youve got a panel smooth with filler theres still highs n lows. At least my arms got a work out past few weeks, saved gym membership........
I wish I could just lacquer it now, but theyre a tad heavy lol.
Onward......next bit. Never thought id say i miss fibreglassing,
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 08:59:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 08:59:31 AM
A year ago today I finished my chassis build
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155658901095805&set=a.10155375624865805&type=3&sfns=mo
Seems like 10 years since then
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155658901095805&set=a.10155375624865805&type=3&sfns=mo
Seems like 10 years since then
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:18:38 AM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:18:38 AM
Can't see that link Jamie - private permissions maybe?
Have sent you a Facebook Friend request :)
Have sent you a Facebook Friend request :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 09:40:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 09:40:35 AM
Added you ole bean :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
:sign0098: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: Great set of pictures (and vid!) :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 06:53:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 07, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
:sign0098: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: Great set of pictures (and vid!) :)
Oh the father in law chuntering on about power steering? lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 07:00:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 07:00:39 PM
Ok so im trying to re-introduce some Lotus styling again to the wings, as I had to cut the originals off.
Had some 8mm solid bar rolled to the diameter of the wooden template, then massaged them to fit the curvature of the wing.
Bonded them on with some filler, sand, (bit more to do) and voila!
Radiused flares, just like the original wings!
Its the tiny details like this that finish it off
Had some 8mm solid bar rolled to the diameter of the wooden template, then massaged them to fit the curvature of the wing.
Bonded them on with some filler, sand, (bit more to do) and voila!
Radiused flares, just like the original wings!
Its the tiny details like this that finish it off
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Again.....................these wing patterns!
Finished shaping the beading, last few coats of primer going on, flat it all down tonight and I could be making moulds tomorrow......about time!!!
Ive put the pimer on with a roller this time opposed to a brush as it took ages to sand the brush marks out. Spraying this stuff on is not an option at this stage.
The roller left a nice orange peel look. When I paint it manderin orange, shall I roller it on for that true authentic orange look ? lol
Finished shaping the beading, last few coats of primer going on, flat it all down tonight and I could be making moulds tomorrow......about time!!!
Ive put the pimer on with a roller this time opposed to a brush as it took ages to sand the brush marks out. Spraying this stuff on is not an option at this stage.
The roller left a nice orange peel look. When I paint it manderin orange, shall I roller it on for that true authentic orange look ? lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2019, 01:13:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2019, 01:13:31 PM
Finally, 8 weeks have passed and Ive finished the patterns. From screwing wooden wheels to the alloys, timber alignment tools, PU expanding foam, filler filler filler filler filler, primer to sanding the last bit last night.
that's 2 weeks each corner, pfffft
Ill be waxing next tonight and making the moulds, plenty of pics soon.
that's 2 weeks each corner, pfffft
Ill be waxing next tonight and making the moulds, plenty of pics soon.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 16, 2019, 09:02:47 PM
Post by: clive on April 16, 2019, 09:02:47 PM
You are to be commended, such patience to produce such a work of art.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2019, 09:06:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2019, 09:06:10 PM
its the better half who has more patience than me.........
It's my art form......she's the shed widow.
It's my art form......she's the shed widow.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 08:00:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 08:00:47 PM
Ok Gents!
Id like people to put their two pence worth on a matter as I cant decide.
Im killing time after putting the first coat of gel coat on for the moulds and thought Id offer up some LED lights I bought a while back.
I sold the original lights well quite frankly the lenses were cracked, chrome pitted, and I didnt like the design of them, theyre off a Federal Jaguar I think, sold to the American market originaly.......... well I got £130 quid for 2 battered lights I hated. (First rear light pic)
Anyhow, universal LED combination lights tend to be a bit commercial for lorry trailers, tractors and kit cars etc.
So I cant decide on whether my original rectangluar ones modelled by chewbacca arms, round ones, or the lozenge shaped thingys.
The rear valance needs to be modified anyway to accept new lights, so its not a case of what will fit best, more of what looks more appropriate.
The round ones are deep housings, so they will be recessed into the panel.
Let me know what you think, but please dont say, put the originals back on! lol
Id like people to put their two pence worth on a matter as I cant decide.
Im killing time after putting the first coat of gel coat on for the moulds and thought Id offer up some LED lights I bought a while back.
I sold the original lights well quite frankly the lenses were cracked, chrome pitted, and I didnt like the design of them, theyre off a Federal Jaguar I think, sold to the American market originaly.......... well I got £130 quid for 2 battered lights I hated. (First rear light pic)
Anyhow, universal LED combination lights tend to be a bit commercial for lorry trailers, tractors and kit cars etc.
So I cant decide on whether my original rectangluar ones modelled by chewbacca arms, round ones, or the lozenge shaped thingys.
The rear valance needs to be modified anyway to accept new lights, so its not a case of what will fit best, more of what looks more appropriate.
The round ones are deep housings, so they will be recessed into the panel.
Let me know what you think, but please dont say, put the originals back on! lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 17, 2019, 08:15:04 PM
Post by: clive on April 17, 2019, 08:15:04 PM
I like the WAS ones :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
:icon_thumleft:
Round......... Rotary....... If I had the ability I'd make my own rotor shaped ones with each face, stop tail and winker
The rectangle ones are a bit "truckish"
Round......... Rotary....... If I had the ability I'd make my own rotor shaped ones with each face, stop tail and winker
The rectangle ones are a bit "truckish"
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2019, 09:08:33 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2019, 09:08:33 PM
Wookie 1s...i put square led 1s on westy and binned the 1960s trailer lights that were on there...leds are hermitically sealed...job done..
Need to do my trailer 1s as left indicator aint worked for about a year.
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Need to do my trailer 1s as left indicator aint worked for about a year.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Well you are saving me money Jon as I have the rectangle ones lol
They're all LED ones.......
They're all LED ones.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 18, 2019, 05:57:44 AM
Post by: re japi on April 18, 2019, 05:57:44 AM
I reckon two round ones per side would look nice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:09:40 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:09:40 AM
Oooooo ive not thought of 2 per side.......
Now THATS got the cogs turning
I was thinking 2 headlights per side like the 787b in the top right hand corner of this forum, so that could tie in nicely.
Jon, see any issues for a current, power, brightness, wire thickness, perspective running them 2 per side????
Now THATS got the cogs turning
I was thinking 2 headlights per side like the 787b in the top right hand corner of this forum, so that could tie in nicely.
Jon, see any issues for a current, power, brightness, wire thickness, perspective running them 2 per side????
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on April 18, 2019, 08:43:11 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on April 18, 2019, 08:43:11 AM
How about taking that a stage further and a Britax L78 https://www.beaconsandlightbars.co.uk/Britax-L78-series-Rear-LED-Combination-LightPN-L14.11.12.html
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 08:59:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 08:59:32 AM
Lol they’re not bad actually !!!
I’ll get one of those flaps that go on the end of the exhaust stacks like on the big rigs
Rotary with stacks lollllll
I’ll get one of those flaps that go on the end of the exhaust stacks like on the big rigs
Rotary with stacks lollllll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2019, 06:30:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2019, 06:30:10 PM
And there is the first mould!!!
I must be happy, im smiling !!!
I must be happy, im smiling !!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:33:25 PM
Awesome...all i do is stick my fingers together and cover all my tool in resin...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2019, 06:37:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2019, 06:37:17 PM
That sounds very suggestive lol
The worst bit is defying gravity and laying up upside down, cutting pieces no bigger than 100mm x 100mm to prevent the weight of the wet matting fall away.
Oh and getting resin my beard !
The worst bit is defying gravity and laying up upside down, cutting pieces no bigger than 100mm x 100mm to prevent the weight of the wet matting fall away.
Oh and getting resin my beard !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:40:20 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:40:20 PM
Opps meant tools rofl...aint got my glasses on...and i cant spell.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
Beard snood!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 19, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
Post by: re japi on April 19, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
Looking good mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:53:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:53:06 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 19, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
Beard snood!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:53:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:53:37 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 19, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
Looking good mate
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Thanks buddy
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
Red Bull gives you wings!!!!
Or at least the moulds to make a left and right :13:
Or at least the moulds to make a left and right :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 22, 2019, 09:20:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 22, 2019, 09:20:14 AM
You would think I would get some help around here.
3 women and not a peep, daft as a brush, all 3 of them !
I live in the estrogen ocean !
3 women and not a peep, daft as a brush, all 3 of them !
I live in the estrogen ocean !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2019, 02:01:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2019, 02:01:02 PM
So..... having read boat loads on Jons westory thread, few questions.... and Malcolm Im repeating myself so apologies....
Interesting to see the choice of wheels on Jons car play an important part, with the whole weight or lack of weight issue.
Im going with 17" steels so hopefully the slighter taller sidewall and a bit more weight will cure any unsettling.
Love the sock in the shifter hole, better than that blue gear stick! lol
So for future reference....
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting? Im aiming to keep the Rotus road legal so there could be a compromise on out and out power vs drivability....
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
I don't know how many different ratios are available for the diff. Im thinking it may be worth buying a few diffs off ebay and get them rebuilt with different ratios, then its a few bolts to swap them over and being able to have a play with different set ups?
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
Im still pondering that one, as I have far from a standard set up, and I don't have Jons electrical knowledge to over come any issues.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Electric water pump???
I have a whole host of others like separate oil tanks with 2 stroke oil??? but as you know im still fannying about with fibreglass and Im not even at the stage of chucking a freshly built engine back in.....
Just rather it was "right" first time.
Interesting to see the choice of wheels on Jons car play an important part, with the whole weight or lack of weight issue.
Im going with 17" steels so hopefully the slighter taller sidewall and a bit more weight will cure any unsettling.
Love the sock in the shifter hole, better than that blue gear stick! lol
So for future reference....
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting? Im aiming to keep the Rotus road legal so there could be a compromise on out and out power vs drivability....
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
I don't know how many different ratios are available for the diff. Im thinking it may be worth buying a few diffs off ebay and get them rebuilt with different ratios, then its a few bolts to swap them over and being able to have a play with different set ups?
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
Im still pondering that one, as I have far from a standard set up, and I don't have Jons electrical knowledge to over come any issues.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Electric water pump???
I have a whole host of others like separate oil tanks with 2 stroke oil??? but as you know im still fannying about with fibreglass and Im not even at the stage of chucking a freshly built engine back in.....
Just rather it was "right" first time.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 25, 2019, 05:40:41 AM
Post by: re japi on April 25, 2019, 05:40:41 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 24, 2019, 02:01:02 PM
So..... having read boat loads on Jons westory thread, few questions.... and Malcolm Im repeating myself so apologies....
Interesting to see the choice of wheels on Jons car play an important part, with the whole weight or lack of weight issue.
Im going with 17" steels so hopefully the slighter taller sidewall and a bit more weight will cure any unsettling.
Love the sock in the shifter hole, better than that blue gear stick! lol
So for future reference....
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting? Im aiming to keep the Rotus road legal so there could be a compromise on out and out power vs drivability....
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
I don't know how many different ratios are available for the diff. Im thinking it may be worth buying a few diffs off ebay and get them rebuilt with different ratios, then its a few bolts to swap them over and being able to have a play with different set ups?
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
Im still pondering that one, as I have far from a standard set up, and I don't have Jons electrical knowledge to over come any issues.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Electric water pump???
I have a whole host of others like separate oil tanks with 2 stroke oil??? but as you know im still fannying about with fibreglass and Im not even at the stage of chucking a freshly built engine back in.....
Just rather it was "right" first time.
Well, I have heard that there is big differense in engines behaviour between street and bridge port. In paper, there is not much, but engine pick up and so on is much better.
Good bridge port can make really nice power. I reckon you can go with full bridge. Aux ports and those valves basically determines how much that engine makes in top end. As for drivebilety, those aux ports opens in high revs, so I dont think it matters in street use...
If your car stays light, 6 speed box is good enough. As Jon said, gear rations at those things are great. 5speed box is basically same that FD has, so that wont brake. However, in paper, I dont know if those rations suits your car.
There is few options for diff rations. Unfortunately, I think it is 4.88, is that one that everyone want so they cost quite alot
As for ecu, Renny ecu is actually quite amazing. Really clever and adaptive. You can "flash" it with some mazda software
I would go electric water pump definetly. Remember, if engine is red hot, for some reason it stops, water flows thru it still..
Just few thoughts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 06:08:50 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 06:08:50 AM
Thanks for your input jarno , I need to start planing all this stuff out now
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 09:48:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 09:48:14 AM
Not sure, if anyone has used this before, but I find this extremely useful at times.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
pop your existing wheel / tyre package in, and then your new proposed package and it spits out a whole load of helpful info.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
pop your existing wheel / tyre package in, and then your new proposed package and it spits out a whole load of helpful info.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 09:50:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 09:50:39 AM
.......anddddd
the colours are Mazda 787.........
im turning into such an anorak !
the colours are Mazda 787.........
im turning into such an anorak !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 25, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 25, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
Use that all the time :)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 08:06:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 08:06:24 PM
Gud innit ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 08:12:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 08:12:38 PM
First of the front moulds,
smaller but more complicated, hence the 3 parts
smaller but more complicated, hence the 3 parts
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 25, 2019, 09:53:43 PM
Post by: clive on April 25, 2019, 09:53:43 PM
Just picked up on this.
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting?
With a properly Bridged Renesis the car will drive like a stock car till around 6800 then take off again like it has a small turbo fitted.
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
Maybe worth know that the 5 speed box will dump a lot of weight out of the car and without looking 1st is a longer gear. Next, although expensive fitting a 4.7 dif ratio (R3 Ratio) will not only help the car but close the gears up, effectively making a closer ratio box.
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
May not give more power but with the ability to tune the car would have better mid range power which in turn will push the car up the road faster.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering):2.99 / I converted my rack to a non power rack to dump weight and get more feel (driver feed back)
Electric water pump???
I have used one since the race car was built, great bit of kit plus you can leave it on for a while after a run to let everything cool nicely
Is there much noticeable diff in performance between Street and Bridge porting?
With a properly Bridged Renesis the car will drive like a stock car till around 6800 then take off again like it has a small turbo fitted.
Is it worthy of different gearbox internals, I don't need a full on quaife set, but should I be installing a close ratio set with long first gear or are the standard ratios fine?
Maybe worth know that the 5 speed box will dump a lot of weight out of the car and without looking 1st is a longer gear. Next, although expensive fitting a 4.7 dif ratio (R3 Ratio) will not only help the car but close the gears up, effectively making a closer ratio box.
Interesting from Jons thread a comment that says that the Adaptronic ECU "doesnt give more power"
May not give more power but with the ability to tune the car would have better mid range power which in turn will push the car up the road faster.
Is an RX8 steering rack available in quick rack maybe 2.2 or 2.4 turns lock to lock, then again I don't know what the standard is......
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering):2.99 / I converted my rack to a non power rack to dump weight and get more feel (driver feed back)
Electric water pump???
I have used one since the race car was built, great bit of kit plus you can leave it on for a while after a run to let everything cool nicely
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:02:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:02:09 PM
Thanks for the info Clive :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:35:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:35:58 AM
I'm in agreement on the power steering rack, it does weigh a tonne and doubtful I'll need ps in a light car, I have a spare rack, so I could have a play.
It there any conversion kits or is is literally remove weight from the right places with tools?
It there any conversion kits or is is literally remove weight from the right places with tools?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 26, 2019, 05:39:23 AM
Post by: re japi on April 26, 2019, 05:39:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
RX-8 Low power version (192). You can find them from your scrappers really cheap
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:47:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:47:58 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 26, 2019, 05:39:23 AMQuote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
For future reference, which model was the 5 speed fitted to?
RX-8 Low power version (192). You can find them from your scrappers really cheap
Thanks jarno, just took a punt on one on eBay, already paid, 70 quid, bargain , could be collecting tomorrow
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:55:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:55:03 AM
Can't find any later R3 diffs,
I'm assuming, the 4.7 crown wheel/ring gear and pinion are interchangeable between housings? I'll try n get a complete diff, coz that will be cheaper initially
I'm assuming, the 4.7 crown wheel/ring gear and pinion are interchangeable between housings? I'll try n get a complete diff, coz that will be cheaper initially
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 26, 2019, 06:03:03 AM
Post by: re japi on April 26, 2019, 06:03:03 AM
Those R3 are very wanted. I reckon you need time and luck to get one
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 09:03:41 AM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 09:03:41 AM
Morning,
Yes the CWP's are fully interchangeable.
For the rack, I posted my conversion with pictures around a year ago in my race car thread.
You need to chop the magnets off and make an adaptor to stop the screw being able to operate, pop the tin cover off and all will became apparent.
Yes the CWP's are fully interchangeable.
For the rack, I posted my conversion with pictures around a year ago in my race car thread.
You need to chop the magnets off and make an adaptor to stop the screw being able to operate, pop the tin cover off and all will became apparent.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Thanks Clive I’ll take a peek, stripping my spare rack will be a nice break from fibreglass
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
Clive / Jon
Can you give any advice on which standard flywheel, clutch pressure plate combo I need to be using with the 5 speed box, or whether there is any special components required?
Thanks
Can you give any advice on which standard flywheel, clutch pressure plate combo I need to be using with the 5 speed box, or whether there is any special components required?
Thanks
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2019, 05:38:11 PM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2019, 05:38:11 PM
Will be over to Clive...std fit was exedy...Clive sells exedy 1s...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
Ok cool, I'll wait for Clives words of wisdom
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:06:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:06:42 PM
So .......
Not bad for a mornings work, complete front and rear end and calipers as spares.
Cousin needs the subframes back to make a jig, then he is gonna "bin them" in case anybody needs a subframe?
*coughJonRX8rearendwestfieldcough*
Im guessing the gear stick hole pokes through the car in the same place as the 6 speed, or am I making a bent knitting needle gear stick?
It dawned on me this morning, when I chat to Jon about mods to get the car ready he saves me money, when I chat to Clive, my wallet hurts. LOL!!
Its all good in the hood :icon_thumleft:
Not bad for a mornings work, complete front and rear end and calipers as spares.
Cousin needs the subframes back to make a jig, then he is gonna "bin them" in case anybody needs a subframe?
*coughJonRX8rearendwestfieldcough*
Im guessing the gear stick hole pokes through the car in the same place as the 6 speed, or am I making a bent knitting needle gear stick?
It dawned on me this morning, when I chat to Jon about mods to get the car ready he saves me money, when I chat to Clive, my wallet hurts. LOL!!
Its all good in the hood :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 04:12:52 PM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 04:12:52 PM
Ha ha...yeah im a tight arse...ive got boxes of half used brake pads...i pretty much never thrown anything away and im always in the skip at work...but when it matters i shell out.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
Thanks mate but i dont want the subframe...Westy is what she is...im just gonna drive as is.
So are you going for a lightweight flywheel now?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 27, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
Thanks mate but i dont want the subframe...Westy is what she is...im just gonna drive as is.
So are you going for a lightweight flywheel now?
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Good for you!
I was going off what you said the other night about welding an RX8 axle on the arse end.
I though it was a bad idea at the time, unless you can find a different disc caliper combo to fit over 15" alloys.
So..... youre looking for a yank tank back axle to cope with the RX7 power then? LOL
RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days becuase he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Ill stick with stock for now, its something to possibly play with in the future if need be...... unless someone convinces me otherwise.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
now i have the moulds finished I got a sense of nervousness........
Its crunch time! I gotta start carving up a car. No pressure.
God I hope it works ! LOL
Im not overly confident :dontknow: :dontknow:
I could be settling for the below.
Its crunch time! I gotta start carving up a car. No pressure.
God I hope it works ! LOL
Im not overly confident :dontknow: :dontknow:
I could be settling for the below.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
With the quality of those moulds you will be fine.
Now you can really undress the car
Now you can really undress the car
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:37:42 PM
With the quality of those moulds you will be fine.
Now you can really undress the car
I'm not posting pics till it looks spot on
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days because he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Just spotted this,
No no no. So many people get confused about light flywheels, 100% the inertia is decreased not increased.
First one I fitted to an RX-8 many years ago still leaves me with the impression that it was an improvement because it let the revs die faster allowing the next gear to be picked up quicker.
Even very early "engines" had BIG flywheels to make use of inertia to help stop things slowing down
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 05:15:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 05:15:08 AM
Quote from: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:52:38 PMQuote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
The moulds don't bother me, it's cutting so much off the car, and not being able to brace the shell, and things moving about.
Hopefully the roll cage will keep things in check, as everything is tied back into the chassis.
I could try and weld some triangulation braces in here n there but I may have trouble arcing up lol
Just gonna tackle one corner at a time, slow n steady wins the race n all that.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 06:04:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 06:04:08 AM
Quote from: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:49:41 PMQuote from: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 04:58:50 PM
RE: lightened flywheel........ i was gonna stick with the stock one. Interestingly, talking with the cousin earlier he was saying he wanted a lightened flywheel for the track days because he found the revs were not dying down quickly enough when changing down because of the increased inertia...
Just spotted this,
No no no. So many people get confused about light flywheels, 100% the inertia is decreased not increased.
First one I fitted to an RX-8 many years ago still leaves me with the impression that it was an improvement because it let the revs die faster allowing the next gear to be picked up quicker.
Even very early "engines" had BIG flywheels to make use of inertia to help stop things slowing down
I think we're both arguing the same point here, but lost in translation or poor terminology.
It's one for a face to face discussion one day.
So..... The burning question
The 5 speed box.... Do I keep the 231 flywheel, is there any difference from the 192 version, and if I keep the larger 6 speed clutch, will the shaft on the 5 speed still engage, or do I need a different clutch plate?
I need to drive the car first before I can decide on lightened flywheels. It all comes back to whether I can maintain identity of an Elan for the purpose of a road vehicle, and not have to go down the IVA route.
The design features on a 70s car are unlikely to pass all the criteria within IVA/SVA.
I'm not going to waste time bringing a car up to a level to pacify some numpty who makes decisions in Brussels, I'm aware of my building capabilities, I know I can build a car that's safe to be on the road. I know we have to have standards to prevent cars being built from wattle n daub and chicken wire, but the IVA is sooo strict these days and is slowly preventing home builders building cars at home. Bloody Belgians .
So if I can't, it's all out track day weapon.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 30, 2019, 08:02:18 AM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2019, 08:02:18 AM
Real simple this one, keep the bigger 231 flywheel and clutch assembly and the 5 speed will bolt in as a direct swap. Prop and gearbox wiring is the same the only thing you will need is the gear leaver to go with the 5 speed gear box as the 6 speed leaver is different.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2019, 08:34:44 AM
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2019, 08:34:44 AM
I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:50:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: clive on April 30, 2019, 08:02:18 AM
Real simple this one, keep the bigger 231 flywheel and clutch assembly and the 5 speed will bolt in as a direct swap. Prop and gearbox wiring is the same the only thing you will need is the gear leaver to go with the 5 speed gear box as the 6 speed leaver is different.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for that Clive :icon_thumleft:, Ive sourced one at the weekend via "Big Pete"? I guess hes BIG. lol.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 30, 2019, 08:34:44 AM
I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Ive heard good and bad for both lightened and stock, Im gonna keep it stock for now, its not a huge task to swap it out at a later date.
I need to get a feel for the car, everything is new, suspension, the geometry, wheels/ tyres, there are going to some bits I like and some bits I don't.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
Is this what it looks like in GRP heaven?
Nice to see a baby Elan, a Europa, and a plus 2 like mine all side by side, same era yet very different cars.
Colin Chapman should have utilized the rotary years ago !
Nice to see a baby Elan, a Europa, and a plus 2 like mine all side by side, same era yet very different cars.
Colin Chapman should have utilized the rotary years ago !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2019, 11:16:10 AM
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2019, 11:16:10 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:53:57 AMI agreeQuote from: re japi on April 30, 2019, 08:34:44 AM
I agree with Clive
But flywheel, I wouldnt go with lighter one. Thats the only thing that keeps Rennys torque in decent numbers.
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Ive heard good and bad for both lightened and stock, Im gonna keep it stock for now, its not a huge task to swap it out at a later date.
I need to get a feel for the car, everything is new, suspension, the geometry, wheels/ tyres, there are going to some bits I like and some bits I don't.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on April 30, 2019, 07:55:21 PM
Post by: rote8 on April 30, 2019, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:50:26 AM
Ive sourced one at the weekend via "Big Pete"? I guess hes BIG. lol
Errrr quite the opposite, knee high to a grasshopper, but don't tell him I said so. :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
OK guys, I apologise in advance, more stupid questions, but in my defence, If I ask Q? im a fool for 5 mins, if I dont ask Im a fool forever!
So, been on RBE web site and looking at Electric Water Pumps. Happy with the concept, and like the look of the additional LCD controller, will look ace sat behind the steering wheel as all the rest of the gauges are in the middle of the dash....
Anyway
1, The Davies Craig controller will control the stock fan set up? as well as the pump.
2, see photo, Im assuming behind my hand and the hose is the thermostat?
3, If i remove the entire stock water pump and use the blanking plate from RBE, will the thermostat housing and pipework inlets and outlets for the rad and heater disappear with the pump? i.e. its all one casting
4, if so, what is the best way to get the water back into the engine?
5, if I remove the stock water pump (weight saving :icon_thumleft:) is a ribbed belt available for the lower pulley and alternator?
Diff topic
6, I think i read somewhere, that you should use mineral oil as semi and fully synthetic fouls plugs. If I run a sperate tank just with 2 stroke oil in for lubricating inside the rotor housings, is it then beneficial to use semi or fully synthetic for lubricating the E shaft?
7, if my assumptions in Q6 correct can any one send any pics or links showing the set up?
8, is this the preffered method, by running a seperate oil tank, or did I just dream that up?
Thanks guys.......still feel like a fool lol
So, been on RBE web site and looking at Electric Water Pumps. Happy with the concept, and like the look of the additional LCD controller, will look ace sat behind the steering wheel as all the rest of the gauges are in the middle of the dash....
Anyway
1, The Davies Craig controller will control the stock fan set up? as well as the pump.
2, see photo, Im assuming behind my hand and the hose is the thermostat?
3, If i remove the entire stock water pump and use the blanking plate from RBE, will the thermostat housing and pipework inlets and outlets for the rad and heater disappear with the pump? i.e. its all one casting
4, if so, what is the best way to get the water back into the engine?
5, if I remove the stock water pump (weight saving :icon_thumleft:) is a ribbed belt available for the lower pulley and alternator?
Diff topic
6, I think i read somewhere, that you should use mineral oil as semi and fully synthetic fouls plugs. If I run a sperate tank just with 2 stroke oil in for lubricating inside the rotor housings, is it then beneficial to use semi or fully synthetic for lubricating the E shaft?
7, if my assumptions in Q6 correct can any one send any pics or links showing the set up?
8, is this the preffered method, by running a seperate oil tank, or did I just dream that up?
Thanks guys.......still feel like a fool lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 09:45:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:52:38 PMQuote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
I've done jarno's and jon's threads ..........time for Clives, on page 66 so far........... Got paid for 90 mins today to get educated......yes you've had issues, you're carrying out something that's not been done before........I know that feeing
We certainly put ourselves through the wars, westory, fd in an 8, Rotus.........as the saying goes, "if it was easy, everyone would do it"
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 06:43:17 AM
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 06:43:17 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 09:45:34 PMQuote from: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:52:38 PMQuote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2019, 08:48:15 PM
If it comes out gash, it's been nice knowing you all.
Ow, come on you have to show failing's as well as triumphs, just look at my Race car thread, there's some absolute horrors in the before the damn thing started behaving itself ;)
I've done jarno's and jon's threads ..........time for Clives, on page 66 so far........... Got paid for 90 mins today to get educated......yes you've had issues, you're carrying out something that's not been done before........I know that feeing
We certainly put ourselves through the wars, westory, fd in an 8, Rotus.........as the saying goes, "if it was easy, everyone would do it"
Check out my Bro´s built too ;D http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=70663.0
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2019, 07:08:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2019, 07:08:23 AM
Will do Kaveri :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 07:15:44 AM
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 07:15:44 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
OK guys, I apologise in advance, more stupid questions, but in my defence, If I ask Q? im a fool for 5 mins, if I dont ask Im a fool forever!
So, been on RBE web site and looking at Electric Water Pumps. Happy with the concept, and like the look of the additional LCD controller, will look ace sat behind the steering wheel as all the rest of the gauges are in the middle of the dash....
Anyway
1, The Davies Craig controller will control the stock fan set up? as well as the pump.
2, see photo, Im assuming behind my hand and the hose is the thermostat?
3, If i remove the entire stock water pump and use the blanking plate from RBE, will the thermostat housing and pipework inlets and outlets for the rad and heater disappear with the pump? i.e. its all one casting
4, if so, what is the best way to get the water back into the engine?
5, if I remove the stock water pump (weight saving :icon_thumleft:) is a ribbed belt available for the lower pulley and alternator?
Diff topic
6, I think i read somewhere, that you should use mineral oil as semi and fully synthetic fouls plugs. If I run a sperate tank just with 2 stroke oil in for lubricating inside the rotor housings, is it then beneficial to use semi or fully synthetic for lubricating the E shaft?
7, if my assumptions in Q6 correct can any one send any pics or links showing the set up?
8, is this the preffered method, by running a seperate oil tank, or did I just dream that up?
Thanks guys.......still feel like a fool lol
There are no stupid questions
Here is my few stupid answers:
1: I actually dont know can it control stock fan. I reckon that there will be some difficulties cause stock ecu is quite clever, you have to overwrite it somehow
2: Thermostat should be under upper neck of waterpump
3: There is neck adapters for removing stock water pump. However, you have to figure out how to do modify whole cooling/heating system. And you need new thermostat to control it
4:From that adapter, water goes back to engine. If I remember correctly, from left water goes out, from right water comes in
5:Dunno for sure, but removing that pulley, doesent matter. For alternator and you can use just one belt, straight from lower pulley
6:I dont know, there is so much different opinions
7:Im not sure how Rennys OMP works, but I reckon it doesen matter.
8: You can just block of normal oil feed to OMP and get that oil from seperate oil tank
Hopefully this help abit ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 01, 2019, 08:37:36 AM
Post by: clive on May 01, 2019, 08:37:36 AM
There are no stupid questions Well done Jarno, the Club was founded on this :bravo_2:.
When MRC was formed there was only really the RX7 Club forum in America to turn to and at the time if you asked a question they presumed you should know they would call you stupid! Not Good!
Anyway, Water pump, I have run this electric pump on the race car, plus we sell quite a few of these with no reported issues.
The plate for the RX-8 water pump just removes the pump leaving the water hose connections in place.
When MRC was formed there was only really the RX7 Club forum in America to turn to and at the time if you asked a question they presumed you should know they would call you stupid! Not Good!
Anyway, Water pump, I have run this electric pump on the race car, plus we sell quite a few of these with no reported issues.
The plate for the RX-8 water pump just removes the pump leaving the water hose connections in place.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Post by: re japi on May 01, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Yeah, I never liked US forums. If you ask something, imidiatelly someone cals you an idiot... And there is no way else to do things, you cant question some methods...
Everyone starts somewhere. We all have much to learn. Thats why its important to share knowledge. And question methods to do stuff.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2019, 01:00:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2019, 01:00:05 PM
Guys,
Both hands up if Ive ruffled anyones feathers here....
Im not suggesting people who ask questions are stupid, or certainly don't want to portray an image that this is a forum where you cant ask questions..
... I was merely being self deprecating.
So sincere apologies
J
Both hands up if Ive ruffled anyones feathers here....
Im not suggesting people who ask questions are stupid, or certainly don't want to portray an image that this is a forum where you cant ask questions..
... I was merely being self deprecating.
So sincere apologies
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Yep deffo got the share the knowledge , there are no stupid questions,, i knew nothing couple of years ago and still got most of it left lol..
Different opinions on solutions to problem is cool what ever works....Both Clive and me suffered on track oil surge at the start of our projects and between us came up with various solutions good and bad nothing on the internet...so dont worry about asking Qs.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 01, 2019, 04:01:48 PM
Post by: Casey on May 01, 2019, 04:01:48 PM
Absolutely no need to apologise Jamie - there are no stupid questions on here. We don't ridicule anyone for asking any question - unless it's Clive, because he knows it all, so shouldn't need to ask ;) :))
Banter, but not ridicule :13:
I purchased TWO (I must be mad!) 36 year old Mazda Rotaries, both potentially heading off to be scrapped, because I knew if I ran into trouble getting them back on the road, there would be help available on friendly forums like this. I'm certainly no technical expert, but love to learn, and help others where I can.
I never use the US forums as I've seen the ridicule on there :(
Banter, but not ridicule :13:
I purchased TWO (I must be mad!) 36 year old Mazda Rotaries, both potentially heading off to be scrapped, because I knew if I ran into trouble getting them back on the road, there would be help available on friendly forums like this. I'm certainly no technical expert, but love to learn, and help others where I can.
I never use the US forums as I've seen the ridicule on there :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 07:15:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 07:15:45 PM
What a day!
Up the Walsh, dithering cold, come home mid afternoon and layed up 2 rear wings in the moulds!
Happy Chappy....
Motorsport weekend with tomorrow, new faces in unfamiliar places :occasion14:
Up the Walsh, dithering cold, come home mid afternoon and layed up 2 rear wings in the moulds!
Happy Chappy....
Motorsport weekend with tomorrow, new faces in unfamiliar places :occasion14:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:52 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:52 PM
Great to meet you today Jamie and Emma!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:52 PM
Great to meet you today Jamie and Emma!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
I stayed abit longer as the R35 gtr went out...1.02...it was insane.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:33:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:33:07 PM
Was that the blue one that was parked near the Camp entrance toilet???
1.02? sheeeeeeet !
1.02? sheeeeeeet !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:39:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:39:37 PM
Today has made me itching to get mine finished....... Emma said, pull ya finger out then!
I said you moan at the hours i put in now ! No pleasing some people
............. long way to go yet........ i need to stop making it look pretty and focus on it being purposeful
I said you moan at the hours i put in now ! No pleasing some people
............. long way to go yet........ i need to stop making it look pretty and focus on it being purposeful
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 08:49:01 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 08:49:01 PM
Yep need a stallion not a show pony...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 08:52:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 08:52:05 PM
What about somewhere in between? Lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 09:35:01 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 09:35:01 PM
Yep ok..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 09:43:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 06, 2019, 09:35:01 PM
Yep ok..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
So....
Laid up the last of the fibreglass tonight on the 2 front wings.......
Suspense was killing me, so we demoulded the offside rear wing.
Jon the father in law showing off the weeks of hard graft.
Day off tomorrow, Saturday morning will be cutting the originals off and grafting on the new wings.....
*fingers crossed*
Laid up the last of the fibreglass tonight on the 2 front wings.......
Suspense was killing me, so we demoulded the offside rear wing.
Jon the father in law showing off the weeks of hard graft.
Day off tomorrow, Saturday morning will be cutting the originals off and grafting on the new wings.....
*fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 09:48:50 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 09:48:50 PM
Result looks very smart!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 10:10:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 10:10:25 PM
Thanks Jon,
Long way to go yet.....
Cutting up the original shell will be crunch time
Long way to go yet.....
Cutting up the original shell will be crunch time
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 10, 2019, 06:05:23 AM
Post by: re japi on May 10, 2019, 06:05:23 AM
Looking good mate, keep it up
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 06:32:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 06:32:20 AM
Thanks Kaveri.
When I was welding and fabricating I missed fibreglass......
God I’m sick of it now lollll
When I was welding and fabricating I missed fibreglass......
God I’m sick of it now lollll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:02:44 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:02:44 AM
Wonderful that you have your father in law helping :great:
I do actually understand what its taking to make all this happen as the car in the picture was designed and built from scratch by myself and a friend of mine in the early 1980's.
The whole car bar the roof was fiberglass, we even made the car longer and never got caught, the extra length was because I had the rear axle 3" back further than stock to make the car more stable. Proud to say I won a lot of races in that car
I do actually understand what its taking to make all this happen as the car in the picture was designed and built from scratch by myself and a friend of mine in the early 1980's.
The whole car bar the roof was fiberglass, we even made the car longer and never got caught, the extra length was because I had the rear axle 3" back further than stock to make the car more stable. Proud to say I won a lot of races in that car
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:31:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:31:12 AM
He does a few days a week, has done since the start of the project.
He tried to restore a couple of mg’s back in the 80s but for various reasons he never had the time or the money to finish them.
He loves it, as he never had the opportunity.
It can be frustrating at times because I know in my head how I want to build it and the process involved, but he just asks a million questions which I don’t mind, but he asks the same the next day bless him.
Wouldn’t change him for the world tho, it’s like help the community. Lol. All joking aside, it comes in handy having a spare pair of hands and he gets to see his daughter more frequently which is good since the big C. And he makes a brill coffee.
He is looking forward to jdm.
He tried to restore a couple of mg’s back in the 80s but for various reasons he never had the time or the money to finish them.
He loves it, as he never had the opportunity.
It can be frustrating at times because I know in my head how I want to build it and the process involved, but he just asks a million questions which I don’t mind, but he asks the same the next day bless him.
Wouldn’t change him for the world tho, it’s like help the community. Lol. All joking aside, it comes in handy having a spare pair of hands and he gets to see his daughter more frequently which is good since the big C. And he makes a brill coffee.
He is looking forward to jdm.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
Best he asks questions.
I taught two apprentices over the years and used to instil in them, "ASK" as its the questions that they don't ask and just plough on that screws things up ::)
I taught two apprentices over the years and used to instil in them, "ASK" as its the questions that they don't ask and just plough on that screws things up ::)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:44:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:44:26 AM
Quote from: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:02:44 AM
Wonderful that you have your father in law helping :great:
I do actually understand what its taking to make all this happen as the car in the picture was designed and built from scratch by myself and a friend of mine in the early 1980's.
The whole car bar the roof was fiberglass, we even made the car longer and never got caught, the extra length was because I had the rear axle 3" back further than stock to make the car more stable. Proud to say I won a lot of races in that car
376 clive??
Without sounding suggestive or ageist, with your racing career, you been around the block a few times lol
The q? don't bother me, but he is forgetful bless him.
Yeah I can screw things up on my own, I don't need him doing the same lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 09:30:16 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 09:30:16 AM
Quote from: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
Best he asks questions.
I taught two apprentices over the years and used to instil in them, "ASK" as its the questions that they don't ask and just plough on that screws things up ::)
If you fancy a bit of "sport"
When I introduce him at JDM you can ask if he is the apprentice? hahaha
He very laid back like your good self
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:44:26 AM
376 clive??
You been around the block a few times lol
You could say that, I started racing cars when I was 16!
376 this was from a formula called National Hot Rods (NHRPA)
The numbering system went national so no two drivers turned up at the same event with the same number.
The first number dictated the promoter you raced for,
Great thing about that racing was, no entry fees, traveling expenses plus proper prize money to go with the trophy's.
A lot of circuit drivers came from this formula / Martin Brundell, Derek Warwick, Rob Collard, Matt Simpson, Colin White to name a few.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
Serious jobs call for serious PPE !!
No turning back now boys !!!!
Good to see that steel sill member was still in one piece when i removed them to be powdercoated last year.
Back to it............
No turning back now boys !!!!
Good to see that steel sill member was still in one piece when i removed them to be powdercoated last year.
Back to it............
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Easy boot access
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 11:18:17 AM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 11:18:17 AM
Ohhh serious now....
Hate cutting fibreglass...smells horrible and goes everywhere...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2019, 12:31:11 PM
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2019, 12:31:11 PM
Wow, I've been away for a week and drop back in to see you (and your apprentice ;)) have made some great progress.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 12:33:11 PM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 12:33:11 PM
How much does she weigh...theres not much steel in the rear?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
Ok offered up the new wing,
dont fit perfect, needs some fettling, but i can work with it. All expansion and contraction has gone on somewhere.
How much does what weigh Jon? no steel in the back apart from the sill member.
............ Chat later guys. off to Wales to buy a new car ! :13: ( good for towing Jon lol )
SooooooBaaaaaaRooooooooo
dont fit perfect, needs some fettling, but i can work with it. All expansion and contraction has gone on somewhere.
How much does what weigh Jon? no steel in the back apart from the sill member.
............ Chat later guys. off to Wales to buy a new car ! :13: ( good for towing Jon lol )
SooooooBaaaaaaRooooooooo
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 01:38:57 PM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 01:38:57 PM
Dugga dugga dugga good luck
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
Sold! to the man with the beard!
Well deposit left anyway.
Should see the rest of his collection
Nissan Skyline R32
Mazda MX5 Mk2.5 I think
Tommi Makkinen (Spell check) Mitsi Evo
2 x Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
and...
Mazda RX7 Bathurst R
Every one white.......
Well deposit left anyway.
Should see the rest of his collection
Nissan Skyline R32
Mazda MX5 Mk2.5 I think
Tommi Makkinen (Spell check) Mitsi Evo
2 x Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
and...
Mazda RX7 Bathurst R
Every one white.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 09:15:06 PM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2019, 09:15:06 PM
Sweet..whens pick up?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 07:10:49 AM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 07:10:49 AM
Um... its Tommi Mäkinen... ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 07:15:31 AM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 07:15:31 AM
Tommi mak drove for Mitsubishi..
Its Jamie Burns or Jamie Mcrae...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 07:17:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 07:17:25 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 11, 2019, 09:15:06 PM
Sweet..whens pick up?
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Next week fingers crossed.
A couple of blemishes (supermarket car park injuries) my local dent doctor could probably sort.
Really nice white pearl, looks great in the sun, some odd tv thing going on in the car, pops out the dash with ignition, all Panasonic stuff, its Japanese sat nav and there like tv aerial stickers at the top of the windscreen n that, it's most odd
I've no idea if I can covert it to work in uk.........
It's so quiet and refined, even with the hammer down, could benefit from a SS cat back, no knocks or rattles from the mechanicals, no creaks from the interior, upholstery is like its from the factory.
Felt quicker than 280 horses but then I was on a single track cliff side road in back of beyond.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 07:21:59 AM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 07:21:59 AM
Radio band is diff in Japan can get an extender but prob just get uk radio there so cheap nowadays...unsure on sat nav...
Gonna be a subaru forum for that me thinks.
Any idea when cambelt done?
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Gonna be a subaru forum for that me thinks.
Any idea when cambelt done?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 08:59:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 08:59:04 AM
Cam belt done at 60k
Currently on 83, no leaks or signs of leaks from rocker cover gaskets
speedo conversion done, dintrinol all the underside...... It's def clean example
Currently on 83, no leaks or signs of leaks from rocker cover gaskets
speedo conversion done, dintrinol all the underside...... It's def clean example
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 09:05:08 AM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 09:05:08 AM
Cool...uk its 45k miles interval on the cambelt on 2.0. When i done mine it came off perfect. Other countrys have longer intervals on identical engines bit bizarre...
Bit of clutch judder on cold mornings normal just needs a few more revs til warm. Has it got a kepad immobilser? If so ive got the instructions for changing to a pin of your choice.
4 pot calipers on front?
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Bit of clutch judder on cold mornings normal just needs a few more revs til warm. Has it got a kepad immobilser? If so ive got the instructions for changing to a pin of your choice.
4 pot calipers on front?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 09:11:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 09:11:17 AM
Nope no keypad thingy,
I checked the car over first before starting, it was definately cold, just key in.
Didn't notice any four pots but then I wasn't looking, he did say he changed the pads n discs on front and it seemed cheap, it was 109 quid or 190 all in, it def started with a 1, I wasn't paying attention.Did say a lot of the parts like that are transferable between uk spec.
Def got the factory fitted bilsteins, they look like forest stage spec struts, 40mm stanchions
I checked the car over first before starting, it was definately cold, just key in.
Didn't notice any four pots but then I wasn't looking, he did say he changed the pads n discs on front and it seemed cheap, it was 109 quid or 190 all in, it def started with a 1, I wasn't paying attention.Did say a lot of the parts like that are transferable between uk spec.
Def got the factory fitted bilsteins, they look like forest stage spec struts, 40mm stanchions
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 12:20:15 PM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 12, 2019, 07:15:31 AMTommi drove Scooby too
Tommi mak drove for Mitsubishi..
Its Jamie Burns or Jamie Mcrae...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 01:17:46 PM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 01:17:46 PM
Yeah but Mcrae actually drove a legacy in rallying...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
Ladies please!
Just want an estate to take stuff to the tip lollllll
Just want an estate to take stuff to the tip lollllll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 01:35:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 01:35:08 PM
Besides jarno doesn't like dolphins lollllllllll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 01:46:18 PM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2019, 01:46:18 PM
Leave the tailgate open..drive there scooby style...wont have to unload.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 05:08:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 05:08:59 PM
Sounds like a plan
unless i lose my load on the dual track lol
unless i lose my load on the dual track lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 05:13:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2019, 05:13:04 PM
In case you were confused about dolphins.....
Jarno posted on FB about a FIAT X19 and facebook didnt tranlate very well.
See below for translation
Jarno posted on FB about a FIAT X19 and facebook didnt tranlate very well.
See below for translation
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2019, 08:44:04 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 13, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 13, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
So...........
Offered up the wing on Saturday.........didnt go well....... didnt like the fancy brackets I bought, but they were for steel panels.
Made some crap brackets at work and literally screwed the new wing on, to the body......feathered the joins down ready to bond it with GRP.
A couple of dodgy cuts, but nothing that cant be cured, just as well Im not trying to weld it on.
Either way up, it fits, its on, more fibreglassing !!!! grrrrrrrrrrr
Offered up the wing on Saturday.........didnt go well....... didnt like the fancy brackets I bought, but they were for steel panels.
Made some crap brackets at work and literally screwed the new wing on, to the body......feathered the joins down ready to bond it with GRP.
A couple of dodgy cuts, but nothing that cant be cured, just as well Im not trying to weld it on.
Either way up, it fits, its on, more fibreglassing !!!! grrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2019, 08:13:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2019, 08:13:55 PM
Well despite the lack of gel coat on the join, it almost looks like it grew there.
Cant do anymore this side of Monday.
Off to Czech Republic in the morning, without getting too graphic, someone has a red hot date with a turkey baster.
If I see any rotaries on my travels ill post them, but ive not seen one in the last 4 trips, its all Skodas and Audis ( apologies for my foul language)
See you on the other side.
:icon_thumleft:
Cant do anymore this side of Monday.
Off to Czech Republic in the morning, without getting too graphic, someone has a red hot date with a turkey baster.
If I see any rotaries on my travels ill post them, but ive not seen one in the last 4 trips, its all Skodas and Audis ( apologies for my foul language)
See you on the other side.
:icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Yep looks good pretty oem looking to the untrained eye.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2019, 10:42:29 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2019, 10:42:29 AM
Got a weeks worth of tidying up, gel coat, flatting back, reinforcing layer on the inside once the wheel is off. Inner arches after. Oh yeah, that X 4
I miss my welder lol
I miss my welder lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2019, 04:08:20 PM
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2019, 04:08:20 PM
Yeah but it looks good!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2019, 08:05:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2019, 08:05:06 AM
Back in Blighty, no rotaries as predicted. :(
Did spend a whole weekend of drinking wheat beer, eating a tonne of pork, sleeping in the day, watching 15 episodes of shooter on Netflix. Been to Brno so many times now I've done all the sights. I use the trip to recharge the batteries and put on weight.
Two days off work now to catch up on shed time.......
Did spend a whole weekend of drinking wheat beer, eating a tonne of pork, sleeping in the day, watching 15 episodes of shooter on Netflix. Been to Brno so many times now I've done all the sights. I use the trip to recharge the batteries and put on weight.
Two days off work now to catch up on shed time.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 08:29:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 08:29:10 AM
Decisions, decisions.......
Im gonna be changing my mind more than Jon at this rate.
I cant find the Mazda Mandarin Orange colour code anywhere
Yesterday I preferred the far left, today I prefer far right, the middle one looks "muddy"
Im gonna be changing my mind more than Jon at this rate.
I cant find the Mazda Mandarin Orange colour code anywhere
Yesterday I preferred the far left, today I prefer far right, the middle one looks "muddy"
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 08:48:21 AM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 08:48:21 AM
Far left my opinion...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on May 25, 2019, 08:48:49 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on May 25, 2019, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 25, 2019, 08:48:21 AMLike wise
Far left my opinion...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Focus ST orange for abit of sparkle...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 09:14:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 09:14:38 AM
Sorry bud, no metallics or pearls.......
Im sticking with solids, easier for me to do at home and its more in the era of the original car.
The far left is Lamborghini Arancio Ymir
The far right is Chrysler Crush
Middle one some VW thingy
Im sticking with solids, easier for me to do at home and its more in the era of the original car.
The far left is Lamborghini Arancio Ymir
The far right is Chrysler Crush
Middle one some VW thingy
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 04:08:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 04:08:59 PM
Cracking on
Offside rear inner arch done.
Couple of gel coat repairs to do.
Chopped the nearside pattern off.
Offside rear inner arch done.
Couple of gel coat repairs to do.
Chopped the nearside pattern off.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
Just had this pop up on facebook!
Ahhh I miss those days...... not necessarily better........but definitely less itchy
Ahhh I miss those days...... not necessarily better........but definitely less itchy
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
Goofing around on CAD during lunch........
Could be a rotor shaped hole template for various bits......
I feel more pattern making and fibreglass ahead lol
Could be a rotor shaped hole template for various bits......
I feel more pattern making and fibreglass ahead lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 29, 2019, 01:32:13 PM
Post by: Casey on May 29, 2019, 01:32:13 PM
;D ;D ;D like it :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 08:02:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2019, 08:02:10 PM
Welp, the gel goat is on the join of the last rear wing........
Keep fannying about with the gel coat on the first one, rather than cracking on and worrying about the aesthethics when its time for shell prep.
Anyhow, progress is progress.
I used to be in disbelief when some of these custom car builders say they can easily put a 1000 hours of prep in before laying colour down.
I can believe it now, and ive not gone anywhere near filler primer...... jeeez louise
Keep fannying about with the gel coat on the first one, rather than cracking on and worrying about the aesthethics when its time for shell prep.
Anyhow, progress is progress.
I used to be in disbelief when some of these custom car builders say they can easily put a 1000 hours of prep in before laying colour down.
I can believe it now, and ive not gone anywhere near filler primer...... jeeez louise
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2019, 06:16:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2019, 06:16:52 PM
Ok both rears fitted, not gonna worry about flatting down gel coat yet. Just get them on!
Fronts have commenced....... cutting the front off was more tricky with the cockpit walls to contend with.
I can get a decent shot of the complexity of the headers now...... still more welding to do on them when the engine comes out.
And knowing what I do now since joining this forum, i'll definately be coating the headers in Zircotec Ceramic stuff.
I even had Bailey helping me today which is completely unheard of .....so Im posting a pic as living proof coz if I told anyone we knew they wouldnt believe me.!
Fronts have commenced....... cutting the front off was more tricky with the cockpit walls to contend with.
I can get a decent shot of the complexity of the headers now...... still more welding to do on them when the engine comes out.
And knowing what I do now since joining this forum, i'll definately be coating the headers in Zircotec Ceramic stuff.
I even had Bailey helping me today which is completely unheard of .....so Im posting a pic as living proof coz if I told anyone we knew they wouldnt believe me.!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 07:46:43 PM
More progress!
Starting to graft the first wing on with GRP, always looks messy at this stage, but the crappy brackets work well in lining the panel up to the car.
Then I decided to cut out the boot floor comprising of the original spare wheel well and exhaust tunnel, all of which is no good for my application.
This is making way for the new exhaust routing but more importantly, gaining the right angle for the diffuser at the right length to exit the car.
The raduised exit of the diffuser will blend into a rear bumper as well making the whole part look cohesive.
Flat aluminium floor from the front splitter to the rear diffuser looks a simple task.
Starting to graft the first wing on with GRP, always looks messy at this stage, but the crappy brackets work well in lining the panel up to the car.
Then I decided to cut out the boot floor comprising of the original spare wheel well and exhaust tunnel, all of which is no good for my application.
This is making way for the new exhaust routing but more importantly, gaining the right angle for the diffuser at the right length to exit the car.
The raduised exit of the diffuser will blend into a rear bumper as well making the whole part look cohesive.
Flat aluminium floor from the front splitter to the rear diffuser looks a simple task.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 07:49:27 PM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 07:49:27 PM
Looks like the resin has effected you...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2019, 07:53:59 PM
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2019, 07:53:59 PM
;D ;D Really liking the last pic :))
Great to see still more progress :13:
Great to see still more progress :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 08:05:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 08:05:24 PM
Well ........ I did say from day 1 that I wasn’t normal lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kev-yorks on April 18, 2019, 08:43:11 AM
How about taking that a stage further and a Britax L78 https://www.beaconsandlightbars.co.uk/Britax-L78-series-Rear-LED-Combination-LightPN-L14.11.12.html
So Kev,
took your advice, and purchased!
Thanks for the heads up, they dont list these on eBay
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 08, 2019, 09:22:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 08, 2019, 09:22:04 AM
Theres something quite satisfying about getting up at stupid oclock on a saturday.........
....... copious amounts of coffee, Moby on the jukebox, sandpaper, GRP, repairs, dust........
..... rain hammering down.
Gotta go to work today to modify the wider Kirkey seat I got for Emma bum ! its like a throne!
Needs some chopping and TIG welding, cant get it in the car.
....... copious amounts of coffee, Moby on the jukebox, sandpaper, GRP, repairs, dust........
..... rain hammering down.
Gotta go to work today to modify the wider Kirkey seat I got for Emma bum ! its like a throne!
Needs some chopping and TIG welding, cant get it in the car.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on June 09, 2019, 02:18:52 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on June 09, 2019, 02:18:52 PM
All being well the shape of the lights work with the finished build............if not blame me I don't mind.
I wish I was up early car playing its up early working on the house extension for me so no Rx's for a good few months yet, I've got the Tesla though so that's fulfilling the adrenaline rush requirement for now.
I wish I was up early car playing its up early working on the house extension for me so no Rx's for a good few months yet, I've got the Tesla though so that's fulfilling the adrenaline rush requirement for now.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 02:33:00 PM
Ah there’s no blame Kev.
Me and the FIL looked at all the lights available, cut cardboard templates of the size n shape and those fitted the best.
Next weekend I’m making the wooden buck to mould the buckets for them to sit it in. It’s all systems go.
I ordered them online and the place is about 12 minutes from my house lol
Me and the FIL looked at all the lights available, cut cardboard templates of the size n shape and those fitted the best.
Next weekend I’m making the wooden buck to mould the buckets for them to sit it in. It’s all systems go.
I ordered them online and the place is about 12 minutes from my house lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on June 09, 2019, 03:08:08 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on June 09, 2019, 03:08:08 PM
You've the patience of a Saint with all the custom fiberglass molding............... well done, its a pleasure to watch the progress.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
LOL I question that myself sometimes..........
I could go watch football, play golf or do summat decent like build a car :icon_thumleft:
I could go watch football, play golf or do summat decent like build a car :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 09, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Glad youre enjoying the build Kev .....
Well positive and productive weekend.
Fitting of the last wing today, got a 2mm twist out the mould, the inner wings will cure that.
Trial fitting of the boot lid since the new rears went on...... got a 5mm gap tapering down to 3mm on the sides.
I put that down to 70's build quality build tolerances, being fibreglass and it being a Lotus lol. Its the same on both sides.
Build up with some gel coat n sand back.
Modded the "throne" for the better half.
Was looking back at the build process yesterday, started the wings with the wooden wheels on 21st Feb, so thats a month a corner!
Patience of an idiot more like Kev,
Well positive and productive weekend.
Fitting of the last wing today, got a 2mm twist out the mould, the inner wings will cure that.
Trial fitting of the boot lid since the new rears went on...... got a 5mm gap tapering down to 3mm on the sides.
I put that down to 70's build quality build tolerances, being fibreglass and it being a Lotus lol. Its the same on both sides.
Build up with some gel coat n sand back.
Modded the "throne" for the better half.
Was looking back at the build process yesterday, started the wings with the wooden wheels on 21st Feb, so thats a month a corner!
Patience of an idiot more like Kev,
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
Those seats look a little hard and uncomfortable ;) ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2019, 07:30:34 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2019, 07:30:34 PM
youll be surprised how comfortable they are, its the day after :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2019, 09:54:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2019, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: Casey on June 12, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
Those seats look a little hard and uncomfortable ;) ;)
They're not too bad actually, you can buy the Kirkey padding but it's almost as expensive as the seats, but as I've modded them, the standard stuff won't fit.
Looks like bespoke padding as well.
Emma comes with hers built in lol shhhhh
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 07:45:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 07:45:22 PM
Well!
End of an era....... sorry its been a boring topic and its not working with the rotors, but today is a huge achievement for me and FIL as weve never done this before.
Ive trowelled the gel coat on the last wing, in readiness for tarting it all up and getting it as smooth as i can before it gets filler primer.
Lots of divets to go round the car and fill in but rather use gel coat than body filler at this stage.
Structurally all the wings are sorted, just cosmetic stuff.
Whats next I hear you ask...........
Well I thought I had finished fibreglassing and was moving on to mechanical stuff, but the rear lights turned up today, so Ill be making the buckets for those so they can be frenched into the bodywork.
Ah well, metal work soon !
End of an era....... sorry its been a boring topic and its not working with the rotors, but today is a huge achievement for me and FIL as weve never done this before.
Ive trowelled the gel coat on the last wing, in readiness for tarting it all up and getting it as smooth as i can before it gets filler primer.
Lots of divets to go round the car and fill in but rather use gel coat than body filler at this stage.
Structurally all the wings are sorted, just cosmetic stuff.
Whats next I hear you ask...........
Well I thought I had finished fibreglassing and was moving on to mechanical stuff, but the rear lights turned up today, so Ill be making the buckets for those so they can be frenched into the bodywork.
Ah well, metal work soon !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
I can see the lotus purist winching at them rear led lights.....you gotta take it to combe lotus day!!! :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
I'd love to turn up to that.....
However I think they would wince more at the fact that the roof, boot lid and doors are the only bits that are as they left Norfolk lol
However I think they would wince more at the fact that the roof, boot lid and doors are the only bits that are as they left Norfolk lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 13, 2019, 08:58:53 PM
Post by: Casey on June 13, 2019, 08:58:53 PM
Really taking shape nicely Jamie, great work :notworthy:
BTW is this a Lotary car? ;D
BTW is this a Lotary car? ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
Lol
Nope Rotus Wankelan
Nope Rotus Wankelan
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 14, 2019, 07:48:55 AM
Post by: re japi on June 14, 2019, 07:48:55 AM
Looks good :sign0098:
Btw, I like this thread, nice to see some doing his car from ground up basically, and doing something different :great:
Btw, I like this thread, nice to see some doing his car from ground up basically, and doing something different :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2019, 08:15:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2019, 08:15:06 AM
Awww fanx princess
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 08:01:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 08:01:05 PM
First tail light bucket off the mould tonight.....
Made a plywood former, shaped, primed, sanded, waxed.
I hammered 2 x cut down panel pins with the spike pointing up.
When I lay the glass over the top it will produce 2 x drill starts in the product, saves marking it out for the mounting holes, and its repeatable for the other side.
More cutting of the shell to graft in the new buckets.
Another productive evening, we like that.
Made a plywood former, shaped, primed, sanded, waxed.
I hammered 2 x cut down panel pins with the spike pointing up.
When I lay the glass over the top it will produce 2 x drill starts in the product, saves marking it out for the mounting holes, and its repeatable for the other side.
More cutting of the shell to graft in the new buckets.
Another productive evening, we like that.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:04:50 PM
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:04:50 PM
Ow, come on, we want to see what they look like on the car :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 09:26:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 09:26:19 PM
Sorry that's as far as I've got, I'll upload more this week when I've made more progress
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2019, 07:56:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2019, 07:56:02 PM
Here ya go Clive....
Not got all the rads blended in on the edges of the buckets, but theyre on.
Im back to fitting the exhaust again............ I need to rethink that too.
Ive learned a lot since joining this forum, and I need to re-route the pipe work near the diff. Ive never been 100% happy.
So I have a question. I have a resonator fitted as youll see on the last pic, but its going to hit the floor and annoy me so that needs relocating too.
Does anyone know if there is an optimum place for a resonator to be positioned in relation to the silencer and the headers? Can it go just before the silencer?
Thanks in advance
Not got all the rads blended in on the edges of the buckets, but theyre on.
Im back to fitting the exhaust again............ I need to rethink that too.
Ive learned a lot since joining this forum, and I need to re-route the pipe work near the diff. Ive never been 100% happy.
So I have a question. I have a resonator fitted as youll see on the last pic, but its going to hit the floor and annoy me so that needs relocating too.
Does anyone know if there is an optimum place for a resonator to be positioned in relation to the silencer and the headers? Can it go just before the silencer?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 04:56:41 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 04:56:41 AM
Looks awesome, good job mate :sign0098:
But one thing comes to mind, heat control. Rotarys generates lots of heat. You have to figure out how to get that heat out of engine bay. Also, under floor, seems a tight fit. Hopefully it wont melt that classfibre...
But one thing comes to mind, heat control. Rotarys generates lots of heat. You have to figure out how to get that heat out of engine bay. Also, under floor, seems a tight fit. Hopefully it wont melt that classfibre...
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 06:56:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 06:56:21 AM
Cheers bud
Zircotec the headers and decat pipe.
Everything else is exhaust wrap and self adhesive ceramic sheet.
Some NACA ducts on the underfloor feeding air into the exhaust tunnel
I don't have many options, this car is tiny. There is zero room.
The only other thing I can do is run the pipe straight out the bonnet and put some flaps on the ends like the vertical stacks on the American trucks lol
Zircotec the headers and decat pipe.
Everything else is exhaust wrap and self adhesive ceramic sheet.
Some NACA ducts on the underfloor feeding air into the exhaust tunnel
I don't have many options, this car is tiny. There is zero room.
The only other thing I can do is run the pipe straight out the bonnet and put some flaps on the ends like the vertical stacks on the American trucks lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 07:18:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 07:18:10 AM
Here ya go jarno.
Check it out
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+custom+cars&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiko8H89fniAhWSmFwKHeXEAhYQ_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=USjPHKUE2drj6M
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/your-guide-to-the-japanese-car-culture-54990_1.jpg
Check it out
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+custom+cars&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiko8H89fniAhWSmFwKHeXEAhYQ_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=USjPHKUE2drj6M
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/your-guide-to-the-japanese-car-culture-54990_1.jpg
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 07:18:10 AMOh crap
Here ya go jarno.
Check it out
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+custom+cars&client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiko8H89fniAhWSmFwKHeXEAhYQ_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=768&bih=928#imgrc=USjPHKUE2drj6M
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/your-guide-to-the-japanese-car-culture-54990_1.jpg
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 07:53:58 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 07:53:58 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 06:56:21 AMOk, I see. Then there should be no problem
Cheers bud
Zircotec the headers and decat pipe.
Everything else is exhaust wrap and self adhesive ceramic sheet.
Some NACA ducts on the underfloor feeding air into the exhaust tunnel
I don't have many options, this car is tiny. There is zero room.
The only other thing I can do is run the pipe straight out the bonnet and put some flaps on the ends like the vertical stacks on the American trucks lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on June 21, 2019, 08:03:18 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on June 21, 2019, 08:03:18 AM
I've only experience with turbo motors, 3 inch systems and quite a bit of overlap so strong exhaust pulses Jamie but on those the resonator seems to work best around 24inch from the downpipe. My default system now tends to be a flexi section right behind the downpipe into the resonator the pics of a larger 1 into 2 resonator system but you'll get the idea.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 08:21:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 08:21:17 AM
OK cheers Kev,
Ill do some "googling" on NA systems too
YOUR lights........ "turned out nice mother"
Ill do some "googling" on NA systems too
YOUR lights........ "turned out nice mother"
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 21, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
Looking at the pictures, I would Zircotec as much as you can afford at least the system from the engine block to under the car, especially where it goes through the body. BTW beautiful pipe work :great:
Not sure if you have done much research on Zircotec but the coating is not to be confused with any other form of coatings which people often do.
I had my manifold, Turbo and down pipe coated. I am going to get the current Turbo coated like the old one was because even after a race you could almost lay your bare hand onto the housing!
Also have a look at Zircotec Zircoflex Form Rigid Formable Heat Shield as this kept my feet nice and cool in my footwell last weekend.
I actually blistered my foot at Brands through my race boot and wish I would have used it sooner.
Not sure if you have done much research on Zircotec but the coating is not to be confused with any other form of coatings which people often do.
I had my manifold, Turbo and down pipe coated. I am going to get the current Turbo coated like the old one was because even after a race you could almost lay your bare hand onto the housing!
Also have a look at Zircotec Zircoflex Form Rigid Formable Heat Shield as this kept my feet nice and cool in my footwell last weekend.
I actually blistered my foot at Brands through my race boot and wish I would have used it sooner.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
Bugger, I forgot to say, I like that pipe work too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 09:08:45 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2019, 09:08:45 AM
Quote from: kev-yorks on June 21, 2019, 08:03:18 AMWhat size down pipe? I have to figure out that resonator thing too. What DB your car has?
I've only experience with turbo motors, 3 inch systems and quite a bit of overlap so strong exhaust pulses Jamie but on those the resonator seems to work best around 24inch from the downpipe. My default system now tends to be a flexi section right behind the downpipe into the resonator the pics of a larger 1 into 2 resonator system but you'll get the idea.
Btw, that turbo looks big
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 01:18:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: clive on June 21, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
Looking at the pictures, I would Zircotec as much as you can afford at least the system from the engine block to under the car, especially where it goes through the body. BTW beautiful pipe work :great:
Not sure if you have done much research on Zircotec but the coating is not to be confused with any other form of coatings which people often do.
I had my manifold, Turbo and down pipe coated. I am going to get the current Turbo coated like the old one was because even after a race you could almost lay your bare hand onto the housing!
Also have a look at Zircotec Zircoflex Form Rigid Formable Heat Shield as this kept my feet nice and cool in my footwell last weekend.
I actually blistered my foot at Brands through my race boot and wish I would have used it sooner.
Yeah, that's the plan. Mainly on the headers because they come upwards on my application, right next to the chassis so that will have the powdercoat melted off it, and the solenoids on the intake manifold, and the OMP stuff is really close, and the steering column, and, and ,and.
The decat pipe was either ceramic coating, or that yellow rigid stuff you shown, formed in a U channel and bolted to the bulkhead with the open end facing upwards and it will protect the belhousing and intake from the exhaust. Then some vents in the bonnet.
There are lots of options really. I could even combine heat protection i.e. exhaust wrap + heat shield. I know on the RE Amemiya 20b Lotus Europa he lined the bay with gold coated panels as that's a good reflector of heat.
Im a long way from all that to be fair, once the shell is painted I will be going belt n braces on the heat side. Im always thinking 3 or 4 steps ahead on all the stuff I do, (easy when youre an over thinker like me lol, screws up my personality tho) .... if I make this what else does it affect? yadda yadda...... where I fall down is my lack of knowledge on rotarys.... that's where you all come in :icon_thumleft:
Thanks for the nod on the pipes, thankfully I don't need to redo the engine bay, just the stuff under the floor and near the diff. I really need to find out about the resonator and relocate that. Im buying some more pipe and bends today. I need to hack some more GRP floor away, but its under the fuel tank.... lol don't panic.
Oh and because of the diffuser, the tailpipe will be side exit, driver side so I can see any flames in the mirror lol.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 01:19:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2019, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 21, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
Bugger, I forgot to say, I like that pipe work too
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Chill Kaveri ! its all good :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:35:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:35:31 PM
Been carving up the floor and exhaust atmo.
Ill show the old system first, its a bit pants........
......in my infinite wisdom I thought Id flatten the pipe into an oval and pass it under the chassis....
well ive gone off that idea.
Ill show the old system first, its a bit pants........
......in my infinite wisdom I thought Id flatten the pipe into an oval and pass it under the chassis....
well ive gone off that idea.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:40:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:40:15 PM
So ive carved all that up, fired the TIG welder and did it properly.....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:41:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 06:41:59 PM
Missed one
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Looks awesome. But your feets are going to burn
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 07:46:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2019, 07:46:31 PM
Lol mine won't, I'll be on the drivers side :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2019, 07:52:40 AM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2019, 07:52:40 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 24, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 24, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
Can anybody recommend a good brand of silencer that's not over the dB limit for trackdays and on the road etc?
My local stainless exhaust place makes them, but I don't think they are repackable.
My local stainless exhaust place makes them, but I don't think they are repackable.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 24, 2019, 08:07:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 24, 2019, 08:07:18 PM
Thats another evening sacrificed to the exhaust Gods.
Sigh
1 cut, 4 burns
Things you do to miss a differential
I feel a boat load of welding coming on
Sigh
1 cut, 4 burns
Things you do to miss a differential
I feel a boat load of welding coming on
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2019, 07:54:14 AM
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2019, 07:54:14 AM
DAMN! :sign0098:
Flight here to build my exhaust asap! :))
Flight here to build my exhaust asap! :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 08:40:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 08:40:10 AM
Would if I could lol
Got no holiday left :(
Got no holiday left :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 09:21:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 09:21:13 AM
Jon,
just phoned Torque Technique (who made your silencer). Lady on the phone said they were no longer trading as of yesterday.
..........sounded like bad news as if "Mick" wasn't in a good way.
just phoned Torque Technique (who made your silencer). Lady on the phone said they were no longer trading as of yesterday.
..........sounded like bad news as if "Mick" wasn't in a good way.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2019, 10:22:17 AM
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2019, 10:22:17 AM
Oh dear was only him and his wife think he was in his sixties, hopefully ok.
I dont know of any other places.
Other than Topgear Stockport who custom make rx7 exhaust rather expensive.
Maybe give Clive a bell.
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I dont know of any other places.
Other than Topgear Stockport who custom make rx7 exhaust rather expensive.
Maybe give Clive a bell.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 10:28:15 AM
Ive tried Tony Law exhausts in Leeds and CSK exhausts, just waiting for an email response.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: kev-yorks on June 25, 2019, 11:39:31 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on June 25, 2019, 11:39:31 AM
I use these guys for exhaust components Jamie https://exhaustpartsuk.com
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
Thanks Kev,
Not heard of these guys before, theyre close to home too.
Not heard of these guys before, theyre close to home too.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 04:05:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 04:05:24 AM
Ahhh insomnia!!
Where have you been lately, ive missed you !
Stuff to design, no point lying in bed all night.
Me n Emma were both lying in bed last night, i lied to her, she lied to me.......ba dum tish !
Where have you been lately, ive missed you !
Stuff to design, no point lying in bed all night.
Me n Emma were both lying in bed last night, i lied to her, she lied to me.......ba dum tish !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 04:06:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 04:06:42 AM
Its when you sit there at 4 am and the air compressor kicks in and scares you to death !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 26, 2019, 01:26:36 PM
Post by: clive on June 26, 2019, 01:26:36 PM
Wow, your Emma is understanding, you have an air compressor in your bedroom, :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Hahaha that's another conversation of a more adult nature and not for this forum
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2019, 07:59:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2019, 07:59:54 PM
Slightly off topic..........
Got my wheels on the leggy refurbed today.....
same day service
dropped the car off at 9am
wheels off, tyres off, chemical strip, curbed rims repaired, baked, powder coat satin black, baked, clear lacquer, baked, tyres on, balanced and refitted.
£210 inc vat for all 4!!
Didnt even get my hands dirty
Happy days
Got my wheels on the leggy refurbed today.....
same day service
dropped the car off at 9am
wheels off, tyres off, chemical strip, curbed rims repaired, baked, powder coat satin black, baked, clear lacquer, baked, tyres on, balanced and refitted.
£210 inc vat for all 4!!
Didnt even get my hands dirty
Happy days
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2019, 02:01:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2019, 02:01:25 PM
Been playing today on CAD. at work......
...... tweaking the floor, diffuser and silencer
Clive, steered away from the Simmons one only from the perspective that its not repackable.
Ive stole the idea of the size tho :icon_thumleft:
...... tweaking the floor, diffuser and silencer
Clive, steered away from the Simmons one only from the perspective that its not repackable.
Ive stole the idea of the size tho :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Nice looks brilliant
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2019, 06:53:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2019, 06:53:37 PM
Im hoping it looks better in the flesh! but fanx
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Speaking of extra wide kirkeys..............lol just finished mounting it, you peering through my shed window?
Severely modified, had to cut 6 " out the overall height because the exhaust tunnel has jacked it up.
And cut 3 of the 4 "wings" off to miss the centre console and so you can get in.
Gonna have to be create with the seat paddling and get the ergonomics right.
Severely modified, had to cut 6 " out the overall height because the exhaust tunnel has jacked it up.
And cut 3 of the 4 "wings" off to miss the centre console and so you can get in.
Gonna have to be create with the seat paddling and get the ergonomics right.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2019, 04:13:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2019, 04:13:27 PM
Been putting stickers on the Leggy today.
A bit of "Faux" carbon fibre..........
A crap attempt to make a scuff plate.
I think I forgot to tell you....... cutting a long story short, I reversed into a lamp post about 2 weeks ago. spent more lime looking in the side mirros to avoid the parked cars and bang! lol
The top surface of the bumper squashed up and cracked the paint....pearl too :(
The main reason for the sticker is to prevent the paint lifting when I send it through the car wash.
Cheaper than a new bumper or a respray
A bit of "Faux" carbon fibre..........
A crap attempt to make a scuff plate.
I think I forgot to tell you....... cutting a long story short, I reversed into a lamp post about 2 weeks ago. spent more lime looking in the side mirros to avoid the parked cars and bang! lol
The top surface of the bumper squashed up and cracked the paint....pearl too :(
The main reason for the sticker is to prevent the paint lifting when I send it through the car wash.
Cheaper than a new bumper or a respray
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2019, 01:44:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2019, 01:44:34 PM
Can anyone help??
I intend on fitting the higher (rpm / Kw ) starter motor.
Can anyone advise what the optimum cranking amps are required from the battery.
I need the most capable battery in the smallest size, lightest available.
Thanks in advance.
J
I intend on fitting the higher (rpm / Kw ) starter motor.
Can anyone advise what the optimum cranking amps are required from the battery.
I need the most capable battery in the smallest size, lightest available.
Thanks in advance.
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 03, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
Post by: Casey on July 03, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
I can't help with the spec on the starter motor, but a popular choice for RX-8 owners (including me) is the Varta E23 battery:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/varta/e23/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPHoBRC3ARIsALfx-_Itmn_aA043LRnCYLwgNmDQaTcA0GfRgXpYlDlt2VN81gbv1_C59T4aAk8GEALw_wcB
CCA for this battery is 630A
Not a bad size for a Lead Acid battery, but obviously not light ;)
If you are into serious money and weight saving, then Clive can undoubtedly advise on a suitable super lightweight racing battery, similar to the on he uses in his race car. which you can pick up with a little finger, as they are so light :)
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/varta/e23/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpPHoBRC3ARIsALfx-_Itmn_aA043LRnCYLwgNmDQaTcA0GfRgXpYlDlt2VN81gbv1_C59T4aAk8GEALw_wcB
CCA for this battery is 630A
Not a bad size for a Lead Acid battery, but obviously not light ;)
If you are into serious money and weight saving, then Clive can undoubtedly advise on a suitable super lightweight racing battery, similar to the on he uses in his race car. which you can pick up with a little finger, as they are so light :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Many thanks casey,
Its good to get an idea on a good typical spec in terms of CCA.
Im now going down a path of the Lithium Ion ones.
Ive seen that Clive runs a Ballistic EVO3......... been on their website and they say they are no longer trading as they cannot compete with chinese manufactured competitors.
A few on eBay America, but postage is daft from the US.
A shop very close to me sells the below, and the supplier is in the same town as the shop.
Yup expensive, but lighness is key with the car. Im not going to have the most powerful engine in the world, so taking on board Colin Chapmans philosophy of added lightness.
Its good to get an idea on a good typical spec in terms of CCA.
Im now going down a path of the Lithium Ion ones.
Ive seen that Clive runs a Ballistic EVO3......... been on their website and they say they are no longer trading as they cannot compete with chinese manufactured competitors.
A few on eBay America, but postage is daft from the US.
A shop very close to me sells the below, and the supplier is in the same town as the shop.
Yup expensive, but lighness is key with the car. Im not going to have the most powerful engine in the world, so taking on board Colin Chapmans philosophy of added lightness.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 03, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Post by: clive on July 03, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
We sold these USA made batterys for around 6 years, shame they got pushed out of the market.
This would be the equivalent to what I have on the Race car
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/273374166095
This would be the equivalent to what I have on the Race car
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/273374166095
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 10:18:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 10:18:14 PM
Thanks Clive,
That was the one I was eyeing up,
Lots of other stuff gong on in the Rotus background atmo
That was the one I was eyeing up,
Lots of other stuff gong on in the Rotus background atmo
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 10:19:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2019, 10:19:47 PM
While I think about it, was it your good self who said koyo rads can be mounted 15 degrees from horizontal?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
Been busy boy!
Glassing the holes back up on the passenger floor to give clearance for the exhaust.
Wooden wheels have been back on to make the inner wheel arch liners.
Made them extra large so I can trim them back to suit the profile of the cars front bumper/nose cone.
Inner arches will have the oil coolers mounted to them with vents into the wheel wells.
Tacked together a new sub frame to mount the new Koyo so it misses all the proposed bodywork.
More glassing ahead to make ducting feeding air in and away from the rad.
At least I smell of welding today and not resin.
Glassing the holes back up on the passenger floor to give clearance for the exhaust.
Wooden wheels have been back on to make the inner wheel arch liners.
Made them extra large so I can trim them back to suit the profile of the cars front bumper/nose cone.
Inner arches will have the oil coolers mounted to them with vents into the wheel wells.
Tacked together a new sub frame to mount the new Koyo so it misses all the proposed bodywork.
More glassing ahead to make ducting feeding air in and away from the rad.
At least I smell of welding today and not resin.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 07, 2019, 08:16:39 AM
Post by: clive on July 07, 2019, 08:16:39 AM
Getting there, really starting to look like the car you must have visualised :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on July 07, 2019, 08:26:17 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on July 07, 2019, 08:26:17 AM
Love the rad bracket. Awesome
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2019, 10:30:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2019, 10:30:47 AM
Well I’ve changed my mind this morning again on the body work for the front end. Lol
The top half of the nose cone will be fixed permanently to the body with an original bumper but stretched wider using 2.
And the lower half with all the ducting and splitter comes away with a join line hidden behind the bumper.
Think of it like a removable jaw lol
The top half of the nose cone will be fixed permanently to the body with an original bumper but stretched wider using 2.
And the lower half with all the ducting and splitter comes away with a join line hidden behind the bumper.
Think of it like a removable jaw lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Vintage car day at Shelsley today
Pics later...... sadly no rotarys
Pics later...... sadly no rotarys
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
Looking fab.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 07:00:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 07:00:04 PM
Ok, who is feeling brave?
Who would like to hazard a guess at what Im making now???
And theyre not ultra lightweight engine mounts hahaha
Who would like to hazard a guess at what Im making now???
And theyre not ultra lightweight engine mounts hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Nope no idea stared long enough at pics...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on July 08, 2019, 07:45:59 PM
Post by: rote8 on July 08, 2019, 07:45:59 PM
Undertray for engine compartment ?????
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: rote8 on July 08, 2019, 07:45:59 PM
Undertray for engine compartment ?????
Evening stranger,
Nope, but your at the right end of the car
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 08, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Post by: Casey on July 08, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Sound or heat insulation :dontknow:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 08, 2019, 08:51:09 PM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2019, 08:51:09 PM
The first pieces of the new monster liquorice allsorts collection, no, OK i'll get my coat
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: clive on July 08, 2019, 08:51:09 PM
The first pieces of the new monster liquorice allsorts collection, no, OK i'll get my coat
Haha I like how your mind works
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Casey on July 08, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Sound or heat insulation :dontknow:
Miles off, I'll post some more pics in the week
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
I stared at the first piccy...thinking gonna struggle cutting that allly chequer with a wood saw....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 06:33:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 06:33:07 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 09, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
I stared at the first piccy...thinking gonna struggle cutting that allly chequer with a wood saw....
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Haha, the neighbors would appreciate the effort of that too at tea time lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 11:06:21 AM
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 11:06:21 AM
Now ive had a thought....
Moulds for front light pods?
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Moulds for front light pods?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 11:15:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 11:15:03 AM
Nope but you are very very close
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 06:56:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 06:56:13 PM
Anymore for anymore?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 07:21:11 PM
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 07:21:11 PM
Emmas new shoes...or brake ducts...
Or oil cooler ducts...mmm latter me thinks.
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Or oil cooler ducts...mmm latter me thinks.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 09:01:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 09:01:52 PM
Lol @ shoes
:sign0098: well done clever clogs, they're the outlet ducts / mounts for the oil coolers.
I know the size I need big end and the small end is 20% of the surface area of the big end to help the air speed up.
I know the length, and the convergence angle........
Easiest way I could think to make them was to make the volumetric shape of the inside where the air travels.
Sand all the rads in, smear it in filler, sand, prime, sand, wax, gel coat, GRP and voila, push the polystyrene out and I have a left and right hand finished product, no moulds required, the inside surface is nice n smooth.
:sign0098: well done clever clogs, they're the outlet ducts / mounts for the oil coolers.
I know the size I need big end and the small end is 20% of the surface area of the big end to help the air speed up.
I know the length, and the convergence angle........
Easiest way I could think to make them was to make the volumetric shape of the inside where the air travels.
Sand all the rads in, smear it in filler, sand, prime, sand, wax, gel coat, GRP and voila, push the polystyrene out and I have a left and right hand finished product, no moulds required, the inside surface is nice n smooth.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 06:30:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 06:30:19 PM
Sorry Guys,
The silence is killing me, I need to post summat even if its trivial.
Started the flat aluminium floor today, first piece in.
There will be a total of 6 aluminum sections for ease of fitment/removal and then the GRP splitter and diffuser.
The bent edges allow an easy join to the side sections, but "hopefully" the bottom edge of the vertical sections will create a vortex.
This should help prevent air rushing underneath from the sides and disrupting a 700mm wide channel of high velocity low pressure air which runs the entire length of the car.
Fingers crossed, but it can all go horribly wrong. Ive never designed and built aero like this. Ive done research on this its kinda thing past few months i need to stop being indecisive and flitting between different theories.
Build it, try it, test it.
If at first you dont succeed, suck some more seed !
The silence is killing me, I need to post summat even if its trivial.
Started the flat aluminium floor today, first piece in.
There will be a total of 6 aluminum sections for ease of fitment/removal and then the GRP splitter and diffuser.
The bent edges allow an easy join to the side sections, but "hopefully" the bottom edge of the vertical sections will create a vortex.
This should help prevent air rushing underneath from the sides and disrupting a 700mm wide channel of high velocity low pressure air which runs the entire length of the car.
Fingers crossed, but it can all go horribly wrong. Ive never designed and built aero like this. Ive done research on this its kinda thing past few months i need to stop being indecisive and flitting between different theories.
Build it, try it, test it.
If at first you dont succeed, suck some more seed !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 12, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Post by: clive on July 12, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Good to see more Rotus action :great:
Just an observation as im no aero expert, but with the flat floor you have built, I think for stability you will a rear diffuser.
Also don't cover your gear box an diff from air flow as I know somebody who did this with his FD and had sensors fitted and found he was frying both units.
Hope this helps.
Just an observation as im no aero expert, but with the flat floor you have built, I think for stability you will a rear diffuser.
Also don't cover your gear box an diff from air flow as I know somebody who did this with his FD and had sensors fitted and found he was frying both units.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
Goes quiet now and then..
Nice floor bud! I did have a nice diffuser on the westy til it fell off lo.
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Nice floor bud! I did have a nice diffuser on the westy til it fell off lo.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 09:48:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 09:48:21 PM
Quote from: clive on July 12, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
Good to see more Rotus action :great:
Just an observation as im no aero expert, but with the flat floor you have built, I think for stability you will a rear diffuser.
Also don't cover your gear box an diff from air flow as I know somebody who did this with his FD and had sensors fitted and found he was frying both units.
Hope this helps.
Evening Clive,
Yes diffuser already designed and is in the list of things to build.
Point taken on the gearbox and diff, NACA ducts are easy to fabricate, so can strategically position some of them.
Does the rx8 box and diff have sensors fitted? ? ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 09:49:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2019, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 12, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
Goes quiet now and then..
Nice floor bud! I did have a nice diffuser on the westy til it fell off lo.
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Thanks Jon,
It's getting there, what do you mean it fell off? ? Lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2019, 10:52:38 PM
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2019, 10:52:38 PM
100 mph...
Wind down the tunnel...turned the back off the car into a parachute blew it off, broke the rivets off. The air going down the tunnel needs an exit path at rear of car. Mind didnt have it.
On the gearbox there is a neutral switch and a reverse switch. The loom is on the end of the engine loom. This also has the rear 02 sensor on it.
Rear 02 and reverse switch if you dont want reverse lights can be done away. Neutral switch can be done away with but may be cause idle to hunt. Easy way is to map an 1100 rpm idle which sorts the hunt and also brings up idle oil pressure which at 850 rpm is naff all...i had about 10 psi of oil pressure @ 100deg C oil temp idling in pits, 1100 rpm good 20psi plus.
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Wind down the tunnel...turned the back off the car into a parachute blew it off, broke the rivets off. The air going down the tunnel needs an exit path at rear of car. Mind didnt have it.
On the gearbox there is a neutral switch and a reverse switch. The loom is on the end of the engine loom. This also has the rear 02 sensor on it.
Rear 02 and reverse switch if you dont want reverse lights can be done away. Neutral switch can be done away with but may be cause idle to hunt. Easy way is to map an 1100 rpm idle which sorts the hunt and also brings up idle oil pressure which at 850 rpm is naff all...i had about 10 psi of oil pressure @ 100deg C oil temp idling in pits, 1100 rpm good 20psi plus.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 06:16:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 06:16:28 AM
Thanks Jon, font of knowledge as always.
Just going back to the diffuser topic.. I'm certainly far from an expert but doing a lot of research lately , the stability from the diffuser is offered by the downforce it produces
When a flat floor transitions into the diffuser, it's as that point where the most downforce is produced. Race car builders will want to start the transition as close to the middle of the car as possible. So a percentage of the downforce will have an effect to the front suspension as well as the rear.
But rear suspension positioning and the droop of the suspension on the inside of the car when turning on a bend will clout the diffuser, so clever car design benefits.
Formula 1 is a great example of popular misconception that if teams build aero such a way, it must be right. Wrong. Teams are faced with different rules and regulations season after season, and what they build is the best they can achieve without breaking the rules, doesn't mean necessarily it's the most optimum design. Us mere home brew car builders only have 2 restrictions, lack of resource and lack of knowledge and experience lol
The transition from the flat floor to the diffuser needs to be smooth with an optimum angle of 7 degrees. The main purpose is to allow high velocity low pressure air to gradually go back to low velocity high pressure air when it meets the air flowing over the top of the car.
If the angle of the diffuser is too steep or the transition is too abrupt you will get air separation which creates turbulence and a partial vacuum. The best way to envisage air separation it go to your kitchen sink, turn on the tap and hold a spoon under the flow of water. The bottom underside rounded end of the spoon needs to be in the flow of the water.
The flow of the water from the tap is the air travelling underneath the car, the rounded bottom of the spoon is the diffuser. Let the tap run and you'll get a constant stream of water in a straight line, then when holding the handle vertically down almost parallel with the water offer up the rounded bottom of the spoon into the stream of water.
The water clings to the contour of the spoon, changing direction of the water as it creates a boundary layer with the spoon. The air under the car does exactly the same. You can change angle in which the rounded bottom is presented in the flow of water and if it gets too steep, the water can't cling to the surface of the spoon and the water goes all crappy and broken up, that's exactly the same as air separation which is bad on cars.
Ideally the air on the underside needs to flow into the air from the top of the car and meet nicely at the rear without creating a vacuum.
Transit van on the m5 doing 100 mph, the air flow from underneath, over the top, down the sides of the van will very rarely get anywhere near the rear van doors, you'll get a vortex behind the van and some air will spill into that void. But by n large that void is a vacuum which actually slows the vehicle and tries to pull the vehicle backwards so the air from the flow can fill that void. Not good.
Lastly, ( as I need to get up n go in the shed, insomnia ruined my night ) another misconception about diffusers........ The vertical strakes that you often see dangling from the diffuser is not to channel air and keep it in a straight line.
Imagine a diffuser with no strakes at all, one big channel of air from under the car flowing nicely out the back. Soon to be disrupted by the turbulent air that's coming around the rear wheels as it spills into the area of the diffuser. It's called tyre squiffing or something like that I can't remember the name, anyway, the turbulent air, enters the diffuser and disrupts your nice air flow and negates all your hard efforts in producing downforce.
Add in some verical strakes, say 2, so the diffuser now effectively has 3 chambers LH, centre and RH. At the bottom edge of each strake, you will get a vortex, it always occurs to the side of the strake but adjacent to the bottom edge. This vortex helps to prevent the turbulent air from the rear tyres entering the next chamber along, so the LH and RH chamber will have a partial disruption from the tyres, leaving clean flowing air in the centre chamber from the underside of the car to create the downforce at the transition from the flat floor to the diffuser.
Add more strakes ( with a trade off of more weight) and you'll have more chambers in the centre of the diffuser that are uninterrupted by turbulent air.
Put a 90 degree bend at the bottom of the strake like an L with the bend pointing from the centre outwards and you can move the vortex closer to the ground without reducing ground clearance which is even more beneficial.
Right I got pins n needles in my left arm from holding my iPad in bed. Getting up.
I'm not an expert on this, and sorry for "ladybird booking" what I've learnt so far.
Just hope all these theories I've learnt work, I really don't want to upset the classic lines of the Rotus by putting a spoiler over the boot.
Just going back to the diffuser topic.. I'm certainly far from an expert but doing a lot of research lately , the stability from the diffuser is offered by the downforce it produces
When a flat floor transitions into the diffuser, it's as that point where the most downforce is produced. Race car builders will want to start the transition as close to the middle of the car as possible. So a percentage of the downforce will have an effect to the front suspension as well as the rear.
But rear suspension positioning and the droop of the suspension on the inside of the car when turning on a bend will clout the diffuser, so clever car design benefits.
Formula 1 is a great example of popular misconception that if teams build aero such a way, it must be right. Wrong. Teams are faced with different rules and regulations season after season, and what they build is the best they can achieve without breaking the rules, doesn't mean necessarily it's the most optimum design. Us mere home brew car builders only have 2 restrictions, lack of resource and lack of knowledge and experience lol
The transition from the flat floor to the diffuser needs to be smooth with an optimum angle of 7 degrees. The main purpose is to allow high velocity low pressure air to gradually go back to low velocity high pressure air when it meets the air flowing over the top of the car.
If the angle of the diffuser is too steep or the transition is too abrupt you will get air separation which creates turbulence and a partial vacuum. The best way to envisage air separation it go to your kitchen sink, turn on the tap and hold a spoon under the flow of water. The bottom underside rounded end of the spoon needs to be in the flow of the water.
The flow of the water from the tap is the air travelling underneath the car, the rounded bottom of the spoon is the diffuser. Let the tap run and you'll get a constant stream of water in a straight line, then when holding the handle vertically down almost parallel with the water offer up the rounded bottom of the spoon into the stream of water.
The water clings to the contour of the spoon, changing direction of the water as it creates a boundary layer with the spoon. The air under the car does exactly the same. You can change angle in which the rounded bottom is presented in the flow of water and if it gets too steep, the water can't cling to the surface of the spoon and the water goes all crappy and broken up, that's exactly the same as air separation which is bad on cars.
Ideally the air on the underside needs to flow into the air from the top of the car and meet nicely at the rear without creating a vacuum.
