Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
Quite a few know by now what I will be building for next season\'s Nippon Challenge Super GT class so I took delivery of an RX-8 rolling shell that’s gone straight into the paint shop I thought we would get a build thread up n running.
Many know I raced various "tin tops" for many years and gained a few Championships and race wins and also that I have used our RX-8 on track for a while, indeed it will be back out again at Castle Coombe (first picture below) in a couple of weeks time but going to the new Snetterton race track refired the passion to race again not that it ever really went away or that I ever slowed down, so here we are, were going racing again !.
Some know that a run in a 600bhp NASCAR Stock Car a year ago where by the 21 one of us were whittled down across three sessions and happily it showed me that by being fastest on the day and I at least have some speed left in me, because if I\'m going to race again I need to know I won\'t be just a tail end Charlie running at the back, especially when you think this car will have Racing Beat, Surf City Garage and Ballistic Race Car Battery’s associated plus my own Mazdarotaryparts company on top of that Hayward Rotary will supply the power needed to get the car at least competitive.
As far as we know there is not one RX-8 currently racing here in the UK on circuits so by racing one I hope to help make not only the RX-8 but also the Rotary engine be taken more seriously than it currently is plus this project my inspire more to get out there and race an RX-8.
Using suspension and brake knowledge gained from the track day sessions I am hoping to put together a competitive RX-8 “kit car†Racer working only from a lock up, which means that rather than the fully equipped workshops I used to run my race cars from this new RX-8 will need to be very much a drill and bolt together “kit car†Racer, i.e. bolt in cage etc, etc.
The reason for picking the Nippon Challenge Super GT class is because the RX-8 complies with very few series and to run in one of the lower Nippon Challenge classes the RX-8 either has too much power or not enough so it’s going to be the top class we will run the car in, hopefully at the sharp end of the field.
The series was also picked because it is a series that uses track day tyres and not slicks because buy using slicks means a whole lot more money going into the suspension and brakes as the cornering speed targets go way up with the addition of slick tyres, bottom line is that this will NOT be some big buck racer as we do not have lots of funds to build this car but hopefully I can show that the RX-8 will be portrayed as a competitive car that’s been easily screwed together without spending lots of money.
The car will be in my old race car yellow and blue colours and may look something like the images below but until it becomes yellow I won’t decide the final paint scheme.
Hoping to have the car out around October for running in and testing and as the weeks go on I will try and update the thread for anyone who is interested both here and from the RX8OC
Many know I raced various "tin tops" for many years and gained a few Championships and race wins and also that I have used our RX-8 on track for a while, indeed it will be back out again at Castle Coombe (first picture below) in a couple of weeks time but going to the new Snetterton race track refired the passion to race again not that it ever really went away or that I ever slowed down, so here we are, were going racing again !.
Some know that a run in a 600bhp NASCAR Stock Car a year ago where by the 21 one of us were whittled down across three sessions and happily it showed me that by being fastest on the day and I at least have some speed left in me, because if I\'m going to race again I need to know I won\'t be just a tail end Charlie running at the back, especially when you think this car will have Racing Beat, Surf City Garage and Ballistic Race Car Battery’s associated plus my own Mazdarotaryparts company on top of that Hayward Rotary will supply the power needed to get the car at least competitive.
As far as we know there is not one RX-8 currently racing here in the UK on circuits so by racing one I hope to help make not only the RX-8 but also the Rotary engine be taken more seriously than it currently is plus this project my inspire more to get out there and race an RX-8.
Using suspension and brake knowledge gained from the track day sessions I am hoping to put together a competitive RX-8 “kit car†Racer working only from a lock up, which means that rather than the fully equipped workshops I used to run my race cars from this new RX-8 will need to be very much a drill and bolt together “kit car†Racer, i.e. bolt in cage etc, etc.
The reason for picking the Nippon Challenge Super GT class is because the RX-8 complies with very few series and to run in one of the lower Nippon Challenge classes the RX-8 either has too much power or not enough so it’s going to be the top class we will run the car in, hopefully at the sharp end of the field.
The series was also picked because it is a series that uses track day tyres and not slicks because buy using slicks means a whole lot more money going into the suspension and brakes as the cornering speed targets go way up with the addition of slick tyres, bottom line is that this will NOT be some big buck racer as we do not have lots of funds to build this car but hopefully I can show that the RX-8 will be portrayed as a competitive car that’s been easily screwed together without spending lots of money.
The car will be in my old race car yellow and blue colours and may look something like the images below but until it becomes yellow I won’t decide the final paint scheme.
Hoping to have the car out around October for running in and testing and as the weeks go on I will try and update the thread for anyone who is interested both here and from the RX8OC
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: steve garbutt on April 29, 2012, 06:28:26 PM
Post by: steve garbutt on April 29, 2012, 06:28:26 PM
Cracking stuff Clive.
Will be nice to see a serious race spec rx8 competing :Thumbsup!
Will be nice to see a serious race spec rx8 competing :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Prof on April 29, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
Post by: Prof on April 29, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
I knew there would have to be some yellow on the car somewhere ;)
Nice project Clive - are you allowed to say much about the powerplant ? Will it be Renesis based ?
Nice project Clive - are you allowed to say much about the powerplant ? Will it be Renesis based ?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Clarky on April 29, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Post by: Clarky on April 29, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Great stuff Clive, the passion never leaves does it, graphics looks real good too!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on April 29, 2012, 08:02:53 PM
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on April 29, 2012, 08:02:53 PM
Ooooooh tasty! I\'ll keep an eye on this thread then for regular updates.
Ade
Ade
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 08:26:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 08:26:46 PM
If you are going yellow/blue may I suggest rx8 stormy blue? It is an amazing colour. Have it on my rx4.
Will you be using race fuel?
Will you be using race fuel?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
Quote from: Prof;821484I knew there would have to be some yellow on the car somewhere ;)
Nice project Clive - are you allowed to say much about the powerplant ? Will it be Renesis based ?
Power plant will be something of a hybrid that as far as I know has not been done to an RX-8
I can tell you that it will run a GT40 though :burnout
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
Clive giving carl full reign over the engine and a gt40 sized turbo will be 400rwhp, you know what Carl\'s like :D and also I had a look at the class your going for seems like they will have more than 400hp. The gt500 class is anything up too 500fwhp and around 1300kg including driver and fuel.
Are you going for a gt4094R? Carl\'s favourite flavour of turbo ATM.
Are you going for a gt4094R? Carl\'s favourite flavour of turbo ATM.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821510If you are going yellow/blue may I suggest rx8 stormy blue? It is an amazing colour. Have it on my rx4.
Will you be using race fuel?
I have already delivered the paint / RX-8 Lightning Yellow, same as the RX-4 and --------wait for it---------- Vauxhall Corsa "Aruba Blue":D
No additives allow but we should be able to run a race fuel mix
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
That blue is nice, but let\'s just refer to it as Clive\'s blue;) not vauxhall:( stormy blue is a pearl mettalic so would be hard to touch up after a few scrapes
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821524Are you going for a gt4094R? Carl\'s favourite flavour of turbo ATM.
Rules for this series are a minefield, I even spoke to the guy at Brands who wrote them and he struggled
They raised the rules to 500bhp to accomadate a heavy 500 bhp GTO and set no lower weight limit for Super GT so we should be fine.
Yes its "that" turbo and Carl knows very specifically what I need from the engine to race it how I want to, the engine will be built with capability of 550 bhp then we will run it at a "conservative" 400
Already talking to Turblown about the manifold
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821527That blue is nice, but let\'s just refer to it as Clive\'s blue;) not vauxhall:( stormy blue is a pearl mettalic so would be hard to touch up after a few scrapes
Bah, no sense of humor :rollin
Your right though , solid colours only, I have already had spray cans made up at the same time :chat, I have never classed myself as a dirty driver, but I\'ve never been adverse to leaning on a another car if the need arises ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:38:11 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: Clarky;821495Great stuff Clive, the passion never leaves does it, graphics looks real good too!
Thanks John, might not end up like that though as we had one go at lining it out on the car and couldn\'t get it to work so a "clive" blue stripe may be in order.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on April 29, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
Post by: Brett on April 29, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
Sounds like a great plan Clive :)
What sort of cars are people running in the series then? (Yes I could google it, but my brain hurts today! :p)
Can;t wait to see it and hear it in the flesh :D
What sort of cars are people running in the series then? (Yes I could google it, but my brain hurts today! :p)
Can;t wait to see it and hear it in the flesh :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
A revamped ex drift car Nissan 200 is currently leading the series
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on April 29, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Post by: shaunwil on April 29, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Sounds like an awesome project. Looking forward to see how it comes along.
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Prof on April 29, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
Post by: Prof on April 29, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
I like the \'clive\' blue - seen a similar colour on an Mx5 and it looks good.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2012, 02:53:19 AM
Post by: re japi on April 30, 2012, 02:53:19 AM
Nice project. Looking forward to see her run :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: B.Martin on April 30, 2012, 08:03:15 AM
Post by: B.Martin on April 30, 2012, 08:03:15 AM
Awesome stuff, l Love to see rotary cars being used how they were intended :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: clive;821529Rules for this series are a minefield, I even spoke to the guy at Brands who wrote them and he struggled
They raised the rules to 500bhp to accomadate a heavy 500 bhp GTO and set no lower weight limit for Super GT so we should be fine.
Yes its "that" turbo and Carl knows very specifically what I need from the engine to race it how I want to, the engine will be built with capability of 550 bhp then we will run it at a "conservative" 400
Already talking to Turblown about the manifold
It should be a good piece of art work in the engine bay.
What size wastegate will you be running? 60mm tial?
Are you going to be running the 18" rx8 wheels or dropping to 17"?
Iv got loads of questions but will ask them one at a time on here rather than asking you a million questions on the phone when I pay for the manifold flange later this week.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 12:54:36 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821613Are you going to be running the 18" rx8 wheels or dropping to 17"?
One at a time, staying with 18" so as not to alter the geometry but will alter gearing with the diff ratio
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: amt-automotive on April 30, 2012, 02:04:29 PM
Post by: amt-automotive on April 30, 2012, 02:04:29 PM
Brilliant news cant wait to see it on track,hopefully be a bit of FD in there too .
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 02:32:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: clive;821630One at a time, staying with 18" so as not to alter the geometry but will alter gearing with the diff ratio
I just realised I asked 2 questions there didn\'t I.
What gear ratio, 4.7?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Richard.C on April 30, 2012, 03:01:22 PM
Post by: Richard.C on April 30, 2012, 03:01:22 PM
Clive, something like this would make a nice weapon for that series:
http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm (http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm)
Richard
http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm (http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm)
Richard
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 03:11:44 PM
Yes Grant 4.7 :chat
Good find Richard, I think they would show me the door if I turned up in a Daytona wining RX-8 to enter a low cost series
Good find Richard, I think they would show me the door if I turned up in a Daytona wining RX-8 to enter a low cost series
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
what clutch will you be using? exedy triple carbon?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: iaint on April 30, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Post by: iaint on April 30, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: Richard.C;821657Clive, something like this would make a nice weapon for that series:
http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm (http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-car-specs.cfm)
Richard
Was about to link to that - caught a bit of the Grand Am (http://www.grand-am.com/Home.aspx) race from Miami on MotorsTV where this beauty was racing.
Apparently in the previous race it handed the Porsche and Ferrari entries a lesson!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Richard.C on April 30, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Post by: Richard.C on April 30, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
Yeah come on Clive you know you want one, at least drop a 20B in there so we can all live vicariously through you!
Richard
Richard
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on April 30, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
Post by: kevint on April 30, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
Clive,
So the secret is out, please let us know when/where you are running and maybe we can get a few supporters to come along.
Kevin
So the secret is out, please let us know when/where you are running and maybe we can get a few supporters to come along.
Kevin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821664what clutch will you be using? exedy triple carbon?
Ow, come on, this is a budget racer and an over 2k clutch would be money spent in the wrong direction :chat
I wanted a clutch assembly that has very low inertia so the clutch below is on order from Mazdatrix has a super light fly wheel and a Quartermaster 4.5 diameter twin plate
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:44:58 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:44:58 PM
Quote from: Richard.C;821694Yeah come on Clive you know you want one, at least drop a 20B in there so we can all live vicariously through you!
Richard
Trust me, I would love a 20b living in the engine bay :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: Kevint;821697Clive,
So the secret is out, Kevin
Yep, got to make this happen now :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Quote from: clive;821716Ow, come on, this is a budget racer and an over 2k clutch would be money spent in the wrong direction :chat
I wanted a clutch assembly that has very low inertia so the clutch below is on order from Mazdatrix has a super light fly wheel and a Quartermaster 4.5 diameter twin plate
That is definately super light weight!! Rev happy. How much is one of those clutches?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 09:39:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2012, 09:39:26 PM
What gear box you using?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: noyzboy on May 01, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
Post by: noyzboy on May 01, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
Looking forward to seeing Clive and his creation on track.
This might give you a few ideas
http://www.rileytech.com/PDF/GT.pdf
It is a budget buster, but was under the RX-8s that were in the mix at the Daytona 24 hours this year with this lot.
http://www.yellowdragonmotorsports.com/index.cfm?template=news&news_id=3604.
Now, where is the welding machine. LOL
Martin H
This might give you a few ideas
http://www.rileytech.com/PDF/GT.pdf
It is a budget buster, but was under the RX-8s that were in the mix at the Daytona 24 hours this year with this lot.
http://www.yellowdragonmotorsports.com/index.cfm?template=news&news_id=3604.
Now, where is the welding machine. LOL
Martin H
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 01, 2012, 09:54:43 PM
Post by: C J R on May 01, 2012, 09:54:43 PM
Hi Clive,
Great news and I too am looking forward to seeing this car develop.
Just to tempt you, Steve has a 20b available, remember its the fastest pallet in the north !!
Chris
Great news and I too am looking forward to seeing this car develop.
Just to tempt you, Steve has a 20b available, remember its the fastest pallet in the north !!
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2012, 02:29:57 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2012, 02:29:57 AM
The engine wouldn\'t even need opening either, just build a manifold and stick to gt40 on there and you would get more than 400hp and huge more amount of torque.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;821866The engine wouldn\'t even need opening either, just build a manifold and stick to gt40 on there and you would get more than 400hp and huge more amount of torque.
This was contemplated, but remember this is supposed to be a "cheap" easy to build race car,
I\'m already looking at the RX-8 six speed box as a disposable item, stick a 20b in and I\'m into gearboxes and diffs that I would rip apart like wet paper bags :Giggle
BTW, I said it was going to run 400 BHP / I didn\'t say that was it maximum horsepower potential :chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: C J R;821855Hi Clive,
Just to tempt you, Steve has a 20b available, remember its the fastest pallet in the north !!
Chris
Nah, it must have dry rot by now :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mir on May 02, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Post by: Mir on May 02, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: clive;821876stick a 20b in and I\'m into gearboxes and diffs that I would rip apart like wet paper bags :Giggle
I liked seeing that you are doing a consequential thinking-unlike many (including myself :()
Looking forward to your build:Thumbs-up
Mir
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on May 02, 2012, 12:47:28 PM
Post by: Brett on May 02, 2012, 12:47:28 PM
Was that a flywheel?!? I\'ve used more substantial washers than that! :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on May 04, 2012, 12:40:23 PM
Post by: jetpilot on May 04, 2012, 12:40:23 PM
Great to see another rotary out there racing and should only *hopefully, help the development of the RX8.
Very curious about your engine choice, however, i am sure it will be announced in good time!
Although i am sure i could find out if i wasnt so lazy, but forgetting car costs etc, whats the budget for entering the series Clive?
Very curious about your engine choice, however, i am sure it will be announced in good time!
Although i am sure i could find out if i wasnt so lazy, but forgetting car costs etc, whats the budget for entering the series Clive?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on May 04, 2012, 02:08:13 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on May 04, 2012, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;822127whats the budget for entering the series Clive?
£2.50:spank
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on May 04, 2012, 02:47:36 PM
Post by: jetpilot on May 04, 2012, 02:47:36 PM
I meant, what are the entry fees for a season :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Turblown on May 04, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
Post by: Turblown on May 04, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
Sounds like a lot of fun :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on May 05, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
Post by: Will66 on May 05, 2012, 03:08:29 PM
Looking forward to the progress on this! I was talking about this with Clive the other month and I now have nagging ideas that won\'t go away.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 06, 2012, 12:22:37 PM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2012, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;822138I meant, what are the entry fees for a season :)
Looks like £325 per round and you get practice and two races for that.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on May 06, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
Post by: jetpilot on May 06, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: clive;822307Looks like £325 per round and you get practice and two races for that.
Wow, i know there are a lot of costs involved but i think thats great value for money :)
Good luck Clive and im sure there would be many on here that would like to hear which rounds you will be doing :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 06, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;822310Wow, i know there are a lot of costs involved but i think thats great value for money :)
Good luck Clive and im sure there would be many on here that would like to hear which rounds you will be doing :)
Thank\'s Jon, I will attempt to be at all the rounds in the hope I can hunt for a Championship, please note I did say hope, early days yet got to get it up n running first :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 14, 2012, 04:02:19 PM
Post by: Casey on May 14, 2012, 04:02:19 PM
Great to see that the "cat is out of the bag" at last after all your research into whether producing an RX-8 to race competitively in the UK was feasible on a budget.
Really fantastic and excited to hear that the project is underway and, like everyone else, eager to hear more news as the car takes shape.
Really fantastic and excited to hear that the project is underway and, like everyone else, eager to hear more news as the car takes shape.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on May 15, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
Post by: seanp on May 15, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
Just can\'t wait to see what happens engine-wise :-)
Thinks... Hmmm... Take a Dremmel to those peripheral ports on the Renny? ;-)
Thinks... Hmmm... Take a Dremmel to those peripheral ports on the Renny? ;-)
Title: And now in glorious Technicolor !
Post by: clive on May 24, 2012, 10:24:54 PM
Post by: clive on May 24, 2012, 10:24:54 PM
Well the RX-8 has moved a little nearer as it is now in glorious Technicolor,
Really could not get the original concept to work once we tried to line out where the blue would go so as Mr Python would say, "and now for something completely different" !
Don\'t forget when I get the many many advertising stickers including race numbers on the car will look different yet again, just got to decide where we put them :eek:
The car has gained a nice and cheap Replikit nose to get air in plus a £160 e-bay rear wing.
On a practical side aerodynamically it should have been a plank on stilts wing but while I feel aesthetically these work on most other rotarys, I could not bring myself to fit one on an RX-8 (apologies to those in advance to those who like these)
Lastly as the car will have R3 rear lights it now has an R3 rear bumper cone, however this is for practical reasons as the fog lamp area will be cut out to let air out from under the car and hopefully give me room for the rear diffuser I also got from Replikit.
Still needs mopping to finish the paint job but it should be home next week and then I can get started properly on getting this together :Thumbsup!.
Really could not get the original concept to work once we tried to line out where the blue would go so as Mr Python would say, "and now for something completely different" !
Don\'t forget when I get the many many advertising stickers including race numbers on the car will look different yet again, just got to decide where we put them :eek:
The car has gained a nice and cheap Replikit nose to get air in plus a £160 e-bay rear wing.
On a practical side aerodynamically it should have been a plank on stilts wing but while I feel aesthetically these work on most other rotarys, I could not bring myself to fit one on an RX-8 (apologies to those in advance to those who like these)
Lastly as the car will have R3 rear lights it now has an R3 rear bumper cone, however this is for practical reasons as the fog lamp area will be cut out to let air out from under the car and hopefully give me room for the rear diffuser I also got from Replikit.
Still needs mopping to finish the paint job but it should be home next week and then I can get started properly on getting this together :Thumbsup!.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on May 24, 2012, 10:36:53 PM
Post by: Brett on May 24, 2012, 10:36:53 PM
That is full of win Clive :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2012, 12:18:09 AM
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2012, 12:18:09 AM
Coming along nicely :mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 25, 2012, 07:50:06 AM
Post by: C J R on May 25, 2012, 07:50:06 AM
Should have guessed that the majority of the colour would be Yellow !!
Looking good.
Looking good.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on May 25, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
Post by: Arnie_O on May 25, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
Like it would have been anything else Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on May 25, 2012, 11:15:35 PM
Post by: Will66 on May 25, 2012, 11:15:35 PM
That\'s looking cool!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: RX8Head on May 25, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
Post by: RX8Head on May 25, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
:Thumbsup! Coming along very nicely.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
:god....Awesome, good luck with this mucho jealous.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on May 26, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Post by: shaunwil on May 26, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Won\'t miss it out on track :Giggle
Did you see my request for some pads ???
Shaun
Did you see my request for some pads ???
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
was spectating at combe today and we had a round of the Nippon race series there!!! Front runners doing 1.16!!!!! mainly an evo and mr2 with a lexus turbo engine. Quick series!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on June 18, 2012, 11:04:51 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on June 18, 2012, 11:04:51 AM
Any driver that sees you coming up from behind will say "Yellow" (Hello) and when you have past them they will have the "blues"
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: boosted;826739was spectating at combe today and we had a round of the Nippon race series there!!! Front runners doing 1.16!!!!! mainly an evo and mr2 with a lexus turbo engine. Quick series!
A standard GTR does a lap in 114.5 apparently so that seems pretty slow for full on race car!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
Trust me 1.16 round Combe is quick !
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Let\'s not forget that the 50,000 quid GTR is a super car killer. So it\'s not shrouding it\'s quick round Combe.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Not forgetting that at all buddy. But how much would it cost to get a car to compete with that time? Not forgetting that is standard, no boost increase, no lightening, no fancy suspension etc etc
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 07:12:43 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 18, 2012, 07:12:43 PM
Would be interesting to see what time Jon from Atomic was lapping Combe!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on June 19, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on June 19, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
The Putts with engine built and tuned by us regularly lapped Combe in the 1.11\'s and 1.12\'s in Castle Combe GT\'s and no one else with a rotary has been that quick so far.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;826878The Putts with engine built and tuned by us regularly lapped Combe in the 1.11\'s and 1.12\'s in Castle Combe GT\'s and no one else with a rotary has been that quick so far.
That sounds more like it :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 12:15:15 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 12:15:15 PM
Anyone done any Hillclimbs in a rotary?
I am off to Gurston for a school day on July 12th!
I am off to Gurston for a school day on July 12th!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2012, 12:47:17 PM
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2012, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;826884Anyone done any Hillclimbs in a rotary?
"RotorHeid" and "Competition PZ" on the forum, both based in Scotland, are both regular Hillclimbers in rotaries.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: TRIND-FD on June 19, 2012, 07:04:21 PM
Post by: TRIND-FD on June 19, 2012, 07:04:21 PM
Top work Clive, and excellent choice of clutch. :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
Post by: jetpilot on June 19, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Casey;826887"RotorHeid" and "Competition PZ" on the forum, both based in Scotland, are both regular Hillclimbers in rotaries.
Thanks Casey, interested in the rotaries classification!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on June 22, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
Post by: Will66 on June 22, 2012, 09:10:11 PM
Competition PZ runs in a A2 I think. But he has an RX8 PZ on semi slicks with no other mods.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: pbailey on July 16, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
Post by: pbailey on July 16, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
Watch RX8\'s racing in the Trans Am series on Motors TV. They race against Ferrari 458, Porsche 911, Corvettes and Camaros and have been winning some of the races.
Engines give around 480 BHP and with the body kit they look great. Go to Dempsey racing website for full spec of car. Also good luck with your project Clive. Next time I am getting the RX7 serviced at Carl\'s I hope to see the car / engine being worked on.
Peter B
Engines give around 480 BHP and with the body kit they look great. Go to Dempsey racing website for full spec of car. Also good luck with your project Clive. Next time I am getting the RX7 serviced at Carl\'s I hope to see the car / engine being worked on.
Peter B
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 16, 2012, 04:27:25 PM
Post by: clive on July 16, 2012, 04:27:25 PM
Thanks Peter, yes good to see all those RX-8\'s out there mixing it up :D
You may see the engine at Carl\'s but I am building all the rest myself :Thumbs-up
Nothing to update on the thread ATM as I have been busy chopping as much weight out of the car and working on the suspension, hopefully my new safety devices cage thats on order will arrive soon, then I can really get on with it :cool.
You may see the engine at Carl\'s but I am building all the rest myself :Thumbs-up
Nothing to update on the thread ATM as I have been busy chopping as much weight out of the car and working on the suspension, hopefully my new safety devices cage thats on order will arrive soon, then I can really get on with it :cool.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 16, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 16, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
What sort of areas have you been able to chop weight out of? Have you been weighing all the ejected parts to see how much you have saved?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on July 16, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Post by: jetpilot on July 16, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
I would have thought the season was well under way by now?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on July 16, 2012, 07:12:31 PM
Post by: Will66 on July 16, 2012, 07:12:31 PM
2012 season is, I think this is aiming for 2013.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 17, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Post by: clive on July 17, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;829481What sort of areas have you been able to chop weight out of? Have you been weighing all the ejected parts to see how much you have saved?
I have not been weighing things but getting rid of the six air bags including the huge one on the dash will have have helped, but what has surprised me is the weight of the doors of which severe gutting is taking place including plastic front windows :chat
The other area for weight loss is that the heater and air con system has now gone and this was a real monster taking up 3/4 of the width of the dash to say nothing of the weight of it all!.
Pilkington Glass are currently making me proper DOT approved heated front screens for the RX-8 and they informed me the other day that these will be the only other screens to use the double heated system they use in the new McLaren road car due to the depth of an RX-8 screen :chat
All in all I have found myself staggered at how well an RX-8 performs now I know its dragging all that weight around:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 17, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Post by: clive on July 17, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Will66;8295032012 season is, I think this is aiming for 2013.
2013 is the plan, fingers crossed.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on July 17, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
Post by: shaunwil on July 17, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
Wow, will be cool to see what it tips the scales at when done !
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: madder on July 18, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
Post by: madder on July 18, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
you didn\'t fancy relieving Dragon of there set of carbon front doors then..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX8-Carbon-fibre-doors-Lightweight-Beautiful-Carbon-Finish-for-RX8-/110909406458?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d2b73cfa
i wonder how many times Aston has looked at them..:p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX8-Carbon-fibre-doors-Lightweight-Beautiful-Carbon-Finish-for-RX8-/110909406458?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d2b73cfa
i wonder how many times Aston has looked at them..:p
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: marcusd666 on July 19, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Post by: marcusd666 on July 19, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Good luck Clive with this project it will be nice to see an RX8 on the track will have to come and watch you put it through its paces.
Will keep an eye on this thread.....
Will keep an eye on this thread.....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 19, 2012, 07:48:49 PM
Post by: clive on July 19, 2012, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: marcusd666;829796Good luck Clive with this project it will be nice to see an RX8 on the track will have to come and watch you put it through its paces.
Will keep an eye on this thread.....
Thanks Marcus:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
How extensive is the cage you are having installed Clive? Will it outweigh the weight saving you have done and make it heavier :(? Is there a lot of sound deadening tar on the rx8? The rx4 had at least 15kilos of that stuff stuck too it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 20, 2012, 03:01:42 PM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2012, 03:01:42 PM
Here we go Grant here is the cage that\'s on order, as you can see its a bolt in that\'s fairly comprehensive and also one of the reasons I\'m getting as much weight out as possible.
BTW, At least the RX-8 hasn\'t got 2 foot thick slabs of sound deadening black goo like the RX-4, horrible stuff to remove, dug it off other race cars I\'ve built with a blow lamp, scraper and wire brush , and boy does it burn you if it gets on your skin while your doing it :eek
BTW, At least the RX-8 hasn\'t got 2 foot thick slabs of sound deadening black goo like the RX-4, horrible stuff to remove, dug it off other race cars I\'ve built with a blow lamp, scraper and wire brush , and boy does it burn you if it gets on your skin while your doing it :eek
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 20, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 20, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
That cage looks really good. Doesn\'t like too heavy though so shouldn\'t outweigh the removals :) is this something you will be offering for sale as upgrade for parts for the rx8? Can it be bolted in with the interior still installed?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: najiru on July 20, 2012, 05:04:29 PM
Post by: najiru on July 20, 2012, 05:04:29 PM
Looks good Clive, I\'ve said for a while if I was building a new racer I\'d use an rx8. Looks like you have quite a rapid build schedule too!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on July 20, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
Post by: shaunwil on July 20, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
No Passenger seat for trackdays ??
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: marcusd666 on July 20, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
Post by: marcusd666 on July 20, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
Just going back to the colour scheme did you not think of RX8 winning blue ?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
Any further news on this?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: marcusd666;829919Just going back to the colour scheme did you not think of RX8 winning blue ?
Hi Marcus, no :( the blue I used was very close to what I had on a lot of my former race cars :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
Hi Will,
It\'s coming along (slowly) here\'s a picture a few weeks ago with it\'s safety devices cage fitted along with the Momo seat, since then the doors are back on, lightend as far as possible, i.e. really just outer shells with perspex windows, R3 backend is all fitted properly plus lots of other odds and sods are complete.
I will get another picture up in a couple of weeks when it\'s got all the suspension fitted and front end back on so it looks like a real car.
It\'s coming along (slowly) here\'s a picture a few weeks ago with it\'s safety devices cage fitted along with the Momo seat, since then the doors are back on, lightend as far as possible, i.e. really just outer shells with perspex windows, R3 backend is all fitted properly plus lots of other odds and sods are complete.
I will get another picture up in a couple of weeks when it\'s got all the suspension fitted and front end back on so it looks like a real car.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on September 26, 2012, 12:37:46 PM
Post by: jetpilot on September 26, 2012, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: clive;836832lightend as far as possible
Are you going to weigh it to see what its got down to Clive?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
Looking forward to seeing this finished. It is giving me ideas.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;836839Are you going to weigh it to see what its got down to Clive?
Yes, as it will be interesting to know.
From what somebody else has told me who has just stripped an RX-8 for trackdays and had his weighed it should come up as 200 kilos lighter than stock, mind you the full FIA spec cage was damn heavy :eek
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;829905No Passenger seat for trackdays ??
Shaun
As I can see a couple of trackdays on the agenda with Japfest being one for setting the car up etc, yes I may well put one in.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
Come on Clive, chop chop. Get this thing finished. Hehehe ;) is the engine done and fitted?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 03:00:22 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;836847Come on Clive, chop chop. Get this thing finished. Hehehe ;) is the engine done and fitted?
Work and customers have to come first so I\'m grabbing time on it when I can,
Should see an engine soon to go with the nice big GT40 and Trust intercooler I have:mmmm
After this weekends Japshow the Tein Mono Flex suspension will come off the road RX-8 having had its last trackday at Cadwell recently with stock shocks and Eibach springs going back on along with the stock bonnet.
The Teins (with different spring rates) along with Racing Beat roll bars and adjustable end links and the polybush kit thats already fitted will then all find its way onto the Race car.
(RX-8 at it\'s last trackday below, picture courtisy of Ian Hypothermia)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 04:28:11 PM
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 04:28:11 PM
GT40? That\'s a lot of turbo!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
What size got side have you gone for Clive? As that is a large turbo but should net you 400 easily. Should imagine the hotside will be small as you don\'t want huge HP??
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jetpilot on September 26, 2012, 05:26:36 PM
Post by: jetpilot on September 26, 2012, 05:26:36 PM
Quote from: clive;836843Yes, as it will be interesting to know.
From what somebody else has told me who has just stripped an RX-8 for trackdays and had his weighed it should come up as 200 kilos lighter than stock, mind you the full FIA spec cage was damn heavy :eek
Thats a good chunk of weight :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 07:18:17 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;836864What size got side have you gone for Clive?
Can\'t remember and its sitting at Carls in the box:3Confused, although I will get him to bring it to the pod at the weekend
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
Quote from: Will66;836862GT40? That\'s a lot of turbo!
O\' Yes:chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 26, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 26, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
GT40 is huge for 400hp!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2012, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: zeppelin101;836884GT40 is huge for 400hp!
Having used GT35\'s and GT42\'s on Rotarys in the past, I agree :Thumbs-up
However, its actualy being built for 550 because if it\'s built for 400 tops it would be tough to turn the wick up, much easier to turn it down with the option of more if needed :burnout
Plus i\'m hoping for it to be transmission friendly (ish):eek:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 09:42:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2012, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: clive;836887Having used GT35\'s and GT42\'s on Rotarys in the past, I agree :Thumbs-up
However, its actualy being built for 550 because if it\'s built for 400 tops it would be tough to turn the wick up, much easier to turn it down with the option of more if needed :burnout
Plus i\'m hoping for it to be transmission friendly (ish):eek:
Are you going to bolt the box to the chassis? Also put a steel sandwich plate in between the bottom of the inspection plate?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 10:00:08 PM
Post by: Will66 on September 26, 2012, 10:00:08 PM
Will you be using the RX8 six speeder?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on September 26, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Post by: Casey on September 26, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
I can answer that one - "yes", as Clive very kindly sold me the spare 6 speed box he had bought as a racecar spare when mine gave out at Snetterton (the day after I changed to the "higher spec" Fuchs Syn5 "Racing" gearbox oil :().
He is pretty sure he will blow one at some stage and wanted a spare available. With the number of 8\'s being broken there are plenty of cheap 2nd hand boxes around it doesn\'t seem to make sense to repair one, easier to replace and scrap the blown one......
He is pretty sure he will blow one at some stage and wanted a spare available. With the number of 8\'s being broken there are plenty of cheap 2nd hand boxes around it doesn\'t seem to make sense to repair one, easier to replace and scrap the blown one......
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 27, 2012, 12:44:25 AM
Post by: Will66 on September 27, 2012, 12:44:25 AM
Aha, interesting.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 27, 2012, 07:20:52 AM
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 27, 2012, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: clive;836887Plus i\'m hoping for it to be transmission friendly (ish):eek:
Depends rather on the torque output and shock load.
From memory, RX8 boxes share similar (if not the same) internals to an S15 box which seem to start popping at ~350lbft torque.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 27, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
Post by: clive on September 27, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: zeppelin101;836900Depends rather on the torque output and shock load.
When the RX-8 first came out it was said that the box was very fragile, however it would seem from Drag Racing in FD\'s where there\'s much more drama for the gear box going on that they are not that bad, so fingers crossed.
Also worth knowing that I\'m trying to put together a simple "affordable" race car so others may be able to follow :).
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on September 27, 2012, 10:08:37 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on September 27, 2012, 10:08:37 AM
GT 40/94 is really great turbo for circuit.
Full boost will be 4000 rpm.
Max revs 9500.
1bar boost = just over 500 hp flywheel.
Full boost will be 4000 rpm.
Max revs 9500.
1bar boost = just over 500 hp flywheel.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
What port work? Major extend port?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on September 27, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
Post by: Will66 on September 27, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
The RX8 box is an Aisin box, the AZ6, which I think was fitted to the S2000, the S15, the Lexus IS200 and the mk II Mazda MX5 with Six Speed Boxes. Toyota wouldn\'t fit it to the IS300 because they felt it wouldn\'t cope with the 218lb ft of torque from the 2JZ-GE motor.
However Chris Impey used to run an RX8 box on his drag car before going for a half tub and a Lenco 5 speed air shifter. I think it ran into the 9s on it. So it\'s not a chocolate affair. The series 1 box does seem to be a lot tougher than the series 2 box (the R3) which came from the Mx5, the synchros on that seems to be made of spit and kleenex. Personally I reckon that the MX5 box isn\'t up to a 9000 rpm input shaft and Mazda tried to save money fitting it to the RX8.
However Chris Impey used to run an RX8 box on his drag car before going for a half tub and a Lenco 5 speed air shifter. I think it ran into the 9s on it. So it\'s not a chocolate affair. The series 1 box does seem to be a lot tougher than the series 2 box (the R3) which came from the Mx5, the synchros on that seems to be made of spit and kleenex. Personally I reckon that the MX5 box isn\'t up to a 9000 rpm input shaft and Mazda tried to save money fitting it to the RX8.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on September 27, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
Post by: shaunwil on September 27, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
If you look between me and Chris I haven\'t damaged an FD box with the GT3574R and Chris has lunched a few FD boxes with the GT40. Not sure if mines more progressive on boost earlier. The dyno graph is very straight in torque.
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;836912If you look between me and Chris I haven\'t damaged an FD box with the GT3574R and Chris has lunched a few FD boxes with the GT40. Not sure if mines more progressive on boost earlier. The dyno graph is very straight in torque.
Shaun
Maybe your not giving it enough abuse? Have you bolted the box to your chassis?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on September 27, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
Post by: shaunwil on September 27, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
Box isn\'t bolted to the chassis with a brace but there are quite a few under body braces.
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 28, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
Post by: zeppelin101 on September 28, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;836912If you look between me and Chris I haven\'t damaged an FD box with the GT3574R and Chris has lunched a few FD boxes with the GT40. Not sure if mines more progressive on boost earlier. The dyno graph is very straight in torque.
Shaun
I don\'t understand what you\'re saying.
The car with the smaller turbo hasn\'t lunched as many boxes as the car with the bigger turbo?
Surely that\'s elementary as the car with the larger turbo will more than likely generate more instantaneous torque through the drivetrain and smash it to hell.
Anyway. Provided there is a fairly progressive torque curve and you have an element of mechanical sympathy you should be able to push the box beyond it\'s design limit for a while at least. Same with most mechanical devices, it\'ll just have a drastically reduced life span.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on September 29, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Post by: shaunwil on September 29, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
We run similar power levels or around 450bhp at the flywheel but I see boost sooner.
I don\'t really get a huge surge of torque, more like the NA setup where it just keeps pulling :D
Shaun
I don\'t really get a huge surge of torque, more like the NA setup where it just keeps pulling :D
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
Thought it was about time for an update to let you know that the project is coming along OK,
As you will see the cage, seat and belts are in along with Tein Mono Flex coil overs fitted with stronger springs than normal for these shocks all now.
Plus an Energy Suspension urethane bushing kit front and rear, with new lower arms as I don\'t want a ball joint popping out when I\'m up launching of kerbs ;)
Racing Beat roll bars, along with adjustable drop links complete the suspension, Rear Racing Brake two piece rear brakes are on, under bonnet rewiring is complete which you will see when the engine goes in.
With the body, as you will see below, the R3 rear end and nose is now finished plus extensive as is weight loss program (not me, the car :flamed)
As you will see the doors, that weighed a ton now don\'t, with perspex side windows screwed into place, plus no heater or air con that all weighs a lot as I will not rely on the heated front screen we put in this week to keep the screen clear.
Lightweight Racing Beat "race" silencer is on saving a further 35Lbs
Staggered me how much the doors weigh, there\'s even a lump of roll bar that’s been cut out of the small rear doors !
"Hopefully", funds and getting parts permitting we will be out in February "testing", I\'ll keep you posted.
p.s. the car will look different again next time when all the many stickers are on :Thumbsup!
As you will see the cage, seat and belts are in along with Tein Mono Flex coil overs fitted with stronger springs than normal for these shocks all now.
Plus an Energy Suspension urethane bushing kit front and rear, with new lower arms as I don\'t want a ball joint popping out when I\'m up launching of kerbs ;)
Racing Beat roll bars, along with adjustable drop links complete the suspension, Rear Racing Brake two piece rear brakes are on, under bonnet rewiring is complete which you will see when the engine goes in.
With the body, as you will see below, the R3 rear end and nose is now finished plus extensive as is weight loss program (not me, the car :flamed)
As you will see the doors, that weighed a ton now don\'t, with perspex side windows screwed into place, plus no heater or air con that all weighs a lot as I will not rely on the heated front screen we put in this week to keep the screen clear.
Lightweight Racing Beat "race" silencer is on saving a further 35Lbs
Staggered me how much the doors weigh, there\'s even a lump of roll bar that’s been cut out of the small rear doors !
"Hopefully", funds and getting parts permitting we will be out in February "testing", I\'ll keep you posted.
p.s. the car will look different again next time when all the many stickers are on :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 08:13:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 08:13:12 PM
few more pics
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
That clutch is amazing!! Your LIM looks similar to the one on my rx4 :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 25, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 25, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
That clutch is tiny and that flywheel looks very light. That\'s a substantial turbo though. Are you mating the LIM to an RX8 UIM or is it going to be an REW UIM?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;842494That clutch is amazing!! Your LIM looks similar to the one on my rx4 :)
Apparently the clutch will take WAY more than I\'m going to throw at it.
Should look similar, poor old RX-4 is about to lose it\'s engine for this project (only joking :Giggle)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:11:20 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: Will66;842500That clutch is tiny and that flywheel looks very light. That\'s a substantial turbo though. Are you mating the LIM to an RX8 UIM or is it going to be an REW UIM?
I think the whole assembly weighs in at just 4.5 Lbs :eek:
For the engine, I have planned out somthing different to normal but I can tell you it won\'t have pistons :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: clive;842507Apparently the clutch will take WAY more than I\'m going to throw at it.
Should look similar, poor old RX-4 is about to lose it\'s engine for this project (only joking :Giggle)
You can come and get it out of the rx4 if you want but mum and dad have 2 big Great Danes and a sheep dog guarding it, so by all means;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 25, 2012, 09:22:56 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 25, 2012, 09:22:56 PM
No pistons, always good, looking forward to seeing this actually working!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
Not your one Grant , this one :D
I\'m looking forward to this as well Will:3gears-rh
I\'m looking forward to this as well Will:3gears-rh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 09:58:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2012, 09:58:31 PM
Aah oops, hahaha, buts its only a 12a:-(
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on November 25, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Post by: Brett on November 25, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Great to see progress :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on November 25, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
Post by: shaunwil on November 25, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
Awesome progress ! Are you going glued in windows too ? Can\'t you get FRP doors for the Rx8 ?
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 09:27:10 AM
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;842531Awesome progress ! Are you going glued in windows too ? Can\'t you get FRP doors for the Rx8 ?
Shaun
Can\'t find FRP doors but I may make my own further down the road and before anyone says carbon, don\'t forget this is a budget racer :D
The front side windows are regulation 4mm thick perspex cut to size from the originals, slid up into position then 6 small black screws hold them there (not sure if you can see these in the picture).
A Naca duct will probably be fitted but if need be I can remove the passenger window if its a hot day.
No advantage in making rear side widows as they weigh just about nothing anyway.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
Can you have window nets instead of plastic?
I\'m really looking forward to the final weight of the car, I wonder how close to a tonne you will get.
I\'m really looking forward to the final weight of the car, I wonder how close to a tonne you will get.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
Widows are regulation thick so I should not need a net
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
I meant instead if the windows, bad explaining on my part:(
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 12:13:02 PM
Post by: clive on November 26, 2012, 12:13:02 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;842559I meant instead if the windows, bad explaining on my part:(
You could run a net instead of a window on the drivers side then open on the passenger side with no wiindow or net
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: marcusd666 on November 26, 2012, 02:23:12 PM
Post by: marcusd666 on November 26, 2012, 02:23:12 PM
This coming on really well Clive you have done a great job up to now can\'t wait to see it running next year.
Keep up the good work
Keep up the good work
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
This is looking great...i cant wait to see it on track next year.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 08:56:58 AM
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 08:56:58 AM
Wont you get high drag with out the windows? (I might have misunderstood what you are debating ;) )
Oh and the project looks great! Love the RX8 as a race car! :)
Oh and the project looks great! Love the RX8 as a race car! :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on December 03, 2012, 10:46:17 AM
Post by: seanp on December 03, 2012, 10:46:17 AM
Coming on nicely Clive.
"Is there a name and a special formula behind the design of those spade-shaped inltakes as seen on many racing cars & aircraft etc.?"
Yes - it is an "NACA inlet" (or "submerged-duct entrance") - Wikipedia even leads to the original research and design paper giving the ranges of parameters used for such inlets :)
Quote from: clive;842551A Naca duct will probably be fitted but if need be I can remove the passenger window if its a hot day.You\'ve just answered a very long-standing question I\'ve never discovered an answer to, despite asking several engineers etc.
"Is there a name and a special formula behind the design of those spade-shaped inltakes as seen on many racing cars & aircraft etc.?"
Yes - it is an "NACA inlet" (or "submerged-duct entrance") - Wikipedia even leads to the original research and design paper giving the ranges of parameters used for such inlets :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on December 03, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
Post by: Brett on December 03, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
I have a good source book that contains those formulas :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 03, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2012, 02:07:12 PM
Really want to keep the windows in for drag reasons, but a hot Rotary and a hot day may require the window out :eek:
Naca duct would be picked because as far as I know the duct offers no drag because the air flow is undisturbed but will still "spill" an airflow into the cabin or engine bay where flush fitted .
BTW, The internet may give a different interpretation but the above is my understanding
Naca duct would be picked because as far as I know the duct offers no drag because the air flow is undisturbed but will still "spill" an airflow into the cabin or engine bay where flush fitted .
BTW, The internet may give a different interpretation but the above is my understanding
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on December 03, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
Post by: seanp on December 03, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: clive;843486Naca duct would be picked because as far as I know the duct offers no drag because the air flow is undisturbed but will still "spill" an airflow into the cabin or engine bay where flush fitted .Correct; the shape specifically allows air to enter the opening, and can encourage by creating vortexes and wing-like low pressures on the outside; whilst reducing any drag on the outside...
BTW, The internet may give a different interpretation but the above is my understanding
T\'internet links to the ORIGINAL research papers including wind-tunnel testing of lots of varying profiles and gives tables / formulas for various applications...
This was designed for air-intakes for jet aircraft though... I suspect that these days, when used on the majority of racing/rally cars; that close approximations are used, and not necessarily calculated to the optimum? ;)
But anyhow - now I know the NAME of them, I am more than happy. :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 06:15:06 PM
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: clive;843486Really want to keep the windows in for drag reasons, but a hot Rotary and a hot day may require the window out :eek:
I think thats something race drivers learn to live with? (Im not a race driver, so i dont know ;) )
You can also do a roof scoope? Naca ducts are nice tho :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on December 03, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
Post by: shaunwil on December 03, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
I\'m sure I\'ve seen some FD\'s with vents in the rear plastic screens to help drag the heat out of the back of the car.
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Post by: Buhl on December 03, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;843517I\'m sure I\'ve seen some FD\'s with vents in the rear plastic screens to help drag the heat out of the back of the car.
Shaun
The FD im helping out on got that, and then some small pipes bended out the side windows to catch air, it is then beeing routed straight on the driver.
He gets hot on a sunny day! But not anything a soda after the race can\'t fix! :)
The races are 20mins each time. + sitting in the car before and after.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on December 03, 2012, 09:17:28 PM
Post by: C J R on December 03, 2012, 09:17:28 PM
I watched some guys racing Gen 1\'s in Phoenix in an endurance race. In the passenger side was fitted a well insulated ice box (full of ice) with a 2" plastic pipe and air pump which drew the cold air from the top of the ice box and blew it on the driver.
Okay, so the track temps were around 90 degrees at 9am, but you get the idea.
Would\'t suggest you would need that in the UK though.
Ducting cold air in at the front and reverse ducts allowing hot air out of the rear side windows seems like a good way of circulating air. (Just ask Steve how hot his RX8 gets without its interior, I think you may loose weight per race !!).
Chris
Okay, so the track temps were around 90 degrees at 9am, but you get the idea.
Would\'t suggest you would need that in the UK though.
Ducting cold air in at the front and reverse ducts allowing hot air out of the rear side windows seems like a good way of circulating air. (Just ask Steve how hot his RX8 gets without its interior, I think you may loose weight per race !!).
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
The extra heat maybe what Clive needs to lose those extra pounds giving him the edge over the other racers;) :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 04, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
Quote from: Buhl;843515I think thats something race drivers learn to live with? (Im not a race driver, so i dont know ;) )
I agree completely, but the window is able to come out on test and track days where speed is not quite as essential if I want to, but race days !, well, thats a different matter :Viking
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 04, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
Quote from: C J R;843556Ducting cold air in at the front and reverse ducts allowing hot air out of the rear side windows seems like a good way of circulating air.
Chris
I\'m there already Chris, the thin rear windows weighed just about nothing and so I refitted them so they could still be opened to let the hot air out, and that\'s just from me, see you didn\'t know I talk in the car :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Buhl on December 06, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
Post by: Buhl on December 06, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: clive;843642I agree completely, but the window is able to come out on test and track days where speed is not quite as essential if I want to, but race days !, well, thats a different matter :Viking
I can see the smartness in that :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Oliver on December 06, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Post by: Oliver on December 06, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
Hi Clive, It\'s super to hear you will be racing again and in a RX8. The car looks great so far. I will definitely follow your progress...
You talked about letting the hot cabin air out, using the side rear windows... since the FD don\'t have them, I made 3 holes and added a cover for rain/aero\'s. It has worked well for me.. maybe it could work for you.
Have FUN and best of luck to you in 2013.
You talked about letting the hot cabin air out, using the side rear windows... since the FD don\'t have them, I made 3 holes and added a cover for rain/aero\'s. It has worked well for me.. maybe it could work for you.
Have FUN and best of luck to you in 2013.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 17, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
Post by: clive on December 17, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: Oliver;843837Have FUN and best of luck to you in 2013.
Many thanks Oliver, good to see you are still around,:Santa
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Clive have you thought of Mounting the radiator at the rear?
(http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55388&d=1353874232)
Takes some heat out of the engine bay and prevents and damage from debris and tyre walls.
(http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55388&d=1353874232)
Takes some heat out of the engine bay and prevents and damage from debris and tyre walls.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 19, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;844907Clive have you thought of Mounting the radiator at the rear?
Yes it\'s an excellent way forward and Rallycross cars used this for years.
I know that in the series that the two Skylines that have dominated this years Classic Touring Car Racing Club’s championship that the RX-7 of Paul Dobson, seen below, races in were allowed to put the Radiators in the boot for this year which upset a few including Rod Birley as apparently they did it for weight distribution reasons!
But as far as I know normally water radiators must remain within the confines of the engine compartment, however its a good point, worth investigating as it ensures good cold air to the intercooler.
It does go on though as you normally then need a separate bulk head plus scoops to get the air in.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
It\'s worth investigating Clive, I can\'t see them arguing its a weight distribution cheat as its may only be a couple of kilos when full! If you mount fans blowing through the rad from inside the car it will also suck any heat out of the cabin. You could add a roof scoop or naca duct in the roof with a duct down to rad for cool air feed.
It\'s a no brained in my eyes, it\'s also a safeguard for the engine. A hole in the IC isn\'t too bad, a hole in the radiator is really bad!
If I get around to having another FD I will be doing this mod, but mounting the rad on the roll cage sticking out the rear screen.
Using AN fittings welded to rad will ensure good strong piping and the AN fitting on the water pump housing. You shouldn\'t need to go with an EWP as the standard pump should be able to push the water around the system. Which also keeps a thermostat.
It\'s a no brained in my eyes, it\'s also a safeguard for the engine. A hole in the IC isn\'t too bad, a hole in the radiator is really bad!
If I get around to having another FD I will be doing this mod, but mounting the rad on the roll cage sticking out the rear screen.
Using AN fittings welded to rad will ensure good strong piping and the AN fitting on the water pump housing. You shouldn\'t need to go with an EWP as the standard pump should be able to push the water around the system. Which also keeps a thermostat.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 08:27:56 AM
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 08:27:56 AM
The Rotary engine will be BANNED in the Quaife Motorsport News Championship this year,anyway all radiators had to be fitted in the original place in there regs.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 08, 2013, 08:38:32 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 08, 2013, 08:38:32 AM
Why are they getting banned? I think it\'s about time a rotary only class was created where piston engines are banned except v8s so we can beat them
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: steve garbutt on January 08, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Post by: steve garbutt on January 08, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: C J R;843556(Just ask Steve how hot his RX8 gets without its interior, I think you may loose weight per race !!).
Chris
As Chris says, it gets hot and so much hotter than i ever thought it would.
On the drive down to Brands in December i jammed a bottle of Coke between the drivers seat and the transition tunnel to sip on the way there, when i arrived it was as hot as a freshly made cup of coffee.
Even with the blowers on cold mad almost no difference.
When i change my windows to lexan, i will be putting a drivers side vent on them.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: Pukka;846929The Rotary engine will be BANNED in the Quaife Motorsport News Championship this year,anyway all radiators had to be fitted in the original place in there regs.
At least back in the eighty\'s it was more subtle when after the Gen 1 won the British Touring Car Championship two years on the trot, they brought in the rule that the model had to have four doors which effectively banned the RX-7 and the Rotary overnight :Hammer
Phil any thoughts on what series you will enter for 2013 ?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 10:14:22 AM
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 10:14:22 AM
Happy new year Clive!! off to the Autosport Show to have a look @ what\'s running this year,I know 2 poss 3 of the big powered Skylines are fitting turbo restrictors,and changing back front mount rads for the Quaife series, there\'s Semsec,(Mainly Lydden) Intermarque,Thundersaloons,Eurosaloons, Castle Combe GT\'s,If I can get the budget together I would like to do the GT Cup, Having done a couple of Time Attack\'s I do really want to race,other then just timed runs.
What are your thought\'s now Mr Birley has stopped us entry our local championship!!
What are your thought\'s now Mr Birley has stopped us entry our local championship!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 03:24:29 PM
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: Pukka;846934What are your thought\'s now Mr Birley has stopped us entry our local championship!!
I would have thought the Skylines were just as much of a danger because they may well still produce lots of torque even though strangled with a restrictor
Hopefully I will bump into Rod be in the mean time have you seen this written down anywhere or is it whispers at this stage
Title: QMN 2013 Draft Regs
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
Post by: Pukka on January 08, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
5. Any engine which has had it capacity increased by more than 400cc from its original production size
or size option shall move up a class
6. Any engine which has had its cylinder head reversed on the block shall move up a class
5.7.2 Prohibited Modifications:
1. Only a single supercharger or turbocharger may be fitted
2. Rotary engine prohibited.
3. The Championship is established for front-engined vehicles only. Amendments and alterations to
engine arrangements within these regulations do not permit the relocation of the engine to the rear of
the chassis/shell. Only front-engined vehicles are eligible for this championship.
4. Only engines derived from mass produced production cars are eligible.
5.7.3 Location:
or size option shall move up a class
6. Any engine which has had its cylinder head reversed on the block shall move up a class
5.7.2 Prohibited Modifications:
1. Only a single supercharger or turbocharger may be fitted
2. Rotary engine prohibited.
3. The Championship is established for front-engined vehicles only. Amendments and alterations to
engine arrangements within these regulations do not permit the relocation of the engine to the rear of
the chassis/shell. Only front-engined vehicles are eligible for this championship.
4. Only engines derived from mass produced production cars are eligible.
5.7.3 Location:
Class A
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, free provided engine remains located in engine bay at front of car
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[/SIZE][/FONT]Class B,C,D,E
1. Cylinder block and crankshaft must remain in their original location as envisaged by the cars
original manufacturer within 5cm
2. Engine cylinder blocks to remain mounted at the same angle as production +/- 15 degrees or
vehicle to move up a class.
5.7.4 Oil/Water Cooling
1. Oil coolers, and additional water radiators are permitted providing they are located within the
periphery of the bodywork. These are not permitted in the driver’s compartment.
2. Engine coolant radiators must be mounted in the engine bay, otherwise cooling systems are free
5.7.5 Induction Systems:
1 Maximum intake size for any super/turbocharger is 58mm, for engines over 2500cc maximum
intake size is 50mm
2 Any forced induction vehicle over 1600cc under 1100kgs (including driver) must breathe through1. Cylinder block and crankshaft must remain in their original location as envisaged by the cars
original manufacturer within 5cm
2. Engine cylinder blocks to remain mounted at the same angle as production +/- 15 degrees or
vehicle to move up a class.
5.7.4 Oil/Water Cooling
1. Oil coolers, and additional water radiators are permitted providing they are located within the
periphery of the bodywork. These are not permitted in the driver’s compartment.
2. Engine coolant radiators must be mounted in the engine bay, otherwise cooling systems are free
5.7.5 Induction Systems:
1 Maximum intake size for any super/turbocharger is 58mm, for engines over 2500cc maximum
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Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on January 08, 2013, 07:54:34 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on January 08, 2013, 07:54:34 PM
Clive would this be a little too extreme for weight saving
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Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
Post by: clive on January 08, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: Arnie_O;846961Clive would this be a little too extreme for weight saving
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Excellent picture, one way of keeping cool I supose :Giggle
Phil, the puzzling thing is if Rod had a hand in the regs, last time I saw him he said "why not come and race with us" !
I wonder if news of your intentions scared em :3gears-rh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 08, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 08, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
Why are the governing bodies so against rotaries? Is it because of the ability of making more power aka porting without increasing anything such as the capacity of the engine?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on January 09, 2013, 01:27:15 AM
Post by: Will66 on January 09, 2013, 01:27:15 AM
I reckon its because properly tuned race rotaries are a relatively cheap reliable horsepower at a fraction of the cost of a comparatively powerful piston motor.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 09, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
Post by: clive on January 09, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
The Rotary "fear" goes back a long way.
In the seventy\'s Production saloons very nearly became Formula RX-3
The RX-3 was able to enter in the under 1300cc class and yet go for overall wins against the likes of 3,000 Ford Capri\'s !
The way I understand it, this power per cc led to the FIA bringing in an equivalency formula doubling the cc of the Rotary.
As far as I know the only other time this type of "fear" ever happen was when the Sierra Cosworth was king of Production saloons and the early Skyline came out, cleaned up in Australia so it promptly got banned over here before the first one ever even hit our shores.
In the seventy\'s Production saloons very nearly became Formula RX-3
The RX-3 was able to enter in the under 1300cc class and yet go for overall wins against the likes of 3,000 Ford Capri\'s !
The way I understand it, this power per cc led to the FIA bringing in an equivalency formula doubling the cc of the Rotary.
As far as I know the only other time this type of "fear" ever happen was when the Sierra Cosworth was king of Production saloons and the early Skyline came out, cleaned up in Australia so it promptly got banned over here before the first one ever even hit our shores.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
By limiting cars to certain engines mean everyone ends up driving the same cars. Look at the time attack series, most go for an Evo, scooby or skyline and it becomes extremely boring to watch the same cars to around in circles. (Uh oh isn\'t f1 like this :()
Lets hope they don\'t ban rotaries in your series Clive before you\'ve built it :(
I can see why people take an FD and drop a v8 in it to compete in racing series as you have the handling and an engine they can\'t complain about. You can even limit the power of a v8 by choking it but still keep the torqu the same.
Lets hope they don\'t ban rotaries in your series Clive before you\'ve built it :(
I can see why people take an FD and drop a v8 in it to compete in racing series as you have the handling and an engine they can\'t complain about. You can even limit the power of a v8 by choking it but still keep the torqu the same.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on January 09, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Post by: Will66 on January 09, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Time Attack\'s ought to change now their allowing the Pro cars to run on slicks. It should mean that RWD is in with a shout at big power levels.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Bucko on January 09, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
Post by: Bucko on January 09, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: Pukka;846934Happy new year Clive!! off to the Autosport Show to have a look @ what\'s running this year,I know 2 poss 3 of the big powered Skylines are fitting turbo restrictors,and changing back front mount rads for the Quaife series, there\'s Semsec,(Mainly Lydden) Intermarque,Thundersaloons,Eurosaloons, Castle Combe GT\'s,If I can get the budget together I would like to do the GT Cup, Having done a couple of Time Attack\'s I do really want to race,other then just timed runs.
What are your thought\'s now Mr Birley has stopped us entry our local championship!!
Ph
was wanting to do this series myself this year :mad:
should also mention a rather strange fact Mr Birley used to race a Rotary too !! now work that out ?:2Confused
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 10, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
Quote from: Bucko;847091Ph
was wanting to do this series myself this year :mad:
should also mention a rather strange fact Mr Birley used to race a Rotary too !! now work that out ?:2Confused
Sadly Rod has no Rotary affiliation :o, yes he used to race a heavily modded Gen I in Thundersaloons but it was Cosworth powered, :Hammer
As far as I know even going back to the early seventy\'s when he raced a Prod Saloon Capri, his racers have always been Ford powered.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 10, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
I asked Rod a few years back if he knew where the Gen one was and he had no idea, however I had a search around and up it popped!
Turns out it\'s up n running and was at Goodwood roming up the hill in 2013
Bucko, can we be nosey about your car with maybe some pictures ?
Turns out it\'s up n running and was at Goodwood roming up the hill in 2013
Bucko, can we be nosey about your car with maybe some pictures ?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Bucko on January 12, 2013, 11:31:10 PM
Post by: Bucko on January 12, 2013, 11:31:10 PM
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Pukka is completely to blame why i got involved with rotarys :Giggle so will put something more up later
Pukka is completely to blame why i got involved with rotarys :Giggle so will put something more up later
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 13, 2013, 04:44:49 PM
Post by: clive on January 13, 2013, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: Bucko;847358[ATTACH]55628[/ATTACH]
Pukka is completely to blame why i got involved with rotarys :Giggle so will put something more up later
Good to see you now have a thread up n running, keep the pictures and info coming, lots of people here will be interested :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on January 13, 2013, 08:54:37 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on January 13, 2013, 08:54:37 PM
Thinking I should start whoring my 8 build thread out on here now...
Didn\'t think the MRC was too interested in FE\'s
Didn\'t think the MRC was too interested in FE\'s
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: RobMatthews on January 13, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Post by: RobMatthews on January 13, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Clive what are you doing with the fuel tank? oe or aftermarket?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2013, 12:56:21 PM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2013, 12:56:21 PM
Any more updates Clive...will you be out on grid for start of season?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 13, 2013, 02:14:54 PM
Post by: clive on February 13, 2013, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: boosted;850524Any more updates Clive...will you be out on grid for start of season?
No more updates I\'m afraid as the project came to a halt in November as we do not have an engine for the car which is stopping the installation of many other components , "very" slim chance that it may be race ready for the third round of the season in your neck of the woods at Castle Coombe.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 13, 2013, 02:17:29 PM
Post by: clive on February 13, 2013, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: RobMatthews;847481Clive what are you doing with the fuel tank? oe or aftermarket?
Sorry Rob, didn\'t see this.
Stock RX-8 tanks are saddle mounted under the back seats and the ideal position for a race car :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Quote from: clive;850531No more updates I\'m afraid as the project came to a halt in November as we do not have an engine for the car which is stopping the installation of many other components , "very" slim chance that it may be race ready for the third round of the season in your neck of the woods at Castle Coombe.
fingers and toes crossed for you!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on February 25, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on February 25, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
Update Clives race RX8.
Engine is ported and should be finished being built by end of this week.
Sorry for long delay Clive.
Thanks for being so patient!(was supposed too be done by Christmas)
Carl
Engine is ported and should be finished being built by end of this week.
Sorry for long delay Clive.
Thanks for being so patient!(was supposed too be done by Christmas)
Carl
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2013, 06:32:26 PM
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2013, 06:32:26 PM
:wiggle:wiggle:wiggle:burnout
Great news Carl!
Great news Carl!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on February 26, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
Post by: Brett on February 26, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
So what series will it be entered into now?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Great news!!!
I so hope you make Castle Combe now....!
I cant wait to see this in action!......and we all know Clive can drive!
I so hope you make Castle Combe now....!
I cant wait to see this in action!......and we all know Clive can drive!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: Brett;851826So what series will it be entered into now?
Phil Collard keeps trying to tempt me with other series ;).
First I need to get it up n running and out there on track days to see what times it will produce, or potentially produce with development, then go with a decision from there.
When I spoke with drivers in the Nippon series last year some viewed Rotarys as a fragile joke and with the people supporting this project I need something reliable "and quick" to uphold the Rotary name
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 06:35:34 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: boosted;851861Great news!!!
I so hope you make Castle Combe now....!
I cant wait to see this in action!......and we all know Clive can drive!
Yes Japfest is the aim, with any project you need dates to aim at :Thumbsup!,
Drive!, yes, apparenty I drive Lisa round the bend every day :Giggle:Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on February 26, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
Post by: Brett on February 26, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
Apologies if it\'s already been covered... but what tyres are you allowed to run?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 06:57:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 06:57:44 PM
I think you will be quick with the low boost 400hp setting Clive. However the main thing, I would say, is that you have fun win or lose:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on February 26, 2013, 07:09:30 PM
Post by: Will66 on February 26, 2013, 07:09:30 PM
Nippon Challenge can only use MSA List 1B tyres.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Brett;851865Apologies if it\'s already been covered... but what tyres are you allowed to run?
Its sitting on Yokohama A48 tyres which would be allowed in Nippon and I would probably look to stay in a road car tyred series if possible.
Anyone who has driven on good slicks will know that once warm the grip level goes up tremendously over any road based tyre, then you really need better brakes and suspension to go with!.
Don\'t forget this is very much a budget racer built out of a lock up in the hope that others will see what\'s possible with our rotarys without lots of money.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 07:22:02 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;851868However the main thing, I would say, is that you have fun win or lose:D
Yes I know Grant, but trust me riding around at the back is no fun, been there, done that one when I have had poorly cars:eek:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
Now that the engine is on its way, what about turbo fanimold? And turbo :D
I don\'t think you would run around at the back in a standard rx8 Clive, never mind a turbo:eek
I was going to ask about slicks, Clive all ready answered. :)
So are you going to reveal prices? For a budget race car I would say close to 10,000? Just to get it running. No race fees etc.
I don\'t think you would run around at the back in a standard rx8 Clive, never mind a turbo:eek
I was going to ask about slicks, Clive all ready answered. :)
So are you going to reveal prices? For a budget race car I would say close to 10,000? Just to get it running. No race fees etc.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 08:12:19 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2013, 08:12:19 PM
As soon as the engine is in we can get the manifolds finished and when the pictures go up you will see something different from normal that are being made by an excellent Rotary fabricator who, along with Carl, Racing Beat and Racing Brake is on-board with the project.
It will be interesting to see when its up n running how the car totals up.
One head start was a bartering deal for a good rolling shell, no money changed hands, instead a set of roll bars and an exhaust, I did say budget :chat
It will be interesting to see when its up n running how the car totals up.
One head start was a bartering deal for a good rolling shell, no money changed hands, instead a set of roll bars and an exhaust, I did say budget :chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
Is the manifold being built by T?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 09:07:45 AM
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;851890Is the manifold being built by T?
It will be better for me to say when the pictures eventualy go up.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on February 27, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Post by: shaunwil on February 27, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Looks like some good progress :D
Can\'t wait to see it running round the track, and me getting out of the way !
Shaun
Can\'t wait to see it running round the track, and me getting out of the way !
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;851937Can\'t wait to see it running round the track, and me getting out of the way !
Shaun
Nah, you will have a different (faster) car around the track this your with that low diff ratio your putting in :Thumbsup!.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on February 27, 2013, 06:20:29 PM
Post by: shaunwil on February 27, 2013, 06:20:29 PM
Hopefully :D
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 27, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 27, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
What ratio you got Shaun? Also what about you Clive?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 08:19:56 PM
Post by: clive on February 27, 2013, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;852000What ratio you got Shaun? Also what about you Clive?
I will have a choice of 4.3-4.4 and 4.7
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 27, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 27, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
Awesome, I can go to a 5.1 from a 3.9 on my car:) so I guess I win at the diff ratio game:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2013, 11:44:55 AM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2013, 11:44:55 AM
I think you gotta stay with Nippon GT series prove them doubters wrong....plus it seems a very logical way to class the cars on power as opposed to engine size, with factors like co-efficient being added to forced induction etc.....i.e 400bhp rx8 against 400 bhp celica ....instead of 2600cc x1.7 co.efficient = 4,420 cc
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
Keeping cars to similar HP is the easiest way to make competitive racing, however there is a saying. HP sells cars, torqu wins races.
I have noticed a lot of race series in the states limit HP but not torque, this is why a lot of rx7 v8 conversions are loved so much, you can cap HP at 400 and make more torque.
A daft example of this is my brothers trans am, due to smog control on the standard car it only produced 180Hp, but 300lb/ft torque!!
I have noticed a lot of race series in the states limit HP but not torque, this is why a lot of rx7 v8 conversions are loved so much, you can cap HP at 400 and make more torque.
A daft example of this is my brothers trans am, due to smog control on the standard car it only produced 180Hp, but 300lb/ft torque!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 28, 2013, 01:43:29 PM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2013, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: boosted;852043I think you gotta stay with Nippon GT series prove them doubters wrong
Yep, your right which was all the reasons I looked at the GT class that have in the first place :driving
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 11:58:53 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 11:58:53 AM
The saying that torque wins races is a complete myth IMO, big torque is only needed if the car is heavy or towing something, a big fat HP power curve is what needed to win races. Torque is relevant in long endurance races so you can pull big gears at low rpm so your fuel consumption is low so dont need as many fuel stops. But for out and out speed and quick laptimes response\\BHP is king imo
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on March 01, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
Post by: Will66 on March 01, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
I agree with BlitzBoy on Torque. It\'s not a race winning quality. In purely mathematical terms, torque is a measure of turning force, you need force to move a weight, which is work. Power is the rate at which work is done, the more power you have the faster you can move a given weight.
If torque was all you needed to win races everyone would be stripping JCBs of their motors and sticking them in their drag racers.
If torque was all you needed to win races everyone would be stripping JCBs of their motors and sticking them in their drag racers.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2013, 02:04:17 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2013, 02:04:17 PM
bhp per tonne i feel is good indicator.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;852165The saying that torque wins races is a complete myth IMO, big torque is only needed if the car is heavy or towing something, a big fat HP power curve is what needed to win races. Torque is relevant in long endurance races so you can pull big gears at low rpm so your fuel consumption is low so dont need as many fuel stops. But for out and out speed and quick laptimes response\\BHP is king imo
I wasn\'t saying torque was king just torque is something great to have it you are limited to HP.
If 2 cars have the same HP and rpms but one has 100-150 more torques over the rev range which car is going to pull out of the corners faster? Especially the low to medium speed corners?
In drag racing, as we all know, HP is king, however getting out of the hole is where the torque is used, after the 60ft/100ft mark HP takes over and mph goes up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
the statement was about torque wins races, it does\'nt , its a combination of everything that wins races
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
.....CASH wins races....lol!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 01, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 01, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: boosted;852188.....CASH wins races....lol!
Best argument ever!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on March 01, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
Post by: Will66 on March 01, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
You can overcome a lack of torque with gearing. But yes, it is cash that wins.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: boosted;852188.....CLIVE wins races....lol!
Fixed that for you :);):D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 01, 2013, 10:20:10 PM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2013, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;852200Fixed that for you :);):D
Cash helps though :rollin:rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 11:44:53 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 01, 2013, 11:44:53 PM
well Cash does not always wins races look at Mercedes F1 how much money they have spunked for only 1 win so far lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 02, 2013, 03:58:20 AM
Post by: re japi on March 02, 2013, 03:58:20 AM
If you have balls, you win races ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 08:30:00 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 08:30:00 AM
Quote from: re japi;852225If you have balls, you win races ;)
Even the women? Eww!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 08:32:28 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 08:32:28 AM
Quote from: clive;852213Cash helps though :rollin:rollin
I know, have you seen how the guys going for the land speed records are creating funds? You sponsor them, not much, and they put your name on the car, potential 1,000mph car, great idea I think. Try it Clive:) might work?!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on March 02, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Post by: shaunwil on March 02, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;852000What ratio you got Shaun? Also what about you Clive?
I\'m having Clives old one, I think he said its a 4.4 :D
Diff needs a rebuild so may as well get it done at the same time. Big thanks to clive for the CWP too :D
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;852220well Cash does not always wins races
Driver helps to win too.
I obviously wont name the driver, but I once raced against a well funded driver with good machinery who was always quick in practice and often led races --------------for around three laps!.
In his second season he actualy admitted he knew what the problem was, after three laps he used to lose consentration and basicaly just drove off the track!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 11:06:05 AM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 11:06:05 AM
Quote from: re japi;852225If you have balls, you win races ;)
Not necessarily, many on lookers said to me over the years "you must be mad or a loony to race" , my answer would always be "no, I feel its the reverse"
To me to go quick you need to be thinking and reacting all the time about what you are feeling going on with the car, callculating what is going on around you and how you are positioning the car on the track either for the best speed you can get from the surface of the track or working out how you are going to get around the car ahead.
I have always had the saying of "you can only go as fast as the car will let you go" so to me, being brave, having balls, being mad or whatever is not in the equation, its all about understanding the abilities of the car you have under you and what you can and can\'t do with it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
Leading all the time would get boring, especially if your well in front.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;852229You sponsor them, not much, and they put your name on the car, potential 1,000mph car, great idea I think. Try it Clive:) might work?!
Hmmmmmm ?, I have seen this done in other ways.
I remember a car in the Indy 500 that apparently only got there by fans having the name on the car, and he had hundreds the size of a postage stamp
I am pleased to say that I already have some sponsorship already that will be shown on the car ,
Carl / Hayward Rotary is supplying the core engine, Racing Beat USA have helped, so have Racing Brake with parts, also Mazdatrix have offered discounted parts as the car gets developed and Tein have offered parts should I wish to alter the Mono Flex kit (with revised springs) the car is currently on.
Plus when the project gets a bit further I will tell you about another company and a friend of that company who is going to have a big input into the car to try and get it out there with a competitive package.
Not meaning to seem secretive but it will do this company better justice to wait and physically show you all their involvement
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
Clive,
Do you think it maybe inappropriate to get a Radical as a first competitive car?...Old one 1300 circa 210 bhp....The instructors yesterday where suggesting saloons in a low powered car to gain experience.
Ive been track daying for 10 + years and all at combe all be it in multiple cars but more recently my colt Gti for 3 years.
However saloons at combe is more BTCC and i dont want to race like that! Gts are quicker but the standard of driving imo is more gentleman than Jason Plato!
Dont want to make a fool of myself by causing a big incident due to lack of experience but at the same time dont want to be running round at the back as the novice getting in the way when the faster turbod saloons come to lap me 2/3 race distance.
Ive never driven a radical and would not just stick it on the grid. I would do the test days and learn the car first.
I appreciate there is a massive void between track days and race .....but i dont know how big that void is yet !!! any comments greatly appreciated!
Do you think it maybe inappropriate to get a Radical as a first competitive car?...Old one 1300 circa 210 bhp....The instructors yesterday where suggesting saloons in a low powered car to gain experience.
Ive been track daying for 10 + years and all at combe all be it in multiple cars but more recently my colt Gti for 3 years.
However saloons at combe is more BTCC and i dont want to race like that! Gts are quicker but the standard of driving imo is more gentleman than Jason Plato!
Dont want to make a fool of myself by causing a big incident due to lack of experience but at the same time dont want to be running round at the back as the novice getting in the way when the faster turbod saloons come to lap me 2/3 race distance.
Ive never driven a radical and would not just stick it on the grid. I would do the test days and learn the car first.
I appreciate there is a massive void between track days and race .....but i dont know how big that void is yet !!! any comments greatly appreciated!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: boosted;852251Clive,
Do you think it maybe inappropriate to get a Radical as a first competitive car?...Old one 1300 circa 210 bhp....The instructors yesterday where suggesting saloons in a low powered car to gain experience.
As you have lots of experience at that circuit and I suspect thats where you would race, I would say if you want the Radical, go for it and done with.
Personally I would say that you would be in danger of wasting time, effort and money if its the Radical you really want to race.
Other the experiencing Racing properly with other cars around you in close proximaty, I would suggest that because the Radical is such a different animal due to its weight and therefore it\'s handling characteristics, i.e. it will corner so much faster and brake so much later it will teach you very little by going down the saloon route if thats not really what you want to do .
As for driving standards, in any race series, you very quickly learn who you can get near and who needs treating with caution, so I don\'t feel that part is too relevant.
Hope this helps
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Brill Thanks Clive!
Radical it is pound for pound its looks like the most cost effective way to go!
Love to race a rotary in the future!
I really hope you catch up with your build !
Radical it is pound for pound its looks like the most cost effective way to go!
Love to race a rotary in the future!
I really hope you catch up with your build !
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 03, 2013, 04:44:11 AM
Post by: re japi on March 03, 2013, 04:44:11 AM
To become a great race driver doesent mean that you have to have big balls and lots of cash. Driving is just one little part of it.
To understand the car and to do a perfect setup is more important and difficult. Also, to see and understand road/track and road/track conditions is important.
To understand the car and to do a perfect setup is more important and difficult. Also, to see and understand road/track and road/track conditions is important.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 03, 2013, 05:33:09 AM
Post by: re japi on March 03, 2013, 05:33:09 AM
Also, strategy and stay focus is important.
For example, one guy here was very very very fast in rally sprint races. 2 laps in short stage. He also raced in rallyes, but he never did a good job there. Reason: he always went flatout, maximum speed. In rallyes, he just wasnt focused enough in last stages to keep the pace up.
My father once said that if you dont crash, you arent going fast enough. Finding limits of you and your car. Example: Marcus Grönholm destroyed about 3000 Toyota Celicas in national races, before coming world champion. And Colin McRae, he also liked to visit in bushes. ;) Both went flatout, crashing alot...
Then Tommi Mäkinen. He was master to see road conditions ahead of him. And to find best setup to his car. He didnt crash alot...
One rally guru once said that if you have 3 curves in front of you, you go liked mad the first and then almost crash in second and third, it isnt the fastest way to go. To keep up the speed and pace is more important. Calculate and do a strategy, carrys you further in a long run...
Well, just few of my thoughts. Ignore it, im very tired, im going to bed... ;)
For example, one guy here was very very very fast in rally sprint races. 2 laps in short stage. He also raced in rallyes, but he never did a good job there. Reason: he always went flatout, maximum speed. In rallyes, he just wasnt focused enough in last stages to keep the pace up.
My father once said that if you dont crash, you arent going fast enough. Finding limits of you and your car. Example: Marcus Grönholm destroyed about 3000 Toyota Celicas in national races, before coming world champion. And Colin McRae, he also liked to visit in bushes. ;) Both went flatout, crashing alot...
Then Tommi Mäkinen. He was master to see road conditions ahead of him. And to find best setup to his car. He didnt crash alot...
One rally guru once said that if you have 3 curves in front of you, you go liked mad the first and then almost crash in second and third, it isnt the fastest way to go. To keep up the speed and pace is more important. Calculate and do a strategy, carrys you further in a long run...
Well, just few of my thoughts. Ignore it, im very tired, im going to bed... ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 03, 2013, 11:20:00 AM
Post by: clive on March 03, 2013, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: re japi;852309Well, just few of my thoughts. Ignore it, im very tired, im going to bed... ;)
No, they are good posts, and excellent observations about the rally guys.
Whilst in Rallying having the fastest speed and shortest elapsed time is king this does not always need to be applied on track, but what does always apply, is to finish first, first you must finish .
I have won races and had spectators come up after and say "wow" you only just won but what they did not know is that at times once in the lead you can sometimes dictate the race.
If I found myself in this situation, at times I have just cut a 1,000 revs to save engine mileage and lessen risk to the car and drove off the leader boards and mirror to make sure I finished, but the spectaors from the out side at times would only see the second place car closing in the last laps and think "I only just won"
Dropped a clanger once though, racing an NHRPA Hot Rod at Wimbledon in the Winternationals, comfortably leading in the dieing laps and I let Jeff Simpson through thinking he was a lap down then realised I had given up the lead and lost the race !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on March 03, 2013, 10:16:17 PM
Post by: shaunwil on March 03, 2013, 10:16:17 PM
Bet you got back in the lead :Giggle
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 03:57:09 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 03:57:09 PM
We have some progress :chat
Hayward Rotarys fully bridge ported, full race engine is now bolted into the engine bay today , so now the real work can begin :)
Also dummied up the new brake kit from Racing Brake with 2 piece open slot discs
Not the normal RX-8 kit as this kit has bigger 332x26mm (13.1" x 1.1") brake discs (i\'ve owned cars with wheels that size!)
All stop now for sorting out Brooklands, but next week I will look at fitting the bigger version Koyo RX-7 FD radiator that\'s been modified by Brise fabrications to change the neck angles and mount the RX-8 fan assembly.
With this fitted then we can start looking at fitting the Turbo and the huge Apexi intercooler :Thumbsup!
Hayward Rotarys fully bridge ported, full race engine is now bolted into the engine bay today , so now the real work can begin :)
Also dummied up the new brake kit from Racing Brake with 2 piece open slot discs
Not the normal RX-8 kit as this kit has bigger 332x26mm (13.1" x 1.1") brake discs (i\'ve owned cars with wheels that size!)
All stop now for sorting out Brooklands, but next week I will look at fitting the bigger version Koyo RX-7 FD radiator that\'s been modified by Brise fabrications to change the neck angles and mount the RX-8 fan assembly.
With this fitted then we can start looking at fitting the Turbo and the huge Apexi intercooler :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Are you using the rx8 front cover?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: fil_auto on March 13, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
Post by: fil_auto on March 13, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
Looking good :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on March 13, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
Post by: rote8 on March 13, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
With the attention to detail that Clive has applied to this build :god I can see it being more than just competitive \'out of the box\'. I sincerely hope so anyway. :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on March 13, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Post by: shaunwil on March 13, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Is it me or does that flywheel look massive compared to the stock one ??
Can\'t wait to see this running :D
Shaun
Can\'t wait to see this running :D
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Great news - also can\'t wait to see (and hear!) this running :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 13, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 13, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;853214Is it me or does that flywheel look massive compared to the stock one ??
Can\'t wait to see this running :D
Shaun
whole clutch and flywheel assembly is 4.5kg
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 13, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
Post by: re japi on March 13, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;853216whole clutch and flywheel assembly is 4.5kg
What is original/stock weight?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on March 13, 2013, 06:56:23 PM
Post by: Will66 on March 13, 2013, 06:56:23 PM
Closer to 11kg!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;853202Are you using the rx8 front cover?
It\'s, no but I can get around that using one sensor.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: fil_auto;853205Looking good :)
Thanks Phil and to Ray on the next post, still aways to go though but aiming for Japfest, got to have a target date or things don\'t ever happen.
Trouble is I not only need to get it finished, it needs running in and mapping before Japfest :Hammer .
p.s. Shaun, the flywheel is stock diamiter,
Clutch assembly came from Mazdatrix and they tell me it will handle twice what I intend to throw at it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 07:35:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 07:35:58 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;853214Is it me or does that flywheel look massive compared to the stock one ??
Can\'t wait to see this running :D
Shaun
I agree, it does look very large in diameter.
I think it will be Interesting to see how the car rolls at low speed, I imagine it to be very jerky, but we all know this car isn\'t going to be going at low speeds:evillaugh :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: clive;853229Thanks Phil and to Ray on the next post, still aways to go though but aiming for Japfest, got to have a target date or things don\'t ever happen.
Trouble is I not only need to get it finished, it needs running in and mapping before Japfest :Hammer .
p.s. Shaun, the flywheel is stock diamiter,
Clutch assembly came from Mazdatrix and they tell me it will handle twice what I intend to throw at it.
Gimme the keys and fuel money and I will run it in for you, up to Huddersfield and back should do the trick:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on March 13, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
Post by: C J R on March 13, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
Think Clutch assembly just looks awesome.
Looking forward to seeing this at Japfest Clive. I\'ll be the first to ask the question no one has yet....will it have a passenger seat in and can I ride shotgun ??? :yes Pleeeeeez
Chris
Looking forward to seeing this at Japfest Clive. I\'ll be the first to ask the question no one has yet....will it have a passenger seat in and can I ride shotgun ??? :yes Pleeeeeez
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;853231Gimme the keys and fuel money and I will run it in for you, up to Huddersfield and back should do the trick:)
Your on :3gears-rh, did I mention though this is a trailered race car with no tax, insurance or mot :rollin:rollin:rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: C J R;853235Think Clutch assembly just looks awesome.
Looking forward to seeing this at Japfest Clive. I\'ll be the first to ask the question no one has yet....will it have a passenger seat in and can I ride shotgun ??? :yes Pleeeeeez
Chris
Here you go Chris this pic gives a better size prospective,
Had no intention of fitting a seat, but it looks as though its going to have a cheap race seat and a set of belts put in just to get it mapped so it responds how I want it to under race conditions---------then it will get removed.
I have said from the word go, this must be a drivable race car in traffic conditions as I have seen too many cars with power just at the top that bog like mad and then get going at the end of the straight, they can look impressive but it doesn\'t necessarily produce good lap times.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 09:52:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 09:52:53 PM
Quote from: clive;853237Your on :3gears-rh, did I mention though this is a trailered race car with no tax, insurance or mot :rollin:rollin:rollin
As long as it runs its fine, and the lights work I will do it in the night. Stealth mode ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 10:04:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2013, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: clive;853237Your on :3gears-rh, did I mention though this is a trailered race car with no tax, insurance or mot :rollin:rollin:rollin
As long as it runs its fine, and the lights work I will do it in the night. Stealth mode ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on March 14, 2013, 01:58:58 AM
Post by: seanp on March 14, 2013, 01:58:58 AM
Looking great Clive - can\'t wait to hear / see it running; and winning races :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2013, 05:17:38 AM
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2013, 05:17:38 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;853246As long as it runs its fine, and the lights work I will do it in the night. Stealth mode ;)
with that paint job:eek:....i think the rozzers might spot you:chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 14, 2013, 05:40:42 AM
Post by: re japi on March 14, 2013, 05:40:42 AM
Lmao... lights off... paint job... Police´s might hear loud brabrabbrab though... ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 14, 2013, 06:55:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 14, 2013, 06:55:07 AM
Iv got some camouflage netting I can throw over it, that way no one will see it:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 20, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 20, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
You finished this yet Clive :giggle looking forward too seeing the turbo manifold. I may be making my own, I\'m just not happy with what iv got right now on the rx4, so might be taking some design ideas from yours
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2013, 08:19:24 PM
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2013, 08:19:24 PM
Here\'s a question for you .....why have clives race cars been predominantly yellow?
( i do know the answer).
....??????????????????????
( i do know the answer).
....??????????????????????
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 20, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 20, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
Because Mazda like yellow, when they revealed the rx8 it was yellow, the fd rx7 was yellow.....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;853837Because Mazda like yellow, when they revealed the rx8 it was yellow, the fd rx7 was yellow.....
Nope....
clue......something to do with cement:eek:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 20, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: boosted;853840Nope....
clue......something to do with cement:eek:
Correct :chat the lure was that all that nice yellow enamel paint was supplied to me for free via head office at the time :cool, plus I like the color :Thumbs-up.
Seriously, I used to work for Blue Circle Cement and the lorries were all Yellow, apparently chosen because yellow is the most visable from a distance
The company supported my exploits by allowing me to build my cars and run them from their workshops using all the equipment within them and whilst they gave me no financial assistance this was of huge support and they used to follow my progress through their works magazine that went all over the world.
Grant\'s right in that I had a yellow FD as well :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 21, 2013, 08:41:58 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on March 21, 2013, 08:41:58 AM
Thats just not true Clive, we all know its cos your usual greeting when we first talk to you is "Yellow"!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 21, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Post by: clive on March 21, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;853865Thats just not true Clive, we all know its cos your usual greeting when we first talk to you is "Yellow"!!
Works if you say it in a southern American drool, which I obviously do ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Test Drives Unlimited on March 22, 2013, 12:19:01 AM
Post by: Test Drives Unlimited on March 22, 2013, 12:19:01 AM
I like Yellow too :driving ,but not had a Yellow Car yet :evillaugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on March 25, 2013, 02:44:33 PM
Post by: Kodiak on March 25, 2013, 02:44:33 PM
The real reason!
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:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2013, 05:57:22 PM
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2013, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: GreySilver Beast;853958I like Yellow too :driving ,but not had a Yellow Car yet :evillaugh
my first car was Yellow a 1982 Mini City reg muw 653x what good times....first car crash and was not even in it ....failed mot on handbrake....rolled down road and smashed straight into a Audi quattro and wrote it off....
Never had a yellow car since..:chat
Any more update Clives?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 31, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
Post by: clive on March 31, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
It\'s getting there (slowly) but we now have the radiator fitted and I now know where all the pipe work fits, just got to get the header tank made.
The intercooler bolted in which means we can think about finishing the exhaust manifold and mounting the turbo plus my Racing Beat oil lines are installed.
This week I should see my side mount alternator bracket arrive in from Mazdatrix so I can get my tiny alternator fitted up.
Also the car should look very differnt shortly as the sticker set for the car should be here soon now we have decided what\'s going where
Also the tow bar is now on the Tribute so I can hopefully drag the trailer home tomorrow I\'m off to look at buying.
Sorry about the poor pictures off the phone, I\'ll try and remember the camera next time
The intercooler bolted in which means we can think about finishing the exhaust manifold and mounting the turbo plus my Racing Beat oil lines are installed.
This week I should see my side mount alternator bracket arrive in from Mazdatrix so I can get my tiny alternator fitted up.
Also the car should look very differnt shortly as the sticker set for the car should be here soon now we have decided what\'s going where
Also the tow bar is now on the Tribute so I can hopefully drag the trailer home tomorrow I\'m off to look at buying.
Sorry about the poor pictures off the phone, I\'ll try and remember the camera next time
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 15, 2013, 06:27:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 15, 2013, 06:27:37 PM
Well I seemed to miss that update Clive, very nice. Any more goings on??
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on April 15, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
Post by: Brett on April 15, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
Where are the afterburners? :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: gmonsen on April 27, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
Post by: gmonsen on April 27, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
Clive... Just read the thread from beginning. Like the whole thing. Keep it affordable, understressed, 400 hp, and light weight. Btw, several guys I know tried the Rx8 tranny in their FD\'s and did not have a good experience.
G
G
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 27, 2013, 10:56:28 AM
Post by: clive on April 27, 2013, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: gmonsen;856529Clive... Just read the thread from beginning. Like the whole thing. Keep it affordable, understressed, 400 hp, and light weight. Btw, several guys I know tried the Rx8 tranny in their FD\'s and did not have a good experience.
G
Thanks for the input G,
I am treating the gear box as "expendable" however over here a few have used these for Drag racing and found they have lived better than an FD box, so we shall see.
By the end of next week I will have some updates on progress with pictures.
Car is sitting in Team Hard\'s workshops ATM waiting for the chassis to be set up and will be helping to develop the suspension once it\'s out racing
Team Hard run the BTCC cars pictured below along with many other race cars.
Once it comes out it\'s off to get the manifolds and fuel system finished, then we will be really getting there :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 01, 2013, 09:24:25 PM
Post by: clive on May 01, 2013, 09:24:25 PM
Got the car back from Team HARD, between us we have gone for a conservative suspension set up initially buy they already have some ideas for a more aggressive set up in mind once its out there racing :D.
They had never set up an RX-8 before as its a different animal from the BTCC or GT cars they normally see but they were very impressed with the stock RX-8 layout with it\'s multi link rear and surprised how adjustable it all is :cool
As you will see in the pictures sticker maker extraordinaire, John French and Andrew (Jinx) designing we now have a fully stickered up car in its final guise (thanks guys).
Car will be at Japfest on the MRC stand but sadly not on track yet as the manifolds, fuel system and wiring are yet to be completed,
Here you go latest pictures, now finaly out of the dark lock-up where the car was assembled
They had never set up an RX-8 before as its a different animal from the BTCC or GT cars they normally see but they were very impressed with the stock RX-8 layout with it\'s multi link rear and surprised how adjustable it all is :cool
As you will see in the pictures sticker maker extraordinaire, John French and Andrew (Jinx) designing we now have a fully stickered up car in its final guise (thanks guys).
Car will be at Japfest on the MRC stand but sadly not on track yet as the manifolds, fuel system and wiring are yet to be completed,
Here you go latest pictures, now finaly out of the dark lock-up where the car was assembled
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2013, 10:55:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2013, 10:55:24 PM
Looking good Clive, coming along now :D are you running an EWP?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2013, 11:36:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2013, 11:36:48 PM
So what does settin up the suspension involve?? As I can see from your pictures it is very low, will this settle even lower once you have done a few laps are is it solid where it sits?
What sort of cost is involved in getting your suspension setup?
What sort of cost is involved in getting your suspension setup?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: gmonsen on May 02, 2013, 12:05:23 AM
Post by: gmonsen on May 02, 2013, 12:05:23 AM
Beautiful racecar presentation for Japfest. Those stickers look great.
G
G
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2013, 04:31:18 AM
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2013, 04:31:18 AM
I like those bonnet vents and tailpipe. Nice :)
Yes, what i have heard and see, Rx-8 stock layout is quite amazing. Same thing is in Fb, at that time which is was built, it was amazing.
Yes, what i have heard and see, Rx-8 stock layout is quite amazing. Same thing is in Fb, at that time which is was built, it was amazing.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 02, 2013, 07:38:32 AM
Post by: C J R on May 02, 2013, 07:38:32 AM
Well done Clive,
The quality and attention to detail is just what we would expect from you.
Pity you won\'t be running at Castle Combe, but I hope I\'m there to have a good look round the RX8.
Chris
The quality and attention to detail is just what we would expect from you.
Pity you won\'t be running at Castle Combe, but I hope I\'m there to have a good look round the RX8.
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;856886Looking good Clive, coming along now :D are you running an EWP?
Yes EWP that is hiding under the intercooler.
Car is sitting on race spings so I wouldn\'t expect to see it settle.
As for suspension for the initial basic set up I would expect it to be around around for £100 at any 4 wheel laser adjustment
Don\'t forget with mine it\'s easy to adjust as all the suspension bushes, bolts and some of the arms are all new.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
Quote from: re japi;856893I like those bonnet vents and tailpipe. Nice :)
Yes, what i have heard and see, Rx-8 stock layout is quite amazing. Same thing is in Fb, at that time which is was built, it was amazing.
The vents are definatly for a reason due to the V-Mount so we get the air up and out of the intercooler.
I have used Racing Beat\'s lightweight RX-8 Race system but as I need to run a cat, I have put a 4" 100 cell race cat on the end to meet regulations but also in an effort to meet noise limits especially as it\'s a bridge ported motor which makes it make more noise
(still got to be heat wrapped yet)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
Thanks gmonsen and CJR,
Just got to get it not only out there, but hope it\'s somewhere near competitive "out of the box" and a good base that we can then try to get going quicker, fingers crossed as this car is into the unknown with some things we have Incorporated.
One of the hopes is that people will see the RX-8 as a good basis for a race car and more will consider the Rotary route because of this project.
Just got to get it not only out there, but hope it\'s somewhere near competitive "out of the box" and a good base that we can then try to get going quicker, fingers crossed as this car is into the unknown with some things we have Incorporated.
One of the hopes is that people will see the RX-8 as a good basis for a race car and more will consider the Rotary route because of this project.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on May 02, 2013, 01:04:06 PM
Post by: Will66 on May 02, 2013, 01:04:06 PM
I like where you\'ve put the catalytic converter. It\'s an issue that has been perplexing me for mine!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2013, 02:42:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2013, 02:42:39 PM
Quote from: Will66;856919I like where you\'ve put the catalytic converter. It\'s an issue that has been perplexing me for mine!
So have you started building your race car?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on May 02, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
Post by: Will66 on May 02, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
I\'ve pulled out most of the interior but I am waiting for a few new bits to come available in the US before it\'s off to the engine builder then the roll cage/fire safety stuff.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
Looking very smart cant wait to see it at Japfest.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Quote from: clive;856537Thanks for the input G,
I am treating the gear box as "expendable" however over here a few have used these for Drag racing and found they have lived better than an FD box, so we shall see.
By the end of next week I will have some updates on progress with pictures.
Car is sitting in Team Hard\'s workshops ATM waiting for the chassis to be set up and will be helping to develop the suspension once it\'s out racing
Team Hard run the BTCC cars pictured below along with many other race cars.
Once it comes out it\'s off to get the manifolds and fuel system finished, then we will be really getting there :Thumbsup!
Onslow-cole of team hard currently battling for 3rd in BTCC at thruxton against J. Plato!! Great racing this weekend
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 01:00:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 01:00:33 PM
Actually finished 3rd!! Hopefully these guys will sort you out through your re entry to competitive racing Clive:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 05, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Post by: clive on May 05, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;857152Actually finished 3rd!! Hopefully these guys will sort you out through your re entry to competitive racing Clive:)
A 3rd a 2nd and a fourth wasn\'t bad for a team that only set up shop to go touring car in January against the manufactures works teams,
Very commited small privater team though and they even have some of the team living there for the season as it is made up of people who are good in their own fields from far and wide.
Anyone who saw the interview with the guy with the wooly hat saw the owner Tony Gilham who masterminds the three cars which are the Audi and the two Vecta\'s.
When I picked the RX-8 up they showed me the cars in detail and that even though they are different make body shells the subfames are regulation the engines are the same Swindon engines and the cars dimensionally are identical, funny how one car goes quicker than the other two though whichj goes to show the driver still plays a big part then.
I will confess that I did rib them after I told them that I don\'t like lots of negative, as I think it makes the car climb up on the camber,
They said, ahh but we run as much as 7 degrees on the back, my responce was that these touring car thingys are wrong wheel drive unlike the RX-8 :cool
Anyway good on them they shook the touring car world up today :Party
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
They sure did, had a full day of watching racing, 3 BTCC rounds and Jerez Moto GP, plus porche carrera cup and ginettas.
Where\'s the rx8 at now? Any fab work going on?
Where\'s the rx8 at now? Any fab work going on?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 21, 2013, 10:02:25 PM
Post by: clive on May 21, 2013, 10:02:25 PM
Quick update,
The car was shown at Japfest a week ago, after Kerim of Powergains Motorsport who\'s company is on board as one of the cars sponsor\'s started fabricating the exhaust manifold
As you will see due to Powergains who are going to venture into Circuit Racing with us along side their successful Drag Racing campaign with James Willday , we now have a Turbo mounted :cool
http://powergains-motorsport.com/
The MD of Zircotec came to see me and has taken the rear exhaust box away to ceramic the tail pipe where it goes through the body and they will also be coating the turbo and down pipe assembly when finished.
As you will see in the engine pictures Brise Fabrications has now finished the upper inlet
http://www.brise.co.uk/special_fabrications.html
(car pic courtesy of Ann AMH)
The car was shown at Japfest a week ago, after Kerim of Powergains Motorsport who\'s company is on board as one of the cars sponsor\'s started fabricating the exhaust manifold
As you will see due to Powergains who are going to venture into Circuit Racing with us along side their successful Drag Racing campaign with James Willday , we now have a Turbo mounted :cool
http://powergains-motorsport.com/
The MD of Zircotec came to see me and has taken the rear exhaust box away to ceramic the tail pipe where it goes through the body and they will also be coating the turbo and down pipe assembly when finished.
As you will see in the engine pictures Brise Fabrications has now finished the upper inlet
http://www.brise.co.uk/special_fabrications.html
(car pic courtesy of Ann AMH)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on May 21, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
Post by: Brett on May 21, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
Looks good - can\'t beat a cheeky bit of booost
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 22, 2013, 08:10:48 AM
Post by: C J R on May 22, 2013, 08:10:48 AM
Hmmmmmm, that inlet looks interesting. I\'ll wait for this to be finished before pinching any ideas !!
Chris
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on May 22, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Post by: Will66 on May 22, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Powergains making manifolds eh? This interests me!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 22, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
Post by: clive on May 22, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Will66;858267Powergains making manifolds eh? This interests me!
It should, they produce excellent fabrication work and know from experience how to make manifolds flow correctly
Pictures will follow once complete :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 30, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
Post by: boosted on May 30, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
The Nippon Challenge was at Coombe monday 27th and i had a good look round the cars in the pits...and i think you\'ve nearly built a very competitive car. I definitely think yours will be presented in the highest standard.
The racing was excellent and really enjoyable to watch and big grid...front runner was a New age Impreza that pulled a good lead towards the end....( GT unlimited class i think).
Lots of different jap machinery including a GT0 3000 that was going well!.
Looks like a good choice of championship.
The racing was excellent and really enjoyable to watch and big grid...front runner was a New age Impreza that pulled a good lead towards the end....( GT unlimited class i think).
Lots of different jap machinery including a GT0 3000 that was going well!.
Looks like a good choice of championship.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 30, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
I wondered how they got on last weekend, many thanks for the info.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2013, 10:10:42 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2013, 10:10:42 AM
http://www.tsl-timing.com/ccrc/2013/132268nip.pdf
Lap times, qualification times and results.
Lap times, qualification times and results.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
Thx boosted - an interesting set of results! I\'ve also tidied up your posts to make things easier :Typing
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2013, 09:57:09 PM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2013, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Casey;858720Thx boosted - an interesting set of results! I\'ve also tidied up your posts to make things easier :Typing
nice 1 bit of a mess:Hammer
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2013, 01:21:06 AM
this year ive been getting 1.25.8 round combe in my old colt.. would put me 3/4th in gt150 in qualify......still saving for a radical.....( old 1 )...if i dont make it to getting a radical by next year then this series GT150 is where i heading.....nippon was excellent to watch and having a jap race series full of cars i\'ve owned as a ricer since since my sunny GTI when all my mates had fords or vw\'s....and means i\'ll have to do all the other circuits!...i got a bar to get a tow of clives rx8....i\'m 7/10 there!
looking at the build of Clives its gonna right up there.... hoping... giving that impreza something to chase.
looking at the build of Clives its gonna right up there.... hoping... giving that impreza something to chase.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
If its all right with clive? Lets help get this car on the grid. I propose £20 payment to clive paypal or otherwise....you get a small area with your name or spouse daugther son name on clives car...ill handle graphics free say 150mm long by 30mm high...what do you think guys give a bit back to the club....lets do it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 02, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Quote from: boosted;858768If its all right with clive?
Wow, Real real nice of you to suggest this, a while back Tony (Exiled Viking) did as well on the RX8OC.
Lisa had never heard of this sort of thing but I have heard of this many times over the years either to let people just be "involved".
Like the guy who ran in the Indianapolis 500 with a car covered in fans signatures that let him make the race, or catastrophes like a National Hot Rod that burnt to the ground and fans donated money to get him out again, indeed he even won the World Championship the following years thanks to the fans.
Or the other way I have heard this happen is when a guy with a street drag car called Henry HiRise had his 671 blower stolen off its engine over night at an event!!
Bizarrely, you may have seen in our MRP section I have just lost thousands of pounds worth of anything made of iron or alloy, ie tools garage equipment etc with also 18 alloy wheels going and 6 were destined for the race car.
As I said on the other thread the fat rat gipsy weddings are now effectively banned from our household !
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 02, 2013, 11:44:42 AM
Post by: Casey on June 02, 2013, 11:44:42 AM
Sounds a great idea to me - count me in!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 02, 2013, 11:57:45 AM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2013, 11:57:45 AM
Many thanks for the times, Malcolm also found them very interesting, plus it shows you get your Colt around Coombe OK as I run 25\'s with the road RX-8, (hopefully we can clip that by 10seconds with the race car)
As for progress its sadly come to a virtual halt again,
I am desperately trying to keep things going forward with lots of visits to Brise fabrication for various "adjustments" with the intercooler etc with another tomorrow which should mean I can finally connect the intercooler to the engine properly.
Finally it looks like I have the wiring answers I needed to integrate the Adaptronic to the stock ECU to run the REW engine, even the huge RX8Club forum in the states was stumped by my questions but happily it looks like one of the Adatronic guys has come up with a helpful response direct.
Just about the only other thing is that I have had the cat Zircoted to stop the body work melting, the turbo and down pipe will be Zircoted when complete.
After explaining that the silencer came from America and the 100 cell 4" cat came from Australia and would be difficult to replace if lost, the nice MD personally collected and returned it for me :D
As for progress its sadly come to a virtual halt again,
I am desperately trying to keep things going forward with lots of visits to Brise fabrication for various "adjustments" with the intercooler etc with another tomorrow which should mean I can finally connect the intercooler to the engine properly.
Finally it looks like I have the wiring answers I needed to integrate the Adaptronic to the stock ECU to run the REW engine, even the huge RX8Club forum in the states was stumped by my questions but happily it looks like one of the Adatronic guys has come up with a helpful response direct.
Just about the only other thing is that I have had the cat Zircoted to stop the body work melting, the turbo and down pipe will be Zircoted when complete.
After explaining that the silencer came from America and the 100 cell 4" cat came from Australia and would be difficult to replace if lost, the nice MD personally collected and returned it for me :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
Did not know youve had a burglary....words cannot describe what I feel for low life scum that steal from hardworking decent folk......
Id like 2 my wifes name and mine.
Shall we see what the uptake is in members section then open it to the rest of the forum.?
Come on girls an guys a forum backed rx8 on the grid.
Lets make it happen only 20 squid think of the banter, information, cool vids, friendships forge, good times......put your name down if interested please..
Id like 2 my wifes name and mine.
Shall we see what the uptake is in members section then open it to the rest of the forum.?
Come on girls an guys a forum backed rx8 on the grid.
Lets make it happen only 20 squid think of the banter, information, cool vids, friendships forge, good times......put your name down if interested please..
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on June 03, 2013, 01:39:23 AM
Post by: seanp on June 03, 2013, 01:39:23 AM
Sorry to hear about the theft Clive. :(
I\'m in for sponsoring a name on the car :-)
I\'m in for sponsoring a name on the car :-)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2013, 02:26:17 PM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2013, 02:26:17 PM
cool i\'ll start a list
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on June 03, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
Post by: Will66 on June 03, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on June 04, 2013, 07:23:24 AM
Post by: shaunwil on June 04, 2013, 07:23:24 AM
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2013, 02:46:09 PM
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2013, 02:46:09 PM
Its £300.00 to enter 1 race round! Lets make a goal to raise £300 to get the car on the grid for the first race and your name on the car for 1 complete session.( more if Clive decides its his car after all)..where nearly half way....
Your name could be flyin round these great circuits....we may not be able to do it in person...but in name you have...and i expect at the front!
Snetterton 300
Rockingham
Castle Combe
Brands Hatch
Mallory Park
Cadwell Park
Oulton Park
Your name could be flyin round these great circuits....we may not be able to do it in person...but in name you have...and i expect at the front!
Snetterton 300
Rockingham
Castle Combe
Brands Hatch
Mallory Park
Cadwell Park
Oulton Park
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on June 07, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Post by: rote8 on June 07, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on June 07, 2013, 09:21:13 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 07, 2013, 09:21:13 PM
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Exiled viking & Amanda
Sam viking thats £60.00 from me:Thumbs-up
Sarah my wife
Casey
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Exiled viking & Amanda
Sam viking thats £60.00 from me:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 21, 2013, 12:37:41 PM
Post by: Casey on June 21, 2013, 12:37:41 PM
Just bumping this thread - like Rote8, I\'ve added my wife to the list on the same basis "although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle". Also added my son, who might find it something to brag about to his mates; "I sponsor a racing car" ;)
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Casey\'s wife
Casey\'s son
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Exiled viking & Amanda
Sam viking thats £60.00 from me:Thumbs-up
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Casey\'s wife
Casey\'s son
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Exiled viking & Amanda
Sam viking thats £60.00 from me:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2013, 10:58:38 AM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2013, 10:58:38 AM
Quote from: Casey;859770Just bumping this thread - like Rote8, I\'ve added my wife to the list on the same basis "although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle". Also added my son, who might find it something to brag about to his mates; "I sponsor a racing car" ;)
Jon boosted
Sarah my wife
Casey
Casey\'s wife
Casey\'s son
Sean P
Will66
Shaunwil
Rote8
Rote8\'s wife (although cars leave her cold, but what the hell it\'s another £20 :Giggle)
Exiled viking & Amanda
Sam viking thats £60.00 from me:Thumbs-up
Thanks Casey was just checking in as away in Tenerife at mo.When I get back ill sort graphics and names etc..and get the first batch to Clive
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 30, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
No Race Car progress to report I\'m afraid, however, I did go to Brands yesterday and watched one race before I needed to leave.
I spoke to the series organiser Steve Vince, who reading between the lines is happy that another type of car will be out with them next year as its not yet another Subaru.
He did however reaffirm what some of the drivers said to me last time I attended in that the Rotary has a bad name in the series, i.e. once again I was told the story that two RX-7\'s have competed in the past and they blew up on every other race !!!!!!!!!!, this is why we need to get this out trackdaying to get reliability as well as find some pace.
As for the Race, that had 37 starters, I found that the leaders circulate in the 55\'s bracket which is an expected around a second faster than last year,
"apparently" my road RX-8 with stock engine circulated in high 59\'s in traffic so hopefully 55\'s is do\'able .
Couple of things, one showed a graphic example of development with Skyline that started the first race and eventually won from Martin Short\'s Subaru who is the guy building a big money RX-8 on another thread here on MRC.
The reason I say "graphic example of development" was because a year ago the Skyline was an ill handling car running in the mid field but good on the guy he has turned this monstrously bad car into a winner, flip side is I was told that a 200ZX that was winning last year has now been "developed" into a 4th and 5th placed car.
Talking to the organiser it has reaffirmed that I picked the right series because it was made clear that in the sprit of the rules, should a zillion dollar car or a car with big power turn up then it will be turned away, and apparently they have done just this before.
Lastly, I also came away with the observation that a stock engined 192 RX-8 just stripped to the regs with a cage fitted should do very very well in the GT200 class, also with stock engined RX-7\'s fitting the GT300 class nicely, so hopefully realising this will maybe get some more Rotarys out there in what I think is one of the very cheapest series out there.
I spoke to the series organiser Steve Vince, who reading between the lines is happy that another type of car will be out with them next year as its not yet another Subaru.
He did however reaffirm what some of the drivers said to me last time I attended in that the Rotary has a bad name in the series, i.e. once again I was told the story that two RX-7\'s have competed in the past and they blew up on every other race !!!!!!!!!!, this is why we need to get this out trackdaying to get reliability as well as find some pace.
As for the Race, that had 37 starters, I found that the leaders circulate in the 55\'s bracket which is an expected around a second faster than last year,
"apparently" my road RX-8 with stock engine circulated in high 59\'s in traffic so hopefully 55\'s is do\'able .
Couple of things, one showed a graphic example of development with Skyline that started the first race and eventually won from Martin Short\'s Subaru who is the guy building a big money RX-8 on another thread here on MRC.
The reason I say "graphic example of development" was because a year ago the Skyline was an ill handling car running in the mid field but good on the guy he has turned this monstrously bad car into a winner, flip side is I was told that a 200ZX that was winning last year has now been "developed" into a 4th and 5th placed car.
Talking to the organiser it has reaffirmed that I picked the right series because it was made clear that in the sprit of the rules, should a zillion dollar car or a car with big power turn up then it will be turned away, and apparently they have done just this before.
Lastly, I also came away with the observation that a stock engined 192 RX-8 just stripped to the regs with a cage fitted should do very very well in the GT200 class, also with stock engined RX-7\'s fitting the GT300 class nicely, so hopefully realising this will maybe get some more Rotarys out there in what I think is one of the very cheapest series out there.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on July 11, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Post by: boosted on July 11, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
need a couple of weeks and will get the first lot of vinyl done.....just moved house and BT have messed up so no internet! Plus my cat Reggie has escaped so im off out on me bike looking for him.....and the list of jobs my wife has for me......... FUN :Hammer
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 07, 2013, 06:19:21 PM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2013, 06:19:21 PM
First up huge thanks to Jon (Boosted) for organising much needed additional sponsorship for the race car and many thanks for the donations guys.
There are still things to buy for the car so I will put this money toward something needed then show you what your monies were spent on.
I will also get an additional seat fitted so I can take you around the track in the race car with your names on during trackdays while testing :Thumbsup!
We now have the car back in Powergains and it will now only come out as an up n running race car to "hopefully" be seen on its first full testing session at Goodwood at the end of the month (all being well) .
As you can see we now have a fully ported manifold nearing completion then its off to Zircotec for coating along with the down pipe and Turbo housing.
There are still things to buy for the car so I will put this money toward something needed then show you what your monies were spent on.
I will also get an additional seat fitted so I can take you around the track in the race car with your names on during trackdays while testing :Thumbsup!
We now have the car back in Powergains and it will now only come out as an up n running race car to "hopefully" be seen on its first full testing session at Goodwood at the end of the month (all being well) .
As you can see we now have a fully ported manifold nearing completion then its off to Zircotec for coating along with the down pipe and Turbo housing.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Thanks guys for getting the cash over to Clive promptly....there\'s still time if anybody else wishes to contribute only £20.00 get your name on the car!.....Ivor Biggun need not apply !lol!
Just put your name here or PM me.
Just put your name here or PM me.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Nice fanimold:)
Why does it taper down??
Why does it taper down??
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 08, 2013, 09:09:12 AM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2013, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;862382Nice fanimold:)
Why does it taper down??
No Idea Grant but obviously deliberate
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 10, 2013, 06:01:42 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2013, 06:01:42 PM
Getting there------------------------ Brett (who works for Kerim) sent me a couple of pictures:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
Good progress there Clive - fingers crossed here it\'ll be ready for the planned outing at the end of the month :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on August 12, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on August 12, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;862382Nice fanimold:)
Why does it taper down??
Quote from: clive;862395No Idea Grant but obviously deliberate
Its there to speed up the exhaust gasses and reduce turbulence when entering the T4 flange as the pipes and the openings on the flange are now the same size:yes
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 16, 2013, 06:30:49 PM
Post by: boosted on August 16, 2013, 06:30:49 PM
All vinyl done looks smart in a signature script...reminds of how the nascar drivers have there names written on there cars...going out first class to Clive tomoz.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 21, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Quote from: boosted;863093All vinyl done looks smart in a signature script...reminds of how the nascar drivers have there names written on there cars...going out first class to Clive tomoz.
Many thanks for the name stickers and all who are now sponsoring me, its a huge help and I have decided that your monies will go to the Fire Extinguisher system that I need to have to actually race the car as that way I have something tangible to show for the help you guys given.
For the stickers I\'m going to wait till the cars up n running so I can clean the car up and then take my time putting them on.
Just so you know, just like myself and Lisa, the series organiser Nippon Challenge organiser was blown away when I told him how all you guys were helping to get this car out there:god.
The manifold, down pipe and Turbo have arrived back to be finally bolted on, wow they look good, its a real shame the pictures don\'t show how sparkly silver the down pipe and manifold are :Thumbsup!
The fuel system is also coming together with a now simplified set up of not the 044 but a Walbro Motorsport pump that Kerim has mounted as a direct replacement to the stock pump then put a bulkhead fitting in the top as a return ---------------its getting there :mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on August 21, 2013, 04:59:25 PM
Post by: rote8 on August 21, 2013, 04:59:25 PM
Great News.:Thumbs-up Just hoping you can make its first outing on the 31st. :drivingWe are all anxious to see it completed and circulating. :3gears-rh Just as you are I imagine. ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 21, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
Post by: Casey on August 21, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
^^^What he said :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: mexx on August 26, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Post by: mexx on August 26, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Great project this Clive keep up the good work :eek:
Looking forward seeing this screaming down the track :Thumbsup!
Greetings Marcel en Marianne
Looking forward seeing this screaming down the track :Thumbsup!
Greetings Marcel en Marianne
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2013, 10:20:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2013, 10:20:39 PM
Update time surely??????
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on October 20, 2013, 11:22:36 PM
Post by: clive on October 20, 2013, 11:22:36 PM
Been over myself this week to do a couple of things in the engine bay, really just down to a few odd and sods now ----------- should be ready to fire up this week and be good to go :chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2013, 11:01:36 PM
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2013, 11:01:36 PM
We gonna get a video of the beast running?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on October 22, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
Post by: clive on October 22, 2013, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: boosted;866439We gonna get a video of the beast running?
Hopefully we will have a full season of video coming up, racing against those Skylines n Scooby\'s :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on October 22, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
Post by: boosted on October 22, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
When you come to Castle Coombe as part of your series....they run an Open saloons vs Gt\'s...The Putts usually enter that as well....so there could be 3 rotary\'s on track at 1 time.
Its usually 1 of the last races of the day though.
Its usually 1 of the last races of the day though.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 03, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
Post by: clive on November 03, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
It\'s Alive
Huge thanks to Kerim, Jaydee and Dave @Powergains who have spent the whole weekend with me getting the car fired up, till 8.30pm yesterday and 7.00pm tonight--------------you simply can\'t buy this sort of Rotary dedication because these guys want to see this car up n running just as much as me.
Bearing in mind the configuration we are running this car in by fitting the FD engine in but keeping all of the attributes of the RX-8 chassis in place, which is a first here in the UK, even Adaptronic were able to answer very little about how to make an FD engine correctly in the FE RX-8 chassis :3Confused.
Because of the above it took a very patient Jaydee something like 7 hours to build a map from scratch in the Adapronic ECU just to start the car, something way above most mortals :Thumbsup! and the out come is that Carls Bridgeport sounds great thanks to this huge amount of work that every one has put in.
Been a while but just about every thing you see under the bonnet is a one off mod by ether Powergains or myself to form this unique RX-8 engine bay.
Still got a few wiring issues to sort but it should come home as a finished car this week so I can look at starting to test and sitting Jaydee in the passenger seat at a race track to map the car in real life race conditions.
We have all been staggered and pleased by just how sophisticated the Adaptronic ECU is now we have seen it loaded up on the computer, with many many parameters incorporated within with many functions not only being able to be incorporated overall, but separately in each gear as will as vehicle speeds can be sensed so essentially you can have different power and boost levels in each gear.
Really really looking forward to driving this car to find out what it\'s capable of out on track.
This is how the car now reads, Engine by Hayward Rotary, Engineering and tuning by Powergains, rolling shell prepped by me and chassis set up by Tony Gilhams Team Hard BTCC outfit.
Huge thanks to every one for the work and support you have all put in and shown to get it this now very special RX-8 this far :god
Huge thanks to Kerim, Jaydee and Dave @Powergains who have spent the whole weekend with me getting the car fired up, till 8.30pm yesterday and 7.00pm tonight--------------you simply can\'t buy this sort of Rotary dedication because these guys want to see this car up n running just as much as me.
Bearing in mind the configuration we are running this car in by fitting the FD engine in but keeping all of the attributes of the RX-8 chassis in place, which is a first here in the UK, even Adaptronic were able to answer very little about how to make an FD engine correctly in the FE RX-8 chassis :3Confused.
Because of the above it took a very patient Jaydee something like 7 hours to build a map from scratch in the Adapronic ECU just to start the car, something way above most mortals :Thumbsup! and the out come is that Carls Bridgeport sounds great thanks to this huge amount of work that every one has put in.
Been a while but just about every thing you see under the bonnet is a one off mod by ether Powergains or myself to form this unique RX-8 engine bay.
Still got a few wiring issues to sort but it should come home as a finished car this week so I can look at starting to test and sitting Jaydee in the passenger seat at a race track to map the car in real life race conditions.
We have all been staggered and pleased by just how sophisticated the Adaptronic ECU is now we have seen it loaded up on the computer, with many many parameters incorporated within with many functions not only being able to be incorporated overall, but separately in each gear as will as vehicle speeds can be sensed so essentially you can have different power and boost levels in each gear.
Really really looking forward to driving this car to find out what it\'s capable of out on track.
This is how the car now reads, Engine by Hayward Rotary, Engineering and tuning by Powergains, rolling shell prepped by me and chassis set up by Tony Gilhams Team Hard BTCC outfit.
Huge thanks to every one for the work and support you have all put in and shown to get it this now very special RX-8 this far :god
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 03, 2013, 09:47:22 PM
Post by: Casey on November 03, 2013, 09:47:22 PM
Great news Clive, a major milestone! Well done to everyone involved. Looking forward to seeing and hearing the beast soon :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on November 03, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
Post by: shaunwil on November 03, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
Awesome news :D Can\'t wait to see you buzzing past on a trackday, next year should be brilliant :D
There is an unsilenced trackday at donnington on the 11th (I think). Can check up if that helps.
Shaun
There is an unsilenced trackday at donnington on the 11th (I think). Can check up if that helps.
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 03, 2013, 10:04:43 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 03, 2013, 10:04:43 PM
Excellent news, gives me renewed hope for mine, I\'m keen to keep aspects of the RX8 electronics (principally the DSC and ABS) in my project and I wasn\'t finding too many ways of achieving this successfully.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Ian.Mothersole on November 03, 2013, 10:19:49 PM
Post by: Ian.Mothersole on November 03, 2013, 10:19:49 PM
Can\'t wait to see and hear this out on track!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on November 03, 2013, 10:54:31 PM
Post by: C J R on November 03, 2013, 10:54:31 PM
Brilliant news Clive. Well done to all involved. Kerim and Jay are definately the guys to get the job done.
Look forward to seeing this in action. :3gears-lh
Chris
Look forward to seeing this in action. :3gears-lh
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mr Froggy on November 03, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Post by: Mr Froggy on November 03, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Fantastic news well done to powergains and Hayward\'s.
realy pleased for ya clive happy days. :
realy pleased for ya clive happy days. :
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on November 04, 2013, 01:05:28 AM
Post by: seanp on November 04, 2013, 01:05:28 AM
Great news Clive. Cannot wait to see / hear it (hint hint... where\'s the video!) :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Well done Clive and team:D
As Sean says...... You got it started but no video:(
I want to see the video of Jay mapping whilst your hurtling around the track too!! That will be a new experience for him I\'m sure/
As Sean says...... You got it started but no video:(
I want to see the video of Jay mapping whilst your hurtling around the track too!! That will be a new experience for him I\'m sure/
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2013, 08:49:13 AM
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2013, 08:49:13 AM
The news we have all ben waiting for. I wish now I had followed through with my intention to drop over to Powergains knowing you were there :wave but the wife had other ideas.:mad:
Having seen the extra mile that Karim, Jaydee and Dave go to I have no doubt that this project is just going to get better and better and you, Haywards and the guys at Powergains along with Team Hard deserve all credit for pulling this together despite a few setbacks.:god
Can\'t wait to see and hear this out on track as I can just imagine the RX8 chassis along with this engine pairing and with Clive at the wheel it is going to be a very competitive car.
After Jay can I bag the next passenger seat ride. Pretty please.:Laugh
Having seen the extra mile that Karim, Jaydee and Dave go to I have no doubt that this project is just going to get better and better and you, Haywards and the guys at Powergains along with Team Hard deserve all credit for pulling this together despite a few setbacks.:god
Can\'t wait to see and hear this out on track as I can just imagine the RX8 chassis along with this engine pairing and with Clive at the wheel it is going to be a very competitive car.
After Jay can I bag the next passenger seat ride. Pretty please.:Laugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Pukka on November 04, 2013, 09:46:19 AM
Post by: Pukka on November 04, 2013, 09:46:19 AM
Well done Clive, Jaydee, Kerim ,Dave & main Sponser Lisa
I know the sense of relief & joy that you are feeling now when the "Project comes to Life" as I had with mine.
There is a lot of hard work ,time, & effort goes into building a race car, and I\'m really glad that it has all come together for you all.
ps Good product placement on the photo\'s (Ballistic)
I know the sense of relief & joy that you are feeling now when the "Project comes to Life" as I had with mine.
There is a lot of hard work ,time, & effort goes into building a race car, and I\'m really glad that it has all come together for you all.
ps Good product placement on the photo\'s (Ballistic)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Clarky on November 04, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
Post by: Clarky on November 04, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
Congrats to you Clive and all the team that have put in so much hard brain power to get to this stage, not an easy task to make it all gel together, hope testing goes well.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
Thanks Guys,
Video, nah,:Hammer
Rubbish at this stuff so I have asked for one to be taken next time its fired up for you on here, sound is unusual for a Rotary, sounded more like a raspy piston engined Race car.
Be interesting to hear it out of the workshop to see if its any different
Ray, as one of my sponsors (thankyou) a ride is no problem once all is well,
p.s. Phil I know you have trod this painful journey------------ nearly there:D
Video, nah,:Hammer
Rubbish at this stuff so I have asked for one to be taken next time its fired up for you on here, sound is unusual for a Rotary, sounded more like a raspy piston engined Race car.
Be interesting to hear it out of the workshop to see if its any different
Ray, as one of my sponsors (thankyou) a ride is no problem once all is well,
p.s. Phil I know you have trod this painful journey------------ nearly there:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
Like a piston?!! Pah I\'m not a fan then ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
Excellent news. Cant wait to see and hear it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: clive;867036.............sounded more like a raspy piston engined Race car......
:2eek:2eek:Nono! Start again.......;):)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
Trust me, its a nice noise :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: clive;867036Ray, as one of my sponsors (thankyou) a ride is no problem once all is well
Perhaps best I don\'t in case the race bug bites.;) I have already regretted, a number of times, not purchasing the track prepped RX7 you located for me a few years back.:(
I\'ve already been accused by a couple of track day instructors of being too competitive and using tactics like late braking, trail braking and using lots of kerb at apexes and on exits to gain ground :spank and just aimed at catching the next car down the track.:yes
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 09:02:01 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2013, 09:02:01 PM
Quote from: rote8;867054I\'ve already been accused by a couple of track day instructors of being too competitive and using tactics like late braking, trail braking and using lots of kerb at apexes and on exits to gain ground :spank and just aimed at catching the next car down the track.:yes
I can\'t see anything wrong with the above, nothing like a good bit of kerb :rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 04, 2013, 09:12:34 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 04, 2013, 09:12:34 PM
Gotta love a bit of kerb
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 05, 2013, 04:42:12 AM
Post by: re japi on November 05, 2013, 04:42:12 AM
Good job everyone :)
Ya, I was hoping video too ;)
And what is the most important thing, does she go brabbrab? ;D
Ya, I was hoping video too ;)
And what is the most important thing, does she go brabbrab? ;D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 05, 2013, 09:23:13 AM
Post by: rote8 on November 05, 2013, 09:23:13 AM
Quote from: clive;867058I can\'t see anything wrong with the above, nothing like a good bit of kerb :rollin
I\'ve always assumed that the kerb is there to aid steering. :rollin Although some deserve a little respect.:Nono!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 05, 2013, 11:55:12 AM
Post by: Will66 on November 05, 2013, 11:55:12 AM
Kerbs are there to give your inside wheels something to rest on whilst undertaking extremely rapid changes of direction.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: JayDee on November 05, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
Post by: JayDee on November 05, 2013, 02:12:40 PM
I find its the best place to map track cars, takes a few laps for me to trust the driver!, then I can keep my head in the lap top and not look lol.
Oulton park and cadwell gives me a bad headache after a while though lol
Oulton park and cadwell gives me a bad headache after a while though lol
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867024Well done Clive and team:D
As Sean says...... You got it started but no video:(
I want to see the video of Jay mapping whilst your hurtling around the track too!! That will be a new experience for him I\'m sure/
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: JayDee;867091I find its the best place to map track cars, takes a few laps for me to trust the driver!, then I can keep my head in the lap top and not look lol.
Oulton park and cadwell gives me a bad headache after a while though lol
.....i get sick reading a text when being driven on the roads....could not use a laptop whilst being hurtled round a circuit....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 05, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 05, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: JayDee;867091I find its the best place to map track cars, takes a few laps for me to trust the driver!
You can trust Clive, he aims in the general direction and stamps on the loud pedal then stands on the brakes and turns in whilst giving it opposite lock.:rollin ;)
Quote from: JayDee;867091Oulton park and cadwell gives me a bad headache after a while though
Judging by some of the videos they give a few drivers a headaches as well, especially Mountain (where a laptop would go airborne) and even more so Hall Bends into the Hairpin at Cadwell. :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: fil_auto on November 05, 2013, 03:58:10 PM
Post by: fil_auto on November 05, 2013, 03:58:10 PM
Top work Jay / Kerim, looking forward to seeing and hearing FD:UKer, tearing up some tracks next year :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: JayDee;867091I find its the best place to map track cars, takes a few laps for me to trust the driver!, then I can keep my head in the lap top and not look lol.
Oulton park and cadwell gives me a bad headache after a while though lol
Yeh best place for sure as there\'s no cars coming the other way. I have been a passenger in Clive\'s NA rx8....... I think my hand print is still on the door handle for holding on whilst he nailed it around oulton park:evillaugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 05, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Here we go Kerim sent this over, then a friend of mine converted it up onto you tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQ5k3dUGss
More to come another day:Thumbsup!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQ5k3dUGss
More to come another day:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 05, 2013, 08:04:44 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 05, 2013, 08:04:44 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867102Yeh best place for sure as there\'s no cars coming the other way. I have been a passenger in Clive\'s NA rx8....... I think my hand print is still on the door handle for holding on whilst he nailed it around oulton park:evillaugh
You got a passenger ride Grant... You lucky boy
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
Sounds gooooooood
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 05, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: Arnie_O;867118You got a passenger ride Grant... You lucky boy
Yep, my jaw and cheeks still ache from smiling so much for 4/5 laps
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 05, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 05, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
I got some hot laps with him at Cadwell part a couple years back.
Was awesome.
Glad the motors running now Clive
Was awesome.
Glad the motors running now Clive
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 06, 2013, 05:20:10 AM
Post by: re japi on November 06, 2013, 05:20:10 AM
Thank you sir :)
It kind of sounds funny, she doesent brap much :)
It kind of sounds funny, she doesent brap much :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 06, 2013, 08:09:03 AM
Post by: Will66 on November 06, 2013, 08:09:03 AM
It sounds nice, but it doesn\'t sound like an aggressive bridgeport, a lot of the 13B motors I\'ve seen racing recently don\'t though. Umar Masood\'s RX7 Time Attack car sounds similar, probably a very similar engine spec though. I guess it\'s the price you pay to get these through the noise regs.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 06, 2013, 08:46:31 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 06, 2013, 08:46:31 AM
it will brap don\'t worry
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Turblown on November 08, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
Post by: Turblown on November 08, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
Looks good! Sorry if I missed any emails, wasn\'t intentional!
I do have one question for you about the return style fuel system. Are you just using one fuel tank? The factory fuel pressure regulator siphons from the other tank.
I do have one question for you about the return style fuel system. Are you just using one fuel tank? The factory fuel pressure regulator siphons from the other tank.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Turblown on November 08, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
Post by: Turblown on November 08, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
Lastly I am curious why it took 7 hours to create a running base map? Not knocking anyhow, but in my experience you can have a car up and running from scratch in under 10 minutes using the VE tuning. Was it just a matter of trigger settings?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 09, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 09, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: Turblown;867253Looks good! Sorry if I missed any emails, wasn\'t intentional!
I do have one question for you about the return style fuel system. Are you just using one fuel tank? The factory fuel pressure regulator siphons from the other tank.
Many thanks Elliot, I am hoping that by having the syphon pipe right near the pick up this will start the syphon effect ok
Having a few issues ATM that I have posted on the RX8Club, could you have a look if you get a chance please
http://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/uk-rx-8-fd-engined-race-car-249426/#post4542553
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:03:11 AM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:03:11 AM
Anyone here good at following wiring diagrams because one thing we are struggling with is that we have no live OBD port so we cant read any codes off.
Anyone got just an OBD wiring diagram at all please.
Or can bring out the page needed to follow the wiring from the OBD port I have drawn below
Wiring diagram below.
http://www.rotaryheads.com/PDF/RX8/13Electrical.pdf
BTW, I have deliberately not cut any wiring.
Anyone got just an OBD wiring diagram at all please.
Or can bring out the page needed to follow the wiring from the OBD port I have drawn below
Wiring diagram below.
http://www.rotaryheads.com/PDF/RX8/13Electrical.pdf
BTW, I have deliberately not cut any wiring.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
Tried calling last night about this it looks like the power goes through the main 120a fuse the the 15a room fuse
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:42:58 AM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:42:58 AM
Thanks Aston, off over there shortly and will check these fuses, I know the room fuse is OK but will check continuity from the main fuse box
Based on that diagram I now need to check what and where the SAS Control module is, incase I have not got it connected
Many thanks for yours and Dads help yesterday
Based on that diagram I now need to check what and where the SAS Control module is, incase I have not got it connected
Many thanks for yours and Dads help yesterday
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
Ignore that,its air bag stuff.
http://www.mazdarx8.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Rx8-Safety.pdf
http://www.mazdarx8.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Rx8-Safety.pdf
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 11:01:53 AM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 11:01:53 AM
Also found this...
It shows associated common worse the are used between components.
OBD is bottom right
Having difficulty navigating the manual as I can\'t locate sections like "1b-h"
It shows associated common worse the are used between components.
OBD is bottom right
Having difficulty navigating the manual as I can\'t locate sections like "1b-h"
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 11:09:32 AM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 11:09:32 AM
Clive my obd plug is tucked up under the westy dash Im assuming your trying to hook up a port to get the codes?.......i can reverse engineer it back into the loom if any help...couple of cut cable ties and its down and i can photo for you.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
Hopefully we get some good news on this..
2 things I have contact number for the guy who originally converted the rx8 motor into mine.
And I can make my car available to you to have a look at its wiring after saturday.
I
2 things I have contact number for the guy who originally converted the rx8 motor into mine.
And I can make my car available to you to have a look at its wiring after saturday.
I
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
We got a bit further today (we think)
We have now sorted the OBD wiring wich did turn out to be an empty fuse holder and have read the codes, sure enough PO 1688 is amongst the 16 codes we have brought up.
Removed the two OMP pipe bungs started the engine and nothing came out,. would this happen with an out of adjustment position sensor.
Also I now need to find out from Adaptronic or somebody who maybe knows on here if we need a front O2 sensor as my guy now thinks this closed loop facility may only be available on the stand alone Adaptronic only.
Do you know if any of the other codes below other than the OMP with throw the ECU into limp mode so we don\'t cure one bit and still have another going on ??
PO113
P2008
PO443
0037
0031
0000
0102 map sensor
1688
2259 air solenoid
0661 solenoid
0037 cat sensor
0031 front O2 sensor
0113
0300
2201
1300
Really appreciate this help.
We have now sorted the OBD wiring wich did turn out to be an empty fuse holder and have read the codes, sure enough PO 1688 is amongst the 16 codes we have brought up.
Removed the two OMP pipe bungs started the engine and nothing came out,. would this happen with an out of adjustment position sensor.
Also I now need to find out from Adaptronic or somebody who maybe knows on here if we need a front O2 sensor as my guy now thinks this closed loop facility may only be available on the stand alone Adaptronic only.
Do you know if any of the other codes below other than the OMP with throw the ECU into limp mode so we don\'t cure one bit and still have another going on ??
PO113
P2008
PO443
0037
0031
0000
0102 map sensor
1688
2259 air solenoid
0661 solenoid
0037 cat sensor
0031 front O2 sensor
0113
0300
2201
1300
Really appreciate this help.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: boosted;867332Clive my obd plug is tucked up under the westy dash Im assuming your trying to hook up a port to get the codes?.......i can reverse engineer it back into the loom if any help...couple of cut cable ties and its down and i can photo for you.
Thanks Jon,
We think we are all ok with the wiring now, just got to stop the car going into limp mode so it can be mapped
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
Ill go and get codes from mine now..
I have no abs pas instrument cluster steering angle or post cat connected. Ill be back in a mo.
I have no abs pas instrument cluster steering angle or post cat connected. Ill be back in a mo.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 06:48:01 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 10, 2013, 06:48:01 PM
PO113 - unknown but may revert to a default base map to run
P2008 - Unknown
PO443 - unknown
0037 - no
0031 - possible but can\'t remember
0000 - have no clue what this is
0102 map sensor - unknown but may revert to a default base map to run
1688 - YES
2259 air solenoid - NO
0661 solenoid
0037 cat sensor
0031 front O2 sensor
0113
0300 random/multiple cylinder miss fire - don\'t honk so but power loss is possible
2201 - Unknown
1300 - unknown but I think this is igniter based so could be adding to the P0300 issue
Not all definite answers but hope its of help
P2008 - Unknown
PO443 - unknown
0037 - no
0031 - possible but can\'t remember
0000 - have no clue what this is
0102 map sensor - unknown but may revert to a default base map to run
1688 - YES
2259 air solenoid - NO
0661 solenoid
0037 cat sensor
0031 front O2 sensor
0113
0300 random/multiple cylinder miss fire - don\'t honk so but power loss is possible
2201 - Unknown
1300 - unknown but I think this is igniter based so could be adding to the P0300 issue
Not all definite answers but hope its of help
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
U0121 lost comm anti lock brake ctr1
U0155 lost comm IPC inst cluster
I only have 2 in there at mo because battery isolator was turned off. 6 are stored after a drive before reset ( isolator off) ive driven mine for 40 mins and 6 is all i get. I cant see any resistors spliced into loom to replicate sensor.
I have no post cat sensor so get a code for cat and heater for that sensor and no air pump but the solenoid is still connected but i get a code for secondary air circuit.
There will be definitions for all these codes on BBAreman.
Pre cat 02 sensor is key for the car to run in closed loop...defo need to check if this is required with the adaptronic.
Does it do its start up routine? (The hi pitch electrical scream and actuator pulsing?)
U0155 lost comm IPC inst cluster
I only have 2 in there at mo because battery isolator was turned off. 6 are stored after a drive before reset ( isolator off) ive driven mine for 40 mins and 6 is all i get. I cant see any resistors spliced into loom to replicate sensor.
I have no post cat sensor so get a code for cat and heater for that sensor and no air pump but the solenoid is still connected but i get a code for secondary air circuit.
There will be definitions for all these codes on BBAreman.
Pre cat 02 sensor is key for the car to run in closed loop...defo need to check if this is required with the adaptronic.
Does it do its start up routine? (The hi pitch electrical scream and actuator pulsing?)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 07:25:39 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2013, 07:25:39 PM
Thanks Jon
Andy@adaptronic has mailed to say we do need the front sensor.
Does not seem to go through the normal fuel start up probably because we are using a fuel return system the same as an FD
Andy@adaptronic has mailed to say we do need the front sensor.
Does not seem to go through the normal fuel start up probably because we are using a fuel return system the same as an FD
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: gsb876 on November 13, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
Post by: gsb876 on November 13, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
Brilliant project, sounds great too :-)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 15, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
Post by: boosted on November 15, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CHAQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rotaryheads.com%2FPDF%2FRX8%2F&ei=7HeGUrnENsqBhAf0loGACw&usg=AFQjCNGsFOtcjJz_kdKFIhLDxLS5nSetMg&sig2=6VGgoFNNlSQfChOwD8YRoQ
Found full electrics here and started having a look....is the omp doing its learn on start up? needs to see fully open switch?
Found full electrics here and started having a look....is the omp doing its learn on start up? needs to see fully open switch?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 15, 2013, 07:58:11 PM
Post by: clive on November 15, 2013, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: boosted;867544https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CHAQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rotaryheads.com%2FPDF%2FRX8%2F&ei=7HeGUrnENsqBhAf0loGACw&usg=AFQjCNGsFOtcjJz_kdKFIhLDxLS5nSetMg&sig2=6VGgoFNNlSQfChOwD8YRoQ
Found full electrics here and started having a look....is the omp doing its learn on start up? needs to see fully open switch?
Goes into limp mode after 3 to 4 seconds which must mean it is limping because it cant go through it\'s initialisation process let alone anything else !
Sent over diagrams I have been scribbling on courtesy of Aston who has also been a Huge help along the way.
BTW All sorted to put the Maf wiring back in the system on Sunday
Nearly nearly there (I think)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 15, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 15, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
:Giggle:mmmm:Thumbsup!Excited
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on November 15, 2013, 08:25:01 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on November 15, 2013, 08:25:01 PM
Filters crossed...
Remember you also need to thank "the show car" for its contribution to diagnostic services rendered
Remember you also need to thank "the show car" for its contribution to diagnostic services rendered
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 15, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Post by: clive on November 15, 2013, 09:19:10 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867546:Giggle:mmmm:Thumbsup!Excited
You just might even be more excited when you hear it revving as we all agree it sounds like no other Rotary we have ever heard:D
Kerim believes its probably due to the unique intake system with its Racing Beat "Weber" lower intake and fabricated upper intake yes, Carl built a real nice Bridge Port for the car but it sounds like no Bridge Port you have ever heard :D.
I have the car back home now so I can hopefully sort the wiring issues, Adaptronic have been a help with info with many e-mails but it turns out nobody has ever integrated the RX-8 chassis system to operate alongside the REW engine as those who have tried have ended up bombing out and fitting a manual throttle body to get around the problems that have now had many man hours devoted to.
Shame is if we had not encountered these multiple wiring issues the car would have been driving and mapped a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 15, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 15, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
Is the LIM a 4 branch fed from 2 throttle bodies? Or 4 branch from 1?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 16, 2013, 07:51:18 AM
Post by: clive on November 16, 2013, 07:51:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867549Is the LIM a 4 branch fed from 2 throttle bodies? Or 4 branch from 1?
Just off out but there is a picture back on this thread where the clutch pictures are
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 20, 2013, 08:41:13 PM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2013, 08:41:13 PM
IT LIVES, it starts, it revs and keeps on revving, looks like NO more limp mode and up n running.
Now it feels like we are getting there, between Jon (Boosted) working out how to tell the OMP lies with the wiring and me wiring back in the MAF sensor and fitting it in the intercooler pipe before the throttle body IT LIVES :D
Now it feels like we are getting there, between Jon (Boosted) working out how to tell the OMP lies with the wiring and me wiring back in the MAF sensor and fitting it in the intercooler pipe before the throttle body IT LIVES :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 20, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 20, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
Niiiiice work! How did you fool the OMP and is it still pumping oil?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 20, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Post by: Casey on November 20, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
^^ What Will asked and PHEW, massive relief to hear that\'s one more "snagging fault" sorted!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 20, 2013, 09:42:29 PM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2013, 09:42:29 PM
We fooled the OMP by joining the white and red wires together in the big OMP plug and gave it a false feed (lied to it) need to pull a pipe off to check feed but that\'s not an issue if its not because its going to be pre-mixed
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 20, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 20, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Interesting! I\'d be interested to know if there\'s any flow through the OMP but it\'s a neat trick to fool it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 21, 2013, 06:00:50 AM
Post by: re japi on November 21, 2013, 06:00:50 AM
Stupid question: What is OMP?
Good job guys!
Clive, and where is the video? ;) We need videos :D
Good job guys!
Clive, and where is the video? ;) We need videos :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 06:31:31 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 06:31:31 AM
Quote from: re japi;867833Stupid question: What is OMP?
Good job guys!
Clive, and where is the video? ;) We need videos :D
Oil Metering Pump. What controls the injection of oil for lubricating the apex seals.
Premix ing is far superior as you aren\'t using dirty engine oil inside your engine.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 07:32:17 AM
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 07:32:17 AM
You can run an OMP with a device called a Sohn adapter which takes oil from an external tank rather than the engine\'s oil system.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
The 2 red with white tracers are a 12v feed and by joining them (as they are effectively the same feed joined further back in an original loom)and supplying a suitable fused supply from a power feed the OMP would run and this in turn would trigger the open switch which would output a 12V signal to the PCM and hence not go into limp. In should be pumping oil no problem.
Because Clives loom has been modified and all port actuators removed these are fed from same power feed and would be very difficult to try and find this within the race loom. So it was deemed appropriate to feed the omp directly with a fused power lead.
Now can we have a video of the beast revving!!!!:burnout
Because Clives loom has been modified and all port actuators removed these are fed from same power feed and would be very difficult to try and find this within the race loom. So it was deemed appropriate to feed the omp directly with a fused power lead.
Now can we have a video of the beast revving!!!!:burnout
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
Video or ban, it\'s your choice Clive:):D hehe
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 21, 2013, 01:01:35 PM
Post by: clive on November 21, 2013, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: boosted;867842Now can we have a video of the beast revving!!!!:burnout
Won\'t be for a while I\'m afraid, I have no idea on how but others will later,
Still desperatly trying to get the car to Brands where I booked and paid for, even if its only to drone around getting some miles on the engine
I\'m sure video will come then.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
When will Jay do the final map on it, you do know Clive it will be well over 400bhp, you gonna have to turn the boost down give the others on track a chance lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 03:35:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 03:35:28 PM
They will never know what power level he\'s at on the track will they unless they dyno the car immediately before and after a race.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 03:40:37 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 03:40:37 PM
so how do they (race organizers) monitor power levels in certain race series where power levels are in the rules?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867868so how do they (race organizers) monitor power levels in certain race series where power levels are in the rules?
.........they might read forum post :rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
I dunno. Do they actually do dynoing to make it fair?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867868so how do they (race organizers) monitor power levels in certain race series where power levels are in the rules?
.........they might read forum post :rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:32:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: boosted;867874.........they might read forum post :rollin
Ha, but you could plant ones intentionally. Like "my car only make 400hp at 2bar" but it would be more like 600 etc
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
Clives series is split into bhp catergories gt150 gt200 etc....so i think we will have to wait til he comes along to explain...I think there is a Gt unlimited as well!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
Push to pass button"Overboost" facility :p
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:59:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 21, 2013, 04:59:03 PM
Ha yeh a simple "my wastegate must have stuck shut giving me more boost, good job Jay mapped those cells properly just incase of said situation"
I think Clive in 400hp rx8 is going to be really
Quick
Machine
I think Clive in 400hp rx8 is going to be really
Quick
Machine
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on November 21, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on November 21, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Cannot wait to see her on track:driving:driving:driving
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 10:12:37 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 10:12:37 PM
Series with restricted power levels can demand you go to a dyno of their choice to check the power of your car. Trackday Trophy won\'t let you enter without a dyno sheet from one of their approved dynos.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 21, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
defo open to abuse then that method of checking power then, must be rife amongst the field.
Better way is putting a air restricter in the front of the turbo like they do in WRC I believe, this limits the amount of air that can be ingested ergo limit the actual power produced due to only being a finite amount of air to be burnt with the fuel
Better way is putting a air restricter in the front of the turbo like they do in WRC I believe, this limits the amount of air that can be ingested ergo limit the actual power produced due to only being a finite amount of air to be burnt with the fuel
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 21, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
Indeed but cheating in clubman racing is a quick way to getting blacklisted by most clubs and just not racing.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 12:38:26 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 12:38:26 AM
very hard to catch someone cheating in the power stakes, you can easy have some kind of parameter that would only activate on circuit, but soon as the system knows its on the dyno then it will revert to a different setting. So long as you are not blatantly that much faster then the field, hard to get caught at this type of "clubman" level
F1 knows this goes on hence why they introduced a standard ECU amongst the teams that gets regularly interrogated eg with logs and settings and telemetry to check no cheating is be done. This defo needed when the new turbo era starts.
F1 knows this goes on hence why they introduced a standard ECU amongst the teams that gets regularly interrogated eg with logs and settings and telemetry to check no cheating is be done. This defo needed when the new turbo era starts.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 05:27:19 AM
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 05:27:19 AM
I know the regs for saloons at combe and all forced induction have a max boost in psi and the ecu is controlled...last look a motec 800 and the access ports are sealed.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 06:38:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 06:38:39 AM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867904defo open to abuse then that method of checking power then, must be rife amongst the field.
Better way is putting a air restricter in the front of the turbo like they do in WRC I believe, this limits the amount of air that can be ingested ergo limit the actual power produced due to only being a finite amount of air to be burnt with the fuel
I think Clive had mentioned the skyline in the class had to run a Restrictor in class to limit its power.
I\'m sure Clive knows more than we do.
I think rules are there to be pushed, they push them in every sport, just look at all the bits of aero that have creeped back onto the f1 cars after they were told to remove them years ago to look like proper f1 cars.
The f1 turbo motors will be fun until they control any development over the years. I\'m sure they will come up with ways to exceed the 3.5 bar limit without the ecu recording it
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 08:24:20 AM
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 08:24:20 AM
I think the F1 motors will run pop-off valves so that if the boost gets above a certain level it vents to atmosphere and you lose power.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 22, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
Post by: clive on November 22, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
Hi All,
Here we go, here\'s a picture of the MAF sensor installed, still doesn\'t seem right to have MAF and MAP both installed but the RX-8 MAF acts as a heat sensor as well as a flow sensor to give the ECU info alongside the MAP sensor.
I always felt I needed this installed and got the Racing Beat alloy MAF tube like a year ago, as you can see below I chopped it up and fitted it in the Intercooler pipe.
Over the next week I\'m going to try to finalise the exhaust and plumb the screamer pipe back in plus a few other odds and sods then try and get Jaydee in the car to map it.
As for rules, basically the goal posts move about a bit on this one and as you will see below this is why I wanted the more than 400bhp capability.
Will, you will see your car would fit comfortably in a class below with a good chance of winning.
Nippon Challenge Class Structure
Figures are BHP at flywheel and minimum race weight including driver and residual fuel.
Class A: GT300/1110KG
Class B: GT250/1060KG
Class C: GT200/1010KG
Class D: GT150/960KG Class E: SUPER GT [INVITATION]
Any car deemed to be in the spirit of the series not conforming to the
above regulations No weight restrictions, Notional max power 400bhp at promoters discretion.
Here\'s the full regulation copy
http://www.trackattackraceclub.com/downloads/regulations/2013-nipponchallenge-technical.pdf
Here we go, here\'s a picture of the MAF sensor installed, still doesn\'t seem right to have MAF and MAP both installed but the RX-8 MAF acts as a heat sensor as well as a flow sensor to give the ECU info alongside the MAP sensor.
I always felt I needed this installed and got the Racing Beat alloy MAF tube like a year ago, as you can see below I chopped it up and fitted it in the Intercooler pipe.
Over the next week I\'m going to try to finalise the exhaust and plumb the screamer pipe back in plus a few other odds and sods then try and get Jaydee in the car to map it.
As for rules, basically the goal posts move about a bit on this one and as you will see below this is why I wanted the more than 400bhp capability.
Will, you will see your car would fit comfortably in a class below with a good chance of winning.
Nippon Challenge Class Structure
Figures are BHP at flywheel and minimum race weight including driver and residual fuel.
Class A: GT300/1110KG
Class B: GT250/1060KG
Class C: GT200/1010KG
Class D: GT150/960KG Class E: SUPER GT [INVITATION]
Any car deemed to be in the spirit of the series not conforming to the
above regulations No weight restrictions, Notional max power 400bhp at promoters discretion.
Here\'s the full regulation copy
http://www.trackattackraceclub.com/downloads/regulations/2013-nipponchallenge-technical.pdf
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 11:48:45 AM
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 11:48:45 AM
Hmmmmm, gives me an idea. I\'m starting my new job on Monday so I ought to have the funds to make it happen over the next few months!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 11:59:10 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 11:59:10 AM
Quote from: Will66;867924I think the F1 motors will run pop-off valves so that if the boost gets above a certain level it vents to atmosphere and you lose power.
In the past yes, still not a surefire way in the modern world, air restricter is the only way to go in my eyes, you can get more CFM without hitting a certain boost threshold, through turbo design. Eg one turbo could be flowing 300 CFM at 2 BAR and another 350 CFM at the same boost pressure
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 22, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 22, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
What you are discussing here is not exactly a new thing! People have been racing cars on circuit for decades and having power formulas along with weights.
Not much point debating it really.
The rules are taken care by a number of measures.
Not much point debating it really.
The rules are taken care by a number of measures.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
No sh**** Sherlock
I like to debate why not!!! its entertaining :p
I like to debate why not!!! its entertaining :p
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 22, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 22, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867942No sh**** Sherlock
I like to debate why not!!! its entertaining :p
LOL:rollin:D:evillaugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
Whats suspension will it be running, I think corner speed will win races then straight out top speed and power to be fair?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Me too. People have always abided by rules for racing but it\'s each persons interpretation of a rule which can help them gain an advantage over others. With a wide variety of cars in a series it\'s difficult too give a level playing field as some things benefit other differently.
The FIA GT championship is the prime example, they have v8 v10 v12 cars all different power levels and different levels of aero to monitor.
The only question is will Clive dyno the car if Jay is mapping it on track? Hmm
The FIA GT championship is the prime example, they have v8 v10 v12 cars all different power levels and different levels of aero to monitor.
The only question is will Clive dyno the car if Jay is mapping it on track? Hmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867949Whats suspension will it be running, I think corner speed will win races then straight out top speed and power to be fair?Tein suspension or is it tien?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:41:29 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:41:29 PM
I Quite like HSDs, they seem to perform, or the Ohlins where you change the settings on the fly, I wonder if they allow active suspension like the Williams in the early 90s
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
Ohlins are mega bucks aren\'t they?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
yeah pretty expensive, but effective!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
how quiet will the car be, sub 92DB?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 01:54:54 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 01:54:54 PM
Ohlins are £1600 a set for the RX8, KW Competiton 3 way dampers are £5k for the RX8. KW Two way dampers are £2100 too. Not sure what the price for Nitron shocks are but they aren\'t cheap.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 02:13:37 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 02:13:37 PM
Oh yes forgot about Nitron!! they are supposed to be musturd!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jinx on November 22, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
Post by: jinx on November 22, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
Nobody cheats at club level? They all cheat if they can and can afford to - it\'s called \'gaining a competitive advantage\' until you get caught.
Production saloon racers used to be forbidden brake balance valves yet they were in every glove box and no scrutineer ever looked because they knew what they would find if they did. At one extreme there are rules, at the other...an empty grid!
Back then there were often two supposedly identical cars side by side, one of them running the standard suspension as defined by the rules while the other one was lower and sporting several degrees of negative camber. The rewards were small so nobody ever said anything and the guys with the standard set up kicked themselves for not having thought of it first or for being unable to afford the different, circuit specific, set ups it took to run at the front of the class.
Motor sport rules have always been a game of cat and mouse and that won\'t change while the bloke behind the wheel wants to win...or just keep up with all the other cheating b*****ds. :)
The Nippon series used to have access to a mobile dyno for random HP testing if they chose to invoke the rules. They probably still do. Whether they ever elected to use it is another matter altogether!
Production saloon racers used to be forbidden brake balance valves yet they were in every glove box and no scrutineer ever looked because they knew what they would find if they did. At one extreme there are rules, at the other...an empty grid!
Back then there were often two supposedly identical cars side by side, one of them running the standard suspension as defined by the rules while the other one was lower and sporting several degrees of negative camber. The rewards were small so nobody ever said anything and the guys with the standard set up kicked themselves for not having thought of it first or for being unable to afford the different, circuit specific, set ups it took to run at the front of the class.
Motor sport rules have always been a game of cat and mouse and that won\'t change while the bloke behind the wheel wants to win...or just keep up with all the other cheating b*****ds. :)
The Nippon series used to have access to a mobile dyno for random HP testing if they chose to invoke the rules. They probably still do. Whether they ever elected to use it is another matter altogether!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
:Thumbs-up Thanks for the info Jinx, very good insight what goes into circuit racing
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
AND MONEY....This is at all levels....starts at karting...the kid with the rich dad has the best of everything....the kid with talent and shoestring budget comes 2nd!
Remember Damon Hill?
Remember Damon Hill?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
racing = empty wallet lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 03:56:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867974racing and women = empty wallet lol
Fixed that for you blitz ;):):D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
Post by: boosted on November 22, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867974racing = empty wallet lol
Oh yes! :eek: I\'m working boxing day overtime in fact got xmas day off New Years day and working the rest OT and lieu! To keep the coffers coming in. I\'ll be all right but if i have a big crash its all over!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 04:08:36 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867980Fixed that for you blitz ;):):D
Thanks I thought I forgot something lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 23, 2013, 06:10:54 AM
Post by: re japi on November 23, 2013, 06:10:54 AM
I agree with Grant and Jinx. In motorsports, everyone allways tryes to "bend" the rules to gain advance. That is just the way it is. No matter if its cheap or expensive...
Dunno about circuit racing, but Ohlins is the best in gravel. Lately Tein has done a good job too. Their coilovers works a little bit differently that old type coilovers, so Tein has a little advantage now. I have understand that KW is good at streets but at the track in racing...
Well, to get good balance for the car, it really is difficult. You have to be a rocket science ;) My opinion is that if its possible, try to get few pro drivers to test it and tell their thoughts about what to do with setup...
Dunno about circuit racing, but Ohlins is the best in gravel. Lately Tein has done a good job too. Their coilovers works a little bit differently that old type coilovers, so Tein has a little advantage now. I have understand that KW is good at streets but at the track in racing...
Well, to get good balance for the car, it really is difficult. You have to be a rocket science ;) My opinion is that if its possible, try to get few pro drivers to test it and tell their thoughts about what to do with setup...
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 23, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
Post by: boosted on November 23, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
:rollin:Dvroom vroom video today?:Tongue1:yes:cool
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: boosted;868012:rollin:Dvroom vroom video today?:Tongue1:yes:cool
Sorry no vid,that will have to wait till Brands where I\'m sure somebody will take somthing.
Just been sorting the wastgate piping out etc, plus fitting seat belts for the passenger so I can get the car mapped.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on November 23, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on November 23, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
passenger seat, woo wee :yes:yes:yes don\'t remove it to quickly i could always make a meet for a ride
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking;868019passenger seat, woo wee :yes:yes:yes don\'t remove it to quickly i could always make a meet for a ride
I still intend on coming along to track days with it and will reinstall the passenger seat accordingly:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 04:18:41 PM
Post by: clive on November 23, 2013, 04:18:41 PM
To answer the suspension question,
Shocks are Tein Mono Flex but with different spring rates, plus Tein wish to be involved in the car and will be sending me one of their new Active Kits FOC for me to test and assess with feed back to them.
They have also offered to re-valve the shocks to my specs if I wish to change the damping characteristics for free.
I also have Racing Beat Roll bars with a lighter MK3 MX-5 rear bar should I wish to soften the rear, somthing I may well try in testing as it takes away oversteer.
Fitted brand new front lower arms to give me hopefully reliability riding those kerbs should I wish to, plus all the arms and link bars are rebushed with Urethane front and rear.
Then to round off the package, Racing Beat adjustable roll bar end links front and rear.
Shocks are Tein Mono Flex but with different spring rates, plus Tein wish to be involved in the car and will be sending me one of their new Active Kits FOC for me to test and assess with feed back to them.
They have also offered to re-valve the shocks to my specs if I wish to change the damping characteristics for free.
I also have Racing Beat Roll bars with a lighter MK3 MX-5 rear bar should I wish to soften the rear, somthing I may well try in testing as it takes away oversteer.
Fitted brand new front lower arms to give me hopefully reliability riding those kerbs should I wish to, plus all the arms and link bars are rebushed with Urethane front and rear.
Then to round off the package, Racing Beat adjustable roll bar end links front and rear.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
That active kit looks the nuts
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
IT\'S FINISHED :driving just needs Mapping and testing, which will start at Brands on the 9th unless some horrendous problem shows up :D
Over the last week I have finished off the exhaust system, plumbed the wastegate pipe back in which means I should actually get past the noise tests now.
Sorted out various normal wiring issues like the rear indicators not working, wiring up my FIA rain light plus a skid for the sump due to it sitting slightly below the crossmember children and animals being consumed by the dear little Tubo in a cartoonesque fashion :eek:.
Also I found yet again, you can\'t believe all that\'s written on the internet!
Sorted out various normal wiring issues like the rear indicators not working, wiring up my FIA rain light plus a skid for the sump due to it sitting slightly below the cross member and fitted a gauze for the Turbo inlet to stop children and small animals being sucked in by the dear little Turbo in a cartoonesque fashion :eek:.
Also I found yet again you can\'t believe all that\'s written on the internet!
The RX-8 fuel system is a return-less system with our system we now have a return dumping fuel back to the tank via a union in the top of the fuel pot.
This entailed removing the internal regulator which in theory helps to syphon fuel from the other saddle tank.
Aston was looking around and found that somebody reckoned they had connected the new return to the removed regulator inlet next to the fuel pump!
Sounded right in theory but not in practice as the fuel return just backed up on itself and caused a fuel leak !!!!!!!!!!!!
Now reverted back to just dumping the fuel straight back in the tank and all is well again.
I have had the car started several times over the last week and pleased to say that there are NO error codes appearing now at all:Party.
Another piece of news is that Tein have come through with the Active EDFC system for the car and sent it to me, which adds up to £500 worth of sponsorship.
I joked to Tein “ I hope they didn’t want 10 ft wide stickers” and instead they have just asked that I place these small stickers where they wished them to be (see below)
Looks like a staggering piece of kit with GPS and a G Force meter to calculate when and how to adjust the damping while on-track.
Interestingly they chose to back me rather than something in Time Attack or whatever due to the Nippon series being a “man in the street” formula that does not have 100K + cars competing.
Fingers crossed the mapping and systems checks go ok, then it’s off to Brands for initial testing
Over the last week I have finished off the exhaust system, plumbed the wastegate pipe back in which means I should actually get past the noise tests now.
Sorted out various normal wiring issues like the rear indicators not working, wiring up my FIA rain light plus a skid for the sump due to it sitting slightly below the crossmember children and animals being consumed by the dear little Tubo in a cartoonesque fashion :eek:.
Also I found yet again, you can\'t believe all that\'s written on the internet!
Sorted out various normal wiring issues like the rear indicators not working, wiring up my FIA rain light plus a skid for the sump due to it sitting slightly below the cross member and fitted a gauze for the Turbo inlet to stop children and small animals being sucked in by the dear little Turbo in a cartoonesque fashion :eek:.
Also I found yet again you can\'t believe all that\'s written on the internet!
The RX-8 fuel system is a return-less system with our system we now have a return dumping fuel back to the tank via a union in the top of the fuel pot.
This entailed removing the internal regulator which in theory helps to syphon fuel from the other saddle tank.
Aston was looking around and found that somebody reckoned they had connected the new return to the removed regulator inlet next to the fuel pump!
Sounded right in theory but not in practice as the fuel return just backed up on itself and caused a fuel leak !!!!!!!!!!!!
Now reverted back to just dumping the fuel straight back in the tank and all is well again.
I have had the car started several times over the last week and pleased to say that there are NO error codes appearing now at all:Party.
Another piece of news is that Tein have come through with the Active EDFC system for the car and sent it to me, which adds up to £500 worth of sponsorship.
I joked to Tein “ I hope they didn’t want 10 ft wide stickers” and instead they have just asked that I place these small stickers where they wished them to be (see below)
Looks like a staggering piece of kit with GPS and a G Force meter to calculate when and how to adjust the damping while on-track.
Interestingly they chose to back me rather than something in Time Attack or whatever due to the Nippon series being a “man in the street” formula that does not have 100K + cars competing.
Fingers crossed the mapping and systems checks go ok, then it’s off to Brands for initial testing
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 30, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 30, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
Great to hear Clive:):D
Will Jay be mapping the car off wastegate spring?(what psi spring do you have in there?) Or have you got an electronic boost controller?
Will Jay be mapping the car off wastegate spring?(what psi spring do you have in there?) Or have you got an electronic boost controller?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
Excellent news......still no vroom vroom vid though :2Rolleyeslol:mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
Soon Jon Soon, hopefully in a weeks time in-flight at Brands from someone
Using an electronic boost controller back through the 4 bar map sensor within the Adaptronic Grant
Using an electronic boost controller back through the 4 bar map sensor within the Adaptronic Grant
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Only pulling your leg!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 08:08:11 PM
Post by: clive on November 30, 2013, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: boosted;868487Only pulling your leg!
I know:chat,
Started it up down at the office yesterday and the car guys in the complex appeared from nowhere :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2013, 06:16:35 AM
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2013, 06:16:35 AM
Ya, its weird thing, if you start a loud car, people soon comes to see it. ;) Especially if car sounds unusual...
We NEED brapbrap videos ;)
We NEED brapbrap videos ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 04, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
Real pleased to say that after yesterdays huge effort from Powergains spending all day yesterday sorting out initial mapping and systems checks the RX-8 will make its debut at Brands on Monday.
I will have Jaydee and Kerim present to map the car on track and possibly Carl who supplied the engine
After we have run the engine in at 6000 we hope to raise the rev limit to get a feel what the car will be capable of once testing starts in earnest.
Anyone got a "running in please pass sticker" :mrgreen:
http://we.tl/KInHwNgcmI
I will have Jaydee and Kerim present to map the car on track and possibly Carl who supplied the engine
After we have run the engine in at 6000 we hope to raise the rev limit to get a feel what the car will be capable of once testing starts in earnest.
Anyone got a "running in please pass sticker" :mrgreen:
http://we.tl/KInHwNgcmI
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on December 04, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
Post by: kevint on December 04, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
That\'s great news Clive, hope there are no running in gremlins and you can quickly get up to race pace :burnout
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
Make sure you have plenty of fuel and premix with you as I can\'t see more than 6mpg with your heavy foot:):D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on December 04, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
Post by: Will66 on December 04, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
Flames and that slightly angry idle, this is going to be good.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 05, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 05, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
good news look forward to the update for next Monday
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
Okey, it braps and spitfire! :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Is it ready for tomorrow? Have you got to run the engine in?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Post by: Casey on December 08, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Wow, quite an angry sounding machine and it spits flames - very dragon like!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on December 08, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
Post by: Arnie_O on December 08, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing this tomorrow
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on December 08, 2013, 08:46:54 PM
Post by: Will66 on December 08, 2013, 08:46:54 PM
Very jealous of those at Brands tomorrow for many reasons, this amongst them!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 08, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
Post by: clive on December 08, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: boosted;869116Is it ready for tomorrow? Have you got to run the engine in?
Loaded up and ready to go, all is explained above Jon:Thumbs-up
Barring problems I expect to be droning round and round initially while we get some more miles on while mapping.
I will say that if it had not been Powergains dedication to the project helping iron out teething problems on Wednesday we would have lost all our track time tomorrow.
As I put it rather than being excited ATM I am real apprehensive because I do not know what else may jump out at me bearing in mind I have had many new build race cars in the past.
Hopefully by tomorrow night we will know if a, we have any "new" problems facing us, and b, if I have put together a package that will ultimately be competitive given testing time to start dialing the car in.
Bolted on a brand new set of Yokohama A048\'s Friday, a bit earlier than intended but then my old A048\'s had turned a bit concrete like and were just about worn out anyway --------- now we are getting serious ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on December 08, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Post by: shaunwil on December 08, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Enjoy the day, should still be fun not braking for the corners !
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on December 08, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on December 08, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
Been at the hotels bar-with some 8 owners to night all taking about this project waiting with baited breath hope all goes well tomorrow got all my bits crossed for Clive getting a good day out, and other drivers having a good day on track, smile please as you might get your photo taken
The :Viking news update
The :Viking news update
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
Good luck for today ...Fingers crossed all goes well!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: iaint on December 09, 2013, 09:23:39 AM
Post by: iaint on December 09, 2013, 09:23:39 AM
Hope it\'s all going well - good luck Clive et al!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 09, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 09, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
Dont let Jay drive your car, it will end up in the kitty litter lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
We got news on how it went today?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 06:38:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 06:38:49 PM
Waiting in anticipation......
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 07:34:58 PM
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2013, 07:34:58 PM
Tick Tock suspense is killing me......so hope its good news.....you gotta expect a few niggles though
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
Jaydees watching the thread. Come one spill the beans
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on December 09, 2013, 10:29:02 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on December 09, 2013, 10:29:02 PM
I know this is clive,s thread but i had a few picks of the track day of his car i do not think he would mind if i posted them here
he\'s got a very hot rod see photos but a the camera man today i nearly got burned buy his new anti theft devise
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad156/1519tank/clives%20track%20car/IMG_2819_zpsbbef0520.jpg)
click on the slide show below for more
http://s931.photobucket.com/user/1519tank/slideshow/clives%20track%20car
he\'s got a very hot rod see photos but a the camera man today i nearly got burned buy his new anti theft devise
(http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad156/1519tank/clives%20track%20car/IMG_2819_zpsbbef0520.jpg)
click on the slide show below for more
http://s931.photobucket.com/user/1519tank/slideshow/clives%20track%20car
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
Very nice shots. Flame photos look great.
I wonder how long that cat will last with all that heat??
I wonder how long that cat will last with all that heat??
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 10, 2013, 10:29:30 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 10, 2013, 10:29:30 AM
Nice pictures of flammage
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Laeeq on December 10, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
Post by: Laeeq on December 10, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
some good shots and good to see 8 being used hard on a track.:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on December 10, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
Post by: HaywardRotary on December 10, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;869294Very nice shots. Flame photos look great.
I wonder how long that cat will last with all that heat??
That\'s the colour that cats run at all the time Grant.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;869406That\'s the colour that cats run at all the time Grant.
Aaaaahhhh ok.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
Why is he running a cat?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: Martin Price;869408Why is he running a cat?race regualtion requirement i believe for the series hes running in
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on December 10, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
Post by: Will66 on December 10, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
Any car running in an MSA Championship that was built after 1999 has to have a catalytic converter fitted to compete.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:03:12 PM
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:03:12 PM
Oh, must be a new regulation for Nippon ,wondered if it would work its way down from TOCA to us.Pointless if you ask me.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: RotorHeid on December 10, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
Post by: RotorHeid on December 10, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
??? something wrong there, if the engine was out of 1995 car and install into 2003 car.
It should able to run non cat as per the blue book.
It should able to run non cat as per the blue book.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
I don\'t think the Nippon has championship status, I think that\'s why its called the Nippon Challenge rather than championship, maybe this is why when I\'ve raced with the Nippon I\'ve got away without one.
Or its new for next year. I\'ll have to check.
Or its new for next year. I\'ll have to check.
Title: Patience, young man patience !
Post by: clive on December 10, 2013, 10:23:52 PM
Post by: clive on December 10, 2013, 10:23:52 PM
Patience is the best way to describe our day out at Brands.
Yes as you know we expected a few problems but we also a problem that restricted the car to the use of literally only 1/2 and inch of throttle usage while we tried to get the fuel/ air mixture correct, driving with an egg under my foot would be a huge understatement.
First problem we had was that the water got hot but thanks to an old trick of mine no harm was done.
I have the overflow not plumbed to the ground but plumbed so the overflow squirts water up onto the passenger side of the screen, because if the car gets hot and dumps water you are not reliant on the next time you look at the gauge. This was a trick I was thankful of yesterday :).
Still puzzled that we ended up all, all meaning Kerim, Jaydee and myself performing a reroute of the water system even though as we ran the car for ten miles and then had the car ticking over for hours on Tuesday :eek:
As I said yesterday I always need to know "why" when something goes wrong so this is something I will revisit at another track day another time.
On top of that lost time we also lost "mapping" time when an eagle eyed marshal spotted Jaydee with the lap top and made us go away and take it out of the car for good (well for a while at least, sush!)
Please none on you read this and think the day was none productive as I always knew that yesterday was basically going to be a systems check day.
It was actually a great day and I went home happy with an enormous amount of information about the car and many questions answered and whilst I won\'t know its competitiveness until I get a chance to start pounding round with lap times to see.
I already know this car "feels right" out of the box and is already feeling like the car I wanted when I embarked on the path of showing that I could build the bulk of a race car in a lock up.
One of my biggest concerns has been answered already in that with the springs I have fitted plus the geometry alterations to gain as much rearward traction as possible,
I knew that "potentially" I was building understeer into the car, however the car seems very natural and importantly, easy to drive, and if a car feels easy to drive it tells me we are somewhere on the money with the handling, there was just a couple of hints at very slight understeer but this will not be a problem when I have power and can turn the back of the car on the throttle.
Please don’t read slide or drift into this because on a good car you can normally turn the car by just going onto the throttle a little early.
Thanks must go to Kerim and Jaydee for not only getting me there and being pit crew for the day but also to Carl for building an engine that can clearly cope with abuse.
Now thanks MUST go to not only the guys above but all you guys on this thread who have supported me along the way with not only with monies (thankyou) but also just showing an interest while I got the car from A to B thankyou.
Yes as you know we expected a few problems but we also a problem that restricted the car to the use of literally only 1/2 and inch of throttle usage while we tried to get the fuel/ air mixture correct, driving with an egg under my foot would be a huge understatement.
First problem we had was that the water got hot but thanks to an old trick of mine no harm was done.
I have the overflow not plumbed to the ground but plumbed so the overflow squirts water up onto the passenger side of the screen, because if the car gets hot and dumps water you are not reliant on the next time you look at the gauge. This was a trick I was thankful of yesterday :).
Still puzzled that we ended up all, all meaning Kerim, Jaydee and myself performing a reroute of the water system even though as we ran the car for ten miles and then had the car ticking over for hours on Tuesday :eek:
As I said yesterday I always need to know "why" when something goes wrong so this is something I will revisit at another track day another time.
On top of that lost time we also lost "mapping" time when an eagle eyed marshal spotted Jaydee with the lap top and made us go away and take it out of the car for good (well for a while at least, sush!)
Please none on you read this and think the day was none productive as I always knew that yesterday was basically going to be a systems check day.
It was actually a great day and I went home happy with an enormous amount of information about the car and many questions answered and whilst I won\'t know its competitiveness until I get a chance to start pounding round with lap times to see.
I already know this car "feels right" out of the box and is already feeling like the car I wanted when I embarked on the path of showing that I could build the bulk of a race car in a lock up.
One of my biggest concerns has been answered already in that with the springs I have fitted plus the geometry alterations to gain as much rearward traction as possible,
I knew that "potentially" I was building understeer into the car, however the car seems very natural and importantly, easy to drive, and if a car feels easy to drive it tells me we are somewhere on the money with the handling, there was just a couple of hints at very slight understeer but this will not be a problem when I have power and can turn the back of the car on the throttle.
Please don’t read slide or drift into this because on a good car you can normally turn the car by just going onto the throttle a little early.
Thanks must go to Kerim and Jaydee for not only getting me there and being pit crew for the day but also to Carl for building an engine that can clearly cope with abuse.
Now thanks MUST go to not only the guys above but all you guys on this thread who have supported me along the way with not only with monies (thankyou) but also just showing an interest while I got the car from A to B thankyou.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: RotorHeid on December 10, 2013, 10:24:38 PM
Post by: RotorHeid on December 10, 2013, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: Martin Price;869418I don\'t think the Nippon has championship status, I think that\'s why its called the Nippon Challenge rather than championship, maybe this is why when I\'ve raced with the Nippon I\'ve got away without one.
Or its new for next year. I\'ll have to check.
I see it\'s a non-MSA
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:37:50 PM
Post by: Martin Price on December 10, 2013, 10:37:50 PM
Just checked and it looks as though strictly speaking we should all run with a CAT but its never checked as there is no specification specified so some run with de-cats and some with nothing.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 10, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 10, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
First time out is always shakedown runs , good for ironing out tweeks, bet it still felt fast with just an inch and half of throttle!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 10:52:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2013, 10:52:47 PM
Carl has the skin of a rhino.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Is it a cat or is it flame arrestor?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Brett on December 11, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
Post by: Brett on December 11, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
Sounds like you\'ve made some serious progress, and we all know how each car has a personality and likes to test you once or twice before letting you have your way :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:39:13 AM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:39:13 AM
We have basically done a de-brief of the problems of the day and now have a new list of jobs.
Change the water system configuration back to where it was before brands to retest as we had no overheating problems with initial runs on last Tuesday.
Reroute the water bleed system to put feed in and out of the electronic throttle body.
Take the feed for the variable speed fuel pump system out of the equation
Fit the fuel swirl pot into the system which I designed with an integrated Bosch 044.
Fit the fuel Autometer fuel pressure gauge I ordered yesterday as we had no idea of fuel pressure readings on track.
Then we will look at testing after Christmas but we only need a strip of land that we think we have found to just run the car up and down for mapping then after that I would test on tracks that the Nippon Challenge use so I can get an idea of the competitiveness of the car.
Looked at proper testing days, but Brands is £420 to test along with other racers which puts the track days we do into perspective financially
Change the water system configuration back to where it was before brands to retest as we had no overheating problems with initial runs on last Tuesday.
Reroute the water bleed system to put feed in and out of the electronic throttle body.
Take the feed for the variable speed fuel pump system out of the equation
Fit the fuel swirl pot into the system which I designed with an integrated Bosch 044.
Fit the fuel Autometer fuel pressure gauge I ordered yesterday as we had no idea of fuel pressure readings on track.
Then we will look at testing after Christmas but we only need a strip of land that we think we have found to just run the car up and down for mapping then after that I would test on tracks that the Nippon Challenge use so I can get an idea of the competitiveness of the car.
Looked at proper testing days, but Brands is £420 to test along with other racers which puts the track days we do into perspective financially
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 09:25:38 AM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 09:25:38 AM
Hi Clive,
Any local airfield trackdays near you?....i use motorsports-events.com closest to you would be Hullavington....Chipenham just by Junction 17 of m4....Not that far from you.
Best bit £99.00 or £109 and saturdays as well! Can get a lot of miles under the belt as open pitlane.
worth a look.
Ed and Natasha who run them are great and Ed is a racer through and through. laptop may be an issue but if you asked and explained situation i\'m sure he would be accomodating. If you didnt ask and 1 of the marshalls caught you he would sling you off though! Runs a very tight ship which i think is great.
Any local airfield trackdays near you?....i use motorsports-events.com closest to you would be Hullavington....Chipenham just by Junction 17 of m4....Not that far from you.
Best bit £99.00 or £109 and saturdays as well! Can get a lot of miles under the belt as open pitlane.
worth a look.
Ed and Natasha who run them are great and Ed is a racer through and through. laptop may be an issue but if you asked and explained situation i\'m sure he would be accomodating. If you didnt ask and 1 of the marshalls caught you he would sling you off though! Runs a very tight ship which i think is great.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: HaywardRotary on December 12, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Post by: HaywardRotary on December 12, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Hey Jon, how does Ed get his ship so far inland?
O know that is why its so tight, so he gets through the narrow canals......
I\'ll get me hat..............:spank:Giggle:rolleyes:
O know that is why its so tight, so he gets through the narrow canals......
I\'ll get me hat..............:spank:Giggle:rolleyes:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 01:00:55 PM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 01:00:55 PM
Just found next years Nippon dates
Rockingham April 5/6
Castle Combe May 5
Donnington June 7 Nippon/French only
Brands Hatch June 15 MR2/Hyundai onyly
Snetterton 300 July 12/13
Silverstone August 9/10
Cadwell Park September 20
Oulton Park October 4
All race series will have two races same day.Where they are two day events Nippon and French trophy run on the first day MR2/Hyundai\'s on the second day
Rockingham April 5/6
Castle Combe May 5
Donnington June 7 Nippon/French only
Brands Hatch June 15 MR2/Hyundai onyly
Snetterton 300 July 12/13
Silverstone August 9/10
Cadwell Park September 20
Oulton Park October 4
All race series will have two races same day.Where they are two day events Nippon and French trophy run on the first day MR2/Hyundai\'s on the second day
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on December 12, 2013, 01:20:01 PM
Post by: Martin Price on December 12, 2013, 01:20:01 PM
Hi Clive, we\'re running the std tank with twin std pumps acting as lift pumps feeding our swirl pot but we did think piped correctly we\'d get away with just running the std pumps at each side of the tank T\'d into each other with one way valves just behind the T feeding the fuel rail with a return to the tank.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 04:02:26 PM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;869596Hey Jon, how does Ed get his ship so far inland?
O know that is why its so tight, so he gets through the narrow canals......
I\'ll get me hat..............:spank:Giggle:rolleyes:
Get your hat and coat with that !!!!
He races Formula Ford...so basically a canoe with wheels.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 04:05:42 PM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2013, 04:05:42 PM
:burnoutIll see you on the 5th at Combe then Clive! If the Putts are about then 3 rotarys at 1 meet!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: boosted;869633:burnoutIll see you on the 5th at Combe then Clive! If the Putts are about then 3 rotarys at 1 meet!
:Thumbsup!:Thumbsup!:Thumbsup!:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
Hi Martin,
I had a long chat with the Simon at Fuel parts today, as I rang to see if the Walbro Ski-Doo snowmobile one way in tank valves ever came back out for sale as I felt this would be the only way you could run a pump in each tank.
The reason is, I felt just as Simon does as well that you will run into fuel balance problems and risk running lean, however these Walbro in tank valves in their original spec were never make again and their modded version is no good for motorsport .
As he said to make this system of yours work safely you really need a 2" diameter pipe to balance safely, my reply was "not a problem if you can drill a 2" hole in the prop-shaft" :rollin
Seriously, he agreed with me that as the RX-8 runs quite a sophisticated syphon system to balance the tanks, and if you dont want to run the stock pump as a lift pump then run a direct replacement walbro with the swirl pot and one 044 with your return going back to the swirl pot to keep it feed.
This is the system I am now in the process of fitting anyway, in other words I am leaving the basic Mazda tank system alone that they developed and we know works very well.
Hope this helps.
I had a long chat with the Simon at Fuel parts today, as I rang to see if the Walbro Ski-Doo snowmobile one way in tank valves ever came back out for sale as I felt this would be the only way you could run a pump in each tank.
The reason is, I felt just as Simon does as well that you will run into fuel balance problems and risk running lean, however these Walbro in tank valves in their original spec were never make again and their modded version is no good for motorsport .
As he said to make this system of yours work safely you really need a 2" diameter pipe to balance safely, my reply was "not a problem if you can drill a 2" hole in the prop-shaft" :rollin
Seriously, he agreed with me that as the RX-8 runs quite a sophisticated syphon system to balance the tanks, and if you dont want to run the stock pump as a lift pump then run a direct replacement walbro with the swirl pot and one 044 with your return going back to the swirl pot to keep it feed.
This is the system I am now in the process of fitting anyway, in other words I am leaving the basic Mazda tank system alone that they developed and we know works very well.
Hope this helps.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: iaint on December 12, 2013, 11:10:01 PM
Post by: iaint on December 12, 2013, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: clive;869605Oulton Park October 4
My local - will be looking forwards to this!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2013, 11:12:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2013, 11:12:32 PM
Me too. A long way away though. May have to go to silver stone as that\'s not that far away
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 06:43:31 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 06:43:31 PM
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Ohh these should save some weight Clive!
Ohh these should save some weight Clive!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
doh...ebay item number
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on December 19, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
Post by: kevint on December 19, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
Here is a link (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161166266158?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D161166266158%26_rdc%3D1)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 19, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
Many thanks for the links guys but, one its a lot of money, next there is no weight mentioned, next my doors are now very light after a huge amount of attacking with a disc cutter leaving just the outer skins.
I would also have had a problem had I wanted to buy, parting with my hard earned cash toward the man who is selling them, but thank you anyway.
I would also have had a problem had I wanted to buy, parting with my hard earned cash toward the man who is selling them, but thank you anyway.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 09:08:35 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2013, 09:08:35 PM
Quite expensive! You dont need doors or a roof clive!.....just a coat! And a hot car to dive into after!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 19, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: clive;870148Many thanks for the links guys but, one its a lot of money, next there is no weight mentioned, next my doors are now very light after a huge amount of attacking with a disc cutter leaving just the outer skins.
I would also have had a problem had I wanted to buy, parting with my hard earned cash toward the man who is selling them, but thank you anyway.
Hahahaha rather burn your money than give it to him hey Clive;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 06:26:03 PM
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 06:26:03 PM
Next update ----as you will see below I have spent the weekend making up a revised fuel system :cool.
I have reverted back to a stock fuel pot assembly with a Walbro in place of the stock pump then powered up with a full 12volts powering both pumps via a swirl pot with the exterior assembly sitting on the small rubber mounts below.
I know the RX-8 fuel pump has a variable speed by different voltage but I was still staggered to find just 4.8 volts, whilst this is not a problem for even a modded RX-8 this was obviously what was causing many issues at Brands.
Next up from what I found at Brands was those small F1 style door mirrors that needed adjusting every time I set out of the pits.
As you will see, now on stock mirrors.
Lastly I thought I would share how to cut your braided hose easily without special tools.
Even with a thin cutting disc you can still have it frey and you risk metal dust going up the inside.
By using insulating tape bound tight then tin snips, lay them on the ground and hit with a good size hammer and you will have a clean cut in one hit and braided that\'s not a mess on the ends;)
I have reverted back to a stock fuel pot assembly with a Walbro in place of the stock pump then powered up with a full 12volts powering both pumps via a swirl pot with the exterior assembly sitting on the small rubber mounts below.
I know the RX-8 fuel pump has a variable speed by different voltage but I was still staggered to find just 4.8 volts, whilst this is not a problem for even a modded RX-8 this was obviously what was causing many issues at Brands.
Next up from what I found at Brands was those small F1 style door mirrors that needed adjusting every time I set out of the pits.
As you will see, now on stock mirrors.
Lastly I thought I would share how to cut your braided hose easily without special tools.
Even with a thin cutting disc you can still have it frey and you risk metal dust going up the inside.
By using insulating tape bound tight then tin snips, lay them on the ground and hit with a good size hammer and you will have a clean cut in one hit and braided that\'s not a mess on the ends;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on January 05, 2014, 07:09:28 PM
Post by: Martin Price on January 05, 2014, 07:09:28 PM
Your fuel system is very similar to ours now, our whole set-up even sits on identical rubber bobbins to the ones your using.
How are you planning on boxing it all in Clive?
How are you planning on boxing it all in Clive?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 07:32:47 PM
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 07:32:47 PM
Hi Martin,
Funnily enough I was just coming back on to say that I still need to box it in yet :Giggle
I am literally just going to use the tunnel and the boot floor to come off of to box just that one area in,
Even if regulations didn\'t deem it just as all my previous race cars I would shield the fuel from me anyway, scares the life out of me when I see FD\'S with a whole fuel system in the back with no firewall and all that fuel pressure going on !:Hammer .
p.s. if you can\'t see , there is a 12mm link pipe under the swirl pot feeding the pump.
Funnily enough I was just coming back on to say that I still need to box it in yet :Giggle
I am literally just going to use the tunnel and the boot floor to come off of to box just that one area in,
Even if regulations didn\'t deem it just as all my previous race cars I would shield the fuel from me anyway, scares the life out of me when I see FD\'S with a whole fuel system in the back with no firewall and all that fuel pressure going on !:Hammer .
p.s. if you can\'t see , there is a 12mm link pipe under the swirl pot feeding the pump.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on January 05, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
Post by: Martin Price on January 05, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
Looks good Clive, as you\'ve already said the standard pump is a real complicated affair, we ran a spare one of ours up in a pot of water over xmas to see how shallow it would pump, after some head scratching we opted for bypassing the pump regulator and filter, cutting vee\'s round the bottom of the pump housing to let fuel in and piping the pump straight out the top of the pump housing
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
Post by: clive on January 05, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
Martin,
If you use this type of system you may well find you have to address the problems I uncovered along with Aston\'s research, in that the stock pot assembly maintains the syphon effect drawing fuel across from the other tank.
One guy reckoned he had a pump in the other tank instead but this must be rubbish because there would be no way of balancing the tanks, i.e. you would just pump one tank into the other.
This is another reason for taking a step back, reverting to the stock pot because the other assembly like yours had the stock regulator removed and its this part of the pot that operates the syphon.
I just blocked off the regulator feed on the balance pipe which I now know was wrong and pre Brands was working on ways of modifying the pot to draw fuel in from the other tank, something I now don\'t need to address.
Obviously the stock RX-8 regulator needs removing or it will fight an external regulator, unless of course you only use the stock pot assembly lift to lift fuel to a swirl pot only, hence my backward step.
hope this helps
If you use this type of system you may well find you have to address the problems I uncovered along with Aston\'s research, in that the stock pot assembly maintains the syphon effect drawing fuel across from the other tank.
One guy reckoned he had a pump in the other tank instead but this must be rubbish because there would be no way of balancing the tanks, i.e. you would just pump one tank into the other.
This is another reason for taking a step back, reverting to the stock pot because the other assembly like yours had the stock regulator removed and its this part of the pot that operates the syphon.
I just blocked off the regulator feed on the balance pipe which I now know was wrong and pre Brands was working on ways of modifying the pot to draw fuel in from the other tank, something I now don\'t need to address.
Obviously the stock RX-8 regulator needs removing or it will fight an external regulator, unless of course you only use the stock pot assembly lift to lift fuel to a swirl pot only, hence my backward step.
hope this helps
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on January 06, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
Post by: Martin Price on January 06, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
Hi Clive, I probably should have explained exactly what we’re doing instead of giving you half the info.
Our system comprises of twin pumps in each side of the tank modified as I’ve previously described so they just pump out into our swirl pot, then a return/overflow out the top of the pot back into the top of the tank via a fitting in the top of one of our fuel pump housings. Then from the swirl pot we go through the filter into our 044 then straight to the fuel rail via the inside of the car, then through the reg back to the swirl pot.
Other than the twin pumps (which we can switch individually if necessary) as far as we’re concerned this is a pretty conventional race car fuel system set-up.
We’ve just been looking at your pictures again and we’ve noticed that we can’t see a return from your pot to your tank. If you’ve removed the regulator from the in tank pump I’d be very concerned about the return from your fuel rail pressuring up, confusing the external regulator and causing all sorts of problems. You really don’t want any pressure in your fuel pot.
Cheers Martin
Our system comprises of twin pumps in each side of the tank modified as I’ve previously described so they just pump out into our swirl pot, then a return/overflow out the top of the pot back into the top of the tank via a fitting in the top of one of our fuel pump housings. Then from the swirl pot we go through the filter into our 044 then straight to the fuel rail via the inside of the car, then through the reg back to the swirl pot.
Other than the twin pumps (which we can switch individually if necessary) as far as we’re concerned this is a pretty conventional race car fuel system set-up.
We’ve just been looking at your pictures again and we’ve noticed that we can’t see a return from your pot to your tank. If you’ve removed the regulator from the in tank pump I’d be very concerned about the return from your fuel rail pressuring up, confusing the external regulator and causing all sorts of problems. You really don’t want any pressure in your fuel pot.
Cheers Martin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 08:48:39 AM
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 08:48:39 AM
Hi Martin,
We still have the stock set up in the tank with regulator, just using the pump as a lift pump so that pump will regulate at a lower pressure than the main system.
As with many cars before I am using a 1.1 regulator with the return back to the swirl pot which is the middle pipe in the picture to ensure the swirl pot has extra fuel.
If we have problems during the next test we can quickly revert back to the system we had where we were dumping fuel straight back into the top of the stock fuel pot.
We still have the stock set up in the tank with regulator, just using the pump as a lift pump so that pump will regulate at a lower pressure than the main system.
As with many cars before I am using a 1.1 regulator with the return back to the swirl pot which is the middle pipe in the picture to ensure the swirl pot has extra fuel.
If we have problems during the next test we can quickly revert back to the system we had where we were dumping fuel straight back into the top of the stock fuel pot.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on January 06, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
Post by: Martin Price on January 06, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: clive;870913Hi Martin,
We still have the stock set up in the tank with regulator, just using the pump as a lift pump so that pump will regulate at a lower pressure than the main system.
As with many cars before I am using a 1.1 regulator with the return back to the swirl pot which is the middle pipe in the picture to ensure the swirl pot has extra fuel.
If we have problems during the next test we can quickly revert back to the system we had where we were dumping fuel straight back into the top of the stock fuel pot.
Ah I see, we didn\'t consider connecting our system up like that, I just assumed the pressure on the other side of the reg would upset it. Our system might be a bit over complicated with hindsight, we were saying today that we could have probably got away with not running the 044 and swirl pot with us running twin pumps.
Cheers Martin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 06, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 06, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
I\'m still a little confused:??? Surely you need a return from the swirl pot so when the pot is full it will fall back into the tank? Obviously during a race not much fuel will be returning too the engine but waiting around the pumps will fill up the system and when the swirl pot is full where will the fuel go too?
My fuel return line goes Into the swirl pot but I also have a return from the pot to the tank. An overflow if you like.
Have you thought of a fuel cooler Clive? Cooler consistent temp fuel is always better:D
My fuel return line goes Into the swirl pot but I also have a return from the pot to the tank. An overflow if you like.
Have you thought of a fuel cooler Clive? Cooler consistent temp fuel is always better:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 07:46:33 PM
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 07:46:33 PM
I like simple, (stop laughing at the back):Giggle
Seriously, had I realised the voltage was our problem I would not have fitted the swirl pot and Bosch because we know from years of playing with FD\'s that just the better Walbro in tank should have been sufficient for our power demands.
I initially went for just the in-tank set up because it was simple and I like simple on Race cars as simple and uncomplicated tends to be more reliable, hence our initial set up.