Transit van on the m5 doing 100 mph, the air flow from underneath, over the top, down the sides of the van will very rarely get anywhere near the rear van doors, you'll get a vortex behind the van and some air will spill into that void. But by n large that void is a vacuum which actually slows the vehicle and tries to pull the vehicle backwards so the air from the flow can fill that void. Not good.
Lastly, ( as I need to get up n go in the shed, insomnia ruined my night ) another misconception about diffusers........ The vertical strakes that you often see dangling from the diffuser is not to channel air and keep it in a straight line.
Imagine a diffuser with no strakes at all, one big channel of air from under the car flowing nicely out the back. Soon to be disrupted by the turbulent air that's coming around the rear wheels as it spills into the area of the diffuser. It's called tyre squiffing or something like that I can't remember the name, anyway, the turbulent air, enters the diffuser and disrupts your nice air flow and negates all your hard efforts in producing downforce.
Add in some verical strakes, say 2, so the diffuser now effectively has 3 chambers LH, centre and RH. At the bottom edge of each strake, you will get a vortex, it always occurs to the side of the strake but adjacent to the bottom edge. This vortex helps to prevent the turbulent air from the rear tyres entering the next chamber along, so the LH and RH chamber will have a partial disruption from the tyres, leaving clean flowing air in the centre chamber from the underside of the car to create the downforce at the transition from the flat floor to the diffuser.
Add more strakes ( with a trade off of more weight) and you'll have more chambers in the centre of the diffuser that are uninterrupted by turbulent air.
Put a 90 degree bend at the bottom of the strake like an L with the bend pointing from the centre outwards and you can move the vortex closer to the ground without reducing ground clearance which is even more beneficial.
Right I got pins n needles in my left arm from holding my iPad in bed. Getting up.
I'm not an expert on this, and sorry for "ladybird booking" what I've learnt so far.
Just hope all these theories I've learnt work, I really don't want to upset the classic lines of the Rotus by putting a spoiler over the boot.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 06:42:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 06:42:44 AM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Whats the car? Volvo 1800 the saint looking?
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Saw one of these in white yesterday and thought about your comment Jon lol
It's a very very pretty car, unlike my Frankenstein secret bastard love child lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 08:01:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 08:01:17 AM
A link to the basics which will explain it better than i ever could.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
And a couple of pics showing my spoon method to support my crappy explanation. You can see the water tracking the back of the spoon and the flow of water changing direction from its original path from the tap.
Excuse my grimey sink, Im in the shed not the house lol.
https://www.buildyourownracecar.com/race-car-aerodynamics-basics-and-design/
And a couple of pics showing my spoon method to support my crappy explanation. You can see the water tracking the back of the spoon and the flow of water changing direction from its original path from the tap.
Excuse my grimey sink, Im in the shed not the house lol.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Thats that job jobbed.
Just some NACA ducts to install
Just some NACA ducts to install
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 13, 2019, 02:47:29 PM
Post by: Casey on July 13, 2019, 02:47:29 PM
I have absolutely no expertise on aero, so admire the research you've been doing and the neat underfloor sections you've produced :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
I could comb my hair in that floor Malcolm................if I had any !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2019, 03:15:24 PM
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2019, 03:15:24 PM
Ill read that later just got up from nights...
Coffee...
The air that enter under bonnet area via rad etc...then travels down transmission tunnel cooling gearbox and exits where? You need a vent at end of tunnel.
Rx8s and Rx7 get hot gearboxes and there open to the air under the car.
I think you need a vent in the back of the car above the flat floor.
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Coffee...
The air that enter under bonnet area via rad etc...then travels down transmission tunnel cooling gearbox and exits where? You need a vent at end of tunnel.
Rx8s and Rx7 get hot gearboxes and there open to the air under the car.
I think you need a vent in the back of the car above the flat floor.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
The radiator will have ducts that will transfer air from the back of the rad and out the bonnet. No warm air should enter the bay from the rad.
There will be some extra ducts in the bonnet to help push any exhaust heat out.
There will also be a duct feeding cool air into the exhaust tunnel and will be vented at the back.
I plan on putting some ducting on the flat floor to cool the gearbox and through the tunnel to the diff.
Should be able to mount a vent at the back of the chassis and direct away from the car.
Cheers Big ears :icon_thumleft:
There will be some extra ducts in the bonnet to help push any exhaust heat out.
There will also be a duct feeding cool air into the exhaust tunnel and will be vented at the back.
I plan on putting some ducting on the flat floor to cool the gearbox and through the tunnel to the diff.
Should be able to mount a vent at the back of the chassis and direct away from the car.
Cheers Big ears :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 04:10:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 13, 2019, 04:10:16 PM
Just had a light bulb moment.
If I redesigned the diffuser to an 80's / 90's formula 1 style diffuser like in the below diagram..........
Where it says "Gearbox" I could route my exhaust out that point and any air that goes down the tunnel that cools the gearbox and the diff can be vented out the back as it passes the silencer.
Sorted! Im happy with that concept
If I redesigned the diffuser to an 80's / 90's formula 1 style diffuser like in the below diagram..........
Where it says "Gearbox" I could route my exhaust out that point and any air that goes down the tunnel that cools the gearbox and the diff can be vented out the back as it passes the silencer.
Sorted! Im happy with that concept
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2019, 04:57:42 PM
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2019, 04:57:42 PM
Yep and no parachute effect..and no gearbox sychro issues when gb oil turns to water when overheating.
Thats what you need.
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Thats what you need.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 04:25:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 04:25:02 PM
Emmas new shoes coming on a treat!
I should touch up the grass while i got the green spray out
I should touch up the grass while i got the green spray out
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 05:26:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 05:26:54 PM
Here ya go Jon,
One rear vent / exhaust exit
One rear vent / exhaust exit
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2019, 08:28:21 PM
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2019, 08:28:21 PM
Yep thats nice.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 01:15:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 01:15:19 PM
Well its all going on today,
Emma is stuck at the AEC at Worcester Hospital having an MRI scan on potential spinal cord trauma.........
......... I've had a phone call off my GP to tell me I've been diagnosed Type 2 diabetic......
I guess there's always someone worse off
Emma is stuck at the AEC at Worcester Hospital having an MRI scan on potential spinal cord trauma.........
......... I've had a phone call off my GP to tell me I've been diagnosed Type 2 diabetic......
I guess there's always someone worse off
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 15, 2019, 04:29:07 PM
Post by: boosted on July 15, 2019, 04:29:07 PM
Blimey mate fingers crossed for Emma. She had a fall or summit?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 06:47:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 06:47:33 PM
She’s gotta stay in overnight, running a bag up now.
I’m no doctor but she’s had a bad back for a while, I think she’s done herself a mischief and the inflammation is pressing against the spinal cord and in turn effecting her nerves.
She’s got numbness and sharp pains in various parts of her body.
She will do anything to get out of pushing the damn hoover round lol
I’ll send your regards on
J
I’m no doctor but she’s had a bad back for a while, I think she’s done herself a mischief and the inflammation is pressing against the spinal cord and in turn effecting her nerves.
She’s got numbness and sharp pains in various parts of her body.
She will do anything to get out of pushing the damn hoover round lol
I’ll send your regards on
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 15, 2019, 08:32:02 PM
Post by: Casey on July 15, 2019, 08:32:02 PM
I'm very sorry to hear this news about both of you. Fingers crossed Emma's issue can be easily sorted with no long term affects.
A T2 diabetes diagnosis is obviously very bad news. My BIL was diagnosed with T2 about a year ago, but went on the NHS programme he was offered and dramatically changed his diet as a result (very low in carbs) and walked several miles most days. He lost ~3 stone (from 13 to 10) and his doctor says he no longer has diabetes. He reckons he will have to stay with his lifestyle changes to keep T2 at bay, else it will return. But, he says he feels so much better and it's motivated him to stick to his current regime, which he's adjusted to and finds quite easy now. He had to buy a whole new set of clothes too, as nothing fitted him any more, having lost ~4" around his waist!
Best wishes to you both at what must be a very stressful time.
A T2 diabetes diagnosis is obviously very bad news. My BIL was diagnosed with T2 about a year ago, but went on the NHS programme he was offered and dramatically changed his diet as a result (very low in carbs) and walked several miles most days. He lost ~3 stone (from 13 to 10) and his doctor says he no longer has diabetes. He reckons he will have to stay with his lifestyle changes to keep T2 at bay, else it will return. But, he says he feels so much better and it's motivated him to stick to his current regime, which he's adjusted to and finds quite easy now. He had to buy a whole new set of clothes too, as nothing fitted him any more, having lost ~4" around his waist!
Best wishes to you both at what must be a very stressful time.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 09:48:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 09:48:04 PM
Thanks Malcom,
Emma’s had a lumbar puncture done.
Ah the t2 don’t bother me, the ironic thing is I started dieting a few weeks back and I’ve gone from 18stone 4 pounds and today I was 16 stone 10 pounds.
I’m aiming for 13.5 ( and I’ll still be heavier than Jon grrr lol ) I’ve changed my eating habits dramatically as I’ve done nothing about exercise.
I was gonna treat myself to a new mountain bike but I went for a job interview the other day and the commute would be stupid, so I’ll see what happens with work, if I stay put I’ll buy one then .
Dig out my old clip on shoes and shorts with a nappy sewn in
Emma’s had a lumbar puncture done.
Ah the t2 don’t bother me, the ironic thing is I started dieting a few weeks back and I’ve gone from 18stone 4 pounds and today I was 16 stone 10 pounds.
I’m aiming for 13.5 ( and I’ll still be heavier than Jon grrr lol ) I’ve changed my eating habits dramatically as I’ve done nothing about exercise.
I was gonna treat myself to a new mountain bike but I went for a job interview the other day and the commute would be stupid, so I’ll see what happens with work, if I stay put I’ll buy one then .
Dig out my old clip on shoes and shorts with a nappy sewn in
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2019, 05:23:44 AM
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2019, 05:23:44 AM
What? Hope She is ok! :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 05:54:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 05:54:26 AM
Yeah me too Jarno,
Shes doesnt have much luck at the mo.
They say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
Shes in the best place.
To look at her she looks like theres nothing wrong, but she cant walk properly, and she cant tell if her bodily functions downstairs are working......
We just need to know whats wrong so we can hopefully fix it....
Fingers crossed today will reveal some answers
Shes doesnt have much luck at the mo.
They say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
Shes in the best place.
To look at her she looks like theres nothing wrong, but she cant walk properly, and she cant tell if her bodily functions downstairs are working......
We just need to know whats wrong so we can hopefully fix it....
Fingers crossed today will reveal some answers
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 09:48:31 AM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 09:48:31 AM
yep fingers crossed mate. she's in the best place.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 09:55:29 AM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 09:55:29 AM
Hey Jamie im down to 13.3kg now ive eaten nothing but salads since i came back from hols....( apart from fish n chips sat night treat). :13:
keep us posted on Emma.
keep us posted on Emma.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 16, 2019, 09:59:16 AM
Post by: Casey on July 16, 2019, 09:59:16 AM
I hope you get some good news about Emma today.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 10:39:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 10:39:32 AM
Lumbar Puncture is clear, no nasty infections in her spinal fluid.
They think she has this........
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/?fbclid=IwAR0k4cDm9Vb0ZRj0M_G5tOyncHr_Djaesa73nppzVkBT6qY_XIGGj77y5Xo
They don't seem too worried as its treatable although it can be life threatening as in some cases the nerves can fail and stop the lungs from working.
MRI scan today and a chat with a neurology specialist.
They think she has this........
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/?fbclid=IwAR0k4cDm9Vb0ZRj0M_G5tOyncHr_Djaesa73nppzVkBT6qY_XIGGj77y5Xo
They don't seem too worried as its treatable although it can be life threatening as in some cases the nerves can fail and stop the lungs from working.
MRI scan today and a chat with a neurology specialist.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 10:44:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 16, 2019, 09:55:29 AM
Hey Jamie im down to 13.3kg now ive eaten nothing but salads since i came back from hols....( apart from fish n chips sat night treat). :13:
keep us posted on Emma.
pffffttttt !!!
I could saw my leg off and I wouldn't come close.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 04:06:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 04:06:50 PM
Well,
Repackable silencer rocked up today.
Nothing like complete overkill to cheer a man up.
To be fair is was being mounted as the first pic, but now ive changed the diffuser design, its needs shortening, but ill do that once the diffuser is finished.
Repackable silencer rocked up today.
Nothing like complete overkill to cheer a man up.
To be fair is was being mounted as the first pic, but now ive changed the diffuser design, its needs shortening, but ill do that once the diffuser is finished.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 07:20:41 PM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2019, 07:20:41 PM
Is she still in mate? My mrs said thats a nasty condition, ideally she should be in hospital so they can monitor it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 09:06:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2019, 09:06:34 PM
Yeah I’m here in hospital now no mri yet, fingers crossed tomorrow
Lots of emergencies today took priority
Lots of emergencies today took priority
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2019, 09:47:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2019, 09:47:11 PM
Day 3 in the big brother house.
Moved to medical assessment unit. Scheduled MRI for 8am tomorrow.
Hopefully she can come home tomorrow, were on holibobs next week :(
Moved to medical assessment unit. Scheduled MRI for 8am tomorrow.
Hopefully she can come home tomorrow, were on holibobs next week :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 17, 2019, 10:52:06 PM
Post by: Casey on July 17, 2019, 10:52:06 PM
Fingers crossed here for some much needed good news tomorrow Jamie.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 18, 2019, 04:29:56 PM
Post by: boosted on July 18, 2019, 04:29:56 PM
Any news on Em mate?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
Jesus, never been on such an emotional roller coaster!!
I’m in the shed, Emma phones at 6pm to say she’s been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis!
I’m a mess, her dad who was with me is a mess and we hot foot it up there.
We’re all going through scenarios and about 8 pm the neurologist turns up.
He is convinced she has transverse myelitis, she has an inflammation in a third of her spine caused by perhaps a virus and her immune system is attacking her nervous system.
She could get it again and it could lead to multiple sclerosis.... but one day at a time.
Next 3 days is iv drip of steroids and because the inflammation is so large 60 mg of steroid tablets and tapering off over the next 3 months,
We’re good for holiday in Wales and Baileys graduation next week and we’re good for Portugal later in the year.
She’s still poorly but it’s better news
I’m in the shed, Emma phones at 6pm to say she’s been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis!
I’m a mess, her dad who was with me is a mess and we hot foot it up there.
We’re all going through scenarios and about 8 pm the neurologist turns up.
He is convinced she has transverse myelitis, she has an inflammation in a third of her spine caused by perhaps a virus and her immune system is attacking her nervous system.
She could get it again and it could lead to multiple sclerosis.... but one day at a time.
Next 3 days is iv drip of steroids and because the inflammation is so large 60 mg of steroid tablets and tapering off over the next 3 months,
We’re good for holiday in Wales and Baileys graduation next week and we’re good for Portugal later in the year.
She’s still poorly but it’s better news
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 04:40:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 04:40:56 AM
Annoyed over the junior doctor diagnosing the possible worst case as was so matter of fact too at the time.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 05:00:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 05:00:02 AM
On a slightly more humorous note to feed my sick humour
Bailey was at the docs yesterday and gotta produce a stool sample?
Just asked me how I would recommend collecting it.
I said you HAVE to hold the glass tube and just ...... aim lolllll
Wonder if he will listen to his ole man ? ?
Bailey was at the docs yesterday and gotta produce a stool sample?
Just asked me how I would recommend collecting it.
I said you HAVE to hold the glass tube and just ...... aim lolllll
Wonder if he will listen to his ole man ? ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:07 PM
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 03:49:07 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 05:36:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 05:36:55 PM
Cheers !
Good health :icon_thumleft:
Good health :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Damn just realised Dom drank corona not sol...doh.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 19, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
Post by: Casey on July 19, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
Well, that's not good news, but some relief in that it's not as bad as the initial diagnosis. I'm so glad you can continue with your plans for the near future. As you say, one day at a time for now.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 08:11:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 19, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Damn just realised Dom drank corona not sol...doh.
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It’s close enough, it’s not hpa that’s all I know lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
:-\
Nope we’ve had better weeks but she can feel her feet more today so the steroids are helping with the inflammation of the spinal cord.
Could last weeks, or months, or a year before she fully recovers. Strange as it sounds I’m looking forward to being nurse next week. If she’s lucky I’ll give her a bed bath .
Quote from: Casey on July 19, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
Well, that's not good news, but some relief in that it's not as bad as the initial diagnosis. I'm so glad you can continue with your plans for the near future. As you say, one day at a time for now.
Nope we’ve had better weeks but she can feel her feet more today so the steroids are helping with the inflammation of the spinal cord.
Could last weeks, or months, or a year before she fully recovers. Strange as it sounds I’m looking forward to being nurse next week. If she’s lucky I’ll give her a bed bath .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
Blimey, lost for words mate. Wishing Emma a speedy recovery.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2019, 07:25:09 AM
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2019, 07:25:09 AM
Yeah, really cant figure out what to say. 
hopefully she gets well soon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 20, 2019, 09:05:59 AM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2019, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 20, 2019, 07:25:09 AM
Yeah, really cant figure out what to say.
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Real sad all this and we like you and many others don't know what to say other than, fingers crossed :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 20, 2019, 09:27:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 20, 2019, 09:27:28 AM
Morning Chaps,
Thanks for the kind words and wishes.
Its not all doom and gloom, Me and Emma have been through the wars the past 3 years, we lost our daughter at 17 weeks pregnant, 3 failed attempts at IVF and now this.
But we have each other and that wont change, I have my mental health issues and she has her physical ones, we help each other and thats whats important.
If the worst happens we adapt....... doesnt mean we should stop. I have a good friend who is paralyzed from the 3 vertabre down after a bad motorbike accident, that was 13 years ago, he still lays slabs, he still wheels himself to the garage, drags himself out the chair into the engine bay and works on his cars.
Dont let anything stop you!
Anyway, on a lighter note, were still making progress, the outlet ducts for the oil coolers are done and will be hopefully mounted today before i go see Emma.
Im not too concerned on the heat from these, as standard these oil coolers are fitted with rubber shrouds, and they dont melt. So im mildly happy.
Thanks guys, and despite everything, keep smiling.
Thanks for the kind words and wishes.
Its not all doom and gloom, Me and Emma have been through the wars the past 3 years, we lost our daughter at 17 weeks pregnant, 3 failed attempts at IVF and now this.
But we have each other and that wont change, I have my mental health issues and she has her physical ones, we help each other and thats whats important.
If the worst happens we adapt....... doesnt mean we should stop. I have a good friend who is paralyzed from the 3 vertabre down after a bad motorbike accident, that was 13 years ago, he still lays slabs, he still wheels himself to the garage, drags himself out the chair into the engine bay and works on his cars.
Dont let anything stop you!
Anyway, on a lighter note, were still making progress, the outlet ducts for the oil coolers are done and will be hopefully mounted today before i go see Emma.
Im not too concerned on the heat from these, as standard these oil coolers are fitted with rubber shrouds, and they dont melt. So im mildly happy.
Thanks guys, and despite everything, keep smiling.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 20, 2019, 10:11:19 AM
Post by: Casey on July 20, 2019, 10:11:19 AM
Glad to see Emma smiling after all this :)
Like others, it's hard to know what to say, other than to pass my best wishes to you both and hope Emma gets better sooner, rather than later.
Nice progress on the Rotus too :great:
Like others, it's hard to know what to say, other than to pass my best wishes to you both and hope Emma gets better sooner, rather than later.
Nice progress on the Rotus too :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2019, 10:38:45 AM
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2019, 10:38:45 AM
Yes mate same sentiments as Casey has said.
On your rad what you doing about fans? Stock fans or aftermarket?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 20, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 20, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
Stock fans and shroud mate as per advice from Captain.
They will have ducts also on the back of the shroud allowing the air exit through 2 holes in the bonnet
They will have ducts also on the back of the shroud allowing the air exit through 2 holes in the bonnet
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2019, 12:52:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2019, 12:52:08 PM
Quick update,
Emma is currently in the discharge lounge waiting for her meds and discharge papers, so should be home this afternoon. :occasion14:
Car wise...........
cooler ducts are grafted on and rad sub frame welded up.
Emma is currently in the discharge lounge waiting for her meds and discharge papers, so should be home this afternoon. :occasion14:
Car wise...........
cooler ducts are grafted on and rad sub frame welded up.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2019, 02:17:26 PM
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2019, 02:17:26 PM
Good to hear Emma is on her way home :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2019, 06:00:49 PM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2019, 06:00:49 PM
Yep good news!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2019, 06:02:01 PM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2019, 06:02:01 PM
I suggest you stick her on the sofa with her favourite box to watch on tele... get her a bell to ring for when she needs something!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2019, 06:24:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2019, 06:24:13 AM
I'm sure she will enjoy being looked after by the grizzly nurse.
I strolled into the discharge lounge yesterday to collect her, I said, hello my little nest of vipers. Much to the disbelief of the other patients.
Grabbed her bags, and she's tottering behind at the speed of smell. I turned around and said, will you hurry up, I was clean shaven when I arrived!
Anyway, Rotus work will be non existent this week, we're gonna be lounging about in the hot tub. Dunno what the wifi is like, or the 4G , so probably see y'all at the rendezvous point on Sunday. Fingers crossed for good weather. :icon_thumleft:
I strolled into the discharge lounge yesterday to collect her, I said, hello my little nest of vipers. Much to the disbelief of the other patients.
Grabbed her bags, and she's tottering behind at the speed of smell. I turned around and said, will you hurry up, I was clean shaven when I arrived!
Anyway, Rotus work will be non existent this week, we're gonna be lounging about in the hot tub. Dunno what the wifi is like, or the 4G , so probably see y'all at the rendezvous point on Sunday. Fingers crossed for good weather. :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
More tubes going in.
Same diameter as the roll cage but lighweight seamed tube.
Strong enough to hang the exhaust and diffuser off, but light enough to buckle in the event of a rear ender without destroying the roll cage.
I save the cage for a "big off"
The MSA blue book mentions not letting the roll cage extend past the suspension anchorage points.
Not sure of the reason but.....yeah.
Same diameter as the roll cage but lighweight seamed tube.
Strong enough to hang the exhaust and diffuser off, but light enough to buckle in the event of a rear ender without destroying the roll cage.
I save the cage for a "big off"
The MSA blue book mentions not letting the roll cage extend past the suspension anchorage points.
Not sure of the reason but.....yeah.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2019, 07:39:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2019, 07:39:52 PM
Made a start on the diffuser.
Mocking it up in steel first, cover it in filler, make a mould, and then product in GRP (nothing new there)
Gotta put a few more pie cut pieces on the tail pipe to joggle it up into the boot area to route the silencer in the "vent" section.
Carved up and remodelled the horrendous original rear bumper to meet the bodywork better and form the mounting part of the diffuser.
"Fired up" my new shrinker / stretcher for the first time since my birthday in June....... im impressed.
Its shrinking 1.5mm nicely and was only supposed to have a limit of 1.2mm on steel.
Mocking it up in steel first, cover it in filler, make a mould, and then product in GRP (nothing new there)
Gotta put a few more pie cut pieces on the tail pipe to joggle it up into the boot area to route the silencer in the "vent" section.
Carved up and remodelled the horrendous original rear bumper to meet the bodywork better and form the mounting part of the diffuser.
"Fired up" my new shrinker / stretcher for the first time since my birthday in June....... im impressed.
Its shrinking 1.5mm nicely and was only supposed to have a limit of 1.2mm on steel.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 03, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 03, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
God its a warm one today !
Been messing about with the last bit of the exhaust.
Lost 10" out of the silencer as it was purchased to sit transversely in the boot with side exit. Now exiting out the vent. Its certainly lighter.
Made a exhaust "saddle" similar to what they use on go karts...... couple of springs over the top. I'll stop the bugger from moving !!!
Cant fit it properly yet, stupid diffuser in the way! Who designed it like that? ? ? ?
Been messing about with the last bit of the exhaust.
Lost 10" out of the silencer as it was purchased to sit transversely in the boot with side exit. Now exiting out the vent. Its certainly lighter.
Made a exhaust "saddle" similar to what they use on go karts...... couple of springs over the top. I'll stop the bugger from moving !!!
Cant fit it properly yet, stupid diffuser in the way! Who designed it like that? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 06, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 06, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
Diffuser buck coming on
tack bend cut repeat
ignore the crossmember, its just for support
And the vent wont be blocked off
tack bend cut repeat
ignore the crossmember, its just for support
And the vent wont be blocked off
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on August 07, 2019, 03:58:50 AM
Post by: re japi on August 07, 2019, 03:58:50 AM
Looks awesome! Good job mate :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 07, 2019, 06:28:29 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 07, 2019, 06:28:29 AM
Thanks Kaveri
Shape wise it's come out a lot better than I originally thought.
CAD only tells you so much, but it's a nice guide. We made some real life alterations from the model, and the roof of the diffuser follows the underside of the rear quarter nicely like as if we planned it lol.
We can see what else we can add around the rear wheels to channel the turbulent air away from the diffuser that's come from down the sides of the car and out of the wheel wells.
It's getting heavy now all that steel. Can't wait to lift it off and get it on a table.
Shape wise it's come out a lot better than I originally thought.
CAD only tells you so much, but it's a nice guide. We made some real life alterations from the model, and the roof of the diffuser follows the underside of the rear quarter nicely like as if we planned it lol.
We can see what else we can add around the rear wheels to channel the turbulent air away from the diffuser that's come from down the sides of the car and out of the wheel wells.
It's getting heavy now all that steel. Can't wait to lift it off and get it on a table.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:29:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:29:46 AM
Terrible night on the car!
Everything I touched turned to dog turd! grrrrr.
Gonna make a jig today and chuck the diffuser at it. Its not working building it on the car, bits move from welding, crap floating in mid air and hoping for the best.
I will not be beaten, I shall have my revenge on you.....mwhahaha
Everything I touched turned to dog turd! grrrrr.
Gonna make a jig today and chuck the diffuser at it. Its not working building it on the car, bits move from welding, crap floating in mid air and hoping for the best.
I will not be beaten, I shall have my revenge on you.....mwhahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 08:00:32 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 08:00:32 PM
The guy from Torque Technique died mate...i found out today.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:03:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:03:24 PM
:( :( :(
I had a phone call today to say the mother of my ex wife (who I still got on well with) died this morning while on holiday in Tenerife.
No warning, no illness, nothing. Big shock. Bailey is very subdued.
Only went to her husbands funeral earlier this year.
It's all going on mate
I had a phone call today to say the mother of my ex wife (who I still got on well with) died this morning while on holiday in Tenerife.
No warning, no illness, nothing. Big shock. Bailey is very subdued.
Only went to her husbands funeral earlier this year.
It's all going on mate
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2019, 02:36:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2019, 02:36:24 PM
Sad news.............
I knew this day would come........ the Rotus is up for sale!
Joking!!!!
Nope, I made a right hash of the diffuser pattern. Too much weight, panels under tension, stuff moving, nothing straight.
Well when I say its a hash, its not as accurate as Id like, so its in the scrap pile for the gypos...... the steel, welding gas, wire was all free.
Just dont like wasting time.......... so its back to spending money and glueing polystyrene slabs together and carving out the shape.
I guess Ive got the dimensions from the previous one to replicate.
Oh well................... could be worse.
I knew this day would come........ the Rotus is up for sale!
Joking!!!!
Nope, I made a right hash of the diffuser pattern. Too much weight, panels under tension, stuff moving, nothing straight.
Well when I say its a hash, its not as accurate as Id like, so its in the scrap pile for the gypos...... the steel, welding gas, wire was all free.
Just dont like wasting time.......... so its back to spending money and glueing polystyrene slabs together and carving out the shape.
I guess Ive got the dimensions from the previous one to replicate.
Oh well................... could be worse.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 11, 2019, 10:45:57 AM
Post by: clive on August 11, 2019, 10:45:57 AM
Would the metal diffuser not clean up enough to get a mould off it.
I once made a mould off the type of thing you are showing for a bonnet and back end of a V8 Sprint car.
Another little money maker along the way, NOT !
p.s like the paper weight.
I once made a mould off the type of thing you are showing for a bonnet and back end of a V8 Sprint car.
Another little money maker along the way, NOT !
p.s like the paper weight.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 11, 2019, 12:42:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 11, 2019, 12:42:57 PM
Hi Clive,
That was the intention with the metal one, it was a pattern to take a mould off, but it wasn’t to my standard, things moving from cooling contraction on the tacks. I wasn’t happy with it so it would bug me if it wasn’t right.
I’ll just carve it out of polystyrene and lay up some grp for a mould. It’s not a major setback.
Yeah an old motorbike engine always comes in handy.
That was the intention with the metal one, it was a pattern to take a mould off, but it wasn’t to my standard, things moving from cooling contraction on the tacks. I wasn’t happy with it so it would bug me if it wasn’t right.
I’ll just carve it out of polystyrene and lay up some grp for a mould. It’s not a major setback.
Yeah an old motorbike engine always comes in handy.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 11, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 11, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
Roughed out............. time for some clag !
Id still be straightening the steel one by now.
Id still be straightening the steel one by now.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 01:19:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 01:19:03 PM
So....... Maybe a question for someone who has driven an 8 in "anger" round a track..... Clive, Malcolm, Jon, cant think of anyone else....but please pitch in.
You take all the mechanicals off an RX8 and you graft them onto a car that will be half the weight, lets say from 1400Kgs down to 700 -750 Kgs
Ignoring the lack of ABS, fitting of bias pedal box, master cylinder bore sizes...... Also ignoring the unsprung weight factor
Do you think the stock discs and calipers from the RX8 will be man enough to haul up the Rotus?? Or invest in upgrade regardless? Maybe its a suck it n see......
You take all the mechanicals off an RX8 and you graft them onto a car that will be half the weight, lets say from 1400Kgs down to 700 -750 Kgs
Ignoring the lack of ABS, fitting of bias pedal box, master cylinder bore sizes...... Also ignoring the unsprung weight factor
Do you think the stock discs and calipers from the RX8 will be man enough to haul up the Rotus?? Or invest in upgrade regardless? Maybe its a suck it n see......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
Because you are stopping so little weight compared to stock, just make sure the discs are in good condition and fit a decent set of pads.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
Thanks Clive,
That's good to hear. In addition to this I purchased some 17" inch steels to keep the car look more "period" (better not make the diffuser out of carbon fibre then lol )
The 17" steels fit over the stock set up quite nicely with ample clearance. Maybe because the wall of the steels are thinner than the alloy wheels
I was concerned bigger calipers would hinder that.
I remember my old Mk1 escort with 2.8i Capri bilsteins converted to coil overs fitted with Austin Princess 4 pot calipers of all things.
I had to relieve the calipers with an angle grinder to get the 5.5J mexico steels to fit....... not an ideal situation
That's good to hear. In addition to this I purchased some 17" inch steels to keep the car look more "period" (better not make the diffuser out of carbon fibre then lol )
The 17" steels fit over the stock set up quite nicely with ample clearance. Maybe because the wall of the steels are thinner than the alloy wheels
I was concerned bigger calipers would hinder that.
I remember my old Mk1 escort with 2.8i Capri bilsteins converted to coil overs fitted with Austin Princess 4 pot calipers of all things.
I had to relieve the calipers with an angle grinder to get the 5.5J mexico steels to fit....... not an ideal situation
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 03:42:27 PM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 03:42:27 PM
"Austin Princess 4 pot calipers" Wow, there's a blast from the past. Blimey, how old did you say you was :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
cough 43 cough
They bolt directly on to capri struts with 257mm vented discs lol
Theres a guy in our town who still has his princess, bought it when it was 12 months old, I saw it yesterday actually.
Hearing aid beige with a brown vinyl roof
Im going to assume its an auto because I know the owner has a prosthetic arm.....
It still looks in good nick for a piece of Leyland crap lol
They bolt directly on to capri struts with 257mm vented discs lol
Theres a guy in our town who still has his princess, bought it when it was 12 months old, I saw it yesterday actually.
Hearing aid beige with a brown vinyl roof
Im going to assume its an auto because I know the owner has a prosthetic arm.....
It still looks in good nick for a piece of Leyland crap lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 04:09:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 04:09:44 PM
Dammit Google Maps let me down
The princess lives on the highlighted drive, but the stills go either side of the drive and I cant get a nosey..... lol
The princess lives on the highlighted drive, but the stills go either side of the drive and I cant get a nosey..... lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 05:15:56 PM
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 05:15:56 PM
I reckon good stock discs would be enough. However, I would be carefull with pads, too hard ones might crab, well really too hard...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2019, 10:32:46 PM
I agree, stock disks and calipers on the 8 are very capable on track. As Jarno said, you will need to experiment with getting the right pad, but the lighter mass should mean less stress and heat. Could mean lower spec, =cheaper, pads may be best suited.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 03:22:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 03:22:09 AM
Thanks guys,
I think new discs all round are a must as part of the final build......... To put the old discs on after all this effort would be like hanging a chandelier in a haunted house.
Service the calipers, lick of paint and some of those hawk fast road pads from RBE.......
........god there's so much to do......
Most of the stuff I've worked on so far I can't buy off the shelf, so it's make it.
I need to turn a corner on it pretty soon, it's 2 years this Boxing Day
I think new discs all round are a must as part of the final build......... To put the old discs on after all this effort would be like hanging a chandelier in a haunted house.
Service the calipers, lick of paint and some of those hawk fast road pads from RBE.......
........god there's so much to do......
Most of the stuff I've worked on so far I can't buy off the shelf, so it's make it.
I need to turn a corner on it pretty soon, it's 2 years this Boxing Day
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 14, 2019, 08:27:04 PM
Post by: boosted on August 14, 2019, 08:27:04 PM
You gonna run the rx8 servo?
Only thing id add is get new slider pins for the caliper carriers as part of build up.
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Only thing id add is get new slider pins for the caliper carriers as part of build up.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 08:38:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 14, 2019, 08:27:04 PM
You gonna run the rx8 servo?
Only thing id add is get new slider pins for the caliper carriers as part of build up.
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Nah no servo, floor mounted, bias pedal box, master cylinders pointing back into the cabin due to space constraints.
Ran the escort with no servo and it was fine under foot.
Don't suppose you know if slider pins come with a rebuild kit??
Was gonna replace the seals and dust boot
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 16, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: boosted on August 16, 2019, 07:22:00 PM
Jamie ..? Quiet today mate....all ok?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 16, 2019, 08:26:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 16, 2019, 08:26:14 PM
Yes Jon, sorry
Covering general manager again at work so stressed to defcon 9 working with idiots......
.... Got a weekend ahead building a bespoke shed for a family member...
Rotus build is slow atmo. Made a new bumper , diffuser design been improved and now on mark 3
Thanks for asking.....all is ok bud
Covering general manager again at work so stressed to defcon 9 working with idiots......
.... Got a weekend ahead building a bespoke shed for a family member...
Rotus build is slow atmo. Made a new bumper , diffuser design been improved and now on mark 3
Thanks for asking.....all is ok bud
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 16, 2019, 08:28:59 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 16, 2019, 08:28:59 PM
If you want to save some unsprung weight put mx5 nc brakes /discs on. Straight fit.
Front are smaller diameter and rears are single not vented
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Front are smaller diameter and rears are single not vented
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 16, 2019, 08:34:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 16, 2019, 08:34:55 PM
:icon_thumleft:
Thanks Paul
Thanks Paul
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 16, 2019, 09:43:31 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 16, 2019, 09:43:31 PM
Plenty of stopping power given the weight of the mx5. Rotus should be fine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
So little update............
...... still busy making the diffuser pattern, lots of body filler, sanding, usual stuff.
....finished the rear bumper pattern which will be moulded in lightweight GRP and not integral with the diffuser. Ill explain later when I post pics........... but gurney flaps are involved! ;D ;D
Anyway, slightly diff topic......... cant find the paint code for mandarin orange, so for the ease of touching up as im bound to have a bang or scrape while im learning to drive again (track style not road style) ive decided on a standardised colour that anyone can obtain.
Introducing ............ RAL 2004 known as Reinorange in Deutschland or Pure Orange back in blighty.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ral+2004&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG4dPywJbkAhX-UxUIHS8PAewQ_AUIESgB&biw=1536&bih=740#imgrc=_HHDMKePPuenKM:&spf=1566477893096
...... still busy making the diffuser pattern, lots of body filler, sanding, usual stuff.
....finished the rear bumper pattern which will be moulded in lightweight GRP and not integral with the diffuser. Ill explain later when I post pics........... but gurney flaps are involved! ;D ;D
Anyway, slightly diff topic......... cant find the paint code for mandarin orange, so for the ease of touching up as im bound to have a bang or scrape while im learning to drive again (track style not road style) ive decided on a standardised colour that anyone can obtain.
Introducing ............ RAL 2004 known as Reinorange in Deutschland or Pure Orange back in blighty.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ral+2004&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG4dPywJbkAhX-UxUIHS8PAewQ_AUIESgB&biw=1536&bih=740#imgrc=_HHDMKePPuenKM:&spf=1566477893096
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 10:38:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 10:38:41 AM
Ok so just for reference ( possible power plant for next project shhhh )
How available / sought after are pre renesis naturally aspirated engines??
Maybe from the fc or earlier ......
How available / sought after are pre renesis naturally aspirated engines??
Maybe from the fc or earlier ......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 11:04:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 11:04:13 AM
In answer to my own question they must be rare, the price difference between renesis and older versions..... jeeez
It’s only from an appearance point of view. If I can get the renesis to run without all the added flaps solenoids sensors etc and go back to basics
It’s only from an appearance point of view. If I can get the renesis to run without all the added flaps solenoids sensors etc and go back to basics
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 11:19:55 AM
You'll find even getting hold of a Rx7 engine a bit tricky. Best place is forums or the likes of specialist companies like Haywards rotary or colum (garage reg) in Brum
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 11:51:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 11:51:41 AM
I wish it was as simple as chucking a set of throttle bodies or carbs on a renesis lolll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
There's a manifold you can buy to fit throttle bodies. No idea how to control the fuelling.
I wouldn't get to worried about the rx8 air control bits.
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I wouldn't get to worried about the rx8 air control bits.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 12:19:40 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 24, 2019, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 11:04:13 AMFit the plastic cover over the engine? Lol
In answer to my own question they must be rare, the price difference between renesis and older versions..... jeeez
It’s only from an appearance point of view. If I can get the renesis to run without all the added flaps solenoids sensors etc and go back to basics
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 12:22:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 12:22:51 PM
Make it even taller ? Lol
Be nice if I was clever enough to design and build a new intake manifold like on that engine Jim mederer built like that post Clive put on the other day
Be nice if I was clever enough to design and build a new intake manifold like on that engine Jim mederer built like that post Clive put on the other day
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 04:22:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 04:22:27 PM
Bored out of my mind.........
...............waiting for glue to dry ... literally
Did some tech specs to pass the time.
The power to weight ratio is a calculation from the anticipated associated figures
...............waiting for glue to dry ... literally
Did some tech specs to pass the time.
The power to weight ratio is a calculation from the anticipated associated figures
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2019, 07:11:36 PM
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2019, 07:11:36 PM
Mmmm i think the 260bhp might be a bit optimistic.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 07:25:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2019, 07:25:24 PM
How much will a bridge port add?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2019, 09:53:20 AM
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2019, 09:53:20 AM
I think youll be circa 200bhp at wheel mate with a bridge.
Std 231s dyno at 175...
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Std 231s dyno at 175...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 25, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 25, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
Ah I was just referring to engine output with a load of mods.
I wouldnt have a foggiest on wheel horsepower untill i get it set up on the rollers.
Guy on you tube got a 8 with full bridge port at 214 at the wheels.
But we know how much rollers/dynos can vary between diff places.
I wouldnt have a foggiest on wheel horsepower untill i get it set up on the rollers.
Guy on you tube got a 8 with full bridge port at 214 at the wheels.
But we know how much rollers/dynos can vary between diff places.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 25, 2019, 10:12:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 25, 2019, 10:12:35 AM
Theres plenty of other stuff I can do to make the most out of quicker acceleration with whatever engine hp it pops out.........
Rip it all out and put it in a westy? lol
Rip it all out and put it in a westy? lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 07:07:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 07:07:34 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX8-Crown-Wheel-and-Pinion-Diff-Gears-5-1-5-3-or-5-8/133016425379?hash=item1ef86593a3:g:YasAAMXQuTNTM1Cu
Will the above take things stupidly in the wrong direction? I dont mean backwards lol
Will the above take things stupidly in the wrong direction? I dont mean backwards lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:36:42 AM
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:36:42 AM
Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:37:42 AM
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:37:42 AM
Clives got cwps online no need togo to oz.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 26, 2019, 09:40:23 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 26, 2019, 09:40:23 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:36:42 AMIt does completely switch it off.
Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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Tested that thoroughly.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:51:48 AM
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:51:48 AM
Maybe switches off traction control completely but how do you know if its limited engine power atall.
Cars with disabled traction still yield low numbers on dynos.
And Clives car being an oddball with twice the standard power he has had all sorts of issues with the rear brakes and afrs going funky when these systems were active...
All the electronic aids are gone now and a pip map no more engine blow ups...
I dont know is the answer but bum dyno on an 8 is better than a real dyno.
Always meant to dyno the westy.....
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Cars with disabled traction still yield low numbers on dynos.
And Clives car being an oddball with twice the standard power he has had all sorts of issues with the rear brakes and afrs going funky when these systems were active...
All the electronic aids are gone now and a pip map no more engine blow ups...
I dont know is the answer but bum dyno on an 8 is better than a real dyno.
Always meant to dyno the westy.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 26, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 26, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
I've done a fair bit of playing with bmw ms43/2 ecu's and the abs/dsc unit is practically identical to the mazda rx8 unit.
All the dsc/abs unit does its send a signal to the ecu to limit torque and power. If this dsc system is missing or switched off (hence the dtc) the ecu remains producing full power.
A fail safe on the bmw ecu if the abs signal is missing, is to put the ecu into limp mode (5k max revs) I remove this when I map ecu's.
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All the dsc/abs unit does its send a signal to the ecu to limit torque and power. If this dsc system is missing or switched off (hence the dtc) the ecu remains producing full power.
A fail safe on the bmw ecu if the abs signal is missing, is to put the ecu into limp mode (5k max revs) I remove this when I map ecu's.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 26, 2019, 09:36:42 AM
Hi mate working weekend for me so v busy at work. Right here we go.
231 and 192s do not dyno at there published figures but do go up the road and bum dyno suggests its accurate and head to heads with similiar powered cars.
Some reasons are the stability control system senses the front wheels are not turning and rains in the power...
So bridgeported de catted modded cars make 200 whp standard cars are making 170whp on rolling roads.
The traction control system can be turned off but its never really off still has some control.
People say that if you press and hold button it completely switches off but im not so sure as generates a fault in system. That resets on cycling off power.
Westy runs a street port...with 231...at 4.1 final drive...at 560kg...its rapid acceleration in 1 2 3 4 then ok in 5 and dull in 6th.
I think your gonna be fine with the standard 4.4. But if not swap out later on...
The converted mx5 i drove was a 5.? Still wasnt as quick as Westy...but on ohlins handled sweet. But power to weight is your friend.
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Cheers Jon,
Im in a bit of a quandry.............. Its all about budget and ease of swapping bits.......
... yeah I probably will be fine with 4.44 diff and run my 5 speed for a bit of added lightness, but the car is built for the 6 speed, so I can pop that back on without any dramas of cutting chassis rails off etc.
I'd love to buy a brand new 4.77 cwp off Clive, but then I need to budget a diff rebuild.
Ive just located an R3 diff complete for 375 quid collected with 56k miles on it, at that price I'd take a punt.
Then I have a "plug n play" with diff swaps for different locations etc. for the sake of a few bolts
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on August 26, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
I've done a fair bit of playing with bmw ms43/2 ecu's and the abs/dsc unit is practically identical to the mazda rx8 unit.
All the dsc/abs unit does its send a signal to the ecu to limit torque and power. If this dsc system is missing or switched off (hence the dtc) the ecu remains producing full power.
A fail safe on the bmw ecu if the abs signal is missing, is to put the ecu into limp mode (5k max revs) I remove this when I map ecu's.
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I’m running no abs or dsc, removed the sensors completely and the standard braking system, due to the bias pedal box. I’m hoping the adaptronic Ecu will let me dial stuff like that out
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 02:41:06 PM
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2019, 02:41:06 PM
6 speed....for na...nice close gears.
Clive with mega hp then stronger 5 speed as his Torque compensates for the longer gearing...i love the 6 speed crunches too...lol.
Right back to the civic....VTEC just kick in yo!!!! Vtec like bridgeport!!!! Happy with my mornings work...bodged the exhaust...all wheels off...deceased a slider pin....spanked in down the trading est....got a bit of understeer... not much in it compared to the colt lol. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/b9fa3959a0d7e998017a692291e0412b.jpg)
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Clive with mega hp then stronger 5 speed as his Torque compensates for the longer gearing...i love the 6 speed crunches too...lol.
Right back to the civic....VTEC just kick in yo!!!! Vtec like bridgeport!!!! Happy with my mornings work...bodged the exhaust...all wheels off...deceased a slider pin....spanked in down the trading est....got a bit of understeer... not much in it compared to the colt lol. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/b9fa3959a0d7e998017a692291e0412b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 04:40:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 04:40:54 PM
TORRETTO !!!!
I owe you 10 sec car !
I owe you 10 sec car !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 06:12:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2019, 06:12:45 PM
Finally!!
16 days since I stuck the polystyrene slabs together. Ive got the pattern finished!
Apart from last weekend its been non stop. 12 hours today on it.. Shattered.com
Got the treacle primer on.
This has to be one of the most technically challenging jobs, seriously. Theres datums everywhere, measurements after measurments getting the right curvature upwards and outwards.
Try and get a mould off it before the weekend.
Im gonna have to DA the lawn before I can mow it :))
16 days since I stuck the polystyrene slabs together. Ive got the pattern finished!
Apart from last weekend its been non stop. 12 hours today on it.. Shattered.com
Got the treacle primer on.
This has to be one of the most technically challenging jobs, seriously. Theres datums everywhere, measurements after measurments getting the right curvature upwards and outwards.
Try and get a mould off it before the weekend.
Im gonna have to DA the lawn before I can mow it :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2019, 11:42:28 AM
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2019, 11:42:28 AM
That's amazing Jamie - looks like a real work of art :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 11:53:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 11:53:37 AM
Amazing? maybe not...
time consuming. too much..
Lets see how well the finished product comes out and if it fits the car.
time consuming. too much..
Lets see how well the finished product comes out and if it fits the car.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 27, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 27, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
Ala, formula 1, Yep should able to drive upside down on the ceiling with that one ;).
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 01:28:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 01:28:39 PM
hahaha
Im stepping into the unknown, im gonna have to run it and then take it off to see what difference it actually makes.
There's an important design feature that isn't on there yet, but will be added before the mould is made.
There's potentially another 4 parts to make yet to complete the diffuser, but I've not got that far yet.
One step at a time lol
Im stepping into the unknown, im gonna have to run it and then take it off to see what difference it actually makes.
There's an important design feature that isn't on there yet, but will be added before the mould is made.
There's potentially another 4 parts to make yet to complete the diffuser, but I've not got that far yet.
One step at a time lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
So the important feature is............
In homage to the fog light on the back of the RX8........... there will be a rotor shaped hole for the exhaust pipe to pop out of.
I didnt like it with the point poking down in the conventional sense as per the little cut outs in the headrests etc. but in the grnd scheme of things a "Doritio" on my car, shows a bit of what under the bonnet.
In homage to the fog light on the back of the RX8........... there will be a rotor shaped hole for the exhaust pipe to pop out of.
I didnt like it with the point poking down in the conventional sense as per the little cut outs in the headrests etc. but in the grnd scheme of things a "Doritio" on my car, shows a bit of what under the bonnet.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Very smart mate.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 08:20:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2019, 08:20:24 PM
Ta bud
Every time I look at it I think the back end looks like someone put an iron on the back lol
Every time I look at it I think the back end looks like someone put an iron on the back lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 05:06:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 05:06:45 AM
Insomnia beat me (again) .........
.........4.30am ??? time to get up and make a black GRP rear bumper !
Thats what "normal" people do right???
.........4.30am ??? time to get up and make a black GRP rear bumper !
Thats what "normal" people do right???
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 28, 2019, 05:22:09 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 28, 2019, 05:22:09 AM
:D nutter
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 05:30:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 05:30:38 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on August 28, 2019, 05:22:09 AM
:D nutter
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lol
The doctors said the same.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
4.30am ??? :sleepy: :sleepy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 10:25:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 10:25:46 AM
I wish it was zzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 11:00:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2019, 11:00:17 PM
So paul,
you are right, i am a nutter.......... having been up since 4.30 making parts, ive literally just walked in.
I cant resist a bargain. Finished work at 5pm and just got back from Melton Mowbray, detour at Loughborough.
Keeping my options open for the future.
Going abroad in less than 7 days, but got my priorities right, R3 Diff and he threw in the drive shafts "because they differ in length by 2mm!" WTF?
but for £375 all in, I wasnt letting that one go.
you are right, i am a nutter.......... having been up since 4.30 making parts, ive literally just walked in.
I cant resist a bargain. Finished work at 5pm and just got back from Melton Mowbray, detour at Loughborough.
Keeping my options open for the future.
Going abroad in less than 7 days, but got my priorities right, R3 Diff and he threw in the drive shafts "because they differ in length by 2mm!" WTF?
but for £375 all in, I wasnt letting that one go.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 29, 2019, 05:31:01 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 29, 2019, 05:31:01 AM
Sweet.
Why do people take short cuts. Just prise the good damn cv cups out. Lol. I'd check the needle rollers haven't come apart on the end of the driveshafts
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Why do people take short cuts. Just prise the good damn cv cups out. Lol. I'd check the needle rollers haven't come apart on the end of the driveshafts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 06:06:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 06:06:23 AM
No idea,
A big crow bar
A hammer ( to feel manly)
Call it a few p's and q's
and it comes out.
A big crow bar
A hammer ( to feel manly)
Call it a few p's and q's
and it comes out.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 08:03:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 08:03:23 PM
Another productive evening!
Fitted the new bumper that I made.
Its only for show, has no structural integrity. Save the car getting scratched but thats it, weighs as much as a bag of paperclips.
Last of the primer on the pattern, big race to get a mould off it before the weekend is over.
Shame it wasnt productive enough to mow the lawn.
Not strictly my fault, bought one of these Makita Li-Ion 18V strimmers..... Thought ah go on, ill get with the modern times........
Got it home and found out it doesnt come with a battery or charger....... so gotta wait for that to be delivered.
Fitted the new bumper that I made.
Its only for show, has no structural integrity. Save the car getting scratched but thats it, weighs as much as a bag of paperclips.
Last of the primer on the pattern, big race to get a mould off it before the weekend is over.
Shame it wasnt productive enough to mow the lawn.
Not strictly my fault, bought one of these Makita Li-Ion 18V strimmers..... Thought ah go on, ill get with the modern times........
Got it home and found out it doesnt come with a battery or charger....... so gotta wait for that to be delivered.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 29, 2019, 08:27:18 PM
Post by: clive on August 29, 2019, 08:27:18 PM
I like the fog lamp plinth ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 08:45:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 08:45:40 PM
Quote from: clive on August 29, 2019, 08:27:18 PM
I like the fog lamp plinth ;)
Haha
shame I'm cutting a hole in it for the exhaust to pop out lolll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 09:50:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 09:50:44 PM
Get me, I’m modern n everything lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 10:02:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2019, 10:02:27 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190829/85c8818df7a3d8e1d4972480db617c50.jpg)
Excuse the randomness just navigating my way around ...... this could get dangerous lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 01:51:42 AM
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 01:51:42 AM
Dog cat or rabbit?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 05:20:16 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 05:20:16 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 30, 2019, 01:51:42 AM
Dog cat or rabbit?
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Mr Flopsy mate (lion-head, lop earred rabbit)
Passed away last year after 8 years. Loved him to bits. Buried under the apple tree.
Had free roam of the back garden, lived in the garage and looked after the lotus before I tore it apart.
He was a grubby bugger, best way to describe him was relate him to "pig pen" from snoopy, the character that was constantly surrounded by a cloud of dust.
Mr Flopsy was quite often covered in his own poo, straw, matted furr, engine oil, under seal . He was grim, wouldn't change him for the world, and will never replace him.
If we had a drink down the bottom of the garden where that pic was taken, as you got up, he use to run rings around your feet so you couldn't leave.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 05:28:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 05:28:42 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/d0653a210b78e5558baa9719ebee27ff.jpg)
Sweet dreams little man
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 11:03:50 AM
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 11:03:50 AM
Lol...still cant see a rabbit in last photo...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 11:11:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2019, 11:11:42 AM
hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
Morning guys!
That awful primer has been blocked down..... takes ages :(
Its all been waxed up and a good healthy layer of gel coat. Laying up the chopped strand n resin this afternoon.
Good job i love the smell of this stuff :13:
That awful primer has been blocked down..... takes ages :(
Its all been waxed up and a good healthy layer of gel coat. Laying up the chopped strand n resin this afternoon.
Good job i love the smell of this stuff :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
Dun did
I buy industrial size tins and even they don’t last 5 mins these days, gonna start buying drums with a pump #goinhardcore
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I buy industrial size tins and even they don’t last 5 mins these days, gonna start buying drums with a pump #goinhardcore
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 31, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
Getting serious
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 01, 2019, 09:31:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 01, 2019, 09:31:42 AM
Well ive either got soft, seen sense or I dunno what it is, maybe just getting old, or the resin fumes have got to me.
I wanted to try and maintain the original lotus lines as much as possible......
.... Ive been told by 2 different people that the +2 was called the "slippery" elan due to its drag coeofficent of 0.3 which was excellent for its day compared to other cars of the era.
Ive not found any evidence on t'interweb to back up this nickname but the figures are true.
To put it in perspective, fast forward to 2018, the Mazda 3 has a coefficent of 0.27 and it is the top 10 list of the most aerodynamic cars of 2018.
It would be a shame to change the classic lines, but as Ive changed the wings and the front end, added diffuser, its looks like im going to succumb to the fitment of a spoiler.
The slippery nautre is great for fuel economy ( well the rotary has thrown out that arguement ) and for a greater top speed (lose my license on the road or find a track with a long straight to find its top speed)
The trade off will be added drag on the back end for increase downforce with a fitment of a spoiler and other flaps.
Clive gave me an insight at Beaulieu about Dan Gurney who fitted aluminum plates on the back of NASCARs etc but made them interchangeable.
So I thought a spoiler with a feature so I can play around with different size flaps... we're only talking flaps an inch high if that but they make the difference.
So this morning I started laying out the base on the original boot lid, just to get the right shape and it uses up the last dregs of resin......
The diffuser mould comes off today, wont be doing anymore on that till after my holiday.
p.s. I posted the blue Lotus coz I know Jon likes blue!
I wanted to try and maintain the original lotus lines as much as possible......
.... Ive been told by 2 different people that the +2 was called the "slippery" elan due to its drag coeofficent of 0.3 which was excellent for its day compared to other cars of the era.
Ive not found any evidence on t'interweb to back up this nickname but the figures are true.
To put it in perspective, fast forward to 2018, the Mazda 3 has a coefficent of 0.27 and it is the top 10 list of the most aerodynamic cars of 2018.
It would be a shame to change the classic lines, but as Ive changed the wings and the front end, added diffuser, its looks like im going to succumb to the fitment of a spoiler.
The slippery nautre is great for fuel economy ( well the rotary has thrown out that arguement ) and for a greater top speed (lose my license on the road or find a track with a long straight to find its top speed)
The trade off will be added drag on the back end for increase downforce with a fitment of a spoiler and other flaps.
Clive gave me an insight at Beaulieu about Dan Gurney who fitted aluminum plates on the back of NASCARs etc but made them interchangeable.
So I thought a spoiler with a feature so I can play around with different size flaps... we're only talking flaps an inch high if that but they make the difference.
So this morning I started laying out the base on the original boot lid, just to get the right shape and it uses up the last dregs of resin......
The diffuser mould comes off today, wont be doing anymore on that till after my holiday.
p.s. I posted the blue Lotus coz I know Jon likes blue!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 01, 2019, 02:49:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 01, 2019, 02:49:09 PM
Pleased with that
Just gotta make product
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on September 01, 2019, 07:21:44 PM
Post by: re japi on September 01, 2019, 07:21:44 PM
Good job mate
Yeah, that blue would be nice
Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Yeah, that blue would be nice
Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 04, 2019, 11:50:59 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 04, 2019, 11:50:59 AM
Bedroom balcony view for next 10 days
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 04, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
Post by: boosted on September 04, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
Ohh holibobs...enjoy.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 04, 2019, 07:59:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 04, 2019, 07:59:18 PM
Thanks bud, been away lots of times with work, China, Dubai, Saudi, Serbia, Germany, but I haven’t had a holiday abroad for over 10 years, so I’m enjoying the prospect of doing nothing and relaxing, but we do have a “rotary†washing line
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
Ha ha, can't get rotaries out of your head eh?
Enjoy your holiday 8)
Enjoy your holiday 8)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 08:44:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 08:44:41 AM
Nope I’m always looking, the most interesting thing I’ve seen on the drive from the airport to the villa was a mark 1 Escort in maize yellow.
Thanks Malcom, how was Italy ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 08:47:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 08:47:09 AM
Emma is still grunting, Jon reading his crime novels, barb by the pool and I’m being a nerd as usual 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on September 05, 2019, 08:48:37 AM
Post by: clive on September 05, 2019, 08:48:37 AM
:wee_hee:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 08:44:41 AM
Thanks Malcom, how was Italy ?
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Still here in Italy and it's gorgeous! Here's my current view, sitting in in shade for a while on the hotel terrace with the whole of the Bay of Naples in sight, Mount Vesuvius hiding behind a flower pot and flagpole ;)
We return home late tomorrow, very sadly :(
Sorry if pic big, can't easily resize on my phone.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
Wow looks gorgeous darling !
We’ve done breakfast, had 2 hours frying my skin. A few lengths of the pool and doing some more swotting before lunch.
Jons had an email from euro millions but because we’re not in the uk they won’t let him access the content of the email.
I could be the associate of a millionaire !!
I’m going to have to go against tradition and let Emma propose to me so I don’t look like a gold digger. lol
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We’ve done breakfast, had 2 hours frying my skin. A few lengths of the pool and doing some more swotting before lunch.
Jons had an email from euro millions but because we’re not in the uk they won’t let him access the content of the email.
I could be the associate of a millionaire !!
I’m going to have to go against tradition and let Emma propose to me so I don’t look like a gold digger. lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
Looks like you have your own villa....you need a lifeguard?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Yes. And yes please, can you rub lotion in my back
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html
Not directly related to cars but maybe , one day, they will lift the emissions laws and the rotary will rise from the ashes once more !
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Not directly related to cars but maybe , one day, they will lift the emissions laws and the rotary will rise from the ashes once more !
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Title: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
Question.......
I've made the exits ducts from the back of the oil coolers which Jon called "Emma's new shoes" and the air is funnelled into the front wheel wells.
I'm having a thought of utilising that spent air and use the same air to cool the discs..........
Therefore.....
1, do you think the discs need cooling on a light car?
2, I don't know how much the air passing through the coolers will increase in temperature by passing the oil coolers, there’s only the plastic wheel liners behind the coolers on the standard rx8 set up. I certainly would have thought it will still be cooler than the discs.
3, Clive where did you buy those backing plates with the ducts built in from for christine?
I'm just thinking of being "efficient" during the build....
I've made the exits ducts from the back of the oil coolers which Jon called "Emma's new shoes" and the air is funnelled into the front wheel wells.
I'm having a thought of utilising that spent air and use the same air to cool the discs..........
Therefore.....
1, do you think the discs need cooling on a light car?
2, I don't know how much the air passing through the coolers will increase in temperature by passing the oil coolers, there’s only the plastic wheel liners behind the coolers on the standard rx8 set up. I certainly would have thought it will still be cooler than the discs.
3, Clive where did you buy those backing plates with the ducts built in from for christine?
I'm just thinking of being "efficient" during the build....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
Clive, found the backing plates on RBE website......
Just wondered if it was worthwhile exercise using that air to cool
Just wondered if it was worthwhile exercise using that air to cool
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on September 09, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
Post by: clive on September 09, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 08, 2019, 12:21:24 PM
Clive, found the backing plates on RBE website......
Just wondered if it was worthwhile exercise using that air to cool
Here you go these are the ducts I fitted
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mazda-mx5-nc---rx8-brake--cooling-ducts-3332-p.asp
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 05:38:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 05:38:26 PM
Finally my dream has come true.....
Turning into the hulk
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 15, 2019, 06:58:15 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 15, 2019, 06:58:15 PM
Lol big head and hulk strike again
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 15, 2019, 06:58:15 PM
Lol big head and hulk strike again
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LOL @ big head hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:31:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:31:21 AM
I could be a super hero called "twinkle twinkle little star" lol ..... That's another story hahaha
Ugh I hate the first day back at work....... So far I've logged on to my computer and been to the loo.
So non enthusiastic
Ugh I hate the first day back at work....... So far I've logged on to my computer and been to the loo.
So non enthusiastic
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 16, 2019, 10:37:28 AM
Post by: Casey on September 16, 2019, 10:37:28 AM
I was thinking more Shrek than Hulk when I saw the green hand ;) ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 10:38:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 10:38:55 AM
Touche'
Shrek is far better looking than me Malcolm.
Shrek is far better looking than me Malcolm.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 16, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Post by: Casey on September 16, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Shrek's response....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
My response lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 17, 2019, 05:22:04 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 17, 2019, 05:22:04 PM
Is that the face you make when you
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 05:36:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 05:36:52 PM
A gentleman never tells
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 05:27:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 05:27:03 PM
Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
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Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 07:03:50 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 07:03:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 05:27:03 PM
Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
I'm sure you could still make them fit ::)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 07:24:14 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 07:24:14 PM
Ford at a guess?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:00:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: clive on September 18, 2019, 07:03:50 PMQuote from: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 05:27:03 PM
Took a punt on some second hand lights off eBay that looked like the would fit the body work well.
Right shape, they’re just huge and too big for the front end
It’s like they come off Portland bills lighthouse
Ah well ya can’t win them all ...... back to the drawing board
I'm sure you could still make them fit ::)
The overall height is bigger than the space I got and the overall width means if I butt them up against the oil cooler they are wider than the wings lol
Ya have to take a stab at these things now n then, they only set me back 50 quid for the pair, I can relist them on ebay, no great shakes.
Ill just buy some round Cibie's and shape some polycarbonate covers like on the 767
Tried to save me some time..... didnt pay off this time round
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:03:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 07:24:14 PM
Ford at a guess?
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Mk7 Transit of all things
Ive got a new style Mini headlight up in the loft of the garage that i bought for a bike project.
The lenses lean back nicely that may look cohesive with the wing, but the roundness of the light may screw things up .....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
I was going to say transit but I didn't want to offend you! Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 08:17:48 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 08:17:48 PM
Cheverolet silverado headlights? Similar ish shape. Not a Ford (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190918/73798a7122da4b61298aa1db65cb222b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:43:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:43:28 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 18, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
I was going to say transit but I didn't want to offend you! Lol
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Lol I wouldn't be offended by that..... ( I'd love a mk1 transit with the slidey drivers door)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:46:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:46:02 PM
I need to get some dims before I purchase anything else lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2019, 02:24:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2019, 02:24:06 PM
Thinking way in advance.....
......thought about making a tool to make my own wheel centre caps out of plastic.
The obvious choice is rotor shaped, as the car is neither Lotus or Mazda anymore.
Lay them up in GRP in a mould with black gel coat and then machine the boss on the lathe.
Couldn't think how to make the rotor shape in aluminium as I don't have a milling machine......and plastic is lighter. Colin would be so proud.
......thought about making a tool to make my own wheel centre caps out of plastic.
The obvious choice is rotor shaped, as the car is neither Lotus or Mazda anymore.
Lay them up in GRP in a mould with black gel coat and then machine the boss on the lathe.
Couldn't think how to make the rotor shape in aluminium as I don't have a milling machine......and plastic is lighter. Colin would be so proud.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Well......... 6 weeks ago we started the diffuser ( in steel) another cock up that was...
Laid the last of the resin tonight....... complete with NACA duct to cool the diff as advised by the helpful guys on here.
Popping it out tomorrow.... the diffuser that is.
It better fit or the father in law is sacked lol
Laid the last of the resin tonight....... complete with NACA duct to cool the diff as advised by the helpful guys on here.
Popping it out tomorrow.... the diffuser that is.
It better fit or the father in law is sacked lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
Over the moon with that !!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 04:19:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 04:19:04 PM
Nice crisp lines
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 06:55:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 06:55:25 PM
Thats enough for one day.....
..... need to shorten the silencer by another 1" :angryfire: :angryfire: but hey ho its no biggie.
happy with the overal fit.. looks like there will be enough suspension travel for the lower arms.
Any resduial air that comes down the transmission tunnel that doesnt escape out the centre vent will pass between the top of the diffsuer and the boot floor and scoop upwards around the bumper.
Couple of tweeks required, the bolts hanging out the bottom of the diff need shortening, easy fix.
Oh and the father in law just landed an unfinished lotus 7 replica 80% complete for £600 ! :violent1: Jammy *^%$£%$^&**
busy weekend ahead.
..... need to shorten the silencer by another 1" :angryfire: :angryfire: but hey ho its no biggie.
happy with the overal fit.. looks like there will be enough suspension travel for the lower arms.
Any resduial air that comes down the transmission tunnel that doesnt escape out the centre vent will pass between the top of the diffsuer and the boot floor and scoop upwards around the bumper.
Couple of tweeks required, the bolts hanging out the bottom of the diff need shortening, easy fix.
Oh and the father in law just landed an unfinished lotus 7 replica 80% complete for £600 ! :violent1: Jammy *^%$£%$^&**
busy weekend ahead.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 20, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Post by: Casey on September 20, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Great work Jamie, looks ace :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 09:56:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 09:56:43 PM
Thank you Malcolm, was a lot of work for 1 panel, hope it works. Got a bit more to add to it yet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on September 20, 2019, 10:11:30 PM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2019, 10:11:30 PM
Staggeringly amazing work :13:
BTW I think when its done the car should be presented for the next Bond movie, after all you do have the rocket launcher in place ;)
BTW I think when its done the car should be presented for the next Bond movie, after all you do have the rocket launcher in place ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 06:09:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 06:09:09 AM
Quote from: clive on September 20, 2019, 10:11:30 PMCheers Clive.... It looks the part..... The amazing part of it wont be revealed until it's finished and I can find out if it actually works. I've done enough swotting and research on the topic, but I think I've only scratched the surface still lots to learn, and you can only make your best guess using formulas and case studies as I have. There are no hard and fast rules, cars are vastly different you can fit the same part to 2 different cars and get varying results.
Staggeringly amazing work :13:
BTW I think when its done the car should be presented for the next Bond movie, after all you do have the rocket launcher in place ;)
The real successes are being out on the track like you do, and seeing if it physically makes a difference, but I'm not there yet.
I won't be making a wind tunnel in the shed lol.
I'm under no illusion, I won't be designing multi stage wings for the front of Lewis hamiltons formula 1 car; but air is one of the few things in life that IS free. I may as well try to use it to my advantage.
Getting to grips with this dark art of fibreglassing. I dare say the father in law will get me roped in to making him stuff for his new toy.
Roger Moore had a lotus didn't he?? Don't ask me to get the wheels to tuck in and make it turn into a boat....... But then it is made from the same crap as canoes :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 01:29:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 01:29:08 PM
Ugh I must be getting old, gotta pic my first pair of specs.....
Can I get some like Joe 90
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:02 PM
Can we get a vote going please ? I’m indecisive......
Rate my tip lol
Options are
1 Straight ( but lots shorter)
2 Down turn stubby
3 down turn longer
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Rate my tip lol
Options are
1 Straight ( but lots shorter)
2 Down turn stubby
3 down turn longer
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
Stubby
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 04:53:46 PM
Down turn long
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
Down turn long...limit noise at pesky track days noise tests.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 07:17:59 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 07:17:59 PM
Long because keep flames away from bodyvwork.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 08:46:49 PM
I'm liking the logic behind that :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:48:44 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:48:44 PM
Down turned and long to keep it away from the body.
I saw the top gear article where the mazda furai set on fire... Worrying
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
https://youtu.be/e8mOqtiJXuI
This is my new favourite video in existence
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:56:29 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 21, 2019, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 06:55:25 PMThat is low. You could replace the studs with bolts?
Thats enough for one day.....
..... need to shorten the silencer by another 1" :angryfire: :angryfire: but hey ho its no biggie.
happy with the overal fit.. looks like there will be enough suspension travel for the lower arms.
Any resduial air that comes down the transmission tunnel that doesnt escape out the centre vent will pass between the top of the diffsuer and the boot floor and scoop upwards around the bumper.
Couple of tweeks required, the bolts hanging out the bottom of the diff need shortening, easy fix.
Oh and the father in law just landed an unfinished lotus 7 replica 80% complete for £600 ! :violent1: Jammy *^%$£%$^&**
busy weekend ahead.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 08:59:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 08:59:28 PM
I've hacked the studs back with no adverse effects.
10mm clearance now
That vid emphasises yours and Jons point, not that I have 4 rotors ....
10mm clearance now
That vid emphasises yours and Jons point, not that I have 4 rotors ....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2019, 08:27:51 AM
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2019, 08:27:51 AM
Its the over run thats most worrying as a slow burn from exhaust can have flames up under bumper and maybe ignite any fuel vapour in boot from say external tank and swirlpot etc.
Flames are great but they can also burnt your P&J to crispy chicken...lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 08:37:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 08:37:58 AM
LOL never thought i could say that the Rotus "tastes like chicken" hahaha
All vaild points and taken on board.
I cut the rolled lip off the straight tip this morning and welded it to the down turn long tip, to make it a little longer and stop pedestrians slicing their shins open..... cast your mind back to yesterdays convo regarding gore lol
Cheers guys
All vaild points and taken on board.
I cut the rolled lip off the straight tip this morning and welded it to the down turn long tip, to make it a little longer and stop pedestrians slicing their shins open..... cast your mind back to yesterdays convo regarding gore lol
Cheers guys
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 08:44:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 08:44:47 AM
Yam
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
Looks awesome, good job mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on September 22, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 22, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
TIG?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 22, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
Looks awesome, good job mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 22, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 22, 2019, 01:41:44 PM
TIG?
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Aye
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 24, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 24, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
Offline tonight, can't read properly I'm squinting one eyed thankfully I pads have big keepers had my pupils dilated at hospital see y'all tomorrow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 25, 2019, 06:55:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 25, 2019, 06:55:38 AM
Loll letters not keepers, blind prat.
That was horrible, but retinas are all good :icon_thumleft: had an eye test Saturday, had one of those funky 3D scans, saw a green blob in my eye ball.
Hospital confirmed its just a nevus nowt to stress over.
Strangely looking forward to my first pair of specs on Sunday. I may look intellectual for once :th_smiley-typing: or just like a minion with my chrome dome
That was horrible, but retinas are all good :icon_thumleft: had an eye test Saturday, had one of those funky 3D scans, saw a green blob in my eye ball.
Hospital confirmed its just a nevus nowt to stress over.
Strangely looking forward to my first pair of specs on Sunday. I may look intellectual for once :th_smiley-typing: or just like a minion with my chrome dome
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2019, 12:36:15 AM
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2019, 12:36:15 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 25, 2019, 06:55:38 AM
Strangely looking forward to my first pair of specs on Sunday. I may look intellectual for once :th_smiley-typing: or just like a minion with my chrome dome
:s_cool: Can't wait for pics with your specs on now ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 27, 2019, 05:46:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 27, 2019, 05:46:53 AM
Thankfully they're not strong, I need them when I'm sat at my pc all day looking at car stuff lol and stop me getting headaches.
I'm not wearing them in the shed, I'm so clumsy, I'll kill them in half a day .....
I may give you a sneak preview on one social media platform or another
I'm not wearing them in the shed, I'm so clumsy, I'll kill them in half a day .....
I may give you a sneak preview on one social media platform or another
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 06, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 06, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
All a bit quiet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 06, 2019, 07:28:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 06, 2019, 07:28:38 PM
Evening Paul,
Sorry nohing exciting happening, rubbing down polystyrene and filler for more parts....
More chop chop than chit chat
Sorry nohing exciting happening, rubbing down polystyrene and filler for more parts....
More chop chop than chit chat
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Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 01:08:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 01:08:16 PM
So some good news for a change!
Weve been to see a private neurologist today to get some answers.
Contrary to what both Emma and I believed, Transverse Myelitis is not a condition in itself but an outcome of an underlying problem; in the same way that people get headaches caused by stress or eye strain etc. (So weve learned something) *First tick*
We saw the MRI scans today for the first time and we have been told that there is a 99.9% chance its not Multiple Sclerosis, or certainly the evidence suggests that. *Big tick*
They are confident this condition is a one off and Emma will make a full recovery but they cannot say how long it will take, it could be 3 months, it could be 3 years. fingers crossed.
More bloods required to rule out anti bodies in her system that could be related to Neuromyelitis Optica or NMO. If her body is clear of this anti body then she can come off the steroids immediately as all they are doing is controlling the inflammation on her spinal cord in case she does have NMO. Another big tick as the weight gain is getting her down. (Gravity works like that lol)
So, possible causes that attacked her nervous system in the first place. NMO, being run down, eczema, thrush, flu, or a B12 vitamin deficiency which apparently is also an auto immune condition.
We may never know the cause, but the good news is that there is hope of a full recovery, just need to be patient, and in the grand scheme of things, if you rate her level from 1 being having the condition with no symptoms to 10 being completely paralyzed shes around a 2 or 3......
Certainly a dark cloud is gone from my mind
Weve been to see a private neurologist today to get some answers.
Contrary to what both Emma and I believed, Transverse Myelitis is not a condition in itself but an outcome of an underlying problem; in the same way that people get headaches caused by stress or eye strain etc. (So weve learned something) *First tick*
We saw the MRI scans today for the first time and we have been told that there is a 99.9% chance its not Multiple Sclerosis, or certainly the evidence suggests that. *Big tick*
They are confident this condition is a one off and Emma will make a full recovery but they cannot say how long it will take, it could be 3 months, it could be 3 years. fingers crossed.
More bloods required to rule out anti bodies in her system that could be related to Neuromyelitis Optica or NMO. If her body is clear of this anti body then she can come off the steroids immediately as all they are doing is controlling the inflammation on her spinal cord in case she does have NMO. Another big tick as the weight gain is getting her down. (Gravity works like that lol)
So, possible causes that attacked her nervous system in the first place. NMO, being run down, eczema, thrush, flu, or a B12 vitamin deficiency which apparently is also an auto immune condition.
We may never know the cause, but the good news is that there is hope of a full recovery, just need to be patient, and in the grand scheme of things, if you rate her level from 1 being having the condition with no symptoms to 10 being completely paralyzed shes around a 2 or 3......
Certainly a dark cloud is gone from my mind
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 09, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Post by: boosted on October 09, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Fantastic news!!! Big hugs!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 01:59:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 01:59:12 PM
Cheers Jon. We (Emma) needed that boost today. We have answers. Nothing worse than being kept in the dark
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 02:11:38 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 02:11:38 PM
Good news!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
Thanks Paul. How’s tricks with your better half ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 02:38:50 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 02:38:50 PM
Not too bad thanks. Our daughter has been born. Bit of a traumatic birth, had the cord wrapped tight around her neck when she popped out. Was a bit limp and purple, but all good now.
Wife has a vascular rash develop, the doctors are a bit concerned. Waiting on blood tests to come back.
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Wife has a vascular rash develop, the doctors are a bit concerned. Waiting on blood tests to come back.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 09, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
Post by: Casey on October 09, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
Well, many congratulations Paul :binkybaby: I hope the issue with your wife is quickly sorted.
And Jamie, that's great news about Emma too. Although you still don't know the cause, at least the prognosis is a hell of a lot brighter now. Big hugs from me!
Wow, a good news day to brighten up this gloom :)
All we need is a clear Brexit direction/decision now............ ;)
And Jamie, that's great news about Emma too. Although you still don't know the cause, at least the prognosis is a hell of a lot brighter now. Big hugs from me!
Wow, a good news day to brighten up this gloom :)
All we need is a clear Brexit direction/decision now............ ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 03:27:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 03:27:12 PM
Ditto
fingers crossed for your partner Paul
And many congrats on fatherhood
Cheers Malcolm. Need to get her behind the wheel again.... don’t like being taxi driver in Birmingham this morning lol
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fingers crossed for your partner Paul
And many congrats on fatherhood
Cheers Malcolm. Need to get her behind the wheel again.... don’t like being taxi driver in Birmingham this morning lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
Brexit???
Isn’t that a myth, like women’s rights ? Lol
I’m hiding now haha
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Isn’t that a myth, like women’s rights ? Lol
I’m hiding now haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 09, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
Post by: boosted on October 09, 2019, 03:33:06 PM
Congrats Paul...how many jam eaters is that now?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 03:34:53 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 09, 2019, 03:34:53 PM
2.another daughter to join the crew. I feel outnumbered
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
Awwww you live in the oestrogen ocean, give it a couple of years you’ll be coming home from work to a naked barbie convention all over the lounge floor lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on October 10, 2019, 07:02:14 AM
Post by: re japi on October 10, 2019, 07:02:14 AM
Finally some good news J! :13: Sometimes just some good news boost up your morale and make you feel better...
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 10, 2019, 07:04:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 10, 2019, 07:04:21 AM
Yup Yup
We even had a little celebration last night :icon_thumleft:
We even had a little celebration last night :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
In case you all thought I died..... (wishful thinking eh)
The blood is still warm that courses through these veins, albeit with filler dust and glass fibre strands
Still stuff going on in the shed of truth ....
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The blood is still warm that courses through these veins, albeit with filler dust and glass fibre strands
Still stuff going on in the shed of truth ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
Oh and I finally have a boot floor, just enough room for a space saver, a Jerry can, a sex blanket and a 10mm spanner
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 12:54:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 12:54:45 PM
Gaurenteed to lose that 10mm the second you put it in the boot
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
lol, summat bigger like a 17mm may be more visible, I just cant fit it in
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
A picture of some spanners may fit in better
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 12:59:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 12:59:26 PM
Indeed
Don’t think I’ll be going for a long weekend in that car
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 16, 2019, 01:38:38 PM
Post by: Casey on October 16, 2019, 01:38:38 PM
Let me know if my long-lost 10mm socket turns up in there will you Jamie ;) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 01:39:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 16, 2019, 01:39:33 PM
Haha
Will do Malcolm :icon_thumleft:
Will do Malcolm :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
Took the auxiliary LH and RH diffusers off the moulds today.
They are not expected to do much on their own.
They assist the main diffuser to be more efficient by stopping turbulent nasties off the rear wheels entering the main part.
Plus venting air from down the transmission tunnel.
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They are not expected to do much on their own.
They assist the main diffuser to be more efficient by stopping turbulent nasties off the rear wheels entering the main part.
Plus venting air from down the transmission tunnel.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on October 18, 2019, 07:26:08 AM
Post by: re japi on October 18, 2019, 07:26:08 AM
Looks absolutely mental! Good job mate. :sign0098: Cant wait too see that thing finished :P
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 18, 2019, 08:20:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 18, 2019, 08:20:15 AM
Cheers Kaveri
I cant even see the light at the end of the tunnel
Sick of filler, sick of fibreglass, Im hoping by Xmas I can get back onto mechanicals, fabrication and .....gulp ....wiring
I cant even see the light at the end of the tunnel
Sick of filler, sick of fibreglass, Im hoping by Xmas I can get back onto mechanicals, fabrication and .....gulp ....wiring
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 18, 2019, 02:14:41 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 18, 2019, 02:14:41 PM
Exhaust looks good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 18, 2019, 02:16:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 18, 2019, 02:16:40 PM
If it keeps the flames away from all that plastic ill be happy lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 07:11:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 07:11:28 AM
Ive not bored you lot for a while so quick update.
Just waiting on some tie bars for the back to stop the aero flapping about.
Im hoping with the contrast of orange body and satin black aero parts, you still be able to distinguish the lines of the car.
Was up at stupid oclock sanding bits for the duck tail spoiler, chucking a third brake light in, i dont know why, maybe to break up the slab back.
............. off to Caffeine and Machine today. Ill take some poor quality pics if theres anything interesting.
Just waiting on some tie bars for the back to stop the aero flapping about.
Im hoping with the contrast of orange body and satin black aero parts, you still be able to distinguish the lines of the car.
Was up at stupid oclock sanding bits for the duck tail spoiler, chucking a third brake light in, i dont know why, maybe to break up the slab back.
............. off to Caffeine and Machine today. Ill take some poor quality pics if theres anything interesting.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 27, 2019, 09:51:30 AM
Post by: clive on October 27, 2019, 09:51:30 AM
I'm sure many people follow this with anticipation of the next part or piece being constructed, so your far from boring people.
p.s. fancy posting up pictures of this becoming famed Caffeine and Machine outside and in, as we will try and get there some time.
p.s. fancy posting up pictures of this becoming famed Caffeine and Machine outside and in, as we will try and get there some time.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 09:53:04 AM
What Clive said
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2019, 10:07:17 AM
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2019, 10:07:17 AM
Ditto what Clive said :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 12:50:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 12:50:14 PM
Ahh just seen your post, didn’t take any inside the building, it’s very nice, packed inside, took some pics inside the wigwam and some cars, I’ll post later.
There’s a vw camper van and a Kawasaki drag bike inside
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 12:52:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 12:52:50 PM
Saying that it would look a bit weird taking pics inside coz it was rammed. People would think I was into voyuerism or summat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:21:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:21:18 PM
Home,
Good turn out from the Worcester Car Club. All walks of life at C&M. Really expensive Italian cars beginning with F, cant say it, Ill have to spit on the floor.
To Hillman imps with patina, motorbikes, drag race inspired Ford Anglia 100E with wheelie bars, Consuls, V8 Triumph heralds hmmmm not for me.
1 RX8, 1 RX7, a Dodge truck parked next to a westfield looked funny.
An AZ1 ....... super looking old skool porsche, Lotus Elan ( gone before I got chance to take pics)
As theres not many display cars.... your pretty much governed by what turns up on the day, so going with a car club is a great idea. Especially if your travelling from the far end of the country as your guaranteed to see some great stuff in the car park.
£5 entry for cars regardless of passengers. Great atmosphere, car guys talking to bikers, old, young, bring ya dog even.
Hope you enjoy the pics. I buy a decent camera one day instead of using my phone.......
Good turn out from the Worcester Car Club. All walks of life at C&M. Really expensive Italian cars beginning with F, cant say it, Ill have to spit on the floor.
To Hillman imps with patina, motorbikes, drag race inspired Ford Anglia 100E with wheelie bars, Consuls, V8 Triumph heralds hmmmm not for me.
1 RX8, 1 RX7, a Dodge truck parked next to a westfield looked funny.
An AZ1 ....... super looking old skool porsche, Lotus Elan ( gone before I got chance to take pics)
As theres not many display cars.... your pretty much governed by what turns up on the day, so going with a car club is a great idea. Especially if your travelling from the far end of the country as your guaranteed to see some great stuff in the car park.
£5 entry for cars regardless of passengers. Great atmosphere, car guys talking to bikers, old, young, bring ya dog even.
Hope you enjoy the pics. I buy a decent camera one day instead of using my phone.......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 04:22:53 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 04:22:53 PM
I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
Part 2
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:26:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:26:41 PM
Part 3
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:30:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:30:01 PM
Cant be much more..........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:36:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 04:22:53 PM
I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Mate it was a beast!
spot the 100E anglia with the brackets for the nitrous bottles, Father in law asked if they were for the Nitro Mors bottles..............
Bless lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
Id take the rs1600i home...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 05:15:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 27, 2019, 05:03:40 PMHad steel wheels on and still looked great . probably rare as hens teeth these days.
Id take the rs1600i home...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 05:16:05 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 04:36:06 PMHa, qualityQuote from: Paul_13 on October 27, 2019, 04:22:53 PM
I hope you stood far enough back from the mustang when he left
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Mate it was a beast!
spot the 100E anglia with the brackets for the nitrous bottles, Father in law asked if they were for the Nitro Mors bottles..............
Bless lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2019, 05:54:03 PM
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2019, 05:54:03 PM
An interesting collection of cars there :13:
Loving the Ford Anglia. My dad's first car was a Ford Prefect. I must dig out a pic and post it up!
Thanks for taking the time to post up all those pictures Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Loving the Ford Anglia. My dad's first car was a Ford Prefect. I must dig out a pic and post it up!
Thanks for taking the time to post up all those pictures Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 06:43:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: clive on October 27, 2019, 09:51:30 AM
I'm sure many people follow this with anticipation of the next part or piece being constructed, so your far from boring people.
p.s. fancy posting up pictures of this becoming famed Caffeine and Machine outside and in, as we will try and get there some time.
In which case.........
Carved the hole in the spoiler for the third brake.
pattern made from sandwiched pieces of 10 x profiles cut in 12mm ply and 100mm polystyrene....
.......sanded to get the rough shape and covered in "Clag"....... shaped. It has curves on 3 planes........... i hate it lol
Chucked it on the car this evening, bodged some more foam on the ends so the spoiler will over sail the gap on the boot lid opening and sit on the rear quarters.
More clag and shaping, then its more moulds to make.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 06:50:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2019, 06:50:22 PM
I remember when mine looked similar to that once, eewwww at them lights!
8 " deep bumpers....yakky poos
8 " deep bumpers....yakky poos
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2019, 09:26:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2019, 09:26:10 AM
Spoiler in primer.
Need to be clever with the moulds on this one. gotta lay it up on both halves and then sandwich together, and fill with PU foam.
sounds messy!
Need to be clever with the moulds on this one. gotta lay it up on both halves and then sandwich together, and fill with PU foam.
sounds messy!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 31, 2019, 05:17:07 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 31, 2019, 05:17:07 PM
Nice. Keep the pics coming
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2019, 08:10:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2019, 08:10:42 PM
Will do, Ill do some stages of the moulding process.... it will be a new technique.... dunno how it will come out, could be a disaster lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2019, 04:53:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2019, 04:53:01 PM
First few bits of the mould laying up.
rest will get finished off tomorrow.
trying to decide where the parting lines is was interesting!
rest will get finished off tomorrow.
trying to decide where the parting lines is was interesting!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2019, 06:08:14 PM
Couple more, last bit of gel coat...... done for one day.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 03, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 03, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
Welp!
Design flaw on the mould, should have made it 3 piece not 2 piece.
Theres an undercut around the third brake light hole. Destroyed the pattern getting it out.
Basically trying to squeeze a pumpkin through a letterbox.
I was gonna cut the mould off the product, but i cant lay up that area properly, so ill purposely short shot it and repair the spoiler after it comes out the mould.
Oh well, cant win them all lol
Design flaw on the mould, should have made it 3 piece not 2 piece.
Theres an undercut around the third brake light hole. Destroyed the pattern getting it out.
Basically trying to squeeze a pumpkin through a letterbox.
I was gonna cut the mould off the product, but i cant lay up that area properly, so ill purposely short shot it and repair the spoiler after it comes out the mould.
Oh well, cant win them all lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 03, 2019, 06:47:32 PM
Post by: boosted on November 03, 2019, 06:47:32 PM
Bit o p38 right as rain...
Like i know not lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 03, 2019, 09:13:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 03, 2019, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 03, 2019, 06:47:32 PM
Bit o p38 right as rain...
Like i know not lol
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It may come to that lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 04:45:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 04:45:02 AM
I could rename the car and have the make and model on the log book say......
The isopon p38 lol
The isopon p38 lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 04, 2019, 09:17:57 AM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2019, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 04:45:02 AM
I could rename the car and have the make and model on the log book say......
The isopon p38 lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
I'm so losing interest at the mo. Its just constant filler, sandpaper and GRP.
I realize I have to do these bits before i can work on other stuff.
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
Ugh sorry! just getting frustrated......
I realize I have to do these bits before i can work on other stuff.
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
Ugh sorry! just getting frustrated......
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Post by: clive on November 04, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 07:00:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: clive on November 04, 2019, 05:41:09 PMThanks for the kick up the a$$ Clive.Quote from: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
I don’t throw the towel in that easy. I’ll definitely finish it. No worries there.
I’ve put too much heart n soul into it.
I’ve got a surprise hopefully at the end of the month that will feed my rotary needs.
My gears are going a million miles an hour, I have so many ideas in my head that I want to build, I just want to finish this. I just need to turn a corner.
Just on a downer. Prolly cuz I didn’t have a very productive weekend. Then back to work . I’m a little more peppy tonight.... progress is good touch wood
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 07:34:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 07:34:48 PM
Here ya go,
2 layers of P38 lol ..... fasten the lotocones tomorrow, bolt the 2 halves together, fill inside with expanding PU foam and pray to Ganesha
2 layers of P38 lol ..... fasten the lotocones tomorrow, bolt the 2 halves together, fill inside with expanding PU foam and pray to Ganesha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 04, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Post by: re japi on November 04, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 07:00:36 PMMy thoughts too excatly, I couldnt put my thoughts to words better that you did... Really strugling to get motivation, just wanna drive it soon...Quote from: clive on November 04, 2019, 05:41:09 PMThanks for the kick up the a$$ Clive.Quote from: Jamie R on November 04, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
I just wanna drive it and enjoy it....... i hate working in sh** and dust everywhere.....
I really sympathise with this situation-----------------been there so many times :-[ like you say, just wanna drive it.
I so hope you finish this because as you know so so many cars become multiple garage fodder where they change hands again and again only to eventually disappear ::) I so so hope this car sees the light of day and wow's everyone out there, who can see the Jamie Experience in person.
Just last night, I heard of two RX-7 race cars up for sale after both changing hands having been bought with the best of intentions, I now wonder if either cars will ever see the light of day again !!
I so hope this car does not fall into this type of abyss.
Look I even found someone to help you get there
I don’t throw the towel in that easy. I’ll definitely finish it. No worries there.
I’ve put too much heart n soul into it.
I’ve got a surprise hopefully at the end of the month that will feed my rotary needs.
My gears are going a million miles an hour, I have so many ideas in my head that I want to build, I just want to finish this. I just need to turn a corner.
Just on a downer. Prolly cuz I didn’t have a very productive weekend. Then back to work . I’m a little more peppy tonight.... progress is good touch wood
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These cars sometimes need good kick in to owners plums, if owner wants to finnish it someday
Keep up the good work mate, I really want see this car finnished and live someday
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 06:27:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 06:27:41 AM
Cheers Kaveri, it will get there soon.
Be a 2 year project this Xmas, I have to remind myself from time to time the work thats been done so far. Its not like I can go and buy a whojamawotsit for bast@rd love child of a Lotus-Mazda mongrel.
Im very lucky Emma is tolerant and she understands that it wont build itself. Not that she can chase me out the shed. I need to build a conveyor belt from the kitchen to the shed so she can send me down cheese n pickle sarnies hahaha.
So got up at ridiculous o clock.......
moulded the lotocones in. it must be a Lotus-term, as can find them on t'internet. I recycled these ones from bits of original bodywork I cut away and no longer needed. Theyre cast ally I think, I just drill them out and tap with metric thread.
Moulded in some ally strip so i can drill and tap later to mount the light.
They dont have any loading on them just enough GRP to hold them in place and stop twisting from doing up and undoing. They pull closer to the body work when you crank them up so they wont shear off.
thickened the critical areas that need a bit more beef.
Be a 2 year project this Xmas, I have to remind myself from time to time the work thats been done so far. Its not like I can go and buy a whojamawotsit for bast@rd love child of a Lotus-Mazda mongrel.
Im very lucky Emma is tolerant and she understands that it wont build itself. Not that she can chase me out the shed. I need to build a conveyor belt from the kitchen to the shed so she can send me down cheese n pickle sarnies hahaha.
So got up at ridiculous o clock.......
moulded the lotocones in. it must be a Lotus-term, as can find them on t'internet. I recycled these ones from bits of original bodywork I cut away and no longer needed. Theyre cast ally I think, I just drill them out and tap with metric thread.
Moulded in some ally strip so i can drill and tap later to mount the light.
They dont have any loading on them just enough GRP to hold them in place and stop twisting from doing up and undoing. They pull closer to the body work when you crank them up so they wont shear off.
thickened the critical areas that need a bit more beef.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on November 05, 2019, 06:57:21 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on November 05, 2019, 06:57:21 AM
Keep at it.
I hit a downer when I was trying to sort the wiring on mine. Felt like it was taking forever. Truth was I was drinking whilst doing it :)
Then I turned 30, thought sh!t I've got to sort myself out. Plus the wife made a birthday cake which had the mx5 in pieces on.
That was sign I needed to lose weight and sort the car out
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I hit a downer when I was trying to sort the wiring on mine. Felt like it was taking forever. Truth was I was drinking whilst doing it :)
Then I turned 30, thought sh!t I've got to sort myself out. Plus the wife made a birthday cake which had the mx5 in pieces on.
That was sign I needed to lose weight and sort the car out
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 07:04:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 07:04:53 AM
Nothing like a motivational kick up the hind end from ya loved one.
That’s some pretty artistic stuff there, like Xbox hand controller lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on November 05, 2019, 07:41:57 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on November 05, 2019, 07:41:57 AM
Our cake lady is damn good
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Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 08:13:40 AM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on November 05, 2019, 07:41:57 AM
Our cake lady is damn good
Yep, Damn good :happybirthday3:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 07:04:53 AM
Nothing like a motivational kick up the hind end from ya loved one.
Projects can be tough going.
The RX-4 looked like this for maybe a year and it was Lisa who said to me to try and get it back together as the guys at Rotarystock would love to see the car finished. Gave me the kick I needed :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 03:53:08 PM
a year?
In the words of George Formby......
...... turned out nice mother !
In the words of George Formby......
...... turned out nice mother !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2019, 03:56:06 PM
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2019, 03:56:06 PM
Yep stick at it Jamie, judging by your other projects its gonna epic.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 04:07:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 04:07:04 PM
Cheers Jon,
I hope so :icon_thumleft:
Apart from my RD400 project of turning pistons, barrels, carbs and exhausts back to front........ this has been the most technically challenging.
Looking at what I want to build next, this now seems quite basic.
Always pushing the boundaries of what a "shed built car" can be eh?
I hope so :icon_thumleft:
Apart from my RD400 project of turning pistons, barrels, carbs and exhausts back to front........ this has been the most technically challenging.
Looking at what I want to build next, this now seems quite basic.
Always pushing the boundaries of what a "shed built car" can be eh?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 07:17:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 07:17:21 PM
So butter up the edges with gel coat, bolt the mould together and pour in the foam.....
Lets hope it comes apart in 1 piece tomorrow
Lets hope it comes apart in 1 piece tomorrow
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2019, 11:32:53 AM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2019, 11:32:53 AM
Yeah, we've all been there Jamie. I'm finding it hard to find the time and motivation to get on with KIMI 1. Every now and again I manage to do a small piece of work and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's tough keeping going with so many other demands on my time - and I'm retired, so goodness knows how you manage to do so well! Keep it up, looks great progress from my perspective :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2019, 07:59:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2019, 07:59:19 PM
Well, thats a success! .....
Sand all the flashing off around the sides. General once over sanding.
I was expecting some repairs to do, but all thats wrong is its missing a bit of gel goat and you can see the resin. Its all smooth on the surface
Wasnt a easy demoulding, slow n steady wins the race! (Clives thinking does it hell! lol)
Happy with that....
Ill post more more when its mounted on the car
Sand all the flashing off around the sides. General once over sanding.
I was expecting some repairs to do, but all thats wrong is its missing a bit of gel goat and you can see the resin. Its all smooth on the surface
Wasnt a easy demoulding, slow n steady wins the race! (Clives thinking does it hell! lol)
Happy with that....
Ill post more more when its mounted on the car
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2019, 08:00:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2019, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: Casey on November 07, 2019, 11:32:53 AM
Yeah, we've all been there Jamie. I'm finding it hard to find the time and motivation to get on with KIMI 1. Every now and again I manage to do a small piece of work and thoroughly enjoy it, but it's tough keeping going with so many other demands on my time - and I'm retired, so goodness knows how you manage to do so well! Keep it up, looks great progress from my perspective :icon_thumleft:
Thanks Malcolm.....
You could always sell KIMI 1 to me lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2019, 02:42:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2019, 02:42:39 PM
Well its on!
Im actually happy! shock horror........
Little fettling required..... even put a grommet in for the wiring for that professional touch lol.
Nice equal gaps, fitted some rivnuts and bolts so I can play around with different height gurney flaps on the top of the spoiler and theres a little ledge moulded in so the flaps are flush with the face of the spoiler when fitted.
Im actually happy! shock horror........
Little fettling required..... even put a grommet in for the wiring for that professional touch lol.
Nice equal gaps, fitted some rivnuts and bolts so I can play around with different height gurney flaps on the top of the spoiler and theres a little ledge moulded in so the flaps are flush with the face of the spoiler when fitted.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 09, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
Post by: re japi on November 09, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
Love it!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 09, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
Post by: clive on November 09, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
Getting there :wee_hee: Getting there :wee_hee: Getting there :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 10, 2019, 07:13:17 PM
Post by: Casey on November 10, 2019, 07:13:17 PM
Looks superb :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 10, 2019, 07:51:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 10, 2019, 07:51:11 PM
Thanks chaps......
Look better with a lick of paint lol
Look better with a lick of paint lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 08:26:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 08:26:49 AM
Welp.....amongst all the s**t at work...... god if I hear my name called one more time !!!!
anyway... breathe....im still working on the jam jar.
Had a small break from GRP and started making some wheel arch liners out of ali.
The originals were pre galv steel with a rubber trim around the outside. They are positioned in the front and rear wheel wells to cover up the steel sill members and to gain access by sliding them out the GRP sills into the wheel wells.
I kept the axle line centre on the back the same as the lotus set up. So now im running RX8 wheels there is little clearance.
Thankfully the rear wheels dont steer and if I set them with a bit of toe in ill get more clearance, Currently with 1/2"...... if I go off in the kitty litter i may get some debris stuck lol
Finished off the undertray too, covered up the fuel filter etc, stop all the crap off the wheels getting near them and some air deflectors to direct any air from around the tyre into the right directons.
On to the business end before we drop the car back on the floor. Its been on ramps since I started making the expanded foam wings many many months aso.
Bought some ducted backing plates from some nice guy on here. Gonna utilise the spent air from the oil coolers and help protect the back end of the coolers from getting debris flung at them.
I have a theory that because the stock oil coolers have a rubber shroud around them, the ambient temp isnt high enough to "warm" the discs from the spent air and the discs will be a higher temp......
It works in my head, if not in real life ill just disconnect the hose lol
So its back on the GRP and mocking it up in mud and junk...... I swear my heart pumps resin around my body.....
Anyway, done for one day, Im off to hopefully by another rotary ! :13: :13:
anyway... breathe....im still working on the jam jar.
Had a small break from GRP and started making some wheel arch liners out of ali.
The originals were pre galv steel with a rubber trim around the outside. They are positioned in the front and rear wheel wells to cover up the steel sill members and to gain access by sliding them out the GRP sills into the wheel wells.
I kept the axle line centre on the back the same as the lotus set up. So now im running RX8 wheels there is little clearance.
Thankfully the rear wheels dont steer and if I set them with a bit of toe in ill get more clearance, Currently with 1/2"...... if I go off in the kitty litter i may get some debris stuck lol
Finished off the undertray too, covered up the fuel filter etc, stop all the crap off the wheels getting near them and some air deflectors to direct any air from around the tyre into the right directons.
On to the business end before we drop the car back on the floor. Its been on ramps since I started making the expanded foam wings many many months aso.
Bought some ducted backing plates from some nice guy on here. Gonna utilise the spent air from the oil coolers and help protect the back end of the coolers from getting debris flung at them.
I have a theory that because the stock oil coolers have a rubber shroud around them, the ambient temp isnt high enough to "warm" the discs from the spent air and the discs will be a higher temp......
It works in my head, if not in real life ill just disconnect the hose lol
So its back on the GRP and mocking it up in mud and junk...... I swear my heart pumps resin around my body.....
Anyway, done for one day, Im off to hopefully by another rotary ! :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on November 16, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
Post by: rote8 on November 16, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
Jamie your aluminium fabricating skills almost exceed those of your skill in moulding.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: rote8 on November 16, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
Jamie your aluminium fabricating skills almost exceed those of your skill in moulding.
Cheers ole bean
I’m quite fortunate we have a ac tig welder at work, a guillotine and a press brake.
It makes for easy work
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:44:20 PM
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:44:20 PM
Damn, I was just going to say that yoo about alu work, but someone said it before me
Really good job mate. I think Ill stop posting my alu work pics
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Really good job mate.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 16, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
Ah don’t be daft buddy.
I cheat by having the equipment around me it makes life easier, and I use lots and lots of cardboard templates first
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 09:53:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:44:20 PM
Really good job mate.
Don’t stop posting your work jarno. If you are not happy with the Ali work. You have the power to change it.
I feel bad when you put stuff like that bud. My posts are to hopefully inspire people to get dirty and create something. Certainly not to make them feel crap.
There are soooooo many car builders out there that I dream of having the skills to create something as equally beautiful as they do.
As the father in law stupidly says.... well Jamie, you’re getting better as you improve lol.
So let’s come off the topic of Ali, and go back to grp, cardboard and mud
First pass needs lots more filling and shaping yet to make them a mirror image.
And just keep at it jarno! I equally hope to see this monster fc one day(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191117/b0cb528eb6f802dc02bc18b1b4918f85.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 17, 2019, 10:12:23 AM
Post by: re japi on November 17, 2019, 10:12:23 AM
My work is crap basically cause I dont have tools. Some bad metal scirrors wont do the job...
Fortunatly I have friend(that rallycross dude) near who has skills are tools to do stuff. He has helped me alot especially designing stuff. And more important, how fabricate them easily so they are easy to remove and put on. Like these fmic alu stuff. Now we are planning to do some molds to get some fibreglass parts. He is glass fibre expert him self...
Yes, you project is really an inspiraation. Absolutely amazing thing to follow.
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Fortunatly I have friend(that rallycross dude) near who has skills are tools to do stuff. He has helped me alot especially designing stuff. And more important, how fabricate them easily so they are easy to remove and put on. Like these fmic alu stuff. Now we are planning to do some molds to get some fibreglass parts. He is glass fibre expert him self...
Yes, you project is really an inspiraation. Absolutely amazing thing to follow.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 10:20:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 10:20:04 AM
There you go, that’s what makes the world go round. Buddies mucking in together helping out one another.
Group of mates, a common interest. It gets it done. Keep going! Rally cross season over. All guns blazing
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Group of mates, a common interest. It gets it done. Keep going! Rally cross season over. All guns blazing
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2019, 12:12:40 PM
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2019, 12:12:40 PM
Pair of snow shoes for Emma ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 12:20:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 12:20:29 PM
That’s the badger lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 07:26:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 17, 2019, 07:26:55 PM
That will do for 1 weekend,
Back to the madhouse tomorrow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 18, 2019, 07:29:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 18, 2019, 07:29:45 PM
Sorry for the stupid mad large pic on the last post..........dunno why it did that
Quick easy night tonight.
guide coat, sand, wax on, wax off (Mr Miaggi style) n gel coat. Lay it up tomorrow, fit Wednesday.
I'm hoping the aluminium turns up and get that cut bent and fitted before the weekend.
So the Rotus is coming down off the ramps this weekend. It went up on 24th Feb to start making the wings. 9 months almost!!!!
My 1 year anniversary on MRC this Sunday lol Id buy the cakes, but id eat them all myself lol
Quick easy night tonight.
guide coat, sand, wax on, wax off (Mr Miaggi style) n gel coat. Lay it up tomorrow, fit Wednesday.
I'm hoping the aluminium turns up and get that cut bent and fitted before the weekend.
So the Rotus is coming down off the ramps this weekend. It went up on 24th Feb to start making the wings. 9 months almost!!!!
My 1 year anniversary on MRC this Sunday lol Id buy the cakes, but id eat them all myself lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on November 19, 2019, 10:36:01 AM
Post by: jinx on November 19, 2019, 10:36:01 AM
Never mind the car....frame that checkerplate when you finish! Looks fantastic in the big picture. :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 19, 2019, 11:44:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 19, 2019, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: jinx on November 19, 2019, 10:36:01 AMLol
Never mind the car....frame that checkerplate when you finish! Looks fantastic in the big picture. :)
Industrial art ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 19, 2019, 04:36:33 PM
Post by: boosted on November 19, 2019, 04:36:33 PM
Sign it banksy and screw to your outside garage wall....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 20, 2019, 06:38:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 20, 2019, 06:38:03 PM
Filled a hole in the car (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191120/af33eb9df4248d91189b51ad4c1455a9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 20, 2019, 08:28:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 20, 2019, 08:28:30 PM
On it!
.... just not like a car bonnet.
Couldnt think of anything that rhymed with duct without swearing.
Anyway, they aint pretty.....yet..... but they fit and theyre on
.... just not like a car bonnet.
Couldnt think of anything that rhymed with duct without swearing.
Anyway, they aint pretty.....yet..... but they fit and theyre on
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2019, 07:50:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2019, 07:50:18 PM
The eagle has landed.....
on terra firma after 9 months.
I forgot how much it hugs the floor and how low the roof is.
Its a kids pedal car !
All thats left is everything else
on terra firma after 9 months.
I forgot how much it hugs the floor and how low the roof is.
Its a kids pedal car !
All thats left is everything else
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 21, 2019, 07:55:50 PM
Post by: Casey on November 21, 2019, 07:55:50 PM
Wow, just wow, looking really good Jamie :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 21, 2019, 08:10:37 PM
Post by: clive on November 21, 2019, 08:10:37 PM
Great to see it off its stilts :great:.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2019, 08:17:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2019, 08:17:10 PM
Yup cheers guys.
Longggg way to go yet
1 relocate the air filter
2 make the rad fan exit ducts to suit the air intake position
3 make a new bonnet to suit the rad fan exit ducts
4 make the upper nose cone and headlight mounts
5 make the lower grill, intakes and splitter
6 practice the dark arts of wiring
Should take me up to spring
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Longggg way to go yet
1 relocate the air filter
2 make the rad fan exit ducts to suit the air intake position
3 make a new bonnet to suit the rad fan exit ducts
4 make the upper nose cone and headlight mounts
5 make the lower grill, intakes and splitter
6 practice the dark arts of wiring
Should take me up to spring
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 22, 2019, 07:51:52 AM
Post by: re japi on November 22, 2019, 07:51:52 AM
Looks brilliant
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on November 22, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 22, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
Epic build and looks good just as it is. :13: :)) Said it before your skill at moulding etc. is superb :sign0098:. Can't wait to see this driven in anger :notworthy:.
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Post by: boosted on November 22, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
Yep looking good.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
Cheers fella
One lightweight door fitted
I’m gonna have to weld in door bars which will help as a perch to sit on as I get in (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/7a4ea44874d2c3f38b12deeb9a978a70.jpg)
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One lightweight door fitted
I’m gonna have to weld in door bars which will help as a perch to sit on as I get in (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/7a4ea44874d2c3f38b12deeb9a978a70.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 08:25:41 PM
Air intake plumbed
Don’t panic the back of the fans will have ducting to no warm air will be fed into the filter(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/30df82cb0a233472921e2542815277df.jpg)
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Don’t panic the back of the fans will have ducting to no warm air will be fed into the filter(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191122/30df82cb0a233472921e2542815277df.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 09:13:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2019, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: rote8 on November 22, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
Epic build and looks good just as it is. :13: :)) Said it before your skill at moulding etc. is superb :sign0098:. Can't wait to see this driven in anger :notworthy:.
Thank you sir.
They would be much better quality moulds if I was doing multiple castings, but it's make a mould, product, store the mould in case I prang the car lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
King size trivial pursuit or polystyrene cake tins.....
....you be the judge (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/863e2b813587e7bac053ed5c2ebd9215.jpg)
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....you be the judge (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/863e2b813587e7bac053ed5c2ebd9215.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 23, 2019, 03:02:04 PM
Post by: Casey on November 23, 2019, 03:02:04 PM
First thing I thought, before I even saw your comment, was "Triv" ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 23, 2019, 05:46:16 PM
Post by: clive on November 23, 2019, 05:46:16 PM
I dare you to fire the fans up, the whole street will think its snowing :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: clive on November 23, 2019, 05:46:16 PMHahaha
I dare you to fire the fans up, the whole street will think its snowing :)) :))
There’s about 10000000 white balls all over the floor already.
I’ve got the hot wire cutter out now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 07:43:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 07:43:31 AM
When you wonder why (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191124/a4c25dd7ffbd01cfc1da15b0a7ea862a.jpg)Emma’s snow shoes are twisted in body, then you realise the fans are offset by an inch on the fan shroud
.... it’s the little things that send the biggest challenges
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.... it’s the little things that send the biggest challenges
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on November 24, 2019, 09:56:51 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on November 24, 2019, 09:56:51 AM
Yay back on 4 wheels!
That exhaust setup is crying out for a turbo!
Happy to help with wiring.
I think the wiring guide is on here
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That exhaust setup is crying out for a turbo!
Happy to help with wiring.
I think the wiring guide is on here
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 10:25:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 10:25:48 AM
Lol no turbo for me bud, not on this project anyways.
I can just about get my head around all the solenoids and flaps on this thing.
I think there will be enough oomph for the weight of the car. I don’t want any funny surprises mid corner. Haha
Cheers for the support on the wiring.
I need to put that job off as long as I can lol it sends me cold
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I can just about get my head around all the solenoids and flaps on this thing.
I think there will be enough oomph for the weight of the car. I don’t want any funny surprises mid corner. Haha
Cheers for the support on the wiring.
I need to put that job off as long as I can lol it sends me cold
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 24, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Anyone for a slice of coffee and polystyrene cake ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191124/52c5d02f80962f3ddd17d9d48a542761.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
Reminiscing when R2D2 used to be a Siamese twin !
Taking shape.
Due to space constraints, I need to mock up the pattern in 3 pieces, remove and then bond together off the car.
Product will be in 2 pieces. Will need to mock up the new bonnet in parallel with the exit duct so there is good flow out the car.
Lots to do.
Taking shape.
Due to space constraints, I need to mock up the pattern in 3 pieces, remove and then bond together off the car.
Product will be in 2 pieces. Will need to mock up the new bonnet in parallel with the exit duct so there is good flow out the car.
Lots to do.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 26, 2019, 06:56:52 PM
Post by: boosted on November 26, 2019, 06:56:52 PM
I just saw 2 big boobies....prob says more about me than anything else...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2019, 07:59:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2019, 07:59:54 PM
Lol no me n the FIL call it the Dolly Parton duct
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 27, 2019, 08:02:42 AM
Post by: re japi on November 27, 2019, 08:02:42 AM
I saw boobies too... :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 27, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 27, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
Man Boobs :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
Change of plan.......
The air intake system and the rad outlet duct have been having a fight over space, the air intake won.
Keeping the boobies but the Rad outlet is coming out the nose cone now.
So fitted the original bonnet, hinged it, and the air intake and the bonnet had a fight over space, the air intake won.
The bonnet will be original release catches at the rear edge but on locating dowels on the front, so it will be a lift off bonnet.
Trouble is with a wedge shaped front end like the FB. Struggling for room everywhere...... Gotta fit my electric water pump somewhere....
Build schedule will change, on the bonnet build now.....
...
Going away the weekend, leggy going to it's new home on Sunday.
Try and get some pics done middle of next week
The air intake system and the rad outlet duct have been having a fight over space, the air intake won.
Keeping the boobies but the Rad outlet is coming out the nose cone now.
So fitted the original bonnet, hinged it, and the air intake and the bonnet had a fight over space, the air intake won.
The bonnet will be original release catches at the rear edge but on locating dowels on the front, so it will be a lift off bonnet.
Trouble is with a wedge shaped front end like the FB. Struggling for room everywhere...... Gotta fit my electric water pump somewhere....
Build schedule will change, on the bonnet build now.....
...
Going away the weekend, leggy going to it's new home on Sunday.
Try and get some pics done middle of next week
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 30, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 30, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
Bonnet on and kind of aligned.
Trying to incorporate the shape of the engine cover into the bonnet.
More polystyrene and mud ahead lol
Trying to incorporate the shape of the engine cover into the bonnet.
More polystyrene and mud ahead lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 30, 2019, 07:44:46 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on November 30, 2019, 07:44:46 PM
Are you going for the muscle car shaker hood look?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 30, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 30, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
Nope more of a power bulge
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2019, 07:13:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2019, 07:13:40 PM
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But I’m failing to understand why I can’t just leave it like this
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But I’m failing to understand why I can’t just leave it like this
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
Taking shape (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191204/48f25f149a567a1143808783a75f0b10.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
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Basic shape done
Stage 2 .........
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Basic shape done
Stage 2 .........
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2019, 08:05:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2019, 08:05:31 PM
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Renesis air scoop
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Renesis air scoop
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2019, 06:51:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2019, 06:51:50 PM
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Almost like it grew there
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Almost like it grew there
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2019, 06:59:41 PM
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2019, 06:59:41 PM
Interesting :13:
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Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2019, 07:14:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2019, 07:14:09 PM
Lol in a good way ? Or ya not convinced?
I need to put something on top. It was getting too pointy in the middle to clear the engine.
Breaks it up a bit I thought.
There will be a cut out at the back to try n cool the exhaust a bit. Either the renesis cover or a naca duct.
The outer edge of the cover matches the contour of the bonnet quite well....... it will do for now lol
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I need to put something on top. It was getting too pointy in the middle to clear the engine.
Breaks it up a bit I thought.
There will be a cut out at the back to try n cool the exhaust a bit. Either the renesis cover or a naca duct.
The outer edge of the cover matches the contour of the bonnet quite well....... it will do for now lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 09, 2019, 08:05:52 AM
Post by: clive on December 09, 2019, 08:05:52 AM
I think it will give the car more identity :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 09, 2019, 08:37:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 09, 2019, 08:37:31 AM
Certainly a nod to what’s under the bonnet if ya can’t tell
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 09, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Post by: Casey on December 09, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 08, 2019, 07:14:09 PMGood way - that's why a :13:, - nice hint to what's underneath :icon_thumleft:
Lol in a good way ? Or ya not convinced?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 09, 2019, 06:36:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 09, 2019, 06:36:34 PM
It’s all annoying me now.
Got the basic shape, but I’m being really fussy about curvatures. Doing one side is easy. Getting the other half identical is a nightmare
It’s compound curves on 2 planes .
Imagine giving someone a 1 foot cube of polystyrene and a sanding block and say make a perfect sphere. With no flat spots ......
Grrrrr
And ive used £120 of body filler so far and another 30 quid tomorrow.
It makes great adhesive tho lol
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Got the basic shape, but I’m being really fussy about curvatures. Doing one side is easy. Getting the other half identical is a nightmare
It’s compound curves on 2 planes .
Imagine giving someone a 1 foot cube of polystyrene and a sanding block and say make a perfect sphere. With no flat spots ......
Grrrrr
And ive used £120 of body filler so far and another 30 quid tomorrow.
It makes great adhesive tho lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 03:26:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 03:26:19 PM
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Xmas come early this year
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
I know you will do your homework on this one, but I used this type of set up a year ago and abandoned it, because of a minor little detail, like I couldn't stop the car !.
Allegedly the set up was for an RX-8, however the pedal was absolutely rock hard which indicated to me that the master cylinders were too big.
Problem with the race car is I couldn't just run it up n down the road to develop the system so out it went.
Like I said, I know you will do your homework :great:
(In the old days, most used Hillman Imp Cylinders for these conversions)
Allegedly the set up was for an RX-8, however the pedal was absolutely rock hard which indicated to me that the master cylinders were too big.
Problem with the race car is I couldn't just run it up n down the road to develop the system so out it went.
Like I said, I know you will do your homework :great:
(In the old days, most used Hillman Imp Cylinders for these conversions)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
Welp,
This is a universal set up for anything really, due to space constraints I need the M/C's coming back into the cockpit to which there will be a heel plate over the top.
Interestingly, the M/C's that come with it as standard are 0.625" for the front and 0.75" for the rear. Funnily exactly the same I had for my red top powered Mk1 escort donkeys years ago on a homemade bias pedal box.
From what I remember the brakes were phenomenal on my escort with no servo. I was running Austin Princess 4 pots on front and sierra calipers on the rear.
I know a lot can do with bore sizes (area) of each caliper piston in comparison to how much fluid each M/C can move.
As a ratio between front and rear, I know the bore sizes of the M/C's are right but I havnt gone to deep in calculating the total area of pistons in comparison at this stage. But theres a simple formula I have from my days at college doing fluid dynamics to work that out.
As you rightly said, you dont have the luxury of road test shakedown, and need to drive in anger from the start.
I have the luxury or buying different bore sizes of M/Cs if need be. My gut feeling from experience, is it "should" be fine, or certainly as a starter for 10.
Ill let you know either way.
My biggest concern is floor mounted brake with top hung RX8 loud pedal.......... Ive never had the need to practice heel and toe braking and changing down on the road.
And at my driving abilty on the track ( or lack of) , Ill probably still not need it for several months/years.
I just hope the funny arrangement doesnt hinder the option.
This is a universal set up for anything really, due to space constraints I need the M/C's coming back into the cockpit to which there will be a heel plate over the top.
Interestingly, the M/C's that come with it as standard are 0.625" for the front and 0.75" for the rear. Funnily exactly the same I had for my red top powered Mk1 escort donkeys years ago on a homemade bias pedal box.
From what I remember the brakes were phenomenal on my escort with no servo. I was running Austin Princess 4 pots on front and sierra calipers on the rear.
I know a lot can do with bore sizes (area) of each caliper piston in comparison to how much fluid each M/C can move.
As a ratio between front and rear, I know the bore sizes of the M/C's are right but I havnt gone to deep in calculating the total area of pistons in comparison at this stage. But theres a simple formula I have from my days at college doing fluid dynamics to work that out.
As you rightly said, you dont have the luxury of road test shakedown, and need to drive in anger from the start.
I have the luxury or buying different bore sizes of M/Cs if need be. My gut feeling from experience, is it "should" be fine, or certainly as a starter for 10.
Ill let you know either way.
My biggest concern is floor mounted brake with top hung RX8 loud pedal.......... Ive never had the need to practice heel and toe braking and changing down on the road.
And at my driving abilty on the track ( or lack of) , Ill probably still not need it for several months/years.
I just hope the funny arrangement doesnt hinder the option.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 09:01:39 PM
Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
I just hope the funny arrangement doesnt hinder the option.
I have faith in you grasshopper / nope to young to remember that then ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 09:14:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 09:14:37 PM
Lol nope it finished airing about 12 months before I was born
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Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 09:33:48 PM
Post by: clive on December 10, 2019, 09:33:48 PM
Ahh, but you knew what film I meant :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 10, 2019, 09:42:00 PM
That's karate kid, i remember that.....
I thought gas shopper was from Kung fu.........
I've just noticed the predictive text on grasshopper and I'm purposely leaving it as gas shopper is funnier lol
I thought gas shopper was from Kung fu.........
I've just noticed the predictive text on grasshopper and I'm purposely leaving it as gas shopper is funnier lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
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Here ya go jon.....
..... notes from college on plcs and control functions.....
Saw this n thought, Jon that poor guy !
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Here ya go jon.....
..... notes from college on plcs and control functions.....
Saw this n thought, Jon that poor guy !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 07:29:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 07:29:16 PM
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Good lord !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2019, 07:51:17 PM
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2019, 07:51:17 PM
Ladder logic is ace! So much simpler than Siemens. My favourite was Telemecanique literal code...first i learnt....i hardly do any plc work now ..tiny bit of mitsi....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 09:43:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 11, 2019, 09:43:04 PM
Quote from: clive on December 10, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
Like I said, I know you will do your homework :great:
So, contrary to my comments yesterday, the rear M/C is 0.7" not 0.75" I got confused with the clutch M/C, that said the escort one was still 0.75"
Anyway, rx8 front calipers have a piston diameter of 51mm and the rears are 42.9mm. Front M/C has a diameter of 15.875mm and the rears 17.78mm
Pressure applied to the brake pedal will be equal across each M/C, not to be confused with travel in mm.
So using the force ratio formula, if I applied 100 N to the brake pedal, then there will be 51472 N applied to the front discs and 32518 N
Hence more force to the Fronts as you'd expect.
Havnt worked out the travel required on each M/C yet, but I bet the piston travel is probably less than 2mm - 3mm to pull it up to a halt.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 11, 2019, 10:20:46 PM
Post by: clive on December 11, 2019, 10:20:46 PM
Please take into account the servo because as you know this greatly increases pedal pressure.
If you have tried to stop a car servo equipped car without the engine running, the pedal goes rock hard and this is how the race car felt.
In other words without a servo I was unable to apply enough pedal pressure to stop the car!
From memory you need smaller bore cylinders to exert more pressure to the calipers.
Hope this helps.
If you have tried to stop a car servo equipped car without the engine running, the pedal goes rock hard and this is how the race car felt.
In other words without a servo I was unable to apply enough pedal pressure to stop the car!
From memory you need smaller bore cylinders to exert more pressure to the calipers.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 04:32:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 04:32:22 AM
Yup totally agree, you are correct.
0.625" is the smallest bore available from obp ( I think from most other places) and is generally allocated for the front system.
The only other options are 0.7 (rears) 0.75 (clutch) 0.85 (oooof) and 1" if you have legs like Ronnie Coleman and can leg press 850kgs in the gym.
Another variable in the mix is the amount of weight you're trying to pull up, the same pedal system from your 8 in Jons westy maybe have different results in terms of stopping distance with the same "lack of feel" or excessive pressure required to even slow down.
You have not suggested this but in case of other readers following this thread and wanting to set the record straight. A popular misconception is servos make brakes better. Nope, the caliper performance, pad compound, disc size remains the same. A servo just reduces the amount of effort required to press the pedal to achieve the same braking performance.
Anyhow, we've mentioned his name.....
Jon? What size m/c's are you running in the westy, and how do find it in a car under 1000 kgs?
0.625" is the smallest bore available from obp ( I think from most other places) and is generally allocated for the front system.
The only other options are 0.7 (rears) 0.75 (clutch) 0.85 (oooof) and 1" if you have legs like Ronnie Coleman and can leg press 850kgs in the gym.
Another variable in the mix is the amount of weight you're trying to pull up, the same pedal system from your 8 in Jons westy maybe have different results in terms of stopping distance with the same "lack of feel" or excessive pressure required to even slow down.
You have not suggested this but in case of other readers following this thread and wanting to set the record straight. A popular misconception is servos make brakes better. Nope, the caliper performance, pad compound, disc size remains the same. A servo just reduces the amount of effort required to press the pedal to achieve the same braking performance.
Anyhow, we've mentioned his name.....
Jon? What size m/c's are you running in the westy, and how do find it in a car under 1000 kgs?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 06:06:27 AM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 06:06:27 AM
Westy brakes are awesome!!! Ill have to look in the lever arch file for the specs. I changed the front calipers and discs when i went done to 13". I gave Wilwood the specs as i run a Tilton floor mounted clutch brake that came with the car. The brake part has 2 masters 1 for front 1 for rear with an adjustable balance bar. 2 seperate systems. Ill get numbers and post later.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 12, 2019, 08:54:29 AM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2019, 08:54:29 AM
As you say, some people would not realise the Servo is for pedal pressure assistance only.
The race car was nothing to do with weight as I couldn't stop the thing properly even at 10mph
Jon's cylinder specs should give a base but his caliper pistons will be a different sizes so maybe take that into account,
The race car was nothing to do with weight as I couldn't stop the thing properly even at 10mph
Jon's cylinder specs should give a base but his caliper pistons will be a different sizes so maybe take that into account,
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Yup I can calculate that,
Jon if possible can you let me know the diameter of pistons and whether they are 4 pot calipers etc ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on December 12, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on December 12, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 01:17:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 01:17:48 PM
Indeed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 07:48:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 12, 2019, 07:48:22 PM
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I don’t think that looks too offensive now it’s been levelled off a bit.
Sand a uniform 4mm gap around the perimeter then it’s primer time
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I don’t think that looks too offensive now it’s been levelled off a bit.
Sand a uniform 4mm gap around the perimeter then it’s primer time
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2019, 06:36:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2019, 06:36:48 PM
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Shiny shiny
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2019, 11:23:46 AM
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2019, 11:23:46 AM
Hi mate ref brakes...the info not in my folder
. May have worked its way into some folders in garage...ill have a look in few days when i venture into garage.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 11:29:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 11:29:53 AM
No stress .... as n when
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 14, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 14, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 13, 2019, 06:36:48 PMDon't look too bad tbh
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
Put another 2 coats on this morning.
Block it down flat later.
I’ll make the mould next week.
Picking up my new toy tomorrow
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Block it down flat later.
I’ll make the mould next week.
Picking up my new toy tomorrow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
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Uncovered a couple of high spots but it’s smooth like glass
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2019, 03:25:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2019, 03:25:53 PM
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Gel coat on.
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Gel coat on.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 21, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
Post by: Casey on December 21, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
Looking good Jamie :13:
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Post by: clive on December 22, 2019, 02:15:07 AM
Post by: clive on December 22, 2019, 02:15:07 AM
Another masterpiece :00123101:
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Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2019, 06:02:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2019, 06:02:36 AM
Cheers chaps
I was hoping for the mould to be simple on this one, looks like it's gonna have to be 2 piece so I can it get product out afterwards
I was hoping for the mould to be simple on this one, looks like it's gonna have to be 2 piece so I can it get product out afterwards
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 22, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 22, 2019, 09:00:01 AM
Wow I'm impressed
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Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
Let's not count our chickens yet bud.
Gotta get product out yet, fit the steel structure into the new skin, get the bonnet catches to align and maintain the gaps all round.
Gotta get product out yet, fit the steel structure into the new skin, get the bonnet catches to align and maintain the gaps all round.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 25, 2019, 08:20:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 25, 2019, 08:20:02 AM
Have a very Merry Rotary Xmas all
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:01:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:01:21 AM
Well that’s annoying, come to work on modifying the pedal box to accept the brake and clutch pedal switches and they’re no where to be found. Pffft
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:27:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:27:23 AM
Anyone shed any light.........
...... no not on the where abouts of my switches.
1, Looking at the brake light switch (on t'interweb) it seems just a normal 2 pin switch........ will a universal one suffice?
2, The clutch has a switch im guessing to do something to the idle........... but im noticing it has a second switch which engages when depressed, it this to cancel cruise control or something? Or are both switches required to operate the engine correctly?
Thanks
J
...... no not on the where abouts of my switches.
1, Looking at the brake light switch (on t'interweb) it seems just a normal 2 pin switch........ will a universal one suffice?
2, The clutch has a switch im guessing to do something to the idle........... but im noticing it has a second switch which engages when depressed, it this to cancel cruise control or something? Or are both switches required to operate the engine correctly?
Thanks
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
The brake switch is normally open in the brake pedal off position..when you press the brake an internal spring and plunger come out and the switch closes. And brake lights come on...on newer cars there is another switch for cruise control or summit...not a concern for you.
Also the Pcm has an input from the brake pedal for the pcm 20 brake stomp reset procedure.
Clutch same deal but inputs into pcm to raise rev sorta anti stall inconjuntion with the gearbox neutral switch.
But if going to map it id highly recommend a base idle increase to 1100rpm. An then the clutch switch is redundant.
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Also the Pcm has an input from the brake pedal for the pcm 20 brake stomp reset procedure.
Clutch same deal but inputs into pcm to raise rev sorta anti stall inconjuntion with the gearbox neutral switch.
But if going to map it id highly recommend a base idle increase to 1100rpm. An then the clutch switch is redundant.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
Okies.....
I’ll stick with the stock switches.... already lined up big Pete for some spares as can’t find mine, I’ll cut the brackets off the stock pedal boxes and weld them to the new pedal box
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I’ll stick with the stock switches.... already lined up big Pete for some spares as can’t find mine, I’ll cut the brackets off the stock pedal boxes and weld them to the new pedal box
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 06:17:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 06:17:53 PM
Need a whole assembly that can slide forward n back to suit the shorter driver.
Loud pedal needs to move with it to.
Mocked it up in ply. Will transfer the dims to summat more substantial.
Off to wales tomoz to see in the new year
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Loud pedal needs to move with it to.
Mocked it up in ply. Will transfer the dims to summat more substantial.
Off to wales tomoz to see in the new year
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
Try n get the brake in throttle pedal as close together as poss...and maybe fatten the throttle pedal with some alloy plate to make heel toe easier..i struggled with my little size 8 feet and race boots..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
I’ve seen various techniques.
Do YOU literally put ball of your foot on brake and heel on the loud pedal.
I’ve seen ppl rolling their foot to the right also.
Tbf moving the accelerator closer helps as I can shift the whole assembly to the right the column can run above but between the clutch n brake
OBP do an extended wider brake pedal to make heel n toe easier but I could just move the go faster one inwards
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Do YOU literally put ball of your foot on brake and heel on the loud pedal.
I’ve seen ppl rolling their foot to the right also.
Tbf moving the accelerator closer helps as I can shift the whole assembly to the right the column can run above but between the clutch n brake
OBP do an extended wider brake pedal to make heel n toe easier but I could just move the go faster one inwards
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 09:06:03 PM
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 09:06:03 PM
Soz got engrossed in a film...
My little 8 feet cant do the toe brake heel blip throttle...my ankle joint clicks badly so i brake with big toe and role little toe side of foot onto accelerator. Hence need for closeness.
Plenty of you tube how tos.
Im learning left foot braking at mo as the civic has no lsd...its weird as plenty of feel in tight foot for brake modulation but zero in left foot...
I remember learing to ride a motorbike and it felt alien...but ive not been on a bike for 8 years plus and i just know i could get on and ride....
Try it on way to work?
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My little 8 feet cant do the toe brake heel blip throttle...my ankle joint clicks badly so i brake with big toe and role little toe side of foot onto accelerator. Hence need for closeness.
Plenty of you tube how tos.
Im learning left foot braking at mo as the civic has no lsd...its weird as plenty of feel in tight foot for brake modulation but zero in left foot...
I remember learing to ride a motorbike and it felt alien...but ive not been on a bike for 8 years plus and i just know i could get on and ride....
Try it on way to work?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:20:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 09:20:38 PM
Yeah I've tried down the lanes and just face planted the steering wheel trying to" blip the brake" or rev the tits off it on hard braking lol
It's not impressive in front of people......
.... Practice makes perfect I guess
It's not impressive in front of people......
.... Practice makes perfect I guess
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 10:35:32 PM
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2019, 10:35:32 PM
Thing is never needed it other than mechanical sympathy until i got the westy....then thing was frustratingly undrivable as every time on track braking and downshifting to enter a corner id brake downshift turn in and then rear would lock and sideways...
Not very fast atall lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 07:26:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 07:26:27 AM
I suppose as a rotary it likes to rev anyway. It's not like your gonna jump a tooth on a cam belt when you let the clutch out. Locking up the back end is summat completely out there..... You need to eat a few more turkeys buddy and keep it planted lol.
Once perfected I'm sure it's very satisfying.
The amount of cars on the roads today makes it nigh on impossible to find a stretch of road to be able to be hard on the brakes for the next corner without Doris in her Citroen c1 getting in the way and start indicating left and then turning right, then becoming a victim of my vile temper and you realise it's probably not her fault. We've all followed a French turd with dodgy electrics.
The roads around Rhayader going out over elan valley (see what I did there? ) are impressive. But the Welsh authorities do love a speed camera or three. Not being derogatory Wayne, but having coppers in the family and the stories I hear, I'm sure a few Welsh coppers have bets on how many English drivers they can book in a month loll.
One thing I have noticed with the 8 is it wants you to lose your licence lol. It wants to rev, you want to oblige and you find yourself breaking the law in every gear. If when you get to 60 or 70 and you lift off, instead of a buzzer from the car you almost hear a little sigh of disappointment. The 8 is like the naughty kid who used to live down the road that your parents hated. He dares you to do it, and you do, then you get in trouble, and he sherks the responsibility onto you....
Anyway, I'm now warbling, it's time to get up and have some meds
Once perfected I'm sure it's very satisfying.
The amount of cars on the roads today makes it nigh on impossible to find a stretch of road to be able to be hard on the brakes for the next corner without Doris in her Citroen c1 getting in the way and start indicating left and then turning right, then becoming a victim of my vile temper and you realise it's probably not her fault. We've all followed a French turd with dodgy electrics.
The roads around Rhayader going out over elan valley (see what I did there? ) are impressive. But the Welsh authorities do love a speed camera or three. Not being derogatory Wayne, but having coppers in the family and the stories I hear, I'm sure a few Welsh coppers have bets on how many English drivers they can book in a month loll.
One thing I have noticed with the 8 is it wants you to lose your licence lol. It wants to rev, you want to oblige and you find yourself breaking the law in every gear. If when you get to 60 or 70 and you lift off, instead of a buzzer from the car you almost hear a little sigh of disappointment. The 8 is like the naughty kid who used to live down the road that your parents hated. He dares you to do it, and you do, then you get in trouble, and he sherks the responsibility onto you....
Anyway, I'm now warbling, it's time to get up and have some meds
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2019, 08:19:10 AM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2019, 08:19:10 AM
When getting right position for those pedals, if you are going to do heal and toe thingie, remember that your are braking allready when you try to flip accelerator...
Bugger, that sounded weird...
I mean, accelerator should be positioned quite low when its off. Dammit! I cant explain it...
If you are allready on the brake pedal, you foot just wont go so up high...
Dammit!!! I just cant explain what I mean, hope you understand my point?
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Bugger, that sounded weird...
I mean, accelerator should be positioned quite low when its off. Dammit! I cant explain it...
If you are allready on the brake pedal, you foot just wont go so up high...
Dammit!!! I just cant explain what I mean, hope you understand my point?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2019, 08:25:51 AM
My opinion is that, that accelator pedal should be in vertical position. And a bit further front of the brake pedal. However, when you at full throttle, it goes to weird position, so some kind of hinge thingie is needed.
Anyhoo, heal and toe is quite hard to master correctly, so wouldnt worry about that...
Also Jon said about left foot braking. In track racing, especially with rear wheel drive cars it isnt so important...
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Anyhoo, heal and toe is quite hard to master correctly, so wouldnt worry about that...
Also Jon said about left foot braking. In track racing, especially with rear wheel drive cars it isnt so important...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 11:06:03 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 27, 2019, 07:18:03 PMI’d get the Bigger throttle pedal base . I put the OMP one on my 8 , don’t put the throttle pedal too close to the brake mind . I did just that , hit the brakes hard going into bobbies at the RX8 OC track day earlier this year , big size 12 also caught the throttle sending the car sideways towards the big tyres on entry .it was rather close lol , straight back to pits move it back 10 mm and it was much better , 12 mm was perfect . As Mr boasted said , it also depend on size of foot , footwear etc . I only heel on downshift braking to keep the rear a bit more stable
I’ve seen various techniques.
Do YOU literally put ball of your foot on brake and heel on the loud pedal.
I’ve seen ppl rolling their foot to the right also.
Tbf moving the accelerator closer helps as I can shift the whole assembly to the right the column can run above but between the clutch n brake
OBP do an extended wider brake pedal to make heel n toe easier but I could just move the go faster one inwards
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 11:27:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 11:27:24 AM
Thanks Wayne, jarno, and Jon.
I'll have a play in the new year.
Gotta make an aluminium tray to mount it all on first.
I hate chequer plate in cars, but it's the only piece large enough I have laying around that will do.
Mounting these pedals on a piece of 1.2mm thick fibreglass floor ain't gonna do much in terms of feel and is probably dangerous .....
I'll have a play in the new year.
Gotta make an aluminium tray to mount it all on first.
I hate chequer plate in cars, but it's the only piece large enough I have laying around that will do.
Mounting these pedals on a piece of 1.2mm thick fibreglass floor ain't gonna do much in terms of feel and is probably dangerous .....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
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Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 28, 2019, 02:34:04 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2019, 02:34:04 PM
OK, this will be like teaching granny how to suck eggs, but I have said this to many people many times.
Having built many cars from a body shell upwards, to me the very first job is getting the seat, pedals and steering wheel in the correct position, because changes after can be difficult and obviously if the three items aren't suited to you then you will not drive the car comfortably and more importantly "quickly"
Even on the RX-8 I remember making three sets of seat brackets before I was happy with the position.
I also use a packer on top of the brake pedal.
Years ago with throttle cables I even used to change pivot positions so I could feel the throttle how I wanted.
Having built many cars from a body shell upwards, to me the very first job is getting the seat, pedals and steering wheel in the correct position, because changes after can be difficult and obviously if the three items aren't suited to you then you will not drive the car comfortably and more importantly "quickly"
Even on the RX-8 I remember making three sets of seat brackets before I was happy with the position.
I also use a packer on top of the brake pedal.
Years ago with throttle cables I even used to change pivot positions so I could feel the throttle how I wanted.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 02:38:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 02:38:08 PM
No Clive it’s a very valid point.
Wish I had thought of it earlier. Certainly before making the cage. I would have done it differently around my head. Anyway ....
The build is a toss up between getting the body mounted properly and trying to think 10 steps ahead of what gets affected by each build stage.
The biggest issue with this build is the sheer lack of space with a lotus and trying to cram all the parts from a modern car in it.
We will get there.....
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Wish I had thought of it earlier. Certainly before making the cage. I would have done it differently around my head. Anyway ....
The build is a toss up between getting the body mounted properly and trying to think 10 steps ahead of what gets affected by each build stage.
The biggest issue with this build is the sheer lack of space with a lotus and trying to cram all the parts from a modern car in it.
We will get there.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 29, 2019, 06:40:48 AM
Post by: re japi on December 29, 2019, 06:40:48 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
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Thats a good plan. But still, you have to figure out some kind of joint or something to that pedal, cause when in full throttle, that pedal goes to weird position... :)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 07:43:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 07:43:07 AM
Quote from: re japi on December 29, 2019, 06:40:48 AMQuote from: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
So idea.....
Rather than move the accelerator further back to go even further into the headers I’ll make a jig to locate the pedal position on relation to the brake on the 8.
Rotate the accelerator about the pedal and move the mounting forward which allows me to easily move the pedal back and give clearance on the headers.... the wiring for the fly by wire can then stay in the cockpit.
Thats a good plan. But still, you have to figure out some kind of joint or something to that pedal, cause when in full throttle, that pedal goes to weird position... :)
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.........or a mad scientist......
Ok so I have a white jacket with really long sleeves........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 29, 2019, 12:15:34 PM
Post by: Casey on December 29, 2019, 12:15:34 PM
Jamie, the Mad Scientist.........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Lol! what a handsome fellow
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
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Home till Thursday
Stuck our own gazebo over the hot tub
Gotta love a bit of Wales
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 29, 2019, 01:20:33 PM
Post by: clive on December 29, 2019, 01:20:33 PM
Just a thought,
To gain more room in the footwell, maybe if you mount the pedals upside down you can get the pedal pads closer to the floor and also lower the throttle pedal assembly ?.
If nothing else it may give a more comfortable driving position.
To gain more room in the footwell, maybe if you mount the pedals upside down you can get the pedal pads closer to the floor and also lower the throttle pedal assembly ?.
If nothing else it may give a more comfortable driving position.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 04:15:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 04:15:54 PM
I like the thought, unfortunately I had to buy floor mounted pedals with the m/c’s cockpit mounted.
The roll cage actually serves several purposes outside of the obvious of roll over protection. It also ties the steel sill members back to the backbone chassis with 6 transverse bars across the floor. One of which is at the furthest forward area at the bottom of the bulkhead.
This is the reason for m/c’s poking back into the cockpit.
The second reason for my choice of pedal box is the shape of my bulkhead.
Most cars, the bulkhead comes straight up from the floor to the bottom of the windscreen.
On the old elan ( and the baby elan and the Anglia 105e) the bulkhead is stepped.
It comes up, back towards the driver then up again. As per photo.
Admittedly the original lotus pedal box was top hung ( see the rectangular hole in the highlighted circle) but it wasn’t the best and flexed.
Thrown into the mix..... a renesis engine.
Yup I take on your point fully of driver position and 100% agree.
My only option with this chassis/body/engine combo was to bring the headers up into the engine bay taking up the room once used by a pedal box.
Believe me I spent hours under the car trying to run 3 pipes 38mm in diameter under the car, around the gearbox. Didn’t work.
It won’t beat me Clive. I WILL have this driving position comfier than a velvet chaise lounge in a Thai massage parlour
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The roll cage actually serves several purposes outside of the obvious of roll over protection. It also ties the steel sill members back to the backbone chassis with 6 transverse bars across the floor. One of which is at the furthest forward area at the bottom of the bulkhead.
This is the reason for m/c’s poking back into the cockpit.
The second reason for my choice of pedal box is the shape of my bulkhead.
Most cars, the bulkhead comes straight up from the floor to the bottom of the windscreen.
On the old elan ( and the baby elan and the Anglia 105e) the bulkhead is stepped.
It comes up, back towards the driver then up again. As per photo.
Admittedly the original lotus pedal box was top hung ( see the rectangular hole in the highlighted circle) but it wasn’t the best and flexed.
Thrown into the mix..... a renesis engine.
Yup I take on your point fully of driver position and 100% agree.
My only option with this chassis/body/engine combo was to bring the headers up into the engine bay taking up the room once used by a pedal box.
Believe me I spent hours under the car trying to run 3 pipes 38mm in diameter under the car, around the gearbox. Didn’t work.
It won’t beat me Clive. I WILL have this driving position comfier than a velvet chaise lounge in a Thai massage parlour
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 29, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Post by: boosted on December 29, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 29, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
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Stuck our own gazebo over the hot tub
Gotta love a bit of Wales
looks lovely and some great roads too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 12:45:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 12:45:59 PM
Typical English tourists
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 12:46:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 12:46:26 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 01:29:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 01:29:39 PM
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Anyone hazard a guess ??
Bet Wayne will know .....
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Bet Wayne will know .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 30, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 30, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
I wouldn’t I’m South . Your probably quite north , only been up that far once in last 10’years and that was to Anglesey circuit in the summer . If you are north , parthmaddog is real nice , well looked it driving though lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
Wales?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 02:01:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 02:01:07 PM
Aberystwyth..... we’re doing “antiques roadshow†as were taking the in-laws out. Borth next and then ynyslas
Rock n roll baby
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2019, 02:06:02 PM
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2019, 02:06:02 PM
Nice scenerys
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
I’ve seen it all now..... a mountain bike cyclist with his right leg amputated at the groin. What if he leans the wrong way ???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 30, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Post by: Casey on December 30, 2019, 09:29:59 PM
Nice scenery around those parts :great:
We did a trip to Aber (Gwyn's parents hail from there), taking in the Elan Valley, back in 2010. Great driving roads for the RX-8!
We did a trip to Aber (Gwyn's parents hail from there), taking in the Elan Valley, back in 2010. Great driving roads for the RX-8!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 30, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
Yup , went through the valley to collect the Subaru, definitely coming back in the 8.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
There is a very strong possibility I shall be getting twisted on homemade damson gin and other bladder loosening liquids in the hot tub later, so....
Just wanted to thank all who have given help, advice, encouragement and needless to say inspiration on my project build over the past 12 months.
This year has been much more involved than anticipated, with bodywork n crap. I'm hoping for the next 12 months to see it with paint on and a fresh engine in place.
On that note, have a super 2020 everyone, and happy big birthday Mazda.
J.
Just wanted to thank all who have given help, advice, encouragement and needless to say inspiration on my project build over the past 12 months.
This year has been much more involved than anticipated, with bodywork n crap. I'm hoping for the next 12 months to see it with paint on and a fresh engine in place.
On that note, have a super 2020 everyone, and happy big birthday Mazda.
J.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 31, 2019, 06:22:18 PM
Post by: Casey on December 31, 2019, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 31, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
....and happy big birthday Mazda.
Ah, you spotted my forum header handiwork then? ;)
Enjoy the hot tub and boozy evening :occasion16:
We have yet to crack open a bottle of champagne, currently chilling in the fridge, so that will go down nicely later for a quiet evening at home.
I've thoroughly enjoyed watching progress on your project Jamie, and admired your fabrication skills :You_Rock_Emoticon:
Wishing you, Emma and family a very Happy 2020 :occasion18: :occasion18:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 04, 2020, 01:51:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 04, 2020, 01:51:38 PM
Ahhhhh civilisation or at least through this forum.
Nearly spent 24 hours in bed. Freezing cold and shivering yet dripping with sweat, bed soaked ugh it’s minging.
Had water flying out of every orifice all night. Ugh. Just started to feel slightly more human.
Must be the welsh water lol
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Nearly spent 24 hours in bed. Freezing cold and shivering yet dripping with sweat, bed soaked ugh it’s minging.
Had water flying out of every orifice all night. Ugh. Just started to feel slightly more human.
Must be the welsh water lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 05:13:45 PM
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 05:13:45 PM
You been chatting up the sheep?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 04, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 04, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
Lol summat like that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Modded the pedal box some more.
Cut the tabs off the 8 pedal boxes and grafted them on to my pedal box. Original switches just click into place as per stock.
Got my accelerator in the right position now as per the 8 set up.
I just need to remake the whole lot again in something more substantial than wood.
I don’t think I’m convincing anyone that this is a Morgan
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Cut the tabs off the 8 pedal boxes and grafted them on to my pedal box. Original switches just click into place as per stock.
Got my accelerator in the right position now as per the 8 set up.
I just need to remake the whole lot again in something more substantial than wood.
I don’t think I’m convincing anyone that this is a Morgan
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 05, 2020, 06:18:09 PM
Post by: clive on January 05, 2020, 06:18:09 PM
There you go, you have already started your non bodywork year :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
Ah won’t last long, got another 20 litres of resin turning up tomorrow.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
20 litresLähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 07:08:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 05, 2020, 07:08:54 PM
Got through about 80 litres so far lol.
Dashboard
Centre console
Floor mods
4 wings
4 inner wings
Boot floor
Diffuser
Spoiler
Soon get through it when you have to make moulds as well
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Dashboard
Centre console
Floor mods
4 wings
4 inner wings
Boot floor
Diffuser
Spoiler
Soon get through it when you have to make moulds as well
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
Bugger
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:26:55 PM
Well....
Back on it, like a car bonnet...... literally.
One of the hardest parts I’ve had to de-mould. So much surface area all gripping.
Look at that definition and crisp edges on the renesis shape
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Back on it, like a car bonnet...... literally.
One of the hardest parts I’ve had to de-mould. So much surface area all gripping.
Look at that definition and crisp edges on the renesis shape
I’ve impressed myself lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200107/9e4172065a9eea851d70e9cd9b516077.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:27:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:27:08 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:28:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2020, 04:28:29 PM
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The only thing that hurts more than heartache is an inch fibreglass splinter that goes up behind your fingernail
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 07, 2020, 10:29:40 PM
Post by: Casey on January 07, 2020, 10:29:40 PM
Ouch!
Bonnet work looking great though :sign0098:
Bonnet work looking great though :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2020, 07:28:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2020, 07:28:14 PM
Question......
So had the rear tyres light up a couple of times in the 8 and the trusty dsc kicked in.
Assuming this is monitored by the wheel sensors, I’m wanting to know how it is controlled???
Does the ecu kill ignition to suppress engine power or does the braking system control it or both?
I’m asking because I’m not running wheel sensors in the rotus because I’m not running the stock brake set up so abs etc is out the window.
If it just kills the ignition I may consider refitting wheel sensors.
Power to weight will be higher in the lighter car and while I’m all for stripping a car back to its bare essentials. I don’t want to leave this planet spinning 720 degrees and turning into a big ball of fire on my first bend of spirited driving.....
Just wondered how Jon’s westy is on traction on the rear end on the throttle ???
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So had the rear tyres light up a couple of times in the 8 and the trusty dsc kicked in.
Assuming this is monitored by the wheel sensors, I’m wanting to know how it is controlled???
Does the ecu kill ignition to suppress engine power or does the braking system control it or both?
I’m asking because I’m not running wheel sensors in the rotus because I’m not running the stock brake set up so abs etc is out the window.
If it just kills the ignition I may consider refitting wheel sensors.
Power to weight will be higher in the lighter car and while I’m all for stripping a car back to its bare essentials. I don’t want to leave this planet spinning 720 degrees and turning into a big ball of fire on my first bend of spirited driving.....
Just wondered how Jon’s westy is on traction on the rear end on the throttle ???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 09, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
In that situation the throttle is closing itself off to limit the wheel spin
I ended up disconnecting my wheel sensors on the race car as the car had no power even going along the straights ;)
I ended up disconnecting my wheel sensors on the race car as the car had no power even going along the straights ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 08:43:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 08:43:31 AM
Ah ok so if it controls the throttle then the refit of sensors may be an option.
I’m certainly not in your hp league so I doubt I’ll be lighting wheels up on the straights
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
In part answer to your query Jamie.
It was a weird experience on a skidpan in my RX-8 shortly after I bought the car. An instructor asked me to deliberately get the car into a spin and then FLOOR THE THROTTLE ??? (but with DSC fully on ;)). I thought that's madness, but sure enough, ZERO response to the throttle whilst the DSC corrected the spin by independently braking on the wheels. Felt really weird that the engine just wouldn't rev whilst the DSC was sorting out the issue. It was massively educational to have multiple runs down the skidpan with the DSC on and then off to see just how clever the system was. Not foolproof, but was far better than me at controlling the skid until I got the hang of my first RWD car!
It was a weird experience on a skidpan in my RX-8 shortly after I bought the car. An instructor asked me to deliberately get the car into a spin and then FLOOR THE THROTTLE ??? (but with DSC fully on ;)). I thought that's madness, but sure enough, ZERO response to the throttle whilst the DSC corrected the spin by independently braking on the wheels. Felt really weird that the engine just wouldn't rev whilst the DSC was sorting out the issue. It was massively educational to have multiple runs down the skidpan with the DSC on and then off to see just how clever the system was. Not foolproof, but was far better than me at controlling the skid until I got the hang of my first RWD car!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
Ahhh so it does work through the brakes also.
That will explain the block connector that goes to the aluminium housing that all the brake lines go to in the engine bay.
Thanks for the response Malcolm.
Ok so at least I can get partial driver assistance maybe. Sounds like a bit of trial and error and keeping the wiring for the wheel sensors. I may have to introduce some fudge factor to fool the ecu for the omission of the aluminium brake module thingy.
Or learn how to control my right foot better on the accelerator
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That will explain the block connector that goes to the aluminium housing that all the brake lines go to in the engine bay.
Thanks for the response Malcolm.
Ok so at least I can get partial driver assistance maybe. Sounds like a bit of trial and error and keeping the wiring for the wheel sensors. I may have to introduce some fudge factor to fool the ecu for the omission of the aluminium brake module thingy.
Or learn how to control my right foot better on the accelerator
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 10:39:59 AM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 10:39:59 AM
Strip it all out and stop being a big Nancy!!! The systems are set up for an rx8 and i believe would prob be detrimental on the Rotus as they turn out tobeon Clives car when the power doubled.
Westy has none thats what makes it great.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 10:42:18 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 10:42:18 AM
Lol just future proofing
I’ve made too many project vehicles where I’ve stripped everything down to the bare essentials and gone....... oh if only I had done xyz.
A Nancy boy it is then
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I’ve made too many project vehicles where I’ve stripped everything down to the bare essentials and gone....... oh if only I had done xyz.
A Nancy boy it is then
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:12:20 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:12:20 PM
Mmm not sure how gonna do that?...not abs but retain traction control?.
Ill have to look at drawings...i expect the signal to cut throttle comes from abs to pcm via canbus. So youd need x4 working abs sensors...the abs block would need to see pedal pressure else it will fault...
Mmmm thinking cap on.
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Ill have to look at drawings...i expect the signal to cut throttle comes from abs to pcm via canbus. So youd need x4 working abs sensors...the abs block would need to see pedal pressure else it will fault...
Mmmm thinking cap on.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:21:11 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:21:11 PM
Aluminium block thingy....with loads of wires? Thats the abs module...all the wheel speed sensors go there among other things...
If has an internal pressure sensor and if that is showing zero will fault...
Maybe simpler to retain whole lot use the block....your pedal box dual or single master?....as the abs module set the front rear bias also....
Lots of headaches Nancy!!!
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If has an internal pressure sensor and if that is showing zero will fault...
Maybe simpler to retain whole lot use the block....your pedal box dual or single master?....as the abs module set the front rear bias also....
Lots of headaches Nancy!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:26:17 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:26:17 PM
Needs Paul input as hes retained the abs dsc etc...youll need the yaw and the steering angle sensor 2 me thinks...
Ill get my head in drawings later.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 12:43:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 12:43:31 PM
Don’t stress about it. I was looking for a simple fix. My immediate intention at the start is rip the whole lot out.
It’s only recently I’ve noticed how easy it is to get the dsc to kick in on the 8.
If it all too complicated I’ll just train my right foot on the gas or feather it out of bends.
If it was a simple set up of just controlling the throttle body that’s one thing, if brakes are involved I’m not putting the complete stock set up back on there is physically no room
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It’s only recently I’ve noticed how easy it is to get the dsc to kick in on the 8.
If it all too complicated I’ll just train my right foot on the gas or feather it out of bends.
If it was a simple set up of just controlling the throttle body that’s one thing, if brakes are involved I’m not putting the complete stock set up back on there is physically no room
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:47:45 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:47:45 PM
Its prob your rear tyres on the 8....my Westy on the road will only step out if i provoke it...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 12:54:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 12:54:03 PM
Oh to be fair, they are probably some Chang sung specials with badly perished side walls and are as hard as nails
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:59:13 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 12:59:13 PM
Yep thatll do it...maybe see whats on front and if better swap front to rear...my s type from tim was on budgets ...i swapped the car onto team dyanamic with et50 offset and bridgestones...handled mega then on the road...no so on track s type jdm import very soft suspension...it need a keel and come...i feel out of seat lean so bad.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 01:18:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 01:18:00 PM
I was gonna get the stock alloys refurbed on the 8 and get new tyres at the same time, secondly, they will do for putting wets on for the lotus.
Getting the whole car valeted inside n out on the 16th, so Ill get the alloys done after.
any opinion on colour.... Strato Blue with either Dark grey, satin black, or a bronze/gold? I really dislike the stock silver
Getting the whole car valeted inside n out on the 16th, so Ill get the alloys done after.
any opinion on colour.... Strato Blue with either Dark grey, satin black, or a bronze/gold? I really dislike the stock silver
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
I have one set of satin black wheels and one set of glossy dark grey, which I think work well with the titanium grey.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
Gloss black.!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
White looks nice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
White ?? Reminds me of the old compomotive MO’s they fitted to rally cars.
I’ll google it to see some examples..... I don’t think I’m that brave to be honest Wayne lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 05:19:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 05:19:52 PM
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Better than I thought to be honest Wayne
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 05:24:32 PM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2020, 05:24:32 PM
White looks nice .......for 5 mins...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 06:53:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2020, 06:53:50 PM
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Gold a bit chav tastic?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2020, 08:10:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2020, 08:10:57 PM
Bonnet done with a couple of extra ducts.
Steel work back on.
There’s 2 aluminium dowels that go into 2 adjustable plates.
Just gotta adjust all the heights
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Steel work back on.
There’s 2 aluminium dowels that go into 2 adjustable plates.
Just gotta adjust all the heights
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2020, 08:15:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2020, 08:15:27 PM
Phone playing up,
couple more
couple more
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:06 PM
Adjusted and on. And I can see exhaust through the extra vents (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200114/ab1f3cb6f61534f2de1da12c22e5ab21.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:28 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
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Post by: Casey on January 14, 2020, 08:29:12 PM
Post by: Casey on January 14, 2020, 08:29:12 PM
That'll certainly get the air straight to the right places by the looks of it!
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Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
Indeed. I’m getting the exhaust pipes in the engine bay ceramic coated but every bit of cooling helps.
Hopefully the high pressure in the engine bay will help push cool air down the transmission tunnel and keep the gearbox cool.
More vents going in on the aluminium floor too to help with the gearbox.
Already one in the diffuser for the differential.
Trying to think of as many things now before I finish it and have to start choppin n changing after.
Slow n steady will win this race
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Hopefully the high pressure in the engine bay will help push cool air down the transmission tunnel and keep the gearbox cool.
More vents going in on the aluminium floor too to help with the gearbox.
Already one in the diffuser for the differential.
Trying to think of as many things now before I finish it and have to start choppin n changing after.
Slow n steady will win this race
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
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False floor / pedal box complete.
Nice n rigid and lightweight.
70mm fore and aft adjustment for shorties and 25mm side to side adjustment.
Got the pedal relationship set up like the 8
Feels comfy too
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False floor / pedal box complete.
Nice n rigid and lightweight.
70mm fore and aft adjustment for shorties and 25mm side to side adjustment.
Got the pedal relationship set up like the 8
Feels comfy too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 17, 2020, 06:29:57 PM
Post by: Casey on January 17, 2020, 06:29:57 PM
Nice metalwork Jamie :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Casey on January 17, 2020, 06:29:57 PM
Nice metalwork Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Makes a change from plastic pig material lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 17, 2020, 10:25:39 PM
Post by: clive on January 17, 2020, 10:25:39 PM
I like the idea of the sotted floor so you can adjust the assembly fore and aft :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 05:02:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 05:02:06 AM
Thanks Clive :icon_thumleft:
I originally started planning little screw jacks on all thread with a tiny electric motor from a drill.
But it would need guides to slide down. All sounds too complicated. So 3 cup square bolts so they dont turn in slots is quick and lightweight.
I stole the idea of a moving pedal box from a pic I saw of a chassis from a new Morgan 3 wheeler. But they had pre determined positions, not slots. Looked like the bolts come through the underside of the floor too.....not ideal.
I really hate chequer plate, but I have loads of it lying around, and it really works by gripping the pedal box when I tighten the bolts and stop it sliding backwards when pressing the brake hard. I dare say you don't want the pedal box moving when going down the road.
Again space is expensive real estate here. The dog leg bends to the right of the accelerator allow the pedal box to fit past the roll cage and give me space for my hooves.
I'll take some more pics when it's in situ.
I originally started planning little screw jacks on all thread with a tiny electric motor from a drill.
But it would need guides to slide down. All sounds too complicated. So 3 cup square bolts so they dont turn in slots is quick and lightweight.
I stole the idea of a moving pedal box from a pic I saw of a chassis from a new Morgan 3 wheeler. But they had pre determined positions, not slots. Looked like the bolts come through the underside of the floor too.....not ideal.
I really hate chequer plate, but I have loads of it lying around, and it really works by gripping the pedal box when I tighten the bolts and stop it sliding backwards when pressing the brake hard. I dare say you don't want the pedal box moving when going down the road.
Again space is expensive real estate here. The dog leg bends to the right of the accelerator allow the pedal box to fit past the roll cage and give me space for my hooves.
I'll take some more pics when it's in situ.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
Heres a few shots
Closest to driver and over 25mm to the left to miss the roll cage.
Furthest back and over to the right so the steering column goes above but between the clutch and brake so theres no risk of contact when you press the pedals.
Need to make a new flitch in the engine bay to cover it all up now ive got clearances, and also miss the headers......
Closest to driver and over 25mm to the left to miss the roll cage.
Furthest back and over to the right so the steering column goes above but between the clutch and brake so theres no risk of contact when you press the pedals.
Need to make a new flitch in the engine bay to cover it all up now ive got clearances, and also miss the headers......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 18, 2020, 09:04:48 AM
Post by: boosted on January 18, 2020, 09:04:48 AM
looking smart mate. :) :sign0098:
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Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 09:46:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 09:46:55 AM
Cheers Jon.........
..... just wanna drive the bloody thing
..... just wanna drive the bloody thing
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Post by: Casey on January 18, 2020, 09:51:23 AM
Post by: Casey on January 18, 2020, 09:51:23 AM
Really neat looking Jamie :13:
seriously :sign0098:
seriously :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 18, 2020, 09:57:29 AM
Post by: boosted on January 18, 2020, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 09:46:55 AMI know that feeling all to well...time and patience and attention to detail means less niggles and teething problem later on as you well know.
Cheers Jon.........
..... just wanna drive the bloody thing
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 03:49:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2020, 03:49:14 PM
Filled my hole up, oooo errrrr missus
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 03:28:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 03:28:50 PM
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What a diff 24 hours makes. Yesterday a grotty gaping hole.
Small pin hole repair on the corner and cut a hole for a an access panel.
Yeah I know..... fill one huge hole to cut out another lol
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What a diff 24 hours makes. Yesterday a grotty gaping hole.
Small pin hole repair on the corner and cut a hole for a an access panel.
Yeah I know..... fill one huge hole to cut out another lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 03:29:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 03:29:51 PM
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Some silicone and rivets will sort that
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Some silicone and rivets will sort that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 04:45:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2020, 04:45:09 PM
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Recycling , upcycling, reducing my carbon foot print, bodging,
The 8’s fuel filler flap lever and cable mounted somewhere near the original will open the boot lid
#skinflint
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Recycling , upcycling, reducing my carbon foot print, bodging,
The 8’s fuel filler flap lever and cable mounted somewhere near the original will open the boot lid
#skinflint
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2020, 01:14:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2020, 01:14:08 PM
So..... one of the bad things about this build that is suddenly getting apparent..........
Stock Lotus trim parts are £££££££££
2 bits of steel that hold the 1/4 light glass in place ... LH and RH ..... £90+VAT
pffffttttt
dont even have a decent original as a pattern to make one from. bite the bullet on that one
Stock Lotus trim parts are £££££££££
2 bits of steel that hold the 1/4 light glass in place ... LH and RH ..... £90+VAT
pffffttttt
dont even have a decent original as a pattern to make one from. bite the bullet on that one
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 22, 2020, 05:07:25 PM
Post by: boosted on January 22, 2020, 05:07:25 PM
Tiger seal the 1/4 glass in..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2020, 05:34:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2020, 05:34:36 PM
Too late already purchased
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
Sorry if it’s all gone in here
Lots happening just busy with the pattern for the rad vent.
It’s not the most optimum and perfect shape, but it works with the confines of the small front end.
Chuck the hot air out above the bonnet and not into the engine bay
It will be one clearer when fitted
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Lots happening just busy with the pattern for the rad vent.
It’s not the most optimum and perfect shape, but it works with the confines of the small front end.
Chuck the hot air out above the bonnet and not into the engine bay
It will be one clearer when fitted
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 07:09:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 07:09:33 PM
Sorry new phone............
..... Tapatalk posted the pic at about 3 zillion terabytes
..... Tapatalk posted the pic at about 3 zillion terabytes
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Boobies again
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 08:03:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2020, 08:03:48 PM
Hooray for boobies !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on January 30, 2020, 09:53:49 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on January 30, 2020, 09:53:49 PM
Boobies!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 31, 2020, 07:11:10 AM
Post by: re japi on January 31, 2020, 07:11:10 AM
Booooooobieeeeeesssss :P :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 01, 2020, 07:15:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 01, 2020, 07:15:26 AM
So my boobies are primed, blocked and waxed.
Gel coat next then the itchy stuff......
No mould required for this. The GRP laid on this pattern will be the product.
Nice and smooth on the inside of the vent
Gel coat next then the itchy stuff......
No mould required for this. The GRP laid on this pattern will be the product.
Nice and smooth on the inside of the vent
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2020, 07:58:25 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2020, 07:58:25 AM
Lol owned 1 but never driven 1.
My first rotary experience was a passenger ride in a FC turbo convertible. Went like stink compared to my Nissan Sunny Gti lol.
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My first rotary experience was a passenger ride in a FC turbo convertible. Went like stink compared to my Nissan Sunny Gti lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 02, 2020, 07:58:25 AM
Lol owned 1 but never driven 1.
My first rotary experience was a passenger ride in a FC turbo convertible. Went like stink compared to my Nissan Sunny Gti lol.
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It’s reaallllyyy retro inside but still tasteful.
The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2020, 08:11:44 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2020, 08:11:44 AM
My mate who had the fc..used to drive the fc off the driveway to the road to get his fzr600 out to go for a ride. Then the FC would not start....the time b4 internet...
He got rid of it becuase of that...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2020, 06:09:10 PM
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2020, 06:09:10 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
Yep, it's a really tacky sounding buzzer, after you've got used to the smooth RX-8 version!
Good to hear you've got to drive an FB Jamie. :icon_thumleft:
Did you notice the rather poor steering, given there is no rack, just a box?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 06:37:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 02, 2020, 06:09:10 PMQuote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
The funniest thing is the redline buzzer.
The tone is just like an 80s quiz show when the contestant gets the question wrong. Lol
It’s more aggressive than the 8s buzzer haha
Yep, it's a really tacky sounding buzzer, after you've got used to the smooth RX-8 version!
Good to hear you've got to drive an FB Jamie. :icon_thumleft:
Did you notice the rather poor steering, given there is no rack, just a box?
Sorry Malcolm I should have worded it better. I wasn’t behind the wheel. Just out for a drive . Although I was offered. I declined because I’d feel awful if the worst happened.
The driver was (James GT)..... his white fb. I think it’s a series 3 ???? ‘85, ‘86 maybe.
Didn’t have the delight of the steering box although I’ve driven an anglia, so just as bad no doubt.
I was in the area so we were chewing the fat over doing a lightweight grp roof skin so he can delete the sunroof on his yellow one. He’s prepping it in readiness for some classic car championship.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
:icon_thumleft: Ah, the passenger experience :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 02, 2020, 07:16:37 PM
Post by: clive on February 02, 2020, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Power to Weight ratio n all that.
If your liking an older Rotary, your really coming over to the dark side now ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:18:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: clive on February 02, 2020, 07:16:37 PMI’ve always preferred the old Skool look of the rotary, certainly in comparison to the renesis. Beehive oil cooler/warmer under the filter.Quote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Had my first drive out in an FB yesterday.
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Lots of quirks which just adds to the overall charm :icon_thumright:
Power to Weight ratio n all that.
If your liking an older Rotary, your really coming over to the dark side now ;D ;D
I thought pistons were the dark side lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2020, 07:25:24 AM
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2020, 07:25:24 AM
I just love FBs. My passion for rotarys started because of FB. 
Even tho that steering is, well crap, that car still is superior compared to any other produced in that era...
Even tho that little 12A might be low on power, behiviour of that engine is awesome, she just wanna rev...
Suspension and chassis of FB is unbelievable. Even with that shite steering box. You can go to corners like nutcase and survive not to mention how good that chassis is on gravel
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Even tho that steering is, well crap, that car still is superior compared to any other produced in that era...
Even tho that little 12A might be low on power, behiviour of that engine is awesome, she just wanna rev...
Suspension and chassis of FB is unbelievable. Even with that shite steering box. You can go to corners like nutcase and survive
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on February 03, 2020, 07:16:44 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on February 03, 2020, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Wait til we got for a spin in the turbo, bro! ;) Can hardly hear the buzzer over the wastegate screamer pipe >:D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 07:33:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: Hobbawobba on February 03, 2020, 07:16:44 PMGet that back axle in Jesse, summer is coming, oh and you need to get on the track at jdm tooQuote from: Jamie R on February 02, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
Pleasantly surprised with the performance. Stock 12a goes well.
Wait til we got for a spin in the turbo, bro! ;) Can hardly hear the buzzer over the wastegate screamer pipe >:D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 07:46:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 07:46:49 PM
So, we've mutilated the fans and shroud, to get the product off.
But my boob job is done !!!
Some more sanding and tarting up on the outside required before primer. But inside nice and smooth.
Holes to cut in it yet for the radiator air to come out, but Ill do that after.
Fitted to the spare fans Ive got, fits a treat :13:
In case anyone was wondering, the air filter goes up the big hole in the centre so only cool air goes in that and the hot air goes outside.
Happy days.
But my boob job is done !!!
Some more sanding and tarting up on the outside required before primer. But inside nice and smooth.
Holes to cut in it yet for the radiator air to come out, but Ill do that after.
Fitted to the spare fans Ive got, fits a treat :13:
In case anyone was wondering, the air filter goes up the big hole in the centre so only cool air goes in that and the hot air goes outside.
Happy days.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Why have you got a picture of a pedestral drill on the wall?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 08:18:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2020, 08:18:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 03, 2020, 08:10:09 PM
Why have you got a picture of a pedestral drill on the wall?
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I REALLY like drills ! Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 04, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 04, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
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A light coat of etch works wonders to the appearance.
And it wipes out a few brain cells from the voc’s
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A light coat of etch works wonders to the appearance.
And it wipes out a few brain cells from the voc’s
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2020, 07:20:53 PM
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2020, 07:20:53 PM
Another piece of the jigsaw coming along nicely :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 04, 2020, 07:35:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 04, 2020, 07:35:04 PM
Roof vent next as the polycarbonate side windows will be fixed but I don’t want little hatches.
That will be the last farty piece before I tackle the nose cone, grille, bumper and splitter
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That will be the last farty piece before I tackle the nose cone, grille, bumper and splitter
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2020, 07:02:02 PM
Yeah so gloss over the fact it has some dodgy colouring in with a black marker.....
Im getting a feel for the shape and size of the holes.
It wont poke out the top of the car like a periscope, the nose cone will sit over the top of the vent and all be blended in nicely.
Im not a great fan of this particular part, but given the shape of the front end, the lack of space and many components wanting to share the same space, my options are limited.
It will be fit it, run it, test it.....see how we get on. :sign0085:
Im getting a feel for the shape and size of the holes.
It wont poke out the top of the car like a periscope, the nose cone will sit over the top of the vent and all be blended in nicely.
Im not a great fan of this particular part, but given the shape of the front end, the lack of space and many components wanting to share the same space, my options are limited.
It will be fit it, run it, test it.....see how we get on. :sign0085:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2020, 07:11:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2020, 07:11:05 PM
So a father and his son are sat at the breakfast table; the young boy looks up at his dad and says.....
"Dad, Im not really into rotarys like you, does that mean im adopted?"
His father replies with......
" No not yet, we're still trying to find someone who will accept you! "
:)) :)) :))
"Dad, Im not really into rotarys like you, does that mean im adopted?"
His father replies with......
" No not yet, we're still trying to find someone who will accept you! "
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 05, 2020, 08:53:57 PM
Post by: clive on February 05, 2020, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 05, 2020, 07:11:05 PM
So a father and his son are sat at the breakfast table; the young boy looks up at his dad and says.....
"Dad, Im not really into rotarys like you, does that mean im adopted?"
His father replies with......
" No not yet, we're still trying to find someone who will accept you! "
:)) :)) :))
:bravo_2:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
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New splitter design lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2020, 07:05:21 AM
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2020, 07:05:21 AM
Bumper especially designed for A hole pedestrians.... :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
Your workmanship is slipping, it's not even painted :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 01:10:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 01:10:39 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 09, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
Your workmanship is slipping, it's not even painted :)) :))
I'm going au natural
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 01:44:10 PM
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 01:44:10 PM
Ah, I see, silly me :-[
So which product are you going to treat it with ;)
https://www.aunaturalskinfood.com/shop/
;D
So which product are you going to treat it with ;)
https://www.aunaturalskinfood.com/shop/
;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
"On The Go Brush On Foundation With SPF" would help with UV protection?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 02:14:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 02:14:23 PM
https://www.cuprinol.co.uk/products/index.jsp?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItJKL0tPE5wIVWeDtCh3CnQIfEAAYASAAEgLY5PD_BwE
Was thinking this lol
Was thinking this lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
I'm another step closer to a Morgan car with that wood
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 05:37:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 05:37:47 PM
Im in a quandry........
Not given too much thought to the front end and not sure on headlight position , shape, style
Like the 787 but i dont think its in keeping with the rest of the car and i'm not doing twin headlights
Im thinking the toyota style ( the ones behind the polycarb not the pop up ones)
I know people are gonna be biased towards the 787......
Not given too much thought to the front end and not sure on headlight position , shape, style
Like the 787 but i dont think its in keeping with the rest of the car and i'm not doing twin headlights
Im thinking the toyota style ( the ones behind the polycarb not the pop up ones)
I know people are gonna be biased towards the 787......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
Or the headlights on this to remove thebias lol
http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/08/long-lost-le-mans-mazda-rotary-relic-reappears/
http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/08/long-lost-le-mans-mazda-rotary-relic-reappears/
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 10, 2020, 09:13:59 AM
Post by: clive on February 10, 2020, 09:13:59 AM
Jamie, before you get too far, whilst your car may be exempt due to age, it may be an idea to look up construction and use to have a look at the regs on headlamp hights from the ground. I would hate to see you design somthing and then find you cant get an Mot :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
Been there done that chatted with my local mot inspector, there’s no height requirements for mot. But there is for sva/ Iva but we’re not going down that road lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: clive on February 10, 2020, 09:13:59 AM
Jamie, before you get too far, whilst your car may be exempt due to age, it may be an idea to look up construction and use to have a look at the regs on headlamp hights from the ground. I would hate to see you design somthing and then find you cant get an Mot :(
I appreciate your concern clive
This could be a sign that headlight heights are not too critical on the uk roads lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2020, 07:12:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2020, 07:12:13 PM
Change of plan
Rather working from the top down
We’re going from the ground up
The floor and ground clearance is the perfect datum
No Malcolm the splitter is not au natural lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/e973e550fb6ba55807ada6b58959ea55.jpg)
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Rather working from the top down
We’re going from the ground up
The floor and ground clearance is the perfect datum
No Malcolm the splitter is not au natural lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/e973e550fb6ba55807ada6b58959ea55.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 12, 2020, 08:02:29 PM
Post by: Casey on February 12, 2020, 08:02:29 PM
Looks good for clearing snow from the drive!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2020, 08:08:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2020, 08:08:10 PM
Bout all it’s good for at mo lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 01:34:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 01:34:56 PM
I’m sick of filler !!!
Can anyone think of a decent medium to use that works as well but doesn’t cost the earth ?
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Can anyone think of a decent medium to use that works as well but doesn’t cost the earth ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
Tried using drywall adhesive but ironically it’s not very adhesive
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 01:34:56 PMWeetabix?
I’m sick of filler !!!
Can anyone think of a decent medium to use that works as well but doesn’t cost the earth ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
Lol you stupid boy pike !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2020, 08:10:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2020, 08:10:41 AM
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The snow plough with some paint on.
In all seriousness, this isn’t actually any part of the car but shape of the air under the splitter.
Lay some glass on top of this and this will be the smooth underside of the splitter ready to start the pattern.
I still hate filler !
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The snow plough with some paint on.
In all seriousness, this isn’t actually any part of the car but shape of the air under the splitter.
Lay some glass on top of this and this will be the smooth underside of the splitter ready to start the pattern.
I still hate filler !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2020, 12:14:44 PM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2020, 12:14:44 PM
Whats that little clarke bench lathe like?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
Had it for about 14 years, still going.
It’s not as accurate as a Colchester, travelling up n down the bed the a little backlash in the threads but it’s the old acme type. Nothing like modern cnc machine.
Jaws open to 50mm ish diameter, can fit bars hanging out the back of the chuck 25mm diameter max.
For the hobbyist on a budget it’s tip top. You get used to it’s little quirks. I can make repeatable parts within 0.01mm of each other. I don’t need tighter tolerances than that for what I use it for.
If you’ve been used to top quality machinery you may be disappointed.
Depends what you wanna use it for.... small bushes n stuff it’s great
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It’s not as accurate as a Colchester, travelling up n down the bed the a little backlash in the threads but it’s the old acme type. Nothing like modern cnc machine.
Jaws open to 50mm ish diameter, can fit bars hanging out the back of the chuck 25mm diameter max.
For the hobbyist on a budget it’s tip top. You get used to it’s little quirks. I can make repeatable parts within 0.01mm of each other. I don’t need tighter tolerances than that for what I use it for.
If you’ve been used to top quality machinery you may be disappointed.
Depends what you wanna use it for.... small bushes n stuff it’s great
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2020, 08:28:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2020, 08:28:24 PM
Not at the right ride height it’s only bolted on the back end but it’s a start
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on February 20, 2020, 09:40:47 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on February 20, 2020, 09:40:47 PM
I like the art work(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200220/50e49cda960ec7887d3b779ba679a2d8.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2020, 07:03:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2020, 07:03:22 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on February 20, 2020, 09:40:47 PMIt’s definitely authentic lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2020, 07:11:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 22, 2020, 07:11:10 AM
https://www.raceretro.com/
Start of the season...... today’s antics!
On the hunt for Doritos
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On the hunt for Doritos
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 29, 2020, 01:21:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 29, 2020, 01:21:02 PM
Next piece of the jig saw in primer (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200229/3f4c9e7f87d3bccff9d3f43cf6e4407a.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 29, 2020, 01:43:30 PM
Post by: clive on February 29, 2020, 01:43:30 PM
Still staggered by your patience ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 29, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 29, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
I don’t really have a lot of choice lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 09:16:11 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 09:16:11 AM
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blocked down and waxed waiting for gel coat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
Hi Jamie, really interested to know material and costs...
I.e something like a naca duct...or similar on your car....and a maybe explain the terminology....too me bog is something you get stuck on the moors or where i spend alot of time...
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I.e something like a naca duct...or similar on your car....and a maybe explain the terminology....too me bog is something you get stuck on the moors or where i spend alot of time...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 09:53:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 09:53:42 AM
Morning
Difficult one to answer without knowing sizes.
However if you want one buying one from merlin or demon tweeks works out cheaper.
Cheapest one on there is 30 quid but it may not suit your application
There is usually a minimum order quantity on the chopped strand matting so it’s works out expensive for one, but if you got the stuff it’s peanuts in the grand scheme.
I’ll post a file on in a bit coz I’m on the bog too, but we can come onto that
I base my sizes on the height of the duct because you may have space contraints, I.e. putting one in a flat Ali floor near the sump but you only have 25 mm clearance.
You punch in 25mm in the text box and it works out the rest for the optimum shape width and length etc
Historically I’ve bought off cuts of kitchen worktop at 30mm thick, for less than a tenner and I can get about 4 or 5 different versions of if that piece.
Cut it, shape it, prime, wax, gel coat, grp even with the wood I reckon I could make one for less than £ 20 in materials. Not much of a saving over demon tweeks, but once you have the mould you can make hundreds....
But the biggest benefit it’s a size and shape that works for your car not a “make do†universal one from a shop.
As for bog, I’m with you, ............
I’ve read a few books and done some research and have never come across “bog†as a term for this kinda stuff. It may be just the terminology just called summat diff.
I’ll post this file shortly..... I don’t mind making you a duct, I’ll post you the mould too so you can get some materials and make your own ducts in the future
Just remember the initial outlay is the expense and the liquid products can have a shelf life....
I’m getting through tons of product making different one off parts
Leave it with ya.......
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Difficult one to answer without knowing sizes.
However if you want one buying one from merlin or demon tweeks works out cheaper.
Cheapest one on there is 30 quid but it may not suit your application
There is usually a minimum order quantity on the chopped strand matting so it’s works out expensive for one, but if you got the stuff it’s peanuts in the grand scheme.
I’ll post a file on in a bit coz I’m on the bog too, but we can come onto that
I base my sizes on the height of the duct because you may have space contraints, I.e. putting one in a flat Ali floor near the sump but you only have 25 mm clearance.
You punch in 25mm in the text box and it works out the rest for the optimum shape width and length etc
Historically I’ve bought off cuts of kitchen worktop at 30mm thick, for less than a tenner and I can get about 4 or 5 different versions of if that piece.
Cut it, shape it, prime, wax, gel coat, grp even with the wood I reckon I could make one for less than £ 20 in materials. Not much of a saving over demon tweeks, but once you have the mould you can make hundreds....
But the biggest benefit it’s a size and shape that works for your car not a “make do†universal one from a shop.
As for bog, I’m with you, ............
I’ve read a few books and done some research and have never come across “bog†as a term for this kinda stuff. It may be just the terminology just called summat diff.
I’ll post this file shortly..... I don’t mind making you a duct, I’ll post you the mould too so you can get some materials and make your own ducts in the future
Just remember the initial outlay is the expense and the liquid products can have a shelf life....
I’m getting through tons of product making different one off parts
Leave it with ya.......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 09:56:23 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 09:56:23 AM
I dont need a duct it was just an example of sort size and materials used...cheers.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:06:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:06:53 AM
Oh ok, a simple duct if you drilled down the nitty gritty,
I could make a naca duct for around 15 -20 quid
Worktop
Bit of ply
Crystic primecoat
Floor wax (I never use the proper stuff)
Gel coat
Polyester resin
Chop strand
Tools( brushes rollers mixing buckets stirrers)
Acetone for cleaning
As for the rad duct I’m making now, much more expensive.
A pack of 50mm thick polystyrene from b&q 25quid
A tin and a half of filler at 30 quid a tin
Some lengths of timber
All of the above materials
I reckon this duct will cost me around 100 quid in materials.
Sounds expensive but it’s completely one off, if you paid some one to make it it would be considerably more expensive.
Probably 2 weeks work sanding and shaping but that parts my hobby
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I could make a naca duct for around 15 -20 quid
Worktop
Bit of ply
Crystic primecoat
Floor wax (I never use the proper stuff)
Gel coat
Polyester resin
Chop strand
Tools( brushes rollers mixing buckets stirrers)
Acetone for cleaning
As for the rad duct I’m making now, much more expensive.
A pack of 50mm thick polystyrene from b&q 25quid
A tin and a half of filler at 30 quid a tin
Some lengths of timber
All of the above materials
I reckon this duct will cost me around 100 quid in materials.
Sounds expensive but it’s completely one off, if you paid some one to make it it would be considerably more expensive.
Probably 2 weeks work sanding and shaping but that parts my hobby
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:14:18 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:14:18 AM
Cool. Yeah if you enjoy doing it free...same as me tinkering in garage.
Cool thanks.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:14:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:14:42 AM
If I kept a tab on how much Ive spent on this project to get where I am I may have stopped by now lolllll
I do it coz I enjoy building one off stuff.
Yup theres times where ive thought christ i could have bought a car and ragged it round a track.
Its just me lol
I do it coz I enjoy building one off stuff.
Yup theres times where ive thought christ i could have bought a car and ragged it round a track.
Its just me lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
Yep same as Westy...i started adding up got half way and stopped. Had fun. So many hrs in garage all having fun.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:26:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:26:33 AM
With all the wedding plans she’s got going on.......
I’d rather go in the shed and smother my whole naked body in grp resin and try and pull it out my hair than sit in the house and watch
Say yes to the fat dress USA or curvy brides for hopeless women who can’t make a decision without looking stupid on tv.
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I’d rather go in the shed and smother my whole naked body in grp resin and try and pull it out my hair than sit in the house and watch
Say yes to the fat dress USA or curvy brides for hopeless women who can’t make a decision without looking stupid on tv.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:30:11 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:30:11 AM
Leave the planning to the woman..nod agree and say i do!
Happy Wife Happy Life.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:40:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:40:10 AM
You missed a bit...... unload the dishwasher lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:41:12 AM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2020, 10:41:12 AM
Lol yeah...since ive been off ive been pretty much doing everything...only fair.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
Aye..... as I say to the minions on the factory shop floor
“Teamwork! Makes the dream work!â€
Another one I use when I give someone a task I know they won’t like.