Like I said, in a way its a step back to go forward and at least we are now back to simple inside the tank that I was still not convinced was not going to bite us the more we tested.
There\'s a huge amount of info on FD power but as you will have seen, there\'s very little on integrating the FD with the FE.
Seriously, had I realised the voltage was our problem I would not have fitted the swirl pot and Bosch because we know from years of playing with FD\'s that just the better Walbro in tank should have been sufficient for our power demands.
I initially went for just the in-tank set up because it was simple and I like simple on Race cars as simple and uncomplicated tends to be more reliable, hence our initial set up.
Like I said, in a way its a step back to go forward and at least we are now back to simple inside the tank that I was still not convinced was not going to bite us the more we tested.
There\'s a huge amount of info on FD power but as you will have seen, there\'s very little on integrating the FD with the FE.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
Hi Grant,
This may work fine on a bigger swirl pot but I am also relying on a certain amount of pressure in the pot and should I vent this it would potentially loose fuel from what is dumping back into the tank from the vent.
Dont forget my pot looks odd as I designed it to have the main feed out of the bottom, so normally you would see three pipes out the top.
The other route is to have an in and an out and pipe the return directly into the tank but that way we loose all that extra fuel that will ensure the swirl pot always has a full partially pressurised feed, that will not be as much as the main pressure feed from the Bosch down to the injectors.
I believe we should never need a cooler with the BHP we are going to use.
Hope this makes sense
This may work fine on a bigger swirl pot but I am also relying on a certain amount of pressure in the pot and should I vent this it would potentially loose fuel from what is dumping back into the tank from the vent.
Dont forget my pot looks odd as I designed it to have the main feed out of the bottom, so normally you would see three pipes out the top.
The other route is to have an in and an out and pipe the return directly into the tank but that way we loose all that extra fuel that will ensure the swirl pot always has a full partially pressurised feed, that will not be as much as the main pressure feed from the Bosch down to the injectors.
I believe we should never need a cooler with the BHP we are going to use.
Hope this makes sense
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 06, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 06, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
Ah I get it now, so in theory the slight pressure inside the fuel pot should help push fuel around again.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
Post by: clive on January 06, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;870992Ah I get it now, so in theory the slight pressure inside the fuel pot should help push fuel around again.
Yes that\'s it :chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 21, 2014, 02:18:32 PM
Post by: clive on January 21, 2014, 02:18:32 PM
Today we have mostly been destroying trailers :Thumbsup!
Sort of relevant as its all connected with going back racing.
As some of you know getting the race car on and off the trailer was a performance mostly because it was a little too narrow plus I went over a speed bump a little fast and bent the poor thing :3Confused
However I still want it so it fits in the garage :rolleyes:
Solution, cut it up, drive a tractor over the bed and re-engineer the thing to build a slightly wider, stronger trailer :burnout
Sort of relevant as its all connected with going back racing.
As some of you know getting the race car on and off the trailer was a performance mostly because it was a little too narrow plus I went over a speed bump a little fast and bent the poor thing :3Confused
However I still want it so it fits in the garage :rolleyes:
Solution, cut it up, drive a tractor over the bed and re-engineer the thing to build a slightly wider, stronger trailer :burnout
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 21, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 21, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
Well Clive it certainly look like a snug fit!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
Do you have to take the wheels off to get it in said garage?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 21, 2014, 02:58:09 PM
Post by: clive on January 21, 2014, 02:58:09 PM
Quote from: boosted;872204Do you have to take the wheels off to get it in said garage?
Yes it rolls in on its hubs so I can fiddle it past the entrance
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: clive;872205Yes it rolls in on its hubs so I can fiddle it past the entrance
Should not pinched in a hurry! :Giggle
As mine is covered with a few broken rear opening clips and parked at the side of the house....it has become somewhat of a local wildlife haven! Have not actually found an animal in there but there is a smell and evidence in there!:eek:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on January 21, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on January 21, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
don\'t forget to weld on the winch clive it will save your bad back :rollin:rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 22, 2014, 08:31:24 AM
Post by: clive on January 22, 2014, 08:31:24 AM
Quote from: exiled-viking;872252don\'t forget to weld on the winch clive it will save your bad back :rollin:rollin
Don\'t worry we have extended the A frame for a new whizzy winch :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 04, 2014, 06:21:15 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2014, 06:21:15 PM
Quick update, we now have a trailer that is suitably strengthened (shown upside down) that is now also wider so the car fits easily!
Also tows better with the A frame extended and a bit cut off the back to compensate :D
Made a box to seal off the pumps etc from me that should keep the scrutineers happy and finally finished tidying the engine bay how I want it.
Fuel pressure gauge all installed plus big red oil light, plus tidied a few things up in the engine bay to get it what I now call finished.
Two weeks to Snetterton :Thumbsup!
Also tows better with the A frame extended and a bit cut off the back to compensate :D
Made a box to seal off the pumps etc from me that should keep the scrutineers happy and finally finished tidying the engine bay how I want it.
Fuel pressure gauge all installed plus big red oil light, plus tidied a few things up in the engine bay to get it what I now call finished.
Two weeks to Snetterton :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mr Froggy on February 04, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Post by: Mr Froggy on February 04, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Looking realy nice glad it\'s all getting sorted now.
And that trailer looks a lot safer now.
And that trailer looks a lot safer now.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 04, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Froggy;873263Looking realy nice glad it\'s all getting sorted now.
And that trailer looks a lot safer now.
Thanks Wayne, trailers just as you recommended and not saggy any more :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on February 04, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Post by: C J R on February 04, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Well done Clive, looking forward to seeing and watching this at Snetterton. :burnout
Chris
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 04, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: C J R;873269Well done Clive, looking forward to seeing and watching this at Snetterton. :burnout Chris
Me too Clive, looking forward to seeing and watching this pass me at Snetterton. :WaveBye
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on February 04, 2014, 10:44:49 PM
Post by: shaunwil on February 04, 2014, 10:44:49 PM
Can\'t wait to see you running round the track this year, should be awesome :D
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2014, 10:59:01 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2014, 10:59:01 PM
Epic! Well done added zoom zoom!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2014, 11:34:47 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2014, 11:34:47 PM
quick q...have you still got the oil light lit on the cluster? If you short the level switch out this light will go out.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on February 05, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
Post by: Martin Price on February 05, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
Fuel box looks neat Clive.
Sold the Scoob last weekend so I wont be doing any Nippon this year unfortunately .
Sold the Scoob last weekend so I wont be doing any Nippon this year unfortunately .
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2014, 07:44:39 PM
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2014, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: Martin Price;873345Fuel box looks neat Clive.
Sold the Scoob last weekend so I wont be doing any Nippon this year unfortunately .
That\'s a real shame...I saw you in action at castle combe and you flew and i was quietly thinking to myself you and Clive would be door handle to door handle!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 05, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Casey on February 05, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Looking good for a faster session at Snetterton than at Brands Hatch then ;):D
As Ray said, I look forward to seeing (and hearing) you zoom-zoom past at Snett :Thumbs-up
As Ray said, I look forward to seeing (and hearing) you zoom-zoom past at Snett :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 05, 2014, 08:36:43 PM
Post by: clive on February 05, 2014, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: boosted;873283quick q...have you still got the oil light lit on the cluster? If you short the level switch out this light will go out.
Must have a go at this, just got to find the relevant wire;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 06, 2014, 08:01:49 AM
Post by: clive on February 06, 2014, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Martin Price;873345Fuel box looks neat Clive.
Sold the Scoob last weekend so I wont be doing any Nippon this year unfortunately .
Thanks Martin, I will be surprised if the new owner can drive the scoob with the same amount of vigor .
With the amazing level of build with the RX-8 what championship are you aiming at , GT ?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on February 06, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Post by: Martin Price on February 06, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
Quote from: clive;873361Thanks Martin, I will be surprised if the new owner can drive the scoob with the same amount of vigor .
With the amazing level of build with the RX-8 what championship are you aiming at , GT ?
Would love to do GT Clive but could not afford afford entries or tyre bill!
I\'m planning on Classic Thunder or perhaps Eurosaloons if they sort their act out.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 07, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
Post by: clive on February 07, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
Took another step in the big jigsaw of going back Racing today.
After never having ever needed to take a "test" to go racing I passed the two part ARDS test which means I can now fill in my entrance forms to go Racing with the RX-8.
I know some of you here have done this but I will say I had a whale of a time with the guys at Brands where after passing the written test, the ARDS driving examiner sort of threw the book out the window for me during the driving part of the test:chat.
I had an instructor in one Will Arif, a driver I already had a huge amount of respect for who is still an active racer after some 700 wins!
After going bananas at me on the first lap out for going way too fast for his liking, he settled down after another couple of laps realising I could actually feel what was going on and that that was just the way I drive, rather than trying to impress !!!!!!
Although you should have a debrief and then be told how you got on and if you passed or failed, he rapidly told me forget the test "I had passed" , "now lets clean up some of your bad habits and make you quicker after I explained nobody had ever shown me how to drive :rollin
And he did-------------he showed me "his" Brands line, bearing in mind this is an ex Formula Ford Festival winner at Brands, one of the hardest event to win in Motor Racing, he showed me what I found the other guys call "Wills line" out of Druids and a much softer line around Paddock both of which keeps the front wheels straighter than I normally would which equates to faster, faster :D.
All in all I had a huge amount of fun and learnt a few tips on going quicker to the extent that I have asked Will to come along to one of the test sessions before finally racing the RX-8 to "help", indeed he may be at Snetterton next week with us.
Bottom line is, today was a huge step to getting the RX-8 out there Racing :Viking
After never having ever needed to take a "test" to go racing I passed the two part ARDS test which means I can now fill in my entrance forms to go Racing with the RX-8.
I know some of you here have done this but I will say I had a whale of a time with the guys at Brands where after passing the written test, the ARDS driving examiner sort of threw the book out the window for me during the driving part of the test:chat.
I had an instructor in one Will Arif, a driver I already had a huge amount of respect for who is still an active racer after some 700 wins!
After going bananas at me on the first lap out for going way too fast for his liking, he settled down after another couple of laps realising I could actually feel what was going on and that that was just the way I drive, rather than trying to impress !!!!!!
Although you should have a debrief and then be told how you got on and if you passed or failed, he rapidly told me forget the test "I had passed" , "now lets clean up some of your bad habits and make you quicker after I explained nobody had ever shown me how to drive :rollin
And he did-------------he showed me "his" Brands line, bearing in mind this is an ex Formula Ford Festival winner at Brands, one of the hardest event to win in Motor Racing, he showed me what I found the other guys call "Wills line" out of Druids and a much softer line around Paddock both of which keeps the front wheels straighter than I normally would which equates to faster, faster :D.
All in all I had a huge amount of fun and learnt a few tips on going quicker to the extent that I have asked Will to come along to one of the test sessions before finally racing the RX-8 to "help", indeed he may be at Snetterton next week with us.
Bottom line is, today was a huge step to getting the RX-8 out there Racing :Viking
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 07, 2014, 08:32:02 PM
Post by: Casey on February 07, 2014, 08:32:02 PM
Fantastic Clive, sounds like you had a really great time there :)
I\'m thinking of doing the ARDS test later this year, just to say I\'ve done it (and hopefully pass :(). Just "something interesting to do", nothing more serious than that. Sounds like I should do it at Brands if its that much fun!
I\'m thinking of doing the ARDS test later this year, just to say I\'ve done it (and hopefully pass :(). Just "something interesting to do", nothing more serious than that. Sounds like I should do it at Brands if its that much fun!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 07, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
Post by: clive on February 07, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Casey;873447I\'m thinking of doing the ARDS test later this year, just to say I\'ve done it (and hopefully pass :(). Just "something interesting to do", nothing more serious than that. Sounds like I should do it at Brands if its that much fun!
Go for it :driving
I will say though, I was real lucky to get the guys that I did on the day
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: d6277n on February 07, 2014, 10:20:50 PM
Post by: d6277n on February 07, 2014, 10:20:50 PM
Sounds like you had a good time :chat:driving
Chris
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on February 07, 2014, 11:19:52 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on February 07, 2014, 11:19:52 PM
well done clive nice to see the project is going in the right direction, and you know when you start i will do part of your pit crew :Giggle:Giggle: for a guinness
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
Well done! Got to remember them flags!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on February 08, 2014, 04:49:06 AM
Post by: re japi on February 08, 2014, 04:49:06 AM
Good job :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 08, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
Post by: clive on February 08, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
Quote from: boosted;873467Well done! Got to remember them flags!
Thanks Guys,
Yes Jon, flags were my biggest worry with the test paper as the damn things now contradict themselves HUGELY!
When you read there are differences in their use from the Blue book to the latest ARDS book and the video, massively confusing if your going to be tested.
I actually left the latest ARDS book with the guys at Brands as they had never seen these latest "amendments"
Biggest change surrounded both the black & white and the black "naughty boy" flags as they now say, if shown you must come back into the pits that lap,
i.e. both flags now tell you to do the same thing whereas before the black & white was a warning of your behaviour.( "naughty boy flag")
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: lennycarloff on February 08, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on February 08, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
Well done Clive, although it sounds like you had more fun than stress
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
Yours finished has given me added boosted! ( although in reality will never be truly finished)!!!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on February 08, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 08, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Never doubted your ability to pass the ARDS Clive, but well done all the same.
I\'m not sure they would look my driving style in quite the same way, :spank so have always bottled out on doing it, even though just like Malcolm I was considering doing it just for the hell of it.
I\'m not sure they would look my driving style in quite the same way, :spank so have always bottled out on doing it, even though just like Malcolm I was considering doing it just for the hell of it.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 08, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
Post by: clive on February 08, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
Thanks Jim&Ray.
Ray, go for it, I\'m sure you would be fine as I\'m sure Malcolm will be as well
And Jon yes your right, never finished.
We had a private test session today with the car and between Jaydee and Kerim they ironed out the problems that were stopping the car being able to be mapped properly and finally I have heard the car running on full chat :Thumbs-up.
Chris (CJR) had his mapped cleaned up at the same time and took some video however the car ran on full song after he had to leave.(hopefully Chris will post some of the video )
I have to say that Jaydee has shown super human patience with the mapping problems we have had, and this is all down to the fact that NOBODY has ever integrated the RX-8 electronics system with an REW engine properly on the planet and even I was starting to wonder if fundamentally this was never going to work 100%
But right the way back to physically building a map to even start the car and many hours thereafter he has cracked it and he\'s the only man to date who has via the electronically controlled RX-8 throttle :chat
All this means after a tiny bit more work we should the car running and starting to see what kind of pace the car may be able achieve at Snetterton with further chassis development.
Ray, go for it, I\'m sure you would be fine as I\'m sure Malcolm will be as well
And Jon yes your right, never finished.
We had a private test session today with the car and between Jaydee and Kerim they ironed out the problems that were stopping the car being able to be mapped properly and finally I have heard the car running on full chat :Thumbs-up.
Chris (CJR) had his mapped cleaned up at the same time and took some video however the car ran on full song after he had to leave.(hopefully Chris will post some of the video )
I have to say that Jaydee has shown super human patience with the mapping problems we have had, and this is all down to the fact that NOBODY has ever integrated the RX-8 electronics system with an REW engine properly on the planet and even I was starting to wonder if fundamentally this was never going to work 100%
But right the way back to physically building a map to even start the car and many hours thereafter he has cracked it and he\'s the only man to date who has via the electronically controlled RX-8 throttle :chat
All this means after a tiny bit more work we should the car running and starting to see what kind of pace the car may be able achieve at Snetterton with further chassis development.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
Post by: Casey on February 09, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
Fantastic news Clive, all the many hours of hard work by many people is finally coming together :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Good stuff Clive, have told my dad about your cars progress and that you will be racing at oulton park, he said he will be coming over with me when you race there.:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on February 09, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on February 09, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
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It looks as this project might give your group some cash return:yes as you have cracked a lot of unanswered questions and found what some people giving out advise had not even accomplished anything and never even lifted a spanner.
Its one thing to read it out of a book and another to get it to work its what a lot of enthusiast,s would love to do, your full conversion and integration of 7s into 8 might be more sort after, I think your on too something lads well done its been good to see the car in the flesh and to see how this has progressed over the last year or so.
Now to see car and the boys compete will be great.
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It looks as this project might give your group some cash return:yes as you have cracked a lot of unanswered questions and found what some people giving out advise had not even accomplished anything and never even lifted a spanner.
Its one thing to read it out of a book and another to get it to work its what a lot of enthusiast,s would love to do, your full conversion and integration of 7s into 8 might be more sort after, I think your on too something lads well done its been good to see the car in the flesh and to see how this has progressed over the last year or so.
Now to see car and the boys compete will be great.
.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on February 09, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on February 09, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
When is the Oulton round?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 01:48:44 PM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 01:48:44 PM
I hope to get up to Oulton on a track day as we have done other years to see how the car performs first
Adrian, its on October the 4th and the last round :cool
Adrian, its on October the 4th and the last round :cool
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
Excellent way of describing all those internet technicians Tony :rollin:rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
have you weighed it Clive? Wonder what weight it is now....and will it be faster than mine?:p:p:mmmm:mmmm:mmmm:eek::eek::eek::Giggle:Giggle:Giggle:3gears-rh:3gears-rh:3gears-rh:3gears-rh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
No Jon not yet, out of curiosity I will ask the scrutineers to weigh it at its first presentation
No Jon, page 76 says your car will be much faster, power to weight and all that :Giggle------- see I\'ve already dug out my old racing drivers book of excuses ;)
No Jon, page 76 says your car will be much faster, power to weight and all that :Giggle------- see I\'ve already dug out my old racing drivers book of excuses ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
I reckon we should have a poll! Problem is mine not finished and you can turn up the boost!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
My car will be faster than both so therefore I win!!
In a straight line anyway.
In a straight line anyway.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
What ever happens our 1.3s are gonna scalp some pistons reminds me of when i had them btcc civics last japfest in my FD.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
OK Grant we will give you that one:Viking
Jon, you need to get Boosted:Giggle
Jon, you need to get Boosted:Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: clive;873551OK Grant we will give you that one:Vikingagree totally! just a small tub on that skateboard would be redonkulous
Jon, you need to get Boosted:Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
Maybe next year....lets see what shapes up this year.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2014, 06:02:34 AM
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2014, 06:02:34 AM
Good news Clive :)
But where are those vids??? :xconfused
But where are those vids??? :xconfused
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 12:54:19 PM
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: re japi;873565Good news Clive :)
But where are those vids??? :xconfused
On my phone at the moment....need a more intellegent person to put them on here !!
I\'ll have a go tonight :Typing
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
I was worried that you are sharing any vids :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 08:31:48 PM
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 08:31:48 PM
Well here we are, two short vids of Clive\'s race car mapping on Saturday. Weather was poor and the strip of tarmac full of holes, but it was enough for the guys from Powergains (Kerim & Jaydee) to make progress with the mapping.
Sorry for the poor quality and sound;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO1osSqNMCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3sVm7YYnE
Chris
Sorry for the poor quality and sound;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO1osSqNMCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y3sVm7YYnE
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on February 10, 2014, 08:37:07 PM
Post by: Will66 on February 10, 2014, 08:37:07 PM
Not too noisy at all.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 10, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
Post by: Casey on February 10, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
Sounds really good and, as Will said, not noisy at all :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on February 10, 2014, 08:52:27 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 10, 2014, 08:52:27 PM
But I like noisy. :D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
Post by: C J R on February 10, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
Another vid, with added flames !!! on tick over :flamed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM3xb2vW17A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM3xb2vW17A
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 10, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 10, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
That clutch and flywheel combo makes it rev!!!! And it now braps:):evillaugh:D
Can\'t wait to see it racing.
Are you getting a go pro for race days?
Tip for CJR, if it\'s windy when taking a video cup your hand over the microphone area, it will cut the wind noise out but record the important bits in :)
Can\'t wait to see it racing.
Are you getting a go pro for race days?
Tip for CJR, if it\'s windy when taking a video cup your hand over the microphone area, it will cut the wind noise out but record the important bits in :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 04:00:48 AM
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 04:00:48 AM
Yes it braps!!! Sorry I doubted you Carl ;)
Holy crap, I dont know if that exhaust will live long if she runs so hot all the time ;)
She is Spitfire!
Btw, when is dyno day?
Holy crap, I dont know if that exhaust will live long if she runs so hot all the time ;)
She is Spitfire!
Btw, when is dyno day?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: mexx on February 11, 2014, 05:17:55 AM
Post by: mexx on February 11, 2014, 05:17:55 AM
nice work exhaust looks very hot indeed so it works :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on February 11, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
Post by: C J R on February 11, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
It\'s the Cat you can see glowing in the end of the exhaust. Normally we don\'t see them \'cos they are tucked up inside the exhaust under the car.
It will deter anyone thinking of undertaking Clive on track....if he was going slow enough to give them the option ! :god
It was weired to see flames coming from the exhaust on tick over !!! :Nono!
Chris
It will deter anyone thinking of undertaking Clive on track....if he was going slow enough to give them the option ! :god
It was weired to see flames coming from the exhaust on tick over !!! :Nono!
Chris
Title: Thankyou
Post by: clive on February 14, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
Post by: clive on February 14, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
Last weekend threw up yet another "development" problem but thanks to all your help with sponsorship monies the blow has been softened THANKYOU :god
We were keeping the monies aside for the on-board fire extinguisher I will need to go racing , but instead we have pointed the monies toward this latest hick-up that popped up!.
With space being such a problem in the RX-8 engine bay due to the chassis legs and subframe, I had a small 50 AMP race Altonator tucked down the side of the engine with literally 2 or 3mm to spare.
Unfortunately last weekend Jaydee could see through the laptop while mapping that this little Altonator was simply not man enough voltage / amperage wise.
Ater lots of internet searching I found that Brise motorsports electrical dept was potentially the only company that could have any chance of helping or it would mean the whole project would be set back by weeks while I re-engineered the whole engine bay to accommodate a stock monster Altonator !!
Brise have come to the rescue with a custom Altonator that as you can see from the test sheet has taken this tiny Alternator to a huge over 100 Amp output------------ to more than double its out put inside the same small Altonator is really impressive.
As they say power costs money, and with vat and the initial cost of the Altonator this powerful custom unit has cost around £600 :eek:
However as said above with the help from the good people here on MRC this blow has been softened considerably, thank you.
We were keeping the monies aside for the on-board fire extinguisher I will need to go racing , but instead we have pointed the monies toward this latest hick-up that popped up!.
With space being such a problem in the RX-8 engine bay due to the chassis legs and subframe, I had a small 50 AMP race Altonator tucked down the side of the engine with literally 2 or 3mm to spare.
Unfortunately last weekend Jaydee could see through the laptop while mapping that this little Altonator was simply not man enough voltage / amperage wise.
Ater lots of internet searching I found that Brise motorsports electrical dept was potentially the only company that could have any chance of helping or it would mean the whole project would be set back by weeks while I re-engineered the whole engine bay to accommodate a stock monster Altonator !!
Brise have come to the rescue with a custom Altonator that as you can see from the test sheet has taken this tiny Alternator to a huge over 100 Amp output------------ to more than double its out put inside the same small Altonator is really impressive.
As they say power costs money, and with vat and the initial cost of the Altonator this powerful custom unit has cost around £600 :eek:
However as said above with the help from the good people here on MRC this blow has been softened considerably, thank you.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on February 14, 2014, 12:02:26 PM
Post by: Casey on February 14, 2014, 12:02:26 PM
Another development "snag" hopefully sorted, good progress Clive!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: mexx on February 17, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
Post by: mexx on February 17, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
That is impressive small but with big figures keep it up Clive
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 25, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
Post by: boosted on February 25, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
Clive, Any updates from Snetterton? hopefully good!:cool
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 25, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
Post by: clive on February 25, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
Quote from: boosted;874540Clive, Any updates from Snetterton? hopefully good!:cool
Still going forward Jon but still not quite there yet.
Yes its being a painful, but when you see the problems that the Red Bull F1 team is having, it just shows the guys around me are doing an exceptional job getting this unique project to still keep going forward :Thumbsup!
Thing is, once all its problems have been cracked on my car Powergains will have the knowledge to replicate all this into other FD engined RX-8\'s if they wish to as they will have experience nobody else will have of how to integrate the engine and chassis together, properly .
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on February 25, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
Post by: Will66 on February 25, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
This needs to be here! (http://instagram.com/p/ksQ3SlRmfk/)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 25, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 25, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Will66;874547This needs to be here! (http://instagram.com/p/ksQ3SlRmfk/)
Hahaha, overlap = flames!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on February 26, 2014, 01:29:59 AM
Post by: Arnie_O on February 26, 2014, 01:29:59 AM
That was quite warm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Brilliant news aslong as your moving forward! Can you get patented! Lol
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Turblown on March 08, 2014, 10:57:10 PM
Post by: Turblown on March 08, 2014, 10:57:10 PM
Clive,
A version 12 firmware update will be out for the ecu this week. It has a few new features you might be interested in like advanced engine protection features. Congrats on driving the car btw!
A version 12 firmware update will be out for the ecu this week. It has a few new features you might be interested in like advanced engine protection features. Congrats on driving the car btw!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 09, 2014, 09:15:26 AM
Post by: clive on March 09, 2014, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Turblown;875213Clive,
A version 12 firmware update will be out for the ecu this week. It has a few new features you might be interested in like advanced engine protection features. Congrats on driving the car btw!
Thanks for that Elliot
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 12:09:19 AM
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 12:09:19 AM
Hi guys, Car looks fantastic!
Dont want to hijack thread. But im looking at REW swap have a few questions especially regarding ECU and keeping the DSC etc etc... could you get in touch on thread..
rx8 bridgeport/FD 13b REW swap
Thank you
Dont want to hijack thread. But im looking at REW swap have a few questions especially regarding ECU and keeping the DSC etc etc... could you get in touch on thread..
rx8 bridgeport/FD 13b REW swap
Thank you
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 22, 2014, 08:19:05 AM
Post by: clive on March 22, 2014, 08:19:05 AM
Scuba,
Unless like us you need to keep the stock systems in place due to competition rules, I would say put a conventional ECU like an Apexi or something similar to operate the engine and fit a conventional FD throttle pedal and cable which every one else who has tried this conversion has done, doing like this will make it a relatively easy conversion.
We are now 4 months down the line with just sorting out electrical problems to integrate the Chassis and the engine together with things still jumping out at us all the time to be resolved,
All these are all patiently being worked through but its taking a lot of time and sadly I will be missing the first race because of this.
My advise would be keep it simple, hope this helps.
Unless like us you need to keep the stock systems in place due to competition rules, I would say put a conventional ECU like an Apexi or something similar to operate the engine and fit a conventional FD throttle pedal and cable which every one else who has tried this conversion has done, doing like this will make it a relatively easy conversion.
We are now 4 months down the line with just sorting out electrical problems to integrate the Chassis and the engine together with things still jumping out at us all the time to be resolved,
All these are all patiently being worked through but its taking a lot of time and sadly I will be missing the first race because of this.
My advise would be keep it simple, hope this helps.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
Clive,
Thanks for the reply.
Long story short. Car will be sent around the world and driven on the road including this country. So some/most factory systems are required for certain countries laws.
Must work includes DSC, ABS, dash instruments, auto leveling headlights, and must not have any lights on the dash! And as will be on the road i would like to keep interior things like factory stereo, steering wheel controls etc.
I am unsure and am waiting on an email for the steering and throttle control whether this must remain or can be changed, but i think they can be changed?
Will i need to run a similar setup to yours for this? Or will the apexi option be able to do all this? Can i get some advice?
Thank you
Thanks for the reply.
Long story short. Car will be sent around the world and driven on the road including this country. So some/most factory systems are required for certain countries laws.
Must work includes DSC, ABS, dash instruments, auto leveling headlights, and must not have any lights on the dash! And as will be on the road i would like to keep interior things like factory stereo, steering wheel controls etc.
I am unsure and am waiting on an email for the steering and throttle control whether this must remain or can be changed, but i think they can be changed?
Will i need to run a similar setup to yours for this? Or will the apexi option be able to do all this? Can i get some advice?
Thank you
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 22, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 22, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
You will need to use the adaptor alongside the stock ecu, and apexi won\'t be able too control the rest of the rx8, unless your great at rewiring.
Eliot at turblown engineering would be a great way to start learning about what you need to do also. He could probably point you in the direction of where too start and has many variations available too you for different setups:) he could even supply you with a turbo kit for an rx8 motor and the mapping to get it sorted. I would imagine your not after much more than 400-450 HP with a car that will be doing lots of miles?
Eliot at turblown engineering would be a great way to start learning about what you need to do also. He could probably point you in the direction of where too start and has many variations available too you for different setups:) he could even supply you with a turbo kit for an rx8 motor and the mapping to get it sorted. I would imagine your not after much more than 400-450 HP with a car that will be doing lots of miles?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Post by: Scuba on March 22, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Thank you grant for the contact and advice! Yes your right was thinking 400-500hp. Thank you guys. Sorry for hijacking your thread a bit!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 23, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Scuba;876077Clive,
Thanks for the reply.
Long story short. Car will be sent around the world and driven on the road including this country. So some/most factory systems are required for certain countries laws.
Obviously I am not sure of your workshop facilities modifying capabilities, but you are going to have to go much further that I did if you want no dash warning lights.
Have a look back through this thread and you will see the amount of error codes that were thrown by the ECU.
Contact me if you wish when the car is well underway and finished mechanically and I will see what I can do to help.
If this project starts it may be an idea to start a seperate thread so people can help.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
Hi Clive,
Any updates ? Really hope your moving forward and im looking forward to seeing the car at Japfest and out on track!
Any updates ? Really hope your moving forward and im looking forward to seeing the car at Japfest and out on track!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 03, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
Post by: clive on April 03, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
Doing a lot of rewiring ATM as the ECU was still interfering with voltages, so now going down the route of splitting anything that has a significant amperage draw away from the ECU by giving completely separate stand alone feeds
Should have been at Rockingham this weekend, now animism for Castle Combe the week before Japfest
Jon, should have your pump pot tomorrow ,
Should have been at Rockingham this weekend, now animism for Castle Combe the week before Japfest
Jon, should have your pump pot tomorrow ,
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on April 18, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Post by: Martin Price on April 18, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Clive, just out of interest what were you revving your 50amp alternator to?
Reason I\'m asking is we\'re just mounting our 50amp alternator and running it off the same belt as the dry sump pump which isn\'t straight forward as the the alternator runs at double engine speed and scavenge pump runs at half speed.I didn\'t realise that alternators need to run as fast as they do until we researched it which got me thinking about the problem you had with the alternator not providing enough power.
Cheers Martin
Reason I\'m asking is we\'re just mounting our 50amp alternator and running it off the same belt as the dry sump pump which isn\'t straight forward as the the alternator runs at double engine speed and scavenge pump runs at half speed.I didn\'t realise that alternators need to run as fast as they do until we researched it which got me thinking about the problem you had with the alternator not providing enough power.
Cheers Martin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 19, 2014, 10:48:11 AM
Post by: clive on April 19, 2014, 10:48:11 AM
Hi Martin
Sorry No idea what RPM the alternator was turning at but if you look back through this thread you will see that the unit was converted to produce 100amps
My problems stemmed from piggy backing off the stock ECU to keep the car legal for the Nippon series which means you should not encounter these sort of problems running stand alone systems.
Sorry No idea what RPM the alternator was turning at but if you look back through this thread you will see that the unit was converted to produce 100amps
My problems stemmed from piggy backing off the stock ECU to keep the car legal for the Nippon series which means you should not encounter these sort of problems running stand alone systems.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on April 23, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
Post by: Martin Price on April 23, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
Hi Clive, yep I realised you managed to get a 100amp version of the 50amp alternator to overcome your problem but I wondered if you\'d done what we nearly did which was not realise these alternators need to spin at over 17,000rpm at max engine revs to work properly and only start making power at 3500rpm.
Why do you need to run the stock ECU to run in the Nippon? I don\'t think you\'ll find any car running in SGT with a stock ECU, I ran a Simtek on my Scoob. Cheers Martin
Why do you need to run the stock ECU to run in the Nippon? I don\'t think you\'ll find any car running in SGT with a stock ECU, I ran a Simtek on my Scoob. Cheers Martin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 23, 2014, 10:09:18 PM
Post by: clive on April 23, 2014, 10:09:18 PM
Hi Martin,
RPM was not the issue as I had the alternator run up on Brises alternator test rig to check its out put before deciding the custom alternator was a better way forward.
To answer the ECU question, if you are still getting the news letters you will have seen that no after market traction control or stability systems are allowed unless fitted as stock in the rules.
Steve Vince reiterated he wanted cars using these aftermarket systems disabled.
Mine will be fine as we are just using the Stock ECU to enable said systems.
BTW people, car is now almost rewired and I have said we need the car up n running again on Friday this week as I am now booked in for the 5th May event at Castle Coombe
Wont get another test in so I will just have to wait and see what I have on the day, be it good or bad, bearing in mind I have yet to dive the car in any sort of anger :Hammer.
RPM was not the issue as I had the alternator run up on Brises alternator test rig to check its out put before deciding the custom alternator was a better way forward.
To answer the ECU question, if you are still getting the news letters you will have seen that no after market traction control or stability systems are allowed unless fitted as stock in the rules.
Steve Vince reiterated he wanted cars using these aftermarket systems disabled.
Mine will be fine as we are just using the Stock ECU to enable said systems.
BTW people, car is now almost rewired and I have said we need the car up n running again on Friday this week as I am now booked in for the 5th May event at Castle Coombe
Wont get another test in so I will just have to wait and see what I have on the day, be it good or bad, bearing in mind I have yet to dive the car in any sort of anger :Hammer.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on April 24, 2014, 12:03:09 AM
Post by: Casey on April 24, 2014, 12:03:09 AM
I hope all goes well between now and the Castle Combe race and that you get some people to come along for support. I\'d really love to be down there to see the event, whatever the outcome! Gutted though that I\'ll be on a train on the way back from my nephew\'s wedding in London :(
If people do go, plenty of pics please :Thumbs-up
If people do go, plenty of pics please :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2014, 04:09:20 AM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2014, 04:09:20 AM
Ill be there! Theres a test day ( not track) on the Thurs before ( 1st May). Full or half day. Clive if thats anyhelp for you. depending on body shop I might be ready as well.:driving
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
Also Clive theres a Castle Combe trackday on the friday as well. All info on there website.....the trackday is cheaper than the test but noise limit 100 compared to 105 for testing. Im hoping the westory out on friday for testing prior to entering for the monday race. But car still in bodyshop so 50/50 still.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 26, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Thanks Jon, whilst we had the car up n running again today with just a little more work to do , I\'m just going to be happy to be able to get to the race next Monday let alone be competitive
Just a little more wiring tidying to do, however even with this done I can\'t see that I will have time to make the Friday and the Monday and then the following Saturday for Japfest
Just a little more wiring tidying to do, however even with this done I can\'t see that I will have time to make the Friday and the Monday and then the following Saturday for Japfest
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
No worries. Ill come and find you in the pits im pretty sure im gonna make it just need to test on the friday.
and youve got my number im taking lots of tools and spares so just call if your stuck for anything.
and youve got my number im taking lots of tools and spares so just call if your stuck for anything.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on April 26, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on April 26, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
take the race next week as a fun training day hope all goes well good luck :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
http://www.castlecombecircuit.co.uk/documents/timetable%20(may%20bank%20holiday%20race%20day,%20monday%205th%20may%202014).pdf
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Post by: boosted on May 04, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Hi Clive,
How you doing? do you think your gonna make it? Im getting pretty nervous myself now.
How you doing? do you think your gonna make it? Im getting pretty nervous myself now.
Title: All dressed up and no where to go
Post by: clive on May 04, 2014, 09:44:09 PM
Post by: clive on May 04, 2014, 09:44:09 PM
Hi Jon and all,
Really really sad to say tonight we have cancelled Castle Coombe with the race organiser.
We put around 200 miles on the car over the weekend and Jaydee has had two full days chasing rainbows trying to map a car that keeps moving the goal posts on him, a lost injector drive really did not help along the way :3Confused
On top of that we ran out of fuel on the A12 with over 1/4 of a tank of fuel showing :eek: (that was real fun with no hard shoulder) fortunately Kerim came out with fuel and we had no Police around, although the car was on trade plates, I really did not need the grief of them pulling the car out of danger.
Jaydee must have credit for not getting stressed or upset at all the hours he has put in and I am convinced that with the AFR readings we saw anyone else would have lost the engine.
It is really important that I stress that is would appear nobody has even got this far before with the configuration of ECU\'S we are running in an RX-8 with an FD engine, let alone be into final mapping stages.
Such is the dedication of Jaydee to succeed even though he has spent something like 15/16 hours on this over the weekend , tomorrow he is going to spend hours building a whole new different style of map using all the information gained already.
On a plus side all the other wiring work to wire the fuel pumps, water pump, suspension, transponder and the charging system away from the RX-8 loom in a friend of mines workshop has been successful with the battery keeping full charge at all times.
Looks like I may have to hire an MX-5 to get out there and race for now so I don\'t have to go through all that licensing stuff again which I will have to if I can\'t get the RX-8 up n running this year
Really sorry guys that this could not happen and not sure it will even be at Japfest, but I can tell you that with all the hours that have gone into the car by many people and myself it sure wasn\'t for the want of trying.
Really really sad to say tonight we have cancelled Castle Coombe with the race organiser.
We put around 200 miles on the car over the weekend and Jaydee has had two full days chasing rainbows trying to map a car that keeps moving the goal posts on him, a lost injector drive really did not help along the way :3Confused
On top of that we ran out of fuel on the A12 with over 1/4 of a tank of fuel showing :eek: (that was real fun with no hard shoulder) fortunately Kerim came out with fuel and we had no Police around, although the car was on trade plates, I really did not need the grief of them pulling the car out of danger.
Jaydee must have credit for not getting stressed or upset at all the hours he has put in and I am convinced that with the AFR readings we saw anyone else would have lost the engine.
It is really important that I stress that is would appear nobody has even got this far before with the configuration of ECU\'S we are running in an RX-8 with an FD engine, let alone be into final mapping stages.
Such is the dedication of Jaydee to succeed even though he has spent something like 15/16 hours on this over the weekend , tomorrow he is going to spend hours building a whole new different style of map using all the information gained already.
On a plus side all the other wiring work to wire the fuel pumps, water pump, suspension, transponder and the charging system away from the RX-8 loom in a friend of mines workshop has been successful with the battery keeping full charge at all times.
Looks like I may have to hire an MX-5 to get out there and race for now so I don\'t have to go through all that licensing stuff again which I will have to if I can\'t get the RX-8 up n running this year
Really sorry guys that this could not happen and not sure it will even be at Japfest, but I can tell you that with all the hours that have gone into the car by many people and myself it sure wasn\'t for the want of trying.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on May 04, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on May 04, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
HO no feel for you buddy keep going it will come right for you things happen for a reason. and at least you did not lose the engine.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 05, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
Post by: re japi on May 05, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
Wow, bad luck... :/ Jaydee is really working hard with that. But I´m with E-Viking, most important is that engine wont get destroyed
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 05, 2014, 06:00:59 AM
Post by: boosted on May 05, 2014, 06:00:59 AM
Real sorry to hear this....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on May 05, 2014, 08:16:50 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 05, 2014, 08:16:50 AM
What a crying shame that a project that has progressed beyond expectations should be delayed at the final hurdle. Really feel for you Clive (and Jay), so close and it will come good I am sure. I know that feeling of not making the grid after all the expectancy and after all the preparation but I am sure there are plenty more races to come.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 05, 2014, 09:07:30 AM
Post by: clive on May 05, 2014, 09:07:30 AM
Thanks guys, just had Steve Vince the series organiser on the phone who was chocked as he too was looking forward to seeing this car perform.
Really written this year off now with now two out of five missed, not sure we will even have it at Japfest now , the biggest jap event of the year.
Really written this year off now with now two out of five missed, not sure we will even have it at Japfest now , the biggest jap event of the year.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on May 05, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
Post by: shaunwil on May 05, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
Really sorry to hear your woes too, Like me it will be all the sweeter when it is running right.
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 05, 2014, 09:04:39 PM
Post by: clive on May 05, 2014, 09:04:39 PM
A day on and even more excellent dedicated work by Powergains ------------ a rogue wire has been found that was interfering with the injectors , screwing up the AFR readings and we now have a fully operational car that maps up correctly :Thumbsup!:Thumbsup!:Thumbsup! To Jaydee and Kerim
All this means we should be romping around the track at Japfest finding out what I have really got under me :3gears-lh
All this means we should be romping around the track at Japfest finding out what I have really got under me :3gears-lh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mr Froggy on May 05, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
Post by: Mr Froggy on May 05, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
Happy days
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2014, 10:04:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2014, 10:04:34 PM
Great news and sad news Clive. One reason why I have no deadline to finish my car is to avoid disappointment that it\'s not ready:( you will get there Clive and come next season you will have a well tuned car with some seat time in it outside of a competitive series:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on May 05, 2014, 10:05:10 PM
Post by: shaunwil on May 05, 2014, 10:05:10 PM
Great news :D
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 05, 2014, 11:41:13 PM
Post by: Casey on May 05, 2014, 11:41:13 PM
Glad you\'ve identified the problem and fixed it, but really sorry to hear you missed getting on the grid for the first race. I really hope you can have a couple of good shake down runs at Castle Combe on Saturday. See you on Friday night :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 06, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
Post by: re japi on May 06, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
Great news! :) Usually big problem is because of some stupid little thing. Hopefully you can have fun now without problems
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 06, 2014, 08:05:25 AM
Post by: C J R on May 06, 2014, 08:05:25 AM
Fantastic news Clive. Kerim and Jaydee at Powergains are to be applauded for sticking with it to find a solution.
Looking forward (\'cos you won\'t be behind me for long) to seeing the car at Castle Combe (Japfest).
Chris
Looking forward (\'cos you won\'t be behind me for long) to seeing the car at Castle Combe (Japfest).
Chris
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on May 06, 2014, 08:35:13 AM
Post by: kevint on May 06, 2014, 08:35:13 AM
Great news Clive, looking forward to seeing this on track at Japfest.
Track time is 11.36 - correct?
Track time is 11.36 - correct?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Initial-D on May 06, 2014, 09:57:02 AM
Post by: Initial-D on May 06, 2014, 09:57:02 AM
Nice to see you and the car at the weekend Clive, and very happy to hear it was something simple - like we said... it always is!
Unfortunate about the petrol incident on the A12! But at least you and the car were in good hands, Jay and Kerim certainly like a challenge - I\'ve found them to be the best rotary specialists around.
Unfortunate about the petrol incident on the A12! But at least you and the car were in good hands, Jay and Kerim certainly like a challenge - I\'ve found them to be the best rotary specialists around.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on May 06, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on May 06, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Great news mate. Can\'t wait to see you ripping around a track near me soon :)
Ade
Ade
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Most excellent news! Cant wait to have a look around it at Japfest.
Title: First test report
Post by: clive on May 11, 2014, 07:24:20 PM
Post by: clive on May 11, 2014, 07:24:20 PM
As some of you will have seen the RX-8 had its first run at Japfest that could finally be deemed as proper test run.
I had only 6 psi boost and a rev limit fitted but in the damp / greasy then drizzle conditions I have come back with a huge amount of info.
Malcolm worked out the times from a camera he installed in the car and worked out that the car circulated consistently at around 8 seconds quicker at 1.23 than his RX-8 that he drives with much very very well and very quickly.
I had two snap spins out of quarry but I know why:eek::Hammer.
The spins were not an issue as I just kept my foot in to make sure I spun properly rather than out of control and heading for the barriers
At Cadwell 3 years ago I had "snap oversteer" and knew it was the car and not me and on the way home worked out this was the same situation, also it caught Jaydee out the other day whilst mapping just the same way.
Next up was that the gearing was completely wrong for the car and apart from the straight I always felt the car was in the wrong but this is an easy fix as I have a fully rebuilt R3 diff ready and waiting to go in the car. :chat
Next was that because of no seat time the suspension was just set to hard and done with which was way too hard for a slippery circuit and impossible in the second session which was why I came in.
Jon (Boosted ) mailed just now to confirm my thoughts of a diff problem as he was standing at quarry bend. (picture below courtesy of Jon)
Huge huge thanks must go to the many many people who have helped in various ways to get this very special car to finally see the track (you all know who you are ):Thumbsup!
In three weeks’ time, the car will see its first race at Donnington Park with the car fully mapped and the boost turned up so we have real horsepower, plus a diff and final drive change to 4.7 then we will find out how competitive this car is going to be up against a 30 + car grid to try and uphold Rotary honor against all those Piston powered racers :3gears-lh
I had only 6 psi boost and a rev limit fitted but in the damp / greasy then drizzle conditions I have come back with a huge amount of info.
Malcolm worked out the times from a camera he installed in the car and worked out that the car circulated consistently at around 8 seconds quicker at 1.23 than his RX-8 that he drives with much very very well and very quickly.
I had two snap spins out of quarry but I know why:eek::Hammer.
The spins were not an issue as I just kept my foot in to make sure I spun properly rather than out of control and heading for the barriers
At Cadwell 3 years ago I had "snap oversteer" and knew it was the car and not me and on the way home worked out this was the same situation, also it caught Jaydee out the other day whilst mapping just the same way.
Next up was that the gearing was completely wrong for the car and apart from the straight I always felt the car was in the wrong but this is an easy fix as I have a fully rebuilt R3 diff ready and waiting to go in the car. :chat
Next was that because of no seat time the suspension was just set to hard and done with which was way too hard for a slippery circuit and impossible in the second session which was why I came in.
Jon (Boosted ) mailed just now to confirm my thoughts of a diff problem as he was standing at quarry bend. (picture below courtesy of Jon)
Huge huge thanks must go to the many many people who have helped in various ways to get this very special car to finally see the track (you all know who you are ):Thumbsup!
In three weeks’ time, the car will see its first race at Donnington Park with the car fully mapped and the boost turned up so we have real horsepower, plus a diff and final drive change to 4.7 then we will find out how competitive this car is going to be up against a 30 + car grid to try and uphold Rotary honor against all those Piston powered racers :3gears-lh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2014, 07:51:46 PM
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2014, 07:51:46 PM
Great report, and great progress :)
I´m very happy to see that car coming together. I really hope that I can see her at action someday, soon ;)
I´m very happy to see that car coming together. I really hope that I can see her at action someday, soon ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Great progress Clive, well done to everyone who has worked so hard to make this project happen :Thumbs-up
I\'m very much hoping I can get out up to Donington to give support and take some pictures! I hope there will be others who can come along too to lend support too.
I\'m very much hoping I can get out up to Donington to give support and take some pictures! I hope there will be others who can come along too to lend support too.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: 787b on May 11, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
Post by: 787b on May 11, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
awesome:Thumbs-up:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: RandomDan on May 11, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
Post by: RandomDan on May 11, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
I saw you setting some good pace round combe.
Was weird thet you were pretty much the quietest car on track though haha
Was weird thet you were pretty much the quietest car on track though haha
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on May 12, 2014, 08:10:19 AM
Post by: kevint on May 12, 2014, 08:10:19 AM
Clive, I managed to log a few lap times on Saturday, this was in the 11.36 session. I was positioned before Camp Corner.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on May 12, 2014, 08:33:56 AM
Post by: kevint on May 12, 2014, 08:33:56 AM
short clip:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 10:00:58 AM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: Kevint;878821Clive, I managed to log a few lap times on Saturday, this was in the 11.36 session. I was positioned before Camp Corner.
That\'s excellent Kevin, stacks up with the in-car video times I have given Clive. The 1.43 was after the spin into the in-field at Quarry then Clive did 1m25, 1m27, 1m26. Very close to the sequence you\'ve posted. The fastest lap was the one before the spin, 1m23, and that was with a slight holdup in traffic. The video shows he lost ~2-3s in traffic latter laps, so 1m23 seems about the pace on the day. As Clive said, that\'s on road tyres, slightly damp, low boost, rev limit at ~8k, and first time out for car. So, showing great potential :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
That\'s a great video car looks flat coming through the corner...if the weather had been more favourable those times would tumble. sounds more like a spaceship than a car..me like! Warp 9 for donnie!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
Does Clive have in-car video from that event?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Clive has an in car (HD) video of the first session, but with no sound :Hammer. The camera was taped up last minute to the roll cage, mainly so Clive could post review track times and the mute button on the camera got activated in securing the camera with gaffer tape :Hammer:Hammer. Clive borrowed my camera and I have just posted all the footage of the first session (in 2 spins!) to him on DVD for review. If he\'s happy, I\'ll post it up on youtube.....the view out of the windscreen isn\'t the best, but not bad for a last minute lash up!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 10:32:13 PM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2014, 10:32:13 PM
Clive has asked me to post up his in car video :). This is the first session of the day, the only session on film. Sorry the mute button got pressed in lashing up the camera with gaffa tape, so no sound :(!
If you\'ve got a fast internet connection, use the gearwheel (bottom left) to change to 1080 HD for best quality.
If you\'ve got a fast internet connection, use the gearwheel (bottom left) to change to 1080 HD for best quality.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2014, 05:05:41 AM
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2014, 05:05:41 AM
Thanks for that vid. :)
Seems like that car has very neutral handling. Runs quite "effortless" :)
Alltough rear tires lose grip often, but that could be just those wet conditions :)
Seems like that car has very neutral handling. Runs quite "effortless" :)
Alltough rear tires lose grip often, but that could be just those wet conditions :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on May 13, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
Post by: rote8 on May 13, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
Thanks for the video Malcolm, and Clive for showing how Castle Coombe should be driven.:burnout Never once did I manage to get the apex at Quarry right, always finding I had far more room on the exit to play with but you hit it right each and every time.:Thumbs-up Even without the soundtrack the rate you were able to reel in other cars gives a good enough impression of the speed the car was capable of and made the other RX8\'s look fairly pedestrian,:spank but then I know that was the whole idea:Giggle and not just RX8\'s. The lack of panic in the spin situations shows you have lost nothing of your race driver skills in recovering from such situations, that and the fact that you cleaned the tyres off when you rejoined the track. :god
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 13, 2014, 08:46:56 PM
Post by: clive on May 13, 2014, 08:46:56 PM
Many thanks for the above footage and comments. :Thumbsup!
Spent the afternoon fitting a different reconditioned diff fitted with a 4.7 ratio which will be much more suited to the car.
Had you had commentary you would have heard me blipping the throttle half way around Quarry because the gearing was so very wrong everywhere except a for a blat up the straight .
Next up is fitting a duel stage boost controller, this gives me a dry and a wet setting.
On a different note, a friend of mine sent me a link to the RX-8 crash that Jon (Boosted) witnessed.
Poor guy must have panicked and lifted off with promptly fishtailed him straight into the barrier, had he planted the throttle chances are he would have just have need new underwear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJ0iWpj9tk
Spent the afternoon fitting a different reconditioned diff fitted with a 4.7 ratio which will be much more suited to the car.
Had you had commentary you would have heard me blipping the throttle half way around Quarry because the gearing was so very wrong everywhere except a for a blat up the straight .
Next up is fitting a duel stage boost controller, this gives me a dry and a wet setting.
On a different note, a friend of mine sent me a link to the RX-8 crash that Jon (Boosted) witnessed.
Poor guy must have panicked and lifted off with promptly fishtailed him straight into the barrier, had he planted the throttle chances are he would have just have need new underwear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJ0iWpj9tk
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on May 13, 2014, 09:09:01 PM
Post by: rote8 on May 13, 2014, 09:09:01 PM
What a shame. How many times has similar happened and nearly always as a result of either lifting off, or braking, in an attempt to resolve an error better dealt with by powering through it.
All seems to be coming together now Clive, pleased for you. :Thumbsup!
All seems to be coming together now Clive, pleased for you. :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on May 13, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Post by: Casey on May 13, 2014, 10:18:47 PM
Just looked at the video of the silver RX-8 and noted at 2-3 seconds that something odd seems to happen at the rear offside wheel? Puncture, oil, hit something on the track??
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 14, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
Post by: re japi on May 14, 2014, 05:04:50 AM
Quote from: rote8;878916What a shame. How many times has similar happened and nearly always as a result of either lifting off, or braking, in an attempt to resolve an error better dealt with by powering through it.
Ya, that is true
Just looked that vid few times:
I think that he drifted little bit to wet side of track so left and right tyres had different traction. And when he lifted throttle, car was gone...
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on May 14, 2014, 11:21:17 AM
Post by: Kodiak on May 14, 2014, 11:21:17 AM
Was good to see an engine in the car this year!
Went with a friend this time around and took great pleasure in predicting your progress during the second session:
"He\'s going to gain two places this lap"
"Really? We\'ll see..."
*gains two places*
"Next lap he\'ll be past the FC"
"Hmmm... Ok..."
*next lap ahead of the FC by 4 lengths"
Feeling pretty smug.
"How did you know he\'d do that?"
...
"He\'s good"
I said to my mate it looked like you had a diff problem, kept pulling to the right out of Quarry. Didn\'t get to ask you about it though due to the weather.
Keep up the good work Clive :)
Went with a friend this time around and took great pleasure in predicting your progress during the second session:
"He\'s going to gain two places this lap"
"Really? We\'ll see..."
*gains two places*
"Next lap he\'ll be past the FC"
"Hmmm... Ok..."
*next lap ahead of the FC by 4 lengths"
Feeling pretty smug.
"How did you know he\'d do that?"
...
"He\'s good"
I said to my mate it looked like you had a diff problem, kept pulling to the right out of Quarry. Didn\'t get to ask you about it though due to the weather.
Keep up the good work Clive :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 14, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Post by: clive on May 14, 2014, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Kodiak;878947Was good to see an engine in the car this year!
Thanks for the comments, shame we didn\'t catch up, also a shame you didn\'t see the first session ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 18, 2014, 05:32:45 PM
Post by: clive on May 18, 2014, 05:32:45 PM
Hi All,
Just to let you know that I have just booked my first race at Donnington for Sunday June 8th
(NOT Saturday the 7th, the 7th was a misprint :Hammer)
When I get my confirmation back it will tell me the time for qualifying and the times for both races.
p.s. not expecting to set the world alight as I need some miles under me to set the thing up plus I will need a guide dog to help me around Donnington as I have never even track dayed there, let alone raced there :eek::eek:.
Just to let you know that I have just booked my first race at Donnington for Sunday June 8th
(NOT Saturday the 7th, the 7th was a misprint :Hammer)
When I get my confirmation back it will tell me the time for qualifying and the times for both races.
p.s. not expecting to set the world alight as I need some miles under me to set the thing up plus I will need a guide dog to help me around Donnington as I have never even track dayed there, let alone raced there :eek::eek:.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 18, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
Post by: boosted on May 18, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
Sweet!
You tube, should be some onboard vids to learn circuit!
You tube, should be some onboard vids to learn circuit!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on May 19, 2014, 09:45:45 AM
Post by: Martin Price on May 19, 2014, 09:45:45 AM
Hi Clive, I\'m going to come down and say hello, really looking forward to seeing your car in the flesh!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 01, 2014, 05:03:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 01, 2014, 05:03:21 PM
So Clive what\'s the timetable for the day? All being well me my dad and sister will be at donnington, just need to know what\'s best time for us to arrive at?
How is the car running?
How is the car running?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 02, 2014, 10:14:23 AM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2014, 10:14:23 AM
Here we go :Thumbsup!
Sunday 8th June Peter Morgan Memorial Donington Park
Timetable
Formula Nippon/Tricolore QUALIFYING 09:15 00:15 09:30
Nippon Challenge Race 5 14:05 00:15 14:20
Nippon Challenge Race 9 16:15 00:15 16:30
The full race program can be found on this link below
http://mscc.uk.com/competition.html?_sm_au_=iVVF62Fr2D20Mb5N
Sunday 8th June Peter Morgan Memorial Donington Park
Timetable
Formula Nippon/Tricolore QUALIFYING 09:15 00:15 09:30
Nippon Challenge Race 5 14:05 00:15 14:20
Nippon Challenge Race 9 16:15 00:15 16:30
The full race program can be found on this link below
http://mscc.uk.com/competition.html?_sm_au_=iVVF62Fr2D20Mb5N
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 02, 2014, 10:38:03 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 02, 2014, 10:38:03 AM
Thanks Clive :-) we will be there for 9/9.30. Picking my sister up from Loughborough on the way
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: steve garbutt on June 02, 2014, 12:01:53 PM
Post by: steve garbutt on June 02, 2014, 12:01:53 PM
Grant dont forget to remind me closer to the day as i know ill forget haha
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 03, 2014, 07:54:02 PM
Post by: Casey on June 03, 2014, 07:54:02 PM
Gwyn and I will be there to lend support, and hopefully take a few pictures :D
Just booked at Premier Inn, Ashby-de-la-Zouch for Saturday night, so we can get there in time for practice in the morning.
Just booked at Premier Inn, Ashby-de-la-Zouch for Saturday night, so we can get there in time for practice in the morning.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on June 05, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 05, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
managed to bum a lift to see this on sunday:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on June 06, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Post by: Kodiak on June 06, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Would have loved to have come and watched but I\'m on overtime gaining funds for my engine rebuild so... priorites! :)
Give \'em hell Clive!
Give \'em hell Clive!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
Ya, show them rotary power :) Good luck
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 06, 2014, 07:53:03 PM
Post by: clive on June 06, 2014, 07:53:03 PM
Huge thanks to everyone who have posted on this thread and all who have helped me get this far in so many different ways over the last two years , BOYS N GIRLS, WERE FINALLY GOING RACIN :3gears-rh.
Update for Sunday because the info literally changes by the day with this Donnington event :Hammer
Below is a map of were to find the Nippon pit and the time table is now as follows------------------.
Qualifying 9.15.
First race Nippon cars only 11.55
Second race mixed in with the Tricolore cars (should be a big grid 16.40
Update for Sunday because the info literally changes by the day with this Donnington event :Hammer
Below is a map of were to find the Nippon pit and the time table is now as follows------------------.
Qualifying 9.15.
First race Nippon cars only 11.55
Second race mixed in with the Tricolore cars (should be a big grid 16.40
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Clarky on June 06, 2014, 08:42:18 PM
Post by: Clarky on June 06, 2014, 08:42:18 PM
Hope you have a great days Racing Clive, wish i could be there.....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on June 06, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
Post by: rote8 on June 06, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
Good Luck Sunday Clive. Would be there if I could but I have just about used up my pass outs for this year. I hope the car performs as faultlessly as I know the driver will.:yes
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
All the best of luck for tomorrow. Remember to have fun! Was hoping to make it but alas always something todo.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Any news ? how did he qualify?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2014, 03:58:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2014, 03:58:02 PM
Started at back of grid, finished third in class. Still waiting on second race
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 04:03:55 PM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 04:03:55 PM
Excellent . Thanks Grant. Thats a great result.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 04:08:39 PM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 04:08:39 PM
Let me guess not starting from back for this 1!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on June 08, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 08, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
The car ran a lot smooooother second run out and knocked around 7 seconds faster on lap timings a good a day out weather great well done Clive nice to catch up with some members:cool
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 06:37:53 PM
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 06:37:53 PM
I\'ve only just got back and walked through the door when Clive called with a report on the 2nd race. As Tony said, a massive 7 seconds a lap better in the second race (1m29s in first race). Clive also improved to 2nd in Class and has another trophy for the day to add to his 3rd in Class from the first race.
I\'ll keep it brief, as I\'m sure Clive will post up later (and I\'ll get on with sorting through my photos!).
Great to meet up with Tony, Jim, Pete (Nutty_Chappie), JayDee, Kerim and others.
Congratulations Clive and the HUGE number of people who have worked on the car.
Photos later, I hope!
I\'ll keep it brief, as I\'m sure Clive will post up later (and I\'ll get on with sorting through my photos!).
Great to meet up with Tony, Jim, Pete (Nutty_Chappie), JayDee, Kerim and others.
Congratulations Clive and the HUGE number of people who have worked on the car.
Photos later, I hope!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 07:15:05 PM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2014, 07:15:05 PM
Woo hoo..This is great! 7 seconds a lap....someone gave the boost controller a nudge !
Well done Clive!
Well done Clive!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Some pics on Flickr via THIS LINK (https://www.flickr.com/photos/16924880@N03/)
Just one example (Click on pic to enlarge);
Just one example (Click on pic to enlarge);
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2014, 08:49:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2014, 08:49:23 PM
2nd??! Did the skyline or 200sx get DQ\'d? As for 400hp limit........ Hmm I would double that for the skyline and 200sx. Running 1.19s per lap
I think my timings may have been mis heard when I read them out for the second race:( I recorded a best of 1.27 from Clive. This was on a busy grid of 36 cars!! So there was a lot of traffic during those laps. The fastest lap I recorded was actually on a yellow flag on the last corner of which Clive slowed down and was probably the best lap with little traffic. So I would say a couple of seconds lost on the 1.27 lap which puts Clive a little closer too those 2 monsters at the front.
A good 2 bar of boost map by jaydee should see Clive stressing the 2 datsuns
I think my timings may have been mis heard when I read them out for the second race:( I recorded a best of 1.27 from Clive. This was on a busy grid of 36 cars!! So there was a lot of traffic during those laps. The fastest lap I recorded was actually on a yellow flag on the last corner of which Clive slowed down and was probably the best lap with little traffic. So I would say a couple of seconds lost on the 1.27 lap which puts Clive a little closer too those 2 monsters at the front.
A good 2 bar of boost map by jaydee should see Clive stressing the 2 datsuns
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
Post by: Casey on June 08, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
Full, officialresults posted up here;
LINK (http://www.tsl-timing.com/special/2014/142391nip.pdf)
Looks like the 7 sec improvement might have been a little optimistic :confused:
Can\'t work out why 2nd in class, unless some DQ\'s up above?
Doesn\'t detract from a superb 1st outing on a track Clive has never driven before!
LINK (http://www.tsl-timing.com/special/2014/142391nip.pdf)
Looks like the 7 sec improvement might have been a little optimistic :confused:
Can\'t work out why 2nd in class, unless some DQ\'s up above?
Doesn\'t detract from a superb 1st outing on a track Clive has never driven before!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on June 08, 2014, 09:39:42 PM
Post by: shaunwil on June 08, 2014, 09:39:42 PM
Awesome result for the day :D
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2014, 04:13:25 AM
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2014, 04:13:25 AM
Awesome! Good job! :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on June 09, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
Post by: rote8 on June 09, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
Starting from near the back is never going to see the fastest lap times as you are constantly having to position yourself to overtake, whereas the guys at the front are not going to experience this, until the later stages of the race. Lap times then tend to be closer to those of the bunch as they negotiate back markers so Clive\'s times are not far off the mark when this is taken into account, which considering a first run out for the car, on an unfamiliar track and with the car still at the shakedown stage is a bloody great result.:god
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 09, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
Post by: clive on June 09, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
First up HUGE thanks to all who came along to support and help in many different ways :Thumbs-up
Practice was dismal with a misfire plus trying to learn the circuit which left a rubbish time of 1.38 to sit me on the back of the grid!
However Jaydee of Powergains worked tirelessly through the whole day to track down why, remapping the car again and again to rid me of the missfire by the second race.
The second race I really enjoyed although the results don\'t reflect, dicing for lap after lap with a wolf in sheep\'s clothing Super GT class Suzuki Swift, a car which weighs as much as a paper bag and runs a powerful Turbo lump.
Andy with the Suzuki has won Nippon Races outright before so having a race with him was at least a step in the right direction.
As he said after, at first he tried to pressurise me into a mistake but realised that wasn\'t going to work, but like he said "at least we put on a show for the crowd" , before he got me under a yellow flag! ( I think he was docked later for this)
Real shame the camera did not work as I was at times three abreast to get past cars at times, enjoyed that :).
I will say though that the two dominant Nissans out dragged me like crazy down the straight, so this means we need to get some more power into the car, which happily we can with a bit more boost :chat
With the misfire gone, we ended up with a 1.27 lap, not good but a big 11 second improvement over my 1.38 qualifying time
At the end of the day as a team we made big steps forward all day long and surprisingly came home with two trophy\'s, now I have to find some proper speed out of the car.
Shocked particularly by the trophy from the second race and can only think that there were exclusions for driver or car "irregularities" as I was told some we huled up before the stewards.
Now the work begins------------------------------------------------
Tire temperatures are very even around the car with a front end that I know where its going and what its doing, braking and brake balance is fine so this is a good start, however I feel we need a geometry change to the rear suspension to cure the rear stability problem it has, so a change to another rear set up I have will happen before the next race and of course a bit more power from the Hayward engine under the hood:D
Well done and thank you to all you good people who have helped with the project in so many different ways to get me back behind the wheel of a proper Rotary Racer :god
Practice was dismal with a misfire plus trying to learn the circuit which left a rubbish time of 1.38 to sit me on the back of the grid!
However Jaydee of Powergains worked tirelessly through the whole day to track down why, remapping the car again and again to rid me of the missfire by the second race.
The second race I really enjoyed although the results don\'t reflect, dicing for lap after lap with a wolf in sheep\'s clothing Super GT class Suzuki Swift, a car which weighs as much as a paper bag and runs a powerful Turbo lump.
Andy with the Suzuki has won Nippon Races outright before so having a race with him was at least a step in the right direction.
As he said after, at first he tried to pressurise me into a mistake but realised that wasn\'t going to work, but like he said "at least we put on a show for the crowd" , before he got me under a yellow flag! ( I think he was docked later for this)
Real shame the camera did not work as I was at times three abreast to get past cars at times, enjoyed that :).
I will say though that the two dominant Nissans out dragged me like crazy down the straight, so this means we need to get some more power into the car, which happily we can with a bit more boost :chat
With the misfire gone, we ended up with a 1.27 lap, not good but a big 11 second improvement over my 1.38 qualifying time
At the end of the day as a team we made big steps forward all day long and surprisingly came home with two trophy\'s, now I have to find some proper speed out of the car.
Shocked particularly by the trophy from the second race and can only think that there were exclusions for driver or car "irregularities" as I was told some we huled up before the stewards.
Now the work begins------------------------------------------------
Tire temperatures are very even around the car with a front end that I know where its going and what its doing, braking and brake balance is fine so this is a good start, however I feel we need a geometry change to the rear suspension to cure the rear stability problem it has, so a change to another rear set up I have will happen before the next race and of course a bit more power from the Hayward engine under the hood:D
Well done and thank you to all you good people who have helped with the project in so many different ways to get me back behind the wheel of a proper Rotary Racer :god
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: blackadder on June 09, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Post by: blackadder on June 09, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Well done to Clive and the team but remember.....Don\'t make it too quick or they will just ban rotaries!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 10, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
Post by: clive on June 10, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
Thought I would share this as a fun thing,
My hugely understanding Lisa was at the Brands Hatch Speedfest working while I was "playing" at Donington on Sunday and presented this to me as it amused her when I got home :Hammer
My hugely understanding Lisa was at the Brands Hatch Speedfest working while I was "playing" at Donington on Sunday and presented this to me as it amused her when I got home :Hammer
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on June 10, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
Post by: rote8 on June 10, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
Couldn\'t be more appropriate.:Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 11, 2014, 09:59:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 11, 2014, 09:59:23 AM
Hahaha.
Did you find out how you got promoted too second place in the second race Clive? Did one if the datsuns get DQ\'d? Or black flagged?
Did you find out how you got promoted too second place in the second race Clive? Did one if the datsuns get DQ\'d? Or black flagged?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 11, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
Post by: clive on June 11, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;880013Hahaha.
Did you find out how you got promoted too second place in the second race Clive? Did one if the datsuns get DQ\'d? Or black flagged?
No ideas, lets see if there\'s anything in Autosport tomorrow
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmSSJodEcY
Watch the mirrors....Clives coming through!:3gears-lh:3gears-lh
Watch the mirrors....Clives coming through!:3gears-lh:3gears-lh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 11, 2014, 09:37:02 PM
Post by: clive on June 11, 2014, 09:37:02 PM
One of the ideas behind all this whole project is to show people the "Rotary" and hopefully destroy a few myths along the way, this started sooner than expected !
7am Race day morning, the race organiser approaches me and immediately says , so why are these RX-8\'s engines no good and so unreliable (wow there was an excellent start to the day)
I quickly explained that the biggest reliability problems came from the ignition coils hurting the engines and not the engine itself and left it at that :Hammer:Hammer
Yesterday I had a call from the same guy who told me that he now wanted more info on how to actually look at buying an RX-8 as he will now look to go back racing in his own series with one.
We can now put this down to another successfully I have poisoned to the way of the Rotary :Thumbsup!:D
7am Race day morning, the race organiser approaches me and immediately says , so why are these RX-8\'s engines no good and so unreliable (wow there was an excellent start to the day)
I quickly explained that the biggest reliability problems came from the ignition coils hurting the engines and not the engine itself and left it at that :Hammer:Hammer
Yesterday I had a call from the same guy who told me that he now wanted more info on how to actually look at buying an RX-8 as he will now look to go back racing in his own series with one.
We can now put this down to another successfully I have poisoned to the way of the Rotary :Thumbsup!:D
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 11, 2014, 09:49:55 PM
Post by: Casey on June 11, 2014, 09:49:55 PM
^^ Great story Clive :)
OK, big drum roll please................
Team Haynsford "IT Manager/Media Manager/Video Producer" (aka Casey :p) has managed to get some in-car video footage of the 2nd race up on YouTube! Two issues though;
For some reason the video stops before the end of the race :Hammer
To get the best quality, click on the "gearwheel", bottom right, and select 1080p.....enjoy....!
OK, big drum roll please................
Team Haynsford "IT Manager/Media Manager/Video Producer" (aka Casey :p) has managed to get some in-car video footage of the 2nd race up on YouTube! Two issues though;
For some reason the video stops before the end of the race :Hammer
To get the best quality, click on the "gearwheel", bottom right, and select 1080p.....enjoy....!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Post by: boosted on June 11, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
great vid...it flys! 9.53!!! well held that man!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on June 12, 2014, 05:09:36 AM
Post by: re japi on June 12, 2014, 05:09:36 AM
Quote from: clive;880037One of the ideas behind all this whole project is to show people the "Rotary" and hopefully destroy a few myths along the way, this started sooner than expected !
7am Race day morning, the race organiser approaches me and immediately says , so why are these RX-8\'s engines no good and so unreliable (wow there was an excellent start to the day)
I quickly explained that the biggest reliability problems came from the ignition coils hurting the engines and not the engine itself and left it at that :Hammer:Hammer
Yesterday I had a call from the same guy who told me that he now wanted more info on how to actually look at buying an RX-8 as he will now look to go back racing in his own series with one.
We can now put this down to another successfully I have poisoned to the way of the Rotary :Thumbsup!:D
Yes, that kind of ignorance really :censored::censored::censored::censored:es me off! Especially here where noone knows anything about rotarys but they think they do. All they know is that few NSU´s have blew up and they base their knowledge to that fact. Really gets my blood to boil... :reallymad
Anyways, good job Clive and crew! And thanks for vid Casey :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on June 12, 2014, 05:12:21 PM
Post by: Martin Price on June 12, 2014, 05:12:21 PM
Good to meet you on Sunday Clive and glad you got your car going better for the races. You were very brave racing at Donington having never driven a lap there. In my opinion it\'s a circuit that\'s track knowledge critical to get a good lap time as there are so may corners that flow into each other.
I had the pleasure of starting a Nippon race from the back of the grid last time they were there. I was in my Scoob which is now sold. It was a great car which I miss but I\'m hoping my RX8 will fill the gap and then some!!!
Here\'s my video from the back of the grid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxvzt3i-6IU
Cheers Martin
I had the pleasure of starting a Nippon race from the back of the grid last time they were there. I was in my Scoob which is now sold. It was a great car which I miss but I\'m hoping my RX8 will fill the gap and then some!!!
Here\'s my video from the back of the grid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxvzt3i-6IU
Cheers Martin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on June 12, 2014, 09:37:15 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 12, 2014, 09:37:15 PM
well worth bumming a lift from pete to watch clive and well done mate good day out:Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2014, 11:09:35 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2014, 11:09:35 PM
I found your vid looking for vids of Clive....i watched it and thought oh my god that things flies! and blokes a nutter lol! This the same dark blue new age scoob i seen at combe without the spoiler?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Martin Price on June 13, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
Post by: Martin Price on June 13, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
It was standard STI engine and turbo running more boost making it around 350bhp.
On that day it\'s was the 5th fastest in the Nippon race down straight. I raced it in SuperGT but two cars in 300bhp class were faster down straight.
If you look carefully on start you can see Andy\'s Swift (who Clive had a battle with)stranded on the line after stalling. He was very lucky not to get collected!
On that day it\'s was the 5th fastest in the Nippon race down straight. I raced it in SuperGT but two cars in 300bhp class were faster down straight.
If you look carefully on start you can see Andy\'s Swift (who Clive had a battle with)stranded on the line after stalling. He was very lucky not to get collected!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: DaveCollins on June 13, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on June 13, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
Clive - I am really pleased to see you had a successful first race day after all of the hard work you and others have put in over the months and years to get to this point. I hope you were able to enjoy the day even if only in retrospect as seems to happen with many race days when you are caught up in the heat of the moment during the day. I look forward to a chance to see the car in action at a future event and hope the incremental improvements you can make after each track experience end up producing a truly competitive car to show everyone what rotaries are still capable of.
Dave
Dave
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 13, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Post by: clive on June 13, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Thanks for the comments Guys and good to catch up with you Martin even if only briefly.
Well today has been a huge revelation !:2Confused
I have often said that on track/
"you can only go as fast as the car will let you go"
Today I found out why the car was so damn slow into and then off of corners :o
I took the car into TDI for a suspension check and explained that I felt as I said in another post that I felt the geometry was totally wrong on the car which led me to essentially just trying to keep out of the way of other cars in the corners:Hammer.
Turns out that for once in my life I was right !!!
As soon as we lifted the car and looked up we found that the long rear link bar from sub frame to upright was bent like a banana, causing severe toe out on the side I wanted to corner on most of the time, no ideas when and how this was bent along the way.
This also means that as the suspension went up n down all the geometry was moving through the wrong angles on that corner.
(btw YOU NEVER BUT NEVER HAVE TOE OUT ON ANY CAR AS IT MAKES A CAR DANGEROUSLY UNSTABLE )!!
Moving to the driver’s rear, this had toe in so something moved here as well.
The guys at TDI told me they really did not know how I ever got it around the track period and that they were sure many would have just parked the car and done with !!!
Really great to know why I was so slow and my suspicion of wrong geometry set was right as I would have been real worried had we found nothing wrong
Trouble is the suspension was changed and aligned over a year ago and much has happened with the car since but now we have a way forward plus we will have wider 265 rubber on the back for next time;)
(Below is not a picture of my car but just to show you where the long bent link bar is located.)
Well today has been a huge revelation !:2Confused
I have often said that on track/
"you can only go as fast as the car will let you go"
Today I found out why the car was so damn slow into and then off of corners :o
I took the car into TDI for a suspension check and explained that I felt as I said in another post that I felt the geometry was totally wrong on the car which led me to essentially just trying to keep out of the way of other cars in the corners:Hammer.
Turns out that for once in my life I was right !!!
As soon as we lifted the car and looked up we found that the long rear link bar from sub frame to upright was bent like a banana, causing severe toe out on the side I wanted to corner on most of the time, no ideas when and how this was bent along the way.
This also means that as the suspension went up n down all the geometry was moving through the wrong angles on that corner.
(btw YOU NEVER BUT NEVER HAVE TOE OUT ON ANY CAR AS IT MAKES A CAR DANGEROUSLY UNSTABLE )!!
Moving to the driver’s rear, this had toe in so something moved here as well.
The guys at TDI told me they really did not know how I ever got it around the track period and that they were sure many would have just parked the car and done with !!!
Really great to know why I was so slow and my suspicion of wrong geometry set was right as I would have been real worried had we found nothing wrong
Trouble is the suspension was changed and aligned over a year ago and much has happened with the car since but now we have a way forward plus we will have wider 265 rubber on the back for next time;)
(Below is not a picture of my car but just to show you where the long bent link bar is located.)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on June 13, 2014, 09:45:12 PM
Post by: Casey on June 13, 2014, 09:45:12 PM
Great news, in that there is a clear reason for your handling problems last Sunday! I hope it turns out to be easy to fix...
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on June 13, 2014, 10:34:26 PM
Post by: shaunwil on June 13, 2014, 10:34:26 PM
Blimey, that definitely wouldn\'t help !
Is it like the one that always got bent on the 4 arm linkage on the 1st gen ? Maybe it would be worth seeing if somebody could make you an uprated version machined out of billet aluminium.
Shaun
Is it like the one that always got bent on the 4 arm linkage on the 1st gen ? Maybe it would be worth seeing if somebody could make you an uprated version machined out of billet aluminium.
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on June 14, 2014, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: rote8 on June 14, 2014, 09:51:52 AM
Great diagnostics on your part, you said it felt \'loose\' at the back, I\'m surprised you managed to keep it on the black stuff at all with that set up.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 01:02:34 PM
Thanks Ray,
You never know , maybe just maybe , next time out I may even get to drive the car rather than it driving me :rolleyes:
You never know , maybe just maybe , next time out I may even get to drive the car rather than it driving me :rolleyes:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on June 14, 2014, 02:06:57 PM
Post by: seanp on June 14, 2014, 02:06:57 PM
A bad workman always blames his tools ;)
Seriously Clive - great work in keeping it on the road - never mind making up the places in the race. I really want to make it to one of them, but afraid the next two I cannot :(
Best of luck in the next races - I hope this manages to improve your times significantly :)
Seriously Clive - great work in keeping it on the road - never mind making up the places in the race. I really want to make it to one of them, but afraid the next two I cannot :(
Best of luck in the next races - I hope this manages to improve your times significantly :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2014, 04:32:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2014, 04:32:46 PM
:eekWe\'ll that sure would effect the cars cornering ability:eek:eek:eek:eek
Now that has been sorted, when you hitting the dyno for enough power too out drag that Datsun on the straights?
Now that has been sorted, when you hitting the dyno for enough power too out drag that Datsun on the straights?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: seanp;880095A bad workman always blames his tools ;)I fully agree, but don\'t worry I have the book of excuses fully primed and ready to go:Viking
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;880097Now that has been sorted, when you hitting the dyno for enough power too out drag that Datsun on the straights?
Not sorted just yet, should have parts rounded up by next weekend. Struggling to find the 9.5 x18 that I need ATM, should know more on Monday
As for power, with a bit more boost dialled in by Powergains mapper extraordinaire, Jaydee, I am looking more to have some more power lower down
Exit speed with low down power should greatly improve once we have this suspension stuff sorted
Everyone one around me has heard me say , first we get it up n running then we develop------------and now it begins.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: mexx on June 18, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
Post by: mexx on June 18, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
great work indeed Clive can\'t wait to see it on the track.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on June 26, 2014, 10:04:49 AM
Post by: clive on June 26, 2014, 10:04:49 AM
Just to let you know the next race is at Snetterton on the 200 track on Saturday the 12th July (not the Sunday)
I have now changed my main rear suspension link bars and removed the bent one that was making the car so difficult to drive as you will see below. No ideas how this happened but we have brand new bars on there now.
Off to TDI at Lakeside next Wednesday to get everything realigned, just hoping my 9.5x18\'s that will be going on the rear with 265 Yokohama\'s turn up in time.
I have now changed my main rear suspension link bars and removed the bent one that was making the car so difficult to drive as you will see below. No ideas how this happened but we have brand new bars on there now.
Off to TDI at Lakeside next Wednesday to get everything realigned, just hoping my 9.5x18\'s that will be going on the rear with 265 Yokohama\'s turn up in time.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 03, 2014, 01:28:01 PM
Post by: clive on July 03, 2014, 01:28:01 PM
With the car armed with its new suspension bars it was off Lakeside Essex to tdi (Torque Developments international) yesterday for a full suspension re-jig
After much discussion we based my now new settings on the little information I could bring to the party, well I knew the front worked at the slow speeds I was entering corners at !, this means we should still have good turn in and keep the rear tyre\'s flat on the ground to give exit speed (well that\'s the theory) :chat .
As you can see below these guys have real equipment and were trained at Pro-Drive, nice thing is that everything is shown in real time on a TV screen at the front of the car so even when final tightening takes place, if anything moves it can be seen.
Finally In recognition of Jaydee\'s work (and continued work) we have new Powergains stickers up the side as well now.
After much discussion we based my now new settings on the little information I could bring to the party, well I knew the front worked at the slow speeds I was entering corners at !, this means we should still have good turn in and keep the rear tyre\'s flat on the ground to give exit speed (well that\'s the theory) :chat .
As you can see below these guys have real equipment and were trained at Pro-Drive, nice thing is that everything is shown in real time on a TV screen at the front of the car so even when final tightening takes place, if anything moves it can be seen.
Finally In recognition of Jaydee\'s work (and continued work) we have new Powergains stickers up the side as well now.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: mexx on July 03, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Post by: mexx on July 03, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
looks really nice that is going to be a trofy than good luck and have fun Clive.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
looking good! Did you get your bigger rear wheels on?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 03, 2014, 09:50:06 PM
Post by: clive on July 03, 2014, 09:50:06 PM
Thanks guys,
Rear wheels should be in direct from Enkei in the States tomorrow, I will get some pics up when they are on
Astons lent me his arch roller in case it needs fattening up at the back a bit:eek:
Rear wheels should be in direct from Enkei in the States tomorrow, I will get some pics up when they are on
Astons lent me his arch roller in case it needs fattening up at the back a bit:eek:
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 08, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
I have an update but no pictures I\'m afraid.
After working today to rebuild the clutch after the metal center plate between the two friction plates stuck and would not let clutch free off we are all set to race this Saturday @ Snetterton .
Thanks go to Lewis @ LC Rotary who gave me the use of a lift and worked with me to pull the gear box out and re-fit, also to Mazdatrix in the States who came through to get me a pair of friction plates and the center plate across to me in just two days,
Turned out the plates had no wear though, so that tiny Quatermaster clutch is holding the power OK (see below).
Also we now have a new pair of 265 Yokohama sitting on Enkie 9x18 rims to find some more grip at the back
For those attending this Saturday, 12th July, it looks like a real good entertaining race program with the MX-5 Super Cup, TVR racing, Quaife special saloons and much more
http://www.snetterton.co.uk/media/3020251/brscc.pdf
For the Nippon Challenge Trophy on the 200 circuit times on track are as follows /
Qualifying:-
10:30
Race 1 Nippon Challenge Trophy
14.15
Race 6 Nippon Challenge Trophy
Start 17.20
After working today to rebuild the clutch after the metal center plate between the two friction plates stuck and would not let clutch free off we are all set to race this Saturday @ Snetterton .
Thanks go to Lewis @ LC Rotary who gave me the use of a lift and worked with me to pull the gear box out and re-fit, also to Mazdatrix in the States who came through to get me a pair of friction plates and the center plate across to me in just two days,
Turned out the plates had no wear though, so that tiny Quatermaster clutch is holding the power OK (see below).
Also we now have a new pair of 265 Yokohama sitting on Enkie 9x18 rims to find some more grip at the back
For those attending this Saturday, 12th July, it looks like a real good entertaining race program with the MX-5 Super Cup, TVR racing, Quaife special saloons and much more
http://www.snetterton.co.uk/media/3020251/brscc.pdf
For the Nippon Challenge Trophy on the 200 circuit times on track are as follows /
Qualifying:-
10:30
Race 1 Nippon Challenge Trophy
14.15
Race 6 Nippon Challenge Trophy
Start 17.20
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
Good look this week end Clive. Hopefully see better qualifying this time:)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2014, 08:13:29 PM
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2014, 08:13:29 PM
Good luck Clive! That clutch is bonkers looks like a clutch outta a moped!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Any news on how Clives doing?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 08:54:13 AM
Quote from: boosted;880940Any news on how Clives doing?
Not much to report I\'m afraid, sadly for what ever reason the car lost oil pressure and I pulled off on the last lap of qualifying :3Confused
No ideas as to why as yet, however I will know later in the week as we already had the engine to lift out out of the before putting it back on the trailer
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Darn! Not a good weekend for both of us! Id appreciate your view on my crash you tube clip Clive with your track experience. I dont need it wrapped it cotton wool! If you think its driver error then ok all part of the learn.
Hope you get it sorted real soon.
Hope you get it sorted real soon.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on July 13, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
Post by: rote8 on July 13, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
Oh!! B***er. Hope our conversation didn\'t tempt providence.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
Balls, was it something inside the engine or a blown pipe ?
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;880999Balls, was it something inside the engine or a blown pipe ?
Shaun
No idea as yet Shaun, no blown pipes , oil level fine, still has compression, nothing got hot etc ,
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2014, 06:41:20 PM
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2014, 06:41:20 PM
Ahh crap, sorry to hear that Clive.
Hopyfully there is no damage in engine
Hopyfully there is no damage in engine
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
Quote from: clive;881003No idea as yet Shaun, no blown pipes , oil level fine, still has compression, nothing got hot etc ,
Blimey, maybe the chain has broken to the oil pump in the front cover. Strange though, very strange.
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
Possible faulty gauge?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 07:26:27 PM
Post by: shaunwil on July 13, 2014, 07:26:27 PM
Can you crank it over without the ignition switched on and stick the pipe off the turbo in to a bottle to check for pressure.
Faulty gauge sounds more plausible than something going wrong inside the engine.
Shaun
Faulty gauge sounds more plausible than something going wrong inside the engine.
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on July 13, 2014, 09:27:57 PM
Post by: rote8 on July 13, 2014, 09:27:57 PM
Hopefully just a faulty sender or similar. You must be due some good luck soon.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
Post by: clive on July 13, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
Committed now, engines ready to lift out
I will start by dropping the oil out tomorrow to see if there is any debris and as I am this far I am going to do a strip and check anyway
Just checked on tsl-timing.com and found the results,
Personally I felt I was still crawling around so it\'s a little refreshing to see I would have been 11th on the grid out of 36 cars, but at 6 seconds away from the two dominant cars there\'s a way to go yet
I will start by dropping the oil out tomorrow to see if there is any debris and as I am this far I am going to do a strip and check anyway
Just checked on tsl-timing.com and found the results,
Personally I felt I was still crawling around so it\'s a little refreshing to see I would have been 11th on the grid out of 36 cars, but at 6 seconds away from the two dominant cars there\'s a way to go yet
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
Latest update. The car ran very well at Donington yesterday (Japfest 2). Here\'s some video form Clive\'s onboard camera....:mmmm
Once running, use the gearwheel (bottom right) to select 1080p for best viewing quality.....
Once running, use the gearwheel (bottom right) to select 1080p for best viewing quality.....
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2014, 04:01:21 PM
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2014, 04:01:21 PM
Great vid, thanks Malcolm
And good driving there Clive. Car seems to be working just fine now! :)
And good driving there Clive. Car seems to be working just fine now! :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
ohhh goodie goodie! defo got some serious poke now....well done! sounds awesome as well!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
The magic numbers for the skyline and 200sx are 120.2 and 120.8 qualify times sunny/dry.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on August 18, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Post by: shaunwil on August 18, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Nice video. Marshal was a complete numpty letting you out into all the traffic. Thought they where there to actually spot a good place to get you out on track.
Did you pull away from the GTR ? Very impressive !
Shaun
Did you pull away from the GTR ? Very impressive !
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 18, 2014, 07:08:37 PM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2014, 07:08:37 PM
Finally I have been able to drive the car somewhere near "properly":) and the good part is I know I have soooo much more to come from the car now the chassis is starting to work properly :chat
As you will see the car has changed from the last post, with the most noticeable thing being the rear wing that has now totally transformed the car with NO wheel spin and no stepping out but more importantly its giving proper down-force that\'s not only getting me into corners with more and confidence but also getting grip off of them as well, thanks go to my old mate Steve Phillips for working his socks off last week to build it in time.
I know it works because for the first time I came back with virtually brake dust free wheels, which means I am using a lot less brake to get the car into corners :cool
It will now come off for a few more mods and paint before the next outing :D
Next up was the diff, went back to a 4.4 but now know I will need to build up a 4.3 to get the rev range where I want it to be and this may well be good for most tracks with this gearing :3gears-rh.
Still feel its probably only around 300ish brake at the moment but I\'m sure with the enormous dedication Jaydee and Powergains have for the project to get this car running at the sharp end I now know that by the next outing we will have some real power going on under the bonnet :Thumbs-up
Not sure yet how much time we found over the last visit to Donnington but we need to find 5 or 6 seconds but I am sure this is now do-able with some more power, shock absorber / suspension tuning and time behind the wheel we will get there------------time will tell
As you will see the car has changed from the last post, with the most noticeable thing being the rear wing that has now totally transformed the car with NO wheel spin and no stepping out but more importantly its giving proper down-force that\'s not only getting me into corners with more and confidence but also getting grip off of them as well, thanks go to my old mate Steve Phillips for working his socks off last week to build it in time.
I know it works because for the first time I came back with virtually brake dust free wheels, which means I am using a lot less brake to get the car into corners :cool
It will now come off for a few more mods and paint before the next outing :D
Next up was the diff, went back to a 4.4 but now know I will need to build up a 4.3 to get the rev range where I want it to be and this may well be good for most tracks with this gearing :3gears-rh.
Still feel its probably only around 300ish brake at the moment but I\'m sure with the enormous dedication Jaydee and Powergains have for the project to get this car running at the sharp end I now know that by the next outing we will have some real power going on under the bonnet :Thumbs-up
Not sure yet how much time we found over the last visit to Donnington but we need to find 5 or 6 seconds but I am sure this is now do-able with some more power, shock absorber / suspension tuning and time behind the wheel we will get there------------time will tell
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 07:21:56 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2014, 07:21:56 PM
blimey! you\'d scare off the red baron with that wing.:Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 07:40:54 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;882151Marshal was a complete numpty letting you out into all the traffic. Thought they where there to actually spot a good place to get you out on track.
Thankfully, unlike other aspects of the safety briefing, we were clearly told to use mirrors on entry to the circuit and it was perfectly acceptable to stop in the "triangle" if cars were preventing safe entry. Nasty place for a track entry though, right on braking point on fast approach to corner after a long, downhill straight!
Luckily, the inaccurate parts of the safety briefing (about static noise testing and signing up for tuition) were not safety related.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on August 18, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Post by: shaunwil on August 18, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Looks interesting. Not completely sure about the upstands on the wing though, how thick is the sheet ?
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on August 19, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Post by: Kodiak on August 19, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Looks about 3mm. Thick enough for a sill, should be fine.
So still keeping the existing Wing on there Clive? Why not do away with it and have a double vane on the new one?
So still keeping the existing Wing on there Clive? Why not do away with it and have a double vane on the new one?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 19, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
Post by: andrewrx7 on August 19, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
Great video, enjoyed that!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 19, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
Couple of things,
The struts are stronger than they look as they are joined in pairs (not visible in the pictures).
Keeping the lower wing was deliberate as it should (hopefully) tidy up turbulence from behind the car, also the wing is as I put it "a Red Bull wing" because it flexes at high speed down onto the lower wing.
An RX8 owner (Bob) took the video below which shows the car in corners looking a little better than ever before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyzunlhod0&feature=youtu.be
The struts are stronger than they look as they are joined in pairs (not visible in the pictures).
Keeping the lower wing was deliberate as it should (hopefully) tidy up turbulence from behind the car, also the wing is as I put it "a Red Bull wing" because it flexes at high speed down onto the lower wing.
An RX8 owner (Bob) took the video below which shows the car in corners looking a little better than ever before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyzunlhod0&feature=youtu.be
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on August 20, 2014, 09:25:12 AM
Post by: shaunwil on August 20, 2014, 09:25:12 AM
Just keep an eye on the bottom corner just above the bottom wing. Do you have a radius in that edge ? Will crack upwards under fatigue if its a sharp corner.
Does look cool :)
Shaun
Does look cool :)
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 20, 2014, 12:20:27 PM
Post by: clive on August 20, 2014, 12:20:27 PM
Thanks Shaun,
That was very "prototype" its coming off this week for more work and paint :Thumbsup!
That was very "prototype" its coming off this week for more work and paint :Thumbsup!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on October 26, 2014, 07:10:54 PM
Post by: clive on October 26, 2014, 07:10:54 PM
We are finally going Racing again in anger next Saturday at Snetterton with a car that is finally mapped and running properly and should be producing much more than the 300 BHP it was :confused:.
Thanks to many many hours work and the same in support and mapping from Jaydee and Kerim of my sponsors from Powergains and after a successful run today, this means as you will see below we will be in three 15 minute races, this time on the full 300 circuit.
http://www.snetterton.co.uk/calendar.../msvr-(1).aspx
As many will know attempting something that has never been done anywhere else on the planet will always be a challenge and we can now say 100% that we have integrated a big power RX-8 FD engine into the RX-8 chassis keeping everything like the stability and traction control systems working correctly, this has taken one year of work plus a huge amount of patience to make the engine run properly, indeed many times I have considered alternative routes just to get the car out there racing properly even if it deviated from my original build plan.
This time around I have changed the engine wiring loom, had a different stock ECU initialised into the chassis sent the Adaptronic ECU away for updating plus I have changed many other components as well. So many parts have been changed even the exhaust system (now running Racing Beat cat Back) that we really don’t know what cured the misfire/ detonation faults that had us baffled for so long.
Once again I must say thank you to Jaydee and Kerim for the huge support they have given to get my Rotary out on track now functioning correctly .
Thanks to many many hours work and the same in support and mapping from Jaydee and Kerim of my sponsors from Powergains and after a successful run today, this means as you will see below we will be in three 15 minute races, this time on the full 300 circuit.
http://www.snetterton.co.uk/calendar.../msvr-(1).aspx
As many will know attempting something that has never been done anywhere else on the planet will always be a challenge and we can now say 100% that we have integrated a big power RX-8 FD engine into the RX-8 chassis keeping everything like the stability and traction control systems working correctly, this has taken one year of work plus a huge amount of patience to make the engine run properly, indeed many times I have considered alternative routes just to get the car out there racing properly even if it deviated from my original build plan.
This time around I have changed the engine wiring loom, had a different stock ECU initialised into the chassis sent the Adaptronic ECU away for updating plus I have changed many other components as well. So many parts have been changed even the exhaust system (now running Racing Beat cat Back) that we really don’t know what cured the misfire/ detonation faults that had us baffled for so long.
Once again I must say thank you to Jaydee and Kerim for the huge support they have given to get my Rotary out on track now functioning correctly .
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on October 28, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
Post by: Casey on October 28, 2014, 06:15:59 PM
Arrrrrrgggghhhh, gutted :( I had put this race in my diary a while back and was looking forward to seeing the car again, having seen all it\'s previous outings on track. I knew there was a home footie match the same day at 3pm in Colchester which I "have" to attend. No problem I thought, I\'ll get up early to arrive at Snetterton ~8am and I could stay until about 1.30pm to see at least practice and one race. However......
Last night my son asked if I could accompany him to a local Audi dealer this Saturday at 10am to help him test drive a low mileage 2 year old A1, with a view to purchase. Of course I said yes, as this will be the first time he\'s bought a car of his own. It was only when Clive called me today I realised the clash :eek:
So, it looks as though I\'m going to miss the car\'s first, proper, outing, and miss meeting up with other club members there too. So disappointed :(
Anyway, good luck on Saturday Clive, I hope you give the Skyline and 200SX some serious competition. I would so dearly loved to have seen that :)
BTW, your camera card will be in the post to you first thing in the morning - got home too late today to catch the post!
Last night my son asked if I could accompany him to a local Audi dealer this Saturday at 10am to help him test drive a low mileage 2 year old A1, with a view to purchase. Of course I said yes, as this will be the first time he\'s bought a car of his own. It was only when Clive called me today I realised the clash :eek:
So, it looks as though I\'m going to miss the car\'s first, proper, outing, and miss meeting up with other club members there too. So disappointed :(
Anyway, good luck on Saturday Clive, I hope you give the Skyline and 200SX some serious competition. I would so dearly loved to have seen that :)
BTW, your camera card will be in the post to you first thing in the morning - got home too late today to catch the post!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on October 28, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
Post by: Will66 on October 28, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
I ought to be able to make it over for a couple of the races although my Saturday is quite busy so I cannot promise anything.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on October 29, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
Post by: Kodiak on October 29, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
Was planning on coming up to see this and stay with the girlfriends family who live up in Norfolk.
Turns out they\'re coming to US this weekend because our little one has her first Ballet show...
Best of luck Clive! Looking forward to attending some of the races next season as it\'ll be an excuse to run in my new engine as well! :Party
Turns out they\'re coming to US this weekend because our little one has her first Ballet show...
Best of luck Clive! Looking forward to attending some of the races next season as it\'ll be an excuse to run in my new engine as well! :Party
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on October 29, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
Quote from: Kodiak;883685Looking forward to attending some of the races next season as it\'ll be an excuse to run in my new engine as well! :Party
Good to hear your up n running again, it\'s been a while :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2014, 04:46:51 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2014, 04:46:51 PM
Fair play Clive i admire your determination to stick with it. fingers, toes legs and arms crossed for you Saturday! And dont forget the vids!
looked at coming along but committed to house diy at the mo and must keep the boss happy for them all important browny points! lol.
Good luck from me!
looked at coming along but committed to house diy at the mo and must keep the boss happy for them all important browny points! lol.
Good luck from me!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
Right everyone a bit of positive thinking and praying to the Rotor God.:chat
This car is gonna be sweet tomoz and silence the critics!:driving
Rotor Rules!:driving
Give em hell Clive!:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving
This car is gonna be sweet tomoz and silence the critics!:driving
Rotor Rules!:driving
Give em hell Clive!:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving:driving
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on October 31, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
Post by: re japi on October 31, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
I really wish that I could see it run tomorrow. But cant :)
Yeah, give em hell Clive! :)
Yeah, give em hell Clive! :)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on October 31, 2014, 08:39:39 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on October 31, 2014, 08:39:39 PM
All the best for tomorrow clive wish i could be there for this but will be waiting for an in-depth report later zoom zoom.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
Any news on the car today?
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 01, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
Post by: Casey on November 01, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
^^Just spotted the full results on this link;
CLICK HERE (http://www.tsl-timing.com/msvr/2014/144451taw.pdf)
Qualified 13th on the grid out of 40, so a good start, although the time of 2:39.556 wasn\'t that quick. For reference, my RX-8 can lap Snetterton consistently at 2:33.00
1st race result shows "DNF" and only 4 of 7 laps completed :(
The good news is, he\'d come from 13th to 7th place, and the last lap recorded showed a time of 2:19.716, having gone consistently faster every lap until that point. The fastest lap of any car in the race was 2:14.907, so not a million miles of the pace. Clive would probably have been battling in the top 4 if his pace had continued.
No show in the subsequent two races, so I hope nothing serious.
CLICK HERE (http://www.tsl-timing.com/msvr/2014/144451taw.pdf)
Qualified 13th on the grid out of 40, so a good start, although the time of 2:39.556 wasn\'t that quick. For reference, my RX-8 can lap Snetterton consistently at 2:33.00
1st race result shows "DNF" and only 4 of 7 laps completed :(
The good news is, he\'d come from 13th to 7th place, and the last lap recorded showed a time of 2:19.716, having gone consistently faster every lap until that point. The fastest lap of any car in the race was 2:14.907, so not a million miles of the pace. Clive would probably have been battling in the top 4 if his pace had continued.
No show in the subsequent two races, so I hope nothing serious.
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 01, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Post by: clive on November 01, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Hi All,
First up many thanks to all of you who came along today, especially Jim (lennycarloff) who travelled a huge distance to be with us (sorry you got there to late Will 66).
To expand on the above as first cars out for qualifying on a very damp track this was not the best start to the day, especially in a rear wheel drive car against FWD and 4WD cars
Even though the car seemed to have zero grip I noticed the car was clutch slipping in 5th so was feathering out in 4th to get through qualifying.
Once back in the pits I gave the clutch as much free-play as possible but was suspicious the all was not well, and I was right!
The race itself was on a dry track and I consciously decided not to risk frying the clutch of the line, but sadly found that the clutch was slipping like mad from the off and as you will see from the video that’s coming I had to feather the clutch till it found some grip at around 7.000 rpm , then I could start to catch people !
When the clutch finally cried enough it was frustrating as I knew the car was quicker than the 3rd and 4th placed cars I was trying to overtake and even more frustrating was that had the clutch not been slipping at all that car would have been way way quicker that at least these two cars and you never know maybe even the leaders.
By now I knew the problem was oil on the clutch due to the rear mail oil seal failing that meant a hugely disappointing game over for the day.
On a plus side thanks to Jaydee the car now runs cleanly and at last properly, plus I can now get the car around all around the Corram complex thanks to the downforce from the rear wing and best of all I know that there is a lot of speed to come from the car overall.
As I said to Jaydee on the way home, yes real chocked to have had the car side-lined for such a stupid problem but I would rather work through these problems with a car that should eventually prove to be competitive rather than a super reliable car that floundering around at the back of the grid !!!
Next outing will be the track day on the 5th of December at Brands and you can imagine, with the clutch sorted plus an engine that now performs how it should I am really looking forward to its next outing---- see you there
p.s. video to follow
First up many thanks to all of you who came along today, especially Jim (lennycarloff) who travelled a huge distance to be with us (sorry you got there to late Will 66).
To expand on the above as first cars out for qualifying on a very damp track this was not the best start to the day, especially in a rear wheel drive car against FWD and 4WD cars
Even though the car seemed to have zero grip I noticed the car was clutch slipping in 5th so was feathering out in 4th to get through qualifying.
Once back in the pits I gave the clutch as much free-play as possible but was suspicious the all was not well, and I was right!
The race itself was on a dry track and I consciously decided not to risk frying the clutch of the line, but sadly found that the clutch was slipping like mad from the off and as you will see from the video that’s coming I had to feather the clutch till it found some grip at around 7.000 rpm , then I could start to catch people !
When the clutch finally cried enough it was frustrating as I knew the car was quicker than the 3rd and 4th placed cars I was trying to overtake and even more frustrating was that had the clutch not been slipping at all that car would have been way way quicker that at least these two cars and you never know maybe even the leaders.
By now I knew the problem was oil on the clutch due to the rear mail oil seal failing that meant a hugely disappointing game over for the day.
On a plus side thanks to Jaydee the car now runs cleanly and at last properly, plus I can now get the car around all around the Corram complex thanks to the downforce from the rear wing and best of all I know that there is a lot of speed to come from the car overall.
As I said to Jaydee on the way home, yes real chocked to have had the car side-lined for such a stupid problem but I would rather work through these problems with a car that should eventually prove to be competitive rather than a super reliable car that floundering around at the back of the grid !!!
Next outing will be the track day on the 5th of December at Brands and you can imagine, with the clutch sorted plus an engine that now performs how it should I am really looking forward to its next outing---- see you there
p.s. video to follow
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
You got fastest lap in class Clive with a slipping clutch!! defo very positive despite dnf!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 02, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
Post by: clive on November 02, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
Quote from: boosted;883782You got fastest lap in class Clive with a slipping clutch!! defo very positive despite dnf!
Didn\'t know that , well spotted :chat
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2014, 09:52:31 AM
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2014, 09:52:31 AM
Lot\'s of positives there Clive :yes
Pity you had another issue to stop you racing, but at least it proves the power issue is sorted now :mmmm
Pity you had another issue to stop you racing, but at least it proves the power issue is sorted now :mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 02, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
Post by: clive on November 02, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
Here we go a Video :driving.
You can actually hear me playing with the throttle all the way through trying to get a clutch to grip---------- soooooooooooo frustrating that I had to wait till half way down the straights to see it then accelerate up to less powerful cars, let alone the pain of no clutch grip off the corners.
Even had to feather out the throttle because 5th pulls so much torque that the clutch would not grip at all!
Malcolm feel free to dump this post and put this link up properly:Hammer - (edited by Malcolm :Thumbs-up video now embedded for easier viewing :)
Huge Thanks go to Philip (Prototype) for filming and editing
BTW the little Suzuki Swift in the last picture and the video is a real sleeper as it looks like a little road saloon, however it weighs as much as a paper bag, sports a big turbo and holds the outright lap record at Snetterton !
You can actually hear me playing with the throttle all the way through trying to get a clutch to grip---------- soooooooooooo frustrating that I had to wait till half way down the straights to see it then accelerate up to less powerful cars, let alone the pain of no clutch grip off the corners.
Even had to feather out the throttle because 5th pulls so much torque that the clutch would not grip at all!
Malcolm feel free to dump this post and put this link up properly:Hammer - (edited by Malcolm :Thumbs-up video now embedded for easier viewing :)
Huge Thanks go to Philip (Prototype) for filming and editing
BTW the little Suzuki Swift in the last picture and the video is a real sleeper as it looks like a little road saloon, however it weighs as much as a paper bag, sports a big turbo and holds the outright lap record at Snetterton !
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Great Clive .....its like the cars on a piece of elastic!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mir on November 02, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
Post by: Mir on November 02, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
Clive, I enjoyed the video. The turbo spools up really quick. By judging the video, I can safely say that, Jaydee is by far one of the skilled mapper out there!
Its a nicely put together car. Looking forward to more videos.
Cheers
Mir
Its a nicely put together car. Looking forward to more videos.
Cheers
Mir
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 04, 2014, 11:02:31 AM
Post by: re japi on November 04, 2014, 11:02:31 AM
Very good video, good job! :)
All fresly built cars have minor and stupid problems. But when they start to work, all to hard work pays off.
And car sound amazing, turbo spools up fast, and she spits fire :) Seems like she has really nice torque band
Few questions thought: Why she has original steeringwheel? And why your racesuit is blue, not yellow? ;)
All fresly built cars have minor and stupid problems. But when they start to work, all to hard work pays off.
And car sound amazing, turbo spools up fast, and she spits fire :) Seems like she has really nice torque band
Few questions thought: Why she has original steeringwheel? And why your racesuit is blue, not yellow? ;)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on November 04, 2014, 11:50:34 AM
Post by: Kodiak on November 04, 2014, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: re japi;883850...why your racesuit is blue, not yellow? ;)
lol!
:god
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 04, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Here we go, here\'s an outside video in wet n slippery qualifying plus a couple of pics
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
Great to see and hear the car running from trackside. Looks and sounds awesome Clive :mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
Post by: Casey on November 04, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
Great to see and hear the car running from trackside. Looks and sounds awesome Clive :mmmm
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 04, 2014, 08:04:32 PM
Have to agree with casey. And your attempts at drying the track was a great idea.:Laugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on November 05, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: C J R on November 05, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
Ha ha, not content with \'frying\' any competitors that tried to overtake with your side exit single exhaust, your now trying to stop twice as many competitors with dual flame throwers !!!
Gutted for you regarding the frustrating clutch slip, but happy the engine mapping is starting to show you were on the right track all along with this \'novel\' configuration (engine/turbo/ecu(s), chassis).
So that\'s another development year almost over, lets look forward to 2015 and a full race calendar. :3gears-lh
Chris (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif)
Gutted for you regarding the frustrating clutch slip, but happy the engine mapping is starting to show you were on the right track all along with this \'novel\' configuration (engine/turbo/ecu(s), chassis).
So that\'s another development year almost over, lets look forward to 2015 and a full race calendar. :3gears-lh
Chris (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 05, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
Desperate to race, a different driving position was suggested :Hammer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-nI6zoPgeA&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-nI6zoPgeA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2014, 12:52:18 PM
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2014, 12:52:18 PM
Bit more yellow on that race suit!
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on November 05, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Post by: shaunwil on November 05, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Its hard getting that position, more fun trying to get out of it !
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 05, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;883890Its hard getting that position, more fun trying to get out of it !
Shaun
Ahhh, I had a secret weapon, Jim lifted me out :Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Will66 on November 11, 2014, 07:02:33 PM
Post by: Will66 on November 11, 2014, 07:02:33 PM
Clive, this is the stuff that makes removing sound deadening much quicker! (http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-4087.htm?nodeid=8802628927489)
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 11, 2014, 09:19:40 PM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2014, 09:19:40 PM
Thanks Will, that will be much easier than a blow lamp a wire brush and burn skin when the hot goo spits at you :Nono!
I will now try and get that sound deadening out of the boot floor and foot wells to save some weight over the winter :Thumbs-up
I will now try and get that sound deadening out of the boot floor and foot wells to save some weight over the winter :Thumbs-up
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on November 11, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 11, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
The pair of you will be leaving your socks and underwear off and cutting your toe nails next to save more weight. :Laugh
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 11, 2014, 10:29:45 PM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2014, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: rote8;883995The pair of you will be leaving your socks and underwear off and cutting your toe nails next to save more weight. :Laugh
Ahh, now there\'s an idea and its cheap :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on November 11, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
Post by: shaunwil on November 11, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
I used Dry Ice for mine, amazing the speed it gets rid of the sound proofing. Trouble is it sublaments by 50% per day so you have to use it on the day and drive home with the car windows open so you don\'t suffocate !
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2014, 04:17:55 AM
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2014, 04:17:55 AM
It was really a head pain to get that goo out of FB. :( But it really save weight when you get it of. Quite heavy stuff actually...
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
I must have removed 30kg of sound deadening out of the rx4 so it\'s defo worth doing Clive. I removed mine in the winter so a hammer and chisel took it off as it was freezing.
Dry ice and a freezing winter day will get it off easy. Make sure you have a heavy hammer though, as the bigger the hammer the better. This applies to all things
Dry ice and a freezing winter day will get it off easy. Make sure you have a heavy hammer though, as the bigger the hammer the better. This applies to all things
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 12, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 12, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;884026Make sure you have a heavy hammer though, as the bigger the hammer the better. This applies to all things
Always :Giggle:Giggle:Giggle
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on November 12, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Post by: shaunwil on November 12, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Good old engineering phrase "If it doesn\'t fit you just haven\'t got a big enough hammer"
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Oliver on November 13, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
Post by: Oliver on November 13, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
Good stuff Clive. Shame about the slipping clutch...you will definitely be a front runner :)
Looking forward to hear how you finish in December...give it gas!
Looking forward to hear how you finish in December...give it gas!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 30, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
Post by: clive on November 30, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
:) As your going to see below we are up n running again thanks to help from a couple of friends in the shape of Philip with the loan of his workshop plus a hand and my old mate Steve who is a qualified tool maker (machinist) who dropped everything to help.
I ordered in a face plate and centre floater plate from Quartermaster via Mazdatrix to go with the spare drive plates I already had, as I expected the clutch to be toast, and it was :-[ (nothing is straight forward with this car :-\)
With the new oil seal installed plus pilot bearing and a check of the rear stationary gear bearing which was perfect and just run in the flywheel was refitted only to find the face plate that sits in the alloy flywheel was machined wrong and distorted meaning the pressure plate would not fit and as you can see I couldn't put the old one back as it was blue from the heat of the oily slipping clutch :( :( :( thankfully with some clever machining Steve sorted the new plate and we are all back together :)
This means that one year on from its slow debut at Brands Hatch that finally at Brands Hatch on Friday I should be able to put the car through its paces to find out what I really have ;D.
I know some have asked about a passenger ride but sorry there's no seat and I hope all being well to get a full days seat time in to learn the car now we have some proper power and handling which means that all this time on and with a lot of help from a lot of people I should start to be able to look at the lap times it should be setting providing its dry :o.
Below is a little video from Philip, checking the clutch operation, Wow it hits the rev limiter so so quick !
Mod: Video now embedded :)
I ordered in a face plate and centre floater plate from Quartermaster via Mazdatrix to go with the spare drive plates I already had, as I expected the clutch to be toast, and it was :-[ (nothing is straight forward with this car :-\)
With the new oil seal installed plus pilot bearing and a check of the rear stationary gear bearing which was perfect and just run in the flywheel was refitted only to find the face plate that sits in the alloy flywheel was machined wrong and distorted meaning the pressure plate would not fit and as you can see I couldn't put the old one back as it was blue from the heat of the oily slipping clutch :( :( :( thankfully with some clever machining Steve sorted the new plate and we are all back together :)
This means that one year on from its slow debut at Brands Hatch that finally at Brands Hatch on Friday I should be able to put the car through its paces to find out what I really have ;D.
I know some have asked about a passenger ride but sorry there's no seat and I hope all being well to get a full days seat time in to learn the car now we have some proper power and handling which means that all this time on and with a lot of help from a lot of people I should start to be able to look at the lap times it should be setting providing its dry :o.
Below is a little video from Philip, checking the clutch operation, Wow it hits the rev limiter so so quick !
Mod: Video now embedded :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2014, 04:16:11 AM
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2014, 04:16:11 AM
SHE SOUNDS AWESOME!!!!! :P
Btw, is she really street legal?
Oh, and I want to report admins about this video. It caused funny and fussy feelings! ;) ;D (just joking)
Btw, is she really street legal?
Oh, and I want to report admins about this video. It caused funny and fussy feelings! ;) ;D (just joking)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 01, 2014, 04:54:58 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 01, 2014, 04:54:58 AM
One of the best sounds iv heard for a long time
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 01, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
Post by: clive on December 01, 2014, 08:21:52 AM
Sorry about that nasty noise that keeps us as addicts ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: shaunwil on December 01, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
Post by: shaunwil on December 01, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
Roll on the new year :D
Shaun
Shaun
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 09:23:22 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 09:23:22 AM
How did it go at brands??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on December 06, 2014, 09:33:34 AM
Post by: seanp on December 06, 2014, 09:33:34 AM
Sounds like he had another, unusual run of bad luck, with an unusual fluid leak! :-(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 06, 2014, 10:05:33 AM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2014, 10:05:33 AM
Another bad day, game over, front plate cracked near the oil feed
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 10:29:15 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 10:29:15 AM
Oh no!! Seen a car on rx7club suffer this. Wrong fitting used and over tightened, and also suffered from det??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Mir on December 06, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
Post by: Mir on December 06, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
Sorry to hear this! A guy called "mannykiller" on an Rx7 club (US) had a same problem. if possible please read his thread. Its not a big problem. Just change the front plate without opening the entire engine up!
Since your car has Carl's apex seals, it would be good to know what condition are they after all that hard driving.
We learnt from you this statement, "on wards and upwards".
Hoping to see you soon.
Since your car has Carl's apex seals, it would be good to know what condition are they after all that hard driving.
We learnt from you this statement, "on wards and upwards".
Hoping to see you soon.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
oh no sorry to hear this :(....so engine front plate cracked...but what was the cause?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 11:19:15 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 11:19:15 AM
Clive can you log data whilst you drive?? That would be a great advantage whilst teething the car
Just seen something on FB, so one using an FD engine, in an rx8 using an adaptor if and keeping everything on the car working:)
Just seen something on FB, so one using an FD engine, in an rx8 using an adaptor if and keeping everything on the car working:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2014, 01:45:23 PM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2014, 01:45:23 PM
Ah crap... Sorry to hear that. Hopefully there is no other damage...?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 06, 2014, 05:20:15 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2014, 05:20:15 PM
As Sied says --- onward and upward ------- after all the abuse this poor engine has gone through with wiring faults etc etc the time has come to use another engine from scratch, huge thanks to Carl though for getting me an engine to get me up n running, that lived through so much when a lesser engine would have let go.
Sied, thank you for looking around for me but a friend searched around last night and found from US forums that somhow the front plate has twisted up against a dowel to cause this, yes I could take a chance and just change the plate but the whole engine needs to come apart to check it anyway.
I have had a donation of a bone stock engine from a very kind guy up north who is not on the forum that will form the basis of my new engine.
Grant, no not data logging, maybe something to think about for the future also do you have a Face book link for the RX-8 thing ?
Sied, thank you for looking around for me but a friend searched around last night and found from US forums that somhow the front plate has twisted up against a dowel to cause this, yes I could take a chance and just change the plate but the whole engine needs to come apart to check it anyway.
I have had a donation of a bone stock engine from a very kind guy up north who is not on the forum that will form the basis of my new engine.
Grant, no not data logging, maybe something to think about for the future also do you have a Face book link for the RX-8 thing ?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
Try this to the FB page
https://m.facebook.com/LuckySevenRacing/photos/a.431768706891382.97611.137419512992971/739006599500923/?type=1
https://m.facebook.com/LuckySevenRacing/photos/a.431768706891382.97611.137419512992971/739006599500923/?type=1
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 07:51:30 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 07:51:30 AM
They have git running now, everything working
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
What causes a front plate to crack? Detonation?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
Think of it this way, how much force would you have to apply to break a front plate by hand??:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 11:30:46 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 11:30:46 AM
...........................about 400bhp?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
thing is symptom and cause! and realizing which 1 and prevention measures.
This engine has taken a lot of abuse to get where it is so accumulation of all the events has weakened or 1 event that has lead to this failure
so what im trying to say is if another bare bones engine is built up what measures can be taken to stop this happening again and is/was 1 event or the result of the process of getting there!
This engine has taken a lot of abuse to get where it is so accumulation of all the events has weakened or 1 event that has lead to this failure
so what im trying to say is if another bare bones engine is built up what measures can be taken to stop this happening again and is/was 1 event or the result of the process of getting there!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:07:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:07:44 PM
It can be many things. I wouldn't point the finger at anyone causing it like some others would.
I would say its accumulative of all the things, and probably det, as it's takes a lot of force to crack a plate.
All the development on this engine will prevent it happening again, maybe a few hours dyno time too, as Clive's the right man on the job for mapping.
As I met James willday this week down in leicester and he told me what Jay and kerim did a few years back to develop their knowledge of rotors:) junking engines to see how far to go with porting and also how much boost and timing on pump fuel they could throw at an engine before it went bang
1.8bar on pump fuel I was told....
So I'm sure next season the motor will be on point.
Another thing that can be done is dowelling and also a 1/2 steel plate sandwiched between the sump and engine to stop twisting but I doubt Clive will make that amount of power to need that
I would say its accumulative of all the things, and probably det, as it's takes a lot of force to crack a plate.
All the development on this engine will prevent it happening again, maybe a few hours dyno time too, as Clive's the right man on the job for mapping.
As I met James willday this week down in leicester and he told me what Jay and kerim did a few years back to develop their knowledge of rotors:) junking engines to see how far to go with porting and also how much boost and timing on pump fuel they could throw at an engine before it went bang
1.8bar on pump fuel I was told....
So I'm sure next season the motor will be on point.
Another thing that can be done is dowelling and also a 1/2 steel plate sandwiched between the sump and engine to stop twisting but I doubt Clive will make that amount of power to need that
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:35:23 PM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:35:23 PM
1.8 bar...jezzzus!
Cool think ill stick with NA!
Cool think ill stick with NA!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:37:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:37:16 PM
If you want to beat the rest then turbo is the only way
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:45:40 PM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:45:40 PM
lol! 4 rotor na!
but you'll say 4 rotor turbo'd!
2015 gotta be the year for Clive! so much hard work !
but you'll say 4 rotor turbo'd!
2015 gotta be the year for Clive! so much hard work !
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:46:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:46:47 PM
Mad mikes 4 rotor twin turbo. 900-1500 HP jahahhahaha
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 12:46:47 PM
Mad mikes 4 rotor twin turbo. 900-1500 HP jahahhahaha
that thing is insane! ;D 8) ::)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
Mad mikes 4 rotor twin turbo. 900-1500 HP jahahhahaha
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
Post by: Casey on December 07, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
A video clip of Clive's car at Brands Hatch on 5th December, about a hour before "oilgate";
No sound on the first part :confused5:
To see the best view, select "Full Screen" version "(click "cross" bottom right) then play the video and use the "gearwheel" to select the 1080p version.
No sound on the first part :confused5:
To see the best view, select "Full Screen" version "(click "cross" bottom right) then play the video and use the "gearwheel" to select the 1080p version.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Thanks, will have a look in a min:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 07, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
Thanks, will have a look in a min:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 08, 2014, 07:52:25 PM
Post by: clive on December 08, 2014, 07:52:25 PM
Sort of a test to post pictures,
Here's the picture from my sad oily Friday :eek:
Here's the picture from my sad oily Friday :eek:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
Oh dear :( what do you think caused it?
What's the spec plans for the new motor??
What's the spec plans for the new motor??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 08, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
Post by: clive on December 08, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
Every trace on the internet I see leads to detonation, however this may have happened a long time ago as due to all the wiring etc etc issues we had again and again with the poor engine putting up with it seemingly, so it could be this casting was weakened a long way back and then with the oil pressure up behind it it had enough.
I do know 100% it was not due to over boosting, because tonight I have watched the video carefully and the needle was at a solid 15 lbs where it should have been when the oil appeared and in all previous videos of the day (I have every lap)
Not sure on the new spec but one things for sure is that the new engine will get 12mm Goopy oversize tension bolts.
I do know 100% it was not due to over boosting, because tonight I have watched the video carefully and the needle was at a solid 15 lbs where it should have been when the oil appeared and in all previous videos of the day (I have every lap)
Not sure on the new spec but one things for sure is that the new engine will get 12mm Goopy oversize tension bolts.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 01:06:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 01:06:29 PM
What did you do with the fuel system? Have you used the standard pumps to fill a swirl pot? And then a 044 too the engine? Using a FPR and a return line back to the swirl pot? As the rx8 has a return less fuel system?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 29, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
Post by: clive on December 29, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
There's pictures of the system back on page 38 http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=75841.510
Fuel system as follows,
Walbro 255 as the lift pump, swirl pot, then Bosch 044, separate 12V feeds, 1.1 rising rate fuel pressure regulator then a return pipe dumping straight back into the top of the fuel pot on the tank.
Fuel system as follows,
Walbro 255 as the lift pump, swirl pot, then Bosch 044, separate 12V feeds, 1.1 rising rate fuel pressure regulator then a return pipe dumping straight back into the top of the fuel pot on the tank.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
Did you run the lines underneath the car?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Did you run the lines underneath the car?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 29, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
What size lines did you run? AN-6?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
How much did the colt in cage cost you Clive?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 15, 2015, 11:28:42 AM
Post by: clive on February 15, 2015, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
How much did the colt in cage cost you Clive?
It was around a thousand by the time it was delivered and fitted perfectly,
Deliberatly went for a Safety Devices bolt in due to having no electric in me lock up where it was built plus it would let me get up n running fairly quick if it gets squashed
Next weekend I should have an active update of what is going on with the race car and exciting news about the forthcoming season for our Rotary world
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on February 15, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Post by: re japi on February 15, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
Cant wait! :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2015, 04:52:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2015, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: clive on February 15, 2015, 11:28:42 AMQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
How much did the colt in cage cost you Clive?
It was around a thousand by the time it was delivered and fitted perfectly,
Deliberatly went for a Safety Devices bolt in due to having no electric in me lock up where it was built plus it would let me get up n running fairly quick if it gets squashed
Next weekend I should have an active update of what is going on with the race car and exciting news about the forthcoming season for our Rotary world
I thought about 1,000 all in as I think I found them online. Did you go for the double door bars option? As that adds £250 onto the standard £700 for the bolt in cage?
The bolt in cage meets the race requirements then there's no need to go for the expense of a weld in cage as they are 1500 minimum plus extra time to send it off and get it installed/welded in.
However if you decided you want to get a weld in cage I will have your bolt in one;):)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2015, 04:53:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2015, 04:53:42 PM
What engine plates did carl use for your engine?
Just wondering as if it was a centre mounting plate then I would be interested in seeing the engine mounts you used/fabricated
Just wondering as if it was a centre mounting plate then I would be interested in seeing the engine mounts you used/fabricated
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 08, 2015, 09:11:46 PM
Post by: clive on March 08, 2015, 09:11:46 PM
I thought it time for an update about the new season.
Sadly we lost the engine last December at Brands, thanks go to Carl for last season’s sponsorship engine that let me initially develop the car.(the loss of the engine was nothing to do with the engine itself) .
Based on info gained last year, for this season we start with a new engine where not one part has been retained from last year including even a completely different clutch using Exedy’s latest version light flywheel.
Now running a monster primary and secondary ported, Goopy Apex sealed engine, put together by myself with Kerim of Powergains who will continue to sponsor the car through the 2015 season.
Over the weekend 200 miles was put on the car with no issues and it be interesting to see the way this engine produces power after Jaydee casts his wand over it.
Even started getting some of the more refined jobs carried out like an “in your face†oil gauge and “idot†lamp, next up will be a new under tray donated by Aston and the addition of a full size front splitter.
This season will become of much more interest to the Rotary community with Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster both now registered in the Super GT class which means we will all run head to head together with our different interpretations of Rotary.
This year I hope to attend all the rounds but Brands as Japfest clashes and I need to be there with MRC.
11/12 April Rockingham Confirmed
16/17 May Brands Hatch Confirmed
14 June Mallory Park Confirmed
18/19 July Cadwell Park Cofirmed
15/16 August Silverstone Confirmed
5 September Castle Combe Confirmed
3 October Oulton Park Confirmed
1 November Snetterton 300 Autumn Trophy Confirmed
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/clutch_zpskpx2lxai.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/clutch_zpskpx2lxai.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/new%20engine%20install_zpsvdrj8aek.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/new%20engine%20install_zpsvdrj8aek.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/RX-8%20New%20engine%20oil%20light_zpsdcfmzr9p.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/RX-8%20New%20engine%20oil%20light_zpsdcfmzr9p.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/RX-8%20New%20engine_zpsrqtiq6jb.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/RX-8%20New%20engine_zpsrqtiq6jb.jpg.html)
Sadly we lost the engine last December at Brands, thanks go to Carl for last season’s sponsorship engine that let me initially develop the car.(the loss of the engine was nothing to do with the engine itself) .
Based on info gained last year, for this season we start with a new engine where not one part has been retained from last year including even a completely different clutch using Exedy’s latest version light flywheel.
Now running a monster primary and secondary ported, Goopy Apex sealed engine, put together by myself with Kerim of Powergains who will continue to sponsor the car through the 2015 season.
Over the weekend 200 miles was put on the car with no issues and it be interesting to see the way this engine produces power after Jaydee casts his wand over it.
Even started getting some of the more refined jobs carried out like an “in your face†oil gauge and “idot†lamp, next up will be a new under tray donated by Aston and the addition of a full size front splitter.
This season will become of much more interest to the Rotary community with Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster both now registered in the Super GT class which means we will all run head to head together with our different interpretations of Rotary.
This year I hope to attend all the rounds but Brands as Japfest clashes and I need to be there with MRC.
11/12 April Rockingham Confirmed
16/17 May Brands Hatch Confirmed
14 June Mallory Park Confirmed
18/19 July Cadwell Park Cofirmed
15/16 August Silverstone Confirmed
5 September Castle Combe Confirmed
3 October Oulton Park Confirmed
1 November Snetterton 300 Autumn Trophy Confirmed
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/clutch_zpskpx2lxai.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/clutch_zpskpx2lxai.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/new%20engine%20install_zpsvdrj8aek.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/new%20engine%20install_zpsvdrj8aek.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/RX-8%20New%20engine%20oil%20light_zpsdcfmzr9p.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/RX-8%20New%20engine%20oil%20light_zpsdcfmzr9p.jpg.html)
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag319/lisad3010/RX-8%20New%20engine_zpsrqtiq6jb.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/lisad3010/media/RX-8%20New%20engine_zpsrqtiq6jb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on March 08, 2015, 09:19:10 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 08, 2015, 09:19:10 PM
As I said before just epic
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on March 08, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
Post by: C J R on March 08, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
Great news Clive.
Looking forward to seeing you having some competitive time in this car in 2015 :)
Looking forward to seeing you having some competitive time in this car in 2015 :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Great update clive:):):):):D I will be coming too at least one of your races this season.
Am I reading correctly that you have monster ported it?? As in a monster bridge port?? If so that's just amazing!
Am I reading correctly that you have monster ported it?? As in a monster bridge port?? If so that's just amazing!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 08, 2015, 09:49:35 PM
Post by: boosted on March 08, 2015, 09:49:35 PM
Yep great news. Good luck.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 08, 2015, 11:21:35 PM
Post by: clive on March 08, 2015, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Am I reading correctly that you have monster ported it?? As in a monster bridge port?? If so that's just amazing!
Thanks guys,
Deliberatly no bridge this time Grant, but very big primary's and secondary's though like I have never seen, obviously as it was Kerims design he didn't want pictures taken.
Don't forget I'm not looking for two zillion bhp, just good linier power all the way through
Exhaust note is very different, very raspy with a sound something like a pre turbo F1 car, tried to video exhaust note but I failed miserably
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 09, 2015, 04:52:06 AM
Post by: re japi on March 09, 2015, 04:52:06 AM
Looking good! :)
Yes, first year is always training and learning. Hopefully this year is better. Good luck :)
Yes, first year is always training and learning. Hopefully this year is better. Good luck :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: clive on March 08, 2015, 11:21:35 PMAh you just confused me when you said monster and I got all excited!!Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Am I reading correctly that you have monster ported it?? As in a monster bridge port?? If so that's just amazing!
Thanks guys,
Deliberatly no bridge this time Grant, but very big primary's and secondary's though like I have never seen, obviously as it was Kerims design he didn't want pictures taken.
Don't forget I'm not looking for two zillion bhp, just good linier power all the way through
Exhaust note is very different, very raspy with a sound something like a pre turbo F1 car, tried to video exhaust note but I failed miserably
A big street port it is then. Should be good with a nice bit off extra added boost in there:)
I do find it funny how no one in this country likes to show their ports? I mean it's not as if it's a big secret that makes people millions of pounds is it? Looking forward to coming along to support Clive, will hopefull bring along my dad, my gf and my son at least:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Clive if you use your phone to record the sound of the car cup your hand around the speaker/microphone of your phone. So as your blocking the sound that's blasting into it directly, I do that and it gives a much clearer sound rather being a distorted mess
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 23, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 23, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
Are they not racing at donnington park this year??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 24, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Post by: clive on March 24, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
11 April Rockingham Confirmed
16/17 May Brands Hatch Confirmed
14 June Mallory Park Confirmed
18/19 July Cadwell Park Cofirmed
15/16 August Silverstone Confirmed
5 September Castle Combe Confirmed
3 October Oulton Park Confirmed
1 November Snetterton 300 Autumn Trophy Confirmed
Your right Grant no Donnington, real shame, I like Donnington :(
16/17 May Brands Hatch Confirmed
14 June Mallory Park Confirmed
18/19 July Cadwell Park Cofirmed
15/16 August Silverstone Confirmed
5 September Castle Combe Confirmed
3 October Oulton Park Confirmed
1 November Snetterton 300 Autumn Trophy Confirmed
Your right Grant no Donnington, real shame, I like Donnington :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
Shame about Donington :(
I've put alll the rest of the dates in my diary and hope to make it to at least some of the races :13:
I've put alll the rest of the dates in my diary and hope to make it to at least some of the races :13:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2015, 03:58:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2015, 03:58:17 PM
I wonder if they're doing more work at donnington as there had been a lot of earth moved when we came down last time?
I will make it to oulton park for sure and maybe 2 others, just depends on what I have on around those times
I will make it to oulton park for sure and maybe 2 others, just depends on what I have on around those times
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 25, 2015, 08:44:03 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2015, 08:44:03 PM
It will be good to see you as always Grant,
Well after two years of pain we finally have great news ---------------------a fully mapped running correctly race car with power so linier that it's like driving a normally aspirated RX-8 :0012397:
It you couldn't hear that big GT40 Turbo whistling you wouldn't even know it had a Turbo fitted, all due to the amazing porting that Kerim carried out and the mapping talents of Jaydee which means the engine pulls from very low down with even the slightest of boost pressure --------thank you Powergains
I can now book the first round at Rockingham on Saturday the 11th with a day's testing there the day before ---------can't wait to see if we now have a competitive package I can start developing
Well after two years of pain we finally have great news ---------------------a fully mapped running correctly race car with power so linier that it's like driving a normally aspirated RX-8 :0012397:
It you couldn't hear that big GT40 Turbo whistling you wouldn't even know it had a Turbo fitted, all due to the amazing porting that Kerim carried out and the mapping talents of Jaydee which means the engine pulls from very low down with even the slightest of boost pressure --------thank you Powergains
I can now book the first round at Rockingham on Saturday the 11th with a day's testing there the day before ---------can't wait to see if we now have a competitive package I can start developing
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 31, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
Post by: clive on March 31, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
Had the car on the Dyno yesterday how much power and where it produced power.
Finally I have the car producing horsepower exactly how I wanted it to when I started building the car.
Never wanted mental power just good linier usable power and you will see from the power graphs below we now have 373 BHP which is exactly the aimed for power .
Thanks go to Kerim for his great porting to give me NO Turbo lag and putting the engine together with me and Jaydee for patience to map the car keeping the DSC systems in place.
Thanks also go to the support from all of you guys here.
REW Engine bay and transmission spec is now the following/
Monster Street port (not Bridge or semi Bridge)
Garrett GT40 Turbo
Racing Beat lower “weber†manifold with custom upper manifold.
Ported RX-8 throttle body.
Two 850cc primary injectors
Two 1680cc secondary injectors
Walbro 255 pump inside stock RX-8 fuel tanks
Custom fuel pot feeding a Bosch 044 pump.
V mount Apexi intercooler with Koyo Rd and RX-8 fans
Exedy RX-8 lightweight steel flywheel
Clutchnet single single plate clutch
Standard 6 speed RX-8 gearbox
Standard RX-8 differential
Adaptronic ECU feeding through RX-8 ECU
Standard Mazda RX-8 ignition coils
Finally I have the car producing horsepower exactly how I wanted it to when I started building the car.
Never wanted mental power just good linier usable power and you will see from the power graphs below we now have 373 BHP which is exactly the aimed for power .
Thanks go to Kerim for his great porting to give me NO Turbo lag and putting the engine together with me and Jaydee for patience to map the car keeping the DSC systems in place.
Thanks also go to the support from all of you guys here.
REW Engine bay and transmission spec is now the following/
Monster Street port (not Bridge or semi Bridge)
Garrett GT40 Turbo
Racing Beat lower “weber†manifold with custom upper manifold.
Ported RX-8 throttle body.
Two 850cc primary injectors
Two 1680cc secondary injectors
Walbro 255 pump inside stock RX-8 fuel tanks
Custom fuel pot feeding a Bosch 044 pump.
V mount Apexi intercooler with Koyo Rd and RX-8 fans
Exedy RX-8 lightweight steel flywheel
Clutchnet single single plate clutch
Standard 6 speed RX-8 gearbox
Standard RX-8 differential
Adaptronic ECU feeding through RX-8 ECU
Standard Mazda RX-8 ignition coils
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on March 31, 2015, 10:09:04 PM
Post by: rote8 on March 31, 2015, 10:09:04 PM
Have already replied over on RX8OC, but this is something we all wanted to see, a genuine one off and something a bit special, well done to all involved. Go racing Clive. All the best for the coming race season I am not in the least envious.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2015, 12:17:31 AM
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2015, 12:17:31 AM
Let's hope after all last year's development issues, things have finally come together so that you can finally go out there and enjoy competing on track. I'm looking forward to seeing you race this season :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on April 01, 2015, 01:18:06 AM
Post by: seanp on April 01, 2015, 01:18:06 AM
Great news Clive. Sounds like a well developed car, with usable power - and a surprising amount of 'stockiness' :)
Hopefully your ironed out all the gremlins and can concentrate on getting the results you deserve, rather than a constant stream of issues.
I hope to make it along to a few of your races this year.
Best of luck! :)
Hopefully your ironed out all the gremlins and can concentrate on getting the results you deserve, rather than a constant stream of issues.
I hope to make it along to a few of your races this year.
Best of luck! :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 01, 2015, 04:18:10 AM
Post by: re japi on April 01, 2015, 04:18:10 AM
Great news. :)
Engine spec is really interesting. :bravo_2: And because of those electrics, I cant imagine how difficult this swap has been.
But I have to ask, why you choose light weight flywheel? I imagine that normal would be better for that kind of car. Would be interesting to see differences between them...
Engine spec is really interesting. :bravo_2: And because of those electrics, I cant imagine how difficult this swap has been.
But I have to ask, why you choose light weight flywheel? I imagine that normal would be better for that kind of car. Would be interesting to see differences between them...
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
Woohoo! Epic commitment! I salute you sir Felix Wankel would surely make you 1 of his disciples !
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2015, 11:55:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2015, 11:55:23 AM
Light flywheel allows the car to rev faster surely?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2015, 11:56:36 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2015, 11:56:36 AM
Is 10psi enough to compete with those two monstrous nissans from last year Clive?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on April 01, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
Post by: C J R on April 01, 2015, 12:34:31 PM
Brilliant news...well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on April 01, 2015, 01:02:52 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on April 01, 2015, 01:02:52 PM
Good luck for the season ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 01, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: clive on April 01, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Thanks Guys,
Grant we will have to wait and see, excellent thing about the car is we can find more if needed,
I will know so much more after next week, just need a nice reliable event then we can go from there.
Grant we will have to wait and see, excellent thing about the car is we can find more if needed,
I will know so much more after next week, just need a nice reliable event then we can go from there.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2015, 09:06:27 PM
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2015, 09:06:27 PM
When you get a schedule for the 11th at Rockingham Clive, can you post details up here, or a link please? I will try and get along if I possibly can :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 01, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Post by: clive on April 01, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
There is a link somewhere , I will try and find it in the morning
I am booked and paid for the test session on the Friday and will post if I have any issues to save anyone. The trip
Not meaning to sound negative but I only going to be 100% ok till I finally hit the track for real on the Friday
I am booked and paid for the test session on the Friday and will post if I have any issues to save anyone. The trip
Not meaning to sound negative but I only going to be 100% ok till I finally hit the track for real on the Friday
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
Looks like this is the (provisional) timetable for Rockingham this Saturday;
http://www.rockingham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/provtimetable.pdf (http://www.rockingham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/provtimetable.pdf)
http://www.rockingham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/provtimetable.pdf (http://www.rockingham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/provtimetable.pdf)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Lisa on April 09, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
Post by: Lisa on April 09, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
Thanks Malcolm
Clive, Phil & Paul will be racing in the Nippon Challenge at 11.45 and then again at 15.50pm
Clive, Phil & Paul will be racing in the Nippon Challenge at 11.45 and then again at 15.50pm
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2015, 10:09:29 PM
Post by: Casey on April 09, 2015, 10:09:29 PM
I'm still hoping to make it up there :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 10, 2015, 08:02:43 PM
Post by: boosted on April 10, 2015, 08:02:43 PM
Good luck for tommorow!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Lisa on April 10, 2015, 08:26:36 PM
Post by: Lisa on April 10, 2015, 08:26:36 PM
Post from Casey:-
:'( :'( :'( Just had a call from Clive.... :(
Car was going well in test session at Rockingham today. He ran several sessions in the morning, including one at race distance. Clive had been tuning the suspension to suit the track and all was going well. This afternoon the car developed a problem, such that he will not be competing tomorrow. I won't go into any details, as I'm sure Clive will post up later.
Just wanted to make sure anyone thinking of going tomorrow is aware that Clive won't be there - he's on his way home now.
Paul Buckmaster and Phil Collard in their RX-7's are still expecting to compete though.
Really feeling sorry for Clive :'(
:'( :'( :'( Just had a call from Clive.... :(
Car was going well in test session at Rockingham today. He ran several sessions in the morning, including one at race distance. Clive had been tuning the suspension to suit the track and all was going well. This afternoon the car developed a problem, such that he will not be competing tomorrow. I won't go into any details, as I'm sure Clive will post up later.
Just wanted to make sure anyone thinking of going tomorrow is aware that Clive won't be there - he's on his way home now.
Paul Buckmaster and Phil Collard in their RX-7's are still expecting to compete though.
Really feeling sorry for Clive :'(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on April 11, 2015, 12:10:09 AM
Post by: C J R on April 11, 2015, 12:10:09 AM
:( Oh nooooo. Hope its a minor problem.
Chris
Chris
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
:( bad news. Yes, hopefully its just a little proplem
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 08:52:02 AM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 08:52:02 AM
Oh no. Hoping summit minor .
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
Real sad we could not make race day as I put in 30 laps in three sessions and was just getting to grips with the thing with a best of 1.37.373 which should have put me in the thick of things today with the lap times I have seen .
The exhaust note changed very sightly and with the luck I have has so far I decided to pull the engine out today and from what I can see it looks like Goopy Apex seals have saved the engine as it looks like one has just rolled over slightly.
Time permitting and hopefully no damage when its opened should see the car out at Japfest with some Aero changes and running properly, Grrrr and we was so near.
On a much brighter note for Rotary's the RX-7 FD's of Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster have both finished their first Nippon race in 4th and 13th out of a 27 car grid
The exhaust note changed very sightly and with the luck I have has so far I decided to pull the engine out today and from what I can see it looks like Goopy Apex seals have saved the engine as it looks like one has just rolled over slightly.
Time permitting and hopefully no damage when its opened should see the car out at Japfest with some Aero changes and running properly, Grrrr and we was so near.
On a much brighter note for Rotary's the RX-7 FD's of Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster have both finished their first Nippon race in 4th and 13th out of a 27 car grid
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Really really bad new. Lets just hope that internals are not damaged...
"what I can see it looks like Goopy Apex seals have saved the engine as it looks like one has just rolled over slightly."
Umm, I dont thing that I understand that...?
"what I can see it looks like Goopy Apex seals have saved the engine as it looks like one has just rolled over slightly."
Umm, I dont thing that I understand that...?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 05:48:34 PM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 05:48:34 PM
Quote from: re japi on April 11, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
"what I can see it looks like Goopy Apex seals have saved the engine as it looks like one has just rolled over slightly."
Umm, I dont thing that I understand that...?
A stock Apex seal will shatter if you have any sort of detonation problem through fuelling, ignition timing etc however Goopys will just bend out the way which should always save other damage happening to housings Turbo's etc.
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 06:38:26 PM
Post by: re japi on April 11, 2015, 06:38:26 PM
Oh, I see :) Thanks
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
Have you had chance to look at the afr's yet Clive.
Just 1. Aint the engine build fact
And 2 Aint the mapping fact.
Something else is going on been racking my brain 1 thing that pops in my head is the traction control system ...is this screwing with map?
Just 1. Aint the engine build fact
And 2 Aint the mapping fact.
Something else is going on been racking my brain 1 thing that pops in my head is the traction control system ...is this screwing with map?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 11, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
Something else is going on been racking my brain 1 thing that pops in my head is the traction control system ...is this screwing with map?
Thanks for having a think Jon, however we think we know the problem
On the rolling road the run was too long which let the engine lean out !!!!
For the traction control,
I may be wrong but as far as I am aware Traction control will just close up the throttle , but that aside the chassis system is separated by the Aaptronic so the fueling and ignition tables are separate from the stock ECU
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 08:42:35 PM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2015, 08:42:35 PM
Ok bud just thinking.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Arnie_O on April 12, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
Post by: Arnie_O on April 12, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
The fueling and ignition timing etc is run by the Adaptronic however the stock ECU takes care of the throttle body operation and Traction Control as they are inherently linked.
Can't see how the TC should effect the fueling maps
Can't see how the TC should effect the fueling maps
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
Can Adaptronic learn and adapt? Or does it just use given parameters?
Clive, any news yet? :/
Clive, any news yet? :/
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 12, 2015, 08:18:51 PM
Post by: clive on April 12, 2015, 08:18:51 PM
The ADaptronic acts as a stand alone as regards fueling timing etc just to control the engine management leaving the stock ECU to take care of all the chassis functions
Won't be any news till later in the week, hoping to drop the engine back in next weekend
Already I'm on the back foot for the season so unless I can keep up the momentum on the car it will be yet another year lost
Won't be any news till later in the week, hoping to drop the engine back in next weekend
Already I'm on the back foot for the season so unless I can keep up the momentum on the car it will be yet another year lost
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2015, 08:24:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2015, 08:24:39 PM
Sad to hear this Clive but these things do happen whilst trying something not a lot of people have done before instead of the tried and tested method.
Hope you get it back together ASAP and start enjoying rubbing doors with the other rotaries out there in your series.
Slight tangent but me and my brother have been talking and were going to out my rotary and turbo setup In his tran am!!!! Going to be mental
Hope you get it back together ASAP and start enjoying rubbing doors with the other rotaries out there in your series.
Slight tangent but me and my brother have been talking and were going to out my rotary and turbo setup In his tran am!!!! Going to be mental
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 19, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
Post by: clive on April 19, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
Looks like we are up n running again, a broken side seal was the culprit with no damage to any faces and all the Goopy seals intact and refitted so no running in to do this time :) .
As tough as it was not to continue and race as it was only shown up by a slightly differing exhaust note on tick over, even still ticking over at the correct RPM, pulling it apart was the right thing to do.
Next outing proper will be Mallory Park as I'm missing Brands to be at Japfest with the club on the same day but at least I get to test before the Nippon round there later in the year.
Grant, am I ready correctly, a Rotary Transam ?
As tough as it was not to continue and race as it was only shown up by a slightly differing exhaust note on tick over, even still ticking over at the correct RPM, pulling it apart was the right thing to do.
Next outing proper will be Mallory Park as I'm missing Brands to be at Japfest with the club on the same day but at least I get to test before the Nippon round there later in the year.
Grant, am I ready correctly, a Rotary Transam ?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 19, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 19, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
Yes you are Clive, I have everything to make the engine work and my brother has the car with an engine that needs rebuilding so were gonna build it together:);)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 19, 2015, 08:19:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 19, 2015, 08:19:25 PM
Glad the car and motor are back together. Now let's hope your good to go and run with your class.
I will get a thread going once we have done some work on the trans am but the basics of it makes sense.
Big 6.5litre cast iron v8 out.
Big heavy automatic torque converter out.
More powerful 2 rotor in
2rotor weighs nothing compared to the v8.
Light weight FD rx7 gear box going in.
Solid rear end already in the trans am = strong
Everyone puts v8s in rotary cars so why not put a rotary where a v8 once sat
I will get a thread going once we have done some work on the trans am but the basics of it makes sense.
Big 6.5litre cast iron v8 out.
Big heavy automatic torque converter out.
More powerful 2 rotor in
2rotor weighs nothing compared to the v8.
Light weight FD rx7 gear box going in.
Solid rear end already in the trans am = strong
Everyone puts v8s in rotary cars so why not put a rotary where a v8 once sat
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2015, 04:27:28 AM
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2015, 04:27:28 AM
Good to hear that there were no damages. Hopefully everything is now sorted.
Grant; So you are doing WHAT? :D
Grant; So you are doing WHAT? :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on April 20, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
Post by: C J R on April 20, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
Great news Clive. Still in awe that you noticed just from the exhaust note !!
Look forward to seeing it in action at Combe.
Chris
Look forward to seeing it in action at Combe.
Chris
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 17, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
Post by: clive on May 17, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
I have good news but not from me,
Congratulations to Phil Collard (Pukka) who has been trying to solve his car problems for a year longer than me !!!
This came to fruition at Brands yesterday with an overall win and a second place, well done Phil.
As for my car, over the last week we have made huge progress, sadly uncovering some fundamental mistakes, which is the price to pay for being the first to plumb the Adaptronic fully into an RX-8 chassis using an REW engine
Adaptronic are now working closely with me and we now have an excellent base map in the car based on a Bathhurst 12 hour RX-7's map ------------sadly we now know we lost a year plus engines with problems that have been uncovered by Adaptronic, now we are getting there "please let this be right"
Seriously, I had a good run in the car yesterday at Castle Coombe using a whole tank of fuel in two sessions at a reduced 7800 !!
Congratulations to Phil Collard (Pukka) who has been trying to solve his car problems for a year longer than me !!!
This came to fruition at Brands yesterday with an overall win and a second place, well done Phil.
As for my car, over the last week we have made huge progress, sadly uncovering some fundamental mistakes, which is the price to pay for being the first to plumb the Adaptronic fully into an RX-8 chassis using an REW engine
Adaptronic are now working closely with me and we now have an excellent base map in the car based on a Bathhurst 12 hour RX-7's map ------------sadly we now know we lost a year plus engines with problems that have been uncovered by Adaptronic, now we are getting there "please let this be right"
Seriously, I had a good run in the car yesterday at Castle Coombe using a whole tank of fuel in two sessions at a reduced 7800 !!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 18, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
Post by: boosted on May 18, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
Lap times at Combe i cant really help you as have no data myself but 1.21 pretty good! fresh set up for you with base map. im circa 400 bhp per tonne in Westory with slicks on and best i got last year was 1.19 really pushing. so think your ball park there....TSL timing may be able get more data.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2015, 07:44:05 PM
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2015, 07:44:05 PM
Had a look at tsl timing for the first race of this year versus last year and same cars last year where quicker by a couple of seconds so looks like tarmac got some rubbery in todo
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Lisa on May 20, 2015, 07:51:32 PM
Post by: Lisa on May 20, 2015, 07:51:32 PM
Thanks for having a look Jon, (whoops wrong log in)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 20, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
Post by: clive on May 20, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
Looked at the tyres today and from being very scrubbed in they are now super smooth, looking like I had just bolted them on
Chris CJR said to me that he was surprised to hear the way the tyres were squeeling -----------that'll be no grip then !!!!!!,
it's a very different track with the new Coombe surface :smiley_confused1:
Chris CJR said to me that he was surprised to hear the way the tyres were squeeling -----------that'll be no grip then !!!!!!,
it's a very different track with the new Coombe surface :smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
I checked my bridgestone on the s type that i took round and mine the same no wear at all.....bit sad but may have sold both the silver and blue 1. Silver poss going to axehammer on here and blue 1 off to France!. Its 6 mins in a car to my new job.....no good for an rx8!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: DaveCollins on May 22, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 22, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
I did a trackday at Combe in April and they mentioned in the briefing that the new tarmac was nosier and prone to make tyres squeal a bit easier than previous surface. I checked my times for old surface last October and new surface and they were fairly consistent at around 1.28 on clear laps. Sorry we did not make it along to Japfest as I would have loved to see the car going at last. Hopefully we will get to a race meeting sometime this year.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 22, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
Post by: clive on May 22, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
Real shame we didn't get to see Sally and yourself .
Really strange hearing tyre squeal , never heard it on the car before
Chris CJR commented on it as well,
Dave any idea how much slower the track is now, I would say 2 to 3 seconds ?
Really strange hearing tyre squeal , never heard it on the car before
Chris CJR commented on it as well,
Dave any idea how much slower the track is now, I would say 2 to 3 seconds ?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: DaveCollins on May 30, 2015, 01:47:37 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 30, 2015, 01:47:37 PM
Clive feedback I have had from staff at Castle Combe is that the track is expected to be quicker and they expect it will be even better for next year once it has had a summer's worth of heat cycle to fully cure the tarmac. I understand a new FF1600 lap record of 1:09 was set last Monday as compared to 1:12 at equivalent meeting last year. The fact that my times were consistent is probably more from the fact that I am not pushing car to the limit as the tyre walls always seem a bit close at places like Quarry and Tower and I would rather have fun than have an expensive repair bill. Was out at Goodwood on Thursday and that was much more fun as circuit really suits the GT.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 30, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
Thanks Dave,
Well I had better get my finger out next time then :)
Seriously, I was on reduced revs but will say that I am now puzzled why the tyres had no grip, as I said, never heard no grip tyre squeal on any track before with the car ???
Well I had better get my finger out next time then :)
Seriously, I was on reduced revs but will say that I am now puzzled why the tyres had no grip, as I said, never heard no grip tyre squeal on any track before with the car ???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 16, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 16, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
How does it go Clive? When's next race?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 16, 2015, 06:57:27 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 16, 2015, 06:57:27 AM
How does it go Clive? When's next race?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on July 08, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
Post by: Casey on July 08, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
Hi Grant - I've been taking a look at the dates so I can plan to get to some. The Nippon Challenge Series dates are here;
http://trackattackraceclub.com/pages/season-calendar.php?season_id=28 (http://trackattackraceclub.com/pages/season-calendar.php?season_id=28)
I can't make Cadwell in July, but have pencilled in to go to Silverstone on Sat, 15 Aug, so hope all will be well with Clive's car for that one at least!
http://trackattackraceclub.com/pages/season-calendar.php?season_id=28 (http://trackattackraceclub.com/pages/season-calendar.php?season_id=28)
I can't make Cadwell in July, but have pencilled in to go to Silverstone on Sat, 15 Aug, so hope all will be well with Clive's car for that one at least!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2015, 12:47:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2015, 12:47:57 PM
Silver stone sound like a good idea as it not that far from me. A couple hours drive. Hopefully Clive's car will be at 100% and he can stick it too the other guys
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 11, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
Post by: Casey on August 11, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
Clive, I can't remember if you said you were going to try to make it to Silverstone or not?
If you are, please confirm, especially if you have the schedule for the day, as I will come along to support :)
If you are, please confirm, especially if you have the schedule for the day, as I will come along to support :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 12, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
Post by: clive on August 12, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
Going for a final shake down to check how the new 5 speed gear box fairs etc at Brands next Wednesday evening,
As I have now missed so many I have decided to focus on going to the following round at Castle Coombe with Blyton shortly after.
As I have now missed so many I have decided to focus on going to the following round at Castle Coombe with Blyton shortly after.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2015, 08:20:34 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2015, 08:20:34 AM
Castle coombe too far for me:(:(:(
I hope the ignition coils have helped Clive:)
I hope the ignition coils have helped Clive:)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2015, 09:26:59 AM
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2015, 09:26:59 AM
Quote from: clive on August 12, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
Going for a final shake down to check how the new 5 speed gear box fairs etc at Brands next Wednesday evening,
As I have now missed so many I have decided to focus on going to the following round at Castle Coombe with Blyton shortly after.
Understood, I will see if I might be able to sneak down to Brands next Wed :)
I see that's an MSVT "General Car" trackday, with signing on at 15.30, tracktime from 17.30-20.00. Ideal for a shakedown, esp as so close to you.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Bucko on August 12, 2015, 09:40:02 AM
Post by: Bucko on August 12, 2015, 09:40:02 AM
Had to pull out of silverstone myself due to suspension damage ...poo
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Sorry to hear that Paul :(
Hope you can get it sorted for the next round :)
Hope you can get it sorted for the next round :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Kodiak on August 12, 2015, 01:38:59 PM
Post by: Kodiak on August 12, 2015, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: clive on August 12, 2015, 08:18:00 AM
Going for a final shake down to check how the new 5 speed gear box fairs etc at Brands next Wednesday evening,
As I have now missed so many I have decided to focus on going to the following round at Castle Coombe with Blyton shortly after.
Well at least you're not missing my local! I'll be there!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
By a strange coincidence ;) ;) ;), Gwyn and I will be staying at a hotel in Chippenham on the Friday night before the Castle Combe race. So, if you are racing there, we'll come and watch, support and take some pictures ;D
If you are not there, we shall drop back to doing some sightseeing around the area :)
If you are not there, we shall drop back to doing some sightseeing around the area :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Im away for combe which is a shame....ive seen lap times drop 2 to 3 secs now on tsl... track must be rubbered in on same cars as last year.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
That's a real shame Jon, was hoping to catch up with you :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 04:58:25 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 04:58:25 PM
Booked this holiday and realised race weekend with Nippon guys and Clive racing as well. Doh!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
I land on 5th Sept....see what time i get back though....what time is the 2nd race?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 26, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
Post by: clive on August 26, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
Well V hav good news and V have bad news!. (Allo Alo, you have to be a bit old to get that one)
After a most bizarre Brands track day yesterday I will be booking Castle Coombe for next Saturday, bad news is, as I was putting the car on the trailer the turbo made a funny noise spooling down so this morning it was stripped off and away to get some new bearings installed :(
As for the track day that I was just using for a quick check over I had the most people ever to throw themselves at the scenery than I have seen for many a year, all at Paddock hill ???.
First and third were harmless spins, second one was a decision to either turn the car to avoid and risk the car going sideways and slapping the car in the side or going straight out across the gravel trap (which worked ok )
Then the forth was a full on spin then rolling on the roof flattening exercise, all in the same place and in front of me, blimey I have heard of scaring them out of the way but that was ridiculous !
p.s. good to meet ( Lucky 7 from here) using his FD as intended :)
After a most bizarre Brands track day yesterday I will be booking Castle Coombe for next Saturday, bad news is, as I was putting the car on the trailer the turbo made a funny noise spooling down so this morning it was stripped off and away to get some new bearings installed :(
As for the track day that I was just using for a quick check over I had the most people ever to throw themselves at the scenery than I have seen for many a year, all at Paddock hill ???.
First and third were harmless spins, second one was a decision to either turn the car to avoid and risk the car going sideways and slapping the car in the side or going straight out across the gravel trap (which worked ok )
Then the forth was a full on spin then rolling on the roof flattening exercise, all in the same place and in front of me, blimey I have heard of scaring them out of the way but that was ridiculous !
p.s. good to meet ( Lucky 7 from here) using his FD as intended :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Has those coils helped?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2015, 09:49:31 AM
Wow, I'm glad you and the car escaped unscathed from those incidents without harm.
Blimey, this was a trackday evening, what's it going to be like when you are racing???
Blimey, this was a trackday evening, what's it going to be like when you are racing???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on August 27, 2015, 12:45:52 PM
Post by: C J R on August 27, 2015, 12:45:52 PM
Happy to hear testing went well (ish) and you can get some well needed seat time at Combe.
Chris
Chris
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2015, 01:39:36 PM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2015, 01:39:36 PM
Good luck at Combe! Hoping i make it!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
Timetable for the 5th is on combe Website 13.40 race 1 and 16.40 race 2....defo should be able to make race 2 ....
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2015, 05:10:09 PM
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2015, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: clive on August 26, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
.........I will be booking Castle Coombe for next Saturday.....
Well I never, by a strange coincidence, Gwyn and I will be in the area that day ;), so we'll certainly pop over to the track at some point. I'll try and persuade Gwyn to leave the hotel in time to see qualifying, but if not we'll at least get there for the first or second race.
For anyone who might want to drop by, here is the schedule for the day;
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73704714/MRC/sep15racetimetablev2.pdf (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73704714/MRC/sep15racetimetablev2.pdf)
As boosted said, the important times are;
Qually: 09:55
1st Race: 13:40
2nd Race: 16:40
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 27, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
Post by: clive on August 27, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
Thanks for all the info etc guys,
I know we are one of their distributors but the guys at AET have been stars, in spite of being super busy, the Turbo got to them this morning and it went back out the door to get back with me tomorrow :) and it only cost £600 to mend :'(
Turns out it was one of the earlier engine failures with side seal problems that finally showed up,
Turbos make good washing machines for air, but they do get a bit upset when you chuck engine bits through them :-[
Well I never Malcolm, fancy being in the same are at the same time of the race meeting ;)
I know we are one of their distributors but the guys at AET have been stars, in spite of being super busy, the Turbo got to them this morning and it went back out the door to get back with me tomorrow :) and it only cost £600 to mend :'(
Turns out it was one of the earlier engine failures with side seal problems that finally showed up,
Turbos make good washing machines for air, but they do get a bit upset when you chuck engine bits through them :-[
Well I never Malcolm, fancy being in the same are at the same time of the race meeting ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 27, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Post by: clive on August 27, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Has those coils helped?
Hi Grant, turns out changing coils made very little difference but it was worth a try
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2015, 04:34:49 AM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2015, 04:34:49 AM
Was that turbo new when you got it?
Good luck! As allways, we are expecting vids ;)
Good luck! As allways, we are expecting vids ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 28, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Yes turbo was new, not sure you will get a video I'm afraid
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: clive on August 28, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Yes turbo was new, not sure you will get a video I'm afraid
Clive, if you can bring the little dashcam with you, and ensure it is charged (just plug it into a computer USB port, or USB charger for a few hours) and has a memory card in it, I'll make sure we get some video to share :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 28, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: Casey on August 28, 2015, 08:55:49 AMQuote from: clive on August 28, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Yes turbo was new, not sure you will get a video I'm afraid
Clive, if you can bring the little dashcam with you, and ensure it is charged (just plug it into a computer USB port, or USB charger for a few hours) and has a memory card in it, I'll make sure we get some video to share :)
It lives in the car already but I dont know how to wipe the teeny tiny card to get room for more video :-[
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2015, 12:31:43 PM
Post by: Casey on August 28, 2015, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: clive on August 28, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
It lives in the car already but I dont know how to wipe the teeny tiny card to get room for more video :-[
Don't worry, there's a "format" option in the camera, so the card can be wiped in 10 secs. Just make sure you've saved everything you want to keep first :)
To format, switch camera on, if camera starts to record (red dot, top right) press "OK" to stop (red dot goes) . Then press "UP" arrow for a second or two, until the "setup" menu appears. Press "UP" arrow (should be twice) to select "Format", Click "OK", then "UP" arrow to select "YES", click "OK" again. You'll see a spinning wheel on the screen for a second or two as the card is wiped. When wheel disappears, click and hold "UP" arrow for a second to go back tot he video preview screen. Job done!
If you have any trouble, I can do this when I arrive :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 30, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
Well "Christine" strikes again, damn thing really does not want to race!. (can someone photo shop the picture below with some yellow and blue on it grrrrrrrrrrrrr)
By the time I got the bill for the Turbo it has risen to £700 and despite poring oil into it before it was installed and correctly priming it, it has a noise I am not happy with, if they say its OK, then its OK, but I need them to check it out! .
Been at a Hot Rod / Custom show at Ipswich today to get away from "Christine"for a day , but tomorrow I will strip it back off and get it back for a check-over again on a special delivery in the hope it comes back, Thursday or Friday (need to leave for the track Friday)
By the time I got the bill for the Turbo it has risen to £700 and despite poring oil into it before it was installed and correctly priming it, it has a noise I am not happy with, if they say its OK, then its OK, but I need them to check it out! .
Been at a Hot Rod / Custom show at Ipswich today to get away from "Christine"for a day , but tomorrow I will strip it back off and get it back for a check-over again on a special delivery in the hope it comes back, Thursday or Friday (need to leave for the track Friday)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2015, 07:58:37 PM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2015, 07:58:37 PM
Any news Clive?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 01, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
Post by: clive on September 01, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
I will find out what's what tomorrow when it arrives back with them , fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 02, 2015, 09:13:44 PM
Post by: clive on September 02, 2015, 09:13:44 PM
The man says "nothing wrong" with the Turbo so work dependant I will pop it back on when it gets back and away we go to Coombe on Friday afternoon for racing on Saturday
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on September 02, 2015, 09:16:23 PM
Post by: Casey on September 02, 2015, 09:16:23 PM
Well, that's good news I suppose, but why did it not sound right when you installed it? I guess "Christine" will have something to say on it at some point ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 02, 2015, 09:27:20 PM
Post by: clive on September 02, 2015, 09:27:20 PM
I agree Malcolm as I said to them today, I have installed many many Turbo's over the 20 years or so and never heard one this noisy, but they tell me that the play is correct and all is well. I have pointed out that because so much money is involved, they cant blame me for being worried.
I guess we will put it to the test on Saturday for real, looks like I might have to gag "Christine" for the weekend ;).
I guess we will put it to the test on Saturday for real, looks like I might have to gag "Christine" for the weekend ;).
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2015, 10:27:06 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2015, 10:27:06 PM
My fingers are crossed Clive.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on September 03, 2015, 05:08:36 AM
Post by: re japi on September 03, 2015, 05:08:36 AM
Good new that turbo is ok...
And I hope that everything goes well in next track session :)
And I hope that everything goes well in next track session :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on September 03, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
Post by: C J R on September 03, 2015, 07:52:28 AM
Phew !! That's why Racing Drivers don't do the spanner work on their cars. Ignorance is bliss ^-^, but it can also be very expensive ;D
Good luck at Combe.
Chris
Good luck at Combe.
Chris
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: lennycarloff on September 04, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 04, 2015, 08:25:55 PM
Good luck, hope everything goes to plan, sorry I can't make it
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on September 04, 2015, 10:28:09 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on September 04, 2015, 10:28:09 PM
:sign0098: sorry i cannot attend this one but you know why ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: DaveCollins on September 05, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on September 05, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
A few pictures from qualifying and 1st race today. It was good to see Clive get from a 9th place qualifying slot upto 3rd by Quarry on the first lap (helped a bit by a bit of a dispute over the same piece of tarmac by the leading cars). Once others got in to their stride eventually dropped down to 6th before retirement. I will let Clive update on technical reason behind this. Overall car appeared to be going well and certainly is a credit to all the hard work that has gone in to get to this stage. I am sure Clive is due a bit of good fortune soon.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
Nice pics Dave. Good to meet you again today.
Can't believe Clive's run of bad luck continues. So close again, but another retirement due to technical issues.
I'm sure every outing is moving the car towards its true potential though.
Can't believe Clive's run of bad luck continues. So close again, but another retirement due to technical issues.
I'm sure every outing is moving the car towards its true potential though.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on September 05, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
Post by: rote8 on September 05, 2015, 07:59:04 PM
Oh! bugger, was hoping to hear something more positive this time out. :( Such is the joy of building a competitive race car.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2015, 05:29:16 AM
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2015, 05:29:16 AM
Great picks :)
But again some bad luck :(
But again some bad luck :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 09:48:30 AM
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 09:48:30 AM
Well the learning curve continues,
First up the easy fix, the 5 speed box RX-8 box was useless for the car, it would probably work with a low diff to close up the space between the gears but I will just put a six speed box back as I know it works, sadly although the outcome would have been the same I am sure this box cost me a big lump of time ??? .
Now for the not so easy fix , as I have now got to work out a way forward to solve this problem without the huge money for a dry sump system !
Came in after a few laps of practice as I saw some smoke out of the chicane after Tower as I put this down to a slight overfill of oil-----wrong :-[
Turns out that due to cornering speeds when hard under braking then turning right, oil surge is forcing the oil up the filler neck and out of the catch can and after just a few laps I saw the oil gauge flicker so pulled the car up and game over :-[
I now know that this was also Jon's (Boosted) problem with his first engine from the description I remember, because research last night shows the whole rear of the engine becomes starved of oil when these kinds of cornering speeds are achieved on any Rotary .
I now realise that this is directly connected to not only cornering speeds but also angle of attack at certain corners on certain tracks, for instance, car is fine at Donnington and Brands but also shows slightly at Coram at Snetterton but Castle Coombe is the track where it really manifests fully.
Seems to be various ideas on how to try and over come this, but nothing definitive.
First up will be a Racing Beat baffle plate and work out how to plumb the Turbo return into the back of the engine as this gives a bit more oil feed going into the back of the engine but there's also conflicting ideas on venting ect out on the internet and even if the baffle plate helps this situation ---------any ideas will be welcomed
Next dilemma is deciding if I pull the engine apart to make sure all is well ::) .
First up the easy fix, the 5 speed box RX-8 box was useless for the car, it would probably work with a low diff to close up the space between the gears but I will just put a six speed box back as I know it works, sadly although the outcome would have been the same I am sure this box cost me a big lump of time ??? .
Now for the not so easy fix , as I have now got to work out a way forward to solve this problem without the huge money for a dry sump system !
Came in after a few laps of practice as I saw some smoke out of the chicane after Tower as I put this down to a slight overfill of oil-----wrong :-[
Turns out that due to cornering speeds when hard under braking then turning right, oil surge is forcing the oil up the filler neck and out of the catch can and after just a few laps I saw the oil gauge flicker so pulled the car up and game over :-[
I now know that this was also Jon's (Boosted) problem with his first engine from the description I remember, because research last night shows the whole rear of the engine becomes starved of oil when these kinds of cornering speeds are achieved on any Rotary .
I now realise that this is directly connected to not only cornering speeds but also angle of attack at certain corners on certain tracks, for instance, car is fine at Donnington and Brands but also shows slightly at Coram at Snetterton but Castle Coombe is the track where it really manifests fully.
Seems to be various ideas on how to try and over come this, but nothing definitive.
First up will be a Racing Beat baffle plate and work out how to plumb the Turbo return into the back of the engine as this gives a bit more oil feed going into the back of the engine but there's also conflicting ideas on venting ect out on the internet and even if the baffle plate helps this situation ---------any ideas will be welcomed
Next dilemma is deciding if I pull the engine apart to make sure all is well ::) .
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 10:54:01 AM
Hi Clive
I thought i was the only 1 with this issue til the chap with the white Stylus kit car turbo 2 powered did a recent track day at Combe.
In my qualify the oil came out with such force it came out the bonnet vent and straight into my visor! the engine box and rear undertray of car was covered. Strangely though this was at the end of the straight at tower. Not in or exiting a corner but right at the end of a 3rd gear pull but its happening.
In a nut shell my feelings are the oil is going up the centre iron fill tube and on occasions makes it to catch tank and once that fills your in overflow situation....but how many times does it not reach the catch tank but in the plastic accordion tube before the filler neck and not in the sump...? ( on an rx8). and pick up is starved for a second or 2?
In addition like you say do you have to pull engine as if it happens once and you score a bearing its only a matter of time. And i believe it only happened once at combe for me as after my little mod i never got any oil in my catch tank and again have my digi dash set to alarm at 2 pressures...1 stage was on at tickover.
I spoke to you about my little unorthdox mod but i never saw any oil in my catchtank thereafter and that was the penny washer in centre iron to accordion tube of the oil filler. (its now an fd bottom rad rubber mount as it fits a treat). The hole is say 25mm and with and orifice plate in here restricting to 8mm....greatly impedes oil flow up and down....It is a pain to fill up as takes and age and dipstick has to be pulled slightly to break the airlock. But simple cheap solution....mines staying in!
My rear rotor bearing was rattling on the e shaft and i strongly believe the Synionic oil held it together fot a good few track days.
My new sump also was an off the shelf purchase but im sure a standard steel sump could be modified simarily with sump extra baffles hand made etc far cheaper than the complication of dry sump.
Have you got a magnetic drain plug Clive? In addition i used have a very powerful magnet stuck on my oil filter as well to see if any swarf being collected. Gotta be worth dropping oil for investigation.
On other thought im really surprised this issue has not shown up on Japfest tracktime with the rx8 going out or maybe its laptime related ? faster in corners more surge....
another idea that i have not done was plumb the oil catch with a return to the sump....but due to condensation tank and pipes get manky milky so i discard this idea.
defo a combe issue....The Putts lost alot of Engines there.
I thought i was the only 1 with this issue til the chap with the white Stylus kit car turbo 2 powered did a recent track day at Combe.
In my qualify the oil came out with such force it came out the bonnet vent and straight into my visor! the engine box and rear undertray of car was covered. Strangely though this was at the end of the straight at tower. Not in or exiting a corner but right at the end of a 3rd gear pull but its happening.
In a nut shell my feelings are the oil is going up the centre iron fill tube and on occasions makes it to catch tank and once that fills your in overflow situation....but how many times does it not reach the catch tank but in the plastic accordion tube before the filler neck and not in the sump...? ( on an rx8). and pick up is starved for a second or 2?
In addition like you say do you have to pull engine as if it happens once and you score a bearing its only a matter of time. And i believe it only happened once at combe for me as after my little mod i never got any oil in my catch tank and again have my digi dash set to alarm at 2 pressures...1 stage was on at tickover.
I spoke to you about my little unorthdox mod but i never saw any oil in my catchtank thereafter and that was the penny washer in centre iron to accordion tube of the oil filler. (its now an fd bottom rad rubber mount as it fits a treat). The hole is say 25mm and with and orifice plate in here restricting to 8mm....greatly impedes oil flow up and down....It is a pain to fill up as takes and age and dipstick has to be pulled slightly to break the airlock. But simple cheap solution....mines staying in!
My rear rotor bearing was rattling on the e shaft and i strongly believe the Synionic oil held it together fot a good few track days.
My new sump also was an off the shelf purchase but im sure a standard steel sump could be modified simarily with sump extra baffles hand made etc far cheaper than the complication of dry sump.
Have you got a magnetic drain plug Clive? In addition i used have a very powerful magnet stuck on my oil filter as well to see if any swarf being collected. Gotta be worth dropping oil for investigation.
On other thought im really surprised this issue has not shown up on Japfest tracktime with the rx8 going out or maybe its laptime related ? faster in corners more surge....
another idea that i have not done was plumb the oil catch with a return to the sump....but due to condensation tank and pipes get manky milky so i discard this idea.
defo a combe issue....The Putts lost alot of Engines there.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
Thanks Jon,
First up, track was defiantly quicker than Japfest which was why this has shown up the way it has.
Some times the simple solutions are the best so I will investigate restricting the tube as well as a baffle and modding the turbo return, well done.
I will also tin snip open the oil filter and see if I have any debris
First up, track was defiantly quicker than Japfest which was why this has shown up the way it has.
Some times the simple solutions are the best so I will investigate restricting the tube as well as a baffle and modding the turbo return, well done.
I will also tin snip open the oil filter and see if I have any debris
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
No problem....positives though...map all good? afr's good and no misfiring? :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 12:59:05 PM
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 12:59:05 PM
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u397/boosted38/rubber%20mount_zps0xbr2ydx.jpg)
this is the 1 ....rubber mount bottom of fd rad.
this is the 1 ....rubber mount bottom of fd rad.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 01:06:28 PM
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2015, 01:06:28 PM
I fitted facing down so flush in top of centre iron hole....like a said pig to fill up after oil change though.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 01:31:25 PM
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 01:31:25 PM
Thanks Jon, positives are , although sounding different Turbo is OK as for AFR's I now have the best exhaust colour I have see on the car, running clean enough but I know the map will clean a little more and give more power
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2015, 08:29:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2015, 08:29:50 PM
Clive there are some dry sump systems out there you can utilise without having to spend the cash on the overly priced mazdaspeed dry sumps.
Carl sorted one for Darren McNamaras rotary powered AE86 a couple years ago. Think it may have been a moroso dry sump pump?
Carl sorted one for Darren McNamaras rotary powered AE86 a couple years ago. Think it may have been a moroso dry sump pump?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: lennycarloff on September 06, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 06, 2015, 09:05:31 PM
If you can stop the oil from working it's way out but worry about oil starvation take a look at this
www.rallynuts.com/accusumps-systems/accusump-electrical-oil-accumulators.html
www.rallynuts.com/accusumps-systems/accusump-electrical-oil-accumulators.html
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 09:53:54 PM
Post by: clive on September 06, 2015, 09:53:54 PM
Thanks Jim and Grant
I feel that with a Jon idea restrictor, seeing if I can relocate the Turbo drain to the back,if I can get a nice run into it so the oil does not back up, the Racing Beat baffle plate then vent out back to the catch tank via a long pipe from the front turbo drain, all should be ok
I feel that with a Jon idea restrictor, seeing if I can relocate the Turbo drain to the back,if I can get a nice run into it so the oil does not back up, the Racing Beat baffle plate then vent out back to the catch tank via a long pipe from the front turbo drain, all should be ok
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on September 06, 2015, 11:47:35 PM
Post by: C J R on September 06, 2015, 11:47:35 PM
Good to hear the turbo and map appeared to work ok, sorry to hear about the oil surge problem.
Might explain why my engine has oil spills after a track session.
I would also recommend the 'old school' approach of sump baffles. Couple of tin plates welded in to the sump to keep the oil around the pick up tube. Both would need holes in to allow restricted oil flow.
Obviously hope you do not find debris in the filter and I assume you'll drop the oil and check for debris after settling, before deciding whether to strip the engine.
Might explain why my engine has oil spills after a track session.
I would also recommend the 'old school' approach of sump baffles. Couple of tin plates welded in to the sump to keep the oil around the pick up tube. Both would need holes in to allow restricted oil flow.
Obviously hope you do not find debris in the filter and I assume you'll drop the oil and check for debris after settling, before deciding whether to strip the engine.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Ed_RX7 on September 08, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
Post by: Ed_RX7 on September 08, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
Hi clive, sorry to hear about your misfortune.
Do you know what oil system Umar is running in his 13b?.... i'm sure he is on stock system. and running very very quick lap times as he won the Time attack Championship. He doesn't appear to have this issue.
Could there be another reason?
Do you know what oil system Umar is running in his 13b?.... i'm sure he is on stock system. and running very very quick lap times as he won the Time attack Championship. He doesn't appear to have this issue.
Could there be another reason?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Ed_RX7 on September 08, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Post by: Ed_RX7 on September 08, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
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defo a combe issue....The Putts lost alot of Engines there.
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Wasn't that due to a constant misfire issue that was never addressed?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on September 08, 2015, 01:44:33 PM
Post by: clive on September 08, 2015, 01:44:33 PM
Hi Ed,
I suspect he is using the that Carl would have had him fit which dumps the oil back in the engine that I have now found out about.
Shame is I didn't know I had a problem till last weekend, had I known this could be an issue I would have addressed it long ago.
I suspect he is using the that Carl would have had him fit which dumps the oil back in the engine that I have now found out about.
Shame is I didn't know I had a problem till last weekend, had I known this could be an issue I would have addressed it long ago.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on September 08, 2015, 03:40:47 PM
Post by: boosted on September 08, 2015, 03:40:47 PM
Quote from: Ed_RX7 on September 08, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
defo a combe issue....The Putts lost alot of Engines there.
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Wasn't that due to a constant misfire issue that was never addressed?
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soz misleading.....oil surge defo a problem for a fast rotary around combe myself, Clive and the chap with the stylus t2 have all had recent oil surge issues there. pure speculation why The Putts lost alot of engines at Combe. I used to spectate alot when they where campaigning there they'd defo have a solution......prob dry sump.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 09, 2015, 07:42:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 09, 2015, 07:42:30 PM
How goes Christine???
Your back ;)
After the engine starvation thing I have pulled it apart for a full check over / all is well no bearing problems,
My Synionic oil probably saved it.
Currently undergoing oil system redesign so Christine can't bite can't bite me again-----------got to, got to, get this car right for next season
Your back ;)
After the engine starvation thing I have pulled it apart for a full check over / all is well no bearing problems,
My Synionic oil probably saved it.
Currently undergoing oil system redesign so Christine can't bite can't bite me again-----------got to, got to, get this car right for next season
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
Any news on this?
I just realized that I havent read all these pages in this topic :)
I just realized that I havent read all these pages in this topic :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 27, 2015, 04:24:31 PM
Post by: clive on December 27, 2015, 04:24:31 PM
Been a little quiet but the race car is far from forgotten, waiting for a mate to machine up a new inlet for me.
Going to be in the Nippon Challenge again and hopefully have some real fun in 2016
TRACK ATTACK RACE CLUB
2016 DATES /VENUES-PROVISIONAL!!!!
27 /28 March Snetterton 300 MSVR
23/24 April Donington Park MSVR
14/15 May Pembrey BARC (not doing this because of being at Japfest with the club)
11/12 June Rockingham BRSCC .
2/3 July Thruxton BARC
30/31 July Brands Hatch BARC
27/29 August Silverstone BRSCC
00/00 September Tba
22 October Autumn Trophy MSVR
BTW, looking around on the internet last night and I found an old NHRPA Hot Rod pic from back in 1991 in some familiar colours , I'll let you guess the car ;) (sorry not Rotary)
Going to be in the Nippon Challenge again and hopefully have some real fun in 2016
TRACK ATTACK RACE CLUB
2016 DATES /VENUES-PROVISIONAL!!!!
27 /28 March Snetterton 300 MSVR
23/24 April Donington Park MSVR
14/15 May Pembrey BARC (not doing this because of being at Japfest with the club)
11/12 June Rockingham BRSCC .
2/3 July Thruxton BARC
30/31 July Brands Hatch BARC
27/29 August Silverstone BRSCC
00/00 September Tba
22 October Autumn Trophy MSVR
BTW, looking around on the internet last night and I found an old NHRPA Hot Rod pic from back in 1991 in some familiar colours , I'll let you guess the car ;) (sorry not Rotary)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Yay donington! Where abouts is thruxton? Going to look on google
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:44:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:44:07 PM
Too far for me! What are you doing with intake??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Clarky on December 27, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
Post by: Clarky on December 27, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Yay donington! Where abouts is thruxton? Going to look on google
Looks like a MK2 Ford Escort
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 09:16:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 09:16:34 PM
Ford Fiesta?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Bucko on December 27, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Post by: Bucko on December 27, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Opel Ascona
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 05:15:44 AM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 05:15:44 AM
Opel Kadett?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jynkkis on December 28, 2015, 06:14:22 AM
Post by: jynkkis on December 28, 2015, 06:14:22 AM
Datsun?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 08:42:50 AM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 08:42:50 AM
Getting warmer, it is japanese,
To be fair really only the roof was original with the rest being Kevlar.
Here you go, her's the only other picture I have ;)
To be fair really only the roof was original with the rest being Kevlar.
Here you go, her's the only other picture I have ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 08:48:22 AM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 08:48:22 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Yay donington! Where abouts is thruxton? Going to look on google
You could make it a two day affair with Japfest @ silverstone the next day ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jynkkis on December 28, 2015, 11:17:27 AM
Post by: jynkkis on December 28, 2015, 11:17:27 AM
-79 corolla?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Pukka on December 28, 2015, 11:40:08 AM
Post by: Pukka on December 28, 2015, 11:40:08 AM
Toyota Starlet RWD
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: Pukka on December 28, 2015, 11:40:08 AM
Toyota Starlet RWD
Looks like I started my own New Year quiz ;D
Well you got the first bit right, should be easy now :-\
p.s. unpacked your gaskets today :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:21:09 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:21:09 PM
Color... :D
Car looks really weird. Usually, I´m quite good at these...
I´m quessing Corolla KE25 Coupe or maybe Levin version...?
Car looks really weird. Usually, I´m quite good at these...
I´m quessing Corolla KE25 Coupe or maybe Levin version...?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
Actually, it seems like it has Starlet nose and Corolla rear :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Btw Clive are you bringing your race 8 to Japfest?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
Oh, wait... Old Tercel?? ???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:16:11 PMTercel, what, that was a nasty FWD thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
Oh, wait... Old Tercel?? ???
O, come on, it can't be that difficult, you already know its a Toyota :)
Mind you its probably rare now.
Just as well I didn't ask you to guess the running gear ;)
As for Japfest, yes already booked the track sessions for the race car so hopefully it will have a good run after racing at Donnington the day before
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
Well, that car look really weird :D This quiz is quite hard...
Yeah, Tercel is/was awfull looking Starlet with FWD... :P
Yes, wohooo! Finally I can see that beast!!! :0012393:
Yeah, Tercel is/was awfull looking Starlet with FWD... :P
Yes, wohooo! Finally I can see that beast!!! :0012393:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
Ofcourse!!! Sprinter!!!!!
Ofcourse!!! Sprinter!!!!!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on December 28, 2015, 06:02:18 PM
Post by: C J R on December 28, 2015, 06:02:18 PM
Well its a guess, but I'll suggest an old Toyota Corona.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
e20 Treuno :P
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 28, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
e20 Treuno :P
Had to google that one as I had never even heard of that one---------------- turns out that in our speak "its a Corrolla"
I raced against a successful one of those but it wasn't the car I was racing, ;D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 06:54:41 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2015, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: C J R on December 28, 2015, 06:02:18 PM
Well its a guess, but I'll suggest an old Toyota Corona.
Nope, OK last clue----------------circa 1975/76 , it didn't actually have a name, so its no good looking at google listings :29:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 07:12:28 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2015, 07:12:28 PM
thought i was onto summit then ...rear window looked identical to the 1 i googled....
mmm !
mmm !
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 07:35:46 PM
Post by: re japi on December 28, 2015, 07:35:46 PM
Yes, rear window, C pillar and boot looked like Sprinter, which was first gen Corolla, I think body code for coupes was KE15 and KE 17... KE10 was original sedan version... ???
But had three strikes so I´m out :D
But had three strikes so I´m out :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 30, 2015, 10:13:00 AM
Post by: clive on December 30, 2015, 10:13:00 AM
OK, lets put you out of your misery seeing as no one got it ;).
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2015, 11:11:46 AM
Post by: boosted on December 30, 2015, 11:11:46 AM
ha ha i never would ive got that! yours looks very different apart from the rear window!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
What a h**l is that??? ??? I have never seen that. I had to google it :) I´m sure that we never got those...
However, we did have pick up version of that. We call it Toyota Timangi (roughly translates Diamond) They are very rare and wanted nowadays. Long time ago I had opportunity buy that, with AE86 tuned (around 180 bhp) engine, gearbox and diff. It was too expensive... :(
However, we did have pick up version of that. We call it Toyota Timangi (roughly translates Diamond) They are very rare and wanted nowadays. Long time ago I had opportunity buy that, with AE86 tuned (around 180 bhp) engine, gearbox and diff. It was too expensive... :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Pukka on December 30, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Post by: Pukka on December 30, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Powered by all Steel Ford 1600cc Crossflow ?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 30, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Post by: clive on December 30, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Jon, I did say only the roof was stock ;)
Japi, Diamond, well I suppose it shows Toyota had a sense of humour :))
Phil, originally built with a 1700 crossflow but had a Pinto boat anchor fitted in these pictures as a result of Piper Cams supplying me with free engines to develop there cams and vernier wheels etc.
This car was written off after your namesake (Phill Collard) now of BTCC fame turned me around in front of the pack while we were both after the lead, turned out to be a BTCC training ground for him!
Japi, Diamond, well I suppose it shows Toyota had a sense of humour :))
Phil, originally built with a 1700 crossflow but had a Pinto boat anchor fitted in these pictures as a result of Piper Cams supplying me with free engines to develop there cams and vernier wheels etc.
This car was written off after your namesake (Phill Collard) now of BTCC fame turned me around in front of the pack while we were both after the lead, turned out to be a BTCC training ground for him!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
I dont know who named it, was it our importers or Toyotas. :D Well, name is stupid but car has cult fame nowadays...
Pinto engines are quite good, when you change every part on it ;) But good deal Clive
Pinto engines are quite good, when you change every part on it ;) But good deal Clive
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 03, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 03, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Quote from: clive on December 28, 2015, 08:48:22 AMQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 27, 2015, 05:41:04 PM
Yay donington! Where abouts is thruxton? Going to look on google
You could make it a two day affair with Japfest @ silverstone the next day ;)
Could do. Will definitely get too donnington, be down with dad and son this time
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Been a little quiet but still been "at it" getting ready for the new season :)
I have refreshed the engine, fitted a six speed box back in, redesigned both the oil system and the inlet system which now uses a ported lower FD manifold which puts all the injectors back firing fuel into the holes that god intended ;).
I now have every thing jigged up for the "custom" on off upper manifold and I am currently waiting for some machining work to be carried out so I can finish screwing everything back together and get it running again over the next couple of weeks.
I will get some pictures up once the inlet is finished as yet again it is something very different as it's a one off designed around fitting the FD engine into an RX-8 keeping the RX-8 throttle body ;)
To prove I have a sense of humour I even painted the engine Red in honour of the Christine film car >:D ( after all the damn thing has had a mind of its own) :D
I have refreshed the engine, fitted a six speed box back in, redesigned both the oil system and the inlet system which now uses a ported lower FD manifold which puts all the injectors back firing fuel into the holes that god intended ;).
I now have every thing jigged up for the "custom" on off upper manifold and I am currently waiting for some machining work to be carried out so I can finish screwing everything back together and get it running again over the next couple of weeks.
I will get some pictures up once the inlet is finished as yet again it is something very different as it's a one off designed around fitting the FD engine into an RX-8 keeping the RX-8 throttle body ;)
To prove I have a sense of humour I even painted the engine Red in honour of the Christine film car >:D ( after all the damn thing has had a mind of its own) :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 03:21:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 03:21:23 PM
Have you just used a standard FD manifold of using an excessive one?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 03:22:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 03:22:22 PM
Got my porting plates too Clive 
thanks. Dunno if you saw my text
thanks. Dunno if you saw my text
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 05:02:08 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 03:22:22 PM
Got my porting plates too Clive
Yep, got he text, thank you.
Kerim ported out a stock lower for me, then I port matched what is now becoming the custom upper.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 05:27:59 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2016, 05:27:59 PM
As some of you know, I raced a variety of things over the years on small and big tracks plus Drag strips and just yesterday I found a link that had been put up of a race I had never seen .
The link shows how hard and fast things were in a very confined area!!
( If you have a look, the heat does not take long, but the final which I obviously didn't figure that well in takes a lot of time to play)
The car I was in was the only white Mini in the race, which was Ford Powered that I can see was under-steering like mad!
Here's a couple of pictures of the car in the race
https://youtu.be/MAgvzJjwgoQ
The link shows how hard and fast things were in a very confined area!!
( If you have a look, the heat does not take long, but the final which I obviously didn't figure that well in takes a lot of time to play)
The car I was in was the only white Mini in the race, which was Ford Powered that I can see was under-steering like mad!
Here's a couple of pictures of the car in the race
https://youtu.be/MAgvzJjwgoQ
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on January 24, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
Post by: Casey on January 24, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
I enjoyed watching :)
I've only been to Wimbledon Stadium once, many years ago, to watch some banger racing. What a tiny track to race cars on, and what carnage too!
I've only been to Wimbledon Stadium once, many years ago, to watch some banger racing. What a tiny track to race cars on, and what carnage too!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
Will have a watch if that on my dinner break. Working nights 
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on January 25, 2016, 04:56:30 AM
Post by: re japi on January 25, 2016, 04:56:30 AM
Seems like that it made quite good power. :)
But what was that purple Escort doing :D
That 3rd place gent was big fella ;)
But what was that purple Escort doing :D
That 3rd place gent was big fella ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 25, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: clive on January 25, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: re japi on January 25, 2016, 04:56:30 AM
Seems like that it made quite good power. :)
But what was that purple Escort doing :D
That 3rd place gent was big fella ;)
Only seen it once, I have another look later and see what the purple Escort was up to and who was third.
Seems like very little BHP compared to today but it made 174 BHP and from memory I won 14 races with this particular car.
( Good God, how does all this stuff pop back into your memory years on !!)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 25, 2016, 09:56:38 PM
Post by: clive on January 25, 2016, 09:56:38 PM
Had a quick look again and not sure what you meant by what was the purple Escort doing , or did you mean the Starlet that hit the fence ? (that guy was a 2 time World champion !)
No run off areas in oval racing just an unforgiving fence.(see below)
The big guy who went up third was actually the winner and called Andy Harris famous, and still famous for making Fords go fast to this day and was on the TV recently in the For the love of cars show.
A few "names" have been in this formula over the years, Martin Brundle and Derek Warwick of F1 fame, plus my old nemesis Phil Collard BTCC these days, Barry Lee (works Ford driver) plus quite a few GT guys all of whom learnt their art in the National Hot Rod formula.
No run off areas in oval racing just an unforgiving fence.(see below)
The big guy who went up third was actually the winner and called Andy Harris famous, and still famous for making Fords go fast to this day and was on the TV recently in the For the love of cars show.
A few "names" have been in this formula over the years, Martin Brundle and Derek Warwick of F1 fame, plus my old nemesis Phil Collard BTCC these days, Barry Lee (works Ford driver) plus quite a few GT guys all of whom learnt their art in the National Hot Rod formula.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2016, 03:24:38 AM
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2016, 03:24:38 AM
At the beginning of that clip, that purple Escort was "all over the place"... ;)
Wow, some big names there... :D
Umm, so you have raced in BTCC too? Nice :) I think I know Phil Collard, sounds familiar...
I just love old stories, videos and pics :D
Wow, some big names there... :D
Umm, so you have raced in BTCC too? Nice :) I think I know Phil Collard, sounds familiar...
I just love old stories, videos and pics :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 09:09:05 AM
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 09:09:05 AM
Been quiet of late on the thread but still been at it developing the race car.
I have refreshed the engine, carried out oil system mods by baffling the sump with a surge plate venting oil system via a vent pipe from the front engine cover and the rear turbo drain which in turn meant a modded oil catch can.