“ now is your time to shine “
Both go down like a lead balloon ha haha
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“Teamwork! Makes the dream work!â€
Another one I use when I give someone a task I know they won’t like.
“ now is your time to shine “
Both go down like a lead balloon ha haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on March 02, 2020, 10:10:02 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on March 02, 2020, 10:10:02 PM
I think bog is a term used more back home in NZ and over in Aussie aye ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:02:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:02:34 PM
Duct demoulded, sorry did take any component pics but got some of them in place fitted to the rad.
I cut the original grille opening off the lotus and bonded that in place (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/ca7c666623319dadb738658997781837.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Mmmmm koyorad
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:04:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 03, 2020, 08:04:19 PM
Last one
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 07, 2020, 05:13:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 07, 2020, 05:13:42 AM
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Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2020, 02:39:37 PM
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2020, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 07, 2020, 05:13:42 AM
Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
Stop messing around with polluting power stations for your model village. You've got a
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2020, 06:47:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2020, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 11, 2020, 02:39:37 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200311/08109fdea89b19336ad2431e01f2242f.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on March 07, 2020, 05:13:42 AM
Scaled down cooling towers for the power station on my model village
Stop messing around with polluting power stations for your model village. You've got apollutingRotus to finish building ;) ;D
Chimneys in place Malcolm
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2020, 11:49:27 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2020, 11:49:27 PM
That's a nice pair ;)
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Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2020, 07:56:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2020, 07:56:43 AM
So.....
They have cancelled all football matches, so opposed to watching footy on the box I decided to talk to my wife for a change ......
...... apparently she’s been made redundant from Woolworths
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They have cancelled all football matches, so opposed to watching footy on the box I decided to talk to my wife for a change ......
...... apparently she’s been made redundant from Woolworths
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
:)) :)) :))
No Colchester United match today :-[
Dau in Law, a medical doctor, has just gone into self isolation after showing all the classic symptoms of the c-virus :( :(
No Colchester United match today :-[
Dau in Law, a medical doctor, has just gone into self isolation after showing all the classic symptoms of the c-virus :( :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on March 14, 2020, 11:54:50 AM
Post by: jinx on March 14, 2020, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 14, 2020, 07:56:43 AM
They have cancelled all football matches, so opposed to watching footy on the box I decided to talk to my wife for a change ......
...... apparently she’s been made redundant from Woolworths
:)) :)) :)) Perfect!
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Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 14, 2020, 11:44:07 AMWell fingers crossed
:)) :)) :))
No Colchester United match today :-[
Dau in Law, a medical doctor, has just gone into self isolation after showing all the classic symptoms of the c-virus :( :(
But she’s young fit n healthy. It’s will build up her immune system
People don’t eat enough dirt these days
When I was a kid we swam in the river, the canals, basins, climbed trees, covered in mud and dog poo, never washed our hands......
The younger generation are obsessed with living in front of the computer and never exposing themselves to anything
The corona virus is actually man flu.... the world has only just realised how bad we had it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 14, 2020, 01:23:52 PM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2020, 01:23:52 PM
So good and bad Malcolm, by all accounts she should be immune after this bout.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2020, 05:56:48 PM
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2020, 05:56:48 PM
I went in a roadside service station today..had to wait about 2 mins for someone to come in so i didnt have to touch the door handle....ocd...i did this b4 manflu struck world wide!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on March 15, 2020, 08:02:55 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 15, 2020, 08:02:55 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 14, 2020, 05:56:48 PMWear long sleeves and pull it over your hand.
I went in a roadside service station today..had to wait about 2 mins for someone to come in so i didnt have to touch the door handle....ocd...i did this b4 manflu struck world wide!!!
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I'm exactly the same
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 08:06:28 AM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 08:06:28 AM
I usually reach up and pull on door closure arm to inward open door but this one didnt have 1.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 15, 2020, 08:18:53 AM
Post by: re japi on March 15, 2020, 08:18:53 AM
Looking damn nice, good job mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 08:20:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 08:20:35 AM
Many moons ago I was doing a job in London, its about 8.30 am I'm walking into McDonald's
I pulled on the door handle to go in but too late to realise someone else's blood all over the handle.
Said to my boss, I'm going to the loo to wash my hands.....open THAT door to be presented with a homeless man washing his meat n 2 veg in the automatic tap and hand dryer hole in the wall.
He didn't bat an eyelid, so I went round the corner did my thing, walked back to see him with his head inside the hole drying his hair!
Well, I thought, that's different....... But at least he's washing
I pulled on the door handle to go in but too late to realise someone else's blood all over the handle.
Said to my boss, I'm going to the loo to wash my hands.....open THAT door to be presented with a homeless man washing his meat n 2 veg in the automatic tap and hand dryer hole in the wall.
He didn't bat an eyelid, so I went round the corner did my thing, walked back to see him with his head inside the hole drying his hair!
Well, I thought, that's different....... But at least he's washing
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 08:22:43 AM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 08:22:43 AM
Youve come along way since then Jamie....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 15, 2020, 09:11:55 AM
Post by: clive on March 15, 2020, 09:11:55 AM
;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:08 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 15, 2020, 08:22:43 AMYa effin reckon ????
Youve come along way since then Jamie....
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I don’t do that now coz I got no bloody hair to wash !!!! Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: clive on March 15, 2020, 09:11:55 AMI’ll need more litter than that lol
;)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 11:33:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 11:33:03 AM
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Got my racing outfit so my arms are covered
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on March 15, 2020, 08:57:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 15, 2020, 08:57:46 PM
Haha nutter
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Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:05:51 PM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:05:51 PM
What the hell...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
Found out I’m a size 22
I’m a big lass
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I’m a big lass
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:21:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:21:09 PM
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This girl wasn’t very chatty
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:22:28 PM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:22:28 PM
You could practice your hairdressing on her
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Girl behind is er rather pert!! Have your eye out on that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:24:05 PM
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Lol I know
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:25:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:25:31 PM
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Gave her the Jamie cut
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:26:03 PM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2020, 09:26:03 PM
Lol your gonna asked to leave in a mo...
Is there cctv? Manneqiun fondling is that an offence?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:26:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:26:53 PM
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Left a bit down a bit
He fondled me man!
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He fondled me man!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:29:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 09:29:16 PM
Emma hates shopping with me
Lolllll
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Lolllll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2020, 03:46:31 AM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2020, 03:46:31 AM
I wonder why...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2020, 05:22:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2020, 05:22:14 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 16, 2020, 03:46:31 AMFriday walked round Chester zoo all day
I wonder why...
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Saturday walked round Chester town shopping
Sunday walked round Cheshire Oaks Designer Outlet
For someone who is disabled she likes her walking.
If I had another day of non car related crap I may have hung myself lol
I hate shopping! !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
Ah, but what about shopping for car related bits ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 04:50:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 04:50:07 PM
Thats different lol
I still wanna take a trip to Clive’s place if I’m down that way
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 08:01:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 08:01:54 PM
Finally starting to take shape
I’m gonna get the one side done first then replicate the other.
This is gonna be one big ass body panel.
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I’m gonna get the one side done first then replicate the other.
This is gonna be one big ass body panel.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
Finished
Going for the “just laid concrete†look
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Going for the “just laid concrete†look
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2020, 03:59:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2020, 03:59:13 PM
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Slowly taking shape
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 22, 2020, 05:33:59 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 22, 2020, 05:33:59 PM
Admire your dedication
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2020, 06:54:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2020, 06:54:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 22, 2020, 05:33:59 PMWell I can’t quit now lol
Admire your dedication
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I didn’t realise I’d be doing so much bodywork at the start of the project
Build a bespoke chassis I said, bolt on all the rx8 running gear I said, just plonk the body back on the top I said .......easy
Wrong ! Lol
Tbh, it started as a hill climb car, couldn’t get a b license, then it was gonna be a road car, now it’s gonna end up a road legal track day toy.
I wanted it fin by this Christmas, but I gotta finish the front bumper, I’m halfway through the pattern for the roof vent, then I decided last week I want side skirts. And that’s just the bodywork ......
Better make it a five year project instead of three haha.
Believe me I wish I was driving it, esp after hooning about in the 8 and I’m aiming for around 500 kg less weight than the 8.
Keeps me in the shed and off the street catching viruses lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 31, 2020, 02:52:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 31, 2020, 02:52:21 PM
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New headlights arrived
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
Q?
What gives the stock RX8 speedo the info for the speed to be displayed?
Do i need to keep the wheel sensors or does it come from the gearbox?
Thanks
J
What gives the stock RX8 speedo the info for the speed to be displayed?
Do i need to keep the wheel sensors or does it come from the gearbox?
Thanks
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:12:58 PM
via abs to pcm by canbus, pcm to dash via can bus. if my memory right
youll have revs etc but no odometer Peaky Blinder! ???
youll have revs etc but no odometer Peaky Blinder! ???
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 12:14:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 12:14:25 PM
hmmmm, not running abs..... this sounds complicated now ......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 12:18:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 12:18:47 PM
I think the old wheel sensors got trashed getting them out of rusty holes.
Looks like im purchasing more if I want the stock speedo to work.
Looks like im purchasing more if I want the stock speedo to work.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:20:16 PM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:20:16 PM
Junk it and run a nice race digi dash...gps speed. oil water temps and pressure properly monitored cheaper than after market gauges once you buy them all.....
or im sure theres some clever electronic whizz that cold get odo display to work with a raspberry PI or summit.
Clive runs the 8 dash im sure the odo just stays or zero.
or im sure theres some clever electronic whizz that cold get odo display to work with a raspberry PI or summit.
Clive runs the 8 dash im sure the odo just stays or zero.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:21:48 PM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:21:48 PM
or just get a heads up display gps speed odometer...displays speed on inside of windscreen.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 01, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
Post by: clive on April 01, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 01, 2020, 12:21:48 PM
or just get a heads up display gps speed odometer...displays speed on inside of windscreen.
Top Gun style or CX-3 which doesn't sound quite the same :(. Mind you I can never see it anyway as Lisa has it set too low for me ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 06:32:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 06:32:13 PM
I really wanted to maintain the original speedo, but with the clocks in the centre of the dash I guess it would actually be dangerous to look across and take my eyes off the road hahahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
GPS Speedo would fit in the cluster if you wanted it
My mate just used one in his V8 MK 1 MX5
Sits in there lovely and works a treat
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My mate just used one in his V8 MK 1 MX5
Sits in there lovely and works a treat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 08:49:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2020, 08:49:30 PM
Sorry Wayne I'm having a blond moment.....
Have ya got any pics I can't visualise it
I'm being a dubba
Have ya got any pics I can't visualise it
I'm being a dubba
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
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Sorry Wayne I'm having a blond moment.....
Have ya got any pics I can't visualise it
I'm being a dubba
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:24:11 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:24:11 PM
Have a read into rx8 LS conversions. People work wonders using a box of tricks and retaining the rx8 clocks
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:29:11 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:29:11 PM
https://www.chamberofunderstanding.co.uk/2017/11/15/rx8-project-part-5-canbus/
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:33:50 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:33:50 PM
http://forums.linkecu.com/topic/7433-g4-mazda-rx8-can-bus/
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:34:20 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:34:20 PM
http://www.madox.net/blog/projects/mazda-can-bus/
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 02, 2020, 07:50:02 AM
Post by: clive on April 02, 2020, 07:50:02 AM
Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 08:43:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 08:43:58 AM
Im even more confused lol
Sorry Wayne, I meant have you got any pics of this GPS speedo in the stock Rx8 cluster...... unless im missing something.
And thanks for the links Paul, ill ask my mucka to see if he understands that, he designed and built circuit boards, thats way over my head.
Im going for a nervous breakdown I cant even find an emoji for me sitting in the corner dribbling.
Sorry Wayne, I meant have you got any pics of this GPS speedo in the stock Rx8 cluster...... unless im missing something.
And thanks for the links Paul, ill ask my mucka to see if he understands that, he designed and built circuit boards, thats way over my head.
Im going for a nervous breakdown I cant even find an emoji for me sitting in the corner dribbling.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 02, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
Post by: boosted on April 02, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
If your tingling all over feeling the effects of adrenalin....your going too fast!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
That dun get the car to pass an mot tho lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 02, 2020, 09:26:06 AM
Post by: clive on April 02, 2020, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 02, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
If your tingling all over feeling the effects of adrenalin....your going too fast!
Wow, I never get that happen, obviously I'm not going fast enough :)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 08:43:58 AMNope - Jamie the Speedo shown is a gps one in an MX5 as an example .
Im even more confused lol
Sorry Wayne, I meant have you got any pics of this GPS speedo in the stock Rx8 cluster...... unless im missing something.
And thanks for the links Paul, ill ask my mucka to see if he understands that, he designed and built circuit boards, thats way over my head.
Im going for a nervous breakdown I cant even find an emoji for me sitting in the corner dribbling.
They just had to lift the circuit Board over it as it was 20 mm deeper .
Sorry for the confusion
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 09:49:15 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: clive on April 02, 2020, 07:50:02 AMOops
Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
That was t meant to be there - must have had a wobbly thumb
Sorry Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Ah I get you, so it is a gps one but analogue clock display?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 01:25:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2020, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 11:39:45 AMYeah man
Ah I get you, so it is a gps one but analogue clock display?
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Probably don’t explain myself very well after a few buds lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 01:26:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 01:26:33 PM
Why would you drink water of an evening ? Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 02:35:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2020, 02:35:57 PM
Ive got our old IT manager on the case, he knows his stuff. Saves me crying over it lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 03, 2020, 10:20:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 03, 2020, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: clive on April 02, 2020, 07:50:02 AM
Excellent work with the rear Diffuser Wayne :bravo_2:
It is a nice diffuser actually. I wouldnt have the patience to make all the cut outs for the lower arms and exhaust, that would do my bulb.
Have you noticed a difference with it fitted?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 02:43:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 02:43:49 PM
Trying to get the near side symmetrical
Ya can’t beat a last level for stuff like this.
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Ya can’t beat a last level for stuff like this.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQwKe0lggw
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQwKe0lggw
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 03:23:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 04, 2020, 03:00:00 PMLol now that clip remind me of this clip. Johnny Vegas talking about James Bond while he peed in the bath whilst doing an outtake on The Last Leg
Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQwKe0lggw
Parental guidance required, it’s blue in places
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 07:18:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 07:18:36 AM
Quote from: Casey on April 04, 2020, 03:00:00 PMHigh tech eh ????
Very high tech Jamie :icon_thumleft:
It somehow reminded me of the scene in Goldfinger, with James Bonds strapped to the table and a deadly looking laser moving toward his nuts :))
Skip to 1m30s for the best bit,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQwKe0lggw
Would you like to change your mind Malcolm?
Nowt high tech with my working practices lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 05, 2020, 11:27:49 AM
Post by: Casey on April 05, 2020, 11:27:49 AM
Disappointing, not a single laser line in sight, and not even a Teflon coated saw either ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
Haha
I never buy expensive saws. False economy for me, I always catch a nail or screw or the floor and ruin them.
At around 6 or 7 quid a go they’re a throw away item these days
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I never buy expensive saws. False economy for me, I always catch a nail or screw or the floor and ruin them.
At around 6 or 7 quid a go they’re a throw away item these days
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 11:49:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2020, 11:49:34 AM
Besides I’m cutting a curve, a laser won’t help me there, Unless you can recommend a refraction device lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2020, 06:18:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2020, 06:18:04 PM
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I’m flat out on this bloody car
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I’m flat out on this bloody car
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:21:34 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:21:34 PM
Me too....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/34d4729644652c5664bb00df460e4a80.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
But ive have achieved this...ker choo choo!! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/b9a9db6f0970611cef490055e3c50228.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/4b1d18a02bada80ec74168d6e4dd50a9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
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Back on it today. Done my 8 hours in the shed.
Quality time with the dragon lol
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Back on it today. Done my 8 hours in the shed.
Quality time with the dragon lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:24:14 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:24:14 PM
Need to mow that lawn.... should be good a cutting grass!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:24:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:24:26 PM
Oooo nice can’t see very well in the sun. I’m assuming new turbo on the mx5 beast ??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:25:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2020, 04:25:11 PM
Stuff the grass I like the meadow look lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:25:51 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 04:25:51 PM
Yep a little Garrett gt2545r...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 05:29:46 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2020, 05:29:46 PM
NHS facebook Rave..is bangin!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2020, 03:38:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2020, 03:38:38 PM
Afternoon chaps.
Hope you’re all enjoying the Easter weekend.
Welcome to another episode of Jamie sands body filler. FML
I should have built another bloody motorbike!!!
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Hope you’re all enjoying the Easter weekend.
Welcome to another episode of Jamie sands body filler. FML
I should have built another bloody motorbike!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 13, 2020, 03:57:27 PM
Post by: clive on April 13, 2020, 03:57:27 PM
Afternoon Jamie.
Looking like somthing real good now.
Iroincally your hateing plod, but sitting here trapped indoors I would love to be playing with the stuff, or indeed anything to do with a car, never been so dormant in my life ::)
Looking like somthing real good now.
Iroincally your hateing plod, but sitting here trapped indoors I would love to be playing with the stuff, or indeed anything to do with a car, never been so dormant in my life ::)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2020, 04:22:32 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2020, 04:22:32 PM
Yes thats looking good nice lines...and pretty unique to.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2020, 04:33:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2020, 04:33:29 PM
Still lots to do
Come on a long way from here on 12th feb
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 13, 2020, 05:47:49 PM
Post by: re japi on April 13, 2020, 05:47:49 PM
Looks mean and bada*s
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 15, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Post by: Casey on April 15, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Yep, some nice lines emerging there Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 16, 2020, 06:22:50 PM
Post by: boosted on April 16, 2020, 06:22:50 PM
Just realised the front end reminds of a curvier ferrari 355...
Very nice!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:49:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:49:53 PM
Ah I’ve been busted !
You’re not the first to say
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You’re not the first to say
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:50:52 PM
I hate Ferrari’s too.
It wasn’t intended. Just how the lines ended up front the front grille and the arches
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It wasn’t intended. Just how the lines ended up front the front grille and the arches
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 16, 2020, 06:53:17 PM
Post by: boosted on April 16, 2020, 06:53:17 PM
F355...my posters as teenager along with Wendy James from Transvision Vamp! F355 still looks beautiful to this day in my eyes...Wendy not so..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
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Sanded all the rads in, just putting fillets in the internal corners.
Gotta finish off the oil cooler duct openings then decide where I’m gonna mount the headlights.
I got a couple of options, when the time is right I’ll post a couple of options on here n get a vote.
At the mo I’m leaning towards that pink rx7 racecar that was posted the other day
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Sanded all the rads in, just putting fillets in the internal corners.
Gotta finish off the oil cooler duct openings then decide where I’m gonna mount the headlights.
I got a couple of options, when the time is right I’ll post a couple of options on here n get a vote.
At the mo I’m leaning towards that pink rx7 racecar that was posted the other day
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:55:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 16, 2020, 06:53:17 PMYeah she was a hottie, and that bird from the cranberries, sadly passed away
F355...my posters as teenager along with Wendy James from Transvision Vamp! F355 still looks beautiful to this day in my eyes...Wendy not so..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 07:01:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 07:01:36 PM
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Like that with polycarbonate covers, headlight above and indicator below
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Like that with polycarbonate covers, headlight above and indicator below
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 07:14:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 07:14:02 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200416/6bdddd7a1f28696b93092e5959cb9df6.jpg)
Or summat like that
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Or summat like that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 16, 2020, 09:52:03 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 16, 2020, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 06:54:32 PMFair play to you
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Sanded all the rads in, just putting fillets in the internal corners.
Gotta finish off the oil cooler duct openings then decide where I’m gonna mount the headlights.
I got a couple of options, when the time is right I’ll post a couple of options on here n get a vote.
At the mo I’m leaning towards that pink rx7 racecar that was posted the other day
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Steering effort ,I can see the shape now .
Keep at it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
Cheers Wayne :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 16, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 16, 2020, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 09:54:39 PMSterling effort lol
Cheers Wayne :13:
Looks like the. Bud and fat thumbs kicked in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 16, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
Lol I knew what ya meant
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2020, 02:27:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2020, 02:27:05 PM
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Made a little jig to hold the duct openings at the right height and pointing the right direction while the filler bonds
Just hope the stay put when I grind the tacks off or there could be some blue language lol
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Made a little jig to hold the duct openings at the right height and pointing the right direction while the filler bonds
Just hope the stay put when I grind the tacks off or there could be some blue language lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
Tha(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/6f8c3b0a4714c5f61068a08f2082c454.jpg)
That’s a bit neater
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That’s a bit neater
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
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I think a small mammal could get in there
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I think a small mammal could get in there
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:08:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:08:20 PM
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That will do for one day. Need to do battle in Tesco
Headlights next ...... to be continued
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That will do for one day. Need to do battle in Tesco
Headlights next ...... to be continued
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2020, 01:33:32 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2020, 01:33:32 PM
Epic
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:42:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:42:41 PM
I wouldn’t go that far bud but you can massage my EGO all day long lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
Lol...very good then.
If i had made it it would be lopsided and look like a melted candle...
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If i had made it it would be lopsided and look like a melted candle...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:57:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2020, 01:57:47 PM
Ah you need to give yourself more credit bud.
Besides not everyone can look like their t shirt print lolll (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/e7507721829e97db4f95922100a33dcf.jpg)
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Besides not everyone can look like their t shirt print lolll (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200419/e7507721829e97db4f95922100a33dcf.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2020, 07:18:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2020, 07:18:12 PM
Right....... id love a bit of input from you helpful chaps.
Ive been playing around with different lens options, based on the dimensions of my lights etc.
So the tape is just the shape of the polycarbonate covers that go over the top.
I have limitations as to where these are going dimensionally
1a and 1b are just the headlight on its own, the indicator can be screwed to the outside of the bodywork lower down
2a and 2b are the same as 1a and 1b with just the lens wrapping around the side a little for a more modern look.
3a and 3b is with the indicator mounted behind the lens, inboard of the headlight.
4a and 4b is with the indicator mounted underneath the headlight but still behind the lens. Similar to the pink RX7.
Thoughts? diff options?
As im not going down the SVA route ( with any luck) Mr MOT inspector is quite relaxed over headlight heights, and theyre not exactly scraping the floor like the 787b lolll
Ive been playing around with different lens options, based on the dimensions of my lights etc.
So the tape is just the shape of the polycarbonate covers that go over the top.
I have limitations as to where these are going dimensionally
1a and 1b are just the headlight on its own, the indicator can be screwed to the outside of the bodywork lower down
2a and 2b are the same as 1a and 1b with just the lens wrapping around the side a little for a more modern look.
3a and 3b is with the indicator mounted behind the lens, inboard of the headlight.
4a and 4b is with the indicator mounted underneath the headlight but still behind the lens. Similar to the pink RX7.
Thoughts? diff options?
As im not going down the SVA route ( with any luck) Mr MOT inspector is quite relaxed over headlight heights, and theyre not exactly scraping the floor like the 787b lolll
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2020, 09:30:56 PM
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2020, 09:30:56 PM
The only one that doesn't seem "right" is the first one. All the others look fine to me :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2020, 03:56:22 AM
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2020, 03:56:22 AM
Well, thats a thought one 
they all seem quite good to me...
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they all seem quite good to me... Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on April 21, 2020, 09:11:58 AM
Post by: rote8 on April 21, 2020, 09:11:58 AM
Not that my opinion counts for much but personal preference would be for the last as it appears on the pink car. i'm still just in awe at the standard of your work and the skill sets involved.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2020, 09:24:30 AM
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2020, 09:24:30 AM
I like 1a.
Gonna be a twin set each side?
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Gonna be a twin set each side?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:33:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:33:43 AM
No 1 headlight and 1 indicator
Headlights were £210 a pair oooossshhhh
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Headlights were £210 a pair oooossshhhh
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:43:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: rote8 on April 21, 2020, 09:11:58 AMIt’s just like baking a cake really lol, your opinion does count. That’s why I asked haha
Not that my opinion counts for much but personal preference would be for the last as it appears on the pink car. i'm still just in awe at the standard of your work and the skill sets involved.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2020, 09:46:00 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2020, 09:46:00 AM
Vauxhall chevette lights 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:47:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2020, 09:46:00 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200421/7944e6d71adef21dabf84a295a9ffb14.jpg)
Vauxhall chevette lights
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Lol love it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2020, 11:59:05 AM
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2020, 11:59:05 AM
What yer gonna do for lenses?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200421/a89cd1c3c96fc3ea10c66d371c352776.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 12:38:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2020, 12:38:44 PM
Lol .....
well i thought if I take a grp mould of the bodywork as it is that can be the female side.
I’ll lay up more grp of that female mould on the inside that can be the male.
I was gonna have a go at drape moulding by putting some 3 or 4mm polycarbonate in the powder coating oven at work laying it over the male mould take it out once it starts going soft then put the female over the top and squeeze it down.
Hoping it will act like pressing steel in a tool.
I was gonna make all the car glass in the same way so this could be a dummy run .
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well i thought if I take a grp mould of the bodywork as it is that can be the female side.
I’ll lay up more grp of that female mould on the inside that can be the male.
I was gonna have a go at drape moulding by putting some 3 or 4mm polycarbonate in the powder coating oven at work laying it over the male mould take it out once it starts going soft then put the female over the top and squeeze it down.
Hoping it will act like pressing steel in a tool.
I was gonna make all the car glass in the same way so this could be a dummy run .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 22, 2020, 06:41:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 22, 2020, 06:41:03 PM
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What a difference a coat of primer makes !
I think the satin black/ stealth race car look has had its day tho
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What a difference a coat of primer makes !
I think the satin black/ stealth race car look has had its day tho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
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Laid up some glass in readiness for the lenses before I start carving holes in the pattern
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Laid up some glass in readiness for the lenses before I start carving holes in the pattern
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
Lol nooooo
I made the grp panels way oversized coz I dunno what shape it will end up being cut I start cutting holes, just wanna capture all the contours n rads before the saw comes out
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I made the grp panels way oversized coz I dunno what shape it will end up being cut I start cutting holes, just wanna capture all the contours n rads before the saw comes out
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:56:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:56:36 PM
Till I start ****
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 07:19:44 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 07:19:44 PM
Or this lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/445d5ee8e675f71797f3ffbc04a41522.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 07:22:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 07:22:07 PM
Have you been drinking? Lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 24, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
Just starting
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:07 AM
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Got my moulding of the profile before I start choppin
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Got my moulding of the profile before I start choppin
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:31 AM
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About here????
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About here????
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:13:57 AM
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No turning back now
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No turning back now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:14:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:14:31 AM
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How close to that oil cooler ????
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How close to that oil cooler ????
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:18:26 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:18:26 AM
Admire your work pal
Very accurate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AM
Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:21:56 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:21:56 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AMNope lol
Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Damn lucky be the looks
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:23:45 AM
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Sit in there somewhere
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Sit in there somewhere
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 10:33:05 AM
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 10:33:05 AM
Cool! Make sure you have provision to get to the adjusters.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
Bug eyed(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/196a2ce35d750e5dccdb4a6faddcf0eb.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Lol
Yup the plastic mounts have holes in to adjust
According to the destructions you only adjust the one bottom one for height
So it’s pop the lens off and adjust
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little torx bit required
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Yup the plastic mounts have holes in to adjust
According to the destructions you only adjust the one bottom one for height
So it’s pop the lens off and adjust
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/ac7d449374727054db9e1920e37a0624.jpg)
little torx bit required
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:44:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:44:22 AM
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I was thinking Sid from ice age lolll
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I was thinking Sid from ice age lolll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:23:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:23:24 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/4182458884d99794ae638684885a148f.jpg)
Headlight and indicator locations.
Obviously the indicator inboard and further forward
That will do for one day
I can’t stop thinking it looks Datsun-ish
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Headlight and indicator locations.
Obviously the indicator inboard and further forward
That will do for one day
I can’t stop thinking it looks Datsun-ish
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 03:25:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:21:56 AMDo admire the work your putting in thoQuote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AMNope lol
Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Damn lucky be the looks
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
120y or 240z lol...
Cherry turbo now that was blast...i learnt to drive in a Datsun Cherry!
In fact had my first crash whilst learning...turning around in a cul de sac...bloke reversed straight out of his garage straight into the side of me....stalled and stationary.
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Cherry turbo now that was blast...i learnt to drive in a Datsun Cherry!
In fact had my first crash whilst learning...turning around in a cul de sac...bloke reversed straight out of his garage straight into the side of me....stalled and stationary.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
Oh the 120y were porn
Bloke in town had a huge Mohawk and drove round in a bright pink one back in the day
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Bloke in town had a huge Mohawk and drove round in a bright pink one back in the day
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:36:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 03:25:47 PMAww you’re a sweetieQuote from: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2020, 10:21:56 AMDo admire the work your putting in thoQuote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AMNope lol
Serious?
Complete fluke ! Lol
I had a rough guess, no skill involved haha
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Damn lucky be the looks
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Thanks Wayne
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 04:17:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 04:17:00 PM
Ok folks I’m undecided
So I need a show of hands
I’ve painted on an area in blue for the lens shape
So option A is a bit more traditional maybe gt40/787 square across the body
Or option B is a more modern angry eyes style.
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So I need a show of hands
I’ve painted on an area in blue for the lens shape
So option A is a bit more traditional maybe gt40/787 square across the body
Or option B is a more modern angry eyes style.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 04:17:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 04:17:25 PM
Option B
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 04:28:23 PM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 04:28:23 PM
Ill have a look when ive finished my beer and go to fridge...as too sunny to look at piccys
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 05:07:12 PM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 05:07:12 PM
Option b!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 06:24:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 06:24:27 PM
Ok 1 for b
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on April 26, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
Post by: rote8 on April 26, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
B for me despite my earlier input.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 07:59:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 07:59:31 PM
Cool 2 for B
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Post by: Casey on April 26, 2020, 08:07:40 PM
Post by: Casey on April 26, 2020, 08:07:40 PM
Yep, I think B works best too.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 26, 2020, 08:44:03 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2020, 08:44:03 PM
option A / traditional
B is for BMW style lights
So I go A ;)
B is for BMW style lights
So I go A ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:15:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:15:21 PM
Ooo Clive !
Controversial
3-1
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Controversial
3-1
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 10:19:35 PM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2020, 10:19:35 PM
Theres always 1 im sure wich ever you choose will be great...im intrigued how your your gonna make it!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
Watch this space and think of snooker tables
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 27, 2020, 09:15:30 AM
Post by: clive on April 27, 2020, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
Watch this space and think of snooker tables
Trying to work out what are you are saying to Jon, its either balls or get your hands out of my pockets :)) :)) :)) (only joking)
Seriously, what ever you choose as with all the other work, I'm sure the covers will look great. :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
Quote from: clive on April 27, 2020, 09:15:30 AMLol neither.Quote from: Jamie R on April 26, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
Watch this space and think of snooker tables
Trying to work out what are you are saying to Jon, its either balls or get your hands out of my pockets :)) :)) :)) (only joking)
Seriously, what ever you choose as with all the other work, I'm sure the covers will look great. :great:
I’m gonna make a male and female former out of grp. Hang some polycarbonate on the conveyer system that goes through the powder coating oven, then when is comes out all floppy, shape it between the formers.
I’ve read if you line the formers with baize (snooker table felt) the polycarbonate will slide nicely and not catch anywhere when you squeeze the formers together.
If it all goes tits up I’ve found a place in Colchester that could help
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:34:57 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:34:57 AM
Ive bent it with a heat gun at work to make machine guards...
Temperature critical..too much bubbles and melts.
Hot gun along a cut edge turns white edge back to see through.
Fingers crossed! Dont forget the hot mitts!
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Temperature critical..too much bubbles and melts.
Hot gun along a cut edge turns white edge back to see through.
Fingers crossed! Dont forget the hot mitts!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:50:03 AM
Yeah you can kinda get away with it on 2D forms.
But plonker here wanted a 3D shape, as if I don’t have enough to do lol.
I could have kept it simple, but when it was all finished I would have wished I push myself a bit more
I’m gonna cut some samples and chuck them through the oven see if they bubble up
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But plonker here wanted a 3D shape, as if I don’t have enough to do lol.
I could have kept it simple, but when it was all finished I would have wished I push myself a bit more
I’m gonna cut some samples and chuck them through the oven see if they bubble up
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:52:27 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:52:27 AM
Yes prob some test pieces at diff temperatures...prob also with the felt to see if it sticks to it...
Dont want furry lenses.
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Dont want furry lenses.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:53:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 09:53:15 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:52:27 AMLol I’ve had worse things in life
Yes prob some test pieces at diff temperatures...prob also with the felt to see if it sticks to it...
Dont want furry lenses.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:59:11 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2020, 09:59:11 AM
Plan b if dont work...harvest some from production headlights. Ive put standard bugeye impreza headlights in oven at 150 for 10 mins to melt the bond and simply prised off the covers.
Then painted inards black sti style back in oven to resoften bond and voila back together and on ebay for 150 for the pair. ( bought for a tenner ea).
There will be loads of headlight lenses to chose from...hopefully you nail it.
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Then painted inards black sti style back in oven to resoften bond and voila back together and on ebay for 150 for the pair. ( bought for a tenner ea).
There will be loads of headlight lenses to chose from...hopefully you nail it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
LOL Arthur Daley
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 12:03:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 12:03:20 PM
So been playing today with 3mm acrylic
It’s goes nice n soft, the blank size I want I think I will do it at home, cleaner environment. And I can adjust the temp.
I’ll get in trouble if I fiddle with the works oven and the powder coat may not cure properly lol
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It’s goes nice n soft, the blank size I want I think I will do it at home, cleaner environment. And I can adjust the temp.
I’ll get in trouble if I fiddle with the works oven and the powder coat may not cure properly lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2020, 07:03:38 PM
Well I’ve learned something today.......
Polycarbonate front screens are not road legal in the uk
I’m not sure why as you can have polycarbonate wind deflectors on things like westfields, and bubbles on motorbikes....
Also I think the MSA and FIA may not allow it either, but side and rear windows are fine in polycarbonate.
So bought 2 pieces of poly today.
A 1000 x 500 x 3 piece at 19 quid summat
And the same size but margard spec which is scratch resistant at a mind blowing 53 quid
I’ll practice on the cheap stuff first lol
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Polycarbonate front screens are not road legal in the uk
I’m not sure why as you can have polycarbonate wind deflectors on things like westfields, and bubbles on motorbikes....
Also I think the MSA and FIA may not allow it either, but side and rear windows are fine in polycarbonate.
So bought 2 pieces of poly today.
A 1000 x 500 x 3 piece at 19 quid summat
And the same size but margard spec which is scratch resistant at a mind blowing 53 quid
I’ll practice on the cheap stuff first lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on April 28, 2020, 11:20:09 AM
Post by: jinx on April 28, 2020, 11:20:09 AM
It's a safety thing I assume - polycarbonate scratches and is difficult to remove oil and water etc from. You don't (have to) look through aero screens or bike fairings etc but you have no choice with a windscreen. I don't think they've ever been legal for racing cars either. I remember being dispatched to the Pilkington works to collect the laminated screens for a sports car due to run at Le Mans. The ovens used to form coach windscreens were the only ones big enough to make them in those days and probably still are. They would give you three goes to get the fit perfect because the screens varied slightly depending how long they are fired and cooled for. [The first one cracked but still had to be paid for!] :)
Presumably the +2 screen came out of something else (like much of the rest of it?) so you should be able to find out what and order a replacement if it needs one, even if asking for one for a Lotus results in pained expressions and the suggestion it will cost a fortune. (The JDC began compiling a comparative parts numbers index years ago because Jaguar looted all sorts of bins for their bits and pieces but using the Jaguar number meant it came with a higher price tag. (E type headlights are from a Mini, the windscreen washers a Morris Minor, the arm rests out of a BMC lorry etc etc etc) For the record, I'd have said A like Clive but it's sometimes NOT the thought that counts ;D Avid follower of progress so far - your productivity ultimately shaming to my armchair dreamer!
Presumably the +2 screen came out of something else (like much of the rest of it?) so you should be able to find out what and order a replacement if it needs one, even if asking for one for a Lotus results in pained expressions and the suggestion it will cost a fortune. (The JDC began compiling a comparative parts numbers index years ago because Jaguar looted all sorts of bins for their bits and pieces but using the Jaguar number meant it came with a higher price tag. (E type headlights are from a Mini, the windscreen washers a Morris Minor, the arm rests out of a BMC lorry etc etc etc) For the record, I'd have said A like Clive but it's sometimes NOT the thought that counts ;D Avid follower of progress so far - your productivity ultimately shaming to my armchair dreamer!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 11:40:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 11:40:34 AM
Nice post jinx.
Yeah I still have the original, was just trying to save some weight.
I’ve seen some screens flex so I wondered if it was raining and you were travelling at high speed that the wipers would only touch in certain places lol
The screen is the same for consul Capri and gulp reliant scimitar lol
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Yeah I still have the original, was just trying to save some weight.
I’ve seen some screens flex so I wondered if it was raining and you were travelling at high speed that the wipers would only touch in certain places lol
The screen is the same for consul Capri and gulp reliant scimitar lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on April 28, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
Post by: jinx on April 28, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
Oh, in that case order one for the Consul :))
The Reliant option might attract exactly the same sort of winsome expression as asking for the Lotus item.
While we're on the subject...Consul Capri.... :love4: I was looking at them on an ad listings site. If they had been made in Italy in small numbers they'd be even more expensive than they regrettably are now. There was one for sale, close to me, re-upholstered in cream hide but otherwise standard. It was practically crying out for more oomph to be placed under the bonnet. Armchair dreaming again ;D
The Reliant option might attract exactly the same sort of winsome expression as asking for the Lotus item.
While we're on the subject...Consul Capri.... :love4: I was looking at them on an ad listings site. If they had been made in Italy in small numbers they'd be even more expensive than they regrettably are now. There was one for sale, close to me, re-upholstered in cream hide but otherwise standard. It was practically crying out for more oomph to be placed under the bonnet. Armchair dreaming again ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on April 28, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
Post by: rote8 on April 28, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
Quote from: jinx on April 28, 2020, 11:56:53 AMWhile we're on the subject...Consul Capri.... :love4:
Reminds me I had three Consul Classics, one standard 1500 coverted to Cortina GT engined and the second with a Corsair 2000 engine and the final one, a Jaguar beater (at the time), with a Ford V6 mated to the 2000 gearbox. all lowered and with wider wheels (8J's were big then) but still on the standard brakes (silly me :dontknow:).
All converted myself, but still nowhere near to the standards that this project has reached.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
I had a 2000e Corsair.
V4 with a 3 speed auto.
It was so smooth running.
Blue mink metallic with a black vinyl roof.
Loved it. 36k on the clock
Had drum brakes all round and used to get 4 wheel lock ups as the brakes out performed the skinny crossply tyres lol
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V4 with a 3 speed auto.
It was so smooth running.
Blue mink metallic with a black vinyl roof.
Loved it. 36k on the clock
Had drum brakes all round and used to get 4 wheel lock ups as the brakes out performed the skinny crossply tyres lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 07:27:42 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 07:27:42 PM
The V6 would have been a proper romper stomper in its day and would have sorted out most other road cars out there, as I'm sure you will remember Ray :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: rote8 on April 29, 2020, 09:06:41 AM
Post by: rote8 on April 29, 2020, 09:06:41 AM
Sure do :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on April 29, 2020, 07:49:22 PM
Post by: jinx on April 29, 2020, 07:49:22 PM
Unfortunately for some of us they kept putting them in things with the same brakes they fitted to the 1300 version :D
Vis: Early 3L Capri that would not slow down when asked until finally locking all four wheels and leaving me sliding across a junction onto a petrol forecourt - the light having happily changed to green as I slid towards it. It was, and remains, my fervent belief that I looked cool, calm and collected as I got out and sauntered across to the shop. I imagine eye witnesses might have a different take. ??? I drove back to the works extremely slowly.
Vis: Early 3L Capri that would not slow down when asked until finally locking all four wheels and leaving me sliding across a junction onto a petrol forecourt - the light having happily changed to green as I slid towards it. It was, and remains, my fervent belief that I looked cool, calm and collected as I got out and sauntered across to the shop. I imagine eye witnesses might have a different take. ??? I drove back to the works extremely slowly.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2020, 01:17:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2020, 01:17:35 PM
So the other day I was tinkering at work with acrylic in the oven.
The first piece got hot, melted off the hook and landed on the over floor so here is mk1 headlight lenses
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More garage wall art lol
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The first piece got hot, melted off the hook and landed on the over floor so here is mk1 headlight lenses
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More garage wall art lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 30, 2020, 08:27:47 PM
Post by: Casey on April 30, 2020, 08:27:47 PM
Your artwork rendition of the Shard building ;) ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 30, 2020, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: boosted on April 30, 2020, 09:32:25 PM
Next time at the beech, part bury it....some fool will dig it up...
Megladome tooth?
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Megladome tooth?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2020, 08:41:11 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2020, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 30, 2020, 09:32:25 PMLol yeah summat like that
Next time at the beech, part bury it....some fool will dig it up...
Megladome tooth?
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It definitely doesn’t fit
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
As this rack is for the Rotus ill do a little mini thread in here.
Clives write up on page 100 of his RX8 race car thread is very accurate. For the complete novice ( ME !) I feel a picture tells a thousand words, so will go into a bit more detail in case anyone wants simliar.
1, One faulty steering rack, which will be cannibalised.
2, Remove the track rod ends, the locking nuts, cut the bands holding on the boots/gaiters. There is a locking washer holding the nuts for the tack rods in place. Tap the bent over ears of the washer away from the locking nut. Undo the nut with a suitable spanner, or like me a pair of mole grips. Put track rods to one side............. keep all parts nearside and offside separate, just in case.
3,Undo the 4 x M8 bolts that hold the outer motor case and pull, prise, swear, tap it away from the rack, it will be tight, theres 2 o-rings, 1 each end, and magnets inside which could hold it in place. Remove the brushes and all plastic crap in the away, be brutal you dont need it. Undo the 2 screws connecting the wiring connector (black) on the outer part of the case and remove.
4, You need to be brutal, but careful. Run an angle grinder with cutting disc through the windings, its messy, theres a resin encasing it all, until you reach the inner steel sleeve of the windings. This is where you need to be careful as you need to cut it, but not too far or youll damage the steel sleeve underneath. Knowing what i know now, run a line down the windings and another 180 degrees on the other side, the steel sleeve will come away from the steel sleeve of the rack in 2 halves. Youll need chisels, hammers, coffee, colourful language, oh and dont forget eye protection please.
5, There are 6 large magnets inside the outer motor case, held in place by a thin wall steel housing and plastic holder. I was brutal here and just drove a wood chisel down inside the outer casing, Drive it down in about 3 places, break the magnets up and withdraw the hole magnet housing, be careful not to puncture the out motor case. Make sure you get rid of all small fragments of magnets. Should look like pic 5.
6, If you spin the sleeve that the windings used to sit on you notice the rack moves as well as the quill shaft (what the steering column connects to). Its this action that we want to negate. On the near side of the rack youll see a round plate with 4 holes ( bearing retainer), remove the circlip, i used a centre punch to tap the round retainer, in an anti clockwise direction. Wind out fully and put to one side.
Keep spinning the case that the windings used to sit on from lock to lock and the bearing housing will slide out, theres ball bearings everywhere. I pity the person who has to install these. Throw the lot away.
7, once done youll see the worm thread, if you spin the case that the windings sat on, it should just spin and the rack doesnt travel from lock to lock.
8, Clive used brass for this next stage, but I didnt have any that diameter, so I used a piece of nylon to make a new sleeve. You need a piece 43mm O.D, 27mm I.D. and 40mm long. Put a 45 degree chamfer on each end.
9, Push your new sleeve where the bearing used to be, wind the bearing retainer back in, (use the centre punch and a hammer to tighten it) re fit the circlip.
10, Remove the outer dust cover from the quill shaft. Undo the 3 x M6 bolts which hold down the torque sensor, prize it up and off the shaft.
The beige plastic piece seems like a shaft encoder of sorts, but i didnt like the colour so i thwacked it off with a chisel and hammer. Once removed youll see the quill shaft in 2 pieces with some dowells. I wanted to be nosey and look inside, but couldnt get it apart, oh well next stage.
4 more steps on the next post
Clives write up on page 100 of his RX8 race car thread is very accurate. For the complete novice ( ME !) I feel a picture tells a thousand words, so will go into a bit more detail in case anyone wants simliar.
1, One faulty steering rack, which will be cannibalised.
2, Remove the track rod ends, the locking nuts, cut the bands holding on the boots/gaiters. There is a locking washer holding the nuts for the tack rods in place. Tap the bent over ears of the washer away from the locking nut. Undo the nut with a suitable spanner, or like me a pair of mole grips. Put track rods to one side............. keep all parts nearside and offside separate, just in case.
3,Undo the 4 x M8 bolts that hold the outer motor case and pull, prise, swear, tap it away from the rack, it will be tight, theres 2 o-rings, 1 each end, and magnets inside which could hold it in place. Remove the brushes and all plastic crap in the away, be brutal you dont need it. Undo the 2 screws connecting the wiring connector (black) on the outer part of the case and remove.
4, You need to be brutal, but careful. Run an angle grinder with cutting disc through the windings, its messy, theres a resin encasing it all, until you reach the inner steel sleeve of the windings. This is where you need to be careful as you need to cut it, but not too far or youll damage the steel sleeve underneath. Knowing what i know now, run a line down the windings and another 180 degrees on the other side, the steel sleeve will come away from the steel sleeve of the rack in 2 halves. Youll need chisels, hammers, coffee, colourful language, oh and dont forget eye protection please.
5, There are 6 large magnets inside the outer motor case, held in place by a thin wall steel housing and plastic holder. I was brutal here and just drove a wood chisel down inside the outer casing, Drive it down in about 3 places, break the magnets up and withdraw the hole magnet housing, be careful not to puncture the out motor case. Make sure you get rid of all small fragments of magnets. Should look like pic 5.
6, If you spin the sleeve that the windings used to sit on you notice the rack moves as well as the quill shaft (what the steering column connects to). Its this action that we want to negate. On the near side of the rack youll see a round plate with 4 holes ( bearing retainer), remove the circlip, i used a centre punch to tap the round retainer, in an anti clockwise direction. Wind out fully and put to one side.
Keep spinning the case that the windings used to sit on from lock to lock and the bearing housing will slide out, theres ball bearings everywhere. I pity the person who has to install these. Throw the lot away.
7, once done youll see the worm thread, if you spin the case that the windings sat on, it should just spin and the rack doesnt travel from lock to lock.
8, Clive used brass for this next stage, but I didnt have any that diameter, so I used a piece of nylon to make a new sleeve. You need a piece 43mm O.D, 27mm I.D. and 40mm long. Put a 45 degree chamfer on each end.
9, Push your new sleeve where the bearing used to be, wind the bearing retainer back in, (use the centre punch and a hammer to tighten it) re fit the circlip.
10, Remove the outer dust cover from the quill shaft. Undo the 3 x M6 bolts which hold down the torque sensor, prize it up and off the shaft.
The beige plastic piece seems like a shaft encoder of sorts, but i didnt like the colour so i thwacked it off with a chisel and hammer. Once removed youll see the quill shaft in 2 pieces with some dowells. I wanted to be nosey and look inside, but couldnt get it apart, oh well next stage.
4 more steps on the next post
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:43:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:43:57 PM
11, TIG it, MIG it, dun matter, join it together, dont get it too hot.
12, Started cleaning it all up, wire wheels, degreaser, painted the outer motor shell in zinc primer then black. Youll need to put some silicone sealant in the hole where the black wire connector come from just to prevent water ingress. Bolt the outer casing back onto the rack, grease up the surfaces that have the o-rings, needs a tap home.
13, Refit the torque sensor housing and the outer dust cover.
14, Refit the track rods, tap the ears of the locking washer back into position. Refit the boots/gaiters, holding in place with cable ties/bands and circlips.
Et voila, took me a full day with painting.
12, Started cleaning it all up, wire wheels, degreaser, painted the outer motor shell in zinc primer then black. Youll need to put some silicone sealant in the hole where the black wire connector come from just to prevent water ingress. Bolt the outer casing back onto the rack, grease up the surfaces that have the o-rings, needs a tap home.
13, Refit the torque sensor housing and the outer dust cover.
14, Refit the track rods, tap the ears of the locking washer back into position. Refit the boots/gaiters, holding in place with cable ties/bands and circlips.
Et voila, took me a full day with painting.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 03:55:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 03:55:40 PM
Nice one Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:56:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:56:29 PM
Ya giving it a go ? Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 03:57:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 03:56:29 PMNah waiting for admin to send me your address so I can send mine to you lol
Ya giving it a go ? Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 04:00:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 04:00:18 PM
Haha haha.
It’s easy, for a man of your calibre !!
Just don’t get “dynamic†in the process lol
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It’s easy, for a man of your calibre !!
Just don’t get “dynamic†in the process lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 04:00:18 PMHa ha
Haha haha.
It’s easy, for a man of your calibre !!
Just don’t get “dynamic†in the process lol
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T*** lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 05:13:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 05:13:02 PM
Tool?
Tank
Tins
Tell
Toby
Wait I got this
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Tank
Tins
Tell
Toby
Wait I got this
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 05:13:02 PMI the words of Roald Dahl
Tool?
Tank
Tins
Tell
Toby
Wait I got this
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Twit
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 06:53:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 06:53:24 PM
Been called a damn sight worse lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 09:24:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 09:24:48 AM
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So I’ve ran out of filler for almost a week now. Which gives me chance to work on the jobs I need to do but keep putting off coz I’d rather get the bodywork f***** finished.
Hence, fixing the steering on the 8 (mr tracking man said disconnect the column again and turn the wheel to centralise or you’ll have more lock on one side that the other, so that might be today )
And fiddling around with manual racks yesterday
So today’s job is making decent jacking points. The steel hole circled is a tube welded to a steel crossmember in the grp sills.
The body is sandwiched between the crossmember and the roll cage, so this seems a strong enough area.
Problem one, I intend on fitting side skirts which will cover up the 4 holes, 2 on each crossmember.
The question is, do I make little adaptors that screw into each one, and hang lower than the sill or modify a lightweight scissor hack that stays in the car hmmmm
Now I wish I had more ground clearance. Or some pneumatic air rams like on race cars.
Pffft
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So I’ve ran out of filler for almost a week now. Which gives me chance to work on the jobs I need to do but keep putting off coz I’d rather get the bodywork f***** finished.
Hence, fixing the steering on the 8 (mr tracking man said disconnect the column again and turn the wheel to centralise or you’ll have more lock on one side that the other, so that might be today )
And fiddling around with manual racks yesterday
So today’s job is making decent jacking points. The steel hole circled is a tube welded to a steel crossmember in the grp sills.
The body is sandwiched between the crossmember and the roll cage, so this seems a strong enough area.
Problem one, I intend on fitting side skirts which will cover up the 4 holes, 2 on each crossmember.
The question is, do I make little adaptors that screw into each one, and hang lower than the sill or modify a lightweight scissor hack that stays in the car hmmmm
Now I wish I had more ground clearance. Or some pneumatic air rams like on race cars.
Pffft
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
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The things ya do when you’re bored lol
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The things ya do when you’re bored lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
Bloody tv broke today too so I can’t do that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:04:22 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:04:22 PM
So you’ve got a steel tube hole for jacking like the rally cars have ?
Could you not fit cills then drill a hole and put a nice shroud around them ?
I’ll have to get a photo of the scissor jack you need
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Could you not fit cills then drill a hole and put a nice shroud around them ?
I’ll have to get a photo of the scissor jack you need
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:19:53 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:19:53 PM
This is what I use to jack mine on track days as it’s pretty low . It has a half inch socket welded on the end for impact driver - works a treat
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So add a bracket both sides and a tube from it which should slide into your jacking point
Here’s a CAD version
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So add a bracket both sides and a tube from it which should slide into your jacking point
Here’s a CAD version
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:20:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:20:31 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:04:22 PMAh the rally car tubes sit horizontally I remember that from my old mk1 escort days then they have like an a-frame axle stand.
So you’ve got a steel tube hole for jacking like the rally cars have ?
Could you not fit cills then drill a hole and put a nice shroud around them ?
I’ll have to get a photo of the scissor jack you need
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Good set up that
The tubes on mine are vertical, I’ve made an adapter now that sits up inside and clips on my scissor jack, seems to work ok. Or good enough to get me out a pickle at the side of the road.
I don’t suppose anyone has the stock rx8 wheel brace surplus to requirements???
I’ve lined the Toyota auris space saver with grp, the expanding foam gonna make cut outs for the tools to go in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:22:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:22:23 PM
I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:35:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:22:23 PMNo worries
I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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Turn the jack on it’s side
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:35:39 PMHahahaQuote from: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 06:22:23 PMNo worries
I think the cardboard will bend Wayne lolll
I knew what you meant tho buddy
I like your idea of the socket, I’m stealing that one. The standard cranking handle is junk
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Turn the jack on it’s side
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:14:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:14:08 PM
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Making sanding tools
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:14:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:14:32 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:39:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 12:39:01 PM
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One down one to go
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One down one to go
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2020, 01:18:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2020, 01:18:42 PM
That’s taking shape now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Slowly yeah
And no your eyes don’t deceive you......
This is tool of the day
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And no your eyes don’t deceive you......
This is tool of the day
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 09, 2020, 01:59:14 PM
Post by: clive on May 09, 2020, 01:59:14 PM
Soooo much patiance ;)
Just a thought, have you considered lightly smoked plexiglass for the head lamps, could look quite trick.
Just a thought, have you considered lightly smoked plexiglass for the head lamps, could look quite trick.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 02:01:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: clive on May 09, 2020, 01:59:14 PMNope , but just like when someone asked me if I was bi-lingual, my response was.....
Soooo much patiance ;)
Just a thought, have you considered lightly smoked plexiglass for the head lamps, could look quite trick.
I’ll try anything once
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
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Finally headlight pockets in primer.
I can start prepping for taking this pattern off and mould making
Clive, I think we’re on the same wavelength regarding the tint, but I was planning a different route.
The recessed area that you see above that the polycarbonate sits in was going to be painted satin black so it contrasts from the rest of the body colour
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Finally headlight pockets in primer.
I can start prepping for taking this pattern off and mould making
Clive, I think we’re on the same wavelength regarding the tint, but I was planning a different route.
The recessed area that you see above that the polycarbonate sits in was going to be painted satin black so it contrasts from the rest of the body colour
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 04:38:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 04:38:34 PM
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A similar idea to this
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A similar idea to this
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2020, 07:56:36 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2020, 07:56:36 PM
Awesome work Mate!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 08:38:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2020, 08:38:19 PM
Cheers bud
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2020, 10:35:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2020, 10:35:57 AM
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First bit of the mould underway
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First bit of the mould underway
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 10, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
Post by: Casey on May 10, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
Some more good progress Jamie :)
You are getting there, bit by bit :13:
You are getting there, bit by bit :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2020, 11:04:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2020, 11:04:51 AM
Well I got my mot Tuesday lolllll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 02:50:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 02:50:19 PM
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Crikey oh Riley
It’s off
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Crikey oh Riley
It’s off
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
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Must be 40 -50 kg of wood, filler and other crap.
Good job the real thing will be light
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Must be 40 -50 kg of wood, filler and other crap.
Good job the real thing will be light
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 11, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 11, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
What’s next then Jamie
Is that your template ?
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Is that your template ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
Yeah, that’s the pattern.
Finish sanding all the primer smooth, wax, gel coat then start laying more fibreglass round the outside.
Take all the mould panels, unbolt them. Take the pattern that I’ve spent 3 months on and throw it in the skip lol.
Bolt the mould back together. Wax, gel coat, lay up glass in the inside.
Demould and hopefully I have a majestic looking body panel that weighs bugger all
It kills me to throw the patterns away. So much work goes into them. But I don’t have the room and they’re too fragile.
I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
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Finish sanding all the primer smooth, wax, gel coat then start laying more fibreglass round the outside.
Take all the mould panels, unbolt them. Take the pattern that I’ve spent 3 months on and throw it in the skip lol.
Bolt the mould back together. Wax, gel coat, lay up glass in the inside.
Demould and hopefully I have a majestic looking body panel that weighs bugger all
It kills me to throw the patterns away. So much work goes into them. But I don’t have the room and they’re too fragile.
I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 05:16:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 05:16:21 PM
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Gormless lookin smile on it
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Gormless lookin smile on it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2020, 02:12:09 PM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2020, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
That's what I like to see, planning ahead, or should that be panelling ahead.....? ;D
You thinking of mass production with all these moulds? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 13, 2020, 06:01:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 13, 2020, 06:01:30 AM
Quote from: Casey on May 12, 2020, 02:12:09 PMWell if someone else is stupid enough like me to carve up a perfectly good car, then yeah I could as a sideline.Quote from: Jamie R on May 11, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
I keep all the moulds in case I prang the car I can make new panels
That's what I like to see, planning ahead, or should that be panelling ahead.....? ;D
You thinking of mass production with all these moulds? ;) ;D
I dun think I’ll be paying the mortgage anytime soon with the proceeds lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2020, 09:39:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2020, 09:39:36 AM
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Well I’ve not seen that angle for a while
Time to start prepping
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Well I’ve not seen that angle for a while
Time to start prepping
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 18, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 18, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
More laser cut bits arriving
Roberts Engineering logo lol
Just happens to be the same as Rotary Engine..... strange that.
Roberts Engineering logo lol
Just happens to be the same as Rotary Engine..... strange that.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 19, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 19, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Stickers for the badges
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Oh yeah, quality, love it Jamie :great:
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Post by: boosted on May 19, 2020, 07:01:29 PM
Post by: boosted on May 19, 2020, 07:01:29 PM
Awesome.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Absolute tart
Nice design
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Nice design
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 20, 2020, 07:05:49 AM
Post by: re japi on May 20, 2020, 07:05:49 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 19, 2020, 11:22:34 AMBrilliant, really like them
Stickers for the badges
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:18:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:18:39 PM
Win some lose some
Tried an experiment today which didn’t pay off. I’m on basic Tapatalk so multiple posts for pics
Rotor shaped centre caps
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Logo
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Tried an experiment today which didn’t pay off. I’m on basic Tapatalk so multiple posts for pics
Rotor shaped centre caps
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Logo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
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One mould
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One mould
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:19:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:19:50 PM
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Solid block of resin n matting
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Solid block of resin n matting
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:20:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:20:16 PM
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Demoulded
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Demoulded
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
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Machine it down
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:21:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:21:25 PM
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Groove for an o ring
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Groove for an o ring
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:06 PM
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It misses the wheel nuts
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It misses the wheel nuts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:25:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:25:02 PM
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But when you bolt the wheel to the car, the hub pokes through the centre of the wheel where the centre cap sits lol
Oh well, only wasted about £5 of materials and a play in the shed.
Plan b
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But when you bolt the wheel to the car, the hub pokes through the centre of the wheel where the centre cap sits lol
Oh well, only wasted about £5 of materials and a play in the shed.
Plan b
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:15:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:15:50 PM
Which is ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
???? I’m confuzzled
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:41:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 09:17:09 PM
???? I’m confuzzled
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Sleep on a bottle of red
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 07:51:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:15:50 PMAhh gotcha now I’m sober,
Which is ?
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Small aluminium caps which sit over the central hole, not in it.
Something less flamboyant, maybe just a rotor shape within the cap. Or a rotus sticker.
The lotus originally had knock on spinners to bolt the wheels on.
Was going for a look that mimics that but had a feel of those rotor shaped alloys ya see on the old mazdas.
Win some lose some lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 07:51:45 AMI got youQuote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:15:50 PMAhh gotcha now I’m sober,
Which is ?
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Small aluminium caps which sit over the central hole, not in it.
Something less flamboyant, maybe just a rotor shape within the cap. Or a rotus sticker.
The lotus originally had knock on spinners to bolt the wheels on.
Was going for a look that mimics that but had a feel of those rotor shaped alloys ya see on the old mazdas.
Win some lose some lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 31, 2020, 10:16:23 AM
Post by: re japi on May 31, 2020, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:39 PMThats brilliant
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 10:19:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 31, 2020, 10:16:23 AMOn paper yes,Quote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2020, 05:22:39 PMThats brilliant
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It don’t look bad at all !!!
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Shame they don’t work lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 09:33:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 09:33:02 AM
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So last night had a catastrophic incident thankfully avoided.
Been working on this part now since feb. A LOT of hours have gone into it.
There’s around 40-50kgs there, a mixture of wood, polystyrene but mainly filler. Then all the grp around the outside.
Saturday I decided to brace the grp with steel tubing so when I’m making product it triangulates the structure and keeps the right shape.........
...... that was my saving grace !!!
I’m sat in the garden drinking with Emma last night to hear a massive bang from the shed. The table which the pattern is sat on gave way and collapsed.
Thankfully the car wasn’t hit, and the pattern fell vertically straight down.
The only damage was a wooden brace snapped off within won’t hurt as I’m finished with that part, and part of the mould has pre released. A screw will rectify that and repair the mould after.
If I hadn’t fitted the steel tube I’m certain it would have snapped in half
Very very lucky.
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So last night had a catastrophic incident thankfully avoided.
Been working on this part now since feb. A LOT of hours have gone into it.
There’s around 40-50kgs there, a mixture of wood, polystyrene but mainly filler. Then all the grp around the outside.
Saturday I decided to brace the grp with steel tubing so when I’m making product it triangulates the structure and keeps the right shape.........
...... that was my saving grace !!!
I’m sat in the garden drinking with Emma last night to hear a massive bang from the shed. The table which the pattern is sat on gave way and collapsed.
Thankfully the car wasn’t hit, and the pattern fell vertically straight down.
The only damage was a wooden brace snapped off within won’t hurt as I’m finished with that part, and part of the mould has pre released. A screw will rectify that and repair the mould after.
If I hadn’t fitted the steel tube I’m certain it would have snapped in half
Very very lucky.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 01, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
Post by: clive on June 01, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
Pleased all is well, bet that made you jump ???
The other thing will be with you today.
The other thing will be with you today.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 11:05:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 11:05:57 AM
Quote from: clive on June 01, 2020, 10:31:40 AMMade my bum twitch !
Pleased all is well, bet that made you jump ???
The other thing will be with you today.
Cheers Clive
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 01, 2020, 04:39:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 01, 2020, 04:39:17 PM
Another close shave .........
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2020, 06:04:06 PM
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2020, 06:04:06 PM
Glad toy hear you got away with it - lucky man ;) :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 01, 2020, 04:39:17 PMLike the one on my face yeah ?
Another close shave .........
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More chins than a Chinese phone book
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Right said Fred.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 01, 2020, 09:07:26 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 01, 2020, 09:07:26 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 01, 2020, 08:10:45 PMGotcha
Right said Fred.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 09:09:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2020, 09:09:50 PM
See you next Tuesday
Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 02, 2020, 10:55:06 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 03, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 03, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
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Something was sticking, welp, break the pattern out the mould
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2020, 12:15:26 AM
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2020, 12:15:26 AM
??? ??? does that look as bad as I think it does, or is the mould OK and all you need now?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2020, 05:03:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2020, 05:03:08 AM
I finished mould making, it just won’t pop off nicely, something is sticking around the ducts. So I’m just removing the mould in reverse.
Don’t panic mr manwaring
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2020, 04:40:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2020, 04:40:16 PM
Still alive!
been quiet lately, work taking over my life. My boss n I have been running the 20 acre site where im based for the last 10-11 weeks while everyone else is working from home.
Monday they decided to split the workforce into 2 teams, So I've been running the site solo this week while the other team is on furlough.
The upside is im now furloughed and being paid to work on the Rotus until Monday 29th ! Happy days.
That said, been prepping the moulds today for minor defects, waxed and gelcoat.
Finally laying up glass on the end product tomorrow. Its been a long slog this part
been quiet lately, work taking over my life. My boss n I have been running the 20 acre site where im based for the last 10-11 weeks while everyone else is working from home.
Monday they decided to split the workforce into 2 teams, So I've been running the site solo this week while the other team is on furlough.
The upside is im now furloughed and being paid to work on the Rotus until Monday 29th ! Happy days.
That said, been prepping the moulds today for minor defects, waxed and gelcoat.
Finally laying up glass on the end product tomorrow. Its been a long slog this part
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 06, 2020, 06:44:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 06, 2020, 06:44:46 PM
Can’t wait to see the end result
Pull your finger out
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 06, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 06, 2020, 06:44:46 PMI’m trying man lol
Can’t wait to see the end result
Pull your finger out
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 10, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 10, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
Happy birthday Mr Roberts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2020, 10:58:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2020, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 10, 2020, 09:14:17 PMThanks butt
Happy birthday Mr Roberts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 05:28:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 05:28:09 PM
Well finally it’s all laid.
Foam in the necessary places
Unbolt it all tomorrow
Fingers crossed
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Foam in the necessary places
Unbolt it all tomorrow
Fingers crossed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 12, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 12, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
I look forward to seeing it tomorrow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 05:36:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 12, 2020, 05:35:53 PMMe too
I look forward to seeing it tomorrow
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just hope it’s worth all the effort for the last 4 months
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2020, 05:36:45 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2020, 05:36:45 PM
Fingers crossed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2020, 08:49:25 PM
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2020, 08:49:25 PM
:happy1: waiting......... ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
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It’s off
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:28:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:28:13 AM
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Remove the flashing and excess foam
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Remove the flashing and excess foam
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:28:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:28:39 AM
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Nice crisp details
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
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Lightweight baby
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 10:41:39 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 10:41:39 AM
Fair play to you
Looks real good that
Well worth the hard work
How many layers of fibreglass has gone into that ?
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Looks real good that
Well worth the hard work
How many layers of fibreglass has gone into that ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:43:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:43:33 AM
2 in most of it 3 in critical areas, then filled the 20mm wide void of the splitter with foam to aid rigidity
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:07:45 PM
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:07:45 PM
Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you?
Hows Emma doing ?
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Youve lost weight too havent you?
Hows Emma doing ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:09:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:09:11 PM
Nah just the angle bud, I enjoy food n booze too much. Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:12:06 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:12:06 PM
Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done
What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:14:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:14:22 PM
First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:15:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:07:45 PMEmma’s good thanks,
Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you?
Hows Emma doing ?
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Walking 2-3 miles everyday. Coming on leaps n bounds
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:17:39 PM
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:17:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:12:06 PMLol!!! Bit like buying flowers for the Mrs..." what do you want ? Or what have you done ?"
Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done
What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:18:07 PM
Post by: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:15:05 PMBrill!Quote from: boosted on June 13, 2020, 02:07:45 PMEmma’s good thanks,
Awesome!
Youve lost weight too havent you?
Hows Emma doing ?
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Walking 2-3 miles everyday. Coming on leaps n bounds
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:25:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:12:06 PMLol I’ve offered enough times, I’m not gonna beg for the work I have plenty on lolllll
Ha ha me thinks Mr boosted needs some fibreglass work done
What grade fibreglass is it Jamie ?
Assuming there are different grades ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:26:25 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:14:22 PMSo just like fibreglass roofing grade ?
First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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Wow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 02:26:25 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200613/4c7921bc623782c1bdc0fa104fcf60d1.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:14:22 PMSo just like fibreglass roofing grade ?
First layer is regular 300 gram chopped strand any following layers 450 gram,
No exotic materials on this I’m on a budget lol
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Wow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
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Yeah I guess so
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
The process isn’t hard,
I’ve done hardly any fibreglassing before this project.
I watched a few you tube vids and had a go
The worst thing is the mess, dust n resin everywhere.
So tempted to blow the sanding dust over Emma’s knickers
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I’ve done hardly any fibreglassing before this project.
I watched a few you tube vids and had a go
The worst thing is the mess, dust n resin everywhere.
So tempted to blow the sanding dust over Emma’s knickers
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:21:04 PM
Post by: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:27:35 AMLooks excellent, well done than man
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It’s off
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:21:04 PMCheersQuote from: Jamie R on June 13, 2020, 10:27:35 AMLooks excellent, well done than man
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It’s off
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 03:21:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 03:21:26 PM
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Headlights n winkers on
Get close to polycarbonate covers.......
Gulp !
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Headlights n winkers on
Get close to polycarbonate covers.......
Gulp !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 03:35:26 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 03:35:26 PM
Nice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 15, 2020, 09:35:36 PM
Post by: Casey on June 15, 2020, 09:35:36 PM
Awesomely great looking piece of artwork there :13:
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Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 10:01:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 10:01:55 PM
Quote from: Casey on June 15, 2020, 09:35:36 PMNeeds some paint lol
Awesomely great looking piece of artwork there :13:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:20:18 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:20:18 AM
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Next piece
Any ideas?
Wayne I’d be disappointed if you didn’t get this
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Next piece
Any ideas?
Wayne I’d be disappointed if you didn’t get this
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2020, 08:31:52 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2020, 08:31:52 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:20:18 AMLike they have on top of buses , is it so you can get Wi Fi onboard
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Next piece
Any ideas?
Wayne I’d be disappointed if you didn’t get this
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
BMW shark aerial ?
Lol Wayne not quite
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2020, 08:36:50 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2020, 08:36:50 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:35:43 AMYeah man ha ha
BMW shark aerial ?
Lol Wayne not quite
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Must be a fresh air vent then
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:37:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2020, 08:37:22 AM
Good man
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
Can anyone help?
Done away with water pump in readiness for locating ewp.
Fitted a blanking plate but now I’m a pulley down I’ve ran out of adjustment on the alternator.
Has anyone done similar conversion ?
If its as simple as a shorter belt does anyone have a spec?
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Done away with water pump in readiness for locating ewp.
Fitted a blanking plate but now I’m a pulley down I’ve ran out of adjustment on the alternator.
Has anyone done similar conversion ?
If its as simple as a shorter belt does anyone have a spec?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 20, 2020, 11:22:17 AM
Post by: boosted on June 20, 2020, 11:22:17 AM
Put the alternator in middle of adjuster and then see how much slack you got. minus that from current belt. remove belt the number should be on it which is its length. trundled off to motor factors and buy a new shorter belt. current belt minus slack equals new belt.
there are step changes in belt sizes so buy 2 sizes and that should avoid disappointment.
there are step changes in belt sizes so buy 2 sizes and that should avoid disappointment.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 11:27:16 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 11:27:16 AM
Done it bud
The stock is 5pk817
And I bought a 5pk800 off eBay
Thanks for the response tho mate
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The stock is 5pk817
And I bought a 5pk800 off eBay
Thanks for the response tho mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
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Part A of the roof vent done
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Part A of the roof vent done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on June 20, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
Post by: jinx on June 20, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
Have to ask...accepting that you never sleep and appear to be able to do everything - is there a master spreadsheet, collection of fag packets, table napkins or blackboard somewhere on which you list tasks and chart progress? I get dizzy jumping from alternators to air vents and just wondered how you kept track of it all. :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Oh god no I make it up as I go along. Today is the first day I scrapped an idea and gone back to the drawing board, photo below.
I don’t have any drawings of how it’s gonna look. I know what’s in my head but I can’t put words to it lol.
I’ll get all the bodywork done when look at mechanicals
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I don’t have any drawings of how it’s gonna look. I know what’s in my head but I can’t put words to it lol.
I’ll get all the bodywork done when look at mechanicals
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 07:24:29 PMLooks like a fan to take the air from your roof scoop
Oh god no I make it up as I go along. Today is the first day I scrapped an idea and gone back to the drawing board, photo below.
I don’t have any drawings of how it’s gonna look. I know what’s in my head but I can’t put words to it lol.
I’ll get all the bodywork done when look at mechanicals
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Good idea
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 11:03:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2020, 11:03:16 PM
Lol
I built the exit duct for the rad before I built the front end,with hindsight it looked like a wart on a models face
Soon have a new one
👍👍👍
I built the exit duct for the rad before I built the front end,with hindsight it looked like a wart on a models face
Soon have a new one
👍👍👍
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: jinx on June 20, 2020, 07:15:19 PMJinx I wish I could do everything, I can’t spray, I’m rubbish at the understanding of auto electrics. I’ve never rebuilt a 4 stroke engine myself.
Have to ask...accepting that you never sleep and appear to be able to do everything - is there a master spreadsheet, collection of fag packets, table napkins or blackboard somewhere on which you list tasks and chart progress? I get dizzy jumping from alternators to air vents and just wondered how you kept track of it all. :D
I know my limitations, I’d rather pay someone to do what they’re good at
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
I always used to joke about the originality of this louts and the only stock thing left on it was the roof panel ........ whoops
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on June 21, 2020, 07:00:25 PM
Post by: jinx on June 21, 2020, 07:00:25 PM
Hooray...score one (small) point for the armchair dreamer. :D I can paint....just not get anything I've ever made in glass fibre out of the mould intact, which makes being able to paint it....vaguely pointless. ;D.
BTW - As to originality - have you overlooked the doors? I seem to remember they still look like they did when it left Hethel?
BTW - As to originality - have you overlooked the doors? I seem to remember they still look like they did when it left Hethel?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: jinx on June 21, 2020, 07:00:25 PMNo inner skin, they’re a bit floppy atmo.
Hooray...score one (small) point for the armchair dreamer. :D I can paint....just not get anything I've ever made in glass fibre out of the mould intact, which makes being able to paint it....vaguely pointless. ;D.
BTW - As to originality - have you overlooked the doors? I seem to remember they still look like they did when it left Hethel?
Thinking of fitting door bars to the cage.
Not for safety, summat to perch on gettin in an out coz those kirkey seats come sharp.
The door bars will go into the void of the door for more room so a custom “door card†is required.
The side windows will be polycarbonate and fixed hence the need for a roof vent. So they won’t interfere with the door bars.
Lots to do.
Good man on the paint
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 02:48:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 02:48:19 PM
The redneck lathe
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
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Smooth enough for filler
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 03:10:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2020, 03:10:24 PM
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Do you want chilli and salad with your kebab sir ?
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Do you want chilli and salad with your kebab sir ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 23, 2020, 10:20:03 PM
Post by: boosted on June 23, 2020, 10:20:03 PM
Donah kebab hot sauce n chips for me...give the salad to the rabbit!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
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I’m happy with that
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I’m happy with that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 29, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 29, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 06:20:12 PMSo you should be pal
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I’m happy with that
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That’s a cracking job
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 07:59:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 29, 2020, 06:54:50 PMThanks WayneQuote from: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 06:20:12 PMSo you should be pal
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I’m happy with that
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That’s a cracking job
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The bottom part that’s bolted to the roof I made again from scratch......
The tolerances were too tight and the lid wouldn’t go over the upstand on the sides.
I took the original off, threw it away in a fit of temper, took the mould, cut it into 3 pieces to remove 10 mm out the width, bonded the mould back together and made a new piece. Made the drain tube more of a horizontal angle too so the pipe can go over the main hoop of the tool cage
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 08:01:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 08:01:10 PM
Roll cage .... bloody tool cage
That would be a cage to hold me in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 29, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
Post by: Casey on June 29, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
Liking the look of that, nice lines :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 09:00:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2020, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: Casey on June 29, 2020, 08:57:52 PMThanks Malcolm
Liking the look of that, nice lines :13:
I’ve virtually ripped off the one from demon tweeks but with the curvature of the lotus roof.
I didn’t wanna pay the 300 quid when I can make one lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 30, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 30, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
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Filter arrived Clive
Many thanks
Money sent too
Just gotta make a custom air box now ..... I’ll add it to the list of jobs that’s escalating
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Filter arrived Clive
Many thanks
Money sent too
Just gotta make a custom air box now ..... I’ll add it to the list of jobs that’s escalating
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Thanks Jamie, appreciated :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 05:07:39 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 05:07:39 PM
You phone keeps calling me!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
What was kebab used for?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 04, 2020, 05:07:39 PMI thought it was vibrating in my pocket something down there must have dialled you lol
You phone keeps calling me!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 05:39:35 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 05:39:35 PM
Lol! 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:39:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:39:58 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:20:37 PMOooo not finished that one yet. It’s part of a pattern for exit ducts on the back of the red fans.
What was kebab used for?
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Waiting for polyurethane foam to arrive, then do pie cuts with my giganormous mitre block
I’ll throw some pics up at the time
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:40:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:40:14 PM
Rad fans ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:55:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:55:42 PM
Ahh, do wish I had the patience you do to undertake such things.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 06:00:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 04, 2020, 05:55:42 PMI wish I was driving it believe me lol
Ahh, do wish I had the patience you do to undertake such things.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2020, 06:15:28 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2020, 06:15:28 PM
Love it
Looks like a magic box
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 06, 2020, 07:41:27 PM
Post by: Casey on July 06, 2020, 07:41:27 PM
Intriguing..............
:happy1:
:happy1:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2020, 08:15:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2020, 08:15:42 PM
I got loads of little mini projects on the go at the same time.
I've been taking pics, I'll do a mass upload soon.
Still havnt decided wether the kebab meat style duct is the right route to go yet, may do a conventional style aluminium duct yet.
Lots of things to weigh up, the air intake, access to all the other components, being able to even fit it in the car, rad hose routing, the opening in the bonnet.
Lots of things up in the air
I've been taking pics, I'll do a mass upload soon.
Still havnt decided wether the kebab meat style duct is the right route to go yet, may do a conventional style aluminium duct yet.
Lots of things to weigh up, the air intake, access to all the other components, being able to even fit it in the car, rad hose routing, the opening in the bonnet.
Lots of things up in the air
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2020, 11:39:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2020, 11:39:47 AM
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Now ya see it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2020, 11:40:16 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2020, 11:40:16 AM
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Now ya don’t
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2020, 07:27:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2020, 07:27:09 AM
Well,
The "kebab" idea isnt working for me...... Shame, a lot of effort went into it, but thats prototyping. Ya have to get so far with something physical in your hands rather than staring at it.
It a bold move to go, no stop, and back to the drawing board, but I could have wasted even more time.
Next idea is underway, Ill post pics when its done I think.
More holes going in the bulkhead
Airbox underway going in passenger footwell up behind the glove box.
New centre caps for the steel wheels as the previous ones didnt work.
Incisions on the new front end to make it mm perfect
The "kebab" idea isnt working for me...... Shame, a lot of effort went into it, but thats prototyping. Ya have to get so far with something physical in your hands rather than staring at it.
It a bold move to go, no stop, and back to the drawing board, but I could have wasted even more time.
Next idea is underway, Ill post pics when its done I think.
More holes going in the bulkhead
Airbox underway going in passenger footwell up behind the glove box.
New centre caps for the steel wheels as the previous ones didnt work.
Incisions on the new front end to make it mm perfect
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 12, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
Post by: re japi on July 12, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
Absolutely brilliant work
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2020, 08:54:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 12, 2020, 08:54:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 12, 2020, 08:17:03 AMCheers Kaveri
Absolutely brilliant work
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Longgggg way to go yet, I was hoping for completion this Xmas. However the realisation of making panels 3 times (pattern, mould and product) means it will get finished when it’s finished.
I’m not gonna rush it and make a dogs ear of it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:08 PM
A break from fibreglass
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:22 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 03:37:41 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 04:16:12 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 04:16:12 PM
Air box ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 04:31:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 04:31:52 PM
Yeah with rx8 sized k&n panel filter.
Original cone ram air filter up front wasn’t working for me
Air box in the passenger foot well behind the dash.
Access panel in the bulkhead and air intake comes from a high pressure cavity in between the inner and outer near side wing before it reaches the filter.
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Original cone ram air filter up front wasn’t working for me
Air box in the passenger foot well behind the dash.
Access panel in the bulkhead and air intake comes from a high pressure cavity in between the inner and outer near side wing before it reaches the filter.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:32:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:32:22 PM
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Boobies mk2
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:38:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:38:51 AM
Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 11:41:51 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:38:51 AMNice lines on there Jamie
Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Very nice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 11:42:38 AM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 11:42:38 AM
Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:51:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 25, 2020, 11:42:38 AMMaroon ?
Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 12:01:15 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:51:56 AMQuote from: boosted on July 25, 2020, 11:42:38 AMMaroon ?
Looking mean...nice vibrant colour needed..
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I’d like to see it with a flash of primer so The front is all one colour .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 12:23:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 12:23:55 PM
Yeah that would help tremendously
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 12:25:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 12:25:48 PM
Very impressed 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 25, 2020, 12:59:08 PM
Post by: Casey on July 25, 2020, 12:59:08 PM
Lines are looking really good Jamie :notworthy:
As said, be good to see in a single colour to get a better idea, but looking great :great:
As said, be good to see in a single colour to get a better idea, but looking great :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 01:07:24 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 01:07:24 PM
But not maroon.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:12:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:12:30 PM
I had some spray outs done in maroon
One is imperial maroon the other black-red
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One is imperial maroon the other black-red
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
I’m not sold on them yet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
Could go Chevrolet sunburst orange with a silver roof and silver steel wheels
But it’s metallic ££££££
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:20:58 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 01:20:59 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:12:30 PMNice pin stripe
I had some spray outs done in maroon
One is imperial maroon the other black-red
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Looks like a chrome piece for the old Wolsey doors .
Colour would match a Wolsey too .
It’s just such a shame that general public wouldn’t know how much work you have put in to it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:21:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:21:55 PM
Wolsley cool lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:22:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 01:20:58 PMJon this vibrant enough for you ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
Yes is that 1 of yours?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 03:32:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 03:32:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 25, 2020, 02:33:32 PMYeah
Yes is that 1 of yours?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 25, 2020, 04:03:33 PM
Post by: clive on July 25, 2020, 04:03:33 PM
Great to see it on its own feet, Wow it really is going to look amazing going down the road when it’s done------long journey but so worth it.
I know it must have been said already but you will need you send the exhaust parts in the engine bay and out to Mr Zircotech as this is the only process that actually works and will keep the temperatures in control to stop melting and catching things alight, which is never good
I know it must have been said already but you will need you send the exhaust parts in the engine bay and out to Mr Zircotech as this is the only process that actually works and will keep the temperatures in control to stop melting and catching things alight, which is never good
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:47:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:47:11 PM
Ceramic coating, exhaust wrap, and reflective stuff everywhere.
Taking no chances
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:52:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:52:53 PM
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That’s the colour of my bike
Chevrolet inferno orange metallic
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That’s the colour of my bike
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
Yes i like!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:56:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:56:55 PM
Oh I like it
Im thinking go two tone with a silver roof and matching wheels
Or satin black accents with satin black wheels
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Im thinking go two tone with a silver roof and matching wheels
Or satin black accents with satin black wheels
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
Or...Brg with tan leather interior..
Rotus V spec! Lol.
Yep sounds good
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Rotus V spec! Lol.
Yep sounds good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:59:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 04:59:20 PM
The second word is off !
My lotus was brg when it left the factory
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My lotus was brg when it left the factory
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 05:00:45 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 05:00:45 PM
I think the cat is out of the bag ref mine
.Black wheel are a fav of mine.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 05:34:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 05:34:56 PM
When I think of lotus all I can think of us green and yellow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 05:35:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 05:34:56 PMHow stereotypical lollllll
When I think of lotus all I can think of us green and yellow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:15:33 AM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:15:33 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 11:38:51 AMLooks badass
Cleaned out the garage for a better view
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 08:01:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 08:01:34 AM
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The eating end
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 08:01:59 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 08:01:59 AM
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The pooping end
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 11:13:18 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 11:13:18 AM
Verry very well done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 31, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 11:13:18 AMOh don’t congratulate me yet lol.
Verry very well done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
Starting to take shape now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 05:42:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 05:42:52 PM
I can imagine your garage to be as dusty as one of Pablo escobars "packing rooms" haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
Oh man it’s terrible I’ve another workshop next door and a kitchen after that, there’s a gym it the end. The dust gets in the gym .
I usually turn a fan on so it all blows outside I don’t like my neighbours anyway
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 06:05:43 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
Oh man it’s terrible I’ve another workshop next door and a kitchen after that, there’s a gym it the end. The dust gets in the gym .
I usually turn a fan on so it all blows outside I don’t like my neighbours anyway
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
????
Wrong room buddy ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 08:45:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 08:45:52 PM
Balls. Clicked on wrong thread
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:14:38 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PMI’m lost
????
Wrong room buddy ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 08:45:52 PMI’d love to talk turbos with ya but I know more about quantum physics lol
Balls. Clicked on wrong thread
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 09:21:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:14:38 PMChose the path of Jesus my child.Quote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PMI’m lost
????
Wrong room buddy ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:27:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:27:47 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 09:21:51 PMAlways have brotherQuote from: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:14:38 PMChose the path of Jesus my child.Quote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PMI’m lost
????
Wrong room buddy ?
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Next full service for us in Wales is 9th August , last was 22nd March
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 10:28:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:14:38 PMI out my post for you in here but moderated it and deleted it lolQuote from: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PMI’m lost
????
Wrong room buddy ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:42:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:42:07 PM
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Some minor gel coat repairs but the rad exit duct fits
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:43:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:43:50 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:44:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 01:44:19 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2020, 02:47:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2020, 02:47:14 PM
Looks real tidy
Just waiting for batman to climb from the inside now lol
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Just waiting for batman to climb from the inside now lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
Loll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
:sign0098: coming along really nicely. Looking quite a beast from the front angle!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:45:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:45:55 PM
Cheers
Making the formers for polycarbonate lenses now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:46:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:46:43 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:47:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 05:47:24 PM
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It can’t be any worse than that lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 06:30:35 PM
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 06:30:35 PM
Looks like a failed attempt at making glass from the Middle Ages that you've dug up somewhere ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 06:31:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 06:31:49 PM
Lol it’s not far off, let’s call it an experiment that went horribly wrong haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2020, 06:34:44 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2020, 06:34:44 PM
This cars looking epic...i think you need to bin off the renny and go 13brew Jamie. Youve earnt your stripes...go big ! 
13B rew!
Power to match the looks.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
One step at a time.
Need to find my feet on the track. Get used to the feel and characteristics.
If I do engine swap it will be pp 13b. Not going down turbo route.
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Need to find my feet on the track. Get used to the feel and characteristics.
If I do engine swap it will be pp 13b. Not going down turbo route.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 10, 2020, 06:34:44 PMNever mind the looks
This cars looking epic...i think you need to bin off the renny and go 13brew Jamie. Youve earnt your stripes...go big !
Power to match the looks.
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It’s all about how much it’s weighs
I asked Ronnie Coleman how he thought I should build it,
This was his response .......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on August 13, 2020, 11:13:40 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on August 13, 2020, 11:13:40 PM
Looking good. Just make sure you run MAF screens if you can
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2020, 11:18:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2020, 11:18:36 PM
Yup got 2 ready
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2020, 06:03:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2020, 06:03:23 PM
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Got the original grille / number plate out the pit
Still fits
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Got the original grille / number plate out the pit
Still fits
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:44:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:44:47 PM
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Laying up the male n female formers for the polycarbonate lenses
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:47:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:47:34 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:49:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 07:49:17 PM
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Struggling this week. Losing my motivation. Be glad when making panels is finished
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Struggling this week. Losing my motivation. Be glad when making panels is finished
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 15, 2020, 09:01:27 PM
Post by: clive on August 15, 2020, 09:01:27 PM
Staggered you have had the motivation to get this far, too late to turn your back on your masterpiece now, you will get there :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 15, 2020, 10:09:59 PM
Post by: Casey on August 15, 2020, 10:09:59 PM
You've come so far and the beast looks fantastic. You just have to finish it. I really want to see it moving under rotary power!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 10:27:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 10:27:24 PM
It will get there
My life is just a piece of sandpaper
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2020, 02:09:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2020, 02:09:33 PM
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So I have a shortlist.
Teals
Oranges
Dark reds( I'm calling it that for jons sanity)
And a couple of greens
Decisions decisions
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So I have a shortlist.
Teals
Oranges
Dark reds( I'm calling it that for jons sanity)
And a couple of greens
Decisions decisions
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2020, 02:11:05 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2020, 02:11:05 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 11:12:20 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 11:12:20 AM
Put your lipstick and nail polishes away, you know your going to paint it lotus green and yellow....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 11:26:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 11:12:20 AMThat's on the weekend
Put your lipstick and nail polishes away, you know your going to paint it lotus green and yellow....
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And hadn't thought about that but no
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
:)) :)) :)) :))
Gosh, that's a wide choice!
Your decision of course, as to what you want to seen in ;), but the shapes you've created would stand out better with one of the brighter, lighter colours, IMHO.............
Gosh, that's a wide choice!
Your decision of course, as to what you want to seen in ;), but the shapes you've created would stand out better with one of the brighter, lighter colours, IMHO.............
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 01:30:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 01:30:06 PM
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 01:30:06 PMI think the dark yellow on RS Renault would look lovely
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:08:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:08:41 PM
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 02:11:20 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:08:41 PMHa ha ok
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Is said M work similar to the french Presidents name ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:11:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 01:51:50 PMYellow is my fav colourQuote from: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 01:30:06 PMI think the dark yellow on RS Renault would look lovely
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Certainly "reddish yellow cocktail mica" that's used on the Yamaha America race bikes if you think back to the days of kenny roberts
However, I could settle for orange as it might not attract as many flies in the summer lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 02:11:20 PMLol possiblyQuote from: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 02:08:41 PMHa ha ok
I'm still leaning towards orange, as there's is too many yellow cars on the forum lol
Followed by the dark reds....... don't use the m word, Jon gets nasty
Then the petrol blue / teal
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Is said M work similar to the french Presidents name ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 05:00:43 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 05:00:43 PM
President Burgundy?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 05:14:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2020, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 19, 2020, 05:00:43 PMThat's the badger lol
President Burgundy?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
Crap president...President Bleu much better!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 10:12:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 10:12:19 PM
Looking at the shape all I can think of for colour is blue and orange Gulf paint scheme but not very original
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:32:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:32:44 PM
Yo yo yo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:35:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:35:20 PM
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So down to 3 well until today
I binned the burgundy
Either orange or metallic blue
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So down to 3 well until today
I binned the burgundy
Either orange or metallic blue
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2020, 08:36:20 PM
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2020, 08:36:20 PM
Ahhh. Finally seeing sense...orange or blue your choice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:36:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:36:46 PM
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Tried to make polycarbonate lenses today
Failed miserably
Bought some thinner stuff and some acrylic
Round 2 coming up
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Tried to make polycarbonate lenses today
Failed miserably
Bought some thinner stuff and some acrylic
Round 2 coming up
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:37:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 24, 2020, 08:36:20 PMI held the burgundy metallic in the sunlight, it lit up like a glitter ball
Ahhh. Finally seeing sense...orange or blue your choice
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Tacky
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:39:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 08:39:53 PM
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Oh and I bought a 12a for rotary project number 2
Old skool cool
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Oh and I bought a 12a for rotary project number 2
Old skool cool
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 24, 2020, 08:49:15 PM
Post by: Casey on August 24, 2020, 08:49:15 PM
Oooh, 12A..... what's that for I wonder!
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Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 09:01:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2020, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 24, 2020, 08:49:15 PMNow that will be telling lol
Oooh, 12A..... what's that for I wonder!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2020, 07:59:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 27, 2020, 07:59:06 PM
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Only about 3 years of welding ahead
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2020, 09:15:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2020, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 27, 2020, 07:59:06 PMVery nice job that jame
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Only about 3 years of welding ahead
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What boiler flue is it for
Sorry
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2020, 09:15:29 PMLol the rotary boilerQuote from: Jamie R on August 27, 2020, 07:59:06 PMVery nice job that jame
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Only about 3 years of welding ahead
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What boiler flue is it for
Sorry
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The 12a Is stripped down ready for clean n paint
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
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Intake and exhaust all plumbed up now ....minus the heat shielding
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Intake and exhaust all plumbed up now ....minus the heat shielding
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 29, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 29, 2020, 08:29:16 PM
I'm confused, which is which bit and why so much pipe with no turbo? Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2020, 08:38:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2020, 08:38:00 PM
Lol well there's no room underneath for exhaust to run
I bought one of these stupid cars where the body bolts to the chassis where the exhaust tunnel would be
And turbos don't interest me that much lol
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I bought one of these stupid cars where the body bolts to the chassis where the exhaust tunnel would be
And turbos don't interest me that much lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2020, 12:56:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2020, 12:56:30 PM
Looks good though, got to. Work in the space you have. Some strategic heat shielding should help with the heat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 02:08:37 PM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 02:08:37 PM
Very impressed, just need to get some Zircotech plasma spray onto it ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: clive on August 30, 2020, 02:08:37 PMYup and reflective gubbins everywhere
Very impressed, just need to get some Zircotech plasma spray onto it ;)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 03:07:52 PM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 03:07:52 PM
If you have that done you shouldnt need reflective gubbins
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2020, 03:34:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2020, 03:34:00 PM
Ah ok, i heard about a 25% decrease in temps if white cermaic is used.
Was gonna get some of that formable stuff that you have to stop burning ya feet in the foot well in addition to the cermaic. Just a belt n braces especially around the plastic intake manifold.
Was gonna get some of that formable stuff that you have to stop burning ya feet in the foot well in addition to the cermaic. Just a belt n braces especially around the plastic intake manifold.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 30, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Post by: Casey on August 30, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Looking good in there Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:07:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:07:17 PM
Afternoon all, not been on for a while.
Well i should be in Portugal sipping on a G&T in the sun by the pool. (Pawl for Wayne lol )
But due to the man flu going round we postponed our holibobs 12 months. So had this week in Devon / Cornwall enjoying ourselves.
Even Clive spotted I was at the beach ! lol Nevermind, Brand Hatch next week, looking forward to that.
Anyway back to the Pedalo......
Ive tried numerous iterations of headlight covers, Im on round 3 and still failing. Ive decided to give up on that and try summat different.
Polycarbonate is obviously the best thing to use from an impact strength perspective at 250 times stronger than glass, but heating it up and "drape forming" wont work on my 3D shaped cover. Its too intricate, its fine for making windows to replace the glass in the car...... bottom line is they need to be thermo-formed which involves having billet aluminium CNC machined, a heating and cooling core running through it and a vacuum to suck the molten polycarb to the formers. £££££££
Round 1 was with 3mm polycarb, no good.
Round 2 was with 1mm polycarb, no good.
Round 3 was with 3mm acrylic, it bends beautifully!!!! Tap it with a hammer afterwards and it just cracks.
It cracks when i cut it or drill it. Imagine a cold morning blasting round and a stone flicking up from the car in front and bang.
I even phoned a plastic moulding company down by Malcolm that did prototype work. He cut me short halfway through my explanation and said he wont even entertain polycarb, its a pig to work with, leaves marks and just no.......
He even said they mould massive hemispherical dome which they can fit 4 people in. Im thinking back to those american custom cars of the 60s and 70s that had a clear bubble roof instead of a normal roof with glass, yeah you know the ones.
Well he said acrylic is no good for my application.
So the only option at this stage is head light shrouds. FD below shows what I mean, Ive posted some of my disastrous attempts too for you to mock me lol, yes yes i am human after all hahaha
Well i should be in Portugal sipping on a G&T in the sun by the pool. (Pawl for Wayne lol )
But due to the man flu going round we postponed our holibobs 12 months. So had this week in Devon / Cornwall enjoying ourselves.
Even Clive spotted I was at the beach ! lol Nevermind, Brand Hatch next week, looking forward to that.
Anyway back to the Pedalo......
Ive tried numerous iterations of headlight covers, Im on round 3 and still failing. Ive decided to give up on that and try summat different.
Polycarbonate is obviously the best thing to use from an impact strength perspective at 250 times stronger than glass, but heating it up and "drape forming" wont work on my 3D shaped cover. Its too intricate, its fine for making windows to replace the glass in the car...... bottom line is they need to be thermo-formed which involves having billet aluminium CNC machined, a heating and cooling core running through it and a vacuum to suck the molten polycarb to the formers. £££££££
Round 1 was with 3mm polycarb, no good.
Round 2 was with 1mm polycarb, no good.
Round 3 was with 3mm acrylic, it bends beautifully!!!! Tap it with a hammer afterwards and it just cracks.
It cracks when i cut it or drill it. Imagine a cold morning blasting round and a stone flicking up from the car in front and bang.
I even phoned a plastic moulding company down by Malcolm that did prototype work. He cut me short halfway through my explanation and said he wont even entertain polycarb, its a pig to work with, leaves marks and just no.......
He even said they mould massive hemispherical dome which they can fit 4 people in. Im thinking back to those american custom cars of the 60s and 70s that had a clear bubble roof instead of a normal roof with glass, yeah you know the ones.
Well he said acrylic is no good for my application.
So the only option at this stage is head light shrouds. FD below shows what I mean, Ive posted some of my disastrous attempts too for you to mock me lol, yes yes i am human after all hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:11:02 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:11:02 PM
How about looking for existing 1s made for cars that can be made to fit....lotus elise, vx220 lenses for example
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:12:47 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:12:47 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-VX220-Opel-Speedster-headlight-lenses-with-E-mark-new/133194534796?fits=Model%3AVX220&hash=item1f03034f8c:g:A9kAAOSw0xtcM6AW
first search im sure there are loads and cheaper....
first search im sure there are loads and cheaper....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:13:32 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:13:32 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-LH-RH-Side-Headlight-Cover-Headlamp-Lens-Cover-For-BMW-E60-E61-5-series-UK/173512325103?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item286623f7ef:g:BDwAAOSwUF1dJvxl&enc=AQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkSG%2BOFgrj2Yvbvmrj2TAdM193cfmcYrTzc%2FHkx6oApVsM23NgC9K99gwmc5vK8a%2FFpoOAqBkGiqh37guV56utz8EyGJUA7r42uppTq59Mf1AeqJhFxfYeOMLfFRly7Cg7sLM9cM7yepovyHAHyPTJVKKr46iDLZV87F19%2FPWbQFZa%2BCzS7TDzs9GxnwEuu%2F%2FhTMueNGMdggLvvZAxYi9CRkcV15QLOxCbXE9S%2FokVbTNx40ySCmFBfaL4Y6Vd0kCLZpcqZ3IQ%2BjA9%2BqVkVeWHJZV0US5yA%2F51pNrAg%2BsfBIHoKCklgP7bS6WEeO%2FpbgzlA2itcdi67KCViEq5OXeESnBoq0FtSdgQnawPI8jGV6JYu4cdcjhGRKYNcK7GYnGF8uX8TX4etq3Zp8z4UPrcl04EMJGRR%2FVq3W%2BqBwrVZE6eyxZ88XKXd6LuzA2QRsRz3dqeaZFdq35Y6p5Qk2qCHDinPXf%2FjQrlz%2B%2FLOFWjsOg8erkBXxBnZmiypPRVqmyFjwkLNY%2BlgyRRxUBggd9sXoen3FtvAVSaryBGxW6itTWIIyHFzYTceSEgrxd6PKJ0AB7xruDT7MMWP3dy6L3gE58YS915Ip3Qgk7zKsmdwhUVBFdiHZqc5jLVj9C3FqKYU4iTeF5RNpdFpTlLOb3rraAHrDom%2FZpWz%2Bw83G7B7AMAZYTNkJGXd566CTfykmIcqsVGaD8UoAkNSk0bRQ6pOX%2FzZ1f8IDQA2BjYkgBEakA%2BFFLGopgNQb%2F%2BhPZvHALdJm%2BXrS7LLlYGKIkfCTjQkw%3D%3D&checksum=173512325103e096d93c42464eaf812bb1250221b68c
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:14:15 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:14:15 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Car-Headlight-Lens-Cover-Pair-Left-Right-Side-For-VW-Golf5-05-09-MK5/383588063706?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item594fa159da:g:C0wAAOSwO7de5Gm5&enc=AQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickkxFtV7J5P58ubuVigtBH%2Fe%2BKmkWVl8%2BRVyrfvvDLIH9JKCx7AijGtdYx1dDs3EWidt21OY8ejixjPXcGv5JVFc7aznZzjZ6mdiFFlBBow%2FsUuow2AgHLN5wJd%2BQgkORJW3t5%2BQUAl8rXYpbwHLuR6c6hQh0yHHVm%2B6MlruGNEwHcX67ysDXpxceq6Cm3n3suIn2rclRlBGFITx79FbfawDiR2dw7xtHEbA9qJi3ElpZerBYV%2FIx8touy3Df5h6u8l31t0EM90YeEkkVngcPyb8v%2BLl3MoxTc%2BFKXgLLC5OGq3mv6cBt3ZtiK8X%2F1VdL4SCPc%2FtTMjlieNG8MBuBV%2FGlpQk69Li50LPI%2BoINOf0nAmBvabJjUaBt%2FQgyMk%2BYMavONpwULfGbPFKs8W3RldKDQnUvtTMHTX%2FSyc%2BYYcu3co%2FKte0hAIgAHDwQivTTjpQckojLyYSjL32cER4aTRlKBtvY%2F%2B49moBdUrCy8Q6dYfUuxKWarvR2M0nlg9gmdzOFoypzwMEgJN54tJtDyck1F9iluVVpumHCYd5WvE4%2F8Drm0FbncnNUahHPzOc8PUauFR%2BAxumoQsKFpjLx3B%2BvntKF4nw2n7R5MN9HLqoSjLSXdWIu5XLXMvQypTxtJnpa1I8jQrjPbYyOupxxTP51Q9XsOfDLUHFM4qsnkHGeSKZBkvTAyuQNiGEJkfnXXoKp8jQ4G30DyC4sxYuQn8%2F8kQ7Z2dQkgyILKsT5OmN1nT6pFRnTF3DpLSQhMVCL%2FdA3K2TR9GsD0afjK0gwuYRQ%3D%3D&checksum=383588063706e096d93c42464eaf812bb1250221b68c
loads on fleabay.
loads on fleabay.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:19:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:11:02 PM
How about looking for existing 1s made for cars that can be made to fit....lotus elise, vx220 lenses for example
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I honestly think ill be wasting my time bud, I remember you mentioning about doing some repairs to the RX8 ones.
Ive looked at lots of different shapes, even the lotus elise ones are uni-axial i.e. 1 bend. its bending it around on that second bend.
The material needs to stretch. Imagine trying to wrap a piece of A4 paper around a football...... it gathers up around the edges as theres too much material in the wrong areas.
what I SHOULD have done was to simplify my design of the headlight layout when I made the front end, or try bending some polycarb before hand to realise the limitation with multi axial components.
Ah well, win some lose some. Im not too disheartend by it
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Im sure theres something out there that will fit!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:22:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:22:16 PM
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Rads too tight and change of directions
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:24:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:24:51 PM
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If it was just that front bend and didn't have the bit on the side wrapping round I'd stand a chance
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If it was just that front bend and didn't have the bit on the side wrapping round I'd stand a chance
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:25:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2020, 01:25:59 PM
and yes i do need to empty my bins lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2020, 01:26:39 PM
Yep Firesafety and all that!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 01:03:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 01:03:04 PM
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Headlights going in a new direction, and I don't mean bolted to the back of the car ......
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Headlights going in a new direction, and I don't mean bolted to the back of the car ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 08, 2020, 02:14:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 08, 2020, 02:14:45 PM
I like that, almost looks like dodge demon head lights if you squint lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 08, 2020, 02:15:35 PM
Post by: boosted on September 08, 2020, 02:15:35 PM
Yeah Hellcatesque. looks smart mean!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Mixed with a bit of Alfa Romeo ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 02:25:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 02:25:09 PM
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Ish
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 02:33:03 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 02:33:03 PM
Ford Capri mun
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 06:34:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 06:34:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 02:33:03 PMAre you on drugs? Ya been smoking leeks ? Lol
Ford Capri mun
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 08, 2020, 06:34:53 PMHa haQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 08, 2020, 02:33:03 PMAre you on drugs? Ya been smoking leeks ? Lol
Ford Capri mun
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Must be the antibiotics
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on September 11, 2020, 08:19:10 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on September 11, 2020, 08:19:10 PM
Boooo frowning headlights ;) Good progress bro. Catch you when you're back. Probably the usual Friday after work jobbie if you aren't busy haha. If not earlier. We can get that 12a cleaned up and ready for more rotors in your shed
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: Hobbawobba on September 11, 2020, 08:19:10 PMSweet yeah Jon's on the case
Boooo frowning headlights ;) Good progress bro. Catch you when you're back. Probably the usual Friday after work jobbie if you aren't busy haha. If not earlier. We can get that 12a cleaned up and ready for more rotors in your shed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AM
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AMVery impressive Jamie
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:20:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/e6ce04c7f45ee420ee62a42100100f13.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AMVery impressive Jamie
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/e6ce04c7f45ee420ee62a42100100f13.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AMVery impressive Jamie
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:24:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AMQuote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/e6ce04c7f45ee420ee62a42100100f13.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AMVery impressive Jamie
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Oh the beard !!!!
Lol I was trying to of pirates that wore welding goggles haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 12:50:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:24:45 AMHa haQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AMQuote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:20:51 AMQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 19, 2020, 11:18:36 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/e6ce04c7f45ee420ee62a42100100f13.jpg)Quote from: Jamie R on September 19, 2020, 11:16:25 AMVery impressive Jamie
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Headlight covers de moulded, next bit ticked off
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I dunno where my inspiration comes from .......
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Your missing a parrot on your shoulder
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Oh the beard !!!!
Lol I was trying to of pirates that wore welding goggles haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 25, 2020, 06:24:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 25, 2020, 06:24:01 PM
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New aero
Nicknamed the blob
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New aero
Nicknamed the blob
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 11:55:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 11:55:37 AM
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More dust
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 26, 2020, 01:23:33 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 26, 2020, 01:23:33 PM
Epic work buddy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 01:24:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 01:24:51 PM
Ain't nuthin to scream about yet.
If it covers those unsightly sill bolts I'm happy
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If it covers those unsightly sill bolts I'm happy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 01:28:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 26, 2020, 01:28:52 PM
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What was colin chapman thinking ? Pffft
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What was colin chapman thinking ? Pffft
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
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Not far off the first pattern of the last bodywork pieces
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 01, 2020, 05:18:07 PM
Post by: boosted on October 01, 2020, 05:18:07 PM
Yay like that...this cars gonna be mean looking.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 05:22:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 05:22:16 PM
I pray it's got a bit of go to match the show
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 01, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
Post by: boosted on October 01, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
Im sure it will! and flames too.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 01, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
Post by: clive on October 01, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
:bravo_2: Nice skirts
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 06:52:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: clive on October 01, 2020, 06:38:23 PMSkirts? where? Wit woo
:bravo_2: Nice skirts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
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Paid for my one off rotary 3D printed centre caps today
15 quid each. Bargain for bespoke work when you compare it to caps off t'interweb
Helps when ya have 3D CAD software and ya can just ping them a file
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Paid for my one off rotary 3D printed centre caps today
15 quid each. Bargain for bespoke work when you compare it to caps off t'interweb
Helps when ya have 3D CAD software and ya can just ping them a file
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 01, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 01, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
That's looking bloody lovely Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 07:20:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2020, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 01, 2020, 07:14:57 PMFanx big W
That's looking bloody lovely Jamie
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Hopefully should be easier to mould than previous parts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 08:36:56 AM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 08:36:56 AM
Well done Jamie, still thinking outside the box.
What was the web address for geting this done, maybe for anyone else wanting to have parts made.
Hopefully non cad mortals can get this done as well.
What was the web address for geting this done, maybe for anyone else wanting to have parts made.
Hopefully non cad mortals can get this done as well.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: sKenDread on October 02, 2020, 09:20:03 AM
Post by: sKenDread on October 02, 2020, 09:20:03 AM
That's looks great Jamie
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RX8 231 2008 Galaxy Gray
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 09:46:05 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: clive on October 02, 2020, 08:36:56 AMThe best way to get hold of him is through Facebook.
Well done Jamie, still thinking outside the box.
What was the web address for geting this done, maybe for anyone else wanting to have parts made.
Hopefully non cad mortals can get this done as well.
Search for BB3D engineering services.
Ideally he needs a cad file to model from because that's what the software calls upon.
But that's something I can help anyone with if I got a part to measure or a decent set of fag packet sketches with critical dims on.
I don't mind modelling summat up.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 09:46:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: sKenDread on October 02, 2020, 09:20:03 AMCheers, getting there slowly
That's looks great Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 11:29:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 11:29:06 AM
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New style on the left definitely better
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2020, 02:39:18 PM
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2020, 02:39:18 PM
Cool :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 03, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
Post by: boosted on October 03, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
Looking smart! With all that dust you keep the windcreen very clean
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 05:03:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 05:03:50 PM
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I know right
That dust is just from today. I wonder if I tip some linseed oil back in the tin I can make filler again lol
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I know right
That dust is just from today. I wonder if I tip some linseed oil back in the tin I can make filler again lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:16:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:16:30 PM
Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 05:45:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:16:30 PMHaha
Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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I know I have mental health probs, but no need to call me mad max
Lolll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:48:06 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 05:45:18 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 03, 2020, 05:16:30 PMHaha
Looking good
Oddly mad max was set in 2021 I think
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I know I have mental health probs, but no need to call me mad max
Lolll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 07, 2020, 08:23:25 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 07, 2020, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 04:52:48 PMLooking good
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 07, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 07, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 07, 2020, 08:23:25 PMThanks Paul!Quote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2020, 04:52:48 PMLooking good
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Finally !!!
After cutting the headlight shrouds up and glassing them back together again they finally fit
I hate them I never wanna see them again!
The whole polycarb / acrylic / shroud / pattern / mould fiasco just took too much time.
Anyway. ..... onward
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Long time no see, hope you're keeping well ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 08, 2020, 07:43:44 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 08, 2020, 07:43:44 PM
Been better. On the mend now.
Beer + one wheel electric skate board =(censored)ed finger.
Pins are out now and I've managed one night off the booze in several months. So moving in the right direction(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/6fc4fb4a014582d148beefd33a7c6fd7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/aa69d69951a8a91026e2a115ae54a53f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/8c5847f5a6f6057c8a213c62f8785f53.jpg)
Beer + one wheel electric skate board =(censored)ed finger.
Pins are out now and I've managed one night off the booze in several months. So moving in the right direction(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/6fc4fb4a014582d148beefd33a7c6fd7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/aa69d69951a8a91026e2a115ae54a53f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201008/8c5847f5a6f6057c8a213c62f8785f53.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 08, 2020, 08:30:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 08, 2020, 08:30:19 PM
What are you like?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2020, 09:11:40 PM
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2020, 09:11:40 PM
Blimin hell mate. Been through it then. Looks like your coming out the otherside ok.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 08, 2020, 11:05:15 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 08, 2020, 11:05:15 PM
The surgeon said I exploded the knuckle joint. The xray today shows a big gap/gorge on the joint surface. Going to give me trouble for life I think.
Second night off the booze! I picked up a 4 pack of beer earlier at tescos, called myself a twat and put it back on the shelf
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Second night off the booze! I picked up a 4 pack of beer earlier at tescos, called myself a twat and put it back on the shelf
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 08, 2020, 11:18:29 PM
Post by: Casey on October 08, 2020, 11:18:29 PM
Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2020, 04:38:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2020, 04:38:09 AM
Quote from: Casey on October 08, 2020, 11:18:29 PMIt's Paul mate, my digits are ok, for now ....
Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
Paul I'm trying to put a positive spin on the situation but struggling without defying the rules of the forum being a family show.
Well done on the will power, I know you battled with overcoming this before.
Oooooo theres a link, if you cast your mind back to an advert from the 90s I think.
You now have a "Heineken finger" .... " it refreshes parts other fingers cannot reach"
You're gonna have to let your imagination do the rest lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 09, 2020, 10:51:13 AM
Post by: Casey on October 09, 2020, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 09, 2020, 04:38:09 AMQuote from: Casey on October 08, 2020, 11:18:29 PMIt's Paul mate, my digits are ok, for now ....
Really sad to hear that you will have permanent damage as a result of that injury Jamie :(
Doh! That's one of the problems with reading and replying on a phone screen. Didn't spot the avatar with ageing eyesight and assumed it was Jamie posting on his topic ;)
Glad it's not the accident prone Jamie then ;), but very sorry for Paul.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2020, 10:59:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 09, 2020, 10:59:23 AM
Ah you know me so well Malcolm lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201009/4070fd7fff0ab2ca19dea6a05ebc5e29.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on October 11, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 11, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
Have you got the engine started yet? Or is the wiring scaring you still
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 11, 2020, 07:43:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 11, 2020, 07:43:37 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 11, 2020, 06:49:57 PMI'm on my last body panel pattern then I can start wiring and plumbing.
Have you got the engine started yet? Or is the wiring scaring you still
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Dun think I'll be starting the engine as it's gonna get stripped apart for a rebuild, but if I can get it turning over and firing that's a start.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 10:37:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 10:37:34 AM
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Maybe the worlds biggest cracker bar
Wheel in the shot for perspective lol
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Maybe the worlds biggest cracker bar
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
What's the big bar for ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 17, 2020, 11:33:16 AM
Post by: clive on October 17, 2020, 11:33:16 AM
Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: clive on October 17, 2020, 11:33:16 AMCorrectamundo!!
Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
Jesse's 13b needs to get the back end off his engine.
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Make shift flywheel locker .... a piece of drilled flat and a bolt in roll cage bracket as a washer
A 17 stone bearded man stood on the engine stand to stop it wheelieing.
We didn't have a 1" drive impact drive to give it the "ugger-duggas" so mechanical advantage won with brute force n ignorance
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:51:25 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:47:35 AMI find it's the flywheel removal is the hardest partQuote from: clive on October 17, 2020, 11:33:16 AMCorrectamundo!!
Got to be a 54mm to undo the flywheel nut ?
Jesse's 13b needs to get the back end off his engine.
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Make shift flywheel locker .... a piece of drilled flat and a bolt in roll cage bracket as a washer
A 17 stone bearded man stood on the engine stand to stop it wheelieing.
We didn't have a 1" drive impact drive to give it the "ugger-duggas" so mechanical advantage won with brute force n ignorance
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:53:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:53:24 AM
Thankfully this engine been worked on before so it wasn't "Mazda tight"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:55:02 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 11:55:02 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:53:24 AMNice lightweight flywheel
Thankfully this engine been worked on before so it wasn't "Mazda tight"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:56:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 17, 2020, 11:56:28 AM
Yeah that's had a hard life too, couple of hot spots
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Wayne..whack the flywheel...as its resonating..(that zingeing sound). Pull it off.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:17:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:17:52 PM
So in case you all thought I died. I'm still lurking
But not doing anything exciting
Making inner wheel arch liners to keep the crap out the engine bay from the tyres
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But not doing anything exciting
Making inner wheel arch liners to keep the crap out the engine bay from the tyres
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:22:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:22:57 PM
Oh and a little trick I learned from reading a book written by Adrian newey where he cheated or shall I say found a loophole in the regulations of formula 1 which did wonders for preventing turbulent air from the front wheels going down the underside of the car.
So in simplest terms it's a 1" angle iron hanging down but curved outwards and made from grp in case I bottom out, I can make a new one from the moulds and I won't bore you all with vortex's
No idea if I will see any benefit from it, but as mr Tesco says...... every little helps
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So in simplest terms it's a 1" angle iron hanging down but curved outwards and made from grp in case I bottom out, I can make a new one from the moulds and I won't bore you all with vortex's
No idea if I will see any benefit from it, but as mr Tesco says...... every little helps
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Had the Adrian bible book for a year, best open it sometime soon then ;)
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Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:46:26 PMIf we're on about his auto biography It's a good read, took it on holiday earlier this year and blitzed it in 3 days.
Had the Adrian bible book for a year, best open it sometime soon then ;)
He's quite a character, I think I'd like him if I ever met him in person.
He told an hilarious story about Nigel mansel when there was strong rivalry with team mates. I think it was Jean alesi, and as a team they should share data, Nigel used to come back into the pits and turn all his suspension settings from the cockpit all over the place knowing that jean alesi's team would copy the settings lol.
Adrian even swapped the whole stock of suspension springs in the garage for ones that wouldn't work so the other team used them.
He's not up himself like that Louis Hammersmith driver fella
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2020, 11:11:05 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2020, 11:11:05 AM
Clive...... do you remember walking to the museum at beaulieu the other year with me n the father in law, we came across that car on the field with vortex generators that were "Velcro'ed" to the front bumper??
Well I think I've topped it off with cardboard n gaffer tape lol
Should add at least 2000lbs on the front end before the tape gives way.
Just pray it doesnt rain
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Well I think I've topped it off with cardboard n gaffer tape lol
Should add at least 2000lbs on the front end before the tape gives way.
Just pray it doesnt rain
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
However I have the professional heavy duty version with additional set square, g clamp and steel rule.
Colin chapman would not be impressed with the additional weight
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Colin chapman would not be impressed with the additional weight
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2020, 07:22:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2020, 07:22:36 AM
Today's choice materials is ..... clay
I'll be making plates next
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I'll be making plates next
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 14, 2020, 04:53:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 14, 2020, 04:53:16 PM
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Making shark models
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Making shark models
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2020, 01:52:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2020, 01:52:57 PM
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My fav part of any fibreglass project...... splitting the mould off the pattern for the first time
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My fav part of any fibreglass project...... splitting the mould off the pattern for the first time
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 21, 2020, 02:21:18 PM
Post by: Casey on November 21, 2020, 02:21:18 PM
Good to see progress continues Jamie :13:
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Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 21, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Enthusiasm is a at rock bottom at mo malcolm
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Fitted a new clutch on the bike this morning just for a change of scenery
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
So.......... been beating myself up a lot psychologically recently ....
I had set myself a dead line of 3 years for this project and this Christmas will be 3 years since I started tearing down the original Lotus.
Clearly I'm not going to get this finished on time, but during my insomnia time I've been going over stuff thinking, what the f*** have you been playing at????? so I've put myself a bit of a list to try and help me come to terms as to why I failed my deadline.
You all know by now how boring the process of fibre glassing is ..... pattern, mould, product, so yeah everything is done 3 times....
So besides designing the chassis on CAD, building it, making a roll cage, fabricating the headers and full exhaust system, custom fuel tank, adjustable pedal box mounting design, Ive managed to build the rest out of fibreglass
Transmission tunnel
Diff tunnel
N/S and O/S Rear inner arches
Boot floor
Rear light shrouds
Dashboard
Centre console
Dash Top
N/S and O/S rear quarters
N/S and O/S front wings
N/S and O/S front inner wings
Front nose cone inc splitter and Oil Cooler inlet ducts
Exhaust tunnel
N/S and O/S side skirts
N/S and O/S Cannards
N/S and O/S Headlight shrouds
Fuel filler recess panel
2 part roof scoop
Rear bumper
Spoiler
Diffuser
N/S and O/S Auxiliary diffusers
Bonnet
Radiator intake duct
2 part radiator exit duct
N/S and O/S Oil cooler exit ducts
N/S and O/S Front Brake disc cooler ducts
Airbox cover
N/S and O/S Under floor vortex generators
N/S and O/S front inner wheel arch liners
......... and breathe
I guess ive been busy :-\ :-\ :-\
I had set myself a dead line of 3 years for this project and this Christmas will be 3 years since I started tearing down the original Lotus.
Clearly I'm not going to get this finished on time, but during my insomnia time I've been going over stuff thinking, what the f*** have you been playing at????? so I've put myself a bit of a list to try and help me come to terms as to why I failed my deadline.
You all know by now how boring the process of fibre glassing is ..... pattern, mould, product, so yeah everything is done 3 times....
So besides designing the chassis on CAD, building it, making a roll cage, fabricating the headers and full exhaust system, custom fuel tank, adjustable pedal box mounting design, Ive managed to build the rest out of fibreglass
Transmission tunnel
Diff tunnel
N/S and O/S Rear inner arches
Boot floor
Rear light shrouds
Dashboard
Centre console
Dash Top
N/S and O/S rear quarters
N/S and O/S front wings
N/S and O/S front inner wings
Front nose cone inc splitter and Oil Cooler inlet ducts
Exhaust tunnel
N/S and O/S side skirts
N/S and O/S Cannards
N/S and O/S Headlight shrouds
Fuel filler recess panel
2 part roof scoop
Rear bumper
Spoiler
Diffuser
N/S and O/S Auxiliary diffusers
Bonnet
Radiator intake duct
2 part radiator exit duct
N/S and O/S Oil cooler exit ducts
N/S and O/S Front Brake disc cooler ducts
Airbox cover
N/S and O/S Under floor vortex generators
N/S and O/S front inner wheel arch liners
......... and breathe
I guess ive been busy :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 02, 2020, 08:56:17 PM
Post by: Casey on December 02, 2020, 08:56:17 PM
Don't beat yourself up about it, Jamie. You have made tremendous progress. It's the old thing of "how do you eat an elephant?" - a bite at a time and you'll get there eventually.
My progress, or lack of, with KIMI 1 is pathetic compared to what you have done in 3 years on Rotus, and I'm retired!
Just keep biting at it ;)
My progress, or lack of, with KIMI 1 is pathetic compared to what you have done in 3 years on Rotus, and I'm retired!
Just keep biting at it ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 07:42:19 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: Casey on December 02, 2020, 08:56:17 PMCheers Malcolm.
Don't beat yourself up about it, Jamie. You have made tremendous progress. It's the old thing of "how do you eat an elephant?" - a bite at a time and you'll get there eventually.
My progress, or lack of, with KIMI 1 is pathetic compared to what you have done in 3 years on Rotus, and I'm retired!
Just keep biting at it ;)
I just have so many other project I wanna build too before I'm too old
Anyway .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2020, 08:21:36 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2020, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 02, 2020, 07:34:36 PMYour doing well
So.......... been beating myself up a lot psychologically recently ....
I had set myself a dead line of 3 years for this project and this Christmas will be 3 years since I started tearing down the original Lotus.
Clearly I'm not going to get this finished on time, but during my insomnia time I've been going over stuff thinking, what the f*** have you been playing at????? so I've put myself a bit of a list to try and help me come to terms as to why I failed my deadline.
You all know by now how boring the process of fibre glassing is ..... pattern, mould, product, so yeah everything is done 3 times....
So besides designing the chassis on CAD, building it, making a roll cage, fabricating the headers and full exhaust system, custom fuel tank, adjustable pedal box mounting design, Ive managed to build the rest out of fibreglass
Transmission tunnel
Diff tunnel
N/S and O/S Rear inner arches
Boot floor
Rear light shrouds
Dashboard
Centre console
Dash Top
N/S and O/S rear quarters
N/S and O/S front wings
N/S and O/S front inner wings
Front nose cone inc splitter and Oil Cooler inlet ducts
Exhaust tunnel
N/S and O/S side skirts
N/S and O/S Cannards
N/S and O/S Headlight shrouds
Fuel filler recess panel
2 part roof scoop
Rear bumper
Spoiler
Diffuser
N/S and O/S Auxiliary diffusers
Bonnet
Radiator intake duct
2 part radiator exit duct
N/S and O/S Oil cooler exit ducts
N/S and O/S Front Brake disc cooler ducts
Airbox cover
N/S and O/S Under floor vortex generators
N/S and O/S front inner wheel arch liners
......... and breathe
I guess ive been busy :-\ :-\ :-\
I never say a date on a project nor a price
Just a rough guesstimate ......
then you can't go wrong , once your fighting the clock that the end of it .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2020, 08:26:29 AM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2020, 08:26:29 AM
Yep. Suck it up buttercup lol only joking..tough love
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 09:01:59 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 09:01:59 AM
I'm feeling the love bud
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on December 03, 2020, 10:38:19 AM
Post by: jinx on December 03, 2020, 10:38:19 AM
Just dip into the small ads on various sites and count the number of stalled kit car projects for sale...and they came with a build manual as well as off the shelf solutions. Slow progress is not calculated in weeks, months or years. The correct benchmark is decades. How do I know this? Don't ask. I'd be too embarrassed to tell you....but it's still here and no closer to being finished than it was thirty, make that forty, years ago.
It might be genetic. My 'next generation' has a project now easing into its second decade. Given I recently opened a drawer here and found a leaflet on woodworm treatment that was issued by the Department of Works in 1956, we either have a pathological aversion to throwing stuff away and/or enjoy taunting ourselves with our own incapacity to finish s***. (In some cases the woodworm do that for us.) I'm not sure either of those is healthier than the other.
By comparison your progress is positively meteoric and as you know, your work rate usually leaves me breathless, so I've been quite glad of the recent respite without ever suspecting you might be a fellow sufferer/celebrant of the art of never reaching the end of any journey. Keep calm and carry on? :D
It might be genetic. My 'next generation' has a project now easing into its second decade. Given I recently opened a drawer here and found a leaflet on woodworm treatment that was issued by the Department of Works in 1956, we either have a pathological aversion to throwing stuff away and/or enjoy taunting ourselves with our own incapacity to finish s***. (In some cases the woodworm do that for us.) I'm not sure either of those is healthier than the other.
By comparison your progress is positively meteoric and as you know, your work rate usually leaves me breathless, so I've been quite glad of the recent respite without ever suspecting you might be a fellow sufferer/celebrant of the art of never reaching the end of any journey. Keep calm and carry on? :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 08:00:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2020, 08:00:25 PM
Well I appreciate the comments of confidence chaps, I genuinely do.
But when you have a mental state where " not all your dogs are barking" like mine, it's easy to set the bar too high for yourself and never be able to congratulate yourself despite others views.
Enough drivel..... must press on
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But when you have a mental state where " not all your dogs are barking" like mine, it's easy to set the bar too high for yourself and never be able to congratulate yourself despite others views.
Enough drivel..... must press on
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
Come on yer big tart...get out in the garage and crack on MRC is for winners!!!!
Hows that for motivation?
Im freezing my moobs off and my hands are all dry and cut up...so if you are to will make me feel better
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Hows that for motivation?
Im freezing my moobs off and my hands are all dry and cut up...so if you are to will make me feel better
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 02:34:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 02:34:16 PM
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Nope I'm in the warmth of the shed, radiator on , joining my canards together
Moobs???? You??? Ive seen more fat on an apple
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Nope I'm in the warmth of the shed, radiator on , joining my canards together
Moobs???? You??? Ive seen more fat on an apple
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Little 1s lol..im freezing in garage.. ac dc keeping me going.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 03:05:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 03:05:35 PM
Is Tim giving you a live performance?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 03:10:45 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2020, 03:10:45 PM
Lol..beetlejuice beetlejuice...nah...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
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My canards have just thrown up lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
Well a successful morning
Canards practically fell out the moulds. Thin layer of GRP, gel coat and PU foam filled for increased stiffness and rigidity while staying very lightweight.
Made 20mm thick so it has a 10mm rad on the leading edge. This air stuff doesn't like thin leading edges, it causes separation you need to maintain the boundary layer.
Anyway, a quick sand, gel coat over the foam filling hole and fit ...........
...... next !
Canards practically fell out the moulds. Thin layer of GRP, gel coat and PU foam filled for increased stiffness and rigidity while staying very lightweight.
Made 20mm thick so it has a 10mm rad on the leading edge. This air stuff doesn't like thin leading edges, it causes separation you need to maintain the boundary layer.
Anyway, a quick sand, gel coat over the foam filling hole and fit ...........
...... next !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 06, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 06, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
I do like that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 12:38:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 06, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
I do like that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Yep looks mega
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 12:42:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2020, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 06, 2020, 12:39:29 PMIt could be complete overkill but if I'm gonna make them now is the time while the body has no paint on.
Yep looks mega
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I could always leave them off
See how it goes ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
Suits the aggressive looks...imo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 07, 2020, 08:33:14 AM
Post by: clive on December 07, 2020, 08:33:14 AM
Another step forward :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 19, 2020, 11:45:02 AM
Post by: MattScott on December 19, 2020, 11:45:02 AM
I've been quietly watching this thread for .... well a while (I'm not a stalker mind ) and your sheer skill, determination and the fact you find the time in amongst everyday stuff is truly impressive. I'm sure we all wish we could do what you have achieved so far, let alone what this project has the potential to become! Sadly my skill level is nowhere near that but I really enjoy catching up on your progress. Keep going mate, we're all behind you
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) and your sheer skill, determination and the fact you find the time in amongst everyday stuff is truly impressive. I'm sure we all wish we could do what you have achieved so far, let alone what this project has the potential to become! Sadly my skill level is nowhere near that but I really enjoy catching up on your progress. Keep going mate, we're all behind you Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 11:52:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 11:52:55 AM
Thanks Matt for the kind words. I just throw myself in at the deep end and hope for the best.
Had a set back this week with side skirts and canards.
So I too am lurking in the shadows trying to rectify stuff and make it work.
I'm very fortunate I have an understanding wife to be who has her own hobbies but on the plus side we're not under each other's feet all day. It's all about balance. Thankfully she realises I have an odd screw loose and being in the shed keeps my temperament down rather than watching tv and getting cabin fever.
Everybody has the abilities to build something unique. It's just stuff I've picked up over the years. I've been tinkering with stuff for 30 years, but each of my projects are more technically challenging than the next .
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Had a set back this week with side skirts and canards.
So I too am lurking in the shadows trying to rectify stuff and make it work.
I'm very fortunate I have an understanding wife to be who has her own hobbies but on the plus side we're not under each other's feet all day. It's all about balance. Thankfully she realises I have an odd screw loose and being in the shed keeps my temperament down rather than watching tv and getting cabin fever.
Everybody has the abilities to build something unique. It's just stuff I've picked up over the years. I've been tinkering with stuff for 30 years, but each of my projects are more technically challenging than the next .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 12:26:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 12:26:09 PM
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See, an example I am human lol.
Didn't put enough wax on the mould, the product lost some gel coat and glass and the mould did the same and remained on the product
I won't make that mistake again lol
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See, an example I am human lol.
Didn't put enough wax on the mould, the product lost some gel coat and glass and the mould did the same and remained on the product
I won't make that mistake again lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 19, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
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Canards and end fences to finish the front end
That riv-nut gun is the bomb !!!
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Canards and end fences to finish the front end
That riv-nut gun is the bomb !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 20, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
Post by: MattScott on December 20, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
Oh....rivet gun!! I think I've just added a new toy on my list for Santa
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 12:30:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 12:30:00 PM
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Well the first one is on
A bit of fettling required but it's there.
Estimated about 3 kg..... if I made it outta carbon the car may have floated away lol
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Well the first one is on
A bit of fettling required but it's there.
Estimated about 3 kg..... if I made it outta carbon the car may have floated away lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 12:53:04 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 12:30:00 PMOh yes
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Well the first one is on
A bit of fettling required but it's there.
Estimated about 3 kg..... if I made it outta carbon the car may have floated away lol
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I do like that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 20, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
Post by: clive on December 20, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
Getting there :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 05:50:29 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 05:50:29 PM
Ive been working with farbon today!!!Farbon from Wuhan..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 20, 2020, 06:07:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 20, 2020, 06:07:54 PM
If your wing isn't 3 feet above the boot it won't give you mad down force
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
Nice bit of kit John
Didn't even have to get ya hands dirty
Looks expensive !
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Didn't even have to get ya hands dirty
Looks expensive !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
Lol £137!!! And 39 days to arrive from china...its plastic i think...
Ive put all my weight off 82kg onit and it held it!!
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Ive put all my weight off 82kg onit and it held it!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
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If your wing isn't 3 feet above the boot it won't give you mad down force
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Like this ?? lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:10:39 PMI was 82kg once.......
Lol £137!!! And 39 days to arrive from china...its plastic i think...
Ive put all my weight off 82kg onit and it held it!!
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I think I was a teenager
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Lightweight babyyyyy!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:13:40 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:13:40 PM
Nah its this (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/3adee728203e9b323802cccba5a067ff.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:14:15 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:14:15 PM
Or...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/7adde18fddd3e5554c2259a719234bb9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:14:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:14:43 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:13:40 PMLollll looks like romain grojeans car after he crashed through the barrier
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:15:18 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:15:18 PM
Actually impressed with it...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/5389d50ec905799510b8f7a1ee87cdaf.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:16:07 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:16:07 PM
Im gonna look at prat driving it to work though
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:16:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:16:19 PM
Looks impressive!
I couldn't make those brackets for 137 quid
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 06:16:26 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:15:18 PMThat's different to mine
Actually impressed with it...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/5389d50ec905799510b8f7a1ee87cdaf.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:17:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2020, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 06:16:26 PMThat's to activate the drs lolQuote from: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:15:18 PMThat's different to mine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Lol..b4 it got bolted down!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 06:17:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 20, 2020, 06:16:07 PM
Im gonna look at prat driving it to work though
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 20, 2020, 09:50:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 20, 2020, 09:50:53 PM
Get enough speed with that wing and you shall be pulling wheelies
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 21, 2020, 03:14:38 PM
Post by: boosted on December 21, 2020, 03:14:38 PM
Im extending front splitter and sideskirts and rear diffuser...giving an aero ago..car has good mechanical grip so will see what all the magic witchcraft is about.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:27:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:27:38 PM
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This thing is coming more n more like a time attack car than a road car .... hmmmmm
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This thing is coming more n more like a time attack car than a road car .... hmmmmm
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PM
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 21, 2020, 06:37:27 PM
Post by: boosted on December 21, 2020, 06:37:27 PM
Looks very smart!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PMNot sure
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it's open will give some down for e I guess
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Oh definitely open just a brace at the top to stop it flapping, trying to get some high pressure air out the front wheel well down the sides of the car and not under it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PMIt's completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it's replaceable.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PMNot sure
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it's open will give some down for e I guess
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Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:53:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:47:56 PMShape looks goodQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PMIt's completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it's replaceable.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PMNot sure
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it's open will give some down for e I guess
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Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Had I planned this 3 years ago I would have made my front wings completely diff lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:01:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:53:32 PMThe wheels are flush with the outside of the flappy bit.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:47:56 PMShape looks goodQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PMIt's completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it's replaceable.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PMNot sure
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it's open will give some down for e I guess
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Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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I used the outside face of the wheels as a datum to make the side skirts from when I built the pattern.
The canards at the front are the widest point of the car for obvious reasons
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:01:40 PMAllQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:53:32 PMThe wheels are flush with the outside of the flappy bit.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:47:56 PMShape looks goodQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 06:38:33 PMIt's completely removeable and brings the side skirt a bit lower to the floor, if I ground it out it's replaceable.Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 06:28:12 PMNot sure
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Can't decide...... views ?
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Will it be open or. Closed off ?
If it's open will give some down for e I guess
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Or I could just not fit it.....
..... or try a diff shape.
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How wide would the wheels have to be ?
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I used the outside face of the wheels as a datum to make the side skirts from when I built the pattern.
The canards at the front are the widest point of the car for obvious reasons
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Good then
have faith brother
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I'm just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I'm just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 07:18:26 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 21, 2020, 07:18:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I'm just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:22:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:22:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unwHwZu7Swk
Funny film...... just the opening credits on show.
Remind me of myself in the shed " thats streamlining that is" hahahahaha
85 years old that film and he was building aero back then hahaha
Funny film...... just the opening credits on show.
Remind me of myself in the shed " thats streamlining that is" hahahahaha
85 years old that film and he was building aero back then hahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 07:49:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 07:49:54 PM
From that angle the rotus looks like a jgtc rx7
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:51:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:51:53 PM
I'm gonna have to google that.....
.... you may as well be talking Russian mate
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.... you may as well be talking Russian mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:52:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:52:38 PM
Christ I wish !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:57:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:57:50 PM
That's said grant .... I have no qualms about having a Mazda-esqe appearance to the rotus.
Theres more Mazda parts than lotus parts.
The 110 Cosmo was nicknamed the elan from Japan......
.... seems only fair to pay homage to a rotary from yesteryears
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Theres more Mazda parts than lotus parts.
The 110 Cosmo was nicknamed the elan from Japan......
.... seems only fair to pay homage to a rotary from yesteryears
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 21, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
Post by: MattScott on December 21, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
Whats wrong with getting milk via the mountains?? I must be missing something !!
Based on most the cars in my local supermarket, Rotus would look like class! Probably only get a 2 pint in it safely though
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!! Based on most the cars in my local supermarket, Rotus would look like class! Probably only get a 2 pint in it safely though
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2020, 06:13:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 22, 2020, 06:13:48 AM
Quote from: MattScott on December 21, 2020, 09:24:43 PMYup the average shopping car looks the same as each other, regardless of the badge.
Whats wrong with getting milk via the mountains?? I must be missing something
Based on most the cars in my local supermarket, Rotus would look like class! Probably only get a 2 pint in it safely though
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Way of the world these days. Cars designed to be economical with low wind resistance, encap safety ratings, and even car manufacturers sharing the the same base platform as a joint venture to save £££
Gone are the days when a man put pen to paper and drew what was in his heart. Once in a while a car comes out like the Rx vision and stops us in our tracks and we think ....please build it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:14:01 AM
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:14:01 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 21, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
It was just summat Jon said yesterday about going to work with his rear wing....
I can imagine the convo in our house ....
Jamie: Emma! I'm just nipping you Tesco for some milk....
Emma: what car you going in?
Jamie: the rotus......why?
Emma: you f%*#ing going via Pikes Peak ??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 22, 2020, 07:32:35 AM
Post by: boosted on December 22, 2020, 07:32:35 AM
I think wherever you drive it its gonna get attention left right and centre!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:44:50 PM
Post by: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:44:50 PM
More progress Jamie - :sign0098:
Much more progress than me on car stuff at the moment :-[
Much more progress than me on car stuff at the moment :-[
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on December 27, 2020, 08:06:52 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on December 27, 2020, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:44:50 PMBecause he's in there from 5am every day aye bro
More progress Jamie - :sign0098:
Much more progress than me on car stuff at the moment :-[
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2020, 08:18:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 27, 2020, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Hobbawobba on December 27, 2020, 08:06:52 PMNot so much these days man, 9am todayQuote from: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:44:50 PMBecause he's in there from 5am every day aye bro
More progress Jamie - :sign0098:
Much more progress than me on car stuff at the moment :-[
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2020, 05:16:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2020, 05:16:26 PM
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Do you know what that is ??
Well besides being the near side sideskirt .....
it's actually the final piece of bodywork I need to make.
Hoorahhhh
Engine bay work in the new year, plumbing, fuel, brakes, wiring.
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Do you know what that is ??
Well besides being the near side sideskirt .....
it's actually the final piece of bodywork I need to make.
Hoorahhhh
Engine bay work in the new year, plumbing, fuel, brakes, wiring.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
Hell of a milestone
Good on you , and they look a proper professional job
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Good on you , and they look a proper professional job
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 28, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
"the final piece of bodywork I need to make"
Thats really really good news :wee_hee:
Thats really really good news :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 28, 2020, 10:13:59 PM
Post by: Casey on December 28, 2020, 10:13:59 PM
Great milestone to reach Jamie :sign0098:
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Post by: boosted on December 28, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
Welldone Jamie...oily bits now!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 29, 2020, 01:30:30 AM
Post by: MattScott on December 29, 2020, 01:30:30 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 28, 2020, 05:16:26 PMWow thats a great end to the year. Plenty of stuff for 2021 but definitely less work than working with fibreglass! Look forward to seeing the oily bits come together and getting Rous fiREd
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Do you know what that is ??
Well besides being the near side sideskirt .....
it's actually the final piece of bodywork I need to make.
Hoorahhhh
Engine bay work in the new year, plumbing, fuel, brakes, wiring.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on December 30, 2020, 07:44:19 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 30, 2020, 07:44:19 PM
Good progress, keep it up.
Just be thankful you've got something to keep you busy, all of my projects are worked up and I'm looking for something new to do.
Along with moving house, 2 young children and a whole lot of other shit lol
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Just be thankful you've got something to keep you busy, all of my projects are worked up and I'm looking for something new to do.
Along with moving house, 2 young children and a whole lot of other shit lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 11:25:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 11:25:02 AM
Ok so onto to mechanicals, plumbing and wiring in the new year.
Some of you won't know but I've decided to take the plunge and rebuild and port my own engine.
Armed with my msp manual and I'll buy a street port template kit. I'm going to attack it. How hard can it be ???
So any views advice guidance is always welcomed.
One thing I defo want to do is fit a lightened flywheel. Is it worth having the e-shaft and rotors balanced as well ??? Obviously I'll send that away, no idea where, I'll try Lidl over the road from me.
I have a few bits n pieces around me need to buy a rebuild kit, seals n stuff, got a high pressure oil thingy and a thermal bypass suppository thing, super quick starter motor.
I know malcom and Jon have dabbled in various guises of renesis engines, but if Wayne or anyone else has any suggestions.
Not gonna waste time on a Bridgeport, read far too many articles about how pointless it is on a renesis (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201231/35d4281794ef943fca9195a1c0ae2589.jpg)
This is gonna be a breeze loll
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Some of you won't know but I've decided to take the plunge and rebuild and port my own engine.
Armed with my msp manual and I'll buy a street port template kit. I'm going to attack it. How hard can it be ???
So any views advice guidance is always welcomed.
One thing I defo want to do is fit a lightened flywheel. Is it worth having the e-shaft and rotors balanced as well ??? Obviously I'll send that away, no idea where, I'll try Lidl over the road from me.
I have a few bits n pieces around me need to buy a rebuild kit, seals n stuff, got a high pressure oil thingy and a thermal bypass suppository thing, super quick starter motor.
I know malcom and Jon have dabbled in various guises of renesis engines, but if Wayne or anyone else has any suggestions.
Not gonna waste time on a Bridgeport, read far too many articles about how pointless it is on a renesis (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201231/35d4281794ef943fca9195a1c0ae2589.jpg)
This is gonna be a breeze loll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 31, 2020, 11:32:58 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 31, 2020, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 11:25:02 AMThink you spelled Grant wrong lol
Ok so onto to mechanicals, plumbing and wiring in the new year.
Some of you won't know but I've decided to take the plunge and rebuild and port my own engine.
Armed with my msp manual and I'll buy a street port template kit. I'm going to attack it. How hard can it be ???
So any views advice guidance is always welcomed.
One thing I defo want to do is fit a lightened flywheel. Is it worth having the e-shaft and rotors balanced as well ??? Obviously I'll send that away, no idea where, I'll try Lidl over the road from me.
I have a few bits n pieces around me need to buy a rebuild kit, seals n stuff, got a high pressure oil thingy and a thermal bypass suppository thing, super quick starter motor.
I know malcom and Jon have dabbled in various guises of renesis engines, but if Wayne or anyone else has any suggestions.
Not gonna waste time on a Bridgeport, read far too many articles about how pointless it is on a renesis (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201231/35d4281794ef943fca9195a1c0ae2589.jpg)
This is gonna be a breeze loll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 11:35:03 AM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 11:35:03 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 11:52:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 11:52:08 AM
Yup seen that used and can find a use for any left over ........
....... cmere cutie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 02:03:11 PM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 02:03:11 PM
Maybe hold off on rebuild til car is done and any issues sorted. I put a brand new rebuilt engine in westy..then ironed out all the issues...mainly oil starvation in corners...lol...wish id found the issues on old engine.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 03:48:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 03:48:46 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 31, 2020, 02:03:11 PMYup soon pull the one out of j900 if needed
Maybe hold off on rebuild til car is done and any issues sorted. I put a brand new rebuilt engine in westy..then ironed out all the issues...mainly oil starvation in corners...lol...wish id found the issues on old engine.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:33:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:33:10 PM
A bridge port isn't pointless, if that was so then a street port would be also pointless
Although. Mazda prety much went balls to the walls with the intake porting to not gain much in the way of gains, however the exhaust port can certainly gain from some improvement, well according to YouTube any way
Which in my eyes would suggest that there are performance gains to be had in the exhaust system.
As Jon says if your engine currently works/worked then get in the car and get it working, then you know there's nothing you have done in the engine for it to not work.
Lemme get a YouTube channel for you to watch, they do all sorts of cnc porting on all types of rotary plates
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Although. Mazda prety much went balls to the walls with the intake porting to not gain much in the way of gains, however the exhaust port can certainly gain from some improvement, well according to YouTube any way
Which in my eyes would suggest that there are performance gains to be had in the exhaust system.
As Jon says if your engine currently works/worked then get in the car and get it working, then you know there's nothing you have done in the engine for it to not work.
Lemme get a YouTube channel for you to watch, they do all sorts of cnc porting on all types of rotary plates
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:35:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:35:21 PM
Also lightening and balancing the rotating assembley is always a good thing however I'm prety sure my bridge port MSP got revved to 9500/10k and wasn't balanced I don't think
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:40:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:40:33 PM
https://youtu.be/HbYkV024bJo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 04:49:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:33:10 PMFrom what I've heard, because the exhaust is so restrictive there's not much to gain by making the intake so large if you can't get the exhaust gases out.
A bridge port isn't pointless, if that was so then a street port would be also pointless
Although. Mazda prety much went balls to the walls with the intake porting to not gain much in the way of gains, however the exhaust port can certainly gain from some improvement, well according to YouTube any way
Which in my eyes would suggest that there are performance gains to be had in the exhaust system.
As Jon says if your engine currently works/worked then get in the car and get it working, then you know there's nothing you have done in the engine for it to not work.
Lemme get a YouTube channel for you to watch, they do all sorts of cnc porting on all types of rotary plates
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I've also spoke to people who have ran street port and Bridgeport and their view is the juice ain't worth the squeeze.
Racing beat USA don't do a template for a bridge only a street.
I'm not saying you're wrong grant, which is why I'm welcoming all suggestions etc.
If you notice some of these tuning companies, I'm not going to name names, they quote big numbers on their websites, don't actually show any dyno graphs to back up their claims.
Maybe convert the exhaust to peripheral port lol, the casting has a space for it, now...... where is my hole saw ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 04:51:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 31, 2020, 04:51:10 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 04:40:33 PMYup seen that vid and contacted the company over 12 months ago.....
https://youtu.be/HbYkV024bJo
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..... let's just say they were less than helpful lolll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
Post by: boosted on December 31, 2020, 04:55:36 PM
Having had all 3 flavours of normal street and bridge...the bridge is defo the cream of the crop. Hit those high revs and the power came on with soft vtec like pull really felt it in the Westy.
If your up for id defo consider doing it or specalists will port for you allowing you to build it yourself.
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If your up for id defo consider doing it or specalists will port for you allowing you to build it yourself.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 05:29:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 31, 2020, 05:29:57 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 31, 2020, 04:55:36 PMThat's what I felt with my bridge port, helps carry the power through to those higher rpms as the tertiary ports are opened by the sleeves.
Having had all 3 flavours of normal street and bridge...the bridge is defo the cream of the crop. Hit those high revs and the power came on with soft vtec like pull really felt it in the Westy.
If your up for id defo consider doing it or specalists will port for you allowing you to build it yourself.
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As for dyno sheets for proof... Who's to say that a person hasn't dynod these engines but doesn't feel the need to show a piece of paper for proof?
9.9 out of 10 rotary builders don't share everything they know unfortunately as its all a bug secret.
One thing I get annoyed with all this porting crap is that a lot of people talk about flow but iv never seen anyone put a ported plate on a flow bench and compare different ports.... Because let's face it in the piston world cyclinder head flow is a big thing along with valve angles etc all measured in cfm.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 08:22:56 AM
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 08:22:56 AM
Yes, in paper Renny wont do much power with BridgePort. However, engines behaves completely different. As dudes said, it behaves more agressively. Essex Rotarys Aston and Casey here have lost of info about BP on Renny
Rennys weak point is rotors. From factory, they are uneven balance. If you rebuild, you need to balance those. And usually that means finding suiting pair of rotors.
I have "destroyed" few Rennys to see how far you can port. And thats really because now one doesent share their info. Its not that difficult to port, but you need to be carefull. There is no room for agressive porting. Portind on Rennys is more smoothing than porting.
All those being said, power on Rennys comes from those secondary valves and their shape. This, I dont know nothing about how they do that
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Rennys weak point is rotors. From factory, they are uneven balance. If you rebuild, you need to balance those. And usually that means finding suiting pair of rotors.
I have "destroyed" few Rennys to see how far you can port. And thats really because now one doesent share their info. Its not that difficult to port, but you need to be carefull. There is no room for agressive porting. Portind on Rennys is more smoothing than porting.
All those being said, power on Rennys comes from those secondary valves and their shape. This, I dont know nothing about how they do that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 08:49:34 AM
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 08:49:34 AM
Its all about intake runner length Jarno...read up on old skool velocity stacks. The 787b had a velocity stack that would change the intake length with engine rpm.
The renny is a sort of 3 position intake length system the ssv and vdi open and close at particular rpms for best performance due to intake air velocity.
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The renny is a sort of 3 position intake length system the ssv and vdi open and close at particular rpms for best performance due to intake air velocity.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
Yes, exatly. However, I ment that I dont know how to port those secondary valves. Top end power comes from there
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Oops soz mate..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 02, 2021, 01:46:30 PMWhat?
Oops soz mate..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 04:12:03 PM
Post by: boosted on January 02, 2021, 04:12:03 PM
Joule?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 07:22:12 PM
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 02, 2021, 04:12:03 PMWhat what?
Joule?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 02, 2021, 08:22:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 02, 2021, 08:22:47 PM
Quote from: re japi on January 02, 2021, 07:22:12 PMYou said what? Sounds like watt. = unit of power.Quote from: boosted on January 02, 2021, 04:12:03 PMWhat what?
Joule?
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So Jon said joule..... unit of energy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
Post by: re japi on January 02, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 02, 2021, 08:22:47 PMQuote from: re japi on January 02, 2021, 07:22:12 PMYou said what? Sounds like watt. = unit of power.Quote from: boosted on January 02, 2021, 04:12:03 PMWhat what?
Joule?
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So Jon said joule..... unit of energy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 06:57:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 06:57:37 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210107/6f4b646eaadf0e0427efae1bb85acf6e.jpg)
Back on 4 wheels after months....
Let's hope I can report on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the words of encouragement
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Back on 4 wheels after months....
Let's hope I can report on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the words of encouragement
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 07:17:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 07:17:09 AM
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Back on 4 wheels after months....
Let's hope I can report on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the words of encouragement
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Back on 4 wheels after months....
Let's hope I can report on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the words of encouragement
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 07:27:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 07:27:39 AM
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Back on 4 wheels after months
Hopefully I can start reporting on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the encouragement to get here.
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Back on 4 wheels after months
Hopefully I can start reporting on something far more interesting in the near future.
Thanks for all the encouragement to get here.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 08:25:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2021, 08:25:27 AM
LOL think tapatalk has been on a mission lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2021, 09:43:55 AM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2021, 09:43:55 AM
Ive been having same problem...tapatalk on here very clunky but fine elsewhere.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2021, 09:45:12 AM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2021, 09:45:12 AM
Get this message...so discard post and it post anyway. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210107/b19932237bf22480f0f691ba64c29d6f.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 11:38:02 AM
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 11:38:02 AM
That looks gorgeous :love4: :sign0098:
I stopped using tapatalk about 2 years ago as it would never work as well as viewing via a browser.
It could be the Tapatalk "plugin" for this forum SMF software needs an update. Not sure where to start with that though......
I stopped using tapatalk about 2 years ago as it would never work as well as viewing via a browser.
It could be the Tapatalk "plugin" for this forum SMF software needs an update. Not sure where to start with that though......
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
Looks fab
Can't wait to see it one colour
Primer will do Jamie
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Can't wait to see it one colour
Primer will do Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 11:42:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 11:42:27 AM
Lol you wouldn't be the first to say that lol
All good things buddy lol
I didn't summat stupid this morning, thought about white with racing beat red n blue livery, but then quickly back to Mazda racing orange
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All good things buddy lol
I didn't summat stupid this morning, thought about white with racing beat red n blue livery, but then quickly back to Mazda racing orange
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 11:44:20 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 11:44:20 AM
Nowt silly about either colours
Dukes of hazard orange like ?
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Dukes of hazard orange like ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 11:45:11 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 11:45:11 AM
Mazda mx5 2019 30th anniversary colours
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 12:03:04 PM
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 12:03:04 PM
Did a bit of tidying up guys ;)
No need to quote the original post if it's directly above. It makes it harder to read and eats up storage space (esp with photos). We've got oodles of space (at the moment) on the new hosting deal, but I'm somewhat paranoid after we ran into the buffers on space with our previous host This caused the forum to keep crashing last year. We were then held to ransom with a 10x hike in cost, forcing a rapid move to a new host.
Carry on, sorry for the interruption to service :)
No need to quote the original post if it's directly above. It makes it harder to read and eats up storage space (esp with photos). We've got oodles of space (at the moment) on the new hosting deal, but I'm somewhat paranoid after we ran into the buffers on space with our previous host This caused the forum to keep crashing last year. We were then held to ransom with a 10x hike in cost, forcing a rapid move to a new host.
Carry on, sorry for the interruption to service :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 12:10:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 12:10:21 PM
Hey Malcolm.
I'm used to using up loads of space, generally when my 18 stone frame sits down lol .
Started my health kick on Monday. Been on the treadmill sweating and wheezing every night this week.
Living on fresh air and salad. Gotta get down to 13.5 stone.
So in addition to losing weight, getting healthy, and enjoying exercise, I'm reliving my youth with another set of 4 wheeled transport
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Joined the over 40s skateboard club too lol
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I'm used to using up loads of space, generally when my 18 stone frame sits down lol .
Started my health kick on Monday. Been on the treadmill sweating and wheezing every night this week.
Living on fresh air and salad. Gotta get down to 13.5 stone.
So in addition to losing weight, getting healthy, and enjoying exercise, I'm reliving my youth with another set of 4 wheeled transport
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210108/09e7a56b219fff1335ed40fc9a2ce1da.jpg)
Joined the over 40s skateboard club too lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 12:23:01 PM
Post by: Casey on January 08, 2021, 12:23:01 PM
Well done you!
I bet that skateboard doesn't handle well in the ice though, even though it's 4 wheel drive :))
I managed to get down from 13st 5lb to just until 12st over the year to December. Simple changes in diet and more exercise did the trick.
I then decided to relax the regime over December and enjoy the festive period. Back on the old regime now (apart from the Panettone we still have to eat sometime :P), and already back down to 12st 4lb this morning. Ideally, I'd like to be in the range 11st 7lb to 12st, so If I can get down to 11st 7lb by next Christmas I'll have headroom to relax the diet and not worry about it!
One issue is my 36" trousers are all getting loose, so having to get some 34". Maybe I can even get to the 32" of my early 20's at some point :)
I bet that skateboard doesn't handle well in the ice though, even though it's 4 wheel drive :))
I managed to get down from 13st 5lb to just until 12st over the year to December. Simple changes in diet and more exercise did the trick.
I then decided to relax the regime over December and enjoy the festive period. Back on the old regime now (apart from the Panettone we still have to eat sometime :P), and already back down to 12st 4lb this morning. Ideally, I'd like to be in the range 11st 7lb to 12st, so If I can get down to 11st 7lb by next Christmas I'll have headroom to relax the diet and not worry about it!
One issue is my 36" trousers are all getting loose, so having to get some 34". Maybe I can even get to the 32" of my early 20's at some point :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 08, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 08, 2021, 12:10:21 PMUsed to love skateboarding
Hey Malcolm.
I'm used to using up loads of space, generally when my 18 stone frame sits down lol .
Started my health kick on Monday. Been on the treadmill sweating and wheezing every night this week.
Living on fresh air and salad. Gotta get down to 13.5 stone.
So in addition to losing weight, getting healthy, and enjoying exercise, I'm reliving my youth with another set of 4 wheeled transport
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210108/09e7a56b219fff1335ed40fc9a2ce1da.jpg)
Joined the over 40s skateboard club too lol
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I do use treadmill everyday power walking as it free's up a tight back
Have started light jogging but me knees ain't feeling the love
Just ordered a spin bike
Should be here early next week
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on January 09, 2021, 05:06:49 AM
Post by: re japi on January 09, 2021, 05:06:49 AM
That car is really going to be sick!!! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 11:46:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 11:46:56 AM
AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
F**K
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 11:46:56 AMWhat's with the water pistols ?
AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
F**K
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 12:24:40 PM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 12:24:40 PM
What's happened ???
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 12:30:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 12:30:51 PM
More fibreglass lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 09, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 09, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
Well thats better than casualty given the skateboarding
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 12:43:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 12:43:37 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 12:22:44 PMYa can't beat a squirterQuote from: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 11:46:56 AMWhat's with the water pistols ?
AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
F**K
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 04:11:16 PM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 04:11:16 PM
That's a relief. Thought you'd broken something, car or you ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
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Nah nothing that drastic.
Just thought I'd seen the back of grp.
Been trying to find a decent place on the dashboard to mount my lcd display for the electric water pump.
Trouble is, my dashboard has more curves than a supersize BBW bikini contest.
So taking inspiration from the inside of Clive's rx4, thought I'd make a panel up in the roof to mount it and space for some additional rocker switches etc.
It will cover the cross beam for the roll cage too
More filler n sanding ......
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Nah nothing that drastic.
Just thought I'd seen the back of grp.
Been trying to find a decent place on the dashboard to mount my lcd display for the electric water pump.
Trouble is, my dashboard has more curves than a supersize BBW bikini contest.
So taking inspiration from the inside of Clive's rx4, thought I'd make a panel up in the roof to mount it and space for some additional rocker switches etc.
It will cover the cross beam for the roll cage too
More filler n sanding ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 04:40:09 PM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 04:40:09 PM
I like that idea. Looks superb on the RX-4, very futuristic :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 06:13:57 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 06:13:57 AM
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.... and I thought I went too far !
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.... and I thought I went too far !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 09:12:16 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 09:12:16 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 06:13:57 AMThat be handy for hay bayling
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.... and I thought I went too far !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 09:35:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 09:12:16 AM1600bhp combine harvester 0-60 fields in 3 minsQuote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 06:13:57 AMThat be handy for hay bayling
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.... and I thought I went too far !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 11:54:22 AM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 11:54:22 AM
Jamie, Just seen this picture on FB.
I dont know if you have fitted the box up in the cars tunnel yet, but its maybe worth knowing the the five speed box is much slimmer and lighter.
I dont know if you have fitted the box up in the cars tunnel yet, but its maybe worth knowing the the five speed box is much slimmer and lighter.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:44:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:44:51 PM
Yup I bought a 5 speeder and R3 diff back in 2019 I think. Not got round to fitting
The 6 speed box had some aluminium webbing ground off to fit.
A lotus chassis is easy as it's sheet steel.
Introduce my box section chassis and the hole it goes up in is 2" narrower.
Either way up, the chassis accepts a six speeder if I decide to revert back
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The 6 speed box had some aluminium webbing ground off to fit.
A lotus chassis is easy as it's sheet steel.
Introduce my box section chassis and the hole it goes up in is 2" narrower.
Either way up, the chassis accepts a six speeder if I decide to revert back
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 05:10:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 05:10:46 PM
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The gods were looking down on me. Found a piece of Ali tube that's been collecting dust for years, and it's mm perfect for my stock rx8 washer bottle cap.
I feel some tig welding coming up soon
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The gods were looking down on me. Found a piece of Ali tube that's been collecting dust for years, and it's mm perfect for my stock rx8 washer bottle cap.
I feel some tig welding coming up soon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
Does anyone have an RX8 coolant flow diagram showing all the components.
Too lazy to pull stuff out the engine bay to trace it
Google not being very helpful either
I thought i had a copy on my phone
Thanks
J
Too lazy to pull stuff out the engine bay to trace it
Google not being very helpful either
I thought i had a copy on my phone
Thanks
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 11, 2021, 12:28:07 PM
Post by: boosted on January 11, 2021, 12:28:07 PM
Rx8 technical on here
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 11, 2021, 12:58:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 11, 2021, 12:58:38 PM
Engine, water pump, radiator, engine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 11, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 11, 2021, 12:58:38 PMThanks for your advice lol needed something a little more detailed lol
Engine, water pump, radiator, engine
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I'm positioning the outlets for my Ali header tank and rather have them pointing in the right directions
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 12, 2021, 12:56:02 PM
Post by: Casey on January 12, 2021, 12:56:02 PM
I had a quick look and couldn't see anything for for complete RX-8 coolant setup. I'd previously seen a great diagram for the FD, and can find that quite easily , but not the equivalent one for the renesis engine :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 12, 2021, 01:22:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 12, 2021, 01:22:11 PM
No stress Malcolm, thanks for looking.
I had one but cant find it, prolly saved on my puter somewhere
I had one but cant find it, prolly saved on my puter somewhere
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
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Made these at work today.
People like merlin motorsport stopped selling them for whatever reason
Happy to make them if anyone needs some.
Obviously tooling constraints means I can't make a whole bonnet etc.
But there's some options
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Made these at work today.
People like merlin motorsport stopped selling them for whatever reason
Happy to make them if anyone needs some.
Obviously tooling constraints means I can't make a whole bonnet etc.
But there's some options
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 13, 2021, 02:03:50 PM
Post by: Casey on January 13, 2021, 02:03:50 PM
Those louvres look really smooth, unlike the ones on my ultrasonic cleaning bath that I discovered were razor sharp when I wondered what caused all that blood on my hand a couple of days ago!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 13, 2021, 02:11:03 PM
Post by: boosted on January 13, 2021, 02:11:03 PM
Could i have some...looking at options for the mx5 turbo bonnet last couple of days.. only 2 small 1s. 4 louvres ea.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
Ok so, a couple of parameters.
2mm thick maximum thickness.
Louvres are 100mm long.
Tool punches 3 louvres at a time .....
If you can work around that ???
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2mm thick maximum thickness.
Louvres are 100mm long.
Tool punches 3 louvres at a time .....
If you can work around that ???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:43:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:43:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 13, 2021, 02:11:03 PMI could do you multiples of 3 Jon.
Could i have some...looking at options for the mx5 turbo bonnet last couple of days.. only 2 small 1s. 4 louvres ea.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 13, 2021, 04:20:55 PM
Post by: boosted on January 13, 2021, 04:20:55 PM
Yes pls.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 09:24:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:41:30 PMMonsieur Roberts
Ok so, a couple of parameters.
2mm thick maximum thickness.
Louvres are 100mm long.
Tool punches 3 louvres at a time .....
If you can work around that ???
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Can I test you ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 06:07:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 06:07:36 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 09:24:47 PMFire aheadQuote from: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:41:30 PMMonsieur Roberts
Ok so, a couple of parameters.
2mm thick maximum thickness.
Louvres are 100mm long.
Tool punches 3 louvres at a time .....
If you can work around that ???
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Can I test you ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:26:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:26:55 PM
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Goodies have arrived!
Cheers captain Clive
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Goodies have arrived!
Cheers captain Clive
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 15, 2021, 12:31:01 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 15, 2021, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 06:07:36 AMThese ventsQuote from: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 09:24:47 PMFire aheadQuote from: Jamie R on January 13, 2021, 02:41:30 PMMonsieur Roberts
Ok so, a couple of parameters.
2mm thick maximum thickness.
Louvres are 100mm long.
Tool punches 3 louvres at a time .....
If you can work around that ???
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Can I test you ?
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Could you manipulate them to the shape of the top of the wing ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:38:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:38:17 PM
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You can in one direction
I hope my scribble makes sense
J
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You can in one direction
I hope my scribble makes sense
J
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:40:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:40:15 PM
I've twisted my Louvre panel to fit I'll take a pic later n show you when I'm home
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 15, 2021, 12:43:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 15, 2021, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 12:40:15 PMThanks
I've twisted my Louvre panel to fit I'll take a pic later n show you when I'm home
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Yeah I think that makes sense
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
Got mine thanks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210115/fa64ab3af9d98a7571cdb90cb20192a2.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 01:42:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 01:42:29 PM
That was quick
Good -o
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 01:45:35 PM
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 01:45:35 PM
Yeah..goodies day for me. Up from nights to 2 packages and 2 letters..woohoo.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 02:00:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 02:00:45 PM
Goodies all round then,
I'm even going to be running parts from Christine, I hope that's not a bad omen lol
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I'm even going to be running parts from Christine, I hope that's not a bad omen lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Id bathe parts in holy water if i was you
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 02:16:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2021, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 15, 2021, 02:02:30 PMLooks a quality bit of kit tho
Id bathe parts in holy water if i was you
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 19, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
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Anyone for upside down fibreglassing???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 20, 2021, 09:57:49 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 20, 2021, 09:57:49 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 19, 2021, 05:38:39 PMSo did you emerge looking like a snowman??!!
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Anyone for upside down fibreglassing???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 20, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
Post by: Casey on January 20, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
:)) :))
Nice PPE though :icon_thumleft:
Nice PPE though :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 05:00:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 05:00:37 AM
Quote from: MattScott on January 20, 2021, 09:57:49 PMMore like the stay puff marshmallow man from ghostbusters lolQuote from: Jamie R on January 19, 2021, 05:38:39 PMSo did you emerge looking like a snowman??!!
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Anyone for upside down fibreglassing???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 05:01:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 05:01:20 AM
Quote from: Casey on January 20, 2021, 10:23:38 PMPerks of where I work. 3M baby ! Only the best lol
:)) :))
Nice PPE though :icon_thumleft:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2021, 07:52:00 PM
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Change of medium tonight in the form of silicone hoses.
Plumbing the rad and EWP.
Clive I bought that EWP off you soooo long ago I think you wrote my invoice on parchment paper.
About time I got round to getting it in place
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Change of medium tonight in the form of silicone hoses.
Plumbing the rad and EWP.
Clive I bought that EWP off you soooo long ago I think you wrote my invoice on parchment paper.
About time I got round to getting it in place
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 21, 2021, 08:40:12 PM
Post by: Casey on January 21, 2021, 08:40:12 PM
That looks very neat in there Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 11:14:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 11:14:53 AM
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Got an early shift in before work this morning
Something to demould when I get home
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Got an early shift in before work this morning
Something to demould when I get home
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 27, 2021, 12:13:23 PM
Post by: Casey on January 27, 2021, 12:13:23 PM
Annnnd..................what happened?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
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Annnnd..................what happened?
Ah sorry Malcolm,
Yes raging success, it fits too, not bolted it up yet.
I'm currently making aluminium tanks for various fluids. Messing around with plumbing, pestering Jon on his weekends, looking at the FPR I got. Working out where stuff is going.
It's all a bit hectic, lots of stuff going on. I dunno what to update you all on lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 07:27:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 07:27:31 PM
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2 new tanks for the engine bay, header tank on the left.
The one on the right is 2 tanks in one, washer bottle and oil catch tank in case she burps on corners. Also drains back into the sump.
Promise I'll use something more substantial than gaffer tape to mount it
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2 new tanks for the engine bay, header tank on the left.
The one on the right is 2 tanks in one, washer bottle and oil catch tank in case she burps on corners. Also drains back into the sump.
Promise I'll use something more substantial than gaffer tape to mount it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 27, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
Post by: Casey on January 27, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
:sign0098:
Nothing wrong with gaffer tape :))
Nothing wrong with gaffer tape :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: Casey on January 27, 2021, 08:09:14 PMOr tie wraps !!
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Nothing wrong with gaffer tape :))
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 27, 2021, 09:48:00 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 27, 2021, 09:48:00 PM
Good job indeed! Just managed to get through all 121 pages. I'll get to the compliments when I'm finished blinking. Amazing project!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 10:21:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on January 27, 2021, 09:48:00 PMMany thanks
Good job indeed! Just managed to get through all 121 pages. I'll get to the compliments when I'm finished blinking. Amazing project!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 10:22:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 09:45:49 PMHave you pair got some kinky bondage fetish ?Quote from: Casey on January 27, 2021, 08:09:14 PMOr tie wraps !!
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Nothing wrong with gaffer tape :))
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Gaffer tape, tie wraps..... you'll be suggesting I finish the car with nipple clamps lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 11:58:42 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 27, 2021, 10:22:41 PMQuote from: MattScott on January 27, 2021, 09:45:49 PMHave you pair got some kinky bondage fetish ?Quote from: Casey on January 27, 2021, 08:09:14 PMOr tie wraps !!
:sign0098:
Nothing wrong with gaffer tape :))
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Gaffer tape, tie wraps..... you'll be suggesting I finish the car with nipple clamps lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 28, 2021, 04:41:59 PM
Post by: Casey on January 28, 2021, 04:41:59 PM
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
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So the mod of the day ...
Heated throttle body, could easily delete the pipes if needed, won't hurt in this climate.
However I'll leave for now......
Anyway, the usual exit at the top is fine until you put a rubber hose on it, then when you close the bonnet the gel coat cracks **** my life !!!
Drill a new hole and chuck a fitting in and cap off the culprit. Job jobbed
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So the mod of the day ...
Heated throttle body, could easily delete the pipes if needed, won't hurt in this climate.
However I'll leave for now......
Anyway, the usual exit at the top is fine until you put a rubber hose on it, then when you close the bonnet the gel coat cracks **** my life !!!
Drill a new hole and chuck a fitting in and cap off the culprit. Job jobbed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Oh dear
That's not good
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That's not good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2021, 04:46:41 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2021, 04:46:41 PM
Could be worse someone could breakin and cover your car with post it notes....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 04:36:44 PMIt's repairable, just annoying
Oh dear
That's not good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
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Bigger fish to fry at mo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 06:29:34 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 30, 2021, 04:46:41 PM
Could be worse someone could breakin and cover your car with post it notes....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 04:48:50 PMWho done your roll cage Jamie ?
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Bigger fish to fry at mo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:02:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:02:55 PM
Me mate, got a hydraulic tube bender at home.
I built it mainly to stiffen up the structure between body and chassis and it's only a backbone chassis.
The A pillars may as well be made out of cardboard so I'll bond them to the roll cage eventually then wrap them
In vinyl so it looks presentable
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I built it mainly to stiffen up the structure between body and chassis and it's only a backbone chassis.
The A pillars may as well be made out of cardboard so I'll bond them to the roll cage eventually then wrap them
In vinyl so it looks presentable
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:15:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 30, 2021, 04:46:41 PMCan you orientate them like when ppl stick tuffs of wool on the bodywork ?
Could be worse someone could breakin and cover your car with post it notes....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 10:01:27 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:02:55 PMBloody nice job boyo
Me mate, got a hydraulic tube bender at home.
I built it mainly to stiffen up the structure between body and chassis and it's only a backbone chassis.
The A pillars may as well be made out of cardboard so I'll bond them to the roll cage eventually then wrap them
In vinyl so it looks presentable
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Da Iawn
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:07:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:07:07 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 10:01:27 PMI don't envy those people who have to fit a whole FIA cage and get it to pass scrutineering.Quote from: Jamie R on January 30, 2021, 07:02:55 PMBloody nice job boyo
Me mate, got a hydraulic tube bender at home.
I built it mainly to stiffen up the structure between body and chassis and it's only a backbone chassis.
The A pillars may as well be made out of cardboard so I'll bond them to the roll cage eventually then wrap them
In vinyl so it looks presentable
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Da Iawn
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Esp if you choose a material that has to be TIG'd ....
Two hands in there, a torch, rods, and try and see the gap between the top of the tube and the roof.
Enough swearing on mine and it's only MIG'd together
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:39:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:39:47 AM
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It's a shame I wasted 90 mins staring at the ceiling. I could have come out here sooner and done something productive.
The neighbours may have phoned the cops and thought the shed getting robbed at that hour lol
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It's a shame I wasted 90 mins staring at the ceiling. I could have come out here sooner and done something productive.
The neighbours may have phoned the cops and thought the shed getting robbed at that hour lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 08:55:28 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 08:55:28 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:39:47 AMWow
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It's a shame I wasted 90 mins staring at the ceiling. I could have come out here sooner and done something productive.
The neighbours may have phoned the cops and thought the shed getting robbed at that hour lol
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How much sleep do you get each. night ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:00:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:00:04 AM
4 or 5 hours some nights
It all catches up on me then I can sleep for a week.
It's coz I'm thinking about the plumbing n electrics on the rotus .
Head is spinning faster than the renesis lol
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Fitted a sohn adaptor this morning
Just making a two stroke oil reservoir that bolts to the front on the engine
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It all catches up on me then I can sleep for a week.
It's coz I'm thinking about the plumbing n electrics on the rotus .
Head is spinning faster than the renesis lol
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Fitted a sohn adaptor this morning
Just making a two stroke oil reservoir that bolts to the front on the engine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
Go big on tank Jamie..its amazing how much you get through on track.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:19:10 AM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:19:10 AM
Regardless of setbacks, its coming along now, interior's looking good. :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:22:50 AM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
Go big on tank Jamie..its amazing how much you get through on track.
Another option if room becomes a problem, is to just pre-mix and just hide the OMP.
As long as the wiring is connected you can just hide the OMP as it does not need to be actualy connected to the engine for the ECU to see it.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:25:00 AM
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Go big on tank Jamie..its amazing how much you get through on track.
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Just crudely bolted this 5mm aluminium to the front to get the basic shape
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:27:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:27:44 AM
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Some 21mm AF hex aluminium bar makes for some great stand offs. Use them as a nut to clamp up the water pump blanking plate.
I'd be stuffed without my little lathe
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Some 21mm AF hex aluminium bar makes for some great stand offs. Use them as a nut to clamp up the water pump blanking plate.
I'd be stuffed without my little lathe
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:32:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:19:10 AMThat's the racer coming out in you lol
Regardless of setbacks, its coming along now, interior's looking good. :great:
Stripped out n a seat and a climbing frame lol
I like a couple of creature comforts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:38:11 AM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:38:11 AM
I ran sohn for abit then i premixed as Clive does..blanked off and left omp plug in bolted further up engine away from header heat.
Wayne would have an idea of how much he gets through through on track. I cant remember...i know i topped up every session but my tank at 500ml was way to small.
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Wayne would have an idea of how much he gets through through on track. I cant remember...i know i topped up every session but my tank at 500ml was way to small.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:22:50 AMQuote from: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
Go big on tank Jamie..its amazing how much you get through on track.
Another option if room becomes a problem, is to just pre-mix and just hide the OMP.
As long as the wiring is connected you can just hide the OMP as it does not need to be actualy connected to the engine for the ECU to see it.
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Plenty of space for a tank
I'll probably add a touch of premix as well as through the omp.
Mainly because just the 2 oil feeds per rotor on the early engines
Put a touch of lube in the middle of the apex
I know it's not rocket science but the less thinking I have to do with working out oil mixes at the pump the less stupid I look.
I'm good at doing that without looking confused as well lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:39:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 09:39:23 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:38:11 AMI reckon I could squeeze a 5 litre tank in here lol
I ran sohn for abit then i premixed as Clive does..blanked off and left omp plug in bolted further up engine away from header heat.
Wayne would have an idea of how much he gets through through on track. I cant remember...i know i topped up every session but my tank at 500ml was way to small.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 09:59:31 AM
I think it's pretty dependant if the Ecu has been mapped to increase the speed omp .
My track car uses half a tank every 15 - 20 mins . Think it's 1 litre tank .
My PZ which isn't mapped doesn't really use a lot
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My track car uses half a tank every 15 - 20 mins . Think it's 1 litre tank .
My PZ which isn't mapped doesn't really use a lot
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 04:46:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 04:46:40 PM
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The rotor emblem may look a bit cheesey, but hey I had the tig welder fired up and couldn't resist a bit of bling.
All ready to be powder coated.
4 litres, baffled and with a fill level sight tube.
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The rotor emblem may look a bit cheesey, but hey I had the tig welder fired up and couldn't resist a bit of bling.
All ready to be powder coated.
4 litres, baffled and with a fill level sight tube.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 05, 2021, 05:43:06 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 05, 2021, 05:43:06 PM
Nothing wrong with a little bling! Sparkley powercoat too ?? 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:44:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: MattScott on February 05, 2021, 05:43:06 PMI'm not that brave lol
Nothing wrong with a little bling! Sparkley powercoat too ??
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Plain ole satin black for me
Hides the oil grime too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 05, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 05, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
Ah yes, I'm no fan of cleaning all the time either! Much prefer the used/driven look
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:56:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:56:50 PM
I've never been into " tarts handbags" or trailer queens to the extent that they have the inside of the exhaust cleaned with toothbrushes etc.
I can appreciate the work n effort that goes into some of these paint jobs with ghosting n shadows that you see on these low rider kustoms. But it's more of a colouring book on wheels than a car lol
If it looks straight, clean lines I'm largely happy.
It doesn't have to look stock (HA no risk there with this plastic pig) but if it all looks cohesive, planned out and well built, it's all good in my book.
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I can appreciate the work n effort that goes into some of these paint jobs with ghosting n shadows that you see on these low rider kustoms. But it's more of a colouring book on wheels than a car lol
If it looks straight, clean lines I'm largely happy.
It doesn't have to look stock (HA no risk there with this plastic pig) but if it all looks cohesive, planned out and well built, it's all good in my book.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 10:24:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 10:24:14 AM
Morning all,
I have a question for the usual gang.........
The RX8 oil filler neck is a big cumbersome thing. Apart from housing the solenoids at the back for the VDI, SSV and air blower(third pic), I cannot see any electrical or mechanical features.
So my question is, can this be replaced with a more simper set up like on the earlier 13b and 12A ( forth pic) Im wondering if I can just weld a tube to a flange and bolt onto the block where the stock one bolts to?
Does anyone know if there is any baffles etc on the inside to prevent burping ( well if there is they dont work ) Obviously a new neck will need venting at the top as per stock set ups.
Just interested to know if its possible, more for aesthetic purposes than any performance improvments
The solenoids can be relocated easy enough.
Lemme know please......
fanx
I have a question for the usual gang.........
The RX8 oil filler neck is a big cumbersome thing. Apart from housing the solenoids at the back for the VDI, SSV and air blower(third pic), I cannot see any electrical or mechanical features.
So my question is, can this be replaced with a more simper set up like on the earlier 13b and 12A ( forth pic) Im wondering if I can just weld a tube to a flange and bolt onto the block where the stock one bolts to?
Does anyone know if there is any baffles etc on the inside to prevent burping ( well if there is they dont work ) Obviously a new neck will need venting at the top as per stock set ups.
Just interested to know if its possible, more for aesthetic purposes than any performance improvments
The solenoids can be relocated easy enough.
Lemme know please......
fanx
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 12:40:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 12:40:31 PM
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Louvres finally fitted to the wings
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 12:41:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 12:41:12 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 06, 2021, 12:53:26 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 06, 2021, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 12:40:31 PMWow she's looking mean !! Very Mad Max
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
Ref oil filling tube. I tried lots of ways to stops burps.. the only thing that stopped it was the sump.
Renny engines had a redesign of the oil tube 2006 onwards.
I see no reason why you cant design your own if using a gated sump..and moving solenoid coils..cant remember if vacuum chamber is attached to tube or uim mind.
I know you have plan for a sump so you should be ok. Its got to breath though else youll get a pressurised sump that will blow the sump seal and possibly diptick out and possible engine smoking. I did some tests with rx7 too and sump znd Clive catchtank return to sump i believe to be the best solution.
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Renny engines had a redesign of the oil tube 2006 onwards.
I see no reason why you cant design your own if using a gated sump..and moving solenoid coils..cant remember if vacuum chamber is attached to tube or uim mind.
I know you have plan for a sump so you should be ok. Its got to breath though else youll get a pressurised sump that will blow the sump seal and possibly diptick out and possible engine smoking. I did some tests with rx7 too and sump znd Clive catchtank return to sump i believe to be the best solution.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:07:27 PMYeah I remember you pointing out the plumbing on Clive's when we were at castle Combe at japfest.
Ref oil filling tube. I tried lots of ways to stops burps.. the only thing that stopped it was the sump.
Renny engines had a redesign of the oil tube 2006 onwards.
I see no reason why you cant design your own if using a gated sump..and moving solenoid coils..cant remember if vacuum chamber is attached to tube or uim mind.
I know you have plan for a sump so you should be ok. Its got to breath though else youll get a pressurised sump that will blow the sump seal and possibly diptick out and possible engine smoking. I did some tests with rx7 too and sump znd Clive catchtank return to sump i believe to be the best solution.
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The oil catch tank I built will drain to sump in similar fashion but I remember Clive's tapped into the front housing.
Fair point on the vacuum chamber I could dissect one and move that with the solenoids. I bought another second hand filler off eBay this morning for 11 quid
That's 2 I can play with
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
On the 7 i played about with various designs and none worked.
The baffle plate in sump reduced it but still burped. I tried penny washer checkvalves etc in the end i hooked up that old v8 diaphrapm carb pump to return to oil filler neck. Wayne doesnt seem to suffer from this? What you done Wayne
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The baffle plate in sump reduced it but still burped. I tried penny washer checkvalves etc in the end i hooked up that old v8 diaphrapm carb pump to return to oil filler neck. Wayne doesnt seem to suffer from this? What you done Wayne
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:36:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:36:40 PM
He told me he doesn't put oil in and lives on hopes n dreams lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
Lol...he puts alot of fuel init..every session he comes in...50litre top ups lol. My little 5 just takes a sip...its the biggest thing ive noticed tracking it...oh do i need fuel yet? nope. I could sell some to Wayne hes on his 4th 50l container
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:42:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:42:48 PM
Hahaha maybe you could top him up on the way round like when they refuel planes in the air lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Problem is id prob get burnt by all the flames coming out of it...at Thruxton he was quicker than me 2...just...b4 he got sent home after 5 black flags .
Was a funny day that.
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.Was a funny day that.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:51:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 06, 2021, 03:51:04 PM
Ah no you need to be in front to refuel him
That will slow him down.
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That will slow him down.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 03:56:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:41:22 PMTwaaaaaaaaaaa** lol
Lol...he puts alot of fuel init..every session he comes in...50litre top ups lol. My little 5 just takes a sip...its the biggest thing ive noticed tracking it...oh do i need fuel yet? nope. I could sell some to Wayne hes on his 4th 50l container
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 03:58:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:34:56 PMMines a 2007 so never suffered an oil burp
On the 7 i played about with various designs and none worked.
The baffle plate in sump reduced it but still burped. I tried penny washer checkvalves etc in the end i hooked up that old v8 diaphrapm carb pump to return to oil filler neck. Wayne doesnt seem to suffer from this? What you done Wayne
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I have in last few years also fitted a Greddy sump and baffle plate
I think the baffle plate helps earlier cars .
Easy peezy just a sheet of alu with a few holes
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 04:01:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 06, 2021, 03:48:16 PMYay loving this
Problem is id prob get burnt by all the flames coming out of it...at Thruxton he was quicker than me 2...just...b4 he got sent home after 5 black flags
Was a funny day that.
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Can't beat a bit of banter
Yeah thruxton was great hanging out with the Wiltshire naughty boy club
They even put us in our own car park
Double numbers in black flags in one group
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 04:06:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 04:06:08 PM
Yeah i need to distance myself a tad from them ..Bedford was the same for noise.. 2 off em kicking off at officials for being banned for noisy cars.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 04:10:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2021, 04:10:08 PM
Wayne..you see the Rover tomcat vid at combe where he takes to the grass? As a kit car brakes on right side off curcuit and waves him past on left that was steve in the tiger R6...its so funny... the rover man was lovely old gent i was chatting to him about his car. Lots of rude words on the vid. Its on a slipn grip vid i think.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
You know when you know someone special when you can sit on the crapper and gave an open conversation with someone and they're on their crapper
It's like a thing..... like the masons or Quaker gathering
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 06:51:33 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 06:51:33 PM
Saw this and it reminded me how small the Elan's were !(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/43ffa4d603d05f24199c3c3b488e0a45.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 07:02:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 06:51:33 PMYup the struggle is real
Saw this and it reminded me how small the Elan's were !(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/43ffa4d603d05f24199c3c3b488e0a45.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 07:14:37 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 07:14:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 07:02:49 PMHope you're gonna fit big guyQuote from: MattScott on February 07, 2021, 06:51:33 PMYup the struggle is real
Saw this and it reminded me how small the Elan's were !(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/43ffa4d603d05f24199c3c3b488e0a45.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2021, 09:40:25 AM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2021, 09:40:25 AM
Oh my that explains the kirkey seat. When your sat init does a helmeted head stick out the roll cage...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
Not quite,
But its close.