Biggest mod has been designing, making a new inlet system fitting a ported stock lower inlet which now puts the fuel injectors where they were designed to be then the next problem, as you will see from the pictures was fitting an upper manifold of some description due to the shape of the RX-8's bulkhead then fitting the RX-8 throttle body to it,
My solution was to fit a ported to matched to the lower FD manifold and as you will see from the pictures time-wise this proved to be the biggest challenge !
I have also fitted two EGT gauges so when the car is being mapped we will get an indication of temperature inside the engine from each exhaust port,
I have refreshed the engine, carried out oil system mods by baffling the sump with a surge plate venting oil system via a vent pipe from the front engine cover and the rear turbo drain which in turn meant a modded oil catch can.
Biggest mod has been designing, making a new inlet system fitting a ported stock lower inlet which now puts the fuel injectors where they were designed to be then the next problem, as you will see from the pictures was fitting an upper manifold of some description due to the shape of the RX-8's bulkhead then fitting the RX-8 throttle body to it,
My solution was to fit a ported to matched to the lower FD manifold and as you will see from the pictures time-wise this proved to be the biggest challenge !
I have also fitted two EGT gauges so when the car is being mapped we will get an indication of temperature inside the engine from each exhaust port,
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:19:37 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:19:37 AM
Looks good clive have you weighed the car at all? What side plates have you used? Turbo2 plates so the engine is mounted from the centre plate?
have you weighed the car at all? What side plates have you used? Turbo2 plates so the engine is mounted from the centre plate?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 09:41:38 AM
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:19:37 AM
Looks good clive
Thanks Grant,
FD engine with engine mounts conventionally at the back of the engine.
Still no idea of weight, but with no tupperware panels I would suggest a lot :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:45:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:45:23 AM
Tupperware panels!!! Haha I guess the roll cage replaces a lot of weight that you take out doesn't it plus you have added a turbo system. Rx8s are 3000 pounds??
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:48:03 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 09:48:03 AM
So that's 1363 kg which in all fairness isn't that heavy compared too some other cars like skylines etc. That's 100kg more than an FD if I remember properly? I'm sure there's plenty you can get out of it once the car is running 100%. Either make it lighter or make more powaaaaaah lol to go even quicker
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
will you still get the same or more induction into the turbo ???
Title: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 04:42:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2016, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 03:49:27 PMWhat do you mean??
will you still get the same or more induction into the turbo ???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
Post by: clive on March 10, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 03:49:27 PM
will you still get the same or more induction into the turbo ???
Induction to Turbo will be the same, but all this work has been to make sure the air/fuel mixture is distributed into each inlet port evenly.
If this is as efficient as I believe it will, it should give an increase in power through the whole rev range over the previous induction arrangement ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 10:51:12 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 10, 2016, 10:51:12 PM
sorry for not putting my point over very clear, but clive got the grit. thanks ;) yep understood 8)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on March 10, 2016, 11:47:51 PM
Post by: Casey on March 10, 2016, 11:47:51 PM
Great progress Clive - that induction arrangement looks really neat in the engine bay. Some great welding/fab work there too :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2016, 05:18:39 AM
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2016, 05:18:39 AM
Interesting update. Would be nice to see dyno figures how it effects, before and after...
That turbo is massive btw, I thought you are running quite small turbo... :)
FD is about 1260kg. I have been thinking and talking about rx-8´s weight with lot of people. I think that 1100kg is achievable, but not easy. After that, need lots of work and tupperware ;) I really need to get me self rx-8 shel, I want to know what can be done to it...
That turbo is massive btw, I thought you are running quite small turbo... :)
FD is about 1260kg. I have been thinking and talking about rx-8´s weight with lot of people. I think that 1100kg is achievable, but not easy. After that, need lots of work and tupperware ;) I really need to get me self rx-8 shel, I want to know what can be done to it...
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: seanp on March 11, 2016, 08:06:35 AM
Post by: seanp on March 11, 2016, 08:06:35 AM
Great update Clive. Will Deffo make some time to come to some of the races this year... I hope you get a proper chance to race! :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on March 11, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
Post by: boosted on March 11, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
Thats some lovelly alloy welding!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2016, 08:40:34 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2016, 08:40:34 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 11, 2016, 05:18:39 AM
Interesting update. Would be nice to see dyno figures how it effects, before and after...
That turbo is massive btw, I thought you are running quite small turbo... :)
FD is about 1260kg. I have been thinking and talking about rx-8´s weight with lot of people. I think that 1100kg is achievable, but not easy. After that, need lots of work and tupperware ;) I really need to get me self rx-8 shel, I want to know what can be done to it...
It's just a medium size turbo for a rotary
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
Unfortunately the series organiser has been messed about so we have a revised 2016 Race schedule.
Due to work commitments and with Donnington Park now cancelled it means that my first race will Silverstone then Japfest the day after.
Nippon Series will race on the Saturday then MR2's and a Race program will run at Japfest.
Most strange as Japfest till now had always been about track day stuff all day.
Hopefully Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster will stay over the next day with us for Japfest.
Due to work commitments and with Donnington Park now cancelled it means that my first race will Silverstone then Japfest the day after.
Nippon Series will race on the Saturday then MR2's and a Race program will run at Japfest.
Most strange as Japfest till now had always been about track day stuff all day.
Hopefully Phil Collard and Paul Buckmaster will stay over the next day with us for Japfest.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2016, 06:55:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2016, 06:55:04 PM
So silverstone is happening on the day that you were supposed to race a t donnington?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on March 13, 2016, 08:21:59 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2016, 08:21:59 PM
Yes Grant, real shame as I like Donnington :-[
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2016, 08:22:39 PM
It's a good track to watch racing too
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 09, 2016, 04:26:57 PM
Post by: clive on April 09, 2016, 04:26:57 PM
Quick up-date.
Cars all up n running cleanly now (finally) with a new Racing Beat FD box and a fresh rebuild.
At a later date this central silencer gives me the room to build a proper diffuser either side of the silencer as part of the development program I have planned as time permits.
Racing at Silverstone on the Saturday in the two races then staying over for Japfest on the Sunday.
Qualifying should be fun as I have never been around Silverstone even on a track day so I will need to learn the track in the quarter of an hour of qualifying with every one on flying lap :c002:s
Cars all up n running cleanly now (finally) with a new Racing Beat FD box and a fresh rebuild.
At a later date this central silencer gives me the room to build a proper diffuser either side of the silencer as part of the development program I have planned as time permits.
Racing at Silverstone on the Saturday in the two races then staying over for Japfest on the Sunday.
Qualifying should be fun as I have never been around Silverstone even on a track day so I will need to learn the track in the quarter of an hour of qualifying with every one on flying lap :c002:s
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2016, 04:31:55 PM
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2016, 04:31:55 PM
Good luck in advance...get on youtube for some Silverstone familirisation!...got a feeling this is your year Clive!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2016, 05:33:06 AM
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2016, 05:33:06 AM
Awesome! Good luck!
Are you at Premier Inn too? At what time Saturdays races starts?
Are you at Premier Inn too? At what time Saturdays races starts?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 10, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Post by: clive on April 10, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 10, 2016, 05:33:06 AM
Awesome! Good luck!
Are you at Premier Inn too? At what time Saturdays races starts?
We are at the Travel Lodge @ Towcester for the two nights.
To early to see a race program any where yet.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2016, 10:49:27 AM
Oh, I thought that you are at Premier Inn too :/
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 15, 2016, 08:44:02 AM
Post by: re japi on April 15, 2016, 08:44:02 AM
Do you know if there is free entry to service/pit are in saturday? I was wondering, if we are arriving on time to Silverstone, I could come and see you race... :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2016, 09:00:22 AM
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2016, 09:00:22 AM
Doubt it free entry mate...but if your worried about cashflow with a trip to uk costing a fortune...dont forget i still owe u 4 headlights so go watch Clive with the family as im giving you 50 quid and your entry ticket to cover the cost of the lights...would have cost me nearly double that in uk to get some so im rather happy.
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Bucko on April 15, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
Post by: Bucko on April 15, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
Pit entrée is free .. obviously entrée to circiut is not but buy tickets on line the norm is £5 cheeper a ticket
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 15, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
Post by: re japi on April 15, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
Lol, yes I'm going in track with crappy rental Fiat 500!!!
Jon, dont worry about that. We were clad to help. :) but ofcourse its great to have some backup money for pints :D
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Jon, dont worry about that. We were clad to help. :) but ofcourse its great to have some backup money for pints :D
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2016, 05:35:36 PM
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2016, 05:35:36 PM
So i no where you staying and what car youve got so i can topgear special it overnight !!!! Bgw pink wheels and bazouka style exhaust lol.
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on April 15, 2016, 06:50:28 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on April 15, 2016, 06:50:28 PM
Good luck Clive hope you do well ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 16, 2016, 04:57:40 AM
Post by: re japi on April 16, 2016, 04:57:40 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 15, 2016, 05:35:36 PM
So i no where you staying and what car youve got so i can topgear special it overnight !!!! Bgw pink wheels and bazouka style exhaust lol.
lol
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on April 18, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
Here we go, this weekends Race Program - See attachment
Huge grid of 27 Nippon Racers plus French and German cars but sadly no other Rotarys on the list, ???
Huge grid of 27 Nippon Racers plus French and German cars but sadly no other Rotarys on the list, ???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on April 23, 2016, 07:00:44 AM
Post by: re japi on April 23, 2016, 07:00:44 AM
Umm, so what class/series you at?
Beautiful morning here in Bath. So hopefully there is good weather too. We are trying to get quite fast to see you race. But 2 and half hours drive, whit that car so... ;)
Good luck to race! Woop some 4 bangers but ;)
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Beautiful morning here in Bath. So hopefully there is good weather too. We are trying to get quite fast to see you race. But 2 and half hours drive, whit that car so... ;)
Good luck to race! Woop some 4 bangers but ;)
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 23, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
Post by: boosted on April 23, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
Its the 2 races with nippon in them download the pdf to your phone mate....
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on April 23, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
Post by: boosted on April 23, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
13.20 and 15 .25 race 1 n 2....no way gonna make race 1 but should be there for race 2.
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2016, 06:24:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2016, 06:24:21 PM
How did the last weekend go? Gutted I couldn't make it!
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 02, 2016, 10:11:56 PM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2016, 10:11:56 PM
How did it go ? "not too good"!
Here we go , the race report/ saga!
As said never been around Siverstone before which proved to be interesting as one corner produced violent snap oversteer so whereas the car is normally on a 50 50 split on damper to get the car through the Club corner S bend after a spin I found it needed a 90 10 split with the back that soft to compensate for the oversteer.
With that sorted and only 9 psi of boost a lowly 10th on the grid out of 32 cars was all that was achieved on the last lap of qualifying.
Come the race I mistakenly flipped the boost switch to the higher setting of 15 psi of boost which promptly detonated the engine off the line !
This explained why I lit the tyres up with 8K on the rev counter till I lifted my foot back!
Turns out one Apex seal stuck in leaving me with a slight miss costing 2 seconds a lap.
4 laps in the car lost power so I decided to limp back to the pits, BUT, "Christine" paid a visit.
Noticing a lick of flame out the bonnet I turned off the track at the first marshall's post I spotted, straight into a gravel trap !
After passing the Civic burning for three laps pictured below it was the right thing to do, next problem was the recovery truck which I now know could have done a lift and tow from the front, instead they pulled me out from the back and the gravel promptly ripped the nose straight off the car !!
Even the scrutineers were livid, exclaiming "they know this happens and yet they still drag them out this way !"
Now the engine is in bits it turns out one of my main mods over the winter has been a disaster, I constructed a baffled sump with trap doors and then a baffle plate over the top.
I now know the engine suffered oil starvation which led to engine block heat which melted a piece of plastic which as you will see promptly caught alight.
So where do we go from here.
Plus sides are although on low boost this is the first time the car has run cleanly in 3 years and now know the car has some potential.
As for the race, it turns out according to the timing sheets, that even at 2 seconds a lap slower than qualifying I had the car up to fifth leading the Super GT class after people falling off etc.
Eccentric shaft and stationary bearings a totally dead but only one Apex seal had stuck so it means no running in and I can get it mapped with some boost as soon as its back together,
Engine loom was also toast , literally.
Modded sump is going in the bin with a stock sump going back on with the baffle plate and my modified breather system that means the engine now breaths via the front cover and the rear turbo drain.
The car actually looked so bad with its torn off front, fire extinguisher foam and burnt bits I actually took the car all the way back home then drove back to Silverstone as I could not bear to have the car seen at Japfest.
To top it all, I felt real real sorry for Jarno and Jon who came along to finally see the car actually race.
Onwards and upwards as they say !!
Here we go , the race report/ saga!
As said never been around Siverstone before which proved to be interesting as one corner produced violent snap oversteer so whereas the car is normally on a 50 50 split on damper to get the car through the Club corner S bend after a spin I found it needed a 90 10 split with the back that soft to compensate for the oversteer.
With that sorted and only 9 psi of boost a lowly 10th on the grid out of 32 cars was all that was achieved on the last lap of qualifying.
Come the race I mistakenly flipped the boost switch to the higher setting of 15 psi of boost which promptly detonated the engine off the line !
This explained why I lit the tyres up with 8K on the rev counter till I lifted my foot back!
Turns out one Apex seal stuck in leaving me with a slight miss costing 2 seconds a lap.
4 laps in the car lost power so I decided to limp back to the pits, BUT, "Christine" paid a visit.
Noticing a lick of flame out the bonnet I turned off the track at the first marshall's post I spotted, straight into a gravel trap !
After passing the Civic burning for three laps pictured below it was the right thing to do, next problem was the recovery truck which I now know could have done a lift and tow from the front, instead they pulled me out from the back and the gravel promptly ripped the nose straight off the car !!
Even the scrutineers were livid, exclaiming "they know this happens and yet they still drag them out this way !"
Now the engine is in bits it turns out one of my main mods over the winter has been a disaster, I constructed a baffled sump with trap doors and then a baffle plate over the top.
I now know the engine suffered oil starvation which led to engine block heat which melted a piece of plastic which as you will see promptly caught alight.
So where do we go from here.
Plus sides are although on low boost this is the first time the car has run cleanly in 3 years and now know the car has some potential.
As for the race, it turns out according to the timing sheets, that even at 2 seconds a lap slower than qualifying I had the car up to fifth leading the Super GT class after people falling off etc.
Eccentric shaft and stationary bearings a totally dead but only one Apex seal had stuck so it means no running in and I can get it mapped with some boost as soon as its back together,
Engine loom was also toast , literally.
Modded sump is going in the bin with a stock sump going back on with the baffle plate and my modified breather system that means the engine now breaths via the front cover and the rear turbo drain.
The car actually looked so bad with its torn off front, fire extinguisher foam and burnt bits I actually took the car all the way back home then drove back to Silverstone as I could not bear to have the car seen at Japfest.
To top it all, I felt real real sorry for Jarno and Jon who came along to finally see the car actually race.
Onwards and upwards as they say !!
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 03, 2016, 05:18:31 AM
Post by: re japi on May 03, 2016, 05:18:31 AM
Oh crap... :( So there was a lot of destruction... Sorry...
I did see her race for a few laps, and actually first few looked quite good, car does have potential. Cornering looked good. And when engine came to power area... :P Ofcourse it would be awesome to see that car race without problems. But thats racing as they say... But I´m happy just because I saw her race for a few laps at least...
Oh and what I saw at Silverstone over the weekend, marshalls there needs some teaching! MR2 that smoked alot, they just leaved it straight to that area where race cars go in to pits. And that Subaru retaired from race too, he couldnt get past him, cause MR2 was on the way...
Few days ago I started to think what kind of laps times yours, Jon´s, Chris´s and EssexRotary´s cars can do in my home track. It would be awesome to see them race here some day... ::)
I did see her race for a few laps, and actually first few looked quite good, car does have potential. Cornering looked good. And when engine came to power area... :P Ofcourse it would be awesome to see that car race without problems. But thats racing as they say... But I´m happy just because I saw her race for a few laps at least...
Oh and what I saw at Silverstone over the weekend, marshalls there needs some teaching! MR2 that smoked alot, they just leaved it straight to that area where race cars go in to pits. And that Subaru retaired from race too, he couldnt get past him, cause MR2 was on the way...
Few days ago I started to think what kind of laps times yours, Jon´s, Chris´s and EssexRotary´s cars can do in my home track. It would be awesome to see them race here some day... ::)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on May 03, 2016, 08:18:56 AM
Post by: C J R on May 03, 2016, 08:18:56 AM
Wow, what a saga. Firstly Clive, well done - not many people would openly admit to getting something wrong. Your experience helps us all along the way.
Glad to hear you and the car survived with minor damage, bit of copper wire, some plastic and fibreglass is all that's needed :))
Although it may seem misplaced, but this does show significant progress from where you were 2 years ago. Being adventurous by marrying an engine and various ecu's which do not naturally live together.
So, get on with it, ;D rebuild the engine (at least you know that part pretty well) ;) and get it back on track. ^-^
Glad to hear you and the car survived with minor damage, bit of copper wire, some plastic and fibreglass is all that's needed :))
Although it may seem misplaced, but this does show significant progress from where you were 2 years ago. Being adventurous by marrying an engine and various ecu's which do not naturally live together.
So, get on with it, ;D rebuild the engine (at least you know that part pretty well) ;) and get it back on track. ^-^
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 12, 2016, 07:22:56 PM
Post by: clive on May 12, 2016, 07:22:56 PM
So so lucky I did not lose the whole car, as you can see below the fire damage was much worse than I thought :-[
The primary injectors literally burnt themselves into the fuel rail.
Does anyone have a spare primary fuel rail they can sell me like in the picture below , don't need injectors just the fuel rail, cap and the screws please .
The primary injectors literally burnt themselves into the fuel rail.
Does anyone have a spare primary fuel rail they can sell me like in the picture below , don't need injectors just the fuel rail, cap and the screws please .
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 13, 2016, 02:33:42 AM
Post by: boosted on May 13, 2016, 02:33:42 AM
Ebay Clive. Seller : martj £28...
Soz cant post link on my phone...
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2016, 05:00:25 AM
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2016, 05:00:25 AM
Wow... ??? Seems like things could have been worse, so you actually are lucky (kind of)... Im just clad that damages were "minor"...
Btw, do you have in car fire extinguisher system?
I dont understand why people wont use them. Costs around 200£ and it can save car...
Btw, do you have in car fire extinguisher system?
I dont understand why people wont use them. Costs around 200£ and it can save car...
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on May 13, 2016, 12:32:33 PM
Post by: boosted on May 13, 2016, 12:32:33 PM
primary fuel rail.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172185994145?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 13, 2016, 12:43:28 PM
Post by: clive on May 13, 2016, 12:43:28 PM
Yep , full on-board extinguisher , decided to bail out and get the bonnet up, something you wouldn't normally do but as I have the big vent in the bonnet this was not an issue.
As I had dumped it in the gravel at a marshal post, literally the was there ready to whoof it out so there was no need to pull the extinguisher from the out side which I was about to do but the guy was already at it 8).
As I had dumped it in the gravel at a marshal post, literally the was there ready to whoof it out so there was no need to pull the extinguisher from the out side which I was about to do but the guy was already at it 8).
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on May 13, 2016, 12:44:21 PM
Post by: clive on May 13, 2016, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 13, 2016, 12:32:33 PM
primary fuel rail.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172185994145?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Thanks Jon, ordered.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2016, 06:23:08 PM
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2016, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: clive on May 13, 2016, 12:43:28 PMOk, good. Those really dont cost much and they can save you from big bill... :)
Yep , full on-board extinguisher , decided to bail out and get the bonnet up, something you wouldn't normally do but as I have the big vent in the bonnet this was not an issue.
As I had dumped it in the gravel at a marshal post, literally the was there ready to whoof it out so there was no need to pull the extinguisher from the out side which I was about to do but the guy was already at it 8).
Yes, think hard and check what is going on before you use it ;) cause it will shoot that bottle empty and then it will be a big mess...
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on August 16, 2016, 10:02:56 AM
Post by: re japi on August 16, 2016, 10:02:56 AM
Any news?
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 18, 2016, 08:22:06 AM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2016, 08:22:06 AM
Just for a change so I don't get bored, I'm screwing together a fresh engine !
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: rote8 on August 18, 2016, 09:06:50 AM
Post by: rote8 on August 18, 2016, 09:06:50 AM
I would have avoided the word "screwing' as too many engines before have ended up screwed unfortunately. Even with your vast experience each engine rebuild is revealing some very unusual reasons for failure, but with the car showing such potential it's a credit to your perseverance when most of us would have given up by now. We all so want this car to be a success.
I can't be much practical help, but if moral support can help then rest assured I'm behind you all the way.
I can't be much practical help, but if moral support can help then rest assured I'm behind you all the way.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on August 18, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: rote8 on August 18, 2016, 09:06:50 AM
I would have avoided the word "screwing' as too many engines before have ended up screwed unfortunately.
That made me smile Ray, could do with a smile
OK lets term it as a new engine is being "assembled" ;)
Thanks for your support, appreciated.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2016, 01:48:02 AM
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2016, 01:48:02 AM
Quote from: rote8 on August 18, 2016, 09:06:50 AMI couldnt agree more :)
I would have avoided the word "screwing' as too many engines before have ended up screwed unfortunately. Even with your vast experience each engine rebuild is revealing some very unusual reasons for failure, but with the car showing such potential it's a credit to your perseverance when most of us would have given up by now. We all so want this car to be a success.
I can't be much practical help, but if moral support can help then rest assured I'm behind you all the way.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 20, 2016, 08:49:22 PM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2016, 08:49:22 PM
OK I suppose its about time we had an update on the race car in case people think I had given up ;)
After my last outing at brands where I lost a Rotor Bearing Much has happen to "Christine" and till this weekend the damn thing still threw problems at me that you just could not make up.
1st and main issue /
I found why the engine was killing side seals and cost two engines and five rebuilds / the ignition map was set on reluctor rather than digital and despite many mappers from here America and even Australia missing a simple tick in a box, Pip@WGT picked up the fault on the cars first visit , indeed before discovering the cause he would not run the car over 3000 revs !.
Essentially I had "ignition scatter" resulting in high chamber temps which was killing engines :(
2nd issue /
I had a safe low boost now but not much horsepower but now the engine was consuming bearings, so another two rebuilds ensued with the first making the engine block so hot it caught the car alight hence the car now being called Christine after the cult film about a possessed car !
First thought for bearing failure was a poor oil pick up on track but while the engine was apart it turned out that the shaft and rotor assembly was out of balance due to the previous owner fitting the wrong weight front counter balance weight in the assembly, a chance conversation with Carl Hayward picked this up when I commented on how heavy the front weight was. Turned out a super rare and useless to me Turbo 1 weight was fitted putting the engine out of balance.
3rd issue /
Now built up with new FD Rotors (thank you Ben@RR ) a new shaft and weights we was up n running back to Pips for a fresh map as I now had a different compression Ratio, and guess what that turned into a wasted ten hour round trip, damn you Christine!
This time we put it on the Dyno and as the car revved it had a "reverse" spike in the map. I then spent the two weeks rewiring etc till I ran out of ideas as I had no codes or anything to indicate anything wrong !!!!!!!!! Then came Jon "Boosted" with a bright idea 8)
He immediately thought back to Scalextric hand controllers that worked and then would go again. Thank you Jon as this put me back on the road to a cure for this issue. After putting a Snap On OBD reader on which we set to trace the throttle, it turned out that at 62% throttle the throttle had a dead spot till 70%. You would never find this unless you was on a Dyno as the throttle " seemed" to work ok but the needle on the rev counter dropped at 6200rpm.
Talking to the many traders I deal with most have seen pedal issues but the car normally just won't rev up ! but our Christine decides to do something no body else has ever had happen ???
4th and hopefully last issue ;)
Off we go to Pips on Friday night for mapping on Saturday morning and my possessed car throws something else at me ------------------- Got the car on the Dyno and the communication from the ECU to the lap top can't be found, so no Mapping again.
Turns out the port in the ECU had been used so many times it had snapped off the computer board, arrrrrgggg . However Pip knew a man that could repair the ECU and after another two hours of rushing across to the computer guy we had an ECU that was programmable again and program it did, and thanks to Pip I now have a nice map in the car that should give me race car that I can finally find out how fast or slow it really is 8)
Huge thanks go to all the people who have supported this project along the way, god its been a painful journey,
Looking forward now to seeing you all at Brands on the 2nd for the annual Rotary track day with hopefully an RX-8 that is now de-possessed >:D
After my last outing at brands where I lost a Rotor Bearing Much has happen to "Christine" and till this weekend the damn thing still threw problems at me that you just could not make up.
1st and main issue /
I found why the engine was killing side seals and cost two engines and five rebuilds / the ignition map was set on reluctor rather than digital and despite many mappers from here America and even Australia missing a simple tick in a box, Pip@WGT picked up the fault on the cars first visit , indeed before discovering the cause he would not run the car over 3000 revs !.
Essentially I had "ignition scatter" resulting in high chamber temps which was killing engines :(
2nd issue /
I had a safe low boost now but not much horsepower but now the engine was consuming bearings, so another two rebuilds ensued with the first making the engine block so hot it caught the car alight hence the car now being called Christine after the cult film about a possessed car !
First thought for bearing failure was a poor oil pick up on track but while the engine was apart it turned out that the shaft and rotor assembly was out of balance due to the previous owner fitting the wrong weight front counter balance weight in the assembly, a chance conversation with Carl Hayward picked this up when I commented on how heavy the front weight was. Turned out a super rare and useless to me Turbo 1 weight was fitted putting the engine out of balance.
3rd issue /
Now built up with new FD Rotors (thank you Ben@RR ) a new shaft and weights we was up n running back to Pips for a fresh map as I now had a different compression Ratio, and guess what that turned into a wasted ten hour round trip, damn you Christine!
This time we put it on the Dyno and as the car revved it had a "reverse" spike in the map. I then spent the two weeks rewiring etc till I ran out of ideas as I had no codes or anything to indicate anything wrong !!!!!!!!! Then came Jon "Boosted" with a bright idea 8)
He immediately thought back to Scalextric hand controllers that worked and then would go again. Thank you Jon as this put me back on the road to a cure for this issue. After putting a Snap On OBD reader on which we set to trace the throttle, it turned out that at 62% throttle the throttle had a dead spot till 70%. You would never find this unless you was on a Dyno as the throttle " seemed" to work ok but the needle on the rev counter dropped at 6200rpm.
Talking to the many traders I deal with most have seen pedal issues but the car normally just won't rev up ! but our Christine decides to do something no body else has ever had happen ???
4th and hopefully last issue ;)
Off we go to Pips on Friday night for mapping on Saturday morning and my possessed car throws something else at me ------------------- Got the car on the Dyno and the communication from the ECU to the lap top can't be found, so no Mapping again.
Turns out the port in the ECU had been used so many times it had snapped off the computer board, arrrrrgggg . However Pip knew a man that could repair the ECU and after another two hours of rushing across to the computer guy we had an ECU that was programmable again and program it did, and thanks to Pip I now have a nice map in the car that should give me race car that I can finally find out how fast or slow it really is 8)
Huge thanks go to all the people who have supported this project along the way, god its been a painful journey,
Looking forward now to seeing you all at Brands on the 2nd for the annual Rotary track day with hopefully an RX-8 that is now de-possessed >:D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 20, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
Post by: boosted on November 20, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
Woohoo. Bet you cant wait for Brands!
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 21, 2016, 05:53:04 AM
Post by: re japi on November 21, 2016, 05:53:04 AM
Wow. Just wow. Thats a... umm... I´m speechless :D But thanks for update, I was a bit worried allready... :)
1st. Can you explain that ignition scatter thing? I dont get it :)
2nd. I thought that engine was fully balanced with counter weight? Cause what I have heard and found out is that all rotary engines arent that well balanced, stock tolerances are really big. With little work you can make it much better. So, cause your car is "endurance" car, I thought that you have done that. Altough I dont know toleranses in Renny rotors and e shaft, but I assume that they are quite big too. :) Anyhow, it doesent matter if counterweight is really weird :D
3rd. Jon is a frickin´ genious! What would we do without him ;) But what caused that flat spot?
4th. What? How that is even possible? ???
But hopefully everything is ok now, and you can finally enjoy that beast!
You know, all my years following racing, rallying and car builds, I have found out that race cars and high tech electronics dont match! :D I mean, there is so much that can and will go wrong and back tracing problems can be very difficult. For examble, usually when rallycross car dont run or missfires, problem is in trickerwheel and sensor. They shake so much during race that they simply move and causes ecu to act wrong. Many people dont understand that and they dont even realize to check their sensors position :)
1st. Can you explain that ignition scatter thing? I dont get it :)
2nd. I thought that engine was fully balanced with counter weight? Cause what I have heard and found out is that all rotary engines arent that well balanced, stock tolerances are really big. With little work you can make it much better. So, cause your car is "endurance" car, I thought that you have done that. Altough I dont know toleranses in Renny rotors and e shaft, but I assume that they are quite big too. :) Anyhow, it doesent matter if counterweight is really weird :D
3rd. Jon is a frickin´ genious! What would we do without him ;) But what caused that flat spot?
4th. What? How that is even possible? ???
But hopefully everything is ok now, and you can finally enjoy that beast!
You know, all my years following racing, rallying and car builds, I have found out that race cars and high tech electronics dont match! :D I mean, there is so much that can and will go wrong and back tracing problems can be very difficult. For examble, usually when rallycross car dont run or missfires, problem is in trickerwheel and sensor. They shake so much during race that they simply move and causes ecu to act wrong. Many people dont understand that and they dont even realize to check their sensors position :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 21, 2016, 09:52:03 PM
Post by: clive on November 21, 2016, 09:52:03 PM
Here we go,
1st. Can you explain that ignition scatter thing? I dont get it :) / By being on the wrong setting in the ECU, The effect was the same as high voltage inter-fearing with the pulses from the eccentric shaft sensor and confusing the signal.
2nd. I thought that engine was fully balanced with counter weight? / As I am not using high revs, a matched at the factory shaft/rotor/ balance weight assembly should have been fine and for what ever reason somebody bolted the wrong weight onto the engine before I got my hands on it ???
3rd. Jon is a frickin´ genious! What would we do without him ;) But what caused that flat spot? / Yes Jon's a star, 8) The fly by wire pedal assembly was found to be worn and had a dead spot like an old Scalextric hand controller
4th. What? How that is even possible? ???/ Don't forget it was possessed ;)
1st. Can you explain that ignition scatter thing? I dont get it :) / By being on the wrong setting in the ECU, The effect was the same as high voltage inter-fearing with the pulses from the eccentric shaft sensor and confusing the signal.
2nd. I thought that engine was fully balanced with counter weight? / As I am not using high revs, a matched at the factory shaft/rotor/ balance weight assembly should have been fine and for what ever reason somebody bolted the wrong weight onto the engine before I got my hands on it ???
3rd. Jon is a frickin´ genious! What would we do without him ;) But what caused that flat spot? / Yes Jon's a star, 8) The fly by wire pedal assembly was found to be worn and had a dead spot like an old Scalextric hand controller
4th. What? How that is even possible? ???/ Don't forget it was possessed ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2016, 10:00:23 PM
Post by: boosted on November 21, 2016, 10:00:23 PM
4th: procure some holy water from a church altar and give Christine a liberal soaking to finally exercise the demon.
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on November 22, 2016, 02:59:53 AM
Post by: re japi on November 22, 2016, 02:59:53 AM
1st. Oh, I see. :)
2nd. Ok. For some reason I thought that your engine was balanced. :) Funny how that little lump in the other end of the shaft can throw all out of balance... :/
3rd. Pedal assembly? You got to be joking? :D I thought that problems was somewhere in throttle body... Are you using 8´s throttlebody? Cause I just broke mine just for fun, and I have to say that I wouldnt trust that component :D
4th. Oh, I forgot that. :) But does that mean then that Jon is a bishop? ;) :D
2nd. Ok. For some reason I thought that your engine was balanced. :) Funny how that little lump in the other end of the shaft can throw all out of balance... :/
3rd. Pedal assembly? You got to be joking? :D I thought that problems was somewhere in throttle body... Are you using 8´s throttlebody? Cause I just broke mine just for fun, and I have to say that I wouldnt trust that component :D
4th. Oh, I forgot that. :) But does that mean then that Jon is a bishop? ;) :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on November 22, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
Post by: Casey on November 22, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
Really looking forward to seeing the car running at Brands next week :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on November 22, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
Post by: C J R on November 22, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
EPIC ! ???
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on November 26, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on November 26, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
whens Brands meeting on sorry not been keeping up with events I would love to pop over and see the car again ho and you as well clive LOl
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on November 27, 2016, 02:57:35 PM
Post by: clive on November 27, 2016, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: exiled-viking on November 26, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
whens Brands meeting on sorry not been keeping up with events I would love to pop over and see the car again ho and you as well clive LOl
Tony its this coming Friday 8)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2016, 01:02:33 PM
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2016, 01:02:33 PM
Good luck tomoz !!!!
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 01, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
Post by: clive on December 01, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
Thanks Jon, appreciated.
Tomorrow is just a ride around really, I have even put my monster standard battery back on and a passenger seat.Never going to set the world alight like this, however, good or bad, a friend of mine wants to try out his gopro thingy so there will be some sort of footage :(
p.s. come on, where's our Rotary pics from the land of Aus ;)
Tomorrow is just a ride around really, I have even put my monster standard battery back on and a passenger seat.Never going to set the world alight like this, however, good or bad, a friend of mine wants to try out his gopro thingy so there will be some sort of footage :(
p.s. come on, where's our Rotary pics from the land of Aus ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 09:47:59 AM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 09:47:59 AM
Ive got fingers toes arms n legs crossed....
Did not see many Rotary cars...handful of rx8s and 1 FC. But i saw a norton, hercules, suzuki re5 bike...5 in 1 place.
I went to a car show and not 1 rotary....but v8s everywhere got some photos of those?
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Did not see many Rotary cars...handful of rx8s and 1 FC. But i saw a norton, hercules, suzuki re5 bike...5 in 1 place.
I went to a car show and not 1 rotary....but v8s everywhere got some photos of those?
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 07:36:49 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 07:36:49 PM
How it go mate?
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 02, 2016, 10:16:09 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2016, 10:16:09 PM
All is well Jon, FINALLY.
Went through around 12 gallons of fuel with no issues other than noise :),
Tried a bung up my single exit exhaust but still got chucked off :( My mate brought over my Racing Beat twin exit exhaust for the afternoon.
Another friend of mine has just put this link up for noise comparison https://youtu.be/WvaqgH1rmgI
Went through around 12 gallons of fuel with no issues other than noise :),
Tried a bung up my single exit exhaust but still got chucked off :( My mate brought over my Racing Beat twin exit exhaust for the afternoon.
Another friend of mine has just put this link up for noise comparison https://youtu.be/WvaqgH1rmgI
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 11:10:12 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2016, 11:10:12 PM
Woohoo...looking good.
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2016, 11:57:13 AM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2016, 11:57:13 AM
Awesome. :) Turbo sounds angry at full chat :P
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 03, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Here we go, some in-car for you https://youtu.be/iVB4Pu_AK1g
(disregard the second video behind it from way back as the engine was running rubbish and the clutch was slipping and eventuality stops the car)
(disregard the second video behind it from way back as the engine was running rubbish and the clutch was slipping and eventuality stops the car)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
Yep! Thats more like it !
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2016, 06:49:06 PM
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2016, 06:49:06 PM
Clive kindly fitted a passenger seat so a few lucky souls could experience the sounds, smells, handling and acceleration of the exorcised "Christine" on track at Brands Hatch; plus witness Clive's excellent car control first hand.
All I can say is :c029:
The acceleration and cornering ability is stunning, and this is still with the car running conservative settings and Clive getting used to how the car handles for the first time at speed. The brakes are awesome, cf a normal RX-8, given the stripped out weight of the car. The ability to chnage direction really quickly without losing grip was astonishing (with reference to my RX-8) :P
Awesome, I had a huge grin throughout the entire track session ;D
All I can say is :c029:
The acceleration and cornering ability is stunning, and this is still with the car running conservative settings and Clive getting used to how the car handles for the first time at speed. The brakes are awesome, cf a normal RX-8, given the stripped out weight of the car. The ability to chnage direction really quickly without losing grip was astonishing (with reference to my RX-8) :P
Awesome, I had a huge grin throughout the entire track session ;D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 09:19:21 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 09:19:21 PM
123mph pah id can go quicker on my skateboard ...lol
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 03, 2016, 11:25:42 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2016, 11:25:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 03, 2016, 09:19:21 PM
123mph pah id can go quicker on my skateboard ...lol
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That will be your Back to the Future skateboard then ;)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
Looks awesome mate.....and sounds sweet......got to say whats going on with your tongue????if you look in rear view mirror youll see what i mean ha ha! :P
Told you this was gonna be the year! 8)
Told you this was gonna be the year! 8)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 04, 2016, 08:50:32 AM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2016, 08:50:32 AM
Something I do when I'm concentrating :D Ode to self always wear my full face when being filmed ;D.
Seriously, yesterday was just a ride around day and I knew I was not going to get serious, hence the girly crash hat.
Hopefully when I dump probably 60 kilos out the car, reference stock seat and replace my full size car Battery with my Ballistic EV02 "hopefully" it will be a little quicker.
Seriously, yesterday was just a ride around day and I knew I was not going to get serious, hence the girly crash hat.
Hopefully when I dump probably 60 kilos out the car, reference stock seat and replace my full size car Battery with my Ballistic EV02 "hopefully" it will be a little quicker.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 04, 2016, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2016, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 03, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
Told you this was gonna be the year! 8)
You was right, trouble is, I've run out of year to go and race :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: C J R on December 04, 2016, 10:34:03 AM
Post by: C J R on December 04, 2016, 10:34:03 AM
That looks and sounds awesome. Really happy that your finally getting this working how you want it.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: DaveCollins on December 04, 2016, 11:22:37 AM
Post by: DaveCollins on December 04, 2016, 11:22:37 AM
Clive really pleased your hard work looks like it is finally about to pay off. Wish you luck for events next year.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2016, 05:38:00 AM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2016, 05:38:00 AM
Really clad that you got some good laps finally. :) And car goes really well, looks like it is fast and seems like it is very neutral to drive. Also, looks like that you can drive too, dont worry about the tongue ;)
What kind of boost you use now? And how much that car weights? But that air to fuel ration confuses me... :)
What kind of boost you use now? And how much that car weights? But that air to fuel ration confuses me... :)
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 05, 2016, 07:58:51 AM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2016, 07:58:51 AM
Thanks Dave, and Jarno.
Only on 13psi boost, just as as precaution I will send info up to Pip but to me it looks rich 99.9 % of the time. Best place to look at AFR's is on the straight where you are pulling under load.
If you want to see really weird AFR's, look at Snetterton from a couple of years ago on the video which follows the outside one (not the in-car from Brands) You can't even read the AFR's.
And yes your right, real easy to drive, like I said damp track, old tyres plus a slow old git driving and it stayed on the black stuff all day, so yes I have a very neutral car.
No idea how much it weighs--------------------its all steel so, a lot :(
Only on 13psi boost, just as as precaution I will send info up to Pip but to me it looks rich 99.9 % of the time. Best place to look at AFR's is on the straight where you are pulling under load.
If you want to see really weird AFR's, look at Snetterton from a couple of years ago on the video which follows the outside one (not the in-car from Brands) You can't even read the AFR's.
And yes your right, real easy to drive, like I said damp track, old tyres plus a slow old git driving and it stayed on the black stuff all day, so yes I have a very neutral car.
No idea how much it weighs--------------------its all steel so, a lot :(
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2016, 09:27:44 AM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2016, 09:27:44 AM
Oh, I thought that it had more boost :) Yes, I watched that vid few times now. Under load it seems quite good. But what confused me was that it goes very lean when you go of the throttle...
Old git? :D Nah, I like your style, looks good to me :)
So I quess if car is so heavy, suspension and geometry really works...?
Old git? :D Nah, I like your style, looks good to me :)
So I quess if car is so heavy, suspension and geometry really works...?
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: kevint on December 05, 2016, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: kevint on December 05, 2016, 02:53:32 PM
very pleased for you Clive that you had such a positive day at Brands
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: jinx on December 05, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Post by: jinx on December 05, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Nice to see Christine behaving herself / being kind to you - for once. If she ever learns to self-repair in the garage she'll have really earned the name but she did at least show an impressive turn of speed and was wonderfully quiet too...in the afternoon.
Given my log-in I'll obviously steer clear of optimistic predictions for the 2017 season. ???
If you have not already, check out the 750MC website for alternative outlets for her new-found sense of equilibrium. :D
Given my log-in I'll obviously steer clear of optimistic predictions for the 2017 season. ???
If you have not already, check out the 750MC website for alternative outlets for her new-found sense of equilibrium. :D
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: lennycarloff on December 05, 2016, 10:19:41 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on December 05, 2016, 10:19:41 PM
Nice to see your getting there, the car looked a lot more balanced in the youtube clip, its just a shame i didn't get to brands to see it myself. i can't wait to see how you get on next year.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on December 06, 2016, 07:26:25 AM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2016, 07:26:25 AM
Many thanks for the comments, appreciated----------- wow its been a journey :91:
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2017, 08:41:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2017, 08:41:53 PM
Great to see you running again clive onwards and upwards
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Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on January 26, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
Post by: clive on January 26, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
Thanks Grant, and fiiiiinally it runs properly 8).
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: exiled-viking on January 26, 2017, 09:05:21 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on January 26, 2017, 09:05:21 PM
Need to get some track time in now then buddy....
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: clive on February 26, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2017, 04:01:17 PM
Well after three years with my head in my hands like the picture I left Snetterton very happy yesterday 8),
Indeed not only myself but also Paul (Bucko) RX-7 FD Phil (Puka) RX-7 FD and Jim (Lennycarlof) with his Time Attack FC all left the track happy yesterday----------Four happy Rotary Race cars all happy at the end of the day, excellent :wee_hee:.
Very damp till later in the afternoon with lots of people attacking the scenery ( blimey if red flags were money we would all be rich)
Really pleased I did this track day as there were two issues that would have showed up and ruined my race in 4 weeks time.
First of all, I had just put a new set of Yokahama AO48's on and as soon as I went out and his 100mph the whole car was shaking so violently it was physically shaking me around in the seat!
Turns out the rears are out of balance in a big, which I will kindly tell the company who fitted them tomorrow, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Next up I had modified my inter-cooler piping and one pipe had decided to pull off, again it would have ruined a race :(!
Interestingly I decided after someone made a comment at Brands that I would test my inter-cooler by running two boost identical gauges, one on each side of the inter-cooler and happily found the in and the out read identically meaning no pressure drop 8) , I always thought that the Apexi worked well and now I know they do :)
With the vibration found and a dry track in the afternoon I was confined to running my wet tyres on the back which was a handful getting the car off the corners, however I still left the track confident that the car "seems" to have good pace and finally after four years I am getting happy, but being realistic, you never really know what you have till your actually racing ;)
Special thanks to Carl Hayward who has come on board to assist running the car this year who will use his many years of fielding Rotary's on circuits which includes one Rotary which solidly finished the Dubai 24 hour race and already yesterday his input was of good use.
Roll on the 25th March at Snetterton when all three Rotarys enter the Nippon Challenge in the Super GT Class against a 40 car field of all sorts of Japanese Race cars, hopefully some of you will come and watch three Rotarys race that have all endured painful journeys to get this far.
Indeed not only myself but also Paul (Bucko) RX-7 FD Phil (Puka) RX-7 FD and Jim (Lennycarlof) with his Time Attack FC all left the track happy yesterday----------Four happy Rotary Race cars all happy at the end of the day, excellent :wee_hee:.
Very damp till later in the afternoon with lots of people attacking the scenery ( blimey if red flags were money we would all be rich)
Really pleased I did this track day as there were two issues that would have showed up and ruined my race in 4 weeks time.
First of all, I had just put a new set of Yokahama AO48's on and as soon as I went out and his 100mph the whole car was shaking so violently it was physically shaking me around in the seat!
Turns out the rears are out of balance in a big, which I will kindly tell the company who fitted them tomorrow, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Next up I had modified my inter-cooler piping and one pipe had decided to pull off, again it would have ruined a race :(!
Interestingly I decided after someone made a comment at Brands that I would test my inter-cooler by running two boost identical gauges, one on each side of the inter-cooler and happily found the in and the out read identically meaning no pressure drop 8) , I always thought that the Apexi worked well and now I know they do :)
With the vibration found and a dry track in the afternoon I was confined to running my wet tyres on the back which was a handful getting the car off the corners, however I still left the track confident that the car "seems" to have good pace and finally after four years I am getting happy, but being realistic, you never really know what you have till your actually racing ;)
Special thanks to Carl Hayward who has come on board to assist running the car this year who will use his many years of fielding Rotary's on circuits which includes one Rotary which solidly finished the Dubai 24 hour race and already yesterday his input was of good use.
Roll on the 25th March at Snetterton when all three Rotarys enter the Nippon Challenge in the Super GT Class against a 40 car field of all sorts of Japanese Race cars, hopefully some of you will come and watch three Rotarys race that have all endured painful journeys to get this far.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: noyzboy on February 26, 2017, 04:22:16 PM
Post by: noyzboy on February 26, 2017, 04:22:16 PM
Glad that you had a fun and productive day.
I would be cautious on deriving a small or zero pressure drop from the different readings on two gauges. The individual accuracy, calibration and tolerances of both gauges have a very large bearing on the derived result.
I would be cautious on deriving a small or zero pressure drop from the different readings on two gauges. The individual accuracy, calibration and tolerances of both gauges have a very large bearing on the derived result.
Title: Re: Clives RX-8 400 BHP Race Series project 2013
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2017, 04:33:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2017, 04:33:13 PM
Great stuff clive
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Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 26, 2017, 05:01:27 PM
Post by: Casey on February 26, 2017, 05:01:27 PM
Glad to hear your afternoon session went well, once you'd confirmed the tyre balance issue. Roll on the 25th, I expect to come up again to watch for at least the morning :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
Briliant news...blimin annoying on them rear tyres...hopefully enough to scrub them in.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 27, 2017, 09:23:15 PM
Post by: clive on February 27, 2017, 09:23:15 PM
Here we go my friend Philip has just posted a video of Snetterton chasing after Phil Collards RX-7 on wet weather rear tyres in the dry ! (you will see the tyres light up off one corner whilst they are scrambling grip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqNwgp9ixa4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqNwgp9ixa4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:30:13 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:30:13 AM
Awesome, really happy for you Clive. :wee_hee: Car seems to perform quite well and consistent. And I really love sound of it :P What kind of torque you have? Seems that it start to pick up revs in really low rev range...
Pukka is pushing hard :) What kind of power his got? Seems that car is struggling to get some rear grip... ;)
Funny, that yellow peace in your dashboard, it reflects image to windscreen, looks like HUD display :D
Does racing gloves have good grip on stock steering wheel? And why you are not using your HANS device? :040: always use it!!! :)
Pukka is pushing hard :) What kind of power his got? Seems that car is struggling to get some rear grip... ;)
Funny, that yellow peace in your dashboard, it reflects image to windscreen, looks like HUD display :D
Does racing gloves have good grip on stock steering wheel? And why you are not using your HANS device? :040: always use it!!! :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 07:47:38 AM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 07:47:38 AM
Quote from: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:30:13 AMYes good gloves work and your right I should wear the Hans, but it is such a pain to cope with------however when I am playing for real I have to wear it.
Awesome, really happy for you Clive. :wee_hee: Car seems to perform quite well and consistent. And I really love sound of it :P What kind of torque you have? Seems that it start to pick up revs in really low rev range... Here you go, here's the dyno from Pip and regardless of how the graph looks, the car picks up very well.
Pukka is pushing hard :) What kind of power his got? Seems that car is struggling to get some rear grip... ;) No idea, sorry
Funny, that yellow peace in your dashboard, it reflects image to windscreen, looks like HUD display : :D My friend keeps asking if I will paint the top because of the reflection.
Does racing gloves have good grip on stock steering wheel? And why you are not using your HANS device? :040: always use it!!! :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:55:21 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:55:21 AM
Thats weird. Graph looks actually different that I thought :D In graphs engine revs up "later". But nice power and torque curves... 
Well, you should ALWAYS use safety devices, even in practises and if just playing. You newer know what might happen... :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:58:06 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:58:06 AM
Umm, is that at the wheels power? That torque is awesome btw
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
Quote from: re japi on February 28, 2017, 07:58:06 AMI would guess that's at the wheel and guessing not running more then 14psi.
Umm, is that at the wheels power? That torque is awesome btw
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The graph looks like all othe rotary graphs iv seen, sharp increase in power, or very "peaky" like rotaries are.
I'd like to see a dunno pull starting from slightly higher rpm with more reference points of rpm. Would imagine it would show more realistic engine operations on track because we all know there's no way clive ever goes down too 2000 rpm and gives it WOT in fourth gear!
Clive what gear was it dynod in? Iv heard that dynoing in third gear can give lower hp than doing it in 4th but it's safer because not as high wheel speed on the dyno??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 08:16:41 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 08:16:41 AM
Yes, its like other rotary dyno sheets. But when Clive is driving, engines behavior, especially picking up revs at lower rpms seems a bit different that sheet says. Seems like engine wakes up earlier "than is should " ;)
Well, if that is whp, that is awesome
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:18:32 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:18:32 AM
Quote from: re japi on February 28, 2017, 08:16:41 AMIn fact I just remembered that pips dyno is a hub dyno
Yes, its like other rotary dyno sheets. But when Clive is driving, engines behavior, especially picking up revs at lower rpms seems a bit different that sheet says. Seems like engine wakes up earlier "than is should " ;)
Well, if that is whp, that is awesome
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Yeh like I said I'd like to see the pull from say 3500 rpms as I would say that would be a bit closer too how the car runs on track
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:19:51 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:19:51 AM
Also looks like they didn't Rev it out on the dyno. 7500 rpms is what a piston motor can do.... 8500 is what a rotary should do minimimum
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:30:32 AM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:30:32 AM
I presumed that this was flywheel power, as we all know Pip is very conservative with power / boost.
Initially he only mapped it to 9psi, but on my return which brings the graph above, I told Pip "come on, I had a Civic pass me on the straight at Silverstone" so he reluctantly put another 3 psi into it to give it just 12psi "for reliability" !
I will say though, whilst I am happy with the car, It's one thing playing on trackdays, but its only when I race the thing I will know if its actually competitive. ;)
Initially he only mapped it to 9psi, but on my return which brings the graph above, I told Pip "come on, I had a Civic pass me on the straight at Silverstone" so he reluctantly put another 3 psi into it to give it just 12psi "for reliability" !
I will say though, whilst I am happy with the car, It's one thing playing on trackdays, but its only when I race the thing I will know if its actually competitive. ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Is it a street port?
I'd say you need another 5 psi just too make sure you have enough
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:40:19 AM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Is it a street port?
I'd say you need another 5 psi just too make sure you have enough
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Yep, just a good street port---------5psi, Pip would have kittens :D :D :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
Whoops double post
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
That turbo was made to give more.
Can you run e85 in your series clive??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: clive on February 28, 2017, 08:40:19 AM:DQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Is it a street port?
I'd say you need another 5 psi just too make sure you have enough
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Yep, just a good street port---------5psi, Pip would have kittens :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 09:44:53 AM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 09:44:53 AM
looks damn fast too me! proper gt car pace now. looking forward to combe on the 17th April...ill be there.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on February 28, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
Post by: C J R on February 28, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
So, my two penneth, if Clive's is running the power as shown in the graph, what's Phil's running ?? That FD pulled away on the straight with far more torque and power. Even with the concertina effect (one pulling out of corner whilst one is still in the corner), similar powered cars would hold position. Phil's romped away which suggests these are not similarly powered.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Ahh Chris it's because FD's are faster than rx8,s its just fact lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on March 01, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
Post by: C J R on March 01, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
:D well spoken :P
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 03:51:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 03:51:51 PM
One of the reason why I believe clive needs more boost if the cars are the same weight, (I would say the rx8 is heavier, even with Clive's thorough diet)
And have the same hp (which they probs don't) the rx8 is better in the corners? So in the racing series how do they control all the cars to be competive without people having multiple "maps" via a switch to use during the racing to simply win or over take just because they want to win.
For example, I know that there are bolt on twin turbo kits for 370Zs, of which make nigh on close too 700hp.....
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if the cars are the same weight, (I would say the rx8 is heavier, even with Clive's thorough diet)And have the same hp (which they probs don't) the rx8 is better in the corners? So in the racing series how do they control all the cars to be competive without people having multiple "maps" via a switch to use during the racing to simply win or over take just because they want to win.
For example, I know that there are bolt on twin turbo kits for 370Zs, of which make nigh on close too 700hp.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Its those 2 extra doors...mess the bhp per tonne up. Painting them red should speed it up a bit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 07:04:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 07:04:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 01, 2017, 06:57:26 PMOr vinyl wrap the with a carbon wrap. Will make them proper light weight then!
Its those 2 extra doors...mess the bhp per tonne up. Painting them red should speed it up a bit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 07:09:37 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 07:09:37 PM
helium in the tyres brings down the unsprung weight......
on a serious note once new rubber on and Clive can get on gas on corner exit and the ol racers edge comes into play....
looking at some of Clives other onboards he was defo very reserved in the corners in this vid as hes usually hitting the kerbs.
on a serious note once new rubber on and Clive can get on gas on corner exit and the ol racers edge comes into play....
looking at some of Clives other onboards he was defo very reserved in the corners in this vid as hes usually hitting the kerbs.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Clive did look to be just having a leasurely drive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 01, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Its those 2 extra doors...mess the bhp per tonne up. Painting them red should speed it up a bit...
Got the answer, obviously if I paint the two letters saying FD, that should sort it ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 08:22:12 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 08:22:12 PM
Yep that should do it. Legs, toes fingers, arms all crossed for you for Snetterton.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:22:50 PM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Clive did look to be just having a leasurely drive
Jon's right, I do like to "run the kerbs" but with the lack of rear end grip I was just out for a Sunday Drive on a Saturday ;D
p.s. because of my love of kerbs, when building the car, I fitted new Mazda suspension arms to give me less chance of busting a ball joint on em ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
Reminded me gotta watch the kerbs when you come to Combe with the new track limits rules for penalties...when i watch on tsl they handed out quite a few 5 sec penalties last year....mainly the chicanes where its easy to cut.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
Two up is OK ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 04:37:07 PM
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 04:37:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p64AD91o46A
Clive....see what i mean....follow the first lap....if these tyres are staying theyve ruined combe for me!!! seems a dangerous place to put them for a trackday
Clive....see what i mean....follow the first lap....if these tyres are staying theyve ruined combe for me!!! seems a dangerous place to put them for a trackday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 02, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
I had a look and would say they are only out there for track days and maybe it was just a trial.
Wow this made me remember back a few years to an event where we were confronted with some "trial" tyres to keep us off the kerbs where there were none previously! ,
After winning the first two races I actually fell foul of the damn things when I clipped one while leading the third race and broke my steering.
Could have been worse though, as I found out later that a guy in a Capri clipped them and broke his thumb. :(
Wow this made me remember back a few years to an event where we were confronted with some "trial" tyres to keep us off the kerbs where there were none previously! ,
After winning the first two races I actually fell foul of the damn things when I clipped one while leading the third race and broke my steering.
Could have been worse though, as I found out later that a guy in a Capri clipped them and broke his thumb. :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 09:48:47 PM
If the 2nd set of tyres are there when im on track ill have to slow it down through the chicanes as im always right on the limit there...2 best bits of the circuits imo.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
Post by: boosted on March 02, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
First set quite nice to gage the apex though...it you clout your wing mirror your perfect lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 03, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
Post by: clive on March 03, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
I have been sent a few pics from Snetterton in the morning when it was wet.
O, and a pic of Phil's car
O, and a pic of Phil's car
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 03, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 03, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
4th picture looks like a lot of other people "dirt drop" the rears there too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 03, 2017, 11:51:37 AM
Post by: Casey on March 03, 2017, 11:51:37 AM
Fantastic pictures :13: - must've been a great lens to get those photos in the dim light, very impressive.
Loving the RX-8 dirt drifting ;)
Loving the RX-8 dirt drifting ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
That really is a great 3rd photo. Photographer captured the action perfectly.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 06, 2017, 12:52:27 PM
Post by: boosted on March 06, 2017, 12:52:27 PM
Where are this years race dates Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 06, 2017, 01:18:59 PM
Post by: re japi on March 06, 2017, 01:18:59 PM
Yes, really nice photos :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 08, 2017, 08:04:04 PM
Post by: clive on March 08, 2017, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 06, 2017, 12:52:27 PM
Where are this years race dates Clive?
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Sorry Jon, here we go.
DATES AND VENUES TARC 2017 and MSVR Allcomers (my proposed race schedule car and finance permitting)
25 MARCH SNETTERTON
17 APRIL CASTLE COMBE
01 May 2017 Brands Hatch GP MotorSport Vision Racing
27 MAY OULTON PARK
19 June 2017 Rockingham ISSC MotorSport Vision Racing
1 JULY ROCKINGHAM (won't be doing this one)
12 AUG DONNINGTON
12/13 August 2017 Snetterton 300 MotorSport Vision Racing
02 September 2017 Brands Hatch Indy MotorSport Vision Racing
3 SEP THRUXTON
24 SEP MALLORY (not sure this one will happen as I have read that Mallory have cut their schedule )
15 OCTOBER AUTUMN TROPHY SILVERSTONE INTERNATIONAL BRSCC
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 08, 2017, 08:05:38 PM
Post by: boosted on March 08, 2017, 08:05:38 PM
Cool hoping to make Snetterton and defo Combe.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2017, 08:56:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 08, 2017, 08:56:58 PM
Ooh donnington...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 17, 2017, 07:49:03 PM
Post by: clive on March 17, 2017, 07:49:03 PM
Going to be a long old day next Saturday
Nippon Challenge Qualifying 09:00
Nippon Challenge 11:25 11:40
Nippon Challenge 17:05 17:20
Nippon Challenge Qualifying 09:00
Nippon Challenge 11:25 11:40
Nippon Challenge 17:05 17:20
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 17, 2017, 08:27:24 PM
Post by: boosted on March 17, 2017, 08:27:24 PM
If your 2 tired for the 2nd race ill bring me pajama suit and license!!!!
Seriously hoping to attend...just gotta see near the time if able.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2017, 11:55:27 PM
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2017, 11:55:27 PM
:icon_thumright: Good, I still plan to be there for practice and the first two races before I have to dash back for the Colchester United game :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 18, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
Post by: clive on March 18, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 17, 2017, 08:27:24 PM
If your 2 tired for the 2nd race ill bring me pajama suit and license!!!!
Seriously hoping to attend...just gotta see near the time if able.
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Thanks for the offer Jon but even at my age I should be OK :(, something wrong if i'm not as I used to do 3 or 4 races in quick succession when I was in National Hot Rods with some finals being 50 laps or more, one was a 100 laper that I was leading nicely near the end and then slit into the barrier to later find out I had worn the NSF to the cords, hence no grip! ;)
Here's a link to the event http://www.snetterton.co.uk/calendar/2017/march/msvr.aspx
I notice that the other series I'm looking at entering is straight after both my races.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 10:13:46 AM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 10:13:46 AM
Would that be the MSVR all comers...? Ill have a look at regs....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2017, 01:23:20 PM
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2017, 01:23:20 PM
Ticket for Snetterton next Saturday purchased (£10 online in advance, £15 at the gate on the day) :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 18, 2017, 02:00:32 PM
Post by: clive on March 18, 2017, 02:00:32 PM
That's the one Jon and your car would fit this nicely ;)
Malcolm, great picture you have found of Phil's car :great:
Malcolm, great picture you have found of Phil's car :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 02:06:17 PM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 02:06:17 PM
im just about to have a read of regs!!!! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 02:31:17 PM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2017, 02:31:17 PM
:sign0098: i like it Clive quali and 2 races for £285....bargain....plus everything pretty much free ....but no classes structure i could see....first pass the post deal?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
Hi Clive, unfortunately i cant make it tomoz .....but wanted to wish you the very best of luck . I wiIl be following on TSL timing with my worry beads chattering...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
Well, weather looking good for tomorrow, so I think I'll take the RX-7 FB (KIM 2) up to Snetterton tomorrow to give her a run out. Hope to arrive there around 7.30am or so.
I'll aim to do some "live reporting" and pics via the MRC Facebook page, if I can get a mobile signal (can be iffy on O2 up there!)
Fingers crossed for a successful day's racing for all the rotary entrants (Paul, Phil, Clive and maybe more?) :13:
Asian Challenge Provisional Timetable:
Qually - 09.00
1st Race - 11.25
2nd Race - 17.05
I'll aim to do some "live reporting" and pics via the MRC Facebook page, if I can get a mobile signal (can be iffy on O2 up there!)
Fingers crossed for a successful day's racing for all the rotary entrants (Paul, Phil, Clive and maybe more?) :13:
Asian Challenge Provisional Timetable:
Qually - 09.00
1st Race - 11.25
2nd Race - 17.05
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
Best of luck for everyone and have fun
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2017, 08:14:23 AM
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2017, 08:14:23 AM
Yep, good luck and have fun :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:05:10 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:05:10 AM
Qualifying all good followed on TSL timing...you can watch the race lap times/ positions on there live . 3rd in class :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 10:11:26 AM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 10:11:26 AM
From Lisa :sign0098:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=MSVR/2017/171251nip.pdf
http://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=MSVR/2017/171251nip.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 10:14:46 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 10:14:46 AM
Phil turned the power up for that lap!!
lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 11:25:51 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 11:25:51 AM
Commentary as well on Tsl.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on March 25, 2017, 05:55:44 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on March 25, 2017, 05:55:44 PM
Clive well done on what looks like a useful day with two race finishes after all of the trials and tribulations. I hope it was a good learning exercise for the rest of the year.
We hope to make it to Combe on Easter Monday to round off a full weekend of motorsport (WEC Silverstone)
Dave
We hope to make it to Combe on Easter Monday to round off a full weekend of motorsport (WEC Silverstone)
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 06:16:56 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 06:16:56 PM
From Lisa :sign0098:
Final results http://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=MSVR/2017/171251nip.pdf
Final results http://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=MSVR/2017/171251nip.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Got some silverware....woohoo.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
We need vids lol no vids it didnt happen!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:09:32 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:09:32 PM
I spoke to Clive on the phone on his way back home from Snettertonthis evening. He was very chirpy about the day and I'm sure he'll post up his report on the day soon, so I won't steal his thunder ;)
However, a pic is in order; Clive bombing down the main Bentley Straight in the first race of the day :)
However, a pic is in order; Clive bombing down the main Bentley Straight in the first race of the day :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:12:37 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:12:37 PM
Maybe just one more ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:12:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:12:48 PM
That's a great photo. Bonnet looks like it's lifting??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
Interesting observation Grant, as it looks OK in this shot, where the car would have been travelling much slower out of the hairpin at Agostini, there is no visible gap. In the previous pic, the car would have been doing around 110mph.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:21:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:21:43 PM
You can see it on the rear shot too. I found my cf bonnet on the rx7 did that at high speed and was terrified of it popping off. Maybe a couple more fasteners required in the middle for clive? Stop it flexing just incase it creates an incident.
Never had an issue with a stock bonnet on the fd though
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
I really, seriously, felt physically awful as I saw the build up to this incident with Phil Collard's car develop through my camera lens :(
So sorry Phil's race, and day, had to end like this as all was going so well up to this point. The shot is a bit hazy as it's taken through the oil fire haze that came from Phil's car. That's his rear screen "popping off" ???
So sorry Phil's race, and day, had to end like this as all was going so well up to this point. The shot is a bit hazy as it's taken through the oil fire haze that came from Phil's car. That's his rear screen "popping off" ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
Holy crap!! What was problem? Seen something like this before, sump ripped open on a curb on a drift car, petrol soaked rotary oil hit the exhaust and whumf fire balls every where
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
This was a few seconds earlier, as Phil came past me, oil smoke for the rear and something "hooked" on the diffuser...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:33:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:33:32 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170325/8925da97f2e9cf22d4f070d75464400d.jpg)
Dmac sump fire
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:34:30 PM
Post by: Casey on March 25, 2017, 09:34:30 PM
Interesting, it could be a piece of the sump on the diffuser, as a few seconds before that pic was taken, Phil ran wide on the entry to Bentley Straight and there was a huge cloud of dirt fly up. I know that kerb is pretty viscous, so it's feasible Phil "straddled" the kerb and caught the sump. Mere speculation on my part though. There was a huge shower of sparks from under the middle part of the the car as it went past that you can't see in the photo.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 25, 2017, 09:39:31 PM
That chunk hanging off looks like something that could have damaged the sump, oil weeped then eventually enough puked out and set on fire. At a guess anyway
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on March 25, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
Post by: rote8 on March 25, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
:icon_thumright: Well done Clive some good times and a deserved result after all the problems of the past. :sign0098: Just sorry I could not make it.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
Oh my god thats terrible....glad hes ok...how come the rear screen pop out....impact of kerb? Sump is high on fd...mustve been hella of clout.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:24:10 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:24:10 PM
If you zoom in on first photo you can see corner off rear screen lifted...like its popped.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:30:53 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2017, 10:30:53 PM
And that first oil smoke photo you can see red under engine area of car. Not a good day the commentry said it was flying then last lap this happens. Faultless before.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 10:51:25 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 10:51:25 PM
First of all, huge commiserations to Phil :(----------so upsetting to see this carnage the was the same as I had at Brands but without the fire, detonation led to a broken front plate and then the oil spayed and caught light :c002:.
I know what was said about the kerb but the oil was from halfway down the long straight not off the corner :( :(
Phil if you reading this, I know its going to be tough to go forward, but you have built a car that today showed amazing speed to combat that well sorted super quick Subaru
I know what was said about the kerb but the oil was from halfway down the long straight not off the corner :( :(
Phil if you reading this, I know its going to be tough to go forward, but you have built a car that today showed amazing speed to combat that well sorted super quick Subaru
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
OK, real eventful day for lots of reasons with the Race car, but although I have an issue (more of that later ) I actually completed 10 laps of qualifying plus both races finished :).
Should really have turned 4th place on the grid into something better but I messed up the handling by going in the wrong direction adjusting my EDFC shock settings the wrong way. :( this resulted in two complete off's plus the wastegate stuck leaving me with no boost for half a lap and then it sorted itself ???
After dealing with pig understeer and a no grip back end which sent me off the track twice, on the second to last lap I softened the front and made the back stiffer and the car immediately felt better, turns out I was adjusting in the wrong direction making the car progressively worse until the end of the race .
Looked forward to the next race at the end of the day "but" with so many races and cars with issues almost everywhere on the track there was oil and cement dust from oil on just about every area of the track whist the car felt better the car was a second slower that the best in the previous race due to the slippery track.
If the camera recorded OK you will find I then battled with two front wheel drive cars which were with me the whole race due to the grip they could find on a junk track, got to say that like me they were racing hard but fair and I played cat and mouse a couple of times letting them go through on parts where they were much quicker knowing I could get them back in other places on the circuit which I did. 5th overall was not where I wanted to be, but the three of us battled the whole race making it very enjoyable, but in turn frustrating for all three of us!
Remember the sticking wastegate, well on the slowing down lap it came back to bite me with clouds of billowing smoke from a blown turbo , but at least the engine and box etc are all fine, just got to start developing the car to find it some decent speed plus find a £700 sponsor to recore the turbo ;)
Felt quite embarrassing to come away with two class trophy's, a third in the first and a first according to the results in the second, although I was given a second place trophy plus fastest lap in class as the on track results were lowly 8th and 5th positions.
Should really have turned 4th place on the grid into something better but I messed up the handling by going in the wrong direction adjusting my EDFC shock settings the wrong way. :( this resulted in two complete off's plus the wastegate stuck leaving me with no boost for half a lap and then it sorted itself ???
After dealing with pig understeer and a no grip back end which sent me off the track twice, on the second to last lap I softened the front and made the back stiffer and the car immediately felt better, turns out I was adjusting in the wrong direction making the car progressively worse until the end of the race .
Looked forward to the next race at the end of the day "but" with so many races and cars with issues almost everywhere on the track there was oil and cement dust from oil on just about every area of the track whist the car felt better the car was a second slower that the best in the previous race due to the slippery track.
If the camera recorded OK you will find I then battled with two front wheel drive cars which were with me the whole race due to the grip they could find on a junk track, got to say that like me they were racing hard but fair and I played cat and mouse a couple of times letting them go through on parts where they were much quicker knowing I could get them back in other places on the circuit which I did. 5th overall was not where I wanted to be, but the three of us battled the whole race making it very enjoyable, but in turn frustrating for all three of us!
Remember the sticking wastegate, well on the slowing down lap it came back to bite me with clouds of billowing smoke from a blown turbo , but at least the engine and box etc are all fine, just got to start developing the car to find it some decent speed plus find a £700 sponsor to recore the turbo ;)
Felt quite embarrassing to come away with two class trophy's, a third in the first and a first according to the results in the second, although I was given a second place trophy plus fastest lap in class as the on track results were lowly 8th and 5th positions.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2017, 08:14:42 AM
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2017, 08:14:42 AM
Holy hell, Phil's car on fire pic is awfull... :/ Happy to hear that he is ok though. But car...?
Well, I know you arent happy with those results and difficulties, but you have to think the bright side. You did finish, and quite good result, and there is no massive damages in the car.
Even though car and setup wasn't the best, she showed that she is quite fast. Right? :)
Umm, is that fast Subaru that orange colored one?
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Well, I know you arent happy with those results and difficulties, but you have to think the bright side. You did finish, and quite good result, and there is no massive damages in the car.
Even though car and setup wasn't the best, she showed that she is quite fast. Right? :)
Umm, is that fast Subaru that orange colored one?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
I listened to the commentary and they said you where smoking down the pitlane....that clears that up couldve been worse.
I say blimin good job..finished both races at the pointy end.....this is the start of the development year on the pace.
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I say blimin good job..finished both races at the pointy end.....this is the start of the development year on the pace.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 26, 2017, 09:53:02 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 26, 2017, 09:53:02 AM
Well I was partly right about the oil catching fire. Cracked front plate is worse that a knocked sump.
Was also right about Clive's turbo causing a bit of smoke too.
Clive although I can't sponsor you £700 I do have a borgwarner turbo sat around an an SX366 you could borrow. Never been used although it's not a ball bearing turbo so wont spoil as quick,
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Was also right about Clive's turbo causing a bit of smoke too.
Clive although I can't sponsor you £700 I do have a borgwarner turbo sat around an an SX366 you could borrow. Never been used although it's not a ball bearing turbo so wont spoil as quick,
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 26, 2017, 12:45:54 PM
Post by: clive on March 26, 2017, 12:45:54 PM
Thanks people and also Grant for the offer.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
Where the vids!!!! :P :33: :33: :33:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 05:16:33 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 05:16:33 AM
VIDS!!!! :D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2017, 09:07:10 AM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2017, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 26, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
Where the vids!!!! :P :33: :33: :33:
Down loaded the GoPro but the files are so large I will have to take the card to a friend of mine who will edit and upload over the next few days,
Long term I need a better solution.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8NYAt-4A0A
here the 7 incident...real shame....gonna be a lot of work to resurrect....can some explain this front plate cracking incident? engine flex?
here the 7 incident...real shame....gonna be a lot of work to resurrect....can some explain this front plate cracking incident? engine flex?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 09:46:27 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 09:46:27 AM
Holy crap... :( brakes my heart...
But once again, I have said this before and will say it again: on board fire extinguisher system would have save from massive damages... They are cheap, doesent weight so much, and they will destroy that fire almost before that fire even starts...
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But once again, I have said this before and will say it again: on board fire extinguisher system would have save from massive damages... They are cheap, doesent weight so much, and they will destroy that fire almost before that fire even starts...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 09:56:59 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2017, 09:56:59 AM
And Phil and others, I didn't meant to be rude with my previous comment. I do apologize.. Really brakes my heart to see that kind of damage... :(
But the fact is, what one notorius racer here said years ago:
"With 400â,¬ fire extinguisher system, you can save 40000â,¬ car, within 4 seconds..."
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But the fact is, what one notorius racer here said years ago:
"With 400â,¬ fire extinguisher system, you can save 40000â,¬ car, within 4 seconds..."
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on March 27, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Post by: C J R on March 27, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Well .......firstly sorry to Phil, that looked pretty eventful, you should be commended for remaining calm by trying to pull the extinguisher release whilst you were still strapped in ! At least your okay and the car can be replaced/rebuilt.
Clive Well Done. Lets forget the track conditions and wobbly suspension. Practice laps and two races and you came home with Silver wear. That is poles away from where the car has been for the last two years. Great news and well done. Just think...now you know which buttons to press for the suspension and will have a new turbo... :13: for the next race :))
Clive Well Done. Lets forget the track conditions and wobbly suspension. Practice laps and two races and you came home with Silver wear. That is poles away from where the car has been for the last two years. Great news and well done. Just think...now you know which buttons to press for the suspension and will have a new turbo... :13: for the next race :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:00:42 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:00:42 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 27, 2017, 09:26:05 AMYeh pretty much from what I can work out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8NYAt-4A0A
here the 7 incident...real shame....gonna be a lot of work to resurrect....can some explain this front plate cracking incident? engine flex?
The detonation has to go somewhere as set is very violent so it will often take out the weakest link. Which is the front plate. All of the billet parts that people make now come with a bearing in the front plate, I'm assuming this is to help that problem.
Iv seen a few builds over the years where the oil take off for the turbos is the place where it cracks, sometimes due too people using the wrong types of thread on the threaded fitting etc.
There's a couple things that can be done too help strengthen the engine. Some cheap some not.
A plate on the bottom of the engine between the sump is good, 1/4" minimum but obviously lowers the sump etc.
Doweling kits, requires lots of machining etc.
I don't think you could go wrong with also having a flex plate too mount the front of the engine too the chassis, a lot like the drag cars have.
There's also ecu controlling/sensing set which can shut things down a lot faster than a person looking at a gauge can do. Having a det threshold where ignition is cut or fuel or something.
Better to lose a few milliseconds on a lap than an engine/turbo/car etc
This is stuff Iv picked up from watching and reading
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:15:02 AM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:15:02 AM
Scary stuff....thanks. so the car will need new engine and fire damage repair...jesus that hard to swallow. Truly gutted for him. I know when i crashed mine i was sick to the stomach....not a nice feeling. Lol 1 crash 3rd engine still hangin on....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:15:02 AMI don't know he might get away with a rotor and a front plate but depends what's happened inside. Bearings and stat gear might be dead also
Scary stuff....thanks. so the car will need new engine and fire damage repair...jesus that hard to swallow. Truly gutted for him. I know when i crashed mine i was sick to the stomach....not a nice feeling. Lol 1 crash 3rd engine still hangin on....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:18:15 AM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:18:15 AM
This is 2nd time this has happened ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:36:03 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 08:36:03 AM
Not sure, it happened too clive on one of his engines
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiDosnz1fjSAhXIIMAKHcN2DKoQtwIIHTAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dvk3UC4fYLO8&usg=AFQjCNFaAQH0w3K_Ipcf5hr22MMaPf8NUw&sig2=LTBbm3zIXIEDzRrcb7oMNg
i found this Plenty of Clive and the incident...........
i found this Plenty of Clive and the incident...........
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 28, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
Post by: Prototype on March 28, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
Here is the on board video from Clives car. Snetterton 25th March 2017.
Race 1
Race 2
WELL DONE CLIVE ;)
Race 1
Race 2
WELL DONE CLIVE ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
Enjoyed that. Looked to be a bit of a lonely drive in the second race but obviously we can't see what's behind you.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
:sign0098: woohoo rush home to watch on it on tv!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 04:56:07 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 04:56:07 PM
Looked like a lot of fun BEEP BEEP...was that you Roadrunner?
Just an observation....car seemsfast and flowing in the right hander but in the left handers fair bit of tyre screeching....defo seem faster in the right corners....poss the left handers covered in cement dust.
Just an observation....car seemsfast and flowing in the right hander but in the left handers fair bit of tyre screeching....defo seem faster in the right corners....poss the left handers covered in cement dust.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 05:16:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 05:16:32 PM
Oh yeh who the hell was beeping!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 05:47:54 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2017, 05:47:54 PM
....roadrunner...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
Daft question but why the stock steering wheel clive? Better too not have a quick release one?
Or does taking it up cause faults with the ecu?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 28, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
Enjoyed that. Looked to be a bit of a lonely drive in the second race but obviously we can't see what's behind you.
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In the second race it was far from lonely as I had these two in the picture behind and sometimes in front all race long, they got me once when I missed a gear and chucked it in 6th instead of 4th and as they were so quick in the tighter corners I actually let them go a couple of times knowing I could get them back in other places till the last lap when I decided to put some space between them and myself to ensure I beat them to the line.
The smaller cars are not to be underestimated, power to weight ratio and all that ;) Mind you hopefully with some development I won't have these buzzing around me forever, give em their due they both worked very hard and fairly to pester me.
Steering wheel is just sans air bag as I like the stock wheel / hence Beep Beep on the hairpin :D
p.s as for can't see behind me, my friend Philip who posted the video suggested a second mirror ;)
p.p.s I will say the camera is great as I can see properly AFR, EGT, Oil and Water readings after the event to check all is well :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Trackday at Combe on 15th May...www.motorsport-events.com....very well run and only 36 places so plenty of track time open pit and no hold ups on track....im going....get her dialed in....play with dsc?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
Lol forget that....having 1 of those days...month to late doh. Left my card in a reader today aswell and went home...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 14, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
Post by: clive on April 14, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
Quick update, out again Monday@ Castle Coombe.
Car is now equipped with a brand new Garrett core rather than a rebuild (price was not much different),mind you I thought this was still no good as it took about an hour off and on to get the clouds of smoke to clear !!
Now back with my center exhaust straight system with an extra box to get it down from 106db as I know the twin exit was strangling the car (it was mapped on the single free flowing one so it will be OK)
Also fitted an 11 psi spring to hold the wastgate closed better, had I done this previously I might not have lost the Turbo as stuck open and the Turbo was allowed to spin itself to death.
As you will see from the time table, it should be a good meeting just to spectate.
Car is now equipped with a brand new Garrett core rather than a rebuild (price was not much different),mind you I thought this was still no good as it took about an hour off and on to get the clouds of smoke to clear !!
Now back with my center exhaust straight system with an extra box to get it down from 106db as I know the twin exit was strangling the car (it was mapped on the single free flowing one so it will be OK)
Also fitted an 11 psi spring to hold the wastgate closed better, had I done this previously I might not have lost the Turbo as stuck open and the Turbo was allowed to spin itself to death.
As you will see from the time table, it should be a good meeting just to spectate.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 14, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Post by: boosted on April 14, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
See you there! Woohoo...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on April 17, 2017, 09:56:08 AM
Post by: rote8 on April 17, 2017, 09:56:08 AM
Best of luck today Clive. I'll be keeping everything crossed. :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 12:35:44 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 12:35:44 PM
All ok atmo...scrutineering noise qualification all done...Naughty Clive dropped a few grid places for "exceeding track limits" Combe seem very strict this year onit as lots of competitors being pulled up.
Personally i timed a 1.18 but they used a 1.19.9 for qualify above ..
Clive still setting it up...theres more in there....
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Personally i timed a 1.18 but they used a 1.19.9 for qualify above ..
Clive still setting it up...theres more in there....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
Exceeding track limits pfft. They get so upset with cars going on there grass
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
Thx Jon :icon_thumleft:
Just seen the TSL published qually results, Clive 10th on the grid for the first race. I see that he Subaru that was very fast at Snetterton in the last race has qualified fastest with a 1m14.968 ??? That'll be hard to beat, as he's over 2 secs quicker than anyone else :(
Live timing and results here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668 (http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668)
for anyone who wants to take a look - Clive racing at 13.55 and 17.20
Just seen the TSL published qually results, Clive 10th on the grid for the first race. I see that he Subaru that was very fast at Snetterton in the last race has qualified fastest with a 1m14.968 ??? That'll be hard to beat, as he's over 2 secs quicker than anyone else :(
Live timing and results here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668 (http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668)
for anyone who wants to take a look - Clive racing at 13.55 and 17.20
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
2 seconds and they're all 400hp..... I'm no race car driver but I am a little sceptical.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
Clive's race just started, must've been delayed.
First lap completed and Clive's up one place to 9th.
Live timing here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668 (http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668)
First lap completed and Clive's up one place to 9th.
Live timing here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668 (http://www.tsl-timing.com/event/171668)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
Up to 7th on lap 5 of 15, laptime coming down to 1m17.729s. Leader lapping in 1m15 to 1m16s
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
First race over.
Clive 7th with best lap of 1m17.729 (none too shabby :13:), only 21 secs behind winner.
8th placed car was 13.8 secs behind Clive :)
Winner's best lap was 1m15.949s, but I suspect he eased off after a few laps as he had a 12 second lead at one point, but 4 secs at the end.
Good luck in the 2nd race Clive, good to see 3 places gained off the grid and a good laptime in 1st race :icon_thumleft:
Clive 7th with best lap of 1m17.729 (none too shabby :13:), only 21 secs behind winner.
8th placed car was 13.8 secs behind Clive :)
Winner's best lap was 1m15.949s, but I suspect he eased off after a few laps as he had a 12 second lead at one point, but 4 secs at the end.
Good luck in the 2nd race Clive, good to see 3 places gained off the grid and a good laptime in 1st race :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 02:47:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 02:47:18 PM
What's was Clive's class result?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
2nd in SGT class.
Seems like there were only 2 SGT cars on the grid (Phil Colard out and Paul Buckmaster out). The other SGT car being the overall winner, Lee Gillard, in a Subaru
Seems like there were only 2 SGT cars on the grid (Phil Colard out and Paul Buckmaster out). The other SGT car being the overall winner, Lee Gillard, in a Subaru
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
All good here....another trophy for Clive....power steering cut out out half way so Clive got a work out...lol..came in dripping wet!..
Got a 1.17.7 me thinks before eps issue...7th overall.
It fixed it self so where spectating til next race.
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Got a 1.17.7 me thinks before eps issue...7th overall.
It fixed it self so where spectating til next race.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 17, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
I think that why clive kept the stock steering wheel, just so he had a bit of leverage to turn the car of the power steering crapped out lol. Well done clive, hope your having fun.
Now..... I have many hole saws of varying sizes to make it the car lighter
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
Still here...2nd race...Clive waiting for restart after an on track incident with other competitor..loads of incidents here today...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 06:12:08 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 06:12:08 PM
Saw the Red Flag on TSL, then it said "Race Finished"??
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:09:19 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:09:19 PM
Yes Casey..3 car pile up first lap..Clive NOT involved...abandoned....im home...Clive prob on M4 now.
Good day out.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
Thx for the update Jon :icon_thumleft: I guessed something serious had happened as Clive's race, and the one after it, never appeared on TSL.
Glad Clive not involved and hope no-one else injured either.
Roll on the next race in the series :13:
Glad Clive not involved and hope no-one else injured either.
Roll on the next race in the series :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:25:07 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:25:07 PM
Quick round up...
Car fine Clive still setting up and getting a feel for it but power steering issue 2nd half of race made a real struggle. Unfortunately a big gap between race 1 n race 2 which due to incident was red flagged....but car running fine no issues or fixing jobs todo.
Anthony Weeks in saloons in his rx8 looked very racy and car finished unsure of position but looked a good solid result.
Phil Buckmaster rx7 had a issue in qualification ...talk of boost increase and engine failure...engine 7 years old so not a bad innings atall...
Incidents all day so last 2 races cancelled...marshalls had a very busy day as cars beaten up pretty much every race...they where running 50 mins late for Clives 2nd race.
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Car fine Clive still setting up and getting a feel for it but power steering issue 2nd half of race made a real struggle. Unfortunately a big gap between race 1 n race 2 which due to incident was red flagged....but car running fine no issues or fixing jobs todo.
Anthony Weeks in saloons in his rx8 looked very racy and car finished unsure of position but looked a good solid result.
Phil Buckmaster rx7 had a issue in qualification ...talk of boost increase and engine failure...engine 7 years old so not a bad innings atall...
Incidents all day so last 2 races cancelled...marshalls had a very busy day as cars beaten up pretty much every race...they where running 50 mins late for Clives 2nd race.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:28:48 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2017, 07:28:48 PM
A car ended up on its roof at folly...race start...hope driver ok...it was sheeted off...which is never a good sign. Fingers x ok.
Funny we nearly missed the first race drinking coffee in the tavern...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
Post by: Casey on April 17, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
??? "car on roof" - eek, hope driver OK.
Anthony was 4th in Class, with a fastest lap of 1:19.785, 17th overall. Solid result, but I'll bet he'll be disappointed not to finish higher.
Anthony was 4th in Class, with a fastest lap of 1:19.785, 17th overall. Solid result, but I'll bet he'll be disappointed not to finish higher.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on April 17, 2017, 10:42:41 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on April 17, 2017, 10:42:41 PM
It was good to catch up with Clive Jon and Carl today at Castle Combe. Sane the day ran late due to many incident packed races especially Clive's last one which was red flagged on the first lap. I hope all were Ok from the incident and as always the circuit rescue and emergency crews appeared to be on the scene very quickly.
I am glad that Clive's car appeared to have got over early problems so that it is now possible to develop further. Certainly the way of developing a small amount of smoke coming to the grid after having sat idling was a sure way to get the commentators attention and start the reminiscences about Le Mans in 1991.
The following are a few random shots from the day.
Dave
I am glad that Clive's car appeared to have got over early problems so that it is now possible to develop further. Certainly the way of developing a small amount of smoke coming to the grid after having sat idling was a sure way to get the commentators attention and start the reminiscences about Le Mans in 1991.
The following are a few random shots from the day.
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on April 18, 2017, 07:37:17 AM
Post by: C J R on April 18, 2017, 07:37:17 AM
Well done Clive, another race completed and a bit more data to compute in to tinkering :D
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Post by: re japi on April 18, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Post by: re japi on April 18, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Yes, really good result. Car is slowly becoming a beast that everyone supposed it to be. And ofcourse, good driving sir :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 18, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
Post by: Casey on April 18, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
Great to see you had a reliable race Clive (even if the steering needs some attention ;)), managing to climb up a few places from your grid position.
Shame about the aborted 2nd race though :(
Shame about the aborted 2nd race though :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9twzrvWUNc
little vid...
little vid...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 18, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
Many thanks for coming along and for the assistance (and the pictures)
More of the car another time as sadly the event was tainted by the post race outcome with the stark reminder that motor racing is dangerous.
As those attending know there was a big crash at the start of the second race toward the back of the large grid and today we had an update.
Three of the drivers went off to hospital with two released and one still in with a broken back :(
More of the car another time as sadly the event was tainted by the post race outcome with the stark reminder that motor racing is dangerous.
As those attending know there was a big crash at the start of the second race toward the back of the large grid and today we had an update.
Three of the drivers went off to hospital with two released and one still in with a broken back :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
Post by: boosted on April 19, 2017, 04:22:08 PM
you where very lucky Clive not to get collected by the pug....
Hope all the drivers involved ok and wishy them a speedy recovery...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fymoG2zirrg
Hope all the drivers involved ok and wishy them a speedy recovery...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fymoG2zirrg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 19, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
Post by: clive on April 19, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
Thanks Jon,
This was the first race then,
It looks like the MX-5 was the culprit and I understand he caused the big one and now has few weeks ban.
My friend has my card and it will be interesting to see at least the start from my camera.
This was the first race then,
It looks like the MX-5 was the culprit and I understand he caused the big one and now has few weeks ban.
My friend has my card and it will be interesting to see at least the start from my camera.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on April 20, 2017, 02:33:38 PM
Post by: Prototype on April 20, 2017, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: clive on April 19, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
Thanks Jon,
This was the first race then,
It looks like the MX-5 was the culprit and I understand he caused the big one and now has few weeks ban.
My friend has my card and it will be interesting to see at least the start from my camera.
Sorry for the delay. Here is the on board from Clives car :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Nice vid! So, Im quessing that hitting that car was really really close?
Damn that car sounds good!
Any idea why that powersteering broke?
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Any idea why that powersteering broke?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 20, 2017, 05:36:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 20, 2017, 05:36:49 PM
Is everyone else extremely slow off the line or is clive super fast??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
Post by: re japi on April 20, 2017, 06:14:25 PM
It seems to me that he jumped the light and then burned the tyres :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 20, 2017, 06:15:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 20, 2017, 06:15:21 PM
Quote from: re japi on April 20, 2017, 06:14:25 PMHappens in the other video too
It seems to me that he jumped the light and then burned the tyres :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 20, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Post by: boosted on April 20, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Just a bit keen me thinks....lol..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2017, 10:24:25 AM
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2017, 10:24:25 AM
Clive, please check your PMs :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 21, 2017, 10:27:07 PM
Post by: clive on April 21, 2017, 10:27:07 PM
Bit of an event update for you, especially for those who attended.
Just 24 hours after young Billy Monger's terrible accident at Donington Park, Track Attack Race Club driver Craig Walker was involved in a multi-car accident at the Castle Combe circuit in Wiltshire, in which he regrettably sustained injuries including three broken vertebra in his back.
Sadly the poor guy from race two has been told that there is still the possibility he will suffer long term permanent disability. It is understood that because of the spinal cord risks they are unable to operate as they would like.
A page has been set up on this link.
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/craigwalker
Just 24 hours after young Billy Monger's terrible accident at Donington Park, Track Attack Race Club driver Craig Walker was involved in a multi-car accident at the Castle Combe circuit in Wiltshire, in which he regrettably sustained injuries including three broken vertebra in his back.
Sadly the poor guy from race two has been told that there is still the possibility he will suffer long term permanent disability. It is understood that because of the spinal cord risks they are unable to operate as they would like.
A page has been set up on this link.
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/craigwalker
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 21, 2017, 11:17:25 PM
Post by: clive on April 21, 2017, 11:17:25 PM
Race car / Coombe update/
Leading up to the event I managed to get a small silencer in the system to get my central exhaust back on which got the car down from 106db to 96db which means I now have some room to make up a rear diffuser.
As for the event, shoved down the grid from the second row to row five for being naughty boy, in-spite of keeping two wheels on the black stuff ::)
For the race I immediately got the times down to at least something a bit more competitive and can see that this time on best laps I was 1.8 seconds adrift of the big power Subaru--------with more speed to come from the car (*and me*)
After a junk start the Car balance was good with even tyre pressures on every corner when I got back to the pits, and although the pressures were high it shows we are going in the right direction.
As you have already read, after a few laps, I clipped the kerb coming onto the main straight and the jolt killed the power steering and if ever you have had this you will know that, god its a pig to steer, as it not only takes effort to turn but also it wont centralise, so you have to drag the steering back straight again.
Took a little effort to steer and it made my skin leak so much I had to stop on an escape road to clean my glasses so I could see to drive into the pits ::)
Biggest problem for lack of pace was wrong diff gearing and even Carl (Hayward) could hear from the outside that I was having to feather the throttle out at times which costs loads of time.
Looking forward I now know the car needs some better Aero to get some bite on the ground plus higher gearing.
Already started with removing the lower wing as some felt it was causing drag and not letting the big wing work efficiently . ( see new rear picture below)
Also I have removed the nose to build some big canards to find front bite, but most of all, I have found an Auto RX-8 diff which will raise the gearing to where I want it, with the plus side of a longer more usable 1st gear off the line to give better starts.
Then lastly now I have the central exhaust tucked up high, I can build a rear diffuser to clear some air out from under the car.
Touch wood, with the car now finally reliable I can start developing the car to find some speed out of it.
I have also bought a new steering wiring loom so that should sort the steering issue as well
Many thanks go to every one who has either assisted or just stuck with me to get the car this far :great:
Leading up to the event I managed to get a small silencer in the system to get my central exhaust back on which got the car down from 106db to 96db which means I now have some room to make up a rear diffuser.
As for the event, shoved down the grid from the second row to row five for being naughty boy, in-spite of keeping two wheels on the black stuff ::)
For the race I immediately got the times down to at least something a bit more competitive and can see that this time on best laps I was 1.8 seconds adrift of the big power Subaru--------with more speed to come from the car (*and me*)
After a junk start the Car balance was good with even tyre pressures on every corner when I got back to the pits, and although the pressures were high it shows we are going in the right direction.
As you have already read, after a few laps, I clipped the kerb coming onto the main straight and the jolt killed the power steering and if ever you have had this you will know that, god its a pig to steer, as it not only takes effort to turn but also it wont centralise, so you have to drag the steering back straight again.
Took a little effort to steer and it made my skin leak so much I had to stop on an escape road to clean my glasses so I could see to drive into the pits ::)
Biggest problem for lack of pace was wrong diff gearing and even Carl (Hayward) could hear from the outside that I was having to feather the throttle out at times which costs loads of time.
Looking forward I now know the car needs some better Aero to get some bite on the ground plus higher gearing.
Already started with removing the lower wing as some felt it was causing drag and not letting the big wing work efficiently . ( see new rear picture below)
Also I have removed the nose to build some big canards to find front bite, but most of all, I have found an Auto RX-8 diff which will raise the gearing to where I want it, with the plus side of a longer more usable 1st gear off the line to give better starts.
Then lastly now I have the central exhaust tucked up high, I can build a rear diffuser to clear some air out from under the car.
Touch wood, with the car now finally reliable I can start developing the car to find some speed out of it.
I have also bought a new steering wiring loom so that should sort the steering issue as well
Many thanks go to every one who has either assisted or just stuck with me to get the car this far :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 22, 2017, 06:34:36 AM
Post by: re japi on April 22, 2017, 06:34:36 AM
Just curious, is that car hard to launch off the line? Too low revs and engine stalls, too high revs smokes the tires?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 22, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
Post by: clive on April 22, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 22, 2017, 06:34:36 AM
Just curious, is that car hard to launch off the line? Too low revs and engine stalls, too high revs smokes the tires?
With the 4.4 rear ratio first is a very short gear and it lights the tyres up as soon as I give it some throttle.
Did play with the idea of trying getting away with 2nd gear as I have with other cars but I know it will bog down.
launching should be better when I get the 4.3 under the car,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 22, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Post by: re japi on April 22, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Can you do "launch control" button system?
You know, there is contollable modules where you can cut ignition in some revs. When you hold the button, module cuts in pre set revs...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 27, 2017, 09:25:42 PM
Post by: clive on May 27, 2017, 09:25:42 PM
Bit of a Race Car up-date.
Of to a track day at Brands Wednesday evening to test the latest mods in preparation for the Race on Sunday at the same venue.
Changed the diff to a 4.3 Auto Diff / then as you will see below in the search for some proper downforce, we now have wings on top of the splitter, full length side skirts to try and tidy the air on the side of the car, plus the lower wing has been removed to try and clean the air flow to the main wing and then lastly the big diffuser under the back . (fingers crossed this finds the car some decent speed)
Of to a track day at Brands Wednesday evening to test the latest mods in preparation for the Race on Sunday at the same venue.
Changed the diff to a 4.3 Auto Diff / then as you will see below in the search for some proper downforce, we now have wings on top of the splitter, full length side skirts to try and tidy the air on the side of the car, plus the lower wing has been removed to try and clean the air flow to the main wing and then lastly the big diffuser under the back . (fingers crossed this finds the car some decent speed)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on May 28, 2017, 01:42:24 AM
Post by: C J R on May 28, 2017, 01:42:24 AM
I like those mods. Good luck for race day
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on May 28, 2017, 07:55:45 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on May 28, 2017, 07:55:45 AM
Good luck for today.
:bravo_2:
:bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2017, 10:01:29 AM
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2017, 10:01:29 AM
Racing today???? TSL timing here we come. Darn prob wouldve come if more organised.
Go get em Clive! good luck and have FUN! :icon_thumleft:
Go get em Clive! good luck and have FUN! :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2017, 10:06:10 AM
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2017, 10:06:10 AM
Must be next Sunday? Nothing on tsl for today?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 28, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
Post by: Casey on May 28, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
It's next Sunday at Brands :)
Saw the front aero last weekend, good to see the rear diffuser now too. Looks very neat, hope it does the job Clive :13:
Saw the front aero last weekend, good to see the rear diffuser now too. Looks very neat, hope it does the job Clive :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2017, 04:58:57 AM
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2017, 04:58:57 AM
Looks good! Good luck :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 30, 2017, 08:33:50 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2017, 08:33:50 PM
Timetable for Brands (Malcolm)
I see we are the track cleaners again for qualifying (first out)
I see we are the track cleaners again for qualifying (first out)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 31, 2017, 09:08:40 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 31, 2017, 09:08:40 AM
Hope this evening goes well Clive and needless to say for even better things at the weekend.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
Quote from: clive on May 30, 2017, 08:33:50 PM;D ;D ;D well, I suppose someone's got to do the cleaning ;)
Timetable for Brands (Malcolm)
I see we are the track cleaners again for qualifying (first out)
Hope it goes well tonight Clive, doesn't look like I'll make it down for that :(, but I intend to get down on Sunday. Realistically, by the time I leave Snetterton, I doubt I'll catch the first race, but 16.30 won't be a problem! Reckon I might get down about 1-2pm, wil bring camera :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 31, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Post by: clive on May 31, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Only got a few laps in maybe 6-7 before getting chucked out for noise / 2 Decibels out on drive by :violent1:
Static Noise: 98Db
Drive by Noise: 87.5Db
Really was a shake down to check the car wasn't lurching itself into violent understeer or oversteer due to the aero mods plus bed some new different pads in.
Tyre pressures came up even all round so no drastic handling changes there, brakes are much more dramatic now so I need to relearn braking distances, plus the gearing has made the car very different but should be better once I have a go at getting to grips with gear change points.
Shame I didn't get more seat time as it means I will have to learn the car in race conditions ;)
Static Noise: 98Db
Drive by Noise: 87.5Db
Really was a shake down to check the car wasn't lurching itself into violent understeer or oversteer due to the aero mods plus bed some new different pads in.
Tyre pressures came up even all round so no drastic handling changes there, brakes are much more dramatic now so I need to relearn braking distances, plus the gearing has made the car very different but should be better once I have a go at getting to grips with gear change points.
Shame I didn't get more seat time as it means I will have to learn the car in race conditions ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2017, 12:58:36 AM
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2017, 12:58:36 AM
Quote from: clive on May 31, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Only got a few laps in maybe 6-7 before getting chucked out for noise / 2 Decibels out on drive by :violent1:
:( :( what a bummer, the noise regs are tighter in the evenings, you'd have been OK on a daytime session! Well at least you got a few laps in to check there was nothing really bad happening.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on June 01, 2017, 05:48:19 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 01, 2017, 05:48:19 PM
Thats a bit OTT bet he's was originally a ticket collector on the buses bloody jobs worth....... :angryfire:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 01, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 01, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
7 laps for how much? I would have demanded my money back, or got the bribe stash out
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 02, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
Wow we are not the lowest of the low this time out, so anyone coming along Sunday will find us in the main garages, not dumped out in the old pits.
Spectators access is via the main grand stand on the start finish straight .
Spectators access is via the main grand stand on the start finish straight .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on June 02, 2017, 10:42:13 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 02, 2017, 10:42:13 PM
wish I could Mate all I can do is mod the beast as for driving august I hope ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on June 03, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
Post by: rote8 on June 03, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: clive on May 31, 2017, 09:48:00 PMShame I didn't get more seat time as it means I will have to learn the car in race conditions ;)
Real shame about the drive by noise limit curtailingthe shake down. :banghead: You don't need me to tell you that most of the learning curve is done under race conditions and on the day, but knowing you you will have it done by the end of qualifying. :notworthy: Best of Luck. :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 03, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 03, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Best of luck clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2017, 10:31:38 AM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2017, 10:31:38 AM
Yep me 2 best of luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2017, 06:48:18 PM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2017, 06:48:18 PM
I was gonna come but i gotta take it easy apparently...ill be listening on TSL.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2017, 10:24:17 AM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2017, 10:24:17 AM
Woohoo..Clive got Pole!!!! :P limited info on Tsl as unusual PDF book with all the runners and laptimes and classes is not available...
race 1 12.30 race 2 4.30....
very good live commentary on tsl timing..... :icon_thumleft:
race 1 12.30 race 2 4.30....
very good live commentary on tsl timing..... :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 04, 2017, 08:55:43 PM
Post by: clive on June 04, 2017, 08:55:43 PM
Funny old day, as you know, I managed to stick it on pole with a 56.1 in front of the Subaru and after qualifying I was very happy with no issues and a car I felt I could get round faster with a little more track time and dip into 55's at least.
All the aero working well even in slower corners with excellent balance and tyre pressures 100% the same on every corner as soon as I came off track :great:
I forgot that pole at Brands means you are facing uphill with 2nd on the grid a much flatter place to start so I knew the 4WD Subaru would lead away and the MR2's with the engines over the wheels would also find much more grip than the RX-8, and I was right !
The promoter warned that the MR2's were nuts and being 3 seconds quicker than the fastest one, try and give them some room--------------however I thought that I would be ok overtaking in a straight line, WRONG ???
Yes I got swamped as expected off the line and half way up to Druids I had a huge gap all the way up the inside that is until an MR2 decided to literally spear across the track to get the inside line maybe stupidly to block me.
I was shown a video and he veers over so abruptly the back of the car actually comes around, with my speed so much greater up the hill I had the choice of a car spearing me in the side or the grass !!!!!!!!!!!
Little did I know that two wheels on the grass is something akin to bouncing across the top of the Himalayas-------result was the splitter digging in and destroying itself in F1 fashion with lots and lots of damage as it passed under the car.
The whole nose cone has gone, rad has a hole, Exhaust pulled off, sump smashed in, front suspension out of line, plus all the rear diffuses torn off .
Car pictured below in the Garage last night and boy O boy it doesn't look like that now!
As bad as all this sounds, having seen the video I would say that had I not taken the decision to stick two wheels on the grass to give the idiot room he probably would have taken us both into the barriers. :angryfire:
Onward's and upwards hopefully with lots of weeks till my next outing at Donnington I can replicate all the parts that got smashed off to get the car back where it was this morning.
OK, I am now faced with a huge amount of work (and much money) to get the car back to where it was this morning, but at least the car is now finding some speed with the gearing and aero all finding the car some speed.
Not saying the doesn't need more developing but from 7 seconds slower that the Subaru that is dominating the season to 1.8 seconds slower at Coombe to being a little faster than him today, also with 6 of the 10 laps of qualifying in the 56 second bracket with traffic on every lap, I know the car would have found an easy 55 seconds in the race with some clear air ;)
All the aero working well even in slower corners with excellent balance and tyre pressures 100% the same on every corner as soon as I came off track :great:
I forgot that pole at Brands means you are facing uphill with 2nd on the grid a much flatter place to start so I knew the 4WD Subaru would lead away and the MR2's with the engines over the wheels would also find much more grip than the RX-8, and I was right !
The promoter warned that the MR2's were nuts and being 3 seconds quicker than the fastest one, try and give them some room--------------however I thought that I would be ok overtaking in a straight line, WRONG ???
Yes I got swamped as expected off the line and half way up to Druids I had a huge gap all the way up the inside that is until an MR2 decided to literally spear across the track to get the inside line maybe stupidly to block me.
I was shown a video and he veers over so abruptly the back of the car actually comes around, with my speed so much greater up the hill I had the choice of a car spearing me in the side or the grass !!!!!!!!!!!
Little did I know that two wheels on the grass is something akin to bouncing across the top of the Himalayas-------result was the splitter digging in and destroying itself in F1 fashion with lots and lots of damage as it passed under the car.
The whole nose cone has gone, rad has a hole, Exhaust pulled off, sump smashed in, front suspension out of line, plus all the rear diffuses torn off .
Car pictured below in the Garage last night and boy O boy it doesn't look like that now!
As bad as all this sounds, having seen the video I would say that had I not taken the decision to stick two wheels on the grass to give the idiot room he probably would have taken us both into the barriers. :angryfire:
Onward's and upwards hopefully with lots of weeks till my next outing at Donnington I can replicate all the parts that got smashed off to get the car back where it was this morning.
OK, I am now faced with a huge amount of work (and much money) to get the car back to where it was this morning, but at least the car is now finding some speed with the gearing and aero all finding the car some speed.
Not saying the doesn't need more developing but from 7 seconds slower that the Subaru that is dominating the season to 1.8 seconds slower at Coombe to being a little faster than him today, also with 6 of the 10 laps of qualifying in the 56 second bracket with traffic on every lap, I know the car would have found an easy 55 seconds in the race with some clear air ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
Real sorry to hear this Clive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2017, 09:03:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2017, 09:03:14 PM
Oh my goodness! Do the race officials hand out penalties and punishment for such idiotic driving? If that had happened too me that persons MR.2 would have had an "accident" through the night along with the driver having a severe "drinking accident" through the night also
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: Casey on June 04, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
:( :( :( :( Sad news, but at least you are OK and you know the car went well in qualifying :icon_thumleft:
Congratulations on the pole, brilliant time :sign0098:
Congratulations on the pole, brilliant time :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on June 05, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
Post by: C J R on June 05, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
Flippin' heck Clive, just when you get the car to a point of success, you get mashed by an idiot :angry5:
At least you have reference photo's to refer to. But you have my sympathy having to shell out more cash when its not your fault.
Keep smiling :13:
At least you have reference photo's to refer to. But you have my sympathy having to shell out more cash when its not your fault.
Keep smiling :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on June 05, 2017, 02:50:54 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on June 05, 2017, 02:50:54 PM
you say the nose cone has gone I have the Old ATH Hinsburger the one we got from Germany its been cut up a little but you can have it you want I got no grilling for it and its sprayed Orange but your welcome to it clive its this one minus the grilling and all the other stuff....
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/Tonyspictures1/Front%20End%20Two/IMG_8996_zps6k9mcvz9.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Tonyspictures1/media/Front%20End%20Two/IMG_8996_zps6k9mcvz9.jpg.html) <------the only part with mesh is the small metal ringed holes the rest is as in the photo
regards tony .c
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/Tonyspictures1/Front%20End%20Two/IMG_8996_zps6k9mcvz9.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/Tonyspictures1/media/Front%20End%20Two/IMG_8996_zps6k9mcvz9.jpg.html) <------the only part with mesh is the small metal ringed holes the rest is as in the photo
regards tony .c
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 06:31:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 06:31:46 PM
Had a look at Brands 2016 Nippon and a your laps time in qualify would have put you right up there and if you got in 55 as you reckon then right at the front.
So what im trying to say is despite this setback your now making fantastic progress this year up 6 secs a lap from last year so well done....you really know how to put us through it.
Keep it up!
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So what im trying to say is despite this setback your now making fantastic progress this year up 6 secs a lap from last year so well done....you really know how to put us through it.
Keep it up!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:34:22 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:34:22 PM
Many thanks guys, Tony a Star as always, huge thanks for the offer really appreciated but I ordered another Replikit Mazdaspeed nose today plus a big sheet of 2mm alloy!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 08:35:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 08:35:48 PM
Quote from: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:34:22 PMWhat's the 2mm Ali for?
Many thanks guys, Tony a Star as always, huge thanks for the offer really appreciated but I ordered another Replikit Mazdaspeed nose today plus a big sheet of 2mm alloy!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:46:11 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:46:11 PM
Now for my horror movie that my friend Philip took a couple of hours to construct. (shame I did't tape qualifying)
You know I looked at this and know that presented with the same gap again I would still have gone for it just the same, with most they would have given room or not moved going in a straight line. Still cant work out if this was a blocking move or simply a no mirrors move.
Had I not driven off track in avoidance he would have run into me, potentially taken both of us into the barriers
As I said to someone today, so many people have helped me get this far, it wouldn't be fair if I just went out there wallying around and not trying to win !.
Here we go/ https://youtu.be/IkFfnUdSsqM
You know I looked at this and know that presented with the same gap again I would still have gone for it just the same, with most they would have given room or not moved going in a straight line. Still cant work out if this was a blocking move or simply a no mirrors move.
Had I not driven off track in avoidance he would have run into me, potentially taken both of us into the barriers
As I said to someone today, so many people have helped me get this far, it wouldn't be fair if I just went out there wallying around and not trying to win !.
Here we go/ https://youtu.be/IkFfnUdSsqM
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 08:35:48 PM
What's the 2mm Ali for?
Front splitter that goes all the way back to the sump plus the "new" front winglets
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Blimey....like demolition derby....them mr2 boys take no prisoners do they?
With ground effects any off track excursion its liable to happen again? Or just a bad place that you went off?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
Is there any suspension adjustments you can do so you can launch betterer? Make it a little softer on dampeners so it "squats"?
I'm just spit balling as I have no idea about this stuff
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
To answer some of the above/
The promoter sent an e-mail to all the Nippon drivers warning us all that racing the MR2's was dodgy as they race each other oblivious to anyone around them which was why so many stayed away, had you seen qualifying you would have seen that most posed no issues to get by them.
The start! I worked out on the warm up lap that the Subaru with 4wd and the MR2's with the weight over the wheels would get off the line much better than my RWD, I even angled the car slightly to allow room up my inside so as not to get rammed.
So no , changes would not help as the problem it just literally as described above.
Jon, no changes required as its just bad luck that the piece of grass isn't flat, in almost every instace on any other track I would have been OK to run onto the grass with no damage
The promoter sent an e-mail to all the Nippon drivers warning us all that racing the MR2's was dodgy as they race each other oblivious to anyone around them which was why so many stayed away, had you seen qualifying you would have seen that most posed no issues to get by them.
The start! I worked out on the warm up lap that the Subaru with 4wd and the MR2's with the weight over the wheels would get off the line much better than my RWD, I even angled the car slightly to allow room up my inside so as not to get rammed.
So no , changes would not help as the problem it just literally as described above.
Jon, no changes required as its just bad luck that the piece of grass isn't flat, in almost every instace on any other track I would have been OK to run onto the grass with no damage
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:21:42 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:21:42 PM
I did wonder where all the other nippon guys where....quite alot stayed away! Are you out again with them this year?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
If the promoter knows they are oblivious then shouldn't they have a staggered grid? Put them further down the grid together?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
If the promoter knows they are oblivious then shouldn't they have a staggered grid? Put them further down the grid together?
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Donnington is next Jon, fortunately a lot of weeks away. Still want to get the car out to Rotarystock before that though.
At the drivers briefing it was said that the MR2's would have a 6 second delay to let the faster cars go first !
They did this at Castle Coombe successfully last year, no ideas why this did not happen after all !!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:30:57 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:30:57 PM
What about Combe saturday mate?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:30:57 PM
What about Combe saturday mate?
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RX-4 On track for a little ride round.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
I bet they would have had someone's ants down if there had been a big coming together had you not decided to go and cut the grass! Especially if they were supposed to be delayed by 6 seconds
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
Cool...the rx4 defo a crowd puller and she holds her own on track.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2017, 06:15:29 AM
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2017, 06:15:29 AM
Those guys are nuts! Damn, really sorry for you, lots of damage... :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 06, 2017, 08:36:28 AM
Post by: clive on June 06, 2017, 08:36:28 AM
Couple of pictures from Qualifying have popped up, just got to get it back to being like it was then,
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Post by: C J R on June 07, 2017, 08:01:34 AM
Post by: C J R on June 07, 2017, 08:01:34 AM
Clive
I found that my splitter would 'ground' if I straddled the apex of most corners on track. It would be okay with only one wheel on the apex and the other on track.
You look to be running a lower height setting than my FD and I remember it took me a lot of adjustment to get the height just right to ensure clearance and decent ground effects.
I'll look through my pictures to see if I recorded the optimum running height for the splitter.
I used lighter aluminium for the splitter, 1.5mm I think (still have a full sheet). I used thinner aluminium 1mm or thinner (cannot remember) for the splitter supports/canards. This meant the splitter could bend without ripping the front nose off the car.
I built the diffuser from the same thinner aluminium and used 1.5mm for the supports due to the pressure exerted by the ground effects.
Hope this helps.
I found that my splitter would 'ground' if I straddled the apex of most corners on track. It would be okay with only one wheel on the apex and the other on track.
You look to be running a lower height setting than my FD and I remember it took me a lot of adjustment to get the height just right to ensure clearance and decent ground effects.
I'll look through my pictures to see if I recorded the optimum running height for the splitter.
I used lighter aluminium for the splitter, 1.5mm I think (still have a full sheet). I used thinner aluminium 1mm or thinner (cannot remember) for the splitter supports/canards. This meant the splitter could bend without ripping the front nose off the car.
I built the diffuser from the same thinner aluminium and used 1.5mm for the supports due to the pressure exerted by the ground effects.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 07, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Post by: clive on June 07, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Many thanks Chris,
Just tried to get my Steve to order 1.5 before seeing your post (to dump some weight) but he has already re-ordered 2mm as he is convinced it needs this thickness.
As you will see, I know I can bend 2mm just as easily ( now where's that T Cut ;))
Just tried to get my Steve to order 1.5 before seeing your post (to dump some weight) but he has already re-ordered 2mm as he is convinced it needs this thickness.
As you will see, I know I can bend 2mm just as easily ( now where's that T Cut ;))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 07, 2017, 02:51:54 PM
Post by: Casey on June 07, 2017, 02:51:54 PM
Give me a hammer, that'll straighten out OK ;) ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
Ive taxed worse....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on June 08, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
Post by: C J R on June 08, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
Ah there's your weight problem....paint and stickers :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 30, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Post by: clive on July 30, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Been a bit quiet as I missed the Rockingham round due to going to Rotarystock.
Cars all back together now and the now shortened rear diffuses that got ripped off actually fit better now and should be more effective.
Now to share some info that caught me out!
Biggest thing is that as some of you know, I had a smoke issue with the car when it was cold and had to get the engine hot before it cleared,
All this was after a Turbo core change after Snetterton which "should" have been identical in every way !!!!
I have racked my brains for the last few months over this because if it was a bad Turbo it would smoke all the time not just for the first 10 minutes!!
I was alll set to pull the engine although it had no filler neck pressure, then it occurred to me that "maybe" an oil restrictor would help and yep, that was the problem >:D
Turns out the GT40 needs a specific size restrictor because when the oil pressure is high when cold the oil pushes past the seals in the Turbo.
"BUT" the reason this was overlooked was that the old core did not have this problem and did not need one and it should have been an identical replacement, I can only think that Garrett have changed the bearing and oil seals inside the core Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!!
Anyway really looking forward to a week next Saturday the 12th August when I'm out on one of my favourite tracks, Donnington and according to the entry list we have Paul Buckmaster back out in his RX-7 FD and Antony Weeks in his RX-8
Qualifying 11:45â€"1st Race 14:50------2nd Race 18:25
Cars all back together now and the now shortened rear diffuses that got ripped off actually fit better now and should be more effective.
Now to share some info that caught me out!
Biggest thing is that as some of you know, I had a smoke issue with the car when it was cold and had to get the engine hot before it cleared,
All this was after a Turbo core change after Snetterton which "should" have been identical in every way !!!!
I have racked my brains for the last few months over this because if it was a bad Turbo it would smoke all the time not just for the first 10 minutes!!
I was alll set to pull the engine although it had no filler neck pressure, then it occurred to me that "maybe" an oil restrictor would help and yep, that was the problem >:D
Turns out the GT40 needs a specific size restrictor because when the oil pressure is high when cold the oil pushes past the seals in the Turbo.
"BUT" the reason this was overlooked was that the old core did not have this problem and did not need one and it should have been an identical replacement, I can only think that Garrett have changed the bearing and oil seals inside the core Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!!
Anyway really looking forward to a week next Saturday the 12th August when I'm out on one of my favourite tracks, Donnington and according to the entry list we have Paul Buckmaster back out in his RX-7 FD and Antony Weeks in his RX-8
Qualifying 11:45â€"1st Race 14:50------2nd Race 18:25
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Post by: GAVBEY on July 31, 2017, 06:00:10 AM
Post by: GAVBEY on July 31, 2017, 06:00:10 AM
NICE! keep up the good work! them MR2s were a bit agressive IMO. Looks like he tried to cut you up.
anyway looking forward to seeing prohgress
anyway looking forward to seeing prohgress
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Post by: johnf on July 31, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
Post by: johnf on July 31, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
Hi Clive
Donington - that's close enough and it's about time we caught up.
I went to the 'buy tickets' on their web site but the event isn't listed, or am I missing something.
John
Donington - that's close enough and it's about time we caught up.
I went to the 'buy tickets' on their web site but the event isn't listed, or am I missing something.
John
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2017, 02:50:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2017, 02:50:15 PM
I'm coming to watch at donnington, bringing my son too look forward too it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
Unfortunately I can't make it to this one - Colchester Utd are playing at home that day!
I wish you good luck Clive :13:
Shame I can't be there, with 3 rotaries on track :(
I wish you good luck Clive :13:
Shame I can't be there, with 3 rotaries on track :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: C J R on August 02, 2017, 07:42:22 AM
Post by: C J R on August 02, 2017, 07:42:22 AM
Yup I'll try make it to Donnington too
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Post by: clive on August 02, 2017, 09:40:48 AM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2017, 09:40:48 AM
Excellent, it will be good to see you all :great:.
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Post by: rote8 on August 02, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Post by: rote8 on August 02, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Good luck on the 12th Clive. If anyone deserves a slice of luck it's you.
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Post by: clive on August 02, 2017, 03:37:16 PM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2017, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: rote8 on August 02, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Good luck on the 12th Clive. If anyone deserves a slice of luck it's you.
Thanks Ray,
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Post by: clive on August 06, 2017, 09:13:39 AM
Post by: clive on August 06, 2017, 09:13:39 AM
Proper 40 car grid next Saturday :) got a letter saying there's reserves waiting so if anyone can't attend let the organiser know.
Really looking forward to this one, hopefully in the dry.
Really looking forward to this one, hopefully in the dry.
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 09:17:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 09:17:38 AM
Quote from: clive on August 06, 2017, 09:13:39 AMBrilliant
Proper 40 car grid next Saturday :) got a letter saying there's reserves waiting so if anyone can't attend let the organiser know.
Really looking forward to this one, hopefully in the dry.
can't wait. Wonder if I can get my son sat in them all, lol.Have they mentioned anything about staggered starts? To keep those nasty Mr. 2s away from your repairs?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
What's time table for Saturday?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 03:55:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2017, 03:55:37 PM
Just found it.
http://www.msvracing.com/media/2585/timetable-12-august-donington-park-issue-one.pdf
Don't think I will make down for 9am but should be there well before the first race starts
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http://www.msvracing.com/media/2585/timetable-12-august-donington-park-issue-one.pdf
Don't think I will make down for 9am but should be there well before the first race starts
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Post by: clive on August 10, 2017, 07:52:55 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2017, 07:52:55 PM
For anyone going to Donnington Saturday, we now have a revised timetable with Qually now at 11.45, first race 14:50, then the second one is the late shift at 18.25 when every ones gone home
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Downloads/Timetable%2012%20August%20Donington%20Park%20Issue%20TWO%20(3).pdf
Been a while since three Rotary's have raced together in the UK :great:
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Post by: re japi on August 11, 2017, 04:00:42 AM
Post by: re japi on August 11, 2017, 04:00:42 AM
Good luck to race for all of you!!!! :13:
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
See you in the morning.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 11, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
Post by: boosted on August 11, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
Good luck..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2017, 07:11:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2017, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 11, 2017, 07:11:33 PMThanks
Good luck..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 12, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Post by: boosted on August 12, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Any updates ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
4th in class first race. 12th overall. Should have been 6/7th overall but had to avoid a clio to avoid a collision so took a bit of a detour on the grass.
Skyline that finished second has admitted too having 650 hp so that fast Subaru which beat the skyline also must have the same.
Best lap was a 1.21.9
Fastest lap by the skyline was a 1.17!!
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Skyline that finished second has admitted too having 650 hp so that fast Subaru which beat the skyline also must have the same.
Best lap was a 1.21.9
Fastest lap by the skyline was a 1.17!!
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Post by: boosted on August 12, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Post by: boosted on August 12, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Lol cool....cheating in motorsport....never....Paul Buckmaster and Antony Weeks..any news on them?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 12, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/891fce7eb1c640708019811bd549e664.png)
Second race results I think
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on August 12, 2017, 08:02:23 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on August 12, 2017, 08:02:23 PM
So clive and the car made it through a full day No dramas,..... well I would call that a WIN WIN and :sign0098: well done Clive..... :icon_thumright: :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 13, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Huge thanks to those who came along to support my "efforts"
Aborted practice as I saw the oil pressure fluctuating (just needed a drop more oil) but this was partially the reason for a lowly 14th on the grid ,
out of 41 cars.
Didn't get of to a bad start and made up a few places to get up to 6th from 14th but unfortunately with an unstable rear end I got a tank slapper on going into McLeans after going down the Craner curves which let a car past but one lap on in the same place I had a lot more speed down into McLeans with loads of room on the inside and carrying a lot of speed, well up the revs in 5th this Cleo cup thing not only took the line but also the whole corner and kerb leaving me no where to go but spinning round and round on the grass, hence 12th position!
The race had another little issue in the the clutch started to slip!
Tried adjusting the clutch between races but the after the start the clutch was dead and fried, immediately settled for just going for the finish as I had to now accelerate very slowly or the clutch just wizzed away like I was in neutral.
Stupidly for the first race I forgot to partially disable the DSC because with the huge horsepower I now throw at the car, I now know the DSC system gets confused and unsettles the car, hence the tank slapper in the first race.
Shame is now with the DSC off and the car with full power and the handling behaving and no dead clutch I would say I would have got to the front of the field as I would say I had around 3 seconds a lap quicker than the 1.21 I had poorly managed.
OK, finished both races with no dramas other than the clutch, which is an easy fix, but still disappointed to come away knowing that If I hadn't had to nurse the car all day with a slipping then ultimately fried clutch the car would have had much more speed and potentially the results to go with it. In other words two twelfth places wasn't a true reflection of the pace the car should have had.
Poor Paul Buckmaster (Buko) had a worse day as he retired in the first and failed to show for the second with his RX-7 :(
Not doing the next Nippon round as I am going to go to Brands on the 2nd of Sept for the All Comers race, should be a good day out but up against very varied machinery from Radicals to MGB's. Just going to do this one for fun as its on my doorstep.
Next proper, proper race will be on the 15 October for the Autumn Trophy Races @ SILVERSTONE on the International Circuit
p.s Thanks John F for the new Racing Beat roof stickers :great:
Aborted practice as I saw the oil pressure fluctuating (just needed a drop more oil) but this was partially the reason for a lowly 14th on the grid ,
out of 41 cars.
Didn't get of to a bad start and made up a few places to get up to 6th from 14th but unfortunately with an unstable rear end I got a tank slapper on going into McLeans after going down the Craner curves which let a car past but one lap on in the same place I had a lot more speed down into McLeans with loads of room on the inside and carrying a lot of speed, well up the revs in 5th this Cleo cup thing not only took the line but also the whole corner and kerb leaving me no where to go but spinning round and round on the grass, hence 12th position!
The race had another little issue in the the clutch started to slip!
Tried adjusting the clutch between races but the after the start the clutch was dead and fried, immediately settled for just going for the finish as I had to now accelerate very slowly or the clutch just wizzed away like I was in neutral.
Stupidly for the first race I forgot to partially disable the DSC because with the huge horsepower I now throw at the car, I now know the DSC system gets confused and unsettles the car, hence the tank slapper in the first race.
Shame is now with the DSC off and the car with full power and the handling behaving and no dead clutch I would say I would have got to the front of the field as I would say I had around 3 seconds a lap quicker than the 1.21 I had poorly managed.
OK, finished both races with no dramas other than the clutch, which is an easy fix, but still disappointed to come away knowing that If I hadn't had to nurse the car all day with a slipping then ultimately fried clutch the car would have had much more speed and potentially the results to go with it. In other words two twelfth places wasn't a true reflection of the pace the car should have had.
Poor Paul Buckmaster (Buko) had a worse day as he retired in the first and failed to show for the second with his RX-7 :(
Not doing the next Nippon round as I am going to go to Brands on the 2nd of Sept for the All Comers race, should be a good day out but up against very varied machinery from Radicals to MGB's. Just going to do this one for fun as its on my doorstep.
Next proper, proper race will be on the 15 October for the Autumn Trophy Races @ SILVERSTONE on the International Circuit
p.s Thanks John F for the new Racing Beat roof stickers :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 13, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 13, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
Well a slipping clutch still gave the respectable 1.21s.
3 seconds quicker puts you right there with the Subaru and skyline doing 1.18s!! Considering they're at 650hp
Like we were talking about, a little refinement in the AFRs will give you a couple of ponies maybe and clutch that's working and maybe a few more psi boost and the car is sorted.
Still sounds awesome hearing that turbo spooling up!
Need to find me a rolling chassis mx5 mk3.5 now.... lol
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3 seconds quicker puts you right there with the Subaru and skyline doing 1.18s!! Considering they're at 650hp
Like we were talking about, a little refinement in the AFRs will give you a couple of ponies maybe and clutch that's working and maybe a few more psi boost and the car is sorted.
Still sounds awesome hearing that turbo spooling up!
Need to find me a rolling chassis mx5 mk3.5 now.... lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
Been think more about oil surge....worth a try running yours at max on dipstick....your catch tank oil return is also acting as breather mate...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Oh and Paul Buckmasters rx7 looks fantastic in that photo...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on August 13, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on August 13, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
Still a better day out and things starting to come together well done see you I hope on the 15 Oct booking that day to catch up lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 14, 2017, 08:10:14 AM
Post by: clive on August 14, 2017, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: exiled-viking on August 13, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
Still a better day out and things starting to come together well done see you I hope on the 15 Oct booking that day to catch up lol
Thanks Tony, been a while so It will be good to see you.
Going to pull the engine today to change the clutch as it takes me about the same time to pull the engine as the gear-box.
Going to have a strip and check of the engine while its out, this engine has now done 6 races and three track days and has been so good I just want to make sure all is well inside.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 19, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
Engine is fine just a split oil rubber which could have been from heat with the initial mapping,
Here we go, not too exciting except for the spin where I got chopped off at Mcleans plus dealing with the clutch slipping partially not allowing full power.
Shame is with the DSC off for the second race, had the clutch not been fried, the car would have been much much faster than the first race shown below.
https://youtu.be/u3TSpdqonL8
Here we go, not too exciting except for the spin where I got chopped off at Mcleans plus dealing with the clutch slipping partially not allowing full power.
Shame is with the DSC off for the second race, had the clutch not been fried, the car would have been much much faster than the first race shown below.
https://youtu.be/u3TSpdqonL8
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2017, 12:30:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2017, 12:30:37 PM
That over take on the skyline was amazing. I bet with no slipping clutch you would have had a great race against him for sure !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2017, 02:24:58 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2017, 02:24:58 PM
Can you glue that mirror ball...or dab it with a soldering iron? Loads of wannabe Jason Platos out there....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 19, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
Didn't realise how much time I spent resetting the mirror :( I have a bigger clipped over the top of the stock one and its making it too heavy----------its gotta go ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2017, 10:27:55 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2017, 10:27:55 PM
Lol....i was fixated with it after the 2nd time you adjusted it up.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2017, 11:00:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2017, 11:00:22 PM
Use a bathroom mirror 
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 23, 2017, 02:45:10 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 23, 2017, 02:45:10 AM
Which plates did you use for the engine clive? FC plates or FD ones? I was wondering which side mount alternator bracket you used and also the alternator and the pulley you had on it?
Are you using a Hall effect sensor or something different for crank angle detection?
And finally are you using an FD front cover??
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Are you using a Hall effect sensor or something different for crank angle detection?
And finally are you using an FD front cover??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 23, 2017, 08:52:46 AM
Post by: clive on August 23, 2017, 08:52:46 AM
It's completely an FD engine, using a Full Function Engineering wheel assembly.
The side mount came from Mazdatrix but don't forget I use a custom alternator due to have no space down the side of the engine like you do on an FD
The side mount came from Mazdatrix but don't forget I use a custom alternator due to have no space down the side of the engine like you do on an FD
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 23, 2017, 10:18:36 AM
Post by: re japi on August 23, 2017, 10:18:36 AM
Damn, that sounds angry. And goes fast :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 23, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 23, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
I have an extreme rotaries side mount alternator bracket, which is for an FC (as I'm using FC plates, with the centre mounting brackets) and an FD front cover...
So I cannot use an FD alternator due to how the FD alternator mounts, it has offset mounting tabs, and also the FC one can be used BUT the pulley does not stick out far enough too line up with the main pulley, not only that but an FC pulley is for a V belt and not a ribbed one....
Iv tried finding a replacement pulley that sticks out far enough but with no such luck
only thing I can think of is too make a pulley too mount too the FC alternator, and also get the alternator modified to be more powerful.
OR!!! Get a custom alternator, smaller package but mounts too the side mount I have??
If you understand all that and have any suggestions I'm all ears
I am making a dump from scratch, would you recommend adding a drain into it too allow for a catch can drain? Or would it be better to put a drain for a catch can into the turbo drain back?
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So I cannot use an FD alternator due to how the FD alternator mounts, it has offset mounting tabs, and also the FC one can be used BUT the pulley does not stick out far enough too line up with the main pulley, not only that but an FC pulley is for a V belt and not a ribbed one....
Iv tried finding a replacement pulley that sticks out far enough but with no such luck
only thing I can think of is too make a pulley too mount too the FC alternator, and also get the alternator modified to be more powerful.OR!!! Get a custom alternator, smaller package but mounts too the side mount I have??
If you understand all that and have any suggestions I'm all ears
I am making a dump from scratch, would you recommend adding a drain into it too allow for a catch can drain? Or would it be better to put a drain for a catch can into the turbo drain back?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 07:55:23 AM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 07:55:23 AM
Grant the pulley should simply swap straight for the ribbed pulley,
Don't drop the can drain into the rear turbo drain, tried this and first time I went around a tight hairpin at Snetterton the oil came up the tube, loads of smoke and chucked off track ! :(
Only really successful way to dump oil back in is via the front cover :great:
Although all is well with the oil system finally, while the engine was out I made another mod for the sump just to control the the oil surge a little better :)
Don't drop the can drain into the rear turbo drain, tried this and first time I went around a tight hairpin at Snetterton the oil came up the tube, loads of smoke and chucked off track ! :(
Only really successful way to dump oil back in is via the front cover :great:
Although all is well with the oil system finally, while the engine was out I made another mod for the sump just to control the the oil surge a little better :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:27:32 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:27:32 AM
Where does your dip stick go in?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:15:03 PM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:15:03 PM
In the hole I put in afterwards :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:18:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:18:16 PM
Oh good. Was wondering if you had forgotten or not
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:33:15 PM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:33:15 PM
Got it all back up n running today, just a couple of little jobs then its off to race at Brands next week against some very very varied race cars, from Radical's to MGB's in the All Comers Races .
Literally anything goes as regards type of car and can be on slicks etc ect.
Well at least hopefully I will have some sort of chance against the MGB's ;)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Where on the front cover have you done the return for the catch can? Iv had a look back through the thread and can't see it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2017, 08:48:53 PM
Here we go
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
Its also a breather....dont you think?
Looking good! You work fast!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 27, 2017, 10:36:43 AM
Post by: clive on August 27, 2017, 10:36:43 AM
Yes, it would also act just as a breather when no oil was trying to run down the pipe from the can.
The other end of the pipe going to the front cover comes directly out of the bottom of the catch can.
The other end of the pipe going to the front cover comes directly out of the bottom of the catch can.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Well now i have a high filler neck...if it dont work which i think i already know the answer...ill be drilling me front plate....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 31, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
Post by: clive on August 31, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
All set for a play in the All Comers series at Brands on Saturday / also looking forward to the glorious sound of the DFV engine going around Brands once more in the Lotus F1 demos.
Timetable attached for anyone interested
Timetable attached for anyone interested
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 01, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
Post by: Casey on September 01, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
Arrrgh, can't make it to Brands as Colchester are playing at home this weekend!
Have a good day Clive, weather looks to be good for you too :great:
Have a good day Clive, weather looks to be good for you too :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on September 01, 2017, 10:18:20 AM
Post by: rote8 on September 01, 2017, 10:18:20 AM
Likewise, have a good play at the weekend Clive. Would have tried to get there but have been reminded we are at the Faversham Hop Festival.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 01, 2017, 08:40:17 PM
Post by: clive on September 01, 2017, 08:40:17 PM
Thank you Ray, Malcolm
Got the best seat in the house when I took the car out there today, looking at Paddock , means I will be able to see the racing for once while I'm not Racing.
Looking forward to the two demos from 90's Lotus and Benetton F1cars.
Got the best seat in the house when I took the car out there today, looking at Paddock , means I will be able to see the racing for once while I'm not Racing.
Looking forward to the two demos from 90's Lotus and Benetton F1cars.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
Have fun....thats a glorious spot for the exhaust noise as well...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
wow some monsters running in this race....listening on TSl :13:
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Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 11:56:39 AM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 11:56:39 AM
Looked for entry price Clive...couldnt find....
Are a few of them cars on slicks Clive?
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Are a few of them cars on slicks Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2017, 01:11:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2017, 01:11:54 PM
I think clive did say they could use slicks
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:14:27 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:14:27 PM
Radicals and such like so much grip n downforce...in there company did very well...from what i saw on TSL.
Off to listen to next 1 at 1.30.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:15:05 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:15:05 PM
Ohh and Clives got an uber rare RX6 according to commentator!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Got the rx part right just not the number
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:18:10 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:18:10 PM
1.20....try it TSL Grant on yer phone...full commentary...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:43:45 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 01:43:45 PM
"Colin Haynesford in his RX6 16th to 12th"....sounded like alot of fun....nobles, tvrs radicals! 20 min race as well ... I bet Colins sweaty.
Hoping for some onboard...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 06:42:13 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 06:42:13 PM
Hope all went well on the 2nd race...went for a blast in Westy and then dozed off in garden!
Looking forward to vids.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 02, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
Post by: clive on September 02, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
Wasn't happy in the first race but pulled a whole 5 Lbs out of the tyres and stiffend the suspension up and the second the car was much better.
Happy that I wrung the maximum out of the car on the day and actually enjoyed the second race.
Finished 9th but the cars in front were all on full blown slicks and the speed difference was staggering ???!
Even though the two races and qualifying were only 5 minutes longer this equated an extra gallons of fuel / started with 3/4 of a tank and put in a huge 14 gallons of fuel as well ???
Just had an add up and worked out I completed 63 laps in total today, so that's where the fuel went ;)
On the positive side that's seven races on the trot finished, now I need to find some more speed ;)
There will be lots of footage once my friend Philip uploads the Go-pro cards, then you can see how I got out the way of those crazy fast Radicals and much modded Caterhams ::)
Happy that I wrung the maximum out of the car on the day and actually enjoyed the second race.
Finished 9th but the cars in front were all on full blown slicks and the speed difference was staggering ???!
Even though the two races and qualifying were only 5 minutes longer this equated an extra gallons of fuel / started with 3/4 of a tank and put in a huge 14 gallons of fuel as well ???
Just had an add up and worked out I completed 63 laps in total today, so that's where the fuel went ;)
On the positive side that's seven races on the trot finished, now I need to find some more speed ;)
There will be lots of footage once my friend Philip uploads the Go-pro cards, then you can see how I got out the way of those crazy fast Radicals and much modded Caterhams ::)
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Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
Post by: boosted on September 02, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
What was the entry price Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on September 02, 2017, 10:00:18 PM
Post by: rote8 on September 02, 2017, 10:00:18 PM
Slicks are the way to go. :13: Radicals and Caterhams weigh about as much as your full tank of fuel. :)) Glad you enjoyed it Colin and by all accounts you acquitted yourself well. :)) :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 03, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Post by: re japi on September 03, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Clive, a bit off topic and stupid question but who builds RacingBeat Europes Renesis ported engines? And where? :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
Quote from: boosted on September 02, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
What was the entry price Clive?
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£245 Jon
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Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
Quote from: re japi on September 03, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Clive, a bit off topic and stupid question but who builds RacingBeat Europes Renesis ported engines? And where? :)
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No no no, not a stupid question.
The engines built under my guidance using all of our own components.
We send out one a week and quite a few go into Scandinavian country's even up as far as Iceland and as far out into a little Island in the middle of the Pacific and even out into America!.
Price is reflected in the amount of new Mazda Parts we use which many do not and we supply from stock to Full Bridge.
Over the last two years with many sold, we have only had one failure with an engine we sold into Germany without a warranty because he was fitting a big Turbo !
Absolutely destroyed the poor thing while mapping it :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 11:10:24 AM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: rote8 on September 02, 2017, 10:00:18 PM
Slicks are the way to go. :13: Radicals and Caterhams weigh about as much as your full tank of fuel. :)) Glad you enjoyed it Colin and by all accounts you acquitted yourself well. :)) :sign0098:
Thanks Ray, yep Power to weight ratio and all that.
After racing for many years on slicks, the difference between running a road based MSA approved tyre is like day and night.
The sports car things that were out there, were running slicks so soft that they were chucking rubber at me all the way down the straight each time they came by !
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Post by: re japi on September 03, 2017, 11:10:52 AM
Post by: re japi on September 03, 2017, 11:10:52 AM
Ok, thanks for info :)
We, Finnish rotary crew, talked about ported Rennys in out Tapatalk chat. One dude said that he has RB Europes streetported engine. Then I started to wonder who builts them anyways :)
Anyhoo, he enjoys that engine :)
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We, Finnish rotary crew, talked about ported Rennys in out Tapatalk chat. One dude said that he has RB Europes streetported engine. Then I started to wonder who builts them anyways :)
Anyhoo, he enjoys that engine :)
Cheers
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 11:15:49 AM
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: clive on September 03, 2017, 10:52:27 AMThats a really good price...compared to Combe...Quote from: boosted on September 02, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
What was the entry price Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2017, 01:11:54 PM
I think clive did say they could use slicks
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When I was in Parc ferme where they line the cars up for the next race, I looked at the cars that would be on the grid in front of me and realised they were all on slicks :(
Dove my socks off every lap and got nowhere "but" I did enjoy getting the max out of the car that I could ;)
On the oil front the car used an 1/8th of a litre of oil per session - ( 125 Milliliters) so it looks like we are on top of the oil issues as well
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 01:59:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 01:59:53 PM
How much faster a lap does a slick give? A few seconds?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 01:59:53 PM
How much faster a lap does a slick give? A few seconds?
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I would say an easy 3-4 seconds a lap even round Brands.
To give you an idea about tyre differences, although a longer track, at Snetterton a few years ago I was asked to test a new treaded track day tyre on the road car.
I went out on my Yoko's to set a time and then with the new tyre went 5 seconds a lap slower. !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
The downside is increased gs in the corner... more oil slosh/ surge and a lot more strain on suspension components.
The handling difference on the westy from yoko a005 slicks to toyo 888 is nigh and day.
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The handling difference on the westy from yoko a005 slicks to toyo 888 is nigh and day.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
So how do you combat the strain on the suspension? Stiffer spring rates?
Is slicks the reason why when you see a proper race car lifted off the floor that wheels don't sag down? Because the suspension and corispondong components don't move as much?
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Is slicks the reason why when you see a proper race car lifted off the floor that wheels don't sag down? Because the suspension and corispondong components don't move as much?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 02:33:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 02:33:36 PM
Would slicks also make you to have more aggressive geometry due fast cornering speeds??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
Post by: boosted on September 03, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
Slicks need abit more camber to work properly but on rear of westy i have 0 and grip is very good...dont know on the sagging prob shorter suspension travel.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 06:49:08 PM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 06:49:08 PM
So how do you combat the strain on the suspension? Stiffer spring rates?
I already use stiffer than recommended front springs anyway
Is slicks the reason why when you see a proper race car lifted off the floor that wheels don't sag down? Because the suspension and corresponding components don't move as much?
The reason is just shorter shock travel compared to a road car meaning less droop
Would slicks also make you to have more aggressive geometry due fast cornering speeds??
Not necessarily, also personally I don't like a lot of negative camber, 2 degrees max as I always feel the car will try and climb up onto the tyre.
Camber would be decided by testing to check wear and tyre temps,
Years ago, running a 10" wide slick leading a long way into a 100 lap race and looking like it was in the bag, I turned in and went straight off into a barrier.
Turned out that due to too much negative had worn the tyre down to the cords leaving half of the tyre still OK and nothing on the inside of the tyre
I already use stiffer than recommended front springs anyway
Is slicks the reason why when you see a proper race car lifted off the floor that wheels don't sag down? Because the suspension and corresponding components don't move as much?
The reason is just shorter shock travel compared to a road car meaning less droop
Would slicks also make you to have more aggressive geometry due fast cornering speeds??
Not necessarily, also personally I don't like a lot of negative camber, 2 degrees max as I always feel the car will try and climb up onto the tyre.
Camber would be decided by testing to check wear and tyre temps,
Years ago, running a 10" wide slick leading a long way into a 100 lap race and looking like it was in the bag, I turned in and went straight off into a barrier.
Turned out that due to too much negative had worn the tyre down to the cords leaving half of the tyre still OK and nothing on the inside of the tyre
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
Do brake pads have an optimal operating temperature? I used to work for a company who's owner, Lawrence Tomlinson, who also owns ginetta. They built the cars in the same warehouse as our electrical stores....
Anyway I used to ogle at the lemans cars they had in there and they've had stuck on temp stickers on the brake calipers?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 10:07:20 PM
Post by: clive on September 03, 2017, 10:07:20 PM
Yes the pads I use need warming up on the formation lap to make sure they work properly.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 04, 2017, 08:20:17 PM
Post by: clive on September 04, 2017, 08:20:17 PM
Here you go, 1st race. https://youtu.be/qvjkeRKntxQ ( bit of a lonely race !)
Re dipped the oil this morning and found it had not used any in the second race at all 8)
Spoke to Pip today to get the map looked at again as it is very fumey and I'm getting 10.1 AFR readings so some fuel can come out to get a bit more power ;)
BTW worked out the MPG------------------------ Came out at 3.4 miles per gallon :c002:
Re dipped the oil this morning and found it had not used any in the second race at all 8)
Spoke to Pip today to get the map looked at again as it is very fumey and I'm getting 10.1 AFR readings so some fuel can come out to get a bit more power ;)
BTW worked out the MPG------------------------ Came out at 3.4 miles per gallon :c002:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 04, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
Post by: boosted on September 04, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
Or more Boost in lol?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:28:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:28:16 PM
The. Mpg is very poor clive, you can do better.... I won't be happy unless I see 1gallon per mile
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:28:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:28:51 PM
What ratio are you presiding at?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 04, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
Post by: clive on September 04, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:28:16 PM
I won't be happy unless I see 1gallon per mile
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Must drive harder :040:
If you meant pre-mix / 100ml to every 2 gallons
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
Yeh pre mix lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 04, 2017, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 04, 2017, 09:30:54 PM
Here you go, this is race 2 from the outside
And here is Race 1 in car
Race 2 in-car coming soon :)
And here is Race 1 in car
Race 2 in-car coming soon :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 05, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 05, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
Here is Race 2 ;) https://youtu.be/0eRBrNA3zOU
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Post by: Prototype on September 05, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 05, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Not sure what is happening with the youtube previews, they were working last night and now they have gone.
Link to Race 2 from the side of the track
https://youtu.be/RaRhaenAZsk
Race 1 In car
https://youtu.be/qvjkeRKntxQ
Maybe the mods and look at why the youtube previews have stopped working?
Link to Race 2 from the side of the track
https://youtu.be/RaRhaenAZsk
Race 1 In car
https://youtu.be/qvjkeRKntxQ
Maybe the mods and look at why the youtube previews have stopped working?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
All seem to be working fine for me Philip, at least on Chrome browser :icon_thumleft:
Really great videos too - very much enjoyed watching them. That vantage point for the "outside car" view gave good angle on a lot of the track
:13:
The closing speed of those Radicals (and the Caterhams to) was just ludricrous! Clive had no chance of a higher position with those in the same race ???
Bit worried about Clive's car getting smokier as the race progressed, but some lovely flames too.
Really great videos too - very much enjoyed watching them. That vantage point for the "outside car" view gave good angle on a lot of the track
:13:
The closing speed of those Radicals (and the Caterhams to) was just ludricrous! Clive had no chance of a higher position with those in the same race ???
Bit worried about Clive's car getting smokier as the race progressed, but some lovely flames too.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 05, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Post by: clive on September 05, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: Casey on September 05, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
Bit worried about Clive's car getting smokier as the race progressed, but some lovely flames too.
Yes we were all a bit puzzled by this but it turns out that the oil level was a little high and it did not use any oil at all in the second race.
However, it is running very rich and made my eyes water at on stage, so I wonder if some of the smoke is actually due to over fuelling.
We will find out as the car is now booked in at Pips for Saturday morning and have Carl coming along as well, so between us all we should see a little more low down power appear ;)
As Pip says, we had a very conservative map but we can now play a little now we have some reliability.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2017, 06:39:04 PM
I was gonna say fuel Clive...when she flamed they where massive and the smoke looked like it was coming out on gearchanges as well not just overrun......looked like alot of fun too.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: clive on September 05, 2017, 06:34:59 PMDon't forget to do some videos of the dunno pullsQuote from: Casey on September 05, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
Bit worried about Clive's car getting smokier as the race progressed, but some lovely flames too.
Yes we were all a bit puzzled by this but it turns out that the oil level was a little high and it did not use any oil at all in the second race.
However, it is running very rich and made my eyes water at on stage, so I wonder if some of the smoke is actually due to over fuelling.
We will find out as the car is now booked in at Pips for Saturday morning and have Carl coming along as well, so between us all we should see a little more low down power appear ;)
As Pip says, we had a very conservative map but we can now play a little now we have some reliability.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2017, 07:38:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2017, 07:38:49 PM
So how did it go??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 10, 2017, 09:55:31 AM
Post by: clive on September 10, 2017, 09:55:31 AM
Found my missing 60 bhp :wee_hee:
After believing the car had no go, it was a good constructive session yesterday with Pip mapping plus Carl in attendance so they could both work together to iron out any issues.
Not only did the car have way way to much fuel going in but also the boost was peaking then bleeding like mad.
I had the car run up to find out exactly what it was doing first and not only did the car have way way to much fuel going in but also the boost was peaking then bleeding.
This was giving me a rev band only between 5200 and 6400 and after that the car was just revving out to 8000 going nowhere and slower :(.
Literally you got to 6400 and the power just fell off a cliff! Wont know fully till the car goes out on track again but both Pip and Carl believe that because of the waste-gate mods they did to hold boost through through the rev range it should feel like a 100bhp improvement over what I had.
Staggering the difference in sound on each run as more and more fuel was coming out the car and wow, it sounds so much better now :D
Pip now wants me to revert back to fitting a solenoid so I can plumb the waste-gate back into the Adaptronic ECU as he will be able to refine the map even better.
Going to swap the diff out again from the 4.3 to the 4.4 as this will move the gears closer together to keep it on boost better.
Going to see if I can enter a sprint at Goodwood at the end of the month and then its of to Silverstone to give it a run on the International circuit for the Track Attack Autumn trophy on the 15th of October.
Lastly here's an interest video that my friend Philip put together to try and show me the smoke at Brands, you will see its on the gear changes and not surge in the corners ;) With amount of fuel taken out I should now have a non-smoking racer 8)
https://youtu.be/AA-bvYyBx0M
After believing the car had no go, it was a good constructive session yesterday with Pip mapping plus Carl in attendance so they could both work together to iron out any issues.
Not only did the car have way way to much fuel going in but also the boost was peaking then bleeding like mad.
I had the car run up to find out exactly what it was doing first and not only did the car have way way to much fuel going in but also the boost was peaking then bleeding.
This was giving me a rev band only between 5200 and 6400 and after that the car was just revving out to 8000 going nowhere and slower :(.
Literally you got to 6400 and the power just fell off a cliff! Wont know fully till the car goes out on track again but both Pip and Carl believe that because of the waste-gate mods they did to hold boost through through the rev range it should feel like a 100bhp improvement over what I had.
Staggering the difference in sound on each run as more and more fuel was coming out the car and wow, it sounds so much better now :D
Pip now wants me to revert back to fitting a solenoid so I can plumb the waste-gate back into the Adaptronic ECU as he will be able to refine the map even better.
Going to swap the diff out again from the 4.3 to the 4.4 as this will move the gears closer together to keep it on boost better.
Going to see if I can enter a sprint at Goodwood at the end of the month and then its of to Silverstone to give it a run on the International circuit for the Track Attack Autumn trophy on the 15th of October.
Lastly here's an interest video that my friend Philip put together to try and show me the smoke at Brands, you will see its on the gear changes and not surge in the corners ;) With amount of fuel taken out I should now have a non-smoking racer 8)
https://youtu.be/AA-bvYyBx0M
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2017, 10:05:09 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2017, 10:05:09 AM
It will have improved your mpg too then
Great stuff, having a 1200rpm power range isn't exactly good. 5200 to 8000 is definately much better. Did you gains any more torques?
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Great stuff, having a 1200rpm power range isn't exactly good. 5200 to 8000 is definately much better. Did you gains any more torques?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 10, 2017, 10:20:21 AM
Post by: clive on September 10, 2017, 10:20:21 AM
Torque is up 60 ft lbs as well :)
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2017, 10:24:13 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2017, 10:24:13 AM
Excellent. Still on the same 10psi then
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2017, 11:06:18 AM
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2017, 11:06:18 AM
www.motorsport-events.com
could come and play on the 15th...at combe....couple of guys from RX8oc are there as well.....4 places left.....
could come and play on the 15th...at combe....couple of guys from RX8oc are there as well.....4 places left.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2017, 02:43:06 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2017, 02:43:06 PM
Now for something different to fly the Rotary flag before the next Nippon Challenge Autumn Trophy at Silverstone on the 15th of October, I've entered into the British Sprint Championship at Goodwood circuit next Saturday.
Reason, it gives me the rare opportunity to drive the fabulous Goodwood track with something that's got some power (just had the car re-mapped to give 450bhp :mrgreen: )
Should be an interesting day with around 80 cars entered in various categories there will be lots to see.
Reason, it gives me the rare opportunity to drive the fabulous Goodwood track with something that's got some power (just had the car re-mapped to give 450bhp :mrgreen: )
Should be an interesting day with around 80 cars entered in various categories there will be lots to see.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Cool...need to edit your title now...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2017, 05:33:24 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2017, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 17, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Cool...need to edit your title now...
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Sill only 400 at the wheels ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2017, 06:03:04 PM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2017, 06:03:04 PM
Thats ok then...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 18, 2017, 05:11:11 AM
Post by: re japi on September 18, 2017, 05:11:11 AM
Damn nice figures :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 22, 2017, 10:07:18 PM
Post by: clive on September 22, 2017, 10:07:18 PM
All tucked up for the night in one the historic number 47 Goodwood pit stall ready for tomorrow, complete with mandatory timing thingy sticking out the front :)
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Post by: Casey on September 23, 2017, 12:45:42 AM
Post by: Casey on September 23, 2017, 12:45:42 AM
Looking great in the sunshine there Clive :great:
Good luck tomorrow :)
Home match at Colchester tomorroew so I can't make it to spectate. I also have some prep work to do on my car in the morning before a trackday at Donington on Monday (travelling up on Sunday) :13:
Looking forward to seeing your results with the extra BHP!
Good luck tomorrow :)
Home match at Colchester tomorroew so I can't make it to spectate. I also have some prep work to do on my car in the morning before a trackday at Donington on Monday (travelling up on Sunday) :13:
Looking forward to seeing your results with the extra BHP!
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Post by: boosted on September 23, 2017, 06:58:25 PM
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2017, 06:58:25 PM
Hope you had a good day...any trophys...?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2017, 09:05:09 PM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2017, 09:05:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 23, 2017, 06:58:25 PMNo ideas if they even had out trophys as we left early ( read the next post ;).
Hope you had a good day...any trophys...?
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Well what a day but now I know why this track is so special :00123101: also why its so daunting for many :( (more of that later)
I found Sprinting is a totally different discipline, sort of Drag Racing with corners and almost feels non competitive like a track day, BUT due to what I found mainly due to the drivers it was a brilliant relaxed way of going racing :great:
As there are classes for road cars with no mods like roll cages, literally you just need to afix a timing plate on your car and away you go, and at £140 it was cheaper than a track day.
First off I unfortunately gave the kiss of death to a nice driver with a brand new 17 plate Caterham who told me that he had raced many times here before---------------and then went out and promptly took the front off his nice new car ???
As for my car, WOW, after wandering around in the RX-4, what a thrill to drive this famous old track with some power, even with poor exit speed onto the back straight I glanced down to see 145mph showing on the spedo :) With its new WGT map it's now holding boost properly (14 psi) and is a completely different animal to drive, so so looking forward to the next race.
As for the day itself, getting under 100 seconds seems to be deemed as quick and I had a 101 on both runs, with some idea of how to wander round the track faster than my previous visits, I was having an excellent run third time to be stopped with a red flag on the back straight.
A Honda 2000 had decided to destroy itself on the way into Magwick but luckily the driver only received a broken ankle, but a least he survived!, like I said this is why this track is so daunting for many, this also ended the meeting there and then.
As for results, well I finished second in class to the M3 pictured running on Avon Slicks which a couple of drivers pointed out to me was a big money car well sorted car with well over 100K spent without actually factoring in buying the car!
I found that there is also another club that runs Sprints at Goodwood so a trip next year looks to be on the cards mixed in with my normal races.
BTW I know Jonathan on here sprints but I also found that there is also a stock engined RX-8 that competes regularly.
(Jon and Malcolm etc, these events would be great for a giggle for you)
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Post by: clive on September 27, 2017, 08:30:09 AM
Post by: clive on September 27, 2017, 08:30:09 AM
Turns out whist I got knobbled for having a Rotary and then a Turbo and thinking the slick shod Monster BMW No 53 would have been loads faster! / results came on a mail today and I won my class!!
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2017, 09:35:18 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 27, 2017, 09:35:18 AM
Well done, not bad for a spinning Dorito motor.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on September 27, 2017, 11:05:25 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 27, 2017, 11:05:25 AM
:13:
Well done, it's good to see a rotary doing so well in competition.
Well done, it's good to see a rotary doing so well in competition.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
Results via THE POST?!
It had to be Goodwood... ;) :) Have they discovered electronic mail and the interwebby thing yet ;D I suppose they were using stopwatches on the day too (but did they remember to wind up the mechanisms first?) ;)
:) :) Many congrats Clive, a result to really cheer you up and some reward/payback for all the effort you've put into developing your car :13: :icon_thumleft:
It had to be Goodwood... ;) :) Have they discovered electronic mail and the interwebby thing yet ;D I suppose they were using stopwatches on the day too (but did they remember to wind up the mechanisms first?) ;)
:) :) Many congrats Clive, a result to really cheer you up and some reward/payback for all the effort you've put into developing your car :13: :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 28, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Post by: clive on September 28, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Real shame I did not put the go-pro on for other laps at Goodwood but here is the half a lap before I was stopped on track and the event abandoned and although a super short video, it shows I now have more power than chassis under me now, so I'll really have to drive it now :mrgreen: .
Roll on Silverstone in two weeks time where I can see how it fares against the 650bhp Skyline and the super quick Subaru, let alone the other 38 cars on the grid ;) .
Here you go, the super short video https://youtu.be/uf6XLb0MLXU
Roll on Silverstone in two weeks time where I can see how it fares against the 650bhp Skyline and the super quick Subaru, let alone the other 38 cars on the grid ;) .
Here you go, the super short video https://youtu.be/uf6XLb0MLXU
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Post by: boosted on September 28, 2017, 03:35:38 PM
Post by: boosted on September 28, 2017, 03:35:38 PM
:sign0098: :13: :great: :P 8) all the hard work finally paying off.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
Just had chance to watch your video. The car certainly sounds better, a very noticeable difference to. In the crispness of the sound in my
Opinion.
What BOV are you using? I'm not a fan of the noise it makes, lol. At least it's not one of this that have been designed to go "chuchuchuchu chu" lol
So how do you improve the chassis now that you have more power?
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Opinion.
What BOV are you using? I'm not a fan of the noise it makes, lol. At least it's not one of this that have been designed to go "chuchuchuchu chu" lol
So how do you improve the chassis now that you have more power?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 01, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
Post by: clive on October 01, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
So how do you improve the chassis now that you have more power?
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We get a better driver ;)
No seriously, this is the first time I have felt I've really got to drive the car, as it felt on the edge all the time :great:
Yes your right, car sounds real different, I bet if you heard the sound from a much earlier video it will sound like a completely different car.
Sooooooo, looking forward to Silverstone a week Sunday to see what I've really got under me.
Not a fan of blow off valves but Carl talked me into fitting one to release the pressure out of the Turbo, real lucky a friend had an unused but very old HKS ssq he promptly donated as a freebe.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2017, 10:18:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2017, 10:18:18 PM
Well if it was free that means it's perfect then
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
What can be done too a car then once the power level surpasses the chassis? Obviously I'm guessing spending more money but what things would you do to make the car 'drive itself' again lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 04, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
Post by: clive on October 04, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
What can be done too a car then once the power level surpasses the chassis?
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Maybe a better way to describe the above is to say any driver on track worth his salt is always going to drive a car on the edge and now I have more power I'm just finding the edge of grip quicker :)).
As for the car itself, over the winter I will look at how I can develop the car further, for one thing I will look at how to shed some weight as I know the car is very heavy and then start looking at the underside of the car, plus I will see what new MSA approved tyres appear over the winter.
Talking of tyres, I have already started looking at the new Nankang AR-1 as people seem to be raving about it, "but" on talking to a supplier I trust who tested this tyre against two other tyres he found it to be the slowest.
He asked me not to show it, but he had overlaid the three images around the track just like on a Grand Prix program and it proved what he found.
He is now staggered about the hype around the AR-1, just goes to show you can't believe all of what you read.
I have the feeling that I'm going to go all around the houses and then end up with the Yokohama's i'm already on !
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2017, 09:20:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2017, 09:20:07 PM
Ah makes sense now.
I was thinking of along the lines of need more brakes, more grip and the sorts that going along with those things.
For example driving faster means getting to corners quicker means higher entry speeds, which would mean harder braking, which would maybe mean more weight transference too the front suspension etc etc
I know nowt about racing and setting up the car! Lol.
Everyone will be raving about that tyre because someone on the internets that's well thought of will have been paid lots of money too say they're good.
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I was thinking of along the lines of need more brakes, more grip and the sorts that going along with those things.
For example driving faster means getting to corners quicker means higher entry speeds, which would mean harder braking, which would maybe mean more weight transference too the front suspension etc etc
I know nowt about racing and setting up the car! Lol.
Everyone will be raving about that tyre because someone on the internets that's well thought of will have been paid lots of money too say they're good.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 05, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 05, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
It's great to see your getting the most out of the chassis, but you know my feelings about the AR-1's, they look the job but that's all, they are very good road tyres and not bad in the wet. Are you not able to use slicks and or wets.
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Post by: clive on October 05, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
Post by: clive on October 05, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
Quote from: lennycarloff on October 05, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Are you not able to use slicks and or wets.
No I have to use MSA approved "road tyres" in Nippon, you are allowed proper racing slicks in the wet,
Not sure you would be allowed to use wets in the dry, besides they would only last 5 minutes before they died due to the rubber being much softer.
I would need to look at another series to run slicks but just about all other series ban Rotarys !!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 05, 2017, 12:00:08 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 05, 2017, 12:00:08 PM
Well that leaves you with the Yokohama tyre's, I do love the toyo r888r's for there ability to work from cold and in low temperatures but fear that "you would" cook them in a full race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 05, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: clive on October 05, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Yep, I agree, I think I may overheat them like this RX-3 did ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 10, 2017, 06:54:31 PM
Post by: clive on October 10, 2017, 06:54:31 PM
All set for the weekend, big grid from seeing the entry list, should get some good racing in :)
Here's the time table for anyone attending
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/british-racing-sports-car-club-october/
Here's the time table for anyone attending
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/events/british-racing-sports-car-club-october/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2017, 07:12:31 PM
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2017, 07:12:31 PM
You racing sat or sun...or both ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 10, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Post by: Casey on October 10, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Looks like Sunday only, according to that timetable?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
Yep Track attack....not Nippon...mmm im a maybe for Sunday ..see how i get on Friday n Sat maintaining the fleet...1 in bits with 2 gearboxes exploded all over floor and scooby fail on mot ..hopefully done sat ill come along give the fd a run.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 11, 2017, 09:59:54 AM
Post by: clive on October 11, 2017, 09:59:54 AM
Two day event, but we are only performing on Sunday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: johnf on October 13, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
Post by: johnf on October 13, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
'we are only performing on Sunday' mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 14, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
Post by: boosted on October 14, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
Not goona be able to make it...long story short...coltie gearbox in for 3rd time with 2nd clutch...got all associated parts to refit tomoz...pressure on as wanting todo Thruxton init friday.
Have a good day and make sure you get a good start away from them mr2s...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 14, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
Post by: clive on October 14, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
Thanks Jon, here we go, calm before the storm, all ready for the morning rush ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 07:36:55 AM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 07:36:55 AM
Looking good! Have an epic day...hoping you shock that skyline n subaru!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 02:51:50 PM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 02:51:50 PM
Finished putting coltie gearbox in and all good...took the 7 for a blow out and now sat waiting on tsl....come on Clive give em hell!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 03:07:28 PM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2017, 03:07:28 PM
Not sure whats happening....blind...looks like non working transponder or did not make it to grid...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2017, 07:53:22 AM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2017, 07:53:22 AM
Race report/ Well it was an eventful day.
Just two laps into practice the engine cut and whilst in "rolling mode" in the Stowe complex looking for somewhere to park a Celica that has spun stupidly tried to immediately drive back on the track and speared me at a right angle causing damage down most of the side of the car!
Took ages to find why there was no spark on my completely separate ignition system, turned out to be hidden fuse buried under the dash.
The line up procedure takes around half an hour and with all the stop start procedure and the marshals keeping moving us around the battery was just to flat to start the car , thinking the fuse had blown again I didn't think to get a push start :(
HOWEVER, so many other drivers felt I was so lucky as world war three broke out in and around the area where I would have started on the grid with an immediate red flag to remove one totally written of car.
This meant I started dead last with the promoter begging me to let them settle down before "attacking", apparently at the end the MR2's were still taking bits off each other >:D
After dispensing with eight cars my being cautious had let the front runners be to far down the road to catch so after a rubbish day I just went for the finish and wound up a disappointing distant tenth but still got a trophy for first in class !!!!!!!!!!!
Carl Hayward was there for support and noted that the smaller cars that did not have the straight line speed I had, gained two advantages over me in that they did not have the weight I had to get slowed for the corners and were then much more nimble though the corners even though he could see I was on the limit most of the time.
Also showed me I have now gone the wrong way with diff gears and need to revert back to a 4.4.
plus side was once the car stayed running it was perfect, no smoke and not a drop of oil used all day so all my oil surge issues have now gone .
May go to the all comers race at brands in two weeks time to see what the cars like with a different gear in the back end.
Just two laps into practice the engine cut and whilst in "rolling mode" in the Stowe complex looking for somewhere to park a Celica that has spun stupidly tried to immediately drive back on the track and speared me at a right angle causing damage down most of the side of the car!
Took ages to find why there was no spark on my completely separate ignition system, turned out to be hidden fuse buried under the dash.
The line up procedure takes around half an hour and with all the stop start procedure and the marshals keeping moving us around the battery was just to flat to start the car , thinking the fuse had blown again I didn't think to get a push start :(
HOWEVER, so many other drivers felt I was so lucky as world war three broke out in and around the area where I would have started on the grid with an immediate red flag to remove one totally written of car.
This meant I started dead last with the promoter begging me to let them settle down before "attacking", apparently at the end the MR2's were still taking bits off each other >:D
After dispensing with eight cars my being cautious had let the front runners be to far down the road to catch so after a rubbish day I just went for the finish and wound up a disappointing distant tenth but still got a trophy for first in class !!!!!!!!!!!
Carl Hayward was there for support and noted that the smaller cars that did not have the straight line speed I had, gained two advantages over me in that they did not have the weight I had to get slowed for the corners and were then much more nimble though the corners even though he could see I was on the limit most of the time.
Also showed me I have now gone the wrong way with diff gears and need to revert back to a 4.4.
plus side was once the car stayed running it was perfect, no smoke and not a drop of oil used all day so all my oil surge issues have now gone .
May go to the all comers race at brands in two weeks time to see what the cars like with a different gear in the back end.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2017, 08:01:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2017, 08:01:38 AM
Time to start choppy chopping the car then. I however don’t know where you could start making holes.
If the race organisers know how bad the guys in the MR2s are why don’t they do something about it, after all every pays to race and it would seem they are spoiling it for the rest?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2017, 09:09:47 AM
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2017, 09:09:47 AM
Phew got to race then! Not sure what was going on with Tsl Timing...showed you on the grid then you disappeared so i feared the worst.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 16, 2017, 09:36:30 AM
Post by: Casey on October 16, 2017, 09:36:30 AM
Saw the TSL timing results before your above report; two qually laps and then "no show" in the first race and 10th in the 2nd, so I guessed you had an issue that you managed to sort.
Glad you got one full race done at least - and a trophy :13: - hoping the bodywork damage is not a difficult fix :(
Glad you got one full race done at least - and a trophy :13: - hoping the bodywork damage is not a difficult fix :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 17, 2017, 11:50:05 AM
Post by: re japi on October 17, 2017, 11:50:05 AM
Wow... That was I fight then...
Yep, I agree, car has to lose weight, alot! :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
How did you get first in class then?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 17, 2017, 12:46:38 PM
Post by: clive on October 17, 2017, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
How did you get first in class then?
Last man standing in class !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2017, 12:58:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2017, 12:58:42 PM
That’s showing your reliability now
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 28, 2017, 09:25:08 AM
Post by: clive on October 28, 2017, 09:25:08 AM
Off to Brands today for the last proper racing of the year,
Tidied the car up on the quick after the Civic attack, put a new model battery we have started to sell, metered out the ignition system out and found the fuse that blew was too low on amperage, so ready for tomorrow the longer All Comers Races tomorrow ,
lets see how it performs with a lower diff fitted. If I can find enough grip I'm hoping I can get out of Druids, get it into 4th and this will them take me all the way along Cooper Straight, if it works I think it could find a lump of speed rather than feathering out in 3rd down the hill then changing into 4th after the corner.
As the car is way to kind on the tyres, I was going to change tyre brand to a softer tyre, but realised if I did and the turns out to be faster, then I wouldn't know if it was just tyres that made the improvement!.
http://www.msvracing.com/media/2833/timetable-28-29-oct-bh-issue-three.pdf
Tidied the car up on the quick after the Civic attack, put a new model battery we have started to sell, metered out the ignition system out and found the fuse that blew was too low on amperage, so ready for tomorrow the longer All Comers Races tomorrow ,
lets see how it performs with a lower diff fitted. If I can find enough grip I'm hoping I can get out of Druids, get it into 4th and this will them take me all the way along Cooper Straight, if it works I think it could find a lump of speed rather than feathering out in 3rd down the hill then changing into 4th after the corner.
As the car is way to kind on the tyres, I was going to change tyre brand to a softer tyre, but realised if I did and the turns out to be faster, then I wouldn't know if it was just tyres that made the improvement!.
http://www.msvracing.com/media/2833/timetable-28-29-oct-bh-issue-three.pdf
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Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 09:31:19 AM
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 09:31:19 AM
Have fun and good luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 28, 2017, 10:45:54 AM
Post by: Casey on October 28, 2017, 10:45:54 AM
??? I thought you were racing on the Sunday and was trying to swing things to get down there, but obviously heard you wrong on the phone with the background noise on Thursday ;) :)
Colchester Utd playing at home this afternoon; typical, so no go this pm :(
Have a great day, weather looking good here, so hope the same at Brands for you :great:
Colchester Utd playing at home this afternoon; typical, so no go this pm :(
Have a great day, weather looking good here, so hope the same at Brands for you :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 01:06:01 PM
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 01:06:01 PM
Think hes racing tomoz but left today.. he certainly didnt line up for quali today...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
Best of luck fir tomorrow. Iv been taking too a lad this week about your car and journey back into racing etc as he’s built a civic to race in the civic cup, sas he’s spent 17000 building it told me he’s got wing mirrors that cost him 500!!! So I would imagine they’re going too let him about one race before someone smashed them off
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 28, 2017, 10:33:35 PM
Post by: clive on October 28, 2017, 10:33:35 PM
Sorry for any confusion,
Took the car out to Brands today and unloaded the car, Racing Tomorrow (Sunday)
Put a lot more down-force on the car with a lot more wing front and rear in the hope of sacrificing straight-line speed for corner speed, gotta try these things to see what difference can be made, good or bad.
Took the car out to Brands today and unloaded the car, Racing Tomorrow (Sunday)
Put a lot more down-force on the car with a lot more wing front and rear in the hope of sacrificing straight-line speed for corner speed, gotta try these things to see what difference can be made, good or bad.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 10:43:13 PM
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 10:43:13 PM
Bit like F1 need the downforce to generate the grip and heat in the tyres!...have fun!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:10:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:10:11 AM
Car looks great clive! Sure it won’t be long before you get some JGTC style wide arches on there.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:11:57 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:11:57 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/b812d53ebbc5e611625c8f2f21c57c9f.jpg)
Not exactly what I had in mind but something along those lines lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 10:02:00 AM
Going to try and get down to Brands for the two races at 13.05 and 15.15 :13:
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Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:07:40 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:07:40 AM
Cool...get some driveby vids if possible?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
good excuse not to do the tip run...on TSL timing ready for qualify! go For it Clive!
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Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:56:15 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 10:56:15 AM
need to get on there!!! Clives Flying!!!!lap times are tumbling. :sign0098: :13:
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Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 11:00:00 AM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 11:00:00 AM
Leaving in 10 mins, should be down by 12.30....camera packed :)
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Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:02:22 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:02:22 AM
Lapping at 56 secs atmo!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:10:44 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:10:44 AM
Good Job hope theres vid of qualifing !.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Is 56 really quick
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
6 secs of the 650bhp subaru! So i dont think its too shabby! Some fast machinery out there!.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
First race DNF. Clive pulle off as car had gone into limp mode. Experiment with ABS wasn't a success. Now sorted for 2nd race. Races running about 15mins ahead of schedule, but race after Clive stopped, so may push things back to published scheduled.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
Wondered what was going on...got confused.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 03:14:37 PM
I logged onto tsl...15 mins early and still missed race...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 04:09:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 29, 2017, 11:13:04 AMSubaru was 6 seconds quicker? That’s a lot of time.
6 secs of the 650bhp subaru! So i dont think its too shabby! Some fast machinery out there!.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 04:17:47 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 04:17:47 PM
Pretty sure not the nippon scooby...just what the commentator said it had at least 650bhp...so as a bench march and prob on slicks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 04:46:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 29, 2017, 04:17:47 PMAh Reyt.
Pretty sure not the nippon scooby...just what the commentator said it had at least 650bhp...so as a bench march and prob on slicks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Sadly, Clive's 2nd race didn't go well. Car went into limp mode on the rolling start lap. I'll let Clive explain the details later. Really disappointed for Clive, as he put in several sub 56 sec laps in the first race, with more to come I'm sure.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 29, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2017, 09:44:22 PM
First up, the Subaru was Dale Gent's Thunder Saloon Slick shod mental horsepower car.
Really disappointed about today, Car's still stuck in limp mode !
Positive first, 1.1 seconds faster than the last time out at Brands and I had no confidence in the brakes, so I felt that I had maybe another second to come with no other mods. Cars now faster on the straight and braking what I thought was far to early for Paddock Hill it was pulling 130 mph, so its got some grunt now.
Brakes felt like the ABS was kicking in so rather than pulling the fuse I decided (wrongly) to un-clip the cables in the boot, first lap gave me the biggest lock up I think I have ever had with just the fronts working.
Shot back in the pits, for a pit stop by my trusty crew to reconnect the cables (Malcolm :great:) and with the brakes now working I was looking forward to getting my head down to see what it would do---------------and it went into limp mode !!
Back in the pits did the ECU reset and thought it was sorted------------wrong and now it won't come out of limp mode at all :(
Codes come up all Throttle, Maf related etc, etc.
P2123 P0102 P0108 P0031 P0037 P2008 PO443 P2259 P0661
If any one has any ideas I'm listening, first thing I will try is to refit the stock ECU I changed a few years back, as it looks like from all these codes that the ECU may have lost outputs ??
Really disappointed about today, Car's still stuck in limp mode !
Positive first, 1.1 seconds faster than the last time out at Brands and I had no confidence in the brakes, so I felt that I had maybe another second to come with no other mods. Cars now faster on the straight and braking what I thought was far to early for Paddock Hill it was pulling 130 mph, so its got some grunt now.
Brakes felt like the ABS was kicking in so rather than pulling the fuse I decided (wrongly) to un-clip the cables in the boot, first lap gave me the biggest lock up I think I have ever had with just the fronts working.
Shot back in the pits, for a pit stop by my trusty crew to reconnect the cables (Malcolm :great:) and with the brakes now working I was looking forward to getting my head down to see what it would do---------------and it went into limp mode !!
Back in the pits did the ECU reset and thought it was sorted------------wrong and now it won't come out of limp mode at all :(
Codes come up all Throttle, Maf related etc, etc.
P2123 P0102 P0108 P0031 P0037 P2008 PO443 P2259 P0661
If any one has any ideas I'm listening, first thing I will try is to refit the stock ECU I changed a few years back, as it looks like from all these codes that the ECU may have lost outputs ??
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:21:17 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:21:17 AM
That many codes Clive sounds like lost power on loads of sensors..so suspect engine loom feed power supply....or a earth fault...
Ill look at drawings later ( at work)...eng cont1 springs to mind.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:26:26 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:26:26 AM
In addition that p0108...barometric circuit high...thats on the 5v circuitry...the 5v's is generated from the pcm itself and as its high fault...suggests over 5v among other things so possibly a spike...worth checking alternator output running etc.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
P2123...throttle position high input...again this is 5v circuitry generated from the pcm...
Id be running up and checking voltage output from alternator...reving it if she will and you wanna be seeing max 14.4dc volts..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
Sounds like a good call Jon :icon_thumleft:, especially when you couple it with Clive having a fuse blow on a circuit a couple of times, which might also suggest higher than expected voltage triggering a blow on a fuse near the amp limit for the circuit.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
Summit up for multiple codes...fingers x the pcm is ok. Be interested to know what fuse that blew was feeding.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 30, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
Post by: clive on October 30, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
Thank you, but the alternator does not run through the the ECU nor does the ignition as this has an independent circuit and feed directly from the cut out switch.
Going to try and find the time later to change the ECU back to the original unit that came with the car.
I had another ECU integrated into the car when I was trying to solve the way back electric issues, hopefully the car still recognises the original.
Going to try and find the time later to change the ECU back to the original unit that came with the car.
I had another ECU integrated into the car when I was trying to solve the way back electric issues, hopefully the car still recognises the original.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 10:24:08 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 10:24:08 AM
What i mean is if the regulator Rectifier is playing up you may have greater voltage than 12v on all your subsystems...alternator rectifier should not put out more than 14.4 v...so if say spiked 16v then the stepdown transformer circuit in the pcm would be higher than 5v..so all return signals etc would re input higher than normal voltages..and thats what some of the codes are showing. Circuit higher than referenced values.
Just an easy test across the battery with the car running and few revs to make sure stable 14.4v.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
To put it another way....where does the volts running the ecu come from...the battery and alternator and will run on the highest voltage it sees...may not be the issue but easy check to rule out....difficult to explain what i mean...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 30, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
Post by: clive on October 30, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
No feeds are being used from the alternator feeds, no idea without checking to know what actually powers up the ECU but I suspect that this is still from the ignition feed that's no longer powering the coils.
LCLewis called and he is convinced that the only thing that will keep the car in limp mode is the OMP, got one some where so I will have a try at this first.
LCLewis called and he is convinced that the only thing that will keep the car in limp mode is the OMP, got one some where so I will have a try at this first.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 12:28:54 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 12:28:54 PM
The volts have to come from the battery, which is being charged by the alternator, so the ECU will see the alternator voltage when the engine is running as they are all connected when ignition is on. I'm not aware you have any other power source other than the alt or battery?? So Jon's point is still valid, as is the OMP theory.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
P0108 is barometric sensor i know without 1 fitted car will not run...this again is circuit high which suggest a very high input back into pcm...
What happens when you clear codes...do these come straight back...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 02:17:44 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 02:17:44 PM
Yes, they came straight back when Clive cleared them at the circuit, did a ECU reset and ran the engine again. Limp mode straight away and codes back as before.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Just been thinking. Was it right to do an ECU reset? This will clear all the eccentric shaft plate data which then takes the car a while to relearn? If I recall correctly, the car then has to go through a "drive cycle" (including leaving the car to idle for 10mins or so) before the engine relearns all the settings/trims.
Maybe off beam, but thought worth adding, in case relevant.
Also found this on RX8club.com
"Typical limp mode is a 4k rev limit but should act somewhat normally below that, though pretty down on power. I say "typical", because there are a few different limp modes, for example there is a "limp mode" for an accelerator pedal position sensor failure that pegs the RPM at 3,000rpm regardless of the temp of the car and what you are doing with the pedal."
However, wouldn't that failure have thrown up a code?
Maybe off beam, but thought worth adding, in case relevant.
Also found this on RX8club.com
"Typical limp mode is a 4k rev limit but should act somewhat normally below that, though pretty down on power. I say "typical", because there are a few different limp modes, for example there is a "limp mode" for an accelerator pedal position sensor failure that pegs the RPM at 3,000rpm regardless of the temp of the car and what you are doing with the pedal."
However, wouldn't that failure have thrown up a code?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 03:08:24 PM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 03:08:24 PM
Hang on....ecu reset ecu learn 2 different things...dont think the 20 brake stomp actually clears codes never actually tried to clear codes that way...its for relearning e shaft profile and resetting fuel trims.
Ecu reset should be done with a scan tool..clear codes and rescan data.
Doing a 20 brake stomp shouldnt cause any issues.
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Ecu reset should be done with a scan tool..clear codes and rescan data.
Doing a 20 brake stomp shouldnt cause any issues.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:16:39 PM
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:16:39 PM
I was listening 2nd race live commentary from link that Lisa shared... And I was really sorry for Clives bad luck. But good thing is that you were more than second faster than your previous outing. It shows good progres 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
Short drive-by video of Clive's car in 1st race:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
Defo looks like got some speed !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
Post by: Casey on October 30, 2017, 07:05:44 PM
A few pics too..... :)
Clive in the 1st race, and his retirement about 1 lap from the end.
..................and some of the competition in the same race ???
Clive in the 1st race, and his retirement about 1 lap from the end.
..................and some of the competition in the same race ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on October 31, 2017, 11:24:15 AM
Post by: rote8 on October 31, 2017, 11:24:15 AM
I think I am going to refrain from wishing you good luck Clive, it seems more like the kiss of death. ;D Sorry to hear of the latest woes, especially as it is another 'odd one', you don't seem to do simple. :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 31, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
Post by: clive on October 31, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
OK, Here go------------Christine strikes again :(
Changed OBD, no reboot, no good ::)
Changed Mazda ECU for the origonal, no reboot, and it's a revving SUCCESS ;D
Changed OBD, no reboot, no good ::)
Changed Mazda ECU for the origonal, no reboot, and it's a revving SUCCESS ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Cool...but something blew ecu...so now need some tests to find out what .an ecu should not fail like that...im working atmo ill give you a bell tomoz mate.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on November 01, 2017, 06:29:30 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on November 01, 2017, 06:29:30 PM
well done makes me want to invest in one just to keep as a spare well done now go racing .....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 01, 2017, 08:47:57 PM
Post by: Casey on November 01, 2017, 08:47:57 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 31, 2017, 03:26:53 PMI agree, RX-8 ECU's are very reliable, so why did this blow? In my experience with computer electronics, the most common cause of electronics failure is power supply issues - power spikes or over-voltage. I still have a niggling feeling of the alternator running too high an output and the ECU power regulator is unable to cope. Could be completely wrong, but an ECU failure is very unusual.
Cool...but something blew ecu...so now need some tests to find out what .an ecu should not fail like that.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2017, 08:54:33 PM
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2017, 08:54:33 PM
I didnt get chance to ring Clive today but will do tomoz. I was gonna suggest some basic checks as i agree with you Casey.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mazdarotaryparts on November 02, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Post by: Mazdarotaryparts on November 02, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Spoke with Jon this morning and checked a couple of things out,
Not actually driven the car but no codes showing in the ECU, also checked the battery as I had a different battery.
Still showing 12.6 volts. Balanced charged correctly with a 13.88 end voltage so it looks like no spike from this.
Still looks like it was something screwed in the ABS system from when I had the rear sensors disconnected ???
Not actually driven the car but no codes showing in the ECU, also checked the battery as I had a different battery.
Still showing 12.6 volts. Balanced charged correctly with a 13.88 end voltage so it looks like no spike from this.
Still looks like it was something screwed in the ABS system from when I had the rear sensors disconnected ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
Did you check the voltage output from the alternator at idle, and over the full rev range of the engine?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 03, 2017, 09:00:05 AM
Post by: clive on November 03, 2017, 09:00:05 AM
I watch the dash mounted Volt meter all the time because the alternator shows a discharge on tick over due to the size of the pulley not spinning the alternator fast enough.
On revs it produces 13.8 volts.
On revs it produces 13.8 volts.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
Have you by chance accidentally shorted the connector some how when disconnecting the ABS?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 03, 2017, 11:25:39 AM
Post by: boosted on November 03, 2017, 11:25:39 AM
having looked at the technical manual for abs/tcs on here...the logical and safest way to disable dcs is the 30a dcs fuse and the way for dcs and Abs is the 60a abs/dcs fuse....the big 60Amp fuse is the abs and dcs pump so with no power it cant pump break fluid...
as ive said i think before holding the dcs button for more than 10secs actually puts the unit into fault as its a switched neutral...and holding it in disconnects the unit from neutral and as the module is only expecting an input to go off for a sec or 2 its goes into fault and will only reset with a cycle of ignition which then resests the unit...popular opinion suggests the switch does not really really turn the system fully off.
as ive said i think before holding the dcs button for more than 10secs actually puts the unit into fault as its a switched neutral...and holding it in disconnects the unit from neutral and as the module is only expecting an input to go off for a sec or 2 its goes into fault and will only reset with a cycle of ignition which then resests the unit...popular opinion suggests the switch does not really really turn the system fully off.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 03, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
Post by: clive on November 03, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2017, 09:02:07 AM
Have you by chance accidentally shorted the connector some how when disconnecting the ABS?
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Good thought Grant, I will have a look at the ends of the wires just in case they could have earthed out but as they are shrouded in plastic, probably not :(.
Really worrying I still have no answer :-[
Jon, thank you for the info, maybe at the brands track day, providing the car keeps going, I will pull just the ABS fuse and see what I get.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 07, 2017, 08:11:19 PM
Post by: clive on November 07, 2017, 08:11:19 PM
Nothing new to report other than a friend of mine sorted out the qualifying video from Brands last week. Consistent 56's with a best of 56.2
https://youtu.be/RbKHQJKzU2g
In the search for at least another second before a change of tyres, decided the steering rack and the super heavy boot lid has to go.
Rear wing will need redesigning so its not supported by the boot lid, it will be interesting to see how much these items weigh it at.
https://youtu.be/RbKHQJKzU2g
In the search for at least another second before a change of tyres, decided the steering rack and the super heavy boot lid has to go.
Rear wing will need redesigning so its not supported by the boot lid, it will be interesting to see how much these items weigh it at.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
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finally had chance to watch!..wow got some poke down the straights!...its just the bends to sorts..
positive feedback...i dont like the steering mate...seems like its got no feel and a lot of steering input steering wheel is upside down at 1 point and when turning in understeer feedback wind off wind in scrubbing the front tyres all the time..and when winding off powering out of bends gotta turn steering wheel 120degress plus so no chance of that quick flick to counter oversteer from the back lighting up ....manual quick rack...give you more feeback where the grip is...
roadrunner back beep beep lol...take the horns off save some weight. :P :great: :13:
finally had chance to watch!..wow got some poke down the straights!...its just the bends to sorts..
positive feedback...i dont like the steering mate...seems like its got no feel and a lot of steering input steering wheel is upside down at 1 point and when turning in understeer feedback wind off wind in scrubbing the front tyres all the time..and when winding off powering out of bends gotta turn steering wheel 120degress plus so no chance of that quick flick to counter oversteer from the back lighting up ....manual quick rack...give you more feeback where the grip is...
roadrunner back beep beep lol...take the horns off save some weight. :P :great: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 09, 2017, 04:12:21 AM
Post by: re japi on November 09, 2017, 04:12:21 AM
You have to race against Radicals and Lotus 7s? That black Scooby looked fast...
But yes, seems like you have some good power there. Open up throttle and there some good grunt from low revs :13:
But yes, seems like you have some good power there. Open up throttle and there some good grunt from low revs :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on November 10, 2017, 03:57:43 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on November 10, 2017, 03:57:43 PM
Clive's new rear wing
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-Mx-5-MK2-5-1-8i-Convertible-Manual-Petrol-2002-CUSTOM-MODIFIED/122794849302?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49138%26meid%3D42ef7c9c51bc42d38425e221af2e739b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D162743024255&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-Mx-5-MK2-5-1-8i-Convertible-Manual-Petrol-2002-CUSTOM-MODIFIED/122794849302?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49138%26meid%3D42ef7c9c51bc42d38425e221af2e739b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D162743024255&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Oh my! Its pram handle...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 11, 2017, 08:07:40 AM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2017, 08:07:40 AM
Poor little thing must come to a stop going down the straights with its little standard 1.8 engine :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 11, 2017, 08:51:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 11, 2017, 08:51:38 AM
I bet it does wheelies once it reaches 88mph
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 11, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
OK, we may have the answer for the 12Volt spike.
My mate Philip had all the cars from the camera and worked out literally frame by frame that the car went into limp mode at exactly the same point on the track all three times, making it far too much of a coincidence.
I have not had a chance to look yet, but he believes that its steering angle that caused the issues either by a rubbing loom or the electric rack which is feed by 12volts has fed back into the ECU and caused the issue.
"However" next week my £50 steering rack MX-5 NC rack will arrive and I will strip it to convert from hydraulic to a manual rack, target is to get the car out for the track day at Brands 1st of December.
My mate Philip had all the cars from the camera and worked out literally frame by frame that the car went into limp mode at exactly the same point on the track all three times, making it far too much of a coincidence.
I have not had a chance to look yet, but he believes that its steering angle that caused the issues either by a rubbing loom or the electric rack which is feed by 12volts has fed back into the ECU and caused the issue.
"However" next week my £50 steering rack MX-5 NC rack will arrive and I will strip it to convert from hydraulic to a manual rack, target is to get the car out for the track day at Brands 1st of December.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on November 12, 2017, 10:12:03 AM
Post by: rote8 on November 12, 2017, 10:12:03 AM
I am sure that you have more than enough technical and physical help to get this done by Brands Hatch, but if you need someone to make the tea and make encouraging noises I am available. ;D :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 12, 2017, 11:05:52 AM
Post by: clive on November 12, 2017, 11:05:52 AM
Quote from: rote8 on November 12, 2017, 10:12:03 AM
I am sure that you have more than enough technical and physical help to get this done by Brands Hatch, but if you need someone to make the tea and make encouraging noises I am available. ;D :icon_thumright:
Thanks Ray, see you at Brands which hopefully won't become your last outing after all.
You could always take it off the road and put a tow bar on your jeep and borrow my trailer just to use it for track days.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on November 15, 2017, 08:41:04 PM
Post by: rote8 on November 15, 2017, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: clive on November 12, 2017, 11:05:52 AM
You could always take it off the road and put a tow bar on your jeep and borrow my trailer just to use it for track days.
Thanks for the offer Clive, but I have knocked this issue about in an effort to find a resolve. Even with only doing a limited number of track days (four or possibly five local ones) with storage, fuel, tyres, brakes etc. Even allowing for no need to tax and insure the vehicle I am probably looking at circa 3k for the year, something I can no longer afford unfortunately.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 17, 2017, 08:44:58 PM
Post by: clive on November 17, 2017, 08:44:58 PM
Well as they say, always learning!
Bought in an MX-5 NC hydraulic steering rack and despite sharing the floor pan with the RX-8 there's no way this would ever fit as it mounts different and is too narrow-----------game over for that idea then!
Still determined to lose weight and have a manual rack, I stripped an RX-8 rack and have made it manual and also now understand how the RX-8 rack can steer via the steering ECU without the driver knowing !
If you look at the picture with the arrow, you will see a spiral and this runs the shaft up and down within a sleeve with ball bearing races so when the rack gets a signal from the ECU the motor can wind the rack automatically.
This spiral (arrowed) is why with no power the steering will not self centralise and needs physically winding back on the steering wheel when there's a fault making the car undriveable
I also found that the quill shaft , whist it looks one piece is a sprung loaded two piece shaft which must be to absorb road shocks back up to the driver with no power on the rack and being forced round this could potentially have sheered leaving me with no steering at all ???.
To convert I had a smooth bore brass sleeve turned up which fits up the end to stop the spiral interfering (circled)
The two piece quill shaft is now welded together and I have chopped off the motor plus removed the six big magnets from inside the motor tube , dumping lots of weight in the process.
I now have a completely manual rack that will have no fitting issues to get it back on the car:)
At brands in December I will know if it gives me the extra driver feedback I hope I will now have.
Bought in an MX-5 NC hydraulic steering rack and despite sharing the floor pan with the RX-8 there's no way this would ever fit as it mounts different and is too narrow-----------game over for that idea then!
Still determined to lose weight and have a manual rack, I stripped an RX-8 rack and have made it manual and also now understand how the RX-8 rack can steer via the steering ECU without the driver knowing !
If you look at the picture with the arrow, you will see a spiral and this runs the shaft up and down within a sleeve with ball bearing races so when the rack gets a signal from the ECU the motor can wind the rack automatically.
This spiral (arrowed) is why with no power the steering will not self centralise and needs physically winding back on the steering wheel when there's a fault making the car undriveable
I also found that the quill shaft , whist it looks one piece is a sprung loaded two piece shaft which must be to absorb road shocks back up to the driver with no power on the rack and being forced round this could potentially have sheered leaving me with no steering at all ???.
To convert I had a smooth bore brass sleeve turned up which fits up the end to stop the spiral interfering (circled)
The two piece quill shaft is now welded together and I have chopped off the motor plus removed the six big magnets from inside the motor tube , dumping lots of weight in the process.
I now have a completely manual rack that will have no fitting issues to get it back on the car:)
At brands in December I will know if it gives me the extra driver feedback I hope I will now have.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2017, 08:49:45 PM
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2017, 08:49:45 PM
Happy days...and saving about 60 amps load as well.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 25, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
Been busy on the car ready for Brands next Friday.
New steering rack is fitted (just got to get the tracking done)
As the car runs cool I sheet'd off the bulk of the holes in the under tray in the quest for more downforce, however I can remove this if it starts getting warm.
Pulled the front struts off and fitted softer springs to try and get a bit more bite on the front, which will also cut down understeer.
Stuck some trade plates on and zapped it up the road / steering will take a bit of getting used to, unlike the man-draulic steering on the RX-4 you feel literally every pebble in the road!