As Ive got a flat aluminium underfloor below the original GRP floor im contemplating cutting a hole out and making a GRP well to sit the seat about another 1" lower.
I need to be careful as Im struggling to see over the dash with the steering wheel in place.
The car is tiny !
But its close.
As Ive got a flat aluminium underfloor below the original GRP floor im contemplating cutting a hole out and making a GRP well to sit the seat about another 1" lower.
I need to be careful as Im struggling to see over the dash with the steering wheel in place.
The car is tiny !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 01:29:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 01:29:22 PM
To put it into context.
Excluding my roof scoop, take a tape measure, mark it up the wall at 47 inches, and stand next to it. Thats the height of my roof !!
My belly button comes to roughly 42" (from the floor, not the diameter lol )
Excluding my roof scoop, take a tape measure, mark it up the wall at 47 inches, and stand next to it. Thats the height of my roof !!
My belly button comes to roughly 42" (from the floor, not the diameter lol )
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 08, 2021, 06:17:20 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 08, 2021, 06:17:20 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 01:29:22 PMYou'll need a thin crash helmet lol
To put it into context.
Excluding my roof scoop, take a tape measure, mark it up the wall at 47 inches, and stand next to it. Thats the height of my roof !!
My belly button comes to roughly 42" (from the floor, not the diameter lol )
Wonder how tall Jon's 5 is
The RX8 Is 52 inches
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 08, 2021, 06:20:49 PM
Post by: Casey on February 08, 2021, 06:20:49 PM
That's a great comparison picture! I never realised how small the Elan was either ???
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 06:46:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 08, 2021, 06:20:49 PMThankfully having the plus 2 I get a bit more leg room shoving the seat back
That's a great comparison picture! I never realised how small the Elan was either ???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2021, 06:50:34 PM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2021, 06:50:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 08, 2021, 06:17:20 PMIve spent 3 day getting my seat right...its on the floor now.. ill be ok if i roll on flat ground...Quote from: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 01:29:22 PMYou'll need a thin crash helmet lol
To put it into context.
Excluding my roof scoop, take a tape measure, mark it up the wall at 47 inches, and stand next to it. Thats the height of my roof !!
My belly button comes to roughly 42" (from the floor, not the diameter lol )
Wonder how tall Jon's 5 is
The RX8 Is 52 inches
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 08, 2021, 06:17:20 PMQuote from: Jamie R on February 08, 2021, 01:29:22 PMYou'll need a thin crash helmet lol
To put it into context.
Excluding my roof scoop, take a tape measure, mark it up the wall at 47 inches, and stand next to it. Thats the height of my roof !!
My belly button comes to roughly 42" (from the floor, not the diameter lol )
Wonder how tall Jon's 5 is
The RX8 Is 52 inches
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Yeah the 8 is tight too on stock seats with a helmet.
I noticed that at curborough
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2021, 04:10:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2021, 04:10:09 PM
So when work drop a bombshell on me and tell me that I allegedly have 5 days holiday carried over from last year that I need to take before the end of March.
Pffffft "keep a straight face Jamie" yes OK I can take them before end of march. Door closes, check my holidays, nope used all last years, but you wanna pay me to work on my car? Break me off a piece of that !
So productive day so far, made hose separators, mounted my reservoirs somewhere sensible, made some brackets, plumbed the low pressure side all in and made a nice lil bracket for my brake bias balance bar adjuster, which i wish now I just called it a knob.
Happy days.
Pffffft "keep a straight face Jamie" yes OK I can take them before end of march. Door closes, check my holidays, nope used all last years, but you wanna pay me to work on my car? Break me off a piece of that !
So productive day so far, made hose separators, mounted my reservoirs somewhere sensible, made some brackets, plumbed the low pressure side all in and made a nice lil bracket for my brake bias balance bar adjuster, which i wish now I just called it a knob.
Happy days.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
I think I have finally stopped blinking now. This is the wildest & most impressive project I've seen since the Ford Saxon:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/ (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/)
Do you have a colour in mind yet? Is it going to be:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/ (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/)
Do you have a colour in mind yet? Is it going to be:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2021, 09:42:10 AM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2021, 09:42:10 AM
Very nice that orange. Jamie was considering... Burgundy
i hope ive convinced him otherwise.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 13, 2021, 09:42:10 AMOh Jon you're so 2018 darling lol
Very nice that orange. Jamie was considering... Burgundy
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You know I'm going Mazda racing orange from the 30th anniversary mx5 lol
With satin black accents
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2021, 09:45:37 AM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2021, 09:45:37 AM
Its positive re enforcement...in action.
Great colour choice im tempted orange as well.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 09:46:44 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 09:46:44 AM
Excellent choice! :great:
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Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 09:47:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 09:40:13 AMES that's the oddest mk1 cortina.
I think I have finally stopped blinking now. This is the wildest & most impressive project I've seen since the Ford Saxon:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/ (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/08/car_spotlight_gt_gt_the_car_that_never_was/)
Do you have a colour in mind yet? Is it going to be:
I'm not sold on it, might be because I love the mk1 Tina so much
But definitely different
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 10:12:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 10:12:03 AM
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ES as wild as you think it is, nothing exciting going on at mo, waiting for parts for new oil filler neck in stainless.
This is so it frees up some space on the engine and cleans it up.
Moves the vacuum chamber and solenoids away from the exhaust
And when I get a shakey hand I don't miss the hole with the oil can and tip it all over the alternator.
So the highlight of today is a crude jig out of a bit of crappy timber to locate brackets as the filler neck supports the upper intake and throttle body.
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ES as wild as you think it is, nothing exciting going on at mo, waiting for parts for new oil filler neck in stainless.
This is so it frees up some space on the engine and cleans it up.
Moves the vacuum chamber and solenoids away from the exhaust
And when I get a shakey hand I don't miss the hole with the oil can and tip it all over the alternator.
So the highlight of today is a crude jig out of a bit of crappy timber to locate brackets as the filler neck supports the upper intake and throttle body.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 05:39:06 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 05:39:06 PM
You're living dangerously, Jamie. If you say you love Cortinas, I just have to post a pic of my old pre-rotary banger... ;)
Sorry, folks.
Sorry, folks.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 05:39:06 PMVery nice ES the mk1's were by far the best shape.
You're living dangerously, Jamie. If you say you love Cortinas, I just have to post a pic of my old pre-rotary banger... ;)
Sorry, folks.
Good colour too.
I tried building a space framed ford anglia 105e about 20 years ago. The chassis was easy but my tin work isn't the best and probably still isn't. Panel beating and using an English wheel is something I've always wanted to do but never got round to it.
I mothballed that project pulled the Vauxhall XE engine out and built a mk1 escort estate using that engine. It was featured in classic ford magazine and on the front cover.
I also owned a 36k mile from new ford Corsair 2000e. V4 engine. 3 speed auto. I loved it, blue mink metallic with a black vinyl roof. Then 2 youths t boned me off the road as they come out of a field and left me in a ditch. That was the end of that car.
I really want another 105e anglia. It's my favourite shaped car of all time. Maybe one day.
In the meantime, The rotary bug has me .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 07:13:13 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 13, 2021, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
I mothballed that project pulled the Vauxhall XE engine out and built a mk1 escort estate using that engine. It was featured in classic ford magazine and on the front cover.
Small world! What year & issue of Classic Ford was that? I have a pile of them in the basement. Will look it up! :great:
Yes, I have a weakness for Anglias, too. Especially the vans. But as you say, then came the rotary experience. And I'm afraid that Japanese reliability is seriously addictive.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
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March 2006
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2021, 08:09:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2021, 08:09:47 PM
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There's a boat load of coloured thingys going in.
Can't say I'm a huge fan, but my Wiltshire wing man has my back...... lol I hope
I'll try n save you an illegal lockdown trip to brummie land fella
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There's a boat load of coloured thingys going in.
Can't say I'm a huge fan, but my Wiltshire wing man has my back...... lol I hope
I'll try n save you an illegal lockdown trip to brummie land fella
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2021, 07:16:14 AM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2021, 07:16:14 AM
Looking at the pic are the ecu plugs long enough to reach the ecu? May not need extending
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 07:17:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 07:17:20 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2021, 07:16:14 AMYeah they defo do.
Looking at the pic are the ecu plugs long enough to reach the ecu? May not need extending
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Prolly need another 6" ..... cough
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 17, 2021, 08:22:23 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 17, 2021, 08:22:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
March 2006
Ah. Oldest issue in my pile is April 2007. Time flies. Great Escort Estate, though! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 08:23:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 08:23:12 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on February 17, 2021, 08:22:23 AMYeah I'm old too lolQuote from: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
March 2006
Ah. Oldest issue in my pile is April 2007. Time flies. Great Escort Estate, though! :sign0098:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2021, 08:24:47 AM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2021, 08:24:47 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 07:17:20 AMThought so but looked like it might pop through bulkhead. There was plenty on Clives engine loom when extended.Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2021, 07:16:14 AMYeah they defo do.
Looking at the pic are the ecu plugs long enough to reach the ecu? May not need extending
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Prolly need another 6" ..... cough
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 01:25:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2021, 08:24:47 AMThe bulkhead on the lotus is a strange stepped one. It looks odd because there is loads of room behind it hence the exhaust pipe is there.Quote from: Jamie R on February 17, 2021, 07:17:20 AMThought so but looked like it might pop through bulkhead. There was plenty on Clives engine loom when extended.Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2021, 07:16:14 AMYeah they defo do.
Looking at the pic are the ecu plugs long enough to reach the ecu? May not need extending
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Prolly need another 6" ..... cough
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The engine is around 3 inches further back from the front axle centreline compared to the stock rx8. If the footwell is about 12" further forward than the bulkhead. So if it was "normal" I'd be easy on without needing to extend.
It is what it is. We overcome these little issues.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 07:44:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 07:44:22 AM
Building a Jon boosted specification extended wiring loom.
Crimps .... heat shrink ....... tape
One down ....... 72 to go
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Crimps .... heat shrink ....... tape
One down ....... 72 to go
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 20, 2021, 01:35:33 PM
Post by: Casey on February 20, 2021, 01:35:33 PM
The "wrapper" looks good at least ;)
Should be a reliable and neat solution, as long as kept clear of heavy water spray :icon_thumleft:
Should be a reliable and neat solution, as long as kept clear of heavy water spray :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
If you want to get all anal Jamie. After each 1 " verify". So identify cable and ecu pinout number from drawings then the end termination at plug and continuity test ( beep test or ohms test). That way your checking your work as you go.
I done this on all my looms....its time consuming but will save oddles of time at end if the bugger dont start.
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I done this on all my looms....its time consuming but will save oddles of time at end if the bugger dont start.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 01:46:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 20, 2021, 01:42:32 PMI've never been into that, but I'll check the wiring
If you want to get all anal Jamie. After each 1 " verify". So identify cable and ecu pinout number from drawings then the end termination at plug and continuity test ( beep test or ohms test). That way your checking your work as you go.
I done this on all my looms....its time consuming but will save oddles of time at end if the bugger dont start.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 01:54:00 PM
Needs doing its quite easy to join the wrong to wires together..far easier to verify now than try n find later.
After engine loom..i think you should do power loom after. Alternator starter battery and fuse box feed. Whilst you got the most room.
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After engine loom..i think you should do power loom after. Alternator starter battery and fuse box feed. Whilst you got the most room.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:03:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:03:19 PM
Yeah I was gonna have another catch up after this to discuss next stages. I'll mount the ecu first somewhere appropriate after checking the loom .
Tbh, I've cut one wire at a time and double checked pin location before joining.
I'll be amazed if I got any wires incorrect...... famous last words lol
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Tbh, I've cut one wire at a time and double checked pin location before joining.
I'll be amazed if I got any wires incorrect...... famous last words lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
Yep what yer doing with immobilser reader and key barrel etc.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:08:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:08:07 PM
Stock key barrel in the ignition switch.
I saw the brown box with key summat stickers on it.
Wasn't gonna run immobiliser. But open to suggestions
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I saw the brown box with key summat stickers on it.
Wasn't gonna run immobiliser. But open to suggestions
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
You could be my guinea pig?
You cant circumvent the immobilser. Canbus key reader etc...but i think i know a away..
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You cant circumvent the immobilser. Canbus key reader etc...but i think i know a away..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:34:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 02:34:36 PM
Let's keep it simple.
I can do simple lol
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I can do simple lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:06:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:06:12 PM
I just googled "all anal Jamie" was not disappointed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:06:12 PMShhhhh let's keep it our little secret
I just googled "all anal Jamie" was not disappointed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
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Bit of woodwork this weekend got the ole gurl back up in the air
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
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Looks better than my mock up battery anyway
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Looks better than my mock up battery anyway
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2021, 02:01:15 PM
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2021, 02:01:15 PM
Those stands look very neat :great:
Is that a new type of green, recycleable battery? ;D
Very lightweight, by the looks of it :)
Is that a new type of green, recycleable battery? ;D
Very lightweight, by the looks of it :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 28, 2021, 02:01:15 PMMy old ones I made at work, they were free just heavy.
Those stands look very neat :great:
Is that a new type of green, recycleable battery? ;D
Very lightweight, by the looks of it :)
These ones cost me 85 quid in timber n screws but made to measure and give me 20" extra ground clearance to mess about underneath and when fin I can use them for planters lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2021, 03:40:25 PM
Great plan :icon_thumleft:
Although I thought you'd been recycling bits of old pallets though ;)
Although I thought you'd been recycling bits of old pallets though ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 28, 2021, 04:15:29 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 28, 2021, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:47:47 PMJenga anyone ??
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Bit of woodwork this weekend got the ole gurl back up in the air
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 04:34:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: MattScott on February 28, 2021, 04:15:29 PMLollllQuote from: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 01:47:47 PMJenga anyone ??
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Bit of woodwork this weekend got the ole gurl back up in the air
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 04:43:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 04:43:13 PM
Snow it's up in the air them sides and front bits look epic fair play
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 05:09:51 PM
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Snow it's up in the air them sides and front bits look epic fair play
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Gotta start pulling all this off soon so I can do plumbing and wiring
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 05:42:25 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 05:09:51 PMFlat floor ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 04:43:13 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210228/56d3674fab255cc9578150d9f7b2815a.jpg)
Snow it's up in the air them sides and front bits look epic fair play
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Gotta start pulling all this off soon so I can do plumbing and wiring
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You utter tart
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 07:34:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 05:42:25 PMAir is free performance mate lolQuote from: Jamie R on February 28, 2021, 05:09:51 PMFlat floor ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 04:43:13 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210228/56d3674fab255cc9578150d9f7b2815a.jpg)
Snow it's up in the air them sides and front bits look epic fair play
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Gotta start pulling all this off soon so I can do plumbing and wiring
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You utter tart
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I don't have huge hp, and a lightish car, If it's gonna be quick it will have to be on the bends not the straights
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 10:16:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 10:16:05 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 28, 2021, 04:43:13 PMFu****** Hellas .......
Snow it's up in the air them sides and front bits look epic fair play
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I do really like them sides and front bits
Sorry for the bilingual wordings lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 01, 2021, 11:56:23 AM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2021, 11:56:23 AM
Excellent, so much progress, what a fantastic looking car :great:
One thing though. I would love to do this underside to the Race car to get more downforce but can't.
We had a guy with an RX-7 with so many temperature sensors he probably knew the temperature of his ear wax!
As soon as he tested the car, the gearbox and diff were frying and like my car had to open up the transmission tunnel like my car to get air flow around these components, he even found the engine bay temps were high because air could not escape down the tunnel.
As its essentially a road car, not saying you will suffer from the above as badly but its maybe worth taking on board
One thing though. I would love to do this underside to the Race car to get more downforce but can't.
We had a guy with an RX-7 with so many temperature sensors he probably knew the temperature of his ear wax!
As soon as he tested the car, the gearbox and diff were frying and like my car had to open up the transmission tunnel like my car to get air flow around these components, he even found the engine bay temps were high because air could not escape down the tunnel.
As its essentially a road car, not saying you will suffer from the above as badly but its maybe worth taking on board
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
Duly noted chief.
One of the reasons for pulling the floor off is to fit some strategically placed naca ducts to cool engine sump, and one for gearbox.
More for the exhaust tunnel too. I have one peering at the diff for the same reason.
The plan was to fit vents, it's just a matter of time to do it with that much on with this project.
But yeah
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One of the reasons for pulling the floor off is to fit some strategically placed naca ducts to cool engine sump, and one for gearbox.
More for the exhaust tunnel too. I have one peering at the diff for the same reason.
The plan was to fit vents, it's just a matter of time to do it with that much on with this project.
But yeah
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2021, 08:13:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2021, 08:13:29 PM
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So with a threaded boss from Franklin performance in New Zealand, a 38mm to 32mm stainless reducer, some turned down stainless bar for a breather, a water jet cut flange, some bends and some plate cut n shaped. A bit of welding, lots of swearing. Some coffee..... I have a new oil filler pipe.
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So with a threaded boss from Franklin performance in New Zealand, a 38mm to 32mm stainless reducer, some turned down stainless bar for a breather, a water jet cut flange, some bends and some plate cut n shaped. A bit of welding, lots of swearing. Some coffee..... I have a new oil filler pipe.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2021, 08:15:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2021, 08:15:06 PM
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Now I can tip oil all over my fuel pressure gauge instead of the alternator like I do in my 8 lol
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Now I can tip oil all over my fuel pressure gauge instead of the alternator like I do in my 8 lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 02, 2021, 08:41:33 PM
Post by: Casey on March 02, 2021, 08:41:33 PM
Perfect position to catch the oil drips ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 05, 2021, 07:09:16 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 05, 2021, 07:09:16 PM
Is it me or is this like Jamie before Rotus?? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/faee55f1c135af9433980e24ef371505.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 04:43:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 04:43:04 AM
Lol not guilty!
I've not been that skinny for a while,
Although they do mention donuts on the front cover ! Now ya talking
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I've not been that skinny for a while,
Although they do mention donuts on the front cover ! Now ya talking
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 01:31:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 01:31:08 PM
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Seems like decades when it looked like that .....
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Seems like decades when it looked like that .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 06, 2021, 01:51:54 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 06, 2021, 01:51:54 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 01:31:08 PMWow
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Seems like decades when it looked like that .....
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That's different
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 06, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 06, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
Wow ! Not sure I could have brought myself to strip it back and start again..... (I'm ignoring a lack of skill etc on my part here )
How far she's come and certainly lost the cutesy look
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)How far she's come and certainly lost the cutesy look
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
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A break from wiring !
See what I can conjure up now
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A break from wiring !
See what I can conjure up now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 05:47:00 PMI assume your making one
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A break from wiring !
See what I can conjure up now
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Can't wait to see it
The newer ones came with sort of baffles in the sump
No doubt if your using a baffle plate the wouldn't do no job anyways
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 07:35:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 07:35:45 PM
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Could someone please confirm what this is?
This is a shot with the sump off.
Manual says plug, then the diagram shows a spring behind it and then a control valve.
My suspicions are it's something to do with the oil cooler lines but it's not clear
Thanks
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Could someone please confirm what this is?
This is a shot with the sump off.
Manual says plug, then the diagram shows a spring behind it and then a control valve.
My suspicions are it's something to do with the oil cooler lines but it's not clear
Thanks
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 10, 2021, 07:48:51 PM
Post by: Casey on March 10, 2021, 07:48:51 PM
Oil pressure regulator. Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GhQCBcRd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GhQCBcRd0
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 07:53:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 07:53:08 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 07:19:18 PMSorry Wayne I didn't get a notification for this post.Quote from: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 05:47:00 PMI assume your making one
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A break from wiring !
See what I can conjure up now
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Can't wait to see it
The newer ones came with sort of baffles in the sump
No doubt if your using a baffle plate the wouldn't do no job anyways
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Yeah I'm gonna have a bash at making one. I reckon I could make one cheaper than $425 plus shipping from USA
Gonna try and replicate the big wing version that Jon had on his Westfield but with a few tweaks. I need to drain the oil catch tank back into sump in case it does burp It will just seep back into the sump.
Will have a gated baffle inside
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 08:03:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 10, 2021, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 10, 2021, 07:48:51 PMThanks Malcolm.
Oil pressure regulator. Have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GhQCBcRd0
Just wondered as there is very little clearance between the relief valve and the sump
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It sits about there so must be about 5mm gap at best.
I'm assuming when the oil pressure gets too high it will just drain back into sump
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 10, 2021, 09:38:36 PM
Post by: clive on March 10, 2021, 09:38:36 PM
Here we go/
Not an RX-8 but the engine block oil flow diagram is the same less the turbo.
No 1 is a pressure relief valve with a spring and plunger behind. No 2 is the actual pressure regulator which Malcolm indicated.
For the sump you really don't need anything different, you just need a reducer under your new filler neck to stop the oil washing up and getting into the intake etc.
Hope this helps
Not an RX-8 but the engine block oil flow diagram is the same less the turbo.
No 1 is a pressure relief valve with a spring and plunger behind. No 2 is the actual pressure regulator which Malcolm indicated.
For the sump you really don't need anything different, you just need a reducer under your new filler neck to stop the oil washing up and getting into the intake etc.
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:43:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:43:04 AM
Quote from: clive on March 10, 2021, 09:38:36 PMThanks for clarifying Clive.
Here we go/
Not an RX-8 but the engine block oil flow diagram is the same less the turbo.
No 1 is a pressure relief valve with a spring and plunger behind. No 2 is the actual pressure regulator which Malcolm indicated.
For the sump you really don't need anything different, you just need a reducer under your new filler neck to stop the oil washing up and getting into the intake etc.
Hope this helps
Unfortunately I'm a bit further down the road and already have the burpy oil catch tank.
I don't mind so much making a new sump. The old one is a bit tatty.
I'd sooner be welding up a new sump than blasted wiring lolll... head fried recently. I'm currently pestering the Wiltshire electron witch doctor every 5 mins of the day for support.
The bill is running up lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2021, 06:19:51 AM
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2021, 06:19:51 AM
Yes, thats pressure release valve. You need some clearence around it.
If you are considering to use baffle plate, check out some reference pics from google to see how people layed out those holes.
For me, I made one for my engine for few reasons. Using 6 mm steel plate, it (hopefully) makes engine block more stronger when engine wants to warp
It also creates some extra oil volume to sump. However, im still using stock lengt pick up.
But if you want to do completely new sump, its a different story. Rennys sump is quite good compared to older models tho
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If you are considering to use baffle plate, check out some reference pics from google to see how people layed out those holes.
For me, I made one for my engine for few reasons. Using 6 mm steel plate, it (hopefully) makes engine block more stronger when engine wants to warp
It also creates some extra oil volume to sump. However, im still using stock lengt pick up.
But if you want to do completely new sump, its a different story. Rennys sump is quite good compared to older models tho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 11:27:43 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 11:27:43 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 11, 2021, 06:19:51 AMI've had a bit of an oil leak on my 8 , been there a while
Yes, thats pressure release valve. You need some clearence around it.
If you are considering to use baffle plate, check out some reference pics from google to see how people layed out those holes.
For me, I made one for my engine for few reasons. Using 6 mm steel plate, it (hopefully) makes engine block more stronger when engine wants to warp
It also creates some extra oil volume to sump. However, im still using stock lengt pick up.
But if you want to do completely new sump, its a different story. Rennys sump is quite good compared to older models tho
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Took it apart last night to have a look
Seems the baffle plate I bought , the hole was in the wrong place at the front , this was effectively stopping the baffle plate and sump sealing together when bolts were tightened
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I have since modified the hole so it fits
Hope that helps Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2021, 11:49:41 AM
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2021, 11:49:41 AM
Yes, that is obvious problem. And another obvious is that regulator is directed straight into seals (basically outwards). So you should direct that oil squirt from regulator towards middle of the pan. And under that, big hole to baffle plate.
Also dont forget dipstick hole
Some used OEM gasket seal to seal oil pan. I didnt because of baffle plate. Good tip to get good seal between basically three surfases, is that when you aply sealant glue/mass (or whateva), do not tighten those bolts. Let it set about half an hour, and then torque it
Hope these help too
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Also dont forget dipstick hole
Some used OEM gasket seal to seal oil pan. I didnt because of baffle plate. Good tip to get good seal between basically three surfases, is that when you aply sealant glue/mass (or whateva), do not tighten those bolts. Let it set about half an hour, and then torque it
Hope these help too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 11:56:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 11:56:51 AM
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I'm building a variant of this which worked well on jons car
There's no plate that covers the entirety
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I'm building a variant of this which worked well on jons car
There's no plate that covers the entirety
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:29:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:29:29 PM
Christ!
Flat out at work today !
Flat out at work today !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:40:55 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:40:55 PM
Looks good
I have the right job to help you along with your projects
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:57:12 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:40:55 PM
Looks good
You have the right job to help you along with your projects
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:57:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 11, 2021, 02:40:55 PM???
Looks good
I have the right job to help you along with your projects
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Go on ...... I'm all ears
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:22:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:22:44 PM
Oh I have the right job.
Lol yeah it helps.
The perks are worth a lot to me. And being 10 mins down the road.
My days of travelling the country doing technical sales are long gone.
Miss the company car, but the money instead pays for go faster rotus parts lol
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Lol yeah it helps.
The perks are worth a lot to me. And being 10 mins down the road.
My days of travelling the country doing technical sales are long gone.
Miss the company car, but the money instead pays for go faster rotus parts lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 12, 2021, 07:23:04 AM
Post by: re japi on March 12, 2021, 07:23:04 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 11:56:51 AMOh, ok
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210311/220e2fd5b8a5c3f637a75a84465f6b0c.jpg)
I'm building a variant of this which worked well on jons car
There's no plate that covers the entirety
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
Wires wires wires wires !
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:18:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:18:26 PM
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Heater controls going in bloody archaic levers
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Heater controls going in bloody archaic levers
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:19:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:19:32 PM
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Designed a bezel to go over the top which I'll get 3D printed
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Designed a bezel to go over the top which I'll get 3D printed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:20:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:20:35 PM
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Because if truth be told,
I didn't like the price of this plastic !
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Because if truth be told,
I didn't like the price of this plastic !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 03:20:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 03:20:43 PM
Heater controls? Pah, window up window down, jumper on jumper off is enough to control temperature
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 03:23:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 03:20:43 PMLol more for demisting haha.
Heater controls? Pah, window up window down, jumper on jumper off is enough to control temperature
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My windows won't budge, I'm going with polycarbonate and you can't get manual winders for the plus 2 Elan
Stock electric windows is 1970s tech and weighs loads
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2021, 05:09:45 PM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2021, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PMHot tub time machine turbo encabulator...yes i can clearly see the dingle arm.
Wires wires wires wires !
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2021, 05:39:27 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2021, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
Wires wires wires wires !
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
:eek: wow, I'm very impressed! Is that your handiwork???
I recognise an Arduino controller of some sort and other modules. Only just started to play with an Arduino controller last year. Part way through designing a wireless central heating controller.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 06:49:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 13, 2021, 05:39:27 PMLet's make one thing clear lolQuote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
Wires wires wires wires !
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
:eek: wow, I'm very impressed! Is that your handiwork???
I recognise an Arduino controller of some sort and other modules. Only just started to play with an Arduino controller last year. Part way through designing a wireless central heating controller.
This definitely isn't me.
My mate Richard is a techy freak and used to be our old IT manager
I got him on board
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 06:49:48 PMLolQuote from: Casey on March 13, 2021, 05:39:27 PMLet's make one thing clear lolQuote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 02:15:32 PM
Wires wires wires wires !
I love electrics !
Glad there are some helpful peeps in this world.
So a clue to the next masterpiece puzzle part of this rotus jigsaw.
This is a concept test bed which will be tested in the car tomorrow.
Jon you cant let the cat out the bag what it is, but i applaud you for your help n support, we still got a long way to go yet.
:eek: wow, I'm very impressed! Is that your handiwork???
I recognise an Arduino controller of some sort and other modules. Only just started to play with an Arduino controller last year. Part way through designing a wireless central heating controller.
This definitely isn't me.
My mate Richard is a techy freak and used to be our old IT manager
I got him on board
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The bread board !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2021, 08:46:27 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2021, 08:46:27 PM
Ha-ha, I didn't think it was you breadboarding ;) seriously impressed if it was :icon_thumleft:
Arduino controllers are really cheap and powerful little toys.
Arduino controllers are really cheap and powerful little toys.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 08:53:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 08:53:45 AM
Quote from: Casey on March 13, 2021, 08:46:27 PMNope not touched a breadboard since college
Ha-ha, I didn't think it was you breadboarding ;) seriously impressed if it was :icon_thumleft:
Arduino controllers are really cheap and powerful little toys.
Madness !!!
But just in case you thought my grp days were over .....
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Back on it this morning
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Hahahaha
after malcolm poked me at my electronic knowledge. I just found my old college memory stick.
My control technology assignment. I dont even remember typing this out let alone remembering the content hahahaha
after malcolm poked me at my electronic knowledge. I just found my old college memory stick.
My control technology assignment. I dont even remember typing this out let alone remembering the content hahahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 14, 2021, 12:08:08 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 14, 2021, 12:08:08 PM
Not just any heater controls, CORTINA heater comtrols! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2021, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 13, 2021, 08:46:27 PMApparently the ESP32 is a better option.... 8 times more powerful than an arduino and only $7 each
Ha-ha, I didn't think it was you breadboarding ;) seriously impressed if it was :icon_thumleft:
Arduino controllers are really cheap and powerful little toys.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2021, 07:54:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 16, 2021, 07:54:48 PM
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More vents going in to cool the sump n gearbox
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More vents going in to cool the sump n gearbox
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 16, 2021, 08:50:20 PM
Post by: Casey on March 16, 2021, 08:50:20 PM
More fibreglassing :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 16, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 16, 2021, 09:28:47 PM
He can't help himself
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2021, 06:07:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2021, 06:07:22 PM
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First bit of the sump almost fits
3 holes to fettle
Not bad considering I photocopied the old sump and drew over the picture...... in two halves, and tried to join the photos.
Boss wasn't happy I got oil over the glass.
I tried to explain it stops it going rusty but hey ho
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First bit of the sump almost fits
3 holes to fettle
Not bad considering I photocopied the old sump and drew over the picture...... in two halves, and tried to join the photos.
Boss wasn't happy I got oil over the glass.
I tried to explain it stops it going rusty but hey ho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:50:11 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:50:11 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:50:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:50:30 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
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Progress !
Gates to fit and it's done
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Progress !
Gates to fit and it's done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 26, 2021, 12:45:47 PM
Post by: Casey on March 26, 2021, 12:45:47 PM
:sign0098: more excellent progress Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 26, 2021, 06:11:54 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 26, 2021, 06:11:54 PM
Good job
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2021, 06:24:04 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2021, 06:24:04 AM
I like it, good job mate!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Yep great copy lol.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 06:35:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 06:35:48 AM
Lol I should be Chinese yeah? Take a design and copy it with tweaks.
I'm currently on 115 quid in materials and 4 hours work.
Not that I count my time as it's a hobby
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Not that I count my time as it's a hobby
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 06:37:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 06:37:03 AM
It fits nice too around the chassis etc
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2021, 06:44:44 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2021, 06:44:44 AM
Yep spot on. Jamies wuhan sump.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AM
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Be gone
Crappy gates
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Crappy gates
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Sprint13B on March 28, 2021, 01:59:30 PM
Post by: Sprint13B on March 28, 2021, 01:59:30 PM
Love this project.
Watching and waiting for the wiring to be done.
Do you know what ECU you will be using.
Watching and waiting for the wiring to be done.
Do you know what ECU you will be using.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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Be gone
Crappy gates
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PMGate hit the pick up pipe, started from scratchQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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Be gone
Crappy gates
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Tig it up this afternoon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
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Love this project.
Watching and waiting for the wiring to be done.
Do you know what ECU you will be using.
Done the ecu to engine loom.
Just working on the engine bay loom in the pic
Stock ecu, it's quite clever by all accounts
Got a fella making a circuit board for me that will display the Speedo using 1x omron sensor mounted to an adaptor off one wheel that's completely stand alone as I don't have abs/dsc.
It will also accept gps unit as a back up although the tests we have done, it's accurate as a constant speed but struggles to keep up with accuracy on hard acceleration and braking.
We can also fit a sim card and have gprs and find out where the car is if it gets stolen
My mate was also trying to get me to fit load cells where the shock absorbers mount to the body so we could understand corner weights and use the gps to find out loading on any corner on any track.
But I thought .... don't see the benefit.
Keep it simple
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:26:43 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PMThe plastic one from the engine ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PMGate hit the pick up pipe, started from scratchQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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Be gone
Crappy gates
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Tig it up this afternoon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:28:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:26:43 PMNooooo hinges as gatesQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PMThe plastic one from the engine ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PMGate hit the pick up pipe, started from scratchQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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Crappy gates
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Tig it up this afternoon
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This back wall was too far forward on the first one by 2mm and hit where the oil pick up bolts to the underside
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:30:07 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:28:18 PMGotchaQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:26:43 PMNooooo hinges as gatesQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PMThe plastic one from the engine ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PMGate hit the pick up pipe, started from scratchQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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Crappy gates
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This back wall was too far forward on the first one by 2mm and hit where the oil pick up bolts to the underside
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:35:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:30:07 PMSorry Wayne my mistakeQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:28:18 PMGotchaQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:26:43 PMNooooo hinges as gatesQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 02:18:36 PMThe plastic one from the engine ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 02:06:18 PMGate hit the pick up pipe, started from scratchQuote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AMWhat's happened ?
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This back wall was too far forward on the first one by 2mm and hit where the oil pick up bolts to the underside
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:15:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:15:04 PM
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It fits now
While the bolts look unsightly they help in many ways.
The bottom ones plug up the holes and act as a counterbalance for ensuring the always close.
And bolting them on to the sump work out better as welding them on causes distortion as they curve from contraction then the hinge pin starts to bind .
All in all happy with that. Less than 120 quid in materials
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It fits now
While the bolts look unsightly they help in many ways.
The bottom ones plug up the holes and act as a counterbalance for ensuring the always close.
And bolting them on to the sump work out better as welding them on causes distortion as they curve from contraction then the hinge pin starts to bind .
All in all happy with that. Less than 120 quid in materials
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2021, 07:37:34 PM
Spot on mate and with the catch tank drain dont think any oil starvation or burps.. i take 1 for an fd please
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:48:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:48:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 28, 2021, 07:37:34 PMLol lemme test this one out at Combe and yeah I'd make you one.
Spot on mate
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The rx8 performance one is made from 6mm thick aluminium.
I chose 3mm stainless for the flange and base and 2mm on the sides.
I read on t'internet that custom sheet aluminium welded sumps can go soft from the heat of the oil. Which I guess is fine on a piston engine and the block can keep it all in check.
But I guess with a rotary and all the sandwich of parts to make the engine, a soft aluminium sump won't help in stopping the torsional twist. I guess only a problem on boosted high hp motors, which I don't have, but no problem in adopting the same principles.
The stock sump is 1.2mm so this thing is a bit weighty in comparison. But the weight is as low down as can be so I'm not too concerned.
Being 3mm flange I'm hoping it will serve the same purpose as these sump braces you can get to stop leakage on flimsy stock sump flanges.
Just my take on it all ... who knows. lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 08:49:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 28, 2021, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:48:05 PMSounds like just the jobQuote from: boosted on March 28, 2021, 07:37:34 PMLol lemme test this one out at Combe and yeah I'd make you one.
Spot on mate
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The rx8 performance one is made from 6mm thick aluminium.
I chose 3mm stainless for the flange and base and 2mm on the sides.
I read on t'internet that custom sheet aluminium welded sumps can go soft from the heat of the oil. Which I guess is fine on a piston engine and the block can keep it all in check.
But I guess with a rotary and all the sandwich of parts to make the engine, a soft aluminium sump won't help in stopping the torsional twist. I guess only a problem on boosted high hp motors, which I don't have, but no problem in adopting the same principles.
The stock sump is 1.2mm so this thing is a bit weighty in comparison. But the weight is as low down as can be so I'm not too concerned.
Being 3mm flange I'm hoping it will serve the same purpose as these sump braces you can get to stop leakage on flimsy stock sump flanges.
Just my take on it all ... who knows. lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2021, 11:29:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2021, 11:29:59 PM
Flange, leakage, flanges.... Sump good too, but not as good as a flange
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 29, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 29, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
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Done
Clearance on the chassis and engine mount
Next job.......
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Done
Clearance on the chassis and engine mount
Next job.......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Sprint13B on March 30, 2021, 07:26:50 AM
Post by: Sprint13B on March 30, 2021, 07:26:50 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2021, 07:48:05 PMQuote from: boosted on March 28, 2021, 07:37:34 PMLol lemme test this one out at Combe and yeah I'd make you one.
Spot on mate
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The rx8 performance one is made from 6mm thick aluminium.
I chose 3mm stainless for the flange and base and 2mm on the sides.
I read on t'internet that custom sheet aluminium welded sumps can go soft from the heat of the oil. Which I guess is fine on a piston engine and the block can keep it all in check.
But I guess with a rotary and all the sandwich of parts to make the engine, a soft aluminium sump won't help in stopping the torsional twist. I guess only a problem on boosted high hp motors, which I don't have, but no problem in adopting the same principles.
The stock sump is 1.2mm so this thing is a bit weighty in comparison. But the weight is as low down as can be so I'm not too concerned.
Being 3mm flange I'm hoping it will serve the same purpose as these sump braces you can get to stop leakage on flimsy stock sump flanges.
Just my take on it all ... who knows. lol
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From what I've gathered about Hi Powered Rotarys.
Virtually all the torsional twist is eliminated by using thicker studs and ARP nuts with solid dowels.
Note a external oil supply is needed for a full solid dowel kit.
There plenty of videos from the Rotary Gurus.
https://youtu.be/RhE3alGMAwA
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
Afternoon all, not posted for a while, just thought id update you all and say hi.
Been inundated with wiring and all things canbus related.
Been doing lots of testing as well with GPS speedos.
Bottom line is, the system we built is very accurate at a constant speed, but lags badly on hard acceleration and braking..... to the tune that with the stock speedo in its usual place, a bread board with the GPS unit and aerial, a ESP32 micro processor and all the other gubbins in the passenger foot well and a spare RX8 speedo linked in and sat on the passenger seat, we found some errors.
Left the lights like a scalded cat...... 42mph on my speedo, look across and the spare one says 4mph !!! Car in front coming up, brake hard, down to 25mph.... and the spare one is still climbing up to 42...... hmmmmm
TomTom ( other sat nav systems are available) must have really really fast processors or have a fleet of their own satellites. hahaha
The program in the processor asks for a reading every second, so at slow speeds its hard to determine how much distance has been travelled within a second, when compared to say 70mph on the motorway (officer.) Where a greater distance is travelled within the same time.
So a delay in the info coming from the GPS, to the micro processor, convert it to Canbus language, and spit it out on the binnacle.
Then you need a minimum of 3 satellites or you cant get triangulation on your location, then you drive through a tunnel , not that there are many of those round by me........ but this isnt working out.
So back to sensors, but not stock ones. Weve acquired an Omron sensor which is a device just 5mm in diameter. So I needed to make an adapter, for the stock sensor location and set the face 0.85mm away as per the original.
We have tested this and got some amazingly accurate results, mainly down to the program in the background. which takes the pulses, runs it through some signal conditioning device, (Ive no idea what its actually called), but it neatens up the square wave created by the teeth going past the sensor, converts the info to canbus jibberish and spits the speed on the binnacle.
So in theory, it all works..... 1 x sensor, not 4 as per the stock set up.
Needless to say, I dont have the stock sensors anymore, nor the ABS/DSC system that they ran through. So we have no way of talking to the stock ECU.
So then comes the difficult bit, we need to find a way of shouting messages down the existing canbus, and Im not going to pretend I know what Im talking about here becuase I dont and the likes of Jon and Malcolm would see right through it anyway.
But from what we can work out, the wheel sensor info is part of a "201" code, and i think the total code is 8 characters long. The rest of the code that gets sent to the binnacle is rpm, and so we are thinking of running 2 x canbus. The original canbus will have some data from rpm, which I assume will come from the eccentric shaft trigger sensor; and we will send that data to the second canbus and the programe will merge that data with the data from the wheel sensor to create the 8 character code and send that to the binnacle. Sounds simple, well I dont have to write that program thankfully !!!!
Jon recently pointed out ( after I showed him a vid of our test hub, rigged up to an electric drill on the end of a modified driveshaft ......that the odometer didnt go up.
We recently found that the odometer is a "420" code, and we need to run some more tests from my current RX8 and understand what's being shouted down the canbus and replicate that info.
We have ran a small test and can get the odometer to increase, but we dont know what values within the code relate to how many increments the odometer goes up and the frequency involved.
God Mazda, just stick a speedo cable on the back of the gearbox hahahaha.
We're getting there and Id like to say im missing fibreglass........ but im not!
Been inundated with wiring and all things canbus related.
Been doing lots of testing as well with GPS speedos.
Bottom line is, the system we built is very accurate at a constant speed, but lags badly on hard acceleration and braking..... to the tune that with the stock speedo in its usual place, a bread board with the GPS unit and aerial, a ESP32 micro processor and all the other gubbins in the passenger foot well and a spare RX8 speedo linked in and sat on the passenger seat, we found some errors.
Left the lights like a scalded cat...... 42mph on my speedo, look across and the spare one says 4mph !!! Car in front coming up, brake hard, down to 25mph.... and the spare one is still climbing up to 42...... hmmmmm
TomTom ( other sat nav systems are available) must have really really fast processors or have a fleet of their own satellites. hahaha
The program in the processor asks for a reading every second, so at slow speeds its hard to determine how much distance has been travelled within a second, when compared to say 70mph on the motorway (officer.) Where a greater distance is travelled within the same time.
So a delay in the info coming from the GPS, to the micro processor, convert it to Canbus language, and spit it out on the binnacle.
Then you need a minimum of 3 satellites or you cant get triangulation on your location, then you drive through a tunnel , not that there are many of those round by me........ but this isnt working out.
So back to sensors, but not stock ones. Weve acquired an Omron sensor which is a device just 5mm in diameter. So I needed to make an adapter, for the stock sensor location and set the face 0.85mm away as per the original.
We have tested this and got some amazingly accurate results, mainly down to the program in the background. which takes the pulses, runs it through some signal conditioning device, (Ive no idea what its actually called), but it neatens up the square wave created by the teeth going past the sensor, converts the info to canbus jibberish and spits the speed on the binnacle.
So in theory, it all works..... 1 x sensor, not 4 as per the stock set up.
Needless to say, I dont have the stock sensors anymore, nor the ABS/DSC system that they ran through. So we have no way of talking to the stock ECU.
So then comes the difficult bit, we need to find a way of shouting messages down the existing canbus, and Im not going to pretend I know what Im talking about here becuase I dont and the likes of Jon and Malcolm would see right through it anyway.
But from what we can work out, the wheel sensor info is part of a "201" code, and i think the total code is 8 characters long. The rest of the code that gets sent to the binnacle is rpm, and so we are thinking of running 2 x canbus. The original canbus will have some data from rpm, which I assume will come from the eccentric shaft trigger sensor; and we will send that data to the second canbus and the programe will merge that data with the data from the wheel sensor to create the 8 character code and send that to the binnacle. Sounds simple, well I dont have to write that program thankfully !!!!
Jon recently pointed out ( after I showed him a vid of our test hub, rigged up to an electric drill on the end of a modified driveshaft ......that the odometer didnt go up.
We recently found that the odometer is a "420" code, and we need to run some more tests from my current RX8 and understand what's being shouted down the canbus and replicate that info.
We have ran a small test and can get the odometer to increase, but we dont know what values within the code relate to how many increments the odometer goes up and the frequency involved.
God Mazda, just stick a speedo cable on the back of the gearbox hahahaha.
We're getting there and Id like to say im missing fibreglass........ but im not!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 06, 2021, 06:43:08 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 06, 2021, 06:43:08 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 06, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
The original canbus will have some data from rpm, which I assume will come from the eccentric shaft trigger sensor;
Thanks for the enjoyable long read! Found the part about eccentric shaft trigger sensors particularly intriguing. You might not want to mess with those! :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2021, 01:26:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2021, 01:26:08 PM
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New goodies, colour matched to the proposed paint colour.
No maroon Jon!
Cheers captain Clive !
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New goodies, colour matched to the proposed paint colour.
No maroon Jon!
Cheers captain Clive !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
Jon will be so disappointed ;) ;D
Are they made of fibreglass though? ;)
Are they made of fibreglass though? ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
Thankfully not malcolm lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 01:02:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 01:02:44 PM
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A lightweight car calls for a lightweight loom.
I didn't like any of these colours !!!
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A lightweight car calls for a lightweight loom.
I didn't like any of these colours !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 10, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
Post by: Casey on April 10, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
It would be cheaper and easier to bulk buy black cable and use that for everything - much prettier too :icon_thumleft:
.... rewiring half done.......
........now was that black lead a +ve or -ve lead?
......big flash and Jamie's beard has a quick singe and trim ;)
.... rewiring half done.......
........now was that black lead a +ve or -ve lead?
......big flash and Jamie's beard has a quick singe and trim ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 05:58:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 10, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
It would be cheaper and easier to bulk buy black cable and use that for everything - much prettier too :icon_thumleft:
.... rewiring half done.......
........now was that black lead a +ve or -ve lead?
......big flash and Jamie's beard has a quick singe and trim ;)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 06:01:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 10, 2021, 05:58:54 PMQuote from: Casey on April 10, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
It would be cheaper and easier to bulk buy black cable and use that for everything - much prettier too :icon_thumleft:
.... rewiring half done.......
........now was that black lead a +ve or -ve lead?
......big flash and Jamie's beard has a quick singe and trim ;)
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Sounds like Mazda great idea of 20 odd purple wires all for the rear lights
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 09:48:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 09:48:48 AM
Good Morning all, very productive weekend in terms of Rotus development.
Firstly pulled one of the original stock sensors out the offside rear hub and fitted the Jamie counterpart. This obviously threw a warning light but the car drove absolutely fine regardless. (First pic)
Armed with a nutty professor and his oscilloscope we set about measuring the peaks and troughs of the toothed wheel on the drive shaft, which show up on the scope as a square wave. We took recordings of frequencies at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 mph and then a bit more, all on a closed non public highway ahem.
Compared all the data from the scope to the spreadsheet ( next pic) and the sensor is spot on! Nice square waves too, that still blows my mind.
Next was to hook up the Jamie sensor to a laptop and run a spare RX8 speedo and see if the real speedo matches the spare one..... Problem!
The spare speedo was half the speed of the real speedo -1 mph so 60mph in real life registered as 29. Hmmmmm.... back to base.
I wanted to make sure the corresponding tyre to the sensor was actually of the right circumference to our program data.
Some data shows 225/45/R18 as 2042mm circumference, some show 2072mm circumference. So I physically measured my part worn, they come out at 2064mm
An hour later of coding in the program and working crap out mathematically and were back out.......... so we found an error in the program which was halving the speed, fixed! and the -1 mph differential was the circumference of the tyre discrepancy.
The nutty professor is building in a function where by if I park my car near the WiFi in the house with the ignition on, I can fine tune the calibration by altering the circumference of the tyre ... from my phone !!! and it will make the speedo accurate. Handy when I could be swapping between 18" RX8 alloys and 17" steels depending on tyre choice etc.
We also found a noticeable lag in the spare speedo in comparison to the real speedo, so when I shout to Rich 40mph! his speedo reads 40mph 1 second later........... back home.
A quick alteration in the program where the counter calls for a reading every 0.5secs instead of every 1 sec, back out.... its very much improved, but at a later date we will change that again to call for readings every 0.25 secs. So imagine the RX8 stock set up with 4 x wheel sensors, each calling for readings every second but staggered 0.25 secs after one another, the one sensor will be running as the same accuracy as the stock set up.
Next test, another electronic wizardry box of tricks plugged into my OBD2 port, a pootle round and we record all the data sent down the canbus..... why? well its simple, the time Richard and I can meet up is limited, so he can take the data run it on his laptop and plug in the spare binnacle / speedo on his desk at home and get the tacho and warning lights and speedo and replicate the exact journey in terms of what the binnacle was doing on that drive. Handy if you want to alter the program and test it without being in the car.
Last test, box of tricks plugged into OBD2 port, and spare binnacle plugged in. The box of tricks has several functions, one called "bridge" so when we drive along, every bit of data displayed on the real binnacle, is mimicked on the spare binnacle at exactly the same time.
Next one called 201 Modify, so you may remember from a previous post, "201" codes are 8 characters long and consist of data for the speedo and the tacho. So rich put a random number of 63mph into the program, so when we drive around in the same situation as the bridge test, everything is the same except for the speedo which will be 63mph ahead of the real speedo.
This is a very important and significant result as it means we can "split" the 201 codes. So when the Rotus is finished the binnacle can display all the data from the original Canbus, and out box of tricks can fill in the data on the 201 code from the mph generated by the Jamie wheel sensor.
So now youve digested all that crap, what does it mean. Well I guess if you have an RX8 or a derivative in my case, and want to bin the stock braking system and run a bias pedal box or whatever and want to run the stock speedo.... well it can be done :13:
Firstly pulled one of the original stock sensors out the offside rear hub and fitted the Jamie counterpart. This obviously threw a warning light but the car drove absolutely fine regardless. (First pic)
Armed with a nutty professor and his oscilloscope we set about measuring the peaks and troughs of the toothed wheel on the drive shaft, which show up on the scope as a square wave. We took recordings of frequencies at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 mph and then a bit more, all on a closed non public highway ahem.
Compared all the data from the scope to the spreadsheet ( next pic) and the sensor is spot on! Nice square waves too, that still blows my mind.
Next was to hook up the Jamie sensor to a laptop and run a spare RX8 speedo and see if the real speedo matches the spare one..... Problem!
The spare speedo was half the speed of the real speedo -1 mph so 60mph in real life registered as 29. Hmmmmm.... back to base.
I wanted to make sure the corresponding tyre to the sensor was actually of the right circumference to our program data.
Some data shows 225/45/R18 as 2042mm circumference, some show 2072mm circumference. So I physically measured my part worn, they come out at 2064mm
An hour later of coding in the program and working crap out mathematically and were back out.......... so we found an error in the program which was halving the speed, fixed! and the -1 mph differential was the circumference of the tyre discrepancy.
The nutty professor is building in a function where by if I park my car near the WiFi in the house with the ignition on, I can fine tune the calibration by altering the circumference of the tyre ... from my phone !!! and it will make the speedo accurate. Handy when I could be swapping between 18" RX8 alloys and 17" steels depending on tyre choice etc.
We also found a noticeable lag in the spare speedo in comparison to the real speedo, so when I shout to Rich 40mph! his speedo reads 40mph 1 second later........... back home.
A quick alteration in the program where the counter calls for a reading every 0.5secs instead of every 1 sec, back out.... its very much improved, but at a later date we will change that again to call for readings every 0.25 secs. So imagine the RX8 stock set up with 4 x wheel sensors, each calling for readings every second but staggered 0.25 secs after one another, the one sensor will be running as the same accuracy as the stock set up.
Next test, another electronic wizardry box of tricks plugged into my OBD2 port, a pootle round and we record all the data sent down the canbus..... why? well its simple, the time Richard and I can meet up is limited, so he can take the data run it on his laptop and plug in the spare binnacle / speedo on his desk at home and get the tacho and warning lights and speedo and replicate the exact journey in terms of what the binnacle was doing on that drive. Handy if you want to alter the program and test it without being in the car.
Last test, box of tricks plugged into OBD2 port, and spare binnacle plugged in. The box of tricks has several functions, one called "bridge" so when we drive along, every bit of data displayed on the real binnacle, is mimicked on the spare binnacle at exactly the same time.
Next one called 201 Modify, so you may remember from a previous post, "201" codes are 8 characters long and consist of data for the speedo and the tacho. So rich put a random number of 63mph into the program, so when we drive around in the same situation as the bridge test, everything is the same except for the speedo which will be 63mph ahead of the real speedo.
This is a very important and significant result as it means we can "split" the 201 codes. So when the Rotus is finished the binnacle can display all the data from the original Canbus, and out box of tricks can fill in the data on the 201 code from the mph generated by the Jamie wheel sensor.
So now youve digested all that crap, what does it mean. Well I guess if you have an RX8 or a derivative in my case, and want to bin the stock braking system and run a bias pedal box or whatever and want to run the stock speedo.... well it can be done :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 19, 2021, 08:52:06 PM
Post by: Casey on April 19, 2021, 08:52:06 PM
Awesome Jamie :icon_thumleft:
My head is spinning, trying to absorb all the info that latest post, but the fact you've been out and driving the Rotus is a major milestone achieved :notworthy:
My head is spinning, trying to absorb all the info that latest post, but the fact you've been out and driving the Rotus is a major milestone achieved :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 10:23:01 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 19, 2021, 08:52:06 PMNoooo you're getting confuzzled.
Awesome Jamie :icon_thumleft:
My head is spinning, trying to absorb all the info that latest post, but the fact you've been out and driving the Rotus is a major milestone achieved :notworthy:
The testing was done in the rx8 in readiness for the rotus
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 19, 2021, 10:27:51 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 19, 2021, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 10:23:01 PMStill impressive !!Quote from: Casey on April 19, 2021, 08:52:06 PMNoooo you're getting confuzzled.
Awesome Jamie :icon_thumleft:
My head is spinning, trying to absorb all the info that latest post, but the fact you've been out and driving the Rotus is a major milestone achieved :notworthy:
The testing was done in the rx8 in readiness for the rotus
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2021, 12:12:34 AM
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2021, 12:12:34 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 10:23:01 PMQuote from: Casey on April 19, 2021, 08:52:06 PMNoooo you're getting confuzzled.
Awesome Jamie :icon_thumleft:
My head is spinning, trying to absorb all the info that latest post, but the fact you've been out and driving the Rotus is a major milestone achieved :notworthy:
The testing was done in the rx8 in readiness for the rotus
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:)) :)) :)) I thought you must have been very busy! My head was clearly spinning reading your post ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Sprint13B on April 20, 2021, 08:25:23 AM
Post by: Sprint13B on April 20, 2021, 08:25:23 AM
Will you be using the full loom in Rotus with the factory immobiliser.
Does your box of wizardry control the ECU or just the speedometer side.
Does your box of wizardry control the ECU or just the speedometer side.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: Sprint13B on April 20, 2021, 08:25:23 AMThe majority of the loom with the crap like air bags, seat heaters, abs, stereo removed. Immobiliser stays.
Will you be using the full loom in Rotus with the factory immobiliser.
Does your box of wizardry control the ECU or just the speedometer side.
The box of tricks listens to the data on the canbus , when it hears a 201 code it adds in the mph values only. This makes the binnacle work.
The ecu is busy doing everything else but the mph value. Our box will run in parallel.
That's how I understand it anyway lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 20, 2021, 06:34:39 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 20, 2021, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
crap like air bags, seat heaters, abs, stereo removed.
I like the way you're thinking! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Sprint13B on April 22, 2021, 10:17:15 AM
Post by: Sprint13B on April 22, 2021, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on April 20, 2021, 06:34:39 PMQuote from: Jamie R on April 20, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
crap like air bags, seat heaters, abs, stereo removed.
I like the way you're thinking! :great:
Similar to my choice.
Air Bags. Gone
Seat heaters Keep
ABS Gone
Immobiliser Keeping.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:48:48 AM
More progress...
All tail lights working off all the relevant switches.
Fuel pump primes 2 secs on ignition.
Fuel gauges move from dead bottom on the clocks to empty along with warning light.
Horn works in a fashion soon to be fitted with Henry hoover parts!!!
Headlights function as they should along with all the indicators.
Starter wiring functions.... not turned the engine till rebuild.
Amazingly the 60s Lucas wiper motor carries all the functions asked of it from the stock RX8 wiper stalks and squirters work (stop it !!)
Cant test any of the engine electrics or the EPS until its running, but something does a cycle on the engine on shut down, dunno whether its the throttle body or the flappy jobbies in the intake....
Things to do.........
Courtesy light switches and lights
Big oil pressure warning light
Heater motor
Electric water pump and LCD screen.
Scratch built flasher module ( richards problem) but saves wiring in ballast resistors for LED winkers.
Hazard warning switch
The elusive Henry hoover parts for my clock spring horn
Richard is designing a circuit board to be printed for the speedo, having 2 made is only like £10 more for 2 so no brainer, but thats all canbus stuff.
Just wanna say big thanks to Jon for all your help on the solving of lights and wipers and generally being there on numerous video calls when im racking my brains and need to run stuff past someone.
All tail lights working off all the relevant switches.
Fuel pump primes 2 secs on ignition.
Fuel gauges move from dead bottom on the clocks to empty along with warning light.
Horn works in a fashion soon to be fitted with Henry hoover parts!!!
Headlights function as they should along with all the indicators.
Starter wiring functions.... not turned the engine till rebuild.
Amazingly the 60s Lucas wiper motor carries all the functions asked of it from the stock RX8 wiper stalks and squirters work (stop it !!)
Cant test any of the engine electrics or the EPS until its running, but something does a cycle on the engine on shut down, dunno whether its the throttle body or the flappy jobbies in the intake....
Things to do.........
Courtesy light switches and lights
Big oil pressure warning light
Heater motor
Electric water pump and LCD screen.
Scratch built flasher module ( richards problem) but saves wiring in ballast resistors for LED winkers.
Hazard warning switch
The elusive Henry hoover parts for my clock spring horn
Richard is designing a circuit board to be printed for the speedo, having 2 made is only like £10 more for 2 so no brainer, but thats all canbus stuff.
Just wanna say big thanks to Jon for all your help on the solving of lights and wipers and generally being there on numerous video calls when im racking my brains and need to run stuff past someone.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 26, 2021, 02:41:03 PM
Post by: Casey on April 26, 2021, 02:41:03 PM
That's a great chunk of items to tick off the "to do" list :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 03:22:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 03:22:20 PM
Thankfully the majority of the "work" was either lengthening or shortening wires.
Anything that had to be "changed" like the headlights and wiper motor I called upon Wiltshire Electrical Engineering Services.
Anything that had to be "changed" like the headlights and wiper motor I called upon Wiltshire Electrical Engineering Services.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
Welp
3 months have passed and the last of the switches turned up today...
I'm glad to say all wiring circuits, switches, components are finished. I'm just waiting on canbus2 module but I can't test it until the engine been rebuilt, car on the road, and can try it.
So until then, tick in the box
Fuel lines and and brake lines next
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3 months have passed and the last of the switches turned up today...
I'm glad to say all wiring circuits, switches, components are finished. I'm just waiting on canbus2 module but I can't test it until the engine been rebuilt, car on the road, and can try it.
So until then, tick in the box
Fuel lines and and brake lines next
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 06, 2021, 10:07:37 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 06, 2021, 10:07:37 PM
Good going Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2021, 11:27:35 PM
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2021, 11:27:35 PM
:sign0098: another step closer Jamie, well done :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 07, 2021, 08:00:07 AM
Post by: clive on May 07, 2021, 08:00:07 AM
Well done Jamie, what you have done is beyond me ???
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
Thanks chaps....
... If I said I did it all myself Id be lying. This is by far the biggest build I've done, certainly the most technically challenging.
People who know me well (behind the barrier of the forum and the internet) know that I keep myself to myself, I like to be able to achieve everything and it really bugs me to "ask for help".
But the best thing I've learned on this build is...... its OK to ask for help, not everyone on this planet is a complete a$$h£"e. So, work to your own strengths, and if you cant do something, ask. Im grateful there is plenty of people on here who will answer the phone or respond to a message if you have a problem. IF they may not know there answer, you can take everyones 2 pence worth to help you draw your own conclusion.
I aim to get this thing in paint by the end of the year, so Ill just keep plugging away.
... If I said I did it all myself Id be lying. This is by far the biggest build I've done, certainly the most technically challenging.
People who know me well (behind the barrier of the forum and the internet) know that I keep myself to myself, I like to be able to achieve everything and it really bugs me to "ask for help".
But the best thing I've learned on this build is...... its OK to ask for help, not everyone on this planet is a complete a$$h£"e. So, work to your own strengths, and if you cant do something, ask. Im grateful there is plenty of people on here who will answer the phone or respond to a message if you have a problem. IF they may not know there answer, you can take everyones 2 pence worth to help you draw your own conclusion.
I aim to get this thing in paint by the end of the year, so Ill just keep plugging away.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2021, 02:15:42 PM
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2021, 02:15:42 PM
Keep at it Jamie will be unique and epic when its done.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 06:01:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 06:01:38 PM
Genesis 1:3 ......
(Should be Renesis 1.3 litre)
......... and God said, "let there be light!"
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(Should be Renesis 1.3 litre)
......... and God said, "let there be light!"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 07, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 07, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
I aim to get this thing in paint by the end of the year, so Ill just keep plugging away.
Can't wait to see the result! :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:15:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 07, 2021, 06:20:34 PMMe too ! LolQuote from: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
I aim to get this thing in paint by the end of the year, so Ill just keep plugging away.
Can't wait to see the result! :notworthy:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 06:01:38 PMShouldn't that be "let it be light" ?
Genesis 1:3 ......
(Should be Renesis 1.3 litre)
......... and God said, "let there be light!"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 09:00:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 09:00:00 AM
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Well my phone connects to the Speedo via the web
Can calibrate the Speedo by entering different tyre diameters
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Well my phone connects to the Speedo via the web
Can calibrate the Speedo by entering different tyre diameters
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 12:49:18 PM
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 12:49:18 PM
Thats bonkers..he really is a very clever chap.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 12:53:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 17, 2021, 12:49:18 PMBut no denying he's an odd fellow
Thats bonkers..he really is a very clever chap.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 17, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
Post by: Casey on May 17, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
Love it :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:15:42 PM
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:15:42 PM
Im wondering if some of this tech could help Clive?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 08:21:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:15:42 PMOnly if he wants to run a Speedo ?
Im wondering if some of this tech could help Clive?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:24:59 PM
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:24:59 PM
Im thinking could help. Lets see if Clive wants it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 17, 2021, 08:35:38 PM
Post by: clive on May 17, 2021, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 08:21:36 PMQuote from: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:15:42 PMOnly if he wants to run a Speedo ?
Im wondering if some of this tech could help Clive?
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Spedo could be fun if it was seen on Camera, not sure whats involved but I do still have the rear ABS sensors tucked up under the car,
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 09:02:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: clive on May 17, 2021, 08:35:38 PMThe stock sensors may be ok but the connect to the abs unit and isn't really required.Quote from: Jamie R on May 17, 2021, 08:21:36 PMQuote from: boosted on May 17, 2021, 08:15:42 PMOnly if he wants to run a Speedo ?
Im wondering if some of this tech could help Clive?
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Spedo could be fun if it was seen on Camera, not sure whats involved but I do still have the rear ABS sensors tucked up under the car,
Mods made
1 x omron sensor (preferably mounted to the rear hubs)
Simple adaptor to mount the above.
Circuit board with all the box of tricks ( the production item is being printed)
A bit of wire And that's it
In terms of wiring into existing loom there's only 10.....
Once I've totalled up the material cost for mine I'll let you know
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 01:17:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 01:17:51 PM
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Well that's another one to the collection
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 06:06:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 06:06:30 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 01:17:51 PMIs it a good engine or tired one ?
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Well that's another one to the collection
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 06:06:30 PMOooo tiredQuote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 01:17:51 PMIs it a good engine or tired one ?
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Well that's another one to the collection
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Ready for the pp housings
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 08:14:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 06:06:30 PMIt's only a 192Quote from: Jamie R on May 30, 2021, 01:17:51 PMIs it a good engine or tired one ?
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Well that's another one to the collection
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Less port to fill up
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2021, 09:42:20 PM
Full pp inlet with side exhaust port?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2021, 05:30:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2021, 05:30:51 AM
That wasn't the intention ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2021, 08:21:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2021, 08:21:45 AM
Must be a way of successfully filling up the exhaust ports, they put men into space
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 31, 2021, 01:11:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 31, 2021, 01:11:20 PM
No point filling up exhaust ports when you can just use side plates that don't have them in the first place.
Its easier to fill the inlet ports and get the housings PPd, however how much gain there is power wise I wouldn't know, would definately be more street able and not as noisy
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Its easier to fill the inlet ports and get the housings PPd, however how much gain there is power wise I wouldn't know, would definately be more street able and not as noisy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2021, 06:17:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2021, 06:17:03 PM
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Got the 80 x 40 box section tools out
Damn 54 nut
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Got the 80 x 40 box section tools out
Damn 54 nut
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 01, 2021, 06:46:18 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 01, 2021, 06:46:18 PM
Hmmm. Do I spot a classic English washbasin in the background? With hot and cold a good foot apart? ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2021, 07:55:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 01, 2021, 07:55:31 PM
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I like how I separate the engine, leave it on the floor and still I have the tissue in the holes to stop the crap getting in lol
Those rotors look toasted
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I like how I separate the engine, leave it on the floor and still I have the tissue in the holes to stop the crap getting in lol
Those rotors look toasted
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 02, 2021, 04:47:07 AM
Post by: re japi on June 02, 2021, 04:47:07 AM
Looks like renny engines rotors usually do 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 08:19:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on June 02, 2021, 04:47:07 AMIt's soft scaly carbon comes off easy. If you saw the state of the stationary bearings you'd understand why
Looks like renny engines rotors usually do
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 02, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
Post by: re japi on June 02, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
Yeah, usually gearings bearing in plates is gone. If gearings bearing at rotors are gone, then they are useless. Also, check put that e shaft doesent have wear on them
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 12:55:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 02, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
Yeah, usually gearings bearing in plates is gone. If gearings bearing at rotors are gone, then they are useless. Also, check put that e shaft doesent have wear on them
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Yup Ill swap out the front and rear stat gears for 231 variants so I can run better bearings, the rear stat gear is completely gone along with the gear on the rotor.
Ive got another used e shaft thats in good condition, and sourced another rear rotor thats "B" weighted to match the good front rotor.
Think I need to start a new thread as this engine is going to be interesting hopefully
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 10, 2021, 09:32:48 AM
Post by: boosted on June 10, 2021, 09:32:48 AM
Happy Birthday Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
Blah ! Was keeping that on the down low !
Cheers Jon
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Cheers Jon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 10, 2021, 09:36:25 AM
Post by: boosted on June 10, 2021, 09:36:25 AM
Facebook told me with a notification
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
Fb is naughty
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 10, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
Post by: Casey on June 10, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
Happy Birthday Jamie. Have a great day!
Sorry I missed your message last week :-[ - need a catch up soon!
Sorry I missed your message last week :-[ - need a catch up soon!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 10, 2021, 10:06:03 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 10, 2021, 10:06:03 AM
Happy birthday Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 03:31:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 10, 2021, 03:31:40 PM
Thanks chaps
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 11, 2021, 05:24:29 AM
Post by: re japi on June 11, 2021, 05:24:29 AM
Even tho I allready said it allready yesterday, Ill say it again:
Congrats Mate!!!
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Congrats Mate!!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 11, 2021, 05:25:16 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 11, 2021, 05:25:16 AM
Quote from: re japi on June 11, 2021, 05:24:29 AMCheers Kaveri
Even tho I allready said it allready yesterday, Ill say it again:
Congrats Mate!!!
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And no ya can't shoot my peacocks lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 11, 2021, 05:26:46 AM
Post by: re japi on June 11, 2021, 05:26:46 AM
Ill shoot everything that comes to my lawn
So, they are you "pet" birds? Oh, I thought that they were just passing by
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So, they are you "pet" birds? Oh, I thought that they were just passing by
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2021, 05:42:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2021, 05:42:11 PM
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This new homemade bezel is very hazardous
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 12, 2021, 05:51:32 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 12, 2021, 05:51:32 PM
Wow! As they say: the >:D is in the details!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2021, 05:54:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2021, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on June 12, 2021, 05:51:32 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210612/761d807af9c1a347ece4650ca836a25a.jpg)
Wow! As they say: the >:D is in the details!
You're absolutely correct mate.
I don't think this plywood firewall is gonna stop fire though haha
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:27:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:27:05 PM
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Sorted!
Weld the plywood in situ tomoz to the grp.
Just gotta pray the reinforcing 6" oval head nails don't puncture the fuel cell
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Sorted!
Weld the plywood in situ tomoz to the grp.
Just gotta pray the reinforcing 6" oval head nails don't puncture the fuel cell
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 06:32:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 06:32:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:27:05 PMJust cover it with underlay and spray glue some cushions on it
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Sorted!
Weld the plywood in situ tomoz to the grp.
Just gotta pray the reinforcing 6" oval head nails don't puncture the fuel cell
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:36:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 06:32:36 PMI like it !Quote from: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:27:05 PMJust cover it with underlay and spray glue some cushions on it
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Sorted!
Weld the plywood in situ tomoz to the grp.
Just gotta pray the reinforcing 6" oval head nails don't puncture the fuel cell
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I may use some shag pile that they fit to the door cards on FBs lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 09:05:16 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:36:27 PMNow your talking brotherQuote from: Mr Spiller on June 18, 2021, 06:32:36 PMI like it !Quote from: Jamie R on June 18, 2021, 06:27:05 PMJust cover it with underlay and spray glue some cushions on it
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Sorted!
Weld the plywood in situ tomoz to the grp.
Just gotta pray the reinforcing 6" oval head nails don't puncture the fuel cell
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I may use some shag pile that they fit to the door cards on FBs lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2021, 04:25:04 PM
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2021, 04:25:04 PM
Luxury wood veneer look eh! A bit like a Rolls Royce? Maybe a chilled cabinet in there for the race winning Champagne? ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:33:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:33:06 PM
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Not posted for a while......
Things still progressing on the rotus
Aluminium turned up for the firewall in the back.
Making some moulds for door cards. Needs recesses for elbows and door openers and cup holders.
Going to try my hand at making these out of carbon fibre.
Nothing to lose. And will be good practice .......
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Not posted for a while......
Things still progressing on the rotus
Aluminium turned up for the firewall in the back.
Making some moulds for door cards. Needs recesses for elbows and door openers and cup holders.
Going to try my hand at making these out of carbon fibre.
Nothing to lose. And will be good practice .......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:35:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:35:08 PM
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............As this is now sorned
Next time this sees the road or track, It will be in a very different format.
A lot less steel and more carbon fibre
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............As this is now sorned
Next time this sees the road or track, It will be in a very different format.
A lot less steel and more carbon fibre
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:37:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:37:38 PM
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As I've got a new daily to drag the cars to the tack on a trailer now.
I know it's a German oil burner, but the B5.5 was the most over engineered Cortina to come out of Wolfsburg
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As I've got a new daily to drag the cars to the tack on a trailer now.
I know it's a German oil burner, but the B5.5 was the most over engineered Cortina to come out of Wolfsburg
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Could be worse...you could have Vectra or even a Mondeo(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210627/6672efdb36ab7a3128b44116a6e938b8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 02:55:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 27, 2021, 02:52:45 PMA vector or mundane ? What are they lol
Could be worse...you could have Vectra or even a Mondeo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 09:53:27 AM
Post by: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:37:38 PMYou'll need a little "bling" to get in with the VeeDub scene ....
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As I've got a new daily to drag the cars to the tack on a trailer now.
I know it's a German oil burner, but the B5.5 was the most over engineered Cortina to come out of Wolfsburg
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 10:13:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 09:53:27 AMLol omg they're hideous !Quote from: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:37:38 PMYou'll need a little "bling" to get in with the VeeDub scene ....
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As I've got a new daily to drag the cars to the tack on a trailer now.
I know it's a German oil burner, but the B5.5 was the most over engineered Cortina to come out of Wolfsburg
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I've got some beaded seat covers. A Hackney carriage license.....
So call me "blue 2"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Post by: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 10:13:15 AMLol - don't forget to only use 4th gear as well !!Quote from: MattScott on June 28, 2021, 09:53:27 AMLol omg they're hideous !Quote from: Jamie R on June 27, 2021, 01:37:38 PMYou'll need a little "bling" to get in with the VeeDub scene ....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210627/e6490285de1400eec56df811ae529d2a.jpg)
As I've got a new daily to drag the cars to the tack on a trailer now.
I know it's a German oil burner, but the B5.5 was the most over engineered Cortina to come out of Wolfsburg
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I've got some beaded seat covers. A Hackney carriage license.....
So call me "blue 2"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 11:59:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 11:59:17 AM
Did my first commute today in it after months in the rx8.
Almost changed into 6th which it doesn't have
Thankfully I left it in neutral while I pondered before chucking it into reverse at a sizeable speed officer.
Could have been messy ......
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Almost changed into 6th which it doesn't have
Thankfully I left it in neutral while I pondered before chucking it into reverse at a sizeable speed officer.
Could have been messy ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
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Practising my porting on the door cards
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Practising my porting on the door cards
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 29, 2021, 02:48:14 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 29, 2021, 02:48:14 PM
Very nice! Drop the window-winding mechanism and you gain quite a bit of interior space in those doors. A mini bar to go with those cup holders? (strictly passenger side only, of course!) :occasion14:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2021, 02:53:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2021, 02:53:52 PM
No wind downs. Just poly carb
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 29, 2021, 03:12:08 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 29, 2021, 03:12:08 PM
Cool! Makes me feel ever so slightly envious. Tomorrow I'll be struggling with linking up window winding mechanisms full of greasy waxoyl and heavy glass window panes at odd angles. Could do with growing a third arm overnight...
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 29, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
Lol use your middle leg
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 29, 2021, 04:32:23 PM
Post by: Casey on June 29, 2021, 04:32:23 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 28, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
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Practising my porting on the door cards
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Nice big, smooth ports, should add a few extra bhp :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Me again............
Still lurking in the shadows, covered in filler dust. Last few stages before tear down of the car for paint etc.
So after months of testing, bread boards, programs, swearing, and crossing of fingers..........
I have a production item of the circuit board that does all the hard work of stripping the canbus codes down, adding the wheel sensor codes and firing them to the stock speedo binnacle.
Dont ask me what all the components are, because I havent got the first clue, but its been tested and works a treat.
Just need to finish the car and fit it.............
Still lurking in the shadows, covered in filler dust. Last few stages before tear down of the car for paint etc.
So after months of testing, bread boards, programs, swearing, and crossing of fingers..........
I have a production item of the circuit board that does all the hard work of stripping the canbus codes down, adding the wheel sensor codes and firing them to the stock speedo binnacle.
Dont ask me what all the components are, because I havent got the first clue, but its been tested and works a treat.
Just need to finish the car and fit it.............
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2021, 01:32:57 PM
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2021, 01:32:57 PM
Thats simply awesome..next level skillset on me.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 14, 2021, 02:03:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 14, 2021, 02:03:46 PM
Very clever
Glad it's sorted
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Glad it's sorted
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 14, 2021, 03:14:12 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 14, 2021, 03:14:12 PM
Brave man! :great:
That looks scary as hell!
That looks scary as hell!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 14, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
Post by: Casey on July 14, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
Looks an exceptionally professional piece of work :icon_thumleft:
I've been playing with the Arduino development board for a while now, learning about what it can do and designing a couple of programs, but that board looks tremendous in comparison to where I am at :notworthy:
I've been playing with the Arduino development board for a while now, learning about what it can do and designing a couple of programs, but that board looks tremendous in comparison to where I am at :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2021, 05:45:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2021, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: Casey on July 14, 2021, 04:49:22 PMWell none of it is to do with me.
Looks an exceptionally professional piece of work :icon_thumleft:
I've been playing with the Arduino development board for a while now, learning about what it can do and designing a couple of programs, but that board looks tremendous in comparison to where I am at :notworthy:
I just have geeky friends lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:43:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:43:49 PM
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First one out the mould
New woven glass fibre trial. Opposed to using chopped strand matting
This door card weighs about 100 grams and is miles stronger than chopped strand
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First one out the mould
New woven glass fibre trial. Opposed to using chopped strand matting
This door card weighs about 100 grams and is miles stronger than chopped strand
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
Woohoo ! Back at it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:45:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:45:02 PM
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I feel a future plastic pig coming on
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I feel a future plastic pig coming on
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:49:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:49:03 PM
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£4.88 a metre opposed to £28.88 for carbon
I'd probably use epoxy resin instead of polyester for body panels for a bit more strength.
Carbon fibre looks gorgeous but I can't justify the extra money for a minimal disadvantage in strength compared to twill weave glass fibre
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£4.88 a metre opposed to £28.88 for carbon
I'd probably use epoxy resin instead of polyester for body panels for a bit more strength.
Carbon fibre looks gorgeous but I can't justify the extra money for a minimal disadvantage in strength compared to twill weave glass fibre
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:49:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2021, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 08, 2021, 04:44:51 PMThought I better have a break from doing wedding stuff lol
Woohoo ! Back at it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2021, 04:52:35 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2021, 04:52:35 PM
Lol. Yeah. I must admit Sarah did 99% of ours. I just said I do at the beggining...then fell in the bush at the end at the day.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2021, 04:12:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2021, 04:12:46 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Mazda-RX-8-Dutton-Kit-Car-Convertible-Petrol-Manual-/384171986624?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Well I don't really have anything to say on this...... and I really shouldn't comment as the concept of my rotus is exactly the same.
But there are some things you cannot un-see
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Well I don't really have anything to say on this...... and I really shouldn't comment as the concept of my rotus is exactly the same.
But there are some things you cannot un-see
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 20, 2021, 05:30:43 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 20, 2021, 05:30:43 PM
Gulf colours
Must be fast
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Must be fast
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2021, 06:39:21 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2021, 06:39:21 PM
Its a running driving conversion so somebody done the wrench time which deserves respect.
Dutton in the same group as locost mind so i think asking price a little optimistic and more than i sold westy for. Dont think roadlegal either...
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Dutton in the same group as locost mind so i think asking price a little optimistic and more than i sold westy for. Dont think roadlegal either...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2021, 06:41:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2021, 06:41:18 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 20, 2021, 06:39:21 PMIt already crashed into an ugly wall
Its a running driving conversion so somebody done the wrench time which deserves respect.
Dutton in the same group as locost mind so i think asking price a little optimistic and more than i sold westy for. Dont think roadlegal either...
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At least your westy was appealing
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2021, 06:42:50 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2021, 06:42:50 PM
Yeah.. in the end couldnt give it away too 
. Oh well was fun.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:15 PM
Nor very exciting but progress is progress
Going forward with the door cards, got the door openers and internal locking sorted with the new door cards
Lots of elbow room for steering but denied any window (polycarbonate) winding down.
I do have a door pocket and a beer holder though
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Going forward with the door cards, got the door openers and internal locking sorted with the new door cards
Lots of elbow room for steering but denied any window (polycarbonate) winding down.
I do have a door pocket and a beer holder though
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:36 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2021, 07:36:54 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 30, 2021, 09:00:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 30, 2021, 09:00:56 PM
Absolutely no idea
Give me a clue
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 30, 2021, 09:30:06 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 30, 2021, 09:30:06 PM
Very nice! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
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Firewall panelling going in
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Firewall panelling going in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 06:37:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 06:37:51 PM
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And parcel shelf
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And parcel shelf
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2021, 09:39:48 PM
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2021, 09:39:48 PM
Great news, more progress :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on September 20, 2021, 06:41:12 PM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2021, 06:41:12 PM
Excellent news, now its starting to look like a proper racing car, whoops road car ;).
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 08:49:01 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 08:49:01 PM
Oh, yes! You can almost hear that rotary revving now! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: clive on September 20, 2021, 06:41:12 PMI'll settle for a road legal track day toy
Excellent news, now its starting to look like a proper racing car, whoops road car ;).
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:47 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 08:49:01 PMThat's tinnitus lol
Oh, yes! You can almost hear that rotary revving now! :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2021, 06:35:36 AM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2021, 06:35:36 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:47 PMQuote from: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 08:49:01 PMThat's tinnitus lol
Oh, yes! You can almost hear that rotary revving now! :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 21, 2021, 08:01:26 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 21, 2021, 08:01:26 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 20, 2021, 10:09:47 PM
That's tinnitus lol
I thought it was revving a bit high... :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 11, 2021, 06:23:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 11, 2021, 06:23:43 PM
Evening All.
Apologies for the quietness from this end. Ive not had time to catch up much on the forum.
Ive been a bit distracted with wedding plans in readiness for Friday. Poor excuse i know.........
Outside of that .............. work has been an absolute nightmare. Id pull my hair out if I had any.
Ive been plugging away at the Rotus still, more glass work, trying to finish off interior trim pieces before teardown. Made a little tray to put nik-naks etc in and breaks up the flatness of the firewall.
Making moulds for the father in laws Locost as well ! kill me now!
Following the regs of IVA too, so I modded my non-locking fuel filler cap that will accept a tether. Bath plug chain! £2.99 ebay special. That will stop losing it on track or road when driving.
Apologies for the quietness from this end. Ive not had time to catch up much on the forum.
Ive been a bit distracted with wedding plans in readiness for Friday. Poor excuse i know.........
Outside of that .............. work has been an absolute nightmare. Id pull my hair out if I had any.
Ive been plugging away at the Rotus still, more glass work, trying to finish off interior trim pieces before teardown. Made a little tray to put nik-naks etc in and breaks up the flatness of the firewall.
Making moulds for the father in laws Locost as well ! kill me now!
Following the regs of IVA too, so I modded my non-locking fuel filler cap that will accept a tether. Bath plug chain! £2.99 ebay special. That will stop losing it on track or road when driving.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 11, 2021, 06:29:32 PM
Post by: Casey on October 11, 2021, 06:29:32 PM
Wedding, pffftttt, no excuse ;) :))
Good to see the fine details taking shape Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Good to see the fine details taking shape Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 11, 2021, 01:08:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 11, 2021, 01:08:25 PM
I guess Ive moved up a notch, in my own book, if nothing else.
Im not finished with the Rotus, but Im almost at the point of stripping it all part for paint and final build. Like wise Ive no intention of selling the Rotus, as its been a big part of my recent life and the most technically challenging build Ive had to date.
Well, despite the bikes I still want to do, I still have plans in the rotary world.
My next build is probably going to be my last car build, as my projects take forever! But its going to be my best build !!!!
I wont give too much away........... yet............. but Ive bought some pieces to start it as the car is built around the engine.
Enjoy !
Im not finished with the Rotus, but Im almost at the point of stripping it all part for paint and final build. Like wise Ive no intention of selling the Rotus, as its been a big part of my recent life and the most technically challenging build Ive had to date.
Well, despite the bikes I still want to do, I still have plans in the rotary world.
My next build is probably going to be my last car build, as my projects take forever! But its going to be my best build !!!!
I wont give too much away........... yet............. but Ive bought some pieces to start it as the car is built around the engine.
Enjoy !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 11, 2021, 01:49:01 PM
Post by: Casey on November 11, 2021, 01:49:01 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What power are you aiming for Jamie ;)
What power are you aiming for Jamie ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 11, 2021, 01:52:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 11, 2021, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: Casey on November 11, 2021, 01:49:01 PMLol well if I was using all of those housings..... lots.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What power are you aiming for Jamie ;)
Just running a 13b so would be happy around 300 ish.
Using Colin chapmans philosphy again of added lightness
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2021, 05:36:27 AM
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2021, 05:36:27 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 12, 2021, 07:50:22 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 12, 2021, 07:50:22 AM
Mid-engined stretch limo build, I presume? I'd like to see that 26-rotor eccentric shaft! :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:30:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:30:18 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
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It's all getting much lighter !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 23, 2021, 07:33:15 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 23, 2021, 07:33:15 PM
I'm
Jealous
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:33:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:33:48 PM
Lol god knows why
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 23, 2021, 07:43:57 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 23, 2021, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:33:48 PMThe weight of it
Lol god knows why
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:48:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:48:11 PM
It's only lighter due to stripping it down to prep for paint.
It's the doors that kill an rx8 in weight as the rear form the b pillar.
Cage it to keep the torsional stiffness and do what clive did with grp doors.
If i can get this plastic pedalo down to 800kg I'll be happy, but I still keep fitting the car with creature comforts lol
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It's the doors that kill an rx8 in weight as the rear form the b pillar.
Cage it to keep the torsional stiffness and do what clive did with grp doors.
If i can get this plastic pedalo down to 800kg I'll be happy, but I still keep fitting the car with creature comforts lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:49:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 23, 2021, 07:49:23 PM
Oh and the rx8 diff weighs the same as a submarine but you know that from messing with that rattle on your mounts or summat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 25, 2021, 06:11:29 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 25, 2021, 06:11:29 PM
Prep for paint. The excitement is building! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2021, 06:23:45 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2021, 06:23:45 PM
I love the build up after paint. Putting the trim on carefully
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 25, 2021, 06:47:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 25, 2021, 06:47:24 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2021, 06:23:45 PMMany hours of prep yet lol
I love the build up after paint. Putting the trim on carefully
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 25, 2021, 08:04:39 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2021, 08:04:39 PM
Great to see you back on it, all excellent news :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2021, 05:43:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2021, 05:43:50 PM
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It's out
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 26, 2021, 05:48:51 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 26, 2021, 05:48:51 PM
Bravo! Now it's just GRP! :P
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 26, 2021, 05:50:03 PM
Post by: Casey on November 26, 2021, 05:50:03 PM
Great to see some updates! A step closer to paint :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
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Finally!!!
I can get round to do the jobs not normally possible
So glassing the A posts to the roll cage in similar vain to how they're welded to roll cage in steel cars.
A bit of extra rigidity, it also repairs the flange that the rubber door trim pushes onto. I think the car has been pushed at some point and the ham fisted fella snapped the flange.
On a serious note..... there's no strength to these A posts. Heaven only knows how anyone survived a roll over crash in one of these Elans???
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Finally!!!
I can get round to do the jobs not normally possible
So glassing the A posts to the roll cage in similar vain to how they're welded to roll cage in steel cars.
A bit of extra rigidity, it also repairs the flange that the rubber door trim pushes onto. I think the car has been pushed at some point and the ham fisted fella snapped the flange.
On a serious note..... there's no strength to these A posts. Heaven only knows how anyone survived a roll over crash in one of these Elans???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 12:51:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 12:51:27 PM
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I'd be stuffed without my block n tackle.
When separating the body is a 1 man job.
Admittedly the hole for the roof vent is a huge help
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I'd be stuffed without my block n tackle.
When separating the body is a 1 man job.
Admittedly the hole for the roof vent is a huge help
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
Good planning
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
I think the use of the roof hole was more luck than judgement buddy.
The last contraption I made was a cage that went around the outside.
Thankfully I can lift it up off the roll cage now.
But Christ it makes life easier
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The last contraption I made was a cage that went around the outside.
Thankfully I can lift it up off the roll cage now.
But Christ it makes life easier
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 03:30:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 03:30:57 PM
I dunno if Im losing the plot or not ( dont answer that) Im sure Ive asked this question before but im damned if I can find it.
So question for anyone running RX8 drive line.
I have a 6 speed manual and a 5 speed manual. A mark one 4.44 diff and an a later R3 4.7 diff.
I know Paul wasnt impressed when he swapped his 6 speed for a 5 speed one, but not sure what diff ratio he was using.
Can anyone recommend a good combo out of those options or keep it stock?
Thanks
J
So question for anyone running RX8 drive line.
I have a 6 speed manual and a 5 speed manual. A mark one 4.44 diff and an a later R3 4.7 diff.
I know Paul wasnt impressed when he swapped his 6 speed for a 5 speed one, but not sure what diff ratio he was using.
Can anyone recommend a good combo out of those options or keep it stock?
Thanks
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2021, 09:16:38 PM
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2021, 09:16:38 PM
I can't help with that one, but Clive has used both a 5 speed and 6 speed gearbox in his race car, plus a variety of different ratios so can hopefully offer some insights.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 09:43:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 03, 2021, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: Casey on December 03, 2021, 09:16:38 PMLol he has very different characteristics too. Double the power lol
I can't help with that one, but Clive has used both a 5 speed and 6 speed gearbox in his race car, plus a variety of different ratios so can hopefully offer some insights.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:08:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:08:34 AM
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I can think of a word to describe this.
Rhymes with truck
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I can think of a word to describe this.
Rhymes with truck
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:09:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:09:08 AM
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Other side looks better
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2021, 08:13:37 AM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2021, 08:13:37 AM
Id use the 6 speed with the r3 diff. Perfect for na if your using the 18" rx8 alloys.
If using a smaller dia wheel id use the standard 4.4 else with the 4.7 1st will be very short.
There are diff calculators online you can have a play with.
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If using a smaller dia wheel id use the standard 4.4 else with the 4.7 1st will be very short.
There are diff calculators online you can have a play with.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2021, 08:13:54 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2021, 08:13:54 AM
Muck
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:16:05 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:16:05 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2021, 08:13:54 AMVery good
Muck
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:29:18 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 04, 2021, 08:13:37 AMMakes sense, thanks Jon
Id use the 6 speed with the r3 diff. Perfect for na if your using the 18" rx8 alloys.
If using a smaller dia wheel id use the standard 4.4 else with the 4.7 1st will be very short.
There are diff calculators online you can have a play with.
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The stock set up is 225/45R18
Wanted to run steels for a traditional luck.
Can't get 18s but I've got 17s that fit.
I can run 225/50R17 which is 3mm smaller in diameter
So it's basically stock
Bit more sidewall, just means more dynamic driving lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 04, 2021, 08:13:37 AMI agree with Jon. R3 diff is stronger and that diff rations is better for you.
Id use the 6 speed with the r3 diff. Perfect for na if your using the 18" rx8 alloys.
If using a smaller dia wheel id use the standard 4.4 else with the 4.7 1st will be very short.
There are diff calculators online you can have a play with.
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However, 6 speed gearbox might have better gear rations for you, than 5 speed has, but it is not as strong. But it shouldnt be issue for your setup
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 09:04:28 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 09:04:28 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 08:08:34 AMStupid EGR systems. And stupid users that wont use these cars correctly
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I can think of a word to describe this.
Rhymes with truck
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: re japi on December 04, 2021, 09:03:12 AMYes, better to ask people who have lived and breathed it rather than trawl the internet and sift through the wrong info ....Quote from: boosted on December 04, 2021, 08:13:37 AMI agree with Jon. R3 diff is stronger and that diff rations is better for you.
Id use the 6 speed with the r3 diff. Perfect for na if your using the 18" rx8 alloys.
If using a smaller dia wheel id use the standard 4.4 else with the 4.7 1st will be very short.
There are diff calculators online you can have a play with.
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However, 6 speed gearbox might have better gear rations for you, than 5 speed has, but it is not as strong. But it shouldnt be issue for your setup
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 04, 2021, 10:43:22 AM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2021, 10:43:22 AM
Maybe worth knowing that the 192 box is physically smaller than the 231 one box as this may be better for fitting up into the transmission tunnel.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 11:56:11 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2021, 11:56:11 AM
Oh, good point sir. Size differense is actually quite big too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
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Not updated my thread for a while.
But I can confirm, there is one thing worse than fibreglassing
Lining up panel gaps on fibreglass panels.
My ocd may have to take a back seat with this build as it's not gonna be concours.
As a saying goes that I use frequently at work.
"You cannot polish a turd, you can only roll it in glitter, for it will always be a turd"
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Not updated my thread for a while.
But I can confirm, there is one thing worse than fibreglassing
Lining up panel gaps on fibreglass panels.
My ocd may have to take a back seat with this build as it's not gonna be concours.
As a saying goes that I use frequently at work.
"You cannot polish a turd, you can only roll it in glitter, for it will always be a turd"
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 09, 2022, 11:35:43 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 09, 2022, 11:35:43 AM
Looks great! Didn't someone mention 1970s build tolerances some time ago? :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2022, 11:37:56 AM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2022, 11:37:56 AM
I think those gaps will close up when you put in on the floor
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 09, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
Just a thought, you probably know how the hot rod shops in the states get panel gaps, they put the doors on, body filler the side of the car then with a thin slitting wheel, cut the door gaps !
Just a thought, i'll get my coat ;D
Just a thought, i'll get my coat ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: clive on January 09, 2022, 12:07:53 PMYeah seem that done on plenty of Boyd coddington programmes.
Just a thought, you probably know how the hot rod shops in the states get panel gaps, they put the doors on, body filler the side of the car then with a thin slitting wheel, cut the door gaps !
Just a thought, i'll get my coat ;D
It's difficult as the winged flare out towards the wheels from the door openings.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 09, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2022, 01:16:58 PM
Ah, but i'm sure you could do a better job than Mr Coddington. I've got faith in you ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 02:15:48 PM
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 02:15:48 PM
Give us a side on shot of the gaps
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
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Give us a side on shot of the gaps
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One culprit
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:17:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:17:25 PM
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Give us a side on shot of the gaps
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This one is a pig
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:18:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:18:43 PM
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Give us a side on shot of the gaps
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Drive a bus in that
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:34:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:34:20 PM
I think they call it 1970s build tolerances coupled with its built by lotus, tripled with the fact I've molested it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 04:52:13 PM
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 04:52:13 PM
So what your saying is it could be worse
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM
What's the fit of the window frame like ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 09, 2022, 05:05:49 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 09, 2022, 05:05:49 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:34:20 PM
its built by lotus
"Every time I'm being overtaken by my own rear wheel, I know I'm in a Lotus"
Graham Hill
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220109/0afb254fec35d39060a3dd96030df833.jpg)
What's the fit of the window frame like ?
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Not bad but they are a separate bolt on piece so I can adjust independently
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 05:59:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on January 09, 2022, 05:05:49 PMLollll hahahaQuote from: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 04:34:20 PM
its built by lotus
"Every time I'm being overtaken by my own rear wheel, I know I'm in a Lotus"
Graham Hill
I'll be ok, my rear wheels are Mazda lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 06:08:52 PM
Post by: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 06:08:52 PM
Frames are nice !so what's the plan on the lines lots of filler / bondo ?can I ask what is the finish color going to be
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 07:12:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2022, 07:12:52 PM
Quote from: Richnzj on January 09, 2022, 06:08:52 PMNo I shall use gel coat as the new wings have that. It's much stronger than filler in areas most prone to knocks etc.
Frames are nice !so what's the plan on the lines
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I'll use filler only small imperfections
Mazda racing orange. Mx5 30th anniversary colour.
With satin black accents
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:03:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:03:26 AM
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First boot hinge in place on near side
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First boot hinge in place on near side
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:04:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:04:09 AM
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Spot the difference on the offside ?
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Spot the difference on the offside ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:17:16 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:17:16 AM
Are they off set for it to line up ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:19:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:17:16 AMI think the apprentice in Norfolk was drilling holes in 1970
Are they off set for it to line up ?
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Mind you you know what they say bout ppl from that neck of the woods
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:21:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:21:27 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:17:16 AMI may just plug up all the holes n start again
Are they off set for it to line up ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:21:31 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:19:39 AMI wasn't sure if they were the original locating holesQuote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2022, 09:17:16 AMI think the apprentice in Norfolk was drilling holes in 1970
Are they off set for it to line up ?
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Mind you you know what they say bout ppl from that neck of the woods
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Or what you ha e had to do
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 10, 2022, 01:41:16 PM
Post by: boosted on January 10, 2022, 01:41:16 PM
Cone cutter and penny washers
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on January 14, 2022, 09:41:07 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on January 14, 2022, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:04:09 AM
Spot the difference on the offside ?
One is bigger than the other :toothy12: :toothy12:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2022, 03:55:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 15, 2022, 03:55:37 AM
Quote from: Hobbawobba on January 14, 2022, 09:41:07 PMLolllll yup what a plankQuote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2022, 09:04:09 AM
Spot the difference on the offside ?
One is bigger than the other :toothy12: :toothy12:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
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Door panels level
Gel coat and filler to the rescue
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Door panels level
Gel coat and filler to the rescue
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:34:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:34:03 PM
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Got the one side in etch primer this morning
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 16, 2022, 05:35:11 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 16, 2022, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:34:03 PMBit of a landmark that
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Got the one side in etch primer this morning
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Well done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:39:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 16, 2022, 05:35:11 PMHad my paint guy over today, he seemed largely happy so far, we've cooked up a plan so.....Quote from: Jamie R on January 16, 2022, 05:34:03 PMBit of a landmark that
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Got the one side in etch primer this morning
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Well done
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I reckon in 4-6 weeks it will be going in to be drowned in filler primer.
Back home, block it all down. I'm spraying the inside satin black.
Then back down for top coat.
Home again to nib n polish. No lacquer required, it's a solid paint colour. No glittery crap.
Then onto the chassis
All thats left is everything else
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 16, 2022, 07:36:58 PM
Post by: Casey on January 16, 2022, 07:36:58 PM
Paint! Excellent to see that stage starting Jamie :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 16, 2022, 07:40:06 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 16, 2022, 07:40:06 PM
Exciting times! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2022, 09:46:59 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2022, 09:46:59 AM
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So after much swearing.
Repeated attempts to modify holes.
I filled in all holes and started from scratch not using those turnip muncher positions.
Need to spend the day tidying the shed. Looks like a bad day in Bosnia
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So after much swearing.
Repeated attempts to modify holes.
I filled in all holes and started from scratch not using those turnip muncher positions.
Need to spend the day tidying the shed. Looks like a bad day in Bosnia
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 24, 2022, 05:25:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 24, 2022, 05:25:09 PM
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Wrong thread but not sure where to post.
Pair of outer sills for Rx8. Not perfect quality but not crusty and rotten either.
Easy parts uk on eBay. Based on Poland ironically.
Quick degrease, zinc primer then store until required
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Wrong thread but not sure where to post.
Pair of outer sills for Rx8. Not perfect quality but not crusty and rotten either.
Easy parts uk on eBay. Based on Poland ironically.
Quick degrease, zinc primer then store until required
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on February 01, 2022, 07:51:09 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on February 01, 2022, 07:51:09 PM
Good to see you're still going with this.
I need to get back on here more
I need to get back on here more
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2022, 07:23:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 03, 2022, 07:23:53 AM
Yeah still hard at it, just not this week as I'm working in Dubai again
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:38:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:38:02 PM
Mini update.....
If you remove all the wheel sensors from your rx8 and need to run the stock speedo..... fear not!
Fit one of these !!
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If you remove all the wheel sensors from your rx8 and need to run the stock speedo..... fear not!
Fit one of these !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 19, 2022, 12:51:40 PM
Post by: boosted on February 19, 2022, 12:51:40 PM
That is quality.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:52:48 PM
If only I knew how it worked lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 19, 2022, 04:15:29 PM
Post by: clive on February 19, 2022, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:38:02 PM
Mini update.....
If you remove all the wheel sensors from your rx8 and need to run the stock speedo..... fear not!
Fit one of these !!
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Go on then, how does it work without wheel or transmission info, finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 04:46:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: clive on February 19, 2022, 04:15:29 PMWell I didn't lie, but I was economical with the truth .....Quote from: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 12:38:02 PM
Mini update.....
If you remove all the wheel sensors from your rx8 and need to run the stock speedo..... fear not!
Fit one of these !!
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Go on then, how does it work without wheel or transmission info, finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing ;)
.... More like misleading lol
I should have said stock wheel sensors.
I use one on the back. Retro fitted
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 04:48:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2022, 04:48:15 PM
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More etch primer going on.
Just the front bumper then down the paint shop
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More etch primer going on.
Just the front bumper then down the paint shop
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 19, 2022, 05:30:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 19, 2022, 05:30:45 PM
Good progress Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 20, 2022, 12:10:39 PM
Post by: clive on February 20, 2022, 12:10:39 PM
Well I didn't lie, but I was economical with the truth, So said the actress to the Bishop ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on February 22, 2022, 09:18:06 PM
Post by: jinx on February 22, 2022, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: clive on February 20, 2022, 12:10:39 PM
Well I didn't lie, but I was economical with the truth, So said the actress to the Bishop ;D ;D
The Bishop of course, denies this. (Very litigious group, senior churchmen.)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 23, 2022, 08:52:33 AM
Post by: clive on February 23, 2022, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: jinx on February 22, 2022, 09:18:06 PM.Quote from: clive on February 20, 2022, 12:10:39 PM
Well I didn't lie, but I was economical with the truth, So said the actress to the Bishop ;D ;D
The Bishop of course, denies this. (Very litigious group, senior churchmen.)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:44:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:44:52 PM
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No great change here guys.
Apart from in back in the shed from a week of tonsillitis, coughing up all manner of different colours.
Still body prepping and aligning gaps to a not perfect but that will do level
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No great change here guys.
Apart from in back in the shed from a week of tonsillitis, coughing up all manner of different colours.
Still body prepping and aligning gaps to a not perfect but that will do level
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2022, 04:46:59 PM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2022, 04:46:59 PM
Come on crack on need this resin rocket finished...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
I'm trying I'm trying
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 26, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 26, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Slow cooking is supposed to taste better, isn't it? This is going to be one corker of a car! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:56:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 04:56:19 PM
Well if it isn't I can turn it upside down and use it as a canoe
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on February 26, 2022, 07:25:30 PM
Post by: Richnzj on February 26, 2022, 07:25:30 PM
tonsillitis, coughing up all manner of different colours. Been there know ya pain
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on February 26, 2022, 07:26:12 PM
Post by: Richnzj on February 26, 2022, 07:26:12 PM
You forgot flaming Friday again
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 07:52:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 26, 2022, 07:52:16 PM
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Ah shoot !
Gonna have to improvise this week
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Ah shoot !
Gonna have to improvise this week
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 26, 2022, 10:14:01 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2022, 10:14:01 PM
Is it PP :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2022, 03:35:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2022, 03:35:51 PM
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I know I only posted yesterday but it's days like today when I can see all past the 4 years of filler dust and sparks and grime and smells and just....
Appreciate the effort put in over the years. 32 bespoke parts/panels..... I've probably missed some.
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I know I only posted yesterday but it's days like today when I can see all past the 4 years of filler dust and sparks and grime and smells and just....
Appreciate the effort put in over the years. 32 bespoke parts/panels..... I've probably missed some.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 27, 2022, 06:11:54 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 27, 2022, 06:11:54 PM
Keep those posts coming, Jamie. Great to see the progress! :great:
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Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2022, 08:06:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2022, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on February 27, 2022, 06:11:54 PMNothing looks different on a photo, but days of levelling and sanding for it to look the same...
Keep those posts coming, Jamie. Great to see the progress! :great:
So frustrating
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on March 01, 2022, 11:47:32 AM
Post by: jinx on March 01, 2022, 11:47:32 AM
Well the shut lines would embarrass Hethel. I hope you've retained enough of the Lotus ethos to mean the doors will still open as you go over a bump. :))
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Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 01, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jinx on March 01, 2022, 11:47:32 AMI bloody hope so lolll
Well the shut lines would embarrass Hethel. I hope you've retained enough of the Lotus ethos to mean the doors will still open as you go over a bump. :))
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:56:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:56:21 PM
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Whilst I really appreciate the fact my shell won't go rusty...., prepping it for pin holes with dolphin glaze is a chore !
Thankfully front end, rad exit duct, headlight covers, bonnet, boot lid and both doors are all done now.
Doors looked like the surface of a sponge.
Trying to get it booked into the paint shop first week April !!
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Whilst I really appreciate the fact my shell won't go rusty...., prepping it for pin holes with dolphin glaze is a chore !
Thankfully front end, rad exit duct, headlight covers, bonnet, boot lid and both doors are all done now.
Doors looked like the surface of a sponge.
Trying to get it booked into the paint shop first week April !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:57:22 PM
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I almost got tempted back to Ford Olympic Blue
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I almost got tempted back to Ford Olympic Blue
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
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But Mazda racing orange it is .......
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But Mazda racing orange it is .......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2022, 03:39:45 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2022, 03:39:45 PM
Great yo hear it's almost ready for the paint shop :13:
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Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 03:43:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 03:43:54 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 13, 2022, 03:39:45 PMGonna book the week off work and spend it down there
Great yo hear it's almost ready for the paint shop :13:
Free labour means no charge ! Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:44:13 PM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:44:13 PM
I like that blue...and a very period coulor
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 03:46:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:44:13 PMI like that blue too
I like that blue...and a very period coulor
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The simplest solution would be do it in the gt40 gulf colours and best of both worlds
But it's been done to death
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:50:22 PM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:50:22 PM
787 pattern?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 04:48:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 04:48:44 PM
Nah man lol
I like it, but on the 787......
It don't look right when I see it on mx5's etc
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I like it, but on the 787......
It don't look right when I see it on mx5's etc
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 13, 2022, 06:19:07 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 13, 2022, 06:19:07 PM
Respect! The (Mazda Racing) Orange Revolution it is, then! :great:
Black & gold could be cool, too, tho. Links to Lotus and Norton Rotary bike:
Black & gold could be cool, too, tho. Links to Lotus and Norton Rotary bike:
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Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 06:31:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 06:31:49 PM
Ah the JPS colours !
I can't go black. That's the next car lol
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I can't go black. That's the next car lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 03:49:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 03:49:33 PM
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Everything etch primed. All pin holes filled.
Week booked off work 4th April to live down the paint shop.
Next posts in a few weeks time !
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Everything etch primed. All pin holes filled.
Week booked off work 4th April to live down the paint shop.
Next posts in a few weeks time !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 19, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 19, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
Love the shape of that at Jamie
Looks great one colour
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:45:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:45:34 PM
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She's making a break for freedom
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She's making a break for freedom
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:46:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:46:16 PM
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That chassis gonna be cold tonight
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That chassis gonna be cold tonight
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2022, 06:46:37 PM
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2022, 06:46:37 PM
You should leave that color, looks Batmanish
Looks good mate
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Looks good mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: re japi on March 19, 2022, 06:46:37 PMNoooooo maybe the next project lol
You should leave that color, looks Batmanish
Looks good mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on March 19, 2022, 07:07:58 PM
Post by: Richnzj on March 19, 2022, 07:07:58 PM
That Honda sweet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 07:46:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: Richnzj on March 19, 2022, 07:07:58 PMYup 1974 xl250 yank import
That Honda
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 19, 2022, 10:10:21 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 19, 2022, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:45:34 PMShe does look good in matt black
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She's making a break for freedom
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 20, 2022, 12:01:07 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 20, 2022, 12:01:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 03:46:34 PMGulf colours would be pretty full on for a road car. Tango orange is surprisingly a little more subtle !!Quote from: boosted on March 13, 2022, 03:44:13 PMI like that blue too
I like that blue...and a very period coulor
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The simplest solution would be do it in the gt40 gulf colours and best of both worlds
But it's been done to death
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 03:09:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: MattScott on March 19, 2022, 10:10:21 PMYup me too. It's been a longggggg time comingQuote from: Jamie R on March 19, 2022, 05:45:34 PMShe does look good in matt black
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She's making a break for freedom
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 06:21:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 06:21:32 PM
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Ok my intelligent track racing inspirational people.....
Sat out enjoying the sun this evening contemplating bits n pieces and I have a couple of questions.
Would it be beneficial to update the anti roll bars while I'm rebuilding the chassis or will the stock rx8 set up suffice under a 500kg lighter car??
Secondly I take it poly bushes on the inboard end of all suspension arms is a must ?
Feel free to impart your track knowledge based on rx8 experiences etc
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Ok my intelligent track racing inspirational people.....
Sat out enjoying the sun this evening contemplating bits n pieces and I have a couple of questions.
Would it be beneficial to update the anti roll bars while I'm rebuilding the chassis or will the stock rx8 set up suffice under a 500kg lighter car??
Secondly I take it poly bushes on the inboard end of all suspension arms is a must ?
Feel free to impart your track knowledge based on rx8 experiences etc
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 07:30:40 PM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 07:30:40 PM
Poly bushes yes and maybe our MX-5 NC roll bars as RX-8 ones will be too stiff for you.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: clive on March 20, 2022, 07:30:40 PMOkies. Will give you a tinkle tomorrow. Need to put an order in for some bits n pieces......
Poly bushes yes and maybe our MX-5 NC roll bars as RX-8 ones will be too stiff for you.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:19:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:19:48 PM
One question
Should we be going stiffer bushes if we going softer ARB ?
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Should we be going stiffer bushes if we going softer ARB ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 21, 2022, 08:56:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 21, 2022, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:19:48 PMGood question
One question
Should we be going stiffer bushes if we going softer ARB ?
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I don't know ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 31, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 31, 2022, 08:16:14 PM
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Oh the things Mr Haynsford has me doing !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 09:09:44 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 31, 2022, 08:16:14 PMLovely smell from that I bet
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Oh the things Mr Haynsford has me doing !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 09:19:58 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 09:09:44 AMLike OAP weeQuote from: Jamie R on March 31, 2022, 08:16:14 PMLovely smell from that I bet
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Oh the things Mr Haynsford has me doing !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 10:56:33 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 10:56:33 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 09:19:58 AMMuch worse I thoughtQuote from: Mr Spiller on April 01, 2022, 09:09:44 AMLike OAP weeQuote from: Jamie R on March 31, 2022, 08:16:14 PMLovely smell from that I bet
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Oh the things Mr Haynsford has me doing !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 06:29:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 06:29:51 PM
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She's ready !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 01, 2022, 07:03:55 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 01, 2022, 07:03:55 PM
Wow! Star job! :sign0098:
Only I had imagined the wheels a bit bigger... :D
Only I had imagined the wheels a bit bigger... :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 01, 2022, 07:47:54 PM
Post by: clive on April 01, 2022, 07:47:54 PM
Excellent news, looks OEM from that angle :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:26:04 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on April 01, 2022, 07:03:55 PMDon't worry, he'll bolt on some "Simmons" soon
Wow! Star job! :sign0098:
Only I had imagined the wheels a bit bigger... :D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 10:30:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 10:30:15 PM
Quote from: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:26:04 PM(https://media2.giphy.com/media/dOl2LFw0RbTMc/giphy.gif)Quote from: Eccentric shaft on April 01, 2022, 07:03:55 PMDon't worry, he'll bolt on some "Simmons" soon
Wow! Star job! :sign0098:
Only I had imagined the wheels a bit bigger... :D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 01, 2022, 10:30:15 PMQuote from: MattScott on April 01, 2022, 10:26:04 PM(https://media2.giphy.com/media/dOl2LFw0RbTMc/giphy.gif)Quote from: Eccentric shaft on April 01, 2022, 07:03:55 PMDon't worry, he'll bolt on some "Simmons" soon
Wow! Star job! :sign0098:
Only I had imagined the wheels a bit bigger... :D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
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Getting exciting
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2022, 10:53:30 AM
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2022, 10:53:30 AM
I love building a car up after paint. Gonna be
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2022, 07:39:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 05, 2022, 07:39:47 AM
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Well it's here. Just gotta roller it on
Hope it doesn't look like an RAC van
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Well it's here. Just gotta roller it on
Hope it doesn't look like an RAC van
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 01:05:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 01:05:37 PM
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One of the last shots in primer
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2022, 01:08:43 PM
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2022, 01:08:43 PM
Getting closer every day..cant wait to see it in colour
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 01:16:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 01:16:39 PM
I'll take some tonight when it's in RAC orange
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 06:47:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 06:47:12 PM
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First coat
No turning back lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on April 06, 2022, 07:06:43 PM
Post by: Richnzj on April 06, 2022, 07:06:43 PM
hot 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
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Woot
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
Oh yeah... looks epic.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 07:17:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 07:17:39 PM
Lovely colour
Will look even better with the paper off it
Good choice
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Will look even better with the paper off it
Good choice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:18:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 07:17:39 PMAnd some satin black aero to break it up
Lovely colour
Will look even better with the paper off it
Good choice
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 07:46:18 PM
Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 07:46:18 PM
Got to say, well done, as you must have done a good preping job for the guy to paint it this quick :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:51:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2022, 07:51:40 PM
Quote from: clive on April 06, 2022, 07:46:18 PMClive I could cry my finger tips are soooo sore
Got to say, well done, as you must have done a good preping job for the guy to paint it this quick :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2022, 08:03:39 PM
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2022, 08:03:39 PM
Looking ace in that colour :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 06, 2022, 09:52:42 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 06, 2022, 09:52:42 PM
Welcome in the Orange Club, Jamie. Stunning colour!!! :love4:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 07, 2022, 06:54:24 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 07, 2022, 06:54:24 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PM
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And so the fun begins
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 06:38:22 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMCan't imagine that push bike sees too much action
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 09, 2022, 07:07:16 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 09, 2022, 07:07:16 PM
1:1 scale model kits are the best! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 07:09:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 07:09:34 PM
Quote from: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 06:38:22 PMLol nope never seen the wife ride it and less likely since her disabilityQuote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMCan't imagine that push bike sees too much action
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She won't sell it tho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 07:28:20 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 07:09:34 PMI have 2 blocking my 7 in the garage. I assumed it was meant as additional security (which is nice) as they are never riddenQuote from: MattScott on April 09, 2022, 06:38:22 PMLol nope never seen the wife ride it and less likely since her disabilityQuote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMCan't imagine that push bike sees too much action
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She won't sell it tho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 09, 2022, 09:51:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 09, 2022, 09:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMIf you tturm the photo down side up
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Looks like a monster munch
Loves a monster munch I do
Flaming hot or beef ones
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 09, 2022, 09:51:39 PMI'm a pickled onion man personally but , you been on the pop Wayne ?? LolQuote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMIf you tturm the photo down side up
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Looks like a monster munch
Loves a monster munch I do
Flaming hot or beef ones
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 10, 2022, 10:42:34 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 10, 2022, 10:42:34 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 10:20:39 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on April 09, 2022, 09:51:39 PMI'm a pickled onion man personally but , you been on the pop Wayne ?? LolQuote from: Jamie R on April 09, 2022, 06:34:22 PMIf you tturm the photo down side up
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Looks like a monster munch
Loves a monster munch I do
Flaming hot or beef ones
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 10, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: MattScott on April 10, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
Spotted this on another platform and thought Rotus is going to look epic with black accents (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220410/7d42146a42e8a6d30a787164aae8eb39.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2022, 12:48:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2022, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: MattScott on April 10, 2022, 11:08:27 AMYup that's the plan
Spotted this on another platform and thought Rotus is going to look epic with black accents
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on April 10, 2022, 08:32:05 PM
Post by: Richnzj on April 10, 2022, 08:32:05 PM
Great looking in the sun today also with black bits (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220410/0b7a65da61b92f69991a20bd9552e95e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2022, 08:36:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 10, 2022, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: Richnzj on April 10, 2022, 08:32:05 PMOooooooooo
Great looking in the sun today also with black bits
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2022, 08:35:24 PM
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You should never air your dirty laundry in an open forum.....
.... So I'll zinc prime my freshly shot blasted trailing arms on my washing line
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.... So I'll zinc prime my freshly shot blasted trailing arms on my washing line
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 11, 2022, 10:38:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 11, 2022, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 11, 2022, 08:35:24 PMWhat colour and what will you be treating them with ?
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You should never air your dirty laundry in an open forum.....
.... So I'll zinc prime my freshly shot blasted trailing arms on my washing line
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2022, 11:28:28 PM
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2022, 11:28:28 PM
Ooooo, I hope you remove the sticky residue on the line from the duck tape before Emma hangs out the clothes, or someone will be in trouble ;) ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:17:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:17:12 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 11, 2022, 10:38:45 PMBoring black lolQuote from: Jamie R on April 11, 2022, 08:35:24 PMWhat colour and what will you be treating them with ?
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You should never air your dirty laundry in an open forum.....
.... So I'll zinc prime my freshly shot blasted trailing arms on my washing line
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:18:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:18:56 AM
Quote from: Casey on April 11, 2022, 11:28:28 PMYup I went stealth......
Ooooo, I hope you remove the sticky residue on the line from the duck tape before Emma hangs out the clothes, or someone will be in trouble ;) ;D
Hung , painted, dried and wiped the line before she even realised it was Monday lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 10:18:27 AM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 10:18:27 AM
Wheres these build up piccies...need drip feeding cant have em all at once...be an overload.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 10:41:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 10:41:17 AM
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Nothing really to drip feed yet.
Had a disaster yesterday.
Blasted the front arms and the chassis.
Powder coated the chassis last night. It come off the chains on the conveyer first time round and landed on the floor on a 200 degree oven.
Switch it all off, let it cool. Straighten out where it bent the rear strut tower.
Powder coat it again, then find out it's too big for the turn at the bottom and it scraped the wall, so needed to carry out some quick remedial work.
So by the time I finished messing about I was loading the chassis onto the roof rails with a fork lift truck at 7.30 last night.
As soon as I have all the arms painted and stripped the callipers and hubs and painted them, fitted poly bushes I'll upload some pics.
Then it's engine rebuild and drivetrain fitment
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Nothing really to drip feed yet.
Had a disaster yesterday.
Blasted the front arms and the chassis.
Powder coated the chassis last night. It come off the chains on the conveyer first time round and landed on the floor on a 200 degree oven.
Switch it all off, let it cool. Straighten out where it bent the rear strut tower.
Powder coat it again, then find out it's too big for the turn at the bottom and it scraped the wall, so needed to carry out some quick remedial work.
So by the time I finished messing about I was loading the chassis onto the roof rails with a fork lift truck at 7.30 last night.
As soon as I have all the arms painted and stripped the callipers and hubs and painted them, fitted poly bushes I'll upload some pics.
Then it's engine rebuild and drivetrain fitment
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
Intermission
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Orange seems to be the fashionable colour!
Spotted by Chris Holmes at a recent Goodwood members meeting - The GMA (Gordon Murray Automotive) T.50 Niki Lauda Track Car, V12, 12,100rpm. 750hp in an 853kg car :P
"A total of 100 T.50s will be built, commencing in 2022 and priced from £2.36m before local taxes or charges."
Darn, it looks like they've all been sold ;) :))
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Orange seems to be the fashionable colour!
Spotted by Chris Holmes at a recent Goodwood members meeting - The GMA (Gordon Murray Automotive) T.50 Niki Lauda Track Car, V12, 12,100rpm. 750hp in an 853kg car :P
"A total of 100 T.50s will be built, commencing in 2022 and priced from £2.36m before local taxes or charges."
Darn, it looks like they've all been sold ;) :))
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 06:53:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 13, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
Intermission
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Orange seems to be the fashionable colour!
Spotted by Chris Holmes at a recent Goodwood members meeting - The GMA (Gordon Murray Automotive) T.50 Niki Lauda Track Car, V12, 12,100rpm. 750hp in an 853kg car :P
"A total of 100 T.50s will be built, commencing in 2022 and priced from £2.36m before local taxes or charges."
Darn, it looks like they've all been sold ;) :))
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End of Intermission :D
Welp I've always said cars should be built not bought lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 06:57:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 06:57:29 PM
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More drip feeding for Jon
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:00:51 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:00:51 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 07:05:17 PM
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 07:05:17 PM
Looks really great - I like the drip feeding too :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:18:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:18:23 PM
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New toy arrived today
Any ideas ??
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New toy arrived today
Any ideas ??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:22:46 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:22:46 PM
Emma milking kit
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:25:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:25:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:22:46 PMI'd need bigger buckets lol
Emma milking kit
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:29:52 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:29:52 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:30:47 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:30:47 PM
Electro plating kit?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:32:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:32:36 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:30:47 PMYup yup zinc n gold passivate
Electro plating kit?
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Never used one before, I used to take them to a supplier of ours and they would never charge me.....
Can't keep doing it.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:37:46 PM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:37:46 PM
Dont know how i came up with that.. never seen 1 one or used 1..lol..
But it was all the buckets 🪣 that made me think of it.
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But it was all the buckets 🪣 that made me think of it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:45:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2022, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 13, 2022, 07:37:46 PMI've used a battery charger to remove rust from the inside of a motorcycle petrol tank before
Dont know how i came up with that.. never seen 1 one or used 1..lol..
But it was all the buckets 🪣 that made me think of it.
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I'm hoping the principle is the same
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 08:57:46 PM
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2022, 08:57:46 PM
Those kits are great fun. I've zinc electro-plated quite a few FB parts now using a kit that looks just like that one.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 14, 2022, 02:51:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 14, 2022, 02:51:51 AM
Quote from: Casey on April 13, 2022, 08:57:46 PMI'll be asking you for advice when mine goes wrong then lol
Those kits are great fun. I've zinc electro-plated quite a few FB parts now using a kit that looks just like that one.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 15, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 15, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
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Looking fresh after a glass bead blast, etch primed and silver enamel.
Polybushed, just need to zinc plate the inner sleeves and bolts
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Looking fresh after a glass bead blast, etch primed and silver enamel.
Polybushed, just need to zinc plate the inner sleeves and bolts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2022, 02:40:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2022, 02:40:35 PM
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Today we're getting all scientific
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Witchcraft, well it is to get it right, as I'm sure you will know :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:52:07 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:52:07 PM
Anode n cathod...whers Emma
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2022, 08:41:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2022, 08:41:57 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220420/25709b1d20d2aade885ff1b7fdf65c7f.jpg)
Some days I doubt the route in which I took with the styling and lines of the rotus......
.... Then my confidence gets restored
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Some days I doubt the route in which I took with the styling and lines of the rotus......
.... Then my confidence gets restored
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 21, 2022, 08:04:46 AM
Post by: MattScott on April 21, 2022, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 20, 2022, 08:41:57 PMI particularly like the wheel fitment
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Some days I doubt the route in which I took with the styling and lines of the rotus......
.... Then my confidence gets restored
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2022, 05:51:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 21, 2022, 05:51:25 PM
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These uniroyals are so grippy the gravel sticks on , outside of the tread
Nothing to do with the sticker at all lol
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These uniroyals are so grippy the gravel sticks on , outside of the tread
Nothing to do with the sticker at all lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2022, 05:56:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2022, 05:56:05 PM
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So my first trial with my zinc plating kit with a gold passivate over the top.
Looks a bit straw coloured hmmmm dunno.
Suspension bolts are cooking for 2 hours at 200 degrees c to prevent hydrogen embrittlement. ...... allegedly
I just think that's postponing dinner being cooked
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So my first trial with my zinc plating kit with a gold passivate over the top.
Looks a bit straw coloured hmmmm dunno.
Suspension bolts are cooking for 2 hours at 200 degrees c to prevent hydrogen embrittlement. ...... allegedly
I just think that's postponing dinner being cooked
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 01, 2022, 07:10:11 PM
Post by: Casey on May 01, 2022, 07:10:11 PM
I found I had to leave parts in the gold passivated for a lot longer than the instructions to get a decent colour. Looks good though!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2022, 07:58:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2022, 07:58:07 PM
Quote from: Casey on May 01, 2022, 07:10:11 PMYeah I did the bolts for about 2mins instead of 10-40 secs as per instructions.
I found I had to leave parts in the gold passivated for a lot longer than the instructions to get a decent colour. Looks good though!
It looks like strong wee
Somewhere in the middle I think.
Thankfully there all hidden and it's rust prevention that's all that required
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:07:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:07:33 PM
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The build up starts !
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The build up starts !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:15:09 PM
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:15:09 PM
Suspect you know this but dont torque up your bushes til car on ground..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:16:11 PM
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:16:11 PM
What coilovers? Look fancy pants? Procomp?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:18:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:15:09 PMYup yup.
Suspect you know this but dont torque up your bushes til car on ground..
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I left my Chevy truck loose till it was on the ground.
Forgot to tighten the bottom arms up and drove it to mot station 12 months later.
Wondered why it had vague steering. The inspector said, there's my tool box, I need a piss, and I haven't seen you do anything..... be quick lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:19:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:16:11 PMProtech near you
What coilovers? Look fancy pants? Procomp?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:22:58 PM
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:22:58 PM
Quality... yep i had em on my Westy. Real easy to swap out springs etc. Massive adjustability. Only 1 locking collar? Pls fit 2 reasons for me smashing up my westy.. after corner weighting naff all pressure on the rear left collar from the spring and wound off on track. I crashed.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:22:58 PMHmmmmm 2 locking rings on mine .....
Quality... yep i had em on my Westy. Real easy to swap out springs etc. Massive adjustability. Only 1 locking collar? Pls fit 2 reasons for me smashing up my westy.. after corner weighting naff all pressure on the rear left collar from the spring and wound off on track. I crashed.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:24:27 PM
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:24:27 PM
Good.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:25:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2022, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 04, 2022, 09:24:27 PMTo me the clue is in the name
Good.
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You need 2 to "lock" together
Odd you had one.... Previous owner didn't like adjusting ????
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2022, 02:30:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2022, 02:30:58 PM
Get that back end in kid !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2022, 02:35:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2022, 02:35:37 PM
For the eagle eyed among you will know, thats an earlier RX8 diff cover on an R3 diff with the 4.7 ratio.
Picked up for literally pence years ago, but the later diff cover gets in the way of the exhaust routing .....
Picked up for literally pence years ago, but the later diff cover gets in the way of the exhaust routing .....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 06, 2022, 05:05:01 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 06, 2022, 05:05:01 PM
Looking good
Seem to coming along nicely
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Seem to coming along nicely
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2022, 09:14:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2022, 09:14:24 AM
Early doors this morning, at work for 6am, cleaning, blasting and zinc priming stock calipers.
A coat of orange on them next, soon be rolling
A coat of orange on them next, soon be rolling
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2022, 09:44:47 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2022, 09:44:47 AM
All looking great and coming together nicely. 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2022, 10:11:54 AM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2022, 10:11:54 AM
Yep. Coming along now.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
Really coming together now, and everything so clean :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2022, 05:40:13 AM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2022, 05:40:13 AM
Good job mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2022, 07:15:34 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2022, 07:15:34 AM
Very nice
Be a big milestone when it's rolling
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2022, 12:57:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2022, 12:57:17 PM
I cant deny....... As much as Im excited to get the Rotus on the road and get some track days underway.............
........ im itching to make a start on the 8 project.
Ive learnt so much during this build but there are things I would do different, but rather than swap stuff on the Rotus, I'll stick to the original plan.
The improvements can be made on the next #exciting times
........ im itching to make a start on the 8 project.
Ive learnt so much during this build but there are things I would do different, but rather than swap stuff on the Rotus, I'll stick to the original plan.
The improvements can be made on the next #exciting times
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
Patience was never my strongest quality so can understand the temptation . Will be a real achievement to see the Rotus completed given the time (and £s) you've invested in this project
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2022, 09:40:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2022, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 09:36:13 PMI don't look at the £ or I wouldn't do it lol
Patience was never my strongest quality so can understand the temptation
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 11:23:33 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 09, 2022, 09:40:42 PMProbably for the bestQuote from: MattScott on May 09, 2022, 09:36:13 PMI don't look at the £ or I wouldn't do it lol
Patience was never my strongest quality so can understand the temptation
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 06:28:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 06:28:54 PM
4 years later and finally a post on my thread rotary guys actually wanna see lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220512/fed6abd614d8ee405e29542459f8a404.jpg)
And so it begins
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2022, 07:18:18 PM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2022, 07:18:18 PM
What's that then ;) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 07:21:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: Casey on May 12, 2022, 07:18:18 PMIt's a clunkworthy converter lol
What's that then ;) :))
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2022, 07:30:29 PM
Its got a bad cold
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 07:35:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 12, 2022, 07:35:47 PM
Lol yup!
If it's completely toast I'm gonna pull the engine out my blue 8 and rebuild that. It's gonna get replaced with a PP one day anyway
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If it's completely toast I'm gonna pull the engine out my blue 8 and rebuild that. It's gonna get replaced with a PP one day anyway
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 12, 2022, 07:50:17 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 12, 2022, 07:50:17 PM
Oh, so is it a rotary? ???
I thought it was a more industrial version of one of these:
Sort of imagined you'd be putting some nice pipes on it and travel up and down the country, performing. Complete with parrot on shoulder. :D
I thought it was a more industrial version of one of these:
Sort of imagined you'd be putting some nice pipes on it and travel up and down the country, performing. Complete with parrot on shoulder. :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 14, 2022, 12:33:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 14, 2022, 12:33:15 PM
So.........
Ive torn the renesis down this morning.....to my knowledge this engine hasnt turned under its own steam for around 8 - 9 years when I bought the car as a non runner.
Theres some good, there some bad.
The plates and housings dont look too bad, I'll mic them all up later. Bit of carbon build up on the rotors and the exhaust ports.
Front and rear stat bearings are shot, so Im questioning the condition of the E shaft in these areas.
Rotors are pretty good too, but will measure these later.
Get all the parts up to spec then ill be digging the die grinder out.
Any views or comments on condition of parts is more than welcome........
Ive torn the renesis down this morning.....to my knowledge this engine hasnt turned under its own steam for around 8 - 9 years when I bought the car as a non runner.
Theres some good, there some bad.
The plates and housings dont look too bad, I'll mic them all up later. Bit of carbon build up on the rotors and the exhaust ports.
Front and rear stat bearings are shot, so Im questioning the condition of the E shaft in these areas.
Rotors are pretty good too, but will measure these later.
Get all the parts up to spec then ill be digging the die grinder out.
Any views or comments on condition of parts is more than welcome........
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 14, 2022, 12:35:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 14, 2022, 12:35:38 PM
I dunno why this computer stretches pics the wrong way grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 14, 2022, 06:44:47 PM
Post by: clive on May 14, 2022, 06:44:47 PM
Looks like you only need to clean up and measure the shaft, everything else looks OK.
Used shafts should be plentyfull, check the bore holes in the end for any cracks though
Used shafts should be plentyfull, check the bore holes in the end for any cracks though
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 14, 2022, 07:29:55 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 14, 2022, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: clive on May 14, 2022, 06:44:47 PMYou beat me to it
Looks like you only need to clean up and measure the shaft, everything else looks OK.
Used shafts should be plentyfull, check the bore holes in the end for any cracks though
I was about to say the same thing
Maybe not
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 19, 2022, 06:45:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 19, 2022, 06:45:42 PM
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Goodies from the captain
Goodies from the captain
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2022, 07:18:37 PM
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2022, 07:18:37 PM
Oooooo, nice rebuild kit, with Goopy seals too :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 19, 2022, 07:27:08 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 19, 2022, 07:27:08 PM
Xmas in May! :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 08:30:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 08:30:45 AM
Quote from: Casey on May 19, 2022, 07:18:37 PMWon't start the rebuild till after holibobs.
Oooooo, nice rebuild kit, with Goopy seals too :13:
But yeah i hear mixed views about goopy seals.
I'm not running huge hp, or any boost, they will be fine !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 03:31:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 19, 2022, 07:27:08 PMIt's Christmas everyday In my shed lol
Xmas in May! :13:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 04:40:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2022, 04:40:33 PM
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I'm sure there's a song about this .....
Or was it green bottles ?
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I'm sure there's a song about this .....
Or was it green bottles ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:46:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:46:38 PM
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I appreciate the kindness of your gift Wayne, but I think these are overkill for my application lol
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I appreciate the kindness of your gift Wayne, but I think these are overkill for my application lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 24, 2022, 05:52:57 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 24, 2022, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:46:38 PMMan I never noticed how little your hands were
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I appreciate the kindness of your gift Wayne, but I think these are overkill for my application lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:59:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:59:09 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 24, 2022, 05:52:57 PMLolllQuote from: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 05:46:38 PMMan I never noticed how little your hands were
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I appreciate the kindness of your gift Wayne, but I think these are overkill for my application lol
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Lugged the box on me Todd tho haha
These callipers are the size of a small African country lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 06:30:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 06:30:03 PM
Finally getting the wheels on.
Steels for 70s vibe.
Still plenty of clearance on 17's.
Could probably squeeze some AP 6 pots in lol :13:
Steels for 70s vibe.
Still plenty of clearance on 17's.
Could probably squeeze some AP 6 pots in lol :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 07:02:04 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 07:02:04 PM
Black steel wheels and red calipers – the colours of anarchy. Love it! :love4:
So it is a bit more than rotors and grp, then?
So it is a bit more than rotors and grp, then?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 07:22:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2022, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 07:02:04 PMOoooo must be strange picture .... Not red
Black steel wheels and red calipers – the colours of anarchy. Love it! :love4:
So it is a bit more than rotors and grp, then?
RAL2004 traffic orange
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 07:34:04 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 07:34:04 PM
Right. The false colours of anarchy, then. Still looks the part! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 11, 2022, 04:55:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 11, 2022, 04:55:07 PM
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The result of todays efforts
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2022, 04:56:22 PM
Rolling Stones....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 11, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Post by: Casey on June 11, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Looks better than new :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:29:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:29:42 PM
So I'm waiting on some engine bits, so an hour to kill before I attack the lawn
Spare 192 plates in the shed....
Gonna have a go at porting the exhaust. First stab at it. Watched plenty of vids time and again.
Opening the port sooner without breaking into the water jacket and smoothing out that shelf where the carbon always builds up.
I don't have any decent sized grinding stones so can't grind it smooth so it's what the carbide bits in the die grinder will leave behind.
I've no idea whether what I've done is good bad or indifferent. But I didn't go into the water jacket and there's a relatively smooth transition and radius going into the runner.
It's just like colouring books..... just don't go over the lines !
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Spare 192 plates in the shed....
Gonna have a go at porting the exhaust. First stab at it. Watched plenty of vids time and again.
Opening the port sooner without breaking into the water jacket and smoothing out that shelf where the carbon always builds up.
I don't have any decent sized grinding stones so can't grind it smooth so it's what the carbide bits in the die grinder will leave behind.
I've no idea whether what I've done is good bad or indifferent. But I didn't go into the water jacket and there's a relatively smooth transition and radius going into the runner.
It's just like colouring books..... just don't go over the lines !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:32:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:32:13 PM
A few more
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2022, 04:36:45 AM
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2022, 04:36:45 AM
Looking good mate!
That carbon collector place is anoying always makes you want to grind it hard and open it
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That carbon collector place is anoying
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 13, 2022, 08:13:42 AM
Post by: clive on June 13, 2022, 08:13:42 AM
Well done but don't forget to put a small chamfer to take away the sharp edges.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2022, 10:17:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 13, 2022, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: clive on June 13, 2022, 08:13:42 AM
Well done but don't forget to put a small chamfer to take away the sharp edges.
Duly noted. :13:
Ive ordered some die grinder sanding cartridges that will smooth out the carbide burr marks on it.
Then Ill do the 231 plates and get it nice and smooth then run a needle file round the holes to chamfer.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 14, 2022, 05:04:03 AM
Post by: re japi on June 14, 2022, 05:04:03 AM
Bugger, I forgot to say that. Good thing that clive remember to say it
I have small "diamond" files that are good for little detailing
Oh, and then theres one custom sandpaper thingy, that I get idea from Aston. Ill take a pic, cause its too difficult me to explain it
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I have small "diamond" files that are good for little detailing
Oh, and then theres one custom sandpaper thingy, that I get idea from Aston. Ill take a pic, cause its too difficult me to explain it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2022, 01:26:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2022, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 14, 2022, 05:04:03 AM
Bugger, I forgot to say that. Good thing that clive remember to say it
I have small "diamond" files that are good for little detailing
Oh, and then theres one custom sandpaper thingy, that I get idea from Aston. Ill take a pic, cause its too difficult me to explain it
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Ive ordered one of these
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 14, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
You didn't need these ;)
Ported all sorts of engines for years, using this device.
Take a 10mm bolt, cut the head off, then cut a 30mm slot down the end.
Buy a roll of strip emery cloth, put it down the slot, then roll it around the stud.
Stick the plain end in a drill and away you go :great:
Ported all sorts of engines for years, using this device.
Take a 10mm bolt, cut the head off, then cut a 30mm slot down the end.
Buy a roll of strip emery cloth, put it down the slot, then roll it around the stud.
Stick the plain end in a drill and away you go :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 14, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
Post by: boosted on June 14, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
Yeah made many of them. Learnt that from an old engineer during my apprenticeship.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2022, 08:06:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 14, 2022, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: clive on June 14, 2022, 07:28:34 PM
You didn't need these ;)
Ported all sorts of engines for years, using this device.
Take a 10mm bolt, cut the head off, then cut a 30mm slot down the end.
Buy a roll of strip emery cloth, put it down the slot, then roll it around the stud.
Stick the plain end in a drill and away you go :great:
To be honest, the Rotus engine isnt the only engine im going to be porting, I have lots of other car and bike projects in the pipeline so the kit will come in useful.
I could have bought the kit in the pic from over the pond for $110 with minimal parts, or the kit ive bought for less than £60 with loads in. So im quids in.
The first corner of the opening edge of the exhaust port on the renny is around a 4mm radius, so a 10mm bolt with sandpaper is gonna be too big in diameter and that crappy corner that carbon builds up on will have no chance, the tapered sanding cones will be ideal.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 14, 2022, 10:14:25 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 14, 2022, 10:14:25 PM
Canye Portmadog? :P
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 06:17:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 06:17:08 AM
Lol
No but a can stourport (home town)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 11:18:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on June 14, 2022, 10:14:25 PM
Canye Portmadog? :P
Here ya go Yngvar!
All the porting info you require! lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 15, 2022, 03:23:12 PM
Post by: re japi on June 15, 2022, 03:23:12 PM
So, I have this thingy. Old drill bit, cut slot to the tip, and slide 80 grid sandpaper in it. Works just fine, and gets to difficult places
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 03:51:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 03:51:38 PM
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Got these now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 05:58:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2022, 05:58:55 PM
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Bit more work smoothing out the work where the chatter marks have been from the carbide bits. Don't want that carbon sticking on the real ones
Try the inlet runners next. Do some port matching on the proper plates and the intake manifold.
Not going to enlarge the primaries and secondaries, want to keep the air speed quick and maintain good tick over and as much mid range torque as possible. Just give the runners a clean up or smooth out the transition from runner to port opening
Hopefully just modding the auxiliary ports and the rotating valves it will give it a more significant noticeable kick at 6500rpm upwards
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Bit more work smoothing out the work where the chatter marks have been from the carbide bits. Don't want that carbon sticking on the real ones
Try the inlet runners next. Do some port matching on the proper plates and the intake manifold.
Not going to enlarge the primaries and secondaries, want to keep the air speed quick and maintain good tick over and as much mid range torque as possible. Just give the runners a clean up or smooth out the transition from runner to port opening
Hopefully just modding the auxiliary ports and the rotating valves it will give it a more significant noticeable kick at 6500rpm upwards
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 06:10:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 06:10:07 PM
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Ok first real plates tonight
Ported one on right ...
Exhaust opening sooner.... Cleaned up shelf.
Extended the top auxiliary to say open that bit longer.
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Ok first real plates tonight
Ported one on right ...
Exhaust opening sooner.... Cleaned up shelf.
Extended the top auxiliary to say open that bit longer.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 06:15:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 06:15:17 PM
Interesting fact..... well
I didn't know anyway ...
192 on left.... 231 on right.
Not only is it just a 4 port. I.e no auxiliary
But the exhaust a lot smaller.
So when you put the same template on and grind to the scribe....., the 192 has more of a slope, and the 231 more of a rad around the water jacket
I wonder if the gains for the 192 are greater as a result or will the lack of intake still be the governing factor.....
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I didn't know anyway ...
192 on left.... 231 on right.
Not only is it just a 4 port. I.e no auxiliary
But the exhaust a lot smaller.
So when you put the same template on and grind to the scribe....., the 192 has more of a slope, and the 231 more of a rad around the water jacket
I wonder if the gains for the 192 are greater as a result or will the lack of intake still be the governing factor.....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on June 17, 2022, 07:12:28 PM
Post by: MattScott on June 17, 2022, 07:12:28 PM
I have a vague memory that someone once told me the 192 responds better to porting ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 08:06:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2022, 08:06:57 PM
Quote from: MattScott on June 17, 2022, 07:12:28 PMI wouldn't be surprised, based on the size of the exhaust.
I have a vague memory that someone once told me the 192 responds better to porting ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on June 18, 2022, 03:57:01 AM
Post by: re japi on June 18, 2022, 03:57:01 AM
Yes, LowPower exhaust is smaller. Can be done to HighPower size
I dont know what Mazda thought by doing that. I quess fuel economy
However, for those few LP engines that I have ported, owners have told me that there might be mid range torque and horses gain. With much less opening porting that you have done. So makes me wonder why didnt Mazda do it
For next engine, I really want to do same port opening that you have done. I havent have guts to do it yet
Anyhoo, looking good mate
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I dont know what Mazda thought by doing that. I quess fuel economy
However, for those few LP engines that I have ported, owners have told me that there might be mid range torque and horses gain. With much less opening porting that you have done. So makes me wonder why didnt Mazda do it
For next engine, I really want to do same port opening that you have done. I havent have guts to do it yet
Anyhoo, looking good mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:28:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 18, 2022, 03:57:01 AM
Yes, LowPower exhaust is smaller. Can be done to HighPower size
I dont know what Mazda thought by doing that. I quess fuel economy
However, for those few LP engines that I have ported, owners have told me that there might be mid range torque and horses gain. With much less opening porting that you have done. So makes me wonder why didnt Mazda do it
For next engine, I really want to do same port opening that you have done. I havent have guts to do it yet
Anyhoo, looking good mate
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
Quick update,
Ive roughed out all the necessary ports, just need a tickle and chamfer on the ports. Then clean up the transition on the runners,
Need a bit of port matching with the aid of the intake gasket. popped the engine togther with some scrap housings minus the e shaft and rotors. Not taking too much off the primaries and secondaries, keep that air speed fast.
Not doing anything to the runners themselves, but now Ive opened up the auxilary ports, i need to mod the auxilary port valves.
Pictures tell 1000 words.
Ive roughed out all the necessary ports, just need a tickle and chamfer on the ports. Then clean up the transition on the runners,
Need a bit of port matching with the aid of the intake gasket. popped the engine togther with some scrap housings minus the e shaft and rotors. Not taking too much off the primaries and secondaries, keep that air speed fast.
Not doing anything to the runners themselves, but now Ive opened up the auxilary ports, i need to mod the auxilary port valves.
Pictures tell 1000 words.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:44:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2022, 05:44:11 PM
Noticed the stationary gear assembly oil way doesnt line up with the hole in the oil way of the rear plate.
You can see the dark half circle around the outside of the hole.
Die grinder it is then !
You can see the dark half circle around the outside of the hole.
Die grinder it is then !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on June 19, 2022, 05:37:26 PM
Post by: clive on June 19, 2022, 05:37:26 PM
Have an investigate before doing anything.
From memory, isn't this the drain hole and in that case it may be offset deliberately
From memory, isn't this the drain hole and in that case it may be offset deliberately
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2022, 07:38:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 19, 2022, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: clive on June 19, 2022, 05:37:26 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220619/53878053bb7cd071895f9e8f9a4bf1f3.jpg)
Have an investigate before doing anything.
From memory, isn't this the drain hole and in that case it may be offset deliberately
Nope it goes from oil filter through the rear plate into where the rear stationary bearing is.
One of the reasons some people run a loop line from the oil filter sandwich plate to the front plate, so the front stat bearing does nt have to wait for the oil to travel all down the e shaft.
Rear stat bearing is definitely fed from that hole not drained
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2022, 08:10:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 19, 2022, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 19, 2022, 07:38:54 PMLooksQuote from: clive on June 19, 2022, 05:37:26 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220619/53878053bb7cd071895f9e8f9a4bf1f3.jpg)
Have an investigate before doing anything.
From memory, isn't this the drain hole and in that case it may be offset deliberately
Nope it goes from oil filter through the rear plate into where the rear stationary bearing is.
One of the reasons some people run a loop line from the oil filter sandwich plate to the front plate, so the front stat bearing does nt have to wait for the oil to travel all down the e shaft.
Rear stat bearing is definitely fed from that hole not drained
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You can build me a PP one next please new best buddy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 09:36:08 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 09:36:08 AM
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Scrap rotors make the perfect jig for grinding the side seals to the correct length ................. I got through 000's of junior hacksaw blades
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Scrap rotors make the perfect jig for grinding the side seals to the correct length ................. I got through 000's of junior hacksaw blades
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 05:29:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 05:29:37 PM
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I'm sure this is standard practice .....
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I'm sure this is standard practice .....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 08:56:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 08:56:52 PM
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Had the journals tarted up on the machine
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Had the journals tarted up on the machine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 08:57:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2022, 08:57:37 PM
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..... and my rotor housings
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..... and my rotor housings
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on June 21, 2022, 10:27:03 PM
Post by: MattScott on June 21, 2022, 10:27:03 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2022, 07:14:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 23, 2022, 07:14:08 PM
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Just the slip joint spring eyes to weld on
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 25, 2022, 11:17:03 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 25, 2022, 11:17:03 AM
Good progress
Don't think I could make that from toilet roll holders never mind tube
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2022, 03:25:32 PM
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2022, 03:25:32 PM
I cant get pan the pipes of piece or whatever it is out of my head.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2022, 04:31:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2022, 04:31:26 PM
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Had my lower intake vapour blasted
Shame to powder coat it
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Had my lower intake vapour blasted
Shame to powder coat it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2022, 04:32:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 25, 2022, 04:32:35 PM
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Clearancing all my side seals
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Clearancing all my side seals
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 25, 2022, 04:57:11 PM
Post by: Casey on June 25, 2022, 04:57:11 PM
Wow, that LIM looks superb, better than new :great:
That pipework is definitely a piece of art - hopefully, at least the top part will be visible to admire with the hood up :notworthy:
That pipework is definitely a piece of art - hopefully, at least the top part will be visible to admire with the hood up :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2022, 10:11:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 26, 2022, 10:11:46 AM
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Black is the new ....... Well black
Shame to cover the prestigne alloy finish, but will only oxidise over time.
Want clean finish, not tarts handbag that I'm too scared to drive
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Black is the new ....... Well black
Shame to cover the prestigne alloy finish, but will only oxidise over time.
Want clean finish, not tarts handbag that I'm too scared to drive
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 26, 2022, 10:27:39 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 26, 2022, 10:27:39 AM
Looks great! :sign0098:
Very sensible. You don't want to drive handbags. Terrible handling and no brakes! :D
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Want clean finish, not tarts handbag that I'm too scared to drive
Very sensible. You don't want to drive handbags. Terrible handling and no brakes! :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2022, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 28, 2022, 08:41:00 PM
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Well gentlemen it's back together. Paint next....
I'm not doing the plates one colour housings a different one,
All one colour so mask bits off and get the 6" roller out !!
For anyone wanting to rebuild their own engine if this is the only piece of advice I can give.....
Check, double check, and triple check your corner seal springs are aligned correctly and clean off excess super glue from the apex seals properly and clean with solvent.
I ran out of swear words this evening !!!
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Well gentlemen it's back together. Paint next....
I'm not doing the plates one colour housings a different one,
All one colour so mask bits off and get the 6" roller out !!
For anyone wanting to rebuild their own engine if this is the only piece of advice I can give.....
Check, double check, and triple check your corner seal springs are aligned correctly and clean off excess super glue from the apex seals properly and clean with solvent.
I ran out of swear words this evening !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 05:44:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 05:44:07 PM
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Turning into tarts handbag lol
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Turning into tarts handbag lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 01, 2022, 05:52:13 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 01, 2022, 05:52:13 PM
The range, the range! The Oh! Range! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 06:21:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 01, 2022, 05:52:13 PM
The range, the range! The Oh! Range! :sign0098:
Someone asked me if the paint on the body was straight out the gun or had been polished coz it was a bit orange peel.......
........... well it is authentic, it is orange
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 01, 2022, 08:09:51 PM
Post by: Casey on July 01, 2022, 08:09:51 PM
Reaching for sunglasses............. ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 01, 2022, 08:21:46 PM
Post by: boosted on July 01, 2022, 08:21:46 PM
Its not Jamies.. its Terrys..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 01, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
Post by: Casey on July 01, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 01, 2022, 08:21:46 PM
Its not Jamies.. its Terrys..
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:)) took me a couple of seconds to get that!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 09:04:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 09:04:23 PM
A friend of mine said it looks like a huge baked bean
I said a baked bean has more hp !!
I'll just leave this here
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I said a baked bean has more hp !!
I'll just leave this here
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 09:11:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 01, 2022, 09:11:10 PM
Had to colour code it ....
Chrysler hemi looks like peach
Chevy orange looks too red (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220701/1fa4419d664716c04a669c40ab17068d.jpg)
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Chrysler hemi looks like peach
Chevy orange looks too red (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220701/1fa4419d664716c04a669c40ab17068d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 02, 2022, 09:27:41 AM
Post by: clive on July 02, 2022, 09:27:41 AM
Getting there :great: Best looking RX-8 Rotor housings surfaces I have seen for ages :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 02, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 02, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
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Thanks
Shame you won't see a lot of it
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Thanks
Shame you won't see a lot of it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 02, 2022, 11:52:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 02, 2022, 11:52:41 AM
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When you're trying to measure 400 ugga duggas with a piece of 80 x 40 box and a socket welded on the end
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on July 02, 2022, 08:32:14 PM
Post by: Richnzj on July 02, 2022, 08:32:14 PM
brilliant 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 02, 2022, 10:42:09 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 02, 2022, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 02, 2022, 11:15:25 AMBut what you can see will be SHOUTING at you !
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Thanks
Shame you won't see a lot of it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2022, 06:08:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 03, 2022, 06:08:22 PM
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Would sir care for fries with his front pulley e shaft bolt??
Remember zinc plating (only on high tensile bolts) causes hydrogen embrittlement. So you hear to heat treat them prior to passivating and fitting.
With the high torque figures Mazda specify I dun want that bad boy snapping off in the end of the e shaft
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Would sir care for fries with his front pulley e shaft bolt??
Remember zinc plating (only on high tensile bolts) causes hydrogen embrittlement. So you hear to heat treat them prior to passivating and fitting.
With the high torque figures Mazda specify I dun want that bad boy snapping off in the end of the e shaft
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 03, 2022, 09:45:56 PM
Post by: Casey on July 03, 2022, 09:45:56 PM
Can I have some 2T oil on my fries please ;)
Interesting, I'll have to read up about heat treating after plating :icon_thumleft:
Interesting, I'll have to read up about heat treating after plating :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2022, 05:44:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2022, 05:44:21 AM
Quote from: Casey on July 03, 2022, 09:45:56 PMI got the info from out the instructions with the plating kit.
Can I have some 2T oil on my fries please ;)
Interesting, I'll have to read up about heat treating after plating :icon_thumleft:
WoooAhhh stop press!!!
A man ? Who reads instructions??? Well never claimed to be normal lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2022, 05:55:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2022, 05:55:25 AM
Quote from: Casey on July 03, 2022, 09:45:56 PMhttps://www.gaterosplating.co.uk/plating-support
Can I have some 2T oil on my fries please ;)
Interesting, I'll have to read up about heat treating after plating :icon_thumleft:
All the info in the link Malcolm (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220704/890afbef08d7e038aee325e199c2bad1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:10 PM
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Still too loud Matt??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:30 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:52 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 05, 2022, 09:13:31 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 05, 2022, 09:13:31 PM
Now that is proper eye candy!!! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 09:51:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 05, 2022, 09:13:31 PMWill look better fitted in the chassis, just waiting on injectors and exhaust manifold to come back
Now that is proper eye candy!!! :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
At what heat does it peel off ?
Or will you just be cruising
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 05, 2022, 10:53:24 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 05, 2022, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:10 PMWHAT
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Still too loud Matt??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 05, 2022, 10:54:44 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 05, 2022, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 05, 2022, 06:49:52 PMGonna look epic in the 'bay.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2022, 04:19:45 PM
When's is going in Jamie ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 06, 2022, 04:23:30 PM
Post by: boosted on July 06, 2022, 04:23:30 PM
Ohhh, like that alot, looks epic.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 07, 2022, 04:34:24 AM
Post by: re japi on July 07, 2022, 04:34:24 AM
What a... You dont have pink clutch
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:03:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:03:53 PM
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When's is going in Jamie ?
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Gearbox hooked up last night, that was a pig.
Clutch alignment tool was too small in diameter. There's splines on the clutch plate and splines on the tool, but when you push it in you can rotate independently of the plate.
As a result the plate wasn't 100% concentric.
2 hours later after calling it all the names under the sun. Clutch cover plate off, lined it up by eye and the torch on my phone, clunk...... in. Ffs!
Injectors turned up today having had them serviced and cleaned and tested.
Can fit them, the engine harness, upper manifold and oil filler neck.
As soon as the exhaust is back from zircotec I'll bolt that on, the last engine mount then chuck it in the chassis, then body back on
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:05:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:05:08 PM
Quote from: re japi on July 07, 2022, 04:34:24 AMNope we're men lol doing manly things lol
What a... You dont have pink clutch
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:10:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2022, 09:51:56 PMDone plenty of research on t interweb.
At what heat does it peel off ?
Or will you just be cruising
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Bryce from kindig customs who is one of the best custom places going in my opinion wrote an article to say providing the engine is oil free, clean, and been prepped properly, normal 2k automotive paint is fine.... That's all they use.
Been on plenty of forums, they all say they painted in normal paint without any issues.
I'm thinking give it a whirl, what's the worst that can happen? It will burn off?
If it gets so hot to burn paint then I don't hold out much hope for the clear omp oil lines that sit on the block. Or the wiring harness that pretty much does the same. And all that upper intake that's also trapping the hot air in that local area.
To conclude..... I'm not concerned lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on July 07, 2022, 02:16:03 PM
Post by: re japi on July 07, 2022, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:05:08 PMQuote from: re japi on July 07, 2022, 04:34:24 AMNope we're men lol doing manly things lol
What a... You dont have pink clutch
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2022, 04:12:23 PM
When putting harness on.. dont forget to secure the tail on the loom that goes to 02 neutral and reverse switch. There a hole on top of GB perfect for a cable tie.. else loom slack hangs down. Usually melting on exhaust but that wont happen on yours.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 04:23:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 04:23:07 PM
o2 wont be an issue, but yeah, pays to tie down those other 2....
I know the hole you mean, and its easy access in my bay due to the recessed bulkhead. Which in turn makes swapping oil filters easier too haha
I know the hole you mean, and its easy access in my bay due to the recessed bulkhead. Which in turn makes swapping oil filters easier too haha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 07, 2022, 05:04:39 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 07, 2022, 05:04:39 PM
Engine is a work of art. And that's a very literal union jack you got there. :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 08:03:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 07, 2022, 05:04:39 PMHaha very clever
Engine is a work of art. And that's a very literal union jack you got there. :great:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:25:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:25:05 PM
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Not sure if anyone else has ever tested oil spray nozzles.
Read the manual, use a vacuum pump to test the non return valve.
I've bought a brake bleed kit for 15 quid as the dial goes up to 66.5kpa or 500 mmhg which is the requirement. Need to hold negative pressure or not lose 20 mmhg over 1 minute.
Plus I can use the kit for bleeding my brakes lol
So found one dodgy one that potentially could be a prob. If the non return valve don't work the compression could go back up and not lubricate the internals of the housing.
I've got 4 spare from an old 192, so may have spares. At £110 plus vat each it's expensive.
It may be absolutely fine, but at this stage with it all out im not taking risks.
Im also not messing about premixing at the fuel station on a road based car. Track car only is different.
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Not sure if anyone else has ever tested oil spray nozzles.
Read the manual, use a vacuum pump to test the non return valve.
I've bought a brake bleed kit for 15 quid as the dial goes up to 66.5kpa or 500 mmhg which is the requirement. Need to hold negative pressure or not lose 20 mmhg over 1 minute.
Plus I can use the kit for bleeding my brakes lol
So found one dodgy one that potentially could be a prob. If the non return valve don't work the compression could go back up and not lubricate the internals of the housing.
I've got 4 spare from an old 192, so may have spares. At £110 plus vat each it's expensive.
It may be absolutely fine, but at this stage with it all out im not taking risks.
Im also not messing about premixing at the fuel station on a road based car. Track car only is different.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
Well the 4 spares from the 192 are even worse. Air passes quicker than I can draw the vacuum lol
Oh well on the hunt for one
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 08, 2022, 10:46:49 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 08, 2022, 10:46:49 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:25:05 PMI'm still running a oil pump but still premix a little just for safety......plus the uninitiated wonder what the f##k I'm up to
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Not sure if anyone else has ever tested oil spray nozzles.
Read the manual, use a vacuum pump to test the non return valve.
I've bought a brake bleed kit for 15 quid as the dial goes up to 66.5kpa or 500 mmhg which is the requirement. Need to hold negative pressure or not lose 20 mmhg over 1 minute.
Plus I can use the kit for bleeding my brakes lol
So found one dodgy one that potentially could be a prob. If the non return valve don't work the compression could go back up and not lubricate the internals of the housing.
I've got 4 spare from an old 192, so may have spares. At £110 plus vat each it's expensive.
It may be absolutely fine, but at this stage with it all out im not taking risks.
Im also not messing about premixing at the fuel station on a road based car. Track car only is different.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2022, 03:45:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2022, 03:45:32 AM
Quote from: MattScott on July 08, 2022, 10:46:49 PMYeah I shall premix on the first start up, the wind it back.Quote from: Jamie R on July 08, 2022, 04:25:05 PMI'm still running a oil pump but still premix a little just for safety......plus the uninitiated wonder what the f##k I'm up to
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Not sure if anyone else has ever tested oil spray nozzles.
Read the manual, use a vacuum pump to test the non return valve.
I've bought a brake bleed kit for 15 quid as the dial goes up to 66.5kpa or 500 mmhg which is the requirement. Need to hold negative pressure or not lose 20 mmhg over 1 minute.
Plus I can use the kit for bleeding my brakes lol
So found one dodgy one that potentially could be a prob. If the non return valve don't work the compression could go back up and not lubricate the internals of the housing.
I've got 4 spare from an old 192, so may have spares. At £110 plus vat each it's expensive.
It may be absolutely fine, but at this stage with it all out im not taking risks.
Im also not messing about premixing at the fuel station on a road based car. Track car only is different.
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I'm running a sohn adaptor with its own 2 litre tank of 2T, all the benefits of premixing, without the mess on the forecourt
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 10, 2022, 01:22:11 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 10, 2022, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:10:44 PMOnly kidding driveQuote from: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2022, 09:51:56 PMDone plenty of research on t interweb.
At what heat does it peel off ?
Or will you just be cruising
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Bryce from kindig customs who is one of the best custom places going in my opinion wrote an article to say providing the engine is oil free, clean, and been prepped properly, normal 2k automotive paint is fine.... That's all they use.
Been on plenty of forums, they all say they painted in normal paint without any issues.
I'm thinking give it a whirl, what's the worst that can happen? It will burn off?
If it gets so hot to burn paint then I don't hold out much hope for the clear omp oil lines that sit on the block. Or the wiring harness that pretty much does the same. And all that upper intake that's also trapping the hot air in that local area.
To conclude..... I'm not concerned lol
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Checking you have the later inlet manifold with pipe outlet to stop the oil burp ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 10, 2022, 02:47:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 10, 2022, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 10, 2022, 01:22:11 PMI've got a system that goes to catch tank when it burps then drains back down to the sump on the big wingQuote from: Jamie R on July 07, 2022, 02:10:44 PMOnly kidding driveQuote from: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2022, 09:51:56 PMDone plenty of research on t interweb.
At what heat does it peel off ?
Or will you just be cruising
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Bryce from kindig customs who is one of the best custom places going in my opinion wrote an article to say providing the engine is oil free, clean, and been prepped properly, normal 2k automotive paint is fine.... That's all they use.
Been on plenty of forums, they all say they painted in normal paint without any issues.
I'm thinking give it a whirl, what's the worst that can happen? It will burn off?
If it gets so hot to burn paint then I don't hold out much hope for the clear omp oil lines that sit on the block. Or the wiring harness that pretty much does the same. And all that upper intake that's also trapping the hot air in that local area.
To conclude..... I'm not concerned lol
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Checking you have the later inlet manifold with pipe outlet to stop the oil burp ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
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Hello !
What you doing hiding back there ?
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Hello !
What you doing hiding back there ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2022, 08:51:20 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2022, 08:51:20 AM
Nice
Just waiting on the manifold is it ?
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Just waiting on the manifold is it ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 18, 2022, 11:27:06 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 18, 2022, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 16, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
What you doing hiding back there ?
—Lurking! Ready to jump on that chassis!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2022, 12:13:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2022, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2022, 08:51:20 AMYup, hopefully today
Nice
Just waiting on the manifold is it ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 18, 2022, 12:56:32 PM
Post by: Casey on July 18, 2022, 12:56:32 PM
Great picture :great:
BTW, I'm aware there are some strange issues with the forum ATM. Some pages are refusing to load, the recents throws a error. Taking a look today. Looks like 99% of forum OK though. Will update a current topic in the "MRC Forum" area which covered the "recent" feature breakage last time....
BTW, I'm aware there are some strange issues with the forum ATM. Some pages are refusing to load, the recents throws a error. Taking a look today. Looks like 99% of forum OK though. Will update a current topic in the "MRC Forum" area which covered the "recent" feature breakage last time....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
Good news,
Manifold back today from zircotec following their 2 day shut down from the hot weather.
I spent years in the weld shop welding with 3 layers of clothing on, inside steel 1 metre cube boxes in the summer going home each day smelling like a ferret hutch ! Bloody millennials of today ..... anyway.
No photo of my exhaust until it's fitted, however I will show you my new t shirt that also come today !
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Manifold back today from zircotec following their 2 day shut down from the hot weather.
I spent years in the weld shop welding with 3 layers of clothing on, inside steel 1 metre cube boxes in the summer going home each day smelling like a ferret hutch ! Bloody millennials of today ..... anyway.
No photo of my exhaust until it's fitted, however I will show you my new t shirt that also come today !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2022, 05:31:07 PM
:)) :)) :)) loving the T!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2022, 06:19:26 PM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2022, 06:19:26 PM
Lol thats funny.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:49:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:49:55 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:50:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:50:14 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:50:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2022, 06:50:45 PM
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The eagle has landed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 22, 2022, 06:28:48 AM
Post by: boosted on July 22, 2022, 06:28:48 AM
Wow, looking good. The end is nigh.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 22, 2022, 09:51:42 AM
Post by: clive on July 22, 2022, 09:51:42 AM
Amazing :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 22, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 22, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Looks wonderful! :great:
Re: T-shirt, I'm sure good old Mauro is happy he still has some die-hard fans out there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi)
Re: T-shirt, I'm sure good old Mauro is happy he still has some die-hard fans out there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2022, 11:41:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2022, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 22, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Looks wonderful! :great:
Re: T-shirt, I'm sure good old Mauro is happy he still has some die-hard fans out there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi)
Nah I dont know her !
:))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 06:50:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 06:50:12 AM
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Well the gods are definitely looking down on me recently.
The followers will know I've recently got the engine in place. So come do do the nuts up and the one starts turning on the M10 stud. Hmmm thread has gone or the metal section is spinning in the rubber.
B*****ks !! I got people coming Saturday (today) as spare pair of eyes while body goes on.
I know, I'll back the nut off and hopefully I can get it out. It's gotta come out anyway. Nope, the stud has snapped off completely
Big deal I hear you cry. The point is over the years of this build you've seen the car elevated with the block n tackle with funny looking supports etc. Well I picked up the car via the engine which was bolted to the engine mounts which was bolted to the chassis.
Sounds dodgy but I think the engine was by far heavier than anything else so seemed logical, anyway, it could have come crashing down at any point I guess. But thankfully it didn't. Phew.
Next issue. Need some more, and I NEED them Friday. eBay is all 3 day delivery. The local motor factors don't stock Ford Capri, cortina, etc engine mounts, the cars have vanished into everyone's rose tinted memories......
Ah Amazon I've got an account and they do next day delivery. No good.....
See what google brings up.... Oooo they look similar. Bearmach???? £3.40 each? Land Rover defender... ( well they must be strong and robust for a workhorse car). Great they're in stock. Oooooo click n collect. .....Caerphilly Jesus! And they close at 15.30 and I finish work at 14.45. My Passat won't allow those kinda mind blowing licence losing times....
6 miles from mr spiller! Bora da butt!!! I need a favour. Sorted!
So I'm back on track. A few people to thank.
1 the rotus gods for keeping my car suspended
2 mr spiller for going out his way during working hours to grab my bits ( easy now not what you're thinking)
3 my arms, for always being at my side
4 my legs, for always supporting me
5 last but not least, my fingers, for .... Well, I can always count on you ....
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Well the gods are definitely looking down on me recently.
The followers will know I've recently got the engine in place. So come do do the nuts up and the one starts turning on the M10 stud. Hmmm thread has gone or the metal section is spinning in the rubber.
B*****ks !! I got people coming Saturday (today) as spare pair of eyes while body goes on.
I know, I'll back the nut off and hopefully I can get it out. It's gotta come out anyway. Nope, the stud has snapped off completely
Big deal I hear you cry. The point is over the years of this build you've seen the car elevated with the block n tackle with funny looking supports etc. Well I picked up the car via the engine which was bolted to the engine mounts which was bolted to the chassis.
Sounds dodgy but I think the engine was by far heavier than anything else so seemed logical, anyway, it could have come crashing down at any point I guess. But thankfully it didn't. Phew.
Next issue. Need some more, and I NEED them Friday. eBay is all 3 day delivery. The local motor factors don't stock Ford Capri, cortina, etc engine mounts, the cars have vanished into everyone's rose tinted memories......
Ah Amazon I've got an account and they do next day delivery. No good.....
See what google brings up.... Oooo they look similar. Bearmach???? £3.40 each? Land Rover defender... ( well they must be strong and robust for a workhorse car). Great they're in stock. Oooooo click n collect. .....Caerphilly Jesus! And they close at 15.30 and I finish work at 14.45. My Passat won't allow those kinda mind blowing licence losing times....
6 miles from mr spiller! Bora da butt!!! I need a favour. Sorted!
So I'm back on track. A few people to thank.
1 the rotus gods for keeping my car suspended
2 mr spiller for going out his way during working hours to grab my bits ( easy now not what you're thinking)
3 my arms, for always being at my side
4 my legs, for always supporting me
5 last but not least, my fingers, for .... Well, I can always count on you ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 23, 2022, 09:33:03 AM
Post by: clive on July 23, 2022, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 22, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
Looks wonderful! :great:
Re: T-shirt, I'm sure good old Mauro is happy he still has some die-hard fans out there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Baldi)
You must be as old as me to remember this guy in F1 :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
I swear i got 2 new unused landrover mounts in my garage from westy days. Engine n gearbox was on em.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2022, 11:31:01 AM
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2022, 11:31:01 AM
Brilliant bit of project recovery there Baldi ;)
Chassis with the power train in place looks stunning :sign0098:
Chassis with the power train in place looks stunning :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:32:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:32:53 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:33:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:33:09 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:33:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 11:33:46 AM
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I'm thinking orange centre caps
Thoughts ?
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I'm thinking orange centre caps
Thoughts ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2022, 11:39:03 AM
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2022, 11:39:03 AM
Oooooo, stunning!!
Not sure, but yes, I reckon some orange centre caps could work. Bit too black otherwise.
Not sure, but yes, I reckon some orange centre caps could work. Bit too black otherwise.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 23, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 23, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
Or you could dress the sidewalls with some tire wall stickers to break up the blackness?
https://tyrewallstickers.com/products/custom-design-tyre-stickers?utm_content=Facebook_UA&variant=39649864253633&utm_source=IGShopping&utm_medium=Social
Caught my eye but not used them myself.
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https://tyrewallstickers.com/products/custom-design-tyre-stickers?utm_content=Facebook_UA&variant=39649864253633&utm_source=IGShopping&utm_medium=Social
Caught my eye but not used them myself.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 01:26:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: MattScott on July 23, 2022, 12:20:37 PMStickers for tyres ? Seen it all now
Or you could dress the sidewalls with some tire wall stickers to break up the blackness?
https://tyrewallstickers.com/products/custom-design-tyre-stickers?utm_content=Facebook_UA&variant=39649864253633&utm_source=IGShopping&utm_medium=Social
Caught my eye but not used them myself.
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See how it looks at the end, there's lots of other black bits to break it up
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 01:42:34 PM
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 01:42:34 PM
Wow looking on point.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 23, 2022, 05:14:16 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 23, 2022, 05:14:16 PM
Wowsters! :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2022, 05:47:16 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2022, 05:47:16 PM
Credit to you Jamie
That's Looks amazing
Well done , I hope your proud , it's a big milestone
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That's Looks amazing
Well done , I hope your proud , it's a big milestone
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 06:12:07 PM
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2022, 06:12:07 PM
Need more piccies you teaser...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 10:03:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 23, 2022, 10:03:05 PM
Many thanks chaps
Still a longgggg way to go
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 23, 2022, 10:32:04 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 23, 2022, 10:32:04 PM
A few of these to keep you going.....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220723/ab3489d63602dbbe05adb0f0e5105add.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 25, 2022, 01:09:29 PM
Post by: clive on July 25, 2022, 01:09:29 PM
Always like conversions that could have been factory, i'm sure Mr Chapman would have approved of the work so far :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2022, 03:14:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2022, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: clive on July 25, 2022, 01:09:29 PMYes i honestly think Colin would had used a rotary at some point had he been of later generations.
Always like conversions that could have been factory, i'm sure Mr Chapman would have approved of the work so far :great:
Strangely lots of people on the Lotus Elan and +2 fb page approve too, or more than i expected anyway
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2022, 05:21:02 PM
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2022, 05:21:02 PM
Oi! More piccies. 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 25, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 25, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 25, 2022, 05:21:02 PMHe's a tease !
Oi! More piccies.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 05:14:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 05:14:25 PM
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Oi! More piccies.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 26, 2022, 05:38:29 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 26, 2022, 05:38:29 PM
Mmmmmh. Orange! :P
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 25, 2022, 05:21:02 PMDear Mr. Boosted
Oi! More piccies.
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I write to you with regards to your most recent request, albeit quite broad.
If you would like to elaborate further, maybe be more specific ; that would be pertinent to your requirements?
One will then try to meet your demand forthwith with something gurt lush.
Yours
Jambon D'Amore
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 06:00:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 06:00:54 PM
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In the meantime....
One of my least favourite stock features of the car.
The outer sill, steel member and floor pan bolted together with exposed fasteners
..... nasty
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In the meantime....
One of my least favourite stock features of the car.
The outer sill, steel member and floor pan bolted together with exposed fasteners
..... nasty
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 26, 2022, 07:24:39 PM
Post by: clive on July 26, 2022, 07:24:39 PM
Just a thought and I know it would be a pain as you would need to key the bolts and washers.
How about painting the bolts, washers and the orange "strip" in a satin black, as this would take your eye off the bolts and the lip ? .
How about painting the bolts, washers and the orange "strip" in a satin black, as this would take your eye off the bolts and the lip ? .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 08:17:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 08:17:30 PM
Quote from: clive on July 26, 2022, 07:24:39 PMAh already tackled that with the cunning use of bespoke side skirts
Just a thought and I know it would be a pain as you would need to key the bolts and washers.
How about painting the bolts, washers and the orange "strip" in a satin black, as this would take your eye off the bolts and the lip ? .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 08:20:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 08:20:35 PM
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Like so
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on July 26, 2022, 09:32:08 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 26, 2022, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 26, 2022, 08:20:35 PMToda! And magic happens....
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Like so
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 27, 2022, 08:36:23 AM
Post by: clive on July 27, 2022, 08:36:23 AM
That's better :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 06:31:35 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 06:31:35 PM
A couple of alternative solutions to the sill trauma? :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 28, 2022, 07:47:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 28, 2022, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 06:31:35 PMHmmmm lemme get back to you on that lol
A couple of alternative solutions to the sill trauma? :D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 09:30:46 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 09:30:46 PM
But the most sophisticated option is of course the Rx-2 option. ;)
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Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 07:55:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 07:55:20 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2022, 09:30:46 PMLol again, please refer to my previous correspondence
But the most sophisticated option is of course the Rx-2 option. ;)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 07:19:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 07:19:47 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 08:46:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 29, 2022, 08:46:20 PM
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Well the patient is all prepped for surgery.
You tin tops have the benefit of a nice smooth underside of the roof. I dun want to see the horrible looking chopped strand of grp when I'm inside, so will be fitting some headlining
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Well the patient is all prepped for surgery.
You tin tops have the benefit of a nice smooth underside of the roof. I dun want to see the horrible looking chopped strand of grp when I'm inside, so will be fitting some headlining
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 07, 2022, 09:29:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 07, 2022, 09:29:17 AM
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Still alive here
Just living in the shed
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Still alive here
Just living in the shed
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 10:36:37 AM
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 10:36:37 AM
Good good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 12:43:18 PM
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 12:43:18 PM
Shiny. Looking good.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 07, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
Post by: Casey on August 07, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
Looking tasty :great:
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Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 07, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 07, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 07, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
Looking tasty :great:
Watch out for hungry car enthusiasts, Jamie. Looks good enough to eat! ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:09 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:31 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:11:56 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
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Some underside shots you won't see it fern unless I've rolled it into it's roof.
The important one is this. 260 quids worth of zircoflex III and a boat load of thermotec exhaust wrap and some additional thermotec spray
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Some underside shots you won't see it fern unless I've rolled it into it's roof.
The important one is this. 260 quids worth of zircoflex III and a boat load of thermotec exhaust wrap and some additional thermotec spray
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2022, 07:26:23 PM
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2022, 07:26:23 PM
Looking fantastic mate. Its a .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 09, 2022, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: Casey on August 09, 2022, 07:46:43 PM
More great progress! Coming along nicely :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2022, 04:29:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2022, 04:29:35 PM
Afternoon chaps,
Sorry not been around, been busy trying to piece this car back together.
Doesn't look like much progress, just making sure wiring is in place, clips are on all hoses, yadda yadda
In the pit. Out the pit, in out in out shake it all about ....
Will update more pics when it looks like it's progressing
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Sorry not been around, been busy trying to piece this car back together.
Doesn't look like much progress, just making sure wiring is in place, clips are on all hoses, yadda yadda
In the pit. Out the pit, in out in out shake it all about ....
Will update more pics when it looks like it's progressing
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on August 22, 2022, 08:28:52 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 22, 2022, 08:28:52 PM
The hardest work is rarely seen
Will look forward to a flurry of pix in due course.
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Will look forward to a flurry of pix in due course.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 22, 2022, 09:47:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 22, 2022, 09:47:56 PM
Thanks for the update-------------soooooooo nice
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:12:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:12:09 PM
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New lights on.
Kev- York's recommended these, so fanx Kev wherever you are
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New lights on.
Kev- York's recommended these, so fanx Kev wherever you are
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:13:29 PM
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Her backside is very narrow
Just enough room for the number plate to squeeze between the lights
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Her backside is very narrow
Just enough room for the number plate to squeeze between the lights
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:14:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 01:14:10 PM
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Or she doesn't have a narrow backside
Just big hips
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Or she doesn't have a narrow backside
Just big hips
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 02:36:33 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 02:36:33 PM
Looks fab! This should take Mazda lingo to a new level. KODO and JINBA ITTAI make little sense without HIPS! :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 02:48:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 02:36:33 PM
Looks fab! This should take Mazda lingo to a new level. KODO and JINBA ITTAI make little sense without HIPS! :))
HIPS = Hiroshimas Intake Performance system
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 03:16:06 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 03:16:06 PM
I see. Not to be confused with Hilariously Intimate Passenger Space, then:
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Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 04:35:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on August 23, 2022, 03:16:06 PMLol sounds like just 1 seat up front
I see. Not to be confused with Hilariously Intimate Passenger Space, then:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 07:06:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 07:06:06 PM
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Added a bit of originality back in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 07:06:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 23, 2022, 07:06:52 PM
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Don't think any engine that came out of Norwich started with 13b tho
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 23, 2022, 07:43:53 PM
Post by: Casey on August 23, 2022, 07:43:53 PM
Great detail there, looking lovely :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2022, 09:23:45 AM
Post by: boosted on August 24, 2022, 09:23:45 AM
Looking great! Love the centre exit droop exhaust. Perfect for soundtest.
Wonder what its gonna sound like?
Rotus...is it a He or She ?
Or neither....just a car..
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Wonder what its gonna sound like?
Rotus...is it a He or She ?
Or neither....just a car..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2022, 03:41:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 24, 2022, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 24, 2022, 09:23:45 AMThanks Jon, look better with the diffuser on and the exhaust poking out.
Looking great! Love the centre exit droop exhaust. Perfect for soundtest.
Wonder what its gonna sound like?
Rotus...is it a He or She ?
Or neither....just a car..
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I'm not sure what it is, I'm thinking he... I don't get any feminine vibes like Ive done with my classic cars over the years
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2022, 11:49:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2022, 11:49:35 AM
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Lines !
I haven't looked at the lines of the rotus from afar for 5 years. You get very different perspective up close. It's distorts the image in your head when it's been in pieces for so long too .
I hope I like it lol
It dawned on me this morning that's the original vehicle / title was registered 50 years ago this year .
He's looking good for 50 !
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Lines !
I haven't looked at the lines of the rotus from afar for 5 years. You get very different perspective up close. It's distorts the image in your head when it's been in pieces for so long too .
I hope I like it lol
It dawned on me this morning that's the original vehicle / title was registered 50 years ago this year .
He's looking good for 50 !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 26, 2022, 06:14:41 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 26, 2022, 06:14:41 PM
Lovely lines! My gut feeling is your modifications will prove to be an improvement on the original and that the lines of the Rotus will be even lovelier. The wider HIPS will balance out those looong doors that can look a bit weird on the original car from some angles. We'll see when it comes out of the garage! Exciting!!! :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2022, 07:51:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 26, 2022, 07:51:28 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on August 26, 2022, 06:14:41 PMI hope so pal.
Lovely lines! My gut feeling is your modifications will prove to be an improvement on the original and that the lines of the Rotus will be even lovelier. The wider HIPS will balance out those looong doors that can look a bit weird on the original car from some angles. We'll see when it comes out of the garage! Exciting!!! :13:
The doors are very deceptive. In that pic the look very long. Esp in comparison to the rest of the car.
In reality the doors are tiny, the roof of the car is 47" from the floor, my 6 foot 112kg bulk struggles to bend myself in half to get in and out
See how it goes (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220826/5cdd452f2dff81b9cb0e7529bd71df40.jpg)
I'll be working on this for my next project so if the rotus looks gash I have a back up lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2022, 10:35:18 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2022, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 26, 2022, 07:51:28 PMCan't see it ever looking gash bud unless your arse is hanging out when yku get outQuote from: Eccentric shaft on August 26, 2022, 06:14:41 PMI hope so pal.
Lovely lines! My gut feeling is your modifications will prove to be an improvement on the original and that the lines of the Rotus will be even lovelier. The wider HIPS will balance out those looong doors that can look a bit weird on the original car from some angles. We'll see when it comes out of the garage! Exciting!!! :13:
The doors are very deceptive. In that pic the look very long. Esp in comparison to the rest of the car.
In reality the doors are tiny, the roof of the car is 47" from the floor, my 6 foot 112kg bulk struggles to bend myself in half to get in and out
See how it goes (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220826/5cdd452f2dff81b9cb0e7529bd71df40.jpg)
I'll be working on this for my next project so if the rotus looks gash I have a back up lol
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Must say it looks amazing
It's the finer details that make it
Well done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2022, 04:46:00 PM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2022, 04:46:00 PM
Defo gonna need a better looking owner? Is that what your trying to say Wayne?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2022, 06:38:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 28, 2022, 06:38:49 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 27, 2022, 04:46:00 PMAin't no amount of fibreglass gonna fix this mug lol
Defo gonna need a better looking owner? Is that what your trying to say Wayne?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
Nooooo not at all
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:19:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:19:28 AM
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Just need my dashboard
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:04 AM
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Rear firewall in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:48 AM
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Just need some carpet to stop glare
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Just need some carpet to stop glare
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 29, 2022, 10:17:43 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 29, 2022, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:48 AM
Just need some carpet to stop glare
Hmmm... Or vinyl, perhaps, unless you are excited by the prospect of getting the hoover all the way back there... ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 03:35:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on August 29, 2022, 10:17:43 AMQuote from: Jamie R on August 29, 2022, 06:20:48 AM
Just need some carpet to stop glare
Hmmm... Or vinyl, perhaps, unless you are excited by the prospect of getting the hoover all the way back there... ;)
Push the wife up there
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2022, 03:29:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 30, 2022, 03:29:08 PM
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Sorry yngvar
Carpet it is ......
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Sorry yngvar
Carpet it is ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2022, 06:56:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2022, 06:56:13 PM
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Added a bit more authenticity with an original spec reg plate with raised letters
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 11, 2022, 09:52:55 PM
Post by: Casey on September 11, 2022, 09:52:55 PM
That looks realky great :sign0098:
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Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 12, 2022, 09:34:07 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 12, 2022, 09:34:07 AM
Stunning! :sign0098:
(and nice mug, btw) :D
(and nice mug, btw) :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 12, 2022, 09:40:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 12, 2022, 09:40:47 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on September 12, 2022, 09:34:07 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220912/3139200f7532a04188517d0bc13fd33e.jpg)
Stunning! :sign0098:
(and nice mug, btw) :D
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2022, 09:03:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2022, 09:03:02 AM
Ok guys, need to ask....
Getting close to the first start up. So I want to run some pre- mix fuel to allow all the omp lines to fill up and the rest of the oil to do it's thing.
Can anyone recommend a good ratio..... millilitres of oil to litre of fuel.
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Getting close to the first start up. So I want to run some pre- mix fuel to allow all the omp lines to fill up and the rest of the oil to do it's thing.
Can anyone recommend a good ratio..... millilitres of oil to litre of fuel.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 05:26:25 AM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 05:26:25 AM
Mmmm. So your omp lines need priming? Mmmm.
I put in 250ml per 60l of fuel...but fresh engine and you need to get it to all bed in...so im not 100% what a good ratio would be.
Track use i went upto 400ml. Per tank.
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I put in 250ml per 60l of fuel...but fresh engine and you need to get it to all bed in...so im not 100% what a good ratio would be.
Track use i went upto 400ml. Per tank.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
Wow, first startup :P
Yep, I'd go for the equivalent of 400ml per 60 litre tankful.
Yep, I'd go for the equivalent of 400ml per 60 litre tankful.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2022, 08:44:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2022, 08:44:46 AM
That's a ratio of 150:1
Two stroke bikes ran on 50:1 but then they smoked like hell lol
and had to lubricate main bearings too.
I guess I'm only lubricating seals while the assembly lube and Vaseline burns off and the omp lines start doing their thing
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Two stroke bikes ran on 50:1 but then they smoked like hell lol
and had to lubricate main bearings too.
I guess I'm only lubricating seals while the assembly lube and Vaseline burns off and the omp lines start doing their thing
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 03:56:06 PM
You using a sohn? Red 2t is alot easier to see going up the lines...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2022, 05:05:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2022, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 17, 2022, 03:56:06 PMYes mate and yes I agree
You using a sohn? Red 2t is alot easier to see going up the lines...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Richnzj on September 17, 2022, 10:45:13 PM
Post by: Richnzj on September 17, 2022, 10:45:13 PM
I mix 130 to 1 no opm so would think that should be fine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2022, 06:43:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2022, 06:43:14 AM
Quote from: Richnzj on September 17, 2022, 10:45:13 PM
I mix 130 to 1 no opm so would think that should be fine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 21, 2022, 04:40:12 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 21, 2022, 04:40:12 PM
There's a guide somewhere , a how to fit a sign adaptor
It mentions blocking one of the breather pipes which go into the accordion so it sucks the 2 stoke through faster
Cars looking epic buddy
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It mentions blocking one of the breather pipes which go into the accordion so it sucks the 2 stoke through faster
Cars looking epic buddy
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 24, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 24, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
So fitted the rear polycarbonate screen putting the locking rubber in 3/4 of the way round and split the screen rubber. B*!~<$D
Is it beer o'clock yet ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:34 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:01 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:34 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221001/5b18d425a399e2228c4f936a5ae2cfb4.jpg)Ooh very nice dolphin tip - you're expecting flames
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:01 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221001/c17813acd496c74454023e7b026325e9.jpg)A little extra headroom
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:57:13 PM
Post by: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:46:24 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221001/d3b592ddd40a06694d085cd922e48c76.jpg)Now that is very neat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:58:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: MattScott on October 01, 2022, 12:56:01 PMNot expecting them with a renny but I have a big hole in my rx8 bumper.....Quote from: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 12:45:34 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221001/5b18d425a399e2228c4f936a5ae2cfb4.jpg)Ooh very nice dolphin tip - you're expecting flames
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So who knows lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 01:32:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 01:32:08 PM
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Nice little deflector to direct the air evenly over the radiator
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Nice little deflector to direct the air evenly over the radiator
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 01, 2022, 03:04:07 PM
Post by: Casey on October 01, 2022, 03:04:07 PM
Lovely work Jamie :sign0098:
Loving the attention to detail. Coming along really well!
Loving the attention to detail. Coming along really well!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 03:09:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 01, 2022, 03:09:33 PM
Thanks guys
Rear screen going back. Margaurd coating came off on the edge.
In a way I'm happy the rear screen rubber split last weekend as the rear screen would have stayed in place and it would have bothered me knowing the defect is there.
When the polycarbonate kit come to 800 quid I'm glad he's happy to replace, and he's offered to apply the black primer and cut the cooling holes.
Winner winner chicken dinner
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Rear screen going back. Margaurd coating came off on the edge.
In a way I'm happy the rear screen rubber split last weekend as the rear screen would have stayed in place and it would have bothered me knowing the defect is there.
When the polycarbonate kit come to 800 quid I'm glad he's happy to replace, and he's offered to apply the black primer and cut the cooling holes.
Winner winner chicken dinner
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 03, 2022, 07:51:42 PM
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New gearstick knob or stick with stock one ?
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New gearstick knob or stick with stock one ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on October 03, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
Post by: MattScott on October 03, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2022, 07:51:42 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221003/f4351594ac35eb93f9e1a6a7d3baf8cc.jpg)New knob gets my vote
New gearstick knob or stick with stock one ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2022, 08:25:30 PM
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2022, 08:25:30 PM
Yep, loving that!
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Post by: clive on October 03, 2022, 10:22:34 PM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2022, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: MattScott on October 03, 2022, 08:10:22 PMQuote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2022, 07:51:42 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221003/f4351594ac35eb93f9e1a6a7d3baf8cc.jpg)New knob gets my vote
New gearstick knob or stick with stock one ?
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Gets mine as well :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2022, 03:24:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2022, 03:24:13 PM
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For no other reason than just because
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 04, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
Post by: Casey on October 04, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
Nice touch, looks super :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2022, 05:34:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2022, 05:34:33 PM
Well either my rotor housings are filling with water coz I haven't fitted the o rings right or this koyo rad is mahooosive compared to stock.
Nearly used 13 litres of FL22.........tech specs for rx8 says 8.2 litres
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Nearly used 13 litres of FL22.........tech specs for rx8 says 8.2 litres
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 04, 2022, 05:49:43 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 04, 2022, 05:49:43 PM
ЯЄ ROTUS
Like it! As they say: The goat-legged one with the horns and the tail is in the details. :sign0098:
Like it! As they say: The goat-legged one with the horns and the tail is in the details. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:09:43 PM
Post by: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:09:43 PM
Some very nice touches going on here
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:10:55 PM
Post by: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:10:55 PM
What the hell, my post went back 7 prior posts....defo weird tapatalk stuff going on...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 05, 2022, 12:10:00 AM
Post by: Casey on October 05, 2022, 12:10:00 AM
Noted Jon, but all is OK when viewed on the forum, so it's something to do with TapaTalk.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 05, 2022, 08:33:05 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 05, 2022, 08:33:05 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 03, 2022, 07:51:42 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221003/f4351594ac35eb93f9e1a6a7d3baf8cc.jpg)Mambo ....
New gearstick knob or stick with stock one ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 05, 2022, 08:33:40 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 05, 2022, 08:33:40 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:10:55 PMWhat the hell, my post went back 7 prior posts....defo weird tapatalk stuff going on...It's happening on mine
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 05, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 05, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 05, 2022, 08:33:40 AMMine tooQuote from: boosted on October 04, 2022, 06:10:55 PMWhat the hell, my post went back 7 prior posts....defo weird tapatalk stuff going on...It's happening on mine
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Then see posts twice ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:12:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:12:59 PM
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More bits on the car means less parts on the floor
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More bits on the car means less parts on the floor
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:16:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:16:11 PM
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More originality!
3D letters on the wire mesh grill
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More originality!
3D letters on the wire mesh grill
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:17:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 22, 2022, 04:17:09 PM
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I love looking down below and admire my NACA's
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I love looking down below and admire my NACA's
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 22, 2022, 06:24:31 PM
Post by: Casey on October 22, 2022, 06:24:31 PM
Oh Wow! Looking reeeeaaally awesome Jamie :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 23, 2022, 06:08:44 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 23, 2022, 06:08:44 PM
Looks fantastic! Thanks for the update. Can't wait to see more! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2022, 06:39:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2022, 06:39:39 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2022, 06:40:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2022, 06:40:03 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 24, 2022, 08:08:42 AM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2022, 08:08:42 AM
Really getting there now, excellent work :c029:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 28, 2022, 05:36:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 28, 2022, 05:36:10 PM
So the good news......
New rear screen arrived today free of charge without any defects in the marguard coating!
They even cut the vent holes in and primered the border
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New rear screen arrived today free of charge without any defects in the marguard coating!
They even cut the vent holes in and primered the border
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 28, 2022, 05:41:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 28, 2022, 05:41:06 PM
The not so good news
I need a power bulge in the bonnet to clear the throttle body.
To be honest an easy mistake... all the dry runs of fitting the bonnet I had the spring release catches fitted on the back edge.
When I pressed down to secure it, I thought it was resistance on the springs..... turns out the bonnet was flexing over the throttle body too.
I didn't know this until I tried fitting the bonnet without the springs fitted on the back and it's stuck up in the air .... Hmmmm
Ah well these things happen. I'll just have to make it look pretty again
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I need a power bulge in the bonnet to clear the throttle body.
To be honest an easy mistake... all the dry runs of fitting the bonnet I had the spring release catches fitted on the back edge.
When I pressed down to secure it, I thought it was resistance on the springs..... turns out the bonnet was flexing over the throttle body too.
I didn't know this until I tried fitting the bonnet without the springs fitted on the back and it's stuck up in the air .... Hmmmm
Ah well these things happen. I'll just have to make it look pretty again
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 28, 2022, 07:10:37 PM
Post by: clive on October 28, 2022, 07:10:37 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2022, 03:34:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 29, 2022, 03:34:36 AM
Quote from: clive on October 28, 2022, 07:10:37 PMArrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg!Yeah I know. What is strange is how unbelievably calm I am about it all.
I must be getting old lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2022, 10:07:20 PM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2022, 10:07:20 PM
What a bummer! Shame to have to make an adjustment, but needs must.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:06:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 29, 2022, 10:07:20 PMWhat a bummer! Shame to have to make an adjustment, but needs must.I'll make it all good for now
Still got the mounds can always make another fir little money
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:06:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:06:41 PMMoulds evenQuote from: Casey on October 29, 2022, 10:07:20 PMWhat a bummer! Shame to have to make an adjustment, but needs must.I'll make it all good for now
Still got the mounds can always make another fir little money
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:07:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 30, 2022, 07:07:37 PM
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Rear screen is in
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Rear screen is in
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 30, 2022, 07:16:41 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on October 30, 2022, 07:16:41 PM
Great stuff! Always makes me happy to see that orange colour! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2022, 08:17:39 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2022, 08:17:39 PM
Just loving the pictures :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 31, 2022, 07:02:15 PM
Post by: clive on October 31, 2022, 07:02:15 PM
Thanks for the MRC dedication, that's real nice, however don't forget how we marvel at your dedication :sign0098: .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on October 31, 2022, 07:07:20 PM
Post by: clive on October 31, 2022, 07:07:20 PM
Jamie, where did you get the rear air scoopy things.
If I get around to fitting a plastic rear screen to save weight, this will be a good way of getting air out from the cabin.
If I get around to fitting a plastic rear screen to save weight, this will be a good way of getting air out from the cabin.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2022, 08:30:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 31, 2022, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: clive on October 31, 2022, 07:07:20 PMJamie, where did you get the rear air scoopy things.Hi Clive,
If I get around to fitting a plastic rear screen to save weight, this will be a good way of getting air out from the cabin.
I bought a whole set ( rear screen, door "glass" and door quarters.
The door glass come with sliders.
There's 3 options, clubman, pro and and wrc
I went middle of the road.
The rear scoops used as vents come from the same place.
All In 5mm thick with the marguard coating
Wasn't cheap at nearly 1000 for the whole kit inc vat. But the weight saving is impressive and 500 times stronger than glass at the same thickness
RX8 is closer to 1300 for the same spec for all doors and rear screen. Front screen is around 500 but you'll need steel supports as it will flex from the oncoming air and the wipers won't clear screen. The kits come msa and fia compliant
Go to
https://www.plastics4performance.com
Customer service is brilliant. Ask for Alex
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 01, 2022, 09:05:22 AM
Post by: clive on November 01, 2022, 09:05:22 AM
Thanks Jamie, I wouldn't need sides and would stay with a new glass screen. Rear would save a bit of weight.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 01, 2022, 10:33:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 01, 2022, 10:33:37 AM
Quote from: clive on November 01, 2022, 09:05:22 AMThanks Jamie, I wouldn't need sides and would stay with a new glass screen. Rear would save a bit of weight.They do sell the rear screen for the 8 separately
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 01, 2022, 02:36:11 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 01, 2022, 02:36:11 PM
Ah, Plastics4performance! Had pinned them as a backup in case my rear window would crack on removal.
Fortunately for the wallet, it didn't. ;D
Fortunately for the wallet, it didn't. ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 01, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
Post by: clive on November 01, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 01, 2022, 10:33:37 AMQuote from: clive on November 01, 2022, 09:05:22 AMThanks Jamie, I wouldn't need sides and would stay with a new glass screen. Rear would save a bit of weight.They do sell the rear screen for the 8 separately
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2022, 02:12:20 PM
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2022, 02:12:20 PM
Oh wow.
Looking Great.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 08, 2022, 05:36:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 08, 2022, 05:36:49 PM
Just a heads up............. Tapatalk appears to be functioning.
I dunno who had involvement in making this happen but thank you if it was you.
I dunno who had involvement in making this happen but thank you if it was you.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2022, 06:00:05 PM
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2022, 06:00:05 PM
Yep, I finally managed to make contact with the support team at Tapatalk in the last few days and they fixed something at their end which has sorted the problem. Tapatalk seems to be OK, but not sure if there is an issue still with out of sequence posts? Looks OK to me, but Jon thinks there is still a problem? More info on that would be useful.
All issues/problems following forum upgrade are on here: https://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=85381.30
I'm gradually ironing them out....................
All issues/problems following forum upgrade are on here: https://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=85381.30
I'm gradually ironing them out....................
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 08, 2022, 06:07:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 08, 2022, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: Casey on November 08, 2022, 06:00:05 PMYep, I finally managed to make contact with the support team at Tapatalk in the last few days and they fixed something at their end which has sorted the problem. Tapatalk seems to be OK, but not sure if there is an issue still with out of sequence posts? Looks OK to me, but Jon thinks there is still a problem? More info on that would be useful.
All issues/problems following forum upgrade are on here: https://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=85381.30
I'm gradually ironing them out....................
Hi Malcolm, not so much out of sequence, but what appears to be happening is tapatalk takes, for instance, the last 10 posts of each topic and repeats them again...... hopefully that make sense.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2022, 07:03:07 PM
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2022, 07:03:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 08, 2022, 06:07:21 PMHi Malcolm, not so much out of sequence, but what appears to be happening is tapatalk takes, for instance, the last 10 posts of each topic and repeats them again...... hopefully that make sense.
Hmm, maybe I'm looking at a different Tapatalk view then? I just did a side-by-side comparison of this topic with this post being numbered #2601 on the forum (viewed via Chrome). It will show as post #2602 when viewed on Tapatalk though, as on the forum (Chrome) the very first post is #0, but it's #1 on Tapatalk. So exactly the same posts displayed, in the correct order, no duplications, but a "step" error of one, due to numbering differences.
I can't see any repetition though?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:06:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:06:49 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/e3d02e9fb42d43b2c1682227b3606807.jpg)
About another 200 quids with of zircoflex going under the bonnet
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About another 200 quids with of zircoflex going under the bonnet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:07:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:07:15 PM
Notice the grp repair from the hole cut ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
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So I was contacted by zircotec yesterday by their marketing team.
They were aware I've purchased all 3 forms they offer. Pic above shows ceramic coating, zircoflex form and zircoflex .
They feel I would make a good case study. Asked lots of questions about the build and asked if I was a member of any car groups.
Of course had to mention MRC. They may be in touch ?!?
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So I was contacted by zircotec yesterday by their marketing team.
They were aware I've purchased all 3 forms they offer. Pic above shows ceramic coating, zircoflex form and zircoflex .
They feel I would make a good case study. Asked lots of questions about the build and asked if I was a member of any car groups.
Of course had to mention MRC. They may be in touch ?!?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 09, 2022, 08:17:48 PM
Post by: Casey on November 09, 2022, 08:17:48 PM
It will be interesting to see if Zircotec do follow through with the Rotus as a case study. As you say, using all their products with a high EGT engine in a tight space with fibreglass body. Got to be good evidence there of how good their technology performs!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: Casey on November 09, 2022, 08:17:48 PMIt will be interesting to see if Zircotec do follow through with the Rotus as a case study. As you say, using all their products with a high EGT engine in a tight space with fibreglass body. Got to be good evidence there of how good their technology performs!Bit embarrassing for them if it catches fire lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 10, 2022, 09:43:46 AM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2022, 09:43:46 AM
From the experiences with the race car, you will be fine
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on November 14, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 14, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 09, 2022, 10:13:54 PMQuote from: Casey on November 09, 2022, 08:17:48 PMIt will be interesting to see if Zircotec do follow through with the Rotus as a case study. As you say, using all their products with a high EGT engine in a tight space with fibreglass body. Got to be good evidence there of how good their technology performs!Bit embarrassing for them if it catches fire lol
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Not even in gest Mister Roberts !!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2022, 11:19:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2022, 11:19:55 AM
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Modified bonnet painted and refitted
Not what I originally intended
, but it gets it on the road while I make a replacement
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Modified bonnet painted and refitted
Not what I originally intended
, but it gets it on the road while I make a replacement
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2022, 11:20:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2022, 11:20:24 AM
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Mr angry eyes
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2022, 01:12:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2022, 01:12:05 PM
Looks amazing JAmie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on November 26, 2022, 05:46:23 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 26, 2022, 05:46:23 PM
Looking great 
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 26, 2022, 06:56:52 PM
Post by: Casey on November 26, 2022, 06:56:52 PM
Awesome Jamie :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on November 26, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 26, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
Quote from: MattScott on November 26, 2022, 05:46:23 PMLooking greatFeeling suitably stupid...
need to be more carefully with emojis on a small screen!No offense meant Mister R
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 12:10:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 12:10:22 PM
None taken
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2022, 04:37:50 PM
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2022, 04:37:50 PM
Looking epic...i reckon 2023 gonna be on the road...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
Yeah get it running on road for the early spring.
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Boot lid not bolted down, but you get the gist
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Boot lid not bolted down, but you get the gist
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 04:40:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 04:40:30 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 05:03:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 27, 2022, 05:03:36 PM
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More stuff
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More stuff
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on November 27, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
Post by: clive on November 27, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
Brilliant, so aggressive :angryfire:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on November 27, 2022, 08:42:52 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 27, 2022, 08:42:52 PM
Will be epic to see you rock up at an Elan owners club meet in her brapping away
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 28, 2022, 09:23:08 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 28, 2022, 09:23:08 AM
That should raise some hairs and toupés! I'd like to witness that! :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2022, 05:53:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2022, 05:53:21 PM
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From that advert in the 80s with Fry and Laurie
Compact and bijou, mostyn.... Compact and bijou !
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From that advert in the 80s with Fry and Laurie
Compact and bijou, mostyn.... Compact and bijou !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 29, 2022, 07:32:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 29, 2022, 07:32:58 PM
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After all the bits I've achieved I'm pleased as hell the stock rx8 glove box fits and operates as it should lol
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After all the bits I've achieved I'm pleased as hell the stock rx8 glove box fits and operates as it should lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on November 29, 2022, 07:36:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 29, 2022, 07:36:51 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221129/b17713e81bf6c844160bcf8ec1b68db0.jpg)it
Got my Christmas lights up.
And if I can't tell I've got low oil pressure then I need dragging to one side and beating
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Got my Christmas lights up.
And if I can't tell I've got low oil pressure then I need dragging to one side and beating
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on November 29, 2022, 08:45:59 PM
Post by: Casey on November 29, 2022, 08:45:59 PM
Blimey, you can't miss that ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 29, 2022, 09:46:52 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 29, 2022, 09:46:52 PM
Blimey! It's like one of those flashing photo boxes that send you right into the woods! :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on November 29, 2022, 10:13:18 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 29, 2022, 10:13:18 PM
You'll catch a sun tan from that
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 03, 2022, 07:37:41 PM
Post by: MattScott on December 03, 2022, 07:37:41 PM
Your colour scheme is catching on (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221203/d9cbebda716d3658533e8e81e1411347.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2022, 06:32:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 04, 2022, 06:32:13 AM
Quote from: MattScott on December 03, 2022, 07:37:41 PMYour colour scheme is catching onLegendary see lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
So..........
Not really posted anything worthwhile for ages, time for a big update.
Well, the Rotus runs! Well for 3 secs at a time. Most people will know about disconnecting the battery and the ecu loses partial memory on e shaft and fuel trimming etc. Well we think we got that scenario.
Firstly i need to thank Jon for being there for me multiple times over the weekend to try and sort the obvious items. Also shout out to Malcolm confirming our suspicions.
Items we have checked to rule out to understand why it wont run longer than 3 secs
1, Fuel pressure maintains 4 bar on position 2 on key and 4 bar on cranking engine.
2, no obvious signs of coolant or other oddities in the chamber on this new build.
3, Changed MAF
4, Changed E shaft sensor
5, Changed Barometric sensor,
6, verified all ignition coils have correct wiring plugs
7, verified all injectors have have correct wiring plugs..
8, verified all relevant fuses and relays are working as they should
Onto brass tacks ... namely the 20 brake stomp test / ECU re learn.
Looking at the wiring diagram there are 4 wires that go to the back of the brake pedal switch to the ECU and its grounded out when pressed, first pic attached.
The R/G wire goes from the pedal to the ECU and when position 2 on the key is activated then you have 8 sec to carry out 20 stomps for the oil gauge to do a sweep and youre ready to start the engine and it will do its thing.
1 problem, my Rotus only has 2 wires not 4, So does my other RX8 and so does Malcolms RX8. Oh Mazda you sneaky buggers.
Now ive done the stomp test successfully on my RX8 and so has Malcolm, so the only logical eplanation is the ABS unit detects the stomps when pressure is applied and send a signal down the canbus to the ECU which in turn sends a signal to the binnacle for the oil gauge to do its sweep.
BRILLIANT !!
second problem, Im not running the stock ABS system.
Observe second picture with the mad professor on the computer with my old ABS unit on the desk hooked up to the micro processor.
Long story cut short, there are 2 main power wires which weve hooked up, an ignition wire which is sorted, the 2 x earths AND the canbus wires.
So on "start up" we can see the ABS unit powering up drawing 0.3 amps, hear the solenoid kick in and it "SHOUTS" a lot!
Its shouts down the canbus messages from the wheels sensors amongst or codes pertaining to the DSC light coming on etc..... to the tune of 200 codes a second !!!
So I have a request, does ANYBODY know, or know a Mazda tech guy, who knows the code thats spat down the canbus for the 20 stomp or the oil gauge sweep???? It will save us sooooo much time.
We need to lie to the ECU and get the gauge to do its thing so we can do the ECU re-learn or the Rotus may never see the road.
F00AAB2E-B4B5-4DCF-916F-9A47F4AFEFCA.JPGIMG_2912.jpg Thanks in advance
J
Not really posted anything worthwhile for ages, time for a big update.
Well, the Rotus runs! Well for 3 secs at a time. Most people will know about disconnecting the battery and the ecu loses partial memory on e shaft and fuel trimming etc. Well we think we got that scenario.
Firstly i need to thank Jon for being there for me multiple times over the weekend to try and sort the obvious items. Also shout out to Malcolm confirming our suspicions.
Items we have checked to rule out to understand why it wont run longer than 3 secs
1, Fuel pressure maintains 4 bar on position 2 on key and 4 bar on cranking engine.
2, no obvious signs of coolant or other oddities in the chamber on this new build.
3, Changed MAF
4, Changed E shaft sensor
5, Changed Barometric sensor,
6, verified all ignition coils have correct wiring plugs
7, verified all injectors have have correct wiring plugs..
8, verified all relevant fuses and relays are working as they should
Onto brass tacks ... namely the 20 brake stomp test / ECU re learn.
Looking at the wiring diagram there are 4 wires that go to the back of the brake pedal switch to the ECU and its grounded out when pressed, first pic attached.
The R/G wire goes from the pedal to the ECU and when position 2 on the key is activated then you have 8 sec to carry out 20 stomps for the oil gauge to do a sweep and youre ready to start the engine and it will do its thing.
1 problem, my Rotus only has 2 wires not 4, So does my other RX8 and so does Malcolms RX8. Oh Mazda you sneaky buggers.
Now ive done the stomp test successfully on my RX8 and so has Malcolm, so the only logical eplanation is the ABS unit detects the stomps when pressure is applied and send a signal down the canbus to the ECU which in turn sends a signal to the binnacle for the oil gauge to do its sweep.
BRILLIANT !!
second problem, Im not running the stock ABS system.
Observe second picture with the mad professor on the computer with my old ABS unit on the desk hooked up to the micro processor.
Long story cut short, there are 2 main power wires which weve hooked up, an ignition wire which is sorted, the 2 x earths AND the canbus wires.
So on "start up" we can see the ABS unit powering up drawing 0.3 amps, hear the solenoid kick in and it "SHOUTS" a lot!
Its shouts down the canbus messages from the wheels sensors amongst or codes pertaining to the DSC light coming on etc..... to the tune of 200 codes a second !!!
So I have a request, does ANYBODY know, or know a Mazda tech guy, who knows the code thats spat down the canbus for the 20 stomp or the oil gauge sweep???? It will save us sooooo much time.
We need to lie to the ECU and get the gauge to do its thing so we can do the ECU re-learn or the Rotus may never see the road.
F00AAB2E-B4B5-4DCF-916F-9A47F4AFEFCA.JPGIMG_2912.jpg Thanks in advance
J
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2022, 04:41:56 PM
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2022, 04:41:56 PM
Jamie, would you like me to raise this, on your behalf, over on the RX-8 OC?
I've not checked the wiring diagram yet (hopefully will get to look later today) and will look to see if the brake switch/lights are connected to the ECU in any way, with the 2 pin brake switch build. It seems very overly complex to detect the stomping via the ABS unit and then CAN bus signals. Not impossible, of course, we are talking Mazda here!
I've not checked the wiring diagram yet (hopefully will get to look later today) and will look to see if the brake switch/lights are connected to the ECU in any way, with the 2 pin brake switch build. It seems very overly complex to detect the stomping via the ABS unit and then CAN bus signals. Not impossible, of course, we are talking Mazda here!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 05:21:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 05:21:49 PM
If you could that would be great.
Im pretty postive looking at the wiring that its true as the two wires from the pedal go to a noise filter. the black/blue wire and black/red terminate at the filter that cleans the electrical signals then a black yellow wire go to
Rear brake lights x 3
Auto transmission if fitted
ABS
DSC
Theres no other connection from the pedal to the ECU other than the canbus wires from the ABS.
Further to my previous post, we have found out that the ABS is actually more noisy than we has thought. As a safety feature, just the wheel speed sensor codes alone, 1 code is spat down the bus every 20 milliseconds and the other codes shouts at 4 every millisecond.
Its a very busy unit indeed!
Im pretty postive looking at the wiring that its true as the two wires from the pedal go to a noise filter. the black/blue wire and black/red terminate at the filter that cleans the electrical signals then a black yellow wire go to
Rear brake lights x 3
Auto transmission if fitted
ABS
DSC
Theres no other connection from the pedal to the ECU other than the canbus wires from the ABS.
Further to my previous post, we have found out that the ABS is actually more noisy than we has thought. As a safety feature, just the wheel speed sensor codes alone, 1 code is spat down the bus every 20 milliseconds and the other codes shouts at 4 every millisecond.
Its a very busy unit indeed!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2022, 06:05:31 PM
Post by: Casey on December 05, 2022, 06:05:31 PM
Give me a call Jamie. I have some ideas from the Spin Doctor on the RX-8 OC that are worth checking out.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 05, 2022, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2022, 07:10:46 PM
OK, Just a thought, back to basics/
I have a feeling that because the ECU is seeing wrong information, the immobiliser is cutting in.
3 seconds is about the right time for the fuel system to lose fuel pressure if the fuel pump is shutting down.
So two things, do you know the pump is running correctly, also with the race car we had to give the pump a full 12Volts and not the soppy initial 5 volts.
Next up, are you sure you still have power going to the coils after start up.
Lastly, can you hear the throttle resetting itself when turning on the ignition as I have the feeling if the ECU is not receiving the information correctly it wont let engine run for long.
If it was me I would be inclined to false feed both the pump and the coils with 12Volt feeds and see what you get.
p.s. I did try and phone back Friday.
I have a feeling that because the ECU is seeing wrong information, the immobiliser is cutting in.
3 seconds is about the right time for the fuel system to lose fuel pressure if the fuel pump is shutting down.
So two things, do you know the pump is running correctly, also with the race car we had to give the pump a full 12Volts and not the soppy initial 5 volts.
Next up, are you sure you still have power going to the coils after start up.
Lastly, can you hear the throttle resetting itself when turning on the ignition as I have the feeling if the ECU is not receiving the information correctly it wont let engine run for long.
If it was me I would be inclined to false feed both the pump and the coils with 12Volt feeds and see what you get.
p.s. I did try and phone back Friday.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 08:00:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2022, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2022, 07:10:46 PMOK, Just a thought, back to basics/
I have a feeling that because the ECU is seeing wrong information, the immobiliser is cutting in.
3 seconds is about the right time for the fuel system to lose fuel pressure if the fuel pump is shutting down.
So two things, do you know the pump is running correctly, also with the race car we had to give the pump a full 12Volts and not the soppy initial 5 volts.
Next up, are you sure you still have power going to the coils after start up.
Lastly, can you hear the throttle resetting itself when turning on the ignition as I have the feeling if the ECU is not receiving the information correctly it wont let engine run for long.
If it was me I would be inclined to false feed both the pump and the coils with 12Volt feeds and see what you get.
p.s. I did try and phone back Friday.
Hi Clive,
All valid points, so to recap. Fuel pump is great and runs tip top at 4 bar can confirm more in a sec.
The butterfly on the throttle is moving as it should, it fully closes on start up then slightly opens for tick over, and fopens fully with pedal pressed, I stuck my phone on video in front of the throttle body whilst i did that. When the engine dies, i put my foot on trhe throttle and it fully opens, so the relay still working.
As for 5V, I bypassed the low power relay as per jons instructions a while back. It only runs on 12v.
Had the car running tonight for about 50 secs but only by blipping the throttle. Its definately mapping as it ran for that period of time at 4 bar of fuel pressure and the immobilser question I verified at the weekend, so not that.
Its running rough as a dogs arse for that peroid of time, but running is running. The neutral switch and the clutch switch work too.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
https://zircotec.com/motorsport/resources/news/one-of-a-kind-1972-lotus-elan-2-build/
A few errors on their parrt on the write up....... but hey ho
A few errors on their parrt on the write up....... but hey ho
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 09:55:30 AM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:48:17 AMhttps://zircotec.com/motorsport/resources/news/one-of-a-kind-1972-lotus-elan-2-build/OK you may not be 100% happy but it is recognition of all your hard work.
A few errors on their parrt on the write up....... but hey ho
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 09:56:12 AM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 09:56:12 AM
So did the fuel pressure drop and the engine then stop ?
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:56:49 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:56:49 AM
Glad it mentions the MRC though :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:57:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:57:52 AM
Nope fuel pressure gauge read 4 bar for the entirety of it running
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 06, 2022, 03:36:56 PM
Post by: MattScott on December 06, 2022, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: clive on December 06, 2022, 09:55:30 AMWot no mug shot of the mad professor ?? !!Quote from: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 09:48:17 AMhttps://zircotec.com/motorsport/resources/news/one-of-a-kind-1972-lotus-elan-2-build/OK you may not be 100% happy but it is recognition of all your hard work.
A few errors on their parrt on the write up....... but hey ho
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 06, 2022, 04:48:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 06, 2022, 04:48:48 PM
It's all progress Jamie
It's getting there
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 05:26:00 PM
OK you have fuel, do you know you have spark is it disappearing and stopping the engine.
To find out if its disappearing I swear by these so I can see what's going on.
I hope this may help
To find out if its disappearing I swear by these so I can see what's going on.
I hope this may help
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 07:10:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 07:10:31 PM
Brand new (less than 500 miles ) Rev C coils fitted, new spark plugs, the fact i had it running for around 50 secs would suggest its firing no problem.
No error codes on OBD2 scanner apart from no comms to ABS, thats obviously coz its not fitted.
No error codes on OBD2 scanner apart from no comms to ABS, thats obviously coz its not fitted.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 08:15:03 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2022, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 07:10:31 PMBrand new (less than 500 miles ) Rev C coils fitted, new spark plugs, the fact i had it running for around 50 secs would suggest its firing no problem.
No error codes on OBD2 scanner apart from no comms to ABS, thats obviously coz its not fitted.
OK, So is the engine now keeping running and just lumpy ?
Just a thought, have you been soldering any engine loom connections as I know if they are not just crimped the loom will throw a hissy fit.
Just in case its causing issues, do you still have the ABS unit you can connect back into the wiring loom as these are paired to to ECU.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 08:52:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 08:52:11 PM
No solder involved all decent crimps from USA.
Yes I have the abs unit, photo of it on previous posts
Tomorrow I'm ruling out intake by bolting on stock intake in a make shift style
And then Malcolm will owe me a pint lol
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Yes I have the abs unit, photo of it on previous posts
Tomorrow I'm ruling out intake by bolting on stock intake in a make shift style
And then Malcolm will owe me a pint lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 08:53:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: clive on December 06, 2022, 08:15:03 PMNo it wants to die, it won't run unless I blip the throttleQuote from: Jamie R on December 06, 2022, 07:10:31 PMBrand new (less than 500 miles ) Rev C coils fitted, new spark plugs, the fact i had it running for around 50 secs would suggest its firing no problem.
No error codes on OBD2 scanner apart from no comms to ABS, thats obviously coz its not fitted.
OK, So is the engine now keeping running and just lumpy ?
Just a thought, have you been soldering any engine loom connections as I know if they are not just crimped the loom will throw a hissy fit.
Just in case its causing issues, do you still have the ABS unit you can connect back into the wiring loom as these are paired to to ECU.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2022, 08:55:39 PM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2022, 08:55:39 PM
Fuel pressure gauge is seperate to regulator and downstream b4 fuel rails and constant 4 bar. I thought fuel tbh.
Pretty much everything has been verified good.
Car is generating no circuit codes so i think wiring good. just a few u codes lost comms with abs.
Wouldnt mine Jamie swapping ecu and associated immob stuff from his blue car. A known running ecu.
Car parts were from a non running donor so would rule out ecu ( pcm).
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Pretty much everything has been verified good.
Car is generating no circuit codes so i think wiring good. just a few u codes lost comms with abs.
Wouldnt mine Jamie swapping ecu and associated immob stuff from his blue car. A known running ecu.
Car parts were from a non running donor so would rule out ecu ( pcm).
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:23:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:23:25 AM
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Well Malcolm I owe you a pint !
It ticks over at a steady 2000 rpm
I've have to do a de flood as I turned it off after 10 sec as it needed a clean from grime and there's no vacuum pipes.
But wait !!!! before I reinvent the wheel I've just thought of something ..... hahaha what a twat !
The maf sensor on my original intake set up is mounted back to front. Lollllllllllllll
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Well Malcolm I owe you a pint !
It ticks over at a steady 2000 rpm
I've have to do a de flood as I turned it off after 10 sec as it needed a clean from grime and there's no vacuum pipes.
But wait !!!! before I reinvent the wheel I've just thought of something ..... hahaha what a twat !
The maf sensor on my original intake set up is mounted back to front. Lollllllllllllll
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:24:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:24:21 AM
So I may only have to make a new maf housing !!!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2022, 06:46:58 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2022, 06:46:58 AM
I cant resist...
Lets welcome our newest member to the Forum...
MAFFEW.
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Lets welcome our newest member to the Forum...
MAFFEW.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:51:27 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:51:27 AM
For anyone who doesn't understand the joke from mr knobhead..... lol
Jon shared a pic of that guy due to the uncanny resemblance to me
Albeit I'm slimmer and my teeth are whiter lol
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Jon shared a pic of that guy due to the uncanny resemblance to me
Albeit I'm slimmer and my teeth are whiter lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2022, 08:04:56 AM
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2022, 08:04:56 AM
:sign0098: brilliant news :occasion14: ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2022, 08:10:06 AM
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2022, 08:10:06 AM
Just need another power bulge in the bonnet to fit that ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 07, 2022, 08:40:44 AM
Post by: MattScott on December 07, 2022, 08:40:44 AM
Great news that it's something simple to fix
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 07, 2022, 08:57:07 AM
Post by: clive on December 07, 2022, 08:57:07 AM
What do you mean shared a pic ::) , So pleased you told us ----------------- I thought that was you at a glance :violent1:
Anyway, back to the car, sounds like its over fuelling. Jamie recheck the injector wiring by checking colours as I have know a couple of people who do this for a living get the plugs mixed up, firing the secondary's on tickover !!!!!
Anyway, back to the car, sounds like its over fuelling. Jamie recheck the injector wiring by checking colours as I have know a couple of people who do this for a living get the plugs mixed up, firing the secondary's on tickover !!!!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 11:17:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 11:17:47 AM
Clive,
you really need to read posts fully lol
Ive sorted it
you really need to read posts fully lol
Ive sorted it
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 07, 2022, 02:16:06 PM
Post by: clive on December 07, 2022, 02:16:06 PM
You mean selective reading doesn't always work then ::) .
Real pleased the car is happy now, even though you had all the right parts, but not necessarily in the right order Mr Previn ;)
Real pleased the car is happy now, even though you had all the right parts, but not necessarily in the right order Mr Previn ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 07, 2022, 03:15:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 07, 2022, 03:15:42 PM
Fantastic news Jamie
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 04:02:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: clive on December 07, 2022, 02:16:06 PMYou mean selective reading doesn't always work then ::) .
Real pleased the car is happy now, even though you had all the right parts, but not necessarily in the right order Mr Previn ;)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 07, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
So, turned the MAF around and kept in original place.
Ran up to temp, well a third of the way on the temp gauge.
Not revved above 3k but just blipped the throttle ticks over lovely at 1100rpm and about 45psi on tickover.
Slightly blowy exhaust on the slip joints, im hoping the carbon will seal that over time.
Need a diff oil light warning switch as im blinded at 45 psi.
Still 1 fault code, ABS .... who cares.
This sunday connect the speedo micro processor to the CANBUS and all thats left is everything else.
My first car engine rebuild, let alone port work. A friend of mine outside of the car scene congratulated me this eveing and said I was extremely clever. I said no! ive just got good friends.
I wouldnt have been able to do any of this without the help of you guys, so thanks to all on MRC. :occasion14:
Ran up to temp, well a third of the way on the temp gauge.
Not revved above 3k but just blipped the throttle ticks over lovely at 1100rpm and about 45psi on tickover.
Slightly blowy exhaust on the slip joints, im hoping the carbon will seal that over time.
Need a diff oil light warning switch as im blinded at 45 psi.
Still 1 fault code, ABS .... who cares.
This sunday connect the speedo micro processor to the CANBUS and all thats left is everything else.
My first car engine rebuild, let alone port work. A friend of mine outside of the car scene congratulated me this eveing and said I was extremely clever. I said no! ive just got good friends.
I wouldnt have been able to do any of this without the help of you guys, so thanks to all on MRC. :occasion14:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2022, 06:33:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 08, 2022, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 21, 2022, 04:40:12 PMThere's a guide somewhere , a how to fit a sign adaptor#
It mentions blocking one of the breather pipes which go into the accordion so it sucks the 2 stoke through faster
Cars looking epic buddy
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Yup just looking for that lol Ryan rotary said stick ya thumb over the vacuum pipe going to the omp nozzles.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 08, 2022, 09:20:11 PM
Post by: MattScott on December 08, 2022, 09:20:11 PM
Epic - you'll be road testing before you know it - assuming thie predicted snow stays away!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2022, 08:49:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 13, 2022, 08:49:42 AM
Thanks for the mention on the newsletter !!
I cant wait to see this on the road and track too.
So quick update..... my homemade sump still leaks...... i think it twisted out of shape from the heat of welding, then when ive bolted it to the engine, the block has pulled it straight.
with stainless being more brittle than mild steel I think i have hairline cracks in various places as its made up of about 15 seperate items.
Great idea on paper, but put that one down to experience. I could have tried to make another but i want it on the road now. However, perfect timing, "Emma I want a sump for Chhristmas !"
I cant wait to see this on the road and track too.
So quick update..... my homemade sump still leaks...... i think it twisted out of shape from the heat of welding, then when ive bolted it to the engine, the block has pulled it straight.
with stainless being more brittle than mild steel I think i have hairline cracks in various places as its made up of about 15 seperate items.
Great idea on paper, but put that one down to experience. I could have tried to make another but i want it on the road now. However, perfect timing, "Emma I want a sump for Chhristmas !"
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2022, 06:42:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2022, 06:42:41 AM
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Shot of the inside..... I've got the windage tray too
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Shot of the inside..... I've got the windage tray too
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2022, 06:43:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 20, 2022, 06:43:38 AM
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Draining board Clive ? Lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 20, 2022, 05:49:16 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 20, 2022, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 20, 2022, 06:42:41 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221220/a02666f30b189f866e8863b75a400ea3.jpg)Yum! Fancy cooking a good lasagna now! :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
Post by: boosted on December 20, 2022, 06:30:13 PM
I thought ZZ top TV dinners when i seen it.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2022, 04:09:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2022, 04:09:27 PM
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What a pig of a job!!!!
That sump would be easy to fit on stock rx8
But guiding it between chassis and bellhousing and aligning baffle plate grrrr
If I had £1 for every time that o ring moved out of position I would have had the sump for free.
As this build is the precursor for the Carbon8 is tiny details like I've struggle with that I can design out of the next.
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What a pig of a job!!!!
That sump would be easy to fit on stock rx8
But guiding it between chassis and bellhousing and aligning baffle plate grrrr
If I had £1 for every time that o ring moved out of position I would have had the sump for free.
As this build is the precursor for the Carbon8 is tiny details like I've struggle with that I can design out of the next.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2022, 04:10:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 21, 2022, 04:10:45 PM
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At least the NACA duct will do a sterling job on those sump cooling fins
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At least the NACA duct will do a sterling job on those sump cooling fins
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 21, 2022, 05:22:18 PM
Post by: Casey on December 21, 2022, 05:22:18 PM
That looks really great :sign0098:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on December 22, 2022, 10:41:46 AM
Post by: MattScott on December 22, 2022, 10:41:46 AM
And at least it's stopped leaking
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:32:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:32:11 PM
Quick update
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Windscreen in yesterday
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Windscreen in yesterday
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:32:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:32:46 PM
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Doors on today
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:34:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:34:39 PM
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Sliders on side glass to fit,
Trim pieces
Mirrors
Side skirts
Underfloor
Erm done
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Sliders on side glass to fit,
Trim pieces
Mirrors
Side skirts
Underfloor
Erm done
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on December 28, 2022, 05:36:07 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2022, 05:36:07 PM
Really getting there now-------------------definition of doors---------- something to stop Jamie's beard blowing about ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:36:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:36:41 PM
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Oh yeah some seats n harnesses would help
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Oh yeah some seats n harnesses would help
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on December 28, 2022, 08:16:17 PM
Post by: Casey on December 28, 2022, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:36:41 PMOh yeah some seats n harnesses would help
;D save weight, sit on the floor.
Really coming together now :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: Casey on December 28, 2022, 08:16:17 PMLol those kirkeys don't weigh a lotQuote from: Jamie R on December 28, 2022, 05:36:41 PMOh yeah some seats n harnesses would help
;D save weight, sit on the floor.
Really coming together now :notworthy:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 08, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
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Just fitted my "Jon boosted visual enhancement " device .....
Sorry Jon, couldn't resist x
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Just fitted my "Jon boosted visual enhancement " device .....
Sorry Jon, couldn't resist x
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 08, 2023, 04:33:57 PM
Post by: boosted on January 08, 2023, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 08, 2023, 03:06:16 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230108/7902277b4521c6896d87f871d868a656.jpg)Is it a bird is it a plane...nope its a boosted eunos...
Just fitted my "Jon boosted visual enhancement " device .....
Sorry Jon, couldn't resist x
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 08, 2023, 09:12:10 PM
Post by: clive on January 08, 2023, 09:12:10 PM
Do you have a link to that mirror as it may work for me once I get a screen back in the car ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2023, 08:32:39 AM
Post by: boosted on January 09, 2023, 08:32:39 AM
Have a look at the the Longacre Concave long mirror. Bolts to the cage and gives a large wide rear view.
Had in both the westy and 5.
Awesome mirror. No movement or vibration.
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Had in both the westy and 5.
Awesome mirror. No movement or vibration.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 09, 2023, 10:10:35 AM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2023, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 09, 2023, 08:32:39 AMHave a look at the the Longacre Concave long mirror. Bolts to the cage and gives a large wide rear view.
Had in both the westy and 5.
Awesome mirror. No movement or vibration.
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Thanks Jon, I already have a "Nascar" mirror that bolts to the cage and have tried others but keep coming back to a stock mirror !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2023, 09:56:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 14, 2023, 09:56:42 AM
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5 years ago today I was modelling cad stuff !
Christ I'm slow
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5 years ago today I was modelling cad stuff !
Christ I'm slow
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 14, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
Post by: Casey on January 14, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 14, 2023, 09:56:42 AM5 years ago today I was modelling cad stuff !
Christ I'm slow
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Not at all, given the scale of this project and your attention to detail :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 14, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 14, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Given the amount of R&D for one bearded man, I think you've shown epic vision and resolve to get this far in 5 (plus covid disrupted) years!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 15, 2023, 12:02:51 PM
Post by: clive on January 15, 2023, 12:02:51 PM
Yep, I agree with the above :great: .
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2023, 10:00:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 18, 2023, 10:00:44 PM
We will all have to agree to disagree on speed lol
Anyway, I spent 250 quid on Kirkey seats. Because they were easy to carve up to make them fit the rotus.
So the official Kirkey seat cover are roughly the same price again, but because they've been modded they won't fit.
Bespoke seat covers from the help of my arty crafty friend (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230118/8771592fbd470654eb9721f9759e49f5.jpg)
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Anyway, I spent 250 quid on Kirkey seats. Because they were easy to carve up to make them fit the rotus.
So the official Kirkey seat cover are roughly the same price again, but because they've been modded they won't fit.
Bespoke seat covers from the help of my arty crafty friend (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230118/8771592fbd470654eb9721f9759e49f5.jpg)
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 19, 2023, 09:48:32 AM
Post by: Casey on January 19, 2023, 09:48:32 AM
:sign0098: that looks highly professional, plus a lot warmer and comfier!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 20, 2023, 08:18:25 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 20, 2023, 08:18:25 AM
Nice job
Devils in the detail boyo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 20, 2023, 06:27:39 PM
Post by: clive on January 20, 2023, 06:27:39 PM
Very nice and lucky you had someone to sort this for you.
I take it the wooly coloured version the seat is sitting on wasn't to your taste then :))
I take it the wooly coloured version the seat is sitting on wasn't to your taste then :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2023, 04:55:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 21, 2023, 04:55:18 PM
Quote from: clive on January 20, 2023, 06:27:39 PMVery nice and lucky you had someone to sort this for you.I was very tempted lol
I take it the wooly coloured version the seat is sitting on wasn't to your taste then :))
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 25, 2023, 06:45:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 25, 2023, 06:45:48 PM
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Can't fit sun visors, the roll cage in the way
Sun strip it is then.
Rotus in "speedhunters" font
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Can't fit sun visors, the roll cage in the way
Sun strip it is then.
Rotus in "speedhunters" font
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 25, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Post by: Casey on January 25, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
Ooooh, we are putting the finishing touches on now :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 06:06:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 06:06:07 PM
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Should have had "Jamie & Emma " for that 80s vibe
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PM
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PM
Roadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 07:26:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PMRoadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..Absolutely my friend!
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10mm clearance
Up here for the thinking ..........
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 26, 2023, 08:43:12 PM
Post by: clive on January 26, 2023, 08:43:12 PM
That graphic works really works well.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 26, 2023, 08:57:42 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 26, 2023, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PMRoadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..Drive in the wet
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......... nah !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 10:16:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: MattScott on January 26, 2023, 08:57:42 PMWell it won't go rusty lolQuote from: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PMRoadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..Drive in the wet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2023, 11:04:01 PM
Post by: MattScott on January 27, 2023, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 10:16:23 PMLol - nope it's a lotus so will fill up with water insteadQuote from: MattScott on January 26, 2023, 08:57:42 PMWell it won't go rusty lolQuote from: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PMRoadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..Drive in the wet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2023, 08:58:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2023, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: MattScott on January 27, 2023, 11:04:01 PMQuote from: Jamie R on January 26, 2023, 10:16:23 PMLol - nope it's a lotus so will fill up with water insteadQuote from: MattScott on January 26, 2023, 08:57:42 PMQuote from: boosted on January 26, 2023, 06:26:23 PMRoadlegal too, wipers dont sweep into banner...mot fail..Drive in the wet
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Hahah more than likely
Well it won't go rusty lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2023, 05:50:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2023, 05:50:30 PM
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Who is feeling brave ?
Only Jdm sized people need apply.
Sorry Wayne ya gonna struggle lol
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Who is feeling brave ?
Only Jdm sized people need apply.
Sorry Wayne ya gonna struggle lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 05, 2023, 08:24:55 PM
Post by: Casey on February 05, 2023, 08:24:55 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 05, 2023, 05:50:30 PMWho is feeling brave ?
Only Jdm sized people need apply.
Sorry Wayne ya gonna struggle lol
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2023, 01:52:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2023, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 05, 2023, 05:50:30 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230205/b1e3950106d115e559f2dd100b4dab0d.jpg)Like a giraffe in a shoe box
Who is feeling brave ?
Only Jdm sized people need apply.
Sorry Wayne ya gonna struggle lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2023, 08:06:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2023, 08:06:39 PM
Flat floor going in, only bolted down the middle, need to fit the side skirts to tie the sides in
#onestepcloser
#onestepcloser
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2023, 10:46:50 PM
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2023, 10:46:50 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:26:38 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:26:38 AM
That looks very clean
Top
Job
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:28:12 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:28:12 AM
Should you put some down ward fins on it like they say to use on the diffuser ?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 05:48:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 05:48:46 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:28:12 AMShould you put some down ward fins on it like they say to use on the diffuser ?
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Not necessary mate, so without trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, in case you already know.......
The "strakes" as they are called which hang down inside the diffuser, dont create any downforce. what they do is create a vortex along the bottom edge, this prevents the air that goes from the front of the splitter right down the middle to the diffuser from spilling sidewards and keeps it channeled down the middle.
But more importantly stops turbulent air from the rear wheels from spilling into the diffuser and upsetting the low pressure/high velocity air that you have created from the rest of aero mods.
To summarise, they dont add, but help prevent losing downforce that youve created by other means.
You will also see the 2 x 90 degree bends in the flat floor. An absolute pig to mould in grp as fibreglass doesnt like to conforming to 90 degree bends, but the lower 90 bend also creates a vortex and does the same job as prevent air from moving.
For clarity, turn to page 102 of your Simon Mcbeath book, Figure 5-10. Shows the vortex created with that condition.
Good shout tho :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 07:08:02 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 05:48:46 PMYeah but they make nice lines in the grass when you go over itQuote from: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:28:12 AMShould you put some down ward fins on it like they say to use on the diffuser ?
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Not necessary mate, so without trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, in case you already know.......
The "strakes" as they are called which hang down inside the diffuser, dont create any downforce. what they do is create a vortex along the bottom edge, this prevents the air that goes from the front of the splitter right down the middle to the diffuser from spilling sidewards and keeps it channeled down the middle.
But more importantly stops turbulent air from the rear wheels from spilling into the diffuser and upsetting the low pressure/high velocity air that you have created from the rest of aero mods.
To summarise, they dont add, but help prevent losing downforce that youve created by other means.
You will also see the 2 x 90 degree bends in the flat floor. An absolute pig to mould in grp as fibreglass doesnt like to conforming to 90 degree bends, but the lower 90 bend also creates a vortex and does the same job as prevent air from moving.
For clarity, turn to page 102 of your Simon Mcbeath book, Figure 5-10. Shows the vortex created with that condition.
Good shout tho :13:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 07:53:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 07:08:02 PMQuote from: Jamie R on February 16, 2023, 05:48:46 PMYeah but they make nice lines in the grass when you go over itQuote from: Mr Spiller on February 16, 2023, 08:28:12 AMShould you put some down ward fins on it like they say to use on the diffuser ?
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You remind me of Clarkson on Clarksons Farm programme................ POOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR
Not necessary mate, so without trying to teach grandma to suck eggs, in case you already know.......
The "strakes" as they are called which hang down inside the diffuser, dont create any downforce. what they do is create a vortex along the bottom edge, this prevents the air that goes from the front of the splitter right down the middle to the diffuser from spilling sidewards and keeps it channeled down the middle.
But more importantly stops turbulent air from the rear wheels from spilling into the diffuser and upsetting the low pressure/high velocity air that you have created from the rest of aero mods.
To summarise, they dont add, but help prevent losing downforce that youve created by other means.
You will also see the 2 x 90 degree bends in the flat floor. An absolute pig to mould in grp as fibreglass doesnt like to conforming to 90 degree bends, but the lower 90 bend also creates a vortex and does the same job as prevent air from moving.
For clarity, turn to page 102 of your Simon Mcbeath book, Figure 5-10. Shows the vortex created with that condition.
Good shout tho :13:
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2023, 06:29:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 19, 2023, 06:29:03 PM
Well thats a blow!!!
Finally got round to weighing the Rotus. Some may rememer my original target of 750-800Kgs..... Well Im nowhere near!
Original Elan +2 comes in on average dependant of where you read at 916Kg
So why do I have a lardy car at 1120kg??? WTF is going on? What have I added to the car that the original didnt have.
Well.....
Rollcage
RX8 engine and box
Rear diff
Front and rear suspension
85 litre tank
17" wheels and tyres
RX8 brakes
wider wings
bigger front end
side skirts
spolier
diffuser
3" stainless exhaust
oil coolers
Roof scoop
larger dashboard
full underfloor
So lets run some stats
1972 Elan +2 916Kg, 130bhp .....142 horses per ton
2004 RX8 1350Kg, 231bhp.... 171 horse per ton
Rotus 1120Kg keep it the same as i dunno what diff the porting has made.... 231bhp, 205 horse per ton.
Gutted ! a mere 230Kg saving over the Rx8, I may as well have not bothered, saved myself 5 years of breathing in crap and just stripped out the standard donor RX8
FML ....
Finally got round to weighing the Rotus. Some may rememer my original target of 750-800Kgs..... Well Im nowhere near!
Original Elan +2 comes in on average dependant of where you read at 916Kg
So why do I have a lardy car at 1120kg??? WTF is going on? What have I added to the car that the original didnt have.
Well.....
Rollcage
RX8 engine and box
Rear diff
Front and rear suspension
85 litre tank
17" wheels and tyres
RX8 brakes
wider wings
bigger front end
side skirts
spolier
diffuser
3" stainless exhaust
oil coolers
Roof scoop
larger dashboard
full underfloor
So lets run some stats
1972 Elan +2 916Kg, 130bhp .....142 horses per ton
2004 RX8 1350Kg, 231bhp.... 171 horse per ton
Rotus 1120Kg keep it the same as i dunno what diff the porting has made.... 231bhp, 205 horse per ton.
Gutted ! a mere 230Kg saving over the Rx8, I may as well have not bothered, saved myself 5 years of breathing in crap and just stripped out the standard donor RX8
FML ....
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on February 19, 2023, 08:35:39 PM
Post by: Casey on February 19, 2023, 08:35:39 PM
Maybe disappointing wrt your target, but a unique work of art and should still have decent performance. Looking forward to seeing it on track!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
How did you weigh it?
When i got Westory corner weighted on proper scales was 650kg.
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When i got Westory corner weighted on proper scales was 650kg.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on February 20, 2023, 05:54:47 PM
Post by: MattScott on February 20, 2023, 05:54:47 PM
Mister Chapman was the king of lightness so you've pitted yourself against a master and built something truly unique! I can understand your disappointment but its still epic and hopefully driving her in anger will make up for a little weight gain.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 07:53:10 PM
Well after a days reflecting on think i was clearly deluded that removing the rear seats, interior, glass and electric windows from the Elan, and adding all the RX8 drivetrain and suspension + aero was going to equate to less weight than a stock Elan.
230Kgs lighter than a stock RX8, hopefully will pay off. Thats like 2 of me sat on the back seat !
I dunno what the porting the tertiary ports and exhausts will have done, but a lightened flywheel and a 4.7 diff will hopefully make it feel spritely
230Kgs lighter than a stock RX8, hopefully will pay off. Thats like 2 of me sat on the back seat !
I dunno what the porting the tertiary ports and exhausts will have done, but a lightened flywheel and a 4.7 diff will hopefully make it feel spritely
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 08:04:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: MattScott on February 20, 2023, 05:54:47 PMMister Chapman was the king of lightness so you've pitted yourself against a master and built something truly unique! I can understand your disappointment but its still epic and hopefully driving her in anger will make up for a little weight gain.He had the right philosophy of lightness, but there was an argument to say that he may have taken it too far and sacrificed safety...
I saw those a pillars on the Elan. There's no way I would have survived a roll over
Not quite as bad as lancia using cardboard tubes as a roll cage in group b .... But not far off lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Hobbawobba on February 21, 2023, 08:05:52 PM
Post by: Hobbawobba on February 21, 2023, 08:05:52 PM
Don't forget about the worlds heaviest and thickest 2 stroke tank! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 21, 2023, 08:21:50 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 21, 2023, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 08:04:32 PMHe had the right philosophy of lightness, but there was an argument to say that he may have taken it too far and sacrificed safety...
That's a diplomatic way of putting it. By giving them in race cars made of tin foil and paper clips he killed:
Alan Stacey 1960
Ricardo Rodriguez 1962
Gary Hocking 1962
Jim Clark 1968
Jochen Rindt 1970
Ronnie Peterson 1978
You can also add a number of attempted murders on Graham Hill and others.
That's only the formula class cars.
And in the end he smuggled drugs to try to keep his business afloat.
He made some great cars, but he was a total ****
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2023, 08:51:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2023, 08:51:41 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on February 21, 2023, 08:21:50 PMAh I don't quite know as much history as you about him.Quote from: Jamie R on February 20, 2023, 08:04:32 PMHe had the right philosophy of lightness, but there was an argument to say that he may have taken it too far and sacrificed safety...
That's a diplomatic way of putting it. By giving them in race cars made of tin foil and paper clips he killed:
Alan Stacey 1960
Ricardo Rodriguez 1962
Gary Hocking 1962
Jim Clark 1968
Jochen Rindt 1970
Ronnie Peterson 1978
You can also add a number of attempted murders on Graham Hill and others.
That's only the formula class cars.
And in the end he smuggled drugs to try to keep his business afloat.
He made some great cars, but he was a total ****
I knew he didn't play with a straight bat
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 21, 2023, 09:20:36 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 21, 2023, 09:20:36 PM
So, I really wouldn't worry that your fabulous creation deviates a bit from the much hyped "add lightness philosophy". You'll be a lot safer in the Rotus for that. ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 22, 2023, 12:54:13 PM
Post by: clive on February 22, 2023, 12:54:13 PM
Jamie
Ah I don't quite know as much history as you about him.
I knew he didn't play with a straight bat
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Allegedly he died just one week before he was about to be indited along with John DeLorean, for scamming the British government out of money.
As for his drivers, not sure he really cared, Jochen Rindt fell out with Chapman after the car broke and put him in a barrier, then the car killed him next time out at Monza!
Such was the obsession with lightness, Saloon racer Dave Brodie told the story of going to Snetterton and while testing seeing the chassis collapse under the first heavy braking! Chapman response was to go just one gauge up on the gauge thickness.
Ah I don't quite know as much history as you about him.
I knew he didn't play with a straight bat
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Allegedly he died just one week before he was about to be indited along with John DeLorean, for scamming the British government out of money.
As for his drivers, not sure he really cared, Jochen Rindt fell out with Chapman after the car broke and put him in a barrier, then the car killed him next time out at Monza!
Such was the obsession with lightness, Saloon racer Dave Brodie told the story of going to Snetterton and while testing seeing the chassis collapse under the first heavy braking! Chapman response was to go just one gauge up on the gauge thickness.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on February 22, 2023, 12:57:37 PM
Post by: clive on February 22, 2023, 12:57:37 PM
Back to the car.
Jamie, I would go for a recount.
With at least half a tank of fuel on board with my very heavy roll cage at Brands at Snett the car weighed in at around 1250 kilo
Jamie, I would go for a recount.
With at least half a tank of fuel on board with my very heavy roll cage at Brands at Snett the car weighed in at around 1250 kilo
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 04, 2023, 03:27:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 04, 2023, 03:27:05 PM
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Passenger footwell going in
Sill protectors stuck on.
Door cards upholstered
Ordered some laser cut parts to make hub stands ...... can do the corner weights properly without wheels fitted
Then it's book MOT and insure
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Passenger footwell going in
Sill protectors stuck on.
Door cards upholstered
Ordered some laser cut parts to make hub stands ...... can do the corner weights properly without wheels fitted
Then it's book MOT and insure
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 04, 2023, 05:15:23 PM
Post by: Casey on March 04, 2023, 05:15:23 PM
Some nice finishing touches there :13:
Ooooh, almost MOT time, excellent :P
Ooooh, almost MOT time, excellent :P
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 05, 2023, 11:56:40 AM
Post by: MattScott on March 05, 2023, 11:56:40 AM
Almost there... 
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 05, 2023, 04:25:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 05, 2023, 04:25:13 PM
Yes Jamie
Nearly there now
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on March 06, 2023, 12:00:16 PM
Post by: boosted on March 06, 2023, 12:00:16 PM
Yep, ill put the kettle on for that running in.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2023, 10:14:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2023, 10:14:44 AM
Hub stands !
Why did I never think of these before ??
Obviously come in handy for doing the 8 too !
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Why did I never think of these before ??
Obviously come in handy for doing the 8 too !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2023, 10:34:19 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2023, 10:34:19 AM
And 120kgs of driver and helmet simulated
Yes I know !
The helmet weighs 70kgs
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Yes I know !
The helmet weighs 70kgs
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2023, 02:27:18 PM
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2023, 02:27:18 PM
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2023, 07:59:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2023, 07:59:50 PM
So the elusive corner weight saga.
Now im running 400lbs springs on the front and 275lbs springs on the rear.
Car is loaded up with 120Kgs ballast (dummy driver) and 30 litres fuel.
I set the ride height on all 4 corners and lowered the car onto the scales.
Im happy with the corners distribution, and live with the 21Kg side to side as nothing in the grand scheme.
Now leave it alone! Corner weight results.JPG
Now im running 400lbs springs on the front and 275lbs springs on the rear.
Car is loaded up with 120Kgs ballast (dummy driver) and 30 litres fuel.
I set the ride height on all 4 corners and lowered the car onto the scales.
Im happy with the corners distribution, and live with the 21Kg side to side as nothing in the grand scheme.
Now leave it alone! Corner weight results.JPG
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: jinx on March 16, 2023, 02:40:21 PM
Post by: jinx on March 16, 2023, 02:40:21 PM
Could suggest you investigate a lighter helmet option but basically still so in awe of the journey, any comment apart from 'wow' would be superfluous. Wow.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:07:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:07:21 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:07:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:07:45 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:08:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:08:40 PM
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Finally after too long she moves under her own power
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:09:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:09:06 PM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2023, 01:10:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2023, 01:10:40 PM
Ohhhh Jamie
That is amazing
I'm not just saying it to fill the thread
It really looks fantastic
It will turn some heads
Hats off bud
Bravo
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That is amazing
I'm not just saying it to fill the thread
It really looks fantastic
It will turn some heads
Hats off bud
Bravo
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2023, 01:12:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2023, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 18, 2023, 01:09:06 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230318/13677d9800044e090ab37a920ab53c3e.jpg)Can you move away please sir so I can appreciate the car
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2023, 08:30:53 PM
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2023, 08:30:53 PM
That looks amazing!!!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2023, 07:49:07 AM
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2023, 07:49:07 AM
Looks absolutely beast!!! Good job mate!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2023, 07:50:23 AM
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2023, 07:50:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 15, 2023, 07:59:50 PMSo the elusive corner weight saga.That actually not bad at all
Now im running 400lbs springs on the front and 275lbs springs on the rear.
Car is loaded up with 120Kgs ballast (dummy driver) and 30 litres fuel.
I set the ride height on all 4 corners and lowered the car onto the scales.
Im happy with the corners distribution, and live with the 21Kg side to side as nothing in the grand scheme.
Now leave it alone! Corner weight results.JPG
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on March 19, 2023, 04:57:06 PM
Post by: clive on March 19, 2023, 04:57:06 PM
So pleased for you that its done and seeing the light of day.
Hopefully you will bring it to JDM Combe so we can see people trying to work out what this amazing creation is :great:
Hopefully you will bring it to JDM Combe so we can see people trying to work out what this amazing creation is :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2023, 07:19:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2023, 07:19:25 PM
Quote from: clive on March 19, 2023, 04:57:06 PMSo pleased for you that its done and seeing the light of day.Cheers Clive, I most certainly will bring it to Combe.
Hopefully you will bring it to JDM Combe so we can see people trying to work out what this amazing creation is :great:
Still need to bleed the clutch some more.
MOT, tracking and insure
But the weather still pants at mo.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
Really looking forward to seeing this at Combe :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on March 31, 2023, 10:15:49 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 31, 2023, 10:15:49 PM
Such an epic build and looks absolutely fantastic in the loght of day. Brightens up this damp crappy weather for sure 
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2023, 10:22:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2023, 10:22:02 AM
So, clutch sorted!
Ill be doing maiden voyage this sat now its insured !
Woot!
Ill be doing maiden voyage this sat now its insured !
Woot!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 11, 2023, 04:24:55 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 11, 2023, 04:24:55 PM
Wow, congrats! Full video report in HD and surround sound pls! :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2023, 06:07:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 11, 2023, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on April 11, 2023, 04:24:55 PMWow, congrats! Full video report in HD and surround sound pls! :great:
I better get a go pro and remain legal lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2023, 08:16:58 PM
Post by: Casey on April 11, 2023, 08:16:58 PM
Great news, Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on April 14, 2023, 04:51:35 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 14, 2023, 04:51:35 PM
Great news, now we just need some nice weather
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 29, 2023, 07:07:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 29, 2023, 07:07:45 PM
So been for a pootle this evening ( in the rain too) it won't go rusty lol
Took father in law out. So racked up about 70 miles so far.
Boy is gets warm in that cockpit lol. That roof scoop is a god send.
Brakes stop well, and they're still bedding in ish.
Had a slight coolant leak in the week which resulted in a loss of 3 litres. 2 hot spells up to 110 degrees!!!
I've cured that issue, didn't get above 92 today.
STILL need to get that tracking sorted.
But the worst bit is keeping it under 4k while I'm running the engine in. Yawn
70mph at 4k in 6th makes for comfortable cruising. But I can't wait to get it on the track after I've run that engine in !
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Took father in law out. So racked up about 70 miles so far.
Boy is gets warm in that cockpit lol. That roof scoop is a god send.
Brakes stop well, and they're still bedding in ish.
Had a slight coolant leak in the week which resulted in a loss of 3 litres. 2 hot spells up to 110 degrees!!!
I've cured that issue, didn't get above 92 today.
STILL need to get that tracking sorted.
But the worst bit is keeping it under 4k while I'm running the engine in. Yawn
70mph at 4k in 6th makes for comfortable cruising. But I can't wait to get it on the track after I've run that engine in !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 30, 2023, 09:10:10 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 30, 2023, 09:10:10 AM
Great news
I bet it's turning a few heads
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2023, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2023, 09:13:00 AM
I'm seeing lots of people that think they know me, or there's a speed gun up the road. They keep flashing Wayne
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on April 30, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
Post by: boosted on April 30, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
How many more miles to go on run in?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2023, 05:26:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2023, 05:26:50 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2023, 07:07:45 PMSo been for a pootle this evening ( in the rain too) it won't go rusty lol
Took father in law out. So racked up about 70 miles so far.
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Some peeps saying 500 miles under 4k and then 500 under 7k.... based on that Id say 930 to go lol
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 01, 2023, 10:48:05 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 01, 2023, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 30, 2023, 05:26:50 PMLol - took me the best part of a year to run in after a rebuildQuote from: Jamie R on April 29, 2023, 07:07:45 PMSo been for a pootle this evening ( in the rain too) it won't go rusty lol
Took father in law out. So racked up about 70 miles so far.
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Some peeps saying 500 miles under 4k and then 500 under 7k.... based on that Id say 930 to go lol
other priorities kept getting the way!Sounds like you've reached celebrity status
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 05, 2023, 02:42:21 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 05, 2023, 02:42:21 PM
Right, if Clive gets a poem, so should you:
As Jamie transformed his Lotus
He updated us, never forgot us
But it's beyond me
Yes, how can it be
That a rust-free car is called ROT-us?
Show us some piques, or I shall taunt you a second time! :D
As Jamie transformed his Lotus
He updated us, never forgot us
But it's beyond me
Yes, how can it be
That a rust-free car is called ROT-us?
Show us some piques, or I shall taunt you a second time! :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 05, 2023, 03:04:14 PM
Post by: Casey on May 05, 2023, 03:04:14 PM
:13: :13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2023, 04:49:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2023, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 05, 2023, 02:42:21 PMRight, if Clive gets a poem, so should you:
As Jamie transformed his Lotus
He updated us, never forgot us
But it's beyond me
Yes, how can it be
That a rust-free car is called ROT-us?
Show us some piques, or I shall taunt you a second time! :D
Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:17:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:17:14 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 05, 2023, 04:49:19 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230506/2ffe5a588d5d26181f619a6491179e16.jpg)Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 05, 2023, 02:42:21 PMRight, if Clive gets a poem, so should you:
As Jamie transformed his Lotus
He updated us, never forgot us
But it's beyond me
Yes, how can it be
That a rust-free car is called ROT-us?
Show us some piques, or I shall taunt you a second time! :D
Hahahahahaha
First outing yngvar!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:18:06 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:18:06 AM
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Successful at the mot station
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:19:02 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:19:02 AM
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Grandad getting ready ......
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:19:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:19:55 AM
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The old fella having a pre drive warm up session
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 06, 2023, 10:20:08 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 06, 2023, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:19:55 AM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230506/047f6602fe8d35b98fb75eb2abedd507.jpg)What out he's nicking bits piece by piece
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 06, 2023, 04:19:40 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 06, 2023, 04:19:40 PM
Wow! Great to see the wonder outside! Looks fab! Thanks, Jamie.
I shall then not taunt you a second time. ;)
I shall then not taunt you a second time. ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 06, 2023, 04:19:40 PMWow! Great to see the wonder outside! Looks fab! Thanks, Jamie.It's all banter ole bean.
I shall then not taunt you a second time. ;)
I can hack it, been taunted far worse over the years .....
Wayne n Jon give me plenty of fun pokerey too. It's all good
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 06, 2023, 07:27:30 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 06, 2023, 07:27:30 PM
Heh, heh. My blackmail worked. Duly noted for future reference. :D
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 05:40:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 05:40:45 PM
Sorry it's short n sweet
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
In-car buzzage
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2023, 06:32:13 PM
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2023, 06:32:13 PM
Sure sounds like an RX-8 :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 06:50:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2023, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: Casey on May 07, 2023, 06:32:13 PMSure sounds like an RX-8 :13:It's a bit raspier in the flesh.
It's not offensive but it's not sedate like a stock 8
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2023, 10:29:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2023, 10:29:14 PM
So pulling all the diffuser off tonight in readiness for 4 wheel alignment next week. .... Noticed 3 out of 4 wheel centre caps gone missing.
So if you see them on your travels lol
Better order some more
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So if you see them on your travels lol
Better order some more
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 02:36:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 02:36:09 PM
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So 4 wheel alignment done today.
Car feels a lot more neutral if that's a thing ?
It's not battling me anymore.
So time to finally run that engine in.
I'll be driving it for this year then a new design bonnet over the winter, I'm not happy with this one.
That's prototypes for you! And as Jon boosted said, projects are never finished. At least it shows I'm keeping this one unlike all my others.
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So 4 wheel alignment done today.
Car feels a lot more neutral if that's a thing ?
It's not battling me anymore.
So time to finally run that engine in.
I'll be driving it for this year then a new design bonnet over the winter, I'm not happy with this one.
That's prototypes for you! And as Jon boosted said, projects are never finished. At least it shows I'm keeping this one unlike all my others.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 02:45:48 PM
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 02:45:48 PM
:sign0098: glad to hear the steering feel has improved now :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 06:46:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 06:46:21 PM
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All washed and .........
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PM
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... JDM ready !
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
Can't wait to see and hear this in the metal :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 08:03:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2023, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Casey on May 23, 2023, 07:28:35 PMCan't wait to see and hear this in the metal :great:Ain't much metal there bud
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 08:53:34 PM
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2023, 08:53:34 PM
;D ....under the fibreglass shell ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on May 24, 2023, 08:13:10 AM
Post by: clive on May 24, 2023, 08:13:10 AM
I stole them but missed one, race cars don't have centre caps :))
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2023, 07:05:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 29, 2023, 07:05:23 PM
Racking up those miles, 2 pootles out before and after the brummies congregate in out home town for fairground entertainment.....
Last one this evening with my son Bailey, his first time in it.
To which he points out........ROTUS ..... rotary's overheat then usually serious
I don't like him anymore!
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Last one this evening with my son Bailey, his first time in it.
To which he points out........ROTUS ..... rotary's overheat then usually serious
I don't like him anymore!
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on May 29, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 29, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 29, 2023, 07:05:23 PMRacking up those miles, 2 pootles out before and after the brummies congregate in out home town for fairground entertainment.....Lol - I have owned an Excel in my past and that did like to heat up even without a rotary
Last one this evening with my son Bailey, his first time in it.
To which he points out........ROTUS ..... rotary's overheat then usually serious
I don't like him anymore!
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'REliability Or The Ultimate SacREfise' ........
... so keep themhandy just in case
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Paul_13 on June 17, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on June 17, 2023, 02:45:43 PM
So happy to see this on the road. Years and years of work to get it to this point.
Well done
Well done
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
Well, I think the Rotus is fighting against me and turning into (dare I say it) Christine Mark 2
I know it was a huge project and there were some experimenting with certain parts.
Well the contact adhesive has failed and the headlining dangling, All the parts willed with PU foam has started to implode, its sucking in and overpowering the strength of the GRP, which is worrying.
The rear spoiler is basically scrap and the one side skirt is starting to suck in, but i dont know why, PU foam should expand not suck in...
Needless to say i feel like setting it all on fire !
I know it was a huge project and there were some experimenting with certain parts.
Well the contact adhesive has failed and the headlining dangling, All the parts willed with PU foam has started to implode, its sucking in and overpowering the strength of the GRP, which is worrying.
The rear spoiler is basically scrap and the one side skirt is starting to suck in, but i dont know why, PU foam should expand not suck in...
Needless to say i feel like setting it all on fire !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on June 20, 2023, 09:36:51 AM
Post by: Casey on June 20, 2023, 09:36:51 AM
Oh no, really sorry to hear that, Jamie. Hope you can fix without too much trouble.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 09:48:23 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 09:48:23 AM
Aw no
Sorry to hear this
Could it be anything to do with the heat ?
Like certain grades of PU foam susceptible to heat
Bit like we can only use certain graded fire foams around doors and some have to be coated prior to being covered
Or am I talking about the wrong type oh PU
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Sorry to hear this
Could it be anything to do with the heat ?
Like certain grades of PU foam susceptible to heat
Bit like we can only use certain graded fire foams around doors and some have to be coated prior to being covered
Or am I talking about the wrong type oh PU
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 20, 2023, 10:31:18 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on June 20, 2023, 10:31:18 AM
So sad to hear. Reminds me of my Cortina bare metal rebuild project: the first joy of seeing it "finished" soon faded as things started to come off, beginning with the window strips when waiting for the ferry home. Then the manifold started touching the crossmember, making an awful racket,; then the brand new brake discs warped, because the powder coating hadn't been removed from the caliper mounting brackets before assembly. Of course, the boot was fully packed when the lock decided to come apart, and so on and so forth. I could go on for hours... ::) Last thing to go before I sold it was the rear radius arm mountings. I suppose we must factor in these things when embarking on a project. No fun at this point, seeing progress run backwards, but you'll get there!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 12:11:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 09:48:23 AMAw no
Sorry to hear this
Could it be anything to do with the heat ?
Like certain grades of PU foam susceptible to heat
Bit like we can only use certain graded fire foams around doors and some have to be coated prior to being covered
Or am I talking about the wrong type oh PU
Im not sure if its the "wrong type" but it was purchased from the same company that i bought the GRP from.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 12:21:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 12:21:10 PM
Ill phone them lunchtime see if they can explain why it happened.
At the moment, im thinking rip the spoiler off, fill the holes and repaint.
Make a new one in the winter, I just cant bear to look at it
As for the headlining, I cant get in to re apply adhesive, so may just rip that out too
At the moment, im thinking rip the spoiler off, fill the holes and repaint.
Make a new one in the winter, I just cant bear to look at it
As for the headlining, I cant get in to re apply adhesive, so may just rip that out too
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 03:54:31 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 12:11:27 PMShould be correct stuff then I guessQuote from: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2023, 09:48:23 AMAw no
Sorry to hear this
Could it be anything to do with the heat ?
Like certain grades of PU foam susceptible to heat
Bit like we can only use certain graded fire foams around doors and some have to be coated prior to being covered
Or am I talking about the wrong type oh PU
Im not sure if its the "wrong type" but it was purchased from the same company that i bought the GRP from.
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Best of luck sorting it
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 04:07:32 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 20, 2023, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on June 17, 2023, 02:45:43 PMSo happy to see this on the road. Years and years of work to get it to this point.Thanks Paul!
Well done
Glad to see you are alive and well !
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on June 20, 2023, 08:07:10 PM
Post by: MattScott on June 20, 2023, 08:07:10 PM
Ah man, I can only imagine how gutted you're feeling right now having poured so much time and effort into it. But it is an epic build and from what have read/seen, if anyone can sort this you can.
Stay away from flammable liquids and naked flames mate. Deep breath and piece by piece she'll be back to glory again.
Remember she's based on a Lotus so things happen unexpectedly
Stay away from flammable liquids and naked flames mate. Deep breath and piece by piece she'll be back to glory again.
Remember she's based on a Lotus so things happen unexpectedly
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2023, 10:06:50 AM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2023, 10:06:50 AM
Looks like Adam C is prioritising Goodwood FOS as nothing on his youtube yet for JDM Bud...
You got a reprieve...
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2023, 03:34:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2023, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 16, 2023, 10:06:50 AMLooks like Adam C is prioritising Goodwood FOS as nothing on his youtube yet for JDM Bud...
You got a reprieve...
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Phew, hearing him was 100% cringe
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2023, 03:45:17 PM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2023, 03:45:17 PM
I know but could be worse could be that Schmee bloke. I cant stand that noise that bloke makes.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:46:04 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:46:04 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 16, 2023, 03:45:17 PMI know but could be worse could be that Schmee bloke. I cant stand that noise that bloke makes.How do you know these people ???
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:49:29 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:49:29 AM
So a very diplomatic email to zircotec yesterday explaining my disappointment of their costing that is just falling off after jdm. White dots appearing also
He have asked for it to go back to base for inspection with quality team and be re coated FOC
10mins to remove, no great shakes ........
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He have asked for it to go back to base for inspection with quality team and be re coated FOC
10mins to remove, no great shakes ........
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:50:54 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 05:50:54 AM
Nice to see a decent colour of biscuit brown on the inside for that clean burn
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 21, 2023, 09:31:56 AM
Post by: clive on July 21, 2023, 09:31:56 AM
Exhaust colour is :love4:
Jamie, one downside I found is that brake cleaner attacks zircotec, so is it possible some has got splashed onto the manifold.
Jamie, one downside I found is that brake cleaner attacks zircotec, so is it possible some has got splashed onto the manifold.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 09:59:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 09:59:12 AM
Nope all fluids between the interior seats
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 21, 2023, 11:54:29 AM
Post by: clive on July 21, 2023, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 21, 2023, 09:59:12 AMNope all fluids between the interior seats
Or maybe on the seats if your going fast enough ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2023, 07:48:41 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2023, 07:48:41 AM
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5 years ago! Back in the day when I didn't have a plan or really a clue what I was doing. Still, the engine still running after the diy rebuild/porting.... touch wood.
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5 years ago! Back in the day when I didn't have a plan or really a clue what I was doing. Still, the engine still running after the diy rebuild/porting.... touch wood.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 27, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
Post by: Casey on July 27, 2023, 08:06:04 AM
Great to look back and see how far your project has progressed :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2023, 06:50:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2023, 06:50:53 AM
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Well the pipes have been RE-coated (see what I did) lol
While I'm here I'd like to apologise. I've had the support from many on here over the last 5 years. During this build and since it's been finished I've kinda gone to ground.
Lots going on in personal life. Despite my physical and mental health having a bit of a dip ... I've quit my job as Operations Director through fear of ending up in jail. I'm working from home on the Rusky Rotary earning some £.
Applied for many jobs, had first and second interviews, lost opportunities, been offered jobs. I'd love to go self employed but that needs to be more established. Been offered a business partnership, however I'm not sure. But I don't know which way to turn at mo. I'm not planning on going back to "work" till mid September. But let's see what happens.
I'm still a strong advocate for rotary's, just not been very active on here. So sorry for the lack of posts, lack of responses to people's questions, lack of comments to pics or vids.... Just generally lacking.
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Well the pipes have been RE-coated (see what I did) lol
While I'm here I'd like to apologise. I've had the support from many on here over the last 5 years. During this build and since it's been finished I've kinda gone to ground.
Lots going on in personal life. Despite my physical and mental health having a bit of a dip ... I've quit my job as Operations Director through fear of ending up in jail. I'm working from home on the Rusky Rotary earning some £.
Applied for many jobs, had first and second interviews, lost opportunities, been offered jobs. I'd love to go self employed but that needs to be more established. Been offered a business partnership, however I'm not sure. But I don't know which way to turn at mo. I'm not planning on going back to "work" till mid September. But let's see what happens.
I'm still a strong advocate for rotary's, just not been very active on here. So sorry for the lack of posts, lack of responses to people's questions, lack of comments to pics or vids.... Just generally lacking.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 09, 2023, 08:33:34 AM
Post by: Casey on August 09, 2023, 08:33:34 AM
Hey, absolutely no need to apologise, Jamie!
You have posted some original, fascinating, inspiring stuff on here over many years now. I always hugely look forward to updates on your projects and other stuff, but there is never any pressure or expectation for you to post.
Sorry your job search is having issues, but with your skills and attributes, I'm certain you will eventually find a job you will feel is right for you.
You have posted some original, fascinating, inspiring stuff on here over many years now. I always hugely look forward to updates on your projects and other stuff, but there is never any pressure or expectation for you to post.
Sorry your job search is having issues, but with your skills and attributes, I'm certain you will eventually find a job you will feel is right for you.
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: MattScott on August 09, 2023, 10:58:12 AM
Post by: MattScott on August 09, 2023, 10:58:12 AM
Good luck on the job front. You will be an asset to have so hope you find someone/something you're happier with soon.
On the posting front .... don't worry your fine beard about it! We all have our own personal challenges which mean other things have to take priority. Look after yourself and Emma first and foremost, rotarys second
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On the posting front .... don't worry your fine beard about it! We all have our own personal challenges which mean other things have to take priority. Look after yourself and Emma first and foremost, rotarys second
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2023, 02:07:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2023, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: MattScott on August 09, 2023, 10:58:12 AMGood luck on the job front. You will be an asset to have so hope you find someone/something you're happier with soon.Good lord have you gone mad !
On the posting front .... don't worry your fine beard about it! We all have our own personal challenges which mean other things have to take priority. Look after yourself and Emma first and foremost, rotarys second
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Wash your mouth out !
Rotary first .... Emma knows she's a shed widow lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2023, 03:54:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2023, 03:54:28 PM
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So finally got round to fixing my saggy headlining. This one is easy to fit, it's cheap, makes your car lighter and looks just like GRP
In other news I'm employed again. Accepted a job this morning after salary negotiations. Now working as manufacturing engineering manager. It's spitting distance from home, got perks of sheet steel, machinery, powder coating etcalso with an added benefit of not facing a jail sentence.
The prospect of being self employed will have to remain as a working hobby ....
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So finally got round to fixing my saggy headlining. This one is easy to fit, it's cheap, makes your car lighter and looks just like GRP
In other news I'm employed again. Accepted a job this morning after salary negotiations. Now working as manufacturing engineering manager. It's spitting distance from home, got perks of sheet steel, machinery, powder coating etc
also with an added benefit of not facing a jail sentence. The prospect of being self employed will have to remain as a working hobby ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2023, 04:27:05 PM
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2023, 04:27:05 PM
Well done on sorting the headlining :sign0098:
And many congrats on the new job too :13:
And many congrats on the new job too :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 10, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
Cheers Mr C. I dont start until 25th Sept, so still got lots to sort
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2023, 07:02:18 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2023, 07:02:18 PM
Congrats mate .
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on August 10, 2023, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2023, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 09, 2023, 08:33:34 AMHey, absolutely no need to apologise, Jamie!
You have posted some original, fascinating, inspiring stuff on here over many years now. I always hugely look forward to updates on your projects and other stuff, but there is never any pressure or expectation for you to post.
Sorry your job search is having issues, but with your skills and attributes, I'm certain you will eventually find a job you will feel is right for you.
I'm with Malcolm on this one :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2024, 01:16:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 07, 2024, 01:16:03 PM
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Well she's gonna be tucked up for a few months while the extension gets built.
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Well she's gonna be tucked up for a few months while the extension gets built.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on January 07, 2024, 04:35:03 PM
Post by: Casey on January 07, 2024, 04:35:03 PM
:13: :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on January 07, 2024, 04:37:21 PM
Post by: clive on January 07, 2024, 04:37:21 PM
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Well she's gonna be tucked up for a few months while the extension gets built.
Looks very TVR'ish and there's nothing wrong with that :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2025, 10:08:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2025, 10:08:52 AM
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Trying some different things after a spirited drive the other month and managed to get water temps to 120 C for a brief peripd.
As the davis craig water pump controls flow and the ecu controls fans.
Im gonna try removal of the thermostat even with its bypass holes drilled.
A restriction is all it is even if it takes a bit longer to warm up.
Anything is better than running those temps
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Trying some different things after a spirited drive the other month and managed to get water temps to 120 C for a brief peripd.
As the davis craig water pump controls flow and the ecu controls fans.
Im gonna try removal of the thermostat even with its bypass holes drilled.
A restriction is all it is even if it takes a bit longer to warm up.
Anything is better than running those temps
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2025, 04:53:33 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 05, 2025, 04:53:33 PM
Well with no thermostat i pootled around town fine, stuck for ages at the lights it got up to 97 C max.
Then back out for a spirited drive down my local dual track. Got the revs up to 8.5 - 9k only saw 88-89 C on the display
Plenty of air flow.... Id say the ducting works fine.
A set of brand new nankang ns2r's in the garage ready to chuck on.
I feel a red hot date on the track coming ....
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Then back out for a spirited drive down my local dual track. Got the revs up to 8.5 - 9k only saw 88-89 C on the display
Plenty of air flow.... Id say the ducting works fine.
A set of brand new nankang ns2r's in the garage ready to chuck on.
I feel a red hot date on the track coming ....
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 09, 2025, 06:32:16 PM
Post by: clive on July 09, 2025, 06:32:16 PM
Great to see this out and about again :13:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2025, 12:47:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 16, 2025, 12:47:59 PM
So its been 2 years since ive finished the rotus,
Im sure as with any one off build / prototype call it what you will theres gonna be things that need to be changed, updated, and mine is no exception.
Hell i wanted to do things differently during the 5 year build but if you keep stopping starting, youll never get it done.
So after a few decent drives out ive noticed a few things.....
High water temps, this has since been cured by removing the thermostat and she runs lovely.
Need an upgrade on the box of tricks that keeps the can-bus happy, thats in the pipeline.
All grp oarts that are held together with 2 part expanding foam have imploded and distorted the panels. So they will be remodelled re manufactured using different methods.
The bonnet is great at allowing cool air in, but what it does is push hot air from the exhaust down the trans tunnel, therefore the centre console burns my arm, the aluminium seats get red hot, the roll cage gets red hot, the bloody key on the keyring dangling from tge ignition burns my leg in shorts!!!
Needless to say a new bonnet is on the horizon that allows cool air in and hot air out, the design will be completely different.
I "may" even change the whole front end, dont know yet.
The boot will be changed.
So in the meantime, less shows, more track days. Use and abuse it, then it will become Rotus 2.0 or mk2 or whatever.
And as a wise man from westbury once said, car projects are never finished.
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Im sure as with any one off build / prototype call it what you will theres gonna be things that need to be changed, updated, and mine is no exception.
Hell i wanted to do things differently during the 5 year build but if you keep stopping starting, youll never get it done.
So after a few decent drives out ive noticed a few things.....
High water temps, this has since been cured by removing the thermostat and she runs lovely.
Need an upgrade on the box of tricks that keeps the can-bus happy, thats in the pipeline.
All grp oarts that are held together with 2 part expanding foam have imploded and distorted the panels. So they will be remodelled re manufactured using different methods.
The bonnet is great at allowing cool air in, but what it does is push hot air from the exhaust down the trans tunnel, therefore the centre console burns my arm, the aluminium seats get red hot, the roll cage gets red hot, the bloody key on the keyring dangling from tge ignition burns my leg in shorts!!!
Needless to say a new bonnet is on the horizon that allows cool air in and hot air out, the design will be completely different.
I "may" even change the whole front end, dont know yet.
The boot will be changed.
So in the meantime, less shows, more track days. Use and abuse it, then it will become Rotus 2.0 or mk2 or whatever.
And as a wise man from westbury once said, car projects are never finished.
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 17, 2025, 03:44:11 PM
Post by: Casey on July 17, 2025, 03:44:11 PM
Nice update Jamie :icon_thumleft:
Good to see you made it to Bicester and your engine cooling issue is sorted (boy did you need it sorted for that trip, with ambients sky high!).
Next time, wear a fireproof racing suit. Burn problem solved and a bonus too - you are bound to lose some weight by sweating it off :)) :))
Nice to see you have some improvement ideas for the Mk II :notworthy:
Good to see you made it to Bicester and your engine cooling issue is sorted (boy did you need it sorted for that trip, with ambients sky high!).
Next time, wear a fireproof racing suit. Burn problem solved and a bonus too - you are bound to lose some weight by sweating it off :)) :))
Nice to see you have some improvement ideas for the Mk II :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 18, 2025, 09:23:42 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 18, 2025, 09:23:42 AM
Nice to see the Rotus is still alive and developing. :great:
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2025, 10:34:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2025, 10:34:31 AM
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Bloody super unleaded nitro mors??
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Bloody super unleaded nitro mors??
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 20, 2025, 08:58:41 PM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2025, 08:58:41 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggg
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on July 28, 2025, 07:35:51 PM
Post by: Casey on July 28, 2025, 07:35:51 PM
??? ??? ??? :(
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: clive on July 31, 2025, 11:08:45 AM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2025, 11:08:45 AM
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Bloody super unleaded nitro mors??
Arrrrggggggggggg!
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 10:01:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 10:01:33 AM
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 10:02:39 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 10:02:39 AM
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Coolant made its way back here.
At least the flat underbody works lol
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Coolant made its way back here.
At least the flat underbody works lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 06:09:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2025, 06:09:22 PM
So ! I have a theory on the high temps.
Me n jon have a difference of opinion here, but thats ok. Id rather have a debate coz im not always right.
Jon thinks my duct to the rad is too small and i think the duct after the rad is a bottle neck and if the air cant get out it cant flow through.
So ive done a Clive, and looked at pics from yesterday to see if i notice anything. And i have a hunch.....
The first pic shows the rear curve of the exit duct and the second pic shows it physically higher than the front lip of the exit duct.
Therefore i think the incoming air is being forced back into the exit duct and nothing is moving at higher speeds, and things get hot.
The simple fix is to stick a gurney flap on the front lip to extend it up and allow the rad to vent out.
Its a hunch..... thoughts?
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Me n jon have a difference of opinion here, but thats ok. Id rather have a debate coz im not always right.
Jon thinks my duct to the rad is too small and i think the duct after the rad is a bottle neck and if the air cant get out it cant flow through.
So ive done a Clive, and looked at pics from yesterday to see if i notice anything. And i have a hunch.....
The first pic shows the rear curve of the exit duct and the second pic shows it physically higher than the front lip of the exit duct.
Therefore i think the incoming air is being forced back into the exit duct and nothing is moving at higher speeds, and things get hot.
The simple fix is to stick a gurney flap on the front lip to extend it up and allow the rad to vent out.
Its a hunch..... thoughts?
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 20, 2025, 08:03:17 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 20, 2025, 08:03:17 PM
Fab to see the Orange Monster out running! :great:
Your theory makes perfect sense to me (for what that's worth). ;)
Your theory makes perfect sense to me (for what that's worth). ;)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on August 22, 2025, 07:09:04 PM
Post by: Casey on August 22, 2025, 07:09:04 PM
Photos are great. Not a clue on the airflow question though :dontknow: :)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 09, 2025, 08:20:26 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 09, 2025, 08:20:26 PM
There's a good reason why looking at an ad like this is not quite what it used to be, but I can't think of it right now... :D
https://www.finn.no/mobility/item/426274904 (https://www.finn.no/mobility/item/426274904)
https://www.finn.no/mobility/item/426274904 (https://www.finn.no/mobility/item/426274904)
Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2025, 08:01:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2025, 08:01:24 AM
Go on buy it, chuck a rotary in the front lol
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Title: Re: Rotus Project Build
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2025, 07:15:05 PM
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2025, 07:15:05 PM
:)) :)) :)) :)) :))