Steering is very very positive and is light enough once on the move, yes it requires more effort but it will be much more precise on track.
More importantly whilst I only did 4 miles it was hopefully enough to say its OK because at Brands last time it was only taking around a mile to go into limp mode.
Soon as I got back and before killing the master, I code read it and got P2259, secondary air injection system but these are just loose plugs so I would expect that.
The only other two are PO108 & PO103 which indicates Maf sensor fault and I know it needs this to run so I will replace that in the week.
New steering rack is fitted (just got to get the tracking done)
As the car runs cool I sheet'd off the bulk of the holes in the under tray in the quest for more downforce, however I can remove this if it starts getting warm.
Pulled the front struts off and fitted softer springs to try and get a bit more bite on the front, which will also cut down understeer.
Stuck some trade plates on and zapped it up the road / steering will take a bit of getting used to, unlike the man-draulic steering on the RX-4 you feel literally every pebble in the road!
Steering is very very positive and is light enough once on the move, yes it requires more effort but it will be much more precise on track.
More importantly whilst I only did 4 miles it was hopefully enough to say its OK because at Brands last time it was only taking around a mile to go into limp mode.
Soon as I got back and before killing the master, I code read it and got P2259, secondary air injection system but these are just loose plugs so I would expect that.
The only other two are PO108 & PO103 which indicates Maf sensor fault and I know it needs this to run so I will replace that in the week.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 06:46:05 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 06:46:05 PM
Interesting on the Maf...ive lost 2 on the westy...wont go above 4500rpm...cleaning done nothing....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:50:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:50:07 PM
Clive’s going to build up some big forearms now with the Manuel rack
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
Lol is he spanish too?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
Dont worry i cant speel either...ha ha.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:52:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:52:24 PM
That was part of my Micky taking lol
Clive Manuel haynsford
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
Ahh get it now...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
After going go karting last xmas for works do, we’re going again this year hopefully and not did those things give me forearm cramps!! I would consider myself fairly strong too but I had to wrestle those things
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:57:36 PMLol
Ahh get it now...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:58:53 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 07:58:53 PM
Yeah n bad back next day.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 08:09:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 08:09:33 PM
Extremely bad as I have to get the padding taken out out completely as I’m too big in the back to fit in properly lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 08:10:39 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 08:10:39 PM
Aint been karting in ages.....much fun.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 08:13:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 08:13:10 PM
Yep, I was the fastest out of out group of mates. I would have gone faster if I wasn’t being so aggressive and trying to ram a guy that had been ramming me until he made me half spin. They base your position based on laptime as they have mixed groups including young kids etc who always spin out stopping hot laps!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
I was always come 4th...throw it away by spinning or crashing going for the win...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 25, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
Post by: clive on November 25, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
Don't get hooked on Karts, now that costs serious money to play/
Glenn Butcher, who founded MRC with me sponsored his son this year in Karts-------yes he did very very well and made the World Finals at LeMans and won a race along the way to the final but at a cost the wrong side of 100 K !
Manual (soon to be Popeye) Haynsford ;)
Glenn Butcher, who founded MRC with me sponsored his son this year in Karts-------yes he did very very well and made the World Finals at LeMans and won a race along the way to the final but at a cost the wrong side of 100 K !
Manual (soon to be Popeye) Haynsford ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 09:15:12 PM
I learnt last time I went to give yourself room infront so you can go for a quick couple of laps without someone holding you up. More fun actually racing others in a group all together though, outwitting each other etc
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 09:16:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2017, 09:16:54 PM
I won’t e getting into karts at all, rather play with big cars for less money, although 2 strike motors are my dads speciality
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
Well Brands was an interesting test on Friday with lots of info to make changes for next year,
The changes to the softer front springs to get more front bite and the extra sheeting under the car searching for more front down force seems to have worked without affecting cooling so that's positive.
Really surprised about how good the steering and found that whist the stock RX-8 is super light, I didn't realise how little feel I had, I even found my driving style was different with less steering input required, yes its heavy but stll manageable but wow, I now I can feel the tyres properly.
Happily the car ran fine so whatever the ECU limp mode thing was, the fault has gone by changing the stock ECU :)
Next up was the brakes, I have struggled with brake feel for a while now, changing pad compounds and bleeding to no avail, I now know the ABS pump as on the odd occasion the pedal was becoming rock hard with no braking effect at all. Bottom line is you can drive a race car anywhere near properly if you have no confidence the brakes are actually going to work.
For the last session on track I pulled the main ABS/ DSC fuse and set off and by now the track was a little dryer so I could pull 5th properly which translates in 125/130 into Paddock and as I went for the brake the fronts completely locked immediately, so it was off the brake and a softer push to ease the car into Paddock.
I had a look next time round to find fresh 20 foot skid marks on the track.
This has made me realised that the ABS must be working overtime to compensate for the big front Racing Brake kit up front to keep the brake bias in check.
So all this has made me realise the stock RX-8 brake system simply cannot cope with what I am asking from it now so I have made the decision that we need a full blown "race" brake system on the car and done with to give me better and later braking.
So out goes the RX-8 servo and rear calipers and in will come a proper cockpit adjustable bias duel brake master cylinder set up and FD four pot calipers for the rear, as pictured below :great:
Without the need for the ABS system this also means the chassis wiring loom can go, saving weight in the process :13:
I'm sure Jon (Boosted) said he filled 7 carrier bags of loom the last time he stripped an RX-8 !
The changes to the softer front springs to get more front bite and the extra sheeting under the car searching for more front down force seems to have worked without affecting cooling so that's positive.
Really surprised about how good the steering and found that whist the stock RX-8 is super light, I didn't realise how little feel I had, I even found my driving style was different with less steering input required, yes its heavy but stll manageable but wow, I now I can feel the tyres properly.
Happily the car ran fine so whatever the ECU limp mode thing was, the fault has gone by changing the stock ECU :)
Next up was the brakes, I have struggled with brake feel for a while now, changing pad compounds and bleeding to no avail, I now know the ABS pump as on the odd occasion the pedal was becoming rock hard with no braking effect at all. Bottom line is you can drive a race car anywhere near properly if you have no confidence the brakes are actually going to work.
For the last session on track I pulled the main ABS/ DSC fuse and set off and by now the track was a little dryer so I could pull 5th properly which translates in 125/130 into Paddock and as I went for the brake the fronts completely locked immediately, so it was off the brake and a softer push to ease the car into Paddock.
I had a look next time round to find fresh 20 foot skid marks on the track.
This has made me realised that the ABS must be working overtime to compensate for the big front Racing Brake kit up front to keep the brake bias in check.
So all this has made me realise the stock RX-8 brake system simply cannot cope with what I am asking from it now so I have made the decision that we need a full blown "race" brake system on the car and done with to give me better and later braking.
So out goes the RX-8 servo and rear calipers and in will come a proper cockpit adjustable bias duel brake master cylinder set up and FD four pot calipers for the rear, as pictured below :great:
Without the need for the ABS system this also means the chassis wiring loom can go, saving weight in the process :13:
I'm sure Jon (Boosted) said he filled 7 carrier bags of loom the last time he stripped an RX-8 !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
Do you think you will get more wear out of the tyres you have been using then or do you think you still need softer compound?
Just something I remember you saying earlier in the thread?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Always going to want more grip so it looks like because the car is very kind on tyres (too kind) I will change to Toyo 888R
However I would like to see what the car performs like on proper slicks and have a go at some proper lap times in the All Comers series
However I would like to see what the car performs like on proper slicks and have a go at some proper lap times in the All Comers series
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 07:24:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 07:24:11 PM
I can see the progress of your car in next couple of years clive, you will have gotten more grip and then more suspension, then eventually maybe just maybe you will go “ I need more rotorsâ€
Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Rx8 quad rotor twin turbo awd!.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
Cant do more power, as the stock gear box and diff won't take more power and I can't see me ever affording a sequential box to take above the power I already have.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 03, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Rx8 quad rotor twin turbo awd!.
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O'my, the stuff dreams are made of ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2017, 08:14:12 PM
Post by: boosted on December 03, 2017, 08:14:12 PM
Money...the stumbling block...yep...things i build if i had the cash!. 13b turbo formula ford...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 08:17:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 08:17:57 PM
You can get a well built T56 for a lot cheaper than you think
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 08:17:57 PM
You can get a well built T56 for a lot cheaper than you think
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Anyone got 2.5 K for sponsorship ;)
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/TREMEC-TUET11009-GM-LS-T56-Magnum-6-Speed-Manual-Transmission,67175.html
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Post by: re japi on December 04, 2017, 07:52:31 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2017, 07:52:31 AM
Thats the problem with newer cars. Steering is made so light that you wont feel the tires...
Same thing with ABS. They arent made for heavy breaking. Even thought newer cars have quite good ABS system and stuff, purpose of the ABS is basically the opposite that racing needs
My opinion is that always when building race car, scrap those stuff. After all. When using basic manual stuff, posibility to breaks and electrical faults becames smaller, so you have more reliable car...
Anyhoo, looking forward to see your updates! :)
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Same thing with ABS. They arent made for heavy breaking. Even thought newer cars have quite good ABS system and stuff, purpose of the ABS is basically the opposite that racing needs
My opinion is that always when building race car, scrap those stuff. After all. When using basic manual stuff, posibility to breaks and electrical faults becames smaller, so you have more reliable car...
Anyhoo, looking forward to see your updates! :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: clive on December 03, 2017, 10:31:02 PMI don’t think it’s that much comparatively too the some of the rest of the parts purchased.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 03, 2017, 08:17:57 PM
You can get a well built T56 for a lot cheaper than you think
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Anyone got 2.5 K for sponsorship ;)
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/TREMEC-TUET11009-GM-LS-T56-Magnum-6-Speed-Manual-Transmission,67175.html
It’s a large’ish amount on one item but just add the cost of a few things together.
Tyres
Brakes
Turbo
Turbo rebuild
Engine builds
Roll cage
It all adds up in the end.
However the cost of installing a 20B would be the costly part
Oh yeh and there’s the adapter housing to bolt the gear box too a rotary engine too on top of the gear box cost
Great too follow your journey and the cars develoment, especially now your having fun with it instead of rebuilding bits
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 04, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
Post by: clive on December 04, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
Thanks Jarno/ Grant.
I was always trying to keep the RX-8 close to stock if possible chassis wise but the more I want from the car the more it has to become more of a proper race car ???
Whilst Lisa has no problem with what I spend on the race car, I always remember at the start of the project, Lisa saying it would be a good idea to keep a folder on the build of the car etc and I said Noooooooooooooooooo, as I know a bit here and a bit there adds up and I really would not want to know the figures involved ::) ::) ::)
Gear box, looks like that box would work dependant on matching ratios across, adaptor would not be a problem because my mate Steve is a qualified fitter and turner.
Looks like the box fits various cars so, maybe, just maybe a used box will come up over the next year.
I was always trying to keep the RX-8 close to stock if possible chassis wise but the more I want from the car the more it has to become more of a proper race car ???
Whilst Lisa has no problem with what I spend on the race car, I always remember at the start of the project, Lisa saying it would be a good idea to keep a folder on the build of the car etc and I said Noooooooooooooooooo, as I know a bit here and a bit there adds up and I really would not want to know the figures involved ::) ::) ::)
Gear box, looks like that box would work dependant on matching ratios across, adaptor would not be a problem because my mate Steve is a qualified fitter and turner.
Looks like the box fits various cars so, maybe, just maybe a used box will come up over the next year.
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
http://www.jegs.com/p/Quick-Time-Bellhousing/Quick-Time-Mazda-Engine-Adapter-Bellhousings/2834606/10002/-1
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 01:01:30 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 01:01:30 PM
Tough old gearbox...this is Rob Dahm fitted on his 3 rotor tubby init? After destroying several 7 boxes?.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 01:04:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 01:04:19 PM
Yeh he’s has, he also changed the diff too a 8.8
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
His car is ropeyere than mine lol...but then it is very much quicker...i watch his vids and think if he just took abit more time and care car altough great would be epic. Highly entertaining though...looks like the 4 rotor is a different build....any onboard Vid Clive of Brands ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 02:31:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 02:31:06 PM
Dahms 3 rotor is an embarrassment and he just finds it funny. Although the four rotor build he’s supposed to be spending like 250,000 on as he’s wanting it to take the land speed record for a rotary.
Have you seen his latest video? His manifold has more holes than a 50 year old wool moth eaten jumper and his turbo has a divided housing on it which is being fed by an undivided manifold! Probably one of the causes of all the cracks at the collector due to an excessive build of heat where the divide on the turbo is, at a guess anyway.
From what I understand he bought the car like that so not his doing.
He’s also buying a new turbo for the three rotor as he wants 1,000 hp!!
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Have you seen his latest video? His manifold has more holes than a 50 year old wool moth eaten jumper and his turbo has a divided housing on it which is being fed by an undivided manifold! Probably one of the causes of all the cracks at the collector due to an excessive build of heat where the divide on the turbo is, at a guess anyway.
From what I understand he bought the car like that so not his doing.
He’s also buying a new turbo for the three rotor as he wants 1,000 hp!!
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
Dahms 3 rotor is an embarrassment and he just finds it funny. Although the four rotor build he’s supposed to be spending like 250,000 on as he’s wanting it to take the land speed record for a rotary.
Have you seen his latest video? His manifold has more holes than a 50 year old wool moth eaten jumper and his turbo has a divided housing on it which is being fed by an undivided manifold! Probably one of the causes of all the cracks at the collector due to an excessive build of heat where the divide on the turbo is, at a guess anyway.
From what I understand he bought the car like that so not his doing.
He’s also buying a new turbo for the three rotor as he wants 1,000 hp!!
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Have you seen his latest video? His manifold has more holes than a 50 year old wool moth eaten jumper and his turbo has a divided housing on it which is being fed by an undivided manifold! Probably one of the causes of all the cracks at the collector due to an excessive build of heat where the divide on the turbo is, at a guess anyway.
From what I understand he bought the car like that so not his doing.
He’s also buying a new turbo for the three rotor as he wants 1,000 hp!!
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Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 02:52:03 PM
Post by: boosted on December 04, 2017, 02:52:03 PM
Yeah saw but didnt understand lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 05, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 05, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
Oh just remembered, when you go too that kind of gear box you get the amazing piece of engineering called a hydraulic clutch release bearing, gives you more option of clutches and much cheaper too.
The hydraulic clutch release bearings they do for our chocolate gear boxes are £800 from the states!!! I know what I’d rather save that money for
What does the aero “feel†like then comparatively too what a standard rx8 feels like?
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The hydraulic clutch release bearings they do for our chocolate gear boxes are £800 from the states!!! I know what I’d rather save that money for
What does the aero “feel†like then comparatively too what a standard rx8 feels like?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2017, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: clive on December 04, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
I was always trying to keep the RX-8 close to stock if possible chassis wise but the more I want from the car the more it has to become more of a proper race car ???
Yes, I do understand that. And its actually very cool way to show how good car 8 really is...
But there is that problem, wanting more and more :)
Btw, google Sainz gearbox (or something like that), they do reasonable prized seqvential boxes. And Samsonas gearboxes are really awesome. Bro has talked with their spesialist about butting their box in his 7...
I have been youtubing racing RX8 vids almost as long as that car have been in production. Thailand, Japs, Kiwis and Aussies have some awesome 8s! I always thought that car has lots of potential. Unfortunately that modern crap slows it down. Heavy electrics, comfortable seat, emision stuff. Okei, its suppose to be family saloon but still... :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2017, 03:34:41 PM
Post by: re japi on December 05, 2017, 03:34:41 PM
I realized few days ago that what Mazda did wrong in marketing / selling RX-8. They really should have had Coupe Sport version with this saloon. Even thought same specs, but still. I think that people did wanted that... Think about early RXs models, coupes were very popular... Just a thought...
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Post by: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Dont worry about electrics...snippety snippety snip soon.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:04:42 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:04:42 PM
And the Clever Mazda engineers added a lightening reaction to the design ethos....just add time and water....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Dont worry about electrics...snippety snippety snip soon.
:wee_hee:
Out of interest It will be a good idea to weigh all the discarded loom ;)
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Post by: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:22:29 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:22:29 PM
Jarno, as its the same floor pan the MX-5 NC was fitted with the Rotary and had back to back tests against the piston engined version before they is settled on the piston MX-5. A few MX-5OC got to drive these Rotary versions out in Germany. This would have been exactly the car you was talking about.
Grant, good heads up, but I was playing with McLeod hydraulic release bearings many many years ago when I was still involved in Drag Racing ;)
Gear Box was a good call, as the car is now developing, maybe for the year after if I get real serious with a different engine and running in a series with full slicks, lets see how next year goes.
Grant, good heads up, but I was playing with McLeod hydraulic release bearings many many years ago when I was still involved in Drag Racing ;)
Gear Box was a good call, as the car is now developing, maybe for the year after if I get real serious with a different engine and running in a series with full slicks, lets see how next year goes.
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 05, 2017, 08:32:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 05, 2017, 08:32:19 PM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:22:29 PMI wonder what the difference in weight is between the 8 and an mx5 and also the difference in weight the piston mx5 had too the rotor powered one??
Jarno, as its the same floor pan the MX-5 NC was fitted with the Rotary and had back to back tests against the piston engined version before they is settled on the piston MX-5. A few MX-5OC got to drive these Rotary versions out in Germany. This would have been exactly the car you was talking about.
Grant, good heads up, but I was playing with McLeod hydraulic release bearings many many years ago when I was still involved in Drag Racing ;)
Gear Box was a good call, as the car is now developing, maybe for the year after if I get real serious with a different engine and running in a series with full slicks, lets see how next year goes.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:22:29 PM
Jarno, as its the same floor pan the MX-5 NC was fitted with the Rotary and had back to back tests against the piston engined version before they is settled on the piston MX-5. A few MX-5OC got to drive these Rotary versions out in Germany. This would have been exactly the car you was talking about
Yes, I did know that its same floor pan.. But I didnt know that they tested MX with rotary. I thought that rotary were never even an option for them... But when you think about how popular MX is, its kind of proofs my point...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:15:34 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:09:07 PMYou will be surpised how much electics actually weights... So, as some wise man once said: snippety snipQuote from: boosted on December 05, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Dont worry about electrics...snippety snippety snip soon.
:wee_hee:
Out of interest It will be a good idea to weigh all the discarded loom ;)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:21:44 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2017, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 05, 2017, 08:32:19 PMI think MX four banger is actually quite light weight. So I dont think that there is much weight difference there... But everything else is much lighter. MX doesent have so much unnecessary crap like hifi stereo system. Also just seats alone are heavy at 8...Quote from: clive on December 05, 2017, 08:22:29 PMI wonder what the difference in weight is between the 8 and an mx5 and also the difference in weight the piston mx5 had too the rotor powered one??
Jarno, as its the same floor pan the MX-5 NC was fitted with the Rotary and had back to back tests against the piston engined version before they is settled on the piston MX-5. A few MX-5OC got to drive these Rotary versions out in Germany. This would have been exactly the car you was talking about.
Grant, good heads up, but I was playing with McLeod hydraulic release bearings many many years ago when I was still involved in Drag Racing ;)
Gear Box was a good call, as the car is now developing, maybe for the year after if I get real serious with a different engine and running in a series with full slicks, lets see how next year goes.
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Btw, Kees charged highpower MX is quite good example for how awesome MX could be with rotary engine
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2017, 08:30:13 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2017, 08:30:13 AM
1100kg - 1150kg for the mx5 NC
1309-1373kg for the rx8!
I bet those rotary powered mx5s were very quick having basically 2 passengers less weight in them!
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1309-1373kg for the rx8!
I bet those rotary powered mx5s were very quick having basically 2 passengers less weight in them!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
If that 1 i did wiring for ever surfaces on ebay or suchlike ill be all over it like a rash..
Cagd ohlins 5.1 diff...app. its tucked away in someone garage....
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Cagd ohlins 5.1 diff...app. its tucked away in someone garage....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 10:32:46 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 10:32:46 AM
Kees...i know he bought an nc shell in uk...is this car finished ? Any details...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 06, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 06, 2017, 10:32:46 AM
Kees...i know he bought an nc shell in uk...is this car finished ? Any details...
Yes it was converted and Kees brought it to Rotorystock this year 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 08:40:39 PM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2017, 08:40:39 PM
So SC rx8 powered mx5? Cool any piccies?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 07, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
Post by: re japi on December 07, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
I have some photos in my Photopucket. It was really nice car. Kev desided that he will build similar too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 15, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Post by: clive on December 15, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Now we seem to have a car thats starting to do what it says on the tin, I'm already preparing for 2018
Managed to get a set of wets from the BTCC Team Dynamics team, so I haven't got to worry about the rain anymore :great:
I have had my 18 year sitting in the garage FD calipers refurbed by Biggred,so tomorrow I will start looking at making the brackets to get them on the back.
Had a look at the rules and it only says brakes to be operational on all four wheels, so no messing around fitting a hand brake :)
RX-8 Bias brake pedal box with its two master cylinders have arrived in kit form, pics to come.
Managed to get a set of wets from the BTCC Team Dynamics team, so I haven't got to worry about the rain anymore :great:
I have had my 18 year sitting in the garage FD calipers refurbed by Biggred,so tomorrow I will start looking at making the brackets to get them on the back.
Had a look at the rules and it only says brakes to be operational on all four wheels, so no messing around fitting a hand brake :)
RX-8 Bias brake pedal box with its two master cylinders have arrived in kit form, pics to come.
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Post by: boosted on December 15, 2017, 03:14:39 PM
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2017, 03:14:39 PM
They look very nice indeed. Pretty much brand new.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2017, 03:30:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2017, 03:30:04 PM
No handbrake! But how will you do hand brake turns??!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
With 400bhp...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 19, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 19, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
How is the winter modifications going?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 21, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Post by: clive on January 21, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Quick update Grant and all/
Pedal box is installed and as of yesterday the car is sitting in Jon's garage for a full rewire to get rid of all the offending stock RX-8 we dont need any more plus redo all the wiring mods the poor thing has had to give the car a safe wiring system / and hopefully shed some weight
Pedal box is installed and as of yesterday the car is sitting in Jon's garage for a full rewire to get rid of all the offending stock RX-8 we dont need any more plus redo all the wiring mods the poor thing has had to give the car a safe wiring system / and hopefully shed some weight
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2018, 05:07:06 PM
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2018, 05:07:06 PM
Yep in my garage...been all over it today and just sent you an email Clive with my proposal.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/56347a62313246e5f8694aefdec8c658.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2018, 07:00:09 PM
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2018, 07:00:09 PM
Starting tomoz on redundant engine loom plugs, cut off wires pulled out and de pinned at ecu plug. Check still starts then move onto cabin looms and fuse boxes. Working weekend nights then with 2 days hols got a full uninterrupted week on it so I can get my head in zone which is essential with electrics.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:08:25 PM
Lol...Christine bit me...well no bit of blood on Clives engine. Small cut on finger slicing insulation tape...few pics so far...had to knock up a over bonnet light...and like slippage so far. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/0b2af657123999146c02c3165bdc385f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/a297f2242840330f3a2ff6c7dbbd5dde.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/ef0a427e2451666dbadc052ce7aca0d3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/9ad0104b11bfa4eb5ed03fe6d8bf0bda.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/1d59d6c616211ed20f128a6fd35a1f5c.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:26:42 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:26:42 PM
I have a solution...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/0600422b1ddd61334afcf8d3b245e724.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:38:08 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 02:38:08 PM
I thought..gonna cut myself in a mo..get a glove...neighbour keeps interrupting time too...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on January 24, 2018, 02:42:26 PM
Post by: rote8 on January 24, 2018, 02:42:26 PM
Jon I hope you are not thinking of using that bloody(ied) insulating tape on the bench in Clive's engine bay. :))
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Post by: Casey on January 24, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
Post by: Casey on January 24, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
What about thumb protection ;)
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
Use a bluntish Stanley blade, save you cutting yourself and looking silly
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 03:04:40 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 03:04:40 PM
Yep blunted it...electrians always blunt there knives...done me thumb too. I could've just unplugged everything and pulled it out but wanted to do on car and see what's what...plus the bloomin gearbox switches are on this loom...I'm gonna extend this loom with another loom once all redundant out. Coffee time..can't see my blood on Clive engine it's red...superglue man,d up and crack on.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/3460a0dc74b9826413c8342671e8828e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
Not sure what's going on with injectors...seems to have 2 feeds...need to look at drawings...worry later...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 04:44:09 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 04:44:09 PM
Loom will be out today...pls Christine be n8ce...just the 2 from underneath...eeek. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/e9ebf00c52de5708b92899d838469361.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/babbd63d3746facd4e808f16132aac11.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/16c71e7f55848de4e3d9b637c6e8667d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 05:41:54 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 05:41:54 PM
Loom is out, 1 casualty coil T1 plug depinned itself..but prob blessing in disguise as fell apart in my fingers. Loom can now be picked apart and loose rear 02 sensor and reverse switch...poss neutral.. I know it effects idle need to speak to Clive. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/dfa2daf64e39df7a1074e9ae609fc8f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/ac45b9e46bcc8ab97b40d5d8378934fa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/d85c7c1c3248a47f257f71fcb0e08716.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/6f9cda70914022f01f5a19cf9d43a155.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/b5306bfe89aff66a9a7704bd863f298d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
May have anew pin at work. Fingers x...not my poorly 1. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/44cd3f3f2c3fd379d12e7999a7a822f0.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 06:00:36 PM
Blimey Jon, best pay you blood money on top now :D
Not surprised you chopped yourself that blade thingy looked lethal ???
Bought two 192 Head lamp units and a couple of H7 bulbs so you can just literally run one power line and an earth through a flip switch on the dash, as said all we need is head lamps that just light up for scrutineering.
The original lamps will stay on the car for now as the 231 and 192 units are identical bar the ballast units underneath so the H7 bulbs will fit.
Reason for leaving them in is because the whole nose and splitter assembly will need to come off to get to the bottom bolts that hold the head lamp units in,
Well done Jon your a star for taking this on, thank you :great:
Not surprised you chopped yourself that blade thingy looked lethal ???
Bought two 192 Head lamp units and a couple of H7 bulbs so you can just literally run one power line and an earth through a flip switch on the dash, as said all we need is head lamps that just light up for scrutineering.
The original lamps will stay on the car for now as the 231 and 192 units are identical bar the ballast units underneath so the H7 bulbs will fit.
Reason for leaving them in is because the whole nose and splitter assembly will need to come off to get to the bottom bolts that hold the head lamp units in,
Well done Jon your a star for taking this on, thank you :great:
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Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:05:24 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:05:24 PM
Cool...can you see why need neutral switch in gearbox? In gear brings up idle...?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2018, 06:07:30 PM
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2018, 06:07:30 PM
Christine strikes again! She is going to get you cause you are cutting her :-D
Damn that loom looks complicated...
Did you take her for a little spin around town before started to work on it? ;-)
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Damn that loom looks complicated...
Did you take her for a little spin around town before started to work on it? ;-)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:12:54 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:12:54 PM
No mate lol...no brakes atmo....
Clive, red and black cables to big injectors what's going on here seems to be twin triggers? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/b2d754a9b492b122d80052fa7220810a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/98928ea2fe022337a29b2be012bb9db7.jpg)
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Clive, red and black cables to big injectors what's going on here seems to be twin triggers? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/b2d754a9b492b122d80052fa7220810a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180124/98928ea2fe022337a29b2be012bb9db7.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
It's an 8 loom so loads of stuff like vdi ssv airpump not needed...it's just a case of identifying what's redundant and pulling back out...I did on car some un picking just to refresh my memory as there are some power connections hidden in the loom and a bit of daisy chaining...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Get car running and just keep chopping until engine cuts out. Reconnect that cable then continue currinf
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Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
Yep...engine loom first...car running then cabin...hoping todo loom tomoz morn8ng and then get back in afternoon got dig my spare loom out think it's in shed of all places...wanna lengthen loom so ecus can be mounted in an electrical box safe n sound...I have 1 left over from Westy. Then pinch the single and bodge my rotten old set of twins on and hope Clive don't notice...I have a new phone and it has to relearn text...raa.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:44:06 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:44:06 PM
Think I'm gonna do the loom in yellow insulation tape.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
Done some reading, Neutral switch staying, ive read will not engage cruise control etc on 8s, maybe more control measure were not aware off so think best to stay...so is it the white or black connectors lol...white im 99% sure.
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
Do it in pink
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
With all the cable being stripped is the the engine loom becoming completely independent from the car?
I know this would cost more money but does the ecu you run clive have the availability for a stand alone ecu wire in harness?
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I know this would cost more money but does the ecu you run clive have the availability for a stand alone ecu wire in harness?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:00:28 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:00:28 PM
the loom is independent Grant just 2 power feeds from cabin. 3 plugs direct to ecu. weirdy all electrical devices are on this engine loom bar the Maf which is on the cabin loom. Clive runs 2 ecu's mazda and Adaptronic, there linked by jumper harness. ....i found your omp Clive...lol...think ill put that behind the dash! :13:
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Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 07:07:29 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 07:07:29 PM
Clive, red and black cables to big injectors what's going on here seems to be twin triggers?
Jon I really can't remember, sorry I can only say please keep it the way it is because it works, last thing we need is an injector not working and it runs lean ;)
You have now seen my idiot code so the injectors cant be mixed up, yellow for the front and blue for the back, for the primary's and the secondary's / just like the colours on the car :)
No Jon, sorry the stand alone Adaptronic is a totally different unit, yes it would all be tidier but we have to live with the ECU's we have I'm afraid. :(
Got to have the OMP or it will throw a hissy fit ::)
Jon I really can't remember, sorry I can only say please keep it the way it is because it works, last thing we need is an injector not working and it runs lean ;)
You have now seen my idiot code so the injectors cant be mixed up, yellow for the front and blue for the back, for the primary's and the secondary's / just like the colours on the car :)
No Jon, sorry the stand alone Adaptronic is a totally different unit, yes it would all be tidier but we have to live with the ECU's we have I'm afraid. :(
Got to have the OMP or it will throw a hissy fit ::)
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Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:14:38 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:14:38 PM
Message recieved.. I have marked the injectors and photos big time.they will go back on where they came from..I will run as is when I check the drawings I think it's twin triggers but will stay as found .I will retain the neutral switch in GB for reasons above. Omp staying but I think I can mount behind dash to keep out of spray from rain water etc? Up to you boss!
1 other thing I noticed whilst underneath is solenoid connector on starter the solder joint is loose...only slightly but just letting you know...
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1 other thing I noticed whilst underneath is solenoid connector on starter the solder joint is loose...only slightly but just letting you know...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
I need a pin for the coil harness maybe have 1 at work but if you have 1 pop in post?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
I need a pin for the coil harness maybe have 1 at work but if you have 1 pop in post?
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If its one of these then I literately have just this one and i'll get it in the post tomorrow if it is.
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Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Yep yes please.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 07:48:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 24, 2018, 07:48:59 PM
Ah so the adaptronic is a plug n play unit. Plug into stock harness
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:50:36 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2018, 07:50:36 PM
Yes mate I'll get a picky tomoz
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on January 25, 2018, 07:19:07 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on January 25, 2018, 07:19:07 AM
If you need more connectors when you get further into the loom, there available here https://www.durite.co.uk/s/c/wiring-accessories/connectors-bus-bars-and-junction-boxes/multiple-connectors/superseal-terminals
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Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 07:37:55 AM
Cool thanks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Wires wires...don't think I'm wired up right...I'm really enjoying myself. Got a big scrap pile...this is just the engine Loom! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/64d711aba9a6977e018a0d5ee0c2264a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdb54ad291e3a754dba3514053eb8a88.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:31:58 AM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:31:58 AM
Right break time..footsie cold..
Loom is deconstructed, every redundant wire out, epoxy glue all peeled off...every wire accounted for...only 2 heartstopping moments...x2 extra trigger wires fell out of crimps! Turning loom over so mad frantic flick through photos to see what colour went where...and 2 left over wires...cut at plugs...Yep original trigger wires...traced them no crossover where they should be so Clive mustve thought break in 1 of these so plumbed fresh cable in.
Need various tidy up repairs now and lengthen so I have to dig my spare out and continue snippety snip. Few piccies last pic loom ready for lengthening and repairs.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/158aac39f9ad00bf27afe8c869cf1634.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/7dd18bf066e17ab141f76d5532f15a0f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/8cc4355a9d505d2533c4a95b76a47110.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/df73ec4e55eefef7488c823c9d35f007.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fbd05085652981263223fbc2e962f1c1.jpg)
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Loom is deconstructed, every redundant wire out, epoxy glue all peeled off...every wire accounted for...only 2 heartstopping moments...x2 extra trigger wires fell out of crimps! Turning loom over so mad frantic flick through photos to see what colour went where...and 2 left over wires...cut at plugs...Yep original trigger wires...traced them no crossover where they should be so Clive mustve thought break in 1 of these so plumbed fresh cable in.
Need various tidy up repairs now and lengthen so I have to dig my spare out and continue snippety snip. Few piccies last pic loom ready for lengthening and repairs.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/158aac39f9ad00bf27afe8c869cf1634.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/7dd18bf066e17ab141f76d5532f15a0f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/8cc4355a9d505d2533c4a95b76a47110.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/df73ec4e55eefef7488c823c9d35f007.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fbd05085652981263223fbc2e962f1c1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2018, 11:52:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2018, 11:52:07 AM
Where are you relocating the ecu too??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
It's up under dash...gonna move into passenger footwell. Needs a bit more length.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
Break time brain melt. Currently splicing 2 looms together to get the length...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 04:30:05 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 04:30:05 PM
6 cables Togo....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 05:03:07 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 05:03:07 PM
1 race car engine loom. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/6be5264d9b2bfff5502913006ae64b23.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 05:49:46 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 05:49:46 PM
Loom in, got get under for neutral switch and connect up inside. Omp inside now .can see the rotary goodness now...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/f6d3e60766a004fd7d075deca6bb68f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/52980804b778924d8374950226db0fed.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
How much weight savings
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
It runs woohoo...but I had a mad hour....2 fuel switches...helps if you turn them both on...hr of my life with my brain doing the speed of light...so tidy up tomoz...and move an earth back to its proper tidy location run up to temp afternoon nap...and do night shift then get ready for immobiliser and cabin chop Monday through to Friday...soz no photos off loom inside tomoz...fair bit of weight I'm bagging it all up for Clive...did put abit back in by loom extend.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/e5710e4cb67f13931afa24240cb327b8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 08:18:14 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 08:18:14 PM
Start and finish and a prawn (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/ddc3701b9cd5f3b243cdd5696fc978ea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/3104969287b753968c309a556f230bf5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/32021731b7b2ec6268fc68c9841d1ab0.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on January 25, 2018, 09:27:42 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on January 25, 2018, 09:27:42 PM
:sign0098: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 09:30:10 PM
Post by: boosted on January 25, 2018, 09:30:10 PM
Would've started first time had I turned on the big fuel pump lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on January 25, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on January 25, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
:dontknow: :dontknow: :violent1: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2018, 08:07:26 AM
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2018, 08:07:26 AM
Damn, thats a LOT unnecessary wires! ??? Good job Jon :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Cheers mate. More to come.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2018, 10:48:51 AM
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2018, 10:48:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i83-mk7Tfg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2018, 04:45:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2018, 04:45:15 PM
Just listened full blast through my car speakers!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on January 26, 2018, 05:04:42 PM
Post by: Casey on January 26, 2018, 05:04:42 PM
Well done Jon, SOUNDS a great job ;D
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Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
After a little nap we start again tomoz...this is when the real weight saving will start.
Hoping to have time for "injecto seat cuz!" Blow n go!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 07:47:50 PM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 07:47:50 PM
Take the big boys home.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/dcb64a2d4034aa6acaef903902bb0a98.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 28, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 28, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
None of my snips are that clean!!! They must be new
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 09:08:09 PM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2018, 09:08:09 PM
Couple of years old but a tad cumbersome so don't get used much...chomp through anything...knipex !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2018, 05:34:24 PM
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2018, 05:34:24 PM
Right made a start...bit hanging from nights...Clive wont mind me saying this yep it's a mess...made my head hurt...followed some wires and found some interesting things...a set of airhorns lol!...pretty much been poking and prodding everywhere and deconstructing car and now gonna spend the evening contemplating my next move...which I think is start again...theres more to come out than stay so looks easier to remove the lot and rewire the basics to run the car. Very much like the loom in my westy it just get confusing with all the adds on to the car that I need to reverse engineer.
May sound a bit negative but that's just fallout of night shift haha and everything in there fine I just didn't do it ...so much like somebody else working on the electrics of my Westfield...so few piccys lol...it'll be fine good sleep and crack on tomoz.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/25f2d6074dad207aefdec232320d3f6f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/a0b1e733385c6d9c77f9566be9eaacd1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/d1f439fefc27ff43e89815995b7cc31b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/3b4eb6889f052cc4a89c2616a0ef3031.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/f49bced7c5910c8f35f2a87b7e47bbeb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/5b525b224eba4f5bf6fc9253e3b00981.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/4c1b15841cc3c33c68aa87c4c0058688.jpg)
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May sound a bit negative but that's just fallout of night shift haha and everything in there fine I just didn't do it ...so much like somebody else working on the electrics of my Westfield...so few piccys lol...it'll be fine good sleep and crack on tomoz.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/25f2d6074dad207aefdec232320d3f6f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/a0b1e733385c6d9c77f9566be9eaacd1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/d1f439fefc27ff43e89815995b7cc31b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/3b4eb6889f052cc4a89c2616a0ef3031.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/f49bced7c5910c8f35f2a87b7e47bbeb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/5b525b224eba4f5bf6fc9253e3b00981.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/4c1b15841cc3c33c68aa87c4c0058688.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2018, 05:36:48 PM
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2018, 05:36:48 PM
And them airhorns...da da dar dar diddy diddy diddy dar dar! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/c3cabf308531a946262726bad366aea5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180129/2a925704849c22779f8edc0401cb08ba.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Well Christine is keeping me awake...lol...I went to bed thinking of wires everywhere and woke about an hour ago..im in night mode so up looking at the drawings with a nice glass of Bailey's.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 30, 2018, 05:56:32 AM
Post by: re japi on January 30, 2018, 05:56:32 AM
Damn, I really feel sorry for you. ;) I have allways hated electrical work cause I dont know much about them. But looking at your work and that amount of wiring, no wonder you cant sleep. But really, you are doing :sign0098:
Now, you can go for a spin around town. Hmm, I feel like that area near you is inviting you. You know, that area where we went for a spin with your FD. Open roads, lots of roundabouts ;) ::)
Now, you can go for a spin around town. Hmm, I feel like that area near you is inviting you. You know, that area where we went for a spin with your FD. Open roads, lots of roundabouts ;) ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
I hate going into other people s wiring work, always quicker to start again so you don’t waste time working out bodges
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 09:59:19 AM
Right. Had a good sleep, bloomin shift work messes up your body clock...have an action plan..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:26:45 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:26:45 PM
Right flying today...strip out...got a junk pile and put back in pile....
Clive.
Air horns...stay or go?
Heated screen wiring stay or go....got the windscreen panel off...evident of it shorting out...positive tab floating about..
Have we got current draw info on them big coils (aems) at present 2 feeds to them 1 from engine power and 1 from additional feed? Maybe engine feed cut further up that arm loom?
Found a lost Allen key too lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/0afb0b657d55905673b898dea3cda8fd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/6d5929d6a954a9f1c11c19920eefea6a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/39e4fb0d15d4d9f58e644c5535a93db6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/f976d1b9ee813184e0bfbd4f953fbba0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/927e2593686aa8b5f82493111de2e5cb.jpg)
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Clive.
Air horns...stay or go?
Heated screen wiring stay or go....got the windscreen panel off...evident of it shorting out...positive tab floating about..
Have we got current draw info on them big coils (aems) at present 2 feeds to them 1 from engine power and 1 from additional feed? Maybe engine feed cut further up that arm loom?
Found a lost Allen key too lol (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/0afb0b657d55905673b898dea3cda8fd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/6d5929d6a954a9f1c11c19920eefea6a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/39e4fb0d15d4d9f58e644c5535a93db6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/f976d1b9ee813184e0bfbd4f953fbba0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/927e2593686aa8b5f82493111de2e5cb.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 12:28:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 12:28:58 PM
Info on smart AEM coils
http://www.aemelectronics.com/files/pr/071211_High_Output_Coils/High_Output_Coils_PR.html
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
Last photo by tunnel can see extended engine loom plugs...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/bbb8130c69033eb97d5ef110bbeb7f08.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Max current 19Amps
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:30:22 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:30:22 PM
19Amps..Cheers Grant your a Star!...Yep need a bigger feed than supplied by engine loom.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:43:05 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:43:05 PM
On fire today...lol..Right thumbs up for Grant..get cracking again. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/03d56a980f404cf5a019a532334124a3.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 30, 2018, 01:14:58 PM
Post by: re japi on January 30, 2018, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 30, 2018, 12:43:05 PMHappy camper!
On fire today...lol..Right thumbs up for Grant..get cracking again. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/03d56a980f404cf5a019a532334124a3.jpg)
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Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
Those AEM coils are powerful too! Clive got them from me as we did a swapsies
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 30, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
Post by: clive on January 30, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
Best lose my ye ha horns then, it was a bit of fun for the marshals and spectators on the end of race slowing down lap ;)
Now "we" are on a weight saving program they had better go :(
Now "we" are on a weight saving program they had better go :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2018, 02:20:00 PM
Air horns are full of air so they don’t weight anything
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Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:33:12 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:33:12 PM
Weight saving so far....there's nothing from seat back bar rear abs sensor wiring and edfc and light plugs...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/39c31e48a7fabe99f108bf2b6c1247bd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/1025521e8466fdd3433eee3a5a23ba4b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/a08df5da0052e3d9568ea36d1361783f.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
Few more piccies...it's all nearly out...then the real work starts 're wiring...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/cb4869d049c1520e0bd0bff2978f3743.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/0ebd6e71eea4d10223d3dd2cc5148994.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/53a10ae2d0e6f74e2c339ea7175fa419.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
Pee n coffee break and a nice Granola bar nom nom.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 04:03:15 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 04:03:15 PM
DSC. Don't fink this gonna work again...
Clive done Arf do bolts up tight...upside down up under dash...unduing throttle pedal bolt top bolt...frik8n tight...thatshow I know you've changed it...air was blue. Lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/7795c1c6d7adf052df16b8b5e43eb622.jpg)
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Clive done Arf do bolts up tight...upside down up under dash...unduing throttle pedal bolt top bolt...frik8n tight...thatshow I know you've changed it...air was blue. Lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/7795c1c6d7adf052df16b8b5e43eb622.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 05:40:28 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 05:40:28 PM
Upside down behind the dashboard ....ciggy lighter going..lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 05:43:31 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 05:43:31 PM
Pushing on tonight get everything out...it's allot of weight....just had "discussion" with neighbour about kids playing football by my cars....did not end well....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 07:24:52 PM
Right tools down for day...achieved what I need to for today...shower dinner and a glass of Baileys( Lidl equiv) . Got a little vid for you guys...tomoz have a look at extra wiring and start making up the throttle brake and clutch switch looms..and immobiliser loom. And mad and barometric looms. Basically all switches all analogue signals b4 power circuits and outputs.
got 2 piles in vid keep and junk...big 1 junk...fair amount of weight more than Westy...
Clive did you remove the keyless receiver as I've strip everything and no sign of it?
Plus what to with heated screen...cut the 2 remaining tabs off?
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got 2 piles in vid keep and junk...big 1 junk...fair amount of weight more than Westy...
Clive did you remove the keyless receiver as I've strip everything and no sign of it?
Plus what to with heated screen...cut the 2 remaining tabs off?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4x8waS-3M
got bored of planet rock so stuck some dance music on and crappy attempt at mood filming lol. fingers hurt mazda dont have make there plugs fiddly. :violent1:
got bored of planet rock so stuck some dance music on and crappy attempt at mood filming lol. fingers hurt mazda dont have make there plugs fiddly. :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 31, 2018, 06:19:13 AM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2018, 06:19:13 AM
Hi Jon,
4 Years ago, sorry cant remember about the recever :-[
Leave the tags, you never know I may get the screen out one day and get the other two connections put back on,
I'm sure you know but the cig lighter powers the camera :sign0098:
4 Years ago, sorry cant remember about the recever :-[
Leave the tags, you never know I may get the screen out one day and get the other two connections put back on,
I'm sure you know but the cig lighter powers the camera :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 01:42:08 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 01:42:08 PM
Right keyless receiver got my head in a spin...as part of immobiliser circuit and all though receives open signal from remote was concerned about wiring...quick call to Nick 13brotorsports and he kindly went out to his car to confirm that to start car does not need to be part of circuit...phew...my Westy is locked in neighbours garage so couldnt use mine as test...Thanks Nick!
Slow start due to above and picking apart loom to correct to get correct colours to lengthen accelerator cable...but alas not long enough...so been to work and got somenumber multicore cable so few hrs behind today...poppet been helping though...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e7bd3697ad0c5301d36e9cba5b807e34.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/24c13f3e6465f18206a93bc8051ae0c4.jpg)
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Slow start due to above and picking apart loom to correct to get correct colours to lengthen accelerator cable...but alas not long enough...so been to work and got somenumber multicore cable so few hrs behind today...poppet been helping though...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e7bd3697ad0c5301d36e9cba5b807e34.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/24c13f3e6465f18206a93bc8051ae0c4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 01:44:54 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 01:44:54 PM
Ciggy lighter on left roll bar still in...the oem 1 in the ashtray is gone.....do you need that 1?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
Right update time....felt it had a slow progress day but got a fair bit done after looking at piccys.
1. Accelerator pedal wiring in and clutch switch.
2.Maf cable in.
3. Immobiliser circuit made up.
4. Canbus cables in situ.
5. Dash part done power in can bus. Wanna power up and see what we got..
Then trying to sure out alternator and fuse box big power wiring...it's all in a black sleeving so a few pics to Jog Clives memory.
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1. Accelerator pedal wiring in and clutch switch.
2.Maf cable in.
3. Immobiliser circuit made up.
4. Canbus cables in situ.
5. Dash part done power in can bus. Wanna power up and see what we got..
Then trying to sure out alternator and fuse box big power wiring...it's all in a black sleeving so a few pics to Jog Clives memory.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 08:01:12 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 08:01:12 PM
CLIVE.
ok so power comes from Batt through race isolator...through bulkhead onto...this bus bar. Yellow cable splits into 2 cables...I believe 1 goes to alternator...( frayed). And other to fuse box. ( white)... another white through fuse book goes to starter...think that's right all covered in black oily sleeving.
Solenoid feed blue/ red there as well.
And a stray cable hanging done...black.
So I wanna pull this into dash passenger side to feed fuse box...?
Alternator..control small cables red And green?. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/37571d6d2f5f563df2390aecaab2caf1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/593665914fd8e9761c51b52404f42606.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/77416a8a1f2b6f028426de0796a3a8a9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/71120a40c70b368f5b245be9d7604224.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e486e6a4935ea159ef2113370831b18f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e2649321230a29898dc6a2b5e0d7f73c.jpg)
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ok so power comes from Batt through race isolator...through bulkhead onto...this bus bar. Yellow cable splits into 2 cables...I believe 1 goes to alternator...( frayed). And other to fuse box. ( white)... another white through fuse book goes to starter...think that's right all covered in black oily sleeving.
Solenoid feed blue/ red there as well.
And a stray cable hanging done...black.
So I wanna pull this into dash passenger side to feed fuse box...?
Alternator..control small cables red And green?. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/37571d6d2f5f563df2390aecaab2caf1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/593665914fd8e9761c51b52404f42606.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/77416a8a1f2b6f028426de0796a3a8a9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/71120a40c70b368f5b245be9d7604224.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e486e6a4935ea159ef2113370831b18f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/e2649321230a29898dc6a2b5e0d7f73c.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 08:17:35 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2018, 08:17:35 PM
I think best bet Clive is to disconnect it all...that frayed cable needs addressing...and redo. Pull the power coupler into cabin along with fuse box...I've got a lug crimper...just no lugs but can go and get some...?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
Had a phone chat with Clive, Alternator wiring being sorted :icon_thumright:
better get stuck in. :57:
better get stuck in. :57:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 12:08:44 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 12:08:44 PM
This Should be an Olympic sport...wiring with rollcage (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b520452a1b354e6af9a3e12965f9c999.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Brew time warm up me feet...
Tackling power wiring around alternator this afternoon needed morning to man up for it....did some chassis wiring back to pcm/ fuse box.
1. Fuel sender wiring.
2. Bolted down Omp on top of tunnel secure and outta way of water spray grit etc. Easy accessible If throws a fault.
3. Some bench wiring of pcm plugs, x referring to drawings and marking drawings.....Yep you get set of drawings Clive.
4. Rad Fan wiring, transponder and pass headlight wiring in. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/69b9723a5af2f13987d1d95bb9f98d1c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/a13f862375e20428fb9eb44e3c911ae9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/1d257c2d1bf30dc9b213e89e72bac8dc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/cd80f291c3494fff71130b7a09cc72f4.jpg)
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Tackling power wiring around alternator this afternoon needed morning to man up for it....did some chassis wiring back to pcm/ fuse box.
1. Fuel sender wiring.
2. Bolted down Omp on top of tunnel secure and outta way of water spray grit etc. Easy accessible If throws a fault.
3. Some bench wiring of pcm plugs, x referring to drawings and marking drawings.....Yep you get set of drawings Clive.
4. Rad Fan wiring, transponder and pass headlight wiring in. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/69b9723a5af2f13987d1d95bb9f98d1c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/a13f862375e20428fb9eb44e3c911ae9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/1d257c2d1bf30dc9b213e89e72bac8dc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/cd80f291c3494fff71130b7a09cc72f4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Oi Clive...."got my own oily car to crawl under" rofl...
Right alternator and starter sorted...im hang in might have a netflix day tomoz...I bumped into my sprayer mate and he hasn't started painting my eunos yet so some respite...
I'm junking the plastic box the ecus are going on the back of the firewall with a yet to be made bracket/clamp...own fuse box to right of passenger footwell with a joint loom between them. More room poss get a passenger seat in there and tyres as that's where there transported.
Anyways alternator n starter wired up cables through a gland in trans tunnel..Will be last to connect when little wires done...few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/cc8abb14a61bcd700bca13665093e45b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/2a549bb3e67d9bda5c749f8fff3a84d7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/dc19f5d73ac2ea06a4f2e2e4a95affb4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3866a884926f4ffdb1c57be35c803dc7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/ad9d6ae2dbc93928a1e3e9934b282464.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b8580946767eb795c0d90cd2341eb05f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b585dee52fce197bd6331d9852759fa8.jpg)
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Right alternator and starter sorted...im hang in might have a netflix day tomoz...I bumped into my sprayer mate and he hasn't started painting my eunos yet so some respite...
I'm junking the plastic box the ecus are going on the back of the firewall with a yet to be made bracket/clamp...own fuse box to right of passenger footwell with a joint loom between them. More room poss get a passenger seat in there and tyres as that's where there transported.
Anyways alternator n starter wired up cables through a gland in trans tunnel..Will be last to connect when little wires done...few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/cc8abb14a61bcd700bca13665093e45b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/2a549bb3e67d9bda5c749f8fff3a84d7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/dc19f5d73ac2ea06a4f2e2e4a95affb4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3866a884926f4ffdb1c57be35c803dc7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/ad9d6ae2dbc93928a1e3e9934b282464.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b8580946767eb795c0d90cd2341eb05f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b585dee52fce197bd6331d9852759fa8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
Piccys overload...been shopping ultra flexible power cable 135A rated..lug set etc and some nice metal quality rocker switches.
Ecu loom plug wires all prepped too.
Quite a few holes in the bulkhead now...
Big Bailey's tonight....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/07adf164516baef187569c41e2ad0f0d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/64517aa4c271858aaff8aa07fd5dc65f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/7cf011d1480d9fa3c32fa225941486b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/0da3c1527de4c6fe154ec84793a86619.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b3316caec9b6d7cab32e59807439bc00.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/a6569376d0f675305a820b89fa491895.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3afc924c82915f72a1dc9e6ab70969dc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/e14c501f44b9a514c00125291ecfcc8a.jpg)
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Ecu loom plug wires all prepped too.
Quite a few holes in the bulkhead now...
Big Bailey's tonight....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/07adf164516baef187569c41e2ad0f0d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/64517aa4c271858aaff8aa07fd5dc65f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/7cf011d1480d9fa3c32fa225941486b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/0da3c1527de4c6fe154ec84793a86619.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/b3316caec9b6d7cab32e59807439bc00.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/a6569376d0f675305a820b89fa491895.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3afc924c82915f72a1dc9e6ab70969dc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/e14c501f44b9a514c00125291ecfcc8a.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Question for you Clive...your on a rising rate fpr? Whats the max pressure your running the 044 at? The pressure effects the current draw been reading 19amps at 6bar...an idea of your max press. Would help me determine what I wire it in...relay n cable.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 01, 2018, 09:51:02 PM
Post by: clive on February 01, 2018, 09:51:02 PM
The regulator is 1.1 and from memory the pressure is set on 60psi static
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:53:27 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:53:27 PM
So 4.5 bar...swore I saw 5bar when I turned it on lol. Cool though...sorted for current load.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:55:49 PM
Post by: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:55:49 PM
Also I got 4 rockers...do you want to replace that ewp switch or just turn it on with ignition?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on February 02, 2018, 01:22:06 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on February 02, 2018, 01:22:06 AM
I feel your pain, but it looks like your winning. I replaced all the wiring on mine at the start of last year, including fuse box and relays and failed because the new fuse box was rubbish and was restricting the current, but sorted now, start again next week with a new ECU :(
Good luck.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:11:33 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:11:33 AM
A few friends have said use a bespoke kit car loom and I was tempted with a marine fuse and relay box but I'm sticking with the oem fuse box.. couple of reasons it's very well made and its bespoke for the rx8 wiring. The current capacity for most circuits has been done for me there's just a few circuits that Need checking.
In addition the ecu has a lot of feedback so it triggers a relay and when relay is energised there is input back into ecu to confirm output. Without using it would have to frig these inputs somehow...risk of limp mode etc. The only prob is the thing is not that pretty but reliability and access take precedent. Pretty much identical set up ecu shortloom to fuse box that I did in Westfield so fingers crossed for same excellent reliability. Using crimps in the loom as Mazda do and I've painstakingly continuity checked every connection plus pulled on every 1. Inaddition im working of mazda eleccy drawings so its all oem so the drawings will still be an aid to faultfinding. I'm enjoying myself but will be off the hook of nerves when it starts and Clive has given it a good run out on track. When it's somebody else's car makes it a bit more daunting but I'm confident its gonna be fine and going for a start first time...unlike the engine loom lol...but that was me not turning on the 044 fuse pump lol.
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In addition the ecu has a lot of feedback so it triggers a relay and when relay is energised there is input back into ecu to confirm output. Without using it would have to frig these inputs somehow...risk of limp mode etc. The only prob is the thing is not that pretty but reliability and access take precedent. Pretty much identical set up ecu shortloom to fuse box that I did in Westfield so fingers crossed for same excellent reliability. Using crimps in the loom as Mazda do and I've painstakingly continuity checked every connection plus pulled on every 1. Inaddition im working of mazda eleccy drawings so its all oem so the drawings will still be an aid to faultfinding. I'm enjoying myself but will be off the hook of nerves when it starts and Clive has given it a good run out on track. When it's somebody else's car makes it a bit more daunting but I'm confident its gonna be fine and going for a start first time...unlike the engine loom lol...but that was me not turning on the 044 fuse pump lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2018, 07:14:46 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2018, 07:14:46 AM
I wish I had the same level of enthusiasm about wiring as you do, although working on a racing car is definitely more fun than pulling armoured cable in like I am doing on a Morrisons new build in st ives!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:23:20 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:23:20 AM
Nice part of the world! I grew up in Cornwall...lol..trust me Grant I dont enjoy my job as a maintenance engineer in the prawn factory...no respect... " how long " til fixed 1 breakdown after another all day but means to an end. Have not pulled in any swa for years...did a whole factory once...100mm incomer too..keeps you fit mind.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:31:42 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 07:31:42 AM
That job reminded me it was when harmonised cabling came in no more red yellow blue. Old sparky couldn't get his head round it 50 odd high bay sodiums all wired black as neutral...oh how we cussed him! At the very end all wired up to schematics...6 additional feeds for 6 insectocutors had to be pulled in but not on schematics...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 08:29:49 AM
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 08:29:49 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 01, 2018, 09:55:49 PM
Also I got 4 rockers...do you want to replace that ewp switch or just turn it on with ignition?
Morning Jon,
Probably an idea to replace the dud water pump switch using the redundant screen switch, that also lets you put the ignition switch in that hole on the central dash.
It would be a good idea for it to be independent so I can check its working away from the other electrics .
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Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:43:58 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:43:58 AM
Yep no prob. Ignition switch on centre dash so can't knock it with elbow. Water pump switch where old 1 is? Gonna put lights and wiper switch on right hand side high up...close to steering wheel so if you need em in a race there easy to find Ok? Or on panel? Just with gloves racing gets busy and you end switching several ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:46:51 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:46:51 AM
Screen switches is Edfc suspension switch? at present .power on with ignition? Use that hole for ignition ...correct?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 09:46:29 AM
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:46:51 AM
Screen switches is Edfc suspension switch? at present .power on with ignition? Use that hole for ignition ...correct?
Yes steal the red switch off the dash (screen) and use that as the water pump switch, EDFC is top line far left (with the dash the right way up ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 09:58:25 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 09:58:25 AM
Understood...have a chill day atmo...gotta get my haircut...May venture out laters....I get bored doing nothing.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 02, 2018, 11:35:35 AM
Post by: rote8 on February 02, 2018, 11:35:35 AM
All credit to you Jon :sign0098:. I'm an electrician by trade but vehicle wiring (especially on modern cars) give me nightmares :violent1:, even the wiring diagrams for them just cause me to not even attempt trying to resolve electrics on my own vehicle :dontknow:. Would never attempt anything like this and especially on someone elses car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
Cheers mate..it ain't running yet lol..same/ similar to Westy and I've sussed drawings out spent ages with looking through pdf on here so hoping for a fire first time.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2018, 12:56:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2018, 12:56:15 PM
Daft question but don’t you actually need too have working brake lights on a race car?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
Some series no but Clives series is a yes. Wire in a 2 sec delay...cars following will be amazed...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 01:10:07 PM
Some series no but Clives series is a yes. Wire in a 2 sec delay...cars following will be amazed...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2018, 02:04:03 PM
Post by: Casey on February 02, 2018, 02:04:03 PM
;D ;D Great work there Jon :thumbsup:
I'm fairly good with electronics, but don't think I could contemplate a full rewire of a modern car, especially one that's been modified, the wiring diagrams being of limited use.
I'm fairly good with electronics, but don't think I could contemplate a full rewire of a modern car, especially one that's been modified, the wiring diagrams being of limited use.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 03:54:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 03:54:08 PM
No update to day down day...errands haircut and drove a 192 for the first time...got a lovely Petitte exhaust...then I thought I'd better do house work as I dodged it last Saturday...back in garage full boost tomoz. Doubt I'll finish Sunday as planned...prob need another day or 2 so looking like a week with work in the mix.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 08:16:32 PM
Post by: clive on February 02, 2018, 08:16:32 PM
Really appreciate what your doing Jon :sign0098: - there is no rush, I will collect whenever it is ready
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:30:41 PM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2018, 08:30:41 PM
Its my pleasure Clive, the amount of times ive called you for advice and youve helped! I'm back in garage tomoz re- energized spooling up nearly went in at 4pm but I'm in goody 2 shoes house as cleaned the kitchen bathrooms and hovered so free pass for garage. I reckon 70% done.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Been in here few hrs...fuse box sorting out wires where they go. Labelling etc on the bench x ref to drawings so that goes to pcm plug 4h...and thats 4 feeds for rad fan etc so when in car the familiaristion will be good etc going over old ground and making the connections. Fuel pumps rewired with link local earth and earth being taken back to fuse book so essentially 3 earths and beefed up the 044 feed cable...lift pump is going back in the oem fuse box but still rocker switched on 1 off the 2 relays...need to check out switch rating of them whether the 044 goes on relay 2...
Where on rear lighting at present.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 03:18:56 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 03:18:56 PM
Making good use of dining table...lol
Few piccys from today's tinkerage and Wookie the best cat in the world....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/bbd2404539c430283d3cf57118ec66e8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/0a9578766d8b6ed995f6d27514e465cf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/131ab330c0fc830a87246919c4c2d835.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/bcd246c471b0df93d231add756329a9c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/3c5e0e53efe76f190b04c4d99b904a7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/c6e92e97ce2173c979650703acd2504d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/73051b4e6bbd5b627595ac5f206207a9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/e28121421fde940a62dfe2f725540ef8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2018, 03:51:02 PM
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2018, 03:51:02 PM
Cat seems to be enjoyining
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 04:08:49 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 04:08:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 02, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
Wire in a 2 sec delay...cars following will be amazed...lol
Should back up the following field nicely, or cause them to miss an apex or two. :icon_thumright: :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 04:45:14 PM
Time for al coffee "brake"(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/aef49f00a541c1599e349a20f7879b09.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2018, 05:56:39 PM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2018, 05:56:39 PM
Jon, just remembered we need yet another switch for something that's checked every time by the scrutineer / the rain light ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 06:57:48 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 06:57:48 PM
In now simple rear lights done my head...led and left and right aren't wired the same...got on 2nd go...mini light loom wrapped in red tape...only tape that's not constantly snapping 8n the cold weather...
At present rain light comes on with sidelights...and will be on a rocker switch that does via relay rear side lights and rain light and another relay that does the front low beam headlight....this ok ?
Well getting there...just the wiper motor and drivers headlight to connect and pull cables through for connecting up. Few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/258ea7e0de43ee017bc4d169e35aa5e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/d3958b23ff948990e7208673efd99fb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/6f0d6341fdaeb4f2c2f6c742f7d9823b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/6612198a7eaa90519a9d8e2c3aec9b18.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/3e166ab7a7f6a5a92074526668c4ea65.jpg)
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At present rain light comes on with sidelights...and will be on a rocker switch that does via relay rear side lights and rain light and another relay that does the front low beam headlight....this ok ?
Well getting there...just the wiper motor and drivers headlight to connect and pull cables through for connecting up. Few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/258ea7e0de43ee017bc4d169e35aa5e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/d3958b23ff948990e7208673efd99fb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/6f0d6341fdaeb4f2c2f6c742f7d9823b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/6612198a7eaa90519a9d8e2c3aec9b18.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/3e166ab7a7f6a5a92074526668c4ea65.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 07:39:56 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 07:39:56 PM
Challenge on for someone...I wanna know current rating of this relay Imasen b115...Google got me no where...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/3add54be39686cc8e5005ad95718213b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 08:14:39 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 08:14:39 PM
Might be worth an e-mail to Imasen Jon http://www.imasen.co.jp/e_home.html
Searching on e-bay for Imasen B115 brings up a whole host of relays available, but there is no info on current rating with these adds.
Suitable for Defroster, Cooling fan, Heated seats, Fog rx-8 2004 - 2007. Fog, window defroster, horn 2007 - 2008. Current draw for the heated seats is probably fairly high.
Searching on e-bay for Imasen B115 brings up a whole host of relays available, but there is no info on current rating with these adds.
Suitable for Defroster, Cooling fan, Heated seats, Fog rx-8 2004 - 2007. Fog, window defroster, horn 2007 - 2008. Current draw for the heated seats is probably fairly high.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:25:32 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:25:32 PM
Yeah that's what I found...I even hit there site but no pdfs on specs...hoping 30a not 20a...bit small for 30amp...I'll try email...thanks for looking.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 03, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
No worries, sorry I can't help more. Surprised that the wiring schematic does not show the rating.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:37:15 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:37:15 PM
No it does not various circuits use it. Ranging from 10 a 15a 20a and 1 on the acc circuit at 30a....but as I intend to use on the 044 at poss 19a I wanted to but 100% It's rated at 30a. Cant make a mistake on that circuit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 08:41:36 PM
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 08:41:36 PM
The heated seats run through a 20A fuse if that's any help.
I had a look for data on the relay too. Amazing in this day and age of the internet that I couldn't find anything either :(
Corrected - 20A fuse, just checked the diagram
I had a look for data on the relay too. Amazing in this day and age of the internet that I couldn't find anything either :(
Corrected - 20A fuse, just checked the diagram
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
I think it's a 30a...but need proof lol...just couldn't find anything.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 08:54:26 PM
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 08:54:26 PM
Note my correction! relied on 3rd party info, just checked the wiring diagram :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
I'm gonna have another look at drawings tomoz and cross ref to other Mazda cars using this relay. Acc is 30a.
Would not have thought Mazda use a 20a relay on circuit fused at 20amp mind..so extra capacity would be engineered in.
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Would not have thought Mazda use a 20a relay on circuit fused at 20amp mind..so extra capacity would be engineered in.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 09:01:10 PM
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2018, 09:01:10 PM
Here's the diagram showing 20A fuse feeding the relay contacts.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
I wonder if the wife's mps has these relays see what the circuits are fused at...me thinks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
Wire it up, turn fuel pump on, see if it melts, if so no good, if not then all good.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
If it melts...when Clive on boost...he goes lean mate...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
Test it in the car. If the car loses fuel pump the engine will stop, can’t push fuel into the engine if there’s nothing to push it in with.
Been looking for rating online, can’t find anything
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:25:58 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:25:58 PM
Me 2 weird no info on it.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
How much is a 30A relay?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:28:46 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:28:46 PM
Couple of pounds top...I got loads but want it in the oem fuse box...nice and neat.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:28:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:28:53 PM
£5-£10 on Amazon. Done deal in my eyes
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Ah right
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
It's the pin configuration it's got to right.ill look at Wife's mps tomoz.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 03, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
Is the relay switched by the ignition? Any resin why Clive couldn’t have the fuel pump on its own directly dedicated circuit, separate fuse and wiring etc?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
That's how it is atmo about 9 of them...it's untidy...there's 10 spare relays in oem box.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
Yep 10 spare relays in oem box...so all additional could go in there...nice n neat new chart for Clive...well the heater circuit is a 40 amp...and that's on b115 and Acc is a 30amp again on b115...I've got other stuff to get on with so revisit as Google again brought nothing up this morning...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 01:12:36 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 01:12:36 PM
Many Thanks for everyone coming on board to help :great:
Spent the last three days resurrecting the CX-7 from its accident, back on the road now, only cost me a couple of grand to sort out someone else's stupidity. :angry5:
Bang (literally) goes some of the money for a while that was going into the race car and the bits of paint on the RX-4 :angryfire:
Spent the last three days resurrecting the CX-7 from its accident, back on the road now, only cost me a couple of grand to sort out someone else's stupidity. :angry5:
Bang (literally) goes some of the money for a while that was going into the race car and the bits of paint on the RX-4 :angryfire:
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Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
Clive rain light ok on side lights?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
My Westy done the same...passed my race scrutineering...for 1 race racing career...ha ha..well I think I've finished all the external wiring...
I've pulled in 2 feeds Clive for wipers slow and fast just need a 3 pos switch...just think you may need it...I also de rodded the centre wiper stalks no longer rubs on your bulkhead..only balljoints and popped with a lever bar.
Ref 044...goona keep on known 30a relay others will migrate into OEM box...
Coffee time to warm up despite 2 pairs of socks me feet are freezing...
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I've pulled in 2 feeds Clive for wipers slow and fast just need a 3 pos switch...just think you may need it...I also de rodded the centre wiper stalks no longer rubs on your bulkhead..only balljoints and popped with a lever bar.
Ref 044...goona keep on known 30a relay others will migrate into OEM box...
Coffee time to warm up despite 2 pairs of socks me feet are freezing...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
Write up an invoice mate and send it too his insurance company you never No?
I once knew someone who sent invoices to big company's as a lifeline hobby...did quite well out of it...got a free house too..wormwood scrubs lol..
Seriously nothing wrong with sending them an invoice...
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I once knew someone who sent invoices to big company's as a lifeline hobby...did quite well out of it...got a free house too..wormwood scrubs lol..
Seriously nothing wrong with sending them an invoice...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 04:04:40 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 04, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
Clive rain light ok on side lights?
rain & sides are OK thank you,
We are going to try with his insurance company, but i'm not holding my breath :( at least we have still got the car we wanted, which would have been hard to replace, i.e. low mileage, one owner, full Mazda history and a fully loaded Sport Nav in the colour we wanted, plus I know from taking it apart, it had never had a knock till now .
Being a face lift model this CX-7 is the equivalent to an R3 in that there's lots of Series 1 RX-8 about in comparison to R3's so it would have been hard to replace.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 04:53:28 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 04:53:28 PM
Right in today...
All external wiring done...pulling n poking at extra relays...now to join it all together and let the electrons flow...hopefully.
Back at work tomoz so looks like Thursday now...few piccys to follow.
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All external wiring done...pulling n poking at extra relays...now to join it all together and let the electrons flow...hopefully.
Back at work tomoz so looks like Thursday now...few piccys to follow.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 05:37:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 05:37:08 PM
So quiet day today...got out to garage late...not feeling doing the final wire off fuse box to chassis and pcm...wanna do it all in 1 day..
So done wiper and routed cable up high drill couple of holes to cable tie out rain gulley. Sleeved on bends..local earth and fuse box earth. Talking of earths....cleaned up all engine bay earths...ran big engine earth out to chassis rail earth...and removed engine bay earth off of knock sensor and earth on fpr bracket...linked to chassis earth...basically bloody well earthed.
Brake switch connected up sides lights and brake light feed fed up to fuse box...rh drivers headlight wired up and fed back to fuse box.
Few issues as now there is 3 big holes into cabin that need plating and I need a suitable gland for these bay to cabin cables...else when it rains gonna flood ecu. Goona have a look in the scrap bin at work see what we got...Couple of rivets and some pull should seal up.
Still not decided on final resting place of ecus and fuse box...got plenty of cable length so ok...
Anyway got piccys of finished engine bay...no more wires in here...I wired up headlights on high beam Clive will swap onto h7 plugs mainbeam on 192 light units...that's it Thursday. Few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/6b2c35f03ebabe9a1603d6162dde93d7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/22f0568167df501a8d9627a9cb294b7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/e13d1085cd3414c479f019376ca63a0e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/cfe396a81d2a698ca988864613c0c919.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/aa0cca37c4638491266c7a3b6c391614.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/a849dbfa58c44ffe5915177ad93d896d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/44cd776d1739a7a8da2f5665230a18c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/662951de77462026c743d02e212e0f65.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/089f3295bde39656a0184f97d1a13714.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/7c642cf249feb3a59b9502273de0900d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/7c0d5fff3e304d514f283773bf6a4205.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/95aa47bebd327b1ac2883852f1abe79a.jpg)
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So done wiper and routed cable up high drill couple of holes to cable tie out rain gulley. Sleeved on bends..local earth and fuse box earth. Talking of earths....cleaned up all engine bay earths...ran big engine earth out to chassis rail earth...and removed engine bay earth off of knock sensor and earth on fpr bracket...linked to chassis earth...basically bloody well earthed.
Brake switch connected up sides lights and brake light feed fed up to fuse box...rh drivers headlight wired up and fed back to fuse box.
Few issues as now there is 3 big holes into cabin that need plating and I need a suitable gland for these bay to cabin cables...else when it rains gonna flood ecu. Goona have a look in the scrap bin at work see what we got...Couple of rivets and some pull should seal up.
Still not decided on final resting place of ecus and fuse box...got plenty of cable length so ok...
Anyway got piccys of finished engine bay...no more wires in here...I wired up headlights on high beam Clive will swap onto h7 plugs mainbeam on 192 light units...that's it Thursday. Few piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/6b2c35f03ebabe9a1603d6162dde93d7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/22f0568167df501a8d9627a9cb294b7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/e13d1085cd3414c479f019376ca63a0e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/cfe396a81d2a698ca988864613c0c919.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/aa0cca37c4638491266c7a3b6c391614.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/a849dbfa58c44ffe5915177ad93d896d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/44cd776d1739a7a8da2f5665230a18c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/662951de77462026c743d02e212e0f65.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/089f3295bde39656a0184f97d1a13714.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/7c642cf249feb3a59b9502273de0900d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/7c0d5fff3e304d514f283773bf6a4205.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/95aa47bebd327b1ac2883852f1abe79a.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 05:37:50 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 05:37:50 PM
And engine bay...no more wires to go in here (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/21f47afc789c115c15e45fa93b1fe733.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
Wow, super clean bay compared to what it was :)
Jon, dont worry I can sort out those holes when it comes home.
Jon, dont worry I can sort out those holes when it comes home.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
Post by: boosted on February 04, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
Ok mate yep engine bay is looking good...I'll say purposeful!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 04, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 04, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
Jon you have managed to disguise well the fact you have swapped out clive single turbo for your twins, so well in fact that the twins look like a single turbo lol
Engine bay looks great. I’d want too move that air filter into the flow of some direct cold air though if it is possible clive??
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Engine bay looks great. I’d want too move that air filter into the flow of some direct cold air though if it is possible clive??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
Clive, another question..
When you put the coil feed power from the battery cut off switch to the coils...did you add this in addition to engine loom feed or disconnect engine loom feed...it's joined in the aem loom which I haven't touched ...the coils should be cut from the engine loom feed as if you needed to use battery cut off switch this is to kill engine as may run on...also it's a direct feed...there's no fuse on it at all which it will now have i will put it on a 30amp maxi.
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When you put the coil feed power from the battery cut off switch to the coils...did you add this in addition to engine loom feed or disconnect engine loom feed...it's joined in the aem loom which I haven't touched ...the coils should be cut from the engine loom feed as if you needed to use battery cut off switch this is to kill engine as may run on...also it's a direct feed...there's no fuse on it at all which it will now have i will put it on a 30amp maxi.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
It's ok Clive...I went out and continuity tested between the coil feed and 2 engine feeds no continuity so all good...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 04:32:11 PM
Post by: boosted on February 05, 2018, 04:32:11 PM
,,,,there was however another wire on the race cut off switch that fried my brain,,, what where,,,why ehhhhgghhh!...think i sussed it old feed to engine fuse....that does coil feed among other things that it now does nothing as removed...but it went to the engine loom power plug and didnt come out other side .... :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 05, 2018, 06:00:15 PM
Post by: clive on February 05, 2018, 06:00:15 PM
Sorry I wasn't around to help, but you have sussed it anyway, well done :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 06, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 06, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
More good work Jon so much simpler than before :sign0098:. Makes any fault finding easier. :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2018, 03:30:10 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2018, 03:30:10 PM
Thanks mate, tomoz depending on how I feel and when I get up from nights tackling the additional wiring for switches n relays...goona start again me thinks just easier...gonna use a 12 core yy 0.75 cable all numbered so can be neat n tidy. 1 for switch feed.12 v .each switch signal 2 3 4 5 etc and go from there...signals into one fuse box and make use of redundant fuses and relays...these will be relabelled.
Still not finalised on resting place for pcm and fuse box passenger floor probably.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
Post by: boosted on February 06, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
I just worked out why the rear lights didn't match the drawings...what a dum dumb...there R3 rear lights...blindingly obvious when you look at them...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180206/bdd28b9cffa78cedc1cb9429490eef20.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 06, 2018, 07:38:57 PM
Post by: clive on February 06, 2018, 07:38:57 PM
Whoops ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2018, 01:48:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2018, 01:48:42 PM
Question is though, how much hp have you added too Clive’s car now? Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
We've improved bhp per tonne...that's all I know...I can weigh what been taking out at end. Kept 3 piles of waste...2 from car a 1 not car related...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
Pain in the arse sporadic days offs working Fri Sat sun..just got 1 full day tomoz...need to start and finish all in 1 go this phase.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2018, 02:04:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2018, 02:04:01 PM
With the rewriting and use of larger size cables and better earthing I would hope the ignition will have crisped up a bit, few extra volts in the spark
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
Lol it ain't running yet...happy when running and throttle works...Clive will have to test it carefully and check for limp mode etc as can't test for that here...we can scan test and make sure no naughty codes in there. There will be loads i had 10 in Westy that come on due to the missing sub systems b4 I got them turned off on Mazda edit. I was gonna suggest to Clive a rolling road session to check it b4 an expensive race day.....or at least some road testing on trade plates. Quietly confident but not arrogant...we all make mistakes so triple checking everything don't wanna smoke a £1k ecu...the standalone adaptronic would be easy in comparison but we work with what we've got and Clives got a lovely tune in it the exhaust tailpipe shows that.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
If I had any more hols I'd take I wanna crack on...i ain't starting anything today just finished nights so start again tomoz. Been looking for a nice box for the fuse box..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 07, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 07, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
These maybe an option Jon, waterproof and with fastenings at the corners but easy to access.
Waterproof enclosures IP56 manufactured by Gewiss about halfway down the page.
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Boxes_Adaptable_Moulded/index.html (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Boxes_Adaptable_Moulded/index.html)
Waterproof enclosures IP56 manufactured by Gewiss about halfway down the page.
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Boxes_Adaptable_Moulded/index.html (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Boxes_Adaptable_Moulded/index.html)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 04:50:53 PM
Post by: boosted on February 07, 2018, 04:50:53 PM
Yep I'll pop down elect wholesalers with fuse box and see what they got...the 1 I got is not deep enough..only got gert big and little 1s at work...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 03:14:54 PM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 03:14:54 PM
Few piccys...brain scrambled again...it's 'll gone forever.....kill switch getting a rewire...
Ewp current rating Clive...?
Fair few plugs hanging...from EDFC ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/f68cf892eb493c62a4c7502ab341b9fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/1afe7c2e92b6105b48cf60f166b35bae.jpg)
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Ewp current rating Clive...?
Fair few plugs hanging...from EDFC ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/f68cf892eb493c62a4c7502ab341b9fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/1afe7c2e92b6105b48cf60f166b35bae.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Ok so little update...all the wires left are the 1s that are staying...dash panel reorganised...all switches in and recycled starter panel...7 switches in total. Up in on like ignition...ready to start wiring up me thinks.
6 switches feeding redundant circuits in fuse box. 1 will be additional 30amp 044. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/bc33dfdaa1cc78805d86a7d25192dc80.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/970c45c25a596008ba76558b3596c000.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/469925f51c25d47cf9ed2a54d3ad15fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/3327d4bea0e3fa2f51fd151300b6cab8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/e4c4a3ae81d80531e7fd98185333e9e5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/aea49daf1007bb45deb8117a3afec5bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/a12d8e50af48c29820b9521131bfb666.jpg)
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6 switches feeding redundant circuits in fuse box. 1 will be additional 30amp 044. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/bc33dfdaa1cc78805d86a7d25192dc80.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/970c45c25a596008ba76558b3596c000.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/469925f51c25d47cf9ed2a54d3ad15fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/3327d4bea0e3fa2f51fd151300b6cab8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/e4c4a3ae81d80531e7fd98185333e9e5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/aea49daf1007bb45deb8117a3afec5bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/a12d8e50af48c29820b9521131bfb666.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 08, 2018, 07:29:38 PM
Post by: clive on February 08, 2018, 07:29:38 PM
Jon, your a brave brave man, WOW 8)
Does this help with the EWP.
Operating voltage 3V DC to 15V DC Voltage range 12V DC to 29V DC
Maximum current 10A @ 13V
Does this help with the EWP.
Operating voltage 3V DC to 15V DC Voltage range 12V DC to 29V DC
Maximum current 10A @ 13V
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Post by: boosted on February 08, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
Cheers Clive soz I missed your call...10 amp sweet.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2018, 04:03:39 AM
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2018, 04:03:39 AM
Thats a LOT of weight loss... ??? Jon, you should check how much that wire pile weights! I´m quessing +25kg...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 05:06:21 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 05:06:21 AM
Gonna be weighed at end think your right circa 25kg.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 07:25:44 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 07:25:44 AM
Can you remember where you got that battery light? Had a Google...be interested to read about it.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 09, 2018, 08:05:29 AM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2018, 08:05:29 AM
Sorry Jon, too long ago to remember.
I've got the feeling this is probably something my mate Steve had laying around.
I've got the feeling this is probably something my mate Steve had laying around.
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Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 08:08:43 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 08:08:43 AM
Ok no worries
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on February 09, 2018, 08:50:42 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on February 09, 2018, 08:50:42 AM
Battery warning lamp https://www.durite.co.uk/s/c/switches-and-indicators/warning-lights/warning-light-supplied-without-9mm-ba9s-bulb-53757
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Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 08:58:29 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 08:58:29 AM
That looks very much like it...however the 1 fitted on Clives car has 3 terminals 2 red and 1 black...
Black neutral.
1 red direct from alternator.
Other red came from ignition relay output...so it looks be clever some sort of voltage regulator in it.
Comes on with Ignition and off when running...so 2nd red switches off when charging or vice versa...I know how to wire it up I just wanted to read up on it for my knowledge...and or get 1 for Westy as I don't have 1 on the Westy..Good googling thanks I didn't find that...
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Black neutral.
1 red direct from alternator.
Other red came from ignition relay output...so it looks be clever some sort of voltage regulator in it.
Comes on with Ignition and off when running...so 2nd red switches off when charging or vice versa...I know how to wire it up I just wanted to read up on it for my knowledge...and or get 1 for Westy as I don't have 1 on the Westy..Good googling thanks I didn't find that...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 09, 2018, 10:52:54 AM
Post by: clive on February 09, 2018, 10:52:54 AM
Jon sorry just remembered the altonator was from Powerlite and then Brise updated it
Brise were the ones who explained that you must have the bulb in the circuit so the regulator kicks in when it sees load
Hope this helps
Brise were the ones who explained that you must have the bulb in the circuit so the regulator kicks in when it sees load
Hope this helps
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Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 10:54:51 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2018, 10:54:51 AM
Yep mate..I did a bit of reading up...light wire with load and sense wire when running...but it's going as wired just checking..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2018, 02:12:43 PM
Post by: boosted on February 10, 2018, 02:12:43 PM
Wrong place here for reference for da future..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/bcf6f761de1038959aa1e4e86b8c6925.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:09:33 PM
Well I contact HR and I have 1 day and 5.5 hrs off...so took today off...anyway wire in Clive a new courtesy light...lol won't pull any crimps off ...earth cable used as a tether.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/6cb27333817584a8642d300b5354c2ea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/72a287577b5c6d694ccbaf528996e57c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/e9190cf2c03e86538fc31497021271fa.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:10:35 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:10:35 PM
Bloody phone..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/06fe939cbef158ff0590356df3585006.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
Battery light confusing moi again.
.Kev was right it is the 1 linked but has a plug with 2 red wires and 1 black wire but no physical neutral connection...need to see if there's fitting instructions later...1 wire goes to alternator ...black wire was used for neutral on illuminated switches and still is...unsure if getting earth through bulkhead fitting off both illuminated switches and switch itself..currently Got a red wire not sure where to stick it...it was 12v. Or alternator is neutral switching it...Raaaa. so turns off when outputting...I don't bloomin know...
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.Kev was right it is the 1 linked but has a plug with 2 red wires and 1 black wire but no physical neutral connection...need to see if there's fitting instructions later...1 wire goes to alternator ...black wire was used for neutral on illuminated switches and still is...unsure if getting earth through bulkhead fitting off both illuminated switches and switch itself..currently Got a red wire not sure where to stick it...it was 12v. Or alternator is neutral switching it...Raaaa. so turns off when outputting...I don't bloomin know...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Nope it's just a dum light...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 11, 2018, 04:14:25 PM
Post by: clive on February 11, 2018, 04:14:25 PM
Hi Jon,
This was the 902 then up rated by brise
I see you had a bit of the picture, not sure if you saw the plug part. Hoping this will help.
This was the 902 then up rated by brise
I see you had a bit of the picture, not sure if you saw the plug part. Hoping this will help.
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Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
I'm sure now the yellow is the 12v for the light...and this joins to the bulb...as found...on a red wire then the other red has to neutral although I was convinced cam off a 12v feed...I'm gonna put it as a neutral...I'm assuming alternator switches off 12v for the light so it will go out when running...the other wire goes on ignition relay tells to turn on when ignition switch on...car running light goes out to confirm outputting....I gonna wire as above...the plug confused the hell out of me...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
This bugger.. 2 refs to Batt light(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/ea3095f66cc2d4c429407d5f002c7066.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 07:18:35 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 07:18:35 PM
Leaving the red neutral off...dab it down to earth when ignition on with an inline fuse.
Anyways...ready for the final pcm fuse box wire tomoz no more checking. Being playing about with/ without box, positions etc etc..but final place as shown..no box.
Took out side bars of rollcage to allow more access...tomoz the big day...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/efa923e1d72dac5d75436d280b73e5cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/34f5c891a0889ec60926fa1e563c1d7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/f55a0a3bfac963f36e07e60146704edb.jpg)
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Anyways...ready for the final pcm fuse box wire tomoz no more checking. Being playing about with/ without box, positions etc etc..but final place as shown..no box.
Took out side bars of rollcage to allow more access...tomoz the big day...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/efa923e1d72dac5d75436d280b73e5cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/34f5c891a0889ec60926fa1e563c1d7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/f55a0a3bfac963f36e07e60146704edb.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 11, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Post by: clive on February 11, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Hi Jon,
Wow soooooooooo much work, no way I would have got into it that far.
Real puzzled about the altonator wiring, I thought we only had the one big power feed and then just two little terminals on the plug ??
Wow soooooooooo much work, no way I would have got into it that far.
Real puzzled about the altonator wiring, I thought we only had the one big power feed and then just two little terminals on the plug ??
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Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
Post by: boosted on February 11, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
Yes mate sussed it.
1 big power feed... x2 signals..which is
1 to Batt light
1 to switch ignition so the alternator excitor.
It's the battery warning light that's confused me but I can test b4 firing...the red wire has to be neutral...the plug must just be something that your mate used...I've traced it all through logic says it's neutral.
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1 big power feed... x2 signals..which is
1 to Batt light
1 to switch ignition so the alternator excitor.
It's the battery warning light that's confused me but I can test b4 firing...the red wire has to be neutral...the plug must just be something that your mate used...I've traced it all through logic says it's neutral.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on February 12, 2018, 05:24:53 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on February 12, 2018, 05:24:53 AM
Alt warning lamp normally just has 2 lives and no negative to in Jon, one from the battery (ign switched) and one from the Alt output. It then works on a voltage differential if the alternator isn't outputting it earths through that, if working fine the two positive feeds cancel each other and extinguishes the warning lamp.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
Cheers Kev that was the other way I was thinking but couldn't describe it. Lights when there's a potential difference across the bulb filament. Goes out when voltage the same...
Think I'll ring Powerlite hopefully they'll confirm. Thanks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:04:59 AM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:04:59 AM
Just spoke to Powerlite...possibly the tea boy mind lol....he said its just a feed that switches off when alternator running but could not confirm whether i should provide the other side of the bulb with a neutral or 12v as i confused him talking about potential difference...but if it switches off rather that on then then light would come on when running...so inline fuse it is....so when ignition on not running theres 12 V on the yellow wire its neutral on otherside of lamp, if there is 0V then its 12V feed to otherside and when running 12v comes on and 12v on both sides of lamp cancel each other out no potential difference light goes out..not a prob. :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 12, 2018, 09:15:07 AM
Post by: clive on February 12, 2018, 09:15:07 AM
Jon, many thanks for phoning them.
If you feel the need to talk to them again, ask for Julian, tell him your ringing because of me and is there any chance of talking to Jason out on the shop floor.
If you feel the need to talk to them again, ask for Julian, tell him your ringing because of me and is there any chance of talking to Jason out on the shop floor.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:21:21 AM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:21:21 AM
Cheers Clive, I should've checked a bit more b4 removing it...I can do my checks when ignition first goes on...
I can't get it in the box I showed you just 2 bulky..to stick under dash. So using the original fuse box....poss cover later on with a battery box like you have fitted?
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I can't get it in the box I showed you just 2 bulky..to stick under dash. So using the original fuse box....poss cover later on with a battery box like you have fitted?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:23:14 AM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 09:23:14 AM
Keeping the engine looms separate so if the engine needs to be pulled can be pulled out with engine..like you had b4..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
Going well...just come in for warm up...keep your fingers x guys and somebody bite there finger nails so I can stop biting mine ha ha...
Maf and baro, accelerator and clutch switch. done. Can bus done.
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Maf and baro, accelerator and clutch switch. done. Can bus done.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
Have had spag bog for awhile(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/8e3b152adbe943bf1157f3c919ce15a2.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 03:22:04 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 03:22:04 PM
Head proper mush...circuit by circuit getting there...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 03:45:09 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 03:45:09 PM
All pcm connections done. Left over cables reconciled against drawings...POWAHHHHHH circuits now.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
Mad dash for red bullet crimps.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 06:04:10 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 06:04:10 PM
Gonna be a late 1 me thinks...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
Gonna be touch n go tonight...Gonna quit at 8.30...nearly there...just concerned cables too long...been on my knees all day...boo hoo.. man up...!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 07:32:41 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 07:32:41 PM
Boosted.....fuelled by coffee and Granola bars...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:23:05 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:23:05 PM
That's it beaten for today...wires all beginning to look the same...anyways few piccys...not the finish article...work in progress....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/6c4e3b20342621169f64b12933de961e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/d7e89f894435154e71b28358c9dc52f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/98be79e4fb43d34870fc8efaf9bcdde5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/4ec346d90b244bb5cce18666a14f896d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180212/89b2bff699fb558f9089f98deb6b26d1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:54:22 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2018, 08:54:22 PM
with whats left todo i reckon about 1pm ish tomoz for start up...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2018, 07:40:57 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2018, 07:40:57 PM
About 4 pm yesterday...fired up 2nd go..immobiliser module plug not pushed fully home...
Can't work out how to link YouTube vid with my new phone....
So my YouTube channel is Boosted38...vids there...someone do a linky pls.
Done some tidying today...labelling etc...but back on nights so aim to finish Sat and Clive pick up Sunday...
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Can't work out how to link YouTube vid with my new phone....
So my YouTube channel is Boosted38...vids there...someone do a linky pls.
Done some tidying today...labelling etc...but back on nights so aim to finish Sat and Clive pick up Sunday...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
Would've look neater in box but rollcage in way and box I had not enough depth...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180214/9662807772c62e383bb74bbebbcd3d87.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 06:24:20 AM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 06:24:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RFpm_Xai60&t=3s
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 15, 2018, 07:00:55 AM
Post by: re japi on February 15, 2018, 07:00:55 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 15, 2018, 06:24:20 AMWell done Jon, good job!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RFpm_Xai60&t=3s
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 02:25:17 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 02:25:17 PM
Cheers Jarno. About a day left... got to pull a 2 core cable in for left fuel sender doesn't work on just the right 1. Gotta get hot enough to confirm fans working..have not heard them cut in yet at 84deg C. Little alternator runs the battery down on idle so need to use a brick or summit to raise idle to keep it running my jumper battery is weak...confirm these fans kick in...
Code read all good now...learnt some stuff about the immobiliser.......
Trim etc needs to go back on..quick connection check underneath...few cable ties here and there and good tidy up and weigh the removed wiring.
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Code read all good now...learnt some stuff about the immobiliser.......
Trim etc needs to go back on..quick connection check underneath...few cable ties here and there and good tidy up and weigh the removed wiring.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2018, 03:05:33 PM
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2018, 03:05:33 PM
Well done Jon, looks like you are on the final stretch now. Looks like a great job you've done there :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 03:12:38 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 03:12:38 PM
Lol...big job..few sleepiness nights...nearly as challenging as the 1962 series 2 land rover with positive earth I did years ago...I'll be happy when the fans kick in and Clives given it shakedown..
Weigh in tomoz....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 15, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 15, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
:sign0098: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Cheers mate :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2018, 08:39:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2018, 08:39:15 PM
Jon, does the canbus system get effected by a change in length of cable or is it not that sufficsticated?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
Seems fine mate...Seems quite robust. Ecu is talking to immobiliser module and dash...rpm is 1 thing transferred to dash via can bus.
Obd port works again canbus.
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Obd port works again canbus.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2018, 09:05:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2018, 09:05:48 PM
I meant to ask that question days ago but never pressed send
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
Clives car defo a 1off Rew powered rx8 with fly by wire throttle. No driver aids now all in the bin.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 16, 2018, 08:15:17 AM
Post by: clive on February 16, 2018, 08:15:17 AM
Morning Jon,
Reference the fans, whist I have seen the fans work on track as I see the water temp rise and fall, I'm sure that no matter how long I have run the car stationary I've never heard the fans cut in.
Reference the fans, whist I have seen the fans work on track as I see the water temp rise and fall, I'm sure that no matter how long I have run the car stationary I've never heard the fans cut in.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 08:45:49 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 08:45:49 AM
The easiest way to check is within the adaptronic software Jon, the Aux outs have a check button where you can invert the output signals for testing purposes.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 16, 2018, 09:09:56 AM
Post by: clive on February 16, 2018, 09:09:56 AM
Thanks Kev, it would be nice to know they are actually going to work before hitting the track again :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 10:21:36 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 10:21:36 AM
I'm not sure which version of the software your using so
Eugene here's a screenshot https://www.screencast.com/t/8P8xtBGfT
Wari version of the software here https://www.screencast.com/t/ngpCYlJNLbgo
Eugene here's a screenshot https://www.screencast.com/t/8P8xtBGfT
Wari version of the software here https://www.screencast.com/t/ngpCYlJNLbgo
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
I was thinking the same as with the 044 and water pump doubt I'd hear them cut in and with the splitter and undertray was thinking crawling underneath to check for airflow.
They are wired directly as drawings....later I'll be putting 2 core cable in for 2nd sender and then running up if plenty of fuel...
If you bring the laptop Sunday we can check again.
Kev you were right about battery light...the rogue wire was indeed a live.
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They are wired directly as drawings....later I'll be putting 2 core cable in for 2nd sender and then running up if plenty of fuel...
If you bring the laptop Sunday we can check again.
Kev you were right about battery light...the rogue wire was indeed a live.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 11:02:12 AM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 11:02:12 AM
If you came early Sunday Clive we can remove the front Clip and check?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on February 16, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
You can run any of the aux outputs the same Jon, software's free to download http://www.adaptronic.com.au/downloadpage/ and a standard micro usb phone type connection on the ecu.
Wari is the old (smaller) software package Eugene the latest version either will do what you want................ I've never needed it but to be on the safe side I always save a dated copy of the current settings whenever plugging in just in case of a computer crash.
Wari is the old (smaller) software package Eugene the latest version either will do what you want................ I've never needed it but to be on the safe side I always save a dated copy of the current settings whenever plugging in just in case of a computer crash.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
Cool think I'll have a play later.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Green white not white green....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/e46e775d0ec6c80a7d0737d165dd6e0d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 16, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Post by: Casey on February 16, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: clive on February 16, 2018, 08:15:17 AM
Morning Jon,
Reference the fans, whist I have seen the fans work on track as I see the water temp rise and fall, I'm sure that no matter how long I have run the car stationary I've never heard the fans cut in.
:icon_scratch: That's odd, my understanding on a stock RX-8 is that the fans won't operate if the car is doing more than about 15mph? They certainly should cut in when stationary else the engine would overheat in a traffic jam. I often hear my fans cut in when stuck in traffic.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 02:19:40 PM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 02:19:40 PM
I can't get it any hotter than 83deg C on scan tool...so rad and esp are very efficient...must admit my FD runs on track at 84 with a koyo...so looks like rew engine much better than renny regards heat....my Westy gets hot very quickly...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 03:21:21 PM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 03:21:21 PM
Ok guess the weight game...combined weight of both these scrap piles...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/92312d4235e53ba50e46ae58a609a3d2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/a9ff8b87f2401683a3b27a900dcc734e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 16, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 16, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
28 kg
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 04:02:39 PM
Post by: boosted on February 16, 2018, 04:02:39 PM
We're done. Clive putting trim on so I can show him what has been...tidying up and putting tools away...
I reckon 30 kg...weigh in in abit...
Roll up roll up...guess the weight....
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I reckon 30 kg...weigh in in abit...
Roll up roll up...guess the weight....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 16, 2018, 08:26:33 PM
Post by: Casey on February 16, 2018, 08:26:33 PM
24kg :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 04:39:48 AM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 04:39:48 AM
Damn, that really is a lot! ??? Hmm, I reckon is +30kg. So I have to say 33kg... Did I won? 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
It's the last job...about to do in a mo...I ermm...have lost Clives steering wheel nut...so had a tidy up looking for it...alas no sign of it...
But I've just finished the drawings..
So 99.9% there.
Car will come with the Vosa verified, rac approved. EU regulated cast iron 5 minute no quibble guarantee lol...should be fine I'll be happy when driven hard. Current ratings are good connections all tested...hopefully as reliable as the loom in my Westy . Needed to do drawings as 2 weeks I'd have forgot. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/3d118e27771eaba3cb24205c9f72f2f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/f8306d57c5a66b69e84274da86415672.jpg)
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But I've just finished the drawings..
So 99.9% there.
Car will come with the Vosa verified, rac approved. EU regulated cast iron 5 minute no quibble guarantee lol...should be fine I'll be happy when driven hard. Current ratings are good connections all tested...hopefully as reliable as the loom in my Westy . Needed to do drawings as 2 weeks I'd have forgot. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/3d118e27771eaba3cb24205c9f72f2f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/f8306d57c5a66b69e84274da86415672.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
Any last minute punters for the guess the weight competition....don't be shy give it a try....doing now....results in 20 mins....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 17, 2018, 02:34:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 17, 2018, 02:34:51 PM
Lost steering wheel nut = more weight reduction
Win win
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:55:29 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:55:29 PM
And the number is 23.6 kg(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/f08afb8b234221f636aead8c9a6a6637.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 03:01:49 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 03:01:49 PM
I wonder if Clive notices...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/16944de28d24fdb5bcf41b4eba548850.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 03:20:09 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 03:20:09 PM
So Casey's the chicken dinner winner winner...
What do you win....hmmmm how about 23.6 kg of redundant wiring...lol..
So when you think this was an already stripped down race car with Bose system elect winds etc if you start from road spec to race spec poss I reckon 100kg easy...
Clive removed the abs unit so that is not included in this total....basically just wiring switches connection blocks and a few modules.
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What do you win....hmmmm how about 23.6 kg of redundant wiring...lol..
So when you think this was an already stripped down race car with Bose system elect winds etc if you start from road spec to race spec poss I reckon 100kg easy...
Clive removed the abs unit so that is not included in this total....basically just wiring switches connection blocks and a few modules.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 17, 2018, 04:30:01 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 17, 2018, 04:30:01 PM
I admire your methodical approach Jon and with comprehensive drawings to boot :notworthy:. Also your patience. :13:
The first I have in spadefuls, the latter not so much :violent1:.
The first I have in spadefuls, the latter not so much :violent1:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 07:16:25 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 07:16:25 PM
Cheers mate...I'm pretty patient 1 circuit at a time....made a few mistake well 3 to be precise lol...shift work helps...clear days midweek no distractions...
Clives picked her up...so garage empty now...ironic but the mx5 refused to start stored on Clives trailer...rotary yes mx5 no...job for tomoz lol. No idea where the steering nut went...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/67e01f6f2ef962acad958e42160745bc.jpg)
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Clives picked her up...so garage empty now...ironic but the mx5 refused to start stored on Clives trailer...rotary yes mx5 no...job for tomoz lol. No idea where the steering nut went...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/67e01f6f2ef962acad958e42160745bc.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:07:49 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 02:55:29 PMCrap, I was 10kg off... Anyways, that a lot still...
And the number is 23.6 kg(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180217/f08afb8b234221f636aead8c9a6a6637.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 07:16:25 PM
Cheers mate...I'm pretty patient 1 circuit at a time....made a few mistake well 3 to be precise lol...shift work helps...clear days midweek no distractions...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
It's a 1/4 of me...lol.
Not just about weight saving...simplified for reliability....and God forbid if car ever needs reshelling unplug and pull out and refit...
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Not just about weight saving...simplified for reliability....and God forbid if car ever needs reshelling unplug and pull out and refit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:12:51 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:12:51 PM
You know, I really really really want to see how much 8 can lose weight easily. I really believe that it can be done to 1100kg easy... Howerer, thats alot still. It needs do be around or under 1000kg. And after that roll cage, corner weights and so on, to be really compatible...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:12:50 PMBut did you take her for a spin before Clive took it?
It's a 1/4 of me...lol.
Not just about weight saving...simplified for reliability....and God forbid if car ever needs reshelling unplug and pull out and refit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:16:20 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:16:20 PM
Prob offset by weight of cage....but so much road car junk ...you should try a rx8 powered mx5...that seems to be just the right weight loss.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:19:42 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:16:20 PMTrue. Roll cage is about 80-100 kg I reckon...
Prob offset by weight of cage....but so much road car junk ...you should try a rx8 powered mx5...that seems to be just the right weight loss.
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Well, I should get any rotary... Started to miss that sound really...
And seems like Im not able to come to UK this year...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:24:20 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:24:20 PM
I think an 8 rallycross pumped up on big suspension would be perfect for you..
Why no UK trip? Funds low?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:24:20 PMI reckon that quite stock 8 can be compatible in our lower seriesses. But in National Championship, it needs really heavy mods. Better engine, fibreclass everywhere. Swedes and Norwegians has lots of 8 in rallycross. But I really do believe that it is really good car for basic dirt kicking...
I think an 8 rallycross pumped up on big suspension would be perfect for you..
Why no UK trip? Funds low?
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Yeah, really low. And it really pisses me off. I was really looking forward to explore South-East UK...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:58:13 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:58:13 PM
Shame mate on visit next year bud...you had wedding to pay for...not cheap...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 08:58:13 PMThat wedding was cheap. Im a cheap bastard
Shame mate on visit next year bud...you had wedding to pay for...not cheap...
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But moms death is really consuming my funds... but maybe I can purchase FD after we sell her apartment... just kidding...Anyhoo, its a real shame that we wont be able to UK this year. I was really looking forward it. And so was my daughter...
Difficult to explain to 9 year old that we just dont have money, even thou her friends parents has. She is a smart girl and I quess she understands... Btw, she says hello to Snowy :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 09:27:58 PM
Post by: boosted on February 17, 2018, 09:27:58 PM
He's getting fresh with the doorstop atmo...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2018, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 17, 2018, 09:27:58 PM
He's getting fresh with the doorstop atmo...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 18, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Post by: clive on February 18, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Cars back home now so Huge Thanks to Jon for all his work and patience plus achieving the weight loss, :bravo_2:
In with the loom weight we also have the ABS unit weight which I believe is another 4-5 kilo -----got to got to help :wee_hee:
In with the loom weight we also have the ABS unit weight which I believe is another 4-5 kilo -----got to got to help :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 18, 2018, 10:49:08 AM
Post by: boosted on February 18, 2018, 10:49:08 AM
My Pleasure...Westy back home...started straight up...now to have a look at the mx5 ...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 18, 2018, 12:25:59 PM
Post by: boosted on February 18, 2018, 12:25:59 PM
And now rest of the day I'm doing nothing. Lol mx5 95% sure crank angle sensor dead..no spark no fuel and no rpm reading on scan tool. Another day looking forward to an afternoon nap...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 18, 2018, 12:56:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 18, 2018, 12:56:25 PM
Have you ever had the car weighed clive?
So what is next on the agenda for the off season prep?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 18, 2018, 12:56:25 PM
Have you ever had the car weighed clive?
So what is next on the agenda for the off season prep?
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Next up will be fitting the FD rear calipers,
New set of 9.5 Enkei wheels should be here next week which means I'm going to run with 265's all round which will help front end grip.
If I have the penny's available I will also be changing to the new Toyo 888R
Boot lit and rear wing changes will have to wait till I have time.
Going to need a track day run before the first race at Brands at the end of March to get the bias brake system set up and do a systems check .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 05:40:15 PM
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 05:40:15 PM
Tried several times to get it weighed at race meetings but couldn't get it done
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:18:54 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:18:54 PM
Keep me in the loop with the planned trackday date mate..if I'm not working I'll defo come to Brands just in case any issues. ..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 08:29:28 PM
Post by: clive on February 20, 2018, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:18:54 PM
Keep me in the loop with the planned trackday date mate..if I'm not working I'll defo come to Brands just in case any issues. ..
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I have a saying I've used for many years ;),
"A good volunteer is better than ten pressed men"
Thank you Jon , I will aim for the week after next :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:31:26 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:31:26 PM
Week of the 5th onwards?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
Post by: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
Thursday only day off that week...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Clive have you already got a brake bias valve? Iv got one in the shed I bought years ago never used, thinknits still in the packaging if you want it? Might be a wilwood one
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 21, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
Post by: clive on February 21, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Clive have you already got a brake bias valve? Iv got one in the shed I bought years ago never used, thinknits still in the packaging if you want it? Might be a wilwood one
Many thanks anyway, but I wont need this as I now have a full bias brake pedal box with adjustable front and rear master cylinders ,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 21, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
Post by: clive on February 21, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 20, 2018, 08:32:23 PM
Thursday only day off that week...
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What about the 12th or the 15th March
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 21, 2018, 08:04:54 AM
Post by: boosted on February 21, 2018, 08:04:54 AM
12th good for me 15th nights.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 25, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Post by: clive on February 25, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Sorry Jon, I've had to go with the 15th at Brands to check out all the changes :(
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Post by: boosted on February 25, 2018, 10:09:28 PM
Post by: boosted on February 25, 2018, 10:09:28 PM
Ok mate can't do as nights ... shame I'll have to cross me fingers lol just be nice to be there for shakedown.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2018, 02:18:34 PM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2018, 02:18:34 PM
Hi Clive, I'm seeing what I can do poss swap shifts with a colleague or summit...I really wanna be there just in case there is loose connection or summit...gonna be some much easier for me to find than you...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Post by: boosted on February 26, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUZmpWmxG4&t=77s
comical last vid i found...lol...maybe upside down.
Clive, when getting the cluster fuel gauge working not sure if i wrapped the cable and cable tied...soz if i didnt...got a bit excited on the start up...
in other news i found someone to swappy shifts with so should be with you on the 15th if management agree.....
comical last vid i found...lol...maybe upside down.
Clive, when getting the cluster fuel gauge working not sure if i wrapped the cable and cable tied...soz if i didnt...got a bit excited on the start up...
in other news i found someone to swappy shifts with so should be with you on the 15th if management agree.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 26, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Post by: Casey on February 26, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Have put 15th in diary - hope to pop down to Brands to help out :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 26, 2018, 07:23:58 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2018, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 26, 2018, 02:18:34 PM
Hi Clive, I'm seeing what I can do poss swap shifts with a colleague or summit...I really wanna be there just in case there is loose connection or summit...gonna be some much easier for me to find than you...
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Be great to see you there, but have faith young man :victory:, I'm sure it will be fine. I'm more worried about setting the brakes up.
At Brands in December messing around with the ABS fuse cost me a pair of tyres I bought quite recently that cost me getting on for £600!
This was after finding that if you pull the ABS fuse the rear brakes don't work, 125-130 into Padock I had only front brakes and flat spotted the front Yokohama's so bad they are now just bin fodder!
Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2018, 07:26:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2018, 07:26:01 PM
Don’t bin them!!! Flat spots, pfft just put them on the rears and burn those tyres off with some donuts make sure you record it too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 26, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: Casey on February 26, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Have put 15th in diary - hope to pop down to Brands to help out :13:
Excellent news, I need a good timing man to see if the changes have worked ;)
Timing, who said timing, I will now go and write 100 lines of /
Track days do not allow timing
Track days do not allow timing
Track days do not allow timing
Track days do not allow timing
Track days do not allow timing
Sorry bored already ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
Hi Clive...does not look like I'm able to join you on the 15th...can't get a workable solution for shift cover at work...
Prob best to do a returns label for the boost cable Monday so you defo got it.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 03, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Post by: clive on March 03, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
No worry's Jon,
If you would be kind enough to pop them in a box and give us the dimensions then let us know the day before you will be there for UPS to collect that would be great.
Weathers slowed things up at this end, sorted out the engine bay but haven't been able to get the car out to get it over to my mates workshop to get the brakes etc sorted. Should still have time to get every thing sorted though before the 15th .
If you would be kind enough to pop them in a box and give us the dimensions then let us know the day before you will be there for UPS to collect that would be great.
Weathers slowed things up at this end, sorted out the engine bay but haven't been able to get the car out to get it over to my mates workshop to get the brakes etc sorted. Should still have time to get every thing sorted though before the 15th .
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Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 02:49:41 PM
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 02:49:41 PM
Will do mate. Yes I'm supposed to be doing the 7 but ain't worth the risk moving it to garage on the semi slicks...
Have you been running it all Good?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 03, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
Post by: clive on March 03, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
Don't worry it still starts ;)
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Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
Post by: boosted on March 03, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
Cool, you remembered to check the IC piping I removed? Put it on your way? I'll be happy when you've done a track day.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 04, 2018, 10:26:49 AM
Post by: clive on March 04, 2018, 10:26:49 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 03, 2018, 06:26:37 PM
Cool, you remembered to check the IC piping I removed? Put it on your way? I'll be happy when you've done a track day.
Don't worry, done all that already :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: Casey on February 26, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Have put 15th in diary - hope to pop down to Brands to help out :13:
Sorry Clive, I have to go down to Dorset today for a few days :(
I hope you have a successful day :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2018, 09:25:25 PM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2018, 09:25:25 PM
No worrys Malcolm sorry you couldn't make it,
Ray is going to be Pit crew :bravo_2:
Spent the day geting 8 wheels and tyres fitted up on rims, proper BTCC wets for the morning and providing I have the brakes set up and the track drys out from all the forcasted rain, new 9.5 Enkei's with new R888R's to try out.
Ray is going to be Pit crew :bravo_2:
Spent the day geting 8 wheels and tyres fitted up on rims, proper BTCC wets for the morning and providing I have the brakes set up and the track drys out from all the forcasted rain, new 9.5 Enkei's with new R888R's to try out.
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Post by: boosted on March 15, 2018, 06:15:57 AM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2018, 06:15:57 AM
Good luck Clive, have a brill day!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 15, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Post by: clive on March 15, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Well it was a shake down for next week------------------------------------ Broke the gear box on the sighting lap :-[, but better this week than next Sunday, :great:
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Post by: Casey on March 15, 2018, 08:13:29 PM
Post by: Casey on March 15, 2018, 08:13:29 PM
??? ??? Noooooooooooooooooo! Christine fights back. Sorry you didn't get the opportunity for a proper shake down :(
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Post by: boosted on March 15, 2018, 08:16:03 PM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2018, 08:16:03 PM
Ref our chat about gearboxes....fd 5 speed? Grants got 1 !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2018, 06:10:22 AM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2018, 06:10:22 AM
Yep, she is fighting back... damn, no good luck at all...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 16, 2018, 08:16:14 AM
Post by: clive on March 16, 2018, 08:16:14 AM
Sat looking at UK gear ratios overnight and with 3 six speed gear-boxes dead in Christine's life I am going to fit an RX-8 5 Speed box tomorrow.
It has longer 1st and 2nd gears so may well improve the car off the start line.
It has longer 1st and 2nd gears so may well improve the car off the start line.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 16, 2018, 04:00:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 16, 2018, 04:00:16 PM
Feel bad for you clive, blooming chocolate gear boxes!
Where did it brake/break? Input shaft?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2018, 04:01:19 PM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2018, 04:01:19 PM
All i know is that he had 1st 2nd and reverse nothing else...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2018, 04:03:27 PM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2018, 04:03:27 PM
Do you know Grant what a fd box is good for bhp wise? Chris CJR put alot of pony through his....gotta be a threshold....somebody cant remember who told me 8 5 speed is same as fd box?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on March 17, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on March 17, 2018, 07:37:40 AM
The box casing twists stop that and it'll take 500 or so at the wheels in a heavier car than the 8. Crank it up much above that though and things can get a bit exciting depending where the shrapnel goes.
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Post by: boosted on March 17, 2018, 07:48:32 AM
Post by: boosted on March 17, 2018, 07:48:32 AM
Thanks...ive only ever had gearboxes get noisy/ or synchro issues never a total failure. I see on youtube that Rob Dahm fella snapping input and output shafts launching...which is understandable.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 17, 2018, 07:56:55 AM
Post by: clive on March 17, 2018, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 16, 2018, 04:01:19 PM
All i know is that he had 1st 2nd and reverse nothing else...
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No drive in 3rd and 4th, horrible crunching sound as I applied power then no drive, last time two times, exactly the same happened but with 4th gear :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 17, 2018, 07:59:30 AM
Post by: boosted on March 17, 2018, 07:59:30 AM
Too much power mate ! Silver cloud...5 speed boxes plentiful and cheap...change annually in winter?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 12:42:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 12:42:24 PM
Something I learnt off Kev ages ago and through looking on the rx7club forum about strengthening the gear box by insert a steel plate under the access panel on the gear box. Iv got a 1/4 mild steel plate on the gear box I have, it is also over sized so I could use it as extra mounting points too bolt the gear boxin more places too the chassis, it’s extra added weight but not even 10kg at worst, being a race car I wasn’t worried about any noise transference into the car.
FD gear boxes are rather expensive now because of the redonkulous FD prices. The rx8s are cheaper and clive wouldn’t need to get his drive shaft length changed as and rx8 gear box is shorter than an FD gear box?
A lot of people talk about using the turbo 2 gear box but the way I see it is that is older than an FD gear box so most likely been abused more maybe?
I don’t think clive could change too an FD gear box as he would have too change the clutch type from pull too a push type? Rx8s clutch is the opposite too and FD isn’t it?
I remember a guy on rx7club making a prototype gearbox sumo brace/strengthener for FD gear boxes, iirc he made it about 3/4-1†thick which added a huge amount of volume inside the gear box too hold more gear box oil, don’t know if that would benefit a gear box at all but I suppose you can’t go wrong with too much lube can you??
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FD gear boxes are rather expensive now because of the redonkulous FD prices. The rx8s are cheaper and clive wouldn’t need to get his drive shaft length changed as and rx8 gear box is shorter than an FD gear box?
A lot of people talk about using the turbo 2 gear box but the way I see it is that is older than an FD gear box so most likely been abused more maybe?
I don’t think clive could change too an FD gear box as he would have too change the clutch type from pull too a push type? Rx8s clutch is the opposite too and FD isn’t it?
I remember a guy on rx7club making a prototype gearbox sumo brace/strengthener for FD gear boxes, iirc he made it about 3/4-1†thick which added a huge amount of volume inside the gear box too hold more gear box oil, don’t know if that would benefit a gear box at all but I suppose you can’t go wrong with too much lube can you??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 17, 2018, 01:44:18 PM
Post by: re japi on March 17, 2018, 01:44:18 PM
Well, I would choose 8s 5speed too. Its basically the same that FD has. And lots cheaper. So no point choosing FDs or T2 box...
Also, my opinion is that 8s 5speed, compared to those other 5speeds, has best 1 and 2 gear rations for racing...
What I have seen and heard, 6 speeds main axle is weak because "that extra gear". Dunno how to explain it in english... :)
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Also, my opinion is that 8s 5speed, compared to those other 5speeds, has best 1 and 2 gear rations for racing...
What I have seen and heard, 6 speeds main axle is weak because "that extra gear". Dunno how to explain it in english... :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:49:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:49:11 PM
https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-product-dev-fd-rx-7-269/bubble-tech-transmission-spacer-1070094/
Found it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:50:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:50:02 PM
Found this also
https://www.rhdjapan.com/attain-extra-large-transmission-oil-pan-fd3s-fc3s.html
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https://www.rhdjapan.com/attain-extra-large-transmission-oil-pan-fd3s-fc3s.html
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
I would personally just buy piece of steel roughly the right size for cheaper from your local metal stock shop or eBay and cut it and drill out yourself. Took me an hour or so to make mine up, think I used a grinder to cut most of it out then a jigsaw to neaten bits up. I drill the holes for the bolts over sized just to make it easier to fit.
Longer screws are only a few quidz
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 17, 2018, 09:02:04 PM
Post by: clive on March 17, 2018, 09:02:04 PM
Rx8 5 Speed now installed :great:
RX-8 5 speed:
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.806
RX7 FD
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.719
As you will see above the RX-8 Box has a higher ratio 5th giving a bigger gap between 4th and 5th but hopefully this wont be too much of an issue on track
Apparently the FD box fits when using the RX-8 5 bell housing which is a straight swap, one problem is the gear leaver sits further back, the power plant frame has to be chopped about plus a new prop has to be made, my old mate Glenn wants his FD close ratio box fitted in his recently bought track day RX-8 so we had already started looking at this.
Another plus side to swapping out the six speed is that I now have a lighter box in the car ;)
RX-8 5 speed:
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.806
RX7 FD
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.719
As you will see above the RX-8 Box has a higher ratio 5th giving a bigger gap between 4th and 5th but hopefully this wont be too much of an issue on track
Apparently the FD box fits when using the RX-8 5 bell housing which is a straight swap, one problem is the gear leaver sits further back, the power plant frame has to be chopped about plus a new prop has to be made, my old mate Glenn wants his FD close ratio box fitted in his recently bought track day RX-8 so we had already started looking at this.
Another plus side to swapping out the six speed is that I now have a lighter box in the car ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 17, 2018, 09:12:21 PM
Post by: re japi on March 17, 2018, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: clive on March 17, 2018, 09:02:04 PMWith that 5 gear ration, I dont think you have a problem, you have so much grunt...
Rx8 5 Speed now installed :great:
RX-8 5 speed:
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.806
RX7 FD
1st: 3.483
2nd: 2.015
3rd: 1.391
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.719
As you will see above the RX-8 Box has a higher ratio 5th giving a bigger gap between 4th and 5th but hopefully this wont be too much of an issue on track
Apparently the FD box fits when using the RX-8 5 bell housing which is a straight swap, one problem is the gear leaver sits further back, the power plant frame has to be chopped about plus a new prop has to be made, my old mate Glenn wants his FD close ratio box fitted in his recently bought track day RX-8 so we had already started looking at this.
Another plus side to swapping out the six speed is that I now have a lighter box in the car ;)
Umm, do you need 8s starter also? I remembered that they have some differences. Or spacer... I think we talked with Aston about that, when we investigated options for bros car...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2018, 06:01:35 AM
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2018, 06:01:35 AM
Also, other problem is that PPF. Im not sure what needs to be done if you want to some how use it, original cant be used that for sure I reckon. But how about custom made, like bros car has...?
I was goint to suggest that steel plate, but saw that Grant already suggested that. Its really good and cheap option. Also, another option is to make steel bands around box that holds gearbox warping. My friend used those in Volvo gearboxes, not pretty but they work...
A bit of topic but I think that one Finnish company now makes straight cut teeth dogboxes for FD now...
I was goint to suggest that steel plate, but saw that Grant already suggested that. Its really good and cheap option. Also, another option is to make steel bands around box that holds gearbox warping. My friend used those in Volvo gearboxes, not pretty but they work...
A bit of topic but I think that one Finnish company now makes straight cut teeth dogboxes for FD now...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 08:46:59 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 08:46:59 AM
With regards too the ppf, I know of one person that we don’t mention on here any more built an FD many years ago, a wide body camouflage paint track car,
That didn’t bother using a ppf as they tied the gear box and the diff into the roll cage of the car and the chassis of the car. This FD was said to be around 950kg
Obviously it’s a lot of work to do but just saying it can be done.
Is the ppf essentially there too tie the driveline together? From
Front too rear.
So wouldthere be a lot of flex allowed from the engine all the way too the rear wheels?
I did a little bit of searching last night night and a common problem with FD gear boxes, so I would guess this applies too rx8 boxes, is third gear, whether it is causing broken shafts, synchros are even the gear itself. Mostly linked too the twisting/flex. So I would see it as the engine is starting to make a lot of load and then shifting from 2 to 3 at 8,000? Causes the damage?
With the gearing in third getting closer too 1-1 there’s a lot of “torque†( yes torque on a rotary
) being loaded through that box isn’t there. Lots of twisting with all the drive line.
Stop the twisting and send the load through the chassis OR too the next weak link which is either the drive shafts or the diff
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That didn’t bother using a ppf as they tied the gear box and the diff into the roll cage of the car and the chassis of the car. This FD was said to be around 950kg
Obviously it’s a lot of work to do but just saying it can be done.
Is the ppf essentially there too tie the driveline together? From
Front too rear.
So wouldthere be a lot of flex allowed from the engine all the way too the rear wheels?
I did a little bit of searching last night night and a common problem with FD gear boxes, so I would guess this applies too rx8 boxes, is third gear, whether it is causing broken shafts, synchros are even the gear itself. Mostly linked too the twisting/flex. So I would see it as the engine is starting to make a lot of load and then shifting from 2 to 3 at 8,000? Causes the damage?
With the gearing in third getting closer too 1-1 there’s a lot of “torque†( yes torque on a rotary
) being loaded through that box isn’t there. Lots of twisting with all the drive line.Stop the twisting and send the load through the chassis OR too the next weak link which is either the drive shafts or the diff
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2018, 09:53:48 AM
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2018, 09:53:48 AM
Yes, we have been thinking that too, bolting rear and engine straight into chassis basically. But its going to be massive job I reckon
Well, I dont think PPF is crusial, but it really helps putting all the power into tyres. Mazda used lots of time and effort to it, so I quess it really matters somehow. Just because it thights those components together, not allowing them to flex, it helps. Afterall, many FDs have broken PPF so it kind of works
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Well, I dont think PPF is crusial, but it really helps putting all the power into tyres. Mazda used lots of time and effort to it, so I quess it really matters somehow. Just because it thights those components together, not allowing them to flex, it helps. Afterall, many FDs have broken PPF so it kind of works
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 10:05:05 AM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 10:05:05 AM
When you had a piccy of your fd box up Grant i wondered what that plate was for.... :13:
Good turn around Clive!!!
Good turn around Clive!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 18, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
Post by: clive on March 18, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
Jarno, hope your right about the ratio and grunt ;)
Yes you need an RX-8 starter with an RX-8 box as it sits 10mm further in than an FD starter.
Yes you need an RX-8 starter with an RX-8 box as it sits 10mm further in than an FD starter.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 11:45:49 AM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 11:45:49 AM
Is it worth tearing the blown box Clive for abit of root cause analysis....or in laymans speak...."what broke inside"...
Like Grant says maybe some simple bracing...but hey its your power....the Westy with std power and 560kg...box is the original had plenty of abuse...synchros are showing wear...but its held up fine so far...
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Like Grant says maybe some simple bracing...but hey its your power....the Westy with std power and 560kg...box is the original had plenty of abuse...synchros are showing wear...but its held up fine so far...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on March 18, 2018, 12:08:47 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 18, 2018, 12:08:47 PM
some nice info here good Sunday morning reading :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 18, 2018, 10:05:05 AMYeh it looks weird why I had it on there butmakes a lot of sense when I explain it doesn’t it
When you had a piccy of your fd box up Grant i wondered what that plate was for.... :13:
Good turn around Clive!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
Yes mate....keep it stored for me lol...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 01:02:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2018, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 18, 2018, 12:23:57 PMLol. If I get a bit of spare cash, enough for the mx5 we’ve talked about I will be keeping the box to drop into that with my engine lol. Should be getting my tax return soon.....
Yes mate....keep it stored for me lol...
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I got mine from Kev years ago, Prety certain he had a few others spare on the racking at his company/work
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 21, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Post by: boosted on March 21, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Speaking to Tim today..rx motors.
Rx7 fd gearboxes have widergears for more load.
He suggested with regard to your set up with the 8 gearbox is rx8 bell housing fd gearbox with rx8 tail...so would be right length i.e rx8 gearbox length...this is the set up in his drag car. he suspects youve stripped the gear.
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Rx7 fd gearboxes have widergears for more load.
He suggested with regard to your set up with the 8 gearbox is rx8 bell housing fd gearbox with rx8 tail...so would be right length i.e rx8 gearbox length...this is the set up in his drag car. he suspects youve stripped the gear.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 21, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Post by: boosted on March 21, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Edit physically wider gears not ratios.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2018, 08:47:14 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2018, 08:47:14 PM
Many thanks for your help over the winter Jon.
Cars finally all ready after another frantic day of preparation.
Changed the brake system yet again!, stuck my new 9.5 Enkie wheels and Toyo R888R 265 tyres front and rear on, so the car will feel completely different especially as it will have different gear ratios as well with the 5 speed box , so we are back to learning the car in qualifying ;)
I know some of you follow the events via TSL so here's the times for the event on Sunday :great:
Qualifying is at 10.25 / 1st race 14.55 2nd 17.50
p.s. real pleased to see Paul Buckmaster out with me in his FD :13:
Cars finally all ready after another frantic day of preparation.
Changed the brake system yet again!, stuck my new 9.5 Enkie wheels and Toyo R888R 265 tyres front and rear on, so the car will feel completely different especially as it will have different gear ratios as well with the 5 speed box , so we are back to learning the car in qualifying ;)
I know some of you follow the events via TSL so here's the times for the event on Sunday :great:
Qualifying is at 10.25 / 1st race 14.55 2nd 17.50
p.s. real pleased to see Paul Buckmaster out with me in his FD :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 24, 2018, 06:57:53 AM
Post by: re japi on March 24, 2018, 06:57:53 AM
Good luck, sir!!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on March 24, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
Post by: rote8 on March 24, 2018, 09:58:21 AM
Fingers and everything else crossed this time Clive. :icon_thumright: I will not be coming so as to not jinks this outing. :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 02:36:55 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 02:36:55 AM
Good luck Clive...i will be listening on Tsl.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 25, 2018, 08:51:24 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 25, 2018, 08:51:24 AM
Good luck Clive, will be following online.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on March 25, 2018, 01:46:49 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 25, 2018, 01:46:49 PM
good luck man ......
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 03:03:39 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 03:03:39 PM
Woohoo Result! I can breath now...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 06:30:16 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 06:30:16 PM
Race win.woohoo! Welldone...all that hardwork of yours finally paid off!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
Don't normally post pictures of myself ----------but is a special day ;)
Brands Hatch to day, I had a very different and faster RX-8, over 2 seconds a lap faster, that much different.
With all the changes to the brakes, now having the 5 speed RX-8 gearbox plus losing around 25 kilo out the car and different wheels and tyres, it felt very very different to get used to.
30 car grid and qualified only 11th :( end of the first race , finished 6th Overall and won my class and knew I had to get my finger out for the second race ::)
Got chopped off on the start of the second race but got up to 4th, then on the second lap a car decided to have a lay down on its roof after tying to get through Paddock Hill unsuccessfully ???
Full grid line up and a standing start from 4th, made a fairly good start and got the three around the outside at Paddock Hill to lead into Druids and then fought off the following cars the whole race to win overall, knowing that with just one tiny mistake the race would have been lost.
With me Winning Overall, the first four of us ended up being covered by only 2 seconds at the line, to be told on the podium it was the best race of the weekend :)
Because of the pressure, It was actually one of the best races of my long racing career, plus the car now laps consistently in the 54 second bracket with a best of 54.4 seconds---------- this year my aim was 55 seconds!
Huge thanks to everyone for support for this project ----------- I always knew the RX-8 would be a winner eventually :great:
Brands Hatch to day, I had a very different and faster RX-8, over 2 seconds a lap faster, that much different.
With all the changes to the brakes, now having the 5 speed RX-8 gearbox plus losing around 25 kilo out the car and different wheels and tyres, it felt very very different to get used to.
30 car grid and qualified only 11th :( end of the first race , finished 6th Overall and won my class and knew I had to get my finger out for the second race ::)
Got chopped off on the start of the second race but got up to 4th, then on the second lap a car decided to have a lay down on its roof after tying to get through Paddock Hill unsuccessfully ???
Full grid line up and a standing start from 4th, made a fairly good start and got the three around the outside at Paddock Hill to lead into Druids and then fought off the following cars the whole race to win overall, knowing that with just one tiny mistake the race would have been lost.
With me Winning Overall, the first four of us ended up being covered by only 2 seconds at the line, to be told on the podium it was the best race of the weekend :)
Because of the pressure, It was actually one of the best races of my long racing career, plus the car now laps consistently in the 54 second bracket with a best of 54.4 seconds---------- this year my aim was 55 seconds!
Huge thanks to everyone for support for this project ----------- I always knew the RX-8 would be a winner eventually :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
Hoping vids soon...really wanna see that 2nd race restart! You must be buzzing!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 25, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
Hoping vids soon...really wanna see that 2nd race restart! You must be buzzing!
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Yep still buzzing :13:
I have to mail the second race camera card off to my friend Philip for editing, but he was there for the first race and had his camera facing backwards and has that card to play with first.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
Cool!....i was shouting at the screen constantly from restart ....lol my work mates thought i was mad....commentary was very good played on TSL.
Its All come together! Well done.
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Its All come together! Well done.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 05:05:13 AM
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 05:05:13 AM
Yes!!!! Congrats! Good job, Sir!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 26, 2018, 07:15:02 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 26, 2018, 07:15:02 AM
Well done clive!! Really pleased for you.
Do you feel fully connected too the car now?
Are you getting more of a workout driving the car?
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Are you getting more of a workout driving the car?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on March 26, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
Post by: rote8 on March 26, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
Finally done what we all expected. :sign0098: Well done and much more to come no doubt. :notworthy: 54.4 WOW :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 26, 2018, 10:17:54 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 26, 2018, 10:17:54 AM
What a great result, so pleased for you.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kevint on March 26, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
Post by: kevint on March 26, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
Nice one Clive, very pleased for you.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 10:45:52 AM
Actually, now Im very interested to see how she launches off the line! Previous setup was, may I say, not so fast :)
Are you alloved to change geometry and chassis/gradle in that glass?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 26, 2018, 11:05:04 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 26, 2018, 11:05:04 AM
I am sure the better gear ratios and the tyres that work pretty good cold and warm quickly, should have made a big difference.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
Heres the first race, 2nd soon with Commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzodLWWvu8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzodLWWvu8I
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 01:56:09 PM
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2018, 01:56:09 PM
That start was actually pretty good! Seems like its really easy to launch off the line, compared to previous setup. Didnt spin the wheels so much and/or stall... Unfortunately there where some stupid boyracer fourbangers in front blocking ;) :))
Gear rations seems to work really well with that engine. Revs stay in power and torque range much better now...?
Overall balance seems to be quite good too. Tyres work well with that setup
But I´m sure that Clive is happy with those updates, cause from that clip even I can see that car really has changed from previous setup :sign0098:
Gear rations seems to work really well with that engine. Revs stay in power and torque range much better now...?
Overall balance seems to be quite good too. Tyres work well with that setup
But I´m sure that Clive is happy with those updates, cause from that clip even I can see that car really has changed from previous setup :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgK_s8MS2e4&t=776s
just awesome start.... :sign0098:
just awesome start.... :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
This is the view from the guy who came 3rd.... :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 26, 2018, 10:28:24 PM
Post by: clive on March 26, 2018, 10:28:24 PM
Car was going Flaming well yesterday, even lit the end plates up :great:
(I will answer some of the above tomorrow)
(I will answer some of the above tomorrow)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 26, 2018, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 26, 2018, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 26, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
Heres the first race, 2nd soon with Commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzodLWWvu8I
Ok for all that have been waiting for it here is Race 2 The WIN with Race Commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFfwzDeHCkA
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 06:12:44 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 06:12:44 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 26, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgK_s8MS2e4&t=776s
just awesome start.... :sign0098:
Damn, that thing is quite fast ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 06:28:04 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 06:28:04 AM
I really liked that added commentary :)
That Honda and those Clios are really fast. And that 205 too. Although it has some weird blocking line moves ;)
Second start was awesome! First was quite good too, but did she stall abit?
That Honda and those Clios are really fast. And that 205 too. Although it has some weird blocking line moves ;)
Second start was awesome! First was quite good too, but did she stall abit?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:14:57 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:14:57 AM
Fantastic. What a restart...got the hook up off the line spot on.
Thoughts on the R888R,s Clives?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Thanks Philip...great editing overlaying commentary no idea how you do that.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:59:31 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:59:31 AM
Jarno, see what you mean about the pug205....defo blocking move, tried again at 6.34...think hes 1 to keep an eye on Clive for rest of season Clive! :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 08:56:54 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 08:56:54 AM
Race 2 onboard with 205....epic driving from this guy. :great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OBhdiUwCdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OBhdiUwCdU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:59:31 AMYeah, really agressive and quite dangerous moves there. And few times... True, Clive should be keeping his eyes on him...
Jarno, see what you mean about the pug205....defo blocking move, tried again at 6.34...think hes 1 to keep an eye on Clive for rest of season Clive! :violent1:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 10:22:05 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:20:35 AMIn the rearview mirror ha ha!Quote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:59:31 AMYeah, really agressive and quite dangerous moves there. And few times... True, Clive should be keeping his eyes on him...
Jarno, see what you mean about the pug205....defo blocking move, tried again at 6.34...think hes 1 to keep an eye on Clive for rest of season Clive! :violent1:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:27:17 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:27:17 AM
Damn those little things are fast! Especially that Honda. Honda and Clios are racing nice and with nice lines. But that Pug, really agressive and agressively jumps into corners... Nice driving tho
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
Spitfire Chrissy!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 10:37:33 AM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 10:37:33 AM
If Christines been exorcised...i hope the spirit didnt jump out of Clives into 1 of mine.....possibly the mx5 that refused to start for 3 weeks after Clive picked it up...it was the closest to Christine...it drove onto Clives trailer then nothing...new ecu and immobilser crank and cam sensor...still dead then swapped it all back again and burst into life...
Gonna hang a cross up in garage and get some garlic me thinks...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Wow, I could watch those videos over and over :icon_thumleft: Much more exciting than a lot of the F1 races!
Really great to watch the close racing from three perspectives. Clive, you did really well to win with all that pressure behind you :notworthy: Great flammage too, that should keep people off your tail ;)
The sound overlay is fantastic to :sign0098:
Really great to watch the close racing from three perspectives. Clive, you did really well to win with all that pressure behind you :notworthy: Great flammage too, that should keep people off your tail ;)
The sound overlay is fantastic to :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Wow, I could watch those videos over and over :icon_thumleft: Much more exciting than a lot of the F1 races!
Really great to watch the close racing from three perspectives. Clive, you did really well to win with all that pressure behind you :notworthy: Great flammage too, that should keep people off your tail ;)
The sound overlay is fantastic to :sign0098:
I'll get you a slow mo of the flame from the rear camera tonight ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Thanks Philip...great editing overlaying commentary no idea how you do that.
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Hello Jon, I had never thought of adding the commentary before, I think I will do it more often :great:
Do all the tracks broadcast the track side commentary or is it just Brands Hatch?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
I'll get you a slow mo of the flame from the rear camera tonight ;)
Thanks Philip :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AMCertainly all of Clive's races that I can recall have had the TSL Timing live commentary. It was superb hearing it along with the video :)
Do all the tracks broadcast the track side commentary or is it just Brands Hatch?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 12:45:27 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 12:45:27 PM
Here is footage of the car going off at Paddock which stopped the race https://youtu.be/eWzNrgr1v88
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 01:16:29 PM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AMI really liked it too, good idea... Olso it would be awesome to see times, splits and so on too. Dunno if its possible thoQuote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Thanks Philip...great editing overlaying commentary no idea how you do that.
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Hello Jon, I had never thought of adding the commentary before, I think I will do it more often :great:
Do all the tracks broadcast the track side commentary or is it just Brands Hatch?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: re japi on March 27, 2018, 01:16:29 PMQuote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AMI really liked it too, good idea... Olso it would be awesome to see times, splits and so on too. Dunno if its possible thoQuote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Thanks Philip...great editing overlaying commentary no idea how you do that.
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Hello Jon, I had never thought of adding the commentary before, I think I will do it more often :great:
Do all the tracks broadcast the track side commentary or is it just Brands Hatch?
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Times and Splits too hahaha Sorry you will have to ask Sky TV to do that, I hardly get time to do the main footage :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 03:21:12 PM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2018, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 01:18:45 PMQuote from: re japi on March 27, 2018, 01:16:29 PMQuote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:23:26 AMI really liked it too, good idea... Olso it would be awesome to see times, splits and so on too. Dunno if its possible thoQuote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Thanks Philip...great editing overlaying commentary no idea how you do that.
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Hello Jon, I had never thought of adding the commentary before, I think I will do it more often :great:
Do all the tracks broadcast the track side commentary or is it just Brands Hatch?
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Times and Splits too hahaha Sorry you will have to ask Sky TV to do that, I hardly get time to do the main footage :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
Wow, I now know why the commentators were going beserk, watch this from lap three when the restart takes place.
Didn't realise what a hell of a race was going on behind me.
Learnt a lot from actually seeing the RX-8 in action
https://youtu.be/1OBhdiUwCdU
Didn't realise what a hell of a race was going on behind me.
Learnt a lot from actually seeing the RX-8 in action
https://youtu.be/1OBhdiUwCdU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:34:26 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:34:26 PM
Ive watched both those...yep they were lapping at your heels. Back markers too came into play too.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 27, 2018, 07:34:26 PM
Ive watched both those...yep they were lapping at your heels. Back markers too came into play too.
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I was desperately trying to use the back markers, worked most of the time only didn't work with one Pug that didn't see me coming.
I already know I needed a stiffer rear bar and have a different bar on order from Racing Beat and now I have seen this video I know I need one.
This will also let me run the rear dampers softer for more grip
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:14:24 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 27, 2018, 11:23:56 AMQuote from: Prototype on March 27, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
I'll get you a slow mo of the flame from the rear camera tonight ;)
Thanks Philip :icon_thumleft:
Here you go Malcolm this is the flame that blinded me while I was standing in the Paddock lol ;)
https://youtu.be/UKw480Yjajg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 06:20:41 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 06:20:41 AM
Yes, good racing from those 3 racers. Reminds me old WTCC abit... That Pug might be low on power but that dude really jumps into corners and brakes late...
Btw, can you lose some weight from car more?
Earlier I didnt realize how close those two were, especially that Honda. So good driving under pressure Clive! :great:
We have saying here, goes something like: "dont drive from mirror views". Raughly means that if you are checking what happens behind you all the time, it will mess up your own driving and lines. Thats why we adjusted our friends Ladas mirrors so he cant see from those :D
Btw, can you lose some weight from car more?
Earlier I didnt realize how close those two were, especially that Honda. So good driving under pressure Clive! :great:
We have saying here, goes something like: "dont drive from mirror views". Raughly means that if you are checking what happens behind you all the time, it will mess up your own driving and lines. Thats why we adjusted our friends Ladas mirrors so he cant see from those :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 07:54:36 AM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 07:54:36 AM
Jarno, I have borrowed a mould to make up a boot lid skin but ran out of time to make it.
The boot lid weighs a ton and needs to go, however its not that simple as the rear wing needs a redesign so it mounts off the main body rear wings and not the boot. I know this will shed a lump of weight.
Don't forget with the little lighter cars they hold many advantages with their light weight as they have less weight and mass to accelerate and then decelerate over the RX-8.
The boot lid weighs a ton and needs to go, however its not that simple as the rear wing needs a redesign so it mounts off the main body rear wings and not the boot. I know this will shed a lump of weight.
Don't forget with the little lighter cars they hold many advantages with their light weight as they have less weight and mass to accelerate and then decelerate over the RX-8.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on March 28, 2018, 11:06:23 AM
Post by: jinx on March 28, 2018, 11:06:23 AM
Does this mean 'Christine' has forgiven you...or maybe you've forgiven her?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Post by: Casey on March 28, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Looks like she's "flaming mad" to me ;) ;D
:icon_thumright: Thanks for the slo-mo vid of the flammage Philip :)
:icon_thumright: Thanks for the slo-mo vid of the flammage Philip :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on March 28, 2018, 12:56:32 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 28, 2018, 12:56:32 PM
well done Clive :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
Quote from: clive on March 28, 2018, 07:54:36 AMOk, I see. Forgot that then rear wing needs to be redesigned...
Jarno, I have borrowed a mould to make up a boot lid skin but ran out of time to make it.
The boot lid weighs a ton and needs to go, however its not that simple as the rear wing needs a redesign so it mounts off the main body rear wings and not the boot. I know this will shed a lump of weight.
Don't forget with the little lighter cars they hold many advantages with their light weight as they have less weight and mass to accelerate and then decelerate over the RX-8.
How much she weights now, and how much you think you can still lose weight, easily?
True, weight really is enemy. Look at my "motto" at the bottom ;) Thats why my ice racers dont weight anything. Dont have power but can easily fight against more powefull cars...
Howerer, if you lose to much weight from one end of the car, it will change balance. Traction, acceleration, braking, it really affects everything. I wonder what weight balance you have at the moment, maybe 51% in front...?
For example, friends rallycross Lada was really over weighted in previous season. About 1075 kg (minimum is 1060kg) with about 57% weight balance in back. But it needed to be done cause with 1060kg and about 54% rear weight, there were not enough traction. Compromises... :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2018, 02:27:05 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2018, 02:27:05 PM
I reckon youd save weight by removing that frikin big turbo and sending to me.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 03:37:35 PM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2018, 03:37:35 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: jinx on March 28, 2018, 11:06:23 AM
Does this mean 'Christine' has forgiven you...or maybe you've forgiven her?
She's been a good girl, so defiantly forgiven ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Jarno, fully understand weight loss, learnt that with Minis as a kit also I played around with Moto Cross years ago and could beat 500's with my KX125 mostly due to its lighter weight.
Still no idea what it weighs, as for distribution, I have the poor mans way way of finding out.
If I jack the exactly car in the middle, both front and rear wheels come off the ground together :)
Still no idea what it weighs, as for distribution, I have the poor mans way way of finding out.
If I jack the exactly car in the middle, both front and rear wheels come off the ground together :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2018, 07:36:10 PM
Post by: boosted on March 28, 2018, 07:36:10 PM
Clive when you get 5 can you post up race calendar....venues and dates pls.
also got some checking for you..
1. A scan code read see what codes are in there, think there was 4 in there after rewire and running, be good to check and validate them.
2. Tightness check on alternator, starter and fuse box big power connectors.
3. Security of omp under dash...that bolt holding it in place nice and tight.
also got some checking for you..
1. A scan code read see what codes are in there, think there was 4 in there after rewire and running, be good to check and validate them.
2. Tightness check on alternator, starter and fuse box big power connectors.
3. Security of omp under dash...that bolt holding it in place nice and tight.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 29, 2018, 05:44:14 AM
Post by: re japi on March 29, 2018, 05:44:14 AM
Quote from: clive on March 28, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Jarno, fully understand weight loss, learnt that with Minis as a kit also I played around with Moto Cross years ago and could beat 500's with my KX125 mostly due to its lighter weight.
Still no idea what it weighs, as for distribution, I have the poor mans way way of finding out.
If I jack the exactly car in the middle, both front and rear wheels come off the ground together :)
Didnt meant to be rude, ofcourse I know that you understand it. :)
True, its amazing what really really low weight can do...
Ok, I see. "Poor mans way yo finding out" :great: I quess she still is quite near 50/50 then. Still would be really interesting to see true corner weights :)
Anyhoo, I just keep watching your in car vids over and over again! ;D Really amazing job! :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:56:20 AM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 28, 2018, 07:36:10 PM
Clive when you get 5 can you post up race calendar....venues and dates pls.
also got some checking for you..
1. A scan code read see what codes are in there, think there was 4 in there after rewire and running, be good to check and validate them.
2. Tightness check on alternator, starter and fuse box big power connectors.
3. Security of omp under dash...that bolt holding it in place nice and tight.
Thanks Jon :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:58:10 AM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 29, 2018, 05:44:14 AM
Anyhoo, I just keep watching your in car vids over and over again! ;D Really amazing job! :13:
Thankyou, I do appreciate your input 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2018, 08:59:47 AM
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2018, 08:59:47 AM
Only a few things unless you can think of anything else.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 29, 2018, 09:23:45 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 29, 2018, 09:23:45 AM
Can you replace the rear window also clive for weight savings? I bet that piece of glass weighs a fair bit also?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 12:41:19 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 29, 2018, 09:23:45 AM
Can you replace the rear window also clive for weight savings? I bet that piece of glass weighs a fair bit also?
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Good call, I will have a look at that but I know that as the glass is very thin and weighs very little.
Same goes for the rear quarter-lights
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:45:58 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 08:45:58 PM
I now have pictures :)
I had to look at pic 2 as this shows just how close up and under Rich Hockley was as you can only just see the back of his car because the RX-8 is obscuring his car almost completely----------proper close clean racing :great:
I had to look at pic 2 as this shows just how close up and under Rich Hockley was as you can only just see the back of his car because the RX-8 is obscuring his car almost completely----------proper close clean racing :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
Nice photo...
Weight loss.. stay with the lights on high beam...lose the xenon pack and gut the headlights..weight off the nose.
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Weight loss.. stay with the lights on high beam...lose the xenon pack and gut the headlights..weight off the nose.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 09:10:34 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2018, 09:10:34 PM
Race dates:-
Track Attack - 7th May (Bank holiday Monday) Castle Coombe, Chippenham, Wiltshire
Track Attack - 24th June Rockingham (Sunday)
All-Comers - 30/ 1st July Snetterton (Sat/Sun)
Track Attack - 29th July (Sunday) Silverstone
Track Attack - 12th August (Sunday) Snetterton
Track Attack - 29th September (Saturday)Donnington
All-Comers - 10/11 November Brands Hatch
Track Attack - 7th May (Bank holiday Monday) Castle Coombe, Chippenham, Wiltshire
Track Attack - 24th June Rockingham (Sunday)
All-Comers - 30/ 1st July Snetterton (Sat/Sun)
Track Attack - 29th July (Sunday) Silverstone
Track Attack - 12th August (Sunday) Snetterton
Track Attack - 29th September (Saturday)Donnington
All-Comers - 10/11 November Brands Hatch
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
Really good photos!
True, he was really close. And yes, gentleman racing. Clean lines, not hitting, even tho very close few times. :great:
Damn, that 2nd of June event would be awesome to attend to... :(
True, he was really close. And yes, gentleman racing. Clean lines, not hitting, even tho very close few times. :great:
Damn, that 2nd of June event would be awesome to attend to... :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 30, 2018, 09:35:34 AM
Post by: boosted on March 30, 2018, 09:35:34 AM
Surprise surprise ill be at Combe on 7th and can be your wheelman again if you want.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 30, 2018, 09:45:36 AM
Post by: clive on March 30, 2018, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 30, 2018, 09:35:34 AM:great:
Surprise surprise ill be at Combe on 7th and can be your wheelman again if you want.
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Found a plastic rear window and ordered some blue gelcoat to make my boot lid skin hopefully get the car lighter for the next race.
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Post by: re japi on March 31, 2018, 07:07:40 AM
Post by: re japi on March 31, 2018, 07:07:40 AM
Nice! Change rear doors windows too?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 31, 2018, 07:12:51 AM
Post by: boosted on March 31, 2018, 07:12:51 AM
Lol...an exercise bike and some slimfast should shift a few pounds...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Tony Hunter has just posted his race and I can now see just how fraught the racing was behind me.
Staggered how much FLAME comes out the back at times, I can only put this down to the Lucas Octane Booster I was running for protection :wee_hee:
BTW the mental 205 is a car I have seen win many times in different formulas, its a very well sorted car!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO2ocXIOEd0&feature=share
Hope you enjoy--- I did :)
p.s. I was very careful about the Octain Booster as some are oxygenated and will change the map, this one has no added oxygen and is even listed for use in Rotarys
Staggered how much FLAME comes out the back at times, I can only put this down to the Lucas Octane Booster I was running for protection :wee_hee:
BTW the mental 205 is a car I have seen win many times in different formulas, its a very well sorted car!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO2ocXIOEd0&feature=share
Hope you enjoy--- I did :)
p.s. I was very careful about the Octain Booster as some are oxygenated and will change the map, this one has no added oxygen and is even listed for use in Rotarys
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 02, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
Post by: Casey on April 02, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
Another great perspective on your race. Some really close, but clean racing going on behind you there :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Whoops, :-[ have another look Malcolm, I put the wrong race up :violent1:!
Race two now put up :great:
Race two now put up :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2018, 04:24:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2018, 04:24:49 PM
Quote from: clive on April 02, 2018, 03:48:53 PMI was ever so slightly confused, I was like where’s clive in this race
Whoops, :-[ have another look Malcolm, I put the wrong race up :violent1:!
Race two now put up :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 02, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Post by: Casey on April 02, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: clive on April 02, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Whoops, :-[ have another look Malcolm, I put the wrong race up :violent1:!
Race two now put up :great:
:) I did notice straight away, having seen both races from several angles ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 02, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Post by: boosted on April 02, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Although not rotary anymore..Putts doing well at combe today race win..and currently leading 2nd race....1.11 in this awful weather....nope a 1.10...jesus...no hope for Westory...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 06:07:05 PM
Post by: clive on April 02, 2018, 06:07:05 PM
Thanks for mending the link Malcolm :great:
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Post by: re japi on April 03, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
Post by: re japi on April 03, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
That is some good racing. Very close. Fully agree with those commentators...
205 had adjustable rear wing That Honda is really really close all the time...
Btw, that one gent in Facebook had a good idea whats "wrong" with your car. You sit on wrong side of it!
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205 had adjustable rear wing
That Honda is really really close all the time...Btw, that one gent in Facebook had a good idea whats "wrong" with your car. You sit on wrong side of it!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 03, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
Post by: clive on April 03, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
Quote from: re japi on April 03, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
Btw, that one gent in Facebook had a good idea whats "wrong" with your car. You sit on wrong side of it!
Thanks Jarno ,
The gent is a friend of mine who now lives in Canada and like you they have the steering wheel on the wrong side ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 03, 2018, 02:00:18 PM
Post by: re japi on April 03, 2018, 02:00:18 PM
Yeah, I laughed so hard when I saw his comment. Cause YOU are at wrong side ;)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
The reasons you drive on the wrong side of the road Jarno is down to the French telling you too....and the reason we drive on the Right...(the right side :great:) is the former Great British Empire! the subject is quite interesting on wikipedia...worth a read..give me a Maclaren P1 and ill sit in the middle :13: on the subject.
so Clive your next out on 7th May....
well there still places at Combe on friday 13th/4....for a £150.00 track day....dial her in for Combe. Trackday with Slip and Grip Automotive. Details on their website.
so Clive your next out on 7th May....
well there still places at Combe on friday 13th/4....for a £150.00 track day....dial her in for Combe. Trackday with Slip and Grip Automotive. Details on their website.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 04, 2018, 06:05:23 AM
Post by: re japi on April 04, 2018, 06:05:23 AM
French is telling me to...? ??? I dont listen to any French, or any other nationality ;D But ill have to check that wiki thing...
But have you thought why LHD is better. Two reasons for example:
-most important gears in racing, shifting gears from 2nd to 3rd, just "extend" your right arm. Or 3rd to 2nd, just pull your arm towards you. Much easier move that if driving RHD car and you have to shift with your left hand with weird moves :)
-Also, most of the racing circuits are drive clock wise, then most of the turns usually are to right. So, in LHD car you see apex of the corner sooner than when RHD car...
:icon_thumright:
But have you thought why LHD is better. Two reasons for example:
-most important gears in racing, shifting gears from 2nd to 3rd, just "extend" your right arm. Or 3rd to 2nd, just pull your arm towards you. Much easier move that if driving RHD car and you have to shift with your left hand with weird moves :)
-Also, most of the racing circuits are drive clock wise, then most of the turns usually are to right. So, in LHD car you see apex of the corner sooner than when RHD car...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 04, 2018, 06:16:46 AM
Post by: boosted on April 04, 2018, 06:16:46 AM
Yeah but the "french"..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 07:47:57 AM
Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 07:47:57 AM
Jon, It is tempting but I have a few jobs to do on the race car, plus the boot and the redesign of the rear wing and need to concentrate on my poor neglected RX-4. Four weeks will soon zomp round.
BTW, LHD or RHD ----------never found a difference to driving style-----------probably owned 5 LHD cars over the years including the Mustang which was a 10 second street / Strip car, I ran it for a season and won 5 of 7 rounds I entered to win a championship -------best bit was Sterling Moss presented me with a nice big silver cup which was sadly stolen along with all my other trophys years ago
BTW, LHD or RHD ----------never found a difference to driving style-----------probably owned 5 LHD cars over the years including the Mustang which was a 10 second street / Strip car, I ran it for a season and won 5 of 7 rounds I entered to win a championship -------best bit was Sterling Moss presented me with a nice big silver cup which was sadly stolen along with all my other trophys years ago
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Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/RotaryNews/photos/a.311512892196593.95746.270193212995228/2036058079742057/?type=3&theater
Just seen this link on Rotary News that made me smile ;)
Just seen this link on Rotary News that made me smile ;)
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Post by: Casey on April 04, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
;D Loving that:
"Motorsport Monday - The Racing Beat Europe RX-8 Circuit Machine, breaking piston hearts in the UK." :13:
"Motorsport Monday - The Racing Beat Europe RX-8 Circuit Machine, breaking piston hearts in the UK." :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2018, 04:37:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2018, 04:37:49 PM
Quote from: clive on April 04, 2018, 07:47:57 AMLove the mustang clive
Jon, It is tempting but I have a few jobs to do on the race car, plus the boot and the redesign of the rear wing and need to concentrate on my poor neglected RX-4. Four weeks will soon zomp round.
BTW, LHD or RHD ----------never found a difference to driving style-----------probably owned 5 LHD cars over the years including the Mustang which was a 10 second street / Strip car, I ran it for a season and won 5 of 7 rounds I entered to win a championship -------best bit was Sterling Moss presented me with a nice big silver cup which was sadly stolen along with all my other trophys years ago
I remember you telling me about it and sterling moss presenting you the trophy. Did you run a Windsor block? As you found you could more rpm out of it?As for LHD/RHD...... I watched a video recently that explained the origins of it. It’s something to do with horse and carriages and where you would sit on them depending on all sort of stuff. I will see if I can find it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2018, 04:39:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2018, 04:39:19 PM
Found it
https://youtu.be/5CQJW2S9lE4
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Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
Post by: clive on April 04, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
Thanks for the link Grant, now we know, now where's that Jarno who still obeys what Napoleon wanted :)) :))
Yes it had a very bored out Windsor lump and I was probably one of the first running lots of NOS :)
It was so new at the time over here I could not get the gas for it, so a "friend" found me a medical bottle of laughing gas that took up the width of the boot, lasted me all season as I set it up so it only injected on 3/4 throttle :D
Yes it had a very bored out Windsor lump and I was probably one of the first running lots of NOS :)
It was so new at the time over here I could not get the gas for it, so a "friend" found me a medical bottle of laughing gas that took up the width of the boot, lasted me all season as I set it up so it only injected on 3/4 throttle :D
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Post by: re japi on April 05, 2018, 07:38:15 AM
Post by: re japi on April 05, 2018, 07:38:15 AM
Bugger... Well, I dont do anything that foreigns tell me to do, especially french
For drag racing, and motorsports general, Cleveland is actuallt better block
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 05, 2018, 10:08:49 AM
Post by: clive on April 05, 2018, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 05, 2018, 07:38:15 AM
For drag racing, and motorsports general, Cleveland is actuallt better block
Hmmmmmm, ??? NASCAR stayed with Windsor blocks for years with Cleveland heads on top, best of both worlds ;)
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Post by: re japi on April 05, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
Post by: re japi on April 05, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: clive on April 05, 2018, 10:08:49 AMDammit! Dont know what I was thinking and typing, somekind of brainfart... :-?Quote from: re japi on April 05, 2018, 07:38:15 AM
For drag racing, and motorsports general, Cleveland is actuallt better block
Hmmmmmm, ??? NASCAR stayed with Windsor blocks for years with Cleveland heads on top, best of both worlds ;)
But yes, I meant to say that Windsor IS the better option for racing, not Cleveland!
C block is better for, actually for nothing, cause they both are Fords
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 05, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
Post by: clive on April 05, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
Back to Mazda's and not Fords ;)
With Castle Coombe up next, I thought I would find the time from last years race on TSL Timing / 1.19.9 so it will be interesting to if the car is faster here as well.
Took the car over to my mate Steve's workshop and worked out what we are going to do with the rear wing mounts, the car should look very different again once it comes out for Coombe. I also worked out that while its there I can get more weight out of the rear doors :)
With Castle Coombe up next, I thought I would find the time from last years race on TSL Timing / 1.19.9 so it will be interesting to if the car is faster here as well.
Took the car over to my mate Steve's workshop and worked out what we are going to do with the rear wing mounts, the car should look very different again once it comes out for Coombe. I also worked out that while its there I can get more weight out of the rear doors :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 05, 2018, 09:12:57 PM
Post by: boosted on April 05, 2018, 09:12:57 PM
I reckon 1.16...done some x refing tsl myself...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2018, 03:56:49 AM
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2018, 03:56:49 AM
Jon, for comparison, what times your FD and Westy can do at Combe?
+3 seconds out off previous time would be achievable I reckon. But lets make target to get to 1.15 range :great:
+3 seconds out off previous time would be achievable I reckon. But lets make target to get to 1.15 range :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2018, 07:25:54 AM
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2018, 07:25:54 AM
Westy pb a 1.16 consistently 1.17...on slicks mind.
Fd pb 1.18 consistently 1.19 on semi slicks generally been 2 up with Works apprentice alongside.
I estimate 1.16 as Clives gotta learn car in qualify etc.
Make no doubt 1.16 is fast around combe, circa average speed of 90mph...the home grown combe race series special gts are lapping 1.10 consistently front runners, but these guys know the circuit like the back of there hands and the cars are mega builds sequential boxes etc. All set up and dialed in for Combe.
Its a fast flowing circuit should suit Clives rx8 well....im excited and in the race hes only gotta be quicker than everybody else whatever the time....and have fun lol.
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Fd pb 1.18 consistently 1.19 on semi slicks generally been 2 up with Works apprentice alongside.
I estimate 1.16 as Clives gotta learn car in qualify etc.
Make no doubt 1.16 is fast around combe, circa average speed of 90mph...the home grown combe race series special gts are lapping 1.10 consistently front runners, but these guys know the circuit like the back of there hands and the cars are mega builds sequential boxes etc. All set up and dialed in for Combe.
Its a fast flowing circuit should suit Clives rx8 well....im excited and in the race hes only gotta be quicker than everybody else whatever the time....and have fun lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2018, 10:16:48 AM
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2018, 10:16:48 AM
Ok, I see...
Yeah, it seems to be really fast track. I bet It suits this car...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2018, 11:01:13 AM
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2018, 11:01:13 AM
Quote from: clive on March 29, 2018, 09:10:34 PM
Race dates:-
Track Attack - 7th May (Bank holiday Monday) Castle Coombe, Chippenham, Wiltshire
Track Attack - 24th June Rockingham (Sunday)
All-Comers - 30/ 1st July Snetterton (Sat/Sun)
Track Attack - 29th July (Sunday) Silverstone
Track Attack - 12th August (Sunday) Snetterton
Track Attack - 29th September (Saturday) Donington
All-Comers - 10/11 November (sat/Sun) Brands Hatch
Corrected the Donington date in previous post (September, not August :icon_thumleft:)
All put in dairy, hoping to make a few of these, especially Snett/Brands as they are "local". Hoping Christine now finally tamed ;) Hoping I can listen to the rest on TSL Timing Live :)
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Post by: clive on April 10, 2018, 06:39:03 PM
Post by: clive on April 10, 2018, 06:39:03 PM
Even though I had already cut loads and loads out of the rear doors when I built the car, I decided to attack them again to get the rest of the lump of roll bar that forms the B pillar out and then 3 hours later with a slitting disc and another 5 Kilos has been taken off the weight of the car :D
Before and after below. (still got to tidy and paint )
Before and after below. (still got to tidy and paint )
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2018, 06:53:57 PM
Post by: re japi on April 10, 2018, 06:53:57 PM
Looks much better. I mean lighter :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 07:46:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 07:46:38 AM
Getting serious now
Iv have a larger array of holesaws if you need them.
Iv seen what they used to do to drag cars way back when! Every panel on the inside was like the holiest of holy Swiss cheese
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Iv have a larger array of holesaws if you need them.
Iv seen what they used to do to drag cars way back when! Every panel on the inside was like the holiest of holy Swiss cheese
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 11, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 07:46:38 AM
Getting serious now
Iv have a larger array of holesaws if you need them.
Thanks Grant, however once the boot lid has gone other than plastic doors, which I am not going to do as the doors now weigh just about nothing, there's not much that can now be chopped out or holed, bearing in mind on a circuit car I cant have the body flexing around.
However I have a long term plan "If" the car gets through this season I will get rid of the sound deadening that's still all over the floor pan and then, funds permitting, take out the super heavy Safety Devices bolt in cage and make an FIA spec T45 weld in cage.
Starting to work on small "cheap" mods now for the next race.
I had been using a piece of Lake Land oven heat film in the footwell but it came unstuck and I burnt my foot badly in the second race, so I have a sheet of Zircotec heat shielding to shroud the exhaust/waste gate which should help footwell temps but also help gear box temperatures.
Also going to try some more underbody Aero. When you look along the bottom of an RX-8 it pretty much has a flat floor which is good for Aero, I have the big front splitter and rear diffusers at the back but probably a lot of turbulence around the rear suspension.
I had the car up on a ramp yesterday and realised that I can attach alloy sheet to the rear lower arms which should give straight airflow from the floor pan to the diffusers and "hopefully" more downforce overall which will mean more grip :great:
I will put some pics up once I have done this incase the above does not make sense.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 08:58:40 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 08:58:40 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180411/e50df2d1c4444515fedc8b0ad692ae97.jpg)
Not the picture I was looking for but you get the idea lol.
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Not the picture I was looking for but you get the idea lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
Test..looking good Clive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 09:11:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 09:11:11 AM
With regards too aero, is it beneficial too have the rear wing protruding out passed the rear of the car as feasibly as possible so that when the air has passed the wing any drag it creates would happen away from the rear bumper?
Bit hard to explain, might try do a drawing
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 11, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 09:11:11 AM
With regards too aero, is it beneficial too have the rear wing protruding out passed the rear of the car as feasibly as possible so that when the air has passed the wing any drag it creates would happen away from the rear bumper?
Bit hard to explain, might try do a drawing
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Grant, No no no we are not doing the holy stuff, it would be like a jelly going around corners!
As for the wing, its as high and as far back as the rules allow and they do check !
Jon, can you give me a quick ring when your about please.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2018, 10:41:31 AM
Post by: boosted on April 11, 2018, 10:41:31 AM
Will do.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Quote from: clive on April 11, 2018, 10:38:58 AMAh that was going to be my next question with regards too rules.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 11, 2018, 09:11:11 AM
With regards too aero, is it beneficial too have the rear wing protruding out passed the rear of the car as feasibly as possible so that when the air has passed the wing any drag it creates would happen away from the rear bumper?
Bit hard to explain, might try do a drawing
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Grant, No no no we are not doing the holy stuff, it would be like a jelly going around corners!
As for the wing, its as high and as far back as the rules allow and they do check !
Jon, can you give me a quick ring when your about please.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 28, 2018, 10:43:07 AM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2018, 10:43:07 AM
Time table has come through for Castle Coombe Monday week
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Timetable-May-7th.pdf
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Paddock-Map-May-7th.pdf
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Timetable-May-7th.pdf
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Paddock-Map-May-7th.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
You might this interesting clive, BTCC lap records at Donington. Can you remember what times you did there? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180428/7b83767e9f46e173313750f715597e73.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 28, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
Light years away from that sort of time, nursing a slipping clutch all day at 1.21 as a fastest lap !.
Later on this year if I can get some BTCC slicks off of team Hard then I will see what the car will do with some proper grip
Just looking at last years Coombe times and my fastest lap was a 1.17 so hopefully it will be quicker this year ;)
Later on this year if I can get some BTCC slicks off of team Hard then I will see what the car will do with some proper grip
Just looking at last years Coombe times and my fastest lap was a 1.17 so hopefully it will be quicker this year ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2018, 09:26:57 AM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2018, 09:26:57 AM
Ok then i see your 1.17 and i raise you to 1.12...whole of Combe resurfaced now too...few of the bumps gone as well...if its a nice dry not too hot day....fingers x.
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Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 29, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2018, 04:22:03 PM
Couple of changes for next week.
I have fitted under-trays to the rear wishbones in an effort to clean up the air flow to the rear diffuser to try and find more downforce.
This now means that with the shape of the RX-8 floor and the deep front splitter the air should now have a clean passage out and under the whole floor pan.
Also I have changed the RX-8 front Roll Bar for an MX-5 NC bar which being softer, should take away some of the understeer and hopefully make the car turn faster through slow corners and chicanes. (still going to take the stiffer RX-8 bar in-case it does not work)
I also have a lot more heat shielding going on to take heat out of the footwell plus keeping the gearbox and diff cooler, using a mixture or Zircotech and Lakeland oven film.
I have fitted under-trays to the rear wishbones in an effort to clean up the air flow to the rear diffuser to try and find more downforce.
This now means that with the shape of the RX-8 floor and the deep front splitter the air should now have a clean passage out and under the whole floor pan.
Also I have changed the RX-8 front Roll Bar for an MX-5 NC bar which being softer, should take away some of the understeer and hopefully make the car turn faster through slow corners and chicanes. (still going to take the stiffer RX-8 bar in-case it does not work)
I also have a lot more heat shielding going on to take heat out of the footwell plus keeping the gearbox and diff cooler, using a mixture or Zircotech and Lakeland oven film.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
Cool love the floor shot...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2018, 07:26:45 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2018, 07:26:45 AM
I’m really impressed that roll bar is a straight swap! Are the rx8 and mx5 the same width then?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 30, 2018, 06:53:38 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2018, 06:53:38 PM
The RX-8 bar and the MX-5 2005-2015 roll bars are completely interchangeable
For the MX-5, I offer the RX-8 Bars for race and the softer bar for road.
Pre Brands, I ran softer front springs which helped turn in a bit which is why I will now try a softer front roll bar.
Must admit I was surprised looking at the TV just how softly sprung some of the BTCC cars were, but I suspect this was more to do with maximising aero to make the front splitter lower that allowed when static
For the MX-5, I offer the RX-8 Bars for race and the softer bar for road.
Pre Brands, I ran softer front springs which helped turn in a bit which is why I will now try a softer front roll bar.
Must admit I was surprised looking at the TV just how softly sprung some of the BTCC cars were, but I suspect this was more to do with maximising aero to make the front splitter lower that allowed when static
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2018, 07:35:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2018, 07:35:39 AM
Quote from: clive on April 30, 2018, 06:53:38 PMI was too, when the BTCC cars were warming the tyres and brakes the cars weren’t half rolling around. The track temperature was very low and the soft tyres they were using were not even going off during the race so possible that that made the cars softer to get more heat into the tyres?
The RX-8 bar and the MX-5 2005-2015 roll bars are completely interchangeable
For the MX-5, I offer the RX-8 Bars for race and the softer bar for road.
Pre Brands, I ran softer front springs which helped turn in a bit which is why I will now try a softer front roll bar.
Must admit I was surprised looking at the TV just how softly sprung some of the BTCC cars were, but I suspect this was more to do with maximising aero to make the front splitter lower that allowed when static
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2018, 09:11:21 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2018, 09:11:21 AM
Good Luck on Monday Clive, :icon_thumright: at a track I love as I am sure you do.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Thanks Ray, all loaded up and ready to go :).
Here you go you can hear live commentary on Monday if you want to ;) http://tsl-timing.com/event/181968
Here you go you can hear live commentary on Monday if you want to ;) http://tsl-timing.com/event/181968
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:32:55 AM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:32:55 AM
If you win both races Clive ill die my hair red yellow n blue to match your car!!
See you tomoz...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:41:11 AM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:41:11 AM
You putting a post on rx8oc Clive? Jog peoples memory and some more support in the crowds?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:32:55 AM
If you win both races Clive ill die my hair red yellow n blue to match your car!!
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Now there's an incentive :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:48:03 AM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 09:48:03 AM
Ill do it happily if you do the double !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:49:05 AM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:49:05 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2018, 05:54:00 PM
You can do it....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180506/ab5290a87a52612337fa4a952afc8d64.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2018, 06:42:50 AM
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2018, 06:42:50 AM
That is brilliant!!! :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2018, 06:44:20 AM
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2018, 06:44:20 AM
Im up very exciting...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
Great hairdo Jon :)
Good luck today Clive. I'll be rooting for you :13:
Good luck today Clive. I'll be rooting for you :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 07, 2018, 08:27:17 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 07, 2018, 08:27:17 AM
That hairdo Jon is scary. :sign0085:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2018, 01:00:42 PM
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2018, 01:00:42 PM
Good luck Clive! Qualified 8th on grid this morning with a time of 1m19.017, 1st in Super GT class. First race scheduled for 15.05, 2nd race 17.55. Both races are 15 minutes. Live commentary and timing available on TSL timing online :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
Quick update before Clive does the main bit and vids...
Well what a scorcher...i got in hanging...god knows what Clive feels like today doing the driving bit and long haul back to Kent...
Well Hero to um...erm zero sums it up abit which shows Clives pushing....
So race 1 qualify 8th which is not a true reflection as some drivers being naughty and ignoring yellow flags got a distinct advantage plus only 5 laps to qualify..
8th to 3rd on start...frikin epic saw it from camp...then a spin back down the grid safety car and basically 1 lap to recover to 8th...car loose on rear end...
Some changes in the pit..
Race 2...6th to 2nd absolute hero! Saw it again from Camp...1st place guy spammed up 106 with Will deClaudio multiple Combe winner off into the distance..and guest of this series so Clive held 2nd for all off race til brake issue last lap caused a spin and lost ground. Recover to come home 6th...no engine issues atall...its learning time and set up tweaking...i had a great day out without the spin on Race 2 wouldve been a 2nd place out of 42 ! But 6th still great and Clive is gathering info on the car all the time....it was very hot yesterday which meant the car was working overtime..intake temps/coolant temps wouldve been up reducing power as it does on turbo cars esp. So all good...Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Vids should be epic!
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Well what a scorcher...i got in hanging...god knows what Clive feels like today doing the driving bit and long haul back to Kent...
Well Hero to um...erm zero sums it up abit which shows Clives pushing....
So race 1 qualify 8th which is not a true reflection as some drivers being naughty and ignoring yellow flags got a distinct advantage plus only 5 laps to qualify..
8th to 3rd on start...frikin epic saw it from camp...then a spin back down the grid safety car and basically 1 lap to recover to 8th...car loose on rear end...
Some changes in the pit..
Race 2...6th to 2nd absolute hero! Saw it again from Camp...1st place guy spammed up 106 with Will deClaudio multiple Combe winner off into the distance..and guest of this series so Clive held 2nd for all off race til brake issue last lap caused a spin and lost ground. Recover to come home 6th...no engine issues atall...its learning time and set up tweaking...i had a great day out without the spin on Race 2 wouldve been a 2nd place out of 42 ! But 6th still great and Clive is gathering info on the car all the time....it was very hot yesterday which meant the car was working overtime..intake temps/coolant temps wouldve been up reducing power as it does on turbo cars esp. So all good...Winner winner Chicken Dinner! Vids should be epic!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: clive on May 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Thanks Ray, all loaded up and ready to go :).
Here you go you can hear live commentary on Monday if you want to ;) http://tsl-timing.com/event/181968
Was anyone able to listen to the live commentary? I couldn't get it to play for Castle Combe but other circuits played fine
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2018, 01:01:20 PM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2018, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: Prototype on May 08, 2018, 11:33:52 AMPhilip, no luck here either. I got the timing and mapping OK, but the bottom line of the timing screen which usually has the commentary "play button" option, was missing. I tried a few other circuits and found one other that was working, but several others weren't operational either. A shame :(
Was anyone able to listen to the live commentary? I couldn't get it to play for Castle Combe but other circuits played fine
Pleased to hear that Clive finished both races OK. I'm sure he'll be disappointed with his overall placing, especially in the 2nd race where he was running 2nd right close to the end, although he had 4 cars very close behind him for many laps. I think he did well to keep them at bay for so long.
I'm sure Clive learned a lot more about the handling of the car and where he might be able to make changes. At least he had no engine, mechanical or electrical problems by the look of it, bar his brakes in the 2nd race maybe.
It's a massive improvement on the last outing to Combe :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2018, 09:42:01 PM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2018, 09:42:01 PM
Jon's post summed most of the day up. (thanks for the spannering Jon)
Qualifying was the weirdest ones yet with cars becoming lemmings all over the place chucking themselves off the circuit all over the place resulting in just two flying'ish laps with yellow flags all over the place till the session was red flagged with a Pug hitting the barrier hard in front of me at Quarry.
Had I been able to get some laps in and learnt about the changes to the car, I could have changed the set up.
First race as you have heard got off to a flyer "but" the car felt horrible with no front feel and the "snap oversteer" into chicanes and tight corners reared its ugly head again putting me into a violent no warning spin, a spin that starts going into the chicane and ends with spinning on the exit on the third lap So I to became a Lemming! But still finished 8th of 27 finishers winning a nice trophy for winning my class and the Nippon Challenge
Between races we put 3lbs into the rear tyres and with the aid of Jon changed the front roll bar back to the stiffer one.
For the second, I had another fairly good start even though I got the revs just a little wrong and got myself into second from eighth of the grid and held that till the last lap running defensive lines, BUT during the last few laps the pedal started to disappear on me making it harder to stop the car and then going into the chicane after quarry on the final lap the pedal went straight to the floor operating the rear brakes only which instantly turned me around!
This is the first time ever I have had the pedal disappear, but then consider that the car had never raced in 28 degree temps which was hard on the car, me and most of all brakes. Wow was that one hot hard fought race for a 6th place, still won my class and the Nippon Challenge though but hugely disappointing that second place got away from me
Once again many thanks to Jon all all the people who came along with support.
p.s. could have been worse, it was sad to see the blue Civic I fought at Brands and then was fighting in the first race, grenade itself with an engine that cost 14.5 K plus the other cars that crashed, at least the car came home all intact despite the spins and the adverse heat :)
p.p.s Brake vents, maybe a roof vent and possibly a rear geometry change is next on the cards before the next outing
Qualifying was the weirdest ones yet with cars becoming lemmings all over the place chucking themselves off the circuit all over the place resulting in just two flying'ish laps with yellow flags all over the place till the session was red flagged with a Pug hitting the barrier hard in front of me at Quarry.
Had I been able to get some laps in and learnt about the changes to the car, I could have changed the set up.
First race as you have heard got off to a flyer "but" the car felt horrible with no front feel and the "snap oversteer" into chicanes and tight corners reared its ugly head again putting me into a violent no warning spin, a spin that starts going into the chicane and ends with spinning on the exit on the third lap So I to became a Lemming! But still finished 8th of 27 finishers winning a nice trophy for winning my class and the Nippon Challenge
Between races we put 3lbs into the rear tyres and with the aid of Jon changed the front roll bar back to the stiffer one.
For the second, I had another fairly good start even though I got the revs just a little wrong and got myself into second from eighth of the grid and held that till the last lap running defensive lines, BUT during the last few laps the pedal started to disappear on me making it harder to stop the car and then going into the chicane after quarry on the final lap the pedal went straight to the floor operating the rear brakes only which instantly turned me around!
This is the first time ever I have had the pedal disappear, but then consider that the car had never raced in 28 degree temps which was hard on the car, me and most of all brakes. Wow was that one hot hard fought race for a 6th place, still won my class and the Nippon Challenge though but hugely disappointing that second place got away from me
Once again many thanks to Jon all all the people who came along with support.
p.s. could have been worse, it was sad to see the blue Civic I fought at Brands and then was fighting in the first race, grenade itself with an engine that cost 14.5 K plus the other cars that crashed, at least the car came home all intact despite the spins and the adverse heat :)
p.p.s Brake vents, maybe a roof vent and possibly a rear geometry change is next on the cards before the next outing
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 10:18:17 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 10:18:17 PM
I got a good photo...handsome devil.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/12a91174b5639d8d1964868fea99a95d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 10:18:47 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2018, 10:18:47 PM
And this epic 1...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/c1383b490dcdef2fdd4308324fd7cfc9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 09, 2018, 12:28:32 AM
Post by: Casey on May 09, 2018, 12:28:32 AM
Great pics, love the flames :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
Damn, quite epic event then... ??? I tryed to listen that live commentary but for some reason I couldnt...
That brake issues was a shame... :( Dunno can bonnet vents do much for brake temps tho...
How was cars overall balance then?
How much that blue Civic has horses btw? Cause that engine is ridiculous priced... :eek:
That brake issues was a shame... :( Dunno can bonnet vents do much for brake temps tho...
How was cars overall balance then?
How much that blue Civic has horses btw? Cause that engine is ridiculous priced... :eek:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 09, 2018, 08:26:40 AM
Post by: clive on May 09, 2018, 08:26:40 AM
Great Pic Jon,
Jarno, the Civic wins a lot of races 300bhp class but probably more in a car that's super lightweight compared to mine.
Not up on Honda's but apparently it uses a different type of Honda engine adapted into the shell, to give an idea of power, he first fitted it at Silverstone and the power broke a drive shaft straight away
Balance for the second race was good with the stiffer roll bar at the front but I must find out why the car is so unstable in the entrance to the chicanes when I have to turn the car tighter
Jarno, the Civic wins a lot of races 300bhp class but probably more in a car that's super lightweight compared to mine.
Not up on Honda's but apparently it uses a different type of Honda engine adapted into the shell, to give an idea of power, he first fitted it at Silverstone and the power broke a drive shaft straight away
Balance for the second race was good with the stiffer roll bar at the front but I must find out why the car is so unstable in the entrance to the chicanes when I have to turn the car tighter
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2018, 10:08:06 AM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2018, 10:08:06 AM
Jarno google honda k24...its not an engine honda made a k20 head on a 2.4 block or summit like that..high compression na with aggressive vtec..summit like that.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 11:42:15 AM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 11:42:15 AM
Yep, thats a nice pic from Jon...
Well, only Honda engine that can go to +300 range is F20C from S2000. K20's cant go that high. K20's head max out in about 300. In rallycross we have few F20C engines that can go almost up to 330, which is a massive amount from 2-2,2 litre...
Still, that engine in that Honda is really expensive
Well, more testing and figure out that balance. I reckon its getting really close allready...
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Well, only Honda engine that can go to +300 range is F20C from S2000. K20's cant go that high. K20's head max out in about 300. In rallycross we have few F20C engines that can go almost up to 330, which is a massive amount from 2-2,2 litre...
Still, that engine in that Honda is really expensive
Well, more testing and figure out that balance. I reckon its getting really close allready...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 09, 2018, 10:08:06 AMK24 cant rev really high. Less than K20 anyways. And then there is that head, it just cant flow more... There are really good engines. But F20 costs alot and K20 just cant produce enough power, if there is need to get +300
Jarno google honda k24...its not an engine honda made a k20 head on a 2.4 block or summit like that..high compression na with aggressive vtec..summit like that.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
Excellent work Philip...im on nights so will be up for Race 2 vid...
Brilliant starts.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 10, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
Post by: Prototype on May 10, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 09, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
Excellent work Philip...im on nights so will be up for Race 2 vid...
Brilliant starts.
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Thanks John.
I have setup a youtube channel for Clive so we can have his videos all in one place. I am off to bed soon but you should see Race 2 appear once its finished uploading. I have kept the quality high so there is an 8gb video currently uploading lol.
Clives NEW Youtube Channel:-
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgW7w41I-2jq0YYAZvqwNrA
Race 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzmfzBdpEZ8&t
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 12:19:38 AM
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 12:19:38 AM
Cool...ill have a look in abit...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 12:54:54 AM
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 12:54:54 AM
Looks like alot of fun Clive...well think the wiring has had a good test...dont think any loose connection in that fusebox lol...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 10, 2018, 07:05:36 AM
Post by: re japi on May 10, 2018, 07:05:36 AM
Looks like it was quite handfull this time... ??? weird...
Nice to see that rear wing move, alot actually. Shows that is working I reckon :great:
Nice to see that rear wing move, alot actually. Shows that is working I reckon :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 10, 2018, 08:09:47 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2018, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 10, 2018, 07:05:36 AM
Looks like it was quite handfull this time... ??? weird...
Nice to see that rear wing move, alot actually. Shows that is working I reckon :great:
Yes the rear wing does move about too much!.
One of the upcoming mods is to fit the different wing mounts that we have started to make, but ran out of time with the other changes made to the car after Brands.
The new mounts will come off the body rather than the boot lid and this lets me make a one skin fibre boot lid, so we loose another chunk of weight.
My bigger problem is to suss out the lift off (snap) over steer that's caused the car to spin on more than one occasion in chicanes and slower corners.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 10, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
As a result of my friend Philips hard work, I now have a personal video channel.
This shows Race 2 I chucked away due to my brakes on the last lap!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgW7w41I-2jq0YYAZvqwNrA
Philip was right, while he was editing he realised my diff was giving up, so it looks like I was actually lucky to finish.
This shows Race 2 I chucked away due to my brakes on the last lap!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgW7w41I-2jq0YYAZvqwNrA
Philip was right, while he was editing he realised my diff was giving up, so it looks like I was actually lucky to finish.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 01:11:24 PM
Post by: boosted on May 10, 2018, 01:11:24 PM
I watched the spins in you tube slow mo last night a few times trying to suss out whats going on...and it looks like grip braking from rear on the turn in to chicanes and momemtum swinging the car round...do you think the diff is locking a wheel or semi open? Real hard to call...it like your still braking hard whilst turning the steering wheel and the back is braking free which i know you wouldnt be doing...i was going to suggest something locking up on rear...but wanted to review vids again. I was also attempting to view your gauges...checking reading but cant remember which 1 is your oil? Left of dash binacle or 2nd left of dash binacle?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 11, 2018, 09:41:55 PM
Post by: clive on May 11, 2018, 09:41:55 PM
Hopefully I have the answer to my slow corner "issues"
Spent a long while on the phone with my old mate Mark Catchpole who owns TDI over at Lakeside, who already knew a lot about chassis dynamics but has just spent a week at a chassis seminar gaining even more knowledge .
We have now both come to the conclusion that after being hard on the power the diff is not letting go and staying locked which is why the back snaps round how it does.
Next week I will buy myself a new Kazz diff which I will then strip to swap the plates to soften the way it bites. (something I have always done with plate diffs)
After that it will be off to TDI to redo the geometry, checking the front but we both agree that a bit of toe in at the rear will also help the car in slow speed corners without inducing under-steer.
While I am there he is going to weigh the car out of interest as well as that has always puzzled me.
Jon the oil gauge is the one nearest the dash binnacle
Spent a long while on the phone with my old mate Mark Catchpole who owns TDI over at Lakeside, who already knew a lot about chassis dynamics but has just spent a week at a chassis seminar gaining even more knowledge .
We have now both come to the conclusion that after being hard on the power the diff is not letting go and staying locked which is why the back snaps round how it does.
Next week I will buy myself a new Kazz diff which I will then strip to swap the plates to soften the way it bites. (something I have always done with plate diffs)
After that it will be off to TDI to redo the geometry, checking the front but we both agree that a bit of toe in at the rear will also help the car in slow speed corners without inducing under-steer.
While I am there he is going to weigh the car out of interest as well as that has always puzzled me.
Jon the oil gauge is the one nearest the dash binnacle
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2018, 10:44:05 PM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2018, 10:44:05 PM
I feel a guess the weight competition is mandatory....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Ill say 1100kg.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2018, 04:24:34 AM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2018, 04:24:34 AM
Ok, thats interesting... I did wonder that too, but I thought that IRS rear wont usually do that effect. Usually 3 and 4 link system with "hard/agressive setup" does that effect, that causes rear to snap off. Also it causes lots of understeer too, because diff is not letting go acceleration momentum... But now when you say it, it sounds logical. IRS system with welded diff lock does that too. So it might really be that your diff is too hard...
Im very interested about that weight too. Can you see corner weights also?
Ill say 1175kg... :)
Im very interested about that weight too. Can you see corner weights also?
Ill say 1175kg... :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
Post by: Casey on May 12, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
Are we talking empty fuel tank, and/or with Clive sitting in the car?
Just so I know how to pitch my bet ;)
I'll go 1125 with near empty fuel tank (and Clive absent) :)
Just so I know how to pitch my bet ;)
I'll go 1125 with near empty fuel tank (and Clive absent) :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Post by: boosted on May 12, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Car without Clive init and what ever fuel is init..near empty as most Rotaries are...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 12, 2018, 12:34:50 PMUmm, does he have fuelcell or stock tank? And how big is stock fuel tank anyways?
Car without Clive init and what ever fuel is init..near empty as most Rotaries are...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 12, 2018, 03:43:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 12, 2018, 03:43:24 PM
1250kg. Most of the weight clive has taken out, interior etc has been pretty much replaced with rollcage and turbo gubbins etc
Still got the sound deafening on the floor too??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 27, 2018, 09:36:59 PM
Post by: clive on May 27, 2018, 09:36:59 PM
Quick update,
Yes the diff was broken and I actually stripped a donated diff and found that was broke as well.
The way it was broken you will see below I can only presume kept the diff locked at times ::)
Always wondered how Mazda's RX-8 "Super Diff " worked and now I know, I also know that the tags locate the outer part onto the cone and all the tags had broken off the one that came out the race car :( so there was obviously no real control of when the diff was locked and unlocked as it was all spinning together.
So we now have a nice new 1.5 LSD Diff unit that I have stripped and reset so it is not locked too tight when the car is off power.
Off to TDI on Thursday for a rear geometry change to help the car in slow speed corners and also going to fit a set of Hawk HT10 front pads as I am sure these will give me the pedal feel I am looking for, also its a much more high temperature pad and more durable.
Going to take the car to Castle Coombe for the JDM event as hopefully this will show the changes have worked even though I wont be able to run at true race speeds on a trackday
Yes the diff was broken and I actually stripped a donated diff and found that was broke as well.
The way it was broken you will see below I can only presume kept the diff locked at times ::)
Always wondered how Mazda's RX-8 "Super Diff " worked and now I know, I also know that the tags locate the outer part onto the cone and all the tags had broken off the one that came out the race car :( so there was obviously no real control of when the diff was locked and unlocked as it was all spinning together.
So we now have a nice new 1.5 LSD Diff unit that I have stripped and reset so it is not locked too tight when the car is off power.
Off to TDI on Thursday for a rear geometry change to help the car in slow speed corners and also going to fit a set of Hawk HT10 front pads as I am sure these will give me the pedal feel I am looking for, also its a much more high temperature pad and more durable.
Going to take the car to Castle Coombe for the JDM event as hopefully this will show the changes have worked even though I wont be able to run at true race speeds on a trackday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 03, 2018, 06:44:26 PM
Post by: clive on June 03, 2018, 06:44:26 PM
Excellent day at JDM Coombe after finding the root cause of all of my snap oversteer issues!
After pulling the suspension about, I noticed that the OS rear wheel was sticking out at an angle by around 4" ???
God knows how I have even been able to drive the thing as the toe rod was moving too and fro, which explained my issues .
There are tags that stick out on the subframe to keep the adjustable camber/ caster/ toe plates in check, turns out that when I had a Civic hit me in the side at Silverstone he must have hit the wheel as the tags were knocked flat allowing the wheel to literally waggle around, no wonder I couldn't control the thing at times!
Change of pads to Hawk HT10 plus a new Extreme Brake fluid, as supplied to F2 cars and Historic F1 cars, plus the new Kazz diff, plus TDI introducing a little more camber and toe in at the rear has really sorted the back end and the car out and it is soooooo much more stable.
Brakes now have super progressive brake feel and stop the best the car has ever stopped :great: Only down side to the day was that the back wing literally collapsed after going faster that the car has ever gone before during the second session where I started "trying" on a clear track!
Talking to Carl Hayward after he believes that by using 8800 going into quarry, this probably means 150MPH so no wonder the wing collapsed.
Now I have a controllable car, I am really looking forward to Rockingham in a few weeks time ;).
After pulling the suspension about, I noticed that the OS rear wheel was sticking out at an angle by around 4" ???
God knows how I have even been able to drive the thing as the toe rod was moving too and fro, which explained my issues .
There are tags that stick out on the subframe to keep the adjustable camber/ caster/ toe plates in check, turns out that when I had a Civic hit me in the side at Silverstone he must have hit the wheel as the tags were knocked flat allowing the wheel to literally waggle around, no wonder I couldn't control the thing at times!
Change of pads to Hawk HT10 plus a new Extreme Brake fluid, as supplied to F2 cars and Historic F1 cars, plus the new Kazz diff, plus TDI introducing a little more camber and toe in at the rear has really sorted the back end and the car out and it is soooooo much more stable.
Brakes now have super progressive brake feel and stop the best the car has ever stopped :great: Only down side to the day was that the back wing literally collapsed after going faster that the car has ever gone before during the second session where I started "trying" on a clear track!
Talking to Carl Hayward after he believes that by using 8800 going into quarry, this probably means 150MPH so no wonder the wing collapsed.
Now I have a controllable car, I am really looking forward to Rockingham in a few weeks time ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2018, 07:08:54 PM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2018, 07:08:54 PM
Im looking forward to vids as i only got 7mins .
All going the right way with the car..woohoo
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 06, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Post by: Prototype on June 06, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 03, 2018, 07:08:54 PM
Im looking forward to vids as i only got 7mins .
All going the right way with the car..woohoo
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Sorry everyone the front camera didn't record due to some settings which I need to reset :(
Here is the footage from the Rear Camera (John I think you sabotaged the front camera so that you were in shot the whole time lol)
https://youtu.be/HNRI2t4CgiI
https://youtu.be/MMe_MYXu1WE
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 06, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Post by: boosted on June 06, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Brill well done Phillip...shame on the front cam but lets me off as i was all over the track...ha ha. I only got 7 mins both times on my go pro...reformatted the sd card so hopefully thats it...looks like Christine finally exorcised...bring on Rockingham...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 07, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
Post by: clive on June 07, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
Thanks as always to Philip :great:
You know, everything is easy after the event , attached is a picture of the car at Brands last October.
You can see the front edge of the rear wheel arch is pushed in from the Civic attack at Silverstone
When the car was static, the front edge of the wheel was sticking right out from the front of the arch, in this picture I have just found you can see the front edge of the wheel has gone into the arch-------------steering the car from the back !!
You know, everything is easy after the event , attached is a picture of the car at Brands last October.
You can see the front edge of the rear wheel arch is pushed in from the Civic attack at Silverstone
When the car was static, the front edge of the wheel was sticking right out from the front of the arch, in this picture I have just found you can see the front edge of the wheel has gone into the arch-------------steering the car from the back !!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 07, 2018, 11:36:40 PM
Post by: Prototype on June 07, 2018, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 06, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Brill well done Phillip...shame on the front cam but lets me off as i was all over the track...ha ha. I only got 7 mins both times on my go pro...reformatted the sd card so hopefully thats it...looks like Christine finally exorcised...bring on Rockingham...
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John I'm afraid you are not off the hook. I had another look through the 6000 odd files and 10 folders of jpg photos which Clives front camera had recorded and to my surprise I found the second session video footage. The first session was definitely a goner but here is Session 2 front facing :)
https://youtu.be/Px_XkNvHYnM
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
When i had another look at my go pro my first video turned up, ive since reformatted the SD card as recommended by Go pro suite.
Yep i watched it...well...that incident at Camp was bigger than felt in car lol..well just goes to show that Clive has a rapid well handling car now, i was nailing mine and overdriving it somewhat to stay with Clive and when it front when let past again all too much right foot...and from Clive footage you can see he was not trying to too hard too stay with me...my tyres are squealing every corner...i will say this i think r888 i had on last year are better than the r888r and a048s i have on at present...though and i had a passenger with a heart condition and a bad knee and it was saturday lol
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Yep i watched it...well...that incident at Camp was bigger than felt in car lol..well just goes to show that Clive has a rapid well handling car now, i was nailing mine and overdriving it somewhat to stay with Clive and when it front when let past again all too much right foot...and from Clive footage you can see he was not trying to too hard too stay with me...my tyres are squealing every corner...i will say this i think r888 i had on last year are better than the r888r and a048s i have on at present...though and i had a passenger with a heart condition and a bad knee and it was saturday lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2018, 09:13:42 AM
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2018, 09:13:42 AM
Seems like nose is hopping abit in corners? And understeers abit?
I wonder what kind of lateral G forces your car can do...?
Also, seems like Jon ye olde engine has some grunt left in it. :great: But this footage shows that maybe suspension is abit soft for track, car leans quite lot...?
anyhoo, nice to compare your cars going around each other... :sign0098:
I wonder what kind of lateral G forces your car can do...?
Also, seems like Jon ye olde engine has some grunt left in it. :great: But this footage shows that maybe suspension is abit soft for track, car leans quite lot...?
anyhoo, nice to compare your cars going around each other... :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
Jarno,I stiffened up for that session too and increased tyre pressure, and if id made it out for sess 3 and 4 i would've gone stiffer again. something has changed (tyres) since last year and defo felt looser and struggling to hit the apexes my vids show excessive tyre squeal. I've got mismatched tyres on R888r upfront and a048s rear which are both awesome tyres...maybe shouldnt have done it but tyres aint cheap and thats what i got atmo, a048s nearly done will put on rear r888r so matched after next trackday.
but it was fun :13:
but it was fun :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2018, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2018, 08:34:00 PM
Umm. Thats weird... What was your tyre pressure? Maybe too much...?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 08:37:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 08, 2018, 08:37:46 PM
Only went up 2psi front rear about 26 28 psi all within recommended settings...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:40:48 AM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:40:48 AM
Right Clive...
Fan control.
3 relays.
2 fans 1 bigger than other. 5 blade fan 11.9 a
7 blade fan 7.0a.
2 triggers, temps i dont know, see whats in your pcm
First trigger just relay 1...see piccy.
That is slow speed both fans in series..
Then 2nd trigger relay1 stays in..relay 2 and 3 come in (1 output from pcm brings these in.)
Both fans hi speed. R3 is a changeover relay live to neutral...could short out and blew fuse...with jumpers..best leave alone...if pulling air through rad correct way.
See piccys...
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Fan control.
3 relays.
2 fans 1 bigger than other. 5 blade fan 11.9 a
7 blade fan 7.0a.
2 triggers, temps i dont know, see whats in your pcm
First trigger just relay 1...see piccy.
That is slow speed both fans in series..
Then 2nd trigger relay1 stays in..relay 2 and 3 come in (1 output from pcm brings these in.)
Both fans hi speed. R3 is a changeover relay live to neutral...could short out and blew fuse...with jumpers..best leave alone...if pulling air through rad correct way.
See piccys...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:41:40 AM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:41:40 AM
Pics off scribbles. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180617/442fb999de14bcd4a8c2681195285b9e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180617/bec6a84173a1ffff6342c3269da755d3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180617/2274b5242b45d2f74ea1ecc4e047cb0b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:44:32 AM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 12:44:32 AM
Blue relay is R3.changeover relay. Up about 11ish...Mother in laws cooker blown up so off out to sort that first thing...if you need me give me a bell.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 18, 2018, 08:42:22 AM
Post by: clive on June 18, 2018, 08:42:22 AM
Huge thanks Jon, hopfully I will have more info later.
Wow, at least we know why the engines running hotter now, take away the speed sensors and it affects the speed of the engine fans-----always learning ???
Not looked into this yet but if need be can we not find the wires out of the ECU and simply use the high and low feeds to fit a pair of switches as the relays and all the wiring is there all ready. Or am I looking at it with with my "simple glasses on" ?
On a different note, new super light boot lid skin that will dump loads of weight and completely modified rear wing will be on for the track sessions at the Brands Tuner Fest this weekend
Wow, at least we know why the engines running hotter now, take away the speed sensors and it affects the speed of the engine fans-----always learning ???
Not looked into this yet but if need be can we not find the wires out of the ECU and simply use the high and low feeds to fit a pair of switches as the relays and all the wiring is there all ready. Or am I looking at it with with my "simple glasses on" ?
On a different note, new super light boot lid skin that will dump loads of weight and completely modified rear wing will be on for the track sessions at the Brands Tuner Fest this weekend
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 18, 2018, 06:44:01 PM
Post by: clive on June 18, 2018, 06:44:01 PM
OK Lewis put his Mazda Edit on the car and changed the vehicle speed from 10 KPH to 200KPH ! and then lowered both fan temps down to 80 degrees, so lets see what that brings at the weekend.
p.s. Jon, your mended rad is on its way back
p.s. Jon, your mended rad is on its way back
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
Cool did you test fans, prove pulling air through rads?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 19, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
Post by: clive on June 19, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
Quote from: boosted on June 18, 2018, 06:45:43 PM
Cool did you test fans, prove pulling air through rads?
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No, I will die if I run the car long enough to get the car warm in my in my underground garage ??? I will find out at this Sunday at Brands
If the engine still gets warmer than it used to I think the best bet will be this route.
Electronic Fan Controller Override Switch (its a three stage switch)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
ok mate, well at Brands, test then, jumper relay 1 with ign on, not running engine, like you said paper trick, under car, if both fans running good and both pulling through rad, if there both pulling through low speed then they will both pull through high speed. if 1 is blowing then i have made a polarity mistake in loom and the simplest way to rectify is too isolate power and to swap polarity at fan plug end....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
just for knowledge what were the temps originally set in PCM?..oem is high 102 and 115deg C?
so both temps set at 80degC your going into High speed both fans on so a 19A draw just need to be aware of that when idling in the pits/ holding area with your alternator.
next time Lewis back get him to put a 1100rpm idle target in?
so both temps set at 80degC your going into High speed both fans on so a 19A draw just need to be aware of that when idling in the pits/ holding area with your alternator.
next time Lewis back get him to put a 1100rpm idle target in?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Post by: Casey on June 19, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Ah, so with relay 1 operating, both fans are in placed series, so the voltage drop will be 6v across each (if they have identical resistance), so both will run at low speed. When relays 2 and 3 kick in, both fans see 12v. Nice relay switching arrangement that I'd not quite got my head around before - now I understand!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 19, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
Post by: clive on June 19, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 19, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
just for knowledge what were the temps originally set in PCM?..oem is high 102 and 115deg C?
ECU was locked out so it had to be overwritten, so no idea what they were set at.
I always try and watch the volt meter any way plus it ticks over at just over 2000 revs which has kept the engine running whilst performing pirouettes :-[
Boot and new wing is coming along,
Just had a trial fit on the super light fibre boot lid, just got to prep, paint and work out how to fit it on now
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 03:20:42 PM
Yes Casey, although 2 different size fans, 11.9a bigger..with 5 blades and smaller fan 7 blades lol...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 19, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Dzus syle fastners?.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 20, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Post by: clive on June 20, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Trying now to develop the car more and more now.
Tore out the arch liners completely and cut these apertures you can see below in the back edge of the front wings so air can only come out not in.
According to what I read in my monthly Race Tech and Race Car Engineering mags this should not only aid brake and oil cooler cooling, but also increase front downforce by drawing air out and turbulence from under the wings as the air passes over the top of the wing----------well that's the theory ;) You cant see it in the pictures but it looks weird looking at the tyre down through the wheel arch :)
Tore out the arch liners completely and cut these apertures you can see below in the back edge of the front wings so air can only come out not in.
According to what I read in my monthly Race Tech and Race Car Engineering mags this should not only aid brake and oil cooler cooling, but also increase front downforce by drawing air out and turbulence from under the wings as the air passes over the top of the wing----------well that's the theory ;) You cant see it in the pictures but it looks weird looking at the tyre down through the wheel arch :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on June 21, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
Post by: rote8 on June 21, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
One more development with hidden benefits as you will be able to monitor tyre wear as you drive the circuit. :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 21, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2018, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: rote8 on June 21, 2018, 05:08:01 PM
One more development with hidden benefits as you will be able to monitor tyre wear as you drive the circuit. :)) :))
You obviously need to become my development engineer adviser Ray, as I didn't think of that one, :57:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 08:10:04 AM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 08:10:04 AM
Im trying to find out what there calledbut a mate was over the other day and his boot is on new style pinlock system, you just push ident down and they camlock, it a track day car and 4 hold his de skinned metal lexus is200 boot on...ill find out what they were called. Look neat and very secure.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 22, 2018, 08:40:37 AM
Post by: clive on June 22, 2018, 08:40:37 AM
I -------- have a low tech solution Jon,
Rather than payout I have four of these below sitting on the shelf to fit on the quick.
I have some aero catches but these are fiddly to fit so they can come later
Today's mission is to fit the wing and the boot lid.
Rather than payout I have four of these below sitting on the shelf to fit on the quick.
I have some aero catches but these are fiddly to fit so they can come later
Today's mission is to fit the wing and the boot lid.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 08:58:57 AM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 08:58:57 AM
Similiar but not what he had " pit king" catches...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 22, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Post by: clive on June 22, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
We have the new wing assembly finished, just got to strap the unfinished boot lid on, which will be prepped and painted for Silverstone
O' yes and I have a new company slogan :)
O' yes and I have a new company slogan :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 04:49:29 PM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 04:49:29 PM
Are you sure its big enough giggle...
Ideally need some better piccys but looks very good and mahoosive!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on June 22, 2018, 06:00:18 PM
Post by: rote8 on June 22, 2018, 06:00:18 PM
With the increased speed Clive can now carry this wing is likely to take the rear end off the car. :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Science and physics aside...what we looking at 80kg plus downforce...so can you stand on it in the middle? If it can take that then will be fine me thinks..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 22, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
Post by: Casey on June 22, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
Looks good, but are you sure those uprights are strong enough? They look pretty thin in the pic! But I'm certainly no expert ;) :P
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:33:18 AM
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:33:18 AM
I like it. :sign0098: But it really looks massive :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 23, 2018, 09:46:12 AM
Post by: clive on June 23, 2018, 09:46:12 AM
Jarno I'll post some better pictures when its out from under my dark lair out at Brands tomorrow.
The middle wing plane is the same as last time , the side plates just make it look bigger ;)
Malcolm, you can give it a wiggle when you see it tomorrow ;), seriusly the end plates are made from good quality 3mm thick alloy and the double bends add strength. It's actually a lot sturdier than the old wing mounts.
The middle wing plane is the same as last time , the side plates just make it look bigger ;)
Malcolm, you can give it a wiggle when you see it tomorrow ;), seriusly the end plates are made from good quality 3mm thick alloy and the double bends add strength. It's actually a lot sturdier than the old wing mounts.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:26:12 PM
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2018, 07:26:12 PM
Dark lair produces Christines ;)
Anyhoo, I really like. Sides did look abit wobly but as you said, if those are so thick I quess they will handle that downforce :)
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Anyhoo, I really like. Sides did look abit wobly but as you said, if those are so thick I quess they will handle that downforce :)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 27, 2018, 09:51:21 PM
Post by: clive on July 27, 2018, 09:51:21 PM
Off to Silverstone for Sundays race.
Few changes for this one,
After seeing the picture at Brands with the rear wheel almost off the ground, I have fitted stiffer front springs (see pic below) then rather than fitting stiffer springs and spoiling the rear grip under acceleration I have fitted an extra roll bar at the back.
If this works it will help turn in on tighter corners, but if it junk in qualifying , I can quickly disconnect the second bar, we shall see ;).
Next up is stiffening ties to the rear wing and reduced the angle of the blade to 10 degrees which should help straight line speed and hopefully with the suspension shielding to give clean air to the rear diffusers I wont loose to much downforce.
Concerned about the current heat wave fans now have a totally separate loom away from the ECU with slow and fast switches on the dash, plus had the nose off to improve radiator ducting.
Dont forget if your interested you can follow Sundays qualifying and the races on https://www.tsl-timing.com/ and I suspect this time the live timing will have the tracks commentary
Few changes for this one,
After seeing the picture at Brands with the rear wheel almost off the ground, I have fitted stiffer front springs (see pic below) then rather than fitting stiffer springs and spoiling the rear grip under acceleration I have fitted an extra roll bar at the back.
If this works it will help turn in on tighter corners, but if it junk in qualifying , I can quickly disconnect the second bar, we shall see ;).
Next up is stiffening ties to the rear wing and reduced the angle of the blade to 10 degrees which should help straight line speed and hopefully with the suspension shielding to give clean air to the rear diffusers I wont loose to much downforce.
Concerned about the current heat wave fans now have a totally separate loom away from the ECU with slow and fast switches on the dash, plus had the nose off to improve radiator ducting.
Dont forget if your interested you can follow Sundays qualifying and the races on https://www.tsl-timing.com/ and I suspect this time the live timing will have the tracks commentary
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 27, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
Post by: boosted on July 27, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
Hi Clive meant to ring you ill call tomoz...dozed off on sofa lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 27, 2018, 11:41:16 PM
Post by: Casey on July 27, 2018, 11:41:16 PM
Good luck on Sunday Clive :13:
Looks like you'll have some interesting weather conditions :)
Looks like you'll have some interesting weather conditions :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on July 28, 2018, 11:48:15 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on July 28, 2018, 11:48:15 AM
Good look tomorrow.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 28, 2018, 09:56:48 PM
Post by: clive on July 28, 2018, 09:56:48 PM
Going to need a good look tomorrow Jim ;) :D
(I know what you meant, thank you :great:)
We are on the National circuit this time and having never raced on this one :(, first of all I need to find my way around it then maybe think about getting round it quicker :(
(I know what you meant, thank you :great:)
We are on the National circuit this time and having never raced on this one :(, first of all I need to find my way around it then maybe think about getting round it quicker :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 28, 2018, 10:03:05 PM
Post by: boosted on July 28, 2018, 10:03:05 PM
Get youtube on.
Silverstone National i did it on the only Japfest we went too...nice n fast...
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Silverstone National i did it on the only Japfest we went too...nice n fast...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
Clive is waiting to qualify at Silverstone for the next round of the Track Attack Race Club series today.
After weeks of glorious sunshine, it is pouring down with rain forecast for the whole day 😨
You can track the races live via https://livetiming.tsl-timing.com/183031, Qualifying at 10.00 then racing at 14.10pm & 17.35pm Car #52
After weeks of glorious sunshine, it is pouring down with rain forecast for the whole day 😨
You can track the races live via https://livetiming.tsl-timing.com/183031, Qualifying at 10.00 then racing at 14.10pm & 17.35pm Car #52
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 02:50:24 PM
After a few weather adjustments came 7th out of a grid of 37. Starting in 4th place for final race. Best lap time 1.14.599 Winner best lap of 1.14.051
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on July 29, 2018, 04:40:05 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on July 29, 2018, 04:40:05 PM
:13: :13: well done Clive a good result :sign0098: :sign0098: :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Post by: Lisa on July 29, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Alternator died in final race - not doubt Clive will update on here tomorrow.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2018, 08:55:06 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2018, 08:55:06 PM
Just got in...long wet day but fun...
Me n Clive bit off head scratching on alternator front..its outputting some juice upto 13v from 12v battery but not 14.4v
Batt light dead..not coming on with ignition...
Sense and exciter wire confusing me again...its getting the 12v feed to turn on.
Qualify...Stevie Wonder lol hence 32nd on grid.
Race 1 32nd to 7th...woohoo...
Race got 11 mins dicing at the front...up to 6th but power issue.
Ill leave the rest to Clive...
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Me n Clive bit off head scratching on alternator front..its outputting some juice upto 13v from 12v battery but not 14.4v
Batt light dead..not coming on with ignition...
Sense and exciter wire confusing me again...its getting the 12v feed to turn on.
Qualify...Stevie Wonder lol hence 32nd on grid.
Race 1 32nd to 7th...woohoo...
Race got 11 mins dicing at the front...up to 6th but power issue.
Ill leave the rest to Clive...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Piccys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180729/fb2800650bc37f338cd906f02c325915.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180729/3dd93478711f3ce7c8a0b69aef2c22e3.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Im doing some rough editing as we speak..with the forward facing cam so can post vids of yesterdays exploits. Philip is on hols so i thought id get these up and then post the sd cards to Philip so he can overlay the rear view cam etc. And work his majic as race 1 has recorded in 3 parts...
As you can see from Piccy below Not alot of visibility for qualify hence the 32 grid position...
Carl Hayward the hero suggested rain x and then left Silverstone and went and bought some which did the trick....applied on inside of windscreen no misting up!.
So race 1 32nd to 7th!!!
Race 2 7 to 6th i believe...then retire due to lack of amps...looks like alternator died...
Voltmeter in dash can be seen at 14v race 1 and 12v race 2...
Vids in hr or 2.
Long day yesterday was hanging this morning lol.
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As you can see from Piccy below Not alot of visibility for qualify hence the 32 grid position...
Carl Hayward the hero suggested rain x and then left Silverstone and went and bought some which did the trick....applied on inside of windscreen no misting up!.
So race 1 32nd to 7th!!!
Race 2 7 to 6th i believe...then retire due to lack of amps...looks like alternator died...
Voltmeter in dash can be seen at 14v race 1 and 12v race 2...
Vids in hr or 2.
Long day yesterday was hanging this morning lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
so here are the vids.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r82TMUA1ohg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Zph0ptWTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0PyZCTuwYM
race 1 parts 1 2 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2_t2AS8-Xo
race 2 full.
no point in doing qualify as cant see anything..." i just called to say wheres the race track "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r82TMUA1ohg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Zph0ptWTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0PyZCTuwYM
race 1 parts 1 2 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2_t2AS8-Xo
race 2 full.
no point in doing qualify as cant see anything..." i just called to say wheres the race track "
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 30, 2018, 11:34:03 PM
Post by: clive on July 30, 2018, 11:34:03 PM
Silverstone Race Report.
First up, huge thanks to Jon and Carl for being pit crew for the day, they were a massive help.
In qualifying, I literally could not see the track as I had misted up windows and just followed some little cars rain light as that’s all I could see and knew if I overtook I would not know which direction to go, indeed at one stage he drove off and back on the circuit and I just followed him!
You can see in one of the pictures that I was trying desperately to wipe the windows with a towel to absolutely no avail!!
Now faced with having to do something Carl disappeared off into Northampton and reappeared with Rain X and then with Jon knowing how to apply it correctly I suddenly I could see the track to go racing.
Having the Tein EDFC really came into it’s own to let me soften the dampers plus the double rear roll bar helped turn the car without a hint of under-steer. I went to the grid knowing the wet has never fazed me, indeed I have won a lot of wet races in the past, “but†I knew I would need to be very cautious and patient with cars along the way. Set up even in the wet was great and only the river running across Wellington straight really upset the car. :-[
Only time I got frustrated was when I kept coming across double yellows with meant I had to crawl down the straight with no over-taking and had this not happened I may have had a chance of getting a higher place, however a 7th place from starting 32nd was OK I suppose, plus I got a first place trophy for first in class, so that’s five trophy’s from six races this year.
More importantly to me was that my fastest lap in the wet was only 200ths of a second away from the winner which meant the car was competitive. :(
Last minute decision with Jon helping on the quick to go onto dry tyres would have paid off as the car and me would have become quicker and quicker on the now drying one line track, but as you will have already seen the alternator packed up literally on the start line and I ran the car till it ran out of battery and had to retire :-[.
Bottom line is, I had a great day and enjoyed starting at the back and having to fight my way through the field-----------however "if" I had started near the front I may had actually had a chance of winning.
Next race is only next weekend at Snetterton and for that I can put the turbo boost back up as I had it turned down yesterday for the wet ;).
Below are three pics, one from each outing and you can see with the first race pic just how wet it was.
First up, huge thanks to Jon and Carl for being pit crew for the day, they were a massive help.
In qualifying, I literally could not see the track as I had misted up windows and just followed some little cars rain light as that’s all I could see and knew if I overtook I would not know which direction to go, indeed at one stage he drove off and back on the circuit and I just followed him!
You can see in one of the pictures that I was trying desperately to wipe the windows with a towel to absolutely no avail!!
Now faced with having to do something Carl disappeared off into Northampton and reappeared with Rain X and then with Jon knowing how to apply it correctly I suddenly I could see the track to go racing.
Having the Tein EDFC really came into it’s own to let me soften the dampers plus the double rear roll bar helped turn the car without a hint of under-steer. I went to the grid knowing the wet has never fazed me, indeed I have won a lot of wet races in the past, “but†I knew I would need to be very cautious and patient with cars along the way. Set up even in the wet was great and only the river running across Wellington straight really upset the car. :-[
Only time I got frustrated was when I kept coming across double yellows with meant I had to crawl down the straight with no over-taking and had this not happened I may have had a chance of getting a higher place, however a 7th place from starting 32nd was OK I suppose, plus I got a first place trophy for first in class, so that’s five trophy’s from six races this year.
More importantly to me was that my fastest lap in the wet was only 200ths of a second away from the winner which meant the car was competitive. :(
Last minute decision with Jon helping on the quick to go onto dry tyres would have paid off as the car and me would have become quicker and quicker on the now drying one line track, but as you will have already seen the alternator packed up literally on the start line and I ran the car till it ran out of battery and had to retire :-[.
Bottom line is, I had a great day and enjoyed starting at the back and having to fight my way through the field-----------however "if" I had started near the front I may had actually had a chance of winning.
Next race is only next weekend at Snetterton and for that I can put the turbo boost back up as I had it turned down yesterday for the wet ;).
Below are three pics, one from each outing and you can see with the first race pic just how wet it was.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2018, 08:13:39 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2018, 08:13:39 PM
Jon, here we go, you asked about the output of the alternator, also it looks like the EWP only draws 10amps
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2018, 08:32:27 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2018, 08:32:27 PM
Cool 100 amps should be plenty..so age related failure.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 01, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
Post by: Casey on August 01, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
Hmm, I'm no expert on alternators, but some observations on that graph. The amps output is very low at low revs, which explains why Clive was finding his race battery was losing charge at idle on extended waits on the gridline. The 2nd observation is the usable range of alternator revs is very narrow to get a decent output. That's not well suited to the rotary with an extended rev range. The last observation is that the alternator output cuts off suddenly at high revs and gives no output. If not geared just right this alternator will not do it's job very well. Is it possible at race revs the alternator has cut out, as per the graph and this has shortened it's life? As I say, I'm no expert and all the above may have been taken into account in gearing the alt to the engine revs, but gearing this unit precisely looks critical.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
At tick over its not charging your right Casey, i noticed that after re-wire. I estimate Clives pulling 60 amps and Clive has bought a Clip on Ammeter to check the running load. It may need pulley size altering for peak RPM...which would further effect low rpm charging.
The failure was a burnt out diode whether thats overload or wear and tear as 3.5 years its been on there is the million dollar question.
Sunday lights and wiper were on additional load. Plus the Fans are on a manual switch which is more load....
Hence the purchase of an ammeter to check the running load.
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The failure was a burnt out diode whether thats overload or wear and tear as 3.5 years its been on there is the million dollar question.
Sunday lights and wiper were on additional load. Plus the Fans are on a manual switch which is more load....
Hence the purchase of an ammeter to check the running load.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 06, 2018, 08:23:54 PM
Post by: clive on August 06, 2018, 08:23:54 PM
Update, Cars now back up and running for Snetterton on Sunday with a repaired altonator.
Diodes were burnt out, more air feed to the back of the alternator has been suggested.
I have not done an amp meter draw test yet Jon but the car seems to be charging higher now on its fast tick over than all season, so I suspect its been dying for a while
Jon here's the diagrams I promised below.
p.s. did the roll bar e-mail get across to you.
Diodes were burnt out, more air feed to the back of the alternator has been suggested.
I have not done an amp meter draw test yet Jon but the car seems to be charging higher now on its fast tick over than all season, so I suspect its been dying for a while
Jon here's the diagrams I promised below.
p.s. did the roll bar e-mail get across to you.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:25:49 PM
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:25:49 PM
Need to send the sd cards back to you mate ill do it wednesday morning.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
Is the batt light now working? Also with the ignition switch bridged...and you using battery isolator to shut off the alternator its shunting the power down through the ground resistor...wondering if this is a causing alternator some grief?...obviously cant put it back in circuit where i put else youll knock it but wondering if worth putting back in elsewhere ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
Ref email...yes mate got it gonna send money paypal thursday...payday lol..been an expensive month what with holidays and insurance if thats ok?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 07, 2018, 09:10:38 AM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2018, 09:10:38 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 06, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
Is the batt light now working? Also with the ignition switch bridged...and you using battery isolator to shut off the alternator its shunting the power down through the ground resistor...wondering if this is a causing alternator some grief?...obviously cant put it back in circuit where i put else youll knock it but wondering if worth putting back in elsewhere ?
Morning,
Don't worry, Battery lamp working OK now and the lamp is wired correctly as per the diagram above.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2018, 09:12:58 AM
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2018, 09:12:58 AM
Cool.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2018, 10:37:42 AM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2018, 10:37:42 AM
Sd cards sent back 1st class today.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2018, 07:12:58 PM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2018, 07:12:58 PM
Thanks Jon :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2018, 10:46:36 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2018, 10:46:36 PM
All set for Snetterton, got my wet dry, wet dry, wet dry, tyres fitted, just like the weather forecast, god knows whats going on with my tyres, so no idea what tyres i'm going to need.
Malcolm's going to be spanner man Sunday :great: or for those who want to follow on TSL have a look at the second page for the time table.
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Timetable-Issue-ONE-11-12.08.18-SN-300.pdf
Malcolm's going to be spanner man Sunday :great: or for those who want to follow on TSL have a look at the second page for the time table.
https://www.trackattackraceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Timetable-Issue-ONE-11-12.08.18-SN-300.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2018, 10:56:28 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2018, 10:56:28 PM
Wets on front, dry on rear...that way only 2 to change !!! P
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2018, 10:58:03 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2018, 10:58:03 PM
Also ive been thinking more on alternator...think best to switch 044 off to kill engine rather than master?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 11, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
Post by: clive on August 11, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 10, 2018, 10:56:28 PM
Wets on front, dry on rear...that way only 2 to change !!! P
Yep, done that one in the past on an uncertain track ;)
For the alternator, we can rewire as turning the pumps means the engine takes a while to stop. But if you thing it would help the alternator somehow I will turn the pumps off then the master under normal circumstances.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 11, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Post by: boosted on August 11, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Longterm need to re-instate the ignition switch you put a permenat link in...flying wires and switch elsewhere that position i put it you hitvit off changing gears remember? ...but it gives the car a natural run down with battery still in circuit. The master is a shutting off everything and the current going down through that shunt resistor connected to master switch so its quite an abrunt way to deal with run out current from the alternator.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 12, 2018, 06:14:30 AM
Post by: boosted on August 12, 2018, 06:14:30 AM
Have fun and good luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
Post by: Casey on August 12, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
I'm sure Clive will post up his usual report, but a few comments and photos from me whilst he's driving home.
After qualifying 7th on the grid, Clive had already climbed to 3rd place in the first race after less than half a lap. There was then an exciting, close race for 3rd/4th/5th place developing when, on the 3rd or 4th lap, Clive was shunted from the rear on braking for Agostini, ending his first race. Amazingly, on examining the car, it seemed there was no really serious damage, so Clive decided to continue into the 2nd race, starting from near the back of the grid (23rd of 26th place). He was climbing steadily through the field, up to 12th place after the first lap, before some issue must have occurred and retired :-[
Not a good day for Clive - the positive note being the car was running really well until the shunt.
Some photos on Flickr here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16924880@N03/albums/72157694306053550
A few of from the collection:
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(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1775/43093376375_b92f064e78_b.jpg)
Just after Tony Hunter, in the white Renault Clio 2000, had run into the back of Clive (see the deranged bodywork :()
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1836/30130810918_009f35a693_b.jpg)
The impact sent Clive's car into a spin:
[(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/928/43950901862_e5345e8031_b.jpg)
After qualifying 7th on the grid, Clive had already climbed to 3rd place in the first race after less than half a lap. There was then an exciting, close race for 3rd/4th/5th place developing when, on the 3rd or 4th lap, Clive was shunted from the rear on braking for Agostini, ending his first race. Amazingly, on examining the car, it seemed there was no really serious damage, so Clive decided to continue into the 2nd race, starting from near the back of the grid (23rd of 26th place). He was climbing steadily through the field, up to 12th place after the first lap, before some issue must have occurred and retired :-[
Not a good day for Clive - the positive note being the car was running really well until the shunt.
Some photos on Flickr here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16924880@N03/albums/72157694306053550
A few of from the collection:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1796/43999404101_323541550c_b.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1833/43950477352_c419201a40_b.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1775/43093376375_b92f064e78_b.jpg)
Just after Tony Hunter, in the white Renault Clio 2000, had run into the back of Clive (see the deranged bodywork :()
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1836/30130810918_009f35a693_b.jpg)
The impact sent Clive's car into a spin:
[(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/928/43950901862_e5345e8031_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2018, 02:55:45 PM
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2018, 02:55:45 PM
Seen the crash vid..2 hits in quick succession..looks like a lunge up inside..followed by a 2nd bigger impact locked up...out of control..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2018, 07:01:05 PM
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2018, 07:01:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqRNMA_nSA
race 1. link.
and front and rear view of crash...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqRNMA_nSA
suffice to say not a happy bunny...think thats the first time ive ever heard Clive swear.
red mist and all that but was defo abit hopeful making that move stick and in the race vid already been on the grass.
race 1. link.
and front and rear view of crash...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqRNMA_nSA
suffice to say not a happy bunny...think thats the first time ive ever heard Clive swear.
red mist and all that but was defo abit hopeful making that move stick and in the race vid already been on the grass.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 15, 2018, 09:25:03 PM
Post by: clive on August 15, 2018, 09:25:03 PM
Beat me to it Jon ;)
Suffice to say the reaction was more shock than anger as this was a guy I had raced many times and had respect for that he would not do anything stupid. You will see from the pictures below that, as I told him " he was overdriving the car" and he should have know better!
You will see my disgust with him as we entered the pits when he received two NASCAR style bumps from me which I planned so the marshals would not see, however I was staggered about the amount of people who did see and came up to me to say, yep he deserved that.
(even his wife tore him off a strip)
As Malcolm knows I called him over and sorted things out ending with a, that's the end of that and we move on. Malcolm came up to Race Control with me and all the clerk of the course wanted to know from me was if I wanted to take things further.
Had I had done this he probably would have had his licence revoked, which would have given me no satisfaction.
This is a enough for now, but tomorrow I will put a post up explaining what I have decided for the future and issues with the car post crash.
Suffice to say the reaction was more shock than anger as this was a guy I had raced many times and had respect for that he would not do anything stupid. You will see from the pictures below that, as I told him " he was overdriving the car" and he should have know better!
You will see my disgust with him as we entered the pits when he received two NASCAR style bumps from me which I planned so the marshals would not see, however I was staggered about the amount of people who did see and came up to me to say, yep he deserved that.
(even his wife tore him off a strip)
As Malcolm knows I called him over and sorted things out ending with a, that's the end of that and we move on. Malcolm came up to Race Control with me and all the clerk of the course wanted to know from me was if I wanted to take things further.
Had I had done this he probably would have had his licence revoked, which would have given me no satisfaction.
This is a enough for now, but tomorrow I will put a post up explaining what I have decided for the future and issues with the car post crash.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 15, 2018, 09:59:35 PM
Post by: clive on August 15, 2018, 09:59:35 PM
Tony got frustrated that I let him go twice going into Murrays knowing I could get him back, you will see the first time he overshot carrying two much speed and then going off, then next time round I just planned it so I came up under him leading on to the straight.
I'm sure this led to the attempt at a BTCC two wheel on the grass with locked up wheels at Agostini , Tony told me he was all locked up but as I said, I didn't shut the door and he knew I would brake earlier than him due to the weight of the RX-8
I'm sure this led to the attempt at a BTCC two wheel on the grass with locked up wheels at Agostini , Tony told me he was all locked up but as I said, I didn't shut the door and he knew I would brake earlier than him due to the weight of the RX-8
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2018, 09:02:47 PM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2018, 09:02:47 PM
Started to review last weekends damage/ issues;
My biggest concern was that the engine would not run after being hit so I at least knew that the shock of the impact had dislodged something.
Checked the connections on the pumps and the only thing found was what appears to be a dislodged pump fuse and as you will see on the pic below, that's never going to happen again! Just hope that was the fault but if it runs a long time on the Dyno then I know its cured.
Shame is, I would have still had a decent result had the engine worked after being hit!!
Stripped the rear bumper off for repair/ paint but the front of the rear wheel arch will take far more work.
The impact onto the exhaust meant the shock travelled though the system and broke the turbo :(
On Monday I decided that I need to get myself out of the situation of keep running with these other four cars if possible, so I have one of two options to stop fighting with these guys every race, go slower or go faster. Takes no working out which option I want to go for ::)
I know the car has lacked initial acceleration due to Turbo lag and that the boost bleeds off when on the straights, which while safe, pulls power out of the engine.
So I am going to use a different Turbo configuration and dump the Garrett GT40 and go for a different Turbo set up.
Working with AET turbo's and Pip at WGT, who has spent a lot of time overlaying my map against other maps to work out between us what Turbo I need to get the car performing better :13:
Outcome is that I am having a custom Borg Warner SX300 turbo built, then plumb the wastegate directly into the Adaptronic ECU to let Pip control the duration of the wastegate, which will hopefully give me much more power low down giving better initial acceleration taking me out of the clutches of these smaller lighter cars (hopefully).
I also still cant get the car to turn in how I need it to so after talking to Tein, I will up the spring poundage on the back.
Hopefully next week I can look at bolting the new Turbo then up to Pip at WGT to get the mapping sorted.
Deadline is five weeks to Donnington when the car "should" look back to its old self and be faster as its new self
My biggest concern was that the engine would not run after being hit so I at least knew that the shock of the impact had dislodged something.
Checked the connections on the pumps and the only thing found was what appears to be a dislodged pump fuse and as you will see on the pic below, that's never going to happen again! Just hope that was the fault but if it runs a long time on the Dyno then I know its cured.
Shame is, I would have still had a decent result had the engine worked after being hit!!
Stripped the rear bumper off for repair/ paint but the front of the rear wheel arch will take far more work.
The impact onto the exhaust meant the shock travelled though the system and broke the turbo :(
On Monday I decided that I need to get myself out of the situation of keep running with these other four cars if possible, so I have one of two options to stop fighting with these guys every race, go slower or go faster. Takes no working out which option I want to go for ::)
I know the car has lacked initial acceleration due to Turbo lag and that the boost bleeds off when on the straights, which while safe, pulls power out of the engine.
So I am going to use a different Turbo configuration and dump the Garrett GT40 and go for a different Turbo set up.
Working with AET turbo's and Pip at WGT, who has spent a lot of time overlaying my map against other maps to work out between us what Turbo I need to get the car performing better :13:
Outcome is that I am having a custom Borg Warner SX300 turbo built, then plumb the wastegate directly into the Adaptronic ECU to let Pip control the duration of the wastegate, which will hopefully give me much more power low down giving better initial acceleration taking me out of the clutches of these smaller lighter cars (hopefully).
I also still cant get the car to turn in how I need it to so after talking to Tein, I will up the spring poundage on the back.
Hopefully next week I can look at bolting the new Turbo then up to Pip at WGT to get the mapping sorted.
Deadline is five weeks to Donnington when the car "should" look back to its old self and be faster as its new self
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 18, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 18, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
Here you go, Race 2 with commentary. Sorry for the delay in posting it everyone, it takes a bit of time editing these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYR33QRoCMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYR33QRoCMk
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2018, 09:06:07 PM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2018, 09:06:07 PM
Huge thanks Philip, really appreciate all the time you spend putting these together
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Hi Philip i left Silverstone vids on cards...they need your magic...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 18, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 18, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: clive on August 18, 2018, 09:06:07 PM
Huge thanks Philip, really appreciate all the time you spend putting these together
No problem Clive. John, Thank you yes I found these with amusing file names (qualify stevie wonder) lol
I will get the Silverstone one done as soon as I can. Shame no commentary unless someone else has it?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:46:52 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:46:52 PM
No sorry, i was there so took the cards home with me.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2018, 10:01:49 AM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2018, 10:01:49 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5pcs-Standard-Blade-Inline-Fuse-Holder-Splash-Proof-DC-12V-Fuses-For-Car-Bike-IF/123217949240?hash=item1cb05cb238:g:aYcAAOSwgu9bNFys
Hi Clive, see the piccy attached where you can see inside this type of fuse holder, is it possible 1 of fuse blades went down the side of crimp instead of init? you have a circuit but a poor connection.I did this when installing and it felt funny im wondering if been pulled since and not seated right, impact should not have affected it?? you have 2 of these coils and 044....thinking reliability changing for dash mounted Circuit breakers like Tonys got?
Hi Clive, see the piccy attached where you can see inside this type of fuse holder, is it possible 1 of fuse blades went down the side of crimp instead of init? you have a circuit but a poor connection.I did this when installing and it felt funny im wondering if been pulled since and not seated right, impact should not have affected it?? you have 2 of these coils and 044....thinking reliability changing for dash mounted Circuit breakers like Tonys got?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 20, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Post by: clive on August 20, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
Hmmm, it is possible the blade went down the wrong side, but I don't think so, the fuse was very loose though, never going to come out now though.
My new MAC solenoid has arrived so we should have better waste gate control.
Just got to work out the plumbing to use the ECU in the system.
My new MAC solenoid has arrived so we should have better waste gate control.
Just got to work out the plumbing to use the ECU in the system.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:43:33 AM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:43:33 AM
When and where is next race ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 20, 2018, 12:13:09 PM
Post by: clive on August 20, 2018, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:43:33 AM
When and where is next race ?
donnington 29th september
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 20, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
Post by: Casey on August 20, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
Thank you Philip for putting the commentary on the Race 2 video. Despite Clive's bad luck, it was great to hear the enthusiasm of the commentator for Clive's car. Nice to hear positive stuff about the rotary over the tannoy!
I really appreciate the time you've taken to put the video together to make it available on here :icon_thumleft:
I really appreciate the time you've taken to put the video together to make it available on here :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2018, 11:03:57 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2018, 11:03:57 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 20, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
Thank you Philip for putting the commentary on the Race 2 video. Despite Clive's bad luck, it was great to hear the enthusiasm of the commentator for Clive's car. Nice to hear positive stuff about the rotary over the tannoy!
I really appreciate the time you've taken to put the video together to make it available on here :icon_thumleft:
Hello Malcolm, thank you for your kind words. Having 2 cameras is bad enough editing wise without adding the commentary ;) It does make viewing more interesting which is why I do it for all you guys to enjoy. As you say the commentator has lots of enthusiasm for Clive's car and loves mentioning the fact that it is rotary which is great to hear :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Hi Philip i left Silverstone vids on cards...they need your magic...
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Magic has been worked John, please see link to Silverstone Race 1 https://youtu.be/kSaYJKdx6VU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: clive on August 20, 2018, 12:13:09 PMA non working weekend and not too far..ill see nearer the time but reckon i can make it.0Quote from: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:43:33 AM
When and where is next race ?
donnington 29th september
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:11:47 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2018, 11:11:47 PM
Brill ill have a look on tea break later.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 21, 2018, 12:33:17 AM
Post by: Casey on August 21, 2018, 12:33:17 AM
Quote from: Prototype on August 20, 2018, 11:06:00 PMNice driving in atrocious track conditions!Quote from: boosted on August 18, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Hi Philip i left Silverstone vids on cards...they need your magic...
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Magic has been worked John, please see link to Silverstone Race 1 https://youtu.be/kSaYJKdx6VU
Having driven Silverstone in the wet last year on a trackday I found it to be one of the worst circuits for getting any grip in the corners :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2018, 06:03:04 AM
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2018, 06:03:04 AM
Great launch from the start. But seems like impossible to gain ground cause there are million Hondas around and blocking your way :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 22, 2018, 08:42:50 AM
Post by: clive on August 22, 2018, 08:42:50 AM
Fitted new Tein 10Kilo springs on the back of the car yesterday, up from 7Kilo to try and help turn in which will maybe also let me brake later into corners.
Trying something unconventional with 10K on the front and the back because of finding after weighing that the car has just about 50/50 weight distribution.
After talking to Philip yesterday I found that he realised that at Silverstone and Snetterton in all three races the car cut out in an identical manner.
Philips observation has taken me down a different path and made me realise that the Bosch 044 is probably at fault, so today I am sending the pump and fuel regulator back for analysis.
If they cant find any thing obvious they are going to cut the pump open for a full inspection.
This makes sense, as on each occasion the car carried on running enough to get it back to the pits, possibly indicating that the primary lift pump was still operating. Either way it will get a new 044 fitted.
Trying something unconventional with 10K on the front and the back because of finding after weighing that the car has just about 50/50 weight distribution.
After talking to Philip yesterday I found that he realised that at Silverstone and Snetterton in all three races the car cut out in an identical manner.
Philips observation has taken me down a different path and made me realise that the Bosch 044 is probably at fault, so today I am sending the pump and fuel regulator back for analysis.
If they cant find any thing obvious they are going to cut the pump open for a full inspection.
This makes sense, as on each occasion the car carried on running enough to get it back to the pits, possibly indicating that the primary lift pump was still operating. Either way it will get a new 044 fitted.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 22, 2018, 06:56:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 22, 2018, 06:56:41 PM
BWs300..... got one in the garage
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 23, 2018, 07:58:31 PM
Post by: clive on August 23, 2018, 07:58:31 PM
Thanks to Philip's detective work via the videos, the problem that has cost me the last three races has been found :13:.
I sent the 044 and the regulator away for testing, no problems with the regulator but I have had the diaphragm renewed, BUT.
With the 044 on a test rig, it ran for around three minutes each time and stopped!! ( a lap at Snetterton is just over three minutes)
They then cut the pump open to find loads of metal swarf, which is obviously the culprit.
Even though I filter my fuel though a funnel it could be from my cans, or the stock Mazda pump assembly has eaten itself.
New Bosch 044, 12mm in line filter and a new pump/ pot assembly is on its way from Mazda as I cant trust that the filter is not blocked in the pot assembly :-[
Talking to Philip tonight, explaining how at the weekend I need to go magnet fishing in the tanks, he came up with the brilliant idea of leaving a magnet in the tank to catch any other metal swarf that's floating about , so I will actually strap a magnet in each tank.
Hopefully I can get the fuel system cleaned, sorted and back together this weekend and when the new Turbo arrives get the V band adapted onto the back and have the car up n running for next weekend, then off up to see Pip for a new map========== I so hope all this makes the car quicker ::)
I sent the 044 and the regulator away for testing, no problems with the regulator but I have had the diaphragm renewed, BUT.
With the 044 on a test rig, it ran for around three minutes each time and stopped!! ( a lap at Snetterton is just over three minutes)
They then cut the pump open to find loads of metal swarf, which is obviously the culprit.
Even though I filter my fuel though a funnel it could be from my cans, or the stock Mazda pump assembly has eaten itself.
New Bosch 044, 12mm in line filter and a new pump/ pot assembly is on its way from Mazda as I cant trust that the filter is not blocked in the pot assembly :-[
Talking to Philip tonight, explaining how at the weekend I need to go magnet fishing in the tanks, he came up with the brilliant idea of leaving a magnet in the tank to catch any other metal swarf that's floating about , so I will actually strap a magnet in each tank.
Hopefully I can get the fuel system cleaned, sorted and back together this weekend and when the new Turbo arrives get the V band adapted onto the back and have the car up n running for next weekend, then off up to see Pip for a new map========== I so hope all this makes the car quicker ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 23, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
Post by: boosted on August 23, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
Result! I was worried about a loose connection in my loom!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on August 24, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on August 24, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
got some powerful magnets but small with a hole in so you could put some line or thread through so you can go fishing I will send you some if you want mate,,,,,,, :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 24, 2018, 07:54:17 PM
Post by: clive on August 24, 2018, 07:54:17 PM
Thanks for the offer Tony,
I will strip everything out the tanks tomorrow, I have the strong strip magnets out of the steering rack and will use these if I can fix them to the side of the pots to lure anything metal in the tank. If these are no good I will keep your offer in mind.
New pump pot arrived from Mazda today and a new Bosch 044 plus a new bullet filter to fit between the swirl pot and the 044.
I will strip everything out the tanks tomorrow, I have the strong strip magnets out of the steering rack and will use these if I can fix them to the side of the pots to lure anything metal in the tank. If these are no good I will keep your offer in mind.
New pump pot arrived from Mazda today and a new Bosch 044 plus a new bullet filter to fit between the swirl pot and the 044.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on August 24, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on August 24, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
No problems got a stack of them :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
Do you know what the specs are on the new turbo? I know they have a 72mm available now, billet wheels etc. Is a journal bearing turbo or are you going for an EFR with the dual ceramic ball bearings??
This EFRs are making rotaries produce great torque curves btw, more area under the curve as they say
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
Do you know what the specs are on the new turbo? I know they have a 72mm available now, billet wheels etc. Is a journal bearing turbo or are you going for an EFR with the dual ceramic ball bearings??
This EFRs are making rotaries produce great torque curves btw, more area under the curve as they say
Don't know what the spec is as yet, Pip and the owner of AET have been bat and balling about the spec and I know they have changed the wheel on the back and gone for a non conventional housing at the last minute. Pip has been overlaying my mapp against others as he is trying very hard to give me much lower bottom end good middle without losing too much if any from the top end.
It's great that Pip has actually had an interest in the car and we have talked after most races over the last year or so. At the end of the day if this turbo delivers and I go faster, I'm not too interested in the spec ;).
I am also plumbing the wastegate back into the Adaptronic ECU so he can map wategate duration, this is somthing he has wanted to do for ages.
Everything is coming along, I revamped the fuel system today, fitting the new Mazda pump assembly, new 044 and a monster filter to catch anything left in the tank.
From what I found, I now believe my fuel metal halfords fuel cans have been the culprit, so I now need to find some good size plastic cans. I waved a big magnet around and found some fine metal, almost like powder. Even though I filter my fuel the mesh would not have been fine enough to catch this stuff.
Just waiting for my mate Steve to machine the housing for the V band then I will have Brise weld it on and then I should have the car up n running and off up to Pip's for a new map.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2018, 08:14:01 PM
Post by: boosted on August 25, 2018, 08:14:01 PM
I can get you all the 20L cans you want from my work....Hpde grade plastic same as garage 5l jobbies...so dont melt...we get chemicals in them..i use 2 i properly hi pressure hose flushed them out..
If you want any just ask.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 25, 2018, 08:52:49 PM
Post by: clive on August 25, 2018, 08:52:49 PM
Arrrgggg, thanks Jon, BUT ------------------literally 2 minutes ago I bought these 5 20L cans off ebay :( ( Could do with two more though for the extra long races I sometimes do though thank you.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 31, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
Post by: clive on August 31, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
Well we are getting there, close enough to call Pip tomorrow to arrange mapping hopefully next Friday if he can fit me in.
The big challenge became getting the back of the Turbo cut off at the correct angle then getting the V band adaptor welded back on in the right place.
All fits now and bolted up 100%, but the feed for the oil pipe was wrong despite AET thinking it was the same :(, so I cant actually fire the car till Tuesday or Wednesday when I can get an adaptor as it turns out its a pig thread that hose fitting company's locally have never heard of ???
The big challenge became getting the back of the Turbo cut off at the correct angle then getting the V band adaptor welded back on in the right place.
All fits now and bolted up 100%, but the feed for the oil pipe was wrong despite AET thinking it was the same :(, so I cant actually fire the car till Tuesday or Wednesday when I can get an adaptor as it turns out its a pig thread that hose fitting company's locally have never heard of ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 01, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
Post by: Casey on September 01, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
Ooooooh, shiney 8) Looks good and pleased to hear you're making good progress - except for the weird screw thread issue holding things up - there had to be something to spoil the party ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
Nice welding...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 01, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
Post by: clive on September 01, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
Sadly not only waiting for the weird oil union but after speaking to Pip today I also cant get the car mapped till at least the week after next.
Christine cant go to the ball just yet as Pip is off to Denmark to mapp cars next week, something that's becoming more and more regular out in Europe for him.
Looking back, the reluctant Christine during her early adolescent kept throwing hissy fits till the mapping was sorted !, then set herself alight!, then embarked on various pirouettes until we found one of her back legs was out of line, also getting attacked along the way by an MR2, a Civic and lastly a Clio!, then over the last three races, tried to choke to death with a blocked fuel system !!!!!!! but we are both still out there fighting >:D.
Christine cant go to the ball just yet as Pip is off to Denmark to mapp cars next week, something that's becoming more and more regular out in Europe for him.
Looking back, the reluctant Christine during her early adolescent kept throwing hissy fits till the mapping was sorted !, then set herself alight!, then embarked on various pirouettes until we found one of her back legs was out of line, also getting attacked along the way by an MR2, a Civic and lastly a Clio!, then over the last three races, tried to choke to death with a blocked fuel system !!!!!!! but we are both still out there fighting >:D.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2018, 07:50:50 PM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2018, 07:50:50 PM
And a Race Win!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 01, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Post by: clive on September 01, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 01, 2018, 07:50:50 PM
And a Race Win!
Christine obviously forgets herself at Brands, as a Pole Position and a Race Win has been produced ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 20, 2018, 09:37:01 PM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2018, 09:37:01 PM
Been a painful few weeks with "Christeen" who has proved to be as recalcitrant as ever!,
With new Turbo, new Mazda pump assembly and a new Bosch 044 up at WGT I should have been on the Dyno for like an hour for just a cleanup of the map, really just to program the ECU to accept the new Turbo----------------Wrong, as I was not allowing for a Christeen hissy fit :angryfire:
After initially building a new base map, as soon as Pip started seriously mapping he found that at just 6000 revs the injectors had run out of fuel and were working flat out at 98% duty.
Last Wednesday I spent something like seven hours working with Pip before the long drive home with both of us logically thinking "it must be the fuel system"
Just before I left we found a trailing plug not firing but I knew this wasn't the fault.
With lots of investigative work and three and a half days working on the car the car is now mapped finally, so much for we only need an hour to get a quick remap.
Turns out the the injector wiring had corroded and was found to be green as soon as the covering was bared back there was the fault, the ECU was unable to give the injectors the correct information and was giving false positives, something Pip or myself had never seen before.
Turned out the coil wiring had gone the same way so the car now has a fresh engine loom.
As soon as this was sorted the injectors went from 98% duty cycle straight down to just 65% and was able to be remapped and you can see the fresh dyno sheet below, with still more to come as Pip wants me to plumb the wastegate completely differently and have another visit over the winter.
Bottom line is, had I just put the new pumps on and tried to race the engine would have gone bang and although lots of work and money has been spent I still have a good engine and can go and race at Donnington next Saturday :)
Loads to do over the next week with no front or rear on the car plus I need to strip all the suspension again its now going to be a push to get the car ready after losing it for the last week up at Pips,
Its only Pips mapping skill that has kept me from a grenaded engine 8) and I now have an engine that has more mid range, holds boost and has more low down power which was the object of the exercise, so looking forward to how it now performs on track . :13:
Pip will also be attending next week for support.
With new Turbo, new Mazda pump assembly and a new Bosch 044 up at WGT I should have been on the Dyno for like an hour for just a cleanup of the map, really just to program the ECU to accept the new Turbo----------------Wrong, as I was not allowing for a Christeen hissy fit :angryfire:
After initially building a new base map, as soon as Pip started seriously mapping he found that at just 6000 revs the injectors had run out of fuel and were working flat out at 98% duty.
Last Wednesday I spent something like seven hours working with Pip before the long drive home with both of us logically thinking "it must be the fuel system"
Just before I left we found a trailing plug not firing but I knew this wasn't the fault.
With lots of investigative work and three and a half days working on the car the car is now mapped finally, so much for we only need an hour to get a quick remap.
Turns out the the injector wiring had corroded and was found to be green as soon as the covering was bared back there was the fault, the ECU was unable to give the injectors the correct information and was giving false positives, something Pip or myself had never seen before.
Turned out the coil wiring had gone the same way so the car now has a fresh engine loom.
As soon as this was sorted the injectors went from 98% duty cycle straight down to just 65% and was able to be remapped and you can see the fresh dyno sheet below, with still more to come as Pip wants me to plumb the wastegate completely differently and have another visit over the winter.
Bottom line is, had I just put the new pumps on and tried to race the engine would have gone bang and although lots of work and money has been spent I still have a good engine and can go and race at Donnington next Saturday :)
Loads to do over the next week with no front or rear on the car plus I need to strip all the suspension again its now going to be a push to get the car ready after losing it for the last week up at Pips,
Its only Pips mapping skill that has kept me from a grenaded engine 8) and I now have an engine that has more mid range, holds boost and has more low down power which was the object of the exercise, so looking forward to how it now performs on track . :13:
Pip will also be attending next week for support.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 20, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
Post by: boosted on September 20, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
Oh wow...at the injector plugs or the join Clive..
I lengthened the loom, where those connections ok..they were only done what 6 months ago?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 20, 2018, 10:34:08 PM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2018, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 20, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
Oh wow...at the injector plugs or the join Clive..
I lengthened the loom, where those connections ok..they were only done what 6 months ago?
I was all the stock wiring gone bad Jon, not anything you did.
Looks like I just picked a bad loom last time it was changed.
Mind you I can see RX-8's having issues with coil and injector power.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2018, 01:24:08 PM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2018, 01:24:08 PM
This gives an idea of how bad the stock wiring was -----------green meany :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
Not good..bad orrible connections..thats gone bad pretty quick i dont remember them being like that..is it damp in your lock up?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2018, 01:39:20 PM
Or was from the heavy rain at Silverstone?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Nope garage is nice and dry so no idea how this all got like it to cause so much grief, time and money. :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Great to see you work out the kinks, I guess racing wouldn’t be as fun if you didn’t have to fix/improve your car and then really enjoy the actual racing part of it.
What’s the new dunk graph look like versus the old one?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2018, 07:07:32 AM
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2018, 07:07:32 AM
Quote from: clive on September 21, 2018, 09:17:12 PMIve noticed with mine when changing engines the wiring plugs seals are rubbish they go all soft and loose. Mine played up after in got and absolute soaking on the trailer on the way back from a trackday...
Nope garage is nice and dry so no idea how this all got like it to cause so much grief, time and money. :(
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Post by: kev-yorks on September 22, 2018, 11:37:50 AM
Post by: kev-yorks on September 22, 2018, 11:37:50 AM
By default when working on electrics I add a liberal coating of dialectic grease to any connectors I'm working on, it stops corrosion issues in there tracks and as a bonus makes future disconnecting / reconnecting easier.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Thanks Kev, I will get some and unplug the connectors and give them a smear.
Grant, haven't overlay'ed sheets, I'll find out if I have better low and mid range next week on the Donnington track dyno by the seat of my pants ;)
Changed all the springs yesterday for 12Kilo Fronts and 10Kilo for the rear plus new rear pads which uncovered that my two piece discs had cracks so I renewed the rotor rings.
Pushed out the wheel arch damage which was worse than it looks in the picture so that needs some plod to get a bit of shape back plus my mate Steve will spray the bumper Monday after sorting our the damage to that yesterday.
God I need a sponsor, Christeen has cost a fortune over the last few weeks-------taking away the damage from the last race, what's the saying, "speed costs" ;)
Grant, haven't overlay'ed sheets, I'll find out if I have better low and mid range next week on the Donnington track dyno by the seat of my pants ;)
Changed all the springs yesterday for 12Kilo Fronts and 10Kilo for the rear plus new rear pads which uncovered that my two piece discs had cracks so I renewed the rotor rings.
Pushed out the wheel arch damage which was worse than it looks in the picture so that needs some plod to get a bit of shape back plus my mate Steve will spray the bumper Monday after sorting our the damage to that yesterday.
God I need a sponsor, Christeen has cost a fortune over the last few weeks-------taking away the damage from the last race, what's the saying, "speed costs" ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 26, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
Just about ready for Donnington on Saturday, hopefully I will get a chance to see some of the other racing as the event has a really interesting program.
For anyone coming along, my qualifying will be at 10.20 / First Race 13.40 Second Race 16.45
Here's the whole race program timetable attached below on a PDF
For anyone coming along, my qualifying will be at 10.20 / First Race 13.40 Second Race 16.45
Here's the whole race program timetable attached below on a PDF
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on September 27, 2018, 08:39:17 AM
Post by: rote8 on September 27, 2018, 08:39:17 AM
Here's hoping the recent mods bear fruit :sign0098:. Good Luck, wish I could be there to see you trounce the opposition :laughing7:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2018, 02:04:47 PM
Post by: Casey on September 27, 2018, 02:04:47 PM
Good luck at Donington Clive :13:
Sorry I can't be there as we have a Colchester Utd home match on Saturday ;)
Sorry I can't be there as we have a Colchester Utd home match on Saturday ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Lisa on September 27, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
Post by: Lisa on September 27, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
You can follow it live on Saturday https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/183921 :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 07:43:49 AM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 07:43:49 AM
Good luck and have fun.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Woohoo! Pole postion.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:44:40 AM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:44:40 AM
My bad tsl said red flag..Clive had Pole..then it updated after in 3rd position...strange.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 29, 2018, 10:48:16 AM
Post by: Casey on September 29, 2018, 10:48:16 AM
Watching qualification on TSL - just finished. Clive managed a 1:20.33 after 4 laps but then there was a red flag (hoping Clive wasn't involved) and he didn't resume on track after the session resumed. Clive was on Pole after the 4 laps, but slipped to 3rd by the end of the session, as other cars managed to put in 8-9 laps and some improved their times.
Odd that the Pole sitter, a subaru, put in a 1:17.977 in only 2 laps, but has an exclamation mark by his entry? Not sure what that means?
Odd that the Pole sitter, a subaru, put in a 1:17.977 in only 2 laps, but has an exclamation mark by his entry? Not sure what that means?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:56:31 AM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 10:56:31 AM
Ok i carried on with hoovering at red flag..didnt realise it restarted...Clive will have todo 1 of his famous starts!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 02:07:27 PM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2018, 02:07:27 PM
Woohoo...race win...got no finger nails left!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 29, 2018, 02:16:32 PM
Post by: Casey on September 29, 2018, 02:16:32 PM
Brilliant :13:
I wasn't able to get to listen on TSL, so great to hear the news, well done Clive :)
I wasn't able to get to listen on TSL, so great to hear the news, well done Clive :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 29, 2018, 11:07:02 PM
Post by: clive on September 29, 2018, 11:07:02 PM
Donnington started not so good and ended not so good (but wasn't bad in the middle ;D).
In qualifyingy an alternator wire broke after 4 laps but come the race with a 35 car grid,` after a battle that lasted the whole race I won the Autumn Trophy :13
Started on pole for the second race an fried the clutch off the line, game over !
Car is better with the new Turbo but wasn't as quick as I expected but then, the mapping still isn't quite finished so there's still more to come :)
Down to 1.19's so 2 seconds a lap quicker than last years time.
Yes its been an up and down year but the cars had 2 outright wins, 2 poles and won 6 trophy's so not a bad year and best of all without qualifying, a Sprint at Goodwood plus trackdays the engines now done some 27 races without a rebuild across three seasons a feat a lot of the piston racers would love to emulate, who says Rotaries are unreliable :13:
In qualifyingy an alternator wire broke after 4 laps but come the race with a 35 car grid,` after a battle that lasted the whole race I won the Autumn Trophy :13
Started on pole for the second race an fried the clutch off the line, game over !
Car is better with the new Turbo but wasn't as quick as I expected but then, the mapping still isn't quite finished so there's still more to come :)
Down to 1.19's so 2 seconds a lap quicker than last years time.
Yes its been an up and down year but the cars had 2 outright wins, 2 poles and won 6 trophy's so not a bad year and best of all without qualifying, a Sprint at Goodwood plus trackdays the engines now done some 27 races without a rebuild across three seasons a feat a lot of the piston racers would love to emulate, who says Rotaries are unreliable :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 30, 2018, 12:20:17 AM
Post by: Casey on September 30, 2018, 12:20:17 AM
Well done Clive, shame about the fried clutch, but really great to see the win in the first race :13:.
Not a bad year overall, especially considering the setbacks you suffered.
The car is clearly now very competitive with, as you say, more to come :)
Not a bad year overall, especially considering the setbacks you suffered.
The car is clearly now very competitive with, as you say, more to come :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2018, 09:55:22 AM
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2018, 09:55:22 AM
Yep welldone! Christine is a reluctant winner to say the least!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 30, 2018, 10:53:54 AM
Post by: clive on September 30, 2018, 10:53:54 AM
many thanks,
Here's a couple more from yesterday,
Still work to do. Pip wants me to pipe the wastegate differently so he can finish the map.
The downpie / turbo V band set up is not sealing properly and the fumes in the car were terrible yesterday so I need to cut the back of the turbo off again and convert over to two of the thick cast stainless steel racing beat 3" flanges seen below, probably going to be a week or so before I can get it back into my friends shop to start work again.
Here's a couple more from yesterday,
Still work to do. Pip wants me to pipe the wastegate differently so he can finish the map.
The downpie / turbo V band set up is not sealing properly and the fumes in the car were terrible yesterday so I need to cut the back of the turbo off again and convert over to two of the thick cast stainless steel racing beat 3" flanges seen below, probably going to be a week or so before I can get it back into my friends shop to start work again.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
Hopefully Philip recorded commentary for you to have a listen ..was quite inaccurate at points but they redeemed themselves.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 30, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Post by: clive on September 30, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 30, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
Hopefully Philip recorded commentary for you to have a listen ..was quite inaccurate at points but they redeemed themselves.
I will try and get the camera cards up to Philip tomorrow.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 12:32:55 AM
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 12:32:55 AM
Quote from: boosted on September 30, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
Hopefully Philip recorded commentary for you to have a listen ..was quite inaccurate at points but they redeemed themselves.
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Yes I got everything. Just finished editing Race 1, watch to the end as I got the interviews too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXBodAB90s
Hopefully will do Race 2 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 02, 2018, 09:39:03 AM
Post by: re japi on October 02, 2018, 09:39:03 AM
Good job Sir! Car is finally showing its true potential even tho shes fighting back ;) :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Well done again Philip, overlaying the commentary and cutting between the front and rear cameras made for very enjoyable viewing :13:
Congrats again Clive, great racing with the Renault so close behind and nipping at your heels!
Congrats again Clive, great racing with the Renault so close behind and nipping at your heels!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 02, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Well done again Philip, overlaying the commentary and cutting between the front and rear cameras made for very enjoyable viewing :13:
Congrats again Clive, great racing with the Renault so close behind and nipping at your heels!
No problem Malcolm, I'm glad you enjoyed it. The commentary just adds that extra spice especially when Clive is winning ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2018, 08:30:46 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2018, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 02, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Congrats again Clive, great racing with the Renault so close behind and nipping at your heels!
Thanks Malcolm and Jarno,
Still wasn't at all happy with the car as its still struggling with turn in. I put the rear shocks up two clicks and immediately found more speed even with a bad clutch. (Philip pointed out I was straight in the 1.19's)
I know now I should have put two pounds in the rears and that would have helped, next time I may actually find some speed this way ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2018, 09:24:15 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2018, 09:24:15 PM
OK, I have a conundrum, i need to have slightly longer gears in 3rd and 4th.
So if I change my final drive gear ratio from 4.4 to 4.3 how many revs will I gain, i'm guessing around 500 RPM , anyone ??
So if I change my final drive gear ratio from 4.4 to 4.3 how many revs will I gain, i'm guessing around 500 RPM , anyone ??
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 10:56:24 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 02, 2018, 10:56:24 PM
Here you go, this is race 2
https://youtu.be/TDN3C4P5aM4
https://youtu.be/TDN3C4P5aM4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 03, 2018, 06:05:00 AM
Post by: re japi on October 03, 2018, 06:05:00 AM
I really like Philip's vids. Good job
That clutch really took a beating at launch. But good start tho... Car sounds amazing
That Renault is really fast, even in that fast track...
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That clutch really took a beating at launch. But good start tho... Car sounds amazing
That Renault is really fast, even in that fast track...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: adamgaltress on October 03, 2018, 11:01:52 AM
Post by: adamgaltress on October 03, 2018, 11:01:52 AM
Great job editing these videos. A shame about the clutch Clive
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 03, 2018, 12:08:05 PM
Post by: boosted on October 03, 2018, 12:08:05 PM
Yes thankyou Philip your efforts are well appreciated makes it so much better to watch.
Real shame race 2, double win next year!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
Post by: Casey on October 03, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
Another fascinating video, thanks again Philip :great:
Shame to see Clive have to retire, hopefully better luck next time. Overall though, with a win in the bag, a good day :sign0098:
Shame to see Clive have to retire, hopefully better luck next time. Overall though, with a win in the bag, a good day :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 04, 2018, 10:59:49 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 04, 2018, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 03, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
Another fascinating video, thanks again Philip :great:
Shame to see Clive have to retire, hopefully better luck next time. Overall though, with a win in the bag, a good day :sign0098:
No problem, glad you all enjoyed them :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Taken the plunge and will be entering the last round of the Thunder Saloon Car Championship October on 27th/28th Brands Hatch (Televised) with the RX-8.
Tony Gilham the owner of BTCC Team Hard is kindly donating a set of Dunlop slicks as I am interested in seeing how the car will perform.
Need to fit a new clutch this week then off for more mapping by Pip at WGT next Saturday morning to find even more mid and low range power. Then the following week I need to convert my Kazz diff to a 4.3 ratio as this will give me more legs in 3rd and 4th plus a longer 1st is going to help off the line.
Lots and lots of money being spent in this series and whilst I'm really pleased they have all welcomed me with open arms, because I'm Rotary and Turbo they have put me in the top 2wd class and I'm up against real quick expensive cars like you can see in the pictures, big ex-works V8 Aussie touring cars, turbo cossys ex BTCC cars etc. The Mustang you see below turned up last week backed by a full blown race team in a fairly new ex formula one artic, wow these guys are spending serious money!
Going to be tough against this type of big money grid, just hope the RX-8 will be quick enough with some decent grip to uphold Rotary Honour ;)
Tony Gilham the owner of BTCC Team Hard is kindly donating a set of Dunlop slicks as I am interested in seeing how the car will perform.
Need to fit a new clutch this week then off for more mapping by Pip at WGT next Saturday morning to find even more mid and low range power. Then the following week I need to convert my Kazz diff to a 4.3 ratio as this will give me more legs in 3rd and 4th plus a longer 1st is going to help off the line.
Lots and lots of money being spent in this series and whilst I'm really pleased they have all welcomed me with open arms, because I'm Rotary and Turbo they have put me in the top 2wd class and I'm up against real quick expensive cars like you can see in the pictures, big ex-works V8 Aussie touring cars, turbo cossys ex BTCC cars etc. The Mustang you see below turned up last week backed by a full blown race team in a fairly new ex formula one artic, wow these guys are spending serious money!
Going to be tough against this type of big money grid, just hope the RX-8 will be quick enough with some decent grip to uphold Rotary Honour ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 06, 2018, 06:45:14 PM
Post by: boosted on October 06, 2018, 06:45:14 PM
Wow...big boys...slicks...that return to sump oil catch can will defo get some action. Is it sat or sun or both?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 06, 2018, 06:45:14 PM
Wow...big boys...slicks...that return to sump oil catch can will defo get some action. Is it sat or sun or both?
They list it as two days so I wonder if its qualifying on Sat then race on Sunday.
I payed a club joining fee last night so hopefully I will know the format soon.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 06, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Post by: Casey on October 06, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Wow, that's some serious competition! Can't make the Saturday, but should be able to make the Sunday if you need some support :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
Post by: clive on October 06, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
Thanks Malcolm,
I posted this up in response to a question on the RX8OC and yes I know this will be a big ask to be competitive, but I'm going to try ;)
They have put me in the Thunder Saloon A2 class which is 2 wheel drive 4000 cc and upwards :
Lap record in this class was by a 2wd Skyline with a 50 second lap back in 2015
Started looking at lap times and earlier in the year when the car won at Brands I was doing consistent 54 second laps, so with the developments I've made plus the new turbo, different gearing and slicks rather than treaded tyres it looks like "if" I can find even 2 seconds a lap I shouldn't make a fool of myself and 3 seconds would make me real competitive, Its already been commented on their facebook page that they feel the car will be competitive from what they have seen already----------- lets hope they are right
I posted this up in response to a question on the RX8OC and yes I know this will be a big ask to be competitive, but I'm going to try ;)
They have put me in the Thunder Saloon A2 class which is 2 wheel drive 4000 cc and upwards :
Lap record in this class was by a 2wd Skyline with a 50 second lap back in 2015
Started looking at lap times and earlier in the year when the car won at Brands I was doing consistent 54 second laps, so with the developments I've made plus the new turbo, different gearing and slicks rather than treaded tyres it looks like "if" I can find even 2 seconds a lap I shouldn't make a fool of myself and 3 seconds would make me real competitive, Its already been commented on their facebook page that they feel the car will be competitive from what they have seen already----------- lets hope they are right
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 06, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
Post by: boosted on October 06, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
Ill try an make it Clive not working that weekend. Have to see nearer the time as you know up and down atmo.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Christine struck again today :-[, but we sort of foiled her (a bit) :D
Another 400 mile round trip up to Pip's (WGT) to try and finish the map.
Pip had me re-pipe the wastegate incorporating a MAC 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid which when connected into the Adaptronic would have allowed the wastgate to be programmed how Pip wanted and guess what, Christine stepped in "again" after messing about for an hour a stethoscope revealed that it just clicked on an off once when activated, but it should have been clicking all the time. This indicated my new solenoid was no good!
Fortunately I still had my Turbosmart Boost controller still installed so it was just a matter of re-piping and having another re-map.
Not all was lost as We still got some more boost into it and at still only around a bar of boost we now have 470 BHP but more importantly I have quite a bit more power at the bottom end which should let me pull the higher 4.3 diff ratio and also have more top end speed as I am revving out on just about all the straights (only managed 148 on the straight at Coombe with the lower diff :)) .
Another 400 mile round trip up to Pip's (WGT) to try and finish the map.
Pip had me re-pipe the wastegate incorporating a MAC 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid which when connected into the Adaptronic would have allowed the wastgate to be programmed how Pip wanted and guess what, Christine stepped in "again" after messing about for an hour a stethoscope revealed that it just clicked on an off once when activated, but it should have been clicking all the time. This indicated my new solenoid was no good!
Fortunately I still had my Turbosmart Boost controller still installed so it was just a matter of re-piping and having another re-map.
Not all was lost as We still got some more boost into it and at still only around a bar of boost we now have 470 BHP but more importantly I have quite a bit more power at the bottom end which should let me pull the higher 4.3 diff ratio and also have more top end speed as I am revving out on just about all the straights (only managed 148 on the straight at Coombe with the lower diff :)) .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
What output on the adaptronic was it in the end?.470bhp...very nice..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 07:34:58 PM
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 13, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
What output on the adaptronic was it in the end?.470bhp...very nice..
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Auxiliary 2, it obviously has a feed because the ECU is seeing the solenoid and its been configured as well.
The car should go better so its not a big deal, it just didn't let Pip hold the boost better in the places he wanted.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 07:42:13 PM
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 07:42:13 PM
Takes off at 4k...Rocket!!!! This the 8374?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 08:32:15 PM
Post by: clive on October 13, 2018, 08:32:15 PM
:00123101: yes but with a custom wheel in the back :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 08:34:50 PM
Post by: boosted on October 13, 2018, 08:34:50 PM
Need a warning light that comes on at 3900rpm me thinks...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 15, 2018, 04:01:44 AM
Post by: re japi on October 15, 2018, 04:01:44 AM
470 at 1 bar? ??? Damn... :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Clarky on October 15, 2018, 02:00:38 PM
Post by: Clarky on October 15, 2018, 02:00:38 PM
Wow, really need to get to Brands to see your race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 17, 2018, 09:31:39 PM
Post by: clive on October 17, 2018, 09:31:39 PM
Getting ready for Brands next week :) Went to Team Hard's workshops and collected a few sets of this years spec BTCC tyres the owner Tony Gilham donated to me, including a set of the soft option tyres with the white Dunlop markings. As these are the faster tyre those who follow BTCC will know they can only run these for one race out of the three races per event.
The car is of a similar weight to a BTCC car and the RX-8 is kind on its tyres so hopefully they will live OK.
Stripped the 4.4 Diff out today and tomorrow I will change the Kazz diff into the 4.3 diff which should give it more speed on the straights.
Turns out the racing is across Saturday and Sunday but I have still yet to see the actual program for the proper schedule.
Going to have to relearn the grip levels in qualifying but with more BHP and more grip available I am really looking forward to seeing what lap times the car will produce. Got to be better than the 54.487 on Toyo's from the beginning of the year surely ::)
The car is of a similar weight to a BTCC car and the RX-8 is kind on its tyres so hopefully they will live OK.
Stripped the 4.4 Diff out today and tomorrow I will change the Kazz diff into the 4.3 diff which should give it more speed on the straights.
Turns out the racing is across Saturday and Sunday but I have still yet to see the actual program for the proper schedule.
Going to have to relearn the grip levels in qualifying but with more BHP and more grip available I am really looking forward to seeing what lap times the car will produce. Got to be better than the 54.487 on Toyo's from the beginning of the year surely ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
No grip for a lap then limpit grip...thats how the Westy is on slicks.
I looked on ebay for btcc slicks none on there. Think id have more oil in the catch tank than sump with my current set up mind.
Is this Thunder series rolling start? Would have thought so.
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I looked on ebay for btcc slicks none on there. Think id have more oil in the catch tank than sump with my current set up mind.
Is this Thunder series rolling start? Would have thought so.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 19, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Post by: clive on October 19, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Hi Jon,
Going to be a challenge find the grip limits in qually but don't worry I raced on 10" wide slicks for years and any of them normally take two laps to get them alive, which is why you see so many first corner accidents ::)
The Allcomers series I may do a couple of weeks after are rolling starts, so I'm not worried by that but until race day I don't actually know if the Thunder Saloons do this or standing starts.
The format of these events is across two days, so I will have qualifying Saturday and Racing then I suspect a warm up on Sunday then more Racing.
Going to be a challenge find the grip limits in qually but don't worry I raced on 10" wide slicks for years and any of them normally take two laps to get them alive, which is why you see so many first corner accidents ::)
The Allcomers series I may do a couple of weeks after are rolling starts, so I'm not worried by that but until race day I don't actually know if the Thunder Saloons do this or standing starts.
The format of these events is across two days, so I will have qualifying Saturday and Racing then I suspect a warm up on Sunday then more Racing.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:46:42 PM
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:46:42 PM
I think the cars goona be fantastic on slicks!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
Post by: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
Would hope rolling...slicks again..regs? Tyre warmers ? Doubt there allowed club racing?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 19, 2018, 08:08:35 PM
Post by: clive on October 19, 2018, 08:08:35 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 19, 2018, 07:46:42 PM
I think the cars goona be fantastic on slicks!
Hope so, I need 2 seconds at least to be competitive
Just hope the gearing's OK as the BTCC tyres are a little bit bigger in diameter than the Toyo's
Tyre warmers---------- you bring the genny and I'll bring me hair dryer :00123101:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 20, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
Post by: clive on October 20, 2018, 04:26:02 PM
BARC Car Championships
Brands Hatch Indy Saturday 27 - Sunday 28 October 2018
Saturday
10:30 CTC Thunder & Boss Qualifying 15 mins
14:15 CTC Thunder & Boss Race 4 15 mins
Sunday
12:00 CTC Thunder & Boss Race 11 15 mins
https://msvstatic.com/documents/BH%20BARC%20OCT.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 23, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
Post by: clive on October 23, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
All set for the weekend, just hoping the huge slicks don't rub and we don't have too much of this below ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 24, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2018, 09:03:29 PM
Here we go Jon.
This is a link to my Thunder Saloon series, they have dumped me in with the big boys in Class A ( All two-wheel drive cars 4000cc and above)
https://classictouringcars.com/thunder-saloon-championship/
Here is the weekends timetable
https://msvstatic.com/documents/BH%20BARC%20OCT.pdf
This is a link to my Thunder Saloon series, they have dumped me in with the big boys in Class A ( All two-wheel drive cars 4000cc and above)
https://classictouringcars.com/thunder-saloon-championship/
Here is the weekends timetable
https://msvstatic.com/documents/BH%20BARC%20OCT.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 24, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
Post by: boosted on October 24, 2018, 09:04:45 PM
Cool thanks. On nights so will have a look later.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 26, 2018, 06:16:16 PM
Post by: clive on October 26, 2018, 06:16:16 PM
Parked up at Brands ready for the weekend, the Scooby and the Skyline are there running more power than they do in Track attack and a Team Hard BTCC car will be in my class (they were testing all day!)
Should be interesting racing plus its looking like rain, after a dry all weekend prediction !!!
For those following on TSL
Tomorrow qualifying is at 10.30 with the race on at 14.15.
Sundays race is now at 12 midday
Should be interesting racing plus its looking like rain, after a dry all weekend prediction !!!
For those following on TSL
Tomorrow qualifying is at 10.30 with the race on at 14.15.
Sundays race is now at 12 midday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 26, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
Post by: Casey on October 26, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
Was hoping to get to see you race on Sunday Clive, but my son and fiance have just called to say they are coming over to stay for the weekend so I won't be able to make it on Sunday as I'd hoped.
Good luck for the weekend - that's some serious competition, and your slicks won't help if it's raining :(
Good luck for the weekend - that's some serious competition, and your slicks won't help if it's raining :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2018, 07:15:34 PM
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2018, 07:15:34 PM
Good luck and have fun!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 26, 2018, 08:21:39 PM
Post by: clive on October 26, 2018, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 26, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
Was hoping to get to see you race on Sunday Clive, but my son and fiance have just called to say they are coming over to stay for the weekend so I won't be able to make it on Sunday as I'd hoped.
Good luck for the weekend - that's some serious competition, and your slicks won't help if it's raining :(
Shame not to see you there,
p.s. I have proper BTCC Wets as well so not worried about the rain ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2018, 08:08:21 AM
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2018, 08:08:21 AM
Clive, looking at weather, worth putting another coat of rain x on inside of windscreen.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on October 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
Post by: jinx on October 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
Even allowing for the x2 rotary equivalency, are you in class A2 as opposed to C (All cars 2-wheel drive 2000-2900cc) so as to avoid any risk of upsetting the Blue Oval runners? Maybe you should remind them that in your day it used to be a Blue Circle.
Practice results here: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BARC/2018/184321cth.pdf
Practice results here: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BARC/2018/184321cth.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: jinx on October 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
Even allowing for the x2 rotary equivalency, are you in class A2 as opposed to C (All cars 2-wheel drive 2000-2900cc) so as to avoid any risk of upsetting the Blue Oval runners? Maybe you should remind them that in your day it used to be a Blue Circle.
Practice results here: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BARC/2018/184321cth.pdf
Well as you will see when the video goes up, that yes I still managed to upset some of the Blue Oval runners ;)
Andrew, now everyone knows where the car colours came from ;) ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Well the weekend despite all the work getting and changing tyres etc was a bit of a letdown, primarily due to the weather.
Those who have been to some of the December trackdays with us know that Brands can be the equivalent of being in the Antarctic for cold and chill factor and that's what we had on Saturday.
The slicks I was so looking forward to running turned out to disaster, offering me zero grip and spent qually just moving out the way.
Took the decision to leave the track and get my Toyo R88R tyres which I knew would not help me against the softer slicked cars but would at least stop me crashing!
Starting a lowly 19th on the grid, just on the warm up lap before the rolling start I had more grip than all of the qualifying session.
I suspected the first corner would be a bit iffy and decided to let them sort themselves out before tying to pick em off.
Sure enough what you will see in the video was nothing less than appalling, deliberately running a car off track should have led to a licence suspension. Back in Parc fermé if you watch the footage you can imagine the argument that took place with people being led away ::),
Any way with that stupidity out the way I got my head down and started to pick a few off and boy did they dislike being overtaken ;) but would up finishing tenth, so I did get a few of them.
Gearing works better but felt the car was down on power top end which would show why on Sunday.
Car must be quicker than it was because despite the super cold weather I was only a couple of tenths off my best time at Brands in good weather earlier in the year circulating in 54 second laps.
Come Sunday nobody had a clue what tyres to run and I should have stayed on full wets like may others and just four laps in the intercooler pipe came of the throttle body which leads me to suspect that I was bleeding off boost and power on Saturday as well.
That's it now for the season with just a play time left of the 7th of December Track Day
Here's the first corner fiasco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IecDxQicXdA
https://youtu.be/xFOSrFSvHI0
Those who have been to some of the December trackdays with us know that Brands can be the equivalent of being in the Antarctic for cold and chill factor and that's what we had on Saturday.
The slicks I was so looking forward to running turned out to disaster, offering me zero grip and spent qually just moving out the way.
Took the decision to leave the track and get my Toyo R88R tyres which I knew would not help me against the softer slicked cars but would at least stop me crashing!
Starting a lowly 19th on the grid, just on the warm up lap before the rolling start I had more grip than all of the qualifying session.
I suspected the first corner would be a bit iffy and decided to let them sort themselves out before tying to pick em off.
Sure enough what you will see in the video was nothing less than appalling, deliberately running a car off track should have led to a licence suspension. Back in Parc fermé if you watch the footage you can imagine the argument that took place with people being led away ::),
Any way with that stupidity out the way I got my head down and started to pick a few off and boy did they dislike being overtaken ;) but would up finishing tenth, so I did get a few of them.
Gearing works better but felt the car was down on power top end which would show why on Sunday.
Car must be quicker than it was because despite the super cold weather I was only a couple of tenths off my best time at Brands in good weather earlier in the year circulating in 54 second laps.
Come Sunday nobody had a clue what tyres to run and I should have stayed on full wets like may others and just four laps in the intercooler pipe came of the throttle body which leads me to suspect that I was bleeding off boost and power on Saturday as well.
That's it now for the season with just a play time left of the 7th of December Track Day
Here's the first corner fiasco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IecDxQicXdA
https://youtu.be/xFOSrFSvHI0
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 29, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 29, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Clive you posted the wrong video for the first corner lol.
Here is the first corner fiasco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IecDxQicXdA
Here is the first corner fiasco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IecDxQicXdA
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: Prototype on October 29, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Clive you posted the wrong video for the first corner lol.
Here is the first corner fiasco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IecDxQicXdA
I only realised afterwards / this was my boost checking Video you did for me, whoops , not the first corner and not the one for the racer proper as I presume there's a zoomed out version.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2018, 11:54:31 PM
Post by: Casey on October 29, 2018, 11:54:31 PM
Not a bad result on Saturday Clive, given the opposition and conditions :13:
I bet you were very relieved not to be a victim of that Paddock Hill incident :eek:
I can't get the 2nd video link to work for some reason?
I bet you were very relieved not to be a victim of that Paddock Hill incident :eek:
I can't get the 2nd video link to work for some reason?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Casey on October 29, 2018, 11:54:31 PM
Not a bad result on Saturday Clive, given the opposition and conditions :13:
I bet you were very relieved not to be a victim of that Paddock Hill incident :eek:
I can't get the 2nd video link to work for some reason?
Second video wasn't to be made public that's why it doesn't work.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
Here is the race from Saturday https://youtu.be/xFOSrFSvHI0
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
Watched it..looks so much better in the corner..what the hells under the bonnet of the Fiesta XR2...
If its bleeding boost at top end defo gonna need a map tweak now youve tighten it up...
Ive got a Gizmo r boost controller thats mapable per 500 rpm happy to donate to cause...i dont use it. It will work perfect with your 3 port solenoid.
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If its bleeding boost at top end defo gonna need a map tweak now youve tighten it up...
Ive got a Gizmo r boost controller thats mapable per 500 rpm happy to donate to cause...i dont use it. It will work perfect with your 3 port solenoid.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
Post by: boosted on October 30, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
Gotta say Philip thats a fantastic video..overlaying commentary onboard and trackside perfectly. Ive no idea how you done it..brilliant. Just watched again cast to tv..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 30, 2018, 08:58:20 PM
Post by: clive on October 30, 2018, 08:58:20 PM
Wow, just watched this through my TV, what an excellent job Philip has made and so much patience as I know this takes him hours to compile, with in-car his own outside footage and then the commentary over the top as well :13:
Philip is also my "Telemetry" and he has played with the footage so he could see my gauges. I did say to him this morning that the car really did not have any grunt and he managed to zoom the boost gauge to find I was hitting 15lbs of boost then it immediately bled to 10lbs of boost.
So the reality of this would be the car only dragging itself along at say 300 bhp and this explains why I had to work hard to put some of the cars away I overtook!.
The really encouraging thing is that in super cold weather with a very down on power car compared to when I won at Brands in nice weather, is that I was still lapping in the same 54 second bracket :)
This means that once we can hold the boost putting all its power out and holding it plus all the development, especially the aero work it means the car should be faster next season
Here's a picture from the weekend,
Philip is also my "Telemetry" and he has played with the footage so he could see my gauges. I did say to him this morning that the car really did not have any grunt and he managed to zoom the boost gauge to find I was hitting 15lbs of boost then it immediately bled to 10lbs of boost.
So the reality of this would be the car only dragging itself along at say 300 bhp and this explains why I had to work hard to put some of the cars away I overtook!.
The really encouraging thing is that in super cold weather with a very down on power car compared to when I won at Brands in nice weather, is that I was still lapping in the same 54 second bracket :)
This means that once we can hold the boost putting all its power out and holding it plus all the development, especially the aero work it means the car should be faster next season
Here's a picture from the weekend,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 30, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
Gotta say Philip thats a fantastic video..overlaying commentary onboard and trackside perfectly. Ive no idea how you done it..brilliant. Just watched again cast to tv..
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Thanks John, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's a bit of a fiddle editing 3 or more time-codes and you need a powerful PC too.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: neil_jdmr on October 31, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Post by: neil_jdmr on October 31, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Fantastic video Clive, well done and thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2018, 12:59:41 PM
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2018, 12:59:41 PM
Found some footage of the slippery conditions all series were struggling with....also pause at 7.00 i spy 2 RX8 silhouette race cars mmmm :P
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
Post by: boosted on October 31, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
Link would help dum dum...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2018, 06:40:26 AM
Post by: boosted on November 01, 2018, 06:40:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQSHxrRkS0
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: Prototype on October 30, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
Here is the race from Saturday https://youtu.be/xFOSrFSvHI0
Another masterful editing job Philip - even better than previous ones with the outside clips included :great:
Thanks again, I know that must have been very time consuming to produce, but a great result :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
I know it’s great too win but man it looks so much more fun starting at the back and racing through
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 04, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2018, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 03, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
I know it’s great too win but man it looks so much more fun starting at the back and racing through
Your right Grant over the years I have had wins that have actually been boring ;)
Yes I have enjoyed the two outright wins I had this year but probably the most enjoyable and frustrating at the same time was the Siverstone race where I started at the back, something like 32nd and got up to 12th. The frustration came from the double yellows which meant I couldn't overtake at times and get higher up the placings.
You can see the race on my own YouTube Channel Philip created this year ( just put Clive Haynsford in and you can subscribe if you want to)
Here's the Silverstone Race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaYJKdx6VU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2018, 03:07:32 PM
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2018, 03:07:32 PM
The Subaru crash is on youtube Clive...its a big 1.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
Post by: boosted on November 04, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQqKQfPrB9k here its is...mirror signal manovoer :love4:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
Oh my, I would have been swearing a lot if that happened too me!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 04, 2018, 09:12:09 PM
Post by: clive on November 04, 2018, 09:12:09 PM
The Guy with the Sierra said he thought the blue flags were for the BMW chasing the Scooby and was looking at him in his mirror "allegedly"
Lee showed me the footage from his car on Sunday and wow, just nowhere to go.
As I said to him, with the Sierra moving that far out off the corner, I too would have presumed he would just stay out there with blues being shown.
Lee showed me the footage from his car on Sunday and wow, just nowhere to go.
As I said to him, with the Sierra moving that far out off the corner, I too would have presumed he would just stay out there with blues being shown.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 19, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: Prototype on November 19, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Here you go this is Race 2 with the retirement due to a turbo hose coming off. Sorry it's taken me so long to do this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qnrDWt2F2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qnrDWt2F2A
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 19, 2018, 01:07:05 PM
Post by: boosted on November 19, 2018, 01:07:05 PM
Slippy slippage! Some great saves..by you and others...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 20, 2018, 06:18:49 AM
Post by: re japi on November 20, 2018, 06:18:49 AM
Prototype, you are forgive, great vid again
Yeah, very slipery.
That MK2 Escort is spitting lots of flames
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Yeah, very slipery.
That MK2 Escort is spitting lots of flames
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 20, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Many thanks to Philip once again :bravo_2:
Should have left my wets on! Changed tyre's twice along with others before going out. As you will see, I lost loads of time working out where the spinning Sierra was off to as I was hoping to and felt I could catch the flaming Escort.
Didn't really matter as the boost pipe came off. I have now fitted a big hydraulic hose clip on the throttle body so it cant happen again, silly really as I had these on all the other pipes.
As I say the plus side is that with the car on decent slicks and holding boost, I'm now sure the car can be competitive in this Thunder Saloon series as well ;)
Should have left my wets on! Changed tyre's twice along with others before going out. As you will see, I lost loads of time working out where the spinning Sierra was off to as I was hoping to and felt I could catch the flaming Escort.
Didn't really matter as the boost pipe came off. I have now fitted a big hydraulic hose clip on the throttle body so it cant happen again, silly really as I had these on all the other pipes.
As I say the plus side is that with the car on decent slicks and holding boost, I'm now sure the car can be competitive in this Thunder Saloon series as well ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
Have a good day Clive, take it steady in the wet!!!
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Title: Clive's 470 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 12, 2018, 09:36:13 PM
Post by: clive on December 12, 2018, 09:36:13 PM
This post is a thank you post to all you good people who have either assisted or supported my efforts through thick and thin, initially to get the car to win races and now to become a Championship Winning RX-8. :thank-you:
Because I was racing in a different series, on the day of the end of year Track Attack Trophy presentations, I obviously did not attend and with a lot of different winners I had no idea who won what over the course of the season.
Literally only last night that I found that with 2 Overall Wins 4 Class wins and 2 Poles it gave me the Super GT/ Multi-marques 2018 Championship.
Because I was racing in a different series, on the day of the end of year Track Attack Trophy presentations, I obviously did not attend and with a lot of different winners I had no idea who won what over the course of the season.
Literally only last night that I found that with 2 Overall Wins 4 Class wins and 2 Poles it gave me the Super GT/ Multi-marques 2018 Championship.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 09:50:46 PM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2018, 09:50:46 PM
Whohoo...Go Christine...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 07:28:08 AM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 07:28:08 AM
https://id-workz.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-boost-controller
this is the link to the Gizzmo... Duty can be changed per 500 rpm so different boost settings at different rpms,launch low rpm low boost wheel hook up boost. 4K high boost Rocket launcher mode
I have this fitted on my car but not controlling boost, prob take me an hour to get out...happy to send to you and you have a back up if the Adaptronic cant control the wastegate....and can it change boost dependent on rpm?
You could install (cable tie stylee) :violent1: :13: live and neutral, run the solenoid and vac hose through to engine bay before you go to Pips? got the solenoid etc but you got that already...
Ive got the manual as well etc.
Upto you ....could save a few ££££ and wasted journey, its doing nothing on my car atmo. :P
this is the link to the Gizzmo... Duty can be changed per 500 rpm so different boost settings at different rpms,launch low rpm low boost wheel hook up boost. 4K high boost Rocket launcher mode
I have this fitted on my car but not controlling boost, prob take me an hour to get out...happy to send to you and you have a back up if the Adaptronic cant control the wastegate....and can it change boost dependent on rpm?
You could install (cable tie stylee) :violent1: :13: live and neutral, run the solenoid and vac hose through to engine bay before you go to Pips? got the solenoid etc but you got that already...
Ive got the manual as well etc.
Upto you ....could save a few ££££ and wasted journey, its doing nothing on my car atmo. :P
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 13, 2018, 12:29:05 PM
Post by: clive on December 13, 2018, 12:29:05 PM
Thanks Jon, I never stop a good volunteer ;)
I would be interested to see how they plumb a single Turbo in the manual?.
I would be interested to see how they plumb a single Turbo in the manual?.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 03:00:34 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2018, 03:00:34 PM
https://manualzz.com/doc/7305889/ibc-r-user-manual---from-tuner-tools
its all here.. p19 external wastegate plumbing with solenoid port numbers.
its all here.. p19 external wastegate plumbing with solenoid port numbers.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 02, 2019, 08:27:45 PM
Post by: clive on February 02, 2019, 08:27:45 PM
Had a good day up at Pip's (WGT Auto Developments) today with around 3 hours on the Dyno fine tuning my new wastegate system.
Finally the ECU is seeing the boost through the solenoid operating the wastegate on the closed loop system shown below.
Same BHP at just 1 Bar (14.5 psi) but now the boost holds because before it was bleeding off a third of the boost available immediately, boost also comes in 1000 rpm earlier :great:
Also found that the car started running out of fuel despite showing over half a tank of fuel, which tells me that the fuel is not being siphoned across from the other tank,so I need to pull out the new pot and find out why.
I now have a switch on the dash that cuts the solenoid off and the wastegate goes to 0.8 Bar (11 psi) and this lower boost setting should help get the car under way without lighting the tyres up so easily, then once underway I can flip the switch to give full power :)
Car "should" now be a fair bit quicker going into the new season with a consistent 410 BHP at the wheels ;D
Finally the ECU is seeing the boost through the solenoid operating the wastegate on the closed loop system shown below.
Same BHP at just 1 Bar (14.5 psi) but now the boost holds because before it was bleeding off a third of the boost available immediately, boost also comes in 1000 rpm earlier :great:
Also found that the car started running out of fuel despite showing over half a tank of fuel, which tells me that the fuel is not being siphoned across from the other tank,so I need to pull out the new pot and find out why.
I now have a switch on the dash that cuts the solenoid off and the wastegate goes to 0.8 Bar (11 psi) and this lower boost setting should help get the car under way without lighting the tyres up so easily, then once underway I can flip the switch to give full power :)
Car "should" now be a fair bit quicker going into the new season with a consistent 410 BHP at the wheels ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2019, 09:02:17 PM
Post by: boosted on February 02, 2019, 09:02:17 PM
Excellent news...the tank syphoning issue might simply be the pipe detached?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 06:38:20 AM
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 06:38:20 AM
Nice! :sign0098: 1000rpms earlier can make a big difference... 410bhp at wheels? Thats about 470-480 from engine?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 09:22:05 AM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 09:22:05 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 02, 2019, 09:02:17 PM
Excellent news...the tank syphoning issue might simply be the pipe detached?
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That's what I'm hoping Jon, fingers crossed its that simple.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 09:23:52 AM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: re japi on February 03, 2019, 06:38:20 AM
Nice! :sign0098: 1000rpms earlier can make a big difference... 410bhp at wheels? Thats about 470-480 from engine?
@ only 1 Bar :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2019, 09:30:49 AM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2019, 09:30:49 AM
When you look at a piccy of the tank it really is a saddle tank...its like 2 saddle bags on a horse...its gotta be the syphon not pulling over from drivers side.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: clive on February 03, 2019, 09:23:52 AMOnly in 1bar?!?!?Quote from: re japi on February 03, 2019, 06:38:20 AM
Nice! :sign0098: 1000rpms earlier can make a big difference... 410bhp at wheels? Thats about 470-480 from engine?
@ only 1 Bar :great:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 10:54:43 AM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 10:54:43 AM
Going to use the car in at least two series this year / Track Attack series and the All Comers series and possibly Thunder Saloons but I need to buy some new soft slicks to be competitive in that.(sponsor's please form an orderly queue :mrgreen:)
Next outing/ Track Day Castle Coombe 23rd February
Track Attack Dates & All-comers 2019
March 24th
Brands Hatch
April 7th
Silverstone
May 6th
Castle Combe
May 26th
Snetterton
8 June â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
June 16th
Mallory Park
20 July â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
September 15th
Mallory Park
29 September â€" Donington Park National All-comers
October 20th
Autumn Trophy - Donington Park
16 November â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
Next outing/ Track Day Castle Coombe 23rd February
Track Attack Dates & All-comers 2019
March 24th
Brands Hatch
April 7th
Silverstone
May 6th
Castle Combe
May 26th
Snetterton
8 June â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
June 16th
Mallory Park
20 July â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
September 15th
Mallory Park
29 September â€" Donington Park National All-comers
October 20th
Autumn Trophy - Donington Park
16 November â€" Brands Hatch Indy All-comers
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2019, 11:38:16 AM
Post by: boosted on February 03, 2019, 11:38:16 AM
All in my Diary! 8) panned out quite well with my shifts....Wheel man for Combe and hopefully few others. :occasion14:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 12:18:03 PM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 03, 2019, 11:38:16 AM
All in my Diary! 8) panned out quite well with my shifts....Wheel man for Combe and hopefully few others. :occasion14:
Never stop a good volunteer
:bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 08:13:27 PM
Post by: re japi on February 03, 2019, 08:13:27 PM
Would love to see you race. And in Brands Hatch...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 08:46:59 PM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: re japi on February 03, 2019, 08:13:27 PM
Would love to see you race. And in Brands Hatch...
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It would be great to see you there Jarno 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
Just found this on-lime motorsport mag, nice factual write up on page 34 ( you will need to copy and paste the link)
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Desktop/Donnington%20Autumn%20Trophy%202018.pdf
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Desktop/Donnington%20Autumn%20Trophy%202018.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on February 03, 2019, 11:12:33 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on February 03, 2019, 11:12:33 PM
Clive glad to see you are making more good progress and hope this bodes well for 2019. looked at seeing if I could pop up to CC on 23/2 but unfortunately already booked to go to Race Retro that day. Hopefully May will work out.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2019, 12:38:10 AM
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2019, 12:38:10 AM
Quote from: clive on February 03, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
Just found this on-lime motorsport mag, nice factual write up on page 34 ( you will need to copy and paste the link)
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Desktop/Donnington%20Autumn%20Trophy%202018.pdf
That won't work Clive; it's a local path to a file on your computer's desktop, not to a file on the internet ;)
It's a PDF file though, so you should be able to attach it to a post here, as it should be on your PC desktop :icon_thumleft:
PS Dates for Brands and Snetterton in my diary - I should be able to make some of these at least :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 04, 2019, 03:27:49 PM
Post by: clive on February 04, 2019, 03:27:49 PM
http://classicandcompetitioncar.com/previous-issues/
This should work, if you scroll down, its the November issue
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2019, 07:27:26 PM
Post by: Casey on February 04, 2019, 07:27:26 PM
:13: :13: That worked, nice little mention and photo on p34 :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 12, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
Post by: clive on February 12, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
Really looking forward to seeing how much of a difference this last Dyno session has made at Castle Coombe next week in readiness for the coming race season.
With the boost now controlled through the Adaptronic ECU the car now finally holds boost, instead of bleeding off 1/3 of its boost and 100 BHP plus while travelling down the straights !
You will now see on one sheet that the boost is held just about to its Max, plus I can also turn the feed off going to the ECU and let the turbo see just spring pressure.
You will see the difference is 100 BHP which means I can get the car off the grid on low boost then switch to high boost, this also means I have a soft setting for the wet :great:
With the boost now controlled through the Adaptronic ECU the car now finally holds boost, instead of bleeding off 1/3 of its boost and 100 BHP plus while travelling down the straights !
You will now see on one sheet that the boost is held just about to its Max, plus I can also turn the feed off going to the ECU and let the turbo see just spring pressure.
You will see the difference is 100 BHP which means I can get the car off the grid on low boost then switch to high boost, this also means I have a soft setting for the wet :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Post by: boosted on February 12, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Looking good...sorry no pace/play car for you next week..hopefully JDM..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 09:25:54 AM
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 12, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Looking good...sorry no pace/play car for you next week..hopefully JDM..
As you know I wish you well, you never know 4 weeks on maybe you can get to Brands, fingers crossed for you.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2019, 09:40:15 AM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2019, 09:40:15 AM
Fingers and toes crossed! I need a track day! Last time on track August!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 13, 2019, 11:30:58 AM
Post by: rote8 on February 13, 2019, 11:30:58 AM
That is looking better than just good Clive :13: All the best for the coming season, if last years results with a less than a perfectly running turbo/ECU are anything to go by then you should be in for a good year. :great:
Me too but alas it's not to be unfortunately :(. Wish all track day/racers a great season this coming year. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: boosted on February 13, 2019, 09:40:15 AMI need a track day!
Me too but alas it's not to be unfortunately :(. Wish all track day/racers a great season this coming year. :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
Post by: boosted on February 13, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
Did you get my stickers?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 06:35:42 PM
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 13, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
Did you get my stickers?
Yes, thankyou, but I not sure where to put them yet as they are a bit big. Don't worry, the original "wired by boosted" stickers are still on the rear pillars :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 06:37:11 PM
Post by: clive on February 13, 2019, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: rote8 on February 13, 2019, 11:30:58 AM
That is looking better than just good Clive :13: All the best for the coming season, if last years results with a less than a perfectly running turbo/ECU are anything to go by then you should be in for a good year. :great:
Thanks Ray, maybe you can make it to a Brands race this year :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on February 13, 2019, 08:39:35 PM
Post by: rote8 on February 13, 2019, 08:39:35 PM
Will do my best :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 03:53:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 03:53:36 PM
Got bored at work, so decided to watch some of Jon's You tube vids.
Watch the one of Clive's car after Jon had created his race loom.
Oh how I chortled when Jon kicked over what sounded like a can of WD40 then my speakers presented the guys in my office with "Oh F*****g Hell!"
Quality moment!! ..... luvvin the accent too Jon :13: :13:
Watch the one of Clive's car after Jon had created his race loom.
Oh how I chortled when Jon kicked over what sounded like a can of WD40 then my speakers presented the guys in my office with "Oh F*****g Hell!"
Quality moment!! ..... luvvin the accent too Jon :13: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 03:58:05 PM
Bought n paid for West Country Accent...
"alright my luvver".
It was Clives blimin front splitter that got most of the cusses...proper shin destroyer.
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"alright my luvver".
It was Clives blimin front splitter that got most of the cusses...proper shin destroyer.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
Hahaha
Well If I bump into you at a track day etc, I hope I can take you seriously with that accent.
Mind you, you'll probably accuse me of sounding like a Brummie !!!
Well If I bump into you at a track day etc, I hope I can take you seriously with that accent.
Mind you, you'll probably accuse me of sounding like a Brummie !!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 04:07:13 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 04:07:13 PM
Lol i used to live in Liverpooooool...i couldnt understand anyone.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 14, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Good Lord !!! did you kill a Robin in a previous life?!?!?
what did you do to deserve that?
what did you do to deserve that?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
Didnt last long up there...hated the promotion i took.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2019, 09:30:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 15, 2019, 09:30:15 AM
"Jon to the CEO's office please, Jon to the CEO office!"
"So Jon, were really impressed with your work, and there's a nice lil promotion for you, with £160k p/a, Plus a company car and benefits."
"Its in Liverpool and its a Mercedes company car"
[Jon] "Nah!"
"So Jon, were really impressed with your work, and there's a nice lil promotion for you, with £160k p/a, Plus a company car and benefits."
"Its in Liverpool and its a Mercedes company car"
[Jon] "Nah!"
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2019, 05:36:12 PM
Post by: Casey on February 15, 2019, 05:36:12 PM
Sounds about right I reckon ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
Liverpool OZ..?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 24, 2019, 09:53:46 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 24, 2019, 09:53:46 AM
Nice to see the car for the first time in the flesh yesterday at castle Combe . very nice and rather quick Too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Post by: clive on February 24, 2019, 04:44:11 PM
Great to see you had a good day Wayne, saw you on track loads of times.
So please I had a chance to test the race car, as some of you know the car popped a hose off the water pump during the third session, no harm done as I was able to kill the engine and roll straight back into the pits. Great that it happened this way as it would have probably come off in qualifying at Brands Hatch on March 24.
Probably the best the car has ever felt and feels much faster down the straights now it holds boost properly, also since the last Coombe outing the car has different spring rates, different brake pad set up, plus the rear plates under the suspension giving a clean air flow to the rear diffuser, means the car feels more stable into and off of the corners.
I know the car has more downforce because an RX-8 owner told me that when I went past him on a dirty part of the track, he could see the diffuser was sucking up dirt and rubbish off the track :)
I'm going to be really disappointed if I cant break into the 53's at Brands next time out ???
So please I had a chance to test the race car, as some of you know the car popped a hose off the water pump during the third session, no harm done as I was able to kill the engine and roll straight back into the pits. Great that it happened this way as it would have probably come off in qualifying at Brands Hatch on March 24.
Probably the best the car has ever felt and feels much faster down the straights now it holds boost properly, also since the last Coombe outing the car has different spring rates, different brake pad set up, plus the rear plates under the suspension giving a clean air flow to the rear diffuser, means the car feels more stable into and off of the corners.
I know the car has more downforce because an RX-8 owner told me that when I went past him on a dirty part of the track, he could see the diffuser was sucking up dirt and rubbish off the track :)
I'm going to be really disappointed if I cant break into the 53's at Brands next time out ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 08:02:26 AM
Post by: Casey on February 25, 2019, 08:02:26 AM
A few photos of Clive's car at Combe on Saturday, courtesy of Stewart Middleton :great:
These are low res images, the original hi res versions are stunning :13:
These are low res images, the original hi res versions are stunning :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 25, 2019, 10:02:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 25, 2019, 10:02:38 AM
That has a nice stance, looks flat and level on the bends.
Need to get out the shed a bit more and stop being a hermit !
Need to get out the shed a bit more and stop being a hermit !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 27, 2019, 01:14:37 PM
Post by: clive on February 27, 2019, 01:14:37 PM
Here we go,
Wasn't trying like on a race day, but still got into the 1.17's which bodes well as this was what i was doing last year with race face on ;)
Wasn't trying like on a race day, but still got into the 1.17's which bodes well as this was what i was doing last year with race face on ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 27, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
Sounds like a right rip snorting animal on full chat.
I like how you start to do the wave of acknowledgement 10 metres before you've got to the car in front knowing it will still be up at that speed haha.
I like how you start to do the wave of acknowledgement 10 metres before you've got to the car in front knowing it will still be up at that speed haha.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 27, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
I like how you start to do the wave of acknowledgement 10 metres before you've got to the car in front knowing it will still be up at that speed haha.
Ahh, dont forget, I was only playing so plenty of time to thank people-------------tends to be a little different at a race event >:D >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 08:23:58 AM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 08:23:58 AM
Yeah some of em think its BTCC !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2019, 08:59:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 28, 2019, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: boosted on February 28, 2019, 08:23:58 AM
Yeah some of em think its BTCC !!
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If I ever get this 4 wheeled plastic pig finished and make it to a track day, not only do I need to learn a new driving style, but I need to control the red mist. More pills that day I think lol
the old BTCC isn't shy of trading paint lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 09:10:21 AM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 09:10:21 AM
Make the BTCC drivers pay for their damage and i expect you see a lot less leaning on cars to get round corners....dont get me wrong its a great spectator sport but if these guys drove like that any club level events there licenses would be ripped off them....saying that id love to have ago!!! would be great to try out a pitman manouever on somebody...with my car fully funded by a manufacturer.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
Damn Christine is fast! Nice!
Umm, what kind of turbo you are using?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 04:09:49 PM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 04:09:49 PM
Quote from: re japi on February 28, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
Damn Christine is fast! Nice!
Umm, what kind of turbo you are using?
Its a Borg Warner SX300 turbo with a custom back end and wheel fitted.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: clive on February 28, 2019, 04:09:49 PMCan you tell what size wheels and AR?Quote from: re japi on February 28, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
Damn Christine is fast! Nice!
Umm, what kind of turbo you are using?
Its a Borg Warner SX300 turbo with a custom back end and wheel fitted.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
Post by: clive on February 28, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
Pip ended up up changing his mind at the last minute just before the Turbo was built, so even I don't know what ended up in the back of the Turbo.
It was like a need to know basis, and I didn't need to know, I just relied on Pip understanding what I needed from the car which has so far proved correct :great:
It was like a need to know basis, and I didn't need to know, I just relied on Pip understanding what I needed from the car which has so far proved correct :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
And with the new heat shield nobody can find out easily....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 08:15:17 PM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2019, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: clive on February 28, 2019, 07:46:25 PMOk, I see.
Pip ended up up changing his mind at the last minute just before the Turbo was built, so even I don't know what ended up in the back of the Turbo.
It was like a need to know basis, and I didn't need to know, I just relied on Pip understanding what I needed from the car which has so far proved correct :great:
Well, just curious. Cause that turbo is basically same as mine, they are sister versions...
That S means kind of that those housings, frame and basic compoments are Shwitzers. 300 is somekind of size.
Mine is S300 with 60mm compressor and 67mm turbine...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 13, 2019, 09:43:38 PM
Post by: clive on March 13, 2019, 09:43:38 PM
Well its been a busy week for Christine on the build up to Brands next Sunday.
At the Castle Coombe track day she was shakin all over at 7500 rpm and above down the straight ! turns out the water pipe came off through vibration.
Changed the rear wheels, just in case it was balancing and it made no difference.
Next up, I found a piece of Kazz diff in the diff oil and it looked a bit "metallicey" so it must have been the diff causing the vibration right, no WRONG :angry5:.
On Sunday, Boston Pete brought a low mileage 4.3 down from guess where, all the way from Boston ;). Spent the day on Monday changing the diff and yes it made a difference but there was still enough vibration at 7500 rpm for me not to race the car :-[
Next up, gear box oil dropped and found no issues there even though the 5 speed RX-8 box has lived in the car for two years now.
Next, tried a different prop-shaft, still no difference.
Then a rush of brains to the head led me to take the wheels off and run the car up in gear again up on axle stands and no vibration :13:
I put the wheels back on but this time with hub hubcentric rings fitted and no vibration, so it means Christine can go to the ball (Brands Hatch) :wee_hee:
Time Table below.
At the Castle Coombe track day she was shakin all over at 7500 rpm and above down the straight ! turns out the water pipe came off through vibration.
Changed the rear wheels, just in case it was balancing and it made no difference.
Next up, I found a piece of Kazz diff in the diff oil and it looked a bit "metallicey" so it must have been the diff causing the vibration right, no WRONG :angry5:.
On Sunday, Boston Pete brought a low mileage 4.3 down from guess where, all the way from Boston ;). Spent the day on Monday changing the diff and yes it made a difference but there was still enough vibration at 7500 rpm for me not to race the car :-[
Next up, gear box oil dropped and found no issues there even though the 5 speed RX-8 box has lived in the car for two years now.
Next, tried a different prop-shaft, still no difference.
Then a rush of brains to the head led me to take the wheels off and run the car up in gear again up on axle stands and no vibration :13:
I put the wheels back on but this time with hub hubcentric rings fitted and no vibration, so it means Christine can go to the ball (Brands Hatch) :wee_hee:
Time Table below.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2019, 10:49:29 PM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2019, 10:49:29 PM
Thatll do it, and take wheel bearings out to...people say the hub centric rings are purely for locating the wheels and the nuts studs centralise but im not so sure. I sold my mate an impreza years ago with 12 months mot, he fitted some aftermarket wheels without spigot rings/hubcentric rings...2months later im fitting x2 wheel bearing...and ordered him the correct rings...
Is it this Sunday? Im off mmmm....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2019, 10:50:26 PM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2019, 10:50:26 PM
Nope just had a look, next sunday, doh nightshift...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2019, 10:52:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2019, 10:52:24 PM
Hubcentric rings?...
It's a new one on me, I'll have to google it
It's a new one on me, I'll have to google it
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 07:46:46 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 07:46:46 AM
Well, they say every day should be an education.....
I never knew these things even existed.....
Surely they take out the "slop" if your centre bore on your wheel is larger than the centre of your hub/disc.
I guess you cant always buy the right centre bore on the wheels you would like. A good example of why you shouldn't rely on the wheel nuts to self centralise.
Good info guys :13:
I never knew these things even existed.....
Surely they take out the "slop" if your centre bore on your wheel is larger than the centre of your hub/disc.
I guess you cant always buy the right centre bore on the wheels you would like. A good example of why you shouldn't rely on the wheel nuts to self centralise.
Good info guys :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 09:39:30 AM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 09:39:30 AM
7500 rpm in 4th is around 140mph so this is why any minor wheel/hub inbalance shows up!.
Chances are, I could take the wheels off, bolt them up again and they would settle in a slightly different place. If I run the hub rings to really make sure the wheels are centralised on the hubs then I shouldn't have any more issues.
Normally across 5 studs the wheel would centralise itself, but this is obviously not always the case with Christeen, after all she does have a mind of her own :c002:
Chances are, I could take the wheels off, bolt them up again and they would settle in a slightly different place. If I run the hub rings to really make sure the wheels are centralised on the hubs then I shouldn't have any more issues.
Normally across 5 studs the wheel would centralise itself, but this is obviously not always the case with Christeen, after all she does have a mind of her own :c002:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
These things are sent to try us I guess.
A minor hiccup in the grand scheme of things.
A minor hiccup in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2019, 09:55:04 AM
Post by: Casey on March 14, 2019, 09:55:04 AM
Better not let Christine find out you are calling her "Christeen", that's really asking for trouble :)) :))
Still planning to get to see you at Brands Clive. Races pm look OK, working on getting down for the morning Qually session too.
Still planning to get to see you at Brands Clive. Races pm look OK, working on getting down for the morning Qually session too.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 11:43:12 AM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 11:43:12 AM
Quote from: Casey on March 14, 2019, 09:55:04 AM
Better not let Christine find out you are calling her "Christeen", that's really asking for trouble :)) :))
I thought a rename may help >:D
Just thought, some may not know what the Christine is all about.
It's the 1980's horror film with the car that had a mind of its own.
Became, especially poignant after the RX-8 set itself alight at Silverstone a few years back!.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
Am I getting confused over the man that got chased by a HGV that tried to kill him........wasn't that "duel" or something?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2019, 01:10:27 PM
Post by: boosted on March 14, 2019, 01:10:27 PM
Nah that was Teresa May...rofl...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 01:17:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 01:17:13 PM
:)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 03:31:07 PM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2019, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 14, 2019, 01:09:10 PM
Am I getting confused over the man that got chased by a HGV that tried to kill him........wasn't that "duel" or something?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 05:58:34 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 05:58:34 PM
Right, we are ready for the off, with the car now sitting out at Brands Hatch ready for the first race of the season tomorrow with some 37 cars taking to the grid .
Wow, its going to be a busy qualifying hopefully without too many lemmings behind the wheel who throw themselves off the track, leading to a plethora of yellow flags. The racing should be fun, on a short track, meaning I will have to keep my tactical head on if we are lapping slower cars so I don't get boxed in ???
Wow, its going to be a busy qualifying hopefully without too many lemmings behind the wheel who throw themselves off the track, leading to a plethora of yellow flags. The racing should be fun, on a short track, meaning I will have to keep my tactical head on if we are lapping slower cars so I don't get boxed in ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 06:26:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 06:26:01 PM
Fingers crossed captain Clive!
Hope Christine behaves.........
Hope Christine behaves.........
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 23, 2019, 06:39:35 PM
Post by: boosted on March 23, 2019, 06:39:35 PM
Meant to ring you mate then a mate came round so rushing b4 work....good luck mate for tomoz...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 07:31:32 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 07:31:32 PM
Thanks Guy's appreciated.
Forgot to add the race can be followed just like a Grand Prix with commentary via
https://www.tsl-timing.com/
Forgot to add the race can be followed just like a Grand Prix with commentary via
https://www.tsl-timing.com/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 07:47:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 07:47:36 PM
What time is kick off?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 23, 2019, 07:53:07 PM
Post by: re japi on March 23, 2019, 07:53:07 PM
Good luck for race, sir! MAXIMUM ATTACK!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
Here you go, the series is called Track Attack
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 08:28:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 08:28:56 PM
Good luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 23, 2019, 08:30:37 PM
Post by: boosted on March 23, 2019, 08:30:37 PM
Cool ill be up from sleep for first race CHAMP!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 09:52:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 23, 2019, 09:52:28 PM
I'll set myself a reminder coz I'm a right empty head
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 10:04:36 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2019, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 08:28:56 PM
Good luck Clive
Thanks Wayne.
Walking around the pits today, the many MX-5 races were obviously carnage with many written off motors laying around, I hope our guys behave themselves
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 11:00:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 11:00:45 PM
Quote from: clive on March 23, 2019, 10:04:36 PMAny photos Clive ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2019, 08:28:56 PM
Good luck Clive
Thanks Wayne.
Walking around the pits today, the many MX-5 races were obviously carnage with many written off motors laying around, I hope our guys behave themselves
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 24, 2019, 07:22:12 AM
Post by: clive on March 24, 2019, 07:22:12 AM
No, but quite a few with fronts or rear ends missing, never like to see a badly damaged race car as I know what it takes just to get a car out, track ready :(
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Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 09:58:09 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 09:58:09 AM
Looking great good luck(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190324/06274d4748157d265a3fa42eaedecdc1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 10:56:46 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 10:56:46 AM
Qualifyinghttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5c97626becde6/VID_20190324_105604.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5c97626becde6/VID_20190324_105604.mp4)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
5th on the grid according to the brands hatch live app
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 12:52:44 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 12:52:44 PM
TSL timing top six all within a second of each other....theres a Jenson Healey 2500 on the grid ..???? Had to google that...race 1 at 2.05
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 01:59:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 01:59:44 PM
Im on the timing page web linky thing
cant hear nuffin .........
cant hear nuffin .........
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:01:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:01:19 PM
I hear it !!!!
Its like im trackside ! hahaha
Its like im trackside ! hahaha
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
Am i listening to the right one? lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:06:21 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:06:21 PM
Track cleared ...race starting soon
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:07:57 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:07:57 PM
If you just heard, Clive hasnt lined up on grid....
NIPPON challenge Brands hatch Indy...
Hopefully starts from pits...
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NIPPON challenge Brands hatch Indy...
Hopefully starts from pits...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
No RX on warm-up lap... Car spun on warm-up lap
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
Cement going down on the track
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:11:35 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:11:35 PM
Raaa Clives in pitlane but not starting...start Christine now!!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:12:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:12:35 PM
Cant hear anything, its ll gone quiet
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:14:23 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:14:23 PM
Im on TSL timing....working fine....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:16:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:16:08 PM
Im on there too, says Commentry streaming
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:16:14 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:16:14 PM
I hope they let him start from pitlane....start yer B%^Stard!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:17:02 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:17:02 PM
Volume up? Lol...its gone quiet now...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:19:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:19:58 PM
Works on my phone...........
FS !!
Stupid computer
FS !!
Stupid computer
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:20:03 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:20:03 PM
I just had to stop n start stteaming back on..please Rotor God...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:22:11 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 02:22:11 PM
No RX 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:23:47 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 02:23:47 PM
Damn....no pitlane start....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:26:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 02:26:54 PM
Awww poor Clive
Is this gonna put a big dent in championship hopes, i dunno how many races in the season
Is this gonna put a big dent in championship hopes, i dunno how many races in the season
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 04:54:30 PM
I left Clive at the track at 3.30pm and the car is fine to go in 2nd race. He'll be at the back of the grid to start, which will give him a good challenge ;)
Several of the front runners in the first race, the Civic and the Imprezza, have had to retire, plus several other cars are out. Could be interesting.
I'm back home now, listening to race 14. Clive is in race 16, so about 20-25 mins, around 5.20pm.
Several of the front runners in the first race, the Civic and the Imprezza, have had to retire, plus several other cars are out. Could be interesting.
I'm back home now, listening to race 14. Clive is in race 16, so about 20-25 mins, around 5.20pm.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 05:07:58 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 05:07:58 PM
What was wrong?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:31:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:31:51 PM
Tuned in.......
Cmon Clive !!!
Cmon Clive !!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
Battery died. The extended delay to start of race meant Clive switched off ignition, then wouldn't start 2 minutes later. Couldn't even bump start it. Changed battery in pit lane and car started straight away. Race was 2 laps in, but Clerk of Course wouldn't let start from pit lane.
Race about to start, Clive is on the grid :13:
Race about to start, Clive is on the grid :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
lol 2 laps and up to 13th ! what a rocket hahaha
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:51:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 24, 2019, 05:51:53 PM
:bravo_2: :bravo_2: Good show !
How quick were those Renault Clio's to be lapping those times? Jeeez
How quick were those Renault Clio's to be lapping those times? Jeeez
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
Wow, exciting race. Finished 4th from 31st on grid.
Well done Clive!
Well done Clive!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 05:55:57 PM
Post by: boosted on March 24, 2019, 05:55:57 PM
Woohoo welldone.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 06:08:10 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 06:08:10 PM
Loved the race commentary towards the end, several mentions of Clives car spitting flames in the fading light as he was overtaking :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on March 24, 2019, 07:25:14 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 24, 2019, 07:25:14 PM
:sign0098: well done Clive Excellent Recovery to gain 4 position :13: :13: :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
Well done! I couldn't stay for the second race unfortunately.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 08:42:16 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 08:42:16 PM
You should have dropped by to say hello Brad. I saw you RX-8 parked up as I arrived around 10am.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 24, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 24, 2019, 08:42:16 PMI did walk to the car in the pits but there wasn't anyone around the car. Next time I will hand around a bit longer.
You should have dropped by to say hello Brad. I saw you RX-8 parked up as I arrived around 10am.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 08:52:23 PM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2019, 08:52:23 PM
:icon_thumright: unlucky, we were around most of the day but did go for drinks and food a couple of times. Thanks for popping by :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kev-yorks on March 24, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Post by: kev-yorks on March 24, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Looking on the positives the car's obviously performing well and Clive will of had some fun carving through the field.
The battery issue is getting to be a bit of a recurring theme though maybe time to accept a slight weight penalty and either upgrade or run a second race battery in parallel.
The battery issue is getting to be a bit of a recurring theme though maybe time to accept a slight weight penalty and either upgrade or run a second race battery in parallel.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2019, 05:39:28 AM
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2019, 05:39:28 AM
Christine you bast**d! :violent1:
Just before race, when I saw update from Malcolm I think, I thought aaah crap I have bad feeling about this... :(
Well, luckily car was good to go in 2nd, and P4 is quite good. :sign0098:
Just before race, when I saw update from Malcolm I think, I thought aaah crap I have bad feeling about this... :(
Well, luckily car was good to go in 2nd, and P4 is quite good. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2019, 08:42:56 AM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2019, 08:42:56 AM
First thing is to thank Malcolm and Glenn for their help yesterday, but unfortunately due to first a battery error, then my own error, I came away with nothing to show for the day except for an intact healthy car, which a few didn’t due to blow ups and accidents, including the Jenson that destroyed itself and took the barrier down with it, on the warm up lap!. Car was all ready to go in the holding pen to start from 5th on the grid, which was OK considering the amount of traffic and stoppages due to the lemmings chucking themselves off the track.
There was an MX-5 race and this resulted in keep turning the car off and on again and again whist we waited for the track to be cleared for us, for the last time I went to start, nothing and I mean nothing. Turned out the battery must have shorted out inside because half an hour later the battery was still hot, choker is I should have fitted the new battery I had as a spare with me.
Battery changed and as you know I started from the back and off we went, just like F1 it gets progressively harder as you work your way up to the field as you come across the faster cars, but also with no blue flags to warn people I was going to pounce as they too were fighting for their own positions, I had to be maybe even more careful than normal.
Frustrating race with many yellows plus a safety car left me frustrated in the car as I felt I could have caught and maybe overhauled the leaders by the end as it was on a couple of laps at the end I started to get clear laps, which you can see on the lap times.
So as you know I finished 4th from the back of the grid and won my class and was given a results sheet and a trophy to confirm this , BUT was then told with many others to report to the clerk of the course, to be told I was disqualified for overtaking under a yellow, which at the time I obviously did not see or I wouldn't have done so !.
The video will show yellow flags on the right coming up to Druids and I can only figure they came out while I was in the process of actually passing the car I was accused of overtaking and duly explained this to no avail!.
Rules are rules but all day long this guy was dragging drivers up for a lecture etc. As I said, if they had made their mind up to exclude me, it would have been kinder to show me a black flag and done with!
So it's off to Silverstone next Sunday and lets see how we can fair at that one.
There was an MX-5 race and this resulted in keep turning the car off and on again and again whist we waited for the track to be cleared for us, for the last time I went to start, nothing and I mean nothing. Turned out the battery must have shorted out inside because half an hour later the battery was still hot, choker is I should have fitted the new battery I had as a spare with me.
Battery changed and as you know I started from the back and off we went, just like F1 it gets progressively harder as you work your way up to the field as you come across the faster cars, but also with no blue flags to warn people I was going to pounce as they too were fighting for their own positions, I had to be maybe even more careful than normal.
Frustrating race with many yellows plus a safety car left me frustrated in the car as I felt I could have caught and maybe overhauled the leaders by the end as it was on a couple of laps at the end I started to get clear laps, which you can see on the lap times.
So as you know I finished 4th from the back of the grid and won my class and was given a results sheet and a trophy to confirm this , BUT was then told with many others to report to the clerk of the course, to be told I was disqualified for overtaking under a yellow, which at the time I obviously did not see or I wouldn't have done so !.
The video will show yellow flags on the right coming up to Druids and I can only figure they came out while I was in the process of actually passing the car I was accused of overtaking and duly explained this to no avail!.
Rules are rules but all day long this guy was dragging drivers up for a lecture etc. As I said, if they had made their mind up to exclude me, it would have been kinder to show me a black flag and done with!
So it's off to Silverstone next Sunday and lets see how we can fair at that one.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2019, 09:23:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2019, 09:23:03 AM
Omg how frustrating :(
To be honest, I watched the lap times on tsl and I noticed that you went up a position while safety car was out but admittedly the commentary said that the guy in front, his telemetry hadn’t registered and that’s why.
Still a great effort Clive, hats off on charging your way through. Great feedback on the commentary.
And as you said Christine is in one piece, some positives to take from the day :sign0098:
To be honest, I watched the lap times on tsl and I noticed that you went up a position while safety car was out but admittedly the commentary said that the guy in front, his telemetry hadn’t registered and that’s why.
Still a great effort Clive, hats off on charging your way through. Great feedback on the commentary.
And as you said Christine is in one piece, some positives to take from the day :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2019, 11:16:15 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2019, 11:16:15 AM
Yep frustrating but couldve been worse, been interesting to see the vid and if the yellow flag offence is recorded.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
Post by: re japi on March 25, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
Last season, in one of ours rallycross events, one dude overtaked in yellow flag. He protested. Drivers had allready informed conserns and said about position of that flagtower. Also, driver had his incar vid to prove that he couldnt possible see that flag...
Eventhou protest would have went thru, harm was done, he could make to semi finals...
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Eventhou protest would have went thru, harm was done, he could make to semi finals...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on March 25, 2019, 03:59:14 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on March 25, 2019, 03:59:14 PM
Still Clive this has set you up in good stead for the race at Silverstone :sign0098: :sign0098: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2019, 10:31:56 AM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2019, 10:31:56 AM
Here is the video from Race 2 on Sunday ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWPszKcUEQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWPszKcUEQU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 11:22:13 AM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 11:22:13 AM
Many thanks and with commentary :great: ,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2019, 01:18:52 PM
Post by: Casey on March 27, 2019, 01:18:52 PM
Many thanks again for taking the time to put that video together Philip :13: I really enjoyed watching Clive carve his way up the field, especially with the commentary added. It's clear the commentators are is quite fond of rotaries, but one of them insists on calling Clive, "Clive Haynsforth" :))
Sadly, at 5m25-26s on the video, you can see a waved yellow to the left, at the entry to Paddock Hill, which is the reason for disqualification :( Very easy to miss, as Clive would have been concentrating on the road ahead and to the right, the gap he;s trying to exploit to overtake. I've missed a Red Flag on a trackday :-[ in very similar circumstances - track running to the right (where I'm concentrating) and flag way off to the left. I could see it in my video replay, but missed it at the time!
Some pics from the day, including some BMW Cup carnage!
Sadly, at 5m25-26s on the video, you can see a waved yellow to the left, at the entry to Paddock Hill, which is the reason for disqualification :( Very easy to miss, as Clive would have been concentrating on the road ahead and to the right, the gap he;s trying to exploit to overtake. I've missed a Red Flag on a trackday :-[ in very similar circumstances - track running to the right (where I'm concentrating) and flag way off to the left. I could see it in my video replay, but missed it at the time!
Some pics from the day, including some BMW Cup carnage!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 01:32:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2019, 01:32:18 PM
I only saw the yellow flags after casey pointed out the time on the vid, even from the comfort of my chair.
Im sure of others would have missed the yellow flag when entering a corner with a competitor in front of you and youre negotiating which line they are going. Such a shame.
Nethertheless, how fast? its very point n squirt ! see a gap and bang! Ta Ra !
I heard "Clayve Haynsforth" but I think the commentator was getting all excited lol
Impressive stuff! onward and upward!
Im sure of others would have missed the yellow flag when entering a corner with a competitor in front of you and youre negotiating which line they are going. Such a shame.
Nethertheless, how fast? its very point n squirt ! see a gap and bang! Ta Ra !
I heard "Clayve Haynsforth" but I think the commentator was getting all excited lol
Impressive stuff! onward and upward!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 02:02:17 PM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 02:02:17 PM
Thanks Guys,
At the end of the day I should know better, I've been seeing yellow flags since I started racing at 16, worst I've done in the past is overtaken a car, realised then stomped on the brake to let the car behind come back by !
I was obviously asked why, and as I said to the clerk of the course who punished me, I was asked to be super careful when we lined up and I was very aware that every car I came up on had its own position so no blue overtaking flags, which made me that little more cautious as I attacked them making sure they know I was there. I have raced enough to recognise "body" language and you can see this with the MR2.
As I say, my bad, and Hayns forth became Hayns disqualified :-[
At the end of the day I should know better, I've been seeing yellow flags since I started racing at 16, worst I've done in the past is overtaken a car, realised then stomped on the brake to let the car behind come back by !
I was obviously asked why, and as I said to the clerk of the course who punished me, I was asked to be super careful when we lined up and I was very aware that every car I came up on had its own position so no blue overtaking flags, which made me that little more cautious as I attacked them making sure they know I was there. I have raced enough to recognise "body" language and you can see this with the MR2.
As I say, my bad, and Hayns forth became Hayns disqualified :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 02:14:28 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 02:14:28 PM
Ill have to watch it later getting a battering at work today...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2019, 02:33:42 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 27, 2019, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 27, 2019, 01:18:52 PM
Many thanks again for taking the time to put that video together Philip :13: I really enjoyed watching Clive carve his way up the field, especially with the commentary added. It's clear the commentators are is quite fond of rotaries, but one of them insists on calling Clive, "Clive Haynsforth" :))
Sadly, at 5m25-26s on the video, you can see a waved yellow to the left, at the entry to Paddock Hill, which is the reason for disqualification :( Very easy to miss, as Clive would have been concentrating on the road ahead and to the right, the gap he;s trying to exploit to overtake. I've missed a Red Flag on a trackday :-[ in very similar circumstances - track running to the right (where I'm concentrating) and flag way off to the left. I could see it in my video replay, but missed it at the time!
Some pics from the day, including some BMW Cup carnage!
Hello Malcolm, no problem I'm glad you enjoy the videos I put together. Thank you
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2019, 02:48:10 PM
Post by: re japi on March 27, 2019, 02:48:10 PM
Great start! Unfortunately no room for overtaking much...
Car seems to be really fast. And smooth. Did you lose any traction toward end of the race?
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Car seems to be really fast. And smooth. Did you lose any traction toward end of the race?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 06:21:25 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 06:21:25 PM
Me n Diesel ready to watch vids...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 06:42:14 PM
Post by: boosted on March 27, 2019, 06:42:14 PM
Woohoo what a drive. You gotta be happy with the Car mate...looks sorted in the corners...and wow on boost pace..
Shame about the yellow but think your the 1 to catch this year....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
Post by: clive on March 27, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
Jon, You have been around me long enough, never going to be happy with the car as its never going to be quick enough :'(
Jarno made a correct observation :13:, I had wheel spin going on, which hampered me particularly off Clearways I had to ease the throttle on plus a little going up after Paddock.
The video ( my telemetry) showed that when the right rear was unloaded the tyre was spinning losing me traction and initial acceleration.
I didn't have time to build up the Kazz diff so I ran the low mileage RX-8 4.3 LSD which caused this issue, which I will have to put up with at Sliverstone.
Turns out I now need a different diff ratio again.
Where the car is accelerating faster because it spools earlier and holds boost now, I was running out of revs down Cooper straight so couldn't get the car into the left hander anywhere near as fast as I wanted. Between the LSD slipping and running out of revs that could have maybe been 1.5 seconds.
Tonight I dug out the good 4.1 CWP I've had for years out of one of my FD's and will build up the Kazz with the 4.1 for Castle Combe, this will let me stay on the throttle longer after Quarry into the chicane, leading hopefully to faster lap times.
Ode to self, must go faster, must go faster >:D
Jarno made a correct observation :13:, I had wheel spin going on, which hampered me particularly off Clearways I had to ease the throttle on plus a little going up after Paddock.
The video ( my telemetry) showed that when the right rear was unloaded the tyre was spinning losing me traction and initial acceleration.
I didn't have time to build up the Kazz diff so I ran the low mileage RX-8 4.3 LSD which caused this issue, which I will have to put up with at Sliverstone.
Turns out I now need a different diff ratio again.
Where the car is accelerating faster because it spools earlier and holds boost now, I was running out of revs down Cooper straight so couldn't get the car into the left hander anywhere near as fast as I wanted. Between the LSD slipping and running out of revs that could have maybe been 1.5 seconds.
Tonight I dug out the good 4.1 CWP I've had for years out of one of my FD's and will build up the Kazz with the 4.1 for Castle Combe, this will let me stay on the throttle longer after Quarry into the chicane, leading hopefully to faster lap times.
Ode to self, must go faster, must go faster >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2019, 05:44:59 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2019, 05:44:59 AM
Weather, what temperature it was?
Cause in warmer days, without safety car slowing you, those rear wheels will melt...
Hopefully you can sort out that traction problem. Not sure if new diff will help tho. How does rear suspension setup feel? Might need to stiffen "fast out" setup :dontknow:
To me it looked like front tires didnt lose grip when they got warmer. And thats a good thing. I really love the looks how that car behaves. Smooth... And its getting bloody fast! :sign0098:
Cause in warmer days, without safety car slowing you, those rear wheels will melt...
Hopefully you can sort out that traction problem. Not sure if new diff will help tho. How does rear suspension setup feel? Might need to stiffen "fast out" setup :dontknow:
To me it looked like front tires didnt lose grip when they got warmer. And thats a good thing. I really love the looks how that car behaves. Smooth... And its getting bloody fast! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2019, 08:48:15 AM
Track temp was cold at 10 degrees and very dirty so I have seen much better grip at other events !
Getting the Kazz Diff back in the car will sort out the traction issues as the poor little RX-8 LSD obviously cant cope ???.
p.s. front bite was OK
Getting the Kazz Diff back in the car will sort out the traction issues as the poor little RX-8 LSD obviously cant cope ???.
p.s. front bite was OK
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2019, 09:15:25 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2019, 09:15:25 AM
Oh, wau, it was really cold then. So, when temp gets to +20, those tires will grip and also melt under that power 
Yeah, good thing that this diff didnt explode at launch. Yes, lets hope so. Good suspension setup can be a b**ch to find...
Car really turns in nicely, so no problems there
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Yeah, good thing that this diff didnt explode at launch.
Yes, lets hope so. Good suspension setup can be a b**ch to find... Car really turns in nicely, so no problems there
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 30, 2019, 08:31:20 PM
Post by: clive on March 30, 2019, 08:31:20 PM
After Brands and that Philip worked out off the video that, with all the stop start before going out on track, the battery dropped to 10volts and fell over.
So we now have a few mods.
First a digital volt meter because looking at the needle from an angle was giving me a false view!
Next was that the custom alternator only charged fully at 2000 revs mainly due to the load from the two fuel pumps, so the tick-over is a whopping 2050 revs, now sounds fast fast like an F1 car, but it charges at 12.4 with everything turned on, rather than below 11 volts like it did, unless I blipped the throttle to keep charge going in.
Just in-case between myself and my mate Steve today we made the battery super fast to change if required, by fitting a quick release Anderson plug onto the main wires, plus I made a hook to release the rubber holding down strap. I would say 5 seconds to clip a spare battery on the car if I had to.
So we now have a few mods.
First a digital volt meter because looking at the needle from an angle was giving me a false view!
Next was that the custom alternator only charged fully at 2000 revs mainly due to the load from the two fuel pumps, so the tick-over is a whopping 2050 revs, now sounds fast fast like an F1 car, but it charges at 12.4 with everything turned on, rather than below 11 volts like it did, unless I blipped the throttle to keep charge going in.
Just in-case between myself and my mate Steve today we made the battery super fast to change if required, by fitting a quick release Anderson plug onto the main wires, plus I made a hook to release the rubber holding down strap. I would say 5 seconds to clip a spare battery on the car if I had to.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2019, 08:35:38 PM
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2019, 08:35:38 PM
Yesterday when we where dynoing that 13B PP, at 9000rpm charging hitted 25v... Too much?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 30, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
Post by: clive on March 30, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: re japi on March 30, 2019, 08:35:38 PM
Yesterday when we where dynoing that 13B PP, at 9000rpm charging hitted 25v... Too much?
Nah, not too much, hang on whats that smell, O'yes, its fried battery ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2019, 09:18:14 PM
Post by: re japi on March 30, 2019, 09:18:14 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 05, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
Post by: clive on April 05, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
OK, all set for Silverstone on Sunday :great:.
Kazz diffs back in the car along with a 4.1 diff to make the gears longer, so no more wheel spin because the Mazda LSD could not cope with a little more horsepower ::)
Once on the ramp I found that 2 foot of the exhaust pipe had ground away while bottoming out at the bottom of paddock with the suspension under compression.
Because of the battery issue at Brands my mate Steve wired up an Anderson quick disconnect plug and I made up a battery mount, meaning in probably 4 or 5 seconds the spare batter can be clipped in.
A few people are coming along and below is the timetable for anyone wanting to follow the event on https://www.tsl-timing.com/
Kazz diffs back in the car along with a 4.1 diff to make the gears longer, so no more wheel spin because the Mazda LSD could not cope with a little more horsepower ::)
Once on the ramp I found that 2 foot of the exhaust pipe had ground away while bottoming out at the bottom of paddock with the suspension under compression.
Because of the battery issue at Brands my mate Steve wired up an Anderson quick disconnect plug and I made up a battery mount, meaning in probably 4 or 5 seconds the spare batter can be clipped in.
A few people are coming along and below is the timetable for anyone wanting to follow the event on https://www.tsl-timing.com/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2019, 06:40:15 AM
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2019, 06:40:15 AM
Nice! :great:
Good luck for race sir! :13:
Good luck for race sir! :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2019, 09:34:56 AM
Post by: boosted on April 06, 2019, 09:34:56 AM
Good luck for tomoz, fingers x on the weather.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 06, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
Ill shall be tuning in, and hopefully I can finish mowing the meadow before the next race.
No silly starts tomorrow! everything needs to be tickety-boo !
No silly starts tomorrow! everything needs to be tickety-boo !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
Good luck Clive. I hope to be listening in live tomorrow :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 06, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Post by: clive on April 06, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
All scrutineered up and ready to go, rainx put on just in case and covered up with a water proof sheet after what we learned up here last year just in case we get the threatened rain appear .
Big field again with some new cars out including a fully race sorted Nissan 350Z in my class that's just had a big supercharger fitted to boost its power.
I think Jon will know the car from Combe, its a red and white one,
Big field again with some new cars out including a fully race sorted Nissan 350Z in my class that's just had a big supercharger fitted to boost its power.
I think Jon will know the car from Combe, its a red and white one,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2019, 11:13:06 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2019, 11:13:06 PM
Good luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Woo-hoo, 5 laps into qualifying and Clive has posted the quickest time, 1m 06.662s :13: :13:
Ooops, now 2nd fastest, by 0.16s - Gwinnett in the Renault Clio....
Ooops, now 2nd fastest, by 0.16s - Gwinnett in the Renault Clio....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
End of qualifying....
.....
Drum roll......
Clive posted a 1m 06.662, just beaten by Gwinnett in Clio (1m 06.224s) and Hockley in Civic (1m 06.541s)
So, he'll start 3rd on the grid for the race at 14.20
Well done Clive :great:
.....
Drum roll......
Clive posted a 1m 06.662, just beaten by Gwinnett in Clio (1m 06.224s) and Hockley in Civic (1m 06.541s)
So, he'll start 3rd on the grid for the race at 14.20
Well done Clive :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
Cmon captain Clive !
How quick is that cough ....Clio? Must have summat smokey under the hood
Should be a good race from the pointy end this week
How quick is that cough ....Clio? Must have summat smokey under the hood
Should be a good race from the pointy end this week
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 10:31:54 AM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 10:31:54 AM
Blimin missed it..stuck at work..
Good result...
Jamie..not your average Clio abit like Clives 8 not your average 8 lol.
15k engine builds the norm...
The 106 racing last year had a Sandy Brown engine with 280bhp!!! From a 1.6 na..
Theres some serious weaponary in the series.
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Good result...
Jamie..not your average Clio abit like Clives 8 not your average 8 lol.
15k engine builds the norm...
The 106 racing last year had a Sandy Brown engine with 280bhp!!! From a 1.6 na..
Theres some serious weaponary in the series.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 10:41:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 10:41:37 AM
Jesus
All wrapped up in a car made from tin foil with a cage.
No wonder
All wrapped up in a car made from tin foil with a cage.
No wonder
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:24:18 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:24:18 PM
First race, 6 laps in, and Clive is in the lead by 0.5 s :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
Spoke too soon, now in 2nd place by 0.43s - c'mon Clive!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
Clive back in the lead, 6 mins to go, about 6 laps...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
Cant get any commentary on my phone or puter .........grrrrrr
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:28:32 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:28:32 PM
Nope, can't get any commentary here either :(
First three cars are very close, then 3 sec gap.
First three cars are very close, then 3 sec gap.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:29:40 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:29:40 PM
Looks like the battle for 2nd and 3rd places is helping Clive, now nearly second ahead....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
Going to be close, less than 2 minutes left
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:31:05 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:31:05 PM
Noooo, Clive dropped to 3rd place behind the Civic and the Clio :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
4th :( :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:31:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:31:35 PM
CMON CAPTAIN CLIVE !!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Clive seems to have slowed - 8th now, last lap, but losing places :( :( :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:33:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:33:53 PM
Hope christene is behaving
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
1st to 8th last lap incident ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
8th overall - fastest lap of the race on lap 2, 1m6.211s
Last lap was a 1m18s though....
Last lap was a 1m18s though....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:37:26 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:37:26 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 07, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
1st to 8th last lap incident ?
For some reason, Clive's times plummeted for the last 4-5 laps of the race (slowest of any car on last lap). Mechanical problem or contact maybe?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:38:11 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 02:38:11 PM
Let's hope can fix whatever the issue is for the 2nd race, he's got a few hours :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:40:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:40:34 PM
I wouldnt wanna be in that pit lane when he arrives.......
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 07, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
Post by: clive on April 07, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
Lisa here - fuel issue :eek:
Will get sorted out for next race - sick as a parrott :'(
Best race he has had !
Will get sorted out for next race - sick as a parrott :'(
Best race he has had !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Fingers crossed for next race.
Thanks for the update
Thanks for the update
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 03:05:59 PM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 03:05:59 PM
Christine abit Thirsty!!!
You dont arf put us threw it...
Goodluck for 2nd race..
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You dont arf put us threw it...
Goodluck for 2nd race..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
Phew, glad it's something simple to fix ;)
Good luck in 2nd race Clive :)
Good luck in 2nd race Clive :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 07, 2019, 04:46:33 PM
Post by: re japi on April 07, 2019, 04:46:33 PM
Fuel issue? Bugger 
Good luck for second run!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 04:48:43 PM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 04:48:43 PM
Do we need a whip round for some more fuel?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:01:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:01:02 PM
Theyre off !!!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:06:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:06:07 PM
Cmon clive stay in front !!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:08:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:08:55 PM
CMONNNNNNNNNN
stretch those rotary legs !!!!
stretch those rotary legs !!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 07, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
Good Effort Clive !!! :sign0098: :bravo_2: :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 05:18:51 PM
Post by: Casey on April 07, 2019, 05:18:51 PM
4th - lost 2 places on last lap. Lap time dropped by around 4 seconds on last lap?
Shame not on podium, but looked a close race.
Well done Clive :13:
Got fastest lap of race again, 1m 05.774s :notworthy:
Shame not on podium, but looked a close race.
Well done Clive :13:
Got fastest lap of race again, 1m 05.774s :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 05:20:34 PM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 05:20:34 PM
Looks like a lot of fun....shame no commentary to know what was happening.
Looking forward to vids...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 07:18:07 PM
Post by: boosted on April 07, 2019, 07:18:07 PM
Im sure Clive wont mind me posting...Clive gave me a ring on his way home znd although not quite the results he was looking for...which we all know was win 1 win 2....and looked like he was going to...
Clive was buzzing as he is really happy with car as its now. Power and balance. From his conversation cant wait for the vids as he had a lot of fun.
Theres no damage to fix but alittle work on the brakes to be done but ill let Clive explain that.
But just letting everyone know all ok...car got fastest lap too.
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Clive was buzzing as he is really happy with car as its now. Power and balance. From his conversation cant wait for the vids as he had a lot of fun.
Theres no damage to fix but alittle work on the brakes to be done but ill let Clive explain that.
But just letting everyone know all ok...car got fastest lap too.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:17:49 PM
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:17:49 PM
Silverstone 7th April race report.
Qualifying went OK but felt there was more in the car to come, 3rd on the grid with 4 tenths covering the first three of us so I knew it would be close.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and after qualifying I added fuel, putting one ten litre can in and then started putting another in and it ran all over the place and would not take more, also a checked the fuel gauge and that said full and still did at the start!
Having the higher diff ratio that went in last week, I thought, let’s give it a few more revs and promptly lit the tyres up and had to lift off to find grip to go again, played Mr sensible going through Copse but then picked them off to bundle into Maggots and blocked them off as best I could. You will see on the video that I then had a great race swapping the lead again and again racing inches apart with Rich Hockley with his super quick Integra Powered Civic, until lap 11 of 14 when the engine suddenly cut out. Turns out the gauge must have read wrong due to an air lock and found the car would only limp on minimal revs. I kept going because I realised that any position stopped me starting from the back of the grid and limped home in 8th.
Between Races we put in a staggering 42 litres of fuel, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Stupid thing is, before I went out I kept saying I am sure I should have been able to get more fuel in, chances are that if I had tried again, say 10 minutes after it would have taken more fuel regardless of what the gauge was reading.
Race two was a bit more interesting at the start and I was very conscious of the Civic getting a big lead before I could get to him. I had a Subaru on the second row that with his 4wd must have made a good start to lead into the first couple of corners and by the time I worked my way past the other seven cars the Civic was off and gone, so it was head down time to go get him.
Coming out of Luffield I had way too much wheel spin in the first race but just 2 lbs out of the rear tyres cured this and helped launch the car out through Woodcote and little by little I reeled the quick Civic in and got the lead, a lead I was 100% sure I could keep, but then my brakes started to fail, first the pedal went half way down telling me I now only had rears, then literally no pedal any more as I wore the rear brakes to nothing apparently the rear discs were by now glowing red hot.
The last lap was interesting, going as fast as I could with no brakes at all and twice I though a crash was on the cards. The outcome was to lose 3rd literally on the line!
I panicked more in the pit lane when I thought I was going to run the marshal over who was directing me when I realised that even at 10mph the car would not stop :'(.
Always prided myself on being kind on brakes but this time with three big braking areas even the race pads I had that were new before the few laps of a track day were totally worn out, so they effectively did two qualifying’s and two races :-[.
OK, here’s the event positives.
Essentially, I wore the brakes out because I am carrying much more speed down the straight now.
I actually won the two trophies for first in class in each race plus I finally received my trophy for winning the Championship last year, but best of all, I found a second in the second race which gave me fastest laps overall in both races which I had never managed before.
Wow the thing finally has some grunt now and I don’t think I have ever been this happy with any race car, just got to get the discs skimmed, some better race “endurance†pads fitted plus cooling ducts fitted front and rear.
Here’s an interesting comparison I made which also made me happy (even though I lost two overall wins)
Rod Birley who is the winningest driver in the UK with his Ford Escort WRC (4wd, 600bhp and on slicks) set a 1:02 in his Race, that he won against some crazy machinery on Saturday.
This is compared to my 1:05 on 470bhp on Road based track day tyres and no sequential gear box, means that if I was on a decent set of slicks I should be able to find a comparable time.
To me this puts it into prospective that we now have a very quick car, just got to make it finish at the sharp end more regularly!
Huge thanks must go to all you good people out there who have helped and supported me to get the car up-n-running and now competitive :icon_thumleft:
Qualifying went OK but felt there was more in the car to come, 3rd on the grid with 4 tenths covering the first three of us so I knew it would be close.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and after qualifying I added fuel, putting one ten litre can in and then started putting another in and it ran all over the place and would not take more, also a checked the fuel gauge and that said full and still did at the start!
Having the higher diff ratio that went in last week, I thought, let’s give it a few more revs and promptly lit the tyres up and had to lift off to find grip to go again, played Mr sensible going through Copse but then picked them off to bundle into Maggots and blocked them off as best I could. You will see on the video that I then had a great race swapping the lead again and again racing inches apart with Rich Hockley with his super quick Integra Powered Civic, until lap 11 of 14 when the engine suddenly cut out. Turns out the gauge must have read wrong due to an air lock and found the car would only limp on minimal revs. I kept going because I realised that any position stopped me starting from the back of the grid and limped home in 8th.
Between Races we put in a staggering 42 litres of fuel, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Stupid thing is, before I went out I kept saying I am sure I should have been able to get more fuel in, chances are that if I had tried again, say 10 minutes after it would have taken more fuel regardless of what the gauge was reading.
Race two was a bit more interesting at the start and I was very conscious of the Civic getting a big lead before I could get to him. I had a Subaru on the second row that with his 4wd must have made a good start to lead into the first couple of corners and by the time I worked my way past the other seven cars the Civic was off and gone, so it was head down time to go get him.
Coming out of Luffield I had way too much wheel spin in the first race but just 2 lbs out of the rear tyres cured this and helped launch the car out through Woodcote and little by little I reeled the quick Civic in and got the lead, a lead I was 100% sure I could keep, but then my brakes started to fail, first the pedal went half way down telling me I now only had rears, then literally no pedal any more as I wore the rear brakes to nothing apparently the rear discs were by now glowing red hot.
The last lap was interesting, going as fast as I could with no brakes at all and twice I though a crash was on the cards. The outcome was to lose 3rd literally on the line!
I panicked more in the pit lane when I thought I was going to run the marshal over who was directing me when I realised that even at 10mph the car would not stop :'(.
Always prided myself on being kind on brakes but this time with three big braking areas even the race pads I had that were new before the few laps of a track day were totally worn out, so they effectively did two qualifying’s and two races :-[.
OK, here’s the event positives.
Essentially, I wore the brakes out because I am carrying much more speed down the straight now.
I actually won the two trophies for first in class in each race plus I finally received my trophy for winning the Championship last year, but best of all, I found a second in the second race which gave me fastest laps overall in both races which I had never managed before.
Wow the thing finally has some grunt now and I don’t think I have ever been this happy with any race car, just got to get the discs skimmed, some better race “endurance†pads fitted plus cooling ducts fitted front and rear.
Here’s an interesting comparison I made which also made me happy (even though I lost two overall wins)
Rod Birley who is the winningest driver in the UK with his Ford Escort WRC (4wd, 600bhp and on slicks) set a 1:02 in his Race, that he won against some crazy machinery on Saturday.
This is compared to my 1:05 on 470bhp on Road based track day tyres and no sequential gear box, means that if I was on a decent set of slicks I should be able to find a comparable time.
To me this puts it into prospective that we now have a very quick car, just got to make it finish at the sharp end more regularly!
Huge thanks must go to all you good people out there who have helped and supported me to get the car up-n-running and now competitive :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on April 08, 2019, 07:24:43 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on April 08, 2019, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:17:49 PM
Silverstone 7th April race report.
Qualifying went OK but felt there was more in the car to come, 3rd on the grid with 4 tenths covering the first three of us so I knew it would be close.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and after qualifying I added fuel, putting one ten litre can in and then started putting another in and it ran all over the place and would not take more, also a checked the fuel gauge and that said full and still did at the start!
Having the higher diff ratio that went in last week, I thought, let’s give it a few more revs and promptly lit the tyres up and had to lift off to find grip to go again, played Mr sensible going through Copse but then picked them off to bundle into Maggots and blocked them off as best I could. You will see on the video that I then had a great race swapping the lead again and again racing inches apart with Rich Hockley with his super quick Integra Powered Civic, until lap 11 of 14 when the engine suddenly cut out. Turns out the gauge must have read wrong due to an air lock and found the car would only limp on minimal revs. I kept going because I realised that any position stopped me starting from the back of the grid and limped home in 8th.
Between Races we put in a staggering 42 litres of fuel, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Stupid thing is, before I went out I kept saying I am sure I should have been able to get more fuel in, chances are that if I had tried again, say 10 minutes after it would have taken more fuel regardless of what the gauge was reading.
Race two was a bit more interesting at the start and I was very conscious of the Civic getting a big lead before I could get to him. I had a Subaru on the second row that with his 4wd must have made a good start to lead into the first couple of corners and by the time I worked my way past the other seven cars the Civic was off and gone, so it was head down time to go get him.
Coming out of Luffield I had way too much wheel spin in the first race but just 2 lbs out of the rear tyres cured this and helped launch the car out through Woodcote and little by little I reeled the quick Civic in and got the lead, a lead I was 100% sure I could keep, but then my brakes started to fail, first the pedal went half way down telling me I now only had rears, then literally no pedal any more as I wore the rear brakes to nothing apparently the rear discs were by now glowing red hot.
The last lap was interesting, going as fast as I could with no brakes at all and twice I though a crash was on the cards. The outcome was to lose 3rd literally on the line!
I panicked more in the pit lane when I thought I was going to run the marshal over who was directing me when I realised that even at 10mph the car would not stop :'(.
Always prided myself on being kind on brakes but this time with three big braking areas even the race pads I had that were new before the few laps of a track day were totally worn out, so they effectively did two qualifying’s and two races :-[.
OK, here’s the event positives.
Essentially, I wore the brakes out because I am carrying much more speed down the straight now.
I actually won the two trophies for first in class in each race plus I finally received my trophy for winning the Championship last year, but best of all, I found a second in the second race which gave me fastest laps overall in both races which I had never managed before.
Wow the thing finally has some grunt now and I don’t think I have ever been this happy with any race car, just got to get the discs skimmed, some better race “endurance†pads fitted plus cooling ducts fitted front and rear.
Here’s an interesting comparison I made which also made me happy (even though I lost two overall wins)
Rod Birley who is the winningest driver in the UK with his Ford Escort WRC (4wd, 600bhp and on slicks) set a 1:02 in his Race, that he won against some crazy machinery on Saturday.
This is compared to my 1:05 on 470bhp on Road based track day tyres and no sequential gear box, means that if I was on a decent set of slicks I should be able to find a comparable time.
To me this puts it into prospective that we now have a very quick car, just got to make it finish at the sharp end more regularly!
Huge thanks must go to all you good people out there who have helped and supported me to get the car up-n-running and now competitive :icon_thumleft:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:40:26 PM
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:40:26 PM
Woohoo!!! Ive got the same pads...hope they last a trackday ....
I cant wait to see vids!!!
Combe next...ill be there....
Hard work is paying off!!!
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I cant wait to see vids!!!
Combe next...ill be there....
Hard work is paying off!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:40:26 PM
Woohoo!!! Ive got the same pads...hope they last a trackday ....
Wouldn't worry too much Jon, I have sold DS3000 for FD's for probably 18 years with never a complaint,
You have to think I had 3 BIG braking area's per lap trying to slow the car from well over 100 mph each time which obviously generated a huge amount of heat
The car will now start sprouting brake cooling ducts front and rear, never needed them before, TILL NOW !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:53:02 PM
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:53:02 PM
Cool. Shes using some fuel...you gonna brim for race 1? And then brim again for race 2 and see what shes using?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:56:48 PM
Post by: clive on April 08, 2019, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 08, 2019, 07:53:02 PM
Cool. Shes using some fuel...you gonna brim for race 1? And then brim again for race 2 and see what shes using?
It will make the car carry more weight, but that's the only way I'm going to find out how much fuel I need.
If you remember, I even pulled out the fuel pot and connected it out of the car to make sure it read zero, which it did ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 08:14:03 PM
Post by: boosted on April 08, 2019, 08:14:03 PM
I think you have too...shes gotta be in single figures mpg wise...60l tank...im sure someone clever could do some sums...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 09, 2019, 05:36:01 AM
Post by: re japi on April 09, 2019, 05:36:01 AM
She loves to drink :13: damn...
How was rear tyres, losing grip in end of the race?
Still, very well done Sir :sign0098:
How was rear tyres, losing grip in end of the race?
Still, very well done Sir :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 09, 2019, 08:19:30 AM
Post by: clive on April 09, 2019, 08:19:30 AM
Quote from: re japi on April 09, 2019, 05:36:01 AM
How was rear tyres, losing grip in end of the race?
Tyres were good and predictable, so pleased I stayed with the Toyo R888R as I looked into changing these over the winter for other brands,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 09, 2019, 08:42:19 AM
Post by: re japi on April 09, 2019, 08:42:19 AM
Ok, good
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 06:40:24 PM
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 06:40:24 PM
In the words of Monty Python "My Brakes are bereth of life" !
I really wasn't joking when I said I ran out of brakes at Silverstone ;).
With with the material gone, I used the metal backing to try and stop, then I even tried using the caliper piston against the disc as it made its way through the brake, but that didn't help much either because the brake fluid fell out ::)-----------no idea why the car wouldn't stop, but brakes or no brakes, I'm blowed if I was going to pull off >:D
Got a little write up in Autosport magazine, that left its readers in no doubt that the Civic only won both races because of my "issues" ;)
I really wasn't joking when I said I ran out of brakes at Silverstone ;).
With with the material gone, I used the metal backing to try and stop, then I even tried using the caliper piston against the disc as it made its way through the brake, but that didn't help much either because the brake fluid fell out ::)-----------no idea why the car wouldn't stop, but brakes or no brakes, I'm blowed if I was going to pull off >:D
Got a little write up in Autosport magazine, that left its readers in no doubt that the Civic only won both races because of my "issues" ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2019, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2019, 06:45:00 PM
Holy crap, those really are worn out
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 12, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
Post by: boosted on April 12, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
Oh my thats possibly the worst ive ever seen..that mustve been scary as hell.
Reminded me of the tour of the JCB factory i did years ago...they were demonstrating friction welding....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 06:54:00 PM
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 12, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
friction welding....
Stainless Steel to mild Steel ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 12, 2019, 06:55:43 PM
Post by: boosted on April 12, 2019, 06:55:43 PM
Lol if it wasnt for the brake fluid !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Oh my giddy aunt ! Lolllllll
Be ok for an mot that would
Were you literally stood on the brakes with both feet trying to pull Christine to a halt?...
Be ok for an mot that would
Were you literally stood on the brakes with both feet trying to pull Christine to a halt?...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 09:15:23 PM
Post by: clive on April 12, 2019, 09:15:23 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 12, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Oh my giddy aunt ! Lolllllll
Be ok for an mot that would
Were you literally stood on the brakes with both feet trying to pull Christine to a halt?...
You have heard the saying pedal to the metal, well this was pedal to the bulkhead ???.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2019, 04:51:35 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2019, 04:51:35 AM
Well you got her back in one piece, didn't trade paint with any of the competitors, and live to fight another day :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2019, 09:22:23 AM
Post by: Casey on April 13, 2019, 09:22:23 AM
Very impressive you finished the race at all, and with the car intact, looking at those pads!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 13, 2019, 09:41:37 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 13, 2019, 09:41:37 AM
Time for a new pit crew Clive lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2019, 11:06:41 AM
Post by: boosted on April 13, 2019, 11:06:41 AM
That'll be me next at Combe.....cameras, fuel, tyres, brakes oil, coolant...we are gonna leave no stone unturned!!! :P
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:05:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:05:21 AM
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2299347993636777/
Dunno why, just thought of Clive psyching himself up in this fashion lol
Dunno why, just thought of Clive psyching himself up in this fashion lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2019, 09:44:04 AM
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2019, 09:44:04 AM
Sorry for the delay posting this, I was on holiday. Here is Race 1 from Silverstone. Out of fuel at 12:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOdJwmm8-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOdJwmm8-Y
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
That poor steering wheel !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2019, 10:35:08 AM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2019, 10:35:08 AM
Thats extremely frustrating...what was the fuel gauge reading at first point of fuel cut? Is simply a case of bending sender arm to correct?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Silverstone Race 2 No Brakes :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPAF3dfoD8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPAF3dfoD8M
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2019, 11:33:03 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2019, 11:33:03 PM
Blimey, thats frightening !!! Making good use of engine braking and little else at the end.
Cars got epic pace now thats easy to see....mmmmm Castle combe laptime.....i reckon 1.12.... :13:
Cars got epic pace now thats easy to see....mmmmm Castle combe laptime.....i reckon 1.12.... :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 11:31:45 AM
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:05:21 AM
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2299347993636777/
Dunno why, just thought of Clive psyching himself up in this fashion lol
Nah, I do things that are much more extreme than that ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: clive on April 20, 2019, 11:31:45 AMQuote from: Jamie R on April 18, 2019, 06:05:21 AM
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2299347993636777/
Dunno why, just thought of Clive psyching himself up in this fashion lol
Nah, I do things that are much more extreme than that ;)
Good lord lol I shudder to think now
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
Sorry haven't been around, having a few days away, back Wednesday.
OK, to catch up a little.
No ideas why the tank thing got weird, second time its been an issue since fitting new pumps last year.
As John knows, first time the syphon pipe clip was dislodged, but that now has a tight cable tie around it so it cannot happen again, also the pot was pulled and connected to make sure it read zero on the gauge.
Extra weight or not, I will now start each event with a brimmed tank and go back to putting two cans after each run.
As for the brakes, I now have my fingers crossed every thing arrives from Good-Win-Racing and Racingbrake in America.
These are brake ducts, a pair of callipers, rotor rings plus the parts to rebuild the old calipers.
Going onto an endurance pad set up as used in GT formulas and Nascar etc, Hawk DTC 60 front and DTC 30 rear, they should stop the thing and last!
But with that said I am going to start looking at bigger discs and four pots for the back as a future upgrade.
OK, to catch up a little.
No ideas why the tank thing got weird, second time its been an issue since fitting new pumps last year.
As John knows, first time the syphon pipe clip was dislodged, but that now has a tight cable tie around it so it cannot happen again, also the pot was pulled and connected to make sure it read zero on the gauge.
Extra weight or not, I will now start each event with a brimmed tank and go back to putting two cans after each run.
As for the brakes, I now have my fingers crossed every thing arrives from Good-Win-Racing and Racingbrake in America.
These are brake ducts, a pair of callipers, rotor rings plus the parts to rebuild the old calipers.
Going onto an endurance pad set up as used in GT formulas and Nascar etc, Hawk DTC 60 front and DTC 30 rear, they should stop the thing and last!
But with that said I am going to start looking at bigger discs and four pots for the back as a future upgrade.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 12:01:58 PM
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 12:01:58 PM
As for the racing itself, fairly happy now I have seen the videos because, I can see for myself that while the car was operating properly, from the chirps on the tyres and the steering wheel reactions that I was indeed getting the Maximum out of the car on the day as regards braking and cornering.
Jamie as for race prep, I do none, zip, ziltch, in fact I get a little worried that I very rarely even get nervous going to the grid ;)
Jamie as for race prep, I do none, zip, ziltch, in fact I get a little worried that I very rarely even get nervous going to the grid ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 12:35:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2019, 12:35:07 PM
That's probably born out of confidence and years of experience :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 09:34:32 PM
Post by: clive on April 20, 2019, 09:34:32 PM
Not sure if you all noticed but Philip has done his magic again and you will see he has put the rear view in the bottom corner, his editing skills get better and better. :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2019, 11:27:58 PM
Post by: Casey on April 20, 2019, 11:27:58 PM
Superb race videos again Philip. That first race was so close between you and the Civic, until the shortage of fuel killed your chances.
Great viewing :13:
Great viewing :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 07:28:24 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 07:28:24 PM
Here we go, Track Attack have compiled a promo video
Must admit some of the shots really shows is how it looks and feels out there for real. As you will see it gets a little close at times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtRRZCMY9EM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2RxZWg95reYfSAMeVpPA9BlqjKbk-nOlQ7sR7sHbhjLsaXCpyiWx8-Kjc
Must admit some of the shots really shows is how it looks and feels out there for real. As you will see it gets a little close at times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtRRZCMY9EM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2RxZWg95reYfSAMeVpPA9BlqjKbk-nOlQ7sR7sHbhjLsaXCpyiWx8-Kjc
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 07:55:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 07:55:22 PM
Impressive stuff!!!!
Be nice to watch it at a venue near me.......stands look a bit empty
I'm assuming it's open to public for a fee on the days you race?
Be nice to watch it at a venue near me.......stands look a bit empty
I'm assuming it's open to public for a fee on the days you race?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 09:24:26 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2019, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 07:55:22 PM
Impressive stuff!!!!
Be nice to watch it at a venue near me.......stands look a bit empty
I'm assuming it's open to public for a fee on the days you race?
Castle Combe next Monday, come and meet Jon and some of the other club / Rotary guys that are coming along.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 09:35:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2019, 09:35:39 PM
Is that bank holiday Monday?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 05:51:34 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 05:51:34 AM
Yes the bank hols monday!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 06:06:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 06:06:21 AM
You got insomnia too big guy?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 06:15:41 AM
Post by: boosted on April 27, 2019, 06:15:41 AM
Not insomnia lol sitting on the throne!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 07:15:34 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 27, 2019, 07:15:34 AM
Oh my good god, lolllllll
Multi tasking eh haha.
Well on that note time for toast, couple of layers of fibreglass, then nip up to Nottingham for this 5 speeder, call back at the cousins in Loughborough for more spares from his broken up 8 ( think he's planning on building a rotary powered lotus 7 rep )
Busy day, have fun chaps
Multi tasking eh haha.
Well on that note time for toast, couple of layers of fibreglass, then nip up to Nottingham for this 5 speeder, call back at the cousins in Loughborough for more spares from his broken up 8 ( think he's planning on building a rotary powered lotus 7 rep )
Busy day, have fun chaps
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 27, 2019, 07:27:09 PM
Post by: clive on April 27, 2019, 07:27:09 PM
Been stressing about getting the car ready for Coombe----------------no parts!
I have been waiting for Racingbrake to ship the brake parts with a customer order for some brakes for a Ferrari Californian to get the car up n running again.
I initially ordered the pair of Rotor rings 2 new pistons and a set of seals, then realised with my luck that if the caliper leaked I wouldn't be racing, plus lose my entrance money so I ordered a pair of new calipers and help the order up again !
The order finally left America last night and will hopefully be here Monday.
At least my new cooling backplates arrived from Good-Win-Racing, so along with 2.5" air intakes and brake duct hose from Merlin I was at least able to get those parts on the car ready for the brake parts to arrive.
Real pleased the inlets sat nicely along side the oil coolers :great:
I have been waiting for Racingbrake to ship the brake parts with a customer order for some brakes for a Ferrari Californian to get the car up n running again.
I initially ordered the pair of Rotor rings 2 new pistons and a set of seals, then realised with my luck that if the caliper leaked I wouldn't be racing, plus lose my entrance money so I ordered a pair of new calipers and help the order up again !
The order finally left America last night and will hopefully be here Monday.
At least my new cooling backplates arrived from Good-Win-Racing, so along with 2.5" air intakes and brake duct hose from Merlin I was at least able to get those parts on the car ready for the brake parts to arrive.
Real pleased the inlets sat nicely along side the oil coolers :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2019, 09:35:19 AM
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2019, 09:35:19 AM
Fingers crossed it all arrives on time!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
Yeah I hope they will arrive on time too.
I managed to convince the Mrs that coming to castle Combe on Monday was better than doing anything else.
Got a hillclimb event to go to on the Sunday so she took some convincing lol
Will be there around 10
Happy to get dirty if anyone needs a spare pair of hands. I Think I can operate a trolley jack. Or I can lick ice cream n watch, both is good lol
See you then :icon_thumleft:
I managed to convince the Mrs that coming to castle Combe on Monday was better than doing anything else.
Got a hillclimb event to go to on the Sunday so she took some convincing lol
Will be there around 10
Happy to get dirty if anyone needs a spare pair of hands. I Think I can operate a trolley jack. Or I can lick ice cream n watch, both is good lol
See you then :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 28, 2019, 02:55:36 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2019, 02:55:36 PM
Should be OK, we had this shipment put on our UPS account so it should be here Tuesday.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 28, 2019, 05:00:56 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2019, 05:00:56 PM
Just received timetable and Paddock layout.
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/INetCache/Content.Outlook/W74905HA/TIMETABLE%20Final.pdf
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Desktop/Paddock%20MayDay%20Madness%202019_%20F.pdf
Sorry files wont upload as they are PDF's
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/INetCache/Content.Outlook/W74905HA/TIMETABLE%20Final.pdf
file:///C:/Users/Mazda%20Rotary%20Parts/Desktop/Paddock%20MayDay%20Madness%202019_%20F.pdf
Sorry files wont upload as they are PDF's
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
Same place as last year Clive!!! Aiming to arrive at 9am..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 04:59:17 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 04:59:17 PM
Looks like we can go to the Ball ;) Still staggers me that the parts left America Friday night and are here today, we live in such a small world now :great:
Jon, yep, same place also did you realise we are cannon fodder again, out first as track cleaners qualifying at 8.30 ::)
Going to be interesting as I am going to have to bed the new brake pads in all round for the first few laps !
Jon, yep, same place also did you realise we are cannon fodder again, out first as track cleaners qualifying at 8.30 ::)
Going to be interesting as I am going to have to bed the new brake pads in all round for the first few laps !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
ohhh shiny...they look nice!! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:34:08 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2019, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
ohhh shiny...they look nice!! :great:
Just go to find the time to fit them now, work keeps getting in the way ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 05:17:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 30, 2019, 05:17:33 AM
That's brake porn!
Yup that's impressive delivery,
If only things were that quick here in the uk! Good ole American customer service, I was impressed when ordering stuff for the truck.
Had a faulty caliper once that I bought 18 months previously, the seat at the bottom of the bleed nipple was cast badly and wouldn't seal.
New caliper in the post no questions asked. I guess the blame culture in America has its advantages. :icon_thumleft:
Yup that's impressive delivery,
If only things were that quick here in the uk! Good ole American customer service, I was impressed when ordering stuff for the truck.
Had a faulty caliper once that I bought 18 months previously, the seat at the bottom of the bleed nipple was cast badly and wouldn't seal.
New caliper in the post no questions asked. I guess the blame culture in America has its advantages. :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 02, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
We now finally have brakes!
Turns out stopping the car on the rear brakes didn't do those pads any good either, I did say I had NO brakes :-[
Brakes bled out real easy from empty all by myself with this simple little valve I got from e-bay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-easy-bleeding-with-a-brake-one-way-valve-bleeder-Motorcycle-Vehicle-Kart/201290277673?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Turns out stopping the car on the rear brakes didn't do those pads any good either, I did say I had NO brakes :-[
Brakes bled out real easy from empty all by myself with this simple little valve I got from e-bay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-easy-bleeding-with-a-brake-one-way-valve-bleeder-Motorcycle-Vehicle-Kart/201290277673?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2019, 08:28:34 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2019, 08:28:34 AM
I like that little helper , I too shall be getting one of them
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
Evening Clive,
Have you got a time table for tomorrows events please?
Thanks
J
Have you got a time table for tomorrows events please?
Thanks
J
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 05, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
Post by: boosted on May 05, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
Easiest thing Jamie get on Castle combe Website..click on Mayday Madness race..print off pdf of timetable.
Put some chairs in boot and rain mack and sunscream...
Put some beers in a cooler and get the Wifey to drive lol.
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Put some chairs in boot and rain mack and sunscream...
Put some beers in a cooler and get the Wifey to drive lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 05, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 05, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
Easiest thing Jamie get on Castle combe Website..click on Mayday Madness race..print off pdf of timetable.
Put some chairs in boot and rain mack and sunscream...
Put some beers in a cooler and get the Wifey to drive lol.
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Will do, ill check it later....
chairs done, sarnies in the morning, rain mack check, ill take a cap to protect my skull, everything else just goes conker colour i dont go red thankfully
Great idea on the beers, but I think Ill get the look! Ill save the beers for when i get home lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 05, 2019, 11:03:08 PM
Post by: clive on May 05, 2019, 11:03:08 PM
Timetable here:-
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=timetables/2019/191968.pdf (Track attack series)
Qualifying 8.30
Race 1 12.50pm
Race 8 16.30
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=timetables/2019/191968.pdf (Track attack series)
Qualifying 8.30
Race 1 12.50pm
Race 8 16.30
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
Thanks Clive, good luck qualifying :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
On pole for first Race at 12.50 :13:
Time 1.15.179 88.59 mph
Lisa
Time 1.15.179 88.59 mph
Lisa
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2019, 09:33:54 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2019, 09:33:54 AM
:13: :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2019, 09:35:01 AM
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2019, 09:35:01 AM
Wooohoooo, well done Clive :13:
Good luck in the races!
Good luck in the races!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 01:00:21 PM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 01:00:21 PM
First race - WINNER :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2019, 03:42:39 PM
Post by: rote8 on May 06, 2019, 03:42:39 PM
Without wishing to jinx the second race can I just say that this was a forgone conclusion with you on pole. :notworthy: :)) They shall not pass. :nono:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Post by: Casey on May 06, 2019, 04:48:49 PM
Great start to the day :13:
Fingers crossed for 2nd race :)
Fingers crossed for 2nd race :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:01 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:01 PM
Clive may have got the Trophys...welldone..
But i got a tyre pressure gauge..oops..
Got home in my pocket...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/7834253b06a83e5a9287cc105778e62f.jpg)
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But i got a tyre pressure gauge..oops..
Got home in my pocket...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/7834253b06a83e5a9287cc105778e62f.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Super Day,
Great to finally meet Clive and Mr & Mrs Boosted! :13:
Its nice to meet "car guys" that are genuine, hospitable and personable.... no pretence and bo**ox.
Really enjoyed ourselves today.... Dont forget to straighten out that splitter captain!
Sorry for the poor quality pics, zoomed right in on the phone and just realised theres a thumb print on the lens.....rookie error. :violent1:
Great to finally meet Clive and Mr & Mrs Boosted! :13:
Its nice to meet "car guys" that are genuine, hospitable and personable.... no pretence and bo**ox.
Really enjoyed ourselves today.... Dont forget to straighten out that splitter captain!
Sorry for the poor quality pics, zoomed right in on the phone and just realised theres a thumb print on the lens.....rookie error. :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 06, 2019, 06:15:01 PM
Clive may have got the Trophys...welldone..
But i got a tyre pressure gauge..oops..
Got home in my pocket...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190506/7834253b06a83e5a9287cc105778e62f.jpg)
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Haha tea leaf !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Post by: boosted on May 06, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
Possession is 9 /10 of the law...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 10:14:29 PM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 10:14:29 PM
Huge thanks to everyone who came along to day.
Great to catch up with Dave and Sally and to finally meet Jamie and his beloved.
Cars home all safe and sound and ready to fight another day :mrgreen:
Found two seconds a lap over previous times, not a bad day sitting on Pole twice with one overall win and a trophy for the class win in the second race.
First race was great as it became like a game of chess with myself and the chasing car using back markers to block each other off, but I got him back to take the win :) Video should be entertaining.
In the second , I had the option of driving off the track completely or having the eventual winner drive into me with lots of damage to both cars at old Paddock corner, frighted the life out of one of the guys behind me when he saw me fully on the grass because he didn't know if I could hold it or it was going to result in a biggey. But that was it, momentum was lost for the win while I cleaned the tyres off to "regroup"!
To be honest the car was junk for the second race because I flattend out the rear wing and suddenly had no grip off the corner leading onto the straight which meant the car was slower down the straight, plus no grip to accelerate out of Quarry !
Worked out driving home that I need to put the wing back into its previous position and stiffen the rear end via a stronger anto roll bar to tryand make the car "turn" better for the next race at Snetterton
p.s. 36 races now since the engine has been out of the cars, lots of piston race cars would love that record ;)
p.p.s special thanks to Jon for assisting all day
Great to catch up with Dave and Sally and to finally meet Jamie and his beloved.
Cars home all safe and sound and ready to fight another day :mrgreen:
Found two seconds a lap over previous times, not a bad day sitting on Pole twice with one overall win and a trophy for the class win in the second race.
First race was great as it became like a game of chess with myself and the chasing car using back markers to block each other off, but I got him back to take the win :) Video should be entertaining.
In the second , I had the option of driving off the track completely or having the eventual winner drive into me with lots of damage to both cars at old Paddock corner, frighted the life out of one of the guys behind me when he saw me fully on the grass because he didn't know if I could hold it or it was going to result in a biggey. But that was it, momentum was lost for the win while I cleaned the tyres off to "regroup"!
To be honest the car was junk for the second race because I flattend out the rear wing and suddenly had no grip off the corner leading onto the straight which meant the car was slower down the straight, plus no grip to accelerate out of Quarry !
Worked out driving home that I need to put the wing back into its previous position and stiffen the rear end via a stronger anto roll bar to tryand make the car "turn" better for the next race at Snetterton
p.s. 36 races now since the engine has been out of the cars, lots of piston race cars would love that record ;)
p.p.s special thanks to Jon for assisting all day
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 10:18:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 06, 2019, 10:18:31 PM
Good result today, long day for you after that drive back.
Good luck for the next round, see you at jdm
Good luck for the next round, see you at jdm
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Post by: clive on May 06, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Thanks Jamie,
Found a few pic already.
Found a few pic already.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2019, 06:01:54 AM
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2019, 06:01:54 AM
Good job Sir! Congrats!
How was those brakes now?
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How was those brakes now?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on May 07, 2019, 08:00:03 AM
Post by: rote8 on May 07, 2019, 08:00:03 AM
Car and driver now meeting their potential. Good results, and grass tracking means live to fight another day. All good. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2019, 08:28:26 AM
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2019, 08:28:26 AM
Thanks for the thanks mate! I didnt really have much todo car is sorted...hard work paying off....company and atmosphere grear. Got to play with some mx5s too...lol.
I got your tyre pressure gauge ill bring it to Snetterton or JDM whichever sooner..
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I got your tyre pressure gauge ill bring it to Snetterton or JDM whichever sooner..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2019, 08:42:35 AM
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2019, 08:42:35 AM
Well done Clive. Great results and good to see you completed 2 races with no car issues :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 10:40:01 AM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 10:40:01 AM
Clive it was great to catch up yesterday and well done on a successful couple of races. I still have to go through my photos but pulled out the snap below of the car in P1 with crew.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
Few more shots from yesterday. Certainly close racing at the front!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2019, 04:54:28 PM
Post by: Casey on May 07, 2019, 04:54:28 PM
Some great action shots there Dave :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2019, 08:19:06 PM
Post by: boosted on May 07, 2019, 08:19:06 PM
Yes great photos.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2019, 08:41:41 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2019, 08:41:41 PM
Indeed, damn sight better than mine lol
Not buying a camera when I have car parts to buy.
Not that I'd know a good camera from a bad one haha
Not buying a camera when I have car parts to buy.
Not that I'd know a good camera from a bad one haha
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 10:53:55 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 07, 2019, 10:53:55 PM
Thanks guys. Went on a college photography course recently so playing with a few of the things we were taught. Still lots to learn and improve.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 07, 2019, 11:38:58 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 07, 2019, 11:38:58 PM
Here you go Race 1 The WIN. I couldn't sync the footage at first then I had a closer look. Was that you Mr Boosted playing with the front camera? :nono:
;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKjlSpUCzg
;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKjlSpUCzg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 12:09:59 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 12:09:59 AM
Well done!
I've really enjoyed watching a few of your videos. Editing is excellent too.
One thing I'm struggling with though is, how do they make up so much ground on you under braking and through the twisty bits?
There are certain bits where the black Clio looks 20 or 30 meters behind you and then a corner and he's checking the speed on your speedo.
The reason why I'm struggling is that the RX has always been renowned for the braking and handling.
I didn't realise the Clio could catch you so much.
It makes for great entertainment until you got the straight and blow them away... Until the next corner...
How is this possible?
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I've really enjoyed watching a few of your videos. Editing is excellent too.
One thing I'm struggling with though is, how do they make up so much ground on you under braking and through the twisty bits?
There are certain bits where the black Clio looks 20 or 30 meters behind you and then a corner and he's checking the speed on your speedo.
The reason why I'm struggling is that the RX has always been renowned for the braking and handling.
I didn't realise the Clio could catch you so much.
It makes for great entertainment until you got the straight and blow them away... Until the next corner...
How is this possible?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 08:07:07 AM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 08:07:07 AM
Quote from: Prototype on May 07, 2019, 11:38:58 PMYep hands up...i pressed record..but already recording...oops.
Here you go Race 1 The WIN. I couldn't sync the footage at first then I had a closer look. Was that you Mr Boosted playing with the front camera? :nono:
;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKjlSpUCzg
Great vid.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 08:39:15 AM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 08:39:15 AM
Quote from: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 12:09:59 AM
Well done!
I've really enjoyed watching a few of your videos. Editing is excellent too.
One thing I'm struggling with though is, how do they make up so much ground on you under braking and through the twisty bits?
There are certain bits where the black Clio looks 20 or 30 meters behind you and then a corner and he's checking the speed on your speedo.
The reason why I'm struggling is that the RX has always been renowned for the braking and handling.
I didn't realise the Clio could catch you so much.
It makes for great entertainment until you got the straight and blow them away... Until the next corner...
How is this possible?
First up, Huge thanks for the wonderful split video Philip has once again put together.
To answer the above question / Power to Weight Ratio . is the answer
The cars behind not only have decent power with the Civic at 350BHP + but also weigh Soooooooooo much less,
My car probably weighs 1250 Kilo and the Clio would be less than 500 maybe 450 !
This means they have has less weight to accelerate, plus so much less weight to stop.
Bearing in mind you can change any engine into our cars from the Marque you run, i.e. with the Mazda I can fit any engine Mazda make into the chassis, this means I have no idea what the Renault's are running or the power they produce, but I do know both the black and the red cars are running the same much more powerful engines for this season.
If you listen, again and again you will hear my cars tyres "chirping" under braking so, trust me I am on the absolute limit Everywhere ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2019, 08:45:17 AM
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2019, 08:45:17 AM
This is the footage from the car behind Ash Bruneau
https://youtu.be/xQQGnwi2520?t=1m41s
https://youtu.be/xQQGnwi2520?t=1m41s
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:21:50 AM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:21:50 AM
Good vid too best bit is the Silver Fox after the race :13:
Shows the difference in handling dynamics.
Interesting to see race 2...from both Vids.....
Shows the difference in handling dynamics.
Interesting to see race 2...from both Vids.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 09:35:11 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: clive on May 08, 2019, 08:39:15 AMWhat! Is that all they weigh! I'm shocked.that explains it then. So you're double the weight. Wow.Quote from: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 12:09:59 AM
Well done!
I've really enjoyed watching a few of your videos. Editing is excellent too.
One thing I'm struggling with though is, how do they make up so much ground on you under braking and through the twisty bits?
There are certain bits where the black Clio looks 20 or 30 meters behind you and then a corner and he's checking the speed on your speedo.
The reason why I'm struggling is that the RX has always been renowned for the braking and handling.
I didn't realise the Clio could catch you so much.
It makes for great entertainment until you got the straight and blow them away... Until the next corner...
How is this possible?
First up, Huge thanks for the wonderful split video Philip has once again put together.
To answer the above question / Power to Weight Ratio . is the answer
The cars behind not only have decent power with the Civic at 350BHP + but also weigh Soooooooooo much less,
My car probably weighs 1250 Kilo and the Clio would be less than 500 maybe 450 !
This means they have has less weight to accelerate, plus so much less weight to stop.
Bearing in mind you can change any engine into our cars from the Marque you run, i.e. with the Mazda I can fit any engine Mazda make into the chassis, this means I have no idea what the Renault's are running or the power they produce, but I do know both the black and the red cars are running the same much more powerful engines for this season.
If you listen, again and again you will hear my cars tyres "chirping" under braking so, trust me I am on the absolute limit Everywhere ;)
Good thing you got the power down the straights. Makes for an interesting race from circuit to circuit.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2019, 02:06:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2019, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: clive on May 08, 2019, 08:39:15 AMQuote from: therealbrad_wil on May 08, 2019, 12:09:59 AM
Well done!
I've really enjoyed watching a few of your videos. Editing is excellent too.
One thing I'm struggling with though is, how do they make up so much ground on you under braking and through the twisty bits?
There are certain bits where the black Clio looks 20 or 30 meters behind you and then a corner and he's checking the speed on your speedo.
The reason why I'm struggling is that the RX has always been renowned for the braking and handling.
I didn't realise the Clio could catch you so much.
It makes for great entertainment until you got the straight and blow them away... Until the next corner...
How is this possible?
First up, Huge thanks for the wonderful split video Philip has once again put together.
To answer the above question / Power to Weight Ratio . is the answer
The cars behind not only have decent power with the Civic at 350BHP + but also weigh Soooooooooo much less,
My car probably weighs 1250 Kilo and the Clio would be less than 500 maybe 450 !
This means they have has less weight to accelerate, plus so much less weight to stop.
Bearing in mind you can change any engine into our cars from the Marque you run, i.e. with the Mazda I can fit any engine Mazda make into the chassis, this means I have no idea what the Renault's are running or the power they produce, but I do know both the black and the red cars are running the same much more powerful engines for this season.
If you listen, again and again you will hear my cars tyres "chirping" under braking so, trust me I am on the absolute limit Everywhere ;)
Advantage all round for the Clio, the corner speed is quicker certainly through bobbies, less weight transfer in the bends, can run softer springs to absorb the undulations keeping all 4 wheels planted.
I'm not surprised at the Clio being so light, watching the vid his bonnet is flapping and the top corner of the door looks like it wants to bend back on itself, surely some composite.
The 8 is a heavy car, I remember stripping mine apart, the rear doors are made of 3 planets, and you've shaved a lot off them I noticed. And that beam underneath linking the gearbox to the diff, not sure if you're running yours still Clive but that's hefty.
I don't know why rx8 didn't run an Ali diff, whether it's to do with the LSD I'm not sure.
We could wonder the what ifs forever, a win is a win, all fair game, same again at snetterton, :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 03:08:45 PM
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 03:08:45 PM
Yeah, Clios and Hondas are very light... And that gives them massive advantage against fat 8 in corners and braking...
But 350bhp is a LOT! I mean "happy numbers at dyno" alot. Makes me want to question about that...
Anyhoo, those few cars seems to be really fast. And saw that Clive bushed his car to limits
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But 350bhp is a LOT! I mean "happy numbers at dyno" alot. Makes me want to question about that...
Anyhoo, those few cars seems to be really fast. And saw that Clive bushed his car to limits
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Clive, were your car strugling to get power down in acceleration from corners? Rear seemed abit wobly...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 08, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
While you are all waiting to see Race 2 here is a sample. Two into one won't go!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3d-hQQmQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3d-hQQmQY
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
Do or die that...Thankfully Clive has the experience to see it and get off the throttle.
Else 2 cars in the barriers...
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Else 2 cars in the barriers...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:33:15 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2019, 09:33:15 PM
Vulnerable there as lighter cars can straight line from esses where as larger cars arch the corner but both need the exit rumble strip...
I used to straight line in my colt gti.
Red mist...
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I used to straight line in my colt gti.
Red mist...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 09:38:07 PM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: re japi on May 08, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Clive, were your car strugling to get power down in acceleration from corners? Rear seemed abit wobly...
Your right for the second race as I had lost downforce and grip by making the rear wing flat.
Really enjoyed the video from Ash's car as I have never been able to see the car for myself going around any track properly.
As I told Philip, seeing the car it looks like its handling very very well and yet from the drivers seat it feels like junk!
As for the video clip, had I not seen the Civic coming, we would have both come together in a big way, as you can see I literally drove off the track to get out of his way. You can see how he comes right out to the white line that there was no way he would not have run into me had I not taken avoiding action.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 10:02:55 PM
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2019, 10:02:55 PM
I have looked those first vids few times now...
I saw from your own in-car vid, that you didnt have crip that much that you should have. And rear view confirmed that...
We have found out in rallycross, that studying in-car footage, and especially footage from other cars, there can be lots to learn how your car behaves. When driving, you cant feel all those little things, but footage can show something that you havent notice and might give you idea for different line for curve for example. Studying different vids really helps.
At first I noticed that you really are pushing that car. Havent heard your tyres complaining so hard before. So thats awesome, you know what your car can do, and you now trust her to do it!
Then I noticed something else. I reckon that you follow some amount rearmirrors to see what car behind does? Some curves, missed apex, braking too late, wrong line braking. Correct? I know you had to see what that fast car behind you is doing, but following him you wont be able to go fast as you can. Ofcourse, defending your line and being first at corner is different thing, but my opinion is that you did that few times without you shouldnt had to do it, and he was able to get closer to you...
Anyhoo, Im not trying to tell you how to race, thats just my few cents...
Allthose being said, even without race win, that was best race I have seen from you. Confidense for Christine is one of those reasons. And Christine can do it, as she now shows it, that is proven! And cause that Civic is scary fast...
Now, time to check race 2 vids few times
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I saw from your own in-car vid, that you didnt have crip that much that you should have. And rear view confirmed that...
We have found out in rallycross, that studying in-car footage, and especially footage from other cars, there can be lots to learn how your car behaves. When driving, you cant feel all those little things, but footage can show something that you havent notice and might give you idea for different line for curve for example. Studying different vids really helps.
At first I noticed that you really are pushing that car. Havent heard your tyres complaining so hard before. So thats awesome, you know what your car can do, and you now trust her to do it!
Then I noticed something else. I reckon that you follow some amount rearmirrors to see what car behind does? Some curves, missed apex, braking too late, wrong line braking. Correct? I know you had to see what that fast car behind you is doing, but following him you wont be able to go fast as you can. Ofcourse, defending your line and being first at corner is different thing, but my opinion is that you did that few times without you shouldnt had to do it, and he was able to get closer to you...
Anyhoo, Im not trying to tell you how to race, thats just my few cents...
Allthose being said, even without race win, that was best race I have seen from you. Confidense for Christine is one of those reasons. And Christine can do it, as she now shows it, that is proven! And cause that Civic is scary fast...
Now, time to check race 2 vids few times
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 10:15:49 PM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2019, 10:15:49 PM
Good observations.
As for grip, don't forget we are only allowed trackday tires not proper grippy slicks so grip at the limit is never going to be very good.
( I raced on slicks for years and there's no comparison as the difference is like day and night)
Yes few apex's missed but then I never said I was perfect :13:
As for grip, don't forget we are only allowed trackday tires not proper grippy slicks so grip at the limit is never going to be very good.
( I raced on slicks for years and there's no comparison as the difference is like day and night)
Yes few apex's missed but then I never said I was perfect :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2019, 05:50:15 AM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2019, 05:50:15 AM
Oh, I thought you can use slicks... In that case, grip is actually quite good, cause she has some weight and power... :great:
Looking at Civics in-car vid, compared to your lines, its actually quite obvious that with lighter car, one can chase perfect line for curves. For example those chikanes(damn, I dont know how to type it, those fast s turns anyway ;D). With light car, you dont have to brake so hard, you can carry much speed thru them and have much faster exit...
I dont know how much Christine weights now, but looking those vids, I reckon she behaves quite well. Being abit chubby and has massive grunt, she has to be and hand full. But seems that she isnt. And thats quite amazing, you have done nice setup...
Sorry Sir, didnt want to sound rude. ;D Those were just stupid observations. Fact is that you and car is really showing potential now. And Im really really happy about that, after these few unlucky years. Looking forward whats next. And really hoping to see live her run again someday :sign0098:
Looking at Civics in-car vid, compared to your lines, its actually quite obvious that with lighter car, one can chase perfect line for curves. For example those chikanes(damn, I dont know how to type it, those fast s turns anyway ;D). With light car, you dont have to brake so hard, you can carry much speed thru them and have much faster exit...
I dont know how much Christine weights now, but looking those vids, I reckon she behaves quite well. Being abit chubby and has massive grunt, she has to be and hand full. But seems that she isnt. And thats quite amazing, you have done nice setup...
Sorry Sir, didnt want to sound rude. ;D Those were just stupid observations. Fact is that you and car is really showing potential now. And Im really really happy about that, after these few unlucky years. Looking forward whats next. And really hoping to see live her run again someday :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 09, 2019, 09:38:44 AM
Post by: clive on May 09, 2019, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 09, 2019, 05:50:15 AM
Sorry Sir, didnt want to sound rude. ;D Those were just stupid observations. Fact is that you and car is really showing potential now. And Im really really happy about that, after these few unlucky years. Looking forward whats next. And really hoping to see live her run again someday
Don't worry, observations are good as I may see or learn something that has been overlooked.
At around 1250 kilo, she's a big old girl to stop and turn in tight corners ::)
Ordered a new racing beat rear roll bar last night to go onto the car for Snetterton as their later bar can be made stiffer than their older version I have fitted.
I need to get the car to rotate better on entry to the corners and the stiffer bar should help stop the car pitching into understeer once i'm actually in the entrance of a corner.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 09, 2019, 01:25:44 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 09, 2019, 01:25:44 PM
Here is Race 2 Castle Combe 6th May 2019. Enjoy ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rhzR892MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rhzR892MI
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2019, 03:13:10 PM
Post by: re japi on May 09, 2019, 03:13:10 PM
I reckon it was best option to back off from that situation. Cause even if Clive and Honda would be side be side, Honda had inner side and he would brake much later, maybe forcing Clive out with wider race line...
Damn those little buggers are fast Thru S turns and to main straight, they can open up so much earlier... Ofcourse wight differense is massive...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:28:25 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:28:25 PM
If Clive had stayed on his line..wouldve pitman manoevered the civic and both cars going off onto probably the least run off area on the circuit...both cars i believe wouldve been totalled in the barriers and probably a few from behind if they bounced back on circuit after hitting barrier...it wasnt a clean move it was a do or or die blocking move luckily Clive had the spacial awareness to see it coming and get of the throttle...
.its not a move I ever expect Clive to make and tbh if he did i probably wouldnt go along to support! Different story if the Civic had made the move and left room for Clive for a Drag race to Tower corner. Red mist me thinks interesting to see it from onboard of Civic if that changes my mind...
Looking at Tsl timing top 4 all good faster for race 2.
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.its not a move I ever expect Clive to make and tbh if he did i probably wouldnt go along to support! Different story if the Civic had made the move and left room for Clive for a Drag race to Tower corner. Red mist me thinks interesting to see it from onboard of Civic if that changes my mind...
Looking at Tsl timing top 4 all good faster for race 2.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:40:35 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:40:35 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2019, 03:46:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2019, 03:46:52 PM
Just watched them , that was too close . Good awareness
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
Post by: boosted on May 09, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
Im wanting for the Civic to post the Race win.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
Looking at that a few times, Im amazed Clive remained as calm as he was after the race.
Maybe Clive was like a swan! Calm and graceful above the water, and flapping about like a b****** underneath lol.
It was an aggressive move by the Honda either way up.
Clive, I know you mentioned previously that moving the wing had an effect on the performance of the car, but it certainly made for entertaining viewing from a complete "not even a novice" sat here watching.
Definately looked like you were working harder second race.
Productive day, points in the bag !
Maybe Clive was like a swan! Calm and graceful above the water, and flapping about like a b****** underneath lol.
It was an aggressive move by the Honda either way up.
Clive, I know you mentioned previously that moving the wing had an effect on the performance of the car, but it certainly made for entertaining viewing from a complete "not even a novice" sat here watching.
Definately looked like you were working harder second race.
Productive day, points in the bag !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:12:38 AM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:12:38 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
Looking at that a few times, Im amazed Clive remained as calm as he was after the race.
I did have "words" with Rich when we got out of the cars and made it very clear that had I not seen him running out towards me moved out of the way we would have both taken cars home in carrier bags.
I also told him that it wasn't good if he felt he had to pull moves like that "just to win"
Lastly, I told him that whilst I don't want to race like that , I OWE HIM ONE !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:32:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:32:15 AM
Good for you, take no prisoners!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:47:44 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 08:47:44 AM
Quote from: clive on May 10, 2019, 08:12:38 AMQuote from: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
Looking at that a few times, Im amazed Clive remained as calm as he was after the race.
I did have "words" with Rich when we got out of the cars and made it very clear that had I not seen him running out towards me moved out of the way we would have both taken cars home in carrier bags.
I also told him that it wasn't good if he felt he had to pull moves like that "just to win"
Lastly, I told him that whilst I don't want to race like that , I OWE HIM ONE !
I saw Mr Civic head back up the M5 on the way home, had I have known I could have forced him onto the hard shoulder in the same manner as he forced you on the grass ......... just because lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 10, 2019, 08:56:53 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 10, 2019, 08:56:53 AM
Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 12:21:35 PM
Post by: clive on May 10, 2019, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 09, 2019, 08:23:00 PM
It was an aggressive move by the Honda either way up.
Productive day, points in the bag !
To quote the words from a fairly famous book , forgive them for they know not what they do ;D ;D
Yes Jamie, came home home with an intact car, spent the day with a lot of nice people who came along and brought home some Tupperware :great:
O'yes, forgot to say brakes were fine this time out (see picture below from our office ;))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 01:00:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 10, 2019, 01:00:58 PM
Hahahaha
Superb! :13: :13:
Superb! :13: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 16, 2019, 09:05:12 PM
Post by: clive on May 16, 2019, 09:05:12 PM
Timetable is out for next Saturdays race at Snetterton.
Few changes to the car taking place which I will put up over the next few days.
Few changes to the car taking place which I will put up over the next few days.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 18, 2019, 07:08:07 PM
Post by: clive on May 18, 2019, 07:08:07 PM
After lessons learnt at Combe I know Snetterton well enough to know its going to be a battle in the slower corners and around Coram leading into Murrays with the front four cars so a few changes have been made to get more GRIP.
By taking off the rear wings angle of attack and losing grip Combe show made me have a think and "hopefully" I have made the correct decisions.
By putting more wing on, which I have, this will make the car more susceptible to understeer, or push as the Americans like to term it, so I have modified the rear anti roll bar with an extra hope which makes the bar effectively shorter and stiffer. I didn't want to go stiffer rear springs which would have the same effect as the stiffer rear bar, but with the stiffer springs traction can suffer.
Next up, is after much discussion with Xtreme Tyres I have ordered a set which you can see below.
Apparently they will come on sooner but have the same temperature range as the duration of the race goes on as the Toyo's, but give me grip----we shall see!.
Somehow I need to get this extra set to the track so I can go back to the Toyo's after Qualifying if need be.
I have now plumbed the rear brakes with some cold air via proper 2.5" cooling hose as I have had hot rear brakes at Snetterton before!
Last job in the week will be extending the exhaust tip and blocking up the holes in the boot because with the fuel additive the cars fuming more and after the race at Combe I was feeling the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning------------ Christine, still keeps trying to kill me ::)
By taking off the rear wings angle of attack and losing grip Combe show made me have a think and "hopefully" I have made the correct decisions.
By putting more wing on, which I have, this will make the car more susceptible to understeer, or push as the Americans like to term it, so I have modified the rear anti roll bar with an extra hope which makes the bar effectively shorter and stiffer. I didn't want to go stiffer rear springs which would have the same effect as the stiffer rear bar, but with the stiffer springs traction can suffer.
Next up, is after much discussion with Xtreme Tyres I have ordered a set which you can see below.
Apparently they will come on sooner but have the same temperature range as the duration of the race goes on as the Toyo's, but give me grip----we shall see!.
Somehow I need to get this extra set to the track so I can go back to the Toyo's after Qualifying if need be.
I have now plumbed the rear brakes with some cold air via proper 2.5" cooling hose as I have had hot rear brakes at Snetterton before!
Last job in the week will be extending the exhaust tip and blocking up the holes in the boot because with the fuel additive the cars fuming more and after the race at Combe I was feeling the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning------------ Christine, still keeps trying to kill me ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 20, 2019, 07:50:18 AM
Post by: clive on May 20, 2019, 07:50:18 AM
Just had a look for last years time for my target times.
Last year the car was well off pace qualifying seventh with 2.17, pole was 2.13 !
Hopefully with the Turbo, remap, diff ratio change etc, I can eat into this time.
Last year the car was well off pace qualifying seventh with 2.17, pole was 2.13 !
Hopefully with the Turbo, remap, diff ratio change etc, I can eat into this time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2019, 07:56:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2019, 07:56:36 AM
With the improvements, I've no doubt there will be quicker times.
But no mods can account for psychotic Honda drivers.
Fingers crossed on the day :icon_thumleft:
But no mods can account for psychotic Honda drivers.
Fingers crossed on the day :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 24, 2019, 02:38:11 PM
Post by: clive on May 24, 2019, 02:38:11 PM
Racing at Snetteron tomorrow:-
Below is the link to the timetable and you will be able to follow live.
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/192131
Track Attack Nippon Challenge / Tricolore Trophy / Multi Marques
Qualifying 10:50
Race 2
14:45
Race 6
17.35
Below is the link to the timetable and you will be able to follow live.
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/192131
Track Attack Nippon Challenge / Tricolore Trophy / Multi Marques
Qualifying 10:50
Race 2
14:45
Race 6
17.35
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 24, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Best of British luck Captain ! :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 24, 2019, 02:47:56 PM
Post by: Casey on May 24, 2019, 02:47:56 PM
See you there Clive :13:
I'll aim to get there around 9.00-9.30am
I'll aim to get there around 9.00-9.30am
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 24, 2019, 11:08:17 PM
Post by: clive on May 24, 2019, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 24, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Best of British luck Captain ! :icon_thumleft:
Thanks Jamie , there should be commentary on TSL and I'm sure Malcolm will update as well :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 06:30:01 AM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 06:30:01 AM
Good luck Clive!! Soz i cant make it ill be listening on Tsl.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 09:50:40 AM
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 09:50:40 AM
Nice day for racing here at Snetterton :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
:occasion14:Snetterton, 7th on grid for 1st race, finished 6th.
Correction, finished 7th. Tannoy announcement incorrect!
Correction, finished 7th. Tannoy announcement incorrect!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
Missed the race doh...time got away from me .
Goodluck for 2nd ill be listening.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 06:03:39 PM
Post by: Casey on May 25, 2019, 06:03:39 PM
Woohoo, 2nd race. Congrats Clive. From 7th on the grid to 2nd place overall finish and a class win :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 06:04:23 PM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2019, 06:04:23 PM
Woohoo welldone.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 25, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
Missed the second race. Bloody gardening
Well done captain Clive, more points!!
Well done captain Clive, more points!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on May 26, 2019, 07:49:21 AM
Post by: re japi on May 26, 2019, 07:49:21 AM
Good job Sir
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 26, 2019, 11:32:38 AM
Post by: Casey on May 26, 2019, 11:32:38 AM
Just sorting through my pics and thought I'd throw this one up to start. Race 1, down Bentley straight...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 11:34:57 AM
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 11:34:57 AM
Nice piccy. Whens the race report Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 26, 2019, 11:35:47 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 26, 2019, 11:35:47 AM
Beat me to it
Yep very good photo Malcolm
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 26, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
Post by: Casey on May 26, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
A few more pics whilst we await the race report :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on May 26, 2019, 01:18:33 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on May 26, 2019, 01:18:33 PM
Well done Clive. Looks like you found some lap time in race 2. Will be interested to hear from your perspective.
Great pictures Malcolm.
Great pictures Malcolm.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
Snetterton 26th May.
Race report /
With new hard compound Xtreme VR2 tyres fitted I found that whilst the car felt better during turn in due to the rear bar being set stiffer but still not very good in qualifying compared to others ahead even though the car was faster around Snetterton than last year and ended up a disappointing 7th.
Come the race, god it was boring and spent the race holding off Steve Cassar in his Honda Type R, after the race we were both perplexed that we were running 2 seconds a lap down on our qualifying, finishing as we started, a very distant 7th and 8th.
I really could not work out why the car had no pace and was all set to put the car back on the rolling road!
So disappointed was I that at riding around without even being able to see the leaders, I was literally all set to put the car on the trailer before I had a rethink.
I did realise the car was a little “fluffy†but only the top at the last 200 revs so went for a spark plug change plus I put the rear wing flap back to its original setting and as I said to Lisa, lets treat the track as a big rolling road.
As soon as I got out for the warm up lap the car was instantly more responsive, so it was just the plugs. I also realised this is why the car seemed to lack grunt in the second race at Combe last time out.
This time the tyres had grip from the off, so they obviously needed a couple of heat cycles to bring them alive properly. Sadly there will be no video but for those who heard the commentary I was determined that I would not let them drop me at the start from 7th on the grid for this second race!
The super quick Nova thing promptly became a lemming throwing itself off the track leaving me to attack the super quick Cleo’s behind the Rich Hockley Hoda Type That had made a run for it!
Working my way to an eventual second overall and finding a huge improvement from 2-17 seconds down to a 2-13 and more importantly having a really enjoyable race, largely due to the new tyres.
If any of you have driven Snetterton will know that from Wilson through Bomb Hole into Coram it's tough and for the first time I could get the car down all the way through Bomb hole and out literally flat out in third without lifting and for once the other cars could not make up ground on me :).
For this week I need to change the fuel pot again as the fuel gauge has died and then as Lisa said, with the different tyres and suspension set up, let’s take it to JDM on Saturday to check out the differences, so that’s what we are going to do.
Lastly, thanks to Malcolm for being "spanner man" for the day :great:
Race report /
With new hard compound Xtreme VR2 tyres fitted I found that whilst the car felt better during turn in due to the rear bar being set stiffer but still not very good in qualifying compared to others ahead even though the car was faster around Snetterton than last year and ended up a disappointing 7th.
Come the race, god it was boring and spent the race holding off Steve Cassar in his Honda Type R, after the race we were both perplexed that we were running 2 seconds a lap down on our qualifying, finishing as we started, a very distant 7th and 8th.
I really could not work out why the car had no pace and was all set to put the car back on the rolling road!
So disappointed was I that at riding around without even being able to see the leaders, I was literally all set to put the car on the trailer before I had a rethink.
I did realise the car was a little “fluffy†but only the top at the last 200 revs so went for a spark plug change plus I put the rear wing flap back to its original setting and as I said to Lisa, lets treat the track as a big rolling road.
As soon as I got out for the warm up lap the car was instantly more responsive, so it was just the plugs. I also realised this is why the car seemed to lack grunt in the second race at Combe last time out.
This time the tyres had grip from the off, so they obviously needed a couple of heat cycles to bring them alive properly. Sadly there will be no video but for those who heard the commentary I was determined that I would not let them drop me at the start from 7th on the grid for this second race!
The super quick Nova thing promptly became a lemming throwing itself off the track leaving me to attack the super quick Cleo’s behind the Rich Hockley Hoda Type That had made a run for it!
Working my way to an eventual second overall and finding a huge improvement from 2-17 seconds down to a 2-13 and more importantly having a really enjoyable race, largely due to the new tyres.
If any of you have driven Snetterton will know that from Wilson through Bomb Hole into Coram it's tough and for the first time I could get the car down all the way through Bomb hole and out literally flat out in third without lifting and for once the other cars could not make up ground on me :).
For this week I need to change the fuel pot again as the fuel gauge has died and then as Lisa said, with the different tyres and suspension set up, let’s take it to JDM on Saturday to check out the differences, so that’s what we are going to do.
Lastly, thanks to Malcolm for being "spanner man" for the day :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:10:46 PM
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:10:46 PM
Woohoo well done..that explains it!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Here we go Jon, this picture shows how hard they try!
These may look like normal cars but god knows what goes into them moneywise!
I watched one of the Type R's grenade a 3k gear box and another I race against downloading and analysing and overlaying his laps, lap by lap on a 2K V-Box!!, cant say they dont take their racing seriously then ;)
These may look like normal cars but god knows what goes into them moneywise!
I watched one of the Type R's grenade a 3k gear box and another I race against downloading and analysing and overlaying his laps, lap by lap on a 2K V-Box!!, cant say they dont take their racing seriously then ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:30:32 PM
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:30:32 PM
Yes with the gt class system you can see what power there running..gt 150 to gt350.
They dont have that so good knows what power that at ...but clios quicker than a gt300 civic says it all really...
I know the 106 last year a 1.6 was 280bhp...and weighed the same as a paper cup!
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They dont have that so good knows what power that at ...but clios quicker than a gt300 civic says it all really...
I know the 106 last year a 1.6 was 280bhp...and weighed the same as a paper cup!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:31:30 PM
Post by: clive on May 26, 2019, 07:31:30 PM
Forgot to say, having seen Malcolm's picture and this one below, I didn't realise how much flame the car produces :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:32:37 PM
Post by: boosted on May 26, 2019, 07:32:37 PM
Thats where all the fuel is going...direct injection fuel engine cooling...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: exiled-viking on May 26, 2019, 11:52:24 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on May 26, 2019, 11:52:24 PM
:13: well done for Race on Sunday you will soon need a larger trophy cabinet :great: :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 27, 2019, 08:14:48 PM
Post by: clive on May 27, 2019, 08:14:48 PM
With no forward camera working for race two, real pleased that Tony Hunter who started Race 2 in front of me has put his video up.
This has really let me see that the car is 100% better through Bomb Hole and off the end of the main straight where before I got eaten by these cars previously :great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleLSB5tA0g&feature=share
You will see my car from around 9 minutes on.
This has really let me see that the car is 100% better through Bomb Hole and off the end of the main straight where before I got eaten by these cars previously :great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleLSB5tA0g&feature=share
You will see my car from around 9 minutes on.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2019, 03:39:15 AM
Post by: boosted on May 28, 2019, 03:39:15 AM
Lots of flames less smoke...has the extended exhaust tip aided exhaust exit combustion?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 03, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
Post by: clive on June 03, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
Well, I found out why the fuel has been reading wrong then not at all, I recon Harry Houdini got in there and performed a magic trick to wrap the wire around the float rod!
The whole assembly had come un-clipped from the inside the bottom of the tank.
The whole assembly had come un-clipped from the inside the bottom of the tank.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2019, 08:56:20 PM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2019, 08:56:20 PM
Thatll do it..even though 2 senders its still 1 circuit...thats gotta be fuel slosh moving the float up n down....twist the cable before plugging in to take up the slack?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 03, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 03, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
What the ........****
Can only put it down to the g's your putting on the car
Can only put it down to the g's your putting on the car
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 08:17:16 AM
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 08:17:16 AM
Must admit its real weird as I have never had that side of the tank apart and never heard of this happening.
Jamie is maybe right, so I will go slower around corners ;)
Jamie is maybe right, so I will go slower around corners ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 09:10:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 09:10:32 AM
I don't think that's the best answer ole bean lol
Jon had a fair point of twisting the wires up before fitting.
Im trying to picture it in my head, fuel sloshing forward, wires moving forward n back, float going up n down.
I think you have invented the worlds first automotive 400 bhp ( twin turbo lol ) weaving / knitting machine :sign0098:
Jon had a fair point of twisting the wires up before fitting.
Im trying to picture it in my head, fuel sloshing forward, wires moving forward n back, float going up n down.
I think you have invented the worlds first automotive 400 bhp ( twin turbo lol ) weaving / knitting machine :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 12:17:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 12:17:46 PM
The little turbo is what 150bhp then the biggie boy turbo does the rest...yeah...compound turbos cool...and its a hybrid as it has a battery and starter motor...could be argued that part of engine running is in effect down to amps not fossil fuel.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
The white plastic bit sits on the bottom of the tank and twists and turns to lock into place, somehow the thing had twisted and fell off its mount.
Hopefully is was just never locked in place correctly at the factory,
Hopefully is was just never locked in place correctly at the factory,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 04:02:24 PM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2019, 04:02:24 PM
Have you electrically plugged it back in to confirm its working? And if it was physically unplugged and say stuck on full...then that explains the false reading as the gauge although 1 circuit is a sum on the 2 readings from each sender. So unless both reading empty gauge can never read empty. Hope that makes sense
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 04:44:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 04, 2019, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: clive on June 04, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
The white plastic bit sits on the bottom of the tank and twists and turns to lock into place, somehow the thing had twisted and fell off its mount.
Hopefully is was just never locked in place correctly at the factory,
Its a nice little design feature that.
I cut the bottom of the plastic stock tank and retained the twist lock that's plastic welded to the tank and bolted that feature in my aluminium tank.
Using Mazdas R&D experience for my benefit. No point trying to re-invent the wheel lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 09:08:01 PM
Post by: clive on June 04, 2019, 09:08:01 PM
Tanks reading 1/2 tank, which is about right :13:
Jamie, you knew more than me as I had never been inside that part of the tank before.
Jamie, you knew more than me as I had never been inside that part of the tank before.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 09, 2019, 06:39:32 PM
Post by: clive on June 09, 2019, 06:39:32 PM
A video has just gone up showing Malcolm waving to his fans and then at the end, me on the podium !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekPdYrDyzAQ&fbclid=IwAR2ItrXLjJhXkS8z3GVNkSkG_5cU26DLVz_D_4qGY0wtZxsIMo5fzFe88UY
Had the weekend working on the race car getting ready for Mallory Park next Sunday .
Fed up of having a scolding hot left foot, I lined the footwell with Zircotech Form
https://www.zircotec.com/zircoflex-form/
Took the Turbo off and cured the leak from the down pipe so hopefully Christine cant keep tying to gas me!
Next I pulled the wheels off to change the front pads and found the rears were also shot!.
I was really happy with the performance of the latest Racingbrake pads with Hawk DTC30 in the rear but still only got two events plus last weeks JDM !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekPdYrDyzAQ&fbclid=IwAR2ItrXLjJhXkS8z3GVNkSkG_5cU26DLVz_D_4qGY0wtZxsIMo5fzFe88UY
Had the weekend working on the race car getting ready for Mallory Park next Sunday .
Fed up of having a scolding hot left foot, I lined the footwell with Zircotech Form
https://www.zircotec.com/zircoflex-form/
Took the Turbo off and cured the leak from the down pipe so hopefully Christine cant keep tying to gas me!
Next I pulled the wheels off to change the front pads and found the rears were also shot!.
I was really happy with the performance of the latest Racingbrake pads with Hawk DTC30 in the rear but still only got two events plus last weeks JDM !!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 09, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
Post by: Casey on June 09, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
:13: :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 15, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
Post by: clive on June 15, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
All set for Mallory Park , new brake pads fitted plus new medium compound tyres up the inside.
Not expecting too much at this track due to the layout of the track which I think will suit FWD plus I haven’t driven the track for 10 years!
Time table for Sunday https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/192362
Times are
Qualy, 9.30 GMT
Race One 12.05GMT
Race Two 15.50 GMT
Not expecting too much at this track due to the layout of the track which I think will suit FWD plus I haven’t driven the track for 10 years!
Time table for Sunday https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/192362
Times are
Qualy, 9.30 GMT
Race One 12.05GMT
Race Two 15.50 GMT
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 15, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Post by: Casey on June 15, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Good luck Clive :great:
TBH, I think the circuit should suit your car :)
It will be interesting to see how you fare on Gerard's Bend against the FWD jobbies. A bit like Coram but exiting onto a long straight. The 8 seems to love long sweeping bends, so if you can get good exit speed out of there you should do well. The problem will be Shaw's hairpin, where the FWD's will close up and try to overtake, but it's followed by a long straight where you can get any lost place back.... in theory.... ;)
Meanwhile, I'll sail on ;)
TBH, I think the circuit should suit your car :)
It will be interesting to see how you fare on Gerard's Bend against the FWD jobbies. A bit like Coram but exiting onto a long straight. The 8 seems to love long sweeping bends, so if you can get good exit speed out of there you should do well. The problem will be Shaw's hairpin, where the FWD's will close up and try to overtake, but it's followed by a long straight where you can get any lost place back.... in theory.... ;)
Meanwhile, I'll sail on ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 15, 2019, 11:47:58 AM
Post by: clive on June 15, 2019, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Casey on June 15, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Good luck Clive :great:
TBH, I think the circuit should suit your car :)
It will be interesting to see how you fare on Gerard's Bend against the FWD jobbies. A bit like Coram but exiting onto a long straight. The 8 seems to love long sweeping bends, so if you can get good exit speed out of there you should do well. The problem will be Shaw's hairpin, where the FWD's will close up and try to overtake, but it's followed by a long straight where you can get any lost place back.... in theory.... ;)
Meanwhile, I'll sail on ;)
Hmmmmm, we shall see ;)
p.s. If it rains, lets hop I don't sail on :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2019, 12:24:09 PM
Good luck for the next round Clive.
God not been to Mallory since I was 17, Big Ben was just a wrist watch back then
God not been to Mallory since I was 17, Big Ben was just a wrist watch back then
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Good luck for tomoz Clive...im feeling a double win me thinks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:00:12 AM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:00:12 AM
New times qualifying at 10.15
Race 2 now 11.55
Race 8 now 15.25
Race 2 now 11.55
Race 8 now 15.25
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on June 16, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on June 16, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Good luck today, I will be following online.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
First race starting now
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 12:42:58 PM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 12:42:58 PM
Got up to 2nd :sign0098: Bad judgement on tyre pressure caught nose in ditch :sign0085: finished 10th ::) decided not to race in 2nd race
That's all folks will update later or tomorrow thanks for your support
That's all folks will update later or tomorrow thanks for your support
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 12:57:42 PM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 12:57:42 PM
Ive just got up from nights...eek...
Is car ok?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 16, 2019, 04:49:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 16, 2019, 04:49:17 PM
Feel for you Clive, not the result you anticipated.
Draw a line under and brave on to the next round?
Draw a line under and brave on to the next round?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:00:38 PM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:00:38 PM
Mallory Race Report!.
Well after running car at JDM Coombe where I had a misfire above 8K I debated about getting the car up to WGT to look at the map and now I wish I had, but then hindsight is a wonderful thing! Pip was so busy we agreed it "should" be OK!
Literally first lap out in qualifying the car had a chronic misfire, this time between 5/6K under load which made the car pretty un-driveable so only did a few laps to make sure I qualified and would up a surprising 5th with a 53.1 out of 26 cars !!
Thinking it may have been just spark plugs, I tried a different grade of plugs for the race.
Perhaps even more importantly because the car was over steering a little through Gerards which is the longest corner in the UK, I softened the suspension a little plus took a couple of pounds out of the O/S/R.
The car has such good ballence that even small changes make a difference, something which sadly I was about to find out, because I had now put too much understeer into the car .
With the car still misfiring just the same, I got myself into second place on the first lap and then on the second lap with warmer tyres the car was feeling better so I tried to carry more speed into the John Cooper Esses, but as soon as I turned in I thought "Yeh, we are not going round this corner" but I thought, no problem I will just straight line it though and all will be OK, after all Vettle got away with it , WRONG
As you are approaching you just see a line of dirt, wrong, its a damn ditch, and after the race all I heard was ditch stories where many cars have destroyed themselves going through there, apparently one of the Track Attack cars last year took his whole front suspension assembly off, drive shafts and all.
You will see our resident photographer was over the moon he got the pictures of the car destroying itself ;)
Dragging the cars alloy splitter under tray etc firmly wedged under the car I finished a lowly 10th, embarrassingly still being presented a nice big trophy .
Could have been a worse day though as three cars took themselves head first into the barriers out of Gerards with all three cars destroyed but thankfully with no injuries.
Here's some before, during my launch and after :-[
Well after running car at JDM Coombe where I had a misfire above 8K I debated about getting the car up to WGT to look at the map and now I wish I had, but then hindsight is a wonderful thing! Pip was so busy we agreed it "should" be OK!
Literally first lap out in qualifying the car had a chronic misfire, this time between 5/6K under load which made the car pretty un-driveable so only did a few laps to make sure I qualified and would up a surprising 5th with a 53.1 out of 26 cars !!
Thinking it may have been just spark plugs, I tried a different grade of plugs for the race.
Perhaps even more importantly because the car was over steering a little through Gerards which is the longest corner in the UK, I softened the suspension a little plus took a couple of pounds out of the O/S/R.
The car has such good ballence that even small changes make a difference, something which sadly I was about to find out, because I had now put too much understeer into the car .
With the car still misfiring just the same, I got myself into second place on the first lap and then on the second lap with warmer tyres the car was feeling better so I tried to carry more speed into the John Cooper Esses, but as soon as I turned in I thought "Yeh, we are not going round this corner" but I thought, no problem I will just straight line it though and all will be OK, after all Vettle got away with it , WRONG
As you are approaching you just see a line of dirt, wrong, its a damn ditch, and after the race all I heard was ditch stories where many cars have destroyed themselves going through there, apparently one of the Track Attack cars last year took his whole front suspension assembly off, drive shafts and all.
You will see our resident photographer was over the moon he got the pictures of the car destroying itself ;)
Dragging the cars alloy splitter under tray etc firmly wedged under the car I finished a lowly 10th, embarrassingly still being presented a nice big trophy .
Could have been a worse day though as three cars took themselves head first into the barriers out of Gerards with all three cars destroyed but thankfully with no injuries.
Here's some before, during my launch and after :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Blimey Clive you had some fun...i like that last photo front wheel off floor...
This misfire...lead or coil...worth checking connections?.
Swapping leading and trailing?
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This misfire...lead or coil...worth checking connections?.
Swapping leading and trailing?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:17:35 PM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:07:48 PM
Blimey Clive you had some fun...i like that last photo front wheel off floor...
This misfire...lead or coil...worth checking connections?.
Swapping leading and trailing?
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Thanks Jon, once I stiffend the back suspension up again, the handling came back, no grunt on the straights but as you can see, I was still trying in the corners ;)
Loaded up after the first race as there was no point untill I can sort the misfire. Its going to have to go back on the rollers as it only happens under load.
If you look you can see all the front of the car trapped underneath
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:20:41 PM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:20:41 PM
Off to see Pip then...would be nice to continuity check the coil looms...earth power and trigger....just remembering the injector prob.
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It's still over-boosting, which may have altered the map.
The day could have been worse, here's one of the three cars involved in the accident, this ones real bad but the Proton was proper dead!
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It's still over-boosting, which may have altered the map.
The day could have been worse, here's one of the three cars involved in the accident, this ones real bad but the Proton was proper dead!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
Whoops, sorry Jon, I just edited your post, boy its been a long day!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:32:38 PM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2019, 09:32:38 PM
No worries....oh dear thst is a right off surely reshell.. Thats bad...
The Proton Satria dead as well..getting rare...mmmm. The satria is basically a rebadged Mitsi Colt gti...just like mine...getting very rare indeed....
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The Proton Satria dead as well..getting rare...mmmm. The satria is basically a rebadged Mitsi Colt gti...just like mine...getting very rare indeed....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 09:06:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 09:06:03 AM
That's a serious amount of body damage :( :(
You going to need new bumper etc?
You going to need new bumper etc?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 17, 2019, 09:22:28 AM
Post by: re japi on June 17, 2019, 09:22:28 AM
Bugger... really sorry to hear that...
Christine is lawn trimming... Its obvious from that photo to see that there will be damages...
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really sorry to hear that... Christine is lawn trimming... Its obvious from that photo to see that there will be damages...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 08:41:21 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 17, 2019, 09:22:28 AM
Bugger...
Christine is lawn trimming... Its obvious from that photo to see that there will be damages...
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Had a good look and have got off real light,
The sumps OK and the radiator, so just the nose to buy and paint and my old mate Steve to make the splitter and winglets
BTW if you look at the grass, look at the black stain while the grass cleaned the oil off the underside of the car :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
Cool...half my splitter, wing vent and bumper reflector are under the tyres at Camp corner.
Any mud in oil coolers?
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Any mud in oil coolers?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 08:53:37 PM
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 17, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
Any mud in oil coolers?
No all is OK,
Here's a link from Tony Hunters car where you will see me go rallycrossing and eventually Tony's crash
Clearly with a huge lack of power due to the constant misfire, it still wasn't going bad before the off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1ii5t58X_g&feature=share
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
You put 4 wheels on grass and he put 1...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 09:32:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 09:32:05 PM
I would never make fun of anyone's misfortune, but there's an element of irony in that video in Tony Hunters car
There's a sticker on the dashboard that says " Trimex mowing systems"
There's a sticker on the dashboard that says " Trimex mowing systems"
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: clive on June 17, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
Cant really moan about my self inflicted damage, sadly this was the damage for the Proton
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 10:58:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 10:58:20 PM
Ouch, surely that's season over?
Unless people have a spare car........
I know drivers are supposed to stay on the black, but things happen.
There shouldn't be a ditch, a grass run off yes, is there such a thing as racing insurance where you can make a claim for insufficient run off.
Lets say for instance you were nudged, you go down the ditch, and you're out of pocket.
Had the ditch not been there, you could have coasted back on.
It's very harsh
Unless people have a spare car........
I know drivers are supposed to stay on the black, but things happen.
There shouldn't be a ditch, a grass run off yes, is there such a thing as racing insurance where you can make a claim for insufficient run off.
Lets say for instance you were nudged, you go down the ditch, and you're out of pocket.
Had the ditch not been there, you could have coasted back on.
It's very harsh
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 11:01:11 PM
Post by: boosted on June 17, 2019, 11:01:11 PM
That looks li a drainage ditch to me..
Might be a good time to put the colt gti on ebay....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:37:40 AM
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:37:40 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 17, 2019, 10:58:20 PM
Ouch, surely that's season over?
Unless people have a spare car........
I know drivers are supposed to stay on the black, but things happen.
There shouldn't be a ditch, a grass run off yes, is there such a thing as racing insurance where you can make a claim for insufficient run off.
Lets say for instance you were nudged, you go down the ditch, and you're out of pocket.
Had the ditch not been there, you could have coasted back on.
It's very harsh
Your right Jamie, had the ditch not been there it would have been just a hiccup not a wreck.
In that split second, I really did not think straight lining would be a problem , had I known about the infamous ditch I would have risked spinning or whatever :-[
Shame is, had I not decided to soften the rear, it would not have happened, clicked my rear shocks back up on my EDFC on the dash and the handling came back.
As for the misfire I am wondering if where the boost is all wrong it just messed the map up, Pip rang yesterday and feels that the engine is fine and just needs the ECU looking at.
Once I change the gear box (reverse gear broke ) I will get it back up to Cheshire and see whats wrong.
For insurance, never known any one who's had it, so no ideas of cost but yes you could get insurance.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 08:50:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 08:50:36 AM
Forgive my ignorance on the matter.
Having been to Combe to watch you, its clear that its not a cheap interest. I know its not BTCC but still some serious $$$ around the paddock.
For people who are new to the series, may not have sponsorship to help fund their racing, to have their hard efforts destroyed by a ditch. grrrr
..... I dunno, maybe im over thinking it.
Having been to Combe to watch you, its clear that its not a cheap interest. I know its not BTCC but still some serious $$$ around the paddock.
For people who are new to the series, may not have sponsorship to help fund their racing, to have their hard efforts destroyed by a ditch. grrrr
..... I dunno, maybe im over thinking it.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2019, 08:57:35 AM
Post by: boosted on June 18, 2019, 08:57:35 AM
You can get track day and race insurance by a specialist policy. Reis is 1 such company...
My mate years ago was actually sponsored by them...his car was all stickered up, he had race insurance as part of the deal.
Other road policies can add trackday insurance where 6 days a year are incuded.
Most people dont bother however its expensive and certain tracks are a greater risk than other....like combe, most wont insure the place as minimal run off.
I enquired once they never rang me back....lol
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My mate years ago was actually sponsored by them...his car was all stickered up, he had race insurance as part of the deal.
Other road policies can add trackday insurance where 6 days a year are incuded.
Most people dont bother however its expensive and certain tracks are a greater risk than other....like combe, most wont insure the place as minimal run off.
I enquired once they never rang me back....lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 09:12:50 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 18, 2019, 09:12:50 AM
Fair point.
A demarcation barrier / Armco is one thing.....the ground layout / site etc governs that, and thankfully most have tyre walls at the "high risk" areas
You need it for spectator control and safety, if you hit the tyre wall.....well that's racing I guess. Spectators and drivers are safe.
Ditches in a run off area can be and should be avoided when you see the level of damage its creates. Its p*ss poor maintenance on the behalf of the organisers at Mallory. If its required for drainage, build a proper drain.
That proton looks like it hit a trench not a ditch and Pike and the rest of Dads Army could have been climbing out of it :))
A demarcation barrier / Armco is one thing.....the ground layout / site etc governs that, and thankfully most have tyre walls at the "high risk" areas
You need it for spectator control and safety, if you hit the tyre wall.....well that's racing I guess. Spectators and drivers are safe.
Ditches in a run off area can be and should be avoided when you see the level of damage its creates. Its p*ss poor maintenance on the behalf of the organisers at Mallory. If its required for drainage, build a proper drain.
That proton looks like it hit a trench not a ditch and Pike and the rest of Dads Army could have been climbing out of it :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:12:13 PM
Post by: clive on June 18, 2019, 08:12:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/phillip.lee.7355/videos/1849981431814103/
This was posted up to show how nicely we can play off the start even with a full grid.
This one below really show what can happen when you get it really wrong going onto the straight at Mallory !
https://www.facebook.com/pescaraproductions/videos/896964197320112/
This was posted up to show how nicely we can play off the start even with a full grid.
This one below really show what can happen when you get it really wrong going onto the straight at Mallory !
https://www.facebook.com/pescaraproductions/videos/896964197320112/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2019, 08:55:13 PM
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2019, 08:55:13 PM
Ouch! That's a really nasty crash in the E-Type, hope the driver was OK :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2019, 09:06:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2019, 09:06:09 PM
Sorry for the link,
I'm on the iPad and i can't post Apple derived jpgs
https://pin.it/c766v3i2bnwsvk
I wonder if that driver made the corner lol
I'm on the iPad and i can't post Apple derived jpgs
https://pin.it/c766v3i2bnwsvk
I wonder if that driver made the corner lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2019, 09:31:30 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2019, 09:31:30 PM
Thats when Clive started racing....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2019, 09:39:02 PM
;D :)) ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 09, 2019, 08:27:05 PM
Post by: clive on July 09, 2019, 08:27:05 PM
Quick update on the race car.
5 Speed gear box has now been changed, but its done well living with all the power for three seasons, stuck a new clutch centre plate in while it was out.
After 5 years of add a bit and take away a bit the exhaust system has been totally revamped and now instead of keep dragging on the ground and hitting the trailer the whole system is right up in the tunnel. Hopefully by making it flatter underneath it will help air flow and make a little more downforce.
I have also fitted a replacement 60mm Tial wastegate after finding the other one had fallen apart inside, which would have been why I had boost issues ! ::)
As you can see the new front is starting to be fitted up and it will have a deeper and different shape splittler this time, in the hope of more front end grip.
Walked into the workshop today and I was over the moon to find my ol mate Steve had made a new strut brace yesterday complete with the brake stopper I have wanted for ages to get me a firmer brake pedal.
(Just got to get it powder coated now)
New week its up to Pip's in Cheshire for a look at the map and to put a little more boost into the car and hopefully come away with a little more power.
WGT Auto Developments has now stopped trading but fortunately for me, he will be just mapping a couple of days a week.
I say fortunately because Pip really is the one that has made the car become a winner and reliable :great:
5 Speed gear box has now been changed, but its done well living with all the power for three seasons, stuck a new clutch centre plate in while it was out.
After 5 years of add a bit and take away a bit the exhaust system has been totally revamped and now instead of keep dragging on the ground and hitting the trailer the whole system is right up in the tunnel. Hopefully by making it flatter underneath it will help air flow and make a little more downforce.
I have also fitted a replacement 60mm Tial wastegate after finding the other one had fallen apart inside, which would have been why I had boost issues ! ::)
As you can see the new front is starting to be fitted up and it will have a deeper and different shape splittler this time, in the hope of more front end grip.
Walked into the workshop today and I was over the moon to find my ol mate Steve had made a new strut brace yesterday complete with the brake stopper I have wanted for ages to get me a firmer brake pedal.
(Just got to get it powder coated now)
New week its up to Pip's in Cheshire for a look at the map and to put a little more boost into the car and hopefully come away with a little more power.
WGT Auto Developments has now stopped trading but fortunately for me, he will be just mapping a couple of days a week.
I say fortunately because Pip really is the one that has made the car become a winner and reliable :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 09, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Looks great Clive, can't believe how quick you got it back together.
And if that strut brace flexes I will eat my under garments
And if that strut brace flexes I will eat my under garments
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 09, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
Post by: Casey on July 09, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
That's some great progress Clive. Glad you found the cause of your boost issues. I hope the visit to Pip goes well.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 10:19:11 PM
Post by: boosted on July 09, 2019, 10:19:11 PM
Sweet, ill give you a call tomoz for a catch up.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 07:30:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 07:30:28 AM
Season gone quiet,
You're not missing events due to "injuries" Clive?
You're not missing events due to "injuries" Clive?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 09:06:54 AM
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 09:06:54 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 07:30:28 AM
Season gone quiet,
You're not missing events due to "injuries" Clive?
As you will see on the next post, still reassembling the car plus some mods.
Next race "should" have been a different series at Brands, so if all goes OK with the mapping, I will be out next at Mallory Sept 28th and then Donnington October 30th. I will have a look and see if there is any thing else I can slot into but most series don't like me because I'm rotary !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 09:35:16 AM
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 09:35:16 AM
Good day yesterday progress wise, Exhaust system is completed, rear suspension trays and brake ducts repaired, new style undertray, which hopefully will help down force is fitted and we got a long into the splitter being completed.
Looking under the car you can see the exhaust is tucked right up under the car which will not only stop the damn thing scrapping the track but will hopefully help air flow as well by making the underside "flatter".
Worked out what we are doing for cannards this time ( the car will look quite different at the front)
Steve is going to carry on with the car tomorrow so the nose assembly should be in colour later this week.
Looking under the car you can see the exhaust is tucked right up under the car which will not only stop the damn thing scrapping the track but will hopefully help air flow as well by making the underside "flatter".
Worked out what we are doing for cannards this time ( the car will look quite different at the front)
Steve is going to carry on with the car tomorrow so the nose assembly should be in colour later this week.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 11:54:18 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 11:54:18 AM
Looks good Clive,
Nice NACA ducts, they hand formed or you got a tool?
Nice NACA ducts, they hand formed or you got a tool?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 01:37:45 PM
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 11:54:18 AM
Looks good Clive,
Nice NACA ducts, they hand formed or you got a tool?
Traced a Naca Duct and Steve shaped it out with a swageing wheel
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 01:45:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 14, 2019, 01:45:53 PM
I feel I need to invest in one.....
.....dear Santa, ive been a good boy this year.........
.....dear Santa, ive been a good boy this year.........
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 06:49:04 PM
Post by: clive on July 14, 2019, 06:49:04 PM
If I remember, I will take a picture of said tool when I'm over at the workshop tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 15, 2019, 06:34:48 AM
Post by: re japi on July 15, 2019, 06:34:48 AM
Do you have a dog?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 15, 2019, 08:29:34 AM
Post by: clive on July 15, 2019, 08:29:34 AM
Monty is Steve's dog who is my mate who helps me with the car.
We have the lazy mans pet, with Eddy who is now seventeen, who needs no looking after ;)
We have the lazy mans pet, with Eddy who is now seventeen, who needs no looking after ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 15, 2019, 03:24:52 PM
Post by: re japi on July 15, 2019, 03:24:52 PM
Oh Well, I remember something like that...
Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Well, I remember something like that... Lähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 15, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
Post by: clive on July 15, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
Here we go Jamie.
These are around £200 a go from E-May, good ol Chinese product and Steve tells me that forums say, anything more than thin alloy will need some lumps of iron welding across the two flat bars to strengthen the thing up.
These are around £200 a go from E-May, good ol Chinese product and Steve tells me that forums say, anything more than thin alloy will need some lumps of iron welding across the two flat bars to strengthen the thing up.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 09:52:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 15, 2019, 09:52:34 PM
Cool thanks Clive,
Those Metz tools are ok actually, I bought a shrinker/stretcher in June to make the buck for the diffuser.
For 200 quid on a swager, it’s not worth getting ya hands dirty trying to make one
Those Metz tools are ok actually, I bought a shrinker/stretcher in June to make the buck for the diffuser.
For 200 quid on a swager, it’s not worth getting ya hands dirty trying to make one
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 18, 2019, 08:58:58 PM
Post by: clive on July 18, 2019, 08:58:58 PM
Strut brace is now feeling very blue :great:
Steve's getting on with the front end, splitter and new style canards,
Steve's getting on with the front end, splitter and new style canards,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 19, 2019, 01:37:59 PM
Post by: clive on July 19, 2019, 01:37:59 PM
Next step.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 01:42:21 PM
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2019, 01:42:21 PM
Looking good. Steve is the FabDaddy!
Gotta call this the dasiy cutter design!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
Yeah ya wouldn't wanna be crossing the road with that coming.............
I wanna know why steve wants to "hump" it?
I wanna know why steve wants to "hump" it?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 19, 2019, 05:39:12 PM
Post by: clive on July 19, 2019, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 19, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
Yeah ya wouldn't wanna be crossing the road with that coming.............
I wanna know why steve wants to "hump" it?
By hump, do you mean the bend in the right hand corner of the last picture ?
dasiy cutter design, is help me cut the grass more efficiently :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 22, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
Post by: clive on July 22, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
Thanks to the director who had to have a lay down afterwards, I now have a new nose on the race car.
"allegedly" Steve played some sort of part, obviously guided by his director :bravo_2:.
"allegedly" Steve played some sort of part, obviously guided by his director :bravo_2:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2019, 10:14:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 22, 2019, 10:14:31 PM
Looking great Clive, let's hope all the hard efforts pay off.
When's the next attempt at kicking that civics ass?
When's the next attempt at kicking that civics ass?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 23, 2019, 09:41:30 AM
Post by: clive on July 23, 2019, 09:41:30 AM
Off for a remap next week, then an Allcomers event at Brands on the 18th August to get a feel for the car again, then back to Track Attack series September 15th @ Mallory Park
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 27, 2019, 06:47:59 PM
Post by: boosted on July 27, 2019, 06:47:59 PM
Whats that bent up front lip/tongue for?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on July 27, 2019, 07:16:43 PM
Post by: rote8 on July 27, 2019, 07:16:43 PM
For ploughing the outfield. :c023:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2019, 07:57:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 27, 2019, 07:57:19 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 27, 2019, 06:47:59 PM
Whats that bent up front lip/tongue for?
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Forcing the air under the car?
I'm gonna be quiet now, just had my first meal of the the day and my first drink.......
.....feeling a bit squiffy
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on July 30, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
Post by: steve phillips on July 30, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
Direct from a private collector at the Haynsford institute of modern art we are ecstatic to be able to offer this stunning 3 dimensional piece of art,
originally entitled “splitter†now re-titled Completely Remodelled Artistic Piece, although not exactly cubist in style you can see the artist has drawn heavily from both the cubist and crumpled style of art,
this is a multi-textured piece incorporating sharp edges, flaking paint and gravel rash, very few artists can claim to include such varied and diverse styles in their art,
Interest has been forthcoming from both Tate modern and the Smithsonian who have both offered around 1.000.000 Iranian rial, if anyone is interested in bettering this offer it will be considered,
This is a once in a lifetime offer never to be repeated “hopefullyâ€
There is a sister piece of art available to complement this. It was produced by the same artist at the same time, its entitled “grass cutting at speed†and comes from the artists yellow period, this piece is offered complete with its own grass and dirt attached.
Please feel free to submit your offers
originally entitled “splitter†now re-titled Completely Remodelled Artistic Piece, although not exactly cubist in style you can see the artist has drawn heavily from both the cubist and crumpled style of art,
this is a multi-textured piece incorporating sharp edges, flaking paint and gravel rash, very few artists can claim to include such varied and diverse styles in their art,
Interest has been forthcoming from both Tate modern and the Smithsonian who have both offered around 1.000.000 Iranian rial, if anyone is interested in bettering this offer it will be considered,
This is a once in a lifetime offer never to be repeated “hopefullyâ€
There is a sister piece of art available to complement this. It was produced by the same artist at the same time, its entitled “grass cutting at speed†and comes from the artists yellow period, this piece is offered complete with its own grass and dirt attached.
Please feel free to submit your offers
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2019, 05:18:26 PM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2019, 05:18:26 PM
Lol...you make it Clive breaks it.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 30, 2019, 06:14:42 PM
Post by: Casey on July 30, 2019, 06:14:42 PM
:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:
Hard to copy exactly too, should be difficult for the forgers.
Are there options to have it framed and delivered too? :) ;D
Hard to copy exactly too, should be difficult for the forgers.
Are there options to have it framed and delivered too? :) ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2019, 06:34:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2019, 06:34:36 PM
Id post it to Mallory Park and say
"your groundsman owes me money!"
"your groundsman owes me money!"
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2019, 08:41:55 AM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2019, 08:41:55 AM
Well, I never, 18 years of lurking and finally my metal moulding friend who has been so instrumental in turning the RX-8 into a winner has finally
made a post to show off my poor driving skills ;D ;) :welcome:
made a post to show off my poor driving skills ;D ;) :welcome:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on July 31, 2019, 09:53:25 AM
Post by: steve phillips on July 31, 2019, 09:53:25 AM
due to a huge amount of interest we have now had this outstanding piece framed, (so Casey you now have to buy it)..........
the frame is a genuine antique UPVC frame, none of your old wood and gilt framimg here...
and delivery will be by securicor due to its high value...
yes mr Clive finally, but dont worry ill soon have some morris minor pics going up on here... lol
the frame is a genuine antique UPVC frame, none of your old wood and gilt framimg here...
and delivery will be by securicor due to its high value...
yes mr Clive finally, but dont worry ill soon have some morris minor pics going up on here... lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on July 31, 2019, 10:48:44 AM
Post by: jinx on July 31, 2019, 10:48:44 AM
More sidelines than Clapham Junction. :D
Hope your new venture into the fine art market plays out well Steve. That's a large number of Aeros you are looking at there. ;)
Hope your new venture into the fine art market plays out well Steve. That's a large number of Aeros you are looking at there. ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2019, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: steve phillips on July 31, 2019, 09:53:25 AM
due to a huge amount of interest we have now had this outstanding piece framed, (so Casey you now have to buy it)..........
the frame is a genuine antique UPVC frame, none of your old wood and gilt framimg here...
and delivery will be by securicor due to its high value...
:)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :13:
On second thoughts, I'll pass on that, it won't match my room decor ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 11:50:08 AM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 11:50:08 AM
Dont forget that bodywork is from the year Clive won the championship....its a piece of motorsport history.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 11:53:23 AM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 11:53:23 AM
Needs to be signed i think...builder and driver..
Then put on ebay you never know...get it signed ill post on ebay with my free listings quota...
This time next year Rodney....will be .....
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Then put on ebay you never know...get it signed ill post on ebay with my free listings quota...
This time next year Rodney....will be .....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2019, 04:10:23 PM
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2019, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 31, 2019, 11:53:23 AM
This time next year Rodney....will be .....
You plonker Del ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 05:36:24 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2019, 05:36:24 PM
8 stickers sorted.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-Design-Your-Own-Sticker-ANY-SYMBOL-Funny-Car-Window-Bumper-Vinyl-8/122952082289?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
he does loads of different custom stuff Clive..check out his other items...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-Design-Your-Own-Sticker-ANY-SYMBOL-Funny-Car-Window-Bumper-Vinyl-8/122952082289?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
he does loads of different custom stuff Clive..check out his other items...
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2019, 08:44:58 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2019, 08:44:58 PM
Thanks Jon, but I only needed two (and a spare) so I can tart up the side a little ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2019, 08:57:16 AM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2019, 08:57:16 AM
I bought extra as hes been super helpful...and i like sticker...
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Title: Re: Clive's 500 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 06:49:10 PM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 06:49:10 PM
"Good news folks"
Futurama views will get it ;).
Taken six years to arrive at this point today, but today we saw well over 530 flywheel BHP out of the car and its running completely clean and sounds AWESOME, which is a word I would not normally use !
We did have just a measly 470 flywheel BHP last time it was mappped ;)
Traveled up to Pips temporary work shop and the long journey up near Manchester was well worth it, even Pip's staggered to see this BHP on an engine that has no Bridge Porting ect .
471 Wheel Horse Power at 7600 rpm at just 1 bar of boost -------------and I rev it to 9000!
Futurama views will get it ;).
Taken six years to arrive at this point today, but today we saw well over 530 flywheel BHP out of the car and its running completely clean and sounds AWESOME, which is a word I would not normally use !
We did have just a measly 470 flywheel BHP last time it was mappped ;)
Traveled up to Pips temporary work shop and the long journey up near Manchester was well worth it, even Pip's staggered to see this BHP on an engine that has no Bridge Porting ect .
471 Wheel Horse Power at 7600 rpm at just 1 bar of boost -------------and I rev it to 9000!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 07:28:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 07:28:29 PM
Are you sure you got enough Clive ? Lol
Awesome 😎
Awesome 😎
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
Amazing little rotary....bravo...!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 07:28:29 PM
Are you sure you got enough Clive ? Lol
Awesome 😎
Nah, never enough ???
Trouble is I would need the gearbox I cant afford if I have more :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 08, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
Amazing little rotary....bravo...!!!
You can say that again :great:
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Amazing little rotary
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2019, 08:28:45 PM
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2019, 08:28:45 PM
Great news Clive, can't wait to see how she performs in your next race :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 08:31:56 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2019, 08:31:56 PM
Give them Civics a shock me thinks....lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
And the clios
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 10:22:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 08, 2019, 10:22:25 PM
Hope the new splitter works out too :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
Holy crap, thats a lot from streetport!!! What boost?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: re japi on August 09, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
Holy crap, thats a lot from streetport!!!
Nothing crazy just 1 Bar of Boost ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 08:53:16 AM
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 08:53:16 AM
Its mind boogling..1308cc 1 Bar of boost over 500 ponies. When was last time you checked your clutch Clive!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: clive on August 09, 2019, 08:39:49 AMWhat??? Only 1bar and that kind of power??Quote from: re japi on August 09, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
Holy crap, thats a lot from streetport!!!
Nothing crazy just 1 Bar of Boost ;D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
Now Im really curious about those ports and especially specs of that turpo. Cause with only 1bar boost, that really seems impossible power. Normal, similar turbo should begin to stall, and shouldnt be able to do that kind of power with only so small boost... Im really confused
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
It must be that second turbo he's running hey Jon? lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 09:23:43 AM
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 09:23:43 AM
Twin turbo the best..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 09:30:01 AM
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2019, 09:30:01 AM
Modern turbos Jarno...twin scroll ball bearing...the design has greatly improved over the years
When you think about it...every power stroke on a rotary produces alot of hot exhaust gas...clever turbo specification...
POWAAHHHH!!
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When you think about it...every power stroke on a rotary produces alot of hot exhaust gas...clever turbo specification...
POWAAHHHH!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 01:39:49 PM
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 01:39:49 PM
Jarno
Even Pip was surprised by the power and the way it produces its power, like he said we really have got the ports working correctly with the Turbo we have, plus so much is down to Pips mapping abilities and the map that has been built over a few mapping sessions.
As many will know when tuning piston engines the induction / exhaust/ cam valve size / compression / porting all have to work together to get the best you can from any given engine and a Rotary is no different,
As the car is on track we actually knocked the boost back as we did have 20 brake more on very slightly higher boost ;).
On 1680 / 850's and we are almost on max fueling now!
On of the things that helped tremendously yesterday was that Steve made the wastage adjustable so, rather than changing the spring I was able to crank more or less pressure to increase or decrease boost :great:
Even Pip was surprised by the power and the way it produces its power, like he said we really have got the ports working correctly with the Turbo we have, plus so much is down to Pips mapping abilities and the map that has been built over a few mapping sessions.
As many will know when tuning piston engines the induction / exhaust/ cam valve size / compression / porting all have to work together to get the best you can from any given engine and a Rotary is no different,
As the car is on track we actually knocked the boost back as we did have 20 brake more on very slightly higher boost ;).
On 1680 / 850's and we are almost on max fueling now!
On of the things that helped tremendously yesterday was that Steve made the wastage adjustable so, rather than changing the spring I was able to crank more or less pressure to increase or decrease boost :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 500 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 01:43:17 PM
OK, going to give the car a run on Sunday 18 AUGUST @ the FESTIVAL ITALIA 2019 - BRANDS HATCH
It will be racing in the All Comers races against crazy machinery but this will give me a good opportunely to test the car in proper race conditions.
(hopefully in the dry)
Last time I had two Race Radicals out there with me , wow never been lapped that many times in my life !
It will be racing in the All Comers races against crazy machinery but this will give me a good opportunely to test the car in proper race conditions.
(hopefully in the dry)
Last time I had two Race Radicals out there with me , wow never been lapped that many times in my life !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 04:20:37 PM
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 04:20:37 PM
What injectors are those, Bosch EV14? And what was duty cycle of injectors?
Running pump fuel or E85?
Are you sure that 470was at the wheels, not at flywheel?
Cause Im just trying to understand how the h* *l you managed to get that kind of power
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Running pump fuel or E85?
Are you sure that 470was at the wheels, not at flywheel?
Cause Im just trying to understand how the h* *l you managed to get that kind of power
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 06:48:18 PM
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 06:48:18 PM
Jarno if you look at the screen on the right you will see 500 + flywheel traces ;). (last time it was mapped it showed 408 whp and 469 Flywheel BHP)
Mapped on Shell V-Power unleaded pump fuel which is a 99RON octane fuel.
But Race day I add Lucas Octane Booster and on the tracks that have long straights I do use a drop of Race fuel as well for safety.
Yes they are Bosch EV14's and if they was near their max duty cycle Pip would have told me.
Mapped on Shell V-Power unleaded pump fuel which is a 99RON octane fuel.
But Race day I add Lucas Octane Booster and on the tracks that have long straights I do use a drop of Race fuel as well for safety.
Yes they are Bosch EV14's and if they was near their max duty cycle Pip would have told me.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 07:11:57 PM
Post by: clive on August 09, 2019, 07:11:57 PM
Just thought , Jarno your overlooking a vital, find me power ingredient, “Pip†Gardner who started tuning Rotary's in 1981.
Rotary's tuned include a 757, 787 and a little know Rotary guy's car called 'Mad' Mike Whiddett ;)
He also travels around Europe and is up in Denmark today
Rotary's tuned include a 757, 787 and a little know Rotary guy's car called 'Mad' Mike Whiddett ;)
He also travels around Europe and is up in Denmark today
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 09:00:36 PM
Post by: re japi on August 09, 2019, 09:00:36 PM
Yes, I know sir. Im well aware who he is and what he can do. Just cant believe it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2019, 09:41:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 09, 2019, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: clive on August 09, 2019, 07:11:57 PM
Just thought , Jarno your overlooking a vital, find me power ingredient, “Pip†Gardner who started tuning Rotary's in 1981.
Rotary's tuned include a 757, 787 and a little know Rotary guy's car called 'Mad' Mike Whiddett ;)
He also travels around Europe and is up in Denmark today
1981????
Coughiwas5cough
He knows his stuff then ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2019, 11:01:09 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2019, 11:01:09 AM
They are amazing numbers fair play Clive . I was up Pips last week and he got my Greddy turbo up to 244 WHP with half bar of boost and I was very happy .
Totally different league
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:02:49 AM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:02:49 AM
Well done Wayne you gonna do a build thread on here?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2019, 11:07:16 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2019, 11:07:16 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:02:49 AMYeah ill have to , it’ll be a half build thread lol
Well done Wayne you gonna do a build thread on here?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:09:09 AM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:09:09 AM
Pls do mate. Good to document the journey..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2019, 12:44:48 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2019, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2019, 11:07:16 AMQuote from: boosted on August 10, 2019, 11:02:49 AMYeah ill have to , it’ll be a half build thread lol
Well done Wayne you gonna do a build thread on here?
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Even with half a build thread I would look forward to it Wayne as it will interest and help other people :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: re japi on August 09, 2019, 09:00:36 PM
Yes, I know sir. Im well aware who he is and what he can do.
To be fair, its not a normal street port as it has HUGE primary's ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
Getting there Clive, another stupid night of insomnia..... Emma's got insomnia because of the steroids she's on. So she's on her kindle.
My cogs are going a million miles an hour so I went from page 66 to 100, thought that was a good enough milestone.
What a journey!
Another lost front end, mad MR2's, the infamous manual rack( I need to do that I have a spare) rear wing mods, dodgy apex seals, out of balance engines, tongue out driving......
My cogs are going a million miles an hour so I went from page 66 to 100, thought that was a good enough milestone.
What a journey!
Another lost front end, mad MR2's, the infamous manual rack( I need to do that I have a spare) rear wing mods, dodgy apex seals, out of balance engines, tongue out driving......
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 09:51:45 AM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 09:51:45 AM
Stickers lost in transit....guys on holidays...he gonna do me some more when home..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 10:02:20 AM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 10:02:20 AM
Yep, its been a "No i'm not going to give up journey"
I always felt that if I gave up people would believe that it was because it was a Rotary!
Did you come across why the car's called Christine, from the Silverstone debacle.
Damn thing caught itself alight, I saw flame and dived in at the next marshals post and worst of all, they dragged the car out of the gravel trap backwards and the gravel got under the back of the splitter and ripped the whole front end off the car :angry5:
Even the scrutineers went banana's at the driver for the damage he did, exclaiming that he did it everytime rather than pull the cars out forward.
Worst of all poor old Jarno came along to watch and he saw nothing :-[
I always felt that if I gave up people would believe that it was because it was a Rotary!
Did you come across why the car's called Christine, from the Silverstone debacle.
Damn thing caught itself alight, I saw flame and dived in at the next marshals post and worst of all, they dragged the car out of the gravel trap backwards and the gravel got under the back of the splitter and ripped the whole front end off the car :angry5:
Even the scrutineers went banana's at the driver for the damage he did, exclaiming that he did it everytime rather than pull the cars out forward.
Worst of all poor old Jarno came along to watch and he saw nothing :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 10:04:52 AM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2019, 10:04:52 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 13, 2019, 09:51:45 AM
Stickers lost in transit....guys on holidays...he gonna do me some more when home..
Don't worry Jon, I painted around your logo to tart the thing up for Sunday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 10:07:05 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 10:07:05 AM
Yeah, I remember you telling me the story in person, then I read it this morning.....
....still in disbelief..
Well I admire your perseverance, but I don't think anyone could blame the issues because its a rotary. Any engine that's highly tuned has issues.
I also admire Jon when you highlighted the error codes, its like he started talking in binary ! He's never normal that guy! anyone who understands electrics is powered by witchcraft lol
....still in disbelief..
Well I admire your perseverance, but I don't think anyone could blame the issues because its a rotary. Any engine that's highly tuned has issues.
I also admire Jon when you highlighted the error codes, its like he started talking in binary ! He's never normal that guy! anyone who understands electrics is powered by witchcraft lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 10:10:13 AM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 10:10:13 AM
Be boop be boop boop be boop. Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 11:42:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 13, 2019, 11:42:32 AM
dugga dugga dugga I love you buck
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 11:57:26 AM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2019, 11:57:26 AM
Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 05:23:01 PM
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 05:23:01 PM
Well Sir, I told you several times that dont worry about me. I was just glad that your car didnt destroy it self completely. Despite that insident, I had really awesome trip at UK, that time. Went to see awesome sightseens, went to Jon's, Jon almost made me loose my breakfast, saw Silverstone and really awesome cars. Btw, that was only time that I saw you almost not smiling cant blame you tho
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I was just glad that your car didnt destroy it self completely. Despite that insident, I had really awesome trip at UK, that time. Went to see awesome sightseens, went to Jon's, Jon almost made me loose my breakfast, saw Silverstone and really awesome cars. Btw, that was only time that I saw you almost not smiling cant blame you thoLähetetty minun G8141 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 06:15:16 PM
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2019, 06:15:16 PM
Damn, just realized, that was last time I was in UK, was 3 or 4 years ago
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 03:53:59 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2019, 03:53:59 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 25, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Wires wires...don't think I'm wired up right...I'm really enjoying myself. Got a big scrap pile...this is just the engine Loom! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/64d711aba9a6977e018a0d5ee0c2264a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180125/fdb54ad291e3a754dba3514053eb8a88.jpg)
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Lol did I not say that yesterday?... Never normal lol. Someone has to be the leccy guru
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 14, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
Post by: clive on August 14, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
OK, Its going to be interesting to see what I am racing against as my race is billed as/
Italiano vs rest of the world Allcomers Race
Timetable attached
https://www.festivalitalia.com/
Italiano vs rest of the world Allcomers Race
Timetable attached
https://www.festivalitalia.com/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2019, 02:41:03 PM
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2019, 02:41:03 PM
I was in 2 minds about coming....but the 6pm race start means i wont be able to come as out for meal with Sarah and friends as shes doing a half marathon sunday so i said id go along and support her...but i had pass for going racing lol...but the 6pm start means ill miss the meal so i cant come mate. Soz.
Good luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 15, 2019, 07:52:44 PM
Post by: clive on August 15, 2019, 07:52:44 PM
To break it down.
Qualifying 11.30
First race 13.55
Second Race 1800
Qualifying 11.30
First race 13.55
Second Race 1800
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
Doh...i missed that first race...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 08:07:56 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 08:07:56 AM
Good luck today Clive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Thanks Jon
You can follow the races here https://www.msvracing.com/cars/calendar/2019/aug-18-bh-festival-italia/
You can follow the races here https://www.msvracing.com/cars/calendar/2019/aug-18-bh-festival-italia/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 08:17:33 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 08:17:33 AM
Will do mate. Im off to cheer Sarah on her first 1/2 marathon..i think im gonna get wet lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:33:58 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:33:58 AM
Anyone listening To Quali...Clive hasnt got his wets with him he on semis...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 11:41:21 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 11:41:21 AM
Quote from: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:11:45 AMDo you need wet tyres?
Thanks Jon
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
Race 1 13.55
Race 2 18.00
Tsl timing.
I hope the windscreen hasnt misted up....
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Race 2 18.00
Tsl timing.
I hope the windscreen hasnt misted up....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:47:06 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:47:06 AM
On tsl showing rain wet....so yes...treacherous on semis and Slicks...
The Silverstones Clive runs have minimal tread...
I spoke to him earlier and he said he was gonna pop home and get the wets.
Clives (ithink) is 55secs round brands so if drys out gonna be interesting.
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The Silverstones Clive runs have minimal tread...
I spoke to him earlier and he said he was gonna pop home and get the wets.
Clives (ithink) is 55secs round brands so if drys out gonna be interesting.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 11:56:36 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 11:56:36 AM
If he's desperate I could run over my set of rain sports...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:58:31 AM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 11:58:31 AM
I suspect he will pop home as Brands local to him as he has race wets there.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: LINAS on August 18, 2019, 04:27:03 PM
Post by: LINAS on August 18, 2019, 04:27:03 PM
Haven’t seen what,s occurring today as just got in from work... Hopefully everything is going fine and the sun is out...Enjoy your 18.00 race Clive...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 04:35:09 PM
Yep spoke to Clive all set for race 2..
New clutch was slippy slightly race1 been adjusted now and tweaks on tyre pressures. Clives confident theres more in the car.
Everybody else is on full slicks where as Clives on semis.
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New clutch was slippy slightly race1 been adjusted now and tweaks on tyre pressures. Clives confident theres more in the car.
Everybody else is on full slicks where as Clives on semis.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: LINAS on August 18, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
Post by: LINAS on August 18, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
Thanks for the update Jon... been a couple of times to Brands to watch Clive race, unfortunately couldn’t make today but hey Hoo I’m sure there will be another day.. Enjoy tomorrow
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 04:57:59 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 04:57:59 PM
Cheers mate yep i wanted to go but other commitments.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
I'm finally home, been busy all weekend, ready for 6 pm race
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 05:55:26 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 05:55:26 PM
Its started early upto 3rd
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2019, 06:09:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 18, 2019, 06:09:57 PM
Well done for the podium finish Clive
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on August 18, 2019, 06:13:02 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on August 18, 2019, 06:13:02 PM
Well done Clive great result.
:great:
:great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 06:16:52 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 06:16:52 PM
Woohoo 3rd..and a another trophy!!
And a 53.6 laptime.
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And a 53.6 laptime.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 07:02:30 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2019, 07:02:30 PM
Amazing little rotary....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:03:26 PM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:03:26 PM
Thanks for the support guys, it is appreciated.
Well with a 53.6 I gotta say i'm pleased, as its tough to find lumps of time on a 1 mile track.
The aero must have worked as the car has more front end grip and I had to give the car more rear end grip for the second race then I found a lump of time.
For those who know Brands, before off the end of Cooper straight I always had to have a dab of brake and lift and just about lift and coast up to Clearways. Now I am not braking and still on the throttle right up to Clearways, so the mods worked :)
Had two great races and come home with spoils.
Best of all, no work and the cars ready for the next Race@Mallory
Well with a 53.6 I gotta say i'm pleased, as its tough to find lumps of time on a 1 mile track.
The aero must have worked as the car has more front end grip and I had to give the car more rear end grip for the second race then I found a lump of time.
For those who know Brands, before off the end of Cooper straight I always had to have a dab of brake and lift and just about lift and coast up to Clearways. Now I am not braking and still on the throttle right up to Clearways, so the mods worked :)
Had two great races and come home with spoils.
Best of all, no work and the cars ready for the next Race@Mallory
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 08:12:02 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 18, 2019, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:03:26 PMWell done!
Thanks for the support guys, it is appreciated.
Well with a 53.6 I gotta say i'm pleased, as its tough to find lumps of time on a 1 mile track.
The aero must have worked as the car has more front end grip and I had to give the car more rear end grip for the second race then I found a lump of time.
For those who know Brands, before off the end of Cooper straight I always had to have a dab of brake and lift and just about lift and coast up to Clearways. Now I am not braking and still on the throttle right up to Clearways, so the mods worked :)
Had two great races and come home with spoils.
Best of all, no work and the cars ready for the next Race@Mallory
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
On a different note, look at the colour of this exhaust, just about the most optimum colour your ever going to see out of a Rotary.
Well done Pip,
Well done Pip,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 19, 2019, 05:24:16 PM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2019, 05:24:16 PM
Racing with this MGB V8, lots of grunt with 420BHP plus on full slicks and very lightweight, got very very close at times, but I got him in the end ;).
Go to say he was a very capable driver as well and much fun was had by both of us.
Then with tyre pressure adjustments to the rear, I gapped him in the second race ;).
Go to say he was a very capable driver as well and much fun was had by both of us.
Then with tyre pressure adjustments to the rear, I gapped him in the second race ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2019, 06:25:37 PM
Post by: Casey on August 19, 2019, 06:25:37 PM
Congrats Clive :13:
53.6s around Brands Indy :notworthy: - and another trophy for the cabinet - great result. Sounds as though the car was handling and performing well too :)
53.6s around Brands Indy :notworthy: - and another trophy for the cabinet - great result. Sounds as though the car was handling and performing well too :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2019, 06:50:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 19, 2019, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
On a different note, look at the colour of this exhaust, just about the most optimum colour your ever going to see out of a Rotary.
Well done Pip,
Biscuit brown!
Same as the electrodes on spark plugs :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 19, 2019, 07:34:45 PM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2019, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 19, 2019, 06:50:19 PMQuote from: clive on August 18, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
On a different note, look at the colour of this exhaust, just about the most optimum colour your ever going to see out of a Rotary.
Well done Pip,
Biscuit brown!
Same as the electrodes on spark plugs :sign0098:
Yes, perfecto :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2019, 09:28:09 AM
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2019, 09:28:09 AM
Video from Race 1 Mazda RX8 Races V8 420bhp MGB Race car on Slicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDx4HP_Wt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDx4HP_Wt4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 20, 2019, 10:48:59 AM
Post by: clive on August 20, 2019, 10:48:59 AM
Many thanks Philip.
Stay with it and you will see the battle with the MGB V8 that both he and I really enjoyed.
I sorted the clutch that was slipping when going into 4th down the straight for the next race ;)
Stay with it and you will see the battle with the MGB V8 that both he and I really enjoyed.
I sorted the clutch that was slipping when going into 4th down the straight for the next race ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Is it me dum from nightshift...but these 2 are both race1?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2019, 02:48:41 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 20, 2019, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 20, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Is it me dum from nightshift...but these 2 are both race1?
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This video is Race 1. I haven't done race 2 yet
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
Post by: boosted on August 20, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
Cool. Thanks.woke up now.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
Well done Clive "Hansford"
You were all over his backside like a bad dose of herpes ( ok maybe not the best analogy there)
That's some quick MGB, certainly with around 100 less ponies than yours.
The attached is another MGB to watch out for in the future, this one is work in progress,
Quad cam twin turbo lotus V8......
Lots of other go fast goodies
You were all over his backside like a bad dose of herpes ( ok maybe not the best analogy there)
That's some quick MGB, certainly with around 100 less ponies than yours.
The attached is another MGB to watch out for in the future, this one is work in progress,
Quad cam twin turbo lotus V8......
Lots of other go fast goodies
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 20, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
Oh and it's yellow lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
Mr "Hansford" here.
A well known racing driver who I have known for years, told me at the event that it drove him up the wall the keep hearing "Hansford" over the tannoy ::).
Anyway, I recon you had a hand designing the MG monster thing ;)
A well known racing driver who I have known for years, told me at the event that it drove him up the wall the keep hearing "Hansford" over the tannoy ::).
Anyway, I recon you had a hand designing the MG monster thing ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 09:19:49 AM
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 09:19:49 AM
Hello Mr "Hansford" lol Here is Race 2
RACE 2 https://youtu.be/X7Xwkn8HIb8
RACE 2 https://youtu.be/X7Xwkn8HIb8
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 11:28:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: clive on August 21, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
Mr "Hansford" here.
A well known racing driver who I have known for years, told me at the event that it drove him up the wall the keep hearing "Hansford" over the tannoy ::).
Anyway, I recon you had a hand designing the MG monster thing ;)
I wish I did!
Its not my bag, not a fan of MG's, but I really appreciate the engineering behind it.
Its built at Chris Isaacs Race cars who you have probably heard of from your drag racing days.. they are a clever bunch of guys there.
I do get my inspiration from this build tho.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 01:21:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 09:19:49 AM
Hello Mr "Hansford" lol Here is Race 2
RACE 2 https://youtu.be/X7Xwkn8HIb8
Im reaaallllyyyyyy confused over this commentator.
Why does he pronounce "Druid" as in Druids corner which should be pronounced as
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Druid
Instead he is pronouncing it as "Dru-eee-dee"
Am I missing something??, Am I wrong? is it a colloquial thing and that's how it should be said?
I know its trivial, but its really screwing with my OCD, its bad enough them calling you Hansford, ( I've heard haynsforth before now)
You should get Jon to knock up some stickers to go on the boot lid that says......
..... "The "Y" is NOT silent!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
just heard something from the commentator......
Maybe coz its an Italian event, has this corner been pronounced Dru-eee-dee from our friends in the boot shaped country??
Maybe coz its an Italian event, has this corner been pronounced Dru-eee-dee from our friends in the boot shaped country??
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 01:30:38 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
just heard something from the commentator......
Maybe coz its an Italian event, has this corner been pronounced Dru-eee-dee from our friends in the boot shaped country??
You got it, They renamed a few things on the day to be in the spirit of Italia :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Yep good result all round..cars looking alot better in the corners...
I was amazed at that Ginnetta coming out of corners mind.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 21, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Yep good result all round..cars looking alot better in the corners...
I was amazed at that Ginnetta coming out of corners mind.
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I saw that too, thought 0o0o0o0 whats the retail on one of those............
...............more than I can afford ! Ginetta
TORRETTO!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
You know the Black civics in Fast n Furious...that Torretto and guys drive...?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
Yeah ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
Im getting an ep3 tomoz...need a trackday need a car so bought 1...off to Ipswich tomoz..scooby fell through.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
ok ep3 is the model yeah?
Ace!
Clive may see you as the enemy tho........... another potential Civic in his mirrors lol
Are you gonna wind down the window and shout LETTY, JUMP !
Ace!
Clive may see you as the enemy tho........... another potential Civic in his mirrors lol
Are you gonna wind down the window and shout LETTY, JUMP !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:02:50 PM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 21, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Yep good result all round..cars looking alot better in the corners...
I was amazed at that Ginnetta coming out of corners mind.
I still think I can get the car cornering quicker ::)
I like outside pictures as it shows me what the car is doing.
I know Paddock hill is one pig of a corner and many deem it the most difficult corner on UK race tracks, but if you look at the pictures below, its still too soft on entry (keep the answers clean ;))as you will see the initial lean, not too bad further down the hill looking at the wheel arches though.
Over the winter I will up the spring rates all round to see if we can gain some more corner speed.
Jamie I have been called worse than haynsforth , indeed I have been told to goforth on more than one occasion ( you know the rest of that sentence ;))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 06:04:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 21, 2019, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:02:50 PMQuote from: boosted on August 21, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Yep good result all round..cars looking alot better in the corners...
I was amazed at that Ginnetta coming out of corners mind.
I still think I can get the car cornering quicker ::)
I like outside pictures as it shows me what the car is doing.
I know Paddock hill is one pig pf a corner and many deem it the most difficult corner on UK race tracks, but if you look at the pictures below, its still too soft on entry (keep the answers clean ;)
Its just your mind Clive ! lol
Get your mind out the gutter and join the rest of us up here haha
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
Mallory Park Circuit next on Saturday 14th September!
Timetable is out already
Timetable is out already
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 06:41:23 PM
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 06:41:23 PM
Watched quite a few vids of paddock hill..looks a very technical corner...in the wet you see the cars just peel off the circuit when they lose grip.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 21, 2019, 06:41:23 PM
Watched quite a few vids of paddock hill..looks a very technical corner...in the wet you see the cars just peel off the circuit when they lose grip.
You have to line yourself up way before you even see the corner, and yes a huge amount fall off.
Last year in the drivers briefing we were told they had four different cars crash on the Saturday.
A BMW promptly came out the pits to qualify went straight down Paddock Hill and rolled ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 07:52:32 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 21, 2019, 07:52:32 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 21, 2019, 06:41:23 PM
Watched quite a few vids of paddock hill..looks a very technical corner...in the wet you see the cars just peel off the circuit when they lose grip.
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It is harder for some as I found when this car span in front of me lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbi2i6QE-Y0
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 08:48:44 PM
Post by: boosted on August 21, 2019, 08:48:44 PM
Very intuitative...was Joe Pescale in the passenger seat? Lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 22, 2019, 07:56:37 AM
Post by: re japi on August 22, 2019, 07:56:37 AM
Car looked, well, abit "wobly"... Suspension setup or tyres? Comments Sir?
Nice fight with that red car. He did go sideways in few corners, when trying to keep up with you... But that white car, what a h was that, MGB? It was super fast...
Anyhoo, good job Sir :13: :sign0098:
Nice fight with that red car. He did go sideways in few corners, when trying to keep up with you... But that white car, what a h was that, MGB? It was super fast...
Anyhoo, good job Sir :13: :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 22, 2019, 08:25:57 AM
Post by: clive on August 22, 2019, 08:25:57 AM
Quote from: re japi on August 22, 2019, 07:56:37 AM
Car looked, well, abit "wobly"... Suspension setup or tyres? Comments Sir?
Nice fight with that red car. He did go sideways in few corners, when trying to keep up with you... But that white car, what a h was that, MGB? It was super fast...
Anyhoo, good job Sir :13: :sign0098:
As above I will probably up the spring rates but as for wobbly, this was probably where I was up on the kerbs, at one stage coming down from Druids I took too much kerb and it threw the car up in the air and across the road, decided not to try that again ;D
As for the white car, god knows how much money went into that car, as he had the car inside one of the best F1 style transporters I have ever seen!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 22, 2019, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: clive on August 21, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
Mallory Park Circuit next on Saturday 14th September!
Timetable is out already
Would liked to have gone to this one as its relatively close, Its the day we come back from holiday.
Sorry ole bean, try and catch you at the next.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 12, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
Post by: clive on September 12, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
All set for Saturday' racing and here's a link for anyone wanting to follow on https://www.tsl-timing.com/
https://brscc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Timetable-Mallory-Park-14-September-2019-Issue-2.pdf
https://brscc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Timetable-Mallory-Park-14-September-2019-Issue-2.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2019, 08:01:37 AM
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2019, 08:01:37 AM
Good luck Clive, im at a wedding but will be stealth listening with my headphones in 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
Good luck with the race, sir!!!
Im on my way to our last Championship rallycross event
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 10:43:43 AM
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 10:43:43 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2019, 01:34:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2019, 01:34:20 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 04:08:44 PM
Post by: re japi on September 13, 2019, 04:08:44 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2019, 03:08:49 PM
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2019, 03:08:49 PM
Darn, just missed the live commentary, but the qualifying and first race stats/results are here:
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2019/193731nip.pdf
Clive started 4th on the grid and finished 4th. The 3 cars in front finished in the first 3 places.
Not bad, but the good news is that Clive got the fastest lap time on lap 7 of 17 :sign0098:
Those two Clios and the Civic Type R will be a challenge in Clive's 2nd race (scheduled for 5pm), but I'm sure Clive's up for it :)
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2019/193731nip.pdf
Clive started 4th on the grid and finished 4th. The 3 cars in front finished in the first 3 places.
Not bad, but the good news is that Clive got the fastest lap time on lap 7 of 17 :sign0098:
Those two Clios and the Civic Type R will be a challenge in Clive's 2nd race (scheduled for 5pm), but I'm sure Clive's up for it :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 03:11:39 PM
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 03:11:39 PM
I missed it at a wedding...its got to the point where were expecting a win every race now. Which is great!!!
Race 2 race win ! Come on Clive you can do it.
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Race 2 race win ! Come on Clive you can do it.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 14, 2019, 03:20:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 14, 2019, 03:20:11 PM
Missed it ..... was in customs......
Can’t listen at 33,000 ft for the 2nd race but fingers crossed
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 05:07:16 PM
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 05:07:16 PM
Woohoo!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2019, 06:53:08 PM
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2019, 06:53:08 PM
Wooohoo indeed! I look forward to the video of the 2nd race in particular. Clive worked his way up from 4th on the grid to a WIN!!! :sign0098:
I missed the live commentary again, sadly :(
Fastest lap of 51.342s too.
Congratulations Clive, I'll bet you are pleased with that race and result :)
Results:
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2019/193731nip.pdf
I missed the live commentary again, sadly :(
Fastest lap of 51.342s too.
Congratulations Clive, I'll bet you are pleased with that race and result :)
Results:
https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2019/193731nip.pdf
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 15, 2019, 07:27:31 AM
Post by: re japi on September 15, 2019, 07:27:31 AM
Congrats!!!! 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 15, 2019, 09:05:23 AM
Post by: clive on September 15, 2019, 09:05:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pescaraproductions/videos/2313084038726945/?t=0
I will post a full report later ;D
I will post a full report later ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 15, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
0o0o0o0o0o0o0o That clio on the final bend was close to you !! well from that camera angle.
I do like mallory, looks tight for cars as Ive only ever watched bikes there.
You like that back straight, dont ya? Pass, block, great stuff. Inside, outside..... wombling free.
Good to see her back on track after the front end rework.... hows it performing for you? Better than before?
Good win clive :13:
I do like mallory, looks tight for cars as Ive only ever watched bikes there.
You like that back straight, dont ya? Pass, block, great stuff. Inside, outside..... wombling free.
Good to see her back on track after the front end rework.... hows it performing for you? Better than before?
Good win clive :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 15, 2019, 07:46:21 PM
Post by: clive on September 15, 2019, 07:46:21 PM
Going into the event I had a target of getting into the 51second bracket but the day started pretty pants as I was surprised to see a 53.8 which I wasn’t happy about but then made a small tyre pressure adjustment for a bit more rear grip. Then came the first race where I made a poor start and basically the leaders got away, so I still wasn’t happy “however†I did break into the 51’s and got fastest lap, so the car did have a little pace after all , with that said I did still beat the big money late Scirocco (compared to mine) that was in my class to get the class win and 4th overall !
Lucky to make the end of the first race as the alternator had stopped charging, so I put another battery in parallel to hopefully give me enough power capacity for the next race. Into the second Race then and I had a little word with myself that I must try harder, so I did.
The red Clio of Nick Gwinnett’s is even quicker now with a newer sequential box on board and the only way I was quicker was because 2/3rd’s of the way around Gerrards because of the extra grip the front end has, I was able to go full throttle in 4th and carry a lot of corner speed onto the back straight. What you don’t see on the video is that I couldn’t get the car fast out the hairpin, which let Nick get along side every time, but even though I kept the car tight out through the corner onto the straight, he could get around the outside. Last lap Nick tried extra hard and got his nose in front but as he was still turning left and going downhill the backend lost grip and around he went into the barrier
I was really upset thinking that initially that he may have been hurt then later that his car was damaged, also to see a race that I was so enjoying end the way it did with that damage.
First of all I though “maybe†Nik had clipped me but the four officials right up in the tower who witnessed the incident saw that the back end of the Clio, just lost grip!
So so , pleased I got out the throttle as I started to see the back come round so I didn’t T bone him, which would have made for a much bigger accident.
There was a small mark on a front winglet but we couldn’t tie that in with anything on Nick’s car, but now I have seen the video, I can see it was a “love tap†from Phil Wright’s Civic going into Gerrards , which I had a good battles with at the start of each race.
So to wrap this long story off, got to be pleased with two overall fastest laps, two class wins and an overall win.
Below you will see things got a bit close! And also how close it was with Nicks Clio.
Lastly to put things into perspective about how quick the Track Attack cars are, the was an Audi A8 ALMS racing in another class on slicks with god knows how much power and aero sat on pole, only just over two seconds a lap faster than our cars.
Lucky to make the end of the first race as the alternator had stopped charging, so I put another battery in parallel to hopefully give me enough power capacity for the next race. Into the second Race then and I had a little word with myself that I must try harder, so I did.
The red Clio of Nick Gwinnett’s is even quicker now with a newer sequential box on board and the only way I was quicker was because 2/3rd’s of the way around Gerrards because of the extra grip the front end has, I was able to go full throttle in 4th and carry a lot of corner speed onto the back straight. What you don’t see on the video is that I couldn’t get the car fast out the hairpin, which let Nick get along side every time, but even though I kept the car tight out through the corner onto the straight, he could get around the outside. Last lap Nick tried extra hard and got his nose in front but as he was still turning left and going downhill the backend lost grip and around he went into the barrier
I was really upset thinking that initially that he may have been hurt then later that his car was damaged, also to see a race that I was so enjoying end the way it did with that damage.
First of all I though “maybe†Nik had clipped me but the four officials right up in the tower who witnessed the incident saw that the back end of the Clio, just lost grip!
So so , pleased I got out the throttle as I started to see the back come round so I didn’t T bone him, which would have made for a much bigger accident.
There was a small mark on a front winglet but we couldn’t tie that in with anything on Nick’s car, but now I have seen the video, I can see it was a “love tap†from Phil Wright’s Civic going into Gerrards , which I had a good battles with at the start of each race.
So to wrap this long story off, got to be pleased with two overall fastest laps, two class wins and an overall win.
Below you will see things got a bit close! And also how close it was with Nicks Clio.
Lastly to put things into perspective about how quick the Track Attack cars are, the was an Audi A8 ALMS racing in another class on slicks with god knows how much power and aero sat on pole, only just over two seconds a lap faster than our cars.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 15, 2019, 08:43:07 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 15, 2019, 08:43:07 PM
Good going Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
Many thanks for the above comments.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
I thought I would show you that things really did get a bit fast n furious at Mallory ;)
I suppose this is what I get for poking my nose in where its not wanted ???
I suppose this is what I get for poking my nose in where its not wanted ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:04:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:04:51 PM
Blimey you’ve only just had that redone.
You’re keeping Steve busy lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
Rubbings racing...
How bad is Nicks car?
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How bad is Nicks car?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:11:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:06:06 PMLol rubbings racing, I’ve not heard that for ages.
Rubbings racing...
How bad is Nicks car?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:12:16 PM
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:12:16 PM
Days of Thunder!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:19:53 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:19:53 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 08:04:51 PM
Blimey you’ve only just had that redone.
You’re keeping Steve busy lol
I wanted a little re-design ( not like this though) and because of what I wanted Steve's come up with a variation that should give even more frint end grip---- grip --------------grip always need more grip. ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 16, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
Rubbings racing...
How bad is Nicks car?
Never been one to back away from a little Rubbins Racin
Nick's Cars not good, he did exactly what I would have done and have done with a front wheel drive car, he kept his foot in.
If you lift with a FWD car that's out of control, you just go straight, trouble is, you hit the barrier harder.
Not a write off and hopefully he will be at Donny next month.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhC329v5_vU&fbclid=IwAR10FB4aGqyksaMuy0QV43lzGBpdgzcutDg6p4HDLnPxy9fnx4aw9i75Lek
Worth a look around 14 minutes in as you at least get an impression of speed
Worth a look around 14 minutes in as you at least get an impression of speed
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
Clive
Have you considered using a roof scoop to get cold air into the car whilst racing ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2019, 09:28:03 AM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2019, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
Clive
Have you considered using a roof scoop to get cold air into the car whilst racing ?
Yes I have considered one, but your looking at maybe £300 for a good one, plus they are pig ugly :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 09:38:41 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: clive on September 17, 2019, 09:28:03 AMMaybe a bit ugly but worth every penny , I wish I’d fitted one years ago , constant fresh air blowing in your face is very nice .Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
Clive
Have you considered using a roof scoop to get cold air into the car whilst racing ?
Yes I have considered one, but your looking at maybe £300 for a good one, plus they are pig ugly :D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on September 17, 2019, 10:53:50 AM
Post by: steve phillips on September 17, 2019, 10:53:50 AM
I'm disappointed Clive I really am
Just two bent canards that we can easily repair.....😁
What am I going to sell at my next modern art auction???
Your just not being as creative any more.... And no grass.....
I despair I really do.....
Just two bent canards that we can easily repair.....😁
What am I going to sell at my next modern art auction???
Your just not being as creative any more.... And no grass.....
I despair I really do.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
Can anyone else smell the sarcasm from Steve???? lol
Wayne, that's a fair shout....
I was looking at these the other day
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/grp4-fabrications-evo-style-fibreglass-roof-vent-grp6472fg/
Ive gotta shave so much weight out of my doors, I was contemplating just fixed polycarb side windows but without the slidey vents and thought I need something as ive removed the air con system from the Rotus.
Then I thought ive done so much fibreglassing of late, I may have a go of making my own.
I joke to people who come round the shed and say, the roof is the only original part that is Lotus.
Turns out that may not be the case anymore lol
Wayne, that's a fair shout....
I was looking at these the other day
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/grp4-fabrications-evo-style-fibreglass-roof-vent-grp6472fg/
Ive gotta shave so much weight out of my doors, I was contemplating just fixed polycarb side windows but without the slidey vents and thought I need something as ive removed the air con system from the Rotus.
Then I thought ive done so much fibreglassing of late, I may have a go of making my own.
I joke to people who come round the shed and say, the roof is the only original part that is Lotus.
Turns out that may not be the case anymore lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 11:46:49 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 11:19:54 AMJamie
Can anyone else smell the sarcasm from Steve???? lol
Wayne, that's a fair shout....
I was looking at these the other day
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/grp4-fabrications-evo-style-fibreglass-roof-vent-grp6472fg/
Ive gotta shave so much weight out of my doors, I was contemplating just fixed polycarb side windows but without the slidey vents and thought I need something as ive removed the air con system from the Rotus.
Then I thought ive done so much fibreglassing of late, I may have a go of making my own.
I joke to people who come round the shed and say, the roof is the only original part that is Lotus.
Turns out that may not be the case anymore lol
I have the TRS carbon one , it’s real good and looks very similar to the one you attached but slightly more expensive at £245.00 . You could have a bash at making one but it’s the internal adjustable vents which aim the air that are critical . And of course being able to close them in winter
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 01:04:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 17, 2019, 01:04:44 PM
I thought about buying a couple of these and graft them on
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/demon-tweeks-adjustable-dash-air-vent-437332/
I like the drain on the housing to connect a hose to, to drain off the rain water... simple idea and it works. Wasn't sure how they did that till I saw the piccys. I.E. the vents are higher than the drain.
Carbon Fibre eh? you going all posh on us? lol
I don't think my skills extend as far as making carbon parts.
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/demon-tweeks-adjustable-dash-air-vent-437332/
I like the drain on the housing to connect a hose to, to drain off the rain water... simple idea and it works. Wasn't sure how they did that till I saw the piccys. I.E. the vents are higher than the drain.
Carbon Fibre eh? you going all posh on us? lol
I don't think my skills extend as far as making carbon parts.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: clive on September 17, 2019, 09:28:03 AMJust take the windscreen out Clive, saves weight and you will have maximum wind blowing through your hairQuote from: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
Clive
Have you considered using a roof scoop to get cold air into the car whilst racing ?
Yes I have considered one, but your looking at maybe £300 for a good one, plus they are pig ugly :D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2019, 08:34:29 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2019, 08:34:29 PM
[/quote]Just take the windscreen out Clive, saves weight and you will have maximum wind blowing through your hair
[/quote]
Yep, I would just take em all out and done with if I could >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
Then you have a big Westfield....lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Quote from: steve phillips on September 17, 2019, 10:53:50 AMLol be careful what you wish for Steve!!
I'm disappointed Clive I really am
Just two bent canards that we can easily repair.....
What am I going to sell at my next modern art auction???
Your just not being as creative any more.... And no grass.....
I despair I really do.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 18, 2019, 08:20:08 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 18, 2019, 08:20:08 AM
Here is the in-car video from Race 2 Mallory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftn4NO353es
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 08:39:21 AM
Nice to see Mallory from a different angle.
Good to see lots of overtaking with cars of very different characteristics, you and the clios remind me a bit of the old days when the minis used to be up against the big yanks tanks.
Couldnt get a fag paper between you 2 on that last bend.
My backside would have been twitchin
Good to see lots of overtaking with cars of very different characteristics, you and the clios remind me a bit of the old days when the minis used to be up against the big yanks tanks.
Couldnt get a fag paper between you 2 on that last bend.
My backside would have been twitchin
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 09:37:03 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 09:37:03 AM
Good job you don’t do this sort of racing Clive. Last weekends events could have been very different
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 11:02:21 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 11:02:21 AM
Clive couldn't you take the side windows and and put netting in instead?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 11:09:51 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 11:09:51 AM
Just had a look at the mx5 cup cars and it's funny how they don't have side windows or netting.
What do you wear safety wise Clive? A helmet obviously, racing suit gloves and shoes? Have you got a hand device? Fire extinguisher?
All things I'm going to have to get once iv done my car
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What do you wear safety wise Clive? A helmet obviously, racing suit gloves and shoes? Have you got a hand device? Fire extinguisher?
All things I'm going to have to get once iv done my car
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:06:52 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:06:52 PM
Didnt leave you any room did he, he turned himself around on you trying to block you to the line. :dontknow:
I think a shift light would help you Clive in the heat of battle to get the shift up done at the optimum time and stop you hitting limiter. I have 1 in the rx7. it was only £70. 5 stage progressive, and real simply to fit live neutral and a trigger off coil. 1 further wire which you ground to set the max rpm... :mumum:
ill find link.
mallory looked very small and scary with naff all run off. :sign0098:
I think a shift light would help you Clive in the heat of battle to get the shift up done at the optimum time and stop you hitting limiter. I have 1 in the rx7. it was only £70. 5 stage progressive, and real simply to fit live neutral and a trigger off coil. 1 further wire which you ground to set the max rpm... :mumum:
ill find link.
mallory looked very small and scary with naff all run off. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:10:34 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:10:34 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEGIWA-PROGRESSIVE-SHIFT-LIGHT-UNIVERSAL/401585649832?hash=item5d805eb8a8:g:xSQAAOSwyohbes6R
this looks identical to the cartek 1 i have.
seems mine has gone up abit. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARTEK-Sequential-Gear-Change-Shift-Light-R-R32-VR6-S3-RS3-TT-RS-Turbo-Charged/162028684056?hash=item25b9a98318:g:mG8AAOSwiqBb-FJ5
this looks identical to the cartek 1 i have.
seems mine has gone up abit. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARTEK-Sequential-Gear-Change-Shift-Light-R-R32-VR6-S3-RS3-TT-RS-Turbo-Charged/162028684056?hash=item25b9a98318:g:mG8AAOSwiqBb-FJ5
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 18, 2019, 12:26:55 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 18, 2019, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:06:52 PM
Didnt leave you any room did he, he turned himself around on you trying to block you to the line. :dontknow:
I think a shift light would help you Clive in the heat of battle to get the shift up done at the optimum time and stop you hitting limiter. I have 1 in the rx7. it was only £70. 5 stage progressive, and real simply to fit live neutral and a trigger off coil. 1 further wire which you ground to set the max rpm... :mumum:
ill find link.
mallory looked very small and scary with naff all run off. :sign0098:
I've been suggesting this for the past 2 years lol ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:31:22 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:31:22 PM
Well early Chrimbo pressie Clive you done me plenty of deals over the years and saved me a fortune...so ill treat you to 1.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:33:08 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:33:08 PM
And it gives Steve summit cool to fit. Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 02:31:53 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 02:31:53 PM
I bought the last 1 on ebay...
Ill send on when here.
Happy early chrimbo...
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Ill send on when here.
Happy early chrimbo...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 11:09:51 AM
Just had a look at the mx5 cup cars and it's funny how they don't have side windows or netting.
What do you wear safety wise Clive? A helmet obviously, racing suit gloves and shoes? Have you got a hand device? Fire extinguisher?
All things I'm going to have to get once iv done my car
Yes, As per rules, helmet, fire prof racing suit, gloves, shoes and Hans device, I do find the Fire extinguisher a little bulky to wear though :D :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 03:50:58 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 18, 2019, 12:31:22 PM
Well early Chrimbo pressie Clive you done me plenty of deals over the years and saved me a fortune...so ill treat you to 1.
"Rev Counter" what Rev counter, far too busy fighting off the Klingons on the starboard bow :13:
Jon, star as always, Ah, so I will have idiot lights to guide me, that means I just have to sort the idiot behind the wheel.
Seriously though thank you,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 18, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Post by: re japi on September 18, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
I hav said this many many many times:
Safety stuff isnt best option to save money. Absolutely get Hans and Fire extinguisher system
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Safety stuff isnt best option to save money. Absolutely get Hans and Fire extinguisher system
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
It will be a revelation!!! As the light illuminates you' ll instictively reach for the lever...
Got both in westy and 7...there awesome no more rpm cut ..
Its programmable for green amber red and flashing red so can set up race start rpms on green if so wish as well.
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Got both in westy and 7...there awesome no more rpm cut ..
Its programmable for green amber red and flashing red so can set up race start rpms on green if so wish as well.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 04:02:47 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 04:02:47 PM
Grant, well spotted I have just seen the Super Cup cars have nothing to stop your arms flying out the window whilst rolling.
Years ago a friend of mine rolled at Lydden and as a reaction put his arm out the window and held onto the roof!!
He left imprints of his fingers on the roof but did not break them.
We showed him lots of sympathy by painting the outline of his fingers in red on the roof >:D
I have actually been considering a window net for next year anyway.
OK Grant, what racing are you thinking of doing ???
Years ago a friend of mine rolled at Lydden and as a reaction put his arm out the window and held onto the roof!!
He left imprints of his fingers on the roof but did not break them.
We showed him lots of sympathy by painting the outline of his fingers in red on the roof >:D
I have actually been considering a window net for next year anyway.
OK Grant, what racing are you thinking of doing ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 04:04:22 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 04:04:22 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 18, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
It will be a revelation!!! As the light illuminates you' ll instictively reach for the lever...
Got both in westy and 7...there awesome no more rpm cut ..
Its programmable for green amber red and flashing red so can set up race start rpms on green if so wish as well.
Wow, that's so much more clever than my right foot :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 04:13:41 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2019, 04:13:41 PM
Lol...also when were watching vids nice flashy lights to watch too.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 04:23:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2019, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: clive on September 18, 2019, 04:02:47 PMDrag racing, but a few track days might be needed as iv only ever done 1 and if I have a but of talent I might try some circuit stuff but that will all be decided once it's running etc.
Grant, well spotted I have just seen the Super Cup cars have nothing to stop your arms flying out the window whilst rolling.
Years ago a friend of mine rolled at Lydden and as a reaction put his arm out the window and held onto the roof!!
He left imprints of his fingers on the roof but did not break them.
We showed him lots of sympathy by painting the outline of his fingers in red on the roof >:D
I have actually been considering a window net for next year anyway.
OK Grant, what racing are you thinking of doing ???
Safety gear will be a massive priority. Don't carw about weight savings as iv got kids to think about rather than winning stuff.
My first goal is to. Just have fun, and I am already by working in my car
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Just watched that 2nd race video - wow, some really close and tough racing there :sign0098:
Well done Philip, some superb editing of front and rear camera footage to show all the action :notworthy:
Well done Philip, some superb editing of front and rear camera footage to show all the action :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Philip was even a star more than normal as the steward wanted the picture card to help with the crash investigation and the card was corrupt.
Luckily Philip salvaged all the footage :great: :great: :great:
Still haven't had time to view yet, but Jon tells me he dissected the footage frame by frame and worked out that I got up on the kerb right near the barrier and also lifted to let him go and also apparently you can hear my dismay at what happened.
Luckily Philip salvaged all the footage :great: :great: :great:
Still haven't had time to view yet, but Jon tells me he dissected the footage frame by frame and worked out that I got up on the kerb right near the barrier and also lifted to let him go and also apparently you can hear my dismay at what happened.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 09:18:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2019, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 18, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
I hav said this many many many times:
Safety stuff isnt best option to save money. Absolutely get Hans and Fire extinguisher system
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To echo jarno's point on safety.
I've just watched this vid on Facebook, I found it quite disturbing
https://www.facebook.com/giuseppe.sparco/videos/616179718788237/
It's not gory, or needs 18 warning.
But it's the thought that you buy safety equipment in the hope in the event if an accident, it keeps you safe but it lets you down.
Not many marshals close by 😞😞
I hope the driver makes a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on September 19, 2019, 08:57:55 AM
Post by: rote8 on September 19, 2019, 08:57:55 AM
Having now watched the video there were many attempts by cars to block an overtaking manouvre by moving off the racing line in front of other competitors, which is always risky and invariably ultimately ends in disaster :nono:, this was a last ditch attempt to achieve the win simply hoping you would back out as you had the racing line IMO. I am assuming this is what the race control decided. Maybe I have lost the racing instinct but I was never win at all cost, especially knowing I had to drive my vehicle home afterward :(. (In fact I never did win any race so what do I know :dontknow:)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 19, 2019, 01:08:51 PM
Post by: clive on September 19, 2019, 01:08:51 PM
Many thanks Ray.
Here we go, this one shows it all got a little close ::)
Here we go, this one shows it all got a little close ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
Civic sandwich...you need them spinning blades like on chariots.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 19, 2019, 07:32:12 PM
Post by: clive on September 19, 2019, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 19, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
Civic sandwich...you need them spinning blades like on chariots.....
I did try chopping their tyres with my cannards ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2019, 02:08:50 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2019, 02:08:50 PM
Quote from: Casey on September 18, 2019, 07:05:37 PM
Just watched that 2nd race video - wow, some really close and tough racing there :sign0098:
Well done Philip, some superb editing of front and rear camera footage to show all the action :notworthy:
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 02:43:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 02:43:14 PM
Holy crap 8 just watched the lad crash. I have no knowledge of racing craft and I think that he completely clocked up there
Clive I think you need to add a "push to pass" button add a couple more pounds of boost
OR
Try add some more lightness
Main reason for me getting an mx5 was the light weight Ness. I'm hoping to get it under 1000kg
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Clive I think you need to add a "push to pass" button add a couple more pounds of boost
OR
Try add some more lightness
Main reason for me getting an mx5 was the light weight Ness. I'm hoping to get it under 1000kg
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 20, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
Didn't you notice, I had push to pass on the back straight------- if I hadn't of passed them I would have pushed them, hang on that's not quite what you meant was it ::)
Finally got the car on a weighbridge on Saturday and yes she's a big ol girl, weighing in with a full bladder (fuel tank) at exactly 1250 Kilo
Finally got the car on a weighbridge on Saturday and yes she's a big ol girl, weighing in with a full bladder (fuel tank) at exactly 1250 Kilo
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 08:21:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 08:21:59 PM
1250 is actually not that bad but another 100kg lighter would, even 50 kg would probably make a huge difference
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 05:09:00 AM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 05:09:00 AM
I make that at 388 bhp per tonne...
With a driver weight of 95kg...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 09:07:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: boosted on September 21, 2019, 05:09:00 AMThere's no way Clive weighs 95, I'm 95 and clives a lot smaller than me
I make that at 388 bhp per tonne...
With a driver weight of 95kg...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 09:28:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 09:28:38 AM
Whats with all these light people in here?
Am i the only heffer ?
Am i the only heffer ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 09:38:55 AM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 09:38:55 AM
Estimate...with race suit, hans helmet and gloves rabbits foot in pocket...it all adds up.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 09:40:25 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 09:40:25 AM
Oh yeh forgot about those things
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Lol guess the weight of Clive in his race attire game....
Im sticking with 95kg.
Clive your gonna have to have a weigh...if its 90 or less your in the 400bhp per tonne club
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Im sticking with 95kg.
Clive your gonna have to have a weigh...if its 90 or less your in the 400bhp per tonne club
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:31:52 AM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:31:52 AM
Just had a mail in from a guy I know personally in the Netherlands and his egi FC weighs in at just 975 Kg including full tank and driver, WOW
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:36:11 AM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: boosted on September 21, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Lol guess the weight of Clive in his race attire game....
Im sticking with 95kg.
Clive your gonna have to have a weigh...if its 90 or less your in the 400bhp per tonne club
Just had a look and I weigh in at 82 KG :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
With your gear on ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 12:01:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 21, 2019, 12:01:04 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 12:56:06 PM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 21, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
With your gear on ?
Well, I can assure you it wasn't naked ::)
Anyway I thought I would share this from last weekend as I personally think its one of the best shots of the car I have seen,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 03:22:31 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 03:22:31 PM
Yep Christines looking mean and moody...prob because shes got a bent canard...lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 21, 2019, 03:58:55 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 21, 2019, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: clive on September 21, 2019, 12:56:06 PMThat’s a nice a nice photo . Still needs a roof vent lolQuote from: boosted on September 21, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
With your gear on ?
Well, I can assure you it wasn't naked ::)
Anyway I thought I would share this from last weekend as I personally think its one of the best shots of the car I have seen,
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 06:52:04 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 06:52:04 PM
Flashing light consul arrived...
1. Nuetral block...white plastic with several black wires in passenger footwell.
2. Switched live. Spares fused power from little cabin fuse holder in passenger foot well.
3. Trigger..connect to a trailing trigger at ecu plug.
4. Then the setting wire you raise revs then ground this at set points.
Mount where you like in your peripheral vision area..
Be inda post monday..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190921/32de4bc2100d30b8998956dac3d34c1a.jpg)
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1. Nuetral block...white plastic with several black wires in passenger footwell.
2. Switched live. Spares fused power from little cabin fuse holder in passenger foot well.
3. Trigger..connect to a trailing trigger at ecu plug.
4. Then the setting wire you raise revs then ground this at set points.
Mount where you like in your peripheral vision area..
Be inda post monday..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190921/32de4bc2100d30b8998956dac3d34c1a.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 08:26:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 21, 2019, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 21, 2019, 06:52:04 PMSeeing as your uting people presents can I have a nitrous kit please
Flashing light consul arrived...
1. Nuetral block...white plastic with several black wires in passenger footwell.
2. Switched live. Spares fused power from little cabin fuse holder in passenger foot well.
3. Trigger..connect to a trailing trigger at ecu plug.
4. Then the setting wire you raise revs then ground this at set points.
Mount where you like in your peripheral vision area..
Be inda post monday..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190921/32de4bc2100d30b8998956dac3d34c1a.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:28:40 PM
Post by: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:28:40 PM
Many thanks Jon, really appreciated. :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2019, 02:03:13 PM
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2019, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: clive on September 21, 2019, 10:31:52 AMDamn
Just had a mail in from a guy I know personally in the Netherlands and his egi FC weighs in at just 975 Kg including full tank and driver, WOW
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2019, 08:00:07 PM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2019, 08:00:07 PM
I bet you would be a little frayed if I dragged you around the race track at 100mph for 16 laps ::)
I think I found why the car wasn't charging for the second race, the terminal had fractured off the back of the alternator !
I checked the small wires on the alternator at the track, wish now I had pulled the nsf wheel off and had a proper look :(
I would say this happened because of the vibration from the misfire, last time out, but the good news is that its a cheaper fix than having the alternator repaired :13:.
I think I found why the car wasn't charging for the second race, the terminal had fractured off the back of the alternator !
I checked the small wires on the alternator at the track, wish now I had pulled the nsf wheel off and had a proper look :(
I would say this happened because of the vibration from the misfire, last time out, but the good news is that its a cheaper fix than having the alternator repaired :13:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Boohoo thats my wiring Clive...out of warranty lol..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2019, 08:34:44 PM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2019, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Boohoo thats my wiring Clive...out of warranty lol..
What no warranty!, never been raced or rallied, honest guv ::).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Lol...is the lug still attached? Trying to ascertain failure....pulled off due to stress or nut fell off alternator then it dangled down...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
Steve got the kit to make another?
Or i can make up and send you another?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on September 23, 2019, 10:43:38 PM
Post by: steve phillips on September 23, 2019, 10:43:38 PM
Hi Jon, Yes got everything to sort it thanks,
Steve.
Steve.
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 23, 2019, 11:06:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 23, 2019, 11:06:02 PM
Clive I'm assuming your using a full poly bushed kit? Would you say that making them out of a hard plastic/rubber would be bad?
The car would obviously harder on bumps etc
Going to be making my own bushings that's all as I did that on my fd
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The car would obviously harder on bumps etc
Going to be making my own bushings that's all as I did that on my fd
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2019, 08:43:50 AM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2019, 08:43:50 AM
Quote from: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Lol...is the lug still attached? Trying to ascertain failure....pulled off due to stress or nut fell off alternator then it dangled down...
The nut was still nice and tight , just down to vibration, as said probably due to the misfire.
Found part of an old loom to make the new one to get the correct diameter wire.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2019, 08:55:18 AM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2019, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 23, 2019, 11:06:02 PM
Clive I'm assuming your using a full poly bushed kit? Would you say that making them out of a hard plastic/rubber would be bad?
The car would obviously harder on bumps etc
Going to be making my own bushings that's all as I did that on my fd
Grant I use an Energy Suspension Bushing Kit and did on the road car.
I didn't notice any harsher ride on the road car , also with the other Super Pro and Powerflex bushes we sell, these are cheaper by far.
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mazda-mx5-nc-energy-suspension-bushing-kit-2330-p.asp
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 24, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
Post by: boosted on September 24, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: clive on September 24, 2019, 08:43:50 AMYep cool....just doing some root cause analysis. Down to murphys law...Quote from: boosted on September 23, 2019, 08:52:26 PM
Lol...is the lug still attached? Trying to ascertain failure....pulled off due to stress or nut fell off alternator then it dangled down...
The nut was still nice and tight , just down to vibration, as said probably due to the misfire.
Found part of an old loom to make the new one to get the correct diameter wire.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 25, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
Post by: boosted on September 25, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
Flashy lights n stickers should be with you tomoz...ive been away on a training course..
18th ed electrical wiring regulations...yawn.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 25, 2019, 07:02:40 PM
Post by: clive on September 25, 2019, 07:02:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 25, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
Flashy lights n stickers should be with you tomoz...ive been away on a training course..
18th ed electrical wiring regulations...yawn.
:wee_hee: Thank you
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 25, 2019, 07:07:46 PM
Post by: boosted on September 25, 2019, 07:07:46 PM
Check the instructions as per my notes as no time to read them b4 going away but its the same as mine so hopefully no wiring changes. The little cabin fuse box has spare ignition lives onit.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 26, 2019, 01:18:39 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2019, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 25, 2019, 07:07:46 PM
Check the instructions as per my notes as no time to read them b4 going away but its the same as mine so hopefully no wiring changes. The little cabin fuse box has spare ignition lives onit.
Many thanks Jon received, thankyou also for the fresh stickers
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
Timetables up for Donnington, going to be a long day !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 02, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
Post by: boosted on October 02, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
Gutted i cant make this....got 3 days holiday left til 1st April...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:17:19 AM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:17:19 AM
Race 2 Start from inside the Castrol Honda, I see I was literally on the edge of the track on the straight!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:49:18 AM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:49:18 AM
Having found I could do a race without an alternator, with the help of Steve making up the leads while I modded the battery box, we now have two battery's in the box. :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:12:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:12:53 AM
Daft question and I think I know the answer... But why get rid of the alternator and replace with another battery?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 09:24:28 AM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 09:24:28 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:12:53 AM
Daft question and I think I know the answer... But why get rid of the alternator and replace with another battery?
Yes I got away with no alternator at Mallory but I still need to make sure I have good voltage.
Earlier in the year the marshals got me to start and stop the engine so many times before lining up, eventually the car failed to start and I couldn't race.
With both battery's on board that still weigh in at only around three kilos they are not really a handicap and this way I should never have any more issues.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:31:00 AM
So you have done it to drop a couple of kilos in weight?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 09:31:00 AM
So you have done it to drop a couple of kilos in weight?
Nope, it adds 1.5 kilo with the second battery.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
So why have you gone for 2 batteries and no alternator?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
So why have you gone for 2 batteries and no alternator?
OK, at Mallory the alternator stopped charging and I strapped on a second battery and it got me through the race :)
Alternator is now working but I have fitted the second battery in parallel so I still have 12 volts and I now have back up, so if the alternator ever dies again I will be OK.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
Ah right, a reliability upgrade lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:23:23 PM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2019, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
Ah right, a reliability upgrade lol
Yes, yes :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 07, 2019, 05:17:09 PM
Post by: clive on October 07, 2019, 05:17:09 PM
So now I know its weight and BHP I stuck this info into a BHP PER TONNE calculator and came up with 415, so anyone got any ideas if this is good or bad?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 07, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
Post by: boosted on October 07, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
Frikin awesome....you have plenty of power!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 07, 2019, 05:22:35 PM
Post by: boosted on October 07, 2019, 05:22:35 PM
I use the westfield kit car calc...
It shows other cars that are in range.you have more than
Lamborghi Murcielargo lp640. And Diablo gt
And Ascari kz1. 406 bhp per tonne.
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It shows other cars that are in range.you have more than
Lamborghi Murcielargo lp640. And Diablo gt
And Ascari kz1. 406 bhp per tonne.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 07, 2019, 07:32:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 07, 2019, 07:32:19 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 07, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 07, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
Super cars in your range(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191007/bebeb4b2381eb9863ce8261e7092b769.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191007/c1906cb4ba4b152c60a04aa5a42e7166.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 07, 2019, 09:23:30 PM
Post by: clive on October 07, 2019, 09:23:30 PM
Wow, the above has surprised me because it never feels quick! (honest, I'm not being funny, it just don't )
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:04:30 AM
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:04:30 AM
I usually use Horses per Kilograms...
But thats awesome
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But thats awesome
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 08, 2019, 07:25:01 AM
Post by: clive on October 08, 2019, 07:25:01 AM
Quote from: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:04:30 AM
I usually use Horses per Kilograms...
But thats awesome
Morning Jarno, yes that's what I did through this site below.
https://www.launchtech.co.uk/bhp-calculator/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:52:33 AM
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:52:33 AM
Morning sir.
I ment like this, for example
1380kg ÷ 450bhp = 3,066
Gives more accurate ration with desimals
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I ment like this, for example
1380kg ÷ 450bhp = 3,066
Gives more accurate ration with desimals
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2019, 08:01:43 AM
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2019, 08:01:43 AM
never heard of that b4, just more numbers.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 08:04:11 AM
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 08:04:11 AM
In normal car, ratio is about 4-4,5 kilos per horse. So basically if you lose 4 kg from car, you gain one horse.
Ofcourse its not like this. Cause when you lose weight, car behaves and brakes better.
But basics are the same, and gives more accurate numbers. Calculating like this, you can see those little desimals more easily
3:1 ratio is quite good, but 1:1 is optimal
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Ofcourse its not like this. Cause when you lose weight, car behaves and brakes better.
But basics are the same, and gives more accurate numbers. Calculating like this, you can see those little desimals more easily
3:1 ratio is quite good, but 1:1 is optimal
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2019, 08:09:22 AM
Post by: boosted on October 08, 2019, 08:09:22 AM
Ok mate. Too early for my brain...
Westy is 560 and est 200bhp...
Works out over 300bhp per tonne.
Whats that in ratio?
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Westy is 560 and est 200bhp...
Works out over 300bhp per tonne.
Whats that in ratio?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 08, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 08, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 08, 2019, 08:09:22 AM520÷200=2.8bhp per kg
Ok mate. Too early for my brain...
Westy is 560 and est 200bhp...
Works out over 300bhp per tonne.
Whats that in ratio?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 09, 2019, 02:06:18 AM
Post by: re japi on October 09, 2019, 02:06:18 AM
Umm, its 2,8kgs per bhp... One horse needs to get 2,8kgs moving... ;D
But yes, when you get to 2,8:1 ratio area, its good. :D
But yes, when you get to 2,8:1 ratio area, its good. :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 10, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
Post by: clive on October 10, 2019, 09:16:18 AM
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We have decided to pull out all the stops and pay to have our Donington Autumn Trophy live streamed this year to help get the TARC brand out there. If you have not yet done so, please support us by entering the event and spreading the news and when its available the promo film afterwards.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2019, 01:54:13 PM
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2019, 01:54:13 PM
Ohhh! Famous Mr Handsford! In his twin turbo rx8.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 10, 2019, 06:53:22 PM
Post by: clive on October 10, 2019, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 10, 2019, 01:54:13 PM
Ohhh! Famous Mr Handsford! In his twin turbo rx8.
Been called worse ;)
Just went on the Track Attack Race Club and seen that over 30 cars have registered to race for Donington, should be fun ;D.
Also spotted this picture, I was deliberate running close to the wall to get a better exit, but I didn't realise I was getting quite this close!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
Post by: boosted on October 10, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
You got the flashy light in yet?.. im hoping i can make this...but 2.6 days hols left to april...
I got 3 days ot last month...i wanted lieu but company policy says no!! Thing is ive used hols for hospital apps etc...raaa...they need cover soon...ill cover but only for time lieu...
Saves them money too...bonkers.
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I got 3 days ot last month...i wanted lieu but company policy says no!! Thing is ive used hols for hospital apps etc...raaa...they need cover soon...ill cover but only for time lieu...
Saves them money too...bonkers.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 08:35:43 AM
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 08:35:43 AM
Not been near the car for a couple of weeks due to work and a few days away etc.
This weekend providing they arrive today, I need to do a full brake pad change then start have a look at plumbing the lights in that you kindly donated to the cause.
I know you said pick up a trailing coil wire but the destructions say pick up a rev counter wire ?.
May have to set it up at the track, as in my dark dingy underground garage the neighbours get twitchy when I rev the car
This weekend providing they arrive today, I need to do a full brake pad change then start have a look at plumbing the lights in that you kindly donated to the cause.
I know you said pick up a trailing coil wire but the destructions say pick up a rev counter wire ?.
May have to set it up at the track, as in my dark dingy underground garage the neighbours get twitchy when I rev the car
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 09:31:21 AM
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 09:31:21 AM
Your tacho revs come from canbus Clive so no dice.
Choose a trailing trigger wire and splice into it at ecu plug.
It will only get half rpm input but does not matter its just where you set it..you ground the wire to set..i found a layby lol todo the 7.
Just need to bounce of the limiter once...you do that a few times a race mate lol...
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Choose a trailing trigger wire and splice into it at ecu plug.
It will only get half rpm input but does not matter its just where you set it..you ground the wire to set..i found a layby lol todo the 7.
Just need to bounce of the limiter once...you do that a few times a race mate lol...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 11, 2019, 09:31:21 AM
Your tacho revs come from canbus Clive so no dice.
Choose a trailing trigger wire and splice into it at ecu plug.
It will only get half rpm input but does not matter its just where you set it..you ground the wire to set..i found a layby lol todo the 7.
Just need to bounce of the limiter once...you do that a few times a race mate lol...
:bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
The BRSCC Live Stream will be broadcast via our You Tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBRSCC and also via their Facebook page,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Feck it im coming!!!! If the scooby passes mot on wednesday!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
Post by: clive on October 11, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 11, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Feck it im coming!!!! If the scooby passes mot on wednesday!!!
Well that means you get another one of these. :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 08:32:55 PM
Post by: boosted on October 11, 2019, 08:32:55 PM
Cool.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 13, 2019, 04:15:38 PM
Post by: clive on October 13, 2019, 04:15:38 PM
Changed the brake pads for a different material as these lasted two events and I realised I could not have done even one more lap with the rears as they were a fag paper thick!
I recon the next lap would have meant no rear brakes, just fronts and probably locked up and gone straight on at the hairpin.
Ironically, I was told after the race that had I crossed the line a split second earlier that I would have have had to do another lap. In other words had I not lifted off due to the accident the race would have needed to do another lap.
These are the fronts with loads of meat left----not!!
I recon the next lap would have meant no rear brakes, just fronts and probably locked up and gone straight on at the hairpin.
Ironically, I was told after the race that had I crossed the line a split second earlier that I would have have had to do another lap. In other words had I not lifted off due to the accident the race would have needed to do another lap.
These are the fronts with loads of meat left----not!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
I cant come Clive...business need got some big maintenance work on at work thats on for our shift this weekend. Companys been good to me so take it on the chin.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 15, 2019, 08:45:19 PM
Post by: clive on October 15, 2019, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 15, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
I cant come Clive...business need got some big maintenance work on at work thats on for our shift this weekend. Companys been good to me so take it on the chin.
:(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Manic here atmo....i didnt ask for hols....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2019, 06:31:40 PM
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2019, 06:31:40 PM
Even if i did get hols big mot fail on my scooby boohoo...got the horseshoe off..its rather rusty. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/0054444009717bdf5052984e9752013e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:11:58 AM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:11:58 AM
Good luck for Today!!!
Double win!!!
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Double win!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
I missed quali...at work....
Dont look good from tsl times any info?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 20, 2019, 12:00:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 20, 2019, 12:00:55 PM
4th from the back, track very wet, changed his tyres for the first race, think pads have changed too.
We’re track side near the first bend waiting for the action
Watching the civic race at mo
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We’re track side near the first bend waiting for the action
Watching the civic race at mo
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 20, 2019, 12:04:22 PM
Post by: Casey on October 20, 2019, 12:04:22 PM
Yep, watching the civic race now too.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBRSCC
Then channels, alpha live, for anyone who wants to watch live!
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBRSCC
Then channels, alpha live, for anyone who wants to watch live!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 20, 2019, 12:29:19 PM
Post by: Casey on October 20, 2019, 12:29:19 PM
And they are away!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:32:16 PM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:32:16 PM
Bloody work...lieing in a pool of water covered in grease under a dirty stinky prawn machine..yuk.
I heard pit lane start..then 2nd place then sn oppsie!! Maybe back marker..
Any info?
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I heard pit lane start..then 2nd place then sn oppsie!! Maybe back marker..
Any info?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 20, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 20, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
Such a shame, Clive went from Pitlane start (last) to second and appears to have lost grip under braking on the last corner trying to take the lead. He appears to be ok.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Thanks..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on October 20, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
Post by: jinx on October 20, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
In like a lamb out like a lion. Bravissimo!!!
Good stuff watching you carve up through the field....only to have the jaws of victory snap shut on the last obstacle! :sign0098:
Good stuff watching you carve up through the field....only to have the jaws of victory snap shut on the last obstacle! :sign0098:
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Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Looking forward to onboard vids.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 20, 2019, 07:24:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 20, 2019, 07:24:08 PM
Well despite dithering in the cold and drizzle, heading back to the car after the commentary said Clive wasn't racing, little did we know he was frantically prepping the car.
Some superb racing from the pit lane working his way through, headlights glaring down the start finish straight from all .....then Clive illuminating the track further with 2 foot flames shooting out the back coming into Redgate.
Thoroughly enjoyed :icon_thumleft:
Still up in the air about final result and if the red flag went up before the spin. Hope dnf gets overturned
Some superb racing from the pit lane working his way through, headlights glaring down the start finish straight from all .....then Clive illuminating the track further with 2 foot flames shooting out the back coming into Redgate.
Thoroughly enjoyed :icon_thumleft:
Still up in the air about final result and if the red flag went up before the spin. Hope dnf gets overturned
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Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 07:37:20 PM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2019, 07:37:20 PM
Sounds epic...looked good the 1 lap i managed to see.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2019, 08:31:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2019, 08:31:17 PM
That’s a very good climb through the field . Hope you and car is ok
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 20, 2019, 10:14:41 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 20, 2019, 10:14:41 PM
Well done to Clive for getting the fastest laps in both races. I am sure if he didn't spin on oil on the last lap he would have won the second race given his pace.
At least they got his name up on the caption for the fastest lap :)
At least they got his name up on the caption for the fastest lap :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 20, 2019, 11:48:40 PM
Post by: clive on October 20, 2019, 11:48:40 PM
Many thanks for the comments, they are appreciated.
Very very mixed day, but hopefully it kept Jamie amused on a bitterly cold day ;D ;D
First up, must mend the screen so the heated element works again as it took ages to get the screen so I could see to go out for qualifying.
Once out there the damp track was evil on my dry tyres and even with a quarter throttle, it just lit the tyres up, plus coupled with the fronts locking every time I went near the brake pedal meant my grid position was pants !
I was trying a new pad compound and couldn't get the compound for the rears I really wanted , so the brake balance was no good.
I then fitted an old set of pads which made things a little better in the first race, yes I went from 24th to 7th and set fastest lap but because of the brakes it nobbled me and I wasn't a happy bunny :(
Everyone had left the pits and I just finished put Hans Device and crash helmet on and down it poured !
Lisa thought I was crazy to panic changing my tyres to wets but as I said "I would rather not make the race than just ride around at the back like in qualifying"
As you know, this left me starting from the pit lane joining only once all the cars had gone by.
Immediately I knew this was the correct choice and had an amazing amount of grip to be able to climb through the field, had one lucky escape when a car spun as I got to it out of Mcleans and so to the last lap and with the leader within reach, coming up to Coppice, as the in car will show, I was being cautious as I didnt want to get up under him and maybe have the back step out and collect him.
This let him move across down the Dunlop straight down into the Fogarty esses , It will be interesting to see the in car as was only a few feet to the left than normal with the intention of undercutting him to out drag him to the line out of the essses.
To have come that far though the field, there was no way I was going to willingly settle for second :angry5:
I had been braking very gently into the esses all the race but this time, literally the instant I went near the pedal the car violently swopped ends with no hope of control.
Getting out the car, I then remembered that Carl Hayward said a Civic had dropped oil there in practice, the four marshals quickly confirmed that yes there was oil down where I spun, shame there wasn’t at least a static slippery flag out at that point, but it is what it is.
I wasn’t happy after the first race but, gravel trap aside, I think this turned out to be my most enjoyable and satisfying race on the year.
I have since contemplated , should I have just tucked in behind him and settled for second ?, but after coming through the entire field then settling for second, it would have felt the same as sitting in the gravel trap anyway !!!!
Very very mixed day, but hopefully it kept Jamie amused on a bitterly cold day ;D ;D
First up, must mend the screen so the heated element works again as it took ages to get the screen so I could see to go out for qualifying.
Once out there the damp track was evil on my dry tyres and even with a quarter throttle, it just lit the tyres up, plus coupled with the fronts locking every time I went near the brake pedal meant my grid position was pants !
I was trying a new pad compound and couldn't get the compound for the rears I really wanted , so the brake balance was no good.
I then fitted an old set of pads which made things a little better in the first race, yes I went from 24th to 7th and set fastest lap but because of the brakes it nobbled me and I wasn't a happy bunny :(
Everyone had left the pits and I just finished put Hans Device and crash helmet on and down it poured !
Lisa thought I was crazy to panic changing my tyres to wets but as I said "I would rather not make the race than just ride around at the back like in qualifying"
As you know, this left me starting from the pit lane joining only once all the cars had gone by.
Immediately I knew this was the correct choice and had an amazing amount of grip to be able to climb through the field, had one lucky escape when a car spun as I got to it out of Mcleans and so to the last lap and with the leader within reach, coming up to Coppice, as the in car will show, I was being cautious as I didnt want to get up under him and maybe have the back step out and collect him.
This let him move across down the Dunlop straight down into the Fogarty esses , It will be interesting to see the in car as was only a few feet to the left than normal with the intention of undercutting him to out drag him to the line out of the essses.
To have come that far though the field, there was no way I was going to willingly settle for second :angry5:
I had been braking very gently into the esses all the race but this time, literally the instant I went near the pedal the car violently swopped ends with no hope of control.
Getting out the car, I then remembered that Carl Hayward said a Civic had dropped oil there in practice, the four marshals quickly confirmed that yes there was oil down where I spun, shame there wasn’t at least a static slippery flag out at that point, but it is what it is.
I wasn’t happy after the first race but, gravel trap aside, I think this turned out to be my most enjoyable and satisfying race on the year.
I have since contemplated , should I have just tucked in behind him and settled for second ?, but after coming through the entire field then settling for second, it would have felt the same as sitting in the gravel trap anyway !!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 07:27:35 AM
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 07:27:35 AM
couldnt find a way to watch the 2 races that were streamed live? any ideas? :sign0085:
Clive, good job not the results you were looking but sounded like you had epic fun. looks like only splitter damage?
did you get the flashy shift light in and if so did it help with the upshifts?
Clive, good job not the results you were looking but sounded like you had epic fun. looks like only splitter damage?
did you get the flashy shift light in and if so did it help with the upshifts?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 21, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 21, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
a thought goes out to another driver in the race "Mycock"......... lets hope his first name isn't Pat....
.....could be awkward during an interview ....
.....could be awkward during an interview ....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 08:40:14 AM
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 08:40:14 AM
Or Malik...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 21, 2019, 09:30:53 AM
Post by: Prototype on October 21, 2019, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 21, 2019, 07:27:35 AM
couldnt find a way to watch the 2 races that were streamed live? any ideas? :sign0085:
Clive, good job not the results you were looking but sounded like you had epic fun. looks like only splitter damage?
did you get the flashy shift light in and if so did it help with the upshifts?
Yes John you needed to be on either the BRSCC facebook page or the Alpha Live website which was accessible from the BRSCC Youtube page.
You can watch the two races that were streamed live here.
Race 1 https://youtu.be/5psZXoTWXCQ?t=2h54m41s
Race 2 https://youtu.be/qcG2L-g6D8A?t=1h21m24s
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 10:01:38 AM
Post by: boosted on October 21, 2019, 10:01:38 AM
Sweet...thanks.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 21, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 21, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
nice one
i was hunting for the same vids.
I wasnt sure what to expect having never seen the track in person before, but sitting at redgate, the overall track looked smaller than what i imagined in my head.
That said, leading up to the old hairpin, the bends look vastly different sitting at redgate than when you see them stood from the infield.
Im sure when sitting in the car, Donington seems huge, my boss said this morning its a big track as hes done lots of bike track days there.
When the Russian cargo plane took off from East midlands airport as the cars went round, i bet that was unnerving. It was HUGE! looked like a scene from independence day.
Great day tho, I enjoyed the hot bath when i got home lol
i was hunting for the same vids.
I wasnt sure what to expect having never seen the track in person before, but sitting at redgate, the overall track looked smaller than what i imagined in my head.
That said, leading up to the old hairpin, the bends look vastly different sitting at redgate than when you see them stood from the infield.
Im sure when sitting in the car, Donington seems huge, my boss said this morning its a big track as hes done lots of bike track days there.
When the Russian cargo plane took off from East midlands airport as the cars went round, i bet that was unnerving. It was HUGE! looked like a scene from independence day.
Great day tho, I enjoyed the hot bath when i got home lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 21, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
Post by: Casey on October 21, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
I watched both races live :)
That 2nd race was so exciting to watch, with Clive moving through the field form a pitlane start to 2nd place in such a short race.
It's a shame another car rolled into the gravel just as Clive was on that final lap and went off, as the live cameras were focused on the rolled car and missed Clive's incident until it was all over :(
Glad you are looking on the bright side of that 2nd race Clive, it was one hell of an achievement to get to 2nd and I can understand why, given the whiff of a chance to pass on the last lap and win, you took that opportunity. Pity it didn't work out, but that's racing for you! I hope the damage to your car is minimal and easily fixed
Very much looking forward to the in-car video of 2nd race :icon_thumleft:
That 2nd race was so exciting to watch, with Clive moving through the field form a pitlane start to 2nd place in such a short race.
It's a shame another car rolled into the gravel just as Clive was on that final lap and went off, as the live cameras were focused on the rolled car and missed Clive's incident until it was all over :(
Glad you are looking on the bright side of that 2nd race Clive, it was one hell of an achievement to get to 2nd and I can understand why, given the whiff of a chance to pass on the last lap and win, you took that opportunity. Pity it didn't work out, but that's racing for you! I hope the damage to your car is minimal and easily fixed
Very much looking forward to the in-car video of 2nd race :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 23, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 23, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
Here is the In Car footage cut in with the TV feed from Clive's amazing last to Second Place. Watch Rich Hockley sideways almost join Clive in the gravel :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRQpZ8XbSgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRQpZ8XbSgg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
great bit of video editing :icon_thumleft:
I had a little chuckle on lap one..... Clive like ah Ill just coast round, adjust my rear view mirror , i'm bored now, ill just annihilate this white Hyundai
Last lap spin, didnt look like you instigated any turn on the wheel to cause the spin, cant tell if it was brakes, oil or both.
Such a shame it didnt come together. Sterling effort!
I had a little chuckle on lap one..... Clive like ah Ill just coast round, adjust my rear view mirror , i'm bored now, ill just annihilate this white Hyundai
Last lap spin, didnt look like you instigated any turn on the wheel to cause the spin, cant tell if it was brakes, oil or both.
Such a shame it didnt come together. Sterling effort!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 23, 2019, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 23, 2019, 12:52:31 PM
I have just noticed Clive loses it on the downshift.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 01:22:02 PM
Huge thanks to Philips work putting this together, also, Wow, just seen at the end how lucky Rich Hockley's Civic was as well, at least with front wheel drive there's half a chance of getting out of a rear end break away, where as you have zero chance with a rear wheel drive car like mine!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Thanks for the comments and support , first did not finish (DNF) all season and 12 trophy's brought home, so not a bad season.
As you will see because the marshals were great and took so much care, all I have is a slightly bent splitter.
As you will see because the marshals were great and took so much care, all I have is a slightly bent splitter.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 23, 2019, 03:09:10 PM
Post by: boosted on October 23, 2019, 03:09:10 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on October 23, 2019, 11:51:24 PM
Post by: jinx on October 23, 2019, 11:51:24 PM
Quote from: clive on October 23, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
As you will see because the marshals were great and took so much care, all I have is a slightly bent splitter.
Last race of the day bonus?
Wet, cold, knackered, nothing left in the flask but this time there was nobody yelling at them to get it cleared fast to keep on schedule and no point rushing to join the queue for the exit! ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 10:09:25 AM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 10:09:25 AM
Excellent observation :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 24, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 24, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
Is that your AFR guage on the dash? Doesn't have vary from 9 to 15!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 24, 2019, 11:31:07 AM
Is that your AFR guage on the dash? Doesn't have vary from 9 to 15!
Not too worried about the AFR gauge these days, exhaust colour is perfect :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 03:13:03 PM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2019, 03:13:03 PM
Just a little reminder of how wet the track was on Sunday ;)
https://youtu.be/CbgGX6YsPOQ?t=906
https://youtu.be/CbgGX6YsPOQ?t=906
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 25, 2019, 07:50:23 AM
Post by: re japi on October 25, 2019, 07:50:23 AM
Clive, just curious, what kind of intake air temperatures you have on warm race days?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 25, 2019, 09:45:56 AM
Post by: clive on October 25, 2019, 09:45:56 AM
Never worried about intake temps as the big Apexi intercooler is still nice and cool immediately after a race, even on the hottest days we get.
At one stage for reference, I plumbed two boost gauges back into the cab, each side of the intercooler to see if there was any pressure drop.
Both readings were identical and this is why the intercooler stays nice and cool, because it flows correctly and as we all know unrestricted air will not generate heat. :great:
At one stage for reference, I plumbed two boost gauges back into the cab, each side of the intercooler to see if there was any pressure drop.
Both readings were identical and this is why the intercooler stays nice and cool, because it flows correctly and as we all know unrestricted air will not generate heat. :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
After my gardening exercise two weeks ago, this cheered me up to see our Track Attack Series with a write up and being included with such noteable events such as Bathhurst etc
www.classicandcompetitioncar.com
www.classicandcompetitioncar.com
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 04:43:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 05, 2019, 04:43:10 PM
Id say its just as exciting to watch your series as the Bathurst 1000
No reason it shouldnt be noted alongside a prestigious event.
Took me a while to get down to the Trak Attack section..... i got distracted by the vintage hill climb race cars at prescott and found myself dribbling onto my lap lol
Born in the wrong era I was...... That kind of racing harks back to the days of see-sawing the steering wheel..... I know a man who did that in a ford pop :great:
No reason it shouldnt be noted alongside a prestigious event.
Took me a while to get down to the Trak Attack section..... i got distracted by the vintage hill climb race cars at prescott and found myself dribbling onto my lap lol
Born in the wrong era I was...... That kind of racing harks back to the days of see-sawing the steering wheel..... I know a man who did that in a ford pop :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 06, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 06, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
I now have the last part of the jigsaw.
Coming out of Coppice I could have got under the leader but I risked taking him off, he then made one move to the right, which was fine so I decided to run down the out side to get a good run out of the Foggerty Esses and get him leading onto the straight.
Philip has diagnosed what happend and I was probably only a foot or two wider than I had been at times, BUT Philip worked out it was as I changed down to third that made the rear let go on oil ---------------- So pleased that the Civic that ran the same line behind, pulled out of it with his front wheel drive or we could have have two written of cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY_IJtCSwIg&feature=youtu.be
Coming out of Coppice I could have got under the leader but I risked taking him off, he then made one move to the right, which was fine so I decided to run down the out side to get a good run out of the Foggerty Esses and get him leading onto the straight.
Philip has diagnosed what happend and I was probably only a foot or two wider than I had been at times, BUT Philip worked out it was as I changed down to third that made the rear let go on oil ---------------- So pleased that the Civic that ran the same line behind, pulled out of it with his front wheel drive or we could have have two written of cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY_IJtCSwIg&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 11:33:59 AM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 11:33:59 AM
Looks like I brought home half of Donnington ::)
So lucky the fans didn't pick up stones and puncture the rad :great:.
Next outing will be the Brands Track day we do every year on the 6th of December.
This is going to be so I can set up the remote proportioning I have yet to fit and bed some new super aggressive Hawk DTC pads that I'm going to try all round.
So lucky the fans didn't pick up stones and puncture the rad :great:.
Next outing will be the Brands Track day we do every year on the 6th of December.
This is going to be so I can set up the remote proportioning I have yet to fit and bed some new super aggressive Hawk DTC pads that I'm going to try all round.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 11:39:02 AM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 11:39:02 AM
Doh..that reminfs me todo the little drawing for you...completely forgot.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
I’ve got the DTC on standard callipers and they are very good
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 01:35:31 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 10, 2019, 11:39:02 AM
Doh..that reminfs me todo the little drawing for you...completely forgot.
No worry's Jon. So whats the chance of coming out to play at Brands ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
I’ve got the DTC on standard callipers and they are very good
These are DTC 60's and I had to take them out after qually at Donnington as I didn't have the feel I needed.
I have the same compound coming for the rear to hopefully get the correct bias back , then on top of that I am going to fit a Wilwood Bias adjuster in the rear lines only ( BTW No Abs fitted any more, so its all done on my foot ;))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Whos it with Clive..ive another booked in 2 weeks at Combe..trying to make up for lost funtime.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 02:45:18 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from: clive on November 10, 2019, 01:42:02 PMYep that’s the ones , DTC 60’s all around they were brilliant . They do wear quite quick compared to other hawk compounds but much better . I changed then to using dtc on rear with 8 pots on front with yellow stuff which came with the callipers , first time at donington it felt weird to start . Almost like the rears were more aggressive than the front in damp conditions . On slower twistier circuits it was as if under hard braking into corners it would kind of sway the rear a bit helping through the corners .Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
I’ve got the DTC on standard callipers and they are very good
These are DTC 60's and I had to take them out after qually at Donnington as I didn't have the feel I needed.
I have the same compound coming for the rear to hopefully get the correct bias back , then on top of that I am going to fit a Wilwood Bias adjuster in the rear lines only ( BTW No Abs fitted any more, so its all done on my foot ;))
Well , that’s what I convinced myself into believing lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 03:08:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 03:08:12 PM
Thanks Wayne, this way I will have two sets of compounds on hand to change if need be depending on tracks
Jon https://www.mazdaontrack.co.uk/
Nick's number is 07818 003267 :great:
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Nick's number is 07818 003267 :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
Theres 2 spaces left...gonna wing it til after ive done this trackday "just in case".
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:29:39 PMI just seen that
Theres 2 spaces left...gonna wing it til after ive done this trackday "just in case".
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It’s just a pig of a place to get home from with Friday traffic ......
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
Took me an 2 hours to get home from Combe last week...stopped for a pint and then somebody pulled out in front of Brad and he t boned them...luckily a crowbar onboard and Brad was on his way in 20 mins
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
Here you go Clive.
Trigger for rpm...
2AD...White. front trailing coil.
Tag onto cable 100mm from plug at ecu.
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Trigger for rpm...
2AD...White. front trailing coil.
Tag onto cable 100mm from plug at ecu.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 04:51:18 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2019, 04:51:18 PM
Thanks Jon :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 04:58:43 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2019, 04:58:43 PM
Perfect to set it up at trackday .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 10, 2019, 05:55:46 PM
Post by: Casey on November 10, 2019, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 10, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
It’s just a pig of a place to get home from with Friday traffic ......
Most of stay afterwards for a Christmas meal at a nearby pub restaurant to avoid the Friday pm traffic rush, so getting home a bit later. The place we have used in recent years is already fully booked, so Nigel is looking for an alternative place nearby to book.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 23, 2019, 07:05:41 PM
Post by: clive on November 23, 2019, 07:05:41 PM
More down-force please sir :great:
Seeing the underside of a world touring car, it dawned on me that I could make the RX-8's under tray wider, so we now have a pair of strips 18cm X 100 cm either side of the sump, which as you can see gives a much greater area.
Before Brands, next up is the plumb the Wilwood proportioning valve into the rear line so I can balance the rear brake bias.
Seeing the underside of a world touring car, it dawned on me that I could make the RX-8's under tray wider, so we now have a pair of strips 18cm X 100 cm either side of the sump, which as you can see gives a much greater area.
Before Brands, next up is the plumb the Wilwood proportioning valve into the rear line so I can balance the rear brake bias.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 01, 2019, 09:17:48 PM
Post by: clive on December 01, 2019, 09:17:48 PM
Proud to say I upheld Rotary Honour in 2019 and last night I was presented with the trophy as a Track Attack Champion for the second year running.
Been a great year for the car producing these results below and best of all no real mechanical dramas with 46 races now on my excellent Rotary Engine, something a lot of big power piston racers would love to be able to say :great:
2019 highlights
10 class wins 2 Overall wins plus one 2nd and 3rd places overall
Plus 6 Fastest laps
Many thanks to all who supported me throughout the year. 👍
Been a great year for the car producing these results below and best of all no real mechanical dramas with 46 races now on my excellent Rotary Engine, something a lot of big power piston racers would love to be able to say :great:
2019 highlights
10 class wins 2 Overall wins plus one 2nd and 3rd places overall
Plus 6 Fastest laps
Many thanks to all who supported me throughout the year. 👍
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2019, 09:42:04 PM
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2019, 09:42:04 PM
Well done Champion!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 01, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 01, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Well done
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on December 02, 2019, 12:08:42 AM
Post by: Casey on December 02, 2019, 12:08:42 AM
Congrats Clive :sign0098:
Another good year, so glad to see this after you doggedly carried on through those early problem years!
Another good year, so glad to see this after you doggedly carried on through those early problem years!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2019, 05:37:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 02, 2019, 05:37:55 AM
A well deserved trophy.
I have a feeling next years competition will be biting at your heels even more but with no avail.
Gonna need a larger trophy cabinet I think lol
Everything crossed for 2020
I have a feeling next years competition will be biting at your heels even more but with no avail.
Gonna need a larger trophy cabinet I think lol
Everything crossed for 2020
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Clarky on December 04, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Post by: Clarky on December 04, 2019, 05:42:08 PM
Well done Clive, nice to see all your hard work and dedication has paid off.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 08:26:45 AM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 08:26:45 AM
Many thanks for the comments above, appreciated.
Off to Brands tomorrow mainly to bed new pads in plus set up the brake ballence front to rear. If all this works I should be able to brake later and deeper into corners, which is an area where the car has suffered.
looks like rain though, but I can test some better wet weather that I have put on the correct size 9.5" rims rather than the wrong size 8" rims.
"Hopefully" the track will be dry enough to stick drys on at some stage and see if I can feel any more downforce from the extra flat floor area under the front of the car.
Off to Brands tomorrow mainly to bed new pads in plus set up the brake ballence front to rear. If all this works I should be able to brake later and deeper into corners, which is an area where the car has suffered.
looks like rain though, but I can test some better wet weather that I have put on the correct size 9.5" rims rather than the wrong size 8" rims.
"Hopefully" the track will be dry enough to stick drys on at some stage and see if I can feel any more downforce from the extra flat floor area under the front of the car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 05, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 05, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2019, 08:26:45 AMI call shotgun!
Many thanks for the comments above, appreciated.
Off to Brands tomorrow mainly to bed new pads in plus set up the brake ballence front to rear. If all this works I should be able to brake later and deeper into corners, which is an area where the car has suffered.
looks like rain though, but I can test some better wet weather that I have put on the correct size 9.5" rims rather than the wrong size 8" rims.
"Hopefully" the track will be dry enough to stick drys on at some stage and see if I can feel any more downforce from the extra flat floor area under the front of the car.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
Sorry no passenger seat, but then would you really want to be in a race car with me ;D ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 05, 2019, 12:54:13 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on December 05, 2019, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2019, 12:47:03 PMI know there isn't... Just pulling your leg. I've watched a few of your videos so yes... I'll be happy to sit passenger.
Sorry no passenger seat, but then would you really want to be in a race car with me ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 01:50:10 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: therealbrad_wil on December 05, 2019, 12:54:13 PMQuote from: clive on December 05, 2019, 12:47:03 PMI know there isn't... Just pulling your leg. I've watched a few of your videos so yes... I'll be happy to sit passenger.
Sorry no passenger seat, but then would you really want to be in a race car with me ;D ;D
Seen the video's and you still would get in the car--------you fool, I wouldn't get in there with me :)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
I hate being a passenger...blimin scary having no control.
Have a good day tomoz Clive.
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Have a good day tomoz Clive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 05, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
I hate being a passenger...blimin scary having no control.
Have a good day tomoz Clive.
Same as you, don't do passenger very well.
Last time was years ago at Combe with Phil Collard in his Race RX-7, when he asked me to go with him to show him lines. I refused initially then realised that if he crashed I would feel guilty :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2019, 06:38:22 PM
Post by: boosted on December 05, 2019, 06:38:22 PM
Last track i did go out as passenger in neighbours bmw compact m3. He can drive but still holding on for dear life...Brad in his mx5 no way never again....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2019, 05:00:56 AM
Post by: re japi on December 06, 2019, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 05, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
I hate being a passenger...blimin scary having no control.
Have a good day tomoz Clive.
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EXACTLY!!!!! :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 05:06:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 05:06:37 AM
I enjoyed shotgun with Jon.
its like watching film with g force added lol.
Made it nicer overtaking everyone and feeling the back end putting up a fight against his right foot.
The only downside was my muffin tops are too wide for his mother are booster seat replica.
I remember climbing in thinking ow, ow, ow.
its like watching film with g force added lol.
Made it nicer overtaking everyone and feeling the back end putting up a fight against his right foot.
The only downside was my muffin tops are too wide for his mother are booster seat replica.
I remember climbing in thinking ow, ow, ow.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:28:55 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:28:55 AM
Meant to say mothercare.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 07:34:14 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 07:34:14 AM
There a squeeze. In the 7 but thats what you need.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:37:21 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:37:21 AM
Not knocking ya seats bud, I’m just fat lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 07:40:42 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 07:40:42 AM
I know..they came with the car...lucky fit me spot on...the civic car with x2 new wide cobra buckets...i was just moving about to much so stuck an old sparco circuit pro in the drivers side. Seat choice and placement is paramount in a track/ race car. Nice n snug but comfortable.ish.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:53:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 07:53:12 AM
Lots of padding in my kirkeys then .... then again Emma comes with hers built in lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
Took ages to get right in westy..3 weekends to get the grp shell seat right...took an angle grinder to it shaving bits off here and there notches for the harness buckles too. Very tight to get it in and me comfy.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 08:23:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 08:23:20 AM
One of the benefits of trying to get it road legal, as you can faff about before getting to the track.
Think the rotus project will be ongoing even when it’s finished
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:29:36 AM
In my experince the projects are ever evolving and never finished lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 10:38:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 06, 2019, 10:38:53 AM
It may never get finished if I’m tackling the wiring, I would get more success by sending messages to the ecu with a bloody carrier pigeon !!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 06, 2019, 08:17:29 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2019, 08:17:29 PM
Good productive day today, spent half an hour romping around it the rain and now have the pads bedded in and I have the bias valve adjusted where it felt right, so hopefully I can out brake some of the lighter cars next season.
After Christmas, next on the list will be a change of Diff Ratio from a 4.1 to a 4.3, as I feel the car lacks initial acceleration from when the 4.4 was in that was too low, then welding in gussets to make the bolt in cage give the shell more rigidity.
After Christmas, next on the list will be a change of Diff Ratio from a 4.1 to a 4.3, as I feel the car lacks initial acceleration from when the 4.4 was in that was too low, then welding in gussets to make the bolt in cage give the shell more rigidity.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
Post by: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
Cool. Good day..any vids?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 06, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
Post by: clive on December 06, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 06, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
Cool. Good day..any vids?
It was so wet and horrible and knew most of the time I would be just messing about with the brakes, I didn't bother putting the cameras in the car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on December 07, 2019, 09:48:25 AM
Post by: rote8 on December 07, 2019, 09:48:25 AM
Good to see you and the car yesterday. :13: Car looked, sounded and performed great and glad you achieved what you set out to do. :13: Watch this space for next years installment of rotary goodness. ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 07, 2019, 10:58:13 AM
Post by: clive on December 07, 2019, 10:58:13 AM
Thanks Ray, good to see you out there having fun :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2019, 11:04:43 AM
Post by: boosted on December 07, 2019, 11:04:43 AM
Did you get the shift light set up? Lol think i already know the answer...i can do at Combe for you if you didnt get chance.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 15, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Post by: clive on December 15, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Got all my dates through and it looks like its going to be a busy season in 2020
Track Attack / Thunder Saloon Dates
April 10th/11th Donington Thunder Saloon
April 13 Oulton Park [Supporting British Gt Championship ] Track Attack
May 25th Mallory Thunder Saloon
June 14 Mallory Park Track Attack
July 4 Snetterton [club BBQ] Track Attack
Aug 1 Castle Combe Track Attack
Sep 12 Brands Hatch Track Attack
September 19th/20th Snetterton Thunder Saloon
October 10th/11th Silverstone Int Thunder Saloon
Oct 24 Donington Track Attack
Track Attack / Thunder Saloon Dates
April 10th/11th Donington Thunder Saloon
April 13 Oulton Park [Supporting British Gt Championship ] Track Attack
May 25th Mallory Thunder Saloon
June 14 Mallory Park Track Attack
July 4 Snetterton [club BBQ] Track Attack
Aug 1 Castle Combe Track Attack
Sep 12 Brands Hatch Track Attack
September 19th/20th Snetterton Thunder Saloon
October 10th/11th Silverstone Int Thunder Saloon
Oct 24 Donington Track Attack
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 11:58:24 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 11:58:24 AM
2/3rd of the way through this and just realised if you hold your finger on the post number you can easily scroll back to last post number rather than using the arrows and going ten at a time . Crikey , I’d be finished by now . Silly me ha ha
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 28, 2019, 02:38:16 PM
Post by: clive on December 28, 2019, 02:38:16 PM
Thanks for reading Wayne, that should have cured your insomnia :D :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 03:32:39 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 03:32:39 PM
Lol Wayne got me reading from beginning again...got to post 112 ..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 03:53:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 28, 2019, 03:32:39 PMHa ha that’ll
Lol Wayne got me reading from beginning again...got to post 112 ..
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Be about 50 mins reading then
20 mins on treadmill every morning see’s me read about 40-50 posts
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:10:56 PM
Looks like reading abit more...mrs beat me to remote...some musical lovie dovie shite...
I was gearing up for the Witcher...
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I was gearing up for the Witcher...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:14:01 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:14:01 PM
Whats really peed me off is she watched the crap b4...she swears blind she hasnt i remember it...thinking id turn this shite off....and shes on her phone not watching it...raaa im gonna explode.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 28, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
Count ya self lucky I’m in Tesco in Newtown
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 04:57:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 28, 2019, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:14:01 PMGet in the garage
Whats really peed me off is she watched the crap b4...she swears blind she hasnt i remember it...thinking id turn this shite off....and shes on her phone not watching it...raaa im gonna explode.
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Surely something to do
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
Post by: boosted on December 28, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
I wish!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 12:34:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 12:34:51 PM
Finished my read . Fair play Clive I never realised the troubles you went through in the first two years to get it where it is now .
I guess perseverance is the key
Right , who’s selling a 13b REW kit
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Right , who’s selling a 13b REW kit
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 12:48:52 PM
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 12:48:52 PM
Do it Wayne!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 04, 2020, 12:48:52 PMI will, just at a smaller budget to Clive’s and less bhp . Should be more reliable than a Greddy kit rx8
Do it Wayne!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 02:25:07 PM
Post by: boosted on January 04, 2020, 02:25:07 PM
Yep...just finding an engine ......
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 04, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Post by: clive on January 04, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 12:34:51 PM
Finished my read . Fair play Clive I never realised the troubles you went through in the first two years to get it where it is now .
I guess perseverance is the key
Right , who’s selling a 13b REW kit
Many thanks Wayne.
I always know I could make the car a winner and was determined not to give up and let the Rotary world down and as the first to complete the task keeping all the RX-8 chassis stuff working, it was a challenge to my sanity and my pocket, I even had the series promoter taking the mick at times over the cars reliability till I jokingly said I was going to another series.
Bit different now as he wants to keep the car in the series because as he says, the spectators and commentators love the car. :)) :))
It was not just dogged determination, it was also many people around me that played a big part in making it reliable with Jon on here and Pip at WGT and Steve who you will see mentioned all playing a big part in helping. :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 05:36:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: clive on January 04, 2020, 05:01:53 PMThat’s right Clive , I had followed it a bit over the last 18 months but was unaware of the problems you had at the start , really frustrating . Yes , much help and advice from the right people at the right times I guess .Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 04, 2020, 12:34:51 PM
Finished my read . Fair play Clive I never realised the troubles you went through in the first two years to get it where it is now .
I guess perseverance is the key
Right , who’s selling a 13b REW kit
Many thanks Wayne.
I always know I could make the car a winner and was determined not to give up and let the Rotary world down and as the first to complete the task keeping all the RX-8 chassis stuff working, it was a challenge to my sanity and my pocket, I even had the series promoter taking the mick at times over the cars reliability till I jokingly said I was going to another series.
Bit different now as he wants to keep the car in the series because as he says, the spectators and commentators love the car. :)) :))
It was not just dogged determination, it was also many people around me that played a big part in making it reliable with Jon on here and Pip at WGT and Steve who you will see mentioned all playing a big part in helping. :great:
I’m a bit gutted as I had the opportunity to get a rew conversion kit 3 years back but opted for the Greddy , I was told the rew was a Money pit . Hindsight eh .....
The Greddy has been a similar situation ( money pit ) which until I get it to pip still is t running right .
A good learning curve nevertheless .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 23, 2020, 08:11:52 PM
Post by: clive on January 23, 2020, 08:11:52 PM
Received my new slick tyres today, well new to me.
These 10" wide soft Yokohama's were allegedly used in Macau on Rob Huffs World Touring Car Cup car. They do look very new and still have good meat on them, all six for £170 delivered has got to be a result and even more of a result if the car goes faster ;)
Getting them changed onto my rims in readiness for the Brands Press / Test day.
Hopefully these tyres will help the car in the odd Thunder Saloon or All Comers events this year.
But Track Attack is still my main series.
My set of Extreme (road/track day tyres) that found me lots of time will be up for sale soon, as I am going for very soft compound for this season because as my downforce is going up, the car is becoming kinder and kinder to its tyres :great:.
These 10" wide soft Yokohama's were allegedly used in Macau on Rob Huffs World Touring Car Cup car. They do look very new and still have good meat on them, all six for £170 delivered has got to be a result and even more of a result if the car goes faster ;)
Getting them changed onto my rims in readiness for the Brands Press / Test day.
Hopefully these tyres will help the car in the odd Thunder Saloon or All Comers events this year.
But Track Attack is still my main series.
My set of Extreme (road/track day tyres) that found me lots of time will be up for sale soon, as I am going for very soft compound for this season because as my downforce is going up, the car is becoming kinder and kinder to its tyres :great:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2020, 04:41:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2020, 04:41:33 PM
I always thought that if your aero gave more down force etc then it would be harder on the tyres?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 27, 2020, 05:01:16 PM
Post by: boosted on January 27, 2020, 05:01:16 PM
Me 2 but too frightened to ask lol...
Down force is like adding weight yeah?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2020, 06:07:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2020, 06:07:29 PM
Maybe the tyres arnt spinning as much with more aero?????? ..... big bhp going tgroughthe back
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 27, 2020, 08:52:19 PM
Post by: clive on January 27, 2020, 08:52:19 PM
If your spining or sliding tyres through corners then they will get hotter, so because more downforce helps both of these aspects the car with the extra grip downforce provides the car becomes kinder on its tyres.
Either that or I'm just driving the car way too slow ???.
Always learning, last year I found the outside tread area was going blue, I asked a friend who was invited along to a Tyre test with Hankook using a DTM car and from this he learned that being too aggressive on the warm up laps heats the top layer of the tyre too quick and turns the rubber blue!.
I had to do this with the Toyo's to find heat to get them to work but not with the Extreme tyres, even the hard compound ones.
I did get a bit more serious last year and was taking not only pressures but also Tyre Temperatures.
I will be buying some super soft Extreme tyres for Track Attack, against Extreme's recomendation but as I said to them, I am only 2-3 degrees over their recomendation.
To start with I will run mediums up the the outside and softs up the inside and see what I get, however for the Brands test/ Media day I am going to run the new slicks ;)
Either that or I'm just driving the car way too slow ???.
Always learning, last year I found the outside tread area was going blue, I asked a friend who was invited along to a Tyre test with Hankook using a DTM car and from this he learned that being too aggressive on the warm up laps heats the top layer of the tyre too quick and turns the rubber blue!.
I had to do this with the Toyo's to find heat to get them to work but not with the Extreme tyres, even the hard compound ones.
I did get a bit more serious last year and was taking not only pressures but also Tyre Temperatures.
I will be buying some super soft Extreme tyres for Track Attack, against Extreme's recomendation but as I said to them, I am only 2-3 degrees over their recomendation.
To start with I will run mediums up the the outside and softs up the inside and see what I get, however for the Brands test/ Media day I am going to run the new slicks ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2020, 10:08:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 27, 2020, 10:08:58 PM
Reminds me of Gary McCoy in the latter days on the 500cc two stroke Moto go era on the yzr Yamaha. He went everywhere side wards and his tyres went blue/purple.
Claimed it only “cooked†the surface with no detrimental affect to the carcass
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 27, 2020, 10:31:41 PM
Post by: clive on January 27, 2020, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 27, 2020, 10:08:58 PM
Reminds me of Gary McCoy in the latter days on the 500cc two stroke Moto go era on the yzr Yamaha. He went everywhere side wards and his tyres went blue/purple.
Claimed it only “cooked†the surface with no detrimental affect to the carcass
Yes that's it, but from what my mate told me, it means the tyre hasn't got proper heat through the tyre fully. I stopped being quite so aggressive after finding that out and found no grip difference on the first couple of laps.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
Clive I remember looking at your turbo manifold and it had reducers from the main pipe into the turbo T4 flange, do you know where they came from? I need a couple for my manifold
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on January 31, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on January 31, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
I have found that if I haven't gotten my tyres warm before I ragged them they turned purple/ blue and they didn't wear well, but never noticed grip level difference not that I could.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 31, 2020, 08:32:49 PM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2020, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
Clive I remember looking at your turbo manifold and it had reducers from the main pipe into the turbo T4 flange, do you know where they came from? I need a couple for my manifold
Give AET Turbo a ring on 01924 894171, I think they will be able to help.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 31, 2020, 08:34:15 PM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2020, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on January 31, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
I have found that if I haven't gotten my tyres warm before I ragged them they turned purple/ blue and they didn't wear well, but never noticed grip level difference not that I could.
A driver of your calibre will notice ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 03, 2020, 10:24:44 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 03, 2020, 10:24:44 PM
MSVR Season Launch Day Brands Hatch
Good luck this year Clive.
Philip
Good luck this year Clive.
Philip
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 05, 2020, 08:56:02 PM
Post by: boosted on March 05, 2020, 08:56:02 PM
You got race dates yet mate?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 05, 2020, 09:17:26 PM
Post by: clive on March 05, 2020, 09:17:26 PM
Track Attack / Thunder Saloon Dates
April 13 Oulton Park [Supporting British Gt Championship ] Track Attack
May 25th Mallory Thunder Saloon
June 14 Mallory Park Track Attack
Aug 1 Castle Combe Track Attack
Sep 12 Brands Hatch Track Attack
September 19th/20th Snetterton Thunder Saloon
October 10th/11th Silverstone Int Thunder Saloon
Oct 24 Donington Track Attack
April 13 Oulton Park [Supporting British Gt Championship ] Track Attack
May 25th Mallory Thunder Saloon
June 14 Mallory Park Track Attack
Aug 1 Castle Combe Track Attack
Sep 12 Brands Hatch Track Attack
September 19th/20th Snetterton Thunder Saloon
October 10th/11th Silverstone Int Thunder Saloon
Oct 24 Donington Track Attack
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 10:44:17 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 10:44:17 AM
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Clive they have your trainers !
I had to buy some, retail outlet store bargains
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Clive they have your trainers !
I had to buy some, retail outlet store bargains
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
They’re narrow too so they will pass for driving boots on track days lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 15, 2020, 08:02:41 PM
Post by: clive on March 15, 2020, 08:02:41 PM
Only good bit of good news I've heard for a while ;)
Well providing I dont get tom and dick myself (or Lisa) it looks like I will be racing at Oulton on April the 13th with the latest info coming out of the Track Attack club, the MSV and the Motorsport UK :great:
Here's a few extracts.
Physical social contact should be avoided. Do not shake hands. No offence is taken should the community elect not to physically greet one another
Any briefings that take place should be conducted in an external environment or well-ventilated, spacious indoor facility
Personal Protective Equipment will not be closely examined by Event Officials unless the equipment is visibly defective.
No vehicle safety examinations will take place where contact with the vehicle is required, except where a safety defect is observed.
The view is that it is unlikely that there will be any form of government requirement to suspend club racing, given the small spectator numbers. This has been supported by government statements that there is no need to postpone or cancel open air sporting events as things stand, with evidence suggesting that they are not a major contributory factor in the spread of viruses.
Well providing I dont get tom and dick myself (or Lisa) it looks like I will be racing at Oulton on April the 13th with the latest info coming out of the Track Attack club, the MSV and the Motorsport UK :great:
Here's a few extracts.
Physical social contact should be avoided. Do not shake hands. No offence is taken should the community elect not to physically greet one another
Any briefings that take place should be conducted in an external environment or well-ventilated, spacious indoor facility
Personal Protective Equipment will not be closely examined by Event Officials unless the equipment is visibly defective.
No vehicle safety examinations will take place where contact with the vehicle is required, except where a safety defect is observed.
The view is that it is unlikely that there will be any form of government requirement to suspend club racing, given the small spectator numbers. This has been supported by government statements that there is no need to postpone or cancel open air sporting events as things stand, with evidence suggesting that they are not a major contributory factor in the spread of viruses.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 08:59:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 08:59:46 PM
Good news so far
Hopefully it won’t change
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
Post by: Casey on March 17, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
Oh dear, Paul Roddison just posted this up on Facebook:
Motorsport UK COVID-19 Update
It is with regret that Motorsport UK is suspending all organising permits and Certificates of Exemption until at least 30th April 2020. This suspension follows the latest guidance issued by HM UK Government in response to the outbreak of COVID-19. This position will be constantly reviewed given prevailing information.
As the National Governing Body, we would ask all Motorsport UK members to act responsibly and follow the Government’s guidance during this difficult time.
We thank all of our members, organisers, officials, volunteers, staff and their families for their support during these unprecedented times. We will continue to monitor the situation and will resume sporting activity as soon as we are able. We also have a responsibility and duty of care to our staff who will be working from home, so please be patient with any queries you may have.
David Richards, chairman of Motorsport UK, explained, “Clearly we live in challenging times and exceptional measures are required. The decision to suspend Motorsport UK permits on a temporary basis is not one that was taken lightly as the industry employs many thousands of people. However we have an over-riding responsibility to our members and the friends and families of our community. Furthermore, our social responsibilities extend to the broader population and the potential drain on valuable public health resources on which we are all reliant.
“The situation is very fluid and we will continue to monitor developments over the coming weeks and hope that we can resume the annual motorsport calendar at the opportune moment. In the immediate short term our efforts need to be focused on ensuring that the industry that backs up the sport has the financial support that it requires from the Government in order that it can be sustained beyond this extraordinary scenario.â€
https://www.motorsportuk.org/motorsport-uk-covid-19-update/ (https://www.motorsportuk.org/motorsport-uk-covid-19-update/)
Motorsport UK COVID-19 Update
It is with regret that Motorsport UK is suspending all organising permits and Certificates of Exemption until at least 30th April 2020. This suspension follows the latest guidance issued by HM UK Government in response to the outbreak of COVID-19. This position will be constantly reviewed given prevailing information.
As the National Governing Body, we would ask all Motorsport UK members to act responsibly and follow the Government’s guidance during this difficult time.
We thank all of our members, organisers, officials, volunteers, staff and their families for their support during these unprecedented times. We will continue to monitor the situation and will resume sporting activity as soon as we are able. We also have a responsibility and duty of care to our staff who will be working from home, so please be patient with any queries you may have.
David Richards, chairman of Motorsport UK, explained, “Clearly we live in challenging times and exceptional measures are required. The decision to suspend Motorsport UK permits on a temporary basis is not one that was taken lightly as the industry employs many thousands of people. However we have an over-riding responsibility to our members and the friends and families of our community. Furthermore, our social responsibilities extend to the broader population and the potential drain on valuable public health resources on which we are all reliant.
“The situation is very fluid and we will continue to monitor developments over the coming weeks and hope that we can resume the annual motorsport calendar at the opportune moment. In the immediate short term our efforts need to be focused on ensuring that the industry that backs up the sport has the financial support that it requires from the Government in order that it can be sustained beyond this extraordinary scenario.â€
https://www.motorsportuk.org/motorsport-uk-covid-19-update/ (https://www.motorsportuk.org/motorsport-uk-covid-19-update/)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 24, 2020, 03:35:02 PM
Post by: clive on March 24, 2020, 03:35:02 PM
Just been updated that ALL UK motorsport has been suspended until at least the end of June
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 02:18:44 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 02:18:44 PM
Digging through pictures (yep getting bored) and I found some of the car to log on the thread.
Famous start finish line at Goodwood a couple of years ago, a flame out from Brands, another from Brands and lastly chasing that pesky Cleo, which I did at Mallory last year.
Famous start finish line at Goodwood a couple of years ago, a flame out from Brands, another from Brands and lastly chasing that pesky Cleo, which I did at Mallory last year.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
Stumbled across this write up I hadn't seen, so I will post is as part of the history of the race car :)
https://brscc.co.uk/mallory-park-sees-brscc-action-on-september-return/
https://brscc.co.uk/mallory-park-sees-brscc-action-on-september-return/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 04:14:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 02, 2020, 04:14:32 AM
Hmm ok I thought there was no contact ?
Very odd
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
Looks like I "may" have a 2020 fixture list
SNETERTON JULY 4
CASTLE COMBE AUGUST 1
BRANDS HATCH SEPTEMBER 12
DONNINGTON PARK OCTOBER 24
RE-ARRANGED FIXTURE NOVEMBER [I HOPE]
SNETERTON JULY 4
CASTLE COMBE AUGUST 1
BRANDS HATCH SEPTEMBER 12
DONNINGTON PARK OCTOBER 24
RE-ARRANGED FIXTURE NOVEMBER [I HOPE]
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 17, 2020, 05:22:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 17, 2020, 05:22:15 PM
Donnington on my birthday woop
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
I assume these will no spectator events Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:39:30 PM
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:39:30 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 17, 2020, 05:22:15 PM
Donnington on my birthday woop
:whoo:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:40:58 PM
Post by: clive on May 17, 2020, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
I assume these will no spectator events Clive ?
Maybe spectators will be allowed.
Before the lock down it looked ok for spectators as we dont get that many.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 30, 2020, 09:04:35 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2020, 09:04:35 PM
Well I have finally started to get the car ready to hopefully race on the 4th July.
As some of you know I have suffered with excessive heat during races, so I have now made an addition. I now have a fresh air pipe that comes in from the nose runs up the passenger side then up under the steering column.
Next I will have a Naca duct snorkel that’s going into the drivers window, rather than the tube I was running through the window.
My new super soft Extreme 265/35 tyres also turned up this week, after trying first the hard version, then the medium. Tyre temperatures on the mediums suggest they should “live†the duration of a race distance.
(p.s. a good set of Hard compound will now be for sale, perfect for tack days, these were 5 seconds a lap faster than R888R's round Snett )
As some of you know I have suffered with excessive heat during races, so I have now made an addition. I now have a fresh air pipe that comes in from the nose runs up the passenger side then up under the steering column.
Next I will have a Naca duct snorkel that’s going into the drivers window, rather than the tube I was running through the window.
My new super soft Extreme 265/35 tyres also turned up this week, after trying first the hard version, then the medium. Tyre temperatures on the mediums suggest they should “live†the duration of a race distance.
(p.s. a good set of Hard compound will now be for sale, perfect for tack days, these were 5 seconds a lap faster than R888R's round Snett )
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
How much captain Clive ?
Depending on size ??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 30, 2020, 10:21:00 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2020, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:22:47 PM
How much captain Clive ?
Depending on size ??
The wheels are 9.5 / 18 The rear arches need a little roll to get these on with the 265's and the front half of the plastic inner arch needs to come out, mind you I run the car very low so you may get away with not taking the plastics out.
£200 For the set of 4 collected or £20 on top for delivery. (Just been asked the same on a PM on RX8OC
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
Clive
Sorry for the late reply
I’ll
Have them if that’s ok.
Could t have happened at a better , my tyres are not so good on my car at the mon
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Sorry for the late reply
I’ll
Have them if that’s ok.
Could t have happened at a better , my tyres are not so good on my car at the mon
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 31, 2020, 10:02:03 AM
Post by: clive on May 31, 2020, 10:02:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
Clive
Sorry for the late reply
I’ll
Have them if that’s ok.
Could t have happened at a better , my tyres are not so good on my car at the mon
Thanks Wayne, I need to buy more race fuel so this will help toward the race fund :great:
Do you want them sent or do you want to get Mr Cummings to collect?
If you can PayPal the money to sales@racingbeateurope.com that will be great 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:11:13 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:11:13 AM
That’s done Clive
Could you send them please
I’ll pm address shortly
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I’ll pm address shortly
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:20:20 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: clive on May 31, 2020, 10:02:03 AMHa ha CummingsQuote from: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
Clive
Sorry for the late reply
I’ll
Have them if that’s ok.
Could t have happened at a better , my tyres are not so good on my car at the mon
Thanks Wayne, I need to buy more race fuel so this will help toward the race fund :great:
Do you want them sent or do you want to get Mr Cummings to collect?
If you can PayPal the money to sales@racingbeateurope.com that will be great 8)
I like that
We have a track day at castle Combe next Saturday the 6th .
It came to light yesterday that as Wales is still on lockdown that we are breaking the law travelling across the boarder .
Been to work everyday and never been pulled in , just our luck we’ll get pulled up next Saturday morning on our journey
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:23:43 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:23:43 AM
That gives me an idea for a free trackday...know wheres that dobing in phone number....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:28:37 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:23:43 AMHa ha. Crack on
That gives me an idea for a free trackday...know wheres that dobing in phone number....
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Just tell them leave the orange van and pull the silver BMW estate at the back of the convoy
That’ll be Neil
Chris Holmes is also coming so that’s 3 red 8’s with black bonnets ..........
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:38:28 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:38:28 AM
I wouldnt do that to you mate
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
.....but if anything happens give me a bell...ill be in there like swimwear!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 10:50:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 31, 2020, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:22:47 PMLol captain Clive.
How much captain Clive ?
Depending on size ??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 11:44:40 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 31, 2020, 11:44:40 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 31, 2020, 10:39:16 AMBook it
.....but if anything happens give me a bell...ill be in there like swimwear!
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Your off work anyways and petrol is so cheap at the mo
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 07, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
Post by: clive on June 07, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
I'm going racing :wee_hee:
Got a timetable for Saturday the 4th July below. (Snetterton)
Got a timetable for Saturday the 4th July below. (Snetterton)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2020, 03:14:57 PM
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2020, 03:14:57 PM
Yay!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 12, 2020, 08:36:22 PM
Post by: clive on June 12, 2020, 08:36:22 PM
Been getting the car ready over the last couple of weeks, one of the things I have pushed around with my old mate Steve is a bonnet scoop to a, get some air up and out of the intercooler and b, to get some more downforce into the nose of the car.
I decided earlier in the week exactly how I wanted to make it, but when I got there today Steve had already made it, exactly how I wanted it :great: not quite finished yet but almost 8)
I decided earlier in the week exactly how I wanted to make it, but when I got there today Steve had already made it, exactly how I wanted it :great: not quite finished yet but almost 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2020, 08:47:39 PM
Post by: Casey on June 12, 2020, 08:47:39 PM
Oooo, that looks awsome!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
Looks great! Should keep them iats in check.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 09:38:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2020, 09:38:04 PM
Proper professional
Looks good that
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 12, 2020, 09:43:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 12, 2020, 09:43:46 PM
Well machined
Looks fab
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2020, 05:11:32 AM
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2020, 05:11:32 AM
Love it!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2020, 04:17:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2020, 04:17:43 PM
Bets on for how many degrees cooler it will be on the IATs? I'm going to say 9-12C
If Clive made a fresh air intake and sealed it off around the air filter I'd say he would get a few degrees air temp less also
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If Clive made a fresh air intake and sealed it off around the air filter I'd say he would get a few degrees air temp less also
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 14, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
Post by: boosted on June 14, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
Yes the air filter is still behind rad...modify a headlight for a cold air intake? But at 500bhp its not struggling
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2020, 05:03:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2020, 05:03:52 PM
Yeh but gaining free hp from fresh air is a win. Another 10-20 hp from not injesting its own waste products would be ideal lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 14, 2020, 05:35:31 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2020, 05:35:31 PM
The Intercooler is a modified Apexi / Trust , which I still consider the best you can buy. At one stage I even put identical boost gauges on each side and plumbed them into the cab and there was litterally NO pressure drop across it, hence its always staggered people who know just how cool it stays.
Havent got to tell prople on here, poor flowing restrictive intercoolers just become, interheaters ;)
Primary reason is not better cooling but more front end grip, more front end grip, more front end grip, more front end grip,
If you hadn't guessed, I like front end grip as it equals more corner entry speed :great:
Havent got to tell prople on here, poor flowing restrictive intercoolers just become, interheaters ;)
Primary reason is not better cooling but more front end grip, more front end grip, more front end grip, more front end grip,
If you hadn't guessed, I like front end grip as it equals more corner entry speed :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Ref earlier Clive.
You should still be able todo code read as the standard ecu is in there. Worth checking and clearing.
No throttle is seperately controlled by ETV relay and fuse.
On ignition no start. Omp ssv and throttle body operate self check...on start... the pcm cuts power to the ETV relay so the signals go off momentarily...at that is is a check that the pcm hss control of it fail safe safety.
Need to check the ETV fuse and relay is clicking on off and that the throttle butterfly is moving open shut on start up check. So nothing fouling its movement.
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You should still be able todo code read as the standard ecu is in there. Worth checking and clearing.
No throttle is seperately controlled by ETV relay and fuse.
On ignition no start. Omp ssv and throttle body operate self check...on start... the pcm cuts power to the ETV relay so the signals go off momentarily...at that is is a check that the pcm hss control of it fail safe safety.
Need to check the ETV fuse and relay is clicking on off and that the throttle butterfly is moving open shut on start up check. So nothing fouling its movement.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:59:11 PM
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:59:11 PM
Heres the relay..and wiring.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200615/e1a2c8482e4b739c99eba7ef91baedb0.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2020, 08:37:43 AM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2020, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Ref earlier Clive.
You should still be able todo code read as the standard ecu is in there. Worth checking and clearing.
No throttle is seperately controlled by ETV relay and fuse.
On ignition no start. Omp ssv and throttle body operate self check...on start... the pcm cuts power to the ETV relay so the signals go off momentarily...at that is is a check that the pcm hss control of it fail safe safety.
Need to check the ETV fuse and relay is clicking on off and that the throttle butterfly is moving open shut on start up check. So nothing fouling its movement.
Thanks Jon.
If its one of the big Mazda fuses, any chance you can remember the colour of the fuse
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2020, 08:46:17 AM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2020, 08:46:17 AM
No mate its a little 1 in main engine fuse box..blue 15a ETV
So in your passenger footwell.
As things have been disconnected for welding it may have confused things so also battery off for 10 mins to reset and resync.
Has the intercooling pipework been off near the throttlebody? Worth checking butterfly can move freely etc.
The fuse is the first starting point and all the ecu plugs clicked in etv which im sure youve done.
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So in your passenger footwell.
As things have been disconnected for welding it may have confused things so also battery off for 10 mins to reset and resync.
Has the intercooling pipework been off near the throttlebody? Worth checking butterfly can move freely etc.
The fuse is the first starting point and all the ecu plugs clicked in etv which im sure youve done.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 20, 2020, 07:56:21 AM
Post by: boosted on June 20, 2020, 07:56:21 AM
Any news Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 20, 2020, 10:20:51 AM
Post by: clive on June 20, 2020, 10:20:51 AM
No news yet, tried a pedal, a throttle body and all the other stuff you know about.
Pete has sent me an ECU but UPS deliveries have been delayed all week so I wont see it till monday :(
Pete has sent me an ECU but UPS deliveries have been delayed all week so I wont see it till monday :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 21, 2020, 12:58:03 PM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2020, 12:58:03 PM
Just bit the bullit and put faith in Christeen behaving and getting a throttle back this week.
Just booked a Brands test day for next Friday, lets me set the car up with the changes and gives me seat time to get back in the swing of things for the following week.
Fingers crossed I bolt the ECU on tomorrow and I have a throttle
Just booked a Brands test day for next Friday, lets me set the car up with the changes and gives me seat time to get back in the swing of things for the following week.
Fingers crossed I bolt the ECU on tomorrow and I have a throttle
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
Im at Thruxton tomoz mate give me a bell if you need me and ill get straight back to you.
Fingers toes arms crossed!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 21, 2020, 02:41:27 PM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2020, 02:41:27 PM
:icon_thumleft:
Quote from: boosted on June 21, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
Im at Thruxton tomoz mate give me a bell if you need me and ill get straight back to you.
Fingers toes arms crossed!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2020, 09:04:18 PM
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2020, 09:04:18 PM
Im home Clive, bit stinky but home.
Zrooom zroom.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 24, 2020, 09:43:52 PM
Post by: clive on June 24, 2020, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 24, 2020, 09:04:18 PM
Im home Clive, bit stinky but home.
Zrooom zroom.
Pleased you got back OK and huge huge thanks for finding that elusive broken wire, only took 6 hours ;) ;)
No longer Cinderella, I can go to the ball after all :great:.
Hopefully The Brands Test day will go OK and stay dry as I want to try my new WTC slicks and see what sort of times they will bring to see if I can be somewhere on the pace for Thunder Saloons.
Then to see if my new Extreme super soft Track Attack live for a 20 second race and also the times they produce,
Once Again Thank you Jon, God knows how we would have found that without your remembered knowledge from when you wired the car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Have a good day!!
Stick a few cable ties in and around loom..and secure the throttle pedal loom on that tag.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 26, 2020, 09:14:32 PM
Post by: clive on June 26, 2020, 09:14:32 PM
So pleased with the car doing hard 1/2 hour sessions that made a good day Test Day at Brands Hatch today, mostly tyre testing and the car behaved perfectly even in this heatwave. Set my fastest ever lap round Brands but this was on the set of world touring car slicks I scrounged to use in Thunder Saloons.
In the afternoon I put my new Track Attack “roadâ€tyres on and promptly lost loads of time. Excellent shakedown day for next Saturday at Snetterton.
The nice Window vent didn't work and had to stick an unsightly hose back on or die of heat exhaustion! Not sure the scoop brought down under bonnet temperatures, but I am sure it's giving more downforce onto the nose. :great:
I was told years ago that if you could even just break into a 54 second lap at Brands with a saloon you had quick car, today's time (on slicks) was a 53.8 :) and I know that there's a little bit more to come from the idiot behind the wheel!. To give you an idea, the full blown Britcar Aston Martin team that was along side us, was running 54's with one driver and high 51's with the co driver-------------- so not a huge time difference, but a bit of a money difference between the RX-8 and the Aston, probably in the region of at least 300K to run that car and team of six professionals.
O' for a sequential gear box and being able to put a bit more boost into the car. With the amount of professional teams there today, I am staggered they can still find the sponsors to fund them, blowed if I can find funding despite putting our portfolio out across all the major media site on the internet , still not complaining I'm still out there doing it------------my problem is I'm so competitive and I'm always going to want to show the world what an RX-8 Rotary can really do on track so I'm always going to want to go faster!
In the afternoon I put my new Track Attack “roadâ€tyres on and promptly lost loads of time. Excellent shakedown day for next Saturday at Snetterton.
The nice Window vent didn't work and had to stick an unsightly hose back on or die of heat exhaustion! Not sure the scoop brought down under bonnet temperatures, but I am sure it's giving more downforce onto the nose. :great:
I was told years ago that if you could even just break into a 54 second lap at Brands with a saloon you had quick car, today's time (on slicks) was a 53.8 :) and I know that there's a little bit more to come from the idiot behind the wheel!. To give you an idea, the full blown Britcar Aston Martin team that was along side us, was running 54's with one driver and high 51's with the co driver-------------- so not a huge time difference, but a bit of a money difference between the RX-8 and the Aston, probably in the region of at least 300K to run that car and team of six professionals.
O' for a sequential gear box and being able to put a bit more boost into the car. With the amount of professional teams there today, I am staggered they can still find the sponsors to fund them, blowed if I can find funding despite putting our portfolio out across all the major media site on the internet , still not complaining I'm still out there doing it------------my problem is I'm so competitive and I'm always going to want to show the world what an RX-8 Rotary can really do on track so I'm always going to want to go faster!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Sounds like you had fun Clive you should have asked the Aston guys if you could show them how to make a faster car for 1/10th of the cost
Imagine if you had a sequential gear box, that would shave plenty of time off too?
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you should have asked the Aston guys if you could show them how to make a faster car for 1/10th of the costImagine if you had a sequential gear box, that would shave plenty of time off too?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on June 27, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
Post by: jinx on June 27, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
As NTT is a subsidiary of Nippon Telegraph & Telephone they might be interested to know that their share of the Aston's budget bought them a shave over 2 seconds a lap, delivered by a seasoned, if sometimes truculent, example of their domestic product. Face it Clive, you just don't go to dinner with the right people....and you don't have a forty footer to create shade in the paddock either. :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2020, 07:49:52 AM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2020, 07:49:52 AM
Good to hear Sir, awesome
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2020, 08:13:15 AM
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2020, 08:13:15 AM
Yep Brilliant news.
Christine came back for a short week stay but outstayed here welcome so booted out
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
Quote from: jinx on June 27, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
As NTT is a subsidiary of Nippon Telegraph & Telephone they might be interested to know that their share of the Aston's budget bought them a shave over 2 seconds a lap, delivered by a seasoned, if sometimes truculent, example of their domestic product. Face it Clive, you just don't go to dinner with the right people....and you don't have a forty footer to create shade in the paddock either. :D
I go to dinner with you, or doesn't that count ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 09:03:23 AM
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Imagine if you had a sequential gear box, that would shave plenty of time off too?
A sequential box would be worth at least two seconds around brands as there's two places I run out of revs and have to feather the throttle out. This is the faster way because by the time I change up and down again it costs even more time. With a sequential gear box you would run a lower diff ratio and be able to change gear real quick.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 27, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 27, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
Good news that Clive, How many times did you have to change your wheels over ?
I was at castle Combe and it was boiling , half burned out after changing wheels over once
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 11:06:28 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: clive on June 27, 2020, 09:03:23 AMWhat rpm arr you revving too?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Imagine if you had a sequential gear box, that would shave plenty of time off too?
A sequential box would be worth at least two seconds around brands as there's two places I run out of revs and have to feather the throttle out. This is the faster way because by the time I change up and down again it costs even more time. With a sequential gear box you would run a lower diff ratio and be able to change gear real quick.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on June 27, 2020, 02:53:54 PM
Post by: jinx on June 27, 2020, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: clive on June 27, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
I go to dinner with you, or doesn't that count ;)
I rest my case 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 27, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
Good news that Clive, How many times did you have to change your wheels over ?
I was at castle Combe and it was boiling , half burned out after changing wheels over once
Only one change, turned up with slicks on and changed to trackday tyres in the afternoon
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 06:23:52 PM
Post by: clive on June 27, 2020, 06:23:52 PM
Grant, Mapped and restricted to 9K (which I use all the time)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 29, 2020, 11:12:49 PM
Post by: clive on June 29, 2020, 11:12:49 PM
Post Covid-19 Test Day Brands Hatch 26th June 2020 - Session 1
https://youtu.be/GAGBxkyFAEM
https://youtu.be/GAGBxkyFAEM
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 08:54:50 AM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 08:54:50 AM
Huge thanks to Phillip for staying up late to post this 2nd session
https://youtu.be/it52hW0yifw
https://youtu.be/it52hW0yifw
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 30, 2020, 08:56:04 AM
Post by: boosted on June 30, 2020, 08:56:04 AM
Awesome vids!! Youve still got it!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
I can see what you mean about wanting a sequential box , the times would tumble further then .
However , I suppose the gearing can’t be perfect for every circuit
Dont really appreciate the speed ,until you pass other cars like some are stood still .
What was time difference between semi and slicks Clive ?
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However , I suppose the gearing can’t be perfect for every circuit
Dont really appreciate the speed ,until you pass other cars like some are stood still .
What was time difference between semi and slicks Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 30, 2020, 12:03:05 PM
Post by: Casey on June 30, 2020, 12:03:05 PM
2nd Video:
Hairy moment at 2m48s towards the end of Brabham Straight, squeezing you onto the grass - same guy at 18m moves out unexpected onto your line!
Another one at 12m, with that Mini seeming to move over, causing you to react!
Otherwise, looking great for Snett on Saturday :great:
Hairy moment at 2m48s towards the end of Brabham Straight, squeezing you onto the grass - same guy at 18m moves out unexpected onto your line!
Another one at 12m, with that Mini seeming to move over, causing you to react!
Otherwise, looking great for Snett on Saturday :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 30, 2020, 01:09:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 30, 2020, 01:09:04 PM
Bloody Lotus drivers !!!
We're not all the same
We're not all the same
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
I can see what you mean about wanting a sequential box , the times would tumble further then .
However , I suppose the gearing can’t be perfect for every circuit
Dont really appreciate the speed ,until you pass other cars like some are stood still .
What was time difference between semi and slicks Clive ?
2 seconds difference but to be fair I had the wrong tyre pressures,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: clive on June 30, 2020, 07:56:13 PMWowQuote from: Mr Spiller on June 30, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
I can see what you mean about wanting a sequential box , the times would tumble further then .
However , I suppose the gearing can’t be perfect for every circuit
Dont really appreciate the speed ,until you pass other cars like some are stood still .
What was time difference between semi and slicks Clive ?
2 seconds difference but to be fair I had the wrong tyre pressures,
That’s a lot in a minute
I enjoyed the first video , I’ll watch the second in the morning
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 01, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
Post by: clive on July 01, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
Getting ready to Race@ Snetterton on Saturday hopefully TSL will be following the event.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 02, 2020, 08:06:35 AM
Post by: clive on July 02, 2020, 08:06:35 AM
Time table:- Qualifying 10.30/ Race 3 13.10pm/ Race 8 18.10pm
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Orange rx7 on July 02, 2020, 06:42:54 PM
Post by: Orange rx7 on July 02, 2020, 06:42:54 PM
Quote from: clive on June 29, 2020, 11:12:49 PMMore bad drivers than the m25 on that track
Post Covid-19 Test Day Brands Hatch 26th June 2020 - Session 1
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
Good luck Tomoz !!!
Weather looks changeable...ill he listening in on TSL.
Go get em Champ
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Go get em Champ
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 03, 2020, 07:39:59 PM
Post by: clive on July 03, 2020, 07:39:59 PM
TSL Van is parked at the hotel so hopefully there will be commentary as well as timing and results.
Cars all tucked up in bed waiting for the off tomorrow
Cars all tucked up in bed waiting for the off tomorrow
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 09:23:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 09:23:44 PM
Hope you have a good days racing Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 03, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 03, 2020, 09:32:51 PM
Best of luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 03, 2020, 09:36:05 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 03, 2020, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: clive on July 03, 2020, 07:39:59 PMGood luck
TSL Van is parked at the hotel so hopefully there will be commentary as well as timing and results.
Cars all tucked up in bed waiting for the off tomorrow
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:43:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 05:43:42 AM
Fingers crossed captain Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 04, 2020, 08:16:01 AM
Post by: re japi on July 04, 2020, 08:16:01 AM
Good luck Sir. Show those fourbangers some rotary power
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2020, 02:28:18 PM
Snetterton report live from the venue. Clive qualified 8th on the grid of 32 cars and improved two places to finish 6th. Car going well.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 02:33:57 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 02:33:57 PM
On the Entry list a fair few new names. GOOD LUCK race 2!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 04, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
Congrats Clive, waiting outside with my phone, missed the lot grrrrr
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
Woohoo!! Rain Master!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 04, 2020, 07:50:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 04, 2020, 07:50:13 PM
Well done Clive
I guess you had a good day
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 05, 2020, 12:36:28 PM
Post by: Casey on July 05, 2020, 12:36:28 PM
Great result in the wet 2nd race Clive - so pleased to be there to see it - congrats!
A few more pics from yesterday:
A few more pics from yesterday:
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 05, 2020, 01:10:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 05, 2020, 01:10:13 PM
That rear wing from the side shot just shows how big it actually is
Well done Clive, hope you had a great day
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 05, 2020, 01:29:02 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 05, 2020, 01:29:02 PM
@clive Well done!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Thanks Guys :)
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Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Snetterton Race Report 4th July
Although we had a field of 32 cars, I was very disappointed to find I had only qualified 8th on the grid.🙁
1st race was a bit messy at the start and caution was needed and just as well because just a couple of laps in, the Team Hard Golf decided to come just about to a stop when it broke his gear box and this lost a couple of spots while taking avoiding action!. To be fair the Team Hard mechanics obviously saw what happened and thanked me for not taking ramming their car👍. Managed to get a couple of places back, but finished a lowly 6th and looking at the times that were consistent it showed lap after lap I was getting the best from the car I had under me🤔.
The 2nd race was decidedly wet, so I put my 7 year old Dunlop wets on, which had always been allowed in Track Attack, along with several other cars that had changed to wets, indeed I even checked 2 weeks before the event that I could still use these if needed and was told they were OK for now. Before going out we changed the spark plugs and found a damaged electrode wire. Even on the warm up laps I knew we had found the lack of pace that had plagued me all day!😁 I then so enjoyed what is maybe one of my best races ever because I had to think.
You will see on the video that will come that whilst quickly into third, I decided to just let the front two sort themselves out. The overdriving Civic slid off shorty after leaving just the powerful superlight Peugeot ahead that had set the pace all day ahead and yet again I know I had time to work out where he is quicker and where he was not, so I knew the parts of the track where I could take it easy.
Once past I just backed the pace down and drove on my mirror as I have raced enough to know that you only need to be in front to win------not by half a lap taking risks 😉. Some of my fellow competitors will be very happy to know that I have just ordered new wet “Road†tyres that will be 200% complant in any type of racing I chose to go in and I know they will be quicker in the wet than the old wooden tyres I won yesterday’s race on 😱.
Although we had a field of 32 cars, I was very disappointed to find I had only qualified 8th on the grid.🙁
1st race was a bit messy at the start and caution was needed and just as well because just a couple of laps in, the Team Hard Golf decided to come just about to a stop when it broke his gear box and this lost a couple of spots while taking avoiding action!. To be fair the Team Hard mechanics obviously saw what happened and thanked me for not taking ramming their car👍. Managed to get a couple of places back, but finished a lowly 6th and looking at the times that were consistent it showed lap after lap I was getting the best from the car I had under me🤔.
The 2nd race was decidedly wet, so I put my 7 year old Dunlop wets on, which had always been allowed in Track Attack, along with several other cars that had changed to wets, indeed I even checked 2 weeks before the event that I could still use these if needed and was told they were OK for now. Before going out we changed the spark plugs and found a damaged electrode wire. Even on the warm up laps I knew we had found the lack of pace that had plagued me all day!😁 I then so enjoyed what is maybe one of my best races ever because I had to think.
You will see on the video that will come that whilst quickly into third, I decided to just let the front two sort themselves out. The overdriving Civic slid off shorty after leaving just the powerful superlight Peugeot ahead that had set the pace all day ahead and yet again I know I had time to work out where he is quicker and where he was not, so I knew the parts of the track where I could take it easy.
Once past I just backed the pace down and drove on my mirror as I have raced enough to know that you only need to be in front to win------not by half a lap taking risks 😉. Some of my fellow competitors will be very happy to know that I have just ordered new wet “Road†tyres that will be 200% complant in any type of racing I chose to go in and I know they will be quicker in the wet than the old wooden tyres I won yesterday’s race on 😱.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 06:10:04 PM
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 06:10:04 PM
You gone for the Uniroyal Rainsports? With them on nobody will be able to catch you up due to the water displacement by these epic tyres!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 07:10:13 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 07:10:13 PM
Looks like Extreme are going to be able to supply me something.
It's an extra cost I could have done without, which was why I made sure I could continue to run the dunlops, the Extreme's will be less than half the cost.
It's an extra cost I could have done without, which was why I made sure I could continue to run the dunlops, the Extreme's will be less than half the cost.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 07:23:47 PM
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 07:23:47 PM
Cool! They got a website ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on July 05, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
Post by: Prototype on July 05, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
Well done Clive, here is Race 1
https://youtu.be/6pYL-FG-_Gs
https://youtu.be/6pYL-FG-_Gs
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
http://extreme-tyres.com/en/tyres/
The UK guy trades through FaceBook
Just ordered their VR1 in a soft compound (Wet use only)
The UK guy trades through FaceBook
Just ordered their VR1 in a soft compound (Wet use only)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:12:54 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:12:54 PM
Quote from: Prototype on July 05, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
Well done Clive, here is Race 1
https://youtu.be/6pYL-FG-_Gs
Many thanks and on your birthday as well :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on July 05, 2020, 10:26:35 PM
Post by: Prototype on July 05, 2020, 10:26:35 PM
No problem Clive :)
And here is Race 2 - Congratulations on your win :)
https://youtu.be/ge1DOdWjdzU
And here is Race 2 - Congratulations on your win :)
https://youtu.be/ge1DOdWjdzU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
Must do somthing about that mirror!
Wow that was close with the team Hard car! Seeing the video, I'm now miffed about not realising the car should have been quicker down the straights in quallyfying because had I changed the plugs and had the power I then had in the second race I would have at least got the two if not three in front of me :(
Wow that was close with the team Hard car! Seeing the video, I'm now miffed about not realising the car should have been quicker down the straights in quallyfying because had I changed the plugs and had the power I then had in the second race I would have at least got the two if not three in front of me :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:51:30 PM
Post by: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:51:30 PM
Thanks again, shame I didn't get the rear camera to turn on as you would have seen the second place car floating around the back of me for most of the race,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 05, 2020, 11:09:44 PM
Post by: Casey on July 05, 2020, 11:09:44 PM
Another couple of great videos - thanks for getting them up so quickly Philip :icon_thumleft:
Sorry I was unable to get any recording of the race commentary at the track. The speakers were not operational in the only place people could view the track and take pictures. Most normal viewing areas were closed off. Even if the speakers were working, I suspect the commentary would've been drowned out by the noise of the cars on circuit anyway!
Sorry I was unable to get any recording of the race commentary at the track. The speakers were not operational in the only place people could view the track and take pictures. Most normal viewing areas were closed off. Even if the speakers were working, I suspect the commentary would've been drowned out by the noise of the cars on circuit anyway!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2020, 08:18:01 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 06, 2020, 08:18:01 AM
Well earned trophy
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2020, 08:43:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 06, 2020, 08:43:51 PM
Just watched the first race on the big screen with a curry on my lap.
No previous insight into snetterton, looks twisty.
I know you've been fiddling with radiator ducting, but have you changed your bonnet Clive? got a bit of high speed lift on the trailing edge.
No previous insight into snetterton, looks twisty.
I know you've been fiddling with radiator ducting, but have you changed your bonnet Clive? got a bit of high speed lift on the trailing edge.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 07, 2020, 06:19:10 PM
Post by: clive on July 07, 2020, 06:19:10 PM
Just signed up for Thunder Saloon's to have a run @ Brands Hatch Aug 1st / 2nd 👍
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 07, 2020, 09:23:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 07, 2020, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:51:30 PMNeed that camera to work then your video man can do some editing wizardry magic so it looks like your rear view mirror
Thanks again, shame I didn't get the rear camera to turn on as you would have seen the second place car floating around the back of me for most of the race,
Had a look at the start date of this thread... 2012
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 07, 2020, 09:26:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 07, 2020, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: clive on July 07, 2020, 06:19:10 PMIs that he series where you use slicks Clive ?
Just signed up for Thunder Saloon's to have a run @ Brands Hatch Aug 1st / 2nd
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2020, 09:34:04 PM
Post by: boosted on July 07, 2020, 09:34:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 07, 2020, 09:23:52 PMYeah its weird where the time goes...blink of an eye .Quote from: clive on July 05, 2020, 10:51:30 PMNeed that camera to work then your video man can do some editing wizardry magic so it looks like your rear view mirror
Thanks again, shame I didn't get the rear camera to turn on as you would have seen the second place car floating around the back of me for most of the race,
Had a look at the start date of this thread... 2012
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 08:44:54 AM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 08:44:54 AM
Thanks Grant,
And yes Wayne, slicks for Thunder Saloons.
Im never afraid of a challenge and hope to be at least competative, after all this is the fastest saloon championship in the UK with these huge money monsters racing below.
p.s. off to Pip's again on monday to make sure the car is tip top
And yes Wayne, slicks for Thunder Saloons.
Im never afraid of a challenge and hope to be at least competative, after all this is the fastest saloon championship in the UK with these huge money monsters racing below.
p.s. off to Pip's again on monday to make sure the car is tip top
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2020, 08:56:41 AM
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2020, 08:56:41 AM
V8 versus Little Rotary battle
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2020, 08:56:46 AM
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2020, 08:56:46 AM
V8 versus Little Rotary battle
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
Thunder saloons looks prety much like ozzy v8 supercars
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 05:49:21 PM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 05:49:21 PM
Thats exactly what they are Grant, god knows how much they paid for these type of Race Cars----------these are not converted saloons, these are ground up race cars ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 05:53:35 PM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 05:53:35 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 06, 2020, 08:43:51 PM
I know you've been fiddling with radiator ducting, but have you changed your bonnet Clive? got a bit of high speed lift on the trailing edge.
Bonnet is the same one modded, Malcolm has some good pics of it. Jim (Lennycarlof) is talking about installing some pressure sensors and linking them into the ECU but it all whooshed over my little head :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 05:54:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 05:54:15 PM
I hope they don't have the same V8s those things cost megger bucks
They would sound amazing if they did but I'd say they weren't as high end and noise restrictions at the race tracks will spoil the sound
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those things cost megger bucksThey would sound amazing if they did but I'd say they weren't as high end and noise restrictions at the race tracks will spoil the sound
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
Post by: clive on July 08, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 05:54:15 PM
I hope they don't have the same V8s
They would sound amazing if they did but I'd say they weren't as high end and noise restrictions at the race tracks will spoil the sound
I would say they have the same engines these turn up in F1 style transporters!
Just found out that at Brands Hatch 1st/2nd of August spectators will be allowed
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 06:47:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: clive on July 08, 2020, 06:12:08 PMJesus those motors alone are so expensive, 10,000 rpm v8sQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 08, 2020, 05:54:15 PM
I hope they don't have the same V8s
They would sound amazing if they did but I'd say they weren't as high end and noise restrictions at the race tracks will spoil the sound
I would say they have the same engines these turn up in F1 style transporters!
Just found out that at Brands Hatch 1st/2nd of August spectators will be allowed
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on July 08, 2020, 09:09:19 PM
Post by: jinx on July 08, 2020, 09:09:19 PM
Here's the thing you need Clive - a snip.
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/77102/2008-riley-mazda-rx-8-gt-grand-am-race-car
Might have to shell out a little extra on a transporter though :D
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/77102/2008-riley-mazda-rx-8-gt-grand-am-race-car
Might have to shell out a little extra on a transporter though :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 09, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
Post by: clive on July 09, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: jinx on July 08, 2020, 09:09:19 PM
Here's the thing you need Clive - a snip.
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/77102/2008-riley-mazda-rx-8-gt-grand-am-race-car
Might have to shell out a little extra on a transporter though :D
Its actually a very good price for what it is, now where's that ticket :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 12, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
Post by: clive on July 12, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
Philip sent me some pictures at Snetterton, from 6 years ago, my how the car has changed !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 12, 2020, 05:47:10 PM
Post by: clive on July 12, 2020, 05:47:10 PM
Off up to Pip's again tomorrow to get the map checked as it went a little lean at thje end of the 2nd race, plus it was fluffy from 8500 up.
Need to make sure all is OK and ready for the Thunder Saloon race up next
Need to make sure all is OK and ready for the Thunder Saloon race up next
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 12, 2020, 06:01:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 12, 2020, 06:01:42 PM
Big difference with the aero
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 18, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
Post by: Casey on July 18, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
A few more pics from the Snetterton race day that I omitted to post up:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:44:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:44:27 PM
I forgot how little engine you engine up with in there after removing all the rx8 plastic panelling and stuff.
Clive are you allowed to run with out head lights? Or at least run with one?
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Clive are you allowed to run with out head lights? Or at least run with one?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 20, 2020, 06:21:04 PM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2020, 06:21:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:44:27 PM
I forgot how little engine you engine up with in there after removing all the rx8 plastic panelling and stuff.
Clive are you allowed to run with out head lights? Or at least run with one?
From memory MSA says lights must be in place, also I have the lights on most of the time to let em know I'm there.
p.s. Perhaps not of me, but thank you for the pictures Malcolm, love the bonnet and the up the kerb ones.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 20, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
Here we go, the car on the Dyno.
Turns out I was way out on power plus all fluffy at the top and even the new plugs were losing me 20bhp. Change of type of plug sorted that. Back to the same power but Pip found me more mid range and its coming in proper on lower boost now. So, an excellent Dyno session and well worth the trip :great: :great: :great:
https://youtu.be/rYpcTLjKCZs?t=3
Turns out I was way out on power plus all fluffy at the top and even the new plugs were losing me 20bhp. Change of type of plug sorted that. Back to the same power but Pip found me more mid range and its coming in proper on lower boost now. So, an excellent Dyno session and well worth the trip :great: :great: :great:
https://youtu.be/rYpcTLjKCZs?t=3
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 20, 2020, 09:22:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 20, 2020, 09:22:31 PM
Car sounds great clive
What plugs are you running?
Hooe your not running rx8 plugs at 125 quid a pop
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What plugs are you running?
Hooe your not running rx8 plugs at 125 quid a pop
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 21, 2020, 05:53:08 AM
Post by: re japi on July 21, 2020, 05:53:08 AM
Sounds great.
Yeah, we have learnd here that only few plugs are good running on race PP engines or bigger hp turbo cars. Bad plugs can cost you an engine
I wonder how much Pip needs money to come over here to tune few cars? I know he visits Norway sometimes
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Yeah, we have learnd here that only few plugs are good running on race PP engines or bigger hp turbo cars. Bad plugs can cost you an engine
I wonder how much Pip needs money to come over here to tune few cars?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 21, 2020, 08:36:39 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 21, 2020, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 21, 2020, 05:53:08 AMIt’s worth asking Pip
Sounds great.
Yeah, we have learnd here that only few plugs are good running on race PP engines or bigger hp turbo cars. Bad plugs can cost you an engine
I wonder how much Pip needs money to come over here to tune few cars?
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I rang him last year and he was in one of the Nordic countries tuning a few cars .
Felt like I was talking to a rock star
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 21, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
Post by: re japi on July 21, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 21, 2020, 08:36:39 AMI think I asked Clive once to ask PipQuote from: re japi on July 21, 2020, 05:53:08 AMIt’s worth asking Pip
Sounds great.
Yeah, we have learnd here that only few plugs are good running on race PP engines or bigger hp turbo cars. Bad plugs can cost you an engine
I wonder how much Pip needs money to come over here to tune few cars?
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I rang him last year and he was in one of the Nordic countries tuning a few cars .
Felt like I was talking to a rock star
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 12:17:25 PM
Iv been looking at spark plugs for my car, so was wondering what you think if these Clive? And which ones you use.
The R6725 s are what a lot of the methanol drag cars use, from what iv found they're about 20 quid each
NGK BR10ES
NGK R6725-105
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The R6725 s are what a lot of the methanol drag cars use, from what iv found they're about 20 quid each
NGK BR10ES
NGK R6725-105
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 07:49:47 PM
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 07:49:47 PM
Gone back to using NGK R6725-11's rather than the cheaper NGK equivalent that have failed me twice now.
I cant buy NGK R6725-11's in for the money you say, so be very careful as Chinese fake NGK’s are currently flooding the market!
I have heard some use these NGK BR10ES because they are cheap, but from memory these are just Gen 2 EGI plugs.
I cant buy NGK R6725-11's in for the money you say, so be very careful as Chinese fake NGK’s are currently flooding the market!
I have heard some use these NGK BR10ES because they are cheap, but from memory these are just Gen 2 EGI plugs.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 07:59:28 PM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 07:59:28 PM
Ive got em (cheaper plugs) in my car Clive..they should be fine at 320bhp..i only had std plugs b4..?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 08:17:42 PM
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 08:17:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 21, 2020, 07:59:28 PM
Ive got em (cheaper plugs) in my car Clive..they should be fine at 320bhp..i only had std plugs b4..
Pip thinks they are OK in road cars, but the race car demands are just too much for them :violent1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 08:18:26 PM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 08:18:26 PM
Cool.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
Post by: clive on July 21, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
Different view from my frustrating first race where I was down on power. You can see later in the race why I am pleased with my this years brake set up, off the end of Bentley straight, https://youtu.be/DD3UTrweUxY?t=5
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Yeh iv just had a proper look, 20 quid a pop is way too cheap for them to be real.
Finding them at 30-46 each
Obviously you run 11 heat range plugs because you are using petrol, I have to use a colder plug because methanol burns cooler so the 10s suit it better for sure.
The ignition system I am getting is rediculously powerful too so getting cheap knock off plugs will be terrible as it will just melt them.
What are you gapping the plugs too?
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Finding them at 30-46 each
Obviously you run 11 heat range plugs because you are using petrol, I have to use a colder plug because methanol burns cooler so the 10s suit it better for sure.
The ignition system I am getting is rediculously powerful too so getting cheap knock off plugs will be terrible as it will just melt them.
What are you gapping the plugs too?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 22, 2020, 08:54:05 AM
Post by: clive on July 22, 2020, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
What are you gapping the plugs too?
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Plug gap is out of the box
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 22, 2020, 06:17:38 PM
Post by: boosted on July 22, 2020, 06:17:38 PM
Sponsorship!!!
Bump into an old mate today. Hes a driving instructor both car and bike.
Hes got 2 young boys who race junior class motorcycles...on a shoestring budget both lads are showing great talent with results...feelers have been out for sponsorship but absolutely nothing. My mate said his pensions gone he will be teaching people to drive and ride well into his 70s! But hes gonna keep trying!
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Bump into an old mate today. Hes a driving instructor both car and bike.
Hes got 2 young boys who race junior class motorcycles...on a shoestring budget both lads are showing great talent with results...feelers have been out for sponsorship but absolutely nothing. My mate said his pensions gone he will be teaching people to drive and ride well into his 70s! But hes gonna keep trying!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 23, 2020, 08:25:09 AM
Post by: clive on July 23, 2020, 08:25:09 AM
Good for him also great he's supporting these kids
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 23, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
Post by: re japi on July 23, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
Im using basic plugs for breakin (on right side), and these racing plugs when car is dieled in. Many of us is using these racing plugs on turbos and NAs(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/8c11c0fc951229b40525193301c3af25.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 06:01:24 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: re japi on July 23, 2020, 10:54:49 AMJapi
Im using basic plugs for breakin (on right side), and these racing plugs when car is dieled in. Many of us is using these racing plugs on turbos and NAs(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/8c11c0fc951229b40525193301c3af25.jpg)
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What’s the code on them race plugs ?
Might be worth a try on my standard RX8 .
It just a track car so gets revved very well .
Just over a year and the 8+9’s in there seem to have given up
Thanks
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:23:05 AM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:23:05 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 06:01:24 PMHere you go mate.Quote from: re japi on July 23, 2020, 10:54:49 AMJapi
Im using basic plugs for breakin (on right side), and these racing plugs when car is dieled in. Many of us is using these racing plugs on turbos and NAs(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/8c11c0fc951229b40525193301c3af25.jpg)
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What’s the code on them race plugs ?
Might be worth a try on my standard RX8 .
It just a track car so gets revved very well .
Just over a year and the 8+9’s in there seem to have given up
Thanks
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As I said, these work quite nicely in different cars. We use them +500 hp turbos and in race PP engines.
Unfortunately, we have to order them from US. Actually, we have to order all of our spark plugs from oversees
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:29:32 AM
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:29:32 AM
Wayne, you can just use thse all round on the RX-8 https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mazda-rx7-fd--ngk-bur-9eqp-spark-plug-set-759-p.asp
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
Quote from: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:29:32 AMThanks Clive
Wayne, you can just use thse all round on the RX-8 https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mazda-rx7-fd--ngk-bur-9eqp-spark-plug-set-759-p.asp
All these bloody fake plugs everyone are talking about , I know it’s critical they are bought from a trusted source
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 07:34:02 PM
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 07:34:02 PM
Well never been afraid to bite off more than I can chew!
All set for Brands at the weekend and play with a 33 car Thunder Saloon grid. My little 1300cc car has been put in the fastest Class A section along with a 7.0 Monaro, 5.0 Ford Falcon and a big bore 2.8 Skyline , so yes really bitten off more than I can chew-------but it should be fun ;).
If I can manage somewhere near the top ten, I will view it as a result :great:
There's a live stream on the day also full TV coverage to be shown the following week / Saturday Qualifying 9am 1st Race 1.30 pm then Sunday 11.20am
All set for Brands at the weekend and play with a 33 car Thunder Saloon grid. My little 1300cc car has been put in the fastest Class A section along with a 7.0 Monaro, 5.0 Ford Falcon and a big bore 2.8 Skyline , so yes really bitten off more than I can chew-------but it should be fun ;).
If I can manage somewhere near the top ten, I will view it as a result :great:
There's a live stream on the day also full TV coverage to be shown the following week / Saturday Qualifying 9am 1st Race 1.30 pm then Sunday 11.20am
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
Is the livestream gonna be on youtube?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 29, 2020, 07:58:38 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 29, 2020, 07:58:38 PM
Quote from: clive on July 29, 2020, 07:34:02 PMGood luck Clive.
Well never been afraid to bite off more than I can chew!
All set for Brands at the weekend and play with a 33 car Thunder Saloon grid. My little 1300cc car has been put in the fastest Class A section along with a 7.0 Monaro, 5.0 Ford Falcon and a big bore 2.8 Skyline , so yes really bitten off more than I can chew-------but it should be fun ;).
If I can manage somewhere near the top ten, I will view it as a result :great:
There's a live stream on the day also full TV coverage to be shown the following week / Saturday Qualifying 9am 1st Race 1.30 pm then Sunday 11.20am
Where can we watch your kick a$$ online
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 29, 2020, 08:01:11 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 29, 2020, 08:01:11 PM
Found it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/c47491552733ee73b840ddd316efa083.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:23:22 PM
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:23:22 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 29, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
Is the livestream gonna be on youtube?
Not sure, maybe more info nearer the day
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:25:15 PM
Post by: clive on July 29, 2020, 08:25:15 PM
Thanks Brad :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2020, 08:49:28 PM
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2020, 08:49:28 PM
Good luck Clive :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
GOOD LUCK TOMOZ!
AND HAVE FUN!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 05:00:48 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 05:00:48 PM
All set up for tomorrow, the lull before the (Thunder) Storm.
Please note anyone following on https://www.tsl-timing.com/ my race number is 521 for this event.
For anyone going there are a lot of amazing cars that are going to be racing, so I'm also looking forward to spectating this time as well.
Thanks for the wishes
Please note anyone following on https://www.tsl-timing.com/ my race number is 521 for this event.
For anyone going there are a lot of amazing cars that are going to be racing, so I'm also looking forward to spectating this time as well.
Thanks for the wishes
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 05:14:44 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 05:14:44 PM
Full details and times are on this link below.
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-brands-hatch-4/
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-brands-hatch-4/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2020, 05:15:30 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2020, 05:15:30 PM
Ill be listening/ watching!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 31, 2020, 05:23:02 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 31, 2020, 05:23:02 PM
As Jon Said
Good luck and enjoy
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2020, 05:52:58 PM
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2020, 05:52:58 PM
Good luck sir. Show those some rotary power
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:30:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:30:14 PM
Have fun clive
Got that rear camera working yet? Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 06:51:47 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 06:51:47 PM
Hopefully we will be OK with cameras this time out.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on July 31, 2020, 07:21:43 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on July 31, 2020, 07:21:43 PM
Sorry I can't make it tomorrow I am working now. Not that luck is needed, but good luck, show them what a rotary can achieve. The line up of cars is a proper mix and should be a fun race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:36:17 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:36:17 AM
How is everyone watching the racing?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:36:17 AMCan’t find it on channels
How is everyone watching the racing?
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Looking on tsl for first time and I think it’s delayed
Showing qualifying at the mo
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:38:00 AMHa ha got my days mixed upQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:36:17 AMCan’t find it on channels
How is everyone watching the racing?
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Looking on tsl for first time and I think it’s delayed
Showing qualifying at the mo
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Thought it was 11.20 today
That’s tomorrow
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
Found it.
Qualify 10th..look how even it is!! Top 10 51/52 secs.Go on Clive!
V8 bashing!!
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Qualify 10th..look how even it is!! Top 10 51/52 secs.Go on Clive!
V8 bashing!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
Opps to excited to post link.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/3aa3e2d1fb161842301c10fab7bcf97e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
Bloody hell
That’s close
He’ll be happy with them times , he did say 3-4 seconds quicker on slicks
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That’s close
He’ll be happy with them times , he did say 3-4 seconds quicker on slicks
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Is this being livestreamed on you tube...i cant find anything!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 01:39:57 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Is this being livestreamed on you tube...i cant find anything!
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Hello John, doesn't seem to be any youtube channel for the live stream.
There was supposed to be a non stop live stream on their facebook channel but that its working either :( They were live for Qualifying
https://www.facebook.com/ClassicTouringCarRacingClub/
TSL don't appear to be doing trackside commentary either :angryfire:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 01:42:05 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 01:42:05 PM
Im on tsl...link on rx8oc for the qualify but nothing on race.
Just been redflagged.Clive was still running.
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Just been redflagged.Clive was still running.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 06:19:50 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 06:19:50 PM
How did it go Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 06:22:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 06:19:50 PMI’ve been thinking the same
How did it go Clive?
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Clive must be purving over all the other race cars for a few hours
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 07:03:52 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 06:19:50 PM
How did it go Clive?
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Here is Qualifying
https://youtu.be/ZlrIvwQEWv4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on August 01, 2020, 07:12:58 PM
Post by: jinx on August 01, 2020, 07:12:58 PM
Results showed 8th in the race but that was almost a stroke of luck as the two leaders slammed each other into the pit wall on the same lap Clive asked a little much of Christine in order to overtake the very fast Audi TT he was chasing, which had been baulked as an ex BTCC Vauxhall scythed through the pack from a pit lane start. We were watching from the grandstand but 'predictably' the entire tank slapper that resulted was behind a line of hoardings for something or other so all we saw was the Toyota he had been in front of appearing first, then Clive running slower. He had the cameras running so I dare say the in car footage will appear here. Three paracetamol for the muscle strain from wrestling the wayward car back in the right direction were prescribed...I dare say he is still lying in a darkened room replaying the race.
Anything else would steal his thunder (sic). I'm sure he'll post up later.
Anything else would steal his thunder (sic). I'm sure he'll post up later.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
Here's a video of the race, On count back with the two that took each other out they gave me 8th
I have a couple of ideas to try and get more speed tomorrow "if they work!"
https://www.facebook.com/HelloMySuperCar/videos/325862455451968/?t=2389
I have a couple of ideas to try and get more speed tomorrow "if they work!"
https://www.facebook.com/HelloMySuperCar/videos/325862455451968/?t=2389
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 07:39:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 07:39:54 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/e86b5b9095b5841e3a4ca1c779814979.jpg)
Saturday night, pork ribs and triple cooked chips in the oven, can of ice cold pistonhead and Clive on the big screen
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Saturday night, pork ribs and triple cooked chips in the oven, can of ice cold pistonhead and Clive on the big screen
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
What time tomoz..im working doh.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 07:57:02 PM
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 07:57:02 PM
Up again on 11.20pm :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 08:11:34 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 08:11:34 PM
Quote from: clive on August 01, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
Here's a video of the race, On count back with the two that took each other out they gave me 8th
I have a couple of ideas to try and get more speed tomorrow "if they work!"
https://www.facebook.com/HelloMySuperCar/videos/325862455451968/?t=2389
Where did you find that Clive? The link I had for the live stream was on the Classic Touring Car Racing Club Facebook page. This is on My Super Car's facebook page :dontknow:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
A ford anglia in the grid !
I’m in love
The world needs more rotary 105e’s
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I’m in love
The world needs more rotary 105e’s
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 08:38:18 PM
Post by: clive on August 01, 2020, 08:38:18 PM
Try this one, play from 15 mins into the video to view the race.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159758451456909/wp/719223002202365/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159758451456909/wp/719223002202365/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 08:44:17 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: clive on August 01, 2020, 08:38:18 PM
Try this one, play from 15 mins into the video to view the race.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159758451456909/wp/719223002202365/
Here i've edited it and uploaded it to your channel :)
https://youtu.be/bBdr9m1MPdA
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:13:10 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:13:10 PM
Quote from: Prototype on August 01, 2020, 08:44:17 PMFair play to youQuote from: clive on August 01, 2020, 08:38:18 PM
Try this one, play from 15 mins into the video to view the race.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159758451456909/wp/719223002202365/
Here i've edited it and uploaded it to your channel :)
https://youtu.be/bBdr9m1MPdA
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
That skyline has some serious hp
Hp wins races.
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Hp wins races.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:21:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 09:14:19 PMThere was one at Bedford track day which was 550 BHP
That skyline has some serious hp
Hp wins races.
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But , fair play to the car , I struggled to catch him through the tight bends too
They hold on very well
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
That was awesome coverage!!
Clive always goes better in Race 2 have a good sleep Champ!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 05:46:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 05:46:24 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 09:14:19 PMYup he’s got some squirt
That skyline has some serious hp
Hp wins races.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 07:43:14 AM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 07:43:14 AM
The Skyline has a 2.8 engine and his profession is mapping.
20 years ago I knew a guy who spent 26K to get a 2.8 short block into his Skyline.
As you will have seen from times its a very competative close grid and and whilst I will always want to go quicker I was pleased and supprised to see 1.602 off pole with a 52.899614
Track had changed by the race and was very very dirty which was why I was cautious 1st corner and I simply didn't find the grip I found in qually.
Still learning these new slicks so I am going to evenly dump 2lbs out of the tyres and also try 2nd out of Druids to give more initial acceleration but this may be negated by having to employ an extra gear change ---------------got to try somthing to get her up n running faster today (hopefully)
See you on the ice at 11.20 this morning.
20 years ago I knew a guy who spent 26K to get a 2.8 short block into his Skyline.
As you will have seen from times its a very competative close grid and and whilst I will always want to go quicker I was pleased and supprised to see 1.602 off pole with a 52.899614
Track had changed by the race and was very very dirty which was why I was cautious 1st corner and I simply didn't find the grip I found in qually.
Still learning these new slicks so I am going to evenly dump 2lbs out of the tyres and also try 2nd out of Druids to give more initial acceleration but this may be negated by having to employ an extra gear change ---------------got to try somthing to get her up n running faster today (hopefully)
See you on the ice at 11.20 this morning.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 07:51:54 AM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 07:51:54 AM
You should all like the quallyfying in car , as I follow the Paul Radishish Australian V8 supercar and get him, he admited after he know I was quicker, but didn't want to let me by. Pleased I could live with him, because this car is a consistent winner in Thunder Saloons
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 08:36:56 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 08:36:56 AM
Well done Clive. Great laptimes and no disgrace coming 8th in that company!
Good luck today. I know you'll want to improve on your result, but don't end up in the pit wall like those two yesterday! That video coverage of the race was great to watch, but sad to see the ending for those two. Glad to see drivers both OK though.
Will be watching and wishing you well at 11.20.
Good luck today. I know you'll want to improve on your result, but don't end up in the pit wall like those two yesterday! That video coverage of the race was great to watch, but sad to see the ending for those two. Glad to see drivers both OK though.
Will be watching and wishing you well at 11.20.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 10:22:44 AM
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 10:22:44 AM
Yep good luck and have fun!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
TSL up and running, but nothing on screen yet.........
:happy1:
:happy1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
And we are off! Clive up to 5th after 1st lap!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:32:24 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:32:24 AM
Darn, just got overtaken by Vauxhall Vectra!
6th now
6th now
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:33:51 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:33:51 AM
That Vectra is flying, closing fast on 4th..
Now 4th... ;)
Now 4th... ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:34:32 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:34:32 AM
BMW E36 on Clive's tail.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:35:07 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:35:07 AM
4m 30s to go
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
Leading car dropped down, Clive back to 5th!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
Beemer droppe d down, but now Escort onto Clive
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:39:06 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:39:06 AM
Darn, Escort is trying hard. one or 2 laps to go.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:39:46 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:39:46 AM
Back markers ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
WOW finished 5th but we didn't see him cross the line. Dreadful camera work lol.
Well done Clive, an amazing drive :sign0098:
Well done Clive, an amazing drive :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:47:02 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:47:02 AM
5th - lookd liked quite a race!
Best lap 53.7s
50.07s behind winner, the BMW E36 M3 3200 that came storming past Clive.
Clive , you should be well pleased with 5th in that company, well done :13:
Best lap 53.7s
50.07s behind winner, the BMW E36 M3 3200 that came storming past Clive.
Clive , you should be well pleased with 5th in that company, well done :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Post by: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
WOW finished 5th but we didn't see him cross the line. Dreadful camera work lol.
Well done Clive, an amazing drive :sign0098:
Darn, was it live on youtube? I only found it on TSL Timing
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 11:59:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 11:59:11 AM
How did you watch it?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 12:12:41 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 12:12:41 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 02, 2020, 11:47:55 AMQuote from: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
WOW finished 5th but we didn't see him cross the line. Dreadful camera work lol.
Well done Clive, an amazing drive :sign0098:
Darn, was it live on youtube? I only found it on TSL Timing
No it was on a facebook page. Just editing it will post in a few moments.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
Missed it all working
ill watch vid when done.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/82b36bab446a455fda0d7322eb7108fc.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 12:34:52 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 02, 2020, 12:34:52 PM
Here is the race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVi--3EI7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVi--3EI7A
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 12:36:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 12:36:46 PM
That’s a brilliant result
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 01:07:25 PM
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 01:07:25 PM
That vid was awesome! Commentator epic!!
I think you should stick with this series Clive its got more pezazz!
Youve won Nippon twice and all they do is moan when you win!
Awesome to have a pop at this series its next level! great result! 
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I think you should stick with this series Clive its got more pezazz!
Youve won Nippon twice and all they do is moan when you win!
Awesome to have a pop at this series its next level!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
Well done Clive enjoyed watching that.
Now I bet the question in your head is, how can I can catch the guys at the front?
1. More boost
2. Less weight (the car not you)
3. Gear box/dog box/sequential/voodoo
4. One more rotor
5. 2 more rotors
6. More aero (these can be bought at the shop, 3 for £1.50)
7. More grip?
8. I'm out of ideas now
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enjoyed watching that.Now I bet the question in your head is, how can I can catch the guys at the front?
1. More boost
2. Less weight (the car not you
) 3. Gear box/dog box/sequential/voodoo
4. One more rotor
5. 2 more rotors
6. More aero (these can be bought at the shop, 3 for £1.50)
7. More grip?
8. I'm out of ideas now
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
Just watched it on you tube
I know when Clive says that this class they basically turn up like race teams ...//
It only really hit home watching the video and actually seeing the articulated trailers , buses motor homes etc in the pit area .
To be fair to you Clive , simply getting on the grid with such cars is impressive enough , however , your result is pretty impeccable .
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I know when Clive says that this class they basically turn up like race teams ...//
It only really hit home watching the video and actually seeing the articulated trailers , buses motor homes etc in the pit area .
To be fair to you Clive , simply getting on the grid with such cars is impressive enough , however , your result is pretty impeccable .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Great race Clive, thoroughly enjoyed your little peep back at the vectra.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:17:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:17:56 PM
First up Huge thanks for the support above, it really does help :great: :great:
Probably the best thing is I came home with a car 100% ready to go for the next outing and I know I probably should be over the moon with the results, but found it frustrating that I couldn't find the grip off the track I found in qualifying and trust me I drove my socks off trying to go faster :(.
I haven’t seen the race yet, so I don’t know what you have seen, but In today’s race the BMW that was hunting me down eventually spun up at Druids! The quick Colin Voyce Escort behind took note that I was obviously running wide for a reason, unfortunately the BMW didn’t and spun on the small line of oil that was on the bend with no oil flags ;).
Colin had a chat with me after and told he could see I was on the limit of my tyres and as he put it, over drove the car in an effort to beat me, but couldn’t . I reminded him that the last time we raced together was in 1979 with him in a quick Anglia and me in a MK1 Escort, so at least he had some idea I could actually drive ::).
What you all don’t know is that I had a couple of issues, first I was shown the naughty boy warning board, so alternative my lines to stay 100% within track limits, then I was shown a 5 second penalty board!! I have to say , both of which broke my concentration slightly.I went straight up to see the clerk of the course after to find the penalties were for car 5 which was nowhere near me :violent1:!
Anyway, yes some of the quicker cars dropped out, but as they say, to finish first, first, you have finish, so I will !
One other thing that became evident is with all the stickers on the car, people think I am all sponsored up, but you all know better. With a sponsor and something other than a £50 gearbox fitted, I may actually be faster and be able to compete with the front runners properly----where's that lottery ticket :)
Probably the best thing is I came home with a car 100% ready to go for the next outing and I know I probably should be over the moon with the results, but found it frustrating that I couldn't find the grip off the track I found in qualifying and trust me I drove my socks off trying to go faster :(.
I haven’t seen the race yet, so I don’t know what you have seen, but In today’s race the BMW that was hunting me down eventually spun up at Druids! The quick Colin Voyce Escort behind took note that I was obviously running wide for a reason, unfortunately the BMW didn’t and spun on the small line of oil that was on the bend with no oil flags ;).
Colin had a chat with me after and told he could see I was on the limit of my tyres and as he put it, over drove the car in an effort to beat me, but couldn’t . I reminded him that the last time we raced together was in 1979 with him in a quick Anglia and me in a MK1 Escort, so at least he had some idea I could actually drive ::).
What you all don’t know is that I had a couple of issues, first I was shown the naughty boy warning board, so alternative my lines to stay 100% within track limits, then I was shown a 5 second penalty board!! I have to say , both of which broke my concentration slightly.I went straight up to see the clerk of the course after to find the penalties were for car 5 which was nowhere near me :violent1:!
Anyway, yes some of the quicker cars dropped out, but as they say, to finish first, first, you have finish, so I will !
One other thing that became evident is with all the stickers on the car, people think I am all sponsored up, but you all know better. With a sponsor and something other than a £50 gearbox fitted, I may actually be faster and be able to compete with the front runners properly----where's that lottery ticket :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Great race Clive, thoroughly enjoyed your little peep back at the vectra.
Didn't want to make it easy and besides by making him work for it he may have fallen off because of having to work for it :)),
As I said to Phillip yesterday god knows what that ex Plato car cost when you consider it probably had a 5 Mill budget behind it what it was in BTCC!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:24:07 PM
Post by: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:24:07 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
Well done Clive
Now I bet the question in your head is, how can I can catch the guys at the front?
1. More boost
2. Less weight (the car not you
3. Gear box/dog box/sequential/voodoo
4. One more rotor
5. 2 more rotors
6. More aero (these can be bought at the shop, 3 for £1.50)
7. More grip?
8. I'm out of ideas now
If people are right and a sequential box is worth 2 seconds plus, that would put the car right on the money ;).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:20:25 PMDo you know if the btcc car ran tuned versions of the stock displacement engines, or did they run summat special coz that thing fliesQuote from: Jamie R on August 02, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Great race Clive, thoroughly enjoyed your little peep back at the vectra.
Didn't want to make it easy and besides by making him work for it he may have fallen off because of having to work for it :)),
As I said to Phillip yesterday god knows what that ex Plato car cost when you consider it probably had a 5 Mill budget behind it what it was in BTCC!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 09:04:25 PM
Post by: boosted on August 02, 2020, 09:04:25 PM
Pitlane start too. Vid was impressive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 09:07:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 09:07:17 PM
Quote from: clive on August 02, 2020, 08:17:56 PMClive
First up Huge thanks for the support above, it really does help :great: :great:
Probably the best thing is I came home with a car 100% ready to go for the next outing and I know I probably should be over the moon with the results, but found it frustrating that I couldn't find the grip off the track I found in qualifying and trust me I drove my socks off trying to go faster :(.
I haven’t seen the race yet, so I don’t know what you have seen, but In today’s race the BMW that was hunting me down eventually spun up at Druids! The quick Colin Voyce Escort behind took note that I was obviously running wide for a reason, unfortunately the BMW didn’t and spun on the small line of oil that was on the bend with no oil flags ;).
Colin had a chat with me after and told he could see I was on the limit of my tyres and as he put it, over drove the car in an effort to beat me, but couldn’t . I reminded him that the last time we raced together was in 1979 with him in a quick Anglia and me in a MK1 Escort, so at least he had some idea I could actually drive ::).
What you all don’t know is that I had a couple of issues, first I was shown the naughty boy warning board, so alternative my lines to stay 100% within track limits, then I was shown a 5 second penalty board!! I have to say , both of which broke my concentration slightly.I went straight up to see the clerk of the course after to find the penalties were for car 5 which was nowhere near me :violent1:!
Anyway, yes some of the quicker cars dropped out, but as they say, to finish first, first, you have finish, so I will !
One other thing that became evident is with all the stickers on the car, people think I am all sponsored up, but you all know better. With a sponsor and something other than a £50 gearbox fitted, I may actually be faster and be able to compete with the front runners properly----where's that lottery ticket :)
I guess if you play with the big boys and they realise you don’t have sponsorship .
The more chance you have of gaining some considering yours in the top third of results ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2020, 06:38:50 AM
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2020, 06:38:50 AM
Nice, very nice. Good job sir
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 07:42:16 AM
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 07:42:16 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 09:07:17 PM
Clive
I guess if you play with the big boys and they realise you don’t have sponsorship .
The more chance you have of gaining some considering yours in the top third of results ?
I did consider asking someone to photo shop the stickers off the car, apart from the RB stickers on the sides and the roof, so I could show avaliable advertising space.
As you can see below, Andrew (Jinx) did help putting these proposals together (see attachments) but they have brought nothing so far.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on August 03, 2020, 09:15:07 AM
Post by: rote8 on August 03, 2020, 09:15:07 AM
So glad you got a good result in such exalted company and on a budget a fraction of some of those out there.
Colin (Voycetune) was a one time customer of mine and I installed the CCTV at his Billericay premises. I think maybe I told you the story of his Mountune developed engine and what it cost so little wonder he was quick. His son Stuart was also at one time racing a Beemer.
Colin (Voycetune) was a one time customer of mine and I installed the CCTV at his Billericay premises. I think maybe I told you the story of his Mountune developed engine and what it cost so little wonder he was quick. His son Stuart was also at one time racing a Beemer.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 12:32:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 12:32:18 PM
If you are at the limit of your tyres, how exactly do you increase the limit of your tyre?
Do you need a wider tyre? Or is there other things you can do to get more out of your current tyre to make them work better? Would that be more downforce and less weight?
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Do you need a wider tyre? Or is there other things you can do to get more out of your current tyre to make them work better? Would that be more downforce and less weight?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2020, 12:59:28 PM
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2020, 12:59:28 PM
Congratulations Clive, an absolutely brilliant result when up against that competition (and bigger budgets).
A lap time of sub 53 sec in qualifying, and getting 53.XX sec laps in the race is quite an achievement :notworthy:
A lap time of sub 53 sec in qualifying, and getting 53.XX sec laps in the race is quite an achievement :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 02:22:33 PM
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 02:22:33 PM
https://youtu.be/kI7aR6sYcpE?t=650
Video's are starting to appear, no wonder the Vecra was Quick it was part of the BTCC Super Touring era which got dumped because of crazy costs.
Video's are starting to appear, no wonder the Vecra was Quick it was part of the BTCC Super Touring era which got dumped because of crazy costs.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2020, 02:45:08 PM
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2020, 02:45:08 PM
Hmm, that car in Class C and yours in Class A ?? How can that be? Quickest laps of the entire field by quite a massive 0.64s.
Good video though, exciting to watch. Nice, clean driving too.
Good video though, exciting to watch. Nice, clean driving too.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2020, 02:50:23 PM
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2020, 02:50:23 PM
Never thought id say it..quite fancy a spin in a vectra lol...( that 1).
Had a few back in the day..quite dependable £500 cars..vectra sri
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Had a few back in the day..quite dependable £500 cars..vectra sri
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 03:51:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 03:51:02 PM
Quote from: clive on August 03, 2020, 02:22:33 PMI just love listening to the on boards when they're banging through the gears, especially on the down shifts
https://youtu.be/kI7aR6sYcpE?t=650
Video's are starting to appear, no wonder the Vecra was Quick it was part of the BTCC Super Touring era which got dumped because of crazy costs.
If a sequential box is worth 2 seconds a lap then that puts you 1.4 seconds a lap quick than the fast lap
Best get saving Clive, one big expenditure on a gear box still won't be equal to the total sum you have spent so far
James was asking me if I was interested in a GSR gear box from one of his friends in boston... Sadly I cannot buy one of those beauties right now, maybe in a year or 3
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 04:00:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 04:00:39 PM
In fact looking at the best lap times etc, 2 seconds a lap would put you right up there with the front runners, although 3 tenths still behind that vectors, although I bet he had that thing set to 11 and the engine needs a refresh of bearings for the next race
I must say, winning is a great feeling in any sport, however I bet starting at the back of the pack and driving through to the front is extremely exhilarating and also tiring(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/ebee33819ced9d16124ef012ec6f4082.jpg)
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I must say, winning is a great feeling in any sport, however I bet starting at the back of the pack and driving through to the front is extremely exhilarating and also tiring(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/ebee33819ced9d16124ef012ec6f4082.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
Post by: clive on August 03, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
Worth a little look from around 4 minutes in
https://youtu.be/0Zxf7gxs9Vc?t=302
Pleased I looked at the first one, as I now know why I got such a tank slapper on behind the TT. It was the car dumping fluid on the track all the drivers were complaining about.
https://youtu.be/0Zxf7gxs9Vc?t=302
Pleased I looked at the first one, as I now know why I got such a tank slapper on behind the TT. It was the car dumping fluid on the track all the drivers were complaining about.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 09:30:01 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: clive on August 03, 2020, 07:45:19 PMAmazing
Worth a little look from around 4 minutes in
https://youtu.be/0Zxf7gxs9Vc?t=302
Pleased I looked at the first one, as I now know why I got such a tank slapper on behind the TT. It was the car dumping fluid on the track all the drivers were complaining about.
There’s me thinking , you don’t need a sequential it’s sound like you have one
Then , It’s not you
Yes you need one
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 03, 2020, 11:10:35 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 03, 2020, 11:10:35 PM
Here is Clive's in-car Qualifying video
https://youtu.be/QAHc_EPV_IQ
https://youtu.be/QAHc_EPV_IQ
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 04, 2020, 08:10:40 AM
Post by: clive on August 04, 2020, 08:10:40 AM
Many thanks Philip :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
That Ford was smoking badly that shouldve been black flagged. Grear vid. Car is going great!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:14:45 AM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:14:45 AM
Looking at the vid that Falcon its not burning it out exhaust its coming out the engine. Out of front wheel arches and underneath car..massive oil leak onto manifold or something. Silmilar paint job to yours Clives too..lucky you didnt get black flagged.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 04, 2020, 12:21:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 04, 2020, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:14:45 AMI would say that it looks like tyre smoke from rubbing. When they hit the bottom of the hill after the first bend it really compresses down on the tyres by the looks of it and loads of smoke, and whenever there's any sort of bumps and also under braking?
Looking at the vid that Falcon its not burning it out exhaust its coming out the engine. Out of front wheel arches and underneath car..massive oil leak onto manifold or something. Silmilar paint job to yours Clives too..lucky you didnt get black flagged.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 12:27:55 PM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 12:27:55 PM
Tyre smoke is white though, thats defo blue .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 04, 2020, 12:27:55 PMI'm sure anyone behind Clive will say his car is throwing oil out too though with him using premix and throwing it onto everyone's windscreens
Tyre smoke is white though, thats defo blue .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 12:53:36 PM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 12:53:36 PM
Seemed random tome..defo not healthy what ever it was...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/cec55e22d5967c2f93af755aacb1e359.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/1f70877b5114d8f92baef5e4a2f0ae72.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/764c9ac629b8183a60ca4fa96aa8be06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/b1da9bc503d917a86b7733c5d3db76c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/7ea232051beebf46108935ab255d0f86.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/dd3ed43c5cab12498cd437a21dd40f0e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200804/d404683d3d6adc67d4821da8d8aa09d5.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 10:20:22 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 10:20:22 PM
Race 1 from In Car. Sorry no rear camera again so it's going in the bin.
https://youtu.be/UVdkwj8LBPw
https://youtu.be/UVdkwj8LBPw
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:35:17 PM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:35:17 PM
Woohoo! Well done Philip!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 10:36:55 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 04, 2020, 10:35:17 PM
Woohoo! Well done Philip!
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Thanks John. Just found this from one of the Brit cars that crashed on Saturday causing the Red Flag
https://youtu.be/pula--gGhzk?t=972
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 11:08:08 PM
Post by: boosted on August 04, 2020, 11:08:08 PM
Ohh id seen that did wonder if same race.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 11:14:21 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 04, 2020, 11:08:08 PM
Ohh id seen that did wonder if same race.
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No sorry I stand corrected that is a different car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 11:15:24 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 04, 2020, 11:15:24 PM
Race 2 In-car from Clive's
https://youtu.be/W3Dw3l6_38w
https://youtu.be/W3Dw3l6_38w
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 05, 2020, 12:22:09 AM
Post by: Casey on August 05, 2020, 12:22:09 AM
Well done Philip :icon_thumleft:
Race 1, 11m30s ??? :notworthy: well held Clive :icon_thumleft:
Race 1, 11m30s ??? :notworthy: well held Clive :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 05, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
Post by: clive on August 05, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 05, 2020, 12:22:09 AM
Well done Philip :icon_thumleft:
Race 1, 11m30s ??? :notworthy: well held Clive :icon_thumleft:
Beat myself up for nearly loseing the car. The move was completly planned and I thought it had caught me out------------now I have seen the videos I know it was fluid coming out of the Audi TT that I slipped on ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 05, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Post by: clive on August 05, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Found this clip, nobody can’t say I wasn’t trying on the opening lap when you see the front and rear on the limit on cold tyres !
https://www.facebook.com/100002060182040/videos/3251748974903743/?t=180
Couple of nice pictures have come up.
Must investigate if some camber needs to come off the rear now I have seen the Paddock pic (inside rear wheel)
https://www.facebook.com/100002060182040/videos/3251748974903743/?t=180
Couple of nice pictures have come up.
Must investigate if some camber needs to come off the rear now I have seen the Paddock pic (inside rear wheel)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 05, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 05, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Good going
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 08:40:02 AM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 08:40:02 AM
The response to Saturdays Live Stream was so positive that Freesports have offered to stream and record the next race meeting at Snetterton.
Brands Hatch TV Schedule:
Freesports :
Saturday (8th) at 1pm
Then repeated..
Sunday 9th August 8pm
Wednesday 12th August 7pm
Sunday 16th August 5pm
Sky Channel.... 422
Virgin Channel.... 553
Freeview, BT, Channel.... 64
Brands Hatch TV Schedule:
Freesports :
Saturday (8th) at 1pm
Then repeated..
Sunday 9th August 8pm
Wednesday 12th August 7pm
Sunday 16th August 5pm
Sky Channel.... 422
Virgin Channel.... 553
Freeview, BT, Channel.... 64
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
That's great news
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 11:15:22 AM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 11:15:22 AM
Change of time for tomorrow
Brands Hatch TV Schedule:
Freesports :
Saturday (8th) at1pm Now at 12.00
Brands Hatch TV Schedule:
Freesports :
Saturday (8th) at
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2020, 02:06:09 PM
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2020, 02:06:09 PM
That was good to watch again :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
Look mum, its on air bags ;D (look at the cap between the splitter and the track !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Lol..bet Steve is looking!! No Clive dont break another 1!
Thats awesome pic!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2020, 08:15:24 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 10, 2020, 08:15:24 PM
Totally agree
Lovely photo
Bloody low , how do you get it on and off your trailer ?
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Lovely photo
Bloody low , how do you get it on and off your trailer ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:17:49 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:17:49 PM
Bottom of Paddock under full compression, guess what, I ground the splitter away---------again. >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 08:24:36 PM
Post by: Casey on August 10, 2020, 08:24:36 PM
That is a great picture :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:30:02 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2020, 08:30:02 PM
There's been some excellent pictures appearing :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 03:45:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2020, 03:45:56 PM
Been doing a little bit to the race car, getting ready for Brands .
Started to look at getting some weight out of the car. (cheapest way of getting the car to go faster)
Took some more sounding deadning out of the car, chopped some more out of the doors, a big box section on the passenger floor has now gone plus the lower rear door locks and all the door rubbers. Total 7 kilo.
I have mailed a company about a pair front doors in fiberglass and even though my doors are chopped out like mad they still weigh 15 kilo each, the fiberglass ones would save 20 kilo.
Philip sorted out a new rear camera and we should now have some better rear shots as the camera is now mounted outside off the body.
Started to look at getting some weight out of the car. (cheapest way of getting the car to go faster)
Took some more sounding deadning out of the car, chopped some more out of the doors, a big box section on the passenger floor has now gone plus the lower rear door locks and all the door rubbers. Total 7 kilo.
I have mailed a company about a pair front doors in fiberglass and even though my doors are chopped out like mad they still weigh 15 kilo each, the fiberglass ones would save 20 kilo.
Philip sorted out a new rear camera and we should now have some better rear shots as the camera is now mounted outside off the body.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
7kg is a good start! Be even greater if you get those doors.
Will that include getting rid of the glass in the doors also?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
Could prob get a few more kilos out of wiring...marine fuse n relay box....and all immobilser stuff removed.
Do over winter not inbetween races
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 01, 2020, 02:02:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 01, 2020, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 01, 2020, 12:59:10 PMThink you should rewire it completely, lol. All new cables haha
Could prob get a few more kilos out of wiring...marine fuse n relay box....and all immobilser stuff removed.
Do over winter not inbetween races
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2020, 04:49:22 PM
Post by: boosted on September 01, 2020, 04:49:22 PM
Ha ha been there done that already...2nd go got some ideas using a marine fuse and relay box. Smarter simpler neater solution. Just have to mark the adaptronic ecu in and out eh Clive b4 disassembly
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 07, 2020, 08:39:34 AM
Post by: clive on September 07, 2020, 08:39:34 AM
Time Table is out for Brands :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 07, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 07, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Looking forward to being trackside this weekend
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 07, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
Post by: Casey on September 07, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
I have purchased my ticket :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 07, 2020, 07:27:49 PM
Post by: boosted on September 07, 2020, 07:27:49 PM
Me 2.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 09, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 09, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
If you know how to use a Virtual Audio Cable and record a live stream please apply :sign0085:
Is anyone able to record the commentary for me please this weekend so I can add it to Clive's videos. I am not going to be near a PC so will be unable to do it.
Thank you.
Philip
Is anyone able to record the commentary for me please this weekend so I can add it to Clive's videos. I am not going to be near a PC so will be unable to do it.
Thank you.
Philip
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 01:19:22 PM
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 01:19:22 PM
Just completed my virtual breifing for Brands on Saturday and with the picture below Now I know where the track is😉, just got to work out the direction😁
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on September 10, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
Post by: steve phillips on September 10, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
Hang on a minute,,,,,,
None of those are rotary powered so surely they are all NOT ACCEPTABLE
None of those are rotary powered so surely they are all NOT ACCEPTABLE
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2020, 02:14:13 PM
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2020, 02:14:13 PM
I had did an online briefing other day this 1 tickled me.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200910/4faccc30c3a21f5aedd78efac3257d45.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: steve phillips on September 10, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
Hang on a minute,,,,,,
None of those are rotary powered so surely they are all NOT ACCEPTABLE
Does that mean I can ignor the rules (like I normally do >:D)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 08:19:48 PM
Post by: clive on September 10, 2020, 08:19:48 PM
Jon's picture resized
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2020, 08:22:38 PM
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2020, 08:22:38 PM
Cheers ok on tapatalk...
I make lots of noise!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: LINAS on September 10, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
Post by: LINAS on September 10, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
Enjoy Clive ...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 07:46:19 AM
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 07:46:19 AM
Quote from: LINAS on September 10, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
Enjoy Clive ...
Thank you
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
Looks like a dry day tomorrow Clive, heading down to swanley in an hour or so , see ya bright n early
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 01:52:04 PM
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 01:52:04 PM
Getting set to leave too...is there life outside of Wiltshire...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
There is Jim but not as we know it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 01:54:19 PM
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 01:54:19 PM
Rush rush rush..bloody balljoints lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 01:56:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 01:56:10 PM
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I feel sorry for don and how he is discriminated against
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 11, 2020, 03:06:16 PM
Post by: Casey on September 11, 2020, 03:06:16 PM
See you guys there tomorrow :)
Not sure what time I'll arrive, but I'll aim to get down in time for Clive's Qually session at 9am :icon_thumleft:
Not sure what time I'll arrive, but I'll aim to get down in time for Clive's Qually session at 9am :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
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Struggling to pass the time waiting for father in law at the services
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 07:08:44 PM
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2020, 07:08:44 PM
Lol... we gotta camp on Haynesford Hill.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
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Struggling to pass the time waiting for father in law at the services
You was obviously looking at bums while you were waiting, hang on, one was a man :57:
You wont miss the car tomorrow, its the first one on the entrance to the pits.
We will be called down for qually around 8.30 , see you all then :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:24:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:23:20 PMBums ? Where ? that red car caught my attentionQuote from: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
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Struggling to pass the time waiting for father in law at the services
You was obviously looking at bums while you were waiting, hang on, one was a man :57:
You wont miss the car tomorrow, its the first one on the entrance to the pits.
We will be called down for qually around 8.30 , see you all then :icon_thumleft:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:44:40 PM
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:24:29 PMQuote from: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:23:20 PMBums ? Where ? that red car caught my attentionQuote from: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
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Struggling to pass the time waiting for father in law at the services
You was obviously looking at bums while you were waiting, hang on, one was a man :57:
You wont miss the car tomorrow, its the first one on the entrance to the pits.
We will be called down for qually around 8.30 , see you all then :icon_thumleft:
Ah, but that's another bum :57: :57:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
Post by: clive on September 11, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
We are off again 🏎 - tomorrow racing at Brands Hatch with the Track Attack Race Club .
You can follow the races via https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/203752 Qualifying at 9.00. Race 1- 11.45 . Race 7- 15.40 😃
You can follow the races via https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/203752 Qualifying at 9.00. Race 1- 11.45 . Race 7- 15.40 😃
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:47:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 11, 2020, 08:47:43 PM
Your "pit crew" will be there. Bright n early and fat from premier inn breakfast
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 12, 2020, 06:43:24 AM
Post by: clive on September 12, 2020, 06:43:24 AM
:bravo_2:
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Post by: Jamie R on September 12, 2020, 08:39:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 12, 2020, 08:39:13 PM
Some good results today Clive, all adds to the total.
Great day, thoroughly enjoyed my virgin visit to brands.
Got some good shots I'll post them over the weekend.
P.s. thanks Malcolm for the use of your posh lens
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Great day, thoroughly enjoyed my virgin visit to brands.
Got some good shots I'll post them over the weekend.
P.s. thanks Malcolm for the use of your posh lens
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 09:19:46 AM
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 09:19:46 AM
Huge thanks to my pit crew yesterday. :bravo_2:
The event for me was about Tyres, Tyres and Tyres
De-briefed myself last night and realise the car never felt as good in the races as it did in qualifying, now know I need to replace my new soft Tyres and replace with mediums, the new softs worked fine at Snetterton but as Brands is so hard on tyres they did not work for me!
Got to be positive, Pole and a fastest lap 53.627 which was less than a second away from last time out on slicks ! (52.899)
In the second race with a hotter track, I asked too much from the tyres too quuick in an effort to get away at the front a fried my tyres and then basically tried to race on chewing gum :(
Here is a video that's already appeared from Rod Birley's car!
I now know 100% I was right not to move as I would have taken both of us out, proper, this way I came home with a car!!
https://youtu.be/mYQCZrCodIc
Snetterton this coming weekend, back on slicks :00123101:
The event for me was about Tyres, Tyres and Tyres
De-briefed myself last night and realise the car never felt as good in the races as it did in qualifying, now know I need to replace my new soft Tyres and replace with mediums, the new softs worked fine at Snetterton but as Brands is so hard on tyres they did not work for me!
Got to be positive, Pole and a fastest lap 53.627 which was less than a second away from last time out on slicks ! (52.899)
In the second race with a hotter track, I asked too much from the tyres too quuick in an effort to get away at the front a fried my tyres and then basically tried to race on chewing gum :(
Here is a video that's already appeared from Rod Birley's car!
I now know 100% I was right not to move as I would have taken both of us out, proper, this way I came home with a car!!
https://youtu.be/mYQCZrCodIc
Snetterton this coming weekend, back on slicks :00123101:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
Had a great weekend! Lots of fun!
Yep back markers came into play..wouldve been a big crash if youd tried to move over! Wisdom!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2020, 09:28:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2020, 09:28:56 AM
Interesting to see he's running a H pattern box too.
I was expecting something a bit more posh from the Honda
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2020, 09:34:01 AM
Post by: boosted on September 13, 2020, 09:34:01 AM
Theres so much available for those boxes you can pretty much spec all the gear ratios and final drives and build a perfect gearbox for whatever circuit your on. Carbon fibre synchros too. And a myriad of lsd choices. Wouldnt be suprised if the car was running a k24 frankenstein engine too.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 09:50:41 AM
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 09:50:41 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 13, 2020, 09:28:56 AM
Interesting to see he's running a H pattern box too.
I was expecting something a bit more posh from the Honda
Yes, but it was still a lots of money for the dog-box he's running, got to be worth a second a lap on my car with the speed you can change gear. (I had a dog box in a car years ago so I know they are a huge advantage)
My problem out of the Druids hairpin was the car just dropped off boost on exit and had to wait for it to fire up again .
I would have liked to run a wider line but if you look on the ground you will see there had been a oil down
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 13, 2020, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 13, 2020, 10:02:00 AM
Yeh those Honda gear boxes are great, with Hondas being so popular in racing there's been loads of money pumped into strong gear boxes. The drag cars pushing 1200hp still use the H pattern dog boxes
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2020, 10:32:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 13, 2020, 10:32:23 AM
A few shots from the day....
I didnt want to flood your page with a zillion photos, so heres 10 of my fav.
I didnt want to flood your page with a zillion photos, so heres 10 of my fav.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
Jamie, Malcolm, dont worry about posting a zillion pics, especially track ones, because many times they have let me see how the cars behaving :great: .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 12:10:26 PM
Post by: clive on September 13, 2020, 12:10:26 PM
This shows the type of money I'm up against next weekend ???
Geartronics paddle shifter nearly complete
Geartronics paddle shifter nearly complete
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 13, 2020, 02:18:20 PM
Post by: Casey on September 13, 2020, 02:18:20 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the day. Good weather, good track action and great company. Shame about your tyre issues in the 2nd race Clive, but the first race was really exciting to watch and 2nd place was an excellent result. I've got zillions of photos to wade through, but I'm at Go Japan today and busy the next few days, with a trackday at Mallory Park on Wednesday. I'll get some pics up eventually ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:03:27 PM
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:03:27 PM
Some photos from Race 1:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:06:11 PM
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:06:11 PM
Race 2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:07:03 PM
Post by: Casey on September 14, 2020, 10:07:03 PM
Very short video clip from Race 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55o3g-w3wbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55o3g-w3wbg
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 14, 2020, 10:57:52 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 14, 2020, 10:57:52 PM
Here you go, this is Clive Haynsworth - Chris Haynsforth - Clive Haynswood - sorry I mean Clive Haynsfirth's Mazda RX7 Race 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thqXG9OfSMY
Well done Clive!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thqXG9OfSMY
Well done Clive!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 05:05:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 05:05:02 PM
Didn't know you went by 43 different names Clive Wandsworth
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 15, 2020, 10:38:30 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 15, 2020, 10:38:30 PM
Here is Race 2
https://youtu.be/HXtRVRfhaok
https://youtu.be/HXtRVRfhaok
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 08:49:18 PM
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 08:49:18 PM
You can see the difference in grip on race 2 and the confidence gone...bring her home for some points..next 1 buddy.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2020, 07:25:44 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2020, 07:25:44 PM
All ready for Snetterton, back on slicks :great:
Saturday Qualifying 13.25 / Sunday First Race 10.30 Second 16.20 The races will be streemed live on Face Book
As for Brands turns out I had only a couple of laps left on the brake pads and they were perfect before the event! /
Had that offending tyre stripped and it was a thin strip on the beading that hadn't peeled off when it came out the machine that made it, so there's nothing wrong with the tyre after all (it was better to be safe than sorry though).
Saturday Qualifying 13.25 / Sunday First Race 10.30 Second 16.20 The races will be streemed live on Face Book
As for Brands turns out I had only a couple of laps left on the brake pads and they were perfect before the event! /
Had that offending tyre stripped and it was a thin strip on the beading that hadn't peeled off when it came out the machine that made it, so there's nothing wrong with the tyre after all (it was better to be safe than sorry though).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2020, 05:29:49 AM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2020, 05:29:49 AM
Good luck for weekend. Ill listen on FB
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2020, 05:36:24 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2020, 05:36:24 AM
Snetterton norwich way ???
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on September 18, 2020, 08:10:07 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 18, 2020, 08:10:07 PM
Good luck at the weekend, is it the shortened track again?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2020, 08:18:18 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2020, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on September 18, 2020, 08:10:07 PM
Good luck at the weekend, is it the shortened track again?
Thanks Jim.
Tomorrow we mostly are doing the long track, sorry re-runs of the Fast Show kicking in ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 18, 2020, 08:25:33 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 18, 2020, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on September 18, 2020, 08:10:07 PM+1
Good luck at the weekend, is it the shortened track again?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2020, 09:36:25 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2020, 09:36:25 PM
+1
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Thanks Brad :great:
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Thanks Brad :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
If you want to watch the live stream try this link
https://www.facebook.com/247dottv/videos/346008193409889
https://www.facebook.com/247dottv/videos/346008193409889
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 20, 2020, 10:55:33 AM
Post by: boosted on September 20, 2020, 10:55:33 AM
Nice 1 just watched
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 20, 2020, 11:00:33 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 20, 2020, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: Prototype on September 20, 2020, 10:14:08 AMThanks
If you want to watch the live stream try this link
https://www.facebook.com/247dottv/videos/346008193409889
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2020, 11:07:16 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 20, 2020, 11:07:16 AM
Thats what you call a close finish for 8th ;)
Nice one Clive
Nice one Clive
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 21, 2020, 10:46:30 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 21, 2020, 10:46:30 PM
Spoiler Failure in Qualifying
https://youtu.be/JhZt803VVCA
https://youtu.be/JhZt803VVCA
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 22, 2020, 07:33:05 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 22, 2020, 07:33:05 AM
Wow
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2020, 07:36:06 AM
Post by: boosted on September 22, 2020, 07:36:06 AM
Yep indeed.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 22, 2020, 09:04:25 AM
Post by: clive on September 22, 2020, 09:04:25 AM
Really enjoyed this second race and with the level of competition I am up against the results were what I thought they would be as I was aiming for at least a top 10. Finished 8th and 9th. More importantly I found 3 seconds over the weekend.
With developments and then slicks on the car I was a huge 8 seconds faster than the last time I raced there. Getting Down to 2:09.755. Really enjoyed Racing with the Colin Voyce's Escort, racing which couldn't have been closer as we both set our fastest laps on lap 5 with my car just one thousandth of a second faster.
So much more can be done to the car and after the next race, the big old girl will go on a diet in the quest for more speed
Huge thanks to Philip for excellent editing of the video's
https://youtu.be/lD1rLDSqFto?t=90
With developments and then slicks on the car I was a huge 8 seconds faster than the last time I raced there. Getting Down to 2:09.755. Really enjoyed Racing with the Colin Voyce's Escort, racing which couldn't have been closer as we both set our fastest laps on lap 5 with my car just one thousandth of a second faster.
So much more can be done to the car and after the next race, the big old girl will go on a diet in the quest for more speed
Huge thanks to Philip for excellent editing of the video's
https://youtu.be/lD1rLDSqFto?t=90
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2020, 08:02:16 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2020, 08:02:16 AM
Here is Race 1 from Sunday. I really enjoyed watching this one.
https://youtu.be/SUtehYe1vto
https://youtu.be/SUtehYe1vto
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 23, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
Post by: Casey on September 23, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
Nice video Philip - thanks again for taking the trouble to edit and add the commentary :icon_thumleft:
Very interesting to watch from Clive's POV as, for the first race, I only saw the section from Palmer through Agostini and Hamilton, plus the Bentley straight.
Very interesting to watch from Clive's POV as, for the first race, I only saw the section from Palmer through Agostini and Hamilton, plus the Bentley straight.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 26, 2020, 08:18:04 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2020, 08:18:04 PM
If your a little bored tomorrow morning at 10am why not tune in to Sky Channel 422, Virgin 553, or Freeview 64 to watch all the action of the Classic Touring Cars last week from from Snetterton
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 10:05:59 AM
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 10:05:59 AM
Im on freesports 64...watching Scoobies rally x
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Im still watching lynden hill...
Phil collard and rob buckmaster doing rally x.
says snetterton ..i dont know.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on September 27, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 27, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
I just watched that, good race, and you have to give credit to someone willing to race a lancia replica. But no snetterton.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 12:18:52 PM
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 12:18:52 PM
Yep i watched it all. Shame about Clives races though.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 27, 2020, 03:31:16 PM
Post by: clive on September 27, 2020, 03:31:16 PM
Classic Touring Cars last week from from Snetterton - Showed race from Lydden Hill Rally Cross instead! However according to Sky channel 422 it is on at 11.00 tonight. 👍
Not sure what time it might be shown on the following channels
Virgin 553, or Freeview 64 search Classic Touring Cars 2020 from Snetterton
Not sure what time it might be shown on the following channels
Virgin 553, or Freeview 64 search Classic Touring Cars 2020 from Snetterton
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 10:01:34 AM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 10:01:34 AM
Ok finally Snetterton races - showed this morning but for those that missed it will be shown on Sunday at 5.05 on Freesports
https://www.freesports.tv/tv-schedule.html
https://www.freesports.tv/tv-schedule.html
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 10:06:43 AM
I tuned in to snetterton touring cars and watched rallycross lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 10:07:15 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 10:07:15 AM
Wished I had scrolled back now lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 12:07:47 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 12:07:47 PM
They got it right this time
Watched a tiny bit of the first race first thing this morning and saw some good footage of the RX-8 performing.
Although I still have one more race left this season at Donnington, already started looking forward to next next season and just ordered fibre front doors. These come with a full inner skin but I will cut these out making them even lighter.
Watched a tiny bit of the first race first thing this morning and saw some good footage of the RX-8 performing.
Although I still have one more race left this season at Donnington, already started looking forward to next next season and just ordered fibre front doors. These come with a full inner skin but I will cut these out making them even lighter.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 12:58:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: clive on October 02, 2020, 12:07:47 PMCarbon fibre or glass fibre ??
They got it right this time
Watched a tiny bit of the first race first thing this morning and saw some good footage of the RX-8 performing.
Although I still have one more race left this season at Donnington, already started looking forward to next next season and just ordered fibre front doors. These come with a full inner skin but I will cut these out making them even lighter.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 01:08:07 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 01:08:07 PM
Cant afford carbon :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 02:08:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 02:08:35 PM
I bet there isn't much difference in weight between carbon and glass?
Certainly a difference in price though
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 02:08:35 PMAnd rigidity........
I bet there isn't much difference in weight between carbon and glass?
Certainly a difference in price though
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Can I make a suggestion Clive? Based on my own experience of cutting the inner skins out my lotus doors.
The doors are fine when shut, but become very whippy and flimsy once opened, which can be problematic trying to shut them.
For the sake of a few grams. If you got Steve to fit some wire with an eyelet each end like on the photo below.
Do it diagonally so 2 pieces of wire in a big X per door It could help prevent them being so flimsy.
You only need like 2 or 3mm diameter steel wire, you won't notice the weight.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 06:14:34 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2020, 06:14:34 PM
Grant I would say you correct, unless they were proper prepeg carbon, its the resin that makes the weight.
Many thanks for the advice Jamie.
One of the reasons I am leaving the rear alloy doors in place is so they wibbly wobbly front doors have somthing firm to close against
Many thanks for the advice Jamie.
One of the reasons I am leaving the rear alloy doors in place is so they wibbly wobbly front doors have somthing firm to close against
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 10:37:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 10:37:53 PM
Clive just glue the doors shut and exit nasxar style, you can save a few pounds more then by losing the rear doors and all the latches
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 03, 2020, 09:21:19 AM
Post by: clive on October 03, 2020, 09:21:19 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 02, 2020, 10:37:53 PM
Clive just glue the doors shut and exit nasxar style, you can save a few pounds more then by losing the rear doors and all the latches
I could live with that but we have to have front doors that open ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2020, 06:34:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2020, 06:34:26 PM
Clive I don't suppose you managed to see what those t pieces were that you used to join the brake lines together did you?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 05, 2020, 07:20:16 PM
Post by: clive on October 05, 2020, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2020, 06:34:26 PM
Clive I don't suppose you managed to see what those t pieces were that you used to join the brake lines together did you?
Sorry I thought you were sorted. I will dig a couple out next time I am over at Steve's workshop in a couple of days time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 06, 2020, 01:55:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 06, 2020, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: clive on October 05, 2020, 07:20:16 PMThankyou Clive. The ones I got were completely wrong. Different thread sizes etcQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2020, 06:34:26 PM
Clive I don't suppose you managed to see what those t pieces were that you used to join the brake lines together did you?
Sorry I thought you were sorted. I will dig a couple out next time I am over at Steve's workshop in a couple of days time.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 10, 2020, 09:14:17 AM
Post by: clive on October 10, 2020, 09:14:17 AM
Apparently my last race @ Donnington in a couple of weeks has 40 cars on the grid 🤔, could have been worse, it could have been 75, now that would have been real exciting😁
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 10, 2020, 02:54:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 10, 2020, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: clive on October 10, 2020, 09:14:17 AMWhich series are you racing in Clive ?
Apparently my last race @ Donnington in a couple of weeks has 40 cars on the grid
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 08:31:36 AM
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 08:31:36 AM
Track Attack Wayne next Sunday.
"if" I can get a couple of good places, I think it will give me the championship for a hat trick third year.
One car of of interest will be the RX-8 engined MX-5
"if" I can get a couple of good places, I think it will give me the championship for a hat trick third year.
One car of of interest will be the RX-8 engined MX-5
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2020, 11:03:14 AM
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2020, 11:03:14 AM
Its doesnt have a catchtank on the mx5..
does handle very nice on the ohlins though. Last time i followed on circuit putting in some good times at Anglessly.
No match for Christine though.
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does handle very nice on the ohlins though. Last time i followed on circuit putting in some good times at Anglessly. No match for Christine though.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 06:31:22 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 06:31:22 PM
Quote from: clive on October 12, 2020, 08:31:36 AMIs the the one dan and his mate
Track Attack Wayne next Sunday.
"if" I can get a couple of good places, I think it will give me the championship for a hat trick third year.
One car of of interest will be the RX-8 engined MX-5
Aaron maybe ..... have bought on the RX8OC ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 12, 2020, 11:03:14 AMCould be a later engine
Its doesnt have a catchtank on the mx5..
No match for Christine though.
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Ah , hang on , don't you need one for racing ?
Remember Liam saying something about that
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 06:58:19 PM
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 06:58:19 PM
Yes his name is Aaron Bunning and yes you need a catch can.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
Post by: clive on October 12, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
After seeing Malcolm's picture @ Snetterton with the bonnet lifting more than ever, I decided to employ the set of Singular Motorsports Bonnet Louvers I had laying around.
I know the guys spent a long time developing these and they have a gurney style flap "stand up" at the front to create a low pressure dam to make the Louvers extract air.
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/rx8-03-11-bonnet-louvers-by-singular-motorsports-2261-p.asp
Also this year since the scoop when in to give the intercooler clean air, the engine has run 10degrees hotter, so I think these will solve that as well.
They come complete with a sticker to cut to and you will see Steve got to the tin snips before I got the chance to attack it and make it all wibbly wobbly ;)
I know the guys spent a long time developing these and they have a gurney style flap "stand up" at the front to create a low pressure dam to make the Louvers extract air.
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/rx8-03-11-bonnet-louvers-by-singular-motorsports-2261-p.asp
Also this year since the scoop when in to give the intercooler clean air, the engine has run 10degrees hotter, so I think these will solve that as well.
They come complete with a sticker to cut to and you will see Steve got to the tin snips before I got the chance to attack it and make it all wibbly wobbly ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 12, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
Post by: Casey on October 12, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
Looks good Clive - let's hope it works as expected :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 09:22:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 12, 2020, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: clive on October 12, 2020, 06:58:19 PMYeah that's the Guy
Yes his name is Aaron Bunning and yes you need a catch can.
Looking for a turbo kit on forums
Vents look good
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 08:29:20 AM
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 08:29:20 AM
Found Malcolm's picture that shows how much the bonnet was lifting!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 15, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 15, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
Quote from: clive on October 15, 2020, 08:29:20 AMWow
Found Malcolm's picture that shows how much the bonnet was lifting!
That's loads
Looks as if you be had a slight front impact
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 08:34:46 AM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 08:34:46 AM
Its a POWAHHR Bulge!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 10:18:15 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 10:18:15 AM
Rear wing and now bonnet, it's all being tested, if you sort the bonnet out it may affect downforce. There's no winning ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
The cars buckling up under the pressure but Clives not....fingers x for the TRIPLE champ!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
When is Donnigton? I know its far away but i got a diesel now
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 10:18:15 AM
Rear wing and now bonnet, it's all being tested, if you sort the bonnet out it may affect downforce. There's no winning ???
You may be right Jim.
However, when the rear wing collapsed the car was more of a handfull but my fastest lap was after the wing collapsed ::)
I can live with car being more difficult to drive if its quicker, in NASCAR terms "loose is fast"!
Just got to find someone who can teach me how to drive :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 07:18:17 PM
Post by: clive on October 15, 2020, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 15, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
When is Donnigton? I know its far away but i got a diesel now
Donnington is next Sunday 25th Jon. (unless we get locked down :()
Track Attack Race Club Qualifying 9.05 to 9.20
First Race 11:35 to 11:50
Second is the last race of the day (again) 16:10 to 16:25
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Maybe it's time to look into active aero, what could possibly go wrong with that. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:13:46 AM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: lennycarloff on October 15, 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Maybe it's time to look into active aero, what could possibly go wrong with that. :dontknow:
DRS is banned in the blue book, but we tried with a collapsable rear wing and that didnt go so well ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2020, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2020, 10:17:00 AM
Iv always wanted to see someone use the rear wing as an air brake like the mercedes SLR had, technically its not active aero, more like assistive active braking, set it up on the brake pedal but use a tach signal or something, possibly even switched on when you are in 3rd and 4th the gear to help slow the car down at high speeds etc
Run it through a solenoid/relay/switchyjobby and have 2 x linear actuators as the top arms of the wing attached top and bottom of the top mount brackets on the wing...
Yeh as you can see iv though about how to do it a fair bit lol
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Run it through a solenoid/relay/switchyjobby and have 2 x linear actuators as the top arms of the wing attached top and bottom of the top mount brackets on the wing...
Yeh as you can see iv though about how to do it a fair bit lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:35:56 PM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:35:56 PM
I think this would be just a little too dramatic for the RX-8 ;)
On a more serious note, I have a saying "always learning"
The air brake was mentioned in a recent Sky program on the founding of the disc brake, stolen from the aviation world as many this are.
I didn't realise that while Mercedes were messing around with the air brake system Norman Dewis and Sterling Moss were the main developers of the disc brake which immediately scored over the drum brake. Fascinating program "always learning"
On a more serious note, I have a saying "always learning"
The air brake was mentioned in a recent Sky program on the founding of the disc brake, stolen from the aviation world as many this are.
I didn't realise that while Mercedes were messing around with the air brake system Norman Dewis and Sterling Moss were the main developers of the disc brake which immediately scored over the drum brake. Fascinating program "always learning"
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:57:37 PM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2020, 08:57:37 PM
Dave (WarpcOIL) worked out why the bonnet lifts! (and its a yellow car 8))
https://youtu.be/zfC_GuHiP68?t=5
https://youtu.be/zfC_GuHiP68?t=5
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car- Last race at Donnginton tomorrow
Post by: clive on October 24, 2020, 12:08:30 PM
Post by: clive on October 24, 2020, 12:08:30 PM
Last race of the season tomorrow at Donnington Park Race Circuit- 40 car grid :13:
Qualifying at 9.15, 1st race (race 12) at 11.35, 2nd race (race 28) at 16.10. You can follow here
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/204352
Qualifying at 9.15, 1st race (race 12) at 11.35, 2nd race (race 28) at 16.10. You can follow here
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/204352
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 24, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 24, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on October 24, 2020, 02:38:44 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on October 24, 2020, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: clive on October 24, 2020, 12:08:30 PMGood luck
Last race of the season tomorrow at Donnington Park Race Circuit- 40 car grid :13:
Qualifying at 9.15, 1st race (race 12) at 11.35, 2nd race (race 28) at 16.10. You can follow here
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/204352
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 24, 2020, 02:52:46 PM
Post by: boosted on October 24, 2020, 02:52:46 PM
FINGERS X CHAMP FOR THE TRIPLE.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 10:25:08 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 10:25:08 AM
Any ideas how qualy went ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Yep 7th i think... all pretty close times.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 10:31:39 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 10:31:39 AM
It's say he's 5th, but time's are quite close. Does anyone know if it's on YouTube.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 12:30:36 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 12:30:36 PM
Yay 2nd !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 01:53:46 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 01:53:46 PM
What a great result, and it sounded like a good battle between 2nd and 4th through traffic.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on October 25, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
Post by: jinx on October 25, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
Race 2 DNF disappointment. Season's end protest from Christine? (After being relatively well behaved this year.)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
Yeah something not right.. fingers x not to serious.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 05:34:42 PM
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 05:34:42 PM
Concerning to see that Clive and Stephen Sawley, who were both on the front row of the grid for the 2nd race, both DNF and both cars stopped on lap 3. I really hope that was not a coming together :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:36:53 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:36:53 PM
The commentator saw Clive driving down pitlane...said he was retiring...he didnt say if he saw any damage...but it was still moving under its own power...
Hopefully Clive ring me on his way home and i can update.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:40:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:40:30 PM
Let's hope it's ok
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 05:41:37 PM
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 05:41:37 PM
That's very good news - relatively I mean! - but I'm sure Clive will be very disappointed after his result in the first race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:44:22 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:44:22 PM
Lets hope enough for Triple.
When i spoke earlier he said the spoiler had folded again. Seemed in good spirits...was a bit concerned about the driving standard of the mr2!!!
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When i spoke earlier he said the spoiler had folded again. Seemed in good spirits...was a bit concerned about the driving standard of the mr2!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:48:10 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:44:22 PMRear wing folded ?
Lets hope enough for Triple.
When i spoke earlier he said the spoiler had folded again. Seemed in good spirits...was a bit concerned about the driving standard of the mr2!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 25, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
Post by: clive on October 25, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
Race 2 started to rain prior to race changed to wets however the track was not wet enough! so had no grip decided to come in and go home with the car in one piece 😄 Not a bad day won class and 2nd place in first race👍 Secured enough points throughout the year to win the GT Modified section of the championship 🏆
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on October 25, 2020, 05:51:23 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on October 25, 2020, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: clive on October 25, 2020, 05:50:23 PMWhoohoo....well done
Race 2 started to rain prior to race changed to wets however the track was not wet enough! so had no grip decided to come in and go home with the car in one piece
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 25, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: clive on October 25, 2020, 05:50:23 PMWonderful news
Race 2 started to rain prior to race changed to wets however the track was not wet enough! so had no grip decided to come in and go home with the car in one piece
Well earned
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2020, 05:55:55 PM
Pheww welldone.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 25, 2020, 05:59:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 25, 2020, 05:59:18 PM
Congrats captain !
Well deserved
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 06:04:49 PM
Post by: Casey on October 25, 2020, 06:04:49 PM
:Woot_Emoticon:
Many congrats Clive - much relief too that you and car are OK!
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Many congrats Clive - much relief too that you and car are OK!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on October 25, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Well done, that's a great result, and car and driver going home safe.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 25, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
Post by: clive on October 25, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
Many thanks for the comments.
Car and trophy home safe, that will do till next year. Should have a decent video of race one later in the week.
Car and trophy home safe, that will do till next year. Should have a decent video of race one later in the week.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2020, 07:23:00 AM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2020, 07:23:00 AM
Good job Clive, congrats!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 27, 2020, 08:36:50 AM
Post by: Prototype on October 27, 2020, 08:36:50 AM
Here is Race 1
https://youtu.be/i1FCZWhbcU8
https://youtu.be/i1FCZWhbcU8
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
Good going
That civic really wanted to share a bit of his paint at times .
How bad did the broken wing affect yourhandling Clive ?
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That civic really wanted to share a bit of his paint at times .
How bad did the broken wing affect yourhandling Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
Post by: Casey on October 27, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
Another excellent video Philip - super editing of F/R cameras, plus the commentary added immensely to the viewing experience :13:
A great race to watch :great:
Well done Clive, awesome driving to hold off the Civic and dealing with those back markers :notworthy:
A great race to watch :great:
Well done Clive, awesome driving to hold off the Civic and dealing with those back markers :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 27, 2020, 02:33:42 PM
Post by: clive on October 27, 2020, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
Good going
That civic really wanted to share a bit of his paint at times .
How bad did the broken wing affect yourhandling Clive ?
Best way to answer the rear wing question is, fastest lap was on lap 3 -----------then the wing broke ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 27, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
Need some grp on the case
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 27, 2020, 02:49:32 PM
Post by: clive on October 27, 2020, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 27, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
Another excellent video Philip - super editing of F/R cameras, plus the commentary added immensely to the viewing experience :13:
A great race to watch :great:
Well done Clive, awesome driving to hold off the Civic and dealing with those back markers :notworthy:
I gave the the Civic three goes at me to work out if it was aggression (which it was) then just drove him the same way there after!
The back markers came in handy as I slowed it little at times to use them against him, which seemed to work OK ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: clive on October 27, 2020, 02:33:42 PMFirst time for everythingQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 27, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
Good going
That civic really wanted to share a bit of his paint at times .
How bad did the broken wing affect yourhandling Clive ?
Best way to answer the rear wing question is, fastest lap was on lap 3 -----------then the wing broke ;D
I've heard of driving the wheels off a car
Just never the wing lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 09:33:12 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 09:33:12 AM
It is really good to see a variety of cars competing against each other, especially seeing the cincentina effect into and out of corners with the other cars and different lines in the corners.
Am I right in saying that the civic makes up time in the corners possibly because it is lighter? But once you get into the straighter bits you can make up ground with hp you have?
The civic on the Last lap he must have thought there was extra 1/4 mile to go before he needed to brake into that corner he went so wide he almost ended up at the airport
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Am I right in saying that the civic makes up time in the corners possibly because it is lighter? But once you get into the straighter bits you can make up ground with hp you have?
The civic on the Last lap
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2020, 09:45:59 AM
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2020, 09:45:59 AM
Last lap do or die move...keep the momentum up coming out of corner get a run on Clive....didnt work he had to take to the grass and lost his 3rd place too to the mr2. shows he was proper trying.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 11:00:47 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 11:00:47 AM
Now I'm no expert but throwing more momentum into a corner on a FWD only equates to Do not pass go, do not turn right, do not collect £200, go to jail, straight through the grass and onto the next county
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on October 28, 2020, 03:35:07 PM
Post by: Prototype on October 28, 2020, 03:35:07 PM
Quote from: Casey on October 27, 2020, 10:42:55 AM
Another excellent video Philip - super editing of F/R cameras, plus the commentary added immensely to the viewing experience :13:
A great race to watch :great:
Well done Clive, awesome driving to hold off the Civic and dealing with those back markers :notworthy:
Thank you Malcolm. I know you appreciate what it takes to sync the footage from two cameras and the commentary :)
I'm pleased you enjoy the videos I create from Clive's fantastic races. This is why I enjoy doing them for you all.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 09:09:56 PM
Found you a gear box Clive (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201029/80c7be9845312797653d19adf3f07445.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 30, 2020, 08:25:09 AM
Post by: clive on October 30, 2020, 08:25:09 AM
If I still had the Mustang that would be perfect ;)
I need at least a 5 speed box or better still a 6 speed, but thank yiou fir thinking of me.
I need at least a 5 speed box or better still a 6 speed, but thank yiou fir thinking of me.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 01, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
Post by: clive on November 01, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
The winter diet begins, my new fibre doors have arrived :).
Going to make these even lighter though, as the inner skin panel that holds the window mechanism will get cut out.
Going to make these even lighter though, as the inner skin panel that holds the window mechanism will get cut out.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on November 01, 2020, 03:51:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 01, 2020, 03:51:54 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 01, 2020, 08:11:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 01, 2020, 08:11:50 PM
Clive they're the wrong colour, they're meant to be yellow....... 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 02, 2020, 02:35:51 PM
Post by: clive on November 02, 2020, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 01, 2020, 08:11:50 PM
Clive they're the wrong colour, they're meant to be yellow.......
Dont worry they will be ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 02, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
Post by: clive on November 02, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
So what could the caption for this picture be ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2020, 02:59:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 02, 2020, 02:59:45 PM
So clive....
Did I ever tell you I was Henry Winklers stunt double ?
Did I ever tell you I was Henry Winklers stunt double ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 03:02:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 02, 2020, 02:59:45 PMThat'll take some beating
So clive....
Did I ever tell you I was Henry Winklers stunt double ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:46:03 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:46:03 PM
....Happy Days....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:46:03 PMWho's ?
....Happy Days....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
Wayne , there is a link between Casey hand gestures and my quote....see if you can work it out without going on mrc
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:58:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
Wayne , there is a link between Casey hand gestures and my quote....see if you can work it out without going on mrc
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i got it That's why
Who's happy days lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:57:15 PMThis is MRC mind
Wayne , there is a link between Casey hand gestures and my quote....see if you can work it out without going on mrc
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:59:05 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:59:05 PM
Lol.. i am on Mrc.. doh i blame nightshifts...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:59:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 02, 2020, 06:59:05 PMAnd DOTD goes to mr boosted
Lol.. i am on Mrc.. doh i blame nightshifts...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 07:00:41 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 07:00:41 PM
Ffs. Damn..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 07:01:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 02, 2020, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 02, 2020, 07:00:41 PMMade me chuckle old buddy
Ffs. Damn..
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 07:02:25 PM
Post by: boosted on November 02, 2020, 07:02:25 PM
Made me facepalm myself. 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
Post by: Casey on November 02, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
LOL :13: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 09:01:22 AM
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 09:01:22 AM
Can anyone help converting this information into gear ratios please?
I have found a cheap way of getting a decent gear box into the car.
Its a used borg warner T5 Straight Cut Dog (gleb) gearbox /
I contacted the seller for the ratios and have been given this info.
Sorry don't know but this may help long 1st 50mph 2nd 70mph 5th 127mph diff 4.6 tyres 305x45x15in at 7200rpm thanks
I have found a cheap way of getting a decent gear box into the car.
Its a used borg warner T5 Straight Cut Dog (gleb) gearbox /
I contacted the seller for the ratios and have been given this info.
Sorry don't know but this may help long 1st 50mph 2nd 70mph 5th 127mph diff 4.6 tyres 305x45x15in at 7200rpm thanks
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on November 12, 2020, 12:23:11 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on November 12, 2020, 12:23:11 PM
Clive
Using a wheel circumference of 81.1 inches I calculate the following.
1st : 2.404
2nd : 1.717
5th : 0.947
Hopefully someone else can check to make sure my maths stands up. I put the numbers through a spreadsheet I had for calculating gear ratios based on speed/ revs.
Dave
Using a wheel circumference of 81.1 inches I calculate the following.
1st : 2.404
2nd : 1.717
5th : 0.947
Hopefully someone else can check to make sure my maths stands up. I put the numbers through a spreadsheet I had for calculating gear ratios based on speed/ revs.
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on November 12, 2020, 12:42:49 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on November 12, 2020, 12:42:49 PM
Found a calculator at https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear.aspx using 25.81 inches for tyre diameter that gives same numbers as calculated above.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2020, 02:04:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2020, 02:04:38 PM
Well this sounds interesting
What torque/hp is it rated at?
I remember looking at the T5 or T6 a while ago now
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What torque/hp is it rated at?
I remember looking at the T5 or T6 a while ago now
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 07:50:58 PM
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 07:50:58 PM
Many thanks Dave, you got very close :great:
Pip rang the Gleb gearbox company for me as he knows the owner, apparenly that make around 100 kts for these boxes a year.
Ratio's will be /
2.43-1.56-1.24-1.00-0.9
Grant, not sure but Pip has experiance with these boxes and said well over 600 brake is not a problem.
A bit of research shows these boxes are used in Cosworth's and Mustangs in stock form so torque will not be a problem also this is stronger than stack as it has straight dog gears/
When you have a dog set its always stonger as the gears are beefier because they dont have to make room for syncros and baulk rings,
Pip rang the Gleb gearbox company for me as he knows the owner, apparenly that make around 100 kts for these boxes a year.
Ratio's will be /
2.43-1.56-1.24-1.00-0.9
Grant, not sure but Pip has experiance with these boxes and said well over 600 brake is not a problem.
A bit of research shows these boxes are used in Cosworth's and Mustangs in stock form so torque will not be a problem also this is stronger than stack as it has straight dog gears/
When you have a dog set its always stonger as the gears are beefier because they dont have to make room for syncros and baulk rings,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
Post by: clive on November 12, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: DaveCollins on November 12, 2020, 12:42:49 PM
Found a calculator at https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear.aspx using 25.81 inches for tyre diameter that gives same numbers as calculated above.
Dave
Thanks Dave,
Going to run this set up which will hopefully work
2.43-1.56-1.24-1.00-0.9
4.7 Diff
285/645/18
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 12, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
Just found one on ebay for 800 squids
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 13, 2020, 05:46:43 AM
Post by: re japi on November 13, 2020, 05:46:43 AM
Yep, those gearboxes are actually quite good.
But you have to get short shifter kit in it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 13, 2020, 10:29:17 AM
Post by: clive on November 13, 2020, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on November 13, 2020, 05:46:43 AM
Yep, those gearboxes are actually quite good.
But you have to get short shifter kit in it
short shifter kit ? any links for me please ?/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2020, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2020, 11:08:27 AM
Is it a h pattern dog box you getting Clive or sequential?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 13, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: clive on November 13, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2020, 11:08:27 AM
Is it a h pattern dog box you getting Clive or sequential?
Unless you want to sponser me, I cant stretch to a sequential box :)) :))
Picked the box up today, just need a good machinist to modify the RX8 bellhousing ::)
Steve you have heard this before "No good hiding" :)) :))
Found out today that the Mustang and the Cosworth T5 boxes are different with the Mustang box I have bought being the stronger of the two.
Quite nostalgic to be using a Mustang box, mind you my Mustang Drag car ran a T10 box back in 1980 not one of these new fangled boxes.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2020, 07:40:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2020, 07:40:38 PM
How are you fixing it to the bell housing? An adapter or wled and re drill?
I suppose you shall need a new clutch too? Different input shaft?
Iv seen a fair few guys with dog boxes have strain gauges which help with ignition cut for a flat shift might be worth looking into in the long run?
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Iv seen a fair few guys with dog boxes have strain gauges which help with ignition cut for a flat shift
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on November 13, 2020, 10:20:09 PM
Post by: steve phillips on November 13, 2020, 10:20:09 PM
I know I can't hide Mr Clive,,, although I've been trying for the past 22 years............. :13:
Yes you just need to find a GOOD machinist now,,,,, dont know any good ones I'm afraid.........
There's probably lots of other companies selling short shift kits for the T5 but these two sprang to mind, burton's products are normally perfectly good, but I bought all my cosworth parts from Graham Goode and have to say their products are first class,
https://shop.grahamgoode.com/quickshifts-21546-c.asp
https://www.burtonpower.com/parts-by-category/transmission-clutch-wheels/quickshift-gear-levers-kits.html
Yes you just need to find a GOOD machinist now,,,,, dont know any good ones I'm afraid.........
There's probably lots of other companies selling short shift kits for the T5 but these two sprang to mind, burton's products are normally perfectly good, but I bought all my cosworth parts from Graham Goode and have to say their products are first class,
https://shop.grahamgoode.com/quickshifts-21546-c.asp
https://www.burtonpower.com/parts-by-category/transmission-clutch-wheels/quickshift-gear-levers-kits.html
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 10:15:05 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 10:15:05 AM
Come on Clive let's see some pics of it then
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 14, 2020, 02:14:26 PM
Post by: clive on November 14, 2020, 02:14:26 PM
Going to be a while yet Grant,
Got to get my car stripped first to get the bellhousing to start mocking up but thats in a couple of weeks time.
Big list of things to do over the winter to start making the car competative for 2021
March 27th/28th Silverstone is the first race, but the cars got to be ready before that to go testing with all the mods that are planned.
Got to get my car stripped first to get the bellhousing to start mocking up but thats in a couple of weeks time.
Big list of things to do over the winter to start making the car competative for 2021
March 27th/28th Silverstone is the first race, but the cars got to be ready before that to go testing with all the mods that are planned.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on November 14, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
Post by: steve phillips on November 14, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
on behalf of Mr Clive a picture of a dog box as requested.................
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 14, 2020, 03:03:37 PM
Post by: boosted on November 14, 2020, 03:03:37 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 14, 2020, 03:53:02 PM
Post by: clive on November 14, 2020, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: steve phillips on November 14, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
on behalf of Mr Clive a picture of a dog box as requested.................
See, I said that box would be useful ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 14, 2020, 03:56:06 PM
Post by: boosted on November 14, 2020, 03:56:06 PM
Hes a beautiful Boy! Grown up abit since i saw him.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 15, 2020, 06:03:42 AM
Post by: re japi on November 15, 2020, 06:03:42 AM
Quote from: steve phillips on November 14, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
on behalf of Mr Clive a picture of a dog box as requested.................
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 15, 2020, 01:40:40 PM
Post by: Casey on November 15, 2020, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: steve phillips on November 14, 2020, 02:57:14 PM
on behalf of Mr Clive a picture of a dog box as requested.................
Gave me a good laugh seeing that :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 15, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
Post by: clive on November 15, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
Here we go Grant, not much to look at for the money though :)) :))
Quick measure up shows from the face of the box to the end of the spigot shaft means the new box is 3/4" longer, so the adaptor plate to take the RX-8 box will be that thick.
Fortunatly this works with the longer shaft, because I would have had problems if the shaft had been shorter ???.
Short shifter is going to be needed as the gear leaver is going to be nearer that dash,
Quick measure up shows from the face of the box to the end of the spigot shaft means the new box is 3/4" longer, so the adaptor plate to take the RX-8 box will be that thick.
Fortunatly this works with the longer shaft, because I would have had problems if the shaft had been shorter ???.
Short shifter is going to be needed as the gear leaver is going to be nearer that dash,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 01, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
Post by: clive on December 01, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
This video shows the mountain I need to climb , here's Jim Janicki's Skyline being wrestled around Brands.
Upon analysing the race I was running 1.6 seconds per lap slower,but nowhere near as spectacular, god knows how he made his rear tyres live the length of the race!
First Thunder Saloon race is March 27/28 Silverstone International / Just commited and reistered rather than running as a guest.
Still going to have a go at Track Attack and their first race is the week before at the same track,
https://youtu.be/HJQjZn4vi_Q
Upon analysing the race I was running 1.6 seconds per lap slower,but nowhere near as spectacular, god knows how he made his rear tyres live the length of the race!
First Thunder Saloon race is March 27/28 Silverstone International / Just commited and reistered rather than running as a guest.
Still going to have a go at Track Attack and their first race is the week before at the same track,
https://youtu.be/HJQjZn4vi_Q
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2020, 09:35:25 PM
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2020, 09:35:25 PM
Wow thats awesome . Looks a right handful...but must be fun...
Its like taking Godzilla for walk on a lead....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2020, 04:25:03 AM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2020, 04:25:03 AM
Holy crap, that beast is a handfull. He aint got ponies under the hood, hes got good ol warhorses.
I wonder how much that car weights?
Yeah, tyres are screaming
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Yeah, tyres are screaming
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
That's a bit of Handful
Love how he's bobbing up and down whilst trying to control the car .
I know that not your style Clive ,
If you were driving in that manner do you think you could squeeze a bit more time out or would you be slower ?
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Love how he's bobbing up and down whilst trying to control the car .
I know that not your style Clive ,
If you were driving in that manner do you think you could squeeze a bit more time out or would you be slower ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 12:30:50 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 12:30:50 PM
Its only on full throttle for what 30% of lap? Its Brutal!. Prob more power than the 90s chassis can handle. Clives smooth like Casey...but i suspect Christine is just as much a brute .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 12:44:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 12:44:22 PM
The way his car moves around reminds me of how my kart reacts when I go karting bouncing, rear end breaking loose, ramming people
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
That's a bit of Handful
Love how he's bobbing up and down whilst trying to control the car .
I know that not your style Clive ,
If you were driving in that manner do you think you could squeeze a bit more time out or would you be slower ?
When I started racing there were no tips on how to drive a race car, but one that stuck with me as a kid, was standing at the bottom of Paddock and thinking how slow James Hunt was going in his M23. All the others were banzaiing, four wheel drift, back out, opposite lock etc.
To my amazment, James stuck it on pole! this taught me that the fastest way is always to have all the wheels pointing as straight as possible and to be as smooth as possible.
Quite simply, if a cars sliding sideways, it ain't going forward and your tyres are not gripping properly!
Someone also said once, you should use the throttle like there's an egg between your foot and the pedal, which is a good deffinition
The RX-8 has more than enough power to showboat and look spectacular but I know 100% it would be slower.
People have said before the RX-8 just looks slow from the outside, then they see from the inside how hard it's being to keep it in check with the steering wheel being constantly "adjusted" !
That should answer your question about the Skyline, best not ask for the long version to the same question :)) :)) :)) :)).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
That sounds how cars with all these electrical system have in place to get cars around tracks these days.
Torque management as they call it, sensors everywhere on the car so that the driver can basically mash the pedals and the ecu calculates everything and selects the gears, throttle position, boost etc.
Basically you are the T800 terminator and all these new fandangled cars are the Rev9 terminator lol
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Torque management as they call it, sensors everywhere on the car so that the driver can basically mash the pedals and the ecu calculates everything and selects the gears, throttle position, boost etc.
Basically you are the T800 terminator and all these new fandangled cars are the Rev9 terminator lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 03:32:07 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
That sounds how cars with all these electrical system have in place to get cars around tracks these days.
Torque management as they call it, sensors everywhere on the car so that the driver can basically mash the pedals and the ecu calculates everything and selects the gears, throttle position, boost etc.
Basically you are the T800 terminator and all these new fandangled cars are the Rev9 terminator lol
Grant, your one of the very few who have passengered with me on a race track, so you know how I drive and it was in the wet :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 04:05:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 04:05:12 PM
Quote from: clive on December 02, 2020, 03:32:07 PMThat was one of my best experiencesQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
That sounds how cars with all these electrical system have in place to get cars around tracks these days.
Torque management as they call it, sensors everywhere on the car so that the driver can basically mash the pedals and the ecu calculates everything and selects the gears, throttle position, boost etc.
Basically you are the T800 terminator and all these new fandangled cars are the Rev9 terminator lol
Grant, your one of the very few who have passengered with me on a race track, so you know how I drive and it was in the wet :)) :)) :))
IT was around my birthday too, I just remember having the biggest grin on my face and my cheek bones hurt after from smiling
Iv never been in a car with someone driving that fast and absolutely under control, especially as it was wet!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
You must have been with somebody else as well that day then ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
Jarnos been out with me at Silverstone...he loved it 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 04:17:54 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2020, 04:17:54 PM
Ive still got the vid it makes me howl with laughter...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 04:49:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: clive on December 02, 2020, 02:59:32 PMThat pretty much what I thoughtQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 02, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
That's a bit of Handful
Love how he's bobbing up and down whilst trying to control the car .
I know that not your style Clive ,
If you were driving in that manner do you think you could squeeze a bit more time out or would you be slower ?
When I started racing there were no tips on how to drive a race car, but one that stuck with me as a kid, was standing at the bottom of Paddock and thinking how slow James Hunt was going in his M23. All the others were banzaiing, four wheel drift, back out, opposite lock etc.
To my amazment, James stuck it on pole! this taught me that the fastest way is always to have all the wheels pointing as straight as possible and to be as smooth as possible.
Quite simply, if a cars sliding sideways, it ain't going forward and your tyres are not gripping properly!
Someone also said once, you should use the throttle like there's an egg between your foot and the pedal, which is a good deffinition
The RX-8 has more than enough power to showboat and look spectacular but I know 100% it would be slower.
People have said before the RX-8 just looks slow from the outside, then they see from the inside how hard it's being to keep it in check with the steering wheel being constantly "adjusted" !
That should answer your question about the Skyline, best not ask for the long version to the same question :)) :)) :)) :)).
My mate Owen takes the mick because I don't throw the arse end out
But simply can't really with lack or torque
I do admire your clean driving
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 10:30:56 PM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2020, 10:30:56 PM
Wayne, I did miss out one very important thing, which is a little difficult in the road car you need to drive home :)), I learnt by crashing!
When I started at 16 for the first few years, If a car spun, you could bet your life that I would hit it and I did!
This taught me to always look up the road at what's going on, not the two feet of tarmac in front of me!
Over the years I have had a barrel roll at Brands when the front suspension failed which led to a flip then rolling, some said 9 some said 12 times, been hit head on twice after being spun in the pack.
I have been knocked out twice and had a nice ride in the ambulance, plus I found out two years ago during an x-ray that I had broken my back at some time during my racing career!
Like I said, I learnt by crashing!
When I started at 16 for the first few years, If a car spun, you could bet your life that I would hit it and I did!
This taught me to always look up the road at what's going on, not the two feet of tarmac in front of me!
Over the years I have had a barrel roll at Brands when the front suspension failed which led to a flip then rolling, some said 9 some said 12 times, been hit head on twice after being spun in the pack.
I have been knocked out twice and had a nice ride in the ambulance, plus I found out two years ago during an x-ray that I had broken my back at some time during my racing career!
Like I said, I learnt by crashing!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2020, 08:06:51 AM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2020, 08:06:51 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 02, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2020, 08:22:14 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 03, 2020, 08:22:14 AM
Quote from: clive on December 02, 2020, 10:30:56 PMIn a fairly long career
Wayne, I did miss out one very important thing, which is a little difficult in the road car you need to drive home :)), I learnt by crashing!
When I started at 16 for the first few years, If a car spun, you could bet your life that I would hit it and I did!
This taught me to always look up the road at what's going on, not the two feet of tarmac in front of me!
Over the years I have had a barrel roll at Brands when the front suspension failed which led to a flip then rolling, some said 9 some said 12 times, been hit head on twice after being spun in the pack.
I have been knocked out twice and had a nice ride in the ambulance, plus I found out two years ago during an x-ray that I had broken my back at some time during my racing career!
Like I said, I learnt by crashing!
That good going Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 03, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 03, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
Very nice Anglia you had there for your track debut, Clive! :notworthy: 1498cc GT or 1600 Crossflow power? I assume you got rid of pushrods, valves, camshaft and other non-essentials at a later stage?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2020, 11:37:02 AM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2020, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on December 03, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
Very nice Anglia you had there for your track debut, Clive! :notworthy: 1498cc GT or 1600 Crossflow power? I assume you got rid of pushrods, valves, camshaft and other non-essentials at a later stage?
This was 1973 and we were only allowed 1200cc / although i'm sure some were using 1340's which was still a three bearing crank!
This was the only race that I did as at 16 I wasn't old enough to hold a licence and was told not to apply for any more events!,
I had to wait another year to race on big tracks like Brands Hatch, then I raced 850 mini's the next season anyway.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 03, 2020, 12:04:10 PM
Post by: clive on December 03, 2020, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on December 03, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
I assume you got rid of pushrods, valves, camshaft and other non-essentials at a later stage?
Just realised what you said :)) :))
Yes, later, I became a man without pushrods, valves, camshafts >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 11, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
Post by: clive on December 11, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
RX-8 2021 Race Schedule
• Mar 21st Track Attack Silverstone International
• Mar 27/28 Thunder Saloon Silverstone International
• Apr 24th Track Attack Lydden Hill
• May 22nd Track Attack Mallory Park
• May 31 Thunder Saloon Donnington National
• Jul 3/4 Thunder Saloon Castle Combe
• Jul31 / Aug1 Thunder Saloon Brands Hatch Indy
• Aug 8th Track Attack Brands Hatch Indy
• Sep 18/19 Thunder Saloon Snetterton
• Oct 17 Thunder Saloon Mallory Park
• Mar 21st Track Attack Silverstone International
• Mar 27/28 Thunder Saloon Silverstone International
• Apr 24th Track Attack Lydden Hill
• May 22nd Track Attack Mallory Park
• May 31 Thunder Saloon Donnington National
• Jul 3/4 Thunder Saloon Castle Combe
• Jul31 / Aug1 Thunder Saloon Brands Hatch Indy
• Aug 8th Track Attack Brands Hatch Indy
• Sep 18/19 Thunder Saloon Snetterton
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
Blimey!! Thats 20 races? . Action packed year
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car / 2021 Race Dates
Post by: clive on December 11, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
Post by: clive on December 11, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 11, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
Blimey!! Thats 20 races? . Action packed year
As you can see the focus is on Thunder Saloon, going to update my brochure in the hope of getting a sponsor to help costs and build the engine I now want to build.
Looks like the rounds of Thunder will be on TV so hopefully that may help get a sponsor.
Protyre Motorsport have decided to help with the Thunder Saloon side of things and are sending me 14 tyres for free next week. / Ten Slicks and four wets , same tyres as they supply for the British GT Championship
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AM
What engine do you want to build.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 09:33:31 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 09:33:31 AM
That's a busy schedule
Nice to have three to help you along
Good luck
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Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
Well by the looks of it there's 3 tracks that are sort of close enough to try watch(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201212/f9679bcaa055adfe18219c8df05eda64.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
Hoping to attend a few more races next year Grant...be nice to finally meet you after all these years
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 01:49:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 01:49:52 PM
Yeh, although I literally work all over the country I think Silverstone is about as far as kids will travel, unless I "work" a weekend day down south
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AMCosmo plates and low compression rotors of course
What engine do you want to build.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 03:47:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PMThere's no low comp rotors left, I'm buying them allQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AMCosmo plates and low compression rotors of course
What engine do you want to build.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 03:47:53 PMSurely you could spare me twoQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PMThere's no low comp rotors left, I'm buying them allQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AMCosmo plates and low compression rotors of course
What engine do you want to build.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 13, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
Post by: clive on December 13, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
Dont worry Wayne, when you go full PP you wont need Cosmo plates as the ports get blocked off. ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 04:49:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:10:48 PMWhat rotors have you got for your 2nd engine? If you get them machined they will lower the compression anyway.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 03:47:53 PMSurely you could spare me twoQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PMThere's no low comp rotors left, I'm buying them allQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AMCosmo plates and low compression rotors of course
What engine do you want to build.....
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I'm just doing a bit of reading on the Web about lower compression and boost.
General concensus is that lower compression is better for higher boost albeit you have to run more boost to achieve the same hp
But my question is with more boost but the same peak hp number would you see more torque
In Clives case he has to use regular fuel for racing? So at some point he will reach a threshold where you can't go much higher in boost, unlike me where methanol actually contains oxygen and you can run it pig rich and not see any detrimental effects.
At what boost level is petrol limiting boost? I have no idea
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:54:49 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: clive on December 13, 2020, 04:47:28 PMDo they ?
Dont worry Wayne, when you go full PP you wont need Cosmo plates as the ports get blocked off. ;)
I must spend some time over the Christmas break reading up about these things so I can relate better
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 04:49:23 PMI've just got an engine with Cosmo plates built .Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:10:48 PMWhat rotors have you got for your 2nd engine? If you get them machined they will lower the compression anyway.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 03:47:53 PMSurely you could spare me twoQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 12, 2020, 07:46:47 PMThere's no low comp rotors left, I'm buying them allQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 02:22:54 AMCosmo plates and low compression rotors of course
What engine do you want to build.....
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I'm just doing a bit of reading on the Web about lower compression and boost.
General concensus is that lower compression is better for higher boost albeit you have to run more boost to achieve the same hp
But my question is with more boost but the same peak hp number would you see more torque
In Clives case he has to use regular fuel for racing? So at some point he will reach a threshold where you can't go much higher in boost, unlike me where methanol actually contains oxygen and you can run it pig rich and not see any detrimental effects.
At what boost level is petrol limiting boost? I have no idea
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That's about all I know
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 05:18:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 05:18:32 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 04:54:49 PMFull PP setups are basically intake ports on the periphery of the rotor housingsQuote from: clive on December 13, 2020, 04:47:28 PMDo they ?
Dont worry Wayne, when you go full PP you wont need Cosmo plates as the ports get blocked off. ;)
I must spend some time over the Christmas break reading up about these things so I can relate better
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The exhaust port is a peripheral port.
I'm thinking of my Third engine going to be a full pp setup but that will be a pipe dream for a while.
A pp turbo engine will make a lot more hp than what your aiming for at the moment
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
Think that will be out of my league
Just want a bit of extra power and good reliability
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
You just need a std rew with a pair of ht12s running sequential...and set of ap racing 6 pots up front and your good to go... my piddly twins have caught and taken on track several big power rx7 singles...its all in the right foot and loose nut behind the steering wheel.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 07:06:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PMManaged to beat Clive yet then
You just need a std rew with a pair of ht12s running sequential...and set of ap racing 6 pots up front and your good to go... my piddly twins have caught and taken on track several big power rx7 singles...its all in the right foot
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PMTwins don't fit 🥲🥲🥲
You just need a std rew with a pair of ht12s running sequential...and set of ap racing 6 pots up front and your good to go... my piddly twins have caught and taken on track several big power rx7 singles...its all in the right foot
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Would be cheaper
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 07:06:01 PMI for one would have loved to see his westy out against Clive in early daysQuote from: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PMManaged to beat Clive yet then
You just need a std rew with a pair of ht12s running sequential...and set of ap racing 6 pots up front and your good to go... my piddly twins have caught and taken on track several big power rx7 singles...its all in the right foot
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That would have been very interesting
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 07:42:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 13, 2020, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 13, 2020, 07:19:52 PMYour new turbo out performs the stock twins in every way shape or form. And will last a hell of a lot longer than the twins. I'd say prolonged use of 15psi on the stock twins and they're going to be smoking more than a hasheesh and e cig gathering (generally subaru owners clubs haha)Quote from: boosted on December 13, 2020, 06:19:48 PMTwins don't fit 🥲🥲🥲
You just need a std rew with a pair of ht12s running sequential...and set of ap racing 6 pots up front and your good to go... my piddly twins have caught and taken on track several big power rx7 singles...its all in the right foot
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2020, 08:48:29 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2020, 08:48:29 PM
Im at 13psi in 7
westy v christine...mmm. that wouldve been interesting. 2 very different cars. Mx5 should be some sport for Clive...ill weave on the straights...lol. Im using all the info/ knowledge gained on the other cars and working on it every day off over this winter...its gonna be underestimated....and a set of rods will see it at 300bhp but not yet...
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westy v christine...mmm. that wouldve been interesting. 2 very different cars. Mx5 should be some sport for Clive...ill weave on the straights...lol. Im using all the info/ knowledge gained on the other cars and working on it every day off over this winter...its gonna be underestimated....and a set of rods will see it at 300bhp but not yet... Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 14, 2020, 07:41:15 PM
Post by: clive on December 14, 2020, 07:41:15 PM
Made a bit of progress today-----------we have a lightweight door fitted :)
g-force transmission out in the States make a made to order adaptor plate for the T5 box, however after two weeks playing bat and ball with them and getting nowhere one of the guys at Racing Beat is going to get one arranged from them for me. Looks like it will be around four weeks though before I see it.
Searching around tonight I found some pictures, wow that gear leavers a long way forward, well wrap my knuckles !
g-force transmission out in the States make a made to order adaptor plate for the T5 box, however after two weeks playing bat and ball with them and getting nowhere one of the guys at Racing Beat is going to get one arranged from them for me. Looks like it will be around four weeks though before I see it.
Searching around tonight I found some pictures, wow that gear leavers a long way forward, well wrap my knuckles !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
Looks like your going to need one of them bendy gear knobs and longer shaft.. Drive shaft I mean
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2020, 08:26:32 PM
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2020, 08:26:32 PM
I ran Westy with a set in gearknob to create room for knuckles lol...became 2nd nature no issue after feeling weird at first.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 15, 2020, 08:09:22 PM
Post by: clive on December 15, 2020, 08:09:22 PM
www.gforcetransmissions.com Bad Bad Bad company, did I say Bad :violent1:
Wasted 2 weeks of my time with this company and a guy named Paul :c002:
After talking on the phone I was told by this guy that it would be three weeks to get this made once ordered. I mailed in and told them we could pay however they wanted us to and to kindly send it across to Racing Beat in Anaheim, no reply. :angryfire:
One of the Racing Beat guys rung them today to pay to be told, they don't take credit cards! Then when asked why not "Paul" then said. We don't make that plate and hung up !!!!
Bruce then rang a company who he knew had dealt with these guys, to be told they stopped dealing with gforcetransmissions because of their bad attitude, :41:
Posted this just incase someone ever thinks of getting hold of them for a plate or a box.
I did joke that I bet this guy dresses up in his glad rags with his gun to play with his malisha buddies of a weekend ! :))
Steve has offered kindly to wiz one up for me / Thank gawd he has, thankfully :bravo_2:.
Steve, milling machine at the ready :thank-you:
Wasted 2 weeks of my time with this company and a guy named Paul :c002:
After talking on the phone I was told by this guy that it would be three weeks to get this made once ordered. I mailed in and told them we could pay however they wanted us to and to kindly send it across to Racing Beat in Anaheim, no reply. :angryfire:
One of the Racing Beat guys rung them today to pay to be told, they don't take credit cards! Then when asked why not "Paul" then said. We don't make that plate and hung up !!!!
Bruce then rang a company who he knew had dealt with these guys, to be told they stopped dealing with gforcetransmissions because of their bad attitude, :41:
Posted this just incase someone ever thinks of getting hold of them for a plate or a box.
I did joke that I bet this guy dresses up in his glad rags with his gun to play with his malisha buddies of a weekend ! :))
Steve has offered kindly to wiz one up for me / Thank gawd he has, thankfully :bravo_2:.
Steve, milling machine at the ready :thank-you:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
Looks like I'm going to have to get a liberty gear box instead, they're only 9k
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 16, 2020, 06:24:19 AM
Post by: re japi on December 16, 2020, 06:24:19 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 08:36:39 PMIm not sure, but Iv heard that Libertys arent that good...
Looks like I'm going to have to get a liberty gear box instead, they're only 9k
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 16, 2020, 01:24:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 16, 2020, 01:24:41 PM
Quote from: re japi on December 16, 2020, 06:24:19 AMThey supply Pro stock class with gear boxes so they can't be that bad lolQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 08:36:39 PMIm not sure, but Iv heard that Libertys arent that good...
Looks like I'm going to have to get a liberty gear box instead, they're only 9k
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on December 16, 2020, 01:27:01 PM
Post by: re japi on December 16, 2020, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 16, 2020, 01:24:41 PMWell, few dudes here have blow off few of them in their drag carsQuote from: re japi on December 16, 2020, 06:24:19 AMThey supply Pro stock class with gear boxes so they can't be that bad lolQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 08:36:39 PMIm not sure, but Iv heard that Libertys arent that good...
Looks like I'm going to have to get a liberty gear box instead, they're only 9k
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 16, 2020, 03:51:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 16, 2020, 03:51:47 PM
Just been looking at the clutches ones they do, they're rated in horsepower and alps car weight, so I can see things breaking if your exceeding those limits
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:27:19 AM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:27:19 AM
Real nice that the Classic Touring Car Racing Club has made a "news" announcement. (how about that a Rotary being made welcome ;D)
Clive Haynsford confirms that he will be back in 2021 in Thundersaloons !
Clive Haynsford confirms that he will be back in 2021 in Thundersaloons !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2020, 07:11:32 PM
Post by: boosted on December 19, 2020, 07:11:32 PM
Your welcome til you start beating them lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 19, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 19, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
That should bang a few sponsorship doors
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:13:45 PM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 19, 2020, 07:11:32 PM
Your welcome til you start beating them lol
You have a good memory Jon, Track Attack welcomed me with open arms because I had something different ----------------until :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:21:03 PM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 19, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
That should bang a few sponsorship doors
Hope so Wayne, I am having my Sponsorship brochure updated at the printers as we speak. Hopefully the fact that all the series will be Televised may help for once.
p.s. I just have to work on finding a door to knock on in the first place ;)
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Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
Quote from: clive on December 19, 2020, 09:21:03 PMCliveQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 19, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
That should bang a few sponsorship doors
Hope so Wayne, I am having my Sponsorship brochure updated at the printers as we speak. Hopefully the fact that all the series will be Televised may help for once.
p.s. I just have to work on finding a door to knock on in the first place ;)
I'm no advertising expert
However looking at the photo your car already looks well sponsored ........
Maybe less racing beat stickers with say
" your name here "
Across the strip etc would help ?
Surely someone could photoshop them out ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 20, 2020, 12:43:36 PM
Post by: clive on December 20, 2020, 12:43:36 PM
Thanks Wayne, already there on that one, my friend Andrew (Jinx) has already done that for me.
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Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 12:52:21 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 20, 2020, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: clive on December 20, 2020, 12:43:36 PMHappy days
Thanks Wayne, already there on that one, my friend Andrew (Jinx) has already done that for me.
Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 26, 2020, 06:13:38 PM
Post by: clive on December 26, 2020, 06:13:38 PM
Searching for a picture, I stubbled across this and realised its been an 8 year journey from this to this.
Huge Thanks for the help and support along the way to you all :bravo_2:
Huge Thanks for the help and support along the way to you all :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 26, 2020, 06:16:35 PM
Post by: boosted on December 26, 2020, 06:16:35 PM
Has it really been 8 years!! Time flies like the car!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 26, 2020, 08:02:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 26, 2020, 08:02:35 PM
At least 5 of successful racing ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
Another little step forward yesterday / spent the day drilling and cutting fitting up the drivers door,
We now have two properly fitting and closing doors, real impressed with them.
Once they are painted and stickered up, from the outside your never going to know they are fiberglass
We now have two properly fitting and closing doors, real impressed with them.
Once they are painted and stickered up, from the outside your never going to know they are fiberglass
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Post by: boosted on January 10, 2021, 11:03:04 AM
Post by: boosted on January 10, 2021, 11:03:04 AM
Looks really good nice clean shutlines.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Good progress Clive
Have you weighed the old versus new doors to see the weight savings?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
If you squint ......
..... it smells like my rotus !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 12:54:20 PM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Good progress Clive
Have you weighed the old versus new doors to see the weight savings?
I think when we weighed them a few months back it was a saving of 10kilos per door plus the 12 from the PPF and then the 7kilo I cut out before the last race :great:
Getting 40 kilo off the car is obviously a little easier than getting 40 off me!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 01:02:15 PM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
If you squint ......
..... it smells like my rotus !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 01:03:42 PM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2021, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 10, 2021, 11:03:04 AM
Looks really good nice clean shutlines.
Yep, really pleased and the shut to as good as a stock door
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 01:05:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 01:05:51 PM
That's a huge weight loss
Along with the gearbox I'm sure you'll be looking very peaky in thunder saloons
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 01:13:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: clive on January 10, 2021, 01:02:15 PMThey did that a long time ago.....Quote from: Jamie R on January 10, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
If you squint ......
..... it smells like my rotus !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on January 10, 2021, 01:14:34 PM
Post by: Casey on January 10, 2021, 01:14:34 PM
Looks ace Clive, superb fit and an incredible weight saving :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
That's a good chunk of weight for sure, would it be necessary to get the car corner weighted again and adjust the suspension for the amount or do you think it won't make that much of a difference?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 11, 2021, 08:32:29 AM
Post by: clive on January 11, 2021, 08:32:29 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
That's a good chunk of weight for sure, would it be necessary to get the car corner weighted again and adjust the suspension for the amount or do you think it won't make that much of a difference?
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No need Grant because of the areas the weight is coming out of the car will be fairly even.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 11, 2021, 08:34:09 AM
Post by: clive on January 11, 2021, 08:34:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 01:05:51 PM
That's a huge weight loss
Along with the gearbox I'm sure you'll be looking very peaky in thunder saloons
Hope so, going to be well miffed if between the box the weight and the different tyres I dont see a reduction in lap times.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 11, 2021, 08:54:10 AM
Post by: re japi on January 11, 2021, 08:54:10 AM
My friend made classfiber door to his rallycross car. Quite big job actually. But weight loss is massive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 01:11:12 PM
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 01:11:12 PM
Here's a promo Video thats just gone up.
Going to be a tough fight this year, I have seen that more Aussie V8 Supercars have landed here to compet in Thunder Saloons that are in my class!.
Ode to self, got to, got to, go faster this year :violent1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1y5S_sPHO0QNGsrTJtNR4Lrh9qgzMtjQS5Cz6gKNoyOqbJ9yeOViMdHao&v=YNhEIx-Bvac&feature=youtu.be
Going to be a tough fight this year, I have seen that more Aussie V8 Supercars have landed here to compet in Thunder Saloons that are in my class!.
Ode to self, got to, got to, go faster this year :violent1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1y5S_sPHO0QNGsrTJtNR4Lrh9qgzMtjQS5Cz6gKNoyOqbJ9yeOViMdHao&v=YNhEIx-Bvac&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2021, 01:14:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 17, 2021, 01:14:29 PM
If it was gonna be easy everyone could do it.
Positive mental attitude captain.
Put the old girl on a diet, trust your instincts, and cut a hole in the bulkhead so the loud pedal travels further
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Put the old girl on a diet, trust your instincts, and cut a hole in the bulkhead so the loud pedal travels further
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 17, 2021, 01:38:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 17, 2021, 01:38:53 PM
Quicker gear changes and a bit of weight loss should do you good.
For extra added bonus you could do with another 50bhp
Don't suppose your allowed E85 are you?
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For extra added bonus you could do with another 50bhp
Don't suppose your allowed E85 are you?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
Don't worry, not put off, I shall still be trying.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 03:46:06 PM
Post by: clive on January 17, 2021, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 17, 2021, 01:38:53 PM
Quicker gear changes and a bit of weight loss should do you good.
For extra added bonus you could do with another 50bhp
Don't suppose your allowed E85 are you?
Only supposed to run pump fuel but I do run Lucas Octane booster which is one of the few out there that doesn't chage the map because it has oxygen content.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
Post by: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
Small update, still being optimistic that i'm going Racing.
New Racing Beat Alloy Flywheel, that should not only spin the engine up faster, but also let the revs fall quicker due to less inertia giving faster gear changes and Racing Beat clutch disc fitted this week.
My machinist extraordinaire, commonly known as the lesser spotted Steve, is also underway with the adaptor plate for the T5 gear box :wee_hee:
New Racing Beat Alloy Flywheel, that should not only spin the engine up faster, but also let the revs fall quicker due to less inertia giving faster gear changes and Racing Beat clutch disc fitted this week.
My machinist extraordinaire, commonly known as the lesser spotted Steve, is also underway with the adaptor plate for the T5 gear box :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Very nice
Yeah I think racing will be going ahead by April at latest
Don't forget mind Clive
Lots of mods this year
You have big boots to fill and better on last years results lol
Can't wait to see you go
Good luck
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Yeah I think racing will be going ahead by April at latest
Don't forget mind Clive
Lots of mods this year
You have big boots to fill and better on last years results lol
Can't wait to see you go
Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PM
Post by: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
...that should not only spin the engine up faster...
I take it you've checked all this with Christine and she's OK with it? ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:14:47 AM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Very nice
Yeah I think racing will be going ahead by April at latest
Don't forget mind Clive
Lots of mods this year
You have big boots to fill and better on last years results lol
Can't wait to see you go
Good luck
No pressure then :1rij:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:17:02 AM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PMQuote from: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
...that should not only spin the engine up faster...
I take it you've checked all this with Christine and she's OK with it? ;D
Yes, she's happy to lose some weight (Ode, to self, stay politically correct with this answer!) :)) :))
I could have said, any big ol girl as big as Christine would like to lose a bit of weight, but I best not ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 08:25:48 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 08:25:48 AM
Quote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:14:47 AMCliveQuote from: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Very nice
Yeah I think racing will be going ahead by April at latest
Don't forget mind Clive
Lots of mods this year
You have big boots to fill and better on last years results lol
Can't wait to see you go
Good luck
No pressure then :1rij:
Given that it has a few modifications to weight and drivetrain
How different do you think it will be to drive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:57:39 AM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:57:39 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 08:25:48 AMQuote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:14:47 AMCliveQuote from: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Very nice
Yeah I think racing will be going ahead by April at latest
Don't forget mind Clive
Lots of mods this year
You have big boots to fill and better on last years results lol
Can't wait to see you go
Good luck
No pressure then :1rij:
Given that it has a few modifications to weight and drivetrain
How different do you think it will be to drive ?
I would like to think I race the car on the limit, so as there's no suspension mods, I am not expecting the car to actually drive any different.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2021, 11:53:33 AM
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2021, 11:53:33 AM
Gotta say loving the new MRP website design. That orange colour scheme really pops.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 12:08:46 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 12:08:46 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 29, 2021, 11:53:33 AM
Gotta say loving the new MRP website design. That orange colour scheme really pops.
Thanks Jon :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
Quote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:17:02 AMNothing wrong with big girls..... nothing at all.Quote from: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PMQuote from: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
...that should not only spin the engine up faster...
I take it you've checked all this with Christine and she's OK with it? ;D
Yes, she's happy to lose some weight (Ode, to self, stay politically correct with this answer!) :)) :))
I could have said, any big ol girl as big as Christine would like to lose a bit of weight, but I best not ;)
In the words of professor peach from the Italian job........
Are they big? I like them big! BIG I tell you !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 01:12:54 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 12:25:19 PMQuote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:17:02 AMNothing wrong with big girls..... nothing at all.Quote from: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PMQuote from: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
...that should not only spin the engine up faster...
I take it you've checked all this with Christine and she's OK with it? ;D
Yes, she's happy to lose some weight (Ode, to self, stay politically correct with this answer!) :)) :))
I could have said, any big ol girl as big as Christine would like to lose a bit of weight, but I best not ;)
In the words of professor peach from the Italian job........
Are they big? I like them big! BIG I tell you !
Just as well I was being politically correct ;) Wow, I wonder how much the Benny Hill Show could get away with if it was made today :))
Just realised, Christine has led the thread astray, just like many good Christine's must have done before ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 02:14:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 01:12:54 PMAnd the rest......Quote from: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 12:25:19 PMQuote from: clive on January 29, 2021, 08:17:02 AMNothing wrong with big girls..... nothing at all.Quote from: jinx on January 28, 2021, 10:24:54 PMQuote from: clive on January 28, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
...that should not only spin the engine up faster...
I take it you've checked all this with Christine and she's OK with it? ;D
Yes, she's happy to lose some weight (Ode, to self, stay politically correct with this answer!) :)) :))
I could have said, any big ol girl as big as Christine would like to lose a bit of weight, but I best not ;)
In the words of professor peach from the Italian job........
Are they big? I like them big! BIG I tell you !
Just as well I was being politically correct ;) Wow, I wonder how much the Benny Hill Show could get away with if it was made today :))
Just realised, Christine has led the thread astray, just like many good Christine's must have done before ;D
Rising damp
Porridge
Jim,ll fix it....... anyway moving on.
I got a ex sister n law called Christine. She couldn't lead anything astray...... couldn't even lead an ashtray
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: rote8 on January 29, 2021, 04:03:13 PM
Post by: rote8 on January 29, 2021, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 02:14:27 PM:hee20hee20hee:
I got a ex sister n law called Christine. She couldn't lead anything astray...... couldn't even lead an ashtray
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 05:17:39 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2021, 05:17:39 PM
Good news folks as Professor Farnsworth would say (not all will get that one ;))
Here we have the evolution of the adaptor plate as performed by Steve :bravo_2:
Here we have the evolution of the adaptor plate as performed by Steve :bravo_2:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 29, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Nice bit of kit there !!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 05:33:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 05:33:44 PM
Ooh very nice, does he want to machine my inlet manifold for mounting some extra fuel injectors on too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:45:26 AM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:45:26 AM
It fits :wee_hee: :wee_hee: Well done Steve.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
Yay! Great work Steve!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 09:50:11 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 09:50:11 AM
Very nice
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on January 31, 2021, 02:44:10 PM
Post by: Casey on January 31, 2021, 02:44:10 PM
Very neat indeed, well done Steve :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:53:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 04:53:13 PM
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Nice install
I don't recognise the brace. A Steve special ??
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Nice install
I don't recognise the brace. A Steve special ??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
It was from this guy. Would have done more with him but he was real bad to deal with !
https://www.rx8performance.com/products/13b-engine-swap-kit-v2
https://www.rx8performance.com/products/13b-engine-swap-kit-v2
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 06:16:57 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 31, 2021, 06:16:57 PM
Ah yeah that guy.
Not bought anything from him but I may steal his ideas on the rx8 big wing sump but refine it a bit so it's easier to fit without grub screws
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 06:24:57 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2021, 06:24:57 PM
I bought my sump from him.. awesome well made products but guy is frosty...lol.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 09, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
Morning Clive,
Just watched the race archives from brands in 2017 on YouTube!
Good Lord! its all muck n bullets on that first lap!
Just watched the race archives from brands in 2017 on YouTube!
Good Lord! its all muck n bullets on that first lap!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2021, 09:42:39 AM
Post by: boosted on February 09, 2021, 09:42:39 AM
Pesky mr2s...hard racing that. Like a castle combe action day.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 08:45:52 AM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 08:45:52 AM
Bit of an update,
Sadly due to unforeseen circumstances I lost a couple of months on the car, which meant I missed the first Thunder Saloon races @ Silverstone yesterday.
I do have a test session booked on the 7th of May though and if all goes well, I race at Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week.
Huge thanks go to my No 1 Sponsor Steve, tea maker etc which means between us the cars coming along now.
Steve even had Julien who works for him make a new splitter, made under Steves guidance he had never done fabrication before and it came out great.
Biggest issue/change has been the new Gear Box that involved removing the power plant frame.
As you will see below the gear box and diff are now supported and you will see how much further forward the gear change is now.
Fortunately I bought a Hurst short shifter which means the stick travels less and wont hit the dash board.
Also fitted an Alloy Racing Beat flywheel which will mean the revs fall away faster helping the clutchless gear changes with the new Dog Box.
Sadly due to unforeseen circumstances I lost a couple of months on the car, which meant I missed the first Thunder Saloon races @ Silverstone yesterday.
I do have a test session booked on the 7th of May though and if all goes well, I race at Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week.
Huge thanks go to my No 1 Sponsor Steve, tea maker etc which means between us the cars coming along now.
Steve even had Julien who works for him make a new splitter, made under Steves guidance he had never done fabrication before and it came out great.
Biggest issue/change has been the new Gear Box that involved removing the power plant frame.
As you will see below the gear box and diff are now supported and you will see how much further forward the gear change is now.
Fortunately I bought a Hurst short shifter which means the stick travels less and wont hit the dash board.
Also fitted an Alloy Racing Beat flywheel which will mean the revs fall away faster helping the clutchless gear changes with the new Dog Box.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:51:53 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:51:53 AM
Looking good captain.
All the best for the rest of this year, hope all the mods pay off.
:13: :13:
All the best for the rest of this year, hope all the mods pay off.
:13: :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on April 26, 2021, 11:36:04 AM
Post by: jinx on April 26, 2021, 11:36:04 AM
You need a sponsorship deal with Cadbury's. That's a lot of Aeros you're going to owe him. ;D
Good to see Christine is dressing up in new underwear for her 2021 debut. Good luck at Mallory.
Call if the sign guys don't have the sticker art on file. I'm like Steve...never throw anything away, just can't always find it at the drop of a hat.
;D
Good to see Christine is dressing up in new underwear for her 2021 debut. Good luck at Mallory.
Call if the sign guys don't have the sticker art on file. I'm like Steve...never throw anything away, just can't always find it at the drop of a hat.
;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2021, 11:58:09 AM
Post by: boosted on April 26, 2021, 11:58:09 AM
Sterling work! Been meaning to call you for about a month.. just been so busy. Whens your first race?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 26, 2021, 02:37:09 PM
Post by: Casey on April 26, 2021, 02:37:09 PM
Great work there Clive, Steve and Julian :icon_thumleft:
Those gearbox braces look great - any idea on the overall weight saving of the new box/clutch/bracing setup overall, compared to the original setup with the mega heavy PPF?
Those gearbox braces look great - any idea on the overall weight saving of the new box/clutch/bracing setup overall, compared to the original setup with the mega heavy PPF?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 07:40:27 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 07:40:27 PM
Thanks for the comments above, appreciated.
Jon, as above / Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week. (at Donnington)
Andrew, the RBE stickers below were from John French origonaly years ago so my guy has not got them. So if you get a chance ;)
We kept all the bits that were cut out over the winter and calculated the door savings and came up with a saving of 56.5 kilo.
Jon, as above / Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week. (at Donnington)
Andrew, the RBE stickers below were from John French origonaly years ago so my guy has not got them. So if you get a chance ;)
We kept all the bits that were cut out over the winter and calculated the door savings and came up with a saving of 56.5 kilo.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: clive on April 26, 2021, 07:40:27 PM56kg !?!?!?!?
Thanks for the comments above, appreciated.
Jon, as above / Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week. (at Donnington)
Andrew, the RBE stickers below were from John French origonaly years ago so my guy has not got them. So if you get a chance ;)
We kept all the bits that were cut out over the winter and calculated the door savings and came up with a saving of 56.5 kilo.
That's your car going round without you in it ....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 10:08:28 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2021, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 26, 2021, 08:12:23 PMQuote from: clive on April 26, 2021, 07:40:27 PM56kg !?!?!?!?
Thanks for the comments above, appreciated.
Jon, as above / Mallory on the 22nd May then with Thunder Saloons the following week. (at Donnington)
Andrew, the RBE stickers below were from John French origonaly years ago so my guy has not got them. So if you get a chance ;)
We kept all the bits that were cut out over the winter and calculated the door savings and came up with a saving of 56.5 kilo.
That's your car going round without you in it ....
Now there's an idea, the car going round without me in it --------------it would probably be quicker :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 27, 2021, 04:58:33 AM
Post by: re japi on April 27, 2021, 04:58:33 AM
That is massive weight saving!!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 27, 2021, 10:25:18 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 27, 2021, 10:25:18 AM
Wow , that's a huge weight saving
Do you need to do any alterations to the door area of the roll cage now ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 10:45:15 AM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 10:45:15 AM
The race car finally hit the track yesterday with a test session at Brands.
Test was mainly for all the mods over the winter, gearbox etc and testing the Michelin tyres Pro Tyre helped me with from the British GT series, they kindly sent me three sets of tyres the same as they fit to the McLarens!
Mixed day but it came good.
1st session saw a huge vibration on the straight which led to a black flag,which was good info as they could see the effect that the viberation was having on the car.
Turned out the air was turbulent it was making the car porpoising up and down due to the spitter bending out of shape. Pulled the splitter up and bent the lip back into place.
Within three laps the lip had straightened itself out angled itself downward and even the nose was pulling itself of the car.
My one allowed helper was Malcolm and as you will see in the picture with his help we cut the splitter lip back to the nose.
This next stint produced 29 trouble free laps with the car being faster down the straight and still able to get through Paddock hill bend the at the same rate of knots, so this means I still have the same downforce under the car as before sans big lip spoiler and winglets!!
(You can see before and after in the pictures)
One interesting thing was the I had two Ginetta G55 GT4 race cars out with me.
Almost every time over the years I have had these on track with me when testing and let alone down the straight, normally they eat me through the corners and under braking.
I dually moved over as they were racing each other, then put my head down and gave chase, and reeled them in, putting 8 laps in all within a few hundredths of a second, plus lapping cars every lap !!.
To my surprise at the end of the main straight I found my self lifting, also able to brake as late as them, indeed I outbraked one into druids!!
So so happy with the car in it's new "lower" downforce guise plus the tyres are better than the WTC Yokohama Tyres I was on last year.
Mallory Park on the 22nd of the month with Track Attack on "normal" tyres, the Donnington the next weekend on race tyres.
Test was mainly for all the mods over the winter, gearbox etc and testing the Michelin tyres Pro Tyre helped me with from the British GT series, they kindly sent me three sets of tyres the same as they fit to the McLarens!
Mixed day but it came good.
1st session saw a huge vibration on the straight which led to a black flag,which was good info as they could see the effect that the viberation was having on the car.
Turned out the air was turbulent it was making the car porpoising up and down due to the spitter bending out of shape. Pulled the splitter up and bent the lip back into place.
Within three laps the lip had straightened itself out angled itself downward and even the nose was pulling itself of the car.
My one allowed helper was Malcolm and as you will see in the picture with his help we cut the splitter lip back to the nose.
This next stint produced 29 trouble free laps with the car being faster down the straight and still able to get through Paddock hill bend the at the same rate of knots, so this means I still have the same downforce under the car as before sans big lip spoiler and winglets!!
(You can see before and after in the pictures)
One interesting thing was the I had two Ginetta G55 GT4 race cars out with me.
Almost every time over the years I have had these on track with me when testing and let alone down the straight, normally they eat me through the corners and under braking.
I dually moved over as they were racing each other, then put my head down and gave chase, and reeled them in, putting 8 laps in all within a few hundredths of a second, plus lapping cars every lap !!.
To my surprise at the end of the main straight I found my self lifting, also able to brake as late as them, indeed I outbraked one into druids!!
So so happy with the car in it's new "lower" downforce guise plus the tyres are better than the WTC Yokohama Tyres I was on last year.
Mallory Park on the 22nd of the month with Track Attack on "normal" tyres, the Donnington the next weekend on race tyres.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 10:46:24 AM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 10:46:24 AM
Malcolm will eventually post some more pictures for the day.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2021, 10:48:43 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2021, 10:48:43 AM
All
I'm all
A damn good test day then
Good news
How did you find the gearbox ?
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A damn good test day then
Good news
How did you find the gearbox ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
Brill news!
Package arrived very nice professional brochure. Written perfectly. I had 2 copies so let the Peaky Blinder Jamie have 1 as he was visiting.
Must be hard changing gear clutchless?
Christine is long gone but youve picked up Uri Gellar now with all the metal bending...
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Package arrived very nice professional brochure. Written perfectly. I had 2 copies so let the Peaky Blinder Jamie have 1 as he was visiting.
Must be hard changing gear clutchless?
Christine is long gone but youve picked up Uri Gellar now with all the metal bending...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
Uri Gellar :)) :)) :)) Yes, I was staggered at the air bending capabilities to roll the alloy lip out dead flat.
As said so pleased they pulled me in and told me what they were seeing, I could only feel the vibration, but they could see the front of the car literally being pushed up and down by the air not knowing what to do and where to go!.
Gear box is awesome and up changes are instant and as fast as I can lift my foot off the throttle and put it back down again, shame we had no video but at some time you will see what I mean.
Only down side is, I like to be kind to a car and you can't change down nice without a big CRUNCH! Using the clutch actually made it worse. Had it not been for the speed of the gearchange I would not have been able to live with those Ginetta's ;)
Next time out I will try and double de-clutch but without the clutch, in other words, take it out of gear rev the engine then change down, as said no issues going up the box
As said so pleased they pulled me in and told me what they were seeing, I could only feel the vibration, but they could see the front of the car literally being pushed up and down by the air not knowing what to do and where to go!.
Gear box is awesome and up changes are instant and as fast as I can lift my foot off the throttle and put it back down again, shame we had no video but at some time you will see what I mean.
Only down side is, I like to be kind to a car and you can't change down nice without a big CRUNCH! Using the clutch actually made it worse. Had it not been for the speed of the gearchange I would not have been able to live with those Ginetta's ;)
Next time out I will try and double de-clutch but without the clutch, in other words, take it out of gear rev the engine then change down, as said no issues going up the box
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:08:07 PM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:08:07 PM
Well, here's my report on yesterday. Firstly, thanks to Clive for inviting me along :icon_thumleft: The weather was cool, but plenty of sun in between a few cloudy spells.
Clive was parked up in just near the bottom of Paddock Hill and all access to the usual good places to take photos were locked off, so my photos aren't that good, taken with a 300mm lens from where we were parked, trying to get a clear shot over (or through) the the wire fence! I'll post a few track shots in a 2nd post.
Amazingly, from our position in the Paddock, I could see the main straight marshal's post and saw a black flag come out and knew from my timing that Clive might be the "victim" and, sure enough, I knew it was him when he came into view a couple of seconds later. I wondered if it might have been noise, as Clive was aware he was near the limit - enough though his car sounded quieter than many others as he passed me on track. It was a relief when he reappeared later in the session, but I had no idea at that point what the issue was.
When the 1st session ended and he came back to the paddock, it was immediately clear the splitter wasn't sitting right, closer inspection showed the whole nose cone was being pulled downward (possibly as a result of the splitter catching on the track surface), with a clear gap appearing under the nearside headlight (see pic). The extent of the contact with the track was apparent in the 3rd pic, when we took the nose cone off and looked underneath!
We had a short period before the 2nd session, so we set about hacking off the whole of the splitter with the tools to hand - some tin snips. A short while later, with some nice, blue, gaffer tape over the hacking, the nose was back on, with about 10 minutes to spare before the 2nd session.
2nd post to follow shortly.....
Clive was parked up in just near the bottom of Paddock Hill and all access to the usual good places to take photos were locked off, so my photos aren't that good, taken with a 300mm lens from where we were parked, trying to get a clear shot over (or through) the the wire fence! I'll post a few track shots in a 2nd post.
Amazingly, from our position in the Paddock, I could see the main straight marshal's post and saw a black flag come out and knew from my timing that Clive might be the "victim" and, sure enough, I knew it was him when he came into view a couple of seconds later. I wondered if it might have been noise, as Clive was aware he was near the limit - enough though his car sounded quieter than many others as he passed me on track. It was a relief when he reappeared later in the session, but I had no idea at that point what the issue was.
When the 1st session ended and he came back to the paddock, it was immediately clear the splitter wasn't sitting right, closer inspection showed the whole nose cone was being pulled downward (possibly as a result of the splitter catching on the track surface), with a clear gap appearing under the nearside headlight (see pic). The extent of the contact with the track was apparent in the 3rd pic, when we took the nose cone off and looked underneath!
We had a short period before the 2nd session, so we set about hacking off the whole of the splitter with the tools to hand - some tin snips. A short while later, with some nice, blue, gaffer tape over the hacking, the nose was back on, with about 10 minutes to spare before the 2nd session.
2nd post to follow shortly.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:38:38 PM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:38:38 PM
I didn't do any timing on the first session, but did time most laps on the 2nd session and was impressed with the times and consistency. I could see Clive was enjoying himself out there, initially with a Boxter, then a Sierra Cosworth and then with 2 white Ginetta G55's. Seeing him overtake one of the G55's at Druids was quite a surprise, and then to stay ahead and chase the second one was epic!
Clive ran consistently throughout the entire 30 minute session, which was an amazing test for the car (and driver!). When he came back into the paddock both Lisa and I noticed he had a wide smile on his face ;D
With just the nose/splitter to tidy up for Clive's race, he and the car seem well set for the start of the season :icon_thumleft:
Here's a few pics from the 1st session. In the first 2 pics, Clive is overtaking two cars on the entry to Druids by going between them ;)
The 3rd pic is the first time down towards Graham Hill bend, where you can see the splitter centre part is clearly OK, and angle updwards. The next picture is about 3 minutes later, as Clive comes into view at the end of the main straight, and you can see the splitter is now facing downward.
2nd session pics soon....
Clive ran consistently throughout the entire 30 minute session, which was an amazing test for the car (and driver!). When he came back into the paddock both Lisa and I noticed he had a wide smile on his face ;D
With just the nose/splitter to tidy up for Clive's race, he and the car seem well set for the start of the season :icon_thumleft:
Here's a few pics from the 1st session. In the first 2 pics, Clive is overtaking two cars on the entry to Druids by going between them ;)
The 3rd pic is the first time down towards Graham Hill bend, where you can see the splitter centre part is clearly OK, and angle updwards. The next picture is about 3 minutes later, as Clive comes into view at the end of the main straight, and you can see the splitter is now facing downward.
2nd session pics soon....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:52:43 PM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:52:43 PM
Overtaking a Ginetta G55 into Druids:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Post by: Casey on May 08, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Out in front ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
So care to Share the time? Or is best kept quiet atmo..
5?...mmm 52 would be nice? Pm fine Casey.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 06:53:54 PM
Post by: clive on May 08, 2021, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 08, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
So care to Share the time? Or is best kept quiet atmo..
5?...mmm 52 would be nice? Pm fine Casey.
52 Clive HAYNSFORD LAP LAP TIME DIFF TIME OF DAY SECTOR 1 SECTOR 2 Mazda RX8
IDEAL LAP TIME : 53.025 BEST LAP TIME : 53.316 DIFFERENCE : 0.291
Track was not good and slow, never is when Radicals are about as they shed so much rubber and junk on the track, they had their own sessions.
We had them at Brands last Thunder race and everyone complained they had lost a second during the race over qually due to the Radicals hitting the track.
Worked out already where I can be quicker and why I didn't sus out the gear box (I do my own de-brief after every time) ;)
Trust me those Ginetta were really pushing as I could tell with some of the desperate late braking and loss of tyre grip :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 07:01:07 PM
Post by: boosted on May 08, 2021, 07:01:07 PM
Epic. Well done.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 08, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
Sounds like a good productive day
Big fat tick in the box
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:19:21 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:19:21 PM
A great report and nice to see the benefits of the winter break showing good promise. for race day and no 
!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: noyzboy on May 09, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Post by: noyzboy on May 09, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Excellent to see that the driver is on top form as well.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2021, 09:30:07 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 09, 2021, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: clive on May 08, 2021, 06:53:54 PMThat's good going to be that close to a half second of possible bestQuote from: boosted on May 08, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
So care to Share the time? Or is best kept quiet atmo..
5?...mmm 52 would be nice? Pm fine Casey.
52 Clive HAYNSFORD LAP LAP TIME DIFF TIME OF DAY SECTOR 1 SECTOR 2 Mazda RX8
IDEAL LAP TIME : 53.025 BEST LAP TIME : 53.316 DIFFERENCE : 0.291
Track was not good and slow, never is when Radicals are about as they shed so much rubber and junk on the track, they had their own sessions.
We had them at Brands last Thunder race and everyone complained they had lost a second during the race over qually due to the Radicals hitting the track.
Worked out already where I can be quicker and why I didn't sus out the gear box (I do my own de-brief after every time) ;)
Trust me those Ginetta were really pushing as I could tell with some of the desperate late braking and loss of tyre grip :)
Good on you Clive very consistent
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 09, 2021, 11:48:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 09, 2021, 11:48:52 PM
Great to see you put in the car ready Clive. I can't remember who it was that told me but that person said that with a dog box you have to be aggressive with them because if you don't and you try treat them like a synchro gear box they are hard work and can break.
They're made to be bang shifted if that makes sense.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Post by: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Spoke to Jonathan Smith today who was a great help and totally agreed with his line of thought and I through his info even worked out where the splitter was killing itself.
Due to more grip from the new tyres, I was going through Paddock faster and bottoming the car harder than normal, with the splitter literally on the ground the air had to go somewhere and because it couldn't go under the splitter then under the car, all that air pressure went onto the top of the splitter and killed it!
Jonathan worked out that I need a hulk like splitter that's detached from the nose attached directly to the chassis that can never flex. Upside is it will make more downforce as well :).
Due to more grip from the new tyres, I was going through Paddock faster and bottoming the car harder than normal, with the splitter literally on the ground the air had to go somewhere and because it couldn't go under the splitter then under the car, all that air pressure went onto the top of the splitter and killed it!
Jonathan worked out that I need a hulk like splitter that's detached from the nose attached directly to the chassis that can never flex. Upside is it will make more downforce as well :).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:34:26 PM
Post by: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 09, 2021, 11:48:52 PM
Great to see you put in the car ready Clive. I can't remember who it was that told me but that person said that with a dog box you have to be aggressive with them because if you don't and you try treat them like a synchro gear box they are hard work and can break.
They're made to be bang shifted if that makes sense.
Bang shifting up was not an issue and I can change as fast as any sequential box (for a fraction of the price)
I do like to be as kind as possible to a car and changing down was giving a crunch which when changing down, but I think some of that was me.
I think I will have to double de clutch like I had to years ago with old Fodens and things I used to road test, but with out using the clutch.
In other words, to change down, get it out of gear, blip the throttle then down a gear. Not sure if the nut behind the wheel will master that though ::) Either that or just like I saw in BTCC at the weekend, just bash it down the box!
If this approach is slower then brutal it will have to be,
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2021, 08:43:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 11, 2021, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:32:31 PMWell it's good to get feedback from an "expert"
Spoke to Jonathan Smith today who was a great help and totally agreed with his line of thought and I through his info even worked out where the splitter was killing itself.
Due to more grip from the new tyres, I was going through Paddock faster and bottoming the car harder than normal, with the splitter literally on the ground the air had to go somewhere and because it couldn't go under the splitter then under the car, all that air pressure went onto the top of the splitter and killed it!
Jonathan worked out that I need a hulk like splitter that's detached from the nose attached directly to the chassis that can never flex. Upside is it will make more downforce as well :).
I predict some more work for Steve lol.
Hopefully the guess work on my stepped splitter will allow air to get under and work.
Just hope it doesn't have that much downforce it pulls the front end off the car lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2021, 08:47:21 PM
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2021, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: clive on May 11, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Due to more grip from the new tyres, I was going through Paddock faster and bottoming the car harder than normal, with the splitter literally on the ground.....
That fits. I was watching from near the bottom of Paddock Hill, when the car suspension would be compressing just into the rise up to Druids. Every time you came through there in the first session, before the black flag, there was a brief, but very (VERY) loud "metallic/crashing" sound. That would have been the splitter hitting the deck and leading to the consequent air inflicted damage.
That test session proved very valuable :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 15, 2021, 07:43:07 PM
Post by: clive on May 15, 2021, 07:43:07 PM
Getting ready for Mallory next Saturday.
I was going to modify and use last years splitter but Steve save No, No, No, and we embarked on the new supa doopa splitter attached to the chassis, not the nose, you will also see a new piece of sheet along side the sump in the quest to make more of a flat floor for more downforce.
Steve spent all day on it (thankyou :great:) and we are now a long way into getting it finished and screwed together for next week.
All this means the air going under the car will now be much more controlled with no flexing , also we will leave the cannards off as I believe these were now slowing the car on the straights.
I was going to modify and use last years splitter but Steve save No, No, No, and we embarked on the new supa doopa splitter attached to the chassis, not the nose, you will also see a new piece of sheet along side the sump in the quest to make more of a flat floor for more downforce.
Steve spent all day on it (thankyou :great:) and we are now a long way into getting it finished and screwed together for next week.
All this means the air going under the car will now be much more controlled with no flexing , also we will leave the cannards off as I believe these were now slowing the car on the straights.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 15, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
Post by: clive on May 15, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 07:54:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 07:54:49 PM
Looking good Clive. Such and advantage having a car hoist. Turns a 3 hour job on your back into something a little bit more comfortable
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
Gotta ask..... are the air horns strictly necessary ??
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 09:26:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PMFeed your inner redneck
Gotta ask..... are the air horns strictly necessary
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 15, 2021, 10:38:27 PM
Post by: boosted on May 15, 2021, 10:38:27 PM
I took them off once....in the pursuit of weight saving... i had a feeling they would find there way back on. Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 10:39:02 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 09:26:07 PMLol - fair enoughQuote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PMFeed your inner redneck
Gotta ask..... are the air horns strictly necessary
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
Gotta ask..... are the air horns strictly necessary
The Air horns are my thank you to the marshals.
I will explain ;)
Without the volunteer marshals who don't get paid, quite simply we would not be racing :(.
On the slowing down lap they always clap and wave the cars back in, so a beep beep on the air horns is my way of acknowledging them to say thankyou for giving up their time for me to go racing :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 16, 2021, 11:05:32 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 16, 2021, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: clive on May 16, 2021, 10:53:58 AMAh haQuote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:22:28 PM
Gotta ask..... are the air horns strictly necessary
The Air horns are my thank you to the marshals.
I will explain ;)
Without the volunteer marshals who don't get paid, quite simply we would not be racing :(.
On the slowing down lap they always clap and wave the cars back in, so a beep beep on the air horns is my way of acknowledging them to say thankyou for giving up their time for me to go racing :great:
Now that makes sense. I had assumed using them to signal "I'm coming past!" may be considered un-sportsman like Big horns to thank the men and women who give up their time to marshall these events is far better than a little "beep beep" ! Red neck outfit put firmly back in the closet
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on May 16, 2021, 11:15:04 AM
Post by: jinx on May 16, 2021, 11:15:04 AM
Quote
The Air horns are my thank you to the marshals. I will explain ;) Without the volunteer marshals who don't get paid, quite simply we would not be racing :(.
On the slowing down lap they always clap and wave the cars back in, so a beep beep on the air horns is my way of acknowledging them to say thankyou for giving up their time for me to go racing :great:
Surely it remains questionable whether they are all Dukes of Hazard fans or wish they were in Dixie? :D
Come on now, embrace the shame as well as Jamie suggests, your inner redneck :D
All the best for Mallory
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 11:46:04 AM
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: jinx on May 16, 2021, 11:15:04 AM
Come on now, embrace the shame as well as Jamie suggests, your inner redneck :D
All the best for Mallory
Need a few more horns to make a tune though :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Definition of a redneck.......
A glorified absence of sophistication
We've all been guilty of that at some point in our lives. I know I have.
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We've all been guilty of that at some point in our lives. I know I have.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 07:17:06 PM
Post by: clive on May 16, 2021, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 16, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Definition of a redneck.......
A glorified absence of sophistication
We've all been guilty of that at some point in our lives. I know I have.
Yep, I can go with that ;D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 18, 2021, 09:52:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 18, 2021, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: jinx on May 16, 2021, 11:15:04 AMHey Andrew, dropped you a pm on 7th may, let me know if this is something you can help withQuote
The Air horns are my thank you to the marshals. I will explain ;) Without the volunteer marshals who don't get paid, quite simply we would not be racing :(.
On the slowing down lap they always clap and wave the cars back in, so a beep beep on the air horns is my way of acknowledging them to say thankyou for giving up their time for me to go racing :great:
Surely it remains questionable whether they are all Dukes of Hazard fans or wish they were in Dixie? :D
Come on now, embrace the shame as well as Jamie suggests, your inner redneck :D
All the best for Mallory
Thanks
J
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 19, 2021, 09:31:12 PM
Post by: clive on May 19, 2021, 09:31:12 PM
Been a busy week or two on the race car, splitters now firmly attached to the chassis and super strong so no more flexing.
Steve has been exercising, or should that be exorcising his excellent fabrication skills all day on the rear wing blade. Now complete with a special lightweight alloy tube on the front edge so it cant collapse anymore.
Nearly ready for Mallory now thanks to Steve and if all goes OK Donnington on the following Monday
Steve has been exercising, or should that be exorcising his excellent fabrication skills all day on the rear wing blade. Now complete with a special lightweight alloy tube on the front edge so it cant collapse anymore.
Nearly ready for Mallory now thanks to Steve and if all goes OK Donnington on the following Monday
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 20, 2021, 01:19:47 PM
Looking good captain
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2021, 01:33:33 PM
Post by: boosted on May 20, 2021, 01:33:33 PM
My Chinese 1 was hollow and abit floopy. I filled with expanding foam.. light but firmed it up no end.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 20, 2021, 02:07:44 PM
Post by: Casey on May 20, 2021, 02:07:44 PM
Nice work, Steve and Clive :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Mallory Park
Post by: clive on May 20, 2021, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: clive on May 20, 2021, 06:33:25 PM
For those that are interested :13: here is the link to the live timings for Saturday at Mallory. Time table attached
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/212031?fbclid=IwAR3867sX2U5sap1ZEKnb_FnZmSPtj9DNPK0iLt-aSf8kgnhSHK1fr5o4jrw
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/212031?fbclid=IwAR3867sX2U5sap1ZEKnb_FnZmSPtj9DNPK0iLt-aSf8kgnhSHK1fr5o4jrw
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 20, 2021, 09:18:34 PM
Post by: clive on May 20, 2021, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 20, 2021, 01:33:33 PM
My Chinese 1 was hollow and abit floopy. I filled with expanding foam.. light but firmed it up no end.
Well i never, I didn't know you was Chinese :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 21, 2021, 01:49:35 PM
Post by: boosted on May 21, 2021, 01:49:35 PM
I expected that from Jamie but not you Clive lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 07:35:27 AM
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 07:35:27 AM
Good luck today.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 22, 2021, 08:23:49 AM
Post by: Casey on May 22, 2021, 08:23:49 AM
Good luck Clive!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 10:03:29 AM
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 10:03:29 AM
Smashed the qualifying...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210522/11c772631fce73b302ca6b412b9ff948.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on May 22, 2021, 11:35:07 AM
Post by: jinx on May 22, 2021, 11:35:07 AM
Encouraging! :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 22, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
Post by: Casey on May 22, 2021, 11:53:42 AM
Race started well early!
Amazing I switched on the race started within 30 secs :)
Clive in lead on lap 4, but safety car has been out for 2-3 laps.
Ooops - RED FLAG!
Race "Finished"??
Only 3 laps completed.
Amazing I switched on the race started within 30 secs :)
Clive in lead on lap 4, but safety car has been out for 2-3 laps.
Ooops - RED FLAG!
Race "Finished"??
Only 3 laps completed.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 22, 2021, 12:10:51 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 22, 2021, 12:10:51 PM
You can watch it live here
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
Post by: boosted on May 22, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I cant see Clive? 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 22, 2021, 12:59:02 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 22, 2021, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 22, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I cant see Clive?
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You can reply the race if you move the timeline slider. Clive retired on about lap 4 with smoke coming from what looked like the rear of the car. It looked to me like near side rear brake or something rubbing. I don't think it was engine
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 22, 2021, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: clive on May 22, 2021, 09:59:00 PM
Well, a mixed start to the season. As above, stuck it on pole In qualifying with 33 cars on track, unable to get a clear lap, led the race setting fastest lap but broke the new diff nose support bracket we just fitted, which was the first DNF in three years so it went on the trailer and home for a revised bracket to be designed for next Monday's race at Donnington with Thunder Saloons .
BTW The smoke some saw was the propshaft sliding out of the gear box causing an oil leak onto the exhaust.
BTW The smoke some saw was the propshaft sliding out of the gear box causing an oil leak onto the exhaust.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 22, 2021, 10:17:01 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 22, 2021, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: clive on May 22, 2021, 09:59:00 PMSpotted your car today as I was coming back from Lydden Hill on the M2.
Well, a mixed start to the season. As above, stuck it on pole In qualifying with 33 cars on track, unable to get a clear lap, led the race setting fastest lap but broke the new diff nose support bracket we just fitted, which was the first DNF in three years so it went on the trailer and home for a revised bracket to be designed for next Monday's race at Donnington with Thunder Saloons .
BTW The smoke some saw was the propshaft sliding out of the gear box causing an oil leak onto the exhaust.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
"Spotted your car today as I was coming back from Lydden Hill on the M2"
What was you racing?
What was you racing?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 23, 2021, 09:38:22 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 23, 2021, 09:38:22 AM
Quote from: clive on May 23, 2021, 09:23:19 AMTrack Day
"Spotted your car today as I was coming back from Lydden Hill on the M2"
What was you racing?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 23, 2021, 10:12:39 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 23, 2021, 10:12:39 AM
Clive and Leclerc on pole in the same week end! :13:
Really enjoyed seeing the Rx8 plow through that pack of hot hatches! Shame about the DNF. Hopefully not too much work to put right. Best of luck with the repairs and improvements! Looking forward to Donington already.
Really enjoyed seeing the Rx8 plow through that pack of hot hatches! Shame about the DNF. Hopefully not too much work to put right. Best of luck with the repairs and improvements! Looking forward to Donington already.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 23, 2021, 10:53:26 AM
Post by: Prototype on May 23, 2021, 10:53:26 AM
Here is race one from Tony Hunters car
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
Post by: Casey on May 23, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
Some good laptimes in practise and going well until the bracing failure. Hopefully not too difficult to fix. Real shame this didn't show itself in the Brands Hatch test sessions :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 11:05:53 AM
Onwards upwards.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
Good going Clive
Is there a way of re engineering the PPF amd attaching to the new gear box ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2021, 11:30:43 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 23, 2021, 11:30:43 AM
Sorry I missed the race captain, I was up to my neck in wires and switches with the father in laws Locost grrrrrrr.
I was chatting to Jon briefly yesterday and I said I'm surprised it broke it looks triangulated enough.
Looking at the pics I don't think there's anything wrong with the design, maybe the materials used.
Maybe dig deep for some chomoly tube or t45 and get steve to hone his tig wleding skills lol.
Just my 2 pence worth. Good look for the next race
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I was chatting to Jon briefly yesterday and I said I'm surprised it broke it looks triangulated enough.
Looking at the pics I don't think there's anything wrong with the design, maybe the materials used.
Maybe dig deep for some chomoly tube or t45 and get steve to hone his tig wleding skills lol.
Just my 2 pence worth. Good look for the next race
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
Good going Clive
Is there a way of re engineering the PPF amd attaching to the new gear box ?
Not going to do that, but all will be revealed in a couple of days.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 01:58:36 PM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 23, 2021, 11:30:43 AM
Sorry I missed the race captain, I was up to my neck in wires and switches with the father in laws Locost grrrrrrr.
Just my 2 pence worth. Good look for the next race
Dont worry you didn't miss much ;)
Thank you for the good look wish for next monday :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: clive on May 23, 2021, 01:56:08 PMGood newsQuote from: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
Good going Clive
Is there a way of re engineering the PPF amd attaching to the new gear box ?
Not going to do that, but all will be revealed in a couple of days.
My mate has had same troubles when he put a V8 in his MK 1 MX5
Not sure what he's planning to fix it yet
He's currently not driving it like a loon .....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
Here's the re-start from the race
https://youtu.be/HhKZkIsblOA
Found a couple of good pictures from yesterday, thank you to Andrew (Jinx) for the new style RBE sticker design
https://youtu.be/HhKZkIsblOA
Found a couple of good pictures from yesterday, thank you to Andrew (Jinx) for the new style RBE sticker design
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 03:30:27 PM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 03:30:27 PM
One more
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 04:41:58 PM
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 04:41:58 PM
Clive is that dog box clutchless downshift? The lock up was that brake or engine braking?
If clutchless how do you rev match it...gonna take some getting use to for sure...staggered ratios or such like?
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If clutchless how do you rev match it...gonna take some getting use to for sure...staggered ratios or such like?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 05:41:25 PM
Post by: clive on May 23, 2021, 05:41:25 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 23, 2021, 04:41:58 PM
Clive is that dog box clutchless downshift? The lock up was that brake or engine braking?
If clutchless how do you rev match it...gonna take some getting use to for sure...staggered ratios or such like?
The lock up was slamming the box down to 1st gear!
The dox boxes I have had in the past have changed up and down with no clutch, this one changes up perfect but hates changing down,
I tried all sorts of things to change down,bearing in mind over the years I have even driven lorries that had "crash" gearboxes with no syncro's and still no good.
I am now sure I have a clutch release issue. On the line for the restart the pedal was litterally on the floor which probably contributed to a bad start!
When the cars cold the pedal is OK but not hot, bearing in mind I have race fluid and a braided hose, I suspect the master cylinder.
I remember early RX-8's had master issues so I will change that and lengthen the rod to give more travel, hopefully this will sort the changing down
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
Cool. Fingers crossed. That must be so strange changing gear without clutch. I remember years ago driving my first auto and pressing the brake pedal like a clutch pedal...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 24, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
Post by: boosted on May 24, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
I rewatched the pescari youtube channel coverage posted by Philip above. Hes got race 1 and race1 restart. Good watch.
Makes a funny comment "that mazda has 4000bhp" lol. From facebook posts i read he got his entry ticket from 1 of the other track attack race drivers....
Guess who? Answers on a post card to pls?
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Makes a funny comment "that mazda has 4000bhp" lol. From facebook posts i read he got his entry ticket from 1 of the other track attack race drivers....
Guess who? Answers on a post card to pls?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 24, 2021, 09:44:47 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 24, 2021, 09:44:47 PM
Here is the Qualifying. Race 1 to come :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 24, 2021, 10:15:46 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 24, 2021, 10:15:46 PM
Race 1 The Restart. No point in posting the first start as Clive is so far out in front you don't see anyone else :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 25, 2021, 08:57:25 AM
Post by: clive on May 25, 2021, 08:57:25 AM
Thanks Phillip for getting this out quick.
Painful to watch, really hope sorting the clutch issue helps the thing change down.
On Monday the whole event will be live on the British Automobile Racing Club (BARC) You Tube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfRW9SWDCCA&list=PLq7G7RpK5FWq6VeD-0NNVOc3aRIjHnX9v&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZf3wEugCbSW3GX9HvjPmRQ
Painful to watch, really hope sorting the clutch issue helps the thing change down.
On Monday the whole event will be live on the British Automobile Racing Club (BARC) You Tube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfRW9SWDCCA&list=PLq7G7RpK5FWq6VeD-0NNVOc3aRIjHnX9v&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZf3wEugCbSW3GX9HvjPmRQ
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 25, 2021, 11:53:41 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 25, 2021, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: clive on May 25, 2021, 08:57:25 AMThat downshift into the hairpin sounds so cruel ....
Thanks Phillip for getting this out quick.
Painful to watch, really hope sorting the clutch issue helps the thing change down.
On Monday the whole event will be live on the British Automobile Racing Club (BARC) You Tube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfRW9SWDCCA&list=PLq7G7RpK5FWq6VeD-0NNVOc3aRIjHnX9v&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZf3wEugCbSW3GX9HvjPmRQ
But Ive never driven a car with a dog box
Hopefully other circuits will be a bit easier on it
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 25, 2021, 11:58:29 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 25, 2021, 11:58:29 AM
Oh yeah
Car sounds amazing through the speakers of my van
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
Post by: boosted on May 25, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
Is it worth too after the master and slave swap a drop of the gearbox oil? See if its nice and clean no swarf just incase?.
Again no knowledge of dog boxes...any specific oil required for them?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 27, 2021, 02:24:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 27, 2021, 02:24:29 PM
Clive is it worth having a bracket around the diff which is fixed on via the screws for the diff cover, and use longer screws to compensate for the thicker material around the diff?
Doing that along with the bracing you have will stop the diff moving or twisting as I would imagine your diff brace has broken due to the twisting/torque of the diff?
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Doing that along with the bracing you have will stop the diff moving or twisting as I would imagine your diff brace has broken due to the twisting/torque of the diff?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 28, 2021, 08:19:36 PM
Post by: clive on May 28, 2021, 08:19:36 PM
Thanks Grant but the cars now sorted. We took a slightly backward step and Steve fabricated half of the old PPF so it bolts rigid directly onto the chassis and up into the tunnel so I cant see there being any more issues.
I also finaly sorted the clutch issue that plauged me at Mallory.
For Mondays race the Track Attack sticker has been "modified"!
I also finaly sorted the clutch issue that plauged me at Mallory.
For Mondays race the Track Attack sticker has been "modified"!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 28, 2021, 09:16:22 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 28, 2021, 09:16:22 PM
Quote from: clive on May 28, 2021, 08:19:36 PMI do think a sticker like the T shift would look rather good with the series mentioned
Thanks Grant but the cars now sorted. We took a slightly backward step and Steve fabricated half of the old PPF so it bolts rigid directly onto the chassis and up into the tunnel so I cant see there being any more issues.
I also finaly sorted the clutch issue that plauged me at Mallory.
For Mondays race the Track Attack sticker has been "modified"!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 29, 2021, 01:06:35 PM
Post by: Casey on May 29, 2021, 01:06:35 PM
:)) :)) Nice sticker mod - didn't add too much weight either ;)
Good luck on Monday Clive. I hope to watch it live online :icon_thumleft:
Good luck on Monday Clive. I hope to watch it live online :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
Best of luck tomorrow Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 30, 2021, 10:11:04 PM
Post by: clive on May 30, 2021, 10:11:04 PM
Thanks for the wishes, I need it tomorrow also got a 7 litre FD on the grid of 30 cars with me and that's without the other monsters !
Mind you, gone up in the world, even got a garage with these guys :great:
Mind you, gone up in the world, even got a garage with these guys :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 31, 2021, 06:48:39 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on May 31, 2021, 06:48:39 AM
Good luck Clive. Give them all a nice view of your exhaust flames
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 08:10:22 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 08:10:22 AM
Im here(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210531/adb1f01a854540cf0f79329980396564.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on May 31, 2021, 09:59:16 AM
Post by: jinx on May 31, 2021, 09:59:16 AM
And I'm here.....waiting for the BARC to sort out their live feed which meant nothing on screen during the 9.10 qualifying session. :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
All good. Gearbox sorted.nothing todo on car. No idea on times tsl down.
Clives car is quiet compared to some of these monster. Pitlane i had my fingers in my ears. Sound of Thunder..pardon?
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Clives car is quiet compared to some of these monster. Pitlane i had my fingers in my ears. Sound of Thunder..pardon?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 31, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 31, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Good luck Clive. Hope you get a good day's racing!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
Watched the TSL timing for qualification and it was fine until 6 minutes to go in the session, then it froze. Clive was 19th fastest at that point. No published data on TSL, so no idea of the grid positions for first race.
TSL now working and live stream OK too.
TSL now working and live stream OK too.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 11:52:17 AM
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 11:52:17 AM
Row 13 for first race, right in the middle of the pack!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on May 31, 2021, 12:05:22 PM
Post by: Prototype on May 31, 2021, 12:05:22 PM
First race just about to start. View it here live
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 01:19:18 PM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 01:19:18 PM
Car ok. Driver ok..
Driver wants new diff gearing to exit corners faster.
Gearbox downshift absolutely spot on.
Weather awesome. Nice n sunny.
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Driver wants new diff gearing to exit corners faster.
Gearbox downshift absolutely spot on.
Weather awesome. Nice n sunny.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
Post by: Casey on May 31, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
Watched the first race live - good to see Clive edge up a few places from his grid position :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
Post by: boosted on May 31, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
Brill day. Just got in Bring on the Thunder.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2021, 08:46:21 AM
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2021, 08:46:21 AM
2 little vids and some pics of cars i took on the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOpR3KGkoYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT1wVuKUjxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOpR3KGkoYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT1wVuKUjxk
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2021, 08:59:26 AM
Post by: boosted on June 01, 2021, 08:59:26 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 01, 2021, 01:17:23 PM
Post by: clive on June 01, 2021, 01:17:23 PM
Hi All,
Well good news is cars back in one bit and engines fine with 60 races on it, had a great tussle with Kevin Denwood's BMW E46 then playing with my old mate Tony Paxman's Escort swapping places just like we did 40 years ago!
Bad news is to put it bluntly, yesterday the car was junk, no power due to somehow running too rich and diff gearing way off leaving me to wait forever for boost to appear on two corners then the chicane. To put it into prospective, looked at my data sheets and three years ago on a cold damp day in October on track day tyres and 140 bhp less I was 2.5 seconds quicker!, so we had best not write the car off just yet ;) . Still had a good day though so thank you to the organisers and to the many drivers who welcomed me, after last weeks Mallory debacle :great: .
(Thanks also go to Jon and Jim for assisting)
Well good news is cars back in one bit and engines fine with 60 races on it, had a great tussle with Kevin Denwood's BMW E46 then playing with my old mate Tony Paxman's Escort swapping places just like we did 40 years ago!
Bad news is to put it bluntly, yesterday the car was junk, no power due to somehow running too rich and diff gearing way off leaving me to wait forever for boost to appear on two corners then the chicane. To put it into prospective, looked at my data sheets and three years ago on a cold damp day in October on track day tyres and 140 bhp less I was 2.5 seconds quicker!, so we had best not write the car off just yet ;) . Still had a good day though so thank you to the organisers and to the many drivers who welcomed me, after last weeks Mallory debacle :great: .
(Thanks also go to Jon and Jim for assisting)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on June 01, 2021, 02:27:33 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on June 01, 2021, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: clive on June 01, 2021, 01:17:23 PMJust spotted again... London bound A2 just past Bluewater
Hi All,
Well good news is cars back in one bit and engines fine with 60 races on it, had a great tussle with Kevin Denwood's BMW E46 then playing with my old mate Tony Paxman's Escort swapping places just like we did 40 years ago!
Bad news is to put it bluntly, yesterday the car was junk, no power due to somehow running too rich and diff gearing way off leaving me to wait forever for boost to appear on two corners then the chicane. To put it into prospective, looked at my data sheets and three years ago on a cold damp day in October on track day tyres and 140 bhp less I was 2.5 seconds quicker!, so we had best not write the car off just yet ;) . Still had a good day though so thank you to the organisers and to the many drivers who welcomed me, after last weeks Mallory debacle :great: .
(Thanks also go to Jon and Jim for assisting)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2021, 07:13:45 PM
Post by: Casey on June 01, 2021, 07:13:45 PM
Great pictures Jon :icon_thumleft: Looking through those gave a good feel for the event "vibes" on the day.
Sounds like some more work to do before the next race Clive - very strange for this power issue not to show up earlier at Brands or Mallory. At least you finished both races, improved on your grid position in both and drove home with the car in one piece. Looks like you had some fun tussling with other cars too.
Onwards and upwards :icon_thumleft:
Sounds like some more work to do before the next race Clive - very strange for this power issue not to show up earlier at Brands or Mallory. At least you finished both races, improved on your grid position in both and drove home with the car in one piece. Looks like you had some fun tussling with other cars too.
Onwards and upwards :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 08:49:22 AM
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 08:49:22 AM
Here is Race 1
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 08:57:01 AM
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 08:57:01 AM
Oh look at those 105e's mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That yellow mini looks something else too.
I wish I could have found time to go that day !
That yellow mini looks something else too.
I wish I could have found time to go that day !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
thats a manly gear change.
Definately a positive clunk
Definately a positive clunk
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 01:40:55 PM
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on June 02, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
thats a manly gear change.
Definately a positive clunk
Apart from the first 3 minutes of the footage where I got the sound sync wrong. I didn't notice until after I posted it :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:08:20 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:08:20 PM
This series is so cool.. cool cars cool people. Guy on the pitlane was one of the front running Falcon guys.. so friendly... i was blown away tbh. Reignited a racing passion too lol. I chatted to so many people in the pits all great apart from 1 who didnt like me taking a piccy but his car was bumped so prob understandable. 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:10:51 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:10:51 PM
3/4 july at Combe.. need to come...hear these monsters on pitwall.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:12:09 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:12:09 PM
I have a wager.. year 3 thunder Clive will win championship.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 02, 2021, 07:10:51 PM
3/4 july at Combe.. need to come...hear these monsters on pitwall.
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I might finally get to meet you then Jon as it is my plan to be there too :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 10:01:12 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2021, 10:01:12 PM
Cool. Ill be there both days
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 11:02:36 PM
Post by: Prototype on June 02, 2021, 11:02:36 PM
Race 2 people ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 03, 2021, 05:44:49 PM
Post by: Casey on June 03, 2021, 05:44:49 PM
:icon_thumright: Thanks Philip, I really enjoy watching those in car videos!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
Post by: boosted on June 03, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
Yep great job
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 03, 2021, 09:07:49 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 03, 2021, 09:07:49 PM
Is like to know how you switch the camera from front to back
It's brilliant
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2021, 09:49:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2021, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 03, 2021, 09:07:49 PMI'm going to guess that the cameras are time synced, so you cut and paste which piece of footage you want into where you want it, so long as the time stamps stop and start at the right time?
Is like to know how you switch the camera from front to back
It's brilliant
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Same with the audio over laid?
Iv never edited a video in my. Life though so
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 04, 2021, 10:13:07 PM
Post by: clive on June 04, 2021, 10:13:07 PM
Many thanks to our producer and editor for more excellent video's
Now for the not so good news, after four years and 60 races I finally have to pull the engine out of the bay.
Trip up to Pip's set it up on the dyno, pulled the plugs and found the rear leading plug wet, stuck a new plug in and it disturbed the crack around the plug hole and pressurised the water system.
Going to be like triggers broom, same engine with different bits! Seriously it's not like the engine has blown up, I just need to pull the back of the engine off and change the rear rotor housing.
On a different note, as some know I was considering a 3 rotor engine but after a long discussion with Pip we won't be going down that route after realising how much weight it will add to the car also just how fragile in comparison to a 13B the 3 rotor will be on track so we will develop what I have further over the winter.
Now for the not so good news, after four years and 60 races I finally have to pull the engine out of the bay.
Trip up to Pip's set it up on the dyno, pulled the plugs and found the rear leading plug wet, stuck a new plug in and it disturbed the crack around the plug hole and pressurised the water system.
Going to be like triggers broom, same engine with different bits! Seriously it's not like the engine has blown up, I just need to pull the back of the engine off and change the rear rotor housing.
On a different note, as some know I was considering a 3 rotor engine but after a long discussion with Pip we won't be going down that route after realising how much weight it will add to the car also just how fragile in comparison to a 13B the 3 rotor will be on track so we will develop what I have further over the winter.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2021, 10:22:15 PM
Post by: boosted on June 04, 2021, 10:22:15 PM
Ahhh! That explains it.
Not worth rebuilding the lot?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2021, 11:52:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 04, 2021, 11:52:44 PM
I bet many other piston engines you have competed against have had a full year down and rebuild at least on e a year, and I bet some of those thunder saloons twice a year.
Same seals and everything and a new used rear housing?
I think over the winter you should semi pp it to go along with your street port that will give it a good more ooomf
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Same seals and everything and a new used rear housing?
I think over the winter you should semi pp it to go along with your street port
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 10:39:03 AM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: boosted on June 04, 2021, 10:22:15 PM
Ahhh! That explains it.
Not worth rebuilding the lot?
No time to run in again, so if everything is in tolerance it will get the same seals and everything on the new rear housing.
I need to get the car sorted asap and back up to Pips for a re-check
Hopfully the car will be quicker next time than in this picture.
Grant, we have fully investigated any kind of PP or bridge and its no good for me as the power band will be too high and the car would junk off the corners and be undrivable in the wet! (Pip showed me dyno data even on a 20b pp and still the power comes in too high for my needs)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:07:27 AM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:07:27 AM
Ok boss. Triggers broom it is lol. Thunder at Combe is both days race 1 sat race 2 sunday yeah?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 11:11:57 AM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:07:27 AM
Ok boss. Triggers broom it is lol. Thunder at Combe is both days race 1 sat race 2 sunday yeah?
Yes Qually and race 1 sat, race 2 sun
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:16:37 AM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:16:37 AM
cool. Well if anything is needed saturday. Have full access to 4 ramp fully functional garage overnight if hopefully not needed local. ( pack Steve in your toolbox lol). Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 01:09:15 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2021, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 05, 2021, 11:16:37 AM
All sorted but
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2021, 05:54:29 AM
Post by: re japi on June 06, 2021, 05:54:29 AM
How about semi pp? Considered that?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 12, 2021, 08:17:40 PM
Post by: clive on June 12, 2021, 08:17:40 PM
Quote from: re japi on June 06, 2021, 05:54:29 AM
How about semi pp?
Power still won't come in early enough or smooth enough for me ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 12, 2021, 08:26:38 PM
Post by: clive on June 12, 2021, 08:26:38 PM
So far on schedule for Coombe in three weeks time.
Dropped the engine back in the bay today complete with two brand new FD housings >:D.
Turns out the rear housing had a crack around the plug hole which let some water in and knocked out a plug but also the front exhaust insert had collapsed, no wonder I had no power!.
Laughingly this also means that in the last couple of races with Track Attack I was also down on power!.
Dropped the engine back in the bay today complete with two brand new FD housings >:D.
Turns out the rear housing had a crack around the plug hole which let some water in and knocked out a plug but also the front exhaust insert had collapsed, no wonder I had no power!.
Laughingly this also means that in the last couple of races with Track Attack I was also down on power!.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2021, 08:34:56 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2021, 08:34:56 PM
This is what i think it is? im coming both days? That ok?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 13, 2021, 10:32:04 AM
Post by: clive on June 13, 2021, 10:32:04 AM
Yep, that's my catch can oil drain
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Good news Clive
Should have it fired up soon then
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2021, 11:13:48 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2021, 11:13:48 AM
Why do exhaust insert collapse? Also what causes crack around spark plug holes?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 14, 2021, 10:16:01 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2021, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2021, 11:13:48 AM
Why do exhaust insert collapse? Also what causes crack around spark plug holes?
Looks like the floor of the port was cut too low leading to much flow/ heat going up under the insert which long term caused the failure.
I had never seen this and Pip had only seen one before in 40 years!.
No real idea about the crack behind the plug.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 14, 2021, 10:17:44 PM
Post by: clive on June 14, 2021, 10:17:44 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Good news Clive
Should have it fired up soon then
Should be running also with the new diff installed by the end of the week, then back to Pips next week.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:20:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: clive on June 14, 2021, 10:17:44 PMGood progressQuote from: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Good news Clive
Should have it fired up soon then
Should be running also with the new diff installed by the end of the week, then back to Pips next week.
Well done
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 15, 2021, 09:51:55 PM
Post by: clive on June 15, 2021, 09:51:55 PM
Really lucky I still have a car as you will see, one of the two secondary fuel rail pedistalls had fratured, so lucky fuel didn't spray and catch alight
Thanks to Steve who has milled these monster pedastalls these will never break :great:
Here's a picture of the collapsed front exhaust port insert which would never had been found had there not been the rear housing becoming split around the spark plug hole leaking coolant on the dyno
Thanks to Steve who has milled these monster pedastalls these will never break :great:
Here's a picture of the collapsed front exhaust port insert which would never had been found had there not been the rear housing becoming split around the spark plug hole leaking coolant on the dyno
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2021, 10:08:41 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2021, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: clive on June 15, 2021, 09:51:55 PMOk
Really lucky I still have a car as you will see, one of the two secondary fuel rail pedistalls had fratured, so lucky fuel didn't spray and catch alight
Thanks to Steve who has milled these monster pedastalls these will never break :great:
Here's a picture of the collapsed front exhaust port insert which would never had been found had there not been the rear housing becoming split around the spark plug hole leaking coolant on the dyno
Excuse my ignorance
These are inside the exhaust ports ?
If so
How many more is steve doing for us ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 16, 2021, 04:36:28 AM
Post by: re japi on June 16, 2021, 04:36:28 AM
Quote from: clive on June 15, 2021, 09:51:55 PMWow. That would have been massive ouch
Really lucky I still have a car as you will see, one of the two secondary fuel rail pedistalls had fratured, so lucky fuel didn't spray and catch alight
Thanks to Steve who has milled these monster pedastalls these will never break :great:
Here's a picture of the collapsed front exhaust port insert which would never had been found had there not been the rear housing becoming split around the spark plug hole leaking coolant on the dyno
But how those inserts have collapsed? I think I have never seen that happened. Your exhaust temperatures?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
Post by: boosted on June 16, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
So these inserts are steel?.. to protect the ally housings..they willbexpand and contract at different rates to ally?
Am i right?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 16, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
Post by: clive on June 16, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
Yes Jon, but they are located by two mills pins so if the alloy expands at a different rate they stay in place.
i think the base of the port was cut to low allowing too much gas to get behind it
i think the base of the port was cut to low allowing too much gas to get behind it
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2021, 12:29:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2021, 12:29:56 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2021, 10:08:41 PMThe pieces Steve machined are brackets for the fuel rails, not a new exhaust port sleeveQuote from: clive on June 15, 2021, 09:51:55 PMOk
Really lucky I still have a car as you will see, one of the two secondary fuel rail pedistalls had fratured, so lucky fuel didn't spray and catch alight
Thanks to Steve who has milled these monster pedastalls these will never break :great:
Here's a picture of the collapsed front exhaust port insert which would never had been found had there not been the rear housing becoming split around the spark plug hole leaking coolant on the dyno
Excuse my ignorance
These are inside the exhaust ports ?
If so
How many more is steve doing for us ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
I do like the colour on the exhaust port, when I had my scooter we changed the jetting a few times and used the colouring on the spark plug to gauge the afr, a nice light chocolate brown seemed to be the best colour for it running and performing the best. This was a 50cc scooter that could do 80mph down hill and 70mph on the flat easily
Have you inspected the turbos turbine wheel for any damage from the dropped sleeve and also any bits in the Wastegate?
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Have you inspected the turbos turbine wheel for any damage from the dropped sleeve and also any bits in the Wastegate?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:35:03 PM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
Have you inspected the turbos turbine wheel for any damage from the dropped sleeve and also any bits in the Wastegate?
Amazingly all is OK :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:38:26 PM
Post by: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:38:26 PM
This amused me.
Track Attack got rid of one Racing Beat Rotary and another popped up and raced with them at Oulton Park last weekend :)) .
Track Attack got rid of one Racing Beat Rotary and another popped up and raced with them at Oulton Park last weekend :)) .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2021, 06:18:46 PM
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2021, 06:18:46 PM
It better not do to well...they will give it the chop.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2021, 07:34:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 21, 2021, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:38:26 PMThat's a bit of rubbing salt into the wounds if you ask me.....
This amused me.
Track Attack got rid of one Racing Beat Rotary and another popped up and raced with them at Oulton Park last weekend :)) .
...... lovely looking FB tho
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2021, 08:32:36 PM
Post by: boosted on June 21, 2021, 08:32:36 PM
Looked on tsl.. its a Guy called Mark Spence in 200bhp class. Must be NA.
Looks fantastic. Finished both races.
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Looks fantastic. Finished both races.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 23, 2021, 03:08:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 23, 2021, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: clive on June 21, 2021, 04:38:26 PMWait you got banned from racing with them?
This amused me.
Track Attack got rid of one Racing Beat Rotary and another popped up and raced with them at Oulton Park last weekend :)) .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 23, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
Post by: clive on June 23, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
Good day up at Pips
Engine only had about one hour of running on its new housings so compression is no where near one hundred percent yet. Pip left a bit of fuel in at the top end in case the compression gets better, burns a little better and gets a little leaner.
No issues at all on the Dyno but we lost lots of BHP from when it was running at its best, well maybe not lots ;), 3.8 BHP to be precise :)).
Engine only had about one hour of running on its new housings so compression is no where near one hundred percent yet. Pip left a bit of fuel in at the top end in case the compression gets better, burns a little better and gets a little leaner.
No issues at all on the Dyno but we lost lots of BHP from when it was running at its best, well maybe not lots ;), 3.8 BHP to be precise :)).
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 10:28:56 AM
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: clive on June 23, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
Good day up at Pips .....
No issues at all on the Dyno but we lost lots of BHP from when it was running at its best, well maybe not lots ;), 3.8 BHP to be precise :)).
:great: that's really great to hear Clive. Looking forward to your next race!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on June 24, 2021, 07:34:51 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on June 24, 2021, 07:34:51 PM
I saw a flash of yellow and blue heading south yesterday. Good work getting it done in such a amount of time.
:sign0098:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 24, 2021, 07:42:34 PM
Post by: clive on June 24, 2021, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on June 24, 2021, 07:34:51 PM
I saw a flash of yellow and blue heading south yesterday. Good work getting it done in such a amount of time.
:sign0098:
I'm hopeing other people only see a flash of yellow and blue next week :))
Jim I need to give you a call over the weekend :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 24, 2021, 08:10:49 PM
Post by: clive on June 24, 2021, 08:10:49 PM
OK, already started thinking about next years upgrades
I need to make the RX-8 rev counter without the ECU , just like an old pre ecu taco is this possible ?? anyone
I need to make the RX-8 rev counter without the ECU , just like an old pre ecu taco is this possible ?? anyone
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
Yes but its positive trigger as opposed to oldskool neg trigger.
A nice modern digidash would be great. Takes care of all gauges etc and no need to look at them as pre programmed low n high limits to bring on warning lights.
Fuel gauge is direct wired so that can worked out. Engine light on canbus onlything i think needs some thought.
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A nice modern digidash would be great. Takes care of all gauges etc and no need to look at them as pre programmed low n high limits to bring on warning lights.
Fuel gauge is direct wired so that can worked out. Engine light on canbus onlything i think needs some thought.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 25, 2021, 10:01:17 AM
Post by: clive on June 25, 2021, 10:01:17 AM
Thanks Jon
Going to try and keep the stock binnical as I am used to and like the RX-8 recounter plus it keeps your fuel gauge.
I did wonder if the trigger wheel saw a stand alone sensor that that could work ?
Going to try and keep the stock binnical as I am used to and like the RX-8 recounter plus it keeps your fuel gauge.
I did wonder if the trigger wheel saw a stand alone sensor that that could work ?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2021, 10:04:17 AM
Post by: boosted on June 25, 2021, 10:04:17 AM
Not so sure have to have think?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 30, 2021, 07:43:34 AM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2021, 07:43:34 AM
Here's all the details for the Castle Combe event this weekend the 3rd and 4th
https://www.barc.net/event/ctcrc-race-meeting-castle-combe/
Really rubbish after seeing the football last night that we cant have spectators in the pits and allegedly we cant even go into the spectator areas!
https://www.barc.net/event/ctcrc-race-meeting-castle-combe/
Really rubbish after seeing the football last night that we cant have spectators in the pits and allegedly we cant even go into the spectator areas!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2021, 09:50:05 AM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2021, 09:50:05 AM
Anybody coming were here..so the walkway between camp and start finish straight you could have a natter over fence. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210703/2d001981b7be4331b2588bcece4ea6db.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on July 03, 2021, 05:19:19 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on July 03, 2021, 05:19:19 PM
Thanks for the info. Hopefully see you tomorrow at some point. I see 8th in the race today so hope all went as expected.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 03, 2021, 09:42:58 PM
Post by: clive on July 03, 2021, 09:42:58 PM
OK bit of a mixed day, although a lowly 8th out of 27 starters, with the rebuilt engine needing the map tweaking, I at least found a second more than I had done before round Combe before with a 1 minute 15.1 If it rains tomorrow as promised "maybe" the car will perform a little better against the monsters on the grid, we shall see!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on July 04, 2021, 11:11:41 AM
Post by: DaveCollins on July 04, 2021, 11:11:41 AM
All the best for the race today. Unfortunately spectators only allowed between Camp and Quarry so will not be able to come and chat over the fence.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2021, 03:50:33 PM
Post by: boosted on July 04, 2021, 03:50:33 PM
Car pulled from race 2. Ill let Clive explain.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2021, 05:13:45 PM
Post by: Casey on July 04, 2021, 05:13:45 PM
:( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 07:01:18 PM
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 07:01:18 PM
Unfortunately I decided not to race today because whilst the car was going OK in race 1 , when we stopped in the entrance lane to exit the track the engine sounded a little odd just on slow tick-over, a compression test this morning showed low compression which was to be expected as it was running in, but I expected better readings .
Yes I could have raced but to be safe I decided to pull out and check the engine back home to make sure there's nothing proper wrong. :(
Yes I could have raced but to be safe I decided to pull out and check the engine back home to make sure there's nothing proper wrong. :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 07:50:11 PM
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 07:50:11 PM
Just booked a full test day at Brands the day before the next Thunder Saloon round on the 31st the 1st of August to make sure the engine gets some proper running in mileage on it.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on July 04, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 04, 2021, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: clive on July 04, 2021, 07:01:18 PMHope it's nothing too serious ...
Unfortunately I decided not to race today because whilst the car was going OK in race 1 , when we stopped in the entrance lane to exit the track the engine sounded a little odd just on slow tick-over, a compression test this morning showed low compression which was to be expected as it was running in, but I expected better readings .
Yes I could have raced but to be safe I decided to pull out and check the engine back home to make sure there's nothing proper wrong. :(
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 09:58:59 PM
Post by: clive on July 04, 2021, 09:58:59 PM
Thanks Matt
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on July 08, 2021, 08:59:02 AM
Post by: Prototype on July 08, 2021, 08:59:02 AM
Here is Castle Combe Race 1 (Saturday)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2021, 10:54:05 AM
Post by: boosted on July 08, 2021, 10:54:05 AM
Easy more time in there champ. Get that box downshifting properly will allow you to enter and exit corners smoothly but you know this anyway.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 09, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 09, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
Well
Done Clive
Currently catching up as the Tapatalk app has blocked me out of the forum
And RX8 one too
Good luck
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Done Clive
Currently catching up as the Tapatalk app has blocked me out of the forum
And RX8 one too
Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 10, 2021, 12:41:35 AM
Post by: Casey on July 10, 2021, 12:41:35 AM
A few hairy moments, otherwise a fairly "lonely" race ;)
Well done Clive, I hope the engine is OK.
Well done Clive, I hope the engine is OK.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 11, 2021, 06:23:33 PM
Post by: clive on July 11, 2021, 06:23:33 PM
Couple of decent pictures from last weekend below.
Really rubbish race fighting all the time with the gear box, no flow unable to concentrate on being smooth = junk lap speeds !
"Hopefully" after mailing Grebe who made the box and finding I have been running the wrong viscosity oil, so maybe now the thing will change down. Looking for a better showing at Brands and if the box is still not playing, I will pull it and get it stripped.
As I was a little worried about the engine with its new pair of housings costing £1500, so since the last post the engine has been out, stripped checked and sitting back in the bay, Thanks go to Steve for giving me a hand getting the engine lifted in and out plus Milling my manifold flange as we had a bad blow at Combe.
Looking forward to the next event at Brands that has now become a three day event with a full day test on the Friday, four half hour sessions should run it in properly.
Testing July 30th Racing July 31 / Aug1 Brands Hatch Indy
Really rubbish race fighting all the time with the gear box, no flow unable to concentrate on being smooth = junk lap speeds !
"Hopefully" after mailing Grebe who made the box and finding I have been running the wrong viscosity oil, so maybe now the thing will change down. Looking for a better showing at Brands and if the box is still not playing, I will pull it and get it stripped.
As I was a little worried about the engine with its new pair of housings costing £1500, so since the last post the engine has been out, stripped checked and sitting back in the bay, Thanks go to Steve for giving me a hand getting the engine lifted in and out plus Milling my manifold flange as we had a bad blow at Combe.
Looking forward to the next event at Brands that has now become a three day event with a full day test on the Friday, four half hour sessions should run it in properly.
Testing July 30th Racing July 31 / Aug1 Brands Hatch Indy
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 11, 2021, 06:25:13 PM
Post by: boosted on July 11, 2021, 06:25:13 PM
Yay
I reckon a few seconds to be had once that box silky smooth.
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I reckon a few seconds to be had once that box silky smooth.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 11, 2021, 06:31:25 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 11, 2021, 06:31:25 PM
Sounds promising! Go get them at Brands! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 11, 2021, 06:58:58 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 11, 2021, 06:58:58 PM
Good news on the engine
Best of luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 16, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
Post by: clive on July 16, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
Pleased to announce that Tein have sponsored the RX-8 with one of their excellent Mono Circuit Racing Coil over kits, which is a newly developed product.
After seeing the picture posted from Castle Combe with the front wheel nearly off the ground I decided I had to do something ! and Tein have come forward to help.
They had sponsored me in the past with their amazing EDFC system which allows me to change damper settings on the move, to adjust understeer and oversteer, it's also great for making the dampers softer if it rains. Been selling Tein products for the last 20 years with never an issue, so I am looking forward to setting this up for Brands in two weeks time.
After seeing the picture posted from Castle Combe with the front wheel nearly off the ground I decided I had to do something ! and Tein have come forward to help.
They had sponsored me in the past with their amazing EDFC system which allows me to change damper settings on the move, to adjust understeer and oversteer, it's also great for making the dampers softer if it rains. Been selling Tein products for the last 20 years with never an issue, so I am looking forward to setting this up for Brands in two weeks time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 28, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
Post by: clive on July 28, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
Armed with my new suspension, I'm out at Brands this weekend with Thunder Saloons
Testing all day Friday then racing Saturday and Sunday (Timetable Attached)
Testing all day Friday then racing Saturday and Sunday (Timetable Attached)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 28, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
Thanks! Will be following the progress. Have fun! :great:
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Post by: MattScott on July 28, 2021, 10:40:47 PM
Post by: MattScott on July 28, 2021, 10:40:47 PM
Hope your dog 'box plays nicely too !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 29, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
Post by: clive on July 29, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
Thanks guys.
If the box still wont play ball I will pull it out after this one!.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2021, 12:02:53 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2021, 12:02:53 PM
Hi Clive i cant make this 1 to much on at this end. Ill have fingers toes and arms crossed.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2021, 11:47:36 PM
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2021, 11:47:36 PM
Good luck Clive, I hope all goes well with the testing and races too :13:
Sadly, I won't be able to make it to Brands. I have to put the front end of my FB back together tomorrow in time for the Phil Blake event on Saturday. Decided to take care of some surface rust on the front end whilst I had the bumper off to sort out after a minor ding. All progressing well, but taking longer than I had planned :-[
Sadly, I won't be able to make it to Brands. I have to put the front end of my FB back together tomorrow in time for the Phil Blake event on Saturday. Decided to take care of some surface rust on the front end whilst I had the bumper off to sort out after a minor ding. All progressing well, but taking longer than I had planned :-[
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 30, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 30, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Have a good day testing
And race too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 30, 2021, 07:36:38 PM
Post by: clive on July 30, 2021, 07:36:38 PM
Had a good day testing, in wet dry conditions
Last run of the day spent 1/2 an hour on it and came away happy especially with my Michelin intermediates that operated on a soaking track and weren't bad when the track rapidly dried.
Checked the color of the plugs plus the compression and all is good
Saturday and Sunday in the CTCRC BOSS/Thunder series racing under new race number #787
Saturday:-
Qualifying 10.20
Race 4 15.05pm
Sunday:- Race 13 - 14.40pm
Last run of the day spent 1/2 an hour on it and came away happy especially with my Michelin intermediates that operated on a soaking track and weren't bad when the track rapidly dried.
Checked the color of the plugs plus the compression and all is good
Saturday and Sunday in the CTCRC BOSS/Thunder series racing under new race number #787
Saturday:-
Qualifying 10.20
Race 4 15.05pm
Sunday:- Race 13 - 14.40pm
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2021, 07:49:16 PM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2021, 07:49:16 PM
Excellent news.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Great stuff Clive, everything crossed.
Give them high priced race cars a run for their money !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 30, 2021, 08:05:24 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on July 30, 2021, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: clive on July 30, 2021, 07:36:38 PMNice Clive.
Had a good day testing, in wet dry conditions
Last run of the day spent 1/2 an hour on it and came away happy especially with my Michelin intermediates that operated on a soaking track and weren't bad when the track rapidly dried.
Checked the color of the plugs plus the compression and all is good
Saturday and Sunday in the CTCRC BOSS/Thunder series racing under new race number #787
Saturday:-
Qualifying 10.20
Race 4 15.05pm
Sunday:- Race 13 - 14.40pm
Are you not using the Extreme Tyres anymore?
Nice number!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 30, 2021, 08:10:50 PM
Post by: clive on July 30, 2021, 08:10:50 PM
No, got chucked out of the series that required MSA approved "road" tyres, now only using slick and wet race tyres
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2021, 11:17:24 AM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2021, 11:17:24 AM
Rubbish race☹️ Car all OK 👍 Just no grip so going home to get another set of tyres for race this afternoon!
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Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 11:26:16 AM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 11:26:16 AM
Cool. Good luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 03:12:33 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 03:12:33 PM
Tsl seems tobe stuck on racec2 results for me 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on July 31, 2021, 04:00:27 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2021, 04:00:27 PM
Lisa here - serious crash in Race 2, Marshalls also involved. Driver Ok airlifted to hospital.
Not sure if any races will continue today?
Not sure if any races will continue today?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 04:02:45 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 04:02:45 PM
Thanks Lisa. Pray guy ok.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2021, 07:23:09 PM
Post by: Casey on July 31, 2021, 07:23:09 PM
Very sad to hear of serious injury :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 31, 2021, 08:47:42 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on July 31, 2021, 08:47:42 PM
That looks very serious indeed. Hope everyone's going to be all right!
(I removed the YT video link from this post. The comments are better ignored)
(I removed the YT video link from this post. The comments are better ignored)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 09:41:25 PM
Post by: boosted on July 31, 2021, 09:41:25 PM
Just found out what happened.
Very bad crash and a marshall has lost his life. Very sad indeed.
These guys and girls give up there spare time for racers and track dayers to enjoy our sport. Unsung heroes of our sport. Rip.
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Very bad crash and a marshall has lost his life. Very sad indeed.
These guys and girls give up there spare time for racers and track dayers to enjoy our sport. Unsung heroes of our sport. Rip.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 01, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 01, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/31/brands-hatch-marshal-killed-after-race-car-spins-off-track (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/31/brands-hatch-marshal-killed-after-race-car-spins-off-track)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kevint on August 01, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
Post by: kevint on August 01, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
That's awful news, so sad that this can happen to a marshal volunteering their time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2021, 12:30:41 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2021, 12:30:41 PM
Spoke to Clive.
Racing has resumed today and race scheduled for 14.40. So log onto tsl at 14.30 as running ahead atmo.
Maybe a livesteam from the racingbeat youtube channel if Philip works his magic so log on there too.
Clive hoping for a 3 sec a lap improvement on some match staggered special tyres days of Thunder style.
Good luck Clive.
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Racing has resumed today and race scheduled for 14.40. So log onto tsl at 14.30 as running ahead atmo.
Maybe a livesteam from the racingbeat youtube channel if Philip works his magic so log on there too.
Clive hoping for a 3 sec a lap improvement on some match staggered special tyres days of Thunder style.
Good luck Clive.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2021, 01:07:41 PM
Post by: Prototype on August 01, 2021, 01:07:41 PM
Live stream from Brands Hatch today
https://youtu.be/3Ww9ohfqgbU
https://youtu.be/3Ww9ohfqgbU
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 01, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
Christ get the safety car in
Bloke in the tow truck dawdling like hes strolling to the pub !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 01, 2021, 05:43:10 PM
Post by: clive on August 01, 2021, 05:43:10 PM
Sad and rubbish weekend all round . With the death of the marshal and an injured driver nobody seemed to be very up for going racing. When we finally got to go "racing" that turned into a mess as well.
On the warm up laps my gear leaver ball snapped off leaving me just a stub to change gear, then we had cars playing lemmings throwing themselves off the track bringing out the safety car which we followed for lap after lap after lap.
The safety car made a total mess and left the whole field spread out over a lap, instead of slowing down or stopping to reform a grid, they then they decided to throw the green flag out and we were off for just four and a half minutes of racing.
On a plus side there was a kind Goodyear tech guy who was trying to help me (thankyou)
However I am still at a loss as to why I lost 4 seconds a lap over my previous visits with a car that should have been by now in the very low 51's and running up the sharp end !!.
Plus side is with the engine now run in I can get it back on the dyno and get a different diff ratio in the back again ! in the effort to get the car more competitive. Giving the next one a miss, so it will be Snetterton in a months' time.
On the warm up laps my gear leaver ball snapped off leaving me just a stub to change gear, then we had cars playing lemmings throwing themselves off the track bringing out the safety car which we followed for lap after lap after lap.
The safety car made a total mess and left the whole field spread out over a lap, instead of slowing down or stopping to reform a grid, they then they decided to throw the green flag out and we were off for just four and a half minutes of racing.
On a plus side there was a kind Goodyear tech guy who was trying to help me (thankyou)
However I am still at a loss as to why I lost 4 seconds a lap over my previous visits with a car that should have been by now in the very low 51's and running up the sharp end !!.
Plus side is with the engine now run in I can get it back on the dyno and get a different diff ratio in the back again ! in the effort to get the car more competitive. Giving the next one a miss, so it will be Snetterton in a months' time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 01, 2021, 05:48:12 PM
Post by: Casey on August 01, 2021, 05:48:12 PM
All in all, not a great weekend for you Clive, except for the fact your engine is now run-in. I watched the live feed with the procession of cars following the safety car for lap after lap, watching the clock run down, not very exciting!
Glad you and the car are OK though, after a very sobering and sad incident on Saturday :(
Glad you and the car are OK though, after a very sobering and sad incident on Saturday :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2021, 05:51:03 PM
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2021, 05:51:03 PM
Yep. I watched the livestream. Very frustrating for you.
Best to consider it some more running in.
Difficult to see where the 3 secs have been lost. Like i said on the phone my mate who uses the ex btcc slicks said they are so changeable and some are junk..maybe too many heat cycles?
Early birthday/ xmas self pressie and buy some new 1s?
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Best to consider it some more running in.
Difficult to see where the 3 secs have been lost. Like i said on the phone my mate who uses the ex btcc slicks said they are so changeable and some are junk..maybe too many heat cycles?
Early birthday/ xmas self pressie and buy some new 1s?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 01, 2021, 06:57:20 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 01, 2021, 06:57:20 PM
Echo what everyone else has said, race was a bit of a procession but after Saturday, being uneventful was possibly a good thing.
Glad you and the car survived (with only a minor repair to your gear lever).
On a plus side, you are very easy to spot on the track. Definately one of brighter colour schemes on the grid this weekend.!
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Glad you and the car survived (with only a minor repair to your gear lever).
On a plus side, you are very easy to spot on the track
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 01, 2021, 08:27:08 PM
Post by: clive on August 01, 2021, 08:27:08 PM
Thanks guys,
Already planning forward to get some speed back in the car/
Looks like £1200 worth of tyres will be on the list, dropping the next round will help towards them.
Already planning forward to get some speed back in the car/
Looks like £1200 worth of tyres will be on the list, dropping the next round will help towards them.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on August 03, 2021, 11:41:52 AM
Post by: Prototype on August 03, 2021, 11:41:52 AM
Sorry for the delay in posting guys and girls.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 01:19:32 PM
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 01:19:32 PM
Blimin hell.
HULK SMASH
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 03, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
Post by: clive on August 03, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
It was an end to a terrible weekend.
At first I thought the knob had just come off but then realised the gear leaver itself had broke,
Ripped the gator off, still couldn't get hold of what was left of the stick.
Next I tried to punch the centre console Steve made into a V shape. (below)
That didn't work so I ripped the whole middle out then I was just able to get hold of the leaver, not that it mattered with only a 4 1/2 minute so called race.
At first I thought the knob had just come off but then realised the gear leaver itself had broke,
Ripped the gator off, still couldn't get hold of what was left of the stick.
Next I tried to punch the centre console Steve made into a V shape. (below)
That didn't work so I ripped the whole middle out then I was just able to get hold of the leaver, not that it mattered with only a 4 1/2 minute so called race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 05:52:28 PM
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 05:52:28 PM
I felt your frustration in the vid. Did look to change down better mind? Whether thats the case though.
I remember the 51.xx lap you did at Brands but cant remember the tyres you were on. Plus new coilovers need time to settle in..
Itll come and back at pointy end.
Ive noticed in this series that alot of the competitors are having mixed results too. Dominate at 1 circuit and midpack others.
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I remember the 51.xx lap you did at Brands but cant remember the tyres you were on. Plus new coilovers need time to settle in..
Itll come and back at pointy end.
Ive noticed in this series that alot of the competitors are having mixed results too. Dominate at 1 circuit and midpack others.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 05:57:35 PM
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 05:57:35 PM
You cant win just yet...youll get banned Champ and have no one to race...
You sure your not sand bagging ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 03, 2021, 07:30:50 PM
Post by: clive on August 03, 2021, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 03, 2021, 05:52:28 PM
I felt your frustration in the vid. Did look to change down better mind? Whether thats the case though.
I remember the 51.xx lap you did at Brands but cant remember the tyres you were on. Plus new coilovers need time to settle in..
Itll come and back at pointy end.
Ive noticed in this series that alot of the competitors are having mixed results too. Dominate at 1 circuit and midpack others.
Yes I have done a 51 on slicks and a 52 on track day tyres which is why a 55 was so damn frustrating!.
Debriefed myself to find a way forward and now have a list to do before Snetterton.
Up to Pip's next week for the re-mapp, which was always planned.
Change the diff ratio to a 4.7 as this should make the box operate properly as the gears will become closer with the lower ratio in the rear end, also the car will accelerate faster and keep the car on boost.
Springs are way way too hard on this kit which led to the car understeering like mad, which in turn heated the tyres making them go off real fast and loose grip.
Fronts are 18 kilo, rears 14 kilo, on my old Tein kit I had 12 and 10. Going to go to 14 and 12kilo so that "should" sort that out.
Then lastly going to push the boat out and buy some new Goodyears, especially after the Goodyear tyre tech guy helped me with so much info over the weekend.
I will say it would be easy just to put the old box back in but not only would this be a backward step, it would also mean I cant put any more power into the car over the winter as the old box would just break with any more power put through it.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
They are mega stiff. Blimin hell.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2021, 09:21:22 PM
Post by: Casey on August 03, 2021, 09:21:22 PM
I, too, felt your frustration with the gear lever issue in the video. The saving grace was that it happened under yellow flags in a fairly meaningless race, given only 4 minutes of actual race time.
Good to see you have a plan to get things sorted for the next race :icon_thumleft:
Good to see you have a plan to get things sorted for the next race :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 05, 2021, 06:13:24 PM
Post by: clive on August 05, 2021, 06:13:24 PM
This picture popped up today shown at the end of Cooper straight.
I can see that at this point the front was aready washing out and I couldnt hold the entry line!
I can see that at this point the front was aready washing out and I couldnt hold the entry line!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 PM
Looks like you are still having fun Clive, even though things don't always go as planned.
Try get some dyno videos when you are at pips
Side note, do you know the vest place to source some
NGK R6725-115 spark plugs from? I tried ordering them from summit with some other pieces but they won't ship them over seas
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Try get some dyno videos when you are at pips
Side note, do you know the vest place to source some
NGK R6725-115 spark plugs from? I tried ordering them from summit with some other pieces but they won't ship them over seas
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 11, 2021, 05:50:15 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 11, 2021, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 PMHad mine from demon tweeks
Looks like you are still having fun Clive, even though things don't always go as planned.
Try get some dyno videos when you are at pips
Side note, do you know the vest place to source some
NGK R6725-115 spark plugs from? I tried ordering them from summit with some other pieces but they won't ship them over seas
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 11, 2021, 05:50:15 PMThey don't do the 115s, that's what I need for methanol useQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 PMHad mine from demon tweeks
Looks like you are still having fun Clive, even though things don't always go as planned.
Try get some dyno videos when you are at pips
Side note, do you know the vest place to source some
NGK R6725-115 spark plugs from? I tried ordering them from summit with some other pieces but they won't ship them over seas
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 11, 2021, 08:53:23 PM
Post by: clive on August 11, 2021, 08:53:23 PM
Grant I can get 11's but 11'5's arent avaliable here.
Try Dave Lemon @ Mazdatrix
Try Dave Lemon @ Mazdatrix
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 11, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
Post by: clive on August 11, 2021, 09:04:57 PM
Good day at Pips yesterday,
Didn't think it had much go in it. Turns out I lost 60 brake but now sorted.
Showing 464 at the hub, so using the 17% rule this means around 540 at the flywheel with 363 lbsft of torque at just 6200rpm :great:
Pulled the diff out today, just got to reset the diff plates in the Kazz as its too tight and inducing understeer.
Once reassembled it will have a 4.7 fitted, which will close the gears up and give it harder acceleration :)
Just booked a full test day at Brands fot the 27th so I can check I'm now going in the right direction with lap times
Didn't think it had much go in it. Turns out I lost 60 brake but now sorted.
Showing 464 at the hub, so using the 17% rule this means around 540 at the flywheel with 363 lbsft of torque at just 6200rpm :great:
Pulled the diff out today, just got to reset the diff plates in the Kazz as its too tight and inducing understeer.
Once reassembled it will have a 4.7 fitted, which will close the gears up and give it harder acceleration :)
Just booked a full test day at Brands fot the 27th so I can check I'm now going in the right direction with lap times
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 12, 2021, 12:08:16 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 12, 2021, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: clive on August 11, 2021, 09:04:57 PMGood news
Good day at Pips yesterday,
Didn't think it had much go in it. Turns out I lost 60 brake but now sorted.
Showing 464 at the hub, so using the 17% rule this means around 540 at the flywheel with 363 lbsft of torque at just 6200rpm :great:
Pulled the diff out today, just got to reset the diff plates in the Kazz as its too tight and inducing understeer.
Once reassembled it will have a 4.7 fitted, which will close the gears up and give it harder acceleration :)
Just booked a full test day at Brands fot the 27th so I can check I'm now going in the right direction with lap times
Happy man
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 12, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 12, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 11, 2021, 08:01:57 PMHa ha yepQuote from: Mr Spiller on August 11, 2021, 05:50:15 PMThey don't do the 115s, that's what I need for methanol useQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 PMHad mine from demon tweeks
Looks like you are still having fun Clive, even though things don't always go as planned.
Try get some dyno videos when you are at pips
Side note, do you know the vest place to source some
NGK R6725-115 spark plugs from? I tried ordering them from summit with some other pieces but they won't ship them over seas
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Missed that bit
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2021, 06:27:27 AM
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2021, 06:27:27 AM
363 torques... Its about 500nm... I actually thought that it has something around 550 range anyhoo, nice result, would love to see dyno sheet about those curves
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 15, 2021, 05:27:47 PM
Post by: clive on August 15, 2021, 05:27:47 PM
Wayne, here's a video from last time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpcTLjKCZs
Jarno, here's the dyno sheet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpcTLjKCZs
Jarno, here's the dyno sheet
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 16, 2021, 06:15:58 AM
Post by: re japi on August 16, 2021, 06:15:58 AM
Quote from: clive on August 15, 2021, 05:27:47 PMDamn. Nice
Wayne, here's a video from last time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpcTLjKCZs
Jarno, here's the dyno sheet
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 26, 2021, 08:40:17 AM
Post by: clive on August 26, 2021, 08:40:17 AM
Quick update.
Out testing at Brands tomorrow.
Since the last disastrous outing these things below have happened.
Re-map @Pips.
Rear wing made more adjustable and some downforce removed.
Kazz diff removed and pre-load made less as this was causing understeer. (now set the same as the previous Kazz)
4.4 diff Ratio removed and 4.7 ratio fitted.
New gear leaver fitted!
Lastly New Tyres :)
Tony Gilham, owner of Team Hard has helped me with tyres.
The soft option white wall BTCC tyres cost £1400 a set, Tony sorted me out a set that had done just one race last week at Knockhill for just £300 to help :great:
I have booked to have the car timed all day so hopefully if the changes have worked it will be interesting to see what the times will be.
Out testing at Brands tomorrow.
Since the last disastrous outing these things below have happened.
Re-map @Pips.
Rear wing made more adjustable and some downforce removed.
Kazz diff removed and pre-load made less as this was causing understeer. (now set the same as the previous Kazz)
4.4 diff Ratio removed and 4.7 ratio fitted.
New gear leaver fitted!
Lastly New Tyres :)
Tony Gilham, owner of Team Hard has helped me with tyres.
The soft option white wall BTCC tyres cost £1400 a set, Tony sorted me out a set that had done just one race last week at Knockhill for just £300 to help :great:
I have booked to have the car timed all day so hopefully if the changes have worked it will be interesting to see what the times will be.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2021, 12:12:41 PM
Post by: boosted on August 26, 2021, 12:12:41 PM
Excellent news been rather busy. Got the weather too. Good luck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 26, 2021, 01:27:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 26, 2021, 01:27:32 PM
Enjoy the testing
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 26, 2021, 06:41:35 PM
Post by: Casey on August 26, 2021, 06:41:35 PM
Hope it goes well tomorrow Clive :icon_thumleft:
I was hoping to pop down, but a have a backlog of things to get done here, as well as sorting out some plumbing and electrical issues at my son's flat in Brentwood!
I was hoping to pop down, but a have a backlog of things to get done here, as well as sorting out some plumbing and electrical issues at my son's flat in Brentwood!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 26, 2021, 08:22:20 PM
Post by: clive on August 26, 2021, 08:22:20 PM
Shame you can't because you would like tomorrow as there will be lots to see, plus Philip and Andrew are coming along.
Parked next to the huge Sky Sports media centre as the GT WORLD CHALLENGE EUROPE cars are there this week.
As I left all the FI style transporters were waiting to get in, including works Mercedes and Ferrari transporters.
(must find time for a wander around the main pits to be nosey)
As you will see on the time table, they have fully recognised the RX-8 as not just some slow little Mazda as they have done at times previously.
Parked next to the huge Sky Sports media centre as the GT WORLD CHALLENGE EUROPE cars are there this week.
As I left all the FI style transporters were waiting to get in, including works Mercedes and Ferrari transporters.
(must find time for a wander around the main pits to be nosey)
As you will see on the time table, they have fully recognised the RX-8 as not just some slow little Mazda as they have done at times previously.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 27, 2021, 09:14:31 PM
Post by: clive on August 27, 2021, 09:14:31 PM
Very very mixed day today!
Good points.
Met and spent time with Pierre Dieudonné, the 1981 24 Hours of Spa winner who asked me to bring the car to the Audi garages in the pit lane so he could have a look at the RX-8 . He was there as Team Manager for the works Audi's for the weekend.
Next the car was brilliant and all the changes worked, ran 69 faultless laps.
Did the first session on the hard compound Goodyears then changed to the BTCC softs and found a huge 2.2 seconds, got down to a 52.2 with sector times showing I was just one tenth away from my ultimate lap on the day. Meaning I consistently got just about everything out of the car I could.
Bad points.
Came across a Porsche at the end of Cooper straight that was much slower than me with a novice X fitted, blue lights were flashing, but even up around clearways he was still wallying around not staying on line.
Coming onto the straight off the bend he ran the car wide, but looked in my mirror and saw a britcar Cupra that was forcing his way up the inside. I was faced with moving over a little or maybe getting spun into the barrier! Unfortunately by moving so we could get three cars off the bend I moved across slightly and slapped the Porsche side on. Fortunately he continued after a trip through the gravel with just a small dent in his sill !! My car did not fair so well but at last we all went home with cars. Had I not moved into the Porsche potentially at least two of us could have been in the barriers.
For those who don't know who Pierre Dieudonné is, see below.
https://www.insidemazda.co.uk/2018/06/12/the-race-that-changed-my-life-pierre-dieudonne-the-1981-24-hours-of-spa/
Good points.
Met and spent time with Pierre Dieudonné, the 1981 24 Hours of Spa winner who asked me to bring the car to the Audi garages in the pit lane so he could have a look at the RX-8 . He was there as Team Manager for the works Audi's for the weekend.
Next the car was brilliant and all the changes worked, ran 69 faultless laps.
Did the first session on the hard compound Goodyears then changed to the BTCC softs and found a huge 2.2 seconds, got down to a 52.2 with sector times showing I was just one tenth away from my ultimate lap on the day. Meaning I consistently got just about everything out of the car I could.
Bad points.
Came across a Porsche at the end of Cooper straight that was much slower than me with a novice X fitted, blue lights were flashing, but even up around clearways he was still wallying around not staying on line.
Coming onto the straight off the bend he ran the car wide, but looked in my mirror and saw a britcar Cupra that was forcing his way up the inside. I was faced with moving over a little or maybe getting spun into the barrier! Unfortunately by moving so we could get three cars off the bend I moved across slightly and slapped the Porsche side on. Fortunately he continued after a trip through the gravel with just a small dent in his sill !! My car did not fair so well but at last we all went home with cars. Had I not moved into the Porsche potentially at least two of us could have been in the barriers.
For those who don't know who Pierre Dieudonné is, see below.
https://www.insidemazda.co.uk/2018/06/12/the-race-that-changed-my-life-pierre-dieudonne-the-1981-24-hours-of-spa/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2021, 09:52:23 PM
Post by: boosted on August 27, 2021, 09:52:23 PM
Christened 1 of the new doors! but more good than bad. Welldone.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2021, 10:33:21 PM
Post by: Casey on August 27, 2021, 10:33:21 PM
Awesome bonus to meet Pierre at Brands :icon_biggrin:
Great to hear the car went well - 52.2 sec lap is brilliant!
Shame about the little bump incident, else it sounds like it could have been a perfect day.
Great to hear the car went well - 52.2 sec lap is brilliant!
Shame about the little bump incident, else it sounds like it could have been a perfect day.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2021, 08:50:34 AM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2021, 08:50:34 AM
Good job sir.
I really do hope that I could get there soon to see you race
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2021, 08:52:55 AM
Wow, you met a legend and he asked to show your car. That a big complement
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 28, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 28, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
Rendezvous avec Monsieur Dieudonne? Starstruck just from reading the post! :notworthy:
On the other hand "rendezvous" with Porsche not ideal, but sounds like that incident is more than outweighed by the Good News!
Well done! :sign0098:
On the other hand "rendezvous" with Porsche not ideal, but sounds like that incident is more than outweighed by the Good News!
Well done! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 28, 2021, 05:33:42 PM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2021, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on August 28, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
Rendezvous avec Monsieur Dieudonne? Starstruck just from reading the post! :notworthy:
On the other hand "rendezvous" with Porsche not ideal, but sounds like that incident is more than outweighed by the Good News!
Well done! :sign0098:
Yes your correct :great: Sad that I hit the Porsche, but had I not moved I could have ended up in the barrier with no car to bring home !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2021, 06:43:16 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2021, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: clive on August 27, 2021, 09:14:31 PMYou certainly were Glad the cars ok and you got some better pace from the soft tyres
Very very mixed day today!
Good points.
Met and spent time with Pierre Dieudonné, the 1981 24 Hours of Spa winner who asked me to bring the car to the Audi garages in the pit lane so he could have a look at the RX-8 . He was there as Team Manager for the works Audi's for the weekend.
Next the car was brilliant and all the changes worked, ran 69 faultless laps.
Did the first session on the hard compound Goodyears then changed to the BTCC softs and found a huge 2.2 seconds, got down to a 52.2 with sector times showing I was just one tenth away from my ultimate lap on the day. Meaning I consistently got just about everything out of the car I could.
Bad points.
Came across a Porsche at the end of Cooper straight that was much slower than me with a novice X fitted, blue lights were flashing, but even up around clearways he was still wallying around not staying on line.
Coming onto the straight off the bend he ran the car wide, but looked in my mirror and saw a britcar Cupra that was forcing his way up the inside. I was faced with moving over a little or maybe getting spun into the barrier! Unfortunately by moving so we could get three cars off the bend I moved across slightly and slapped the Porsche side on. Fortunately he continued after a trip through the gravel with just a small dent in his sill !! My car did not fair so well but at last we all went home with cars. Had I not moved into the Porsche potentially at least two of us could have been in the barriers.
For those who don't know who Pierre Dieudonné is, see below.
https://www.insidemazda.co.uk/2018/06/12/the-race-that-changed-my-life-pierre-dieudonne-the-1981-24-hours-of-spa/
How many Laps did you get out of them and how did they feel
Or was it staggered 20 min sessions you ran ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 28, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
Ran Goodyear non BTCC Tyres in the first 1/2 hour session then the softs in the next two.
I could feel the difference just on the first out lap! plus just as Tony Gilham said they didn't go off, so they will be great in the 15 minute sessions I have in Thunder Saloons. Now I have some grip I definitely need more power for next season.
I could feel the difference just on the first out lap! plus just as Tony Gilham said they didn't go off, so they will be great in the 15 minute sessions I have in Thunder Saloons. Now I have some grip I definitely need more power for next season.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2021, 09:07:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2021, 09:07:35 PM
Quote from: clive on August 28, 2021, 07:00:37 PMThat's brilliant
Ran Goodyear non BTCC Tyres in the first 1/2 hour session then the softs in the next two.
I could feel the difference just on the first out lap! plus just as Tony Gilham said they didn't go off, so they will be great in the 15 minute sessions I have in Thunder Saloons. Now I have some grip I definitely need more power for next season.
Which ones did you run for first half hour stint
I normally stick with Hard's as track days are totally different to the racing you do
Oh yeah
And I'm about 300 Hp less
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 29, 2021, 09:13:38 AM
Post by: clive on August 29, 2021, 09:13:38 AM
Ran (Hard) Goodyear non BTCC Tyres in the first 1/2 hour session then the softs in the next two.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 29, 2021, 10:30:04 AM
Post by: clive on August 29, 2021, 10:30:04 AM
Just looked back through my race data and found the fastest lap was 7 tenths quicker than my fastest ever on slicks, which is a lump of time around Brands
Looks like the changes are finally taking effect and we are starting to go in the right direction.
Looks like the changes are finally taking effect and we are starting to go in the right direction.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 29, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: clive on August 29, 2021, 10:30:04 AMThat's a lot of progress Clive
Just looked back through my race data and found the fastest lap was 7 tenths quicker than my fastest ever on slicks, which is a lump of time around Brands
Looks like the changes are finally taking effect and we are starting to go in the right direction.
Looks like it's all coming together nicely
Impressed between the gap of soft to hard compound
Especially the softs holding up to full race lengths .
Go get em
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: jinx on August 29, 2021, 04:42:34 PM
Post by: jinx on August 29, 2021, 04:42:34 PM
To be clear:
In my absence (due unbelievably to pressure of work) you:
1. Went faster
2. Survived an incident
3. Made friends with a hero
OK, I'll stay away in future.
Glad it came home in one piece if not quite the same shape. Break out the Valspar!
In my absence (due unbelievably to pressure of work) you:
1. Went faster
2. Survived an incident
3. Made friends with a hero
OK, I'll stay away in future.
Glad it came home in one piece if not quite the same shape. Break out the Valspar!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 30, 2021, 07:35:36 AM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2021, 07:35:36 AM
Many thanks Andrew, you were missed.
Ironically, I previously had B+Q mix some Valspar in yellow and blue so I touch up little bits :))
Ironically, I previously had B+Q mix some Valspar in yellow and blue so I touch up little bits :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2021, 12:03:47 PM
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2021, 12:03:47 PM
My mate was at Thruxton yesterday... i did ask him to see if he could borrow these but alas no.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210830/470f33497d52de34bbe9ce73fd9feeb5.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Sorry for the delay posting this incident. Due to being on holiday it's taken a bit longer than normal.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 10:31:45 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 10:31:45 PM
Here is a bit of external footage and Pit Straight Drive-Bys. It's only shot on my phone so sorry about the quality.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 10:53:23 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 03, 2021, 10:53:23 PM
Here is Pierre Dieudonné with Clive. I met Pierre at Goodwood in 2015 and chatted with him for around 5 Minutes about his drive in 1991 at Lemans in the 787 sister car. He is such a nice friendly man and willing to talk in detail.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
Post by: Casey on September 05, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
What was the driver of that Porsche doing/thinking? He should have seen you and the other car in his mirrors, seen you were both much quicker and stayed way to the left. Instead, he wanders back to the right on entering Brabham Straight, squeezing you into an impossible situation. Very sad to see this damage on a test day, not even racing!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 05, 2021, 01:46:33 PM
Post by: clive on September 05, 2021, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: Casey on September 05, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
What was the driver of that Porsche doing/thinking? He should have seen you and the other car in his mirrors, seen you were both much quicker and stayed way to the left. Instead, he wanders back to the right on entering Brabham Straight, squeezing you into an impossible situation. Very sad to see this damage on a test day, not even racing!!
I was just a bit agitated with the Porsche, but really upset with the Cupra and complained, but that fell on deaf ears!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 06, 2021, 08:52:40 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 06, 2021, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Casey on September 05, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
What was the driver of that Porsche doing/thinking? He should have seen you and the other car in his mirrors, seen you were both much quicker and stayed way to the left. Instead, he wanders back to the right on entering Brabham Straight, squeezing you into an impossible situation. Very sad to see this damage on a test day, not even racing!!
Hello Malcolm, I've posted it again without zooming so that you can see it. It does appear he moves right but it could also be the angle of the camera and the closing speed of Clive's car.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2021, 09:23:51 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2021, 09:23:51 PM
Off to Snetterton this weekend
Should be a good event to watch if anyone wants to come along as Trucks, Pickup trucks and Legends are on the bill with our Thunder Saloons.
After a good test and being over the moon with the soft BTCC tyres, I have pushed the boat out and bought a couple of new ones to go with the hardly used ones I have. I will be interesting to see how times compare from last year,
Snetterton 18/19th Sept
YouTube
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1NMEjk5RA...
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfxkrb_Apo...
Or On
Facebook
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/259335982714983/
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/381458873554179/
Should be a good event to watch if anyone wants to come along as Trucks, Pickup trucks and Legends are on the bill with our Thunder Saloons.
After a good test and being over the moon with the soft BTCC tyres, I have pushed the boat out and bought a couple of new ones to go with the hardly used ones I have. I will be interesting to see how times compare from last year,
Snetterton 18/19th Sept
YouTube
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1NMEjk5RA...
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfxkrb_Apo...
Or On
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/259335982714983/
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/381458873554179/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2021, 09:25:15 PM
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2021, 09:25:15 PM
Goodluck ive been meaning to ring you for a catch up...got hectic this end.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 16, 2021, 09:27:15 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on September 16, 2021, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: clive on September 16, 2021, 09:23:51 PMGood luck!
Off to Snetterton this weekend
Should be a good event to watch if anyone wants to come along as Trucks, Pickup trucks and Legends are on the bill with our Thunder Saloons.
After a good test and being over the moon with the soft BTCC tyres, I have pushed the boat out and bought a couple of new ones to go with the hardly used ones I have. I will be interesting to see how times compare from last year,
Snetterton 18/19th Sept
YouTube
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF1NMEjk5RA...
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfxkrb_Apo...
Or On
Saturday Show [Starting from 12:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/259335982714983/
Sunday Show [Starting from 09:40] - https://www.facebook.com/events/381458873554179/
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 16, 2021, 09:27:46 PM
Post by: clive on September 16, 2021, 09:27:46 PM
Here are the times I am on track, https://www.tsl-timing.com/
SATURDAY 18 SEPTEMBER 2021
11:50 - 12:05 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Qualifying 15 mins
17:55 - 18:10 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Race 11/ 15 mins
SUNDAY 19 SEPTEMBER 2021
13:35 - 13:50 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Race 18 15 mins
SATURDAY 18 SEPTEMBER 2021
11:50 - 12:05 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Qualifying 15 mins
17:55 - 18:10 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Race 11/ 15 mins
SUNDAY 19 SEPTEMBER 2021
13:35 - 13:50 CTCRC - BOSS / Thunder Race 18 15 mins
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2021, 05:13:48 AM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2021, 05:13:48 AM
Ill be listening in at work... good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 07:39:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 18, 2021, 07:39:13 AM
Fingers crossed captain
Give them hell
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 18, 2021, 09:31:23 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 18, 2021, 09:31:23 AM
Best of luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
Post by: Casey on September 18, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
Qually didn't go well it would seem :(
Clive spent most of the time in the pitlane and got out just before the end of the session but wasn't able to set a time before the session was closed.
Starting from the back of the grid then - nothing new :)
A repeat of the memorable Donington race, starting from the pit lane, then up to 2nd place until the very last corner ..................
Good luck in the race Clive - I should be back just in time from the footie to listen in :icon_thumleft:
Clive spent most of the time in the pitlane and got out just before the end of the session but wasn't able to set a time before the session was closed.
Starting from the back of the grid then - nothing new :)
A repeat of the memorable Donington race, starting from the pit lane, then up to 2nd place until the very last corner ..................
Good luck in the race Clive - I should be back just in time from the footie to listen in :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2021, 04:15:31 PM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2021, 04:15:31 PM
Missed quali as led under a stinky machine at work...come on Clive a charge from the back to front is what the DR ordered
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 18, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
Post by: clive on September 18, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
Well what a rubbish day and season so far.
Started last due to the car going into limp mode and not getting a full lap in !
Started by overtaking a few on the first lap but then the safety car came out with a full course yellow (no overtaking) however a car decided it was a good opportunity to overtake me again!!.
Come the restart the gear leaver that came with the gearbox decided to snap off just above where its bolted on, leaving me to limp back in one gear.
To cap it all the clerk of the course summoned me for an interview for my version of the safety car episode, now for whatever reason he wants all the drivers surrouding the car in question in his office at 9am for a full investigation. Hopefully after that I will succeed in filing and drilling what's left of my gear leaver to get some sort of a race in.
Started last due to the car going into limp mode and not getting a full lap in !
Started by overtaking a few on the first lap but then the safety car came out with a full course yellow (no overtaking) however a car decided it was a good opportunity to overtake me again!!.
Come the restart the gear leaver that came with the gearbox decided to snap off just above where its bolted on, leaving me to limp back in one gear.
To cap it all the clerk of the course summoned me for an interview for my version of the safety car episode, now for whatever reason he wants all the drivers surrouding the car in question in his office at 9am for a full investigation. Hopefully after that I will succeed in filing and drilling what's left of my gear leaver to get some sort of a race in.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 05:21:01 AM
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 05:21:01 AM
Keep your cool Champion. It will come back to you.
Do we know what the limp was for? The obd plug is in the car and a scan tool read would be prudent.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 04:59:00 PM
I think that was very respectable 24 to 12 well done!
The pace of the front running cars is pretty impressive too.
Im sure you already have some plans.
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well done! The pace of the front running cars is pretty impressive too.
Im sure you already have some plans.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 19, 2021, 05:54:52 PM
Post by: clive on September 19, 2021, 05:54:52 PM
Thanks Jon.
Enjoyed this race "finally" shame the rear camera wasn't running as I had some good hard dices.
After the weekend I had with the car I didnt even try and dial the car in better, but still disapointed that the car was no faster than last year!
Still struggling with the gear box so I will see if its possable to get it out and in before Mallory.
Enjoyed this race "finally" shame the rear camera wasn't running as I had some good hard dices.
After the weekend I had with the car I didnt even try and dial the car in better, but still disapointed that the car was no faster than last year!
Still struggling with the gear box so I will see if its possable to get it out and in before Mallory.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 06:04:57 PM
Post by: boosted on September 19, 2021, 06:04:57 PM
Itll all come good.. battling and racing is a slower lap time as you know. Looking forward to 2nd race vid all the ovetakes.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 19, 2021, 08:01:48 PM
Post by: clive on September 19, 2021, 08:01:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 19, 2021, 04:59:00 PM
I think that was very respectable 24 to 12
The pace of the front running cars is pretty impressive too.
Im sure you already have some plans.
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Thanks Jon - actually finished 11th place :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 20, 2021, 12:08:42 AM
Post by: Casey on September 20, 2021, 12:08:42 AM
In the circumstances, starting from the back in a 15 minute race in that company, that is a very respectable finish position Clive - well done :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on September 20, 2021, 06:54:34 AM
Post by: re japi on September 20, 2021, 06:54:34 AM
Oh bugger
But yes, good result with everything that happened
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 07:48:58 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 20, 2021, 07:48:58 AM
Congrats, Clive! Well done! Looks like all your hard work is starting to pay off. :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 20, 2021, 08:29:27 AM
Post by: clive on September 20, 2021, 08:29:27 AM
Thank you for the comments.
With no qualifying or track time, I had no chance to set the car up or try different things to get some speed.
Just happy that after a rubbish saturday I got a race on sunday with no issues.
Still not happy with the gearbox so its going to come out for a rebuild
With no qualifying or track time, I had no chance to set the car up or try different things to get some speed.
Just happy that after a rubbish saturday I got a race on sunday with no issues.
Still not happy with the gearbox so its going to come out for a rebuild
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2021, 12:21:58 AM
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2021, 12:21:58 AM
Here is Sundays Race
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 23, 2021, 03:04:13 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 23, 2021, 03:04:13 PM
Great race from the back of the grid and a really exciting finish - and despite the gearbox. Well done! :icon_thumright:
Btw wonder what's under the bonnet of that yellow/white Anglia. Held its ground amazingly well, unlike those rather pedestrian Escort mk1s.
Btw wonder what's under the bonnet of that yellow/white Anglia. Held its ground amazingly well, unlike those rather pedestrian Escort mk1s.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2021, 05:06:53 PM
Post by: Prototype on September 23, 2021, 05:06:53 PM
Here is the end of the race from the live feed.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2021, 08:02:49 PM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2021, 08:02:49 PM
Thanks for persevering to get this footage :great:
Wow, You can see the initial torque grunt from the 3litre beemer, then Rotary Power Kicks In >:D
Wow, You can see the initial torque grunt from the 3litre beemer, then Rotary Power Kicks In >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2021, 08:06:48 PM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2021, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on September 23, 2021, 03:04:13 PM
Great race from the back of the grid and a really exciting finish - and despite the gearbox. Well done! :icon_thumright:
Btw wonder what's under the bonnet of that yellow/white Anglia. Held its ground amazingly well, unlike those rather pedestrian Escort mk1s.
No idea whats under the bonnet, the thing is you can have any engine, you can't see on the video, but he stayed with me down the straight till we got onto the brakes. One Escort even has a TVR engine under the hood!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2021, 08:21:07 PM
Post by: boosted on September 23, 2021, 08:21:07 PM
Been meaning to ring you for a catch up.. hectic lol.
Do we know what the limp was ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 24, 2021, 02:14:31 PM
Post by: Casey on September 24, 2021, 02:14:31 PM
Thanks Philip for taking the time to post up the videos :icon_thumleft:
Great to watch Clive battling through the field - a great tussle with the Anglia!
What a great finish too :13:
Great to watch Clive battling through the field - a great tussle with the Anglia!
What a great finish too :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2021, 04:10:56 PM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2021, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 23, 2021, 08:21:07 PM
Do we know what the limp was ?
Dont know Jon,it was OK after that
Trouble is every time you kill the main switch it clears out the codes,
New type of ECU next year so it won't do it agin then.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 24, 2021, 04:53:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 24, 2021, 04:53:46 PM
What ecu are you going for Clive?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2021, 07:06:04 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2021, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: clive on September 20, 2021, 08:29:27 AMWill you see the season out or refer back to the old set up ?
Thank you for the comments.
With no qualifying or track time, I had no chance to set the car up or try different things to get some speed.
Just happy that after a rubbish saturday I got a race on sunday with no issues.
Still not happy with the gearbox so its going to come out for a rebuild
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 25, 2021, 07:56:39 PM
Post by: clive on September 25, 2021, 07:56:39 PM
Not sure which one yet Grant, could be a Life unit, Motec or an other.
Wayne, changing back for Mallory as I know I wont get the car in gear for the hairpin, then hopefully if the dog box is rebuilt it will be back in for Brands 6th & 7th November
Wayne, changing back for Mallory as I know I wont get the car in gear for the hairpin, then hopefully if the dog box is rebuilt it will be back in for Brands 6th & 7th November
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Mallory Park tomorrow
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 12:22:59 PM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 12:22:59 PM
Out again racing tomorrow in the BOSS/Thunder series at Mallory Park Circuit Live streaming details on the link below.
Qualifying at 9.30
1st race 11.35
2nd race 14.50
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-mallory-park-3/
REgards
Qualifying at 9.30
1st race 11.35
2nd race 14.50
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-mallory-park-3/
REgards
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 16, 2021, 01:39:13 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 16, 2021, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: clive on October 16, 2021, 12:22:59 PMBest of luck. Clive
Out again racing tomorrow in the BOSS/Thunder series at Mallory Park Circuit Live streaming details on the link below.
Qualifying at 9.30
1st race 11.35
2nd race 14.50
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-mallory-park-3/
REgards
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
Post by: boosted on October 16, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
Yep good luck.. hopefully i can listen in..working weekend for me.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 08:31:46 PM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 08:31:46 PM
Thanks for the wishes, with 30 Thunder Saloons on the grid on a tight track, its going to be busy ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 08:32:43 PM
Post by: clive on October 16, 2021, 08:32:43 PM
All ready to go for tomorrow, New canards fitted to get some front end grip back, plus reverted to my old gear box just for this race, Second picture is so people coming along can find the car
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on October 16, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Post by: MattScott on October 16, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: clive on October 16, 2021, 08:32:43 PMPeak-a-boo!
All ready to go for tomorrow, New canards fitted to get some front end grip back, plus reverted to my old gear box just for this race, Second picture is so people coming along can find the car
She's looking good Clive ! Good luck in the race and hope the old 'box brings you some racing fun
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2021, 11:05:21 AM
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2021, 11:05:21 AM
Do we know what happened in Qualify?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 17, 2021, 08:17:48 PM
Post by: clive on October 17, 2021, 08:17:48 PM
First of all thank you for all who came along to support me.
Really disappointed the way the car let me down, as I lapped earlier in the year at Mallory on a damp track in 51seconds on track day tyres in the damp, so on proper race tyres I was hoping for a good result rain or shine.
Unfortunately the car sprung an oil leak from the off which meant I limped around with a slipping clutch contaminated with the oil in qualifying and the race resulting in finishing 16th out of 22 finishers !
Next and last race is at Brands in three weeks time and by then with oil leak sorted and my freshly rebuilt dog box back in the car hopefully I can come away with a better result.
Gear box went back to Grebe who made the gearbox and they found the cause of my gear change issues. When I bought the gear box it had been freshly rebuilt by a Ford gear box "specialist" in Essex. Turns out this wonderful "specialist" left a rouge nut inside which trapped the selectors.
Now I know why it was so hard to get into gear and I snapped two gear leavers!! Grebe who are now repairing and upgrading the box are staggered it went into any gear at all.
Really disappointed the way the car let me down, as I lapped earlier in the year at Mallory on a damp track in 51seconds on track day tyres in the damp, so on proper race tyres I was hoping for a good result rain or shine.
Unfortunately the car sprung an oil leak from the off which meant I limped around with a slipping clutch contaminated with the oil in qualifying and the race resulting in finishing 16th out of 22 finishers !
Next and last race is at Brands in three weeks time and by then with oil leak sorted and my freshly rebuilt dog box back in the car hopefully I can come away with a better result.
Gear box went back to Grebe who made the gearbox and they found the cause of my gear change issues. When I bought the gear box it had been freshly rebuilt by a Ford gear box "specialist" in Essex. Turns out this wonderful "specialist" left a rouge nut inside which trapped the selectors.
Now I know why it was so hard to get into gear and I snapped two gear leavers!! Grebe who are now repairing and upgrading the box are staggered it went into any gear at all.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on October 18, 2021, 08:20:25 AM
Post by: boosted on October 18, 2021, 08:20:25 AM
I tried to follow on Tsl but difficult.
Been a torrid year for you but onwards and upwards the success when it comes will taste fantastic Champ
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 18, 2021, 10:23:31 AM
Post by: Casey on October 18, 2021, 10:23:31 AM
I followed the qualifying session on TSL, then the first race live streamed. I realised something was seriously amiss when I saw your laptimes :(
I hoped you'd be able to fix whatever it was for the 2nd race but then saw you were not able to make it to the grid :(
The grid formation for the first race was a complete farce! What were the marshals doing??
I hope you can get everything fixed in time for Brands to end the year with a good finish :icon_thumleft:
I hoped you'd be able to fix whatever it was for the 2nd race but then saw you were not able to make it to the grid :(
The grid formation for the first race was a complete farce! What were the marshals doing??
I hope you can get everything fixed in time for Brands to end the year with a good finish :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 21, 2021, 11:12:52 AM
Post by: clive on October 21, 2021, 11:12:52 AM
It was a bit wet last weekend!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 21, 2021, 11:16:42 AM
Post by: clive on October 21, 2021, 11:16:42 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 28, 2021, 09:09:22 AM
Post by: clive on October 28, 2021, 09:09:22 AM
Getting ready for the last race of the season at Brands Hatch next week
Glebe Engineering https://glebe.co.uk/ have fully rebuilt and updated the T5 Dog box they would have manufactured themselves many years ago. With all help gratefully received they have decided to sponsor me as well. The owner Nick Cresswell is a long term current racer himself and will hopefully be out himself in Thunder Saloons next year with a spaceframe Escort.
With Glebe Engineering having done work for Mercedes F1, I am super confident the gear box will now be reliable and change gear correctly, finally. With what they found, they do not now how it ever changed gear at all !!
Couple of pictures have popped up, one shows how wet it was at Mallory and the second shows the nose with more canards, but for Brands we will have more
SATURDAY 6 NOVEMBER
09:45 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Qualifying / 15 mins
13:20 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Race 4 / 15 mins
SUNDAY 7 NOVEMBER
11:18 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Race 11/ 15 mins
Glebe Engineering https://glebe.co.uk/ have fully rebuilt and updated the T5 Dog box they would have manufactured themselves many years ago. With all help gratefully received they have decided to sponsor me as well. The owner Nick Cresswell is a long term current racer himself and will hopefully be out himself in Thunder Saloons next year with a spaceframe Escort.
With Glebe Engineering having done work for Mercedes F1, I am super confident the gear box will now be reliable and change gear correctly, finally. With what they found, they do not now how it ever changed gear at all !!
Couple of pictures have popped up, one shows how wet it was at Mallory and the second shows the nose with more canards, but for Brands we will have more
SATURDAY 6 NOVEMBER
09:45 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Qualifying / 15 mins
13:20 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Race 4 / 15 mins
SUNDAY 7 NOVEMBER
11:18 CTCRC - Allcomers - Racing for Marshals Race 11/ 15 mins
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 07:56:44 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 07:56:44 PM
All set for tomorrow, car and gear box all OK,
Did 34 Laps including a high speed spin coming off the end of Cooper straight during the afternoon only session on a very cold track with not much heat in the tyres,
BEST LAP TIME : 53.174 Achieved on Lap 34!
Adding up the three sector times, ultimate could have been just 3 tenths quicker which means I got pretty much as much as I could out of it on the day.
Not quite sure how tomorrows Handicap race works as the faster cars will start further back on the grid and its not necessarily the fastest car that will win ??? We shall see !
Did 34 Laps including a high speed spin coming off the end of Cooper straight during the afternoon only session on a very cold track with not much heat in the tyres,
BEST LAP TIME : 53.174 Achieved on Lap 34!
Adding up the three sector times, ultimate could have been just 3 tenths quicker which means I got pretty much as much as I could out of it on the day.
Not quite sure how tomorrows Handicap race works as the faster cars will start further back on the grid and its not necessarily the fastest car that will win ??? We shall see !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
Post by: boosted on November 05, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
Brilliant... sandbagging in qualify then Champ.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on November 05, 2021, 08:22:59 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on November 05, 2021, 08:22:59 PM
Good luck Clive!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 05, 2021, 08:38:40 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 05, 2021, 08:38:40 PM
Go get them! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 10:32:57 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 10:32:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apP3wNgJJZI
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 10:34:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 05, 2021, 10:34:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ORasCbYqQ
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: LINAS on November 05, 2021, 10:36:23 PM
Post by: LINAS on November 05, 2021, 10:36:23 PM
Quote from: clive on November 05, 2021, 07:56:44 PMSee you there Dear Chap...
All set for tomorrow, car and gear box all OK,
Did 34 Laps including a high speed spin coming off the end of Cooper straight during the afternoon only session on a very cold track with not much heat in the tyres,
BEST LAP TIME : 53.174 Achieved on Lap 34!
Adding up the three sector times, ultimate could have been just 3 tenths quicker which means I got pretty much as much as I could out of it on the day.
Not quite sure how tomorrows Handicap race works as the faster cars will start further back on the grid and its not necessarily the fastest car that will win ??? We shall see !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on November 06, 2021, 12:10:06 AM
Post by: MattScott on November 06, 2021, 12:10:06 AM
Good luck Clive. Hope you get to enjoy the final racing of the season.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 06, 2021, 07:03:56 AM
Post by: Casey on November 06, 2021, 07:03:56 AM
I aim to be there by 9am :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 06, 2021, 01:16:49 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 06, 2021, 01:16:49 PM
What larks! The whole country is screaming for truck drivers, and here they are at Brands, spending all morning pretending lorries are race cars :))
Now the proper races seem to be starting, though.
Now the proper races seem to be starting, though.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 01:38:11 PM
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 01:38:11 PM
That was bonkers. Lol. No idea who won but i dont think it really matters as A thankyou to the Orange Army .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 01:52:52 PM
Them trucks are a very expensive bit of kit
With a huge following too
It's a good days racing and spectating , Ive just had a look amd it's the same race day line up
As our last meeting in Pembrey
Was a real good day .
Was speaking with the drivers , they race all over Europe too
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With a huge following too
It's a good days racing and spectating , Ive just had a look amd it's the same race day line up
As our last meeting in Pembrey
Was a real good day .
Was speaking with the drivers , they race all over Europe too
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Trucks at Pembrey.. blimey that bottom hairpins tight
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:01:12 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:01:12 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 06, 2021, 01:55:41 PMOh yeah
Trucks at Pembrey.. blimey that bottom hairpins tight
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Plenty of rubbing from them
Bloody fab day with the legends and yutes racing too .
Trucks are limited to 108 mph I think and they were hitting the limiter down pit straight
Pretty sure the trucks were on BARC you tube channel at Pembrey
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:05:10 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:05:10 PM
Is it the 'guy Martin ' driving a trabant in same race as Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 02:07:45 PM
Post by: boosted on November 06, 2021, 02:07:45 PM
Aye up
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 06, 2021, 06:19:59 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 06, 2021, 06:19:59 PM
Anyone who missed the live stream here it is.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 06, 2021, 07:39:55 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 06, 2021, 07:39:55 PM
Great to see you all who come to Brands today :)
Here is the race from Clive's Car. I will sort the rear camera for tomorrows race I promise.
Here is the race from Clive's Car. I will sort the rear camera for tomorrows race I promise.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: LINAS on November 06, 2021, 08:04:26 PM
Post by: LINAS on November 06, 2021, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: Prototype on November 06, 2021, 07:39:55 PMEnjoy tomorrow Clive... a pleasure to see You,And everyone else.. See you next year (which isn't to far away) Ta ta for now ..
Great to see you all who come to Brands today :)
Here is the race from Clive's Car. I will sort the rear camera for tomorrows race I promise.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 06, 2021, 10:30:33 PM
Post by: clive on November 06, 2021, 10:30:33 PM
Many thanks for making the trip Linas, also to Jim, Malcolm, Carl, Steve and of course Philip :great:
Still can't get my head around todays "race" allegedly finished 25th but starting 5th on the grid tomorrow!
Still can't get my head around todays "race" allegedly finished 25th but starting 5th on the grid tomorrow!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 07, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
Post by: re japi on November 07, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:05:10 PMUmm, is that Guy Martin that Isle of Man legend?
Is it the 'guy Martin ' driving a trabant in same race as Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 09:03:18 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 09:03:18 AM
Quote from: re japi on November 07, 2021, 07:47:28 AMYep that's one oneQuote from: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:05:10 PMUmm, is that Guy Martin that Isle of Man legend?
Is it the 'guy Martin ' driving a trabant in same race as Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on November 07, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Post by: re japi on November 07, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 09:03:18 AMAawsome. I do like him, he is crazyQuote from: re japi on November 07, 2021, 07:47:28 AMYep that's one oneQuote from: Mr Spiller on November 06, 2021, 02:05:10 PMUmm, is that Guy Martin that Isle of Man legend?
Is it the 'guy Martin ' driving a trabant in same race as Clive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 09:14:58 AM
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 09:14:58 AM
I do like him too...so i read his books and all he does is moan about being in the limelight and wish people would leave him alone ... Bizarre.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2021, 09:17:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2021, 09:17:30 AM
He's a genuinely down to earth fella.
No dramas. Some folk just don't handle the popularity or the huge transformation their lives take when becoming famous.
You read so many times how people just aren't prepared or warned about it
It must be very strange
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No dramas. Some folk just don't handle the popularity or the huge transformation their lives take when becoming famous.
You read so many times how people just aren't prepared or warned about it
It must be very strange
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 10:26:34 AM
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 10:26:34 AM
Just in the assembly area waiting to go out
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Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 10:47:11 AM
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 10:47:11 AM
Good luck! Are they letting the Trabants out for this race?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 12:12:07 PM
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 12:12:07 PM
That was fun! What happened on last lap?
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Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 12:13:02 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 12:13:02 PM
Yep was a a bit strange
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 01:59:28 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 07, 2021, 12:12:07 PMCaught the fuel pump switch changing gear 😳
That was fun! What happened on last lap?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
Debated about bending the new gear leaver a bit more last week but I thought it was far enough away from the dash to be OK.
Obviously not, in the heat of battle, I obviously caught the switch with a finger, and that was all she wrote :(
Real shame as the car was going well and I at least, as you will see in the video I had one hulluva race with a couple of very near misses, also finally I have a gear box that actually change down as well as up.
Really helped have a good race at the end of the season as this has made me more hungry to somehow get more power and boost into the car to get it properly competitive against the guys in the Thunder Saloon series.
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Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
Post by: boosted on November 07, 2021, 03:25:59 PM
Excellent news ! Good to finish on a high. Switch can be moved simple cost free solution. Looking forward to the onboard.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
Yes
Real good news the gearbox works well
Simple fix with the switch
It seemed to happen in quite a bad place with the traffic .
How much power can the gearbox take ?
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Real good news the gearbox works well
Simple fix with the switch
It seemed to happen in quite a bad place with the traffic .
How much power can the gearbox take ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:33:25 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
Yes
Real good news the gearbox works well
Simple fix with the switch
It seemed to happen in quite a bad place with the traffic .
How much power can the gearbox take ?
All correct also, How much power can the gearbox take ? Answer is what ever power I can make which is why I have persevered with this box this season :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
Really helped have a good race at the end of the season as this has made me more hungry to somehow get more power and boost into the car to get it properly competitive against the guys in the Thunder Saloon series.
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Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
Thanks for another great in car video Philip :13:
The commentary overlay makes it so much more interesting :icon_thumleft:
The commentary overlay makes it so much more interesting :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 08:35:25 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: clive on November 07, 2021, 03:33:25 PMThat's good news thenQuote from: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
Yes
Real good news the gearbox works well
Simple fix with the switch
It seemed to happen in quite a bad place with the traffic .
How much power can the gearbox take ?
All correct also, How much power can the gearbox take ? Answer is what ever power I can make which is why I have persevered with this box this season :great:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 10:06:38 PM
Post by: clive on November 07, 2021, 10:06:38 PM
Things got a bit close today!, The RS500 Sierra had already spun one way and here's the pictures of it coming back the other way. I knew it would, so I kept my foot in. Had I lifted we would have had two dead cars!!
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Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2021, 10:14:47 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 07, 2021, 10:14:47 PM
Jesus, that's too close for my liking
Bum twitching moment for both
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Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
That was very close!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 10:31:13 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 10:31:13 PM
Here is my video of the near miss.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 07, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: clive on November 07, 2021, 10:06:38 PMThat is so funny
Things got a bit close today!, The RS500 Sierra had already spun one way and here's the pictures of it coming back the other way. I knew it would, so I kept my foot in. Had I lifted we would have had two dead cars!!
That's Mike Manning
Real nice guy
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That our line up at Pembrey , he was there too
He span on the out lap for qualifying
In his defence he had just bought the car and was struggling with brake bias
Probably why
I out qualified him twice
It is 500 ho
However , he can drive
His normal click is rally crosses also has a 600 bhp fiesta
Well driven Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:40:29 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:40:29 PM
Great video catch of that close shave Philip!
Good job Clive made that instinctive twitch to the left, creating just enough extra room to avoid a collision.
Good job Clive made that instinctive twitch to the left, creating just enough extra room to avoid a collision.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:46:38 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:46:38 PM
Looking at that video again, it's a very odd place to spin. It does look like the white Ford might have tapped the RS500, sending into a spin? Clive's in-car might confirm.
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Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:49:36 PM
Post by: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:49:36 PM
Or, his brake bias was too weighted to the front and the back end snapped round?
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Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 11:08:55 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 07, 2021, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:46:38 PM
Looking at that video again, it's a very odd place to spin. It does look like the white Ford might have tapped the RS500, sending into a spin? Clive's in-car might confirm.
Yes I was filming just in case 😉
I hope to have the in car to post tomorrow evening
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 12:33:25 AM
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 12:33:25 AM
A few pics from Saturday's racing....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 08:27:15 AM
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:46:38 PM
Looking at that video again, it's a very odd place to spin. It does look like the white Ford might have tapped the RS500, sending into a spin? Clive's in-car might confirm.
Looking at the video again, I don't see any damage to the rear of the RS500, so looks like Mr Spiller's comment about brake bias issues is the most likely reason for that spin on entry to Paddock?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 08, 2021, 09:05:31 AM
Post by: clive on November 08, 2021, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: Casey on November 08, 2021, 08:27:15 AMQuote from: Casey on November 07, 2021, 10:46:38 PM
Looking at that video again, it's a very odd place to spin. It does look like the white Ford might have tapped the RS500, sending into a spin? Clive's in-car might confirm.
Looking at the video again, I don't see any damage to the rear of the RS500, so looks like Mr Spiller's comment about brake bias issues is the most likely reason for that spin on entry to Paddock?
Overdriving the car to spin at that point will be the reason, entry speed would have been just too damn fast ;)
To be fair he had never driven the track, that aside, nice guy and from what he told me, I shudder to think how much he may have paid for that car, so he's lucky he didn't take it home in a bin bag!!.
Great pictures Malcolm
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Post by: boosted on November 08, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
Happy Birthday Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 08, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Post by: clive on November 08, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 08, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
Happy Birthday Clive
Thanks Jon :great:
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Post by: boosted on November 08, 2021, 02:27:14 PM
Post by: boosted on November 08, 2021, 02:27:14 PM
Good milestone that 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 08, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 08, 2021, 02:27:53 PM
Happy birthday Clive
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Post by: therealbrad_wil on November 08, 2021, 06:11:50 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on November 08, 2021, 06:11:50 PM
Happy birthday Clive!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 08:10:07 PM
Post by: Casey on November 08, 2021, 08:10:07 PM
Happy 65th Clive ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 08, 2021, 08:24:18 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 08, 2021, 08:24:18 PM
:occasion13:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_United_Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_United_Kingdom)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_United_Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_United_Kingdom)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on November 08, 2021, 09:18:18 PM
Post by: Prototype on November 08, 2021, 09:18:18 PM
Amazing photos Malcolm, I love the one of Clive and the Trabant :sign0098:
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Post by: Prototype on November 09, 2021, 08:09:35 AM
Post by: Prototype on November 09, 2021, 08:09:35 AM
Here is Race 2
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Post by: boosted on November 09, 2021, 02:01:55 PM
Post by: boosted on November 09, 2021, 02:01:55 PM
Fast n Furious like that alot.
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Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 09, 2021, 05:54:07 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on November 09, 2021, 05:54:07 PM
Great race & very promising for next season. Thanks for posting! :great:
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Post by: Mr Spiller on November 09, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 09, 2021, 06:09:54 PM
Well driven
Good day
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 09, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
Post by: Casey on November 09, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
Race 2 video - great to watch and some great driving too Clive :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: re japi on November 10, 2021, 04:04:47 PM
Post by: re japi on November 10, 2021, 04:04:47 PM
Happy birthday Sir
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2021, 04:33:40 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2021, 04:33:40 PM
Quote from: re japi on November 10, 2021, 04:04:47 PM
Happy birthday Sir
Thanks for the comments above :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 10, 2021, 04:34:24 PM
Post by: clive on November 10, 2021, 04:34:24 PM
I was trying, honest ;)
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Post by: Casey on November 10, 2021, 08:25:48 PM
Post by: Casey on November 10, 2021, 08:25:48 PM
That is a really great picture; lighting, angle, sharpness, composition :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: boosted on November 10, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Post by: boosted on November 10, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Really does show the elevation.. gotta do Brands next years compare Craner curves to Paddock hill Bend...
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 10:38:48 AM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 10:38:48 AM
This amused me 1300cc Rotary outpowering a 5300cc V12 (he couldn't get me on the straight either) :mrgreen:
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Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 10:42:36 AM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 10:42:36 AM
Apt to post this on the morning of the 11th. If you look close you can see the red poppy I carried on Sunday
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Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 12:40:25 PM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2021, 12:40:25 PM
https://youtu.be/7ZZkjzDSQ9I
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 06:52:24 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 06:52:24 PM
Quote from: clive on November 11, 2021, 12:40:25 PMMr Clive
https://youtu.be/7ZZkjzDSQ9I
Where did you get your fibreglass doors from ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 17, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
Post by: clive on November 17, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
Here you go Wayne https://www.modception.com/products/se3p
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Post by: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PM
There very good Wayne ive seen em in person .
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:07:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: clive on November 17, 2021, 07:33:24 PMThanks Clive
Here you go Wayne https://www.modception.com/products/se3p
Was about to start cutting them up
Then thought hang a banger , Clive done that the changes to fibreglass
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PMCheers Jon
There very good Wayne ive seen em in person
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Amd since I've given up smoking they will
Kind of be for free
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:10:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:10:30 PM
Quote from: clive on November 17, 2021, 07:33:24 PMClive
Here you go Wayne https://www.modception.com/products/se3p
What was vat through customs ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
Post by: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:08:54 PMWell doneQuote from: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PMCheers Jon
There very good Wayne ive seen em in person
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Many thanks
Amd since I've given up smoking they will
Kind of be for free
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:13:32 PMYep your rightQuote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:08:54 PMWell doneQuote from: boosted on November 17, 2021, 08:03:14 PMCheers Jon
There very good Wayne ive seen em in person
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Many thanks
Amd since I've given up smoking they will
Kind of be for free
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My favourite crisps - prawn cocktail which I W ate for last 30 years now a tad too strong , or the wrong taste
I'm happy
Could eat a ciiggy sometimes
Never ate Chocolate , yet now I have a bit of a thing for it
So yeah , up half a stone but happy
No puffer
No nothing
Just a very hard first 3 weeks
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 18, 2021, 09:16:34 AM
Post by: clive on November 18, 2021, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2021, 08:10:30 PMQuote from: clive on November 17, 2021, 07:33:24 PMClive
Here you go Wayne https://www.modception.com/products/se3p
What was vat through customs ?
20% of the imported goods
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 20, 2021, 09:25:52 AM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2021, 09:25:52 AM
If I watch this I may have some idea about why on earth he took this toy car out with such crazy fast machinery! (and ignored black flags disqualifying him and his two mates)
If it would have been one of us ignoring flags we would have had the MSA throwing the book at us!
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/guy-martin-star-guys-garage-6218719
The Trabant features in this series!!
If it would have been one of us ignoring flags we would have had the MSA throwing the book at us!
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/guy-martin-star-guys-garage-6218719
The Trabant features in this series!!
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Post by: boosted on November 20, 2021, 09:33:28 AM
Post by: boosted on November 20, 2021, 09:33:28 AM
Ive got 2 of his books Clive i can send you for a read .
I said it before i really liked him and then i read his books...its all TV celebrity inflated ego nonsense.
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. I said it before i really liked him and then i read his books...its all TV celebrity inflated ego nonsense.
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Post by: clive on November 20, 2021, 05:51:58 PM
Post by: clive on November 20, 2021, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 20, 2021, 09:33:28 AM
Ive got 2 of his books Clive i can send you for a read
I said it before i really liked him and then i read his books...its all TV celebrity inflated ego nonsense.
Thank you anyway, but I think your info above tells me enough !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on November 21, 2021, 11:09:02 AM
Post by: clive on November 21, 2021, 11:09:02 AM
End of season clear out / 12 tyres for free / collection only / Sundridge Kent. Various sizes Suit 9-10 wide x 18
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Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 08:11:36 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 08:11:36 AM
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Clive!
Saw this and thought of you!
Just see you bringing Christine to the track with this hahaha
You can thank me later lol
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Clive!
Saw this and thought of you!
Just see you bringing Christine to the track with this hahaha
You can thank me later lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 09:32:01 AM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 09:32:01 AM
Yes I could love that, but only if it was yellow and blue :)) :))
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Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 10:08:56 AM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 10:08:56 AM
Had a bit of a surprise yesterday when a Thunder Saloon award arrived in the post, the first in the this series .
Despite running around on no revs at Mallory due to oil on the clutch, apparently I finished third in class !
Turns out they had been trying to get it to me for a while and I have thanked them for persevering.
So different from the Track Attack lot where they couldn't even be bothered to send me the Trophy for winning overall last season!!!
Work will start on the car this coming week.
First up is to rebuild my front brake callipers. When I went to get the car out of the garage for its last outing on Friday I found the front brakes were seized on, that explains why I had lost lap time between testing on the Friday and the Racing on the Saturday, the brakes were binding !
BTW 9pm Monday night on Channel 4 we will find out what the stupid handicap race was all about during the Guy Martin show
https://youtu.be/augKhs7LRRE
Despite running around on no revs at Mallory due to oil on the clutch, apparently I finished third in class !
Turns out they had been trying to get it to me for a while and I have thanked them for persevering.
So different from the Track Attack lot where they couldn't even be bothered to send me the Trophy for winning overall last season!!!
Work will start on the car this coming week.
First up is to rebuild my front brake callipers. When I went to get the car out of the garage for its last outing on Friday I found the front brakes were seized on, that explains why I had lost lap time between testing on the Friday and the Racing on the Saturday, the brakes were binding !
BTW 9pm Monday night on Channel 4 we will find out what the stupid handicap race was all about during the Guy Martin show
https://youtu.be/augKhs7LRRE
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Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2021, 10:08:56 AMCongrats
Had a bit of a surprise yesterday when a Thunder Saloon award arrived in the post, the first in the this series .
Despite running around on no revs at Mallory due to oil on the clutch, apparently I finished third in class !
Turns out they had been trying to get it to me for a while and I have thanked them for persevering.
So different from the Track Attack lot where they couldn't even be bothered to send me the Trophy for winning overall last season!!!
Work will start on the car this coming week.
First up is to rebuild my front brake callipers. When I went to get the car out of the garage for its last outing on Friday I found the front brakes were seized on, that explains why I had lost lap time between testing on the Friday and the Racing on the Saturday, the brakes were binding !
BTW 9pm Monday night on Channel 4 we will find out what the stupid handicap race was all about during the Guy Martin show
https://youtu.be/augKhs7LRRE
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Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 05, 2021, 11:04:22 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on December 05, 2021, 11:04:22 AM
Congrats! And a nice trophy, too! :great:
The binding brakes issue is not limited to old school Mazdas after all, then? Had to do the calipers on mine to get it through the MOT.
The binding brakes issue is not limited to old school Mazdas after all, then? Had to do the calipers on mine to get it through the MOT.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
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And one more bit of silliness if your man fancies some different camera angles for race day .....
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And one more bit of silliness if your man fancies some different camera angles for race day .....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
Post by: clive on December 05, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
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And one more bit of silliness if your man fancies some different camera angles for race day .....
Saw this the other day and thought it was brilliant.
I have a feeling this may be Fangio, as I have seen footage of him where you see him driving face on
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 01:47:12 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 01:47:12 PM
Quote from: clive on December 05, 2021, 01:33:03 PMI think the clerk of the course may deem this a little unsafe in these days.Quote from: Jamie R on December 05, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
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And one more bit of silliness if your man fancies some different camera angles for race day .....
Saw this the other day and thought it was brilliant.
I have a feeling this may be Fangio, as I have seen footage of him where you see him driving face on
I dunno.... They're all snowflakes !!
I fail to see the issue.... I mean..... if the cameraman's bottom provides a bit of downforce it's all good
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on December 13, 2021, 09:42:07 AM
Post by: clive on December 13, 2021, 09:42:07 AM
Don't miss the latest episode of 'Guy's Garage tonight!
This week Guy sets out to turn a Trabant into a race car and compete alongside the Classic Touring Car Racing Club at Brands Hatch - it's not to be missed!
This week Guy sets out to turn a Trabant into a race car and compete alongside the Classic Touring Car Racing Club at Brands Hatch - it's not to be missed!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Sarcasm is a dish best served cold
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 18, 2022, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: clive on January 18, 2022, 06:15:19 PM
Couple of decent pictures have just popped up from last years Donnington.
I was well down on power but still had a great race with my old mate Tony Paxman in his Escort, first raced against Tony probaby forty years ago!.
p.s. shortly I will start bringing updates of the cars upgrades for the coming season
I was well down on power but still had a great race with my old mate Tony Paxman in his Escort, first raced against Tony probaby forty years ago!.
p.s. shortly I will start bringing updates of the cars upgrades for the coming season
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Post by: Casey on January 18, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
Post by: Casey on January 18, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
Great photos :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 04:35:51 PM
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 04:35:51 PM
Latest Race Car update,
Now working in earnest, trying to get the car ready for the first race on March 26/27 Silverstone International.
I desperately need more power to be competitive this season, so the cars going to have the following upgrades.
Cosmo 13B intake
Hemi 85mm Throttle Body
Devils Water Injection kit to get more Boost Sir
Link Wire in Xtreme GX4 ECU
Super rare Intake is proving to be a challenge!.
I bought one that had been butchered with 4 injector ports stuck on the top.
Managed to get it tidied up and actually dummied up and onto the car yesterday and got it to fit without chopping the bulkhead.
Biggest challenge is the fuel rail, because the lower intake was also chopped about, its going to have to have something very special designed and made for a fuel rail out of solid bar to hold the injectors in the correct place.
I always try and operate with the old adage of "no such word as can't" but I am going to need a machinist extraordinaire to make this fuel rail / STEVE, STEVE are you listening ;) ;)
Lastly, happily I do have an expert who is coming on board to be part of the team that makes all this happen, who will be a big help for this year's campaign.
This is a someone who many of you know, all will be revealed in good time :great:.
Now working in earnest, trying to get the car ready for the first race on March 26/27 Silverstone International.
I desperately need more power to be competitive this season, so the cars going to have the following upgrades.
Cosmo 13B intake
Hemi 85mm Throttle Body
Devils Water Injection kit to get more Boost Sir
Link Wire in Xtreme GX4 ECU
Super rare Intake is proving to be a challenge!.
I bought one that had been butchered with 4 injector ports stuck on the top.
Managed to get it tidied up and actually dummied up and onto the car yesterday and got it to fit without chopping the bulkhead.
Biggest challenge is the fuel rail, because the lower intake was also chopped about, its going to have to have something very special designed and made for a fuel rail out of solid bar to hold the injectors in the correct place.
I always try and operate with the old adage of "no such word as can't" but I am going to need a machinist extraordinaire to make this fuel rail / STEVE, STEVE are you listening ;) ;)
Lastly, happily I do have an expert who is coming on board to be part of the team that makes all this happen, who will be a big help for this year's campaign.
This is a someone who many of you know, all will be revealed in good time :great:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 04:53:50 PM
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 04:53:50 PM
I must admit with a new loom i can breathe easier everytime you race now lol.
Used to to think about every crimp connection working loose ha ha.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on January 23, 2022, 05:06:50 PM
Post by: Casey on January 23, 2022, 05:06:50 PM
Some good plans and gear there Clive :happy3:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 23, 2022, 06:09:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 23, 2022, 06:09:40 PM
Good luck Clive
How much more power are you aiming for this year ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2022, 06:11:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 23, 2022, 06:11:04 PM
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Good luck Clive
How much more power are you aiming for this year ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 08:00:30 PM
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 23, 2022, 04:53:50 PM
I must admit with a new loom i can breathe easier everytime you race now lol.
Used to to think about every crimp connection working loose ha ha.
You needn't have worried, your side of the car has always been super reliable thank you.
Only reason the Adaptronic and the loom has to go is the quest for more power >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 08:03:09 PM
Post by: clive on January 23, 2022, 08:03:09 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 23, 2022, 06:11:04 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on January 23, 2022, 06:09:40 PM(https://media4.giphy.com/media/sEULHciNa7tUQ/giphy.gif)
Good luck Clive
How much more power are you aiming for this year ?
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That sums it up nicely,
How much more power depends on what the screen says when it comes off the dyno ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 08:21:57 PM
Post by: boosted on January 23, 2022, 08:21:57 PM
You cant have to easy if you had been at the pointy end in this new series they wouldve banned you from this lol.
Heres hoping for a better year and some great results but still a development year Champ
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2022, 04:58:10 AM
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2022, 04:58:10 AM
Umm... What Link can do that Adaptronic cant?
Yeah, those Cosmo intakes are rare and expencive...
But I have to ask, why did you choose to go this way? Cause I reckon that it would be easier and cheaper to port more that engine
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Yeah, those Cosmo intakes are rare and expencive...
But I have to ask, why did you choose to go this way? Cause I reckon that it would be easier and cheaper to port more that engine
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 09:50:52 AM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 23, 2022, 08:21:57 PM
You cant have to easy if you had been at the pointy end in this new series they wouldve banned you from this lol.
Heres hoping for a better year and some great results but still a development year Champ
Thanks Jon,
Even more focus going into trying to be more competitive this season.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 09:52:55 AM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: re japi on January 24, 2022, 04:58:10 AM
Umm... What Link can do that Adaptronic cant?
Yeah, those Cosmo intakes are rare and expencive...
But I have to ask, why did you choose to go this way? Cause I reckon that it would be easier and cheaper to port more that engine
More porting or PP would just shift the power so far up the rev range that the thing would be undrivable in the wet and getting it off the corners!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2022, 09:57:51 AM
Post by: re japi on January 24, 2022, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: clive on January 24, 2022, 09:52:55 AMWell, I just wondered, that you still have street port? Maybe going for just a bit secondarys wont raise power band too up?Quote from: re japi on January 24, 2022, 04:58:10 AM
Umm... What Link can do that Adaptronic cant?
Yeah, those Cosmo intakes are rare and expencive...
But I have to ask, why did you choose to go this way? Cause I reckon that it would be easier and cheaper to port more that engine
More porting or PP would just shift the power so far up the rev range that the thing would be undrivable in the wet and getting it off the corners!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 06:20:53 PM
Post by: clive on January 24, 2022, 06:20:53 PM
Still Big Street Port Jarno and still have a bit of lag.
With water injection and more boost this will bring the power in lower down
With water injection and more boost this will bring the power in lower down
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2022, 06:39:36 PM
Post by: boosted on January 24, 2022, 06:39:36 PM
Pair of HT12 twins..no lag....job done.
Invoice in the post.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 25, 2022, 07:17:57 PM
Post by: clive on January 25, 2022, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 24, 2022, 06:39:36 PM
Pair of HT12 twins..no lag....job done.
Invoice in the post.
:)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 25, 2022, 09:16:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 25, 2022, 09:16:35 PM
Quote from: clive on January 23, 2022, 04:35:51 PMClive
Latest Race Car update,
Now working in earnest, trying to get the car ready for the first race on March 26/27 Silverstone International.
I desperately need more power to be competitive this season, so the cars going to have the following upgrades.
Cosmo 13B intake
Hemi 85mm Throttle Body
Devils Water Injection kit to get more Boost Sir
Link Wire in Xtreme GX4 ECU
Super rare Intake is proving to be a challenge!.
I bought one that had been butchered with 4 injector ports stuck on the top.
Managed to get it tidied up and actually dummied up and onto the car yesterday and got it to fit without chopping the bulkhead.
Biggest challenge is the fuel rail, because the lower intake was also chopped about, its going to have to have something very special designed and made for a fuel rail out of solid bar to hold the injectors in the correct place.
I always try and operate with the old adage of "no such word as can't" but I am going to need a machinist extraordinaire to make this fuel rail / STEVE, STEVE are you listening ;) ;)
Lastly, happily I do have an expert who is coming on board to be part of the team that makes all this happen, who will be a big help for this year's campaign.
This is a someone who many of you know, all will be revealed in good time :great:.
That devils own water
Is that water with meth ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 26, 2022, 08:46:52 AM
Post by: clive on January 26, 2022, 08:46:52 AM
O'yes,meth will be involved :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2022, 07:49:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2022, 07:49:45 PM
Quote from: clive on January 26, 2022, 08:46:52 AMThought so
O'yes,meth will be involved :great:
But must check
So will the link run the water meth system ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 27, 2022, 08:28:22 AM
Post by: clive on January 27, 2022, 08:28:22 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2022, 07:49:45 PMQuote from: clive on January 26, 2022, 08:46:52 AMThought so
O'yes,meth will be involved :great:
But must check
So will the link run the water meth system ?
O'yes, there's lots of axillary feeds to operate many things.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 27, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 27, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: clive on January 27, 2022, 08:28:22 AMLaunch control being a major factor I guess ?Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2022, 07:49:45 PMQuote from: clive on January 26, 2022, 08:46:52 AMThought so
O'yes,meth will be involved :great:
But must check
So will the link run the water meth system ?
O'yes, there's lots of axillary feeds to operate many things.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 28, 2022, 08:59:56 AM
Post by: clive on January 28, 2022, 08:59:56 AM
You can have traction control and anti lag
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:10:28 AM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:10:28 AM
Read up on the Link. Thats a very smart ECU. Boost by gear too. Could be handy that coupled with launch and antilag.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:11:58 AM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:11:58 AM
I cant remember but did i cut out the abs feed wires? I thought i disconnected them but they were still in? As your gonna need wheel speed sensors ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:37:46 AM
Post by: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:37:46 AM
Lol. Im gonna have to update you moniker... Champ (with driver aids now). 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2022, 09:42:35 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 28, 2022, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:10:28 AMYeah boost by gear is brilliant
Read up on the Link. Thats a very smart ECU. Boost by gear too. Could be handy that coupled with launch and antilag.
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Should make car more drivable
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2022, 09:16:03 AM
Post by: boosted on January 29, 2022, 09:16:03 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 07:45:33 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 28, 2022, 09:37:46 AM
Lol. Im gonna have to update you moniker... Champ (with driver aids now).
I need all the aids I can get at my age ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:12:15 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:12:15 PM
Race car update, spent the last two days solid on the new manifold assembly's with Steve carrying out amazing work, using his tool making engineering skills to devise and make a complicated, two part secondary injector rail on the shortened lower Cosmo manifold.
Some here know who Steve is but to those that don't he is DS Engineering who is not only a huge reason for the car's success over the years, but you will see below he can make miracles out of a lump of metal. Right enough of that praising stuff or he won't get through the workshop door Monday.
Some here know who Steve is but to those that don't he is DS Engineering who is not only a huge reason for the car's success over the years, but you will see below he can make miracles out of a lump of metal. Right enough of that praising stuff or he won't get through the workshop door Monday.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:19:15 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:19:15 PM
Next up was the upper manifold / You can see how it started, then I ported it out, then used Devcon to get the right shape then Steve milled the face off, also fitting the link temperature sensor ready for the mew ECU.
Next was fitting the adaptor to fit the Hemi throttle body.
Next was fitting the adaptor to fit the Hemi throttle body.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:24:42 PM
Post by: clive on January 29, 2022, 08:24:42 PM
Best of all, everything fits inside the engine bay. :great:
Next week I need to get the rest of the bay finished and have the dump valve boss welded into the pipe the goes from the throttle body to the intercooler, thanks to Steve's help the mods to get more power are really coming along now.
Next week I need to get the rest of the bay finished and have the dump valve boss welded into the pipe the goes from the throttle body to the intercooler, thanks to Steve's help the mods to get more power are really coming along now.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on January 30, 2022, 03:04:24 PM
Post by: clive on January 30, 2022, 03:04:24 PM
Lisa's just got my Christmas present back from the framers to go in the office, she obviously knows me very well ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 30, 2022, 07:42:47 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on January 30, 2022, 07:42:47 PM
:great: :great: :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 01, 2022, 05:39:33 PM
Post by: clive on February 01, 2022, 05:39:33 PM
Good day today/
Picked up the modified pipe to take the HKS blow off valve and the Engine bay is now complete :)
Once back from being Mapped the Cosmo plenum will be painted in blue enamel like the lower manifold.
Picked up the modified pipe to take the HKS blow off valve and the Engine bay is now complete :)
Once back from being Mapped the Cosmo plenum will be painted in blue enamel like the lower manifold.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 03, 2022, 08:36:59 AM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2022, 08:36:59 AM
My new part time job ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2022, 10:45:28 AM
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2022, 10:45:28 AM
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on February 04, 2022, 09:21:18 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on February 04, 2022, 09:21:18 PM
Looks lovely, just needs some control adding :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on February 05, 2022, 09:29:42 AM
Post by: clive on February 05, 2022, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: lennycarloff on February 04, 2022, 09:21:18 PM
Looks lovely, just needs some control adding :sign0098:
Thanks Jim, Needs a a bit more than just control to make it work again ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 02, 2022, 11:38:44 AM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2022, 11:38:44 AM
Just remembered, Jon asked me for the date of the first race.
March 26/27 Silverstone International
Today CTRC announced they have 120 cars booked for the event, including the first round of the Super Tourers which are the former BTCC cars from the 1990's early 2000's
John Cleland will be racing, plus 4 time BTCC champion Colin Turkington will be racing one of the MG's he started with in BTCC amongst other stars.
Hugely expensive cars to run with some needing full engine rebuilds after just 400 miles due to being so highly strung!
I also have a proper test day booked one week before at Brands should anyone wish to come along
March 26/27 Silverstone International
Today CTRC announced they have 120 cars booked for the event, including the first round of the Super Tourers which are the former BTCC cars from the 1990's early 2000's
John Cleland will be racing, plus 4 time BTCC champion Colin Turkington will be racing one of the MG's he started with in BTCC amongst other stars.
Hugely expensive cars to run with some needing full engine rebuilds after just 400 miles due to being so highly strung!
I also have a proper test day booked one week before at Brands should anyone wish to come along
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2022, 11:56:12 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2022, 11:56:12 AM
Sounds good!
Dunno if I'll get to brands being in the deepest darkest corners of the world, but me and emma will def be at silverstone
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Dunno if I'll get to brands being in the deepest darkest corners of the world, but me and emma will def be at silverstone
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 02, 2022, 12:07:44 PM
Post by: clive on March 02, 2022, 12:07:44 PM
Excellent news, Jon's hoping to be there and Jim should be as well
I am saying to everyone that Saturday will be the better day as you get qually and a race.
I am saying to everyone that Saturday will be the better day as you get qually and a race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2022, 01:11:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 02, 2022, 01:11:15 PM
Tickets booked,
Pray for good weather
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 12, 2022, 03:04:51 PM
Post by: clive on March 12, 2022, 03:04:51 PM
Race Car Update------------- Christine continues to fight me !
First of all HUGE thanks to Jim ( lennycarloff) on here, has gone way way beyond the call of duty to get me on track this year and ATM Pip who is also pulling out all the stops as well.
Jim has been an absolute star because initially he thought he could get the car into a workshop, but instead he has completely rewired the car on his drive across the last three weeks, literally in the cold, the rain and the snow up north in Wakefield .
Not only that he has fitted the Devils own water injection and has the car wired for the next stage once we have the car out racing, which is full traction and launch control.
One of the biggest feats has been to make the standard RX-8 throttle pedal, communicate with the Hemi throttle body through the Link Xtreme ECU.
Now for the bad side!
Pip has dropped all his work to get the car sorted and has now been on it for three days.
First issue was that with all the extra electrical draw, the small custom alternator had a field go down and could not supply enough voltage to map the car. We managed to find a Wosp race alternator that Pips's made fit.
Next with the car now charging, next issue became the car had stopped making boost even though the car was fine last time out.
I made frantic phone calls yesterday afternoon and probably got the only 60mm Tial wastegate that's available in the UK. "Hopefully" this will be delivered this afternoon and it can go on the car Monday and be finally mapped with more boost than ever due to having the water injection that's now on board.
All the panic is to get the car ready for a full day test at Brands on Friday, then all being well off to Silverstone for the first Race of the season the following weekend, the 26h & 27th
First of all HUGE thanks to Jim ( lennycarloff) on here, has gone way way beyond the call of duty to get me on track this year and ATM Pip who is also pulling out all the stops as well.
Jim has been an absolute star because initially he thought he could get the car into a workshop, but instead he has completely rewired the car on his drive across the last three weeks, literally in the cold, the rain and the snow up north in Wakefield .
Not only that he has fitted the Devils own water injection and has the car wired for the next stage once we have the car out racing, which is full traction and launch control.
One of the biggest feats has been to make the standard RX-8 throttle pedal, communicate with the Hemi throttle body through the Link Xtreme ECU.
Now for the bad side!
Pip has dropped all his work to get the car sorted and has now been on it for three days.
First issue was that with all the extra electrical draw, the small custom alternator had a field go down and could not supply enough voltage to map the car. We managed to find a Wosp race alternator that Pips's made fit.
Next with the car now charging, next issue became the car had stopped making boost even though the car was fine last time out.
I made frantic phone calls yesterday afternoon and probably got the only 60mm Tial wastegate that's available in the UK. "Hopefully" this will be delivered this afternoon and it can go on the car Monday and be finally mapped with more boost than ever due to having the water injection that's now on board.
All the panic is to get the car ready for a full day test at Brands on Friday, then all being well off to Silverstone for the first Race of the season the following weekend, the 26h & 27th
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 12, 2022, 03:31:41 PM
Post by: boosted on March 12, 2022, 03:31:41 PM
Welldone Jim..big job
Bet there was a few sleepness nights had
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 12, 2022, 03:31:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 12, 2022, 03:31:42 PM
Best of luck Clive
Good news
I did see it up pips on Thursday
Glad it's on the mend
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Good news
I did see it up pips on Thursday
Glad it's on the mend
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2022, 03:37:58 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2022, 03:37:58 PM
Look forward to see it at silverstone in all its glory
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on March 13, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Post by: MattScott on March 13, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 13, 2022, 10:45:58 AM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 13, 2022, 10:45:58 AM
Thanks John, it wasn't an easy one. It was made easier by the fact someone had ripped 90% of the detritus out. :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 10:52:18 AM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 10:52:18 AM
Lol. Did you take the rollcage side bar out? I took the passenger side out after 3 days as got fed up climbing over it. Sterling job.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 10:53:09 AM
Post by: boosted on March 13, 2022, 10:53:09 AM
I had to google " detritus"
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:59:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2022, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 13, 2022, 10:53:09 AMIt's the Greek god of wiring isn't it ???
I had to google " detritus"
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Post by: Casey on March 13, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Well done Jim and Pip :notworthy:.
I'm hoping all goes smoothly with the final work needed on the car and you get a good shakedown at Brands, Clive :icon_thumleft:
I'm hoping all goes smoothly with the final work needed on the car and you get a good shakedown at Brands, Clive :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 13, 2022, 07:57:46 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 13, 2022, 07:57:46 PM
The passenger side roll cage was the first job. I had some help from a mate of mine to get it started and help getting the e-throttle working nice. So thanks to Karl for his input.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 07:17:45 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 07:17:45 AM
Who would have known all those years ago ....
When blue circle cement paint would allow Christine to stand up against the war in Ukraine
You go girl
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You go girl
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2022, 11:21:33 AM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2022, 11:21:33 AM
Hasn't been lost that the car is predominantly blue and yellow,
Lisa asked me to put a small sticker on the nose for next weekend.
Lisa asked me to put a small sticker on the nose for next weekend.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 12:20:04 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 12:20:04 PM
Fitting tribute
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 14, 2022, 07:12:55 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 14, 2022, 07:12:55 PM
Well done!
Rotaries for Ukraine! :sign0098:
Rotaries for Ukraine! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 07:48:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 14, 2022, 07:48:07 PM
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I'm sure clive will forgive me for "defecating" on his thread.....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2022, 07:50:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2022, 07:50:51 PM
Quote from: clive on March 12, 2022, 03:04:51 PMDid the watergate turn up on time Clive ?
Race Car Update------------- Christine continues to fight me !
First of all HUGE thanks to Jim ( lennycarloff) on here, has gone way way beyond the call of duty to get me on track this year and ATM Pip who is also pulling out all the stops as well.
Jim has been an absolute star because initially he thought he could get the car into a workshop, but instead he has completely rewired the car on his drive across the last three weeks, literally in the cold, the rain and the snow up north in Wakefield .
Not only that he has fitted the Devils own water injection and has the car wired for the next stage once we have the car out racing, which is full traction and launch control.
One of the biggest feats has been to make the standard RX-8 throttle pedal, communicate with the Hemi throttle body through the Link Xtreme ECU.
Now for the bad side!
Pip has dropped all his work to get the car sorted and has now been on it for three days.
First issue was that with all the extra electrical draw, the small custom alternator had a field go down and could not supply enough voltage to map the car. We managed to find a Wosp race alternator that Pips's made fit.
Next with the car now charging, next issue became the car had stopped making boost even though the car was fine last time out.
I made frantic phone calls yesterday afternoon and probably got the only 60mm Tial wastegate that's available in the UK. "Hopefully" this will be delivered this afternoon and it can go on the car Monday and be finally mapped with more boost than ever due to having the water injection that's now on board.
All the panic is to get the car ready for a full day test at Brands on Friday, then all being well off to Silverstone for the first Race of the season the following weekend, the 26h & 27th
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 14, 2022, 09:22:08 PM
Post by: clive on March 14, 2022, 09:22:08 PM
Yes, Wastegate should have been here on a Saturday special, arrived this afternoon and Pip fitted it this evening.
Sitting in a Hotel in Crewe ATM so I can be with the car first thing in the morning
Sitting in a Hotel in Crewe ATM so I can be with the car first thing in the morning
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2022, 09:32:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2022, 09:32:05 PM
Quote from: clive on March 14, 2022, 09:22:08 PMGreat news
Yes, Wastegate should have been here on a Saturday special, arrived this afternoon and Pip fitted it this evening.
Sitting in a Hotel in Crewe ATM so I can be with the car first thing in the morning
All in good time
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2022, 05:10:17 AM
Post by: boosted on March 15, 2022, 05:10:17 AM
Fingers crossed all goes well.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 15, 2022, 09:15:53 PM
Post by: clive on March 15, 2022, 09:15:53 PM
Bad bad girl Christine !
Not a good day today------------no testing on Friday :(
Pip has been a star and actually went back to work late last night to get the new wastegate fitted so we could be ready for the dyno today.
With the charging issues, wastegate etc, he has now had 4 days on the car!
Car has literally been on the dyno all day with Pip (and myself) chasing issues,
None are to do with any of Jim's install or the new hardware installs (intake manifold etc)
Initially Pip chased a small misfire and got that cured, then we could not get any boost, which we traced to a faulty Turbosmart T piece which had a non return valve that was stuck, then a split pipe probably caused by disturbing the wastegate.
Now we had properly controlled boost we had fluctuating fuel pressure!
Fitted a new Bosch O44 pump but still the car would not hold constant fuel pressure :(
We now believe the standard Mazda pump that was being used as a lift pump is just not man enough to keep the swirl pot full that then feeds the 044.
Going back Thursday to upgrade the Mazda fuel pump assembly to one of our 255 Walbro pumps that we sell so we can get the car back on the Dyno for Friday.
Sadly due to not being able to test, Silverstone qualifying is now compromised.
(A) the car will drive differently, as we already know we have more bottom end power and (B) I will lose the first few laps bedding new brake pads in!!
Not a good day today------------no testing on Friday :(
Pip has been a star and actually went back to work late last night to get the new wastegate fitted so we could be ready for the dyno today.
With the charging issues, wastegate etc, he has now had 4 days on the car!
Car has literally been on the dyno all day with Pip (and myself) chasing issues,
None are to do with any of Jim's install or the new hardware installs (intake manifold etc)
Initially Pip chased a small misfire and got that cured, then we could not get any boost, which we traced to a faulty Turbosmart T piece which had a non return valve that was stuck, then a split pipe probably caused by disturbing the wastegate.
Now we had properly controlled boost we had fluctuating fuel pressure!
Fitted a new Bosch O44 pump but still the car would not hold constant fuel pressure :(
We now believe the standard Mazda pump that was being used as a lift pump is just not man enough to keep the swirl pot full that then feeds the 044.
Going back Thursday to upgrade the Mazda fuel pump assembly to one of our 255 Walbro pumps that we sell so we can get the car back on the Dyno for Friday.
Sadly due to not being able to test, Silverstone qualifying is now compromised.
(A) the car will drive differently, as we already know we have more bottom end power and (B) I will lose the first few laps bedding new brake pads in!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2022, 09:22:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2022, 09:22:40 PM
Awful news Clive
At least you have a plan
Is there not anywhere you can bed the brakes in ?
Good luck
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At least you have a plan
Is there not anywhere you can bed the brakes in ?
Good luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2022, 04:57:19 AM
Post by: re japi on March 16, 2022, 04:57:19 AM
Bugger... Shes fighting against you
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 16, 2022, 08:03:49 AM
Post by: Casey on March 16, 2022, 08:03:49 AM
Arrrrrggghhhh, Christine! Behave yourself :(
Wishing you luck in sorting out these gremlins.
Wishing you luck in sorting out these gremlins.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 16, 2022, 08:43:15 AM
Post by: clive on March 16, 2022, 08:43:15 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2022, 09:22:40 PM
Awful news Clive
At least you have a plan
Is there not anywhere you can bed the brakes in ?
Good luck
Going to ask Pip to operate the hand brake on the dyno so at least the rears will be bedded in a little as these normally take longer to get some bite.
p.s. Times like these, I do have to remind myself, "I do this for fun" ! (I do know the end result will be worth it though)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2022, 09:08:09 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2022, 09:08:09 AM
Quote from: clive on March 16, 2022, 08:43:15 AMI was wondering could you get a few heat cycles up on his entry roadQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2022, 09:22:40 PM
Awful news Clive
At least you have a plan
Is there not anywhere you can bed the brakes in ?
Good luck
Going to ask Pip to operate the hand brake on the dyno so at least the rears will be bedded in a little as these normally take longer to get some bite.
p.s. Times like these, I do have to remind myself, "I do this for fun" ! (I do know the end result will be worth it though)
Good luck
Wayne
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2022, 04:26:52 PM
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2022, 04:26:52 PM
Hopefully better news this evening?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 16, 2022, 07:57:25 PM
Post by: clive on March 16, 2022, 07:57:25 PM
I did wonder that Wayne ;) That won't actually bed them in though :(
Jon, no news today, going up again tomorrow to upgrade the pumps fuel pot and get the car ready for another session on Friday.
Jon, no news today, going up again tomorrow to upgrade the pumps fuel pot and get the car ready for another session on Friday.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 17, 2022, 10:52:38 PM
Post by: clive on March 17, 2022, 10:52:38 PM
Christine's going on a date tomorrow at Brands :great:
Good day today, fitted one of our RX-8 Pump upgrade kits and we now have correct fuel pressure, which in turn let Pip map the car.
Whilst there is more to come with a mod to the pipework going to the wastegate, you will see Pip found 67.9 BHP over the last time it sat on the Dyno, and more importantly I have more low down power.
That's for another time when Jim plumbs in even more mods he has planned (thank you Jim)
Good day today, fitted one of our RX-8 Pump upgrade kits and we now have correct fuel pressure, which in turn let Pip map the car.
Whilst there is more to come with a mod to the pipework going to the wastegate, you will see Pip found 67.9 BHP over the last time it sat on the Dyno, and more importantly I have more low down power.
That's for another time when Jim plumbs in even more mods he has planned (thank you Jim)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2022, 04:35:16 AM
Post by: re japi on March 18, 2022, 04:35:16 AM
Wow!!! That amazing result!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2022, 08:34:32 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2022, 08:34:32 AM
Great news
Good result too
And a day testing too , happy man
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Good result too
And a day testing too , happy man
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 09:01:03 AM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 09:01:03 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 09:15:14 AM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 09:15:14 AM
Have a great day testing
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 18, 2022, 12:13:57 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 18, 2022, 12:13:57 PM
Some pics from this morning(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/fbe8f43d96c7a1c60efd9573e5ca0d6f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/7ee13217674d4eb10820150ad43abfba.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/972e03573ea2ee12609d013e0d0afacb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/42516851cf31dda1a6a92502038e7727.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/2c7a80e1bdbfe3b288ce41f90880e0b8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/32733ba1c4a09da14447bc58a9e8619b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/6174f7f19acfe09e933557667f18448c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/36fb72fc147d061c610f749793326d2d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220318/0abaf863d156be8e87c352caf2871424.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 12:25:06 PM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 12:25:06 PM
Great piccies... great weather.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 18, 2022, 07:47:19 PM
Post by: clive on March 18, 2022, 07:47:19 PM
First up HUGE Thanks to Steve for bringing the rear wing to Brands and bolting it on :13:
Also to Brad who you can see from the pictures was in attendance and helped out with lots of odds and sods.
Really really pleased with the car and had a hard 25 minute session with no real issues.
Going well, found it was now fast enough to play with an Group 4 DB9 race car and a McLaren British GT car!
(The video should explain) or maybe Brad can get my drag racing along Cooper Straight from his video phone uploaded
Lots more low down grunt now with much more linnier power that's making it easier to drive, only down side was the rev limiter was set to low which restricted me
Hopefully the timing will come in later so I know the times from the day.
Still lots to do on the car before Silverstone, but we are now getting there
Also to Brad who you can see from the pictures was in attendance and helped out with lots of odds and sods.
Really really pleased with the car and had a hard 25 minute session with no real issues.
Going well, found it was now fast enough to play with an Group 4 DB9 race car and a McLaren British GT car!
(The video should explain) or maybe Brad can get my drag racing along Cooper Straight from his video phone uploaded
Lots more low down grunt now with much more linnier power that's making it easier to drive, only down side was the rev limiter was set to low which restricted me
Hopefully the timing will come in later so I know the times from the day.
Still lots to do on the car before Silverstone, but we are now getting there
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 08:26:02 PM
Post by: boosted on March 18, 2022, 08:26:02 PM
Excellent news!!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2022, 09:20:32 PM
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2022, 09:20:32 PM
Great news Clive - car looking awesome too!
Well done to the team, including Jim, Pip Steve and anyone else involved :notworthy:
Well done to the team, including Jim, Pip Steve and anyone else involved :notworthy:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2022, 10:32:59 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2022, 10:32:59 PM
Great news
Onto me t week with confidence
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: kevint on March 18, 2022, 10:49:26 PM
Post by: kevint on March 18, 2022, 10:49:26 PM
Nice one Clive, pleased for you :)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on March 18, 2022, 11:54:37 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 18, 2022, 11:54:37 PM
Glad to see Christine is behaving herself
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on March 19, 2022, 06:32:53 PM
Post by: Prototype on March 19, 2022, 06:32:53 PM
Here is the video from the test day.
https://youtu.be/VQwzqLnGbK4
https://youtu.be/VQwzqLnGbK4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 19, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
Post by: clive on March 19, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
Many thanks, excellent work as always.
Maybe worth a watch from 13 minutes on
Maybe worth a watch from 13 minutes on
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 19, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 19, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
Quote from: clive on March 19, 2022, 08:40:16 PMI must say the windows are really clear!
Many thanks, excellent work as always.
Maybe worth a watch from 13 minutes on
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on March 19, 2022, 10:06:39 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 19, 2022, 10:06:39 PM
Looks like you had great conditions to test the new upgrades Hope the shake down went well and the recent niggles are a distant memory
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 08:00:30 AM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 08:00:30 AM
Brad it obviously helped that after you cleaned the windows, I could see where I was going ;).
Below are the 1st and 2nd laps after the McLaren got by! To me, he should have been long gone with the Aston bearing back down on me ::) !!
Below are the 1st and 2nd laps after the McLaren got by! To me, he should have been long gone with the Aston bearing back down on me ::) !!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:06:26 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:06:26 AM
When did you change your steering wheel ?
Car runs brilliantly
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 20, 2022, 10:06:26 AM
When did you change your steering wheel ?
Car runs brilliantly
Thanks Wayne,
Did the wheel last December.
Steve donated a steering wheel he had laying around, then I bought the hub and quick release, then Steve machined bits so I could get the wheel sitting exactly where I wanted it to
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 02:57:45 PM
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 02:57:45 PM
Small dab of threadlock on the bolts for wheel to hub. All my cars with aftermarket steering wheels come loose over time.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 03:11:00 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 20, 2022, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 20, 2022, 02:57:45 PMOh Jon ...,
Small dab of threadlock on the bolts for wheel to hub. All my cars with aftermarket steering wheels come loose over time.
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Where's your sense of adventure?
I know ppl who take the wheel off and wave it out the window lolll
Admittedly not on track lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 05:30:16 PM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 05:30:16 PM
Quote from: boosted on March 20, 2022, 02:57:45 PM
Small dab of threadlock on the bolts for wheel to hub. All my cars with aftermarket steering wheels come loose over time.
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I Used nylocks, but will bear that in mind
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 05:45:35 PM
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 05:45:35 PM
defo add to preflight checks.. many a times ive had to tighten my 7 steering wheel up to point i have threadlocked and an allen key in glovebox. Cars going very well...is it me but she sounds different?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 07:32:31 PM
Post by: clive on March 20, 2022, 07:32:31 PM
Your right, it sounds very different, putting it down to the Cosmo intake and big throttle body as the exhaust is the same.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 07:44:38 PM
Post by: boosted on March 20, 2022, 07:44:38 PM
Have you an itenary for sat...wondering what time to arrive ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 21, 2022, 08:56:19 AM
Post by: clive on March 21, 2022, 08:56:19 AM
We will get the timetable up tonight Jon
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Silverstone timetable
Post by: clive on March 21, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
Post by: clive on March 21, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
Silverstone timetable attached.
Saturday Qualifying 11.40
First race (last race of the day!) 17.25pm
Sunday 14.45pm
tsl-timing https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/221221
Saturday Qualifying 11.40
First race (last race of the day!) 17.25pm
Sunday 14.45pm
tsl-timing https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/221221
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 21, 2022, 09:47:49 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 21, 2022, 09:47:49 PM
Best of luck Clive
Make sure we got a you tube link to watch
I've got a posh TV now i can watch you tube on
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I've got a posh TV now i can watch you tube on
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Title: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2022, 05:05:30 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 22, 2022, 05:05:30 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 21, 2022, 09:47:49 PMI shudder to think what you had previously!?!
Best of luck Clive
Make sure we got a you tube link to watch
I've got a posh TV now i can watch you tube on
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 22, 2022, 04:57:31 PM
Post by: re japi on March 22, 2022, 04:57:31 PM
Hey Clive, sorry to ask this in your topic, but do you know anyone, like Pip or someone, who has 13B PP NA engine for sale? Or PP housings?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 22, 2022, 07:46:03 PM
Post by: clive on March 22, 2022, 07:46:03 PM
Thanks Wayne.
Yes I think he has Jarno,
Pop him a mail Phillip Gardner pgautouk@gmail.com
Yes I think he has Jarno,
Pop him a mail Phillip Gardner pgautouk@gmail.com
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 23, 2022, 08:00:48 AM
Post by: re japi on March 23, 2022, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: clive on March 22, 2022, 07:46:03 PMOk, thank you sir. I will ask him.
Thanks Wayne.
Yes I think he has Jarno,
Pop him a mail Phillip Gardner pgautouk@gmail.com
Friend of mine need race engine, and theres no single one sale, or even parts, in scandinavia
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
Thanks to help along the way over the last couple of days from Steve, the cars nearly there.
Going to be busy at the weekend, just found out there's 41 on the grid.
Going to be busy at the weekend, just found out there's 41 on the grid.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2022, 09:43:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2022, 09:43:14 PM
Quote from: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:38:23 PMBest of luck Clive
Thanks to help along the way over the last couple of days from Steve, the cars nearly there.
Going to be busy at the weekend, just found out there's 41 on the grid.
No doubt you'll be lined up in the first quarter
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:55:34 PM
Post by: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 23, 2022, 09:43:14 PMQuote from: clive on March 23, 2022, 09:38:23 PMBest of luck Clive
Thanks to help along the way over the last couple of days from Steve, the cars nearly there.
Going to be busy at the weekend, just found out there's 41 on the grid.
No doubt you'll be lined up in the first quarter
With all the hard work people have put in to get me up n running for the season, I hope we can make a competitive showing.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2022, 09:59:42 AM
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2022, 09:59:42 AM
Good luck Clive (from Tenerife!) :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2022, 09:33:06 AM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2022, 09:33:06 AM
Two solid days of work between myself and Steve and we are all ready for the off this morning.
Thought I would share this picture to show just a small section of the amazing work Jim carried out in the quest for more speed this season :great:.
Thought I would share this picture to show just a small section of the amazing work Jim carried out in the quest for more speed this season :great:.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 25, 2022, 09:35:02 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 25, 2022, 09:35:02 AM
Good luck 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2022, 09:35:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2022, 09:35:48 AM
Quote from: clive on March 25, 2022, 09:33:06 AMThat's just pure witch craft right there
Two solid days of work between myself and Steve and we are all ready for the off this morning.
Thought I would share this picture to show just a small section of the amazing work Jim carried out in the quest for more speed this season :great:.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Woohoo. Nice n neat. Wheres the G4?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 25, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
Post by: clive on March 25, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: boosted on March 25, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
Woohoo. Nice n neat. Wheres the G4?
Hiding, Its all so well packaged it took me two days to notice where it was ;D
I wanted the water injection tank hidden, so Jim made a custom tank, hidden right up under the dash, all you see is the filler cap when the top of the dash is removed, mission accomplished :great: .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Post by: boosted on March 25, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
I wondered what that was... u
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2022, 06:25:07 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 25, 2022, 06:25:07 PM
See you in the morning captain.
Be there around 9.30
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on March 25, 2022, 06:52:16 PM
Post by: MattScott on March 25, 2022, 06:52:16 PM
Good luck Clive ! you get some good results !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2022, 04:31:36 AM
Post by: re japi on March 26, 2022, 04:31:36 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 25, 2022, 09:35:48 AMMy thoughts exatly too mateQuote from: clive on March 25, 2022, 09:33:06 AMThat's just pure witch craft right there
Two solid days of work between myself and Steve and we are all ready for the off this morning.
Thought I would share this picture to show just a small section of the amazing work Jim carried out in the quest for more speed this season :great:.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 26, 2022, 06:49:21 AM
Post by: clive on March 26, 2022, 06:49:21 AM
Thanks all,
Shame we are racing in the International circuit as it will suit the big V8's etc, but we shall see !
Be interesting down the Hanger straight as we dont use that on the National track
Shame we are racing in the International circuit as it will suit the big V8's etc, but we shall see !
Be interesting down the Hanger straight as we dont use that on the National track
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 26, 2022, 06:50:13 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 26, 2022, 06:50:13 AM
Best of luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2022, 06:56:48 AM
Post by: boosted on March 26, 2022, 06:56:48 AM
Hi Clive, im sorry i cant make it. Long story but im helping a mate get lights n power back into his garage after a fire. ( 4 fire engines).
Have a great day. Good luck and have FUN
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 26, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
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Cmon captain !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 26, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on March 26, 2022, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: therealbrad_wil on March 26, 2022, 12:36:04 PMTry again
Qualification
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Silverstone March 2022
Post by: clive on March 26, 2022, 07:32:57 PM
Post by: clive on March 26, 2022, 07:32:57 PM
First up, todays award for outstanding tenacity goes to Jim :thank-you: for even just getting me on the grid, working most of the day to try and work through various gremlins. The Tein EDFC decided to play up which meant I could not adjust the dampers.
Going to the grid to go out for practice the engine boiled and Jim quickly rewired the electric pump and got me out there. First race was hectic and sadly I got squeezed and made contact with an escort on the third corner!
I know that the car has a lot more to come but its still so frustrating that at the moment that people have put a lot of effort into the car to make it faster, but at the moment till we can get some decent boost into the car, the car feels slower than it did at the top end, with the long straights killing me seeing cars romp away from me that really shouldn't be able to!.
Going to pull the front wing out but sadly that's not going to make the car any quicker tomorrow!
Looking forward, gong to sort out the boost issue next week then back to Pips to find some decent power to make Brands a better event.
Going to the grid to go out for practice the engine boiled and Jim quickly rewired the electric pump and got me out there. First race was hectic and sadly I got squeezed and made contact with an escort on the third corner!
I know that the car has a lot more to come but its still so frustrating that at the moment that people have put a lot of effort into the car to make it faster, but at the moment till we can get some decent boost into the car, the car feels slower than it did at the top end, with the long straights killing me seeing cars romp away from me that really shouldn't be able to!.
Going to pull the front wing out but sadly that's not going to make the car any quicker tomorrow!
Looking forward, gong to sort out the boost issue next week then back to Pips to find some decent power to make Brands a better event.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2022, 05:50:59 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2022, 05:50:59 PM
Well, I still have sunburn on my head and face from a glorious day at Silverstone.
Nice to have a catch up with Clive and meet Jim for the first time. The bloke has hands like JCB diggers ! Im amazed by his workmanship on anything as dexterous as wiring!
Everyone seems stressed, Christine not playing ball. Im staying out the way unless needed. Clive fires the ole gurl up to a raucous barrage of pops and bangs, its sounds glorious, but im told its not right. ......sounds great to me!
Clive and Jim scurrying around her like soldier ants. Hes got the bonnet up, cant see the engine.... just a nuclear powerstation sized turbo.
Didnt realise the prang on the N/S front corner until after the race. However you can see some massaging of the front wing on the pics.
Just thought I'd share a few pics..... not going to hijack Clives thread with all the other marques of cars I was salivating over throughout the day.... but at least a few of my favourites..... esp the one where it looks like Clive has parked his car on the Armco Barrier.
Enjoy
Nice to have a catch up with Clive and meet Jim for the first time. The bloke has hands like JCB diggers ! Im amazed by his workmanship on anything as dexterous as wiring!
Everyone seems stressed, Christine not playing ball. Im staying out the way unless needed. Clive fires the ole gurl up to a raucous barrage of pops and bangs, its sounds glorious, but im told its not right. ......sounds great to me!
Clive and Jim scurrying around her like soldier ants. Hes got the bonnet up, cant see the engine.... just a nuclear powerstation sized turbo.
Didnt realise the prang on the N/S front corner until after the race. However you can see some massaging of the front wing on the pics.
Just thought I'd share a few pics..... not going to hijack Clives thread with all the other marques of cars I was salivating over throughout the day.... but at least a few of my favourites..... esp the one where it looks like Clive has parked his car on the Armco Barrier.
Enjoy
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2022, 05:53:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2022, 05:53:02 PM
A couple more
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:05:33 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:05:33 AM
Funny story about Jim. At Netherlands, they joked about me, that Im a fricin Irish (cause my ginger beard). Well, difficult to say back anything cause hes a guite a big fella Naah, I know they where just joking, atleast they had good laugh
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:06:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:06:32 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:05:33 AMAh to be sure to be sure
Funny story about Jim. At Netherlands, they joked about me, that Im a fricin Irish (cause my ginger beard). Well, difficult to say back anything cause hes a guite a big fella
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:08:51 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:08:51 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:06:32 AMHowever, I think he felt abit bad after that, cause he said that I could go take a spin in his Beast FCQuote from: re japi on March 28, 2022, 08:05:33 AMAh to be sure to be sure
Funny story about Jim. At Netherlands, they joked about me, that Im a fricin Irish (cause my ginger beard). Well, difficult to say back anything cause hes a guite a big fella
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:10:32 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:10:32 AM
Nah mate, hes a northerner, ( Yorkshire maybe) they dont pity people lol.
I think maybe he wanted to scare you in his car and make you shout irish swear words lol
I think maybe he wanted to scare you in his car and make you shout irish swear words lol
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 09:57:54 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2022, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 08:10:32 AMYeah, I think hes from Yorkshire
Nah mate, hes a northerner, ( Yorkshire maybe) they dont pity people lol.
I think maybe he wanted to scare you in his car and make you shout irish swear words lol
Well, dunno about that.. No no, he offered that I could drive it
but riding passenger in that beast would definatly scare the crap out of me Anyhoo, I like him, awesome dude
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 28, 2022, 10:04:41 AM
Post by: clive on March 28, 2022, 10:04:41 AM
Jim cheered me up last night after a bit of a torrid weekend with this amazing work of art--------------looks far to good to go into a scruffy Race Car !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 11:18:38 AM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: clive on March 28, 2022, 10:04:41 AMYup like that!
Jim cheered me up last night after a bit of a torrid weekend with this amazing work of art--------------looks far to good to go into a scruffy Race Car !
Had similar mind set for the PP 8 project we spoke about at the weekend .
Certainly the way forward for using 8 clocks without any 8 hardware
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on March 28, 2022, 02:38:24 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on March 28, 2022, 02:38:24 PM
I did talk about fitting a dash 2 but clive likes old school gauges, so this is what I came up with, the problem is the range of the rx8 fuel sender's, hopefully with both wired in parallel it will bring them in range of the stack programmable gauge. ???
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 28, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on March 28, 2022, 02:38:24 PMYeah they're a pig. In my new tank I fitted the left sender on the right and vice versa for more clearance. The stock tank has sender and fuel pump terminals one side of the tunnel and sender the other.
I did talk about fitting a dash 2 but clive likes old school gauges, so this is what I came up with, the problem is the range of the rx8 fuel sender's, hopefully with both wired in parallel it will bring them in range of the stack programmable gauge. ???
I hijacked the fuel pump terminals as my pump is external and ran both senders from the same terminal point.
Summat tells me the ohms reading maybe different for aftermarket gauges and could be a different range. But I could be wrong. It is wiring after all.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 07:59:55 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 07:59:55 PM
Due to the lack of speed at the weekend, I decided to scrap the car ;)
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Post by: Jamie R on March 29, 2022, 08:41:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 29, 2022, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: clive on March 29, 2022, 07:59:55 PMChristine won't like you saying that
Due to the lack of speed at the weekend, I decided to scrap the car ;)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 29, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 29, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
This borders on the indecent, Clive. Let her get dressed before you wave the camera around! ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 09:24:28 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 29, 2022, 08:41:20 PMQuote from: clive on March 29, 2022, 07:59:55 PMChristine won't like you saying that
Due to the lack of speed at the weekend, I decided to scrap the car ;)
:)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
Post by: clive on March 29, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on March 29, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
This borders on the indecent, Clive. Let her get dressed before you wave the camera around! ;)
Now that made me smile :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 09:15:08 AM
Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 09:15:08 AM
I had no power last week but I was still trying ;), the guy I was chasing was the BOSS series champion.
Cars been up at Pips since last week after upgrading the boost/ wastegate piping from 3.5mm to 8mm and Boost is now being controlled correctly.
Pip rang last night to tell me that the cars ready to collect and he found 408 BHP at the wheels which translates roughly to 475 at the Flywheel.
Pip wants me to see how the car goes then maybe have it back to find a little more.
Hopefully this will push the car along a little faster next week.
Cars been up at Pips since last week after upgrading the boost/ wastegate piping from 3.5mm to 8mm and Boost is now being controlled correctly.
Pip rang last night to tell me that the cars ready to collect and he found 408 BHP at the wheels which translates roughly to 475 at the Flywheel.
Pip wants me to see how the car goes then maybe have it back to find a little more.
Hopefully this will push the car along a little faster next week.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 10:33:50 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 10:33:50 AM
That's good news
Where are you racing next ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2022, 11:36:09 AM
Post by: Casey on April 06, 2022, 11:36:09 AM
Well done Pip :13:
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Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
Post by: clive on April 06, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2022, 10:33:50 AM
That's good news
Where are you racing next ?
Brands next Saturday/ Sunday.
Steve's working his socks off ATM to get the whole front end in paint so I can get it back together in time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 08, 2022, 11:41:17 AM
Post by: clive on April 08, 2022, 11:41:17 AM
Picked the car up yesterday.
Here's the (conservative) dyno as its still on low boost.
I wasn't that far out with my flywheel guesstimate after all
I always work on 17% for frictional losses from flywheel to wheels.
Here's the (conservative) dyno as its still on low boost.
I wasn't that far out with my flywheel guesstimate after all
I always work on 17% for frictional losses from flywheel to wheels.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 08, 2022, 02:00:52 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 08, 2022, 02:00:52 PM
That s a nice result
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on April 08, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 08, 2022, 04:08:44 PM
Hope she drives well at Brands Hatch
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 10, 2022, 07:14:42 PM
Post by: clive on April 10, 2022, 07:14:42 PM
Huge Thanks to Jim (Lennycarloff) who came down from Yorkshire and spent the whole weekend to continue his amazing wiring extravaganza on the race car :sign0098:.
Thanks must also go to Steve who worked on prepping and painting the wings nose and bonnet despite being not well!! :great:.
I so appreciate this help getting the car ready for its next outing at Brands next Saturday and Sunday next weekend.
Thanks must also go to Steve who worked on prepping and painting the wings nose and bonnet despite being not well!! :great:.
I so appreciate this help getting the car ready for its next outing at Brands next Saturday and Sunday next weekend.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Brands timetable
Post by: clive on April 11, 2022, 07:59:04 PM
Post by: clive on April 11, 2022, 07:59:04 PM
Time table for Brands Saturday/Sunday - Classic Touring Car Racing Club: BOSS / Thunder
Qualifying 10.15
1st Race (race 5)14.15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvRXO71PYJo
Sunday
2nd race (race 12) 10.25am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vYcnhSsM4
Qualifying 10.15
1st Race (race 5)14.15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvRXO71PYJo
Sunday
2nd race (race 12) 10.25am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vYcnhSsM4
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:23:26 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:23:26 AM
Quote from: clive on April 11, 2022, 07:59:04 PMGood luck captain ! Hope she behaves.
Time table for Brands Saturday/Sunday - Classic Touring Car Racing Club: BOSS / Thunder
Qualifying 10.15
1st Race (race 5)14.15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvRXO71PYJo
Sunday
2nd race (race 12) 10.25am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52vYcnhSsM4
Is the whole weekend being televised do you know ? Wouldn't mind trying to catch the trucks and the pick ups as well as yours ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:27:13 AM
Post by: Jamie R on April 12, 2022, 04:27:13 AM
Duhhhh
Just saw the you tube link
It is 4.26am and I don't have my readers on....
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Just saw the you tube link
It is 4.26am and I don't have my readers on....
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 15, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
Post by: clive on April 15, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
Good'ish day today with more speed to come tomorrow.
With a low rev limit that Jim will raise tomorrow, got down to a 53.5.
Very pleased with the way the car looks now after Steve repaired and painted the front end (thank you)
Not only looking forward to tomorrow, but also with all the things I have seen today, tomorrow will be a huge Monster Event and there's trucks as well.
With a low rev limit that Jim will raise tomorrow, got down to a 53.5.
Very pleased with the way the car looks now after Steve repaired and painted the front end (thank you)
Not only looking forward to tomorrow, but also with all the things I have seen today, tomorrow will be a huge Monster Event and there's trucks as well.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2022, 10:10:35 PM
Post by: boosted on April 15, 2022, 10:10:35 PM
Looks great! Have a great day
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 15, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Post by: Casey on April 15, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Good luck Clive!
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Post by: boosted on April 16, 2022, 02:04:23 PM
Post by: boosted on April 16, 2022, 02:04:23 PM
Good luck for race i gotta get some sleep for nightshift so cant tune in. 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 12:56:09 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 12:56:09 PM
So 14.35 today... Good luck for this 1. Have Fun
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 17, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
Post by: clive on April 17, 2022, 01:24:12 PM
Jon , raced at 10.25 this morning :-\
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 01:25:28 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 01:25:28 PM
Doh... i was in a bed from nights. Hope all went ok.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 17, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Post by: clive on April 17, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Sorry to everyone, who helps and follows the car it was a rubbish weekend again.
Tested on Friday with a 53.5 but come qually I lost 1.5 seconds due to the the track changing----------went downhill after that, so not too much to report, as I ran midfield all weekend!!.
All is well with the car just needs more boost putting into it after I replace the Turbo as Pip was reluctant to put more in till I get a new one fitted.
Cars cornering well, maybe too well as I am now hitting the rev limiter all over the place.
Already thinking forward, knowing I need a 4.4 rather than the 4.7 diff ratio I have fitted, which will make the gears longer and with more power this should be a big step forward.
Already booked a testday for Oulton Park the day before which is the 28th May and is a on day event.
Tested on Friday with a 53.5 but come qually I lost 1.5 seconds due to the the track changing----------went downhill after that, so not too much to report, as I ran midfield all weekend!!.
All is well with the car just needs more boost putting into it after I replace the Turbo as Pip was reluctant to put more in till I get a new one fitted.
Cars cornering well, maybe too well as I am now hitting the rev limiter all over the place.
Already thinking forward, knowing I need a 4.4 rather than the 4.7 diff ratio I have fitted, which will make the gears longer and with more power this should be a big step forward.
Already booked a testday for Oulton Park the day before which is the 28th May and is a on day event.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 08:48:34 PM
Post by: boosted on April 17, 2022, 08:48:34 PM
Onwards upwards... you gotta find 2 to 3 secs i reckon to mingle at the front.
Youll get there champ
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2022, 09:04:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 17, 2022, 09:04:45 PM
Quote from: clive on April 17, 2022, 07:43:21 PMDon't think there's any need for apologies clive.
Sorry to everyone, who helps and follows the car it was a rubbish weekend again.
Tested on Friday with a 53.5 but come qually I lost 1.5 seconds due to the the track changing----------went downhill after that, so not too much to report, as I ran midfield all weekend!!.
All is well with the car just needs more boost putting into it after I replace the Turbo as Pip was reluctant to put more in till I get a new one fitted.
Cars cornering well, maybe too well as I am now hitting the rev limiter all over the place.
Already thinking forward, knowing I need a 4.4 rather than the 4.7 diff ratio I have fitted, which will make the gears longer and with more power this should be a big step forward.
Already booked a testday for Oulton Park the day before which is the 28th May and is a on day event.
You achieve more than us mere mortals can dream of.....
And as for running midfield.... The Hiroshima hero is up against some hard hitting race cars with ££££
You need to be kind to yourself. The season still young
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on April 17, 2022, 10:19:54 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 17, 2022, 10:19:54 PM
I think we can all sympathise with you at some level or another. Every change made uncovers another 2 which need to be done. Whether modding or racing the story is often the same.
As others have said, no apologies needed. We follow you and Christine because we share the same passion........when you both win is the bonus. I'm sure the season will come back to you, just a little more fettling and a dose of good luck!
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As others have said, no apologies needed. We follow you and Christine because we share the same passion........when you both win is the bonus. I'm sure the season will come back to you, just a little more fettling and a dose of good luck!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2022, 09:20:51 AM
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2022, 09:20:51 AM
Race 1 Saturday
https://youtu.be/IOrLYCnAYKI
https://youtu.be/IOrLYCnAYKI
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 18, 2022, 11:27:21 AM
Post by: Casey on April 18, 2022, 11:27:21 AM
Well done Phil for another epic piece of editing with both cameras and sound :notworthy: So great to watch the race from that perspective.
I'm glad to see you had two clean and complete races Clive. That grid has some seriously expensive and powerful machines so, as others have said, don't beat yourself up about your results. It sounds like you learnt a lot about the car too, enabling you to plan next steps.
I'm glad to see you had two clean and complete races Clive. That grid has some seriously expensive and powerful machines so, as others have said, don't beat yourself up about your results. It sounds like you learnt a lot about the car too, enabling you to plan next steps.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 02:04:24 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 02:04:24 PM
Huge thanks for the support, it does help.
Whist I understood Pips reservations as the blades on the hot side can errode, I stripped the Turbo this morning and found its in excellent condition so it means it can know have some proper boost put through it.
Whist I understood Pips reservations as the blades on the hot side can errode, I stripped the Turbo this morning and found its in excellent condition so it means it can know have some proper boost put through it.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:50:05 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:50:05 PM
After watching the vid...
Few things..
Tyres...these guys running new slicks every race...only so many heat cycles they can take my mate has found the btcc slicks great but he says there always slightly different and junks a few and this is only for trackdays..
Those bmws at the start there tyres seem to switch on and they checked out..maybe worth having a looksee rekky what the guys are doing...new tyre labels etc.
Your within a second or 2 so task to get at pointy end defo doable.
Car looks sorted planted sounding great. Nailing them apexes.
Maybe tyres...i dunno.
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Few things..
Tyres...these guys running new slicks every race...only so many heat cycles they can take my mate has found the btcc slicks great but he says there always slightly different and junks a few and this is only for trackdays..
Those bmws at the start there tyres seem to switch on and they checked out..maybe worth having a looksee rekky what the guys are doing...new tyre labels etc.
Your within a second or 2 so task to get at pointy end defo doable.
Car looks sorted planted sounding great
. Nailing them apexes.Maybe tyres...i dunno.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:52:31 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:52:31 PM
Ohh a nice steering wheel...what is it?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 06:25:25 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 18, 2022, 03:52:31 PM
Ohh a nice steering wheel...what is it?
Thanks Jon.
I may shoot myself in the foot with this comment and it may come back to haunt me like Christeen does :)).
Happy enough with the handling and already running pretty good BTCC soft tyres which only really need 2 laps to be on it properly.
Tony Gillam who owns team Hard running over 30 cars in all sorts of formulas convinced me to run these, plus last a Goodyear Race tyre guy helped me sort out a tyre pressure guide.
I will say that I would not mind trying a pair of mediums up the outside though at Brands to see what they are like.
I say this because with the Xtremes I found there mediums a second a lap faster round Brands.
Now to shoot myself in the foot. I have seen a high 52 second lap at Brands and think with the set up I now have plus the tyres, plus proper power and the 4.4 back in , I think I can get well into the 51's which puts me right in the frame.
Coming back to tyres, your right about tyres and these guys.
My old mate Colin Voyce in the MK1 Castrol Escort, who I have raced against since we were kids, put it on the front row, then finished second which I was really pleased about for him, let Malcolm Harding in the MK2 Castrol Escort get to him overnight, because he wound him up by telling him, I'm bolting on a brand new set of tyres so I can beat you tomorrow! Sadly Colin who is a bag of nerves at the best of times let this get to him.
I had a chat to Colin Sunday morning to try and calm him down, but it didn't help :(
O' yes, Steering wheel,
Its a Momo donated kindly by Steve, however I am going to buy a suede wheel, because by the end of each race I was struggling to hang on to the leather wheel through Paddock Hill.
Fortunately I know the Momo UK brothers from hot rod days plus they race Thunder Saloons at times so I will get a deal :great:
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Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 06:42:03 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 06:42:03 PM
All positive.. its so great to watch.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2022, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: Prototype on April 18, 2022, 10:01:00 PM
I've seen exhaust flames but never one reach this high. Considering how low to the ground Clive's exhaust is I think that's impressive :)
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Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 10:13:53 PM
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2022, 10:13:53 PM
Its a flamecloud
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 10:48:58 PM
Post by: clive on April 18, 2022, 10:48:58 PM
Great Balls of Fire :))
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Post by: Prototype on April 19, 2022, 08:15:37 AM
Post by: Prototype on April 19, 2022, 08:15:37 AM
Race 2 in-car from Sunday
https://youtu.be/gV4_vSguGD8
https://youtu.be/gV4_vSguGD8
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 19, 2022, 03:54:17 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on April 19, 2022, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: Prototype on April 18, 2022, 10:01:00 PM
I've seen exhaust flames but never one reach this high. Considering how low to the ground Clive's exhaust is I think that's impressive :)
If you can't beat 'em, fry 'em! :))
No, seriously: soon the competition will all be back there, eating fireballs! Keep up the good work! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 20, 2022, 04:50:57 PM
Post by: clive on April 20, 2022, 04:50:57 PM
DHL Courier arrived today with 4 Bar of Boost to help the Race Car along. Thanks Chris Holmes you made me smile, just got to work out how to install them into the car now 🤣
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Post by: boosted on April 20, 2022, 07:29:30 PM
Post by: boosted on April 20, 2022, 07:29:30 PM
Thats funny and well thought out
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2022, 08:45:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 20, 2022, 08:45:38 PM
Hahaha brilliant !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2022, 05:40:51 AM
Post by: re japi on April 21, 2022, 05:40:51 AM
Quote from: clive on April 20, 2022, 04:50:57 PM
DHL Courier arrived today with 4 Bar of Boost to help the Race Car along. Thanks Chris Holmes you made me smile, just got to work out how to install them into the car now
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 22, 2022, 08:33:05 AM
Post by: clive on April 22, 2022, 08:33:05 AM
Under compression out of Paddock Hill, shows I cant go any lower static.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 24, 2022, 11:05:22 AM
Post by: clive on April 24, 2022, 11:05:22 AM
New Turbo arrived Friday.
Same Turbo but just with a different trim on the rear wheel which will give more low down and mid-range to get me off the corners faster.
With the new Link ECU it uncovered some issues that the Adaptronic couldn't!
The Link picked up that whist I was seeing water temperature ok at the Radiator @ 95 degrees, the Link was seeing 110 in the block. The ECU was now intelligent enough to think this would hurt the engine and pulled boost out and retarded the timing, meaning as the race went on the car got slower.
Turns out I had been pushing the water round the wrong way all these years, fortunately that's been an easy fix by just turning the Davis Craig water Pump the other way around
Intake temps need to come down 10 degrees so the air filter will be moved away from the intercooler and the bonnet opening altered to draw more air out from the back of the intercooler with a gurney flap added.
Big one though is that I have found where my horses have disappeared.
As you will see I ordered a new Turbo core with slightly different trim on the rear compressor wheel.
When I went to fit the new core yesterday, due to the slightly different blades it would not fit into the housing. Now its been uncovered that the housing had distorted and this meant that there was a gap stopping old core compressing the exhaust gasses correctly which explains why I lost all bottom and mid-range power !
New rear housing will be ordered tomorrow and then the car should finally see some good power all across the rev range.
Same Turbo but just with a different trim on the rear wheel which will give more low down and mid-range to get me off the corners faster.
With the new Link ECU it uncovered some issues that the Adaptronic couldn't!
The Link picked up that whist I was seeing water temperature ok at the Radiator @ 95 degrees, the Link was seeing 110 in the block. The ECU was now intelligent enough to think this would hurt the engine and pulled boost out and retarded the timing, meaning as the race went on the car got slower.
Turns out I had been pushing the water round the wrong way all these years, fortunately that's been an easy fix by just turning the Davis Craig water Pump the other way around
Intake temps need to come down 10 degrees so the air filter will be moved away from the intercooler and the bonnet opening altered to draw more air out from the back of the intercooler with a gurney flap added.
Big one though is that I have found where my horses have disappeared.
As you will see I ordered a new Turbo core with slightly different trim on the rear compressor wheel.
When I went to fit the new core yesterday, due to the slightly different blades it would not fit into the housing. Now its been uncovered that the housing had distorted and this meant that there was a gap stopping old core compressing the exhaust gasses correctly which explains why I lost all bottom and mid-range power !
New rear housing will be ordered tomorrow and then the car should finally see some good power all across the rev range.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2022, 11:28:30 AM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2022, 11:28:30 AM
Nice 1! You gonna put the water inj on too..... ? More cooler boost
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
You thought about an ic water sprayer for them hot days?
I fitted 1 on the 5. Less than 20quid. £9.99 ebay windscreen washer kit.
Pushbutton on steering wheel. Works a treat. Super easy to knock up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220424/635b1979ee5a8f9d02f9722c0e21258a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220424/c8aff70c4bd75c0fa8792279124b9780.jpg)
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I fitted 1 on the 5. Less than 20quid. £9.99 ebay windscreen washer kit.
Pushbutton on steering wheel. Works a treat. Super easy to knock up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220424/635b1979ee5a8f9d02f9722c0e21258a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220424/c8aff70c4bd75c0fa8792279124b9780.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on April 25, 2022, 03:28:54 PM
Post by: re japi on April 25, 2022, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: clive on April 24, 2022, 11:05:22 AMUmm...
New Turbo arrived Friday.
Same Turbo but just with a different trim on the rear wheel which will give more low down and mid-range to get me off the corners faster.
With the new Link ECU it uncovered some issues that the Adaptronic couldn't!
The Link picked up that whist I was seeing water temperature ok at the Radiator @ 95 degrees, the Link was seeing 110 in the block. The ECU was now intelligent enough to think this would hurt the engine and pulled boost out and retarded the timing, meaning as the race went on the car got slower.
Turns out I had been pushing the water round the wrong way all these years, fortunately that's been an easy fix by just turning the Davis Craig water Pump the other way around
Intake temps need to come down 10 degrees so the air filter will be moved away from the intercooler and the bonnet opening altered to draw more air out from the back of the intercooler with a gurney flap added.
Big one though is that I have found where my horses have disappeared.
As you will see I ordered a new Turbo core with slightly different trim on the rear compressor wheel.
When I went to fit the new core yesterday, due to the slightly different blades it would not fit into the housing. Now its been uncovered that the housing had distorted and this meant that there was a gap stopping old core compressing the exhaust gasses correctly which explains why I lost all bottom and mid-range power !
New rear housing will be ordered tomorrow and then the car should finally see some good power all across the rev range.
Do you have more water temp sensors now, than with Adaptronic?And you water went in wrong way im block?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 07:57:28 PM
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 07:57:28 PM
Thanks Jon, I'll keep that as a maybe.
Jarno, yes it monitors water temp and air intake and goes into protection mode if it detects something's wrong.
As you will see on the next post I need to get the intake temps down from 50 to 40 degrees so the air filter is now away from the Intercooler
Jarno, yes it monitors water temp and air intake and goes into protection mode if it detects something's wrong.
As you will see on the next post I need to get the intake temps down from 50 to 40 degrees so the air filter is now away from the Intercooler
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 08:26:56 PM
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 08:26:56 PM
Packaging on the RX-8 is difficult so to get proper cold air into the K+N air filter but I had to do something away from warm air from the intercooler.
Steve helped by chopping out some of the inner with with his Plasma cutter and yes Jim you was right it didn't fry the ECU :great:
As you will see I have cut out the back of the head lamp, but the real challenge was keeping a working main headlamp as per the regulation requirements !
Steve helped by chopping out some of the inner with with his Plasma cutter and yes Jim you was right it didn't fry the ECU :great:
As you will see I have cut out the back of the head lamp, but the real challenge was keeping a working main headlamp as per the regulation requirements !
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
Looking good. I'm sure our very own Mister Fibreglass could make you a Rx8 headlight air duct to ram in a little more air in too 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 08:55:54 PM
Post by: clive on April 25, 2022, 08:55:54 PM
Quote from: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
Looking good. I'm sure our very own Mister Fibreglass could make you a Rx8 headlight air duct to ram in a little more air in too
Thing is, the Thunder Saloon regs want a proper working headlamp, so I felt this was the best legal solution.
They even state you cant even tint the headlamps !
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Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2022, 08:59:34 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 25, 2022, 08:59:34 PM
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Ah cmon gimme a shot, my latest project can be my induction lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on April 25, 2022, 09:34:42 PM
Post by: Casey on April 25, 2022, 09:34:42 PM
I'm sure this is a stupid question, but wouldn't it have been easier to intake via a scoop on the bonnet somehow?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 11:19:52 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 25, 2022, 08:59:34 PMLmao(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/adcd5d8e9aa4be7b7d9a0b6c145777c1.jpg)
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Ah cmon gimme a shot, my latest project can be my induction lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 11:47:05 PM
Post by: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: clive on April 25, 2022, 08:55:54 PMAh thats a shame - although seeing Jamie's post that may be a blessingQuote from: MattScott on April 25, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
Looking good. I'm sure our very own Mister Fibreglass could make you a Rx8 headlight air duct to ram in a little more air in too
Thing is, the Thunder Saloon regs want a proper working headlamp, so I felt this was the best legal solution.
They even state you cant even tint the headlamps !
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: steve phillips on April 26, 2022, 11:21:04 AM
Post by: steve phillips on April 26, 2022, 11:21:04 AM
And here we see the skilled operative modifying his head lamps, being watched by the shop supervisor..... who doesn't look too impressed.....
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2022, 02:04:41 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2022, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 25, 2022, 09:34:42 PM
I'm sure this is a stupid question, but wouldn't it have been easier to intake via a scoop on the bonnet somehow?
No such thing as a stupid question ;)
I was desperate to stop any sort of under bonnet heat going into the air filter, so the head lamp solution will solve this.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on April 26, 2022, 02:06:04 PM
Post by: clive on April 26, 2022, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: steve phillips on April 26, 2022, 11:21:04 AM
And here we see the skilled operative modifying his head lamps, being watched by the shop supervisor..... who doesn't look too impressed.....
Monty was the only one who knew what he was doing ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 19, 2022, 09:50:51 PM
Post by: clive on May 19, 2022, 09:50:51 PM
We got there :13:
With the water system revamped, Air Filter relocated, plus new Turbo with a slightly different rear wheel so it spooled faster the result was wonderful :great:
We not only found 60 more BHP than ever, but also its the way it produces power so low down in the rev range.
Huge thanks to Steve for the Machining and Pip for the excellent mapping.
We now Have 510BHP with 353Lbs of Torque to light the rear wheels up >:D A Dyno video will appear over the next couple of days ;)
With the water system revamped, Air Filter relocated, plus new Turbo with a slightly different rear wheel so it spooled faster the result was wonderful :great:
We not only found 60 more BHP than ever, but also its the way it produces power so low down in the rev range.
Huge thanks to Steve for the Machining and Pip for the excellent mapping.
We now Have 510BHP with 353Lbs of Torque to light the rear wheels up >:D A Dyno video will appear over the next couple of days ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 19, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 19, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
Wow that's great news. I bet you can't wait to see how all that feels on the track!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 19, 2022, 10:30:31 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 19, 2022, 10:30:31 PM
Great news
Good power in the right place I guess
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Good power in the right place I guess
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2022, 10:49:02 PM
Post by: Casey on May 19, 2022, 10:49:02 PM
What a great result! Well done to everyone involved.
I'm really looking forward now to seeing how this extra power helps in the races to come.
I'm really looking forward now to seeing how this extra power helps in the races to come.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 21, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
Post by: boosted on May 21, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
Great result.
You ever got Christine weighed. Be great to know bhp per tonne.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 21, 2022, 10:17:55 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 21, 2022, 10:17:55 AM
60hp! You added a Ford Cortina! :))
Brilliant! :sign0098:
Brilliant! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on May 21, 2022, 08:03:38 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 21, 2022, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 21, 2022, 10:17:55 AMLollllll
60hp! You added a Ford Cortina! :))
Brilliant! :sign0098:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 21, 2022, 09:50:55 PM
Post by: clive on May 21, 2022, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 21, 2022, 10:17:55 AM
60hp! You added a Ford Cortina! :))
Brilliant! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 21, 2022, 09:53:16 PM
Post by: clive on May 21, 2022, 09:53:16 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 21, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
Great result.
You ever got Christine weighed. Be great to know bhp per tonne.
Weighed it last year at a huge 1150
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2022, 12:43:17 PM
Post by: boosted on May 23, 2022, 12:43:17 PM
Thats still over 400bhp per Tonne. Loosing any more weight now i think is very improbable and expensive..
I.e carbon seat etc.
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. Loosing any more weight now i think is very improbable and expensive..I.e carbon seat etc.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 12:04:36 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 12:04:36 PM
Whoops! Came across something interesting on YT: Well done! :great:
And Flaming Friday on a Monday, too. :))
And Flaming Friday on a Monday, too. :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 24, 2022, 10:15:27 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 24, 2022, 10:15:27 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on May 24, 2022, 12:04:36 PMSooo fast it's blown the driver's door off !
Whoops! Came across something interesting on YT: Well done! :great:
And Flaming Friday on a Monday, too. :))
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 25, 2022, 07:40:33 AM
Post by: clive on May 25, 2022, 07:40:33 AM
And the bonnet Matt ???
Not sure whats going to happen on friday as I have had to put a stock diff back in.
The crush tube on the pinion had crushed and put the pinion out of line leaving the pinion to waggle up and down.
Ode to self never ever try to change the diff ever again on the trailer!!!
Not sure whats going to happen on friday as I have had to put a stock diff back in.
The crush tube on the pinion had crushed and put the pinion out of line leaving the pinion to waggle up and down.
Ode to self never ever try to change the diff ever again on the trailer!!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Oulton Park
Post by: clive on May 25, 2022, 09:42:40 PM
Post by: clive on May 25, 2022, 09:42:40 PM
Back out on track this Saturday at Oulton Park 😀👍
Qualifying
10:15 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
Race 3
12:50 - 13:05 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
Race 9
16:40 - 16:55 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
All the details and live streaming of the races can be found via this link
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-oulton-park-2/
Qualifying
10:15 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
Race 3
12:50 - 13:05 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
Race 9
16:40 - 16:55 CTCRC - Thunder/Boss
All the details and live streaming of the races can be found via this link
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-oulton-park-2/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 26, 2022, 08:49:13 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 26, 2022, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: clive on May 25, 2022, 07:40:33 AMClive just for information
And the bonnet Matt ???
Not sure whats going to happen on friday as I have had to put a stock diff back in.
The crush tube on the pinion had crushed and put the pinion out of line leaving the pinion to waggle up and down.
Ode to self never ever try to change the diff ever again on the trailer!!!
Is the crush washer supposed to crush when you assemble the diff or not ?
Best of luck in oulton park
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 27, 2022, 05:13:59 AM
Post by: boosted on May 27, 2022, 05:13:59 AM
Good luck and have fun.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:25:36 PM
Post by: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:25:36 PM
Unfortunately after testing at Oulton Park today my car has developed a throttle fly by wire issue
I have decided for safety reason to pull out of tomorrows Oulton Park event because if the car cuts out again it could be a danger not only to my own car but also to other competitors cars.🥺
I have decided for safety reason to pull out of tomorrows Oulton Park event because if the car cuts out again it could be a danger not only to my own car but also to other competitors cars.🥺
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:45:03 PM
Post by: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:45:03 PM
Although I'm not racing, there will be another Mazda flying the Rotary flag in CTCRC in the shape of Mark Spence
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 28, 2022, 09:58:56 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 28, 2022, 09:58:56 AM
Quote from: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:25:36 PMWow another tough break but you'll be back stronger! Disappointing for sure but safely first
Unfortunately after testing at Oulton Park today my car has developed a throttle fly by wire issue
I have decided for safety reason to pull out of tomorrows Oulton Park event because if the car cuts out again it could be a danger not only to my own car but also to other competitors cars.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 28, 2022, 10:01:15 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 28, 2022, 10:01:15 AM
Quote from: clive on May 27, 2022, 11:45:03 PM
Although I'm not racing, there will be another Mazda flying the Rotary flag in CTCRC in the shape of Mark Spence
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on May 29, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Post by: boosted on May 29, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
It did. Super clean car.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on May 29, 2022, 11:07:21 AM
Post by: MattScott on May 29, 2022, 11:07:21 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 29, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
It did. Super clean car.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 04:50:20 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 04:50:20 PM
Any news on the car ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
Took the car up to Yorkshire for Jim to work his fault finding magician magic and hey presto he found the fault in minutes :)
We are using a mixture of a big Hemi electronic Throttle body in conjunction with the RX-8 pedal, which can't have ever been done before, problem was we could not find a plug to fit 100%, we found one that was almost identical with the correct pin outs and it did clip on OK,
"But" although I checked it to make sure the clip was still in place and tight it had obviously lost its integrity, which was why the ECU was showing intermittent error codes for 5V and 12V issues !
Jim's going to do away with the plug and connect the six wires direct then resin them in place so vibration etc can never be an issue.
While its with Jim he is going to fit the latest super dupa mod, a full blown Race Dash :great:
We are using a mixture of a big Hemi electronic Throttle body in conjunction with the RX-8 pedal, which can't have ever been done before, problem was we could not find a plug to fit 100%, we found one that was almost identical with the correct pin outs and it did clip on OK,
"But" although I checked it to make sure the clip was still in place and tight it had obviously lost its integrity, which was why the ECU was showing intermittent error codes for 5V and 12V issues !
Jim's going to do away with the plug and connect the six wires direct then resin them in place so vibration etc can never be an issue.
While its with Jim he is going to fit the latest super dupa mod, a full blown Race Dash :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 09:30:40 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 09:30:40 PM
Cool. Well done Jim...
Brands next in Aug 13th?
Im off for that weekend and pencil myself.
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Im off for that weekend and pencil myself.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on June 02, 2022, 10:05:21 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on June 02, 2022, 10:05:21 PM
I feel I got lucky (calculated) at least in finding the reason for the voltage drop out on the throttle body, but all sorted now, I am not sure but it feels like the throttle response is even crisper. Tomorrow's job finish all the wheel speed inputs and start on the dash.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 10:58:51 PM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on June 02, 2022, 10:05:21 PM
I feel I got lucky (calculated) at least in finding the reason for the voltage drop out on the throttle body, but all sorted now, I am not sure but it feels like the throttle response is even crisper. Tomorrow's job finish all the wheel speed inputs and start on the dash.
Crispy sounds good 8)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 11:01:46 PM
Post by: clive on June 02, 2022, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 02, 2022, 09:30:40 PM
Cool. Well done Jim...
Brands next in Aug 13th?
Im off for that weekend and pencil myself.
Yes Jon and they are letting us out for a rare outing on the Grand Prix circuit :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 11:04:30 PM
Post by: boosted on June 02, 2022, 11:04:30 PM
Ohh. Yep im there
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2022, 04:39:17 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2022, 04:39:17 PM
Wayne was racing today at Combe in his rx8. Put in a mighty impressive 1.17.4.
Fairplay.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:41:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on June 12, 2022, 04:41:43 PM
OOOOOOOO
thats good :13:
thats good :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
Post by: boosted on June 12, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
Opps wrong place...in the sun and no glasses..soz.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2022, 04:46:20 AM
Post by: re japi on June 13, 2022, 04:46:20 AM
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 05, 2022, 10:07:07 AM
Post by: clive on August 05, 2022, 10:07:07 AM
Out again at Brands tomorrow in the All Comers series
This is a mixture of Saloons then sports cars which essentially is two races in one with a 50/50 split across the grid.
Qualifying is at 10.20
First race is 12.50 then the second at 17.55!
This is a mixture of Saloons then sports cars which essentially is two races in one with a 50/50 split across the grid.
Qualifying is at 10.20
First race is 12.50 then the second at 17.55!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 05, 2022, 01:37:30 PM
Post by: boosted on August 05, 2022, 01:37:30 PM
Goodluck Clive, ill be following on TSL.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 05, 2022, 08:11:15 PM
Post by: clive on August 05, 2022, 08:11:15 PM
All ready to go, lets see what tomorrow brings
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2022, 12:45:36 PM
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2022, 12:45:36 PM
Logged in early to TSL and race already started some 10 mins early.. just caught commentary of Clive returning to pits after first lap..
No mention of why.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 06, 2022, 01:31:03 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 06, 2022, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 06, 2022, 12:45:36 PMOh dear. Christine not behaving this weekend?
Logged in early to TSL and race already started some 10 mins early.. just caught commentary of Clive returning to pits after first lap..
No mention of why.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2022, 06:32:33 PM
Post by: boosted on August 06, 2022, 06:32:33 PM
Didnt make it out for race 2.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 06, 2022, 10:10:13 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 06, 2022, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 06, 2022, 06:32:33 PMCaptain's having some tough breaks at the moment
Didnt make it out for race 2.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 07, 2022, 09:02:14 AM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2022, 09:02:14 AM
Another, Terrible day yesterday, even worse at this stage we have no idea what is wrong with the car.
Apart from the steering column coming loose in qualifying which made things interesting holding the wheel in position while trying to steer.
At least that was an easy fix.
During the 20 minute session the car was running faultlessly with more power than before low down which was getting the car off the corners better. Then with two laps to go the car started misfiring badly allowing only half revs.
The tank took 30 litres of fuel so we hoped that this was the issue, but first race showed the computer said NO!
Turns out the ECU is seeing an issue and is restricting the revs to just 5000
Jim, with Pip on the phone worked tirelessly between races to no avail because as soon as the car saw any load it dropped the revs again.
Big issue now is we have no idea what's causing the problem and if we can even make next Saturdays event :(
Apart from the steering column coming loose in qualifying which made things interesting holding the wheel in position while trying to steer.
At least that was an easy fix.
During the 20 minute session the car was running faultlessly with more power than before low down which was getting the car off the corners better. Then with two laps to go the car started misfiring badly allowing only half revs.
The tank took 30 litres of fuel so we hoped that this was the issue, but first race showed the computer said NO!
Turns out the ECU is seeing an issue and is restricting the revs to just 5000
Jim, with Pip on the phone worked tirelessly between races to no avail because as soon as the car saw any load it dropped the revs again.
Big issue now is we have no idea what's causing the problem and if we can even make next Saturdays event :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 07, 2022, 09:05:08 AM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 07, 2022, 09:05:08 AM
Sorry to hear about your troubles Clive. Hope you get it resolved soon. All the best 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
Ah you must be pulling your hair out and so disappointed. She shows such potential but i know that's posdibly a small consolation at the moment
the issue reveals itself and you can make some progress.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
Launch control enabled? My mates honda had this when a speed sensor on his gearbox was bad. Would rev clean but no more than 5k.
Just a thought?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 07, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 07, 2022, 11:50:05 AMWould be nice if it turned out to be something simple like that
Launch control enabled? My mates honda had this when a speed sensor on his gearbox was bad. Would rev clean but no more than 5k.
Just a thought?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 12:42:45 PM
Post by: boosted on August 07, 2022, 12:42:45 PM
Im just guessing tbh...
Gonnabe something sensor related/ setting and probably simple fix just gotta do head scratching fault diagnosis.... dyno time and hope fault replicates itself.
Onwards n upwards champ.
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Gonnabe something sensor related/ setting and probably simple fix just gotta do head scratching fault diagnosis.... dyno time and hope fault replicates itself.
Onwards n upwards champ.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on August 07, 2022, 01:24:44 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on August 07, 2022, 01:24:44 PM
Clive sorry to hear about this let's hope you can replicate the issue and it is a straightforward fix and we are able to meet up next weekend.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 07, 2022, 07:41:50 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 07, 2022, 07:41:50 PM
Sad news. Best of luck bringing the track weapon back to top form!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 09:04:31 AM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 09:04:31 AM
Cars now sitting up at Pips waiting to go on the Dyno this morning, fingers crossed ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 11:39:49 AM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 11:39:49 AM
We now have an operational car, now Pips found the offending banana !!.
It was a split pipe on the wastegate, Pip believes that the extra heat cooked the silicon that had only had a couple of races on it, failed potentially because of more laps than normal generating more heat.
What threw us was that the new ECU just saw an issue and cut the revs. Lost a race which was only really a test but after all it was being treated as a test day.
Would have needed to go back on the Dyno anyway as the map changed by compensating and putting more fuel in.
So two trips that add up to 850 miles for a banana :( :(
It was a split pipe on the wastegate, Pip believes that the extra heat cooked the silicon that had only had a couple of races on it, failed potentially because of more laps than normal generating more heat.
What threw us was that the new ECU just saw an issue and cut the revs. Lost a race which was only really a test but after all it was being treated as a test day.
Would have needed to go back on the Dyno anyway as the map changed by compensating and putting more fuel in.
So two trips that add up to 850 miles for a banana :( :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 08, 2022, 11:46:53 AM
Post by: MattScott on August 08, 2022, 11:46:53 AM
Well glad to hear it was something simple in the end. Disappointing but at least it's an easy fix 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 12:31:40 PM
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 12:31:40 PM
Well done Pip :notworthy:
A disappointing day for you on Saturday, but so pleased to see the cause has been found and can easily be fixed! It proved the worth of the "test day", as for this to have happened next weekend would have been far worse!
A disappointing day for you on Saturday, but so pleased to see the cause has been found and can easily be fixed! It proved the worth of the "test day", as for this to have happened next weekend would have been far worse!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 01:11:39 PM
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 01:11:39 PM
Clive, this was you in the qualifying session, midway between the exit from Druids and approaching Graham Hill bend. Every time you shifted gear at this point there was a large belch of black smoke. It looked much blacker in colour than I recall is usually the case. Coupled with the oily plug that Jim showed me, I wonder if it is a sign of anything, or a red herring?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 01:48:02 PM
Post by: Casey on August 08, 2022, 01:48:02 PM
A few pics of the first 2 laps of the first race, taken at Druids:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: DaveCollins on August 08, 2022, 02:38:49 PM
Post by: DaveCollins on August 08, 2022, 02:38:49 PM
Glad it was a simple fix. Look forward to seeing Lisa and yourself next Weekend.
Dave
Dave
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2022, 05:38:40 PM
Post by: boosted on August 08, 2022, 05:38:40 PM
White...coolant...blue...oil...black...fuel.
Fits with fault.
Do you need some zirotec coating?
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Fits with fault.
Do you need some zirotec coating?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 07:54:22 PM
Post by: clive on August 08, 2022, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 08, 2022, 05:38:40 PM
White...coolant...blue...oil...black...fuel.
Fits with fault.
Do you need some zirotec coating?
When the car started to overboost the ECU started dumping more fuel in to protect the engine, but then it really started to overboost it cut the revs to 5K
At the end of the day, yes its a pain what the ECU does, but the flip side is, I still have a healthy engine.
Jon was you coming along on Saturday?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 09, 2022, 04:11:06 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 09, 2022, 04:11:06 PM
That's great news it's fixed Clive , you must be very relieved
Can't wait to see the onboard on you shuffling that steering column around
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2022, 07:28:53 PM
Post by: boosted on August 09, 2022, 07:28:53 PM
Hi Clive ill give you a defo answer tomoz, work issues. Some big breakdown weve had ill no tomoz.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2022, 05:30:19 PM
Post by: boosted on August 10, 2022, 05:30:19 PM
Hi Clive, im working now. Got some issues at our factory. Few of us in extra over weekend.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 10, 2022, 08:06:48 PM
Post by: clive on August 10, 2022, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 10, 2022, 05:30:19 PM
Hi Clive, im working now.
Thanks for letting us know :(
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car - Time table and Live Streaming
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 03:51:29 PM
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 03:51:29 PM
There will be live streaming for tomorrows races at Brands Hatch for those who wish to watch
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXxGsjsQxFYBUjT4fmNChvw
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Qualifying 00:20 09:25 09:45
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Race 2 00:15 12:30 12:45
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Race 7 00:15 16:35 16:50
For those attending, don't forget to being lots of drink or even freeze them in the freezer overnight - it will be hot :great: out at Brands.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXxGsjsQxFYBUjT4fmNChvw
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Qualifying 00:20 09:25 09:45
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Race 2 00:15 12:30 12:45
Classic Touring Car Championship (Thunder/Boss/Pre-93/Pre-03/Pre-05) Race 7 00:15 16:35 16:50
For those attending, don't forget to being lots of drink or even freeze them in the freezer overnight - it will be hot :great: out at Brands.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 04:13:49 PM
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 04:13:49 PM
All ready to go . You cant miss us, we are right on the entrance of the old pits :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 12, 2022, 07:58:29 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 12, 2022, 07:58:29 PM
Good luck for tomorrow. Will have everything crossed for you to have a better weekend
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 09:24:06 PM
Post by: clive on August 12, 2022, 09:24:06 PM
Quote from: MattScott on August 12, 2022, 07:58:29 PM
Good luck for tomorrow. Will have everything crossed for you to have a better weekend
Thanks Matt :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 12, 2022, 11:00:33 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 12, 2022, 11:00:33 PM
Good luck Clive
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 09:04:34 AM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 09:04:34 AM
Goodluck and im praying for full days racing for you.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 12:47:18 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 12:47:18 PM
oh no, looks like Clive only got to do 2 laps in the first race 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 12:48:27 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 12:48:27 PM
Hope it's something which can be fixed in time for the last race
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 13, 2022, 01:11:19 PM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2022, 01:11:19 PM
Alternator belt went and took out the wiring for the water pump 🤬 have 4 hours to fix it🤞
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: clive on August 13, 2022, 01:11:19 PMAh man that's some luck you're having !
Alternator belt went and took out the wiring for the water pumphave 4 hours to fix it
Good luck !!
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 01:51:21 PM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 01:51:21 PM
Missed it but just looked on tsl.. thanks for posting.
Fingers x can sort.
....Dare i mention Christine...
Need to find some holy water and exorcise her again ..
You got this champ... dig deep.
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Fingers x can sort.
....Dare i mention Christine...
Need to find some holy water and exorcise her again ..
You got this champ... dig deep.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
All fixed, replacement water pump and new belt fitted in good time for 2nd race :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 13, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
Post by: therealbrad_wil on August 13, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: Casey on August 13, 2022, 02:33:03 PMWell done guys! Good luck
All fixed, replacement water pump and new belt fitted in good time for 2nd race :great:
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 03:30:17 PM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 03:30:17 PM
Yep. Welldone.. let rip now.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 03:55:09 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 03:55:09 PM
Now let's see her blaze around that sunny track 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2022, 04:54:40 PM
Post by: Casey on August 13, 2022, 04:54:40 PM
Clive about to drive up to assembly area for his 2nd race.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 05:41:17 PM
Post by: boosted on August 13, 2022, 05:41:17 PM
29th to 14th... in 12 mins.. thats pretty amazing.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: lennycarloff on August 13, 2022, 06:10:55 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on August 13, 2022, 06:10:55 PM
Nice work, I knew replacing the coolant with holy water would help. :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 06:41:39 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 13, 2022, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on August 13, 2022, 06:10:55 PMLol - who needs "evans" when you can have a higher power supporting your race car
Nice work, I knew replacing the coolant with holy water would help. :sign0098:
Epic drive Clive
Shame Brands only had one camera working today as would have liked to have seen more track action but to finish 14th must have felt good given the earlier issues. 
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 13, 2022, 09:08:52 PM
Post by: clive on August 13, 2022, 09:08:52 PM
Thanks for the comments and support, it is appreciated.
What is also appreciated is the work Jim Steve and Pip have put in to make all the mods to work together.
Having never driven the Grand Prix track before, it's a real shame about the first race, because had I had the first race to get to grips with the surprisingly technical GP section, I think I could have maybe pulled 3 seconds off my time just from getting more from where the braking points were for the car. The idea of that second race was to get a full run to the end and bring it home in one bit. Mission accomplished, finally, roll on Snetterton on the 17th/18th September.
What is also appreciated is the work Jim Steve and Pip have put in to make all the mods to work together.
Having never driven the Grand Prix track before, it's a real shame about the first race, because had I had the first race to get to grips with the surprisingly technical GP section, I think I could have maybe pulled 3 seconds off my time just from getting more from where the braking points were for the car. The idea of that second race was to get a full run to the end and bring it home in one bit. Mission accomplished, finally, roll on Snetterton on the 17th/18th September.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2022, 08:32:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on August 14, 2022, 08:32:10 AM
Good results Clive. Glad you tamed her in the end
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 16, 2022, 08:30:48 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 16, 2022, 08:30:48 AM
Great drive, Clive! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 16, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
Post by: clive on August 16, 2022, 11:47:35 AM
Here's the video from Race 2. Not knowing the GP part of the track I was real careful with the Jags that had a surprising amount of grunt, also being conscious they were having their own race. Thanks go as always to Philip for the video production.
https://youtu.be/80V45rcvG4Y
https://youtu.be/80V45rcvG4Y
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on August 16, 2022, 02:27:20 PM
Post by: Casey on August 16, 2022, 02:27:20 PM
So pleased the last race went so well. Only 12 minutes and plenty of overtaking practice!
Some stills from the day:
Some stills from the day:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 18, 2022, 09:37:11 AM
Post by: clive on August 18, 2022, 09:37:11 AM
First time out onto the Grand Prix Track ever :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on August 18, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Post by: MattScott on August 18, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Some great shots there
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 21, 2022, 11:58:02 AM
Post by: clive on August 21, 2022, 11:58:02 AM
I have said many times about the Yellow (and Blue) thing came from when I worked at Blue Circle
Nice surprise for me was finding this fully restored Foden that's attending classis car shows the same as I used to work on.
My boss used to order in Yellow and Blue enamel paint from the main coachworks at Beddington for me also I was allowed to keep and work on my cars in the workshop and sometimes I actually did some real work ;)
Nice surprise for me was finding this fully restored Foden that's attending classis car shows the same as I used to work on.
My boss used to order in Yellow and Blue enamel paint from the main coachworks at Beddington for me also I was allowed to keep and work on my cars in the workshop and sometimes I actually did some real work ;)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 21, 2022, 12:00:02 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on August 21, 2022, 12:00:02 PM
Very nice! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 28, 2022, 03:19:06 PM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2022, 03:19:06 PM
Work on the Race Car never stops!
Many thanks to Dave Collins for donating a proper piece of intake hose after the B+Q Alloy ducting hose failed miserably at Brands ! (The silver one below)
Brakes were next on the list after the pads were still wearing at an angle and because the pistons were uneven the brakes were dragging, which would have been slowing me down.
Decided to referb a spare set of callipers and renew the calliper brackets, especially after finding a cracked one!.
Sods law and the first time they have ever made an error, Racingbrake sent the wrong brackets!!
Steve wanted to make a new set as he didn't want me racing with a cracked bracket, but to be fair to Racingbrake they dispatched the correct ones immediately that they found out and they will be in from America on Tuesday.
Next up was a really really lucky escape that could have meant the end of the car with fire ???
I decided to fit some better heat shielding sleeve on the Turbo drain pipe.
Not sure if it was the extra heat of Brands but up near the Turbo, the silicon had deteriorated and gone to a white powder.
Had this failed and dumped oil, the car would have caught alright in a big big way >:D So so Lucky with this one :great:
Next Race is September 17/18 Snetterton (Truck Meeting)
Then October 22/23 Donington
Many thanks to Dave Collins for donating a proper piece of intake hose after the B+Q Alloy ducting hose failed miserably at Brands ! (The silver one below)
Brakes were next on the list after the pads were still wearing at an angle and because the pistons were uneven the brakes were dragging, which would have been slowing me down.
Decided to referb a spare set of callipers and renew the calliper brackets, especially after finding a cracked one!.
Sods law and the first time they have ever made an error, Racingbrake sent the wrong brackets!!
Steve wanted to make a new set as he didn't want me racing with a cracked bracket, but to be fair to Racingbrake they dispatched the correct ones immediately that they found out and they will be in from America on Tuesday.
Next up was a really really lucky escape that could have meant the end of the car with fire ???
I decided to fit some better heat shielding sleeve on the Turbo drain pipe.
Not sure if it was the extra heat of Brands but up near the Turbo, the silicon had deteriorated and gone to a white powder.
Had this failed and dumped oil, the car would have caught alright in a big big way >:D So so Lucky with this one :great:
Next Race is September 17/18 Snetterton (Truck Meeting)
Then October 22/23 Donington
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2022, 05:00:41 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2022, 05:00:41 PM
Lucky to have found that deteriorated pipe Clive
That's a stroke of luck
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on August 28, 2022, 09:11:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 28, 2022, 09:11:56 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 28, 2022, 05:00:41 PM
Lucky to have found that deteriorated pipe Clive
That's a stroke of luck
Yep Fire was the last thing I would have needed.
Been there done that one!,
Its how the car got the nickname "Christine", named after the fiery horror film when it tried to burn itself alive at Silverstone a few years back
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 07, 2022, 07:48:11 PM
Post by: clive on September 07, 2022, 07:48:11 PM
Next weekends time table is out :great:
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-snetterton-300-3/
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-snetterton-300-3/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on September 07, 2022, 08:42:45 PM
Post by: MattScott on September 07, 2022, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: clive on September 07, 2022, 07:48:11 PMHere's hoping you get to enjoy all of the track time with no unwelcome intruption
Next weekends time table is out :great:
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-snetterton-300-3/
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Post by: clive on September 08, 2022, 10:39:36 AM
Thank Matt, appreciated.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 14, 2022, 05:55:53 PM
Post by: clive on September 14, 2022, 05:55:53 PM
Final Time Table just arrived.
I see we are out with Clarksons Jaaaaaaaaag's again ;)
Saturday
09:45 - 10:00 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Qualifying
12:35 - 13:10 00:35 Lunch break (2 Minute Silence - 12:50pm)
13:10 - 13:25 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Race No. 3
Sunday,
09:45 - 10:00 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Race No. 12
Live on You tube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZf3wEugCbSW3GX9HvjPmRQ
Event Information, here.
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-snetterton-300-3/
I see we are out with Clarksons Jaaaaaaaaag's again ;)
Saturday
09:45 - 10:00 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Qualifying
12:35 - 13:10 00:35 Lunch break (2 Minute Silence - 12:50pm)
13:10 - 13:25 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Race No. 3
Sunday,
09:45 - 10:00 00:15 Classic Touring Car Racing Club: Thunder / BOSS / Jaguars Race No. 12
Live on You tube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZf3wEugCbSW3GX9HvjPmRQ
Event Information, here.
https://www.barc.net/event/barc-race-meeting-snetterton-300-3/
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 05:22:08 AM
Post by: boosted on September 17, 2022, 05:22:08 AM
Goodluck.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 01:31:27 PM
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 01:31:27 PM
Race about to start, Clive is 23rd on grid of 45 I think.
Watching live now!!
Watching live now!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 02:07:27 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 02:07:27 PM
Top 20 overall and 4th in class. Progress! :sign0098:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on September 17, 2022, 02:11:55 PM
Post by: MattScott on September 17, 2022, 02:11:55 PM
Great to see a strong finish again. Blood, sweat and tears paying off
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2022, 05:32:15 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2022, 05:32:15 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 02:07:27 PM
Top 20 overall and 4th in class. Progress! :sign0098:
Thanks for your comments, Just 5 laps, 2 spins (one due to old tyres/ One due to oil on the track with 14 cars spinning)
18th position finish with 31 finishers, found 3 seconds in the race over qualifying .
But to me the car has no pace against the cars at the sharp end, so I have taken the decision not to race tomorrow and retire the car for the season.
Whilst my engine is perfect, I am going to sell the engine and invest it into a new engine to get more power as 510 BHP is simply not enough compared to the competition I am up against!.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
Hmmm. Is the answer three characters? 20B?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 17, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
Quote from: Eccentric shaft on September 17, 2022, 08:39:26 PM
Hmmm. Is the answer three characters? 20B?
Don't know yet, but there is another reason.
Unfortunately due to a violent spin after a car dropped oil, in total 14 cars spun through Coram!. It has aggravated an old shoulder and torn tendon, which funnily enough happened at Snetterton years ago. This means I have to withdraw from racing for the rest of the year to let it try and heal, but I will be back next year .
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on September 17, 2022, 09:36:25 PM
Post by: MattScott on September 17, 2022, 09:36:25 PM
Wow your season has been a roller coaster! Hope with rest your injury can become a distant memory.
Shows the quality of the field you're racing in if 510 horses aren't cutting it! Onwards and upwards..... look forward to following Christine's next set of upgrades
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Shows the quality of the field you're racing in if 510 horses aren't cutting it! Onwards and upwards..... look forward to following Christine's next set of upgrades
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 11:03:08 PM
Post by: Casey on September 17, 2022, 11:03:08 PM
I managed to watch your race live and saw the carnage at Coram as car after car span on the oil before the red flag came out. Really sorry to hear the incident has aggravated an old injury. I hope it heals with time.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2022, 01:28:34 AM
Post by: boosted on September 18, 2022, 01:28:34 AM
What Casey said.. hope you mend quick.
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 18, 2022, 09:57:53 AM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 18, 2022, 09:57:53 AM
Shoulder injuries are bad news (an ex sports climber will know). Take care and get well soon!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 22, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Post by: clive on September 22, 2022, 08:52:08 AM
Some will have seen this already on FB.
#Mazda #13b REW 510BHP Race Engine for sale. (Will also drive perfect in a Road Car)
Pro Built Engine Winner of many Races and Three Championships.
Special Large Street Ported Engine Mapped by the legendary Pip Gardner that with the correct Turbo drives like an N/A engine.
Recent refresh with new Mazda #13brew Rotor Housings and Goopy Apex seals fitted. Special Anti Surge Sump. #racingbeat Alloy Flywheel.
Last Raced 17th September 2022 with no issues.
Can be supplied as a bare block, or with the rare 13B Cosmo Intake with special fuel rail assembly, almost new Custom Borg Warner Turbo and Link ECU with the Map to operate the engine. Can ship anywhere in the world.
For more details contact sales@racingbeateurope.com P.O.A.
See link below for last Dyno session
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-aAJObLibM
13B.JPG Sale due to new engine being built for next season.
#Mazda #13b REW 510BHP Race Engine for sale. (Will also drive perfect in a Road Car)
Pro Built Engine Winner of many Races and Three Championships.
Special Large Street Ported Engine Mapped by the legendary Pip Gardner that with the correct Turbo drives like an N/A engine.
Recent refresh with new Mazda #13brew Rotor Housings and Goopy Apex seals fitted. Special Anti Surge Sump. #racingbeat Alloy Flywheel.
Last Raced 17th September 2022 with no issues.
Can be supplied as a bare block, or with the rare 13B Cosmo Intake with special fuel rail assembly, almost new Custom Borg Warner Turbo and Link ECU with the Map to operate the engine. Can ship anywhere in the world.
For more details contact sales@racingbeateurope.com P.O.A.
See link below for last Dyno session
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-aAJObLibM
13B.JPG Sale due to new engine being built for next season.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 23, 2022, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: clive on September 23, 2022, 03:53:00 PM
Mazda RX8 Races Sierra Cosworth that gives no room! - Snetterton 17th September 2022
https://youtu.be/1JuPnMSXcPI
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2022, 10:16:19 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2022, 10:16:19 AM
Clive
Probably an unpopular question
How much more power do you think will get you closer up the table ?
I'm looking at the lap times between our cars which is quite a bit , there's also a huge power difference
Personally I think some strong money spent on aero , air displacement etc first then combine with more power later ?
I'm no aero expert but that seems to be where most are getting their time from upfront ?
I suppose until
We know your plans we can all have our ideas to help you
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Probably an unpopular question
How much more power do you think will get you closer up the table ?
I'm looking at the lap times between our cars which is quite a bit , there's also a huge power difference
Personally I think some strong money spent on aero , air displacement etc first then combine with more power later ?
I'm no aero expert but that seems to be where most are getting their time from upfront ?
I suppose until
We know your plans we can all have our ideas to help you
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2022, 12:24:33 PM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2022, 12:24:33 PM
We know there's 50-70 bhp left in this engine but I need to think outside the box to compete with the torque of 800bhp Holdens, plus the BMW V10' V8's to be at the sharp end and not buried in the pack.
Although there are plans to improve the rear aero for next year, we are pretty much there front and middle.
Although there are plans to improve the rear aero for next year, we are pretty much there front and middle.
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 24, 2022, 05:45:07 PM
Post by: clive on September 24, 2022, 05:45:07 PM
Engines now provisionally sold
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 24, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: clive on September 24, 2022, 05:45:07 PMEngines now provisionally soldGreat news
I was scared to ask the price
Good luck with the next venture
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 26, 2022, 09:59:05 AM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2022, 09:59:05 AM
This picture graphically describes why I need to do something drastic.
Picture is from 2020 and only the Capri was faster than me .
Now, I am running around at the same pace and the many cars in this picture are now way faster than me due to their development.
Whist I used to beat the grey Escort, this year it was 2nd on the grid, some 9 seconds faster than me !!!
Picture is from 2020 and only the Capri was faster than me .
Now, I am running around at the same pace and the many cars in this picture are now way faster than me due to their development.
Whist I used to beat the grey Escort, this year it was 2nd on the grid, some 9 seconds faster than me !!!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 26, 2022, 06:02:31 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 26, 2022, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: clive on September 26, 2022, 09:59:05 AMThis picture graphically describes why I need to do something drastic.Makes sense Clive if you have the budget
Picture is from 2020 and only the Capri was faster than me .
Now, I am running around at the same pace and the many cars in this picture are now way faster than me due to their development.
Whist I used to beat the grey Escort, this year it was 2nd on the grid, some 9 seconds faster than me !!!
Look forward to hearing your plans
On analysts
Is it just your losing out in the straights ?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on September 26, 2022, 08:03:02 PM
Post by: clive on September 26, 2022, 08:03:02 PM
Yes, I am losing out through lack of grunt (torque) off the corners compared to what I am up against.
Don't get me wrong the mods have worked and its fast and would be OK on say the Brands Indy where its all corners, but I am now looking at a big jump to be competitive on all the tracks and "maybe" go after a title place next year funds permitting if all goes to plan . (I did say maybe)
Got to have goals or I may as well pack it in ::)
Don't get me wrong the mods have worked and its fast and would be OK on say the Brands Indy where its all corners, but I am now looking at a big jump to be competitive on all the tracks and "maybe" go after a title place next year funds permitting if all goes to plan . (I did say maybe)
Got to have goals or I may as well pack it in ::)
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2022, 06:30:38 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2022, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: clive on September 26, 2022, 08:03:02 PMYes, I am losing out through lack of grunt (torque) off the corners compared to what I am up against.Enjoyment is what you always say Clive
Don't get me wrong the mods have worked and its fast and would be OK on say the Brands Indy where its all corners, but I am now looking at a big jump to be competitive on all the tracks and "maybe" go after a title place next year funds permitting if all goes to plan . (I did say maybe)
Got to have goals or I may as well pack it in ::)
If it's torque like power your after
I wouldn't have a clue
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 27, 2022, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on September 27, 2022, 07:43:00 PM
26B?
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 28, 2022, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 28, 2022, 09:37:00 AM
3 rotor turbo with a sequential gearbox is my guess
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: qwakers on September 30, 2022, 09:39:06 PM
Post by: qwakers on September 30, 2022, 09:39:06 PM
annnd 5 days later ive finally finished reading this :D :sign0085:
im really looking forward to starting my version of this build with your research and development helping me avoid all the pitfalls :D
in the mean time, i also look forward to seeing your next step :D
im really looking forward to starting my version of this build with your research and development helping me avoid all the pitfalls :D
in the mean time, i also look forward to seeing your next step :D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 01, 2022, 12:14:09 AM
Post by: Casey on October 01, 2022, 12:14:09 AM
Welcome to the MRC James :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2022, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2022, 11:38:42 AM
And so it begins >:D
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2022, 12:02:17 PM
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2022, 12:02:17 PM
Ooooh, so empty in there. Exciting times!
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on October 02, 2022, 01:22:09 PM
Post by: clive on October 02, 2022, 01:22:09 PM
Just negotiating for the first part of the puzzle
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 02, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
Dry sumped triple....
I won't even ask the ££
Lol
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: MattScott on November 14, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
Post by: MattScott on November 14, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
Delivery for Clive (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221114/3946a1439a83541f7c3dc28f61b799bd.jpg)
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: qwakers on November 14, 2022, 06:15:51 PM
Post by: qwakers on November 14, 2022, 06:15:51 PM
no thats for me :D :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on November 14, 2022, 07:04:44 PM
Post by: Casey on November 14, 2022, 07:04:44 PM
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 09:00:16 AM
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 09:00:16 AM
Quote from: qwakers on September 30, 2022, 09:39:06 PMannnd 5 days later ive finally finished reading this :D :sign0085:
im really looking forward to starting my version of this build with your research and development helping me avoid all the pitfalls :D
in the mean time, i also look forward to seeing your next step :D
After a awful lot of time, rather too much money and a week at pips place, I now have a running driving car.
https://youtu.be/hrtyMgf73Fc
More work to do but I'm very happy :love4:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 10, 2023, 01:02:02 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on March 10, 2023, 01:02:02 PM
Congrats! Sounds fab! :great:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2023, 03:20:35 PM
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2023, 03:20:35 PM
Well done mate. Proper power now then, any numbers for us?
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Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 04:08:07 PM
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 04:08:07 PM
It's not finally mapped yet and I've asked pip to lower the redline so it's in the 450 range
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: clive on March 10, 2023, 04:57:30 PM
Post by: clive on March 10, 2023, 04:57:30 PM
Well done James you have a car thats alive :great: ,
Pip told me how it all panned out, your really getting there now :13:
Pip told me how it all panned out, your really getting there now :13:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
Post by: qwakers on March 10, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
thanks clive ;D it was a bit of a mission. :sign0085:
Title: Re: Clive's 400 BHP Super GT RX-8 Race Car
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2023, 08:59:09 AM
Post by: Casey on March 11, 2023, 08:59:09 AM
Well done James, great job :notworthy: