Title: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Sooooo....... I just bought this off copart(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/88f0761788acf637dca78c3c767d64ff.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/07eb218549db9f372681d2056ed74e41.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/5ef2737bc44abb93249bb2d0cb4fdd0d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/83a171b1e74510714482524536a387cc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/dc5f1bb8b02430e58a1a8df40a631905.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/dfe05ffef18b4ea460366f331c064877.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/0c06e4ac277e3f12bc93db376480ee9c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/42baad2ec5784c523c4fd84c2d80f2c3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/d243089dd715c81534dae7f1b00f27c3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/860a17ef027c95965d44989ec94945fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/d97d2af5cbe377d882a3e8ada878e3e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/4d3c90aac764c16156f0d0631af333c1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/32382fa3b3b54f463d7bc1cbcf9e290e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/5b05f612778fe2376f8ad6a36266bfc0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/4d0a496ffc50a9521ebb65efc5416838.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/0b6703d3912a5ca959abe6a1f0f87774.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190830/dcf33afccd72da832d9cc2bb1f2fa2eb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
Hi Grant, yes im in Westbury..mthis come from there?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 09:56:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 30, 2019, 08:42:59 PMYes! Iv to figure how to pay for it yet though! Lol
Hi Grant, yes im in Westbury..mthis come from there?
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404 quid to get it delivered to my house which is bummer.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 30, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
It apparently had a problem where the engine cuts out, might fix that problem before I yank the engine so I can sell it straight on, including gear box etc
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 10:06:22 PM
Post by: boosted on August 30, 2019, 10:06:22 PM
How many miles?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on August 30, 2019, 10:25:56 PM
Post by: clive on August 30, 2019, 10:25:56 PM
Good to see you back Grant :great:,
I'm sure you will know that as it shares the same floor pan as the RX-8 the RX-8 subframe with engine bolts straight up under it.
The NC was actually very nearly a Rotary, indeed I remember the day someone from Mazda HQ rang me to say Mazda had gone with the piston option :(.
I know Mazda Europe (Germany) had a few of the Rotary version NC's out the for evaluation purposes at the time.
I'm sure you will know that as it shares the same floor pan as the RX-8 the RX-8 subframe with engine bolts straight up under it.
The NC was actually very nearly a Rotary, indeed I remember the day someone from Mazda HQ rang me to say Mazda had gone with the piston option :(.
I know Mazda Europe (Germany) had a few of the Rotary version NC's out the for evaluation purposes at the time.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2019, 08:06:17 AM
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2019, 08:06:17 AM
Put turbo Renny on it mate! :13:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: re japi on August 31, 2019, 08:06:17 AMI have a better engine
Put turbo Renny on it mate! :13:
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:52:47 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 30, 2019, 10:06:22 PMI was working down there a few weeks ago too
How many miles?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:54:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 08:54:49 AM
Quote from: clive on August 30, 2019, 10:25:56 PMI'm going to get an rx8 subframe, there used to be loads on ebay but I coukdnt find any on there last week
Good to see you back Grant :great:,
I'm sure you will know that as it shares the same floor pan as the RX-8 the RX-8 subframe with engine bolts straight up under it.
The NC was actually very nearly a Rotary, indeed I remember the day someone from Mazda HQ rang me to say Mazda had gone with the piston option :(.
I know Mazda Europe (Germany) had a few of the Rotary version NC's out the for evaluation purposes at the time.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:23:34 AM
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:23:34 AM
Thats price for delivery not bad i got quoted the same for half the mileage.
You were working down here? You couldve popped in for a brew, finallly met in person.
So mx5 nc 13b turbo...very cool.
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You were working down here? You couldve popped in for a brew, finallly met in person.
So mx5 nc 13b turbo...very cool.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 09:53:41 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:23:34 AMCan't remember the exact place but it was in that area for sure, I was only there for the night working in a Sainsbury's then drive home.
Thats price for delivery not bad i got quoted the same for half the mileage.
You were working down here? You couldve popped in for a brew, finallly met in person.
So mx5 nc 13b turbo...very cool.
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I'm going to ring them up Monday and organise delivery etc
Going to order some of this car caster things so I can push it around easier in the garage to make room for all my other crap.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:56:41 AM
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:56:41 AM
Yep get it paid monday and delivery..copart have some cheeky late fees to catch you out.
Did you buy it now or win in the auction.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:03:06 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:03:06 AM
Got a few things to figure out like, how to swap the fd front cover on my engine over to an fc one so I can just bolt up my fc oil pan instead of making one etc.
Getting the engine and gear box mounted will be the easy part especially if the rx8 subframe helps fit the engine better.
Possibly thinking of getting most of the work done myself and then send it off to get it running, iv got my haltech ecu which is old but still better than an apexi however I might get one of the new haltech as they have so many safety's in them and DBW
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Getting the engine and gear box mounted will be the easy part especially if the rx8 subframe helps fit the engine better.
Possibly thinking of getting most of the work done myself and then send it off to get it running, iv got my haltech ecu which is old but still better than an apexi however I might get one of the new haltech as they have so many safety's in them and DBW
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:01:02 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: boosted on August 31, 2019, 09:56:41 AMI won the auction, yeh you have to pay within 3 days, but seeing as I won it Friday and you can't ring them over the weekend they're going to have to be lenient as only gave me a couple of hours to respond as had to wait for the owner to accept my offer, they wanted 950 for it but I stuck with 725, which is a bargain. Especially if I can fix the engine easily enough
Yep get it paid monday and delivery..copart have some cheeky late fees to catch you out.
Did you buy it now or win in the auction.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 11:06:23 AM
Post by: boosted on August 31, 2019, 11:06:23 AM
Pay for it monday then no extra fees...you should have an invoice in your account.
Othe option is hire a flatbed truck for a day an pick up yourself....thats how i picked up Westy from North wales...bought £80 hire and £60 in derv..gotta take a day off but saves some pennys.
If need be i can pick up for you and store here if you wanna go that route...or drive it home....breakdown and get recovered home free...done that too with clio i bought in Bristol...lol
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Othe option is hire a flatbed truck for a day an pick up yourself....thats how i picked up Westy from North wales...bought £80 hire and £60 in derv..gotta take a day off but saves some pennys.
If need be i can pick up for you and store here if you wanna go that route...or drive it home....breakdown and get recovered home free...done that too with clio i bought in Bristol...lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:18:30 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:18:30 AM
Yeh a day of work costs me 280 quid
plus rental etc I will pay for it being delivered, but of a sting but I'm sure I can get that money back from sale of the engine and gear box maybe, plus the interior which will come out eventually
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
Thanks for offering to help though, much appreciated.
Just been chatting with my to lay out how I'm doing things.
Get car running good first and then get any extra stuff I need before engine swap etc as I need a few bits still
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Just been chatting with my to lay out how I'm doing things.
Get car running good first and then get any extra stuff I need before engine swap etc as I need a few bits still
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2019, 07:53:32 PM
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2019, 07:53:32 PM
Wait, what? How much did that car cost?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:01:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: re japi on August 31, 2019, 07:53:32 PMTotal cost, car, fees, and delivery it is going to be 1300.
Wait, what? How much did that car cost?
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Car I got for 725
Fees 180
Delivery 400
Would have been nice to be able to not have to pay for delivery but meh, it would only cost me the same in lost earnings etc so I'm not to bothered
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:01:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 31, 2019, 10:01:35 PM
Just been looking at eibacj lowering springs.... So damn cheap
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 01, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Post by: re japi on September 01, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Thats quite cheap I think...
True, usually delivery cost less than you losses from day off work and petrol would cost
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2019, 09:26:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 02, 2019, 09:26:26 PM
Car paid for. Awaiting delivery
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 03:58:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 03:58:29 PM
Engine runs, engine cuts out, engine shake and has bad metal grinding soundshttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5d71228bd3b50/VID_20190905_152353.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5d71228bd3b50/VID_20190905_152353.mp4)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Erm sounds like a diesel.....
That’s not healthy. I take it you knew of this issue ? :'(
That’s not healthy. I take it you knew of this issue ? :'(
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
Copart...engine runs.
Mechanic...only when the starter motor is spinning .
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Mechanic...only when the starter motor is spinning .
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 04:53:20 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 04:53:20 PM
Doesnt sound too healthy..pull the plugs....oil on em? Burnt all its oil ..bearing wear?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 05:04:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 05, 2019, 04:49:01 PMI was expecting it to be knackered, it just needed to run to squeeze onto my garage and it did lol
Erm sounds like a diesel.....
That’s not healthy. I take it you knew of this issue ? :'(
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 05:08:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 05:08:10 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 05, 2019, 04:53:20 PMThrown it in garage and closed door, just fits because iv got worktop in there, going to have adjust storage space so there's more room
Doesnt sound too healthy..pull the plugs....oil on em? Burnt all its oil ..bearing wear?
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Anyone need any mx5 stock bits hit me up, everything cheap lol
1 used engine runs OK 200 quid
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 05:09:13 PM
Post by: boosted on September 05, 2019, 05:09:13 PM
All the sensors throttle bodys etc...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 05, 2019, 08:33:59 PM
Post by: clive on September 05, 2019, 08:33:59 PM
Sadly these things do knock out crank bearings fairly often.
Carl has one for sale doing exactly that as well.
Carl has one for sale doing exactly that as well.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 08:37:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 05, 2019, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: clive on September 05, 2019, 08:33:59 PMYeh, not bothered though. It's the wrong kind of engine. Going to out a proper motor in it
Sadly these things do knock out crank bearings fairly often.
Carl has one for sale doing exactly that as well.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 12:36:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 12:36:50 PM
10 points to anyone that can spot what's wrong with this dipstick (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190906/e7c0c45cad47c1041a358f9e8978f5e4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 04:07:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 04:07:28 PM
Going to lift the shelving up so there's a lot more room in my garage. Plenty of room in the to engine swap though. Car can go back another 28 inch(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190906/dca7a68362d6260b52cb692bd7187100.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2019, 07:15:10 PM
Wow, your garage is even smaller than mine. 
Actually, I though every garage in UK is small before I saw Jons garage 
Good luck with your project, looking forward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 07:46:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 06, 2019, 07:15:10 PMThey were made when cars we smaller. Mine was made in the 60s.if I get any spare cash I would build a bigger one
Wow, your garage is even smaller than mine.
Good luck with your project, looking forward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2019, 07:55:36 PM
Post by: re japi on September 06, 2019, 07:55:36 PM
Yeah, me too, I need more space for cars
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2019, 08:22:34 PM
Post by: boosted on September 06, 2019, 08:22:34 PM
Yep good luck Grant..nice to have you back buddy.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 06, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
Going to have a day at it soon, should get the engine and everything out in a day.
HVent got an engine hoist any more but, going to strip the engine down into parts so I can just lift everything out
Front end is being made removable straight away too so I can get into the engine bay so don't have to lean over the front of the car and ruin my back
Might get a few hours tomorrow to move most of the work top up.
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HVent got an engine hoist any more but, going to strip the engine down into parts so I can just lift everything out
Front end is being made removable straight away too so I can get into the engine bay so don't have to lean over the front of the car and ruin my back
Might get a few hours tomorrow to move most of the work top up.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 08, 2019, 07:25:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 08, 2019, 07:25:20 PM
Picked up some pistons today from santa pod to rebuild the mx5 motor(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/3c80240c8f5995678c3ed2877c1ea632.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/3f544e89497432e5ac541c97082fb2da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/8d456a0e8e2c40aab1e25738e690bcdc.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Pulled a few bits off today and jacked the car up and onto some stands so I can get underneath to remove the front bumper
The plug in the fus box doesn't look too cracking! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190909/819f86fa5131d738fd98d0fef8861051.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190909/3bef59ea6bcad133817303e7c9f6b337.jpg)
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The plug in the fus box doesn't look too cracking! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190909/819f86fa5131d738fd98d0fef8861051.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190909/3bef59ea6bcad133817303e7c9f6b337.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 09, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: re japi on September 09, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
What happened to that thing 
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
Got an or so on it just now, got the under tray off, what a complete ball ache that can be. Far too many plastic screws etc, this might go back on but I don't know. Seems kind of pou tless but does help the air pass through the radiator etc but I will most likely be using something different than the stock one. Might keep the fans though as factory ones are better
Removed the front bumper, literally held in with 6 screws. 4 of them semi awkward because of my garage but they weren't even tight so got them of with my fingers
Removed the front bumper bar/impact structure. This will not be going back on.
Now I can see where and what I can cut so that I can make the front part of the engine bay structure removable.
Second to last image is how much space I have gained for intercooler placing options (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/8ba3b8c5db0dd7fdcbed063e7910c177.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/a49b039b7ef8d77741e78125482fd536.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/8de645893f0ed641ec5b2c9e8a529741.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/0a73424f3fdf31a3e66a6f26a7609ca1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/ce0c78a5ae059e4a51a4f5e33896d3fc.jpg)
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Removed the front bumper, literally held in with 6 screws. 4 of them semi awkward because of my garage but they weren't even tight so got them of with my fingers
Removed the front bumper bar/impact structure. This will not be going back on.
Now I can see where and what I can cut so that I can make the front part of the engine bay structure removable.
Second to last image is how much space I have gained for intercooler placing options (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/8ba3b8c5db0dd7fdcbed063e7910c177.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/a49b039b7ef8d77741e78125482fd536.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/8de645893f0ed641ec5b2c9e8a529741.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/0a73424f3fdf31a3e66a6f26a7609ca1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/ce0c78a5ae059e4a51a4f5e33896d3fc.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 10, 2019, 03:59:31 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 10, 2019, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Pulled a few bits off today and jacked the car up and onto some stands so I can get underneath to remove the front bumper
The plug in the fus box doesn't look too cracking! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190909/3bef59ea6bcad133817303e7c9f6b337.jpg)
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My fuse box was the same
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2019, 04:10:11 PM
Post by: boosted on September 10, 2019, 04:10:11 PM
Hermitically sealing compound.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2019, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 10, 2019, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 10, 2019, 04:10:11 PMLooks awful, was slightly confused why the car all worked even with the plug looking like it had melted.
Hermitically sealing compound.
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I'm going stand alone ecu, stripping back the standard harness and re routing it so that all the car stuff still works, most likely put the ecu inside the car up out of the way.
Engine ecu needs to be separate so the car can't cause any issues.
Iv got a haltech e11v2, it's old but much better than an apexi ecu, ideally I'm going to get one of the new haltech as they're better for engine protection etc
As for getting an rx8 for bits I just don't have the room and I only want the bits necessary to get the car running
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 11, 2019, 02:27:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 11, 2019, 02:27:41 PM
Mist of the body harness is out now, need to get inside the car and disconnect what plugs are connected under the dash to get it all put. Most of it will be reused but routed through the car and mounted inside the car.
The stupid intake manifold just won't come off, need to get under the car with a torch and find the one screw iv obviously missed as it just won't pull out.
Snapped the thermostat housing off in the process, who cares its going in the bin
The throttle body may have been one of the issues the car had as it is a ll coked up and coated in oil.
Can't wait to get this stupid engine out and too the scrappers, it is actually massive, the rotary Is going to look perfect in there, lower and easier to work on.
Iv labelled nearly everything on the harness too so easy to cut out any unwanted stuff.
Engine harness is still on the engine, trying not to cut it as it might be useful for someone? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190911/cb76a85f2e91ad1634725be358bc92bf.jpg)
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The stupid intake manifold just won't come off, need to get under the car with a torch and find the one screw iv obviously missed as it just won't pull out.
Snapped the thermostat housing off in the process, who cares its going in the bin
The throttle body may have been one of the issues the car had as it is a ll coked up and coated in oil.
Can't wait to get this stupid engine out and too the scrappers, it is actually massive, the rotary Is going to look perfect in there, lower and easier to work on.
Iv labelled nearly everything on the harness too so easy to cut out any unwanted stuff.
Engine harness is still on the engine, trying not to cut it as it might be useful for someone? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190911/cb76a85f2e91ad1634725be358bc92bf.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2019, 06:38:32 PM
Post by: boosted on September 11, 2019, 06:38:32 PM
Photos and labels...but hey im telling you to suck eggs Grant lol.
You know what your doing.
Good to see you back with a project.
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You know what your doing.
Good to see you back with a project.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 11, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 11, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 11, 2019, 06:38:32 PMYeh it's good to be working on a car again although I don't miss being covered in oil and crap!
Photos and labels...but hey im telling you to suck eggs Grant lol.
You know what your doing.
Good to see you back with a project.
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Got 6 large rolls of shop towels and 2 tubs of degreaser to clean everything before I start installing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 13, 2019, 02:54:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 13, 2019, 02:54:27 PM
I'm trying to be nice with this engine taking out but it's getting me angry. Intake manifold just won't come off! Must be a screw I can't get too.
The exhaust was easy, just a bracket stuck to the cat that stopping me from pulling it out, radiator is out now.
Had a look on ebay and heated leather seats are worth 250! Anyone want them can have them for a bargain price of 150
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The exhaust was easy, just a bracket stuck to the cat that stopping me from pulling it out, radiator is out now.
Had a look on ebay and heated leather seats are worth 250! Anyone want them can have them for a bargain price of 150
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 04:59:10 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 04:59:10 PM
Can i ask why you don't just drop the whole sub frame, engine and gearbox as one?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:24:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 04:59:10 PMLack of space in the garage
Can i ask why you don't just drop the whole sub frame, engine and gearbox as one?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:25:34 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:25:34 PM
Fair enough. 1000x easier dropping sub frame though
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:25:34 PMI know, making things lighter helps me seeing as I'm lifting it out on my own too. Once I get the stupid intake manifold off and out it won't take too long tbh, it's the only thing left attached to the engine in the bay. Everything else is out.
Fair enough. 1000x easier dropping sub frame though
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Need a trip to the tip to get rid of all the crap
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
Might have a look at doing subframe actually as I got a fair few axle stands
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:32:57 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:32:57 PM
If you can get hold of a motor bike stand that makes the job easy.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
I will look into it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:35:05 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:35:05 PM
One of these. Are you local to Basingstoke? You can borrow mine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190914/e6c7315b05488c1ec40fdc816c12e7a1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:37:31 PM
Shame the engine is toast, I sold my 1.8 with 33k on for £1k
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:40:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:40:10 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:37:31 PMYeh it is but car only cost me 725 and I knew it would most likely be knackered.
Shame the engine is toast, I sold my 1.8 with 33k on for £1k
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Iv seen the seats on ebay are 250 and the gear box is worth about 200 so they should be a bargain for someone if they want them as I will just want them rid of quickly when they're out
Nowhere near Basingstoke lol
How much was that stand?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:41:21 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:40:10 PMFree... Was lying about my dad's house when we cleared it out.Quote from: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 05:37:31 PMYeh it is but car only cost me 725 and I knew it would most likely be knackered.
Shame the engine is toast, I sold my 1.8 with 33k on for £1k
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Iv seen the seats on ebay are 250 and the gear box is worth about 200 so they should be a bargain for someone if they want them as I will just want them rid of quickly when they're out
Nowhere near Basingstoke lol
How much was that stand?
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Maybe worth checking ebay/gum tree
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:44:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2019, 05:44:31 PM
Looking on amazon now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 07:11:22 PM
Post by: boosted on September 14, 2019, 07:11:22 PM
Opps wrong photo..hic wedding
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 10:33:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 14, 2019, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: boosted on September 14, 2019, 07:11:22 PMI did wonder
Opps wrong photo..hic wedding
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 09:49:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 09:49:38 AM
So apparently "engine cuts out" actually means cylinder number 1 rod is hanging out of the sump wondered where the oil was leaking from and iv just found a hole in the sump with rod hanging out
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 10:06:37 AM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 10:06:37 AM
lol that will do it............
At least putting a rotary in theres no chance of that happening again lol
At least putting a rotary in theres no chance of that happening again lol
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 10:47:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 10:47:49 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 10:06:37 AMIf a rotor comes out of the block iv clearly used too much boost
lol that will do it............
At least putting a rotary in theres no chance of that happening again lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 11:13:13 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 11:13:13 AM
Head is off, anger got the better of me so I cut the front cover as I just can't be bothered to try take the front pulley off, head looks in good condition though. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190916/65d467207d3a325a92f67d6628bd0828.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 12:23:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 16, 2019, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 11:13:13 AM
Head is off, anger got the better of me so I cut the front cover as I just can't be bothered to try take the front pulley off, head looks in good condition though.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
So just the block left in now really, need to get under neath and undo the ppf and gear box etc, noticed the mx5 has some extra braces under the car? Helps stiffen things up?
When I get around to having a cage put in I'm going to tie it into the gear box and also the diff, seems like a good thing to do to stiffen things up.
I was hoping to keep the soft top but it won't work with how I want the rear part of the cage to sit but it will stay in for now.
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When I get around to having a cage put in I'm going to tie it into the gear box and also the diff, seems like a good thing to do to stiffen things up.
I was hoping to keep the soft top but it won't work with how I want the rear part of the cage to sit but it will stay in for now.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:51:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:51:13 PM
Makita DTW190Z Impact Wrench 190Nm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EJBJY66/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gB3FDb4TQST3Y
Ordered myself one of these, always wanted one for working on cars but never had an excuse to get one until now.
Sadly though I'm nit paying the cost for one which will tighten the large rear nut that hold the flywheel on up to 300lb/ft
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Ordered myself one of these, always wanted one for working on cars but never had an excuse to get one until now.
Sadly though I'm nit paying the cost for one which will tighten the large rear nut that hold the flywheel on up to 300lb/ft
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 16, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 16, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
So just the block left in now really, need to get under neath and undo the ppf and gear box etc, noticed the mx5 has some extra braces under the car? Helps stiffen things up?
When I get around to having a cage put in I'm going to tie it into the gear box and also the diff, seems like a good thing to do to stiffen things up.
I was hoping to keep the soft top but it won't work with how I want the rear part of the cage to sit but it will stay in for now.
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Probably to help the chassis stay in piece when the tin worm attacks.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:34:34 PM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:51:13 PMI have two DeWalts. Little one goes up to 215nm and bigger goes to 950nm. But they are toys, I know Milwaukee has massive one, goes to 2800nm
Makita DTW190Z Impact Wrench 190Nm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EJBJY66/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gB3FDb4TQST3Y
Ordered myself one of these, always wanted one for working on cars but never had an excuse to get one until now.
Sadly though I'm nit paying the cost for one which will tighten the large rear nut that hold the flywheel on up to 300lb/ft
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 02:36:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:34:34 PMAre they battery powered?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:51:13 PMI have two DeWalts. Little one goes up to 215nm and bigger goes to 950nm. But they are toys, I know Milwaukee has massive one, goes to 2800nm
Makita DTW190Z Impact Wrench 190Nm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EJBJY66/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gB3FDb4TQST3Y
Ordered myself one of these, always wanted one for working on cars but never had an excuse to get one until now.
Sadly though I'm nit paying the cost for one which will tighten the large rear nut that hold the flywheel on up to 300lb/ft
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:40:35 PM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 02:36:36 PMYes they are. I have 18V 5AH batterys. That massive Milwaukee has 18V 10AH batteryQuote from: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:34:34 PMAre they battery powered?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 12:51:13 PMI have two DeWalts. Little one goes up to 215nm and bigger goes to 950nm. But they are toys, I know Milwaukee has massive one, goes to 2800nm
Makita DTW190Z Impact Wrench 190Nm https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EJBJY66/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gB3FDb4TQST3Y
Ordered myself one of these, always wanted one for working on cars but never had an excuse to get one until now.
Sadly though I'm nit paying the cost for one which will tighten the large rear nut that hold the flywheel on up to 300lb/ft
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
Damn, 59£ is cheap. My little cost 199â,¬ and bigger was 299â,¬, both without battery
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 03:14:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 03:14:22 PM
Just ordered one off amazon. Got enough torque on it to tighten up the massive nut
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 03:15:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 03:15:48 PM
NoCry 20V Cordless Impact Wrench - 300 ft-lb (400 Nm) Torque, 2700 Max IPM, 2200 RPM, 1/2 Inch Anvil; 4.0 Ah Battery, Fast Charger, Belt Clip & Carrying Case Included https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HDVN3G7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MJ5FDb8B86C4J
One of these
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 08:02:29 PM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 08:02:29 PM
Well, usually that big nut is really stuck. So you need something to lock flywheel good. And massive wrench, or long extension. I usually put engine to wooden pallet and strap it on it hard, so it wont move. Impact wrencesh usually doesent have enough "mass" to get that nut to move
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 08:19:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 16, 2019, 08:02:29 PMI'm not taking a nut off, I'm just putting it back on, fresh engine built by Carl years ago
Well, usually that big nut is really stuck. So you need something to lock flywheel good. And massive wrench, or long extension. I usually put engine to wooden pallet and strap it on it hard, so it wont move. Impact wrencesh usually doesent have enough "mass" to get that nut to move
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 08:35:59 PM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2019, 08:35:59 PM
Oh, I see, my bad Well, you still have to tight it really hard, dunno if these impact wrencesh have enough power for that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
It does tighten them up to 300ft/lbs, made sure it did before buying it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: xamtex on September 16, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
Post by: xamtex on September 16, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
i used a piece of 2 by 2 angle iron with 2 holes in that fit over the dowels...rest it on the floor and go for it.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 09:04:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 16, 2019, 09:04:41 PM
Sure this will do it just enough, I will let it do a couple of ugga duggas nice tool to have thought as I will no doubt have to change the clutch discs after a while of racing (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190916/67fb6481136edfca0b67690c1c67b7b5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 19, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 19, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
Got myself a subframe (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190919/16d203e6717c95368d4d112c1cff909f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 19, 2019, 09:46:56 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 19, 2019, 09:46:56 PM
Check around the camber bolt holes for cracks
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 19, 2019, 09:46:56 PMI will do thanks, going to get it Sand blasted so it's all fresh to paint
Check around the camber bolt holes for cracks
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 01:26:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 01:26:03 PM
Got 40quid for exhaust at scrapyard. One on ebay for 225 used but I cannot be bothered hoarding all this crap
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 01:29:02 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 20, 2019, 01:29:02 PM
The cats go for a pretty penny too at the tat yard
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 02:31:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 20, 2019, 02:31:25 PM
Is there another cat in the middle of the exhaust also?
Just dropped the subframe off for sand blasting.
Going to paint it with a light gray 2pac, make things look cleaner underneath and help me identify if and where leaks are coming from. I would go for white but that's very pretentious
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Just dropped the subframe off for sand blasting.
Going to paint it with a light gray 2pac, make things look cleaner underneath and help me identify if and where leaks are coming from. I would go for white but that's very pretentious
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
Post by: boosted on September 21, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
£125 for a civic oem cat within 5 mins of putting on ebay last night...maybe i should have asked for more....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2019, 02:02:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 26, 2019, 02:02:02 PM
Blasted and painted(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/546d81f6d92ca446cee04c393168d940.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190926/c5209c55b9df36f12eac57b66c5994bd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
Looking good Grant.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
Just had an hour child free before I have to get ready to go to work...
Removed the front clip/front gubbins/thingymajig
Now there's the crossmemeber just in front of the engine.. I want that gone but I'm unsure whether it's part of the structure of the car
it has quite a number of spot welds on it, the front bar thing only had 12 total.
If I take it away but add something back in then it will be fine, plus the subframe also gives the front end strength doesn't it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/3044589da18586723480f422d80fcb2a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/2278e405bf0956f1c3885eb4ce8f3872.jpg)
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Removed the front clip/front gubbins/thingymajig
Now there's the crossmemeber just in front of the engine.. I want that gone but I'm unsure whether it's part of the structure of the car
it has quite a number of spot welds on it, the front bar thing only had 12 total.If I take it away but add something back in then it will be fine, plus the subframe also gives the front end strength doesn't it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/3044589da18586723480f422d80fcb2a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/2278e405bf0956f1c3885eb4ce8f3872.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 02:01:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 02:01:31 PM
Engine is ouy! Some serious damage found, Rod, bearings, and a hole in the side of the block lifted engine out with my dad, who needs a hoist! Taking it to scrapper on Friday when iv got my van back(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/20d1c904097202b62ee236c8a34cf070.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/177fb2a77c4f42d8bf3c4d4db2d4e9b5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/ac6db7d478166ef01ff6b6f466fefad4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/54541ce158ee9813e39b0b28ee983aa4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/16252321a5db90ce75db5c66c956ee64.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/fee332607966d7f1c2c02b0ac1c937d3.jpg)
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lifted engine out with my dad, who needs a hoist! Taking it to scrapper on Friday when iv got my van back(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/20d1c904097202b62ee236c8a34cf070.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/177fb2a77c4f42d8bf3c4d4db2d4e9b5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/ac6db7d478166ef01ff6b6f466fefad4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/54541ce158ee9813e39b0b28ee983aa4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/16252321a5db90ce75db5c66c956ee64.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190930/fee332607966d7f1c2c02b0ac1c937d3.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 30, 2019, 03:22:50 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 30, 2019, 03:22:50 PM
0o0o0o that made an escape for freedom
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:29:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:29:24 PM
I think I just wanted to shed some light on the low oil situation
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 03:47:51 PM
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 03:47:51 PM
Copart...runs and cuts out....i think im done with copart tbh.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
I know, I think I might email them and say maybe they should give the vehicles a once over. It did run and cut out so it wasn't entirely dishonest. Know anyone that wants a 5 speed gear box? Must take the clutch off the engine too before going to scrappers, might be worth 50 quid to someone
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 03:55:52 PM
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 03:55:52 PM
The last mx5 i bought was a runner and i fully checked it over....but wouldnt start to load...they siphoned all the fuel out...i dont trust them anymore been a few instances on the last couple of cars ive bought and now the trust has gone for me
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:57:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 03:57:18 PM
If the engine had been easily fixable it would have been a bonus, someone on the mx5 forum was basically offering me a completely stripped chassis for 1000 quid
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 04:00:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 04:00:50 PM
Iv been trying find any threads/info online as to how light these cars can be made but having no such luck, any mx5 forum they simply say that a person shouldn't strip the interior and stuff because blah blah blah
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 05:01:57 PM
Post by: boosted on September 30, 2019, 05:01:57 PM
Mx5 cup cars? Maybe they have a site...ive been doing the same for the civic cup cars...seeing what parts they use racing etc..hence ive now got civic cup brakes front n rear.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 05:08:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 05:08:52 PM
I shall have a look.
It's strange but lifting the block out today seemed lighter than the rotary block iv got sitting on the garage floor. Now I know when iv got all my engine and turbo in it will be heavier than the piston motor I'm sure. However the mass will definately be sitting lower.
Next job is to get the gear box out then I'm unsure where to go from there, do I swap the subframe out? That way I can get the engine and box in the car etc
OR
do I pull the interior etc
I haven't measured anything but the mx5 gear box doesn't look too different in length to the fd gear box I have. I will know for sure on Friday though, going down south later today to do work
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It's strange but lifting the block out today seemed lighter than the rotary block
iv got sitting on the garage floor. Now I know when iv got all my engine and turbo in it will be heavier than the piston motor I'm sure. However the mass will definately be sitting lower.Next job is to get the gear box out then I'm unsure where to go from there, do I swap the subframe out? That way I can get the engine and box in the car etc
OR
do I pull the interior etc
I haven't measured anything but the mx5 gear box doesn't look too different in length to the fd gear box I have. I will know for sure on Friday though, going down south later today to do work
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 30, 2019, 08:59:20 PM
Post by: clive on September 30, 2019, 08:59:20 PM
Wow, you have been busy :13:
Any chance of popping the Rotary in you may still have.
Gear box could well be the same length because the R3 uses that same MX-5 box.
Any chance of popping the Rotary in you may still have.
Gear box could well be the same length because the R3 uses that same MX-5 box.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
What engine is going in this?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:11:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: clive on September 30, 2019, 08:59:20 PMI do still have it and it'd going in this car along with my turbo
Wow, you have been busy :13:
Any chance of popping the Rotary in you may still have.
Gear box could well be the same length because the R3 uses that same MX-5 box.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
The rx8 gearbox and mx5 gearbox are ever so slightly different on the mounting bolts. The bottom bolts line up. The top ones are about 20mm out.
I used a adapter plate.
Or get a 6 speed rx8 bellhousing and use the mx5 gearbox.
Mx5 and rx8 have different prop shaft ends.
All of this is detailed in my build thread by the way. Strongly suggest you have a read, will save you a lot of agro
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I used a adapter plate.
Or get a 6 speed rx8 bellhousing and use the mx5 gearbox.
Mx5 and rx8 have different prop shaft ends.
All of this is detailed in my build thread by the way. Strongly suggest you have a read, will save you a lot of agro
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:20:54 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:20:54 PM
Clive. I don't see how the r3 gearbox is the same?
The propshaft ends are different sizes
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The propshaft ends are different sizes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PMFull bridge port single turbo motor aiming for 500hp eventually
What engine is going in this?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 03:46:33 AM
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 03:46:33 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PMNice, thats going to be fun in that chassisQuote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PMFull bridge port single turbo motor aiming for 500hp eventually
What engine is going in this?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 01, 2019, 08:05:34 AM
Post by: clive on October 01, 2019, 08:05:34 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:20:54 PM
Clive. I don't see how the r3 gearbox is the same?
The propshaft ends are different sizes
Always learning, the popular belief is that the 6 speed MX-5 NC and the R3 shares the same box. Never seen one side by side personally but perhaps this theory is due to reverse being in a different position to the series 1 RX-8.
On a different note, its only over the last year that I realised that the FD box and RX-8 5 Speed gear boxes are interchangeable by just changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:46:25 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:19:59 PMI'm using a 5 speed FD rx7 gear box
The rx8 gearbox and mx5 gearbox are ever so slightly different on the mounting bolts. The bottom bolts line up. The top ones are about 20mm out.
I used a adapter plate.
Or get a 6 speed rx8 bellhousing and use the mx5 gearbox.
Mx5 and rx8 have different prop shaft ends.
All of this is detailed in my build thread by the way. Strongly suggest you have a read, will save you a lot of agro
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I think if I use an rx8 one I will have to purchase a different clutch and flywheel.I will be getting a prop shaft made up, fd slip joint Hong at the front and mx5 UJ at the diff end. Last time I looked into it they were only 100 quid
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:47:25 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:47:25 AM
Quote from: re japi on October 01, 2019, 03:46:33 AMYep, although I'd rather not have it at full power until it has a cage in itQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PMNice, thats going to be fun in that chassisQuote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PMFull bridge port single turbo motor aiming for 500hp eventually
What engine is going in this?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:49:41 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: clive on October 01, 2019, 08:05:34 AMI think I might have to find myself a 5 speed rx8 gear box also, rx7 gear boxes are going for 300 quid where as I bet rx8s are cheapQuote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:20:54 PM
Clive. I don't see how the r3 gearbox is the same?
The propshaft ends are different sizes
Always learning, the popular belief is that the 6 speed MX-5 NC and the R3 shares the same box. Never seen one side by side personally but perhaps this theory is due to reverse being in a different position to the series 1 RX-8.
On a different note, its only over the last year that I realised that the FD box and RX-8 5 Speed gear boxes are interchangeable by just changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:53:15 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:53:15 AM
Also something I had been told is that an rx8 gear box is slightly shorter than an fd gear box?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:55:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:55:39 AM
Just checked and rx8 5 speeds are about 100 to 150 quid, might have to start collecting a few for storage as I will no doubt break the input shaft at some point
I think with using an rx8 gear box Clive told me I have to use a clutch from an FC RX7?
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I think with using an rx8 gear box Clive told me I have to use a clutch from an FC RX7?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 09:57:59 AM
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 09:57:59 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:47:25 AMYes, thats true, easy way to get your self killed I reckon.Quote from: re japi on October 01, 2019, 03:46:33 AMYep, although I'd rather not have it at full power until it has a cage in itQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PMNice, thats going to be fun in that chassisQuote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PMFull bridge port single turbo motor aiming for 500hp eventually
What engine is going in this?
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I wonder how much its going to weight tho?Cause my Vert is going to be deathtrap and yours has better chassis but might be heavier
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
R3 gearbox is different than earlier 6 speeds. Earlier are made by Aisin and R3 is Mazda. 5 speed is basically same that FD has...
Mounts and lengts, I dont know for sure
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Mounts and lengts, I dont know for sure
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Post by: re japi on October 01, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:55:39 AMYes, FD has different type of clutch than FC and 8 has. Push/pull...
Just checked and rx8 5 speeds are about 100 to 150 quid, might have to start collecting a few for storage as I will no doubt break the input shaft at some point
I think with using an rx8 gear box Clive told me I have to use a clutch from an FC RX7?
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I suggest that you use 8's parts cause they are much cheaper than FCs or FD's
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 10:07:24 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: re japi on October 01, 2019, 09:57:59 AMWell I think standard weight is 1150kg, so by the time iv stripped stuff out I might get it to 1000kg, however I'm guessing that a full cage (I really want to get a weld in one but they're £1500} that will add maybe 50 kg back into the chassis but then I can cut all the excess weight out of doors etc which might be a lot. The last time I took a door off a car it was really heavy,Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:47:25 AMYes, thats true, easy way to get your self killed I reckon.Quote from: re japi on October 01, 2019, 03:46:33 AMYep, although I'd rather not have it at full power until it has a cage in itQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2019, 09:23:15 PMNice, thats going to be fun in that chassisQuote from: Paul_13 on September 30, 2019, 09:06:20 PMFull bridge port single turbo motor aiming for 500hp eventually
What engine is going in this?
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Cause my Vert is going to be deathtrap and yours has better chassis but might be heavier
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I'm a bit unsure if the engine swap will lose any weight but we shall see.
If it ends up under 1000 kg I will be impressed, when a cage goes in I will have to lose the soft top which will weigh a fair bit, however it would be nice to keep it. As the replacement hard tops aren't cheap, and the racing carbon ones are even more expensive
I had to take the bonnet off the other day and It literally weighs nothing, which reminded me of my FD bonnet, that weighed nothing also, but it got damaged and I replaced it with a carbon fiber one which was actually heavier!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 10:10:18 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 10:10:18 AM
Quote from: re japi on October 01, 2019, 10:05:39 AMI'm sure I will have to swap over but I currently have a twin disc clutch etc, if I swap over to the rx8 gear box I will have to buy another clutch which aren't too cheapQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 01, 2019, 09:55:39 AMYes, FD has different type of clutch than FC and 8 has. Push/pull...
Just checked and rx8 5 speeds are about 100 to 150 quid, might have to start collecting a few for storage as I will no doubt break the input shaft at some point
I think with using an rx8 gear box Clive told me I have to use a clutch from an FC RX7?
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I suggest that you use 8's parts cause they are much cheaper than FCs or FD's
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It's funny at the cost of clutches for these mazda when you look at the cost of some clutches available for American v8s etc
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 05:33:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 05:33:51 PM
So I thought I'd better have a look at the clutch before I take the knackered block to the scrappers tomorrow.... Nice exedy clutch. Think the flywheel is stock but if its not then it's worth a prety penny! I'm guessing whoever owned this car might have used it on track, which explains the oil starvation and windows in the block mess
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 03, 2019, 05:35:19 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 03, 2019, 05:35:19 PM
That clutch is OEM.
I found the same on mine and thought I found some uprated parts. Not the case unfortunately
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I found the same on mine and thought I found some uprated parts. Not the case unfortunately
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 05:37:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 03, 2019, 05:37:39 PM
Still they're 250 brand new, might be able to get 100 for it? Looks to have plenty of meat on it. There's a huge amount of clutch dust inside the gear box, so someone has been giving this car some stick for sure
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
So a couple lessons learned today.
1. Take gear box oil out of gear before pulling it out
2. You can't just drop the subframe out and leave the other bits like suspension in there, it all has to come out.
3. The suspension bushing need replacing for sure as they fell in bits
4. Engine block is worthless to scrap men but at least its out of my way now
Subframe out and new one in.
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1. Take gear box oil out of gear before pulling it out
2. You can't just drop the subframe out and leave the other bits like suspension in there, it all has to come out.
3. The suspension bushing need replacing for sure as they fell in bits
4. Engine block is worthless to scrap men but at least its out of my way now
Subframe out and new one in.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 04, 2019, 02:51:29 PM
:icon_thumleft: Looks like it grew there
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
There's literally no difference other than the engine mounts. The lower control arms are a ballache, I managed to snap one of the drop links for the ARBs also.
Need to run a tap down a couple of the threads as they're full of paint.
Next time I get onto the car I will get it all bolted back up and back on its wheels again, the cab bolts need a good cleaning up before going back in too.
I need to look into the rear housing swap for an rx8 gear box onto mine as I have a feel the fd gear box I have is slightly longer than the mx5 one but I will get my tape measure out tomorrow and just measure them
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Need to run a tap down a couple of the threads as they're full of paint.
Next time I get onto the car I will get it all bolted back up and back on its wheels again, the cab bolts need a good cleaning up before going back in too.
I need to look into the rear housing swap for an rx8 gear box onto mine as I have a feel the fd gear box I have is slightly longer than the mx5 one but I will get my tape measure out tomorrow and just measure them
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 04, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 04, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:03:18 PMThe 5 & 6 speed rx8 box fits fine on the mx5 power plant frame.
There's literally no difference other than the engine mounts. The lower control arms are a ballache, I managed to snap one of the drop links for the ARBs also.
Need to run a tap down a couple of the threads as they're full of paint.
Next time I get onto the car I will get it all bolted back up and back on its wheels again, the cab bolts need a good cleaning up before going back in too.
I need to look into the rear housing swap for an rx8 gear box onto mine as I have a feel the fd gear box I have is slightly longer than the mx5 one but I will get my tape measure out tomorrow and just measure them
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The only issue it the top mounting holes do not line up.
If you're going for a rx8 diff, I would modify a rx8 power plant frame.
The rx8 diff will not fit the mx5 power plant frame as far as I'm aware.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
Yeh I'm sure I will have to modify the ppf completely,
I have an fd gear box and I'm sure the diff on the mx5 won't last long.
What I would prefer to do is just get rud of the ppf all together and just mount the gear box and the diff solid to the chassis, that will get rid of any twist and flex from them
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I have an fd gear box and I'm sure the diff on the mx5 won't last long.
What I would prefer to do is just get rud of the ppf all together and just mount the gear box and the diff solid to the chassis, that will get rid of any twist and flex from them
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 04, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 04, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
Someone did a ppf delete on a mx5. Cut the ppf short on the diff end and welded on a rose jointed brace to the chassis
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:28:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 04, 2019, 03:28:28 PM
I like that, wonder if they noticed any difference?
I'm going to replace the diff bushings too for something harder.
Engine, gear box and diff are all going to be solid mounted for sure, stop any extra loss of power so that the suspension and tyres can do there things
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I'm going to replace the diff bushings too for something harder.
Engine, gear box and diff are all going to be solid mounted for sure, stop any extra loss of power so that the suspension and tyres can do there things
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2019, 10:55:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 05, 2019, 10:55:49 AM
Right as you can just make out the mx5 gear box is 735mm to the shift knob, and the fd gear box is 860mm ish. However the fd gear box has a second mounting location which moves it to a better place, the shift knob location doesn't really matter as I could just cut things up but I ideally want the shift knob in the stock location.
If I leave the fd shift knob where it is, essentially it will move the engine forward some 100+mm which is no good as I want it further back to give max space for the turbo and pipes etc
Soooo Clive if you look in here, if I swap the rear housing on my fd gear box for an rx8s will it put my shift knob in the same position as the mx5s/rx8s? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/f6e9f633f2bf93e871e8d92148888499.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/132f5d249e0c3a8fca5d4c8fc70a72e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/ba40c598eb116668c85084b219dc0c6c.jpg)
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If I leave the fd shift knob where it is, essentially it will move the engine forward some 100+mm which is no good as I want it further back to give max space for the turbo and pipes etc
Soooo Clive if you look in here, if I swap the rear housing on my fd gear box for an rx8s will it put my shift knob in the same position as the mx5s/rx8s? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/f6e9f633f2bf93e871e8d92148888499.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/132f5d249e0c3a8fca5d4c8fc70a72e3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191005/ba40c598eb116668c85084b219dc0c6c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 07, 2019, 07:30:20 AM
Post by: re japi on October 07, 2019, 07:30:20 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 04, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
Someone did a ppf delete on a mx5. Cut the ppf short on the diff end and welded on a rose jointed brace to the chassis
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Hasnt seen that ever done. Quite interesting tho, so thanks for sharing. But why is the question...?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 07, 2019, 07:52:36 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 07, 2019, 07:52:36 AM
Engine transplant.
I think that was a v8 conversion
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:06:12 AM
Post by: re japi on October 08, 2019, 07:06:12 AM
Using MX own gearbox?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 08, 2019, 07:15:33 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 08, 2019, 07:15:33 AM
Nope, would mean having to sort different clutch etc. Trying to use all the stuff I have rather than spending unnecessary money.
Only thing I am contemplating on spending extra money is an ecu even though the one iv got is good for running even a 3 rotor or v8 etc i would be much happier with a newer ecu.
I have email AET turbos about pricing for newer haltech, the 750pro looks like it would be good for me
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Only thing I am contemplating on spending extra money is an ecu even though the one iv got is good for running even a 3 rotor or v8 etc i would be much happier with a newer ecu.
I have email AET turbos about pricing for newer haltech, the 750pro looks like it would be good for me
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 06:02:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 06:02:27 PM
Got these for the front lower rear as they look a but weird. To be able make myself as they look to actually move as the suspension goes up and down, the other arm bushes are simple though. These were £60 for a pair.
Look awkward to press in but nothing lube can't help(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/b1133681ca382d4c07d6ffa23a59405c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/98f9c297b03b7d485453b149b726c9f0.jpg)
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Look awkward to press in but nothing lube can't help(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/b1133681ca382d4c07d6ffa23a59405c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/98f9c297b03b7d485453b149b726c9f0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 06:27:56 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 06:27:56 PM
They are a twat to fit
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 07:01:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 07:01:32 PM
I can imagine so, dad's friend has got a beastly press so might have to borrow that.
This is what happens to the bushings that are in there, (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/f84edb8fedae573a096a40e6afcca88e.jpg)
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This is what happens to the bushings that are in there, (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/f84edb8fedae573a096a40e6afcca88e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 07:07:17 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 07:07:17 PM
That's what mine were like.
Sorry I was getting confused. The rear ufo shaped one's are awful to pass in
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Sorry I was getting confused. The rear ufo shaped one's are awful to pass in
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
I was thinking that they would come in two pieces and then the insert would essentially hold It together
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 08:29:34 PM
I've got a set of the powerflex black upper wishbone bushes if you're interested?
£25 delivered.
Not fitted for long at all. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/adfafe340f628de7e9cbf94eca5baf3b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/00fe17f09cd9bb23c861478afe97945c.jpg)
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£25 delivered.
Not fitted for long at all. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/adfafe340f628de7e9cbf94eca5baf3b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/00fe17f09cd9bb23c861478afe97945c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 10, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 10, 2019, 08:29:34 PMYeh thanks. Send me your bank details please
I've got a set of the powerflex black upper wishbone bushes if you're interested?
£25 delivered.
Not fitted for long at all. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/adfafe340f628de7e9cbf94eca5baf3b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/00fe17f09cd9bb23c861478afe97945c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:25:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:25:34 PM
Sooooo I found an issue with using the rx8 subframe, the steering rack does not fit 
So the obvious choice is to use an rx8 steering rack as I am not taking the subframe back out
Anyone know this?
Anyone have an rx8 steering rack laying around please? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/4b79cfffd9c323c239156a4c93b18309.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/e1d223ce733cb70482e960717c66c3e5.jpg)
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So the obvious choice is to use an rx8 steering rack as I am not taking the subframe back out
Anyone know this?
Anyone have an rx8 steering rack laying around please? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/4b79cfffd9c323c239156a4c93b18309.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/e1d223ce733cb70482e960717c66c3e5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
On a positive note I managed to put the passenger side suspension back together. Not putting bushings in just yet as like iv said before the aim is to get the engine in and car running.
Need to order myself some WEM smart coils as I sold mine to Clive a while ago, also need plug wire kit and then a full function engineering trigger kit about £700 I think all in
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 12, 2019, 04:43:22 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 12, 2019, 04:43:22 PM
Yeah... The rack doesn't fit. Have to go with Rx8. I have an rx8 rack here but it has play in the rack itself. Not sure if it's an easy fix.
You will need the EPS ecu/loom etc. Not sure how you'll get around the torque sensor.
It would make sense to convert the car to rx8 and then look at "fitting" the engine you want.
Then you would have functioning power steering etc
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You will need the EPS ecu/loom etc. Not sure how you'll get around the torque sensor.
It would make sense to convert the car to rx8 and then look at "fitting" the engine you want.
Then you would have functioning power steering etc
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:50:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 12, 2019, 04:43:22 PMCan it not be used manually?
Yeah... The rack doesn't fit. Have to go with Rx8. I have an rx8 rack here but it has play in the rack itself. Not sure if it's an easy fix.
You will need the EPS ecu/loom etc. Not sure how you'll get around the torque sensor.
It would make sense to convert the car to rx8 and then look at "fitting" the engine you want.
Then you would have functioning power steering etc
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Is the rx8 rack power steering electrical or does it have a power steering pump run off the engine like the mx5 did? As I will not be having a power steering pump on my engine, saps power, looks shit and mean more stuff cluttering uo the engine bay
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
Clive depowered his. the details are in his race car thread. :)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:54:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 04:54:36 PM
That was my next question as I had a thought in back of my head so eobe had done it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 12, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
Post by: clive on October 12, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
Mr eobe here ;) , see Jon, I told I get called lots of things :D :D.
Anyway, with sensible hat back on. I still have an NC rack in the garage and found like you, it would not fit.
As Jon say's search the race car thread as details are in there. Once I sussed out how the RX-8 rack worked it was an easy conversion and just a matter of making a sleeve to stop the worm drive working.
Coils, if you remember I was running stock RX-8 coils and my mapper of the time kept saying that the coils were why it would not map properly---------wrong, the AEM coils made no difference !!!
So it may save you money to run the RX-8 coils. Also Pip and myself uncovered something weird when he took over. I was using the full function wheel but also took an RX 8 wheel, an FD wheel and a wheel I had modified. we ran the car up with different wheels attached and bizarrely it made no difference, yet again know this may save you money.
Anyway, with sensible hat back on. I still have an NC rack in the garage and found like you, it would not fit.
As Jon say's search the race car thread as details are in there. Once I sussed out how the RX-8 rack worked it was an easy conversion and just a matter of making a sleeve to stop the worm drive working.
Coils, if you remember I was running stock RX-8 coils and my mapper of the time kept saying that the coils were why it would not map properly---------wrong, the AEM coils made no difference !!!
So it may save you money to run the RX-8 coils. Also Pip and myself uncovered something weird when he took over. I was using the full function wheel but also took an RX 8 wheel, an FD wheel and a wheel I had modified. we ran the car up with different wheels attached and bizarrely it made no difference, yet again know this may save you money.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2019, 05:47:11 PM
Trigger wheels ahhh...i was thinking steering wheels lol.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Quote from: clive on October 12, 2019, 05:42:56 PMDid you just swap the wheels around and used the same pick up? I'm looking at getting the hall effect sensor as it is far superior than a mag aparently.
Mr eobe here ;) , see Jon, I told I get called lots of things :D :D.
Anyway, with sensible hat back on. I still have an NC rack in the garage and found like you, it would not fit.
As Jon say's search the race car thread as details are in there. Once I sussed out how the RX-8 rack worked it was an easy conversion and just a matter of making a sleeve to stop the worm drive working.
Coils, if you remember I was running stock RX-8 coils and my mapper of the time kept saying that the coils were why it would not map properly---------wrong, the AEM coils made no difference !!!
So it may save you money to run the RX-8 coils. Also Pip and myself uncovered something weird when he took over. I was using the full function wheel but also took an RX 8 wheel, an FD wheel and a wheel I had modified. we ran the car up with different wheels attached and bizarrely it made no difference, yet again know this may save you money.
I'm swapping my engine front cover from an FD front cover too an FC front over so that I can bolt an FC sump straight up instead of having to custom make one.
Therefore a can buy the FFE trigger wheel kit which bolts straight up however I already know it won't work with my side mount alternator
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 08:47:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 08:47:50 PM
For anyone that wants to know, Clive Post about depowering the rack is on reply 1492...... Yeh I just scrolled through the whole thread to find it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2019, 08:49:28 PM
Give me a rough idea, need to get a rack and stick it in. Just so it holds the wheels straight and then pull it in bits(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/56ebe3a1a8e5a9f4e451daeea839f618.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/c1b3d71860263273624d4249aaf3934d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/19d9077c089de4c9d87d603ad8c98cf0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191012/cdb27ad539297ec4b6736652028e84a9.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 01:53:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 01:53:31 PM
Back on the ground so I threw the engine in
Couple of issues even though the gone isn't in its final resting place,
The chassis support piece has to go, it's blocking room for the most important bit in the engine bay, the turbo.
Fuel rail is hitting the clutch master cylinder possibly going to have to source a different intake manifold, most likely and FC LIM with an adapter plate to fit an FD UIM, that should give me clearence as I know this manifolds will sit much lower than mine.
ABS is in the way, wanted to try keep it but guess I'm going to have to remove it.
My turbo manifold needs modifying, I knew it would as I had it made when I was trying to build my rx4, I still have some bends left etc so will be also moving the wastegat to a different location most likely on the bottom of the manifold to make more room up top.
Just look at the last picture! I know standard mx5s are shocking at ground clearence but just look at the gap I have there now, I still have to throw in the gear box and turbo so it will drop a little bit, oh and the clutch but damn there's a lot of nose weight I must have taken out
Final point, picking a rotatt engine up on your own isn't what I advise anybody to do, they're heavier then you think(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/49b0824d75eb68fead6c9c3e96247dce.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/0f61cbd8125abf55d667d19b991d5ad0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/0685b97e2807a6f06c9f50658c3a86bb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/df94733d2c26f988990c194260d5e122.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/482bc90785edba136aa084328e2c61b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/56261c2c4bb92891248f12fbeafee0f9.jpg)
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Couple of issues even though the gone isn't in its final resting place,
The chassis support piece has to go, it's blocking room for the most important bit in the engine bay, the turbo.
Fuel rail is hitting the clutch master cylinder
possibly going to have to source a different intake manifold, most likely and FC LIM with an adapter plate to fit an FD UIM, that should give me clearence as I know this manifolds will sit much lower than mine.ABS is in the way, wanted to try keep it but guess I'm going to have to remove it.
My turbo manifold needs modifying, I knew it would as I had it made when I was trying to build my rx4, I still have some bends left etc so will be also moving the wastegat to a different location most likely on the bottom of the manifold to make more room up top.
Just look at the last picture! I know standard mx5s are shocking at ground clearence but just look at the gap I have there now, I still have to throw in the gear box and turbo so it will drop a little bit, oh and the clutch but damn there's a lot of nose weight I must have taken out
Final point, picking a rotatt engine up on your own isn't what I advise anybody to do, they're heavier then you think
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 14, 2019, 03:27:57 PM
Post by: clive on October 14, 2019, 03:27:57 PM
Can you not drop the engine 15mm as it looks like it would then clear, also the plenum should be able to be cut and modded OK.
I shifted the engine three times up n down before I was happy.
You probably know this, but make your new further forward cross member and get it in place before cutting out the old one as you may end up with wibbly wobbly chassis legs.
I shifted the engine three times up n down before I was happy.
You probably know this, but make your new further forward cross member and get it in place before cutting out the old one as you may end up with wibbly wobbly chassis legs.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 03:53:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 03:53:30 PM
The engine is sat as low as possible, its sat on the subframe currently.
The plenym can be changed easily but it's the fuel rail that's hitting the clutch master.
If I got a pedal box I suppose that would remove the issue bit I'd rather not get into sorting all that kind of stuff just right now.
Do you know if kev is still around?
I could really do with someone that has a stash of parts so I can swap and change things to see what fits
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The plenym can be changed easily but it's the fuel rail that's hitting the clutch master.
If I got a pedal box I suppose that would remove the issue bit I'd rather not get into sorting all that kind of stuff just right now.
Do you know if kev is still around?
I could really do with someone that has a stash of parts so I can swap and change things to see what fits
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 03:58:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 03:58:42 PM
I will take a better picture of it as I didn't realise how dark the picture was
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:26:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:26:28 PM
Now if I lift the engine and square it up I think I might be able to get the fuel line around the back of it so we shall see.
I think I'm going to try leave that chassis support in there and work around it, going to have to lift the turbo up anyway. My exhaust piping is right at the back of the damned garage though so going to have to climb over all my rubbish to get to it plus I can get to use my divided stainless flange instead of the single entry I previously used.
Turbo might poke out of the bonnet a little(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/4cdbef35a784b20a0b5c7a51cda59962.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/7abf10803c5aace0155f0d255a6e34cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/b8aba187ea67981509629be41927ef28.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/ed47c8c270423f0fb1309aea73b89178.jpg)
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I think I'm going to try leave that chassis support in there and work around it, going to have to lift the turbo up anyway. My exhaust piping is right at the back of the damned garage though so going to have to climb over all my rubbish to get to it
plus I can get to use my divided stainless flange instead of the single entry I previously used.Turbo might poke out of the bonnet a little(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/4cdbef35a784b20a0b5c7a51cda59962.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/7abf10803c5aace0155f0d255a6e34cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/b8aba187ea67981509629be41927ef28.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/ed47c8c270423f0fb1309aea73b89178.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:31:16 PM
Can you not spin the fuel rail 180' and have the connection end towards the front of the car?
Or is there connections both ends? Surely you can get a custom rail.
"turbo might poke out of the bonnet slightly" :D
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Or is there connections both ends? Surely you can get a custom rail.
"turbo might poke out of the bonnet slightly" :D
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:31:16 PMLet me take some pictures of the whole thing as it easier to see why I can do it rather than explain.
Can you not spin the fuel rail 180' and have the connection end towards the front of the car?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:46:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:46:25 PM
As you can see, 2 fuel rails
Need to run fuel line from tank to one rail and then to the other and then to the FPR etc or which ever way it goes to the FPR then return line
Because of the manifold I have that stupid fuel rail on the outside which is not what I want ideally as its going to be right next to the exhaust.
Originally I thought I was going to be getting an FD motor but I ended up with this which has S4 13BT irons I believe, FD housings and rotors and for whatever daft reason the primary fuel ports on the centre plate have been blocked up so I can't even use them for mounting Injectors
not knowing that the bolt patterns on this engine is different to an FD so I can't even use readily available aftermarket parts etc
ANYWAY......
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Need to run fuel line from tank to one rail and then to the other and then to the FPR etc or which ever way it goes to the FPR then return line
Because of the manifold I have that stupid fuel rail on the outside which is not what I want ideally as its going to be right next to the exhaust.
Originally I thought I was going to be getting an FD motor but I ended up with this which has S4 13BT irons I believe, FD housings and rotors and for whatever daft reason the primary fuel ports on the centre plate have been blocked up so I can't even use them for mounting Injectors
not knowing that the bolt patterns on this engine is different to an FD so I can't even use readily available aftermarket parts etc
ANYWAY......
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:48:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:48:12 PM
If someone wants to buy me this it will solve any issues
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
Be careful of that roof in your shed!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:50:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:49:40 PMIt's not asbestos
Be careful of that roof in your shed!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:56:29 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 04:50:24 PMFooled me!Quote from: Paul_13 on October 14, 2019, 04:49:40 PMIt's not asbestos
Be careful of that roof in your shed!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 05:05:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 05:05:16 PM
Well house supposedly had surveys done on it when we bought it 8 years ago and it said nothing about asbestos
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 14, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Post by: boosted on October 14, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
It will be alright unless you damage it..when it breaks the fibres get into the air...our factory roof is full of it...
But maybe not asbestos as not picked up on survey...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 11:55:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2019, 11:55:01 PM
It's perfectly safe.
Anyone know what size and thread pitch gest box to engine screws are?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 01:24:08 AM
Post by: boosted on October 15, 2019, 01:24:08 AM
M10 1.25 fine pitch off the top of my head..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 15, 2019, 10:19:26 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 15, 2019, 10:19:26 AM
Bushes arrived Paul thanks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191015/4b84c9eec118ac22639be963692f5a0a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 15, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 15, 2019, 10:24:11 AM
If you end up fitting rx8 anti roll bars, I have a brand new powerflex black set of rear bushes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 15, 2019, 11:17:06 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 15, 2019, 11:17:06 AM
Nice one, I will keep that in mind
Iv just remembered I'm going to have to make the turbo manifold fit around the steering! Best get that in and connected up before I get the engine in position and do turbo manifold
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Iv just remembered I'm going to have to make the turbo manifold fit around the steering! Best get that in and connected up before I get the engine in position and do turbo manifold
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 02:25:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2019, 02:25:22 PM
Just spoken to Kev20Bcosmo and going to get a 13Bt LIM off him
Haven't spoken to him for a long time and we just had a quick rotor chat and catch up on the phone
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 21, 2019, 11:24:57 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 21, 2019, 11:24:57 AM
Got my UIM (Upper Intake Manifold) think I'm going to try go pick the UIM up tomorrow(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191021/7073d6267a2ec6ff56b5210f6bf6b60c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 22, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 22, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
Got my LIM now, fits so much better! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191022/b4160b4d0c8b937e3da9edd4c2128ea2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191022/2c89dcf85a04478ceb70f4ade75da22b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 22, 2019, 05:03:02 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 22, 2019, 05:03:02 PM
Nice nice
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 22, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
Post by: clive on October 22, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
That's better :)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 22, 2019, 05:21:26 PM
Post by: boosted on October 22, 2019, 05:21:26 PM
Wouldnt worry about the oil filter. Clives got some nice little 1s.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 22, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 22, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
I'm thinking of getting an oil filter relocator anyway, so its slightly more accessible
Going to try sell my other intake, along with the injectors so I can buy some 2200cc injectors and a fuel rail.
Currently the injectirs I have got I think are the bosch 1680s and some 450s but I rekon I can run a decent amount of hp just off 2 of the big injectors
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Going to try sell my other intake, along with the injectors so I can buy some 2200cc injectors and a fuel rail.
Currently the injectirs I have got I think are the bosch 1680s and some 450s but I rekon I can run a decent amount of hp just off 2 of the big injectors
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 23, 2019, 06:49:50 AM
Post by: re japi on October 23, 2019, 06:49:50 AM
If you are not running E85 or water/meth injection, those 1680 injectors should be enough. But 450 are too small for primarys I think
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 10:20:38 AM
Post by: clive on October 23, 2019, 10:20:38 AM
I run 1680's and 850's (FD secondary's) and you know the power mine has, so you don't need any more than those for now.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2019, 11:10:29 AM
Post by: Jamie R on October 23, 2019, 11:10:29 AM
Im gonna say its looks impressive, because it does, (not that i know whats is good or bad).
But if it makes it all fit then happy days.
I wish I had that much room on the Renny between the housings and the IM, I struggled just to get the wires off the injectors with no space and I got girls hands.
Keep up the good work :icon_thumleft:
But if it makes it all fit then happy days.
I wish I had that much room on the Renny between the housings and the IM, I struggled just to get the wires off the injectors with no space and I got girls hands.
Keep up the good work :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 23, 2019, 11:19:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 23, 2019, 11:19:04 AM
Mine primary injector ports have been filled with devcon though
Don't know if it's possible to remove it without pulling the block apart and drilling it out
I know the injectors I have are more than enough, however if a run a 2200cc Injector on the secondary, which kev was telling me that the Injector dynamics 2200 that I will find the idle using these injectors will be a lot smoother and crisper due to how good they are.
Ideally I want to run 1000cc primary and 2200 secondary, but if I can't run the inje tors in the primary location I'm going to have to get a set of weld on injectors bungs on the LIM where the oil injectors normally sit if possible.
It's a bit hard to explain without having some pictures
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Don't know if it's possible to remove it without pulling the block apart and drilling it out
I know the injectors I have are more than enough, however if a run a 2200cc Injector on the secondary, which kev was telling me that the Injector dynamics 2200 that I will find the idle using these injectors will be a lot smoother and crisper due to how good they are.
Ideally I want to run 1000cc primary and 2200 secondary, but if I can't run the inje tors in the primary location I'm going to have to get a set of weld on injectors bungs on the LIM where the oil injectors normally sit if possible.
It's a bit hard to explain without having some pictures
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 02:52:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 02:52:02 PM
Doesnt look like much but iv got the gear box bolted to the engine and its almost in its final resting place 5 to 10mmside to side and up and down but its almost there.
The gear lever is almost in stock location too, just a little massaging needed with a cutting wheel. Turbo is going to sit somewhere near that location, maybe a bit higher. I really don't want to take away the ABS but it's just in the blooming way! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/44443cde0e10f4e9de1d357906e604c8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/a3d32ee2a8e32922beefab3be387a430.jpg)
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The gear lever is almost in stock location too, just a little massaging needed with a cutting wheel. Turbo is going to sit somewhere near that location, maybe a bit higher. I really don't want to take away the ABS but it's just in the blooming way! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/44443cde0e10f4e9de1d357906e604c8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/a3d32ee2a8e32922beefab3be387a430.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 25, 2019, 02:56:57 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 25, 2019, 02:56:57 PM
Awesome
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
Running b4 chrimbo at this rate Grant...welldone.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
Don't know about that but I will definately fire the engine gone up as soon as I can.
Should be funny with no exhaust in my tiny garage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2019, 04:59:43 PM
Post by: boosted on October 25, 2019, 04:59:43 PM
Youll stink, you never forget that rotary smell..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 06:27:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 06:27:16 PM
It will make my garage smell like petrol instead of gear box oil which is coating the floor
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 25, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Post by: clive on October 25, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Going to be a proper handful once its up n running----------------and loads of fun :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 25, 2019, 08:44:15 PM
Post by: re japi on October 25, 2019, 08:44:15 PM
What a... Thats a big turbo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: re japi on October 25, 2019, 08:44:15 PMIt's only a bw366, just a mid size turbo. Much rather have an s400 sized turbo, something like an s488 or GT42 SIZED
What a... Thats a big turbo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2019, 02:50:18 AM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2019, 02:50:18 AM
Really? Looks really big. Could be optical illusion tho, you haveless room there than I have in mine
So, its about same size than mine is a little bigger maybe. I have Switcher S300 hybrid with 60mm compressor/68mm turbine 1.16ar
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So, its about same size than mine is a little bigger maybe. I have Switcher S300 hybrid with 60mm compressor/68mm turbine 1.16ar
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 31, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 31, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
Got my throttle body and TPS.
Got some weld on Injector bosses coming from Australia too and a series 5 to series 6 adapter for the inlet manifold coming from new Zealand.
For the cost of the adapter it just easier and quicker than me having to make one. 225 nz dollars, about 100 quid (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/ef0da541531342ca83365a14169f21e7.jpg)
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Got some weld on Injector bosses coming from Australia too and a series 5 to series 6 adapter for the inlet manifold coming from new Zealand.
For the cost of the adapter it just easier and quicker than me having to make one. 225 nz dollars, about 100 quid (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191031/ef0da541531342ca83365a14169f21e7.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on October 31, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on October 31, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
Look at the state of that oil filter
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 31, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 31, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on October 31, 2019, 05:16:15 PMIt's only on there to keep out debris
Look at the state of that oil filter
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
The final piece to the intake puzzle. All the way from New Zealand.
This adapter allows you to go from a series 5 lower inlet manifold to use a series 6 upper inlet manifold
IT cost 200Nz dollars plus another £30 import tax.
IT has O rings to give a perfect reusable seal too
They also make a series 4 to series 6 adapter as the stud patterns on the series 4 lower intake are slightly different to the series 5.
Finally got some steel delivered so I can make the engine mounts.
Having to pull the engine further forwards for clearence with this adapter which is fine as this will bring the gear knob prety much into the stock mx5 location
no cutting needed apart from a little trim on part of the subframe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/09740e0b95733d9371b6e05e96a3fed4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/45780282ec6903681166869854190c22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/e3d4038b84bd123e6f8977382c7ab17b.jpg)
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This adapter allows you to go from a series 5 lower inlet manifold to use a series 6 upper inlet manifold
IT cost 200Nz dollars plus another £30 import tax.
IT has O rings to give a perfect reusable seal too
They also make a series 4 to series 6 adapter as the stud patterns on the series 4 lower intake are slightly different to the series 5.
Finally got some steel delivered so I can make the engine mounts.
Having to pull the engine further forwards for clearence with this adapter which is fine as this will bring the gear knob prety much into the stock mx5 location
no cutting needed apart from a little trim on part of the subframe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/09740e0b95733d9371b6e05e96a3fed4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/45780282ec6903681166869854190c22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191116/e3d4038b84bd123e6f8977382c7ab17b.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on November 16, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on November 16, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
Nice!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
You know whats really ridicilous :
Most of those Aussie companys refuses to send their stuff to Finland? I wonder why
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2019, 03:48:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2019, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: re japi on November 16, 2019, 03:46:50 PMIf you need or want anything order it. To mine and then I can send it over
You know whats really ridicilous :
Most of those Aussie companys refuses to send their stuff to Finland? I wonder why
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 04:00:44 PM
Post by: re japi on November 16, 2019, 04:00:44 PM
Naah, thanks mate.
Ill be using FC system for now. If I change it, it will be completely custom made intakemanifold
Other stuffs, well I have almost everything I need at the moment
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Ill be using FC system for now. If I change it, it will be completely custom made intakemanifold
Other stuffs, well I have almost everything I need at the moment
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on December 15, 2019, 09:52:44 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on December 15, 2019, 09:52:44 PM
Any progress?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on December 15, 2019, 09:52:44 PMNot at the moment as iv been really busy with work.
Any progress?
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Might get a few days in before Xmas as work drying up
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2020, 09:45:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2020, 09:45:18 PM
So things have ground to a halt as iv just got my house sold and have just had an offer accepted on my new much bigger one! With a garage that will fit a car in much better. Allow me to work on things easier
it all goes through smoothly and they want it all completed by 28th February
Just ordered an rx8 steering rack so I can at least tow the car up there rather than pay for a transporter etc i will get it bolted in so steering works.
I Have been looking at the mx5 subframe and I think I should have just used that as the mounting points lend them selves to support the engine mounts on my engine
I'm going to get it cleaned up and painted and make a decision as it's not really hard to swap them back over at this point as I haven't fabbed mounts as of yet
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it all goes through smoothly and they want it all completed by 28th February Just ordered an rx8 steering rack so I can at least tow the car up there rather than pay for a transporter etc i will get it bolted in so steering works.
I Have been looking at the mx5 subframe and I think I should have just used that as the mounting points lend them selves to support the engine mounts on my engine
I'm going to get it cleaned up and painted and make a decision as it's not really hard to swap them back over at this point as I haven't fabbed mounts as of yet
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on January 15, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on January 15, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2020, 09:45:18 PM
So things have ground to a halt as iv just got my house sold and have just had an offer accepted on my new much bigger one! With a garage that will fit a car in much better. Allow me to work on things easier
Just ordered an rx8 steering rack so I can at least tow the car up there rather than pay for a transporter etc i will get it bolted in so steering works.
I Have been looking at the mx5 subframe and I think I should have just used that as the mounting points lend them selves to support the engine mounts on my engine
I'm going to get it cleaned up and painted and make a decision as it's not really hard to swap them back over at this point as I haven't fabbed mounts as of yet
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I was looking at mounting the MX5 PAS in the space of the AC Compressor on the RX8 enigne.
Also
I know that GarageReg (Colum) has developed a Hydraulic PAS kit for the 13B-REW. Might be worth dropping him a message. He posted an instagram story last year showing the kit and "stay tuned"
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on January 15, 2020, 08:46:04 AM
Post by: clive on January 15, 2020, 08:46:04 AM
Good luck Grant, great to see your still looking forward, which is so hard when you have a long term project and life etc gets in the way.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2020, 10:38:10 AM
Post by: boosted on January 15, 2020, 10:38:10 AM
Congrants on the house!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on January 15, 2020, 11:11:39 AM
Post by: Casey on January 15, 2020, 11:11:39 AM
Good luck with the house move, I hope it all goes smoothly. It will be great to have more space, especially for car stuff :)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 15, 2020, 06:03:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 15, 2020, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on January 15, 2020, 07:38:38 AMI'm not interested in having power steering work right now as I doubt I will be driving this on the road much if at all.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2020, 09:45:18 PM
So things have ground to a halt as iv just got my house sold and have just had an offer accepted on my new much bigger one! With a garage that will fit a car in much better. Allow me to work on things easier
Just ordered an rx8 steering rack so I can at least tow the car up there rather than pay for a transporter etc i will get it bolted in so steering works.
I Have been looking at the mx5 subframe and I think I should have just used that as the mounting points lend them selves to support the engine mounts on my engine
I'm going to get it cleaned up and painted and make a decision as it's not really hard to swap them back over at this point as I haven't fabbed mounts as of yet
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I was looking at mounting the MX5 PAS in the space of the AC Compressor on the RX8 enigne.
Also
I know that GarageReg (Colum) has developed a Hydraulic PAS kit for the 13B-REW. Might be worth dropping him a message. He posted an instagram story last year showing the kit and "stay tuned"
Thanks anyway
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 17, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 17, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
Just quickly thrown the rx8 rack on, obviously the rx8 is a bit wider than the front so I need to lay racks next to each other and work out how to get the rx8 one to the correct length which should just mean turning the end bits, what ever they're called lol
I take it the ends that attach to the hubs are the same diameter,
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2020, 11:04:35 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2020, 11:04:35 AM
So...... Yeh the rx8 rack is not any different don't know why I thought it was, must have been tired from working nights
So I have steering again, haven't got the tie rod ends nits tightened up yet but they will hold for the moment to help with the move, just need to put a copper washer on the brake front passenger side and then bleed them so they will work a bit lol
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don't know why I thought it was, must have been tired from working nightsSo I have steering again, haven't got the tie rod ends nits tightened up yet but they will hold for the moment to help with the move, just need to put a copper washer on the brake front passenger side and then bleed them so they will work a bit lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
Some slight productivity, turbo manifolds make me happy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/04783e100576780e8d2e6ba53cacc790.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/41f888a7aa319bf984a58566dfea1f99.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 04:48:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 04:48:04 PM
This is where the turbo is going to stay, clears the abs so don't have to try move it or remove it, placing it here has create enough room to loop the down pipe back on itself if I wish to run a full exhaust system, but more importantly I can send the exhaust straight across the engine bay, down around and pointing out Infront of the front passenger side wheel which will be better for my lungs and ears as the fuel flames and mighty braps will be pointing away from the drivers side, especially seeing as the car is a convertible and the turbulence will try suck the fumes straight into the cabin(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/60a4b755c07a2508703fb20186a461e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/9479d545fbe53f22302f3aded4c9c460.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/d625937ba458e8a3fb0ab34c0392fac4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/83f7dc09818889a793b9b0b67fc72c62.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/38747a9f8086d9d7214942ca656722bf.jpg)
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which will be better for my lungs and ears as the fuel flames and mighty braps will be pointing away from the drivers side, especially seeing as the car is a convertible and the turbulence will try suck the fumes straight into the cabin(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/60a4b755c07a2508703fb20186a461e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/9479d545fbe53f22302f3aded4c9c460.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/d625937ba458e8a3fb0ab34c0392fac4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/83f7dc09818889a793b9b0b67fc72c62.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200131/38747a9f8086d9d7214942ca656722bf.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 04:49:43 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 04:49:43 PM
The is gonna be awesome Grant!!! Woohoo! 
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 04:52:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 04:52:57 PM
Chuffing steering rack colum fouls on the manifold but not a big issue as we will just take a scallop out of the header tube etc, won't effect anything
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 04:55:07 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 04:55:07 PM
I thinking this is gonna be mad like a Mad Mike Whiddet creation and side exit exhaust shooting flames cool...brill no noise limits at drag tracks...(that im aware off).
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 05:00:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 05:00:50 PM
No noise restrictions at all, with the exhaust pointing out of the left hand side it will also be useful for distracting whoever I'm racing, providing I am staged in the right hand lane.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
https://youtu.be/fegu6VewNJU
Gobto 40 seconds, thays a 3 rotor maybe mine can throw some similar flames
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Gobto 40 seconds, thays a 3 rotor maybe mine can throw some similar flames
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 05:11:40 PM
Post by: boosted on January 31, 2020, 05:11:40 PM
Yeah thats cool!!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on February 20, 2020, 09:43:22 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on February 20, 2020, 09:43:22 PM
Awesome progress with turbo install
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 22, 2020, 06:01:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 22, 2020, 06:01:47 PM
Think I'm going to use the mx5 subframe. It has perfectly made mounts welded to the frame already for me to bolt my engine mounts to.
Plus by the looks of it the mx5 steering rack sits flat whereas the rx8s is sat up and forward. Wonder if this kind of positioning has any effect on steering angle? As the rx8 is sat that but higher?
Iv got to cut the subframe to pull the engine forward I think so I need to it off the car anyway even if I use the rx8 or mx5 frame.
Still waiting on moving house but hoping in next couple of weeks. Could end up with plenty of time off with this covid 19 kicking around so might be productive once I'm I. The new house and warmer garage.
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Plus by the looks of it the mx5 steering rack sits flat whereas the rx8s is sat up and forward. Wonder if this kind of positioning has any effect on steering angle? As the rx8 is sat that but higher?
Iv got to cut the subframe to pull the engine forward I think so I need to it off the car anyway even if I use the rx8 or mx5 frame.
Still waiting on moving house but hoping in next couple of weeks. Could end up with plenty of time off with this covid 19 kicking around so might be productive once I'm I. The new house and warmer garage.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on March 22, 2020, 07:23:04 PM
Post by: clive on March 22, 2020, 07:23:04 PM
Good to see you posting again Grant.
You wont really know untill the car is on its wheels and can see the angle the track rods, obviously there's various ways of sorting the track rods so you dont get bump steer, which trust me is horrible and makes for a dangerious unpredictable car that will dive all over the road.
You wont really know untill the car is on its wheels and can see the angle the track rods, obviously there's various ways of sorting the track rods so you dont get bump steer, which trust me is horrible and makes for a dangerious unpredictable car that will dive all over the road.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2020, 10:44:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2020, 10:44:11 AM
Quote from: clive on March 22, 2020, 07:23:04 PMHi Clive, I can see theyre at an angle already but the car is sitting really high currently.
Good to see you posting again Grant.
You wont really know untill the car is on its wheels and can see the angle the track rods, obviously there's various ways of sorting the track rods so you dont get bump steer, which trust me is horrible and makes for a dangerious unpredictable car that will dive all over the road.
The wheel to front wing gap is about 5.5inches! I would imagine it's going to drop a little further with radiator intercooler etc but iv stood on the front of the car and I'm over 90kg, and jumped up and down and it didn't make the slightest but if difference, however doesn't matter for the moment, just something iv noticed so far.
I don't know what suspension will lower the car 5 inches but I'm already looking into some shocks for drag racing that work for transfer of weight etc. Much different to track car suspension with regards to compression and rebound rates etc to help keep the car squatted at the rear and up at the front launching the car.
Anyway I'm blabbing on now
Just pulled my PWR charge cooler from out of the shed and also found a small oil cooler kit I won years ago from banzai magazine
Also found my switch panel.
I'm Thinking to bin off all the wiring of the car and run the bare minimum, but keep most of the body wiring stored for if I need to get all brake lights working and stuff?
Plus saves weight
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2020, 05:29:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 24, 2020, 05:29:05 PM
So I was thinking that my charge cooler from my rx4 project would be waaaay too big due to engine bay size... HOWEVER! I cut the piping off as I'm literally bored to death and had a quick gander to see...
Well my oh my its going to going in there just perfect, I'm cutting a fair bit of the front panel out anyway so it will guve me room to move it forward tucked in behind the bumper ANNNNNDD that will give me loads of room for the engine radiator and also the rad used to cool the charge cooler
I might be able to get away without running the charge cooler rad by using a water/ice box in the boot and run lines through the car,
ice cooled water X super chilled charge air
= more horseypowers
I have seen people use dry ice but I will have to look into that as I know the dry ice coolers on drag cars need a vent system as the dry ice gives off gas or something
I know the charge cooler system will be heavier but I already own this and it will save me a lot of money instead of purchasing a top of the line intercooler
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Well my oh my its going to going in there just perfect, I'm cutting a fair bit of the front panel out anyway so it will guve me room to move it forward tucked in behind the bumper ANNNNNDD that will give me loads of room for the engine radiator and also the rad used to cool the charge cooler
I might be able to get away without running the charge cooler rad by using a water/ice box in the boot and run lines through the car,
ice cooled water X super chilled charge air
= more horseypowers
I have seen people use dry ice but I will have to look into that as I know the dry ice coolers on drag cars need a vent system as the dry ice gives off gas or something
I know the charge cooler system will be heavier but I already own this and it will save me a lot of money instead of purchasing a top of the line intercooler
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 29, 2020, 06:38:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 29, 2020, 06:38:07 PM
Moved house, what a complete pain in the arse with not being able to get anyone to help. Managed it though with help from my brother and my dad. All wearing mask to make it harder, just incase
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2020, 06:50:29 PM
Post by: boosted on March 29, 2020, 06:50:29 PM
Blimey! Glad you got it done few weeks and prob wouldnt have happened!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
Cars current position until garage is cleared, look at the gap page issue I have on the wheel to arch(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/c8ad64347a80650b5dabac1702a788d6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/ece320eb0a75528551c2b93be72cb14d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/361b0b531b81b83a674d9b21ab378cfa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/e834e4abc6d95338344b096143f6f120.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on March 30, 2020, 01:02:54 PM
Post by: boosted on March 30, 2020, 01:02:54 PM
Is that with the engine in?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 01:05:10 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 01:05:10 PM
Out at a guess
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on March 30, 2020, 02:16:41 PM
Post by: Casey on March 30, 2020, 02:16:41 PM
Amazing you managed to complete a house move under the current circumstances!
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:50:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 01:05:10 PMNo that's with engine in and gear box! Iv had turbo in there too and iv stood on it and it just doesn't go anywhere.
Out at a guess
Iv still got the interior to come out too, electric heated seats etc.
Even adding a full roll cage isn't going to drop it that much?
Speaking of the interior, does anyone know anyone that wants the stuff? Plus a gear box. Much cheaper than current ebay prices too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:51:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: Casey on March 30, 2020, 02:16:41 PMWe were worried it might not happen but they had stated on the news that people at the point and in the middle of exchanging contracts were allowed to complete etc because there no real way to stop the process without it costing everyone thousands
Amazing you managed to complete a house move under the current circumstances!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:06:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:50:17 PMWow!Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 01:05:10 PMNo that's with engine in and gear box! Iv had turbo in there too and iv stood on it and it just doesn't go anywhere.
Out at a guess
Iv still got the interior to come out too, electric heated seats etc.
Even adding a full roll cage isn't going to drop it that much?
Speaking of the interior, does anyone know anyone that wants the stuff? Plus a gear box. Much cheaper than current ebay prices too
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What colour are the seat hoops?
Are you ditching the dash?
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Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
Pic of the seats?.
Edit: found pics of seats. How much out of interest?
Edit: found pics of seats. How much out of interest?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
Selling your door mirrors by any chance?
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:49:35 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:07:53 PM200 for the pair?
Pic of the seats?.
Edit: found pics of seats. How much out of interest?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:51:16 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 06:06:42 PMKeeping most of the dash just removing everything behind so it somewhat resembles a car interior.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 30, 2020, 05:50:17 PMWow!Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 01:05:10 PMNo that's with engine in and gear box! Iv had turbo in there too and iv stood on it and it just doesn't go anywhere.
Out at a guess
Iv still got the interior to come out too, electric heated seats etc.
Even adding a full roll cage isn't going to drop it that much?
Speaking of the interior, does anyone know anyone that wants the stuff? Plus a gear box. Much cheaper than current ebay prices too
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What colour are the seat hoops?
Are you ditching the dash?
NOT sure on the hoops, if it has any. Will be taking the cover off later today and maybe pull the seats out for something to do
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:52:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 09:06:46 PMPossibly keeping them as cars look funny without them lol you in desperate need of some?
Selling your door mirrors by any chance?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on March 31, 2020, 12:22:47 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 31, 2020, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 11:52:04 AMI had it in my head you bought some carbon race ones for some reasonQuote from: Paul_13 on March 30, 2020, 09:06:46 PMPossibly keeping them as cars look funny without them lol you in desperate need of some?
Selling your door mirrors by any chance?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 03:05:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 03:05:49 PM
Rear hoop any good to you? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/4c76f229ea08fdef1d3621d94aa76719.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on March 31, 2020, 03:16:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on March 31, 2020, 03:16:46 PM
Just the black covers which face towards the back of the car
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 04:36:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 04:36:42 PM
Iv just taken the whole thing out
Are you interested in the seats? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/f4a2a9cdfa97f9bf7d340d804865d298.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 06:15:19 PM
Prety much got the interior out of the car, just the dashboard and stuff behind it to remove now which I'm hoping I might get chance to remove tomorrow.
If anyone is interested in 2 heated leather seats, all plastics, door cards, carpets etc then it's yours, plus a gear box all for 350 quid, price negotiable. Plus you can have any of the stuff from behind the dash that I remove, including the stereo.
If anyone knows how to put windows up on an mx5 without the battery in then let me know as iv removed it and most of the wiring but left the window down
Having to put a sheet over it for incase it rains, snows, hails, cats and roads or covid 19 falls out of the sky into it. I'm thinking of maybe getting the battery and jumping some cables onto the window motor?
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If anyone is interested in 2 heated leather seats, all plastics, door cards, carpets etc then it's yours, plus a gear box all for 350 quid, price negotiable. Plus you can have any of the stuff from behind the dash that I remove, including the stereo.
If anyone knows how to put windows up on an mx5 without the battery in then let me know as iv removed it and most of the wiring but left the window down
Having to put a sheet over it for incase it rains, snows, hails, cats and roads or covid 19 falls out of the sky into it. I'm thinking of maybe getting the battery and jumping some cables onto the window motor?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
Getting prety bare in the car, (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/cf9099aac41e0479b3072a344d477e58.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/556635a5a15a14a31676ad25f4f94e8d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
What a complete pain in the rear hoop it is getting the dashboard out! 10 billion screws and the having to take the dash bar out just to take a few screws out to remove the AC and fan etc, carpet out in one piece also lol
Didn't get around to trying to get the windows up as gf does nothing but moan so I will try do that tomorrow haha(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/56257d653a843e4c03d9e9d83f6c55f9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/309eeaebd9595794e640e2339bfac65c.jpg)
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Didn't get around to trying to get the windows up as gf does nothing but moan so I will try do that tomorrow haha(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/56257d653a843e4c03d9e9d83f6c55f9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/309eeaebd9595794e640e2339bfac65c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
new house....playin with car!!!! your a legend mate.
I expect youll be on end of pointy finger soon...lol :angryfire:
I expect youll be on end of pointy finger soon...lol :angryfire:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2020, 06:14:56 PM
Post by: Casey on April 01, 2020, 06:14:56 PM
:)) :)) :)) :)) Amazed you've managed to do anything on your car, having just moved house. I don't think I would have got away with it ;)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:25:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:25:38 PM
Going to port open the UIM to match the rear of the throttle body. Getting rid of the secondary throttle body which is for controlling the throttle until the engine is fully warmed up. I don't need that as I'm not going to be thrashing the nuts off a car until its fully warmed up. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/8bc19f39db957364d8e5ff148e093bba.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/f8ef337abb7f72db2ee96c8aacac850f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:27:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 01, 2020, 05:50:39 PMHouse is in good condition, have put curtains up and tidied everything essential away, and done any bits and pieces the gf wanted doing like hanging some mirrors etc
new house....playin with car!!!! your a legend mate.
I expect youll be on end of pointy finger soon...lol :angryfire:
Iv even put kids trampoline up so they can do something to help with the boredom of being house bound lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:28:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: Casey on April 01, 2020, 06:14:56 PMThis is the only time iv got plenty of time and space to get anything done before I'm required to go back to work so I'm cracking on, need a welder and don't think my dad will lend me his so I can make engine mounts, oh and learn to weld at the same time
:)) :)) :)) :)) Amazed you've managed to do anything on your car, having just moved house. I don't think I would have got away with it ;)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:31:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 06:31:59 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 01, 2020, 05:50:39 PMDon't suppose you have any suggestions for how to get the windows up without putting all the wiring back in?
new house....playin with car!!!! your a legend mate.
I expect youll be on end of pointy finger soon...lol :angryfire:
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 07:29:11 PM
Post by: boosted on April 01, 2020, 07:29:11 PM
Power them off a car battery?
Or door cards off unbolt glass from reg and pull up by hand. Gaffer tape up.
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Or door cards off unbolt glass from reg and pull up by hand. Gaffer tape up.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 08:19:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 01, 2020, 07:29:11 PMYeh I was thinking send power straight from the battery to the motor? Should work shouldn't it so long as batteries ground to the chassis?
Power them off a car battery?
Or door cards off unbolt glass from reg and pull up by hand. Gaffer tape up.
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NOT clued up on car electrics but can't be that different to usual 230 volt that I'm used to lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:04:47 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:04:47 PM
Go on mellens.com for wiring loom.
I've got an interactive manual on laptop.
The mx5 and rx8 wiring looks are almost identical if you get stuck trying to find a mx5 diagram
I've got an interactive manual on laptop.
The mx5 and rx8 wiring looks are almost identical if you get stuck trying to find a mx5 diagram
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:05:56 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 01, 2020, 09:05:56 PM
http://www.mellens.net/mazda/Mazda-Miata-2006-2007/index.html
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 10:07:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 01, 2020, 10:07:49 PM
Nice one
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2020, 04:25:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2020, 04:25:59 PM
Dad ported the bridge between the secondary butterfly's out as don't need it there, suppose to improve airflow too so more hp hopefully.
Just need to make some block off plates or buy some for all the holes etc left from removing all the rats not and emmisons gumf...
Front bumpers don't half look funny and happy probably end up swapping this front for the mk3.5 front as they look a bit better.
Iv removed the door cards also today, quite easy once you know where to find the screws, removed the speakers and the plastic that it's all attached too, honestly can see the doors being the seldom most biggest place to lose any more weight, but I'm not too sure if I need to keep the glass in or not, if I forked put for some light weight doors Or most likely hole saw the crap out of these ones.
I'm going to put window nets in so hopefully that negates the need for the actual windows as nets would stop arms flying out in an accident
Looking at getting a TIG welder, they're not all that expensive tbh just can't go buying one whilst I'm not at work(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/d412931dc07ea54bbc109f5500708b3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/9e8c53c6d96983bd620bbab5cbcd370c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/aebbceadfe7396d47cf9c24cbb4f67f8.jpg)
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Just need to make some block off plates or buy some for all the holes etc left from removing all the rats not and emmisons gumf...
Front bumpers don't half look funny and happy
probably end up swapping this front for the mk3.5 front as they look a bit better.Iv removed the door cards also today, quite easy once you know where to find the screws, removed the speakers and the plastic that it's all attached too, honestly can see the doors being the seldom most biggest place to lose any more weight, but I'm not too sure if I need to keep the glass in or not, if I forked put for some light weight doors Or most likely hole saw the crap out of these ones.
I'm going to put window nets in so hopefully that negates the need for the actual windows as nets would stop arms flying out in an accident
Looking at getting a TIG welder, they're not all that expensive tbh just can't go buying one whilst I'm not at work(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/d412931dc07ea54bbc109f5500708b3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/9e8c53c6d96983bd620bbab5cbcd370c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/aebbceadfe7396d47cf9c24cbb4f67f8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 02, 2020, 05:24:20 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 02, 2020, 05:24:20 PM
Bear in mind you'll need to get the head lights. Under tray shields and good luck finding one.
Mx5 mk 3.5 are a nightmare to find bits for
Mx5 mk 3.5 are a nightmare to find bits for
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2020, 05:31:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2020, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on April 02, 2020, 05:24:20 PMTrue, unless I don't need to run them.
Bear in mind you'll need to get the head lights. Under tray shields and good luck finding one.
Mx5 mk 3.5 are a nightmare to find bits for
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 05:51:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 05:51:39 PM
Bolted the upper inlet to the lower to see if it fits now iv got engine in location front to back as iv lifted the gear box into positionand its really close to stock position, just requires a little opening of the hole with a cutting disc.
Got a little issue with the alternator.... Its too damn bigtried putting the original water pump housing on but the just creates huge issues with the turbo, as the alternator would originally bolt to the water pump housing.
Engine looks prety good in there, mazda should have offered a turbo rotary option from factory with the mx5, wouldn't have to worry about trying to sell a different model car to a minority of enthusiasts lol all the people into racing would have for sure ordered mx5s with the rotary engine (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/03efd312edec5b93919752f6a1074ccd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/080aa98f792b4b4c9b441c8e315cec91.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/bb47596a5c2df789c42f20d93610db91.jpg)
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Got a little issue with the alternator.... Its too damn big
tried putting the original water pump housing on but the just creates huge issues with the turbo, as the alternator would originally bolt to the water pump housing.Engine looks prety good in there, mazda should have offered a turbo rotary option from factory with the mx5, wouldn't have to worry about trying to sell a different model car to a minority of enthusiasts lol all the people into racing would have for sure ordered mx5s with the rotary engine (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/03efd312edec5b93919752f6a1074ccd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/080aa98f792b4b4c9b441c8e315cec91.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/bb47596a5c2df789c42f20d93610db91.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 06:41:07 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 06:41:07 PM
Built 2 apex make an alternator bracket which I believe let's the alternator sit closer to the engine
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 07:34:14 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 07:34:14 PM
https://www.built2apex.com/product-page/fd-low-mount-alternator-bracket
Maybe not
Maybe not
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 07:40:53 PM
Can you mount it where it was originally? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/2292a4cd9b7d93d1124d677c92f4b351.jpg)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 07:55:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 06:41:07 PMCheers I will look into it. I think Clive runs a smaller sized but but more powerful alternator? I will gain a bit of space when I get the engine in place but its not going to be much at all. If needs be I will have to make one
Built 2 apex make an alternator bracket which I believe let's the alternator sit closer to the engine
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 07:59:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2020, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on April 03, 2020, 07:40:53 PMNo because when I put it on earlier it fills up the room where the turbo is going to sit. I will throw it all in and take a picture tomorrow.
Can you mount it where it was originally? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/2292a4cd9b7d93d1124d677c92f4b351.jpg)
Although I'm using an fd intake, the engine plates are actually from an FC, iv currently got an fd front cover on the engine but I'm swapping that over to an FC front cover so I can use a stock fc sump
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
As you can see, off use the water pump housing (which makes the engine looks absolute dog poop) it's taking up room where my turbo is going.
The alternator originally bolts to that housing. I'm sure I will gain another 20mm when I shift the engine over a little. So things might fit, just.
Need to figure out how to take the front cover off and swap it over to the fc one(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/468e49b6f511245b48c18ec1302ff129.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/5951bd5241c0df1f62a617fb29166421.jpg)
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The alternator originally bolts to that housing. I'm sure I will gain another 20mm when I shift the engine over a little. So things might fit, just.
Need to figure out how to take the front cover off and swap it over to the fc one(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/468e49b6f511245b48c18ec1302ff129.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/5951bd5241c0df1f62a617fb29166421.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 02:42:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 02:42:16 PM
A question for anyone that knows about suspension...
So obviously I have a near 6 inch gap now between the top of the wheel and the fenders/wings, this has come from me removing so much interior and boat anchor engine piston motor.
Are the current standard springs and shocks too heavy of a spring? Would soft springs allow the car to settle down and sit lower?
Obviously adjustable coilovers will help BUT will they still end up sitting so high?
I'm betting on this car weighing less than a tonne even with a full roll cage.
What is the best way to to get the car sitting right? Corner weights? And then select suspension set up from there?
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So obviously I have a near 6 inch gap now between the top of the wheel and the fenders/wings, this has come from me removing so much interior and boat anchor engine piston motor.
Are the current standard springs and shocks too heavy of a spring? Would soft springs allow the car to settle down and sit lower?
Obviously adjustable coilovers will help BUT will they still end up sitting so high?
I'm betting on this car weighing less than a tonne even with a full roll cage.
What is the best way to to get the car sitting right? Corner weights? And then select suspension set up from there?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 03:18:27 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 03:18:27 PM
I’m no expert but everyone I spoke to when I was ordering my coil overs when I asked what poundage spring rate to get they all asked for the corner weights.
Like you it’s a bit difficult question to answer when you have “half a car†I went for a relatively lightweight one, but won’t know for definite till it’s all fin
I consider adjustable coil overs fine tuning for getting corner weights balanced and getting your suspension geometry correct. You dun want bump steer or odd camber angles.
I’d suggest get all ya car loaded up ready to roll then you can make a more informed decision on lighter springs, adjustable coil overs or both
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Like you it’s a bit difficult question to answer when you have “half a car†I went for a relatively lightweight one, but won’t know for definite till it’s all fin
I consider adjustable coil overs fine tuning for getting corner weights balanced and getting your suspension geometry correct. You dun want bump steer or odd camber angles.
I’d suggest get all ya car loaded up ready to roll then you can make a more informed decision on lighter springs, adjustable coil overs or both
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 03:51:40 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 03:51:40 PM
I can recommend meister r coilovers
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Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 03:52:12 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 03:52:12 PM
My friend owns Kam Racing and is able to supply these with custom springs
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:42:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:42:35 PM
Cheers guys. Just looked at how much corner scales are.... Not buying any of those
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:45:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 03:52:12 PMNice one. Will bear it in mind when I get closer to needing them
My friend owns Kam Racing and is able to supply these with custom springs
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:42:35 PMThere are companies that loan them out. I won’t be buying them either lol
Cheers guys. Just looked at how much corner scales are.... Not buying any of those
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 04, 2020, 05:19:56 PM
Post by: boosted on April 04, 2020, 05:19:56 PM
Ideally you want bottom wishbones flat 180degress to road and lower body. There are some adj camber top wishbones to geometry correct a lower car....
And maybe soften springs are thicker arbs to sort the handling.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 07:06:34 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 07:06:34 PM
I'm running yellow dot rx8 arb's and it's got a bit of understeer
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 07:07:00 PM
Rx8 Arb's are a direct fit
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 04:50:45 PMQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 04, 2020, 04:42:35 PMThere are companies that loan them out. I won’t be buying them either lol
Cheers guys. Just looked at how much corner scales are.... Not buying any of those
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Here's a cheap way to do corner weighting (all credit Peter Hewson, ex RX-8 OC member and is an engineer at McLaren)
I'm a cheapscate, and cannot justify spending the hundreds of pounds to buy proper corner weight scales. But, fortunately, it is just about possible to weight an 8 using bathroom scales! You need eight scales, which can be bought for about £4 each from Tesco or Argos. You have to use four scales under each wheel, since each scale can only take about 110kg, and each corner of the car could register around 350kg. You also need to allow plenty of overhead, because each scale will register quite different loads (unless you have perfectly flat ground, and you get the wheel perfectly central, which you won't). You must weigh each axle in turn, front axle then rear. Don't try to measure an individual wheel with just four scales, because the "cross-axle articulation" will give you a totally false reading.
After you have gently dropped the front (or rear) of the car onto the eight scales simply add together the four measurements for the left wheel, then add together the four measurements for the right wheel, and you will end up with the corner masses.
Reading the scale that sits underneath the car can be tricky, but I found that using a mirror worked well. You just have to angle it until the parallax lines pointer are in line, then read the mirrored numbers.
Note that the method isn't brilliantly accurate, but with care you should get within a few kilos. Also note that you won't be able to get individual corner weights from this method because how ever careful you are you will always have some cross-axle articulation present. But you should get a pretty good total car mass, fairly accurate front to rear distribution, and fairly good left to right distribution. And all for about £40. Bargain.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on April 05, 2020, 05:57:09 AM
Post by: re japi on April 05, 2020, 05:57:09 AM
Well, getting corner weights right, only accurate measuring would be with good corner weights scales.
Everything affects everything. Lets say that put weigh on rear right corner, scales would show that mass increases in other corners too
Heres pics from my bros FB. First, without driver. Second with driver. However, when you put driver in, you have to modify some weights position cause then corner weights would be off... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200405/72a025e64bc3e1ee572269282c82ea49.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200405/e51c04292ae1306b7b5c81faf709d49c.jpg)
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Everything affects everything. Lets say that put weigh on rear right corner, scales would show that mass increases in other corners too
Heres pics from my bros FB. First, without driver. Second with driver. However, when you put driver in, you have to modify some weights position cause then corner weights would be off...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 05, 2020, 06:44:57 AM
Post by: boosted on April 05, 2020, 06:44:57 AM
Jarno whats happening with Jnykis( soz if wrong) fb..been quiet for on the FB rally x for awhile?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 05, 2020, 09:30:29 AM
Post by: clive on April 05, 2020, 09:30:29 AM
Problem with corner weighting is how to move the weight around, but there are solutions. ;)
On a sensible note, I now my mate Steve has like a cantilever bar that you pick the corner of the car up by hooking into the wheel.
No idea what you would call it but I would say its cheaper than as set of scales
On a sensible note, I now my mate Steve has like a cantilever bar that you pick the corner of the car up by hooking into the wheel.
No idea what you would call it but I would say its cheaper than as set of scales
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2020, 07:23:37 AM
Post by: re japi on April 06, 2020, 07:23:37 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 05, 2020, 06:44:57 AMHe doing is brakes again. Bike brakes to every corner...
Jarno whats happening with Jnykis( soz if wrong) fb..been quiet for on the FB rally x for awhile?
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And after he put launch control rev limiter on, car wont start...
But he hasnt done much to car lately. Has bigger motivation problems than I have
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 08:18:47 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: Paul_13 on April 04, 2020, 07:06:34 PMWould that mean that it is too hard then?
I'm running yellow dot rx8 arb's and it's got a bit of understeer
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on April 06, 2020, 08:21:25 AM
Post by: Paul_13 on April 06, 2020, 08:21:25 AM
On the front yes. I would stick with mx5 ARB but go for rx8 rear
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
Sound, I would imagine the front end is lighter, especially with you just running the renesis compared to the piston engine so the standard/softer than an rx8 roll bar would be better?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 06:37:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 06:37:59 PM
Drawn up some brackets.
Cut them out of metal, 3mm mild steel.
Just need some metal glue now.
Got some more bits to make but these are the bits the will mount to the engine and the subframe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/6da64962779b54c91ff5808f023a5334.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/8fc3b98efc9221e62e42cea646af2e06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/736655a9120a65a6d1f947734834d7ca.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/f7a00536b91d1aa6979e65b18c3be8f4.jpg)
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Cut them out of metal, 3mm mild steel.
Just need some metal glue now.
Got some more bits to make but these are the bits the will mount to the engine and the subframe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/6da64962779b54c91ff5808f023a5334.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/8fc3b98efc9221e62e42cea646af2e06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/736655a9120a65a6d1f947734834d7ca.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200406/f7a00536b91d1aa6979e65b18c3be8f4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 08, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
Post by: clive on April 08, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
Sound, I would imagine the front end is lighter, especially with you just running the renesis compared to the piston engine so the standard/softer than an rx8 roll bar would be better?
I would suggest that the RX-8 Roll bar will be better anyway as it will be a stiffer bar.
Racing Beat make two types of anti roll bar for thew NC, one which is stiffer than stock and then a "race" bar that is actually listed for the RX-8 as well.
I would say that stiffness wise, the stock RX-8 bar will be between a stock NC bar and Racing Beats first upgrade.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 08, 2020, 08:44:26 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 08, 2020, 08:44:26 PM
Neil is using my garage to brake an newer 07 plate RX8
Front anti roll bar has a dot on it
Do you need it ?
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Do you need it ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 08, 2020, 08:44:26 PMI'm alright at the moment thanks
Neil is using my garage to brake an newer 07 plate RX8
Front anti roll bar has a dot on it
Do you need it ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 01:30:20 PM
Can anyone tell me what these ports are for? I'm thinking oil pressure and maybe water temp? I can't remember though (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200409/1750dfd90c54752f0e4fe3f931576008.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2020, 07:58:27 PM
Post by: boosted on April 09, 2020, 07:58:27 PM
Ill have alook tomoz Grant
The lower taped up 1 beleive coolant to heater matrix
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 05:46:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2020, 05:46:06 PM
Quote from: clive on April 09, 2020, 05:33:13 PMThanks Clive, yes it is a second gen plate. Carl used 2nd gen plates, 3rd gen housings and rotors and I think maybe and rx8 Crank but not sure on that one
Looks like a Gen 2 or earlier rear plate, anyway, here you go.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2020, 06:06:54 AM
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2020, 06:06:54 AM
What rotor gears it has on end plates?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2020, 01:46:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2020, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: re japi on April 12, 2020, 06:06:54 AMNo idea. Carl probably can't even remember it's been that long. He built knowing it was for drag racing, although it hasn't had any studding on dowelling
What rotor gears it has on end plates?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2020, 03:21:28 PM
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2020, 03:21:28 PM
Oh, I see. Then I reckon that it has FDs or Eights, cause they are stronger than FCs
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:48:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:48:20 PM
Rigged the battery up, grounded it to the chassis, adequately sized wires used obvioulsy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/d45d2c76b7e1bd0acf002e0146ad0f2b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:50:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:50:21 PM
Cut the red and white wire on the passenger side window motor plug and connected it to the +positive terminal off the battery... Few Sparks and boom window went up. Ran out of motivation and only just realised what I needed to do to get the windows up today(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/9528a29b0227d4c2f02a0daafeef7bc8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:53:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:53:09 PM
Naturally on the drivers side mazda use different wires so the green and red puts the window up.
White and red puts the window down(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/a23cf01cb6b4a79b4e027c42e84cafce.jpg)
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so the green and red puts the window up.White and red puts the window down(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/a23cf01cb6b4a79b4e027c42e84cafce.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:04 PM
Red and green on the passenger side puts the passenger window down(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/44a2353f03f49b8208305b0e96990e62.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:33 PM
Drivers window up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200424/e8f23df8304b5a400ef7826b39f854d4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:54:59 PM
I can now blast the car with the jet wash without soaking the inside
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:56:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 02:56:44 PM
I have no idea whether to get rid if the windows or keep them? At least now I know how to wire them up so I can still use the electric windows, I also kept the centre console so I actually have the window switches
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:32:50 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:32:50 PM
Drag car...lexan.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:13 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:13 PM
Drag car...lexan.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:15 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:15 PM
Drag car...lexan.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
Not sure what happen there lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:57:09 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 24, 2020, 06:57:09 PM
Stutter ??
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 06:58:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:33:39 PMHahahaha triple post
Not sure what happen there lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 24, 2020, 06:32:50 PMProbably safer, would have to use some metal support to stop it flopping around. I really would like to have a removable hardtop instead of the soft top
Drag car...lexan.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
Got my post count up...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: boosted on April 24, 2020, 07:04:41 PM
Yep nows the time summer there cheaper.. junk it!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 07:24:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2020, 07:24:30 PM
http://www.mx5city.com/hardtop-mk3-mk35
NOT at these prices
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 06:46:05 AM
Post by: boosted on April 25, 2020, 06:46:05 AM
Look on facebook Grant. Prices so much cheaper.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 25, 2020, 05:01:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 25, 2020, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 25, 2020, 06:46:05 AMFound some on ebay for 400, tbh thays still too much. I want one without the glass in as iv got something planned in my head for mounting a rear wing
Look on facebook Grant. Prices so much cheaper.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Decided to alter the wiring harness for the engine/ecu today as I had an ignition loom made up to use 4 individual smart coils. Checked my emails and I got this 7 years ago
These 4 wire hangining out are the old wires from the ignition in the harness, I have no idea where the other ends are, I'm simply leaving them in as I'm nit pulling the harness in bits to removed them (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/cd91754eb306d381d832b330bcb55743.jpg)
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These 4 wire hangining out are the old wires from the ignition in the harness, I have no idea where the other ends are, I'm simply leaving them in as I'm nit pulling the harness in bits to removed them (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/cd91754eb306d381d832b330bcb55743.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:18:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:18:53 PM
The 4 red wires in the plug are for the new ignition signal wires(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/4e6acae0487e798445f44fb6995a8c05.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:20:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:20:09 PM
The smart coils require a direct feed from the battery, had them give me about 4 metres of cable in the harness so I can mount the battery in a good location.
Has a relay and fuse(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/8aa7b3a59654c8ce2b558d84d2c20d59.jpg)
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Has a relay and fuse(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/8aa7b3a59654c8ce2b558d84d2c20d59.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:21:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:21:01 PM
Labelled up nice so I know where to put the wires with crimp rings on(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/b32d4fd49e1ad3c29b044235341b11e6.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:23:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:23:11 PM
Coil plug wires marked up nicely for me, leading 1, leading 2
Trailing 1 and trailing 2
1 is the front rotor
2 is the rear rotor
Each rotor also has it own ground, without this ground on the designated rotor housing the coils won't work from what I remember(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/12ef8d538be6c3c0189d4b3f72ad5981.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/60c99fa778709cdada0fc1c65e342757.jpg)
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Trailing 1 and trailing 2
1 is the front rotor
2 is the rear rotor
Each rotor also has it own ground, without this ground on the designated rotor housing the coils won't work from what I remember(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/12ef8d538be6c3c0189d4b3f72ad5981.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/60c99fa778709cdada0fc1c65e342757.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
Relays for everything, labelled up so self explanatory. Also got the fuses.
I will have to mount all these on something but no where near that at the moment.
Need to buy some AEM smart coils as sold mine to Clive a while back, and also some plug wires to make up leads, also need some spark plugs.... Those bits on their own are probably best part of £600, which once I'm back at work I shall be purchasing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/efb703f681f22bed2d769dbf408afe01.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/ad2105642004a36da08c6d5cca2b1ee1.jpg)
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I will have to mount all these on something but no where near that at the moment.
Need to buy some AEM smart coils as sold mine to Clive a while back, and also some plug wires to make up leads, also need some spark plugs.... Those bits on their own are probably best part of £600, which once I'm back at work I shall be purchasing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/efb703f681f22bed2d769dbf408afe01.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/ad2105642004a36da08c6d5cca2b1ee1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 26, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
Rest of the harness, not much too it really compared to what I pulled off this car, basically injectors, temp sensors, Crank position sensor, there's a huge amount of extra wiring which I think can be used for anything you need, which for me will be pressure sensors, oil and boost, and I think this Ecu can do PWM which I will use on the water injection kit iv got.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:07:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:07:01 PM
Just sitting in my kirkey racing seat..... Think I may be just a tad to muscular for it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
Your bones have grown Grant...its a fact as you get older they grow a few kg a years especially in the belly region.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:15:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:15:43 PM
It's tiiight. Had a look at how much this bad boy is worth brand new.... Not cheap
I got it for a right baragin(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/9a706873f95264e59c1c7e2079e82b26.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:18:09 PM
Seat and the cover is what Iv got(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/180b61e1143865e3cd8e837685f5bea9.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2020, 05:29:43 PM
Post by: boosted on April 28, 2020, 05:29:43 PM
Ive never sat in 1...prop like my grp shell seat in Westy...looks incredibly uncomfortable but actually rather nice.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 05:35:25 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 05:35:25 PM
They ain’t bad Jon even without the covers/padding.
I’m sure I’d change my tune after a few laps, pots holes or speed bumps
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:39:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:39:08 PM
Iv been sat in it for 20 mins, quite comfy really, the angle back is just perfect too, going to see if I can use the seat rails for the mx5 with this seat so I can move the seat backwards and forwards rather than having it in a fixed position, means someone else shorter or taller could have a go in it them
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:40:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:40:26 PM
I paid 150quid for the seat and covers by the way, guy from Scotland sold it to me years ago and just last year he messaged me asking if I would sell it back too him
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 05:45:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:40:26 PMBargain !!
I paid 150quid for the seat and covers by the way, guy from Scotland sold it to me years ago and just last year he messaged me asking if I would sell it back too him
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
Post by: clive on April 28, 2020, 07:00:18 PM
Good buy, they are going to stop you wobbling about :13:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
Quote from: clive on April 28, 2020, 07:00:18 PMIt's a tight fit, I don't know what size it is but I could always bend the side pieces out a little to giv me another inch breathing room. Only downer is that it's not got the head restraint things but it will do
Good buy, they are going to stop you wobbling about :13:
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
Iv just tried downloading the haltech software and firmware on the laptop iv just bought.... No longer works on Windows 10 64bit
Looks like I'm going to have to look for something else more modern
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 02:01:19 PM
Or an older laptop...did you download a virtual serial port to comport adaptor...could be that?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 02:01:19 PMNo on the haltech website where you download the software it says it won't work with 64bit, I'm not great with that stuff, means nothing to me, might have to get old laptop out of the loft to use it, hopefully that ones not 64 bit.
Or an older laptop...did you download a virtual serial port to comport adaptor...could be that?
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Tbh I am thinking of a new ecu, just makes things easier, I can literally order one with all the sensors and a 6 second tune up already loaded onto he ecu for about 1500 quid, which is a microtech LT16 but I want this ecu to be use able for the car to be used on track and not just drag strip as it will become tiresome not being able to use the car unless it's dry for drag racing lol
The haltech 1500 looks about right for an ecu to do everything you can think of
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:35:40 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:35:40 PM
Arrghh ok!! Worth a try...progress...
Cant get laptop anymore with serial ports just usbs so thought maybe that.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
The e11v2 comes with vga to connect too, I already have a vga to usb adapter.
Just had a look at the adaptronic M1200, looks good. Good price too
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Just had a look at the adaptronic M1200, looks good. Good price too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Pip at Wgt ( new name now unsure what it is).Gonna be your mapping guru for the Adaptronic...Clives winning formula has been pips mapping...(and my loom ).
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
Who cam map Haltech in UK...
Big part of decision....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
Anyone can do the mapping, plus there's plenty of Australians using them so there's map around. I know James has got one of the guys from Puerto Rico to put the map on his microtech LT32 big Bertha ecu. And he just tweaks. With the data log they send back too him
I was looking for pip on Facebook as its not WGT anymore is it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:02:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:02:46 PM
PGAutomotive is what pip is now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 04:38:10 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 04:38:10 PM
Im playing now...with me221 stuff...
i got the old software on new ecu...doh!!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:50:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 04:50:02 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 04:38:10 PMHuh?
Im playing now...with me221 stuff...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 06:00:32 PM
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 06:00:32 PM
Mx5 turbo stuff...gave me a headache...enough for today.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 29, 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Post by: clive on April 29, 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Pip at Wgt ( new name now unsure what it is).Gonna be your mapping guru for the Adaptronic...Clives winning formula has been pips mapping...(and my loom
Jon's right, Pip knows I put much of the cars success and reliability down to the map he built for the car. (obviously not forgetting the excellent Jon Race Loom :great:) Blimey he found huge 50BHP just with a map re-tweek last time up there >:D.
Amusingly a little Citroën thingy was on after me. My screen was still up and he joked with the guy that he had just found more BHP with a little tweek than the little Citroën had in total ;)
Pips number these days is 07774 442618
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 07:02:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: clive on April 29, 2020, 06:58:34 PMI will need to get an adaptronic ecu first.Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Pip at Wgt ( new name now unsure what it is).Gonna be your mapping guru for the Adaptronic...Clives winning formula has been pips mapping...(and my loom
Jon's right, Pip knows I put much of the cars success and reliability down to the map he built for the car. (obviously not forgetting the excellent Jon Race Loom :great:) Blimey he found huge 50BHP just with a map re-tweek last time up there >:D.
Amusingly a little Citroën thingy was on after me. My screen was still up and he joked with the guy that he had just found more BHP with a little tweek than the little Citroën had in total ;)
Pips number these days is 07774 442618
I'm thinking that when we're allowed back to work of sending the car to pip to get it all running. There's some stuff I cannot do myself and better off someone that knows these things to do them right in the first place
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
Just found some fd plates on ebay, 750 squids. Think I might start collecting spares lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 30, 2020, 04:41:05 PM
Post by: clive on April 30, 2020, 04:41:05 PM
If your looking for plates, it may help to know I have a brand new FD rear plate from Mazda that I have at a losing money price of £400 / which is £360 off retail ! Cant go any lower as I would just keep it as a just incase.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 08:29:41 PM
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 08:29:41 PM
oh yes, Never forget that race winning seat that served me well at high G corner.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 08:31:29 PM
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:40:26 PM
I paid 150quid for the seat and covers by the way, guy from Scotland sold it to me years ago and just last year he messaged me asking if I would sell it back too him
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oh yes, Never forget that race winning seat that served me well at high G corner.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2020, 09:41:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2020, 09:41:45 PM
Quote from: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 08:31:29 PMIf I ever change it for something else, you can have first dibs for sureQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 05:40:26 PM
I paid 150quid for the seat and covers by the way, guy from Scotland sold it to me years ago and just last year he messaged me asking if I would sell it back too him
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
Post by: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
not need it now. you can sell on whatever you like, cos I'm retried from motor racing. Enjoy your seating time.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 08:25:04 AM
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 08:25:04 AM
Quote from: RotorHeid on April 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
not need it now. you can sell on whatever you like, cos I'm retried from motor racing. Enjoy your seating time.
I'm intrigued as I'm sure Grant will be to know what the seat was bolted into, what did you race ?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 01:12:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 01:12:39 PM
I am intrigued also.
I have just had the great realisation that because I have remived all of the wiring the max5 Abs won't work will it?
So this junk will have to go
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I have just had the great realisation that because I have remived all of the wiring the max5 Abs won't work will it?
So this junk will have to go
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 01:59:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 01:59:53 PM
Gone(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/ca415e21d29e0824b6858a3e0913cb64.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:01:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:01:02 PM
Still waiting on a welder to appear out of thin air so I can get the stupid engine mounts finished and move onto something else
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
So I have 2 lines from the brake master.
Out of the Abs unit I have
Front right
Front left
Rear right
Rear left
That's 2 in, 4 out.
The 2 rear lines go through a block, I'm assuming that is some sort of proportioning valve so less pressure goes to the rear brakes?
So iv had a quick Google for removing the Abs and any thread that shows up everyone's typical answer is "why are you removing it, your going to run mothers and children over outside schools if you remove it"
Now I'm thinking that one of the outlets on the master/booster I can loop to do just the front brakes?
The second outlet I can run through the proportioning valve I have? Pipe it through and into the car so I can adjust it inside the car rather than getting in and out until I get the right balance to the rear brakes?
This is all new to me. So any advice suggestions are welcome so I have a plan to make it all right.
I'm thinking that the rear lines get T'd together run through the valve and then back to the master/booster?
Front brakes get T'd also but no valve?
The stock brakes are going to perform better as I have taken at least 100kg out of this car.
I think the Abs unit weight at least 2kg on its own
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Out of the Abs unit I have
Front right
Front left
Rear right
Rear left
That's 2 in, 4 out.
The 2 rear lines go through a block, I'm assuming that is some sort of proportioning valve so less pressure goes to the rear brakes?
So iv had a quick Google for removing the Abs and any thread that shows up everyone's typical answer is "why are you removing it, your going to run mothers and children over outside schools if you remove it"
Now I'm thinking that one of the outlets on the master/booster I can loop to do just the front brakes?
The second outlet I can run through the proportioning valve I have? Pipe it through and into the car so I can adjust it inside the car rather than getting in and out until I get the right balance to the rear brakes?
This is all new to me. So any advice suggestions are welcome so I have a plan to make it all right.
I'm thinking that the rear lines get T'd together run through the valve and then back to the master/booster?
Front brakes get T'd also but no valve?
The stock brakes are going to perform better as I have taken at least 100kg out of this car.
I think the Abs unit weight at least 2kg on its own
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
Iv got one of these somewhere(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/150f89d6a5c337a2b63f9ded39efce6b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
The system is the same as rx8 so lookvat the the rx8 techie manual on here...plus Pauls the man on the mx5/rx8..hopefully he will be along to offer wisdom!
Without abs an mot is gonnz be ackward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 02:45:21 PM
Post by: clive on May 01, 2020, 02:45:21 PM
The race car is plumbed how you will need yours plumbed with no ABS in the system. I have this valve on the link below just controling the rears. I will have to go over to the workshop next week to get 2 new engines sent out so I will take some pictures
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mx5-90-05-wilwood-brake-bias-proportioning-valve-2674-p.asp
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mx5-90-05-wilwood-brake-bias-proportioning-valve-2674-p.asp
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:15:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 01, 2020, 02:43:16 PMIt's got a rotary in it and won't pass emissions anyway
The system is the same as rx8 so lookvat the the rx8 techie manual on here...plus Pauls the man on the mx5/rx8..hopefully he will be along to offer wisdom!
Without abs an mot is gonnz be ackward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:16:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: clive on May 01, 2020, 02:45:21 PMThanks Clive
The race car is plumbed how you will need yours plumbed with no ABS in the system. I have this valve on the link below just controling the rears. I will have to go over to the workshop next week to get 2 new engines sent out so I will take some pictures
https://www.racingbeateurope.com/mx5-90-05-wilwood-brake-bias-proportioning-valve-2674-p.asp
Does anyone know what has happened to Haywards rotary? Has he packed up completely or started a different place up?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:23:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 03:23:40 PM
Just managed to find mine I have had this for about 10 years(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/92d964bed94080c59428ec8d44b68296.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on May 01, 2020, 06:22:30 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on May 01, 2020, 06:22:30 PM
2010 onwards needs to have ABS installed or its automatic mot fail. How do you anticipate running a speedo?
The ABS basically works as the brake bias valve. Electronic brake distribution they call it. EBD (?)
you are best linking the rear lines with a Tee piece and have the brake bias valve before the tee piece. I used to run this on my 205 gti without trouble.
I'll take a pic of the brake unions you'll need.
Sorry life has been a bit shit at the moment. Not had chance to get on here.
Haywards is still going I believe. Website is closed. Do you need his number?
The ABS basically works as the brake bias valve. Electronic brake distribution they call it. EBD (?)
you are best linking the rear lines with a Tee piece and have the brake bias valve before the tee piece. I used to run this on my 205 gti without trouble.
I'll take a pic of the brake unions you'll need.
Sorry life has been a bit shit at the moment. Not had chance to get on here.
Haywards is still going I believe. Website is closed. Do you need his number?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on May 01, 2020, 06:25:42 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on May 01, 2020, 06:25:42 PM
Mot rules (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/d96c0073fd9ade7e42c611adf681da06.jpg)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
Nice 1 Paul! Itsa blimin minefield. My civic track car has the air bags removed but fully caged...its a 2001 . It passed as there was a not an airbag light on...
I kept my mouth shut! But obvious not fitted.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 07:35:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2020, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on May 01, 2020, 06:22:30 PMNice one. Needles to say this car won't be going on the road. If it does in think I know a guy
2010 onwards needs to have ABS installed or its automatic mot fail. How do you anticipate running a speedo?
The ABS basically works as the brake bias valve. Electronic brake distribution they call it. EBD (?)
you are best linking the rear lines with a Tee piece and have the brake bias valve before the tee piece. I used to run this on my 205 gti without trouble.
I'll take a pic of the brake unions you'll need.
Sorry life has been a bit shit at the moment. Not had chance to get on here.
Haywards is still going I believe. Website is closed. Do you need his number?
or just bolt the Abs unit in place and have some wires hanging out so technically the car "has" Abs lolDon't need Carl's number, it just says permanently closed when you Google Haywards rotary that's all so thought he'd packed up or something
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
Iv settled on proven combo(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/bc519a40ee321a1a9140c5204d4601f0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:20:25 PM
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:20:25 PM
Nice package...is that USA or Oz money?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
Seen the oz flag now!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:23:06 PM
Post by: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:23:06 PM
So 3500 ozy dollar is £1800....not bad at all...alot of hardware for the dosh.
Do you know anyone in OZ to try and beat the import duty....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 12:43:44 PM
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 12:43:44 PM
Thats actually very cheap
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 02:00:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: boosted on May 02, 2020, 12:23:06 PMJames has said they will mark the price down to sort import. Duty anyway, although I do have some relatives in Australia though
So 3500 ozy dollar is £1800....not bad at all...alot of hardware for the dosh.
Do you know anyone in OZ to try and beat the import duty....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 03:39:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 03:39:46 PM
Well I think an mx5 is made to fit an intercooler behind the front bumper, fits perfect(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/e9e6a8eead4480eb8378b25952c926a5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 04:45:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 04:45:46 PM
Stolen my. Dad's welder and had a 5 min lesson on how to MIG weld.
Hopefully it wont rain tomorrow and I can make those brackets
Decided to give my LIM and UIM a clean with some wire brushes and the jet wash, iv put them in the parts washer aka the dishwasher to try get remaining bits of gunk off as going to get a tin of spray paint to tart them up a little bit as I'm sick of them looking horrible
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Hopefully it wont rain tomorrow and I can make those brackets
Decided to give my LIM and UIM a clean with some wire brushes and the jet wash, iv put them in the parts washer aka the dishwasher to try get remaining bits of gunk off as going to get a tin of spray paint to tart them up a little bit as I'm sick of them looking horrible
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
Can't upload pictures for some reason
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 05:56:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 05:56:43 PM
New Injector testing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/2bdd7bb8f407588efa9ba9d7ffbbea17.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 06:40:03 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 06:40:03 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 05:56:43 PMI think that bit is flowing well
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 07:21:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 07:21:28 PM
Well the parts/dish washer has worked a treat, even after I jet washed them they were still full of gunk. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/e0b150029d9cf58ae45e1691d6b10d7d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/ef300dd05ba6fc447c4ab0f305ac5f56.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/c263c32fe45ea9603ee83fb5177fa055.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/540d1bb4f37430521b5b0fc6866d4756.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/50b8f282daccf0995f5b929cd4e20598.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/e91e5fd492f1f9c471f02eee30ab20aa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/3ded04f77fddfead30d4f2808f46a690.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 07:24:37 PM
I have also just realised where the EGR goes on the LIM, that bits still gunked up.
Iv got some aluminium laying around so will make some block off plates and get them welded too the all the ports that I no longer need
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Iv got some aluminium laying around so will make some block off plates and get them welded too the all the ports that I no longer need
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2020, 06:02:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2020, 06:02:31 PM
Antone know how the fc CAS works and with it spins on? I'm putting this on my car as the drag guys all use these(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200515/0d7cf8061098b99d494b503d16872262.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 08:57:18 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 08:57:18 AM
Figured it out, CAS drive gear.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
Right had enough of that stupid cross member piece in my way in the engine bay cut it out, drilled the spot welds and then just cut it with the hacksaw. Can't see it being that structural as I cut through it with a hacksaw in 5 second.
I will put something back after all important engine bits are finalised(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/c368311c61031369fe14c2e22f32a683.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/134e682a17e61de8149f7a3a2b2d5bd1.jpg)
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I will put something back after all important engine bits are finalised(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/c368311c61031369fe14c2e22f32a683.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/134e682a17e61de8149f7a3a2b2d5bd1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:11:58 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:11:58 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:37:57 PMLooks similar to the 8 one
Right had enough of that stupid cross member piece in my way in the engine bay cut it out, drilled the spot welds and then just cut it with the hacksaw. Can't see it being that structural as I cut through it with a hacksaw in 5 second.
I will put something back after all important engine bits are finalised(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/c368311c61031369fe14c2e22f32a683.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/134e682a17e61de8149f7a3a2b2d5bd1.jpg)
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I think it is structural but also a huge benefit for earthing and pipe / oil cooler fittings
Mine will eventually come out as it hampering IC pipe work and will be replaced slightly further forward with some thing a bit bigger / thicker .
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on May 16, 2020, 04:18:52 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on May 16, 2020, 04:18:52 PM
Serves as an earthing point and battery /air box mount. About it really
Same as the 8
Same as the 8
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:27:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:27:32 PM
Oh yeah
And them too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
It's just in. The way of. Me standing in the engine bay mainly
Chassis will be stuffer when rook cage goes in anyway
I'm sure the subframe is the most cross structural piece at the front anyway
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Chassis will be stuffer when rook cage goes in anyway
I'm sure the subframe is the most cross structural piece at the front anyway
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 09:11:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 09:11:29 PM
Big question
Is grant going to change his mind and put and FD engine ?
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Is grant going to change his mind and put and FD engine ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 09:57:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 09:57:48 PM
I'm going to collect parts and build a motor that will make a lot more hp, balanced, lightened, clearence, larger studs, scalloped rotors, semi pp.
All the good stuff bolts uo to the fd or the cosmo plates, intake manifolds and stuff etc
This FC engine I'm hoping to achieve 600hp I'm going to need more turbo though to achieve it easier
Wish I had looked into rew swapping the rx8 when I had my rx8, could have kept it and had 509hp family car
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All the good stuff bolts uo to the fd or the cosmo plates, intake manifolds and stuff etc
This FC engine I'm hoping to achieve 600hp I'm going to need more turbo though to achieve it easier
Wish I had looked into rew swapping the rx8 when I had my rx8, could have kept it and had 509hp family car
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 18, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 18, 2020, 02:13:57 PM
Engine brackets are done. Had a total of maybe 30 mins experience welding so excuse some of the bird poop.
Think the wire feed was too Hugh in certain bits and also definately too many amps in others but overall not the worst.
Should have cleaned the metal up better but who cares. When the cage gets done I'm going to ask the fab guys to sort the mounts out properly, cut the subframe up etc to make it easier for them and easier to remove the mounts because they don't come out very easy.
Just need some money now, hopefully going back to work soon so can start buying more bits I need.
Greddy elbow
Fuel rails
3" 90 aluminium pipe
V band clamps/vibrant clamps to make getting boost pipes off easier
Small Honda radiator
Methanol fuel cell
Fuel pump (prety sure I'm going to have to get a mechanical one)
Fuel lined - 10AN
Oil cooler (got one already but its not big enough)
Microtech ECI
M&W ignition
Bosch coils
8x 2200cc bosch injectors
Susoension
Wheels
And tyres
Most likely need to swap out the rear end as it will break
Hell of a list and I don't think iv even got it all(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/84f7b99cae59b4fc7101404844f3f8e4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/fc679b68dde348f4bab01c329c8238a6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/acc44c28a802307ac0e12559228da3b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/a24373a1ae8ce603b7e469cef6b67d5d.jpg)
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Think the wire feed was too Hugh in certain bits and also definately too many amps in others but overall not the worst.
Should have cleaned the metal up better but who cares. When the cage gets done I'm going to ask the fab guys to sort the mounts out properly, cut the subframe up etc to make it easier for them and easier to remove the mounts because they don't come out very easy.
Just need some money now, hopefully going back to work soon so can start buying more bits I need.
Greddy elbow
Fuel rails
3" 90 aluminium pipe
V band clamps/vibrant clamps to make getting boost pipes off easier
Small Honda radiator
Methanol fuel cell
Fuel pump (prety sure I'm going to have to get a mechanical one)
Fuel lined - 10AN
Oil cooler (got one already but its not big enough)
Microtech ECI
M&W ignition
Bosch coils
8x 2200cc bosch injectors
Susoension
Wheels
And tyres
Most likely need to swap out the rear end as it will break
Hell of a list and I don't think iv even got it all(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/84f7b99cae59b4fc7101404844f3f8e4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/fc679b68dde348f4bab01c329c8238a6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/acc44c28a802307ac0e12559228da3b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200518/a24373a1ae8ce603b7e469cef6b67d5d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 18, 2020, 05:02:20 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 18, 2020, 05:02:20 PM
That welding ain’t bad for first attempt , mine is still much much worse . All I was told was make sure the faces get hot enough to absorb the weld
Give them a good wallop with a hammer
If they don’t fall apart they are good for a pattern
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Give them a good wallop with a hammer
If they don’t fall apart they are good for a pattern
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 18, 2020, 05:46:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 18, 2020, 05:46:31 PM
Using C02 for gas too instead of argon because argon is just too expensive to waste on my welding skills so there is more spatter and stuff
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 19, 2020, 11:14:11 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 19, 2020, 11:14:11 AM
Swapped the front cover overhad to make a pulley holder and use a 3 ft bar on a 2 foot wrench. Found out through searching the Web, these front nuts are torque to 200lbft that's just stupid
Many people put them back on with just 90lbft and use a dab of red locktight
Side mount alternator fits better but it's still really tight! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200519/922dfcb76ae141b062b0bc50d3a69fac.jpg)
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had to make a pulley holder and use a 3 ft bar on a 2 foot wrench. Found out through searching the Web, these front nuts are torque to 200lbft that's just stupidMany people put them back on with just 90lbft and use a dab of red locktight
Side mount alternator fits better but it's still really tight! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200519/922dfcb76ae141b062b0bc50d3a69fac.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on May 28, 2020, 08:50:42 AM
Post by: re japi on May 28, 2020, 08:50:42 AM
Weird thing, this show that theres unseen posts, but I cant see anything postted since 19th day
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 28, 2020, 10:36:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 28, 2020, 10:36:38 AM
I think tappatalk has been a bit weird last couple of weeks, it's been struggling to load pages and stuff. If you can see the last picture of the engine japi then that's the latest one.
Dropped my turbo manifold off for welding. Should be picking it up friday/Saturday.
Getting a T6 divided flange on it, and I have order a T6 to T4 adapter, this way I don't have to change it when I change turbos for a big one, plus it will lift the turbo a little but higher which gives me some wiggle room for the down pipe
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Dropped my turbo manifold off for welding. Should be picking it up friday/Saturday.
Getting a T6 divided flange on it, and I have order a T6 to T4 adapter, this way I don't have to change it when I change turbos for a big one, plus it will lift the turbo a little but higher which gives me some wiggle room for the down pipe
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2020, 08:40:20 PM
Got myself one of these bad boys, still need one more I think. Got it for £80, supposed to be 120
Just found which fuel pressure regulator I need for methanol and mechanical fuel pump, so iv got an aeromotive one with gauge going spare if anyone looking needs one(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/c9cd3af48cf81fbc40788baf07da3770.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/ff173821efb836c255268af58667de4f.jpg)
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Just found which fuel pressure regulator I need for methanol and mechanical fuel pump, so iv got an aeromotive one with gauge going spare if anyone looking needs one(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/c9cd3af48cf81fbc40788baf07da3770.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/ff173821efb836c255268af58667de4f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:21:09 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 30, 2020, 09:21:09 PM
Looks good
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2020, 09:54:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 30, 2020, 09:54:32 PM
Got a greddy elbow coming too as a lad has just messaged me saying he has one and I've just ordered at 3" aluminium 90 also so the iv probably got all the bits sorted for the intake
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2020, 03:57:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 05, 2020, 03:57:38 PM
Just need my turbo manifold back from being welded then I can get this intake buttoned up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200605/f1e2dc4e700d79ad62f3db3d92856a2e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200605/edf95c47a2f23210bc6b572f61d8a0b3.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 05, 2020, 04:16:30 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 05, 2020, 04:16:30 PM
Good progress
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on June 06, 2020, 03:19:03 PM
Post by: clive on June 06, 2020, 03:19:03 PM
Getting there :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 06, 2020, 03:28:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 06, 2020, 03:28:21 PM
Piece by piece
Can't see there being any rush needed to get it running this year due to the current situation so spend money slowly as work picks up
Currently deciding what colours to paint the engine.... As it's got to look good. I'm thinking red and blue, with a dash of white somewhere as that covers bristush flag colours, American colours and Puerto rican
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Can't see there being any rush needed to get it running this year due to the current situation so spend money slowly as work picks up
Currently deciding what colours to paint the engine.... As it's got to look good. I'm thinking red and blue, with a dash of white somewhere as that covers bristush flag colours, American colours and Puerto rican
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
Oops cut a hole in my turbine housing... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/c5af101857d53dddfe8724b730bc9b65.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
First test piece to be welded too the housing.. Already thinking I might have cut it too short but we shall see once I start shaping it down to fit(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/e6b657b2425d0de366608f099c2d7eef.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:12:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:12:24 PM
How it will sort of look when done.
If it doesn't work Out I will just get a new turbine housing and then mount the waste gate on the manifold like normal. People do(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/aecfa19818ceeb5eef82f08fee57324a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/51fd98cbf9881398a1a443e6092eec4e.jpg)
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If it doesn't work Out I will just get a new turbine housing and then mount the waste gate on the manifold like normal. People do
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 07, 2020, 07:18:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 07, 2020, 07:18:32 PM
Beyond me
Very clever
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:40:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 07, 2020, 07:18:32 PMMounting the wastage on the turbine housing is the most efficient place to mount it from the information I have found.
Beyond me
Very clever
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OEM manufacturers do it on their turbos, most likely due to packaging constraints but also for efficiency as you can run a smaller WG
The Borgwarner EFR turbos have internal WG too and work well on rotaries I think.
I could have maybe used the smaller 48 WG but iv had this 60mm Tial for years, and bigger is better right
Having the WG on the turbo makes it more serviceable too instead of hidden down low
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2020, 09:52:19 PM
Post by: boosted on June 07, 2020, 09:52:19 PM
Thats awesome...no boost creep with that WG!!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 10:36:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 07, 2020, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 07, 2020, 09:52:19 PMHopefully not.
Thats awesome...no boost creep with that WG!!
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Need to do some searching, see what kind of boost a stock block C as n take... Hopefully 20-25psi at least
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on June 08, 2020, 08:49:03 AM
Post by: clive on June 08, 2020, 08:49:03 AM
Very trick, I will be interested to see how this works, hopefully it wont cause any issues.
100% Not a criticism just an observation, flow wise if this causes issues, if it were me, I would have put it as close to under the flange as possible.
You probably know this but if you have a problem you can have the piece welded back in by using cast iron ark welding rods, so you wont junk the housing that way.
Like I said hopefully it wont cause any issues and its really great to see you getting on with the car :great:
100% Not a criticism just an observation, flow wise if this causes issues, if it were me, I would have put it as close to under the flange as possible.
You probably know this but if you have a problem you can have the piece welded back in by using cast iron ark welding rods, so you wont junk the housing that way.
Like I said hopefully it wont cause any issues and its really great to see you getting on with the car :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2020, 10:05:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 08, 2020, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: clive on June 08, 2020, 08:49:03 AMI would just buy a new housing rather than welding it.
Very trick, I will be interested to see how this works, hopefully it wont cause any issues.
100% Not a criticism just an observation, flow wise if this causes issues, if it were me, I would have put it as close to under the flange as possible.
You probably know this but if you have a problem you can have the piece welded back in by using cast iron ark welding rods, so you wont junk the housing that way.
Like I said hopefully it wont cause any issues and its really great to see you getting on with the car :great:
Possiblity that the rear housing is too small BUT as the engine isn't fully balanced clearence etc then I don't want to be revving it really high so spool up the turbo sooner
And.... I will be getting a bigger turbo simply because a bigger turbo shifts more air for the same psi so more hp for the same amount of boost in theory. Looking at s480 for the future but no point paying for a turbo when I have a turbo sat here ready
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on June 08, 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on June 08, 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Awesome
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Post by: Paul_13 on June 08, 2020, 09:07:07 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on June 08, 2020, 09:07:07 PM
Any chance you could take a photo of the mx5 undershields please.
My dad put this car back together and I have massive gaps either side of the radiator, I'm certain he put the undershields on wrong
EDIT no wonder they don't fit. The one fitted to the car is a mx5 nb/na
My dad put this car back together and I have massive gaps either side of the radiator, I'm certain he put the undershields on wrong
EDIT no wonder they don't fit. The one fitted to the car is a mx5 nb/na
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
Managed to get AGTHAB into my garage, push it to the bottom of the drive and then used my dad's car to push it up the drive into the garage.
Waiting on a flange coming from the states which is stuck at the post office waiting for me to pay customs charges but I haven't recieved a charge in the post for me to pay it
literally been sat at the post office since the 10th but iv had no customs charge letter
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Waiting on a flange coming from the states which is stuck at the post office waiting for me to pay customs charges but I haven't recieved a charge in the post for me to pay it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 12:26:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 12:26:05 PM
Interesting view of inside the turbine housing to see how the gases flow onto the turbine wheel(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200620/9ce594486cceee90402a5173a36c38ac.jpg)http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5eedf248b73d2/VID_20200620_113628.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5eedf248b73d2/VID_20200620_113628.mp4)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 20, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 12:06:40 PMI know that feeling
Managed to get AGTHAB into my garage, push it to the bottom of the drive and then used my dad's car to push it up the drive into the garage.
Waiting on a flange coming from the states which is stuck at the post office waiting for me to pay customs charges but I haven't recieved a charge in the post for me to pay it
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Mine bits are stuck in Coventry and I’m waiting for payment details
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 20, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
It's really frustrating because I can't do anything to get it and if they send it back it will go back to America
On the plus side iv just ordered some stainless bends and a straight 3 inch piece for the exhaust, so I can do that once iv got this flange too.
Intake and exhaust will be completed then time to move onto radiator, oil cooler and fuel cell mounting
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On the plus side iv just ordered some stainless bends and a straight 3 inch piece for the exhaust, so I can do that once iv got this flange too.
Intake and exhaust will be completed then time to move onto radiator, oil cooler and fuel cell mounting
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 02:54:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 02:54:46 PM
Currently sat in my car waiting for the turbo manifold flange to turn up as I managed to locate and pay for the import duty(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200627/3a67fb634774d72e703df3886a6db6fb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
Removed all the remaining wiring from behind the dash and half of the sound deadening(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200627/4c5395c5d65b3852e68e1701aae29a99.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 03:00:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2020, 03:00:50 PM
I put the dash "spine/skeleton" back in as it's been moved so many times out of my way it was starting to annoy me. And then put the dash panel back on. All held in with just 10 screws instead of the 6,347 I took out to get it out in the first place
Glad I kept the spine as the dash would have been all floppy and looked crap
Have thrown my switch panel in too to see what it looked like, although there's probably only going to be the starter and water pump on the switch panel, I will have to think of some other stuff to use the switches for?? Arming nitrous maybe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200627/e6b785a41f3cba6a08e005c5fda416d0.jpg)
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Glad I kept the spine as the dash would have been all floppy and looked crap
Have thrown my switch panel in too to see what it looked like, although there's probably only going to be the starter and water pump on the switch panel, I will have to think of some other stuff to use the switches for?? Arming nitrous maybe
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 06:09:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 06:09:42 PM
Purchased on the 24th of May, delivered on 2nd of July...
Good old parcelfarce.
Had to track down the parcel, speak to different people to get the custom charge number because they hadn't sent me one in the post, ring up and try pay the charge 3 times but the automated phone service doesn't work.
Tried paying online 5 times until it went through.
Paid for delivery to be delivered last Saturday for an extra £12. Didn't turn up.
Rang them again Wednesday at parcel farce, who then messaged the Rotherham depot where it has been for nearly a month to get them to deliver it....
Taken longer to deliver it 40 miles than it did to travel from the US to the UK(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/d9834d6973f9775aa4520d5264f56c70.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/a05b7058ee315053c713134890723974.jpg)
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Good old parcelfarce.
Had to track down the parcel, speak to different people to get the custom charge number because they hadn't sent me one in the post, ring up and try pay the charge 3 times but the automated phone service doesn't work.
Tried paying online 5 times until it went through.
Paid for delivery to be delivered last Saturday for an extra £12. Didn't turn up.
Rang them again Wednesday at parcel farce, who then messaged the Rotherham depot where it has been for nearly a month to get them to deliver it....
Taken longer to deliver it 40 miles than it did to travel from the US to the UK
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
Its nice though!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:12:00 PM
I like that switch panel...gotta a close up piccy?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 06:37:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 06:37:06 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:12:00 PMWill do one shortly for you. I bought it years ago.
I like that switch panel...gotta a close up piccy?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
Cheers.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 08:57:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 03, 2020, 06:46:52 PMHe ya go. Its quite a decent little thing. Think it might have been 100 quid when I bought it
Cheers.
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Doesn't come with fuses, or if it did iv lost them
I remember mainly getting it because it has the push button to start(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/5b7867b89427be75e04cebe41869f33e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/4a14b40dbf71bae91a488f7bffef3c97.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/725876db616afdeae1093ac6d13dccb3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/9bb10f56a20d18e6c202451f02267f39.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 09:02:32 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 09:02:32 PM
Yeah like that..never seen b4.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
There was a lad on the fduk forum years ago that built a green 20B rx7 that he called kermit and he used one of these on his build
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 10:09:52 PM
Post by: boosted on July 03, 2020, 10:09:52 PM
I remember Kermit..it went into the barriers at Tower corner at combe on Japfest day years ago...what ever happened to it?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 11:26:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 03, 2020, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 03, 2020, 10:09:52 PMI don't know, when he crashed it was down to one of the bolts on a brake caliper falling out and the caliper falling off from what I can remember. Not too long after that I stopped going on fduk
I remember Kermit..it went into the barriers at Tower corner at combe on Japfest day years ago...what ever happened to it?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:32:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:32:32 PM
Well because I can't weld and don't have a tig welder, tape will have to do...
But at least I've got the bits cut ready to be glued together. Going to ring my friend to come do it when he can(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/22c9814445d79bf3559e1b0294373435.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/0be3a2391b4385f6dd6950ca595198a1.jpg)
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But at least I've got the bits cut ready to be glued together. Going to ring my friend to come do it when he can(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/22c9814445d79bf3559e1b0294373435.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/0be3a2391b4385f6dd6950ca595198a1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:35:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:35:15 PM
Having a quick look under the car to figure out how to get the fuel tank out.. Looks like one tank? The rx8 have 2 smaller ones don't they that feed each other?
Be interesting to see how much weight will be save going from the stock one to a 3 gallon race cell(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/bd417fa0b8e07ee6bffa67d89907f864.jpg)
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Be interesting to see how much weight will be save going from the stock one to a 3 gallon race cell(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/bd417fa0b8e07ee6bffa67d89907f864.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:37:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 06:37:10 PM
Can anyone explain why the rear ARB is so tiny
For me to get the IRS to work and go straight on the drag strip it's going to need some beefy ARB literally an inch thick but by the looks of it won't be too difficult to get it to work with where the ARB sit currently(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/0503c3f66ffe501beb89d2a0f12eaa55.jpg)
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For me to get the IRS to work and go straight on the drag strip it's going to need some beefy ARB literally an inch thick but by the looks of it won't be too difficult to get it to work with where the ARB sit currently
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on July 09, 2020, 08:23:06 PM
Post by: clive on July 09, 2020, 08:23:06 PM
Grant, real puzzled by the post because when going in a straght line the anti roll bar does nothing, it just goes up n down with the suspension
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 08:25:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 08:25:23 PM
Just for reference this is an anti roll bar on a supra that runs 6s, stick shift Independent Rear Suspension, runs straight as an arrow(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/caaded374cab1ec967b665745093fda5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 08:35:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: clive on July 09, 2020, 08:23:06 PMWhen the car squats with IRS they don't just go up and down, the tyres, plus the car will "torque" to one side pushing one tyre in harder which will steer the car.
Grant, real puzzled by the post because when going in a straght line the anti roll bar does nothing, it just goes up n down with the suspension
There's an rx7 Len Bacon I believe owns it and his car literally drifts down the race track running 7s because of the IRS.
Cars without beefy ARBs tend to lift one of the front wheels when they launch, going up isn't going forward which means you aren't going quick as you could be
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 09:23:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 09, 2020, 09:23:28 PM
https://youtu.be/k_8s2XuLmlY
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on July 10, 2020, 08:51:53 AM
Post by: re japi on July 10, 2020, 08:51:53 AM
IRS isnt best option for going on straight line if having massive amount of power. However, it can do the job if its good. FDs for example is good, even tho it hasnt got much in travel in suspension
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 10, 2020, 11:12:45 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 10, 2020, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 10, 2020, 08:51:53 AMYep, solid axle and an auto gear makes a better consistent car but unless your piloting 3000hp it prety boring
IRS isnt best option for going on straight line if having massive amount of power. However, it can do the job if its good. FDs for example is good, even tho it hasnt got much in travel in suspension
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IRS and manual gear box means more fun and more things to learn about, clutch setup, suspension. We choose rotaries to be different, if I wanted to make things easy I would go v8 and a powerglide
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:26:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:26:01 PM
Glorious gaping hole space created today, along with some fat loss(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/d0f21f04e23ac570f17c454e9b118fa5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:26:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:26:53 PM
Carbon cannister held in with 2 screws, came off nice and easy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/8fb8642f08bccfb3bc1a634b90d36072.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:31:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:31:29 PM
1 x fuel tank out.
Internet said requires dropping of subframe.... Internet was wrong.
Unclipped hand brake cables, disconnected from hand brake.
Removed 4 x screws hold tank in.
Removed carbon cannister.
Removed 1 chassis brace that ties subframe to chassis. On the passenger side.
Disconnected fuel filler from inside the car.
Disconnected fuel pump plug and fuel pipe with use of cutters.
Wiggled fuel tank.
Moved head out of way so as to not get broken face.
Clonk, fuel tank hits floor
All completed off 2 Jack stands and 1 x trolley jack.
Took me about 1.5 hours(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/1a5502f925b594b902ee4533ca0e49e8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/d790e580ff3500e9366add860a9b88f1.jpg)
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Internet said requires dropping of subframe.... Internet was wrong.
Unclipped hand brake cables, disconnected from hand brake.
Removed 4 x screws hold tank in.
Removed carbon cannister.
Removed 1 chassis brace that ties subframe to chassis. On the passenger side.
Disconnected fuel filler from inside the car.
Disconnected fuel pump plug and fuel pipe with use of cutters.
Wiggled fuel tank.
Moved head out of way so as to not get broken face.
Clonk, fuel tank hits floor
All completed off 2 Jack stands and 1 x trolley jack.
Took me about 1.5 hours(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/1a5502f925b594b902ee4533ca0e49e8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/d790e580ff3500e9366add860a9b88f1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
Fuel tank going spare if anyone wants one. Collection only
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:38:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:38:48 PM
Just been looking at some gear vs rpm vs diff ratio to mph conversions.
This is 3.9 diff.
Unsure of what diff the mx5 currently has in it but I'm guessing a 4.1? And it is a limited slip as far as I am aware as when I spin one wheel the other stays still. If it was an open diff the other wheel would spin backwards? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/ac2be2bbbad0c3cdec7661e180ce3cce.jpg)
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This is 3.9 diff.
Unsure of what diff the mx5 currently has in it but I'm guessing a 4.1? And it is a limited slip as far as I am aware as when I spin one wheel the other stays still. If it was an open diff the other wheel would spin backwards? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/ac2be2bbbad0c3cdec7661e180ce3cce.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:42:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:42:48 PM
Here the graphs with a 4.1 diff ratio.
Need to figure all this stuff out so that when I pull the rear end out and put which ever diff back in I don't have to do it again unless I brake it.
I don't want to have to change up into 5th gear on the drag strip so I'm thinking it be better to have a 3.9 diff ratio if I'm only revving it out to 8500rpm.
IF the engine was balanced etc then I would rev it out to 10,000 which would negate chossing between the 2 diff ratios.
I deally want to be banging the rev limiter as I go over the line, also depends on how I tune the turbo size as to where it makes the peak power etc... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/6f52bf871be81c089022d0cbeff7810e.jpg)
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Need to figure all this stuff out so that when I pull the rear end out and put which ever diff back in I don't have to do it again unless I brake it.
I don't want to have to change up into 5th gear on the drag strip so I'm thinking it be better to have a 3.9 diff ratio if I'm only revving it out to 8500rpm.
IF the engine was balanced etc then I would rev it out to 10,000 which would negate chossing between the 2 diff ratios.
I deally want to be banging the rev limiter as I go over the line, also depends on how I tune the turbo size as to where it makes the peak power etc... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/6f52bf871be81c089022d0cbeff7810e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
Something interesting on mazdatrix site, the ring and pinions are listed under rx7 and rx8? Would that suggest they are the same size
Are the rx8 duffs and mx5s the same also? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/65c14d932ad94d131bfd9473bdb99b47.jpg)
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Are the rx8 duffs and mx5s the same also? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/65c14d932ad94d131bfd9473bdb99b47.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:45:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:45:19 PM
Drivers side lower control arm looks a bit bent to me, compared to the passenger side(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/39d167d28a03ed9213fa1a87116afac4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/65ae19c2316b92ba32c7496352df510c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2020, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2020, 06:15:19 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 05:44:35 PMYeah, they are
Something interesting on mazdatrix site, the ring and pinions are listed under rx7 and rx8? Would that suggest they are the same size
Are the rx8 duffs and mx5s the same also? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200713/65c14d932ad94d131bfd9473bdb99b47.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on July 13, 2020, 06:26:46 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on July 13, 2020, 06:26:46 PM
Rx8 and mx5 diffs are different size unfortunately. Rx7 and rx8 are same.
I have a 4.1 diff in mine and it suits the NA engine nicely.
For your car you'll want 3.9.i think they did a 3.7? I've got a couple of spare diffs here. I'll check the ratios of them.
That arm is definitely bent.
Rear ARB's are puny. Rx8 items are a straight swap.
If it's a 2.0 liter you've got, it will most likely be a LSD
I have a 4.1 diff in mine and it suits the NA engine nicely.
For your car you'll want 3.9.i think they did a 3.7? I've got a couple of spare diffs here. I'll check the ratios of them.
That arm is definitely bent.
Rear ARB's are puny. Rx8 items are a straight swap.
If it's a 2.0 liter you've got, it will most likely be a LSD
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 08:31:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 08:31:38 PM
It's a 1.8, from what info we can find, if it's got a leather interior 5 speed and 1.8 it has anLSD but probably beyyer to swap out for whole rx8 rear end?
I can restore it and do bushings and the do a straight swap then can't i
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I can restore it and do bushings and the do a straight swap then can't i
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 08:33:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 08:33:19 PM
Mx5 half shafts are weird to me, they thin on the ends and fat in the middle
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on July 13, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on July 13, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
The rear subframes don't swap straight over. The studs on the mx5 chassis aren't long enough.
I can't see why the rx8 diff won't swap in. The diff hanger bracket is the same on the mx5.
I can't see why the rx8 diff won't swap in. The diff hanger bracket is the same on the mx5.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 09:20:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 13, 2020, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on July 13, 2020, 08:33:31 PMGlad you've pointed that out! I was looking at buying the complete rear end from an rx8
The rear subframes don't swap straight over. The studs on the mx5 chassis aren't long enough.
I can't see why the rx8 diff won't swap in. The diff hanger bracket is the same on the mx5.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
From the sparse info I'm finding online, the diff goes in but the ppf doesn't fit, which isnt an issue because the mx5 ppf won't fit anyway due to using the fd gear box.
Going to be making my own and/or tying the gear box and the diff to the chassis and roll cage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 08:14:08 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 08:14:08 PM
Yes the PPF won't fit but as you're going custom /modified it doesn't matter
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 10:22:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 08:14:08 PMWhat ratios diff have you got lying around then? Iv been looking for info online as to ratios but everyone says different lol
Yes the PPF won't fit but as you're going custom /modified it doesn't matter
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 10:28:05 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 10:28:05 PM
I think it's a 3.9 diff. I haven't counted the teeth on the diff crown wheel.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 11:19:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2020, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on July 14, 2020, 10:28:05 PMI take it all the rx8s are LSD?
I think it's a 3.9 diff. I haven't counted the teeth on the diff crown wheel.
The 8s are an 8" compared to the 7" of the mx5.
Should be more hopeful for holding the 5-600hp I'm hoping for
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on July 15, 2020, 09:33:30 AM
Post by: Casey on July 15, 2020, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 02, 1970, 09:17:56 PMI take it all the rx8s are LSD?
That's correct Grant. Different ratios on S1 and R3 but physically interchangeable.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 15, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 15, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Casey on July 15, 2020, 09:33:30 AMThanks. I take it the R3 was the 4.44 or did it have a 4.7?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 02, 1970, 09:17:56 PMI take it all the rx8s are LSD?
That's correct Grant. Different ratios on S1 and R3 but physically interchangeable.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 15, 2020, 02:56:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 15, 2020, 02:56:06 PM
Intake pipes and flanges dropped off to be welded
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 15, 2020, 03:39:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 15, 2020, 03:39:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 15, 2020, 01:18:04 PMR3 was 4.7Quote from: Casey on July 15, 2020, 09:33:30 AMThanks. I take it the R3 was the 4.44 or did it have a 4.7?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 02, 1970, 09:17:56 PMI take it all the rx8s are LSD?
That's correct Grant. Different ratios on S1 and R3 but physically interchangeable.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 16, 2020, 01:50:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 16, 2020, 01:50:53 PM
Just realised the fuel tank has gone, there's now easy access to the diff and subframe from inside the car.
Something I remember reading years ago, think it might have been a feature on the dragon performance CamO time attack car that they tied the diff mount into the roll cage, and also the gear box so there was no need for a PPF.
Looks like something I will be able to achieve quite easily now with all that room for activities under the car(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/fec9ec863b65a201ee3d5f43cdd7b988.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/d826377873d2a2cab4d026f6ef49074b.jpg)
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Something I remember reading years ago, think it might have been a feature on the dragon performance CamO time attack car that they tied the diff mount into the roll cage, and also the gear box so there was no need for a PPF.
Looks like something I will be able to achieve quite easily now with all that room for activities under the car(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/fec9ec863b65a201ee3d5f43cdd7b988.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200716/d826377873d2a2cab4d026f6ef49074b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 10:46:08 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 10:46:08 AM
Repetitive pics but proper chuffed these buts a welder now (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200721/a790f362225be7207649624915878248.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200721/1ce93549d889852b5615b08f1bac96aa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200721/b343f48525373382bac6cab95c2768da.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 21, 2020, 10:49:28 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 21, 2020, 10:49:28 AM
That’s very neat
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 11:07:36 AM
Post by: boosted on July 21, 2020, 11:07:36 AM
Very smart..seen Rob Dahm using them..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 21, 2020, 11:07:36 AMI was going to use 2 of them but they're expensive so got that one for 80 quid bargain and the other v band was only 30 quid.
Very smart..seen Rob Dahm using them..
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The vibrants allow about 6mm of movement too which is perfect
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
Impressed - very neat indeed. Professional standard :notworthy:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 09:46:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 21, 2020, 09:46:18 PM
Got my turbo oil feed line and fitting but had to order another fitting to go into the turbo as I ordered the wrong size(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200721/18878e61f2ccb263b3360b3eb7c044e1.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on July 22, 2020, 08:52:32 AM
Post by: clive on July 22, 2020, 08:52:32 AM
Grant with the oil feed, make sure and find out if it needs a 1mm restrictor or a full flow oil feed.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:12:43 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:12:43 AM
Quote from: clive on July 22, 2020, 08:52:32 AMFrom what iv been finding it's full flow as it's a journal bearing turbo.
Grant with the oil feed, make sure and find out if it needs a 1mm restrictor or a full flow oil feed.
I he seen something that people use, a oil pressure regulator which keeps the oil flow at a consistent. Something I'm going to look into
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
https://www.waltonmotorsport.com/product/turbosmart-oil-pressure-regulator-opr-t40/?attribute_pa_colour=sleeper-all-black&gclid=CjwKCAjwx9_4BRAHEiwApAt0zkxCGJpJ3bhLYMGAJ_TIaLsqu7nAveHQ-6PJsVB5g2b-ZSRu5hRG4BoCQycQAvD_BwE
Something worth investing in for anyone using a ball bearing turbo
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Something worth investing in for anyone using a ball bearing turbo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
New slim rad, should fit in nicely (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/e1adb84e08595bdb33505324a85c10f8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/dde1dcf4283900a2abd3dce6ea1ce517.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/7c3671af54f77c3b7fe4182141ab98bf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/dc13a3b8f88472f2139201653db6505e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
Intake finished (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/66be28fd4c51832dfc0dda20e0401649.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/78a4b2260198fce8891baf282c0c4c52.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 22, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
Exhaust/downpipe/flamethrower/machinegunfireboomtube mock up.
Much easier doing the exhaust, no need for silly clamps (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/b8f7aa1f6e478f052a96acbb4b63e5f4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/016ae6b9d4e2c5186368abe22530fc5e.jpg)
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Much easier doing the exhaust, no need for silly clamps (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/b8f7aa1f6e478f052a96acbb4b63e5f4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200722/016ae6b9d4e2c5186368abe22530fc5e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
Who'd have though that this fd rx7 clutch slave cylinder(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/7379de59f987bc036d82d7f3ca12e29a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
And this mx5 nc clutch slave pipe (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/b497564ba28009edac2b459d838bbc3b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:03:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:03:24 PM
Would just work together, and then go straight into the car with just a bit of bending of pipe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200723/b395fa273f6d306281633f2306940977.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:06:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 04:06:03 PM
I just need to figure out what bits and pieces I need now to run the clutch line into the car to run the line through the clutch slipper I will be using
If anyone has any advice as to how I do the brake line as iv binned off the abs I'm all ears
Pictures would help if you could thanks
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If anyone has any advice as to how I do the brake line as iv binned off the abs I'm all ears
Pictures would help if you could thanks
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on July 23, 2020, 07:27:53 PM
Post by: clive on July 23, 2020, 07:27:53 PM
I disconnected the ABS on the race car by litterally keeping all the existing lines and using T pieces to link out the ABS.
Not sure waht the next question was, whats the clutch slipper
Not sure waht the next question was, whats the clutch slipper
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:46:09 PM
Quote from: clive on July 23, 2020, 07:27:53 PMA slipper clutch is an electronically controlled valve that allows you to dump the clutch and as long as you have ahold of the button it will slip the clutch/release the clutch pedal at certain speed, which is adjustable on the valve.
I disconnected the ABS on the race car by litterally keeping all the existing lines and using T pieces to link out the ABS.
Not sure waht the next question was, whats the clutch slipper
Then once you have launched the car you release the button which turns of the clutch slipper and also the clutch to travel as normal when you are changing through the rest of the gears
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: clive on July 23, 2020, 07:27:53 PMWhat sort of t pieces am I looking for?
I disconnected the ABS on the race car by litterally keeping all the existing lines and using T pieces to link out the ABS.
Not sure waht the next question was, whats the clutch slipper
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
https://www.grannasracing.com/products/magnus-clutch-slipper-valve-launch-control-solenoid-valve
Have a look here for the clutch slipper
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Have a look here for the clutch slipper
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2020, 10:05:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2020, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:50 PMSo special for drag racing to stop the wheel spin then
https://www.grannasracing.com/products/magnus-clutch-slipper-valve-launch-control-solenoid-valve
Have a look here for the clutch slipper
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2020, 10:05:14 PMSpecial for drag racing to stop leaving a collection of parts on the starting lineQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2020, 08:52:50 PMSo special for drag racing to stop the wheel spin then
https://www.grannasracing.com/products/magnus-clutch-slipper-valve-launch-control-solenoid-valve
Have a look here for the clutch slipper
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Slipping the clutch allows you to keep your foot on the gas, flat to the floor, and you are modulating the rate at which power is applied through the drive train via the clutch. If you are wanting to be consistent then having the clutch slip through mechanical control rather than your own foot means you can dial it in for how grippy or slick the track is.
Clutches will be burnt out faulty quickly but that's better than a smashed gear box, smashed diff or smashed drive shafts
There is a company that makes a weighted clutch that slips, but as the weights are thrown out due to it spinning the clutch then bites harder
I also need a line lock on the front brakes so I can do burnouts far easier
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AM
Never heard of that before
Sounds clever stuff
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AMI think it is too.
Never heard of that before
Sounds clever stuff
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Easiest way to slip the clutch is just use your foot but to run consistent iv got to try control things.
Achieving a 9 seconds pass is great but if I then run slower all the time because I'm not repeating the same formula whilst driving its just pointless.
I'd still run that if I had an expensive gear box because of consistency but you could be more aggressive with it....until the diff brakes
I'm quite looking forward to learning how to get all these things working together, suspension, tyres, gear box, and clutch.
A lot of people think drag racing is easy as you are just driving in a straight line but it just isn't there's the exact same amount of setup and tuning involved driving in a straight line as there is driving around a track.... That is unless you pull the front wheels off the ground when you launch a drag car, then you have no steering at all
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 06:31:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 06:31:54 PM
Just ordered some 3/16 copper brake line, brake line flaring kit and 2 x T pieces
Should sort out the clutch lines I need to run inside the car for the slipper, a line to run for the line lock for the front wheels and get the brakes all connected back up.
Not an exciting job to do, but needs doing nonetheless
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Should sort out the clutch lines I need to run inside the car for the slipper, a line to run for the line lock for the front wheels and get the brakes all connected back up.
Not an exciting job to do, but needs doing nonetheless
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 06:37:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 11:38:22 AMI have a few friends from the drag racing scene, mainly fwd corsa stuff but Christ they’re quick.Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AMI think it is too.
Never heard of that before
Sounds clever stuff
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Easiest way to slip the clutch is just use your foot but to run consistent iv got to try control things.
Achieving a 9 seconds pass is great but if I then run slower all the time because I'm not repeating the same formula whilst driving its just pointless.
I'd still run that if I had an expensive gear box because of consistency but you could be more aggressive with it....until the diff brakes
I'm quite looking forward to learning how to get all these things working together, suspension, tyres, gear box, and clutch.
A lot of people think drag racing is easy as you are just driving in a straight line but it just isn't there's the exact same amount of setup and tuning involved driving in a straight line as there is driving around a track.... That is unless you pull the front wheels off the ground when you launch a drag car, then you have no steering at all
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I went to shakeys a few times when I was into yank tanks, never competed tho.
Oh it’s certainly more than driving in a straight line. I think most competitors wish it was that easy.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 07:03:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 06:37:22 PMI used to think fwd drag cars were a joke.... Until I saw them running 8s with mph that should be of a 7 second car! The Hondas that run in the fwd are making huge power, think there's a couple making 1200hpQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 11:38:22 AMI have a few friends from the drag racing scene, mainly fwd corsa stuff but Christ they’re quick.Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AMI think it is too.
Never heard of that before
Sounds clever stuff
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Easiest way to slip the clutch is just use your foot but to run consistent iv got to try control things.
Achieving a 9 seconds pass is great but if I then run slower all the time because I'm not repeating the same formula whilst driving its just pointless.
I'd still run that if I had an expensive gear box because of consistency but you could be more aggressive with it....until the diff brakes
I'm quite looking forward to learning how to get all these things working together, suspension, tyres, gear box, and clutch.
A lot of people think drag racing is easy as you are just driving in a straight line but it just isn't there's the exact same amount of setup and tuning involved driving in a straight line as there is driving around a track.... That is unless you pull the front wheels off the ground when you launch a drag car, then you have no steering at all
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I went to shakeys a few times when I was into yank tanks, never competed tho.
Oh it’s certainly more than driving in a straight line. I think most competitors wish it was that easy.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Torque steer must be horrendous even with the best automatic torque biasing diffs
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 07:46:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 07:46:14 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 07:28:10 PMIv no idea what they do but it must be magic stuff to make it go straight. Impressive power, speed and times but it's still fwd drag car
Torque steer must be horrendous even with the best automatic torque biasing diffs
No one has ever seen a fwd drag car do a wheelie
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
Now THAT would be impressive
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 08:53:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 08:53:19 PM
Iv seen them lift the rear wheels when they go for the "money shift"
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on July 24, 2020, 08:58:02 PM
Post by: clive on July 24, 2020, 08:58:02 PM
[/quote]What sort of t pieces am I looking for?
[/quote]
Not over at the workshop for a while but then I will sort you a couple out and post them to you.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 09:01:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 09:01:11 PM
Quote from: clive on July 24, 2020, 08:58:02 PMWhat sort of t pieces am I looking for?
[/quote]
Not over at the workshop for a while but then I will sort you a couple out and post them to you.
[/quote]Thanks Clive, I think iv picked found some and got them coming in next few days
Thanks
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 28, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 28, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
Think sites back working
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on July 28, 2020, 01:58:42 PM
Post by: Casey on July 28, 2020, 01:58:42 PM
Yeah, Keni, sKenDread, has fixed the forum (again) :icon_thumleft:
However, we are aware that there is something amiss which could cause this to happen again, so Keni is investigating further. We think it might be something fairly simple.............let's hope we are correct!
However, we are aware that there is something amiss which could cause this to happen again, so Keni is investigating further. We think it might be something fairly simple.............let's hope we are correct!
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:11:54 AM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:11:54 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 07:03:54 PMYeah, me too. Until I saw some of them making awesome passes at SantaPod. They are ridicilously fastQuote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 06:37:22 PMI used to think fwd drag cars were a joke.... Until I saw them running 8s with mph that should be of a 7 second car! The Hondas that run in the fwd are making huge power, think there's a couple making 1200hpQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 24, 2020, 11:38:22 AMI have a few friends from the drag racing scene, mainly fwd corsa stuff but Christ they’re quick.Quote from: Jamie R on July 24, 2020, 08:47:56 AMI think it is too.
Never heard of that before
Sounds clever stuff
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Easiest way to slip the clutch is just use your foot but to run consistent iv got to try control things.
Achieving a 9 seconds pass is great but if I then run slower all the time because I'm not repeating the same formula whilst driving its just pointless.
I'd still run that if I had an expensive gear box because of consistency but you could be more aggressive with it....until the diff brakes
I'm quite looking forward to learning how to get all these things working together, suspension, tyres, gear box, and clutch.
A lot of people think drag racing is easy as you are just driving in a straight line but it just isn't there's the exact same amount of setup and tuning involved driving in a straight line as there is driving around a track.... That is unless you pull the front wheels off the ground when you launch a drag car, then you have no steering at all
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I went to shakeys a few times when I was into yank tanks, never competed tho.
Oh it’s certainly more than driving in a straight line. I think most competitors wish it was that easy.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 02:02:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 02:02:35 PM
Delivery man brought me a present
And here's where it is roughly going to sit.
Need to get some sheet steel, measure cut weld and paint the front clip so as to create mounting points for the fuel cell and the radiator.
Cell has foam in it but reading the instructions I have to remove it for methanol
I shall be keeping it though as you never know I could always throw regular fuel in the car, put an exhaust on and go for a very short drive with it in the future
3 gallons should get me about 18 miles if I'm lucky(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/af7a3eabe0c05be72390f66784dbf779.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/4a4b4f9a2a7f366cdde8e55c96d03af3.jpg)
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And here's where it is roughly going to sit.
Need to get some sheet steel, measure cut weld and paint the front clip so as to create mounting points for the fuel cell and the radiator.
Cell has foam in it but reading the instructions I have to remove it for methanol
I shall be keeping it though as you never know I could always throw regular fuel in the car, put an exhaust on and go for a very short drive with it in the future
3 gallons should get me about 18 miles if I'm lucky
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 02:31:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 02:31:52 PM
Amazon man also brought me gifts, maybe should have used stainless line but I'm sure copper will do just nicely and can hopefully make a nice job of things with the bender (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/2f280d89f48d4359a7ae7e3388cf2046.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/fb501e6a9c66b6ff5aa9245ca461e781.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 07:13:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 07:13:06 PM
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 07:13:06 PMGood luck with that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 08:08:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 07:26:14 PMWhat do you mean?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 07:13:06 PMGood luck with that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 30, 2020, 10:05:42 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 30, 2020, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 08:08:05 PMI thought you were binning the foam ,Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 07:26:14 PMWhat do you mean?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 29, 2020, 07:13:06 PMGood luck with that
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Not putting it to one side for re use if you do ever use petrol in it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
It should come out in one piece so probably just keep it, although it isn't that expensive
Going to order the fuel rails and fuel pump, filter and FPR in the next few weeks, then I can get the lines done for that, also get the an-20 weld on bungs, pipes and fittings for the radiator stuff
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Going to order the fuel rails and fuel pump, filter and FPR in the next few weeks, then I can get the lines done for that, also get the an-20 weld on bungs, pipes and fittings for the radiator stuff
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 11:08:10 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 11:08:10 AM
So I ordered 2 T pieces for the brakes, however the thread on the t pieces seems to be a coarser thread, the silver piece in the picture, the golden one is correct thread that matches the threads on the car... Anyone point me in the right direction as to which t pieces I need to buy?
I'm assuming that one thread is 1.25 and the other is 1.5?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/8644def78b1a72e06ad8eaecfd9d81fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/04bc90b9d32ee9a4d468d8f004acd532.jpg)
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I'm assuming that one thread is 1.25 and the other is 1.5?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/8644def78b1a72e06ad8eaecfd9d81fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/04bc90b9d32ee9a4d468d8f004acd532.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 11:12:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 11:12:49 AM
https://www.halfords.com/tools/fuses-electricals-and-fixings/fixings/halfords-brake-pipe-fitting-m10-3-way-332759.html?istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istFeedId=367c5610-f937-4c81-8609-f84582324cd6&istItemId=xmxlpiiri&istBid=t&_$ja=tsid:94971|cid:865695754|agid:43902127335|tid:aud-297219199169:pla-328104633289|crid:203186037801|nw:g|rnd:602172900281592288|dvc:m|adp:|mt:|loc:9046337&gclid=CjwKCAjw34n5BRA9EiwA2u9k32jGnMFPuoxKob5-DTtbNVMlfDkprZn8i7X-1PsI8isJhgn5oCJFMxoCwIQQAvD_BwE
Wonder if these are different to the ones iv bought already
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2020, 12:04:34 PM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2020, 12:04:34 PM
I hate threads!!! Theres so many Jap is metric fine.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 01:01:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 01:01:26 PM
Zorst 50% complete(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/4047cf82e82d12a4daec04c8d16b6627.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/9e2b80ccc0b5ed0a6b2d9b375cdeb29f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/1cb48307d983ad0c0c2fc58bd05b2a0c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/683e18236760c8cf42164b8b19085412.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/167cfc9de3cffa90f4229fe03a939181.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200730/173f3f551bc5bcb577dd4a7f3979e764.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on July 30, 2020, 03:39:01 PM
Post by: Casey on July 30, 2020, 03:39:01 PM
Is that your welding - if so :notworthy:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 04:08:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: Casey on July 30, 2020, 03:39:01 PMI wish. My friend has sorted me out with all the welding so far.
Is that your welding - if so :notworthy:
The way I see it is, it would cost me £300 for a decent tig welder and a bottle of argon, then I would have to learn how to weld no where near his capabilities,
Or I take that £300 and pay him to do all my bits and pieces needed. Bargain if you ask me
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2020, 06:53:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2020, 06:53:39 PM
Nice stack of dimes there !
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 07:08:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 07:08:17 PM
I'm mightily impressed with how small they are, think he told me a while ago that when pieces are perfectly flush you barely need any filler rod
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2020, 07:15:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on July 30, 2020, 07:15:29 PM
Correct, called autogenous welding, just create the pool from the parent material.
If you get the pulse frequency correct you can create a nice dime effect with pulse and just move the torch.
Did 95 % of my exhaust welds with no filler rod.
Easy on a butt weld, but that one you have with the flange on the end you don’t have a lot of choice but use a rod
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If you get the pulse frequency correct you can create a nice dime effect with pulse and just move the torch.
Did 95 % of my exhaust welds with no filler rod.
Easy on a butt weld, but that one you have with the flange on the end you don’t have a lot of choice but use a rod
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 07:29:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 07:29:12 PM
Yeh the v band defo needed rod as there's always a slight gap.
In other news, taking to my friend with a full chassis rx8 he casually tells me he has revved his 2 rotor to 17000 rpm.....
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In other news, taking to my friend with a full chassis rx8 he casually tells me he has revved his 2 rotor to 17000 rpm.....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 09:55:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 30, 2020, 09:55:21 PM
205 litre drum of methanol £400
That's 45 gallons, roughly 1.5 gallons per run
= 90 passes
Race fuel according to James used to cost him 3-400 per event
This is why I'm glad I'm going for methanol
Now where can I store it
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That's 45 gallons, roughly 1.5 gallons per run
= 90 passes
Race fuel according to James used to cost him 3-400 per event
This is why I'm glad I'm going for methanol
Now where can I store it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:04:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:04:06 PM
Got the rad and cell in a rough position so I can work out what material to take out of the front clip (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/75496e3a3dd68bab86a88b28df04515c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
Cut the front clip, left enough material at the sides so I have something to weld new pieces too, efficient use of the jack and box to get them in almost the exactish position.
The cell has to go on the rhs in the picture because the mechanical fuel pump mounts to that side of the engine which means nice straight short fuel lines into it.
Had a rough measurement of how much fuel line I'm going to need, around 2.5 - 3metres worth of PTFE fuel line which should guve me a little bit spare when I'm done
Using PTFE line as it is best for methanol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/af2df15f830fcbdc7f34aedfbc2e1006.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/86604045b60c015a0e307e9712f36262.jpg)
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The cell has to go on the rhs in the picture because the mechanical fuel pump mounts to that side of the engine which means nice straight short fuel lines into it.
Had a rough measurement of how much fuel line I'm going to need, around 2.5 - 3metres worth of PTFE fuel line which should guve me a little bit spare when I'm done
Using PTFE line as it is best for methanol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/af2df15f830fcbdc7f34aedfbc2e1006.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/86604045b60c015a0e307e9712f36262.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:14:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:14:40 PM
Thinking of removing a bit more metal around here so I can get the fuel line straps mounted to the same piece and they are the same length
I need to get some decent size pieces of cardboard now so that I can make templates for the brakets etc
A slight has occurred to me that I might have to put a "bash bar" back in Infront of the fuel cell and sitting behind the front bumper just incase car decides to eat wall help prevent the cell getting full impact but we shall see. Not currently on top of the essentials list right now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/eb3c63d372c1d83eab62e4c2dcf9f83d.jpg)
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I need to get some decent size pieces of cardboard now so that I can make templates for the brakets etc
A slight has occurred to me that I might have to put a "bash bar" back in Infront of the fuel cell and sitting behind the front bumper just incase car decides to eat wall
help prevent the cell getting full impact but we shall see. Not currently on top of the essentials list right now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/eb3c63d372c1d83eab62e4c2dcf9f83d.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:16:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:16:20 PM
Just realised after all this that I haven't got thr front ARB in and had the terrible thought something was going to hit it
Luckily nothing in the way, phew. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/4f840833efbe8c2ce7fb97e36c0b0175.jpg)
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Luckily nothing in the way, phew. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/4f840833efbe8c2ce7fb97e36c0b0175.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
But dark but how they look inside the car, think the rad needs to step back 50mm mayb so I can get my hand around the filler cap, filler cap sits above engine so hopefully air won't get stuck in the engine.
Cell may have to go down 30mm as then it will give me enough room to re use the overflow/ast from the mx5.
And still leave enough room for filling the cell(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/eb957b7141a7176eade78e6beccb9f00.jpg)
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Cell may have to go down 30mm as then it will give me enough room to re use the overflow/ast from the mx5.
And still leave enough room for filling the cell
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:28:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 01:28:03 PM
Thinking of possibly mounting it here, if need it or not or just use a coke bottle. Like most people do is another question
Tried it back in the standard location, however it looks crap there and impedes on the rad(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/15715e3f92c559ada0b2bd940b2a7bb0.jpg)
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Tried it back in the standard location, however it looks crap there and impedes on the rad(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/15715e3f92c559ada0b2bd940b2a7bb0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 04:51:43 PM
Post by: clive on July 31, 2020, 04:51:43 PM
Certainly not a criticism, merely an observation as it’s all coming along nicely now, but can you not swivel the front of the turbo around which will let the pipe with X become shorter and all allow more room for the air filter.
I have a saying “a different pair of eyes†sometimes helps.
I have a saying “a different pair of eyes†sometimes helps.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2020, 05:56:26 PM
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2020, 05:56:26 PM
I have to agree with Clive, extra pair of eyes helps you see things differently. My project has shown me that
But I dont nothing else to say, looks good to me
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But I dont nothing else to say, looks good to me
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
Headlight was impeding exhaust so have removed it, was only keeping them so it looked more like a car but needs must and all that.
Got excited and pulled the 3" hole saw out and eye balled where the exhaust shall exit.
Going to have to elongate the hole a little bit due to the angle the pipe is going to pass through the bumper(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/7373a0078b6a323480591764b0f2f115.jpg)
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Got excited and pulled the 3" hole saw out and eye balled where the exhaust shall exit.
Going to have to elongate the hole a little bit due to the angle the pipe is going to pass through the bumper(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/7373a0078b6a323480591764b0f2f115.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:10:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: clive on July 31, 2020, 04:51:43 PMIv spent a lot of time when putting the turbo orientation in an ideal place until I got it to where suits best
Certainly not a criticism, merely an observation as it’s all coming along nicely now, but can you not swivel the front of the turbo around which will let the pipe with X become shorter and all allow more room for the air filter.
I have a saying “a different pair of eyes†sometimes helps.
The picture you see is quite deceiving but there is a perfect pathway to create a fresh air feed from the front headlight
Here's some pics to help explain
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
The top line of the turbo inlet is lower than the bottom of the intake piping(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/74ae9e3ff8be7f05651110560199d712.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:19:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:19:38 PM
Here's another angle, now I know everyone is thinking that having the turbo in this sideways position I'm going to just be sucking hot air, which I was also thinking about as it is always better to have the turbo pointing straight at the oncoming air.
Ram Air effect on a turbo at 140mph can actually give you a few more psi, a video I watch about ekanoo racing Shane teklenburg talks about this and he says he sees 10 psi more boost on the drag cars, 5 second drag cars, he tunes at the top end of a track.
Nothing better than free hp is there(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/b39e608eeed8ca4f88cb1c20adcfd333.jpg)
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Ram Air effect on a turbo at 140mph can actually give you a few more psi, a video I watch about ekanoo racing Shane teklenburg talks about this and he says he sees 10 psi more boost on the drag cars, 5 second drag cars, he tunes at the top end of a track.
Nothing better than free hp is there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:21:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:21:36 PM
Here's my solution to not injest anything other than fresh air...
This is just a bit of scrap I have, 4 inch aluminium that I'm going to run across the engine bay and take fresh air in by removing the headlight(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/287ce50f28ddcc440363a9f9dd69add4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/3b2d73006ecb5b1cd57c6fbb146abc05.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/a4876820f020bfc36cc90422feedecc7.jpg)
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This is just a bit of scrap I have, 4 inch aluminium that I'm going to run across the engine bay and take fresh air in by removing the headlight
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:27:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:27:12 PM
Just ordered one of these, along with a stainless steel 3" to go on my exhaust.
This 4 inch v band is getting welded on the front of my turbo. I could have just used silicone hoses but honestly why.
V bands look way betterer and are strong and secure(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/dd08c66309706425f5c163e794cd01ec.jpg)
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This 4 inch v band is getting welded on the front of my turbo. I could have just used silicone hoses but honestly why.
V bands look way betterer and are strong and secure
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 31, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Picture just to give an idea of where the pipe work is going to sit. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/7ed2de0b3de86368cbc312a76061326a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2020, 12:12:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2020, 12:12:10 PM
More v band presents from the delivery man
4 inch aluminium for the turbo inlet
3 inch stainless steel for my exhaust(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200806/fb646ccc6c0040ff79da0599ba43b371.jpg)
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4 inch aluminium for the turbo inlet
3 inch stainless steel for my exhaust(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200806/fb646ccc6c0040ff79da0599ba43b371.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2020, 01:36:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 06, 2020, 01:36:29 PM
Just needs some blue tack to keep it held in place now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200806/a6d143708b4c266cb1bca53f86963be4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200806/e068d268dfb92a9908d976860b8caff4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:40:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:40:27 PM
So can anyone tell me what is the best thing to do after you spend the first part of the day outside top off getting major sunburn doing the garden?
Yep that's right decide to lay on a concrete floor underneath a car removing the subframe and attached components in its entirety in under 2 hours on my own.
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Yep that's right decide to lay on a concrete floor underneath a car removing the subframe and attached components in its entirety in under 2 hours on my own.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:41:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:41:46 PM
Tools needed to remove subframe, along with all the screws and nuts to remove to drop subframe.
Took me longer to disconnect the brake lines and the hand brake cable than it did to remove the rear end(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/8a331e9088ced61a704bedeb4f246d18.jpg)
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Took me longer to disconnect the brake lines and the hand brake cable than it did to remove the rear end(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/8a331e9088ced61a704bedeb4f246d18.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:41:46 PMI’m so glad you ain’t got socks on with them flippers
Tools needed to remove subframe, along with all the screws and nuts to remove to drop subframe.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:45:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:45:39 PM
Removed and jet washed and degrease degrimed.
So I actually do have a limited slip diff as turned the diff and both hubs spin the same way. Meaningless though as want to install an rx8 unit.
Sooo has anyone got an rx8 LSD with 3.9 ring gear please
I wanted to take even more weight out of the car and thought what better way to reduce weight than get rid of the rear end in its entirety (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/7d8ee0ad6d088b0b7bcb39dc7a80d47c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/f9b90024854fbbbea0c3fc543bd7397e.jpg)
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So I actually do have a limited slip diff as turned the diff and both hubs spin the same way. Meaningless though as want to install an rx8 unit.
Sooo has anyone got an rx8 LSD with 3.9 ring gear please
I wanted to take even more weight out of the car and thought what better way to reduce weight than get rid of the rear end in its entirety (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/7d8ee0ad6d088b0b7bcb39dc7a80d47c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/f9b90024854fbbbea0c3fc543bd7397e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:48:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:48:20 PM
Completed all the removal whilst wearing shorts and flip flops, only PPE I used was googlles to stop 14 years worth of bab falling in my face when on my back under the car
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 07:15:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 06:43:33 PMSocks and slidesQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:41:46 PMI’m so glad you ain’t got socks on with them flippers
Tools needed to remove subframe, along with all the screws and nuts to remove to drop subframe.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 07:28:34 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 07:15:49 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 06:43:33 PMSocks and slidesQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 06:41:46 PMI’m so glad you ain’t got socks on with them flippers
Tools needed to remove subframe, along with all the screws and nuts to remove to drop subframe.
Took me longer to disconnect the brake lines and the hand brake cable than it did to remove the rear end(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/8a331e9088ced61a704bedeb4f246d18.jpg)
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Is it like the RX8 rear subframe , 6 big bolts holding it then all the pissy 10 mm bolts for brake pipe brackets ?
As for the diff , you’ll struggle however there is an Australian company that does -4.7- 5.1-5.4 wheel and pinion
Could be worth asking what they got , they are on e bay
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:22:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:22:03 PM
Yep 6 nuts for the subframe, 6 for the suspension and 4 for the brakes I think.
Much easier for me as I have taken everything else out.
Now I'm wondering whether a get my dad to make solid bushings out of metal OR Use polybushing like I have got for the fronts?
Be nice of anyone's opinions on solid or poly Bush as iv no clue apart from the stock ones are getting replaced.
I understand that full blown race cars would possibly use rose joints/spherical bearings which could be a possibility but I'm all ears.
Found a local sand blaster and powder coater. Might have to strip it all down, make it easier to clean etc.
Going to see what colours they do and go for a light colour, nice to look under a car and see how clean things are and that a person has taken effort to sort a car properly
As for a diff, I have found the 3.9 ring and pinions but was hopeful a stock diff came with a 3.9 but doesn't sound like it
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Much easier for me as I have taken everything else out.
Now I'm wondering whether a get my dad to make solid bushings out of metal OR Use polybushing like I have got for the fronts?
Be nice of anyone's opinions on solid or poly Bush as iv no clue apart from the stock ones are getting replaced.
I understand that full blown race cars would possibly use rose joints/spherical bearings which could be a possibility but I'm all ears.
Found a local sand blaster and powder coater. Might have to strip it all down, make it easier to clean etc.
Going to see what colours they do and go for a light colour, nice to look under a car and see how clean things are and that a person has taken effort to sort a car properly
As for a diff, I have found the 3.9 ring and pinions but was hopeful a stock diff came with a 3.9 but doesn't sound like it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 08:25:17 PM
Post by: clive on August 07, 2020, 08:25:17 PM
E-Bay -----------------there's just the slight possibility they may be a little sub standard!
I had an Irish rally company send me a 5.1 and a box of bits, I actually got my gear box company to play with it because looked rubbish, they managed to get it set up but expected it to last 5minites
I told them if it broke or wore out immediately it was nothing to do with us as they supplied the thing,
I had an Irish rally company send me a 5.1 and a box of bits, I actually got my gear box company to play with it because looked rubbish, they managed to get it set up but expected it to last 5minites
I told them if it broke or wore out immediately it was nothing to do with us as they supplied the thing,
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:48:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:48:30 PM
A 4.1 diff ratio will work, I will just have to use more rpm.
Need to gets me a diff in next week or so, as want the car back on its wheels as soon as.
However I can put the diff in after the subframe. I shall see
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Need to gets me a diff in next week or so, as want the car back on its wheels as soon as.
However I can put the diff in after the subframe. I shall see
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 10:10:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:22:03 PMFrom experience don’t to go taking them mounts of the standard rear subframe
Yep 6 nuts for the subframe, 6 for the suspension and 4 for the brakes I think.
Much easier for me as I have taken everything else out.
Now I'm wondering whether a get my dad to make solid bushings out of metal OR Use polybushing like I have got for the fronts?
Be nice of anyone's opinions on solid or poly Bush as iv no clue apart from the stock ones are getting replaced.
I understand that full blown race cars would possibly use rose joints/spherical bearings which could be a possibility but I'm all ears.
Found a local sand blaster and powder coater. Might have to strip it all down, make it easier to clean etc.
Going to see what colours they do and go for a light colour, nice to look under a car and see how clean things are and that a person has taken effort to sort a car properly
As for a diff, I have found the 3.9 ring and pinions but was hopeful a stock diff came with a 3.9 but doesn't sound like it
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There’s none which will match what you have from standard Mazda ones , only Powerflex and they are shite in comparison
I’m sure Clive will agree .
Not sure on diffs sorry , I do know some one who Run the 5.1 and bought from Australia which was great but only in a standard. RX8
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 11:22:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 11:22:22 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 10:10:50 PMNot quite sure what you mean?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:22:03 PMFrom experience don’t to go taking them mounts of the standard rear subframe
Yep 6 nuts for the subframe, 6 for the suspension and 4 for the brakes I think.
Much easier for me as I have taken everything else out.
Now I'm wondering whether a get my dad to make solid bushings out of metal OR Use polybushing like I have got for the fronts?
Be nice of anyone's opinions on solid or poly Bush as iv no clue apart from the stock ones are getting replaced.
I understand that full blown race cars would possibly use rose joints/spherical bearings which could be a possibility but I'm all ears.
Found a local sand blaster and powder coater. Might have to strip it all down, make it easier to clean etc.
Going to see what colours they do and go for a light colour, nice to look under a car and see how clean things are and that a person has taken effort to sort a car properly
As for a diff, I have found the 3.9 ring and pinions but was hopeful a stock diff came with a 3.9 but doesn't sound like it
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There’s none which will match what you have from standard Mazda ones , only Powerflex and they are shite in comparison
I’m sure Clive will agree .
Not sure on diffs sorry , I do know some one who Run the 5.1 and bought from Australia which was great but only in a standard. RX8
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Are you saying the mazda bushings are better or the power flex ones?
The ones in there now have got a fair amount of play and have never been changed that's for sure.
Something iv noticed on the driver side rear wheel arch is that it is covered in grass. Whoever owned the car before me definately took it on track and most likely took to try cutting the grass after the rod exited the block
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 08:17:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 08:17:36 PM
In bits now
Noticed when undoing the diff mount that the bracket on the subframe flexes a lot?! Worth putting a little brace in there now?
Seems to me it would flex even with everything bolted together. It's not much movement but I can move it with the screw in there.
I'm thinking just some small triangles on either side? Little gusset thingys(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200808/cd854b179df739cceaef7bbbcc0b982c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200808/2fd723c10c046486129218bac2ce1186.jpg)
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Noticed when undoing the diff mount that the bracket on the subframe flexes a lot?! Worth putting a little brace in there now?
Seems to me it would flex even with everything bolted together. It's not much movement but I can move it with the screw in there.
I'm thinking just some small triangles on either side? Little gusset thingys(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200808/cd854b179df739cceaef7bbbcc0b982c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200808/2fd723c10c046486129218bac2ce1186.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 15, 2020, 06:38:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 15, 2020, 06:38:52 PM
Not a massive update but remived the seat rails from the stock seats so I can use them with my light weight racing seats
Didn't fancy having the seat in a fixed position so I just need to make some brackets out of aluminium, weld/bolt them to the seat and then bolt them to the rails.
Should make for getting in and out of the car a little easier once it has a cage(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200815/297ef3849af4e83b4f3ff9881aa62bd9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200815/0a16d0874fd9cf9e32846c5da43189db.jpg)
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Didn't fancy having the seat in a fixed position so I just need to make some brackets out of aluminium, weld/bolt them to the seat and then bolt them to the rails.
Should make for getting in and out of the car a little easier once it has a cage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on August 15, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Kirkeys?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2020, 06:41:51 PM
Post by: boosted on August 15, 2020, 06:41:51 PM
Kirkey bros
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 15, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 15, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
Yeh kirkey seat, the one I currently have might end up in the passenger seats as its a little snug for my hence frame
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 18, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 18, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Just had a quick go at removing rust off the control arms and everything with the emry cloth I ordered. Seems to be coming off easy enough.
Wasn't bothered about getting these bits sand blasted as iv got to make bushings for them (aka my dad's making them on his lathe) and they will possibly get replaced down the line as they might end up bending/braking or I just find some more race orientated versions with rose joints/spherical bearings on them etc
Ordered myself a little bench vice that swivels so I can hold the arms and sand them down and drill the old bushings out
Just trying to decide which plastic to use...
Polyurethane
Polyethylene
Delrin
Acetal
Nylon 6
Oilon
PET
Polypropylene
PTFE
So many different plastics but I haven't got a clue(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/b06b02ef7d86320bb056ff44428d3a32.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/638628879361c2bb6574f707cb508f66.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/996847e9d8c2c102b8bca13e8b31e3ed.jpg)
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Wasn't bothered about getting these bits sand blasted as iv got to make bushings for them (aka my dad's making them on his lathe) and they will possibly get replaced down the line as they might end up bending/braking or I just find some more race orientated versions with rose joints/spherical bearings on them etc
Ordered myself a little bench vice that swivels so I can hold the arms and sand them down and drill the old bushings out
Just trying to decide which plastic to use...
Polyurethane
Polyethylene
Delrin
Acetal
Nylon 6
Oilon
PET
Polypropylene
PTFE
So many different plastics but I haven't got a clue
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Post by: boosted on August 18, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Delrin seesm the popular choice atmo.
Get youself some Metalmorphises of ebay....its a rust treatment best stuff ive ever used...goes on like painting milk. so easy to use. ive used it on all my mx5;s turns brown crud back to shiny black.
Get youself some Metalmorphises of ebay....its a rust treatment best stuff ive ever used...goes on like painting milk. so easy to use. ive used it on all my mx5;s turns brown crud back to shiny black.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 18, 2020, 05:36:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 18, 2020, 05:36:12 PM
Spoken to plastics company and they have said high density polyethylene (HDPE)
60 QUID DELIVERED, that includes a sheet of stuff for my dad to use for something he needs also.
Was going to ask if anyone knew of a substance I can use to kill the tin worm thanks
The lower control arm I had noticed was bent a couple of weeks ago is now straight, 1 tap with a 14pound sledge hameer has straightened it out
I shall replace it with new though but want to get car back on its wheels soon as I get the subframe back from powder coaters on friday
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60 QUID DELIVERED, that includes a sheet of stuff for my dad to use for something he needs also.
Was going to ask if anyone knew of a substance I can use to kill the tin worm thanks
The lower control arm I had noticed was bent a couple of weeks ago is now straight, 1 tap with a 14pound sledge hameer has straightened it out
I shall replace it with new though but want to get car back on its wheels soon as I get the subframe back from powder coaters on friday
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
Drilled the bushing out, kept the steel sleeve insert as this will give me the correct width for THE HDPE bushings to be made. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200819/aeef97e1d07e0f07549eb3987502b732.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200819/faeee302b242574ba457af1307cb7113.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200819/648695968ca83ad07c7bb651f79149b2.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 05:34:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2020, 05:34:59 PM
If anyone knows how to get this out then I'm all ears, that mofo is stuck in there good(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200819/341f392ae6649a0d833f4b17ee3e8915.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 06:00:34 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 19, 2020, 06:00:34 PM
Drill
Cut off flush then drill through
Only way if she's stuck
'It's only soft metal
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Cut off flush then drill through
Only way if she's stuck
'It's only soft metal
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
I had the other day like that..i hammered a wedge into it. Blasted it with heat and keep hitting the side with a hammer...an hour it took.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2020, 03:29:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 25, 2020, 03:29:10 PM
Subframe
Sending all suspension arms to blasters, tried rust remover and its just baba, stripped the hubs down too, removed the crudded up dust shields, discs and calipers.
Going to clean them all up and just give them a lick of spray paint.
Painted hubs and calipers should be good for 50hp increase(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200825/ec327dcee3aba29cc1e111361bbbde20.jpg)
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Sending all suspension arms to blasters, tried rust remover and its just baba, stripped the hubs down too, removed the crudded up dust shields, discs and calipers.
Going to clean them all up and just give them a lick of spray paint.
Painted hubs and calipers should be good for 50hp increase(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200825/ec327dcee3aba29cc1e111361bbbde20.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
Before (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/e46fc560b7f0d4b02567d61c8c222fff.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2020, 04:56:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 27, 2020, 04:56:28 PM
After.
Car now has 75 hp and the engine doesn't even run(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/de22812be9885e7114ffda06ca33efaa.jpg)
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Car now has 75 hp and the engine doesn't even run(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/de22812be9885e7114ffda06ca33efaa.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2020, 09:08:01 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 27, 2020, 09:08:01 PM
That'll look quite nice I think
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 01, 2020, 03:43:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 01, 2020, 03:43:43 PM
Iv just drawn up the piece for mounting the radiator and the fuel cell and dropped them at my mates to be made up, along with some straps for the fuel cell etc.
No point me making it when he has all the tools to make it better than me. Plasma cutter, welder, and folder etc.
Got sick of looking at the pieces I had left from the battery box mount in the engine bay so spent ages drilling out the spot weld, swearing, cutting myself and beating it with a hammer but they're now out. Sloshed on some black spray paint I had in the garage
Looks tidy now.
Fuel pump has been ordered hence why I have drawn up the front mounting panel as that will allow me to make up lines for fuel and coolant lines etc
Saw an interesting setup on a drag car recently where it had a mechanical fuel pump but to help get the car started it used an electric fuel pump which then switched off as the mechanical one got pumping.
Sometimes mechanical pumps can be a ball ache to start so going to look into this, see how it works, but if its not really simple then I won't bother.
I will be used a 16 volt battery anyway so should have enough oomph to get it started and do a run, without having an alternator. We shall see, I just like seeing how people approach things differently(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/5d99a7bac72622a26a2a84e844bcd816.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/779f77bb029e3258c31ff793f27c81c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/2b03460c49354460da34cf3df626336e.jpg)
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No point me making it when he has all the tools to make it better than me. Plasma cutter, welder, and folder etc.
Got sick of looking at the pieces I had left from the battery box mount in the engine bay so spent ages drilling out the spot weld, swearing, cutting myself and beating it with a hammer but they're now out. Sloshed on some black spray paint I had in the garage
Looks tidy now.
Fuel pump has been ordered hence why I have drawn up the front mounting panel as that will allow me to make up lines for fuel and coolant lines etc
Saw an interesting setup on a drag car recently where it had a mechanical fuel pump but to help get the car started it used an electric fuel pump which then switched off as the mechanical one got pumping.
Sometimes mechanical pumps can be a ball ache to start so going to look into this, see how it works, but if its not really simple then I won't bother.
I will be used a 16 volt battery anyway so should have enough oomph to get it started and do a run, without having an alternator. We shall see, I just like seeing how people approach things differently(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/5d99a7bac72622a26a2a84e844bcd816.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/779f77bb029e3258c31ff793f27c81c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200901/2b03460c49354460da34cf3df626336e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 03, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
Found this little beauty nugget of info for the mx5 rx8 swap bits
https://youtu.be/88inyRpBa0o
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2020, 04:23:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2020, 04:23:05 PM
6mm mounting plate to bolt seat too(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/399e15e96a8f47d1345b092e0d7e6a09.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2020, 04:29:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 04, 2020, 04:29:11 PM
Got bored sitting in the house so decided to make the car a convertless, man those roofs aren't exactly light weight are they?!
Only other places I'm going to lose weight in now will be the structural part of the doors... However I don't want them going all floppy if I cut the side impact bar out
Probably leave that until after the cage is all done.
Iv taken the passenger side glass out also, few kilos there.
Honestly can't see where else I could remove weight from if I tried so I can see how Clive might struggle to get more weight out of his rx8.
Oh yeh there's a couple of areas of sound deadening to remove but other than that this car is now well and truly "stripped out"
Hoping to get all the rear end back in over the next week or 2 so I can get it back on its wheels(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/5bce0b02826c3f2f3e9b1adfe02442a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/c65a325b9939695303bc400bd072c9ae.jpg)
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Only other places I'm going to lose weight in now will be the structural part of the doors... However I don't want them going all floppy if I cut the side impact bar out
Probably leave that until after the cage is all done.
Iv taken the passenger side glass out also, few kilos there.
Honestly can't see where else I could remove weight from if I tried so I can see how Clive might struggle to get more weight out of his rx8.
Oh yeh there's a couple of areas of sound deadening to remove but other than that this car is now well and truly "stripped out"
Hoping to get all the rear end back in over the next week or 2 so I can get it back on its wheels(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/5bce0b02826c3f2f3e9b1adfe02442a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/c65a325b9939695303bc400bd072c9ae.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2020, 04:19:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2020, 04:19:20 PM
Progress
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 09, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
Post by: boosted on September 09, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
Shiny
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 09, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
Going to paint it black
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 12, 2020, 09:42:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 12, 2020, 09:42:23 AM
E&j water pump housing AN-12 inlet/outlet and also has a port fro screwing in the water temp sensor.
Just waiting on my water pump now and my fuel pump... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/b9e3d3d38c4d42f6c960f4a91c78455c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/61e8f70371dfd44a31463f50dcd55325.jpg)
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Just waiting on my water pump now and my fuel pump... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/b9e3d3d38c4d42f6c960f4a91c78455c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/61e8f70371dfd44a31463f50dcd55325.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2020, 03:01:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2020, 03:01:41 PM
Water pump has arrived from Summit racing it's heavy bugger. Not had any import charges on it either which is nice(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/ad53c950831317adf5c2518f4db5d9d3.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: lennycarloff on September 14, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on September 14, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
That looks a lot more compact than the Davis Craig ones, nice purchase.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2020, 09:01:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 14, 2020, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: lennycarloff on September 14, 2020, 06:47:34 PMCertainly is. Has AN12 outlets too which is much better
That looks a lot more compact than the Davis Craig ones, nice purchase.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
Got my arms back, just need bushings now then I can get car back on its wheel(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/3fb646e07ae82744d99a2895d20f44c0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 15, 2020, 05:55:18 PM
Post by: clive on September 15, 2020, 05:55:18 PM
Wow, they look good, most of the ones I see now are all rusted. What bushes are you going to use as I may be able to help
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 06:15:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 15, 2020, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: clive on September 15, 2020, 05:55:18 PMMaking our own clive
Wow, they look good, most of the ones I see now are all rusted. What bushes are you going to use as I may be able to help
They were all rusted up etc but had them blasted and painted. Probably going to change them over time to new ones but they shall work just fine for now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 19, 2020, 03:41:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 19, 2020, 03:41:45 PM
The term measure twice cut once just didn't apply today...
Trying to get the rad and cell panel up high enough whilst trying to keep the standard bonnet catch.
It's all fairly floppy due tothe bits I have cut out to get the rad panel where I want it to sit on the cross piece but once iv finally trimmed it all and welded it together it will be strong and sturdy.
Need to fold the bottom of the panel to help strengthen it up and stops it poking down so much.
Just literally thought of where I can mount my oil cooler now too(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/b6b445bb9424e447d8b0e00f5396accf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/7640b6bc2e624f163f6f3e2f69ba4e65.jpg)
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Trying to get the rad and cell panel up high enough whilst trying to keep the standard bonnet catch.
It's all fairly floppy due tothe bits I have cut out to get the rad panel where I want it to sit on the cross piece but once iv finally trimmed it all and welded it together it will be strong and sturdy.
Need to fold the bottom of the panel to help strengthen it up and stops it poking down so much.
Just literally thought of where I can mount my oil cooler now too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 01:35:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 01:35:33 PM
-8 fuel rails.
Parts slowly turning up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200928/c06b1a919bad221084c90b090c749909.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on September 28, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
Post by: Jamie R on September 28, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 01:35:33 PMLooks far too complicated to me, you could tell me that's off a space x rocket and I'd believe you
-8 fuel rails.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 05:28:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on September 28, 2020, 05:17:29 PMThis is only 2 or the 3 fuel rails I'm going to use.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 01:35:33 PMLooks far too complicated to me, you could tell me that's off a space x rocket and I'd believe you
-8 fuel rails.
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Got another coming tomorrow I think, going to require some cutting and welding and drilling and measuring though
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 28, 2020, 08:44:14 PM
Post by: clive on September 28, 2020, 08:44:14 PM
As you are going to stick a lot of fuel into it how much power are you looking to find,
I'm only running 1680's and 850's to give me 520bhp and still have duty cycle left.
I'm only running 1680's and 850's to give me 520bhp and still have duty cycle left.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:19:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: clive on September 28, 2020, 08:44:14 PMI'm going to be running methanol so I have to inject 1.5 times more fuel at least to make up for the calorific deficit difference between petrol and methanol.
As you are going to stick a lot of fuel into it how much power are you looking to find,
I'm only running 1680's and 850's to give me 520bhp and still have duty cycle left.
I'm going to have scope for 8 x 2200 cc Injectors. Prety much over kill BUT I'd rather not run out of fuel.
Only want to max out this current turbo, probably around 600hp but have enough fuel to build another engine and shoot for 4 digit hp
Tick off my small goals but build it for the ultimate goal of 8.50s
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:21:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:21:22 PM
Just a quick calculation and I will need 4000cc worth of Injector on methanol to achieve same as your hp Clive.
Thats very simple calculation though so don't take it as me talking about it as if I actually know
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:45:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 09:45:43 PM
Sorry you have a total of 3548cc total for 560hp so that's 5322cc I need on methanol for same hp
So let's say I want to achieve double your hp so that's double the boost and double the fuel
Thats a total of 10,644cc which works out at running 5 x 2200cx injectors
I'm thinking of running smaller primaries just to help get it started but I need to ask people that are going to supply me with an ecu and tune what to do.
This is a very simple way to explain it all as it doesn't always translate to double the fuel and boost to equal double the hp
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So let's say I want to achieve double your hp so that's double the boost and double the fuel
Thats a total of 10,644cc which works out at running 5 x 2200cx injectors
I'm thinking of running smaller primaries just to help get it started but I need to ask people that are going to supply me with an ecu and tune what to do.
This is a very simple way to explain it all as it doesn't always translate to double the fuel and boost to equal double the hp
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 28, 2020, 10:37:38 PM
Post by: clive on September 28, 2020, 10:37:38 PM
Whoops missed somthing somewhere, I thought it was going on the road.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 11:10:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 28, 2020, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: clive on September 28, 2020, 10:37:38 PMI was originally thinking that but you can't have a streetcar/drag car without there being some sort of compromise.
Whoops missed somthing somewhere, I thought it was going on the road.
Building it as a race car so that if I get bored of drag racing it won't take much to turn it into track car
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 29, 2020, 11:27:14 AM
Post by: re japi on September 29, 2020, 11:27:14 AM
I reckon you need smaller primarys, with those big boys it will be bastard to tune to get it even idle
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: re japi on September 29, 2020, 11:27:14 AMYeh thats what I was thinking, just use some smaller ones to get it started.
I reckon you need smaller primarys, with those big boys it will be bastard to tune to get it even idle
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I will ask James about how he gets his started as mine is going to be prety much a copy of his, apart from he's using billet plates
Although the ignition I'm getting will ignite prety much anything
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 29, 2020, 01:27:49 PM
Post by: re japi on September 29, 2020, 01:27:49 PM
What coils you are going to use?
Cause IGN 1A style coils arent enough. You need s**tloads of electricsity to spark plugs
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Cause IGN 1A style coils arent enough. You need s**tloads of electricsity to spark plugs
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
Bosch coils with an M&W Pro drag 4 ignition system
Drag use only ignition, I won't have any firing issues with that
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Drag use only ignition, I won't have any firing issues with that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 03:38:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 03:38:21 PM
450mm of fuel rail blank hath arrived
Kind of starting to think I should have spunked out on a billet intake as its all slowly adding up now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200929/8076c84b0252c3a387040c985618635f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200929/0d62b071242e9cc8aafd9fdcb7af9ec6.jpg)
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Kind of starting to think I should have spunked out on a billet intake as its all slowly adding up now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2020, 03:42:55 PM
Post by: boosted on September 29, 2020, 03:42:55 PM
Fantastic progress Grant.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 03:50:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 29, 2020, 03:50:13 PM
Over night parts from America... Still waiting on fuel pump I ordered a month ago lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2020, 02:44:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 30, 2020, 02:44:25 PM
Bought myself the largest rear housing you can for the s300 turbo.
1.00 AR diveded entry housing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200930/672f3cd2149624e9a714e138b66c8acd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200930/4bc52db0ab4f0aaa689af6bc10a0ae32.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 02:41:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 02:41:03 PM
Sooooo it's amazing what you ca pick up from watching such YouTube videos as Bad Obsession Motorsports and how to apply things to my own car.
There currently building a race car for the new series city car Cup and a simple rule they have to follow for safety is removal of the bonnet catch....
Iv been trying to retain my bonnet catch mainly just because it helps align the bonnet and the front bar keeps the light sin place, however iv been cutting it away piece by piece to fit my radiator and fuel cell panel, however iv decided to get rid of most of it now.
Will get some pics this week as might get a few hours on it and get all the suspension back on as it's been on stands for far too long now
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There currently building a race car for the new series city car Cup and a simple rule they have to follow for safety is removal of the bonnet catch....
Iv been trying to retain my bonnet catch mainly just because it helps align the bonnet and the front bar keeps the light sin place, however iv been cutting it away piece by piece to fit my radiator and fuel cell panel, however iv decided to get rid of most of it now.
Will get some pics this week as might get a few hours on it and get all the suspension back on as it's been on stands for far too long now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on October 12, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 12, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 02:41:03 PMIt's a good series that,
Sooooo it's amazing what you ca pick up from watching such YouTube videos as Bad Obsession Motorsports and how to apply things to my own car.
There currently building a race car for the new series city car Cup and a simple rule they have to follow for safety is removal of the bonnet catch....
Iv been trying to retain my bonnet catch mainly just because it helps align the bonnet and the front bar keeps the light sin place, however iv been cutting it away piece by piece to fit my radiator and fuel cell panel, however iv decided to get rid of most of it now.
Will get some pics this week as might get a few hours on it and get all the suspension back on as it's been on stands for far too long now
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The 4wd mini they did was cool too
Clever pair and they don't have an annoying yank accent like most YouTube car based channels
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:47:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:47:39 PM
Yeh they put a lot of effort into it too with the script instead saying erm all the time whilst trying to think of words.
Cell and rad panel no bolted to the front rather than squeezing it in the back.
Going to maybe lift it a litlle more and cut a bit away of what's left of the front panel. Then try think of ways to add a couple of braces to guve it a bit of strength and a tab or 2 for holding the head lights as I might at some time need them, but most likely not (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/3b8bc106dc992efe21f5497b68a29ab2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/0cf24a5232bb87c5e603c778b2405044.jpg)
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Cell and rad panel no bolted to the front rather than squeezing it in the back.
Going to maybe lift it a litlle more and cut a bit away of what's left of the front panel. Then try think of ways to add a couple of braces to guve it a bit of strength and a tab or 2 for holding the head lights as I might at some time need them, but most likely not (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/3b8bc106dc992efe21f5497b68a29ab2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/0cf24a5232bb87c5e603c778b2405044.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:48:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:48:28 PM
As you can see the bonnet catch is all gone now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/78ca88390ec7f5562498b26bd8cc90d2.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:48:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 12, 2020, 06:48:54 PM
Big thanks to Clive for these bushes(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201012/9e8f95d6838bb7c544efadbc459eadbf.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on October 12, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
Post by: Jamie R on October 12, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
Coming on leaps n bounds
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2020, 08:19:07 PM
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2020, 08:19:07 PM
Thats my winter job on my 5 to.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 03:50:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 03:50:16 PM
When Ups eventually turn up they make me happy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/6d2ac1229250067ed20485c07f28263d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 03:51:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 03:51:24 PM
When you want to make power and not worry about fuel delivery you need one of these bad mofos(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/49070e77788597028593f3bd7fbfeced.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 04:02:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 04:02:44 PM
What is the name of this arm? It is the one thst the ARB attaches too.
Rear lower camber arm? Need the bushing for it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/5c166509618cb56e53efd197bfce4cbd.jpg)
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Rear lower camber arm? Need the bushing for it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/5c166509618cb56e53efd197bfce4cbd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 04:02:44 PMHave a look on Powerflex website
What is the name of this arm? It is the one thst the ARB attaches too.
Rear lower camber arm? Need the bushing for it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/5c166509618cb56e53efd197bfce4cbd.jpg)
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They name all the arms on a diagram
Then speak with Clive or them I guess
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 04:39:27 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 04:39:06 PMRear lower control arm I thinkQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 04:02:44 PMHave a look on Powerflex website
What is the name of this arm? It is the one thst the ARB attaches too.
Rear lower camber arm? Need the bushing for it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/5c166509618cb56e53efd197bfce4cbd.jpg)
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They name all the arms on a diagram
Then speak with Clive or them I guess
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 05:25:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 05:25:50 PM
7 or 10?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/e1063fa6f83f430c12006bfe97d3e4b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/3044e9a81618d57887fd146cc75b0e5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/84868b1a64f7d245682f21821bc74666.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/f56dbb19c82e1fba8b99d2d240552c38.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 14, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 14, 2020, 05:25:50 PMI'd say 7 as it shows the arb going over it
7 or 10?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/e1063fa6f83f430c12006bfe97d3e4b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/3044e9a81618d57887fd146cc75b0e5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/84868b1a64f7d245682f21821bc74666.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201014/f56dbb19c82e1fba8b99d2d240552c38.jpg)
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And right hand side shows lower front wishbone on front
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2020, 03:04:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2020, 03:04:52 PM
Oh my would you just look at that thing of beauty (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/82e23578e70d3c5efb6344ba6f65e38b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/d3517ac97afd02540dbfdb7104518d5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/d11142b55e871541bb2ee0cac2468dc9.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 10:18:41 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 17, 2020, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 16, 2020, 03:04:52 PMLooks neat
Oh my would you just look at that thing of beauty (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/82e23578e70d3c5efb6344ba6f65e38b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/d3517ac97afd02540dbfdb7104518d5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201016/d11142b55e871541bb2ee0cac2468dc9.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 12:11:58 PM
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 12:11:58 PM
How do control pressure with a mechanical fuel pump...still use an fpr lift pump...what pressure are we seeing? I suppose being ethanol...where increasing flow..
Just for knowledge...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2020, 12:32:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2020, 12:32:36 PM
Regular fpr on the left, mechanical pump driver fpr on the right
The mechanical fuel pumps work on vacuum so they will suck the fuel out of the tank whilst cranking the engine, puts a demand on the battery but I'm using a 16volt battery, as I'm not bothering with an alternator.
Iv seen a few drag cars wire an electrical fuel pump up with the starter motor so that the engine gets fuel pressure faster and as soon as it starts the mechanical pumps take over.
Mechanical pumps are so much better in my opinion as there's no electrical load and wiring to worry about and you should never run out of fuel supply (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/449417a11ac8d77898b0b10e9690f9da.jpg)
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The mechanical fuel pumps work on vacuum so they will suck the fuel out of the tank whilst cranking the engine, puts a demand on the battery but I'm using a 16volt battery, as I'm not bothering with an alternator.
Iv seen a few drag cars wire an electrical fuel pump up with the starter motor so that the engine gets fuel pressure faster and as soon as it starts the mechanical pumps take over.
Mechanical pumps are so much better in my opinion as there's no electrical load and wiring to worry about and you should never run out of fuel supply (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/449417a11ac8d77898b0b10e9690f9da.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2020, 02:25:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 17, 2020, 02:25:55 PM
The amount of fuel flowing increases with rpm, mine can do 12.9 gpm at 8000 rpm at 100psi.
Fuel pressure will be the same same as any rx7, 38 psi base pressure? And then increasing along with boost I think so I should see70psi fuel pressure. Plus iv got more volume in the fuel lines, think I'm going for - 10 or - 8, can't remember at the moment
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Fuel pressure will be the same same as any rx7, 38 psi base pressure? And then increasing along with boost I think so I should see70psi fuel pressure. Plus iv got more volume in the fuel lines, think I'm going for - 10 or - 8, can't remember at the moment
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 10:15:17 PM
Post by: boosted on October 17, 2020, 10:15:17 PM
Cheers!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 05:36:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 05:36:34 PM
Trying to decifer the nomenclature of what these arms names are across bushing sites and spares replacement parts is impossible. Every different website has it own name for each arm(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/f8928c470630654d467a0572de3b98ab.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/ad03db5896c45ab1b5c48aa04855f1d2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/4da0afb2101d0648b38fcc3cd11f2178.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 05:36:34 PM
Trying to decifer the nomenclature of what these arms names are across bushing sites and spares replacement parts is impossible. Every different website has it own name for each arm
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Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 05:36:34 PMGrab your hub and put them next to it
Trying to decifer the nomenclature of what these arms names are across bushing sites and spares replacement parts is impossible. Every different website has it own name for each arm
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Power flex diagram
The one with indented ball joint is lower front toe control arm , they are handed
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
Gimme 10 I'll be out in garage then I'll send a piccy
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:07:03 PMI'd say 6+5 are what you need and 4 is the bush in the hub (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/6c28587afc2f808f57f08415400fc092.jpg)
Gimme 10 I'll be out in garage then I'll send a piccy
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Of the white arm on the right ?
Don't worry if you order wrong I'll ha e the spares
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:26:33 PMThere two top arms three bottomQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 07:07:03 PMI'd say 6+5 are what you need and 4 is the bush in the hub (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201020/6c28587afc2f808f57f08415400fc092.jpg)
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Of the white arm on the right ?
Don't worry if you order wrong I'll ha e the spares
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 07:36:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 07:36:36 PM
Iv been looking at the arms all day lol. On the car and think iv figured out what's what
Powerflex use track control arm which I think is the toe control arm, attaches to the front of the hub.
Number 4 Bush is the easy one.
Iv got a couple of bushes left from the kit from Clive, slight differences in size for 1 of the arms, the rx8 Bush is slightly larger than the mx5
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Powerflex use track control arm which I think is the toe control arm, attaches to the front of the hub.
Number 4 Bush is the easy one.
Iv got a couple of bushes left from the kit from Clive, slight differences in size for 1 of the arms, the rx8 Bush is slightly larger than the mx5
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2020, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: boosted on October 20, 2020, 07:37:22 PM
Whos Jim?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 20, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
Jim?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 20, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Probably something I typed wrong
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2020, 04:57:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 25, 2020, 04:57:13 PM
Just when you think your happy with the intake you have assembled you go and find something PERFECT(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201025/a16bd1addcf7b55b2ee5c232aee63955.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PM
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong 
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 28, 2020, 08:22:14 AM
Post by: clive on October 28, 2020, 08:22:14 AM
I know your having some issues but its good to see the car is now really coming along.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PMThat's a risk I wouldn't take .....
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 10:51:26 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AMWhat risk?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PMThat's a risk I wouldn't take .....
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Its that one that iv stripped part of the thread, only a 1/3 of one thread
Its all OK for now anyway as car is fully back on the floor now, minus the diff and half shafts as still got to work all that out.
Think I'm going to pull the front suspension off next and clean all that up as that gives me some time for money to start coming in due to starting my limited company and haven't been paid for a month so far
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 10:51:26 AMAh right - thought it was complete naffedQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AMWhat risk?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PMThat's a risk I wouldn't take .....
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Its that one that iv stripped part of the thread, only a 1/3 of one thread
Its all OK for now anyway as car is fully back on the floor now, minus the diff and half shafts as still got to work all that out.
Think I'm going to pull the front suspension off next and clean all that up as that gives me some time for money to start coming in due to starting my limited company and haven't been paid for a month so far
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Yeah just get a thread Combe , should do the job
Looks nice under there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 07:22:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 07:22:03 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 10:54:18 AMNo it's not that bad, I stopped after an uggaduggas of the impact so hopefully saved it. If it is a bit poop after then I will replace it before racing it lol.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 10:51:26 AMAh right - thought it was complete naffedQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AMWhat risk?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PMThat's a risk I wouldn't take .....
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Its that one that iv stripped part of the thread, only a 1/3 of one thread
Its all OK for now anyway as car is fully back on the floor now, minus the diff and half shafts as still got to work all that out.
Think I'm going to pull the front suspension off next and clean all that up as that gives me some time for money to start coming in due to starting my limited company and haven't been paid for a month so far
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Yeah just get a thread Combe , should do the job
Looks nice under there
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Thanks, I like to know that by keeping the underneath of the car looking good that I can identify any issues such as leaks easy. Plus it gives people things to look at instead of just the engine bay.
I did all of the parts underneath my fd in powder coat blue when I had it. Bet that is still in good condition now if the owners have looked after it properly
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 07:25:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 07:25:46 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3463057567066876&id=420838334622163
In life its good to have goals, now I'm a long way off with my car but to run as quick and as fast as this would be perfect, although I'm not into the American claiming world record nonsense that seems to be big these days.
No point having a world record if you don't win a championship, let alone a singke race.
Stick shift world record at 8.58 although I'm sure Len Bacon in his rx7 with a "stick shift" has run 7s...
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In life its good to have goals, now I'm a long way off with my car but to run as quick and as fast as this would be perfect, although I'm not into the American claiming world record nonsense that seems to be big these days.
No point having a world record if you don't win a championship, let alone a singke race.
Stick shift world record at 8.58 although I'm sure Len Bacon in his rx7 with a "stick shift" has run 7s...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 29, 2020, 08:49:32 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 29, 2020, 08:49:32 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 07:22:03 PMA thread Comb will get its back easy enough , only around a tenner . Handy bit of kit .Quote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 10:54:18 AMNo it's not that bad, I stopped after an uggaduggas of the impact so hopefully saved it. If it is a bit poop after then I will replace it before racing it lol.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2020, 10:51:26 AMAh right - thought it was complete naffedQuote from: Mr Spiller on October 28, 2020, 08:22:36 AMWhat risk?Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PMThat's a risk I wouldn't take .....
Trying to install suspension arms whilst the coil overs are mounted to the hub is almost impossible. 30 mins of struggling before realising what I was doing wrong
All bushing installed in the rear now.
Iv Cross threaded one of the rear lower arms that attach the ARB so I'm hoping I can manage to get a threader on it or have to buy a new one
Car is so light, I can literally put my knee against it and it rolls forward
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Its that one that iv stripped part of the thread, only a 1/3 of one thread
Its all OK for now anyway as car is fully back on the floor now, minus the diff and half shafts as still got to work all that out.
Think I'm going to pull the front suspension off next and clean all that up as that gives me some time for money to start coming in due to starting my limited company and haven't been paid for a month so far
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Yeah just get a thread Combe , should do the job
Looks nice under there
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Thanks, I like to know that by keeping the underneath of the car looking good that I can identify any issues such as leaks easy. Plus it gives people things to look at instead of just the engine bay.
I did all of the parts underneath my fd in powder coat blue when I had it. Bet that is still in good condition now if the owners have looked after it properly
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Powder coating does look nice
I used POR15 on mine after Malcolm's advice
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 12:07:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 12:07:45 PM
Mmmm (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201029/282b3b604e9d2fc9393c5120d57164c7.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
BCs?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 02:34:37 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 02:34:37 PM
Spring rate seems very low Grant.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 03:10:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 03:10:18 PM
They can provide spring rates for what ever I ask for aparently, I he no idea about spring rates though
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Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 03:18:38 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 03:18:38 PM
I rate BC my 7 has them. Fitted a few sets too. Worth talking to them for your application.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 06:13:14 PM
Grant.
May help to know that due to a cancelled order we have a cut price Tein NC TEIN Flex Z kit in stock for just £650 delivered.
Not just saying it, these work really really well on the NC.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254710423080
We can also supply different spring rates if ever you needed them.
May help to know that due to a cancelled order we have a cut price Tein NC TEIN Flex Z kit in stock for just £650 delivered.
Not just saying it, these work really really well on the NC.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254710423080
We can also supply different spring rates if ever you needed them.
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Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 06:17:01 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 06:17:01 PM
Forgot to say, spring rates are 7 & 5
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 06:51:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 29, 2020, 03:18:38 PMSo how do you work out what spring rates a car requires? I take it vehicle weight is one factor?
I rate BC my 7 has them. Fitted a few sets too. Worth talking to them for your application.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 06:56:12 PM
Clives prob better qualified to answer that...this a drag application so hands up no idea.
Track you need stiffer to resist bodyroll via coilovers and uprated arbs. I assume for drag its gonna be about squat on launch and gear change. Prob best to chat to Clive me thinks.
My track mk1 coilovers are 12kg fr 9 rr. With uprated front arb.
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Track you need stiffer to resist bodyroll via coilovers and uprated arbs. I assume for drag its gonna be about squat on launch and gear change. Prob best to chat to Clive me thinks.
My track mk1 coilovers are 12kg fr 9 rr. With uprated front arb.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 07:03:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: clive on October 29, 2020, 06:17:01 PMHi Clive, thanks. I had seen them on your fb page.
Forgot to say, spring rates are 7 & 5
Are they double adjustable as fir compression and rebound seperately?
I know very little about suspension but I know I need to make my car squat at the rear and then raise slowly and the front the opposite lift quick and lower slowly, transference of weight
With the mx5 being a short ish wheel base it should get off the line quickly, well thats what happens with Pro mods that choose a slightly shorter wheel base over the longer ones which are more stable at the top end of the track when they doing 250mph
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 07:07:50 PM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2020, 07:07:50 PM
Compression AND rebound is generally on very expensive coilovers. Most are just compression.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:08:21 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:08:21 PM
These are damper adjustable as well with 16-level damping / 5 kilo springs and on setting 8 should give good traction plus the fronts on the tight 16 setting to slow droop should give a good base to work with.
To give you an idea I am on 10 kilo rears with a modified Racing Beat roll bar to make it even stiffer
To give you an idea I am on 10 kilo rears with a modified Racing Beat roll bar to make it even stiffer
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
Post by: clive on October 29, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
Quote from: boosted on October 29, 2020, 07:07:50 PM
Compression AND rebound is generally on very expensive coilovers. Most are just compression.
The Tein kit controls bump and rebound together, which was why I suggested the front be wound right up to slow rebound
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 08:21:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2020, 08:21:26 PM
Thanks Clive but I think I'm going to go for something where I can essentially "tune" the suspension as eventually I will be changing gear box and diff etc which will change how the car works won't it?
Plus the car will change in hp for sure. 20psi launches will be more brutal than 5 psi launches
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Plus the car will change in hp for sure. 20psi launches will be more brutal than 5 psi launches
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2020, 06:54:16 AM
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2020, 06:54:16 AM
Yes, your car weight determines spring rates. However, cause its a drag car, you want it to squat with IRS. So, my opinion is that with those Tein spring rates that Clive said, its a good starting point
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2020, 06:57:19 AM
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2020, 06:57:19 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 29, 2020, 07:07:50 PMExcatly. And with cheep coilovers, only just few cliks usually works.
Compression AND rebound is generally on very expensive coilovers. Most are just compression.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 11, 2020, 12:25:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 11, 2020, 12:25:23 PM
Sooo...
Rx8 5 speed gear box.. And clutch
Should u just go to one of these gear boxes as inevitably things do break and I would rather not smash an fd rx7 gear box to bits as its worth more to an Fd owner (Boosted)
and rx8 5 speed boxes are cheap, 50 quid you all said, they're also lighter? Clutches more readily available as they're push type rather than pull?
Any offers/ advice I'm all ears
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Rx8 5 speed gear box.. And clutch
Should u just go to one of these gear boxes as inevitably things do break and I would rather not smash an fd rx7 gear box to bits as its worth more to an Fd owner (Boosted
)and rx8 5 speed boxes are cheap, 50 quid you all said, they're also lighter? Clutches more readily available as they're push type rather than pull?
Any offers/ advice I'm all ears
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2020, 05:57:21 AM
Post by: re japi on November 12, 2020, 05:57:21 AM
I would go with RX-8 box.
As you reasoned pros and cons above
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
Need anyone's opinion/advice on the front of my car.
Now I had a panel made to hold the fuel cell and radiator, however now its in there I'm just happy with how little room I have got considering I have got to fit an electric water pump in there some where and also the fuel filter. Plus I want to throw a shroud and fan on the back of the rad just to get it cooled back down to help get out and do more runs.
If I extend forward using some tube I can gn 200mm which gives me loads of space.
I was going to be putting a tube in front anyway to give the fuel cell some impact protection
Iv done a quick measure up to bolt it to where the front crash bar normally mounts to on a standard car.
If anyone has any ideas on how to give it support as it's going to have a bit of weight too it, 3 gallons of methanol and a rad full of water.
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Now I had a panel made to hold the fuel cell and radiator, however now its in there I'm just happy with how little room I have got considering I have got to fit an electric water pump in there some where and also the fuel filter. Plus I want to throw a shroud and fan on the back of the rad just to get it cooled back down to help get out and do more runs.
If I extend forward using some tube I can gn 200mm which gives me loads of space.
I was going to be putting a tube in front anyway to give the fuel cell some impact protection
Iv done a quick measure up to bolt it to where the front crash bar normally mounts to on a standard car.
If anyone has any ideas on how to give it support as it's going to have a bit of weight too it, 3 gallons of methanol and a rad full of water.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 11:51:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 11:51:07 AM
Need anyone's opinion/advice on the front of my car.
Now I had a panel made to hold the fuel cell and radiator, however now its in there I'm just happy with how little room I have got considering I have got to fit an electric water pump in there some where and also the fuel filter. Plus I want to throw a shroud and fan on the back of the rad just to get it cooled back down to help get out and do more runs.
If I extend forward using some tube I can gn 200mm which gives me loads of space.
I was going to be putting a tube in front anyway to give the fuel cell some impact protection
Iv done a quick measure up to bolt it to where the front crash bar normally mounts to on a standard car.
If anyone has any ideas on how to give it support as it's going to have a bit of weight too it, 3 gallons of methanol and a rad full of water.
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Now I had a panel made to hold the fuel cell and radiator, however now its in there I'm just happy with how little room I have got considering I have got to fit an electric water pump in there some where and also the fuel filter. Plus I want to throw a shroud and fan on the back of the rad just to get it cooled back down to help get out and do more runs.
If I extend forward using some tube I can gn 200mm which gives me loads of space.
I was going to be putting a tube in front anyway to give the fuel cell some impact protection
Iv done a quick measure up to bolt it to where the front crash bar normally mounts to on a standard car.
If anyone has any ideas on how to give it support as it's going to have a bit of weight too it, 3 gallons of methanol and a rad full of water.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:56:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:56:39 PM
Made some plates to weld my new idea for the front end to give me more room(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/1e5d5aa4d1ef7859c825d50a2483924d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:58:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:58:05 PM
This is how much room I was leaving behind the front bumper. Now iv sack off the front clip for the car all together it just give me so much room for activities (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/18b45722edbb73c4d09cbd7a1e252a6e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
Enough room to fit the fuel cell in behind with the space I had so that where its going now. Front bumper is so easy to take off I can take it of in a matter of minutes to get to the fuel cell to fill it up if needs be etc(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/fc2ca80dc6514be8026b171d8ae8ae0f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:00:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:00:55 PM
So much happier with it sitting back in the bumper, I can make it all removable and build an upright to mount to this chassis leg to fix the water pump too as it is a heavier mofo(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/0e15c0e1b8105fb31bf0fd9916e7af49.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/6a0821b79fc3f9e372273340c6f7e4a4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:02:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:02:29 PM
Anyone want to buy an exedy carbon clutch, only used once, stored in the titanic. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/814da56e7d6ea4d29283740b85d48255.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/7d02e942ecfc407b3f12745a88f23af0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:02:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 07:02:53 PM
Made it like new for prospective buyers (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/baf421f5eac5f33d0aedff40ce190afd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
I now own some cosmo plates
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 08:21:13 PMOush
I now own some cosmo plates
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:27:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:27:35 PM
As you can see one face of the centre iron needs lapping, these plates have never been lapped before so should be just fine and not require re nitriding.
Carl was going to get them done but I said I would just take the plates now and we can get them done when we need it doing and prepping the parts to get stacked together.
Getting some rotors from him but haven't got the pennies just now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3a2d2a0edffac3b1f5a1557d1dc620f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/8c3cd5355c5d853f7ef9bd6cb195dbb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/fe2d8507588c5ae27499b7c6459096be.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/e6df143a09d0f0128c9b1162d0ee6600.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3b14f880af869d8efbe1b4dec85eeeb0.jpg)
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Carl was going to get them done but I said I would just take the plates now and we can get them done when we need it doing and prepping the parts to get stacked together.
Getting some rotors from him but haven't got the pennies just now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3a2d2a0edffac3b1f5a1557d1dc620f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/8c3cd5355c5d853f7ef9bd6cb195dbb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/fe2d8507588c5ae27499b7c6459096be.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/e6df143a09d0f0128c9b1162d0ee6600.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3b14f880af869d8efbe1b4dec85eeeb0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:30:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:30:08 PM
Here's a comparison of stock cosmo plates versus the stock fd lower intake, I'm trying to work out the percentage difference in surface area but my brain is failing me on how to do it but so far I have determined the fd port is close to 30% smaller in surface area compared to the cosmo plates
Thats like starting with a street ported motor and then mega street porting the street port(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/025694d7f316aea01a808694cf978176.jpg)
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Thats like starting with a street ported motor and then mega street porting the street port
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:30:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:27:35 PMNice big ports
As you can see one face of the centre iron needs lapping, these plates have never been lapped before so should be just fine and not require re nitriding.
Carl was going to get them done but I said I would just take the plates now and we can get them done when we need it doing and prepping the parts to get stacked together.
Getting some rotors from him but haven't got the pennies just now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3a2d2a0edffac3b1f5a1557d1dc620f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/8c3cd5355c5d853f7ef9bd6cb195dbb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/fe2d8507588c5ae27499b7c6459096be.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/e6df143a09d0f0128c9b1162d0ee6600.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/3b14f880af869d8efbe1b4dec85eeeb0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:31:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:31:20 PM
This is a stock fd inlet port on the centre(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/c1d6020026806636920ad99a665cde3b.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:30:08 PMJust difference in height yeah ?
Here's a comparison of stock cosmo plates versus the stock fd lower intake, I'm trying to work out the percentage difference in surface area but my brain is failing me on how to do it but so far I have determined the fd port is close to 30% smaller in surface area compared to the cosmo plates
Thats like starting with a street ported motor and then mega street porting the street port
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About 15mm ain't it ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:48:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:48:14 PM
Quick crap maths and rough measurements of the port circumference(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/824441e7c5daa1c1a89629849c4bac60.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:05:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:32:05 PMYeh the width is the same give or take a mm.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:30:08 PMJust difference in height yeah ?
Here's a comparison of stock cosmo plates versus the stock fd lower intake, I'm trying to work out the percentage difference in surface area but my brain is failing me on how to do it but so far I have determined the fd port is close to 30% smaller in surface area compared to the cosmo plates
Thats like starting with a street ported motor and then mega street porting the street port
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About 15mm ain't it ?
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They can't make them any wider as the width of the plate would effect the length of the engine and everything else etc
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:13:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:13:36 PM
So if I have worked it out correctly the cosmo port area has an increase of 43. 3%!!
That is just rediculous.
Does that translate to a 43.3% in increased "flow" or total Volume available for the engine to injest?
Simplest way to make your "stock" fd make more power than everyone else si. Ply get some cosmo plates
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That is just rediculous.
Does that translate to a 43.3% in increased "flow" or total Volume available for the engine to injest?
Simplest way to make your "stock" fd make more power than everyone else si. Ply get some cosmo plates
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
Would you just look at that, built my engine already, decided to use see through housings etc to speed up the process(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/731aee007c169bcf7b51dff04d7ace3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/29d9e52a3e8e74bcff50c501d4f335fb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:23:40 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:13:36 PMSounds about right
So if I have worked it out correctly the cosmo port area has an increase of 43. 3%!!
That is just rediculous.
Does that translate to a 43.3% in increased "flow" or total Volume available for the engine to injest?
Simplest way to make your "stock" fd make more power than everyone else si. Ply get some cosmo plates
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I'm only decent with maths until they started adding letters lol
If port is 50 mm and new is 65 that 30% bigger . Dismiss the curves on each corners from the original size
Yep sounds about right
Best tee my Cosmo engine up then
Will This 8474 work on that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:24:31 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:17:42 PMNeed a bigger intake now
Would you just look at that, built my engine already, decided to use see through housings etc to speed up the process(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/731aee007c169bcf7b51dff04d7ace3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/29d9e52a3e8e74bcff50c501d4f335fb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:26:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:24:31 PMAlready got my eye on what I'm going to use, I shall get a pictureQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:17:42 PMNeed a bigger intake now
Would you just look at that, built my engine already, decided to use see through housings etc to speed up the process(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/731aee007c169bcf7b51dff04d7ace3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/29d9e52a3e8e74bcff50c501d4f335fb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:33:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:23:40 PMYeh it will work for sure, if I think right with the larger port you should make more power with same boost due to there being more denser air going into the engine.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:13:36 PMSounds about right
So if I have worked it out correctly the cosmo port area has an increase of 43. 3%!!
That is just rediculous.
Does that translate to a 43.3% in increased "flow" or total Volume available for the engine to injest?
Simplest way to make your "stock" fd make more power than everyone else si. Ply get some cosmo plates
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I'm only decent with maths until they started adding letters lol
If port is 50 mm and new is 65 that 30% bigger . Dismiss the curves on each corners from the original size
Yep sounds about right
Best tee my Cosmo engine up then
Will This 8474 work on that
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I thinks its similar to a smaller turbo compared to a larger one. The same psi will achieve different hp simply because a larger turbo is moving a higher cfm of air just simply because of its physical size.
We won't even try to work out what happens when you throw air density into the mix lol.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:13:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:13:54 PM
Lower inlet fanimold and throttle body. Not sure if I need the 12 Injector one though probably get the 8 injector one maybe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/d33b8109d7783e07eed7560d697e1978.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/c2bfdbe0b6f05e2d8d6b19b3c0ede211.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
Maybe one of these but depends on cost lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201117/cd25da76e8efa31f9ed9f954ac901b1c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 03:29:47 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 03:29:47 PM
That's very smart
No doubt a bit costly
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Typhoon intake is 2300 dollars I think, looks great though, bully is 1500 I think, but the bully set up probably better for engine bay clearencing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 06:35:37 PMI thought the other looks smaller
Typhoon intake is 2300 dollars I think, looks great though, bully is 1500 I think, but the bully set up probably better for engine bay clearencing
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You need some photos of them fitted
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 08:18:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 06:45:35 PMThere's plenty on the website. Prety much all the drag cars use this kind of setup tbhQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 06:35:37 PMI thought the other looks smaller
Typhoon intake is 2300 dollars I think, looks great though, bully is 1500 I think, but the bully set up probably better for engine bay clearencing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 18, 2020, 07:20:18 AM
Post by: re japi on November 18, 2020, 07:20:18 AM
Holy hell, that difference between those ports is massive. But is there any room for grinding them any bigger?
Btw, same thing with FC primary ports. When you open them as far you dear, then its the same size as FDs stock...
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But is there any room for grinding them any bigger? Btw, same thing with FC primary ports. When you open them as far you dear, then its the same size as FDs stock...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:22:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:22:49 AM
I don't think you can make them much bigger, due to the water jackets but they're just massive in comparison to others.
They are this size on the the 20B, which makes sense as to why the mid plate is so huge
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They are this size on the the 20B, which makes sense as to why the mid plate is so huge
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:22:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:22:53 AM
I don't think you can make them much bigger, due to the water jackets but they're just massive in comparison to others.
They are this size on the the 20B, which makes sense as to why the mid plate is so huge
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They are this size on the the 20B, which makes sense as to why the mid plate is so huge
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 19, 2020, 04:38:09 AM
Post by: re japi on November 19, 2020, 04:38:09 AM
Yeah, I dont think you can do them much bigger. And I reckon that there is no need to even try it...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 20, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 20, 2020, 01:47:31 PM
Street port template laid over the cosmo plates secondary ports
I think this is a racing beat template or possibly a pineapple racing one, I had my fd ported to these but then extended them even further
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I think this is a racing beat template or possibly a pineapple racing one, I had my fd ported to these but then extended them even further
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 20, 2020, 01:50:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 20, 2020, 01:50:58 PM
Primary port.
I'm trying to get ahold of some xtreme rotaries porting templates. Mainly out of interest to see if there's much difference between 2 different takes on the same thing.
I'm thinking of major extend port and semi pp with this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201120/55b09453a3bb787454f30591678afe42.jpg)
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I'm trying to get ahold of some xtreme rotaries porting templates. Mainly out of interest to see if there's much difference between 2 different takes on the same thing.
I'm thinking of major extend port and semi pp with this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201120/55b09453a3bb787454f30591678afe42.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
Dug some housings out of my dad's garage, unfortunately one has a big chip in the chrome and one is sort of OK but looks like it has had an apex seal go through it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/54f33d20d162453e4646b350482ecbef.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 22, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
Post by: clive on November 22, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
If you have a close up picture, I will have a look for you.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
This is the one with a good size chunk of chrome hanging off. Other than that it looks great everywhere else(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/3c20206b73d6ba9c6b22c98bbde94dff.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:51:44 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:51:44 AM
Some scoring on this one, most definately had a seal through this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/be826112d8b2fa9196cd9e9d861448ad.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:52:56 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:52:56 AM
The smallest of chunks missing here. I certainly wouldn't want to use them in an engine I'm looking for a lot of power from(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/40d706942f26096826008545468d5a30.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 09:57:20 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 09:57:20 AM
Looking through your post grant....
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The woman on the ad looks shocked at the chrome when scrolling
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:57:29 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:57:29 AM
I found these from ozzy land, brand new semi pp. Probably end up purchasing these nearer the time I'm want them as it work about 1900 to my door. However most likely be able to get some really good used ones with a semi pp for half that over here maybe. I guess it's just whether I want new housings or not really(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/ba6eab98542cd2b400dac60645ebbf3f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:59:48 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 09:57:20 AM
Looking through your post grant....
The woman on the ad looks shocked at the chrome when scrolling
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Yeh. Can't remember where these housings came from tbh. Might have been from my fd when I blew it up many years ago
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 10:17:01 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 10:17:01 AM
Is it possible to get housings rechromed r do you just bin them ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 10:17:01 AMIv seen get ground but it depends on the extent of the condition of them, gouges from apex seal failures prety much make them garage ornaments but chatter marks etc can be ok.
Is it possible to get housings rechromed r do you just bin them ?
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I'm. Not sure if anyone in the UK does it, I think someone did have a go a few years ago but don't know if they succeeded with it.
Recon at a couple hundred rather than 1100 brand new is more appealing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 10:27:47 AM
Post by: Jamie R on November 22, 2020, 10:27:47 AM
Suppose it needs to be weighed up if you wanna go down the pp route ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
Yeh, I think these are junk tbh, one might be OK for a mediocre build but not for what I'm aiming for.
Just trying to find the name of the company that re conditions them
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:18:16 AM
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
Yeh, I think these are junk tbh, one might be OK for a mediocre build but not for what I'm aiming for.
Just trying to find the name of the company that re conditions them
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We do that when they are useable Grant. Been doing for many years.
Those housings aren't so good enough for reconditioning though.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 22, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
Post by: clive on November 22, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
OK, these are not well!
Maybe worth knowing we have supplied five new full PP engines in pieces over the last year to a french company building replica works Gen 1 NA engines.
Maybe worth knowing we have supplied five new full PP engines in pieces over the last year to a french company building replica works Gen 1 NA engines.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:20:24 AM
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:20:24 AM
There's something to be said for using rotor housings that have been through many heat cycles for bigger power rather than new ones...
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:23:03 AM
Post by: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: clive on November 22, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
OK, these are not well!
Maybe worth knowing we have supplied five new full PP engines in pieces over the last year to a french company building replica works Gen 1 NA engines.
He is not wanting full big PP housings Clive but wanting to build a semi PP using small Peripheral ports along with side ports still.
They match to combi port manifolds.
That's something we have done in the past too.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:18:16 AMDidn't know you did them, great to know. You know I will be getting them from you anywayQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
Yeh, I think these are junk tbh, one might be OK for a mediocre build but not for what I'm aiming for.
Just trying to find the name of the company that re conditions them
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We do that when they are useable Grant. Been doing for many years.
Those housings aren't so good enough for reconditioning though.
These are garage ornaments for sure.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 11:47:54 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2020, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Carl on November 22, 2020, 11:23:03 AMNot a full PP, just semi PP, but maybe a full PP eventuallyQuote from: clive on November 22, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
OK, these are not well!
Maybe worth knowing we have supplied five new full PP engines in pieces over the last year to a french company building replica works Gen 1 NA engines.
He is not wanting full big PP housings Clive but wanting to build a semi PP using small Peripheral ports along with side ports still.
They match to combi port manifolds.
That's something we have done in the past too.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 23, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 23, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
Just ordered all of the fuel hose fitting I needall an - 10 apart from the feed from the fuel cell to the fuel pump... That's AN - 16 yeh that's massive
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 11:15:28 AM
AN-16 fuel line.
This beast is what goes from my fuel cell to the fuel pump.
Slight issue is that my steering rack is in the way as its too fat(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201125/06fdfd15b819794f30fdb560ccda3dc2.jpg)
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This beast is what goes from my fuel cell to the fuel pump.
Slight issue is that my steering rack is in the way as its too fat
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 11:16:42 AM
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 11:16:42 AM
Tis large!! Looks more like an oil cooler line
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on November 25, 2020, 12:47:01 PM
Post by: re japi on November 25, 2020, 12:47:01 PM
Hole hose Batman
That is massive. 10mm inner size flows quite enough
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That is massive. 10mm inner size flows quite enough
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 12:54:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 12:54:09 PM
This is just the feed to the pump, it drops to - 10 after for the filter and rails. Which should be turning up today hooefully
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 12:56:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 12:56:28 PM
The steering rack being in the way is rather annoying though.
The mx5 rack sits in a different place so there's a highly likely chance I'm going to have to swap back to the mx5 subframe and rack
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The mx5 rack sits in a different place so there's a highly likely chance I'm going to have to swap back to the mx5 subframe and rack
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:08 PM
Ordered some 1.5 inch tube, first delivery they sent me 1.5 inch box
Rang up and complained so they sent me tube but left me the box
Win win
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Rang up and complained so they sent me tube but left me the box
Win win
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:36 PM
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:28:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:28:21 PM
Fuel line and fittings have arrived (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201125/5815f7175152de75cf5a28ff782eb8b8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 04:31:20 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 04:31:20 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:36 PMTime to build a buggy
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 05:01:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 04:31:20 PMWould be a small buggy with only 5 metres totalQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 25, 2020, 04:27:36 PMTime to build a buggy
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This is for the front end.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:09:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:09:41 PM
Can anyone explain how to take this OFF PLEASE,.
Trying to pull the rack apart as I think I can modify it to clear my fuel lines as I'm taking the magnet stuff out to convert to manual rack anyway.
As it is only the casing that is in the way of my fuel line
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OFF PLEASE,.Trying to pull the rack apart as I think I can modify it to clear my fuel lines as I'm taking the magnet stuff out to convert to manual rack anyway.
As it is only the casing that is in the way of my fuel line
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:10:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:10:28 PM
This(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/84d7efaedda2cd11fab9fc1a85266a8a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:10:28 PMThink Jamie done a post in his Rotus page
This(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/84d7efaedda2cd11fab9fc1a85266a8a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
Managed, it just unscrews(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/53d6db9de2ddfc4b984ca86de3f7db79.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on November 26, 2020, 04:27:58 PM
Post by: boosted on November 26, 2020, 04:27:58 PM
Lefty loosey righty tighty?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:28:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:28:01 PM
If I notch this a bit with a grinder it should clear for my fuel line.
Just need to not go through to where the bearing thingy sits on the inside.
There's shouldn't matter as I'm taking the magnets out which leaves a gap on the inside so if I do go too deep then at least I'm not damaging anything detrimental (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/d38120dee63c40d2456f2f4cb9e83b76.jpg)
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Just need to not go through to where the bearing thingy sits on the inside.
There's shouldn't matter as I'm taking the magnets out which leaves a gap on the inside so if I do go too deep then at least I'm not damaging anything detrimental (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/d38120dee63c40d2456f2f4cb9e83b76.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
Right at the bottom where its steps down to smallest I'd is where I don't want to hit really but measured it to check and should be ok(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/5b03420e769a821a1453a42abdf6d195.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
Can't wait to cut these off(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/c8f930c2d60e43a192232af8bd520974.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:35 PMThink Grayham used a sharp wood chisel when he did mine
Can't wait to cut these off
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 05:21:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 05:21:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 04:39:35 PMI'm getting the grinder out tomorrow, just tried cutting it with a hack saw as don't want to scare the kids but can't be bothered with that at this timeQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 04:29:35 PMThink Grayham used a sharp wood chisel when he did mine
Can't wait to cut these off
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Need to check what exactly needs welding a nd where this brass Bush goes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 05:55:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 05:55:54 PM
You need to grind off more that you realise
The resin that holds it all together is a pig
Try cutting 2 grooves about 10-15 mm apart down the length.
Chisel that bit out then try n "peel" the windings off .
Some extra cuts on the back will loosen it.
You'll needs some extra swear words beginning with C too
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The resin that holds it all together is a pig
Try cutting 2 grooves about 10-15 mm apart down the length.
Chisel that bit out then try n "peel" the windings off .
Some extra cuts on the back will loosen it.
You'll needs some extra swear words beginning with C too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 06:37:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 05:55:54 PMI just searched through your thread to get an idea of what I'm trying to achieve, I might end up doing all this and it still might not clear the fuel line.
You need to grind off more that you realise
The resin that holds it all together is a pig
Try cutting 2 grooves about 10-15 mm apart down the length.
Chisel that bit out then try n "peel" the windings off .
Some extra cuts on the back will loosen it.
You'll needs some extra swear words beginning with C too
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Also if I'm honest the mx5 rack just sits in a better position in the engine bay compared to using the rx8 rack and subframe like I am BUT I'd really not have to disassemble the whole front end and start again right now
I'm going to put lots of cuts into it with grinder and be careful not to go too deep like you put in your description
The mx5 rack is a fraction of the weight too BTW, even with the magnets taken out of the rx8 one I bet its still heavier
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
Yeah the 8s rack is a beast.
I stripped mine apart for 3 reasons, eliminating all the potential electrical gremlins that I had for months on my 8, save a few lbs and I just don't think I need power steering on a lightweight lotus.
I'll be honest when I fixed the steering on the 8, I didn't like it, it felt too light, definitely lost feel. Somewhere in between working and not working would be spot on.
Now, obviously we've not met, so I don't want to sound condescending here or judge your abilities with an angle grinder..... but don't be scared of being brutal.
Just keep cutting, you'll get lots of smoke and dust from the resin, and copper fragments everywhere. You'll know when to stop going deeper as when you hit the steel tube you'll get pretty orange sparks.
I wasted hours being conservative with it. Don't waste time chiselling and beating the crap out of it. You'll get no where
The resin touches the steel tube, almost bonds onto it. So until you see sparks just keep going
Hope that helps
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I stripped mine apart for 3 reasons, eliminating all the potential electrical gremlins that I had for months on my 8, save a few lbs and I just don't think I need power steering on a lightweight lotus.
I'll be honest when I fixed the steering on the 8, I didn't like it, it felt too light, definitely lost feel. Somewhere in between working and not working would be spot on.
Now, obviously we've not met, so I don't want to sound condescending here or judge your abilities with an angle grinder..... but don't be scared of being brutal.
Just keep cutting, you'll get lots of smoke and dust from the resin, and copper fragments everywhere. You'll know when to stop going deeper as when you hit the steel tube you'll get pretty orange sparks.
I wasted hours being conservative with it. Don't waste time chiselling and beating the crap out of it. You'll get no where
The resin touches the steel tube, almost bonds onto it. So until you see sparks just keep going
Hope that helps
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 26, 2020, 07:22:02 PM
Post by: clive on November 26, 2020, 07:22:02 PM
Grant /
If you can hold off for a couple of days, I have a manual rack in one of my garages I bought off e-bay, which from memory was off an NC that you can have for the price of postage.
I wouldn't fit the RX-8, but if this works for you this will save weight over a chopped up electric rack.
If you can hold off for a couple of days, I have a manual rack in one of my garages I bought off e-bay, which from memory was off an NC that you can have for the price of postage.
I wouldn't fit the RX-8, but if this works for you this will save weight over a chopped up electric rack.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 07:35:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: clive on November 26, 2020, 07:22:02 PMThat would be great Clive as although I'm going to do this I still don't think I will get enough clearence but always worth a try.
Grant /
If you can hold off for a couple of days, I have a manual rack in one of my garages I bought off e-bay, which from memory was off an NC that you can have for the price of postage.
I wouldn't fit the RX-8, but if this works for you this will save weight over a chopped up electric rack.
The manual rack will be perfect. I will have to take the mx5 sub frame to get sandblasted so I can workout where to trim it.
Just let me know how much postage is
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 07:36:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PMI'm better with a cutting disc than I am with any other tool
Yeah the 8s rack is a beast.
I stripped mine apart for 3 reasons, eliminating all the potential electrical gremlins that I had for months on my 8, save a few lbs and I just don't think I need power steering on a lightweight lotus.
I'll be honest when I fixed the steering on the 8, I didn't like it, it felt too light, definitely lost feel. Somewhere in between working and not working would be spot on.
Now, obviously we've not met, so I don't want to sound condescending here or judge your abilities with an angle grinder..... but don't be scared of being brutal.
Just keep cutting, you'll get lots of smoke and dust from the resin, and copper fragments everywhere. You'll know when to stop going deeper as when you hit the steel tube you'll get pretty orange sparks.
I wasted hours being conservative with it. Don't waste time chiselling and beating the crap out of it. You'll get no where
The resin touches the steel tube, almost bonds onto it. So until you see sparks just keep going
Hope that helps
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 08:03:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 08:03:26 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 07:36:26 PMVernier callipers yeah ?Quote from: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PMI'm better with a cutting disc than I am with any other tool
Yeah the 8s rack is a beast.
I stripped mine apart for 3 reasons, eliminating all the potential electrical gremlins that I had for months on my 8, save a few lbs and I just don't think I need power steering on a lightweight lotus.
I'll be honest when I fixed the steering on the 8, I didn't like it, it felt too light, definitely lost feel. Somewhere in between working and not working would be spot on.
Now, obviously we've not met, so I don't want to sound condescending here or judge your abilities with an angle grinder..... but don't be scared of being brutal.
Just keep cutting, you'll get lots of smoke and dust from the resin, and copper fragments everywhere. You'll know when to stop going deeper as when you hit the steel tube you'll get pretty orange sparks.
I wasted hours being conservative with it. Don't waste time chiselling and beating the crap out of it. You'll get no where
The resin touches the steel tube, almost bonds onto it. So until you see sparks just keep going
Hope that helps
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 08:29:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 08:29:17 PM
I like to think of my verniers as verynears, as they're close enough
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 09:02:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on November 26, 2020, 09:02:52 PM
You're so going against my cdo !
It's like ocd but it's in alphabetical order like it should be
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 27, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 27, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Started cutting the crap off the rack but got bored quickly, simply don't have a big enough chisel
So I decided to start cutting pipe instead for the front end
With a little bit of CTAD (Cable Tie Aided Design)
Cut the lower bar also and started cutting and notching the support bars to go between the upp and lower but my drill decided to set on fire
Don't know why people need those fancy tube notchers, iv managed just fine with a hole saw, set square and a tape measure
Progress haulted for now however I need my drill for work tonight ffs going have to steal my dads(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/7d2cd4148fc0ccce7e1b58e4d1d44a0d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/a7db78dc1fcf4cdc4fa9797c7402f33b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/597ae1c5de430811868beb0678c86fef.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/ca1d8b617debb5eaddfc88ee01b47e82.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/8a06aaaaa9dfe9c79bfe08b21def0ed0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/071d1bfcae1c86260faacbe737b45830.jpg)
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So I decided to start cutting pipe instead for the front end
With a little bit of CTAD (Cable Tie Aided Design)
Cut the lower bar also and started cutting and notching the support bars to go between the upp and lower but my drill decided to set on fire
Don't know why people need those fancy tube notchers, iv managed just fine with a hole saw, set square and a tape measure
Progress haulted for now however I need my drill for work tonight ffs
going have to steal my dads(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/7d2cd4148fc0ccce7e1b58e4d1d44a0d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/a7db78dc1fcf4cdc4fa9797c7402f33b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/597ae1c5de430811868beb0678c86fef.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/ca1d8b617debb5eaddfc88ee01b47e82.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/8a06aaaaa9dfe9c79bfe08b21def0ed0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/071d1bfcae1c86260faacbe737b45830.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 28, 2020, 01:50:55 PM
Post by: clive on November 28, 2020, 01:50:55 PM
Sorry Grant, the racks no good for you, it a fluid NC rack so you wont gain anything :(
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2020, 02:50:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2020, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: clive on November 28, 2020, 01:50:55 PMJust a standard nc rack? I'm going to be swapping back the the nc subframe as the rx8 rack won't work without a lot of cutting and faffing around.
Sorry Grant, the racks no good for you, it a fluid NC rack so you wont gain anything :(
Plus the nc rack is a lot smaller and lighter
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 28, 2020, 05:21:12 PM
Post by: clive on November 28, 2020, 05:21:12 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2020, 02:50:39 PMQuote from: clive on November 28, 2020, 01:50:55 PMJust a standard nc rack? I'm going to be swapping back the the nc subframe as the rx8 rack won't work without a lot of cutting and faffing around.
Sorry Grant, the racks no good for you, it a fluid NC rack so you wont gain anything :(
Plus the nc rack is a lot smaller and lighter
I thought the NC and RX-8 rack mounts would have been the same so bought this one off ebay and found it mounts completly different!.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2020, 06:56:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2020, 06:56:15 PM
Iv got one already left over from when I stripped the mx5
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
The term measure twice cut once couldn't have been a better rule to live by today last piece of tube...
Good job iv got some box to use(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/31b0518b12c4ec6d2eda2512fc9b7212.jpg)
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last piece of tube...Good job iv got some box to use(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/31b0518b12c4ec6d2eda2512fc9b7212.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 03:56:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 03:56:29 PM
Just need some super glue now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/1ee1f548b53ad7e7219142c8c5ca1907.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 03:58:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 29, 2020, 03:58:12 PM
Going to cut 2 more upright as I can use those for mounting points for the rad and fuel cell, there's a bit of angle to the top to the bottom which I'd fine for the rad but not for the fuel so will have space the top out a little bit
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 29, 2020, 04:18:32 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 29, 2020, 04:18:32 PM
Very neat
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Just purchased some low comp 8.5:1 rotors
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PMOk
Just purchased some low comp 8.5:1 rotors
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What does that mean to normal people ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 05:41:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PMPrety much same as piston engines really.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PMOk
Just purchased some low comp 8.5:1 rotors
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What does that mean to normal people ?
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With lower comp you reduce the likelihood of detonation, albeit you will most likely make less hp with a lower compression ratio you can make it back up with a bit more boost pressure
Plus if you think about it a lower comp engine has more volume to fill with air and fuel
F1 turbo cars used to run low compression and big boost but iirc they started limiting the amount of boost they could run so to counter act the lower boost pressures they increased the compression ratio to make hp. Obviously they used magic fuel too to suppress any det.
The low comp rotors are slightly heavier than other rotors, however that means they can have material removed which I intend to have the rotors side clearence, lightened, scalloped and balanced.
The scalloping will lower the compression also, and if I get the face of the rotors machined too that will lower the compression also.
From what iv been googling, you tubing the machining of the rotor faces is a great thing to do as it just gives that bit of. Gap between the face and the rotor housing if under high boost the rotors decide to wobble a bit.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 05:41:21 PMThat does make senseQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PMPrety much same as piston engines really.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PMOk
Just purchased some low comp 8.5:1 rotors
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What does that mean to normal people ?
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With lower comp you reduce the likelihood of detonation, albeit you will most likely make less hp with a lower compression ratio you can make it back up with a bit more boost pressure
Plus if you think about it a lower comp engine has more volume to fill with air and fuel
F1 turbo cars used to run low compression and big boost but iirc they started limiting the amount of boost they could run so to counter act the lower boost pressures they increased the compression ratio to make hp. Obviously they used magic fuel too to suppress any det.
The low comp rotors are slightly heavier than other rotors, however that means they can have material removed which I intend to have the rotors side clearence, lightened, scalloped and balanced.
The scalloping will lower the compression also, and if I get the face of the rotors machined too that will lower the compression also.
From what iv been googling, you tubing the machining of the rotor faces is a great thing to do as it just gives that bit of. Gap between the face and the rotor housing if under high boost the rotors decide to wobble a bit.
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I remember some early piston turbo engine being a lower compression
So where do they come from or are they made ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 05:57:28 PMTheu come from the series 4 rx7, 84-88 I thinkQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 05:41:21 PMThat does make senseQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 04:45:36 PMPrety much same as piston engines really.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 12:47:06 PMOk
Just purchased some low comp 8.5:1 rotors
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What does that mean to normal people ?
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With lower comp you reduce the likelihood of detonation, albeit you will most likely make less hp with a lower compression ratio you can make it back up with a bit more boost pressure
Plus if you think about it a lower comp engine has more volume to fill with air and fuel
F1 turbo cars used to run low compression and big boost but iirc they started limiting the amount of boost they could run so to counter act the lower boost pressures they increased the compression ratio to make hp. Obviously they used magic fuel too to suppress any det.
The low comp rotors are slightly heavier than other rotors, however that means they can have material removed which I intend to have the rotors side clearence, lightened, scalloped and balanced.
The scalloping will lower the compression also, and if I get the face of the rotors machined too that will lower the compression also.
From what iv been googling, you tubing the machining of the rotor faces is a great thing to do as it just gives that bit of. Gap between the face and the rotor housing if under high boost the rotors decide to wobble a bit.
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I remember some early piston turbo engine being a lower compression
So where do they come from or are they made ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 09:40:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 04, 2020, 09:40:12 PM
Hopefully be able to get my rotors looking like this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201204/320abf3a60fa9ba13586d4ef06b9df4f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2020, 10:32:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 06, 2020, 10:32:47 PM
Spicy doritos(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201206/2fa74732164798a89276c3cad0151898.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:47:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:47:39 PM
Over night parts from China are 3 weeks slower than over night parts from Japan
Waited 3 weeks for this
And now realised I don't have a spanner big enough (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201208/73e66ab1af8c01f8fa54327bc7e690c6.jpg)
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Waited 3 weeks for this
And now realised I don't have a spanner big enough (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201208/73e66ab1af8c01f8fa54327bc7e690c6.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:57:27 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:57:27 PM
Methanol size on the left, weak ass petrol on the right(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201208/5c1fe7630f8019f529b406c48e8f6473.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 08, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 08, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:47:39 PMWhat size is it
Over night parts from China are 3 weeks slower than over night parts from Japan
Waited 3 weeks for this
And now realised I don't have a spanner big enough (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201208/73e66ab1af8c01f8fa54327bc7e690c6.jpg)
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I bought a job lot of big engineers spanners
Could well have one in there
I only needed the 22 mm which was the smallest .
Yeah China stuff shite at the mo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2020, 06:22:51 PM
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2020, 06:22:51 PM
Im on 6 weeks and waiting for my Wuhan wing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 08, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 08, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 08, 2020, 06:22:51 PMThat's becouse it's Wuhan so has to via Italy
Im on 6 weeks and waiting for my Wuhan wing
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I do hope you get that written on it when it's fitted
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 09:24:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 08, 2020, 06:21:35 PMIv just ordered the spanners as biggest iv got is 24mm, got an 16 with 12 on the other side and an 10 with an 8 coming. Should have some really as definately need themQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 08, 2020, 05:47:39 PMWhat size is it
Over night parts from China are 3 weeks slower than over night parts from Japan
Waited 3 weeks for this
And now realised I don't have a spanner big enough (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201208/73e66ab1af8c01f8fa54327bc7e690c6.jpg)
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I bought a job lot of big engineers spanners
Could well have one in there
I only needed the 22 mm which was the smallest .
Yeah China stuff shite at the mo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 06:56:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 12, 2020, 06:56:53 PM
Just looking on summit website for wheels, only about 3,000 different wheels to choose from and they're cheap too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 11:08:56 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 11:08:56 AM
Managed to get the front end welded up by my dad
Just measured up for some radiator mounting tabs so need to cut those out, also have the fittings coming for all the water lines.
Also just waiting for an invoice from JBR in Australia for all my ecu and ignition so should hopefully have all that before Xmas.
Once all the fabbing is done it's all coming out again to change the subframe and get the flywheel bolted to the block.... Just need a massive torque wrench(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/ab80c1c911098490378099bfc3f0b4a4.jpg)
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Just measured up for some radiator mounting tabs so need to cut those out, also have the fittings coming for all the water lines.
Also just waiting for an invoice from JBR in Australia for all my ecu and ignition so should hopefully have all that before Xmas.
Once all the fabbing is done it's all coming out again to change the subframe and get the flywheel bolted to the block.... Just need a massive torque wrench(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/ab80c1c911098490378099bfc3f0b4a4.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2020, 12:34:08 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2020, 12:34:08 PM
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Managed to get the front end welded up by my dad
Just measured up for some radiator mounting tabs so need to cut those out, also have the fittings coming for all the water lines.
Also just waiting for an invoice from JBR in Australia for all my ecu and ignition so should hopefully have all that before Xmas.
Once all the fabbing is done it's all coming out again to change the subframe and get the flywheel bolted to the block.... Just need a massive torque wrench(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201214/ab80c1c911098490378099bfc3f0b4a4.jpg)
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Grant do what we did, welded a 54mm 1" drive socket to a huge box section
Can always machine the weld off in the lathe after
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
What swear word dictates the correct torque to set it at?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2020, 12:46:46 PM
Post by: boosted on December 14, 2020, 12:46:46 PM
FT
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on December 14, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Well if you tip the car or flip the engine stand it's tight enough m
Or use a cordless Milwaukee drive thingy and give it 12 ugga duggas
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 01:30:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 01:30:09 PM
I was thinking of using my half inch wratchet and some locktite?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 04:33:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 04:33:25 PM
Had a chat earlier with my dad and we were in agreement that rather than just doing drag events why I can't do half mile runs aswell?
All. I need is a larger fuel cell, I would say 5 gallons would be enough and possibly require a radiator with more volume, and I am prety sure they do the same size radiator I have got but it is 3 inches thick although the water temp should be alright
And I would also have to put an oil cooler in, (I'm not bothering with one for drag racing, the engine simply won't be running long enough to get the oil hot)
The current record is 177mph set by Rob Dahm in his 800 hp 3 rotor rx7... However what's the point in chasing and claiming records if no one else is competing against you to achieve the same goal lol
Any thoughts on half mile runs?
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All. I need is a larger fuel cell, I would say 5 gallons would be enough and possibly require a radiator with more volume, and I am prety sure they do the same size radiator I have got but it is 3 inches thick although the water temp should be alright
And I would also have to put an oil cooler in, (I'm not bothering with one for drag racing, the engine simply won't be running long enough to get the oil hot)
The current record is 177mph set by Rob Dahm in his 800 hp 3 rotor rx7... However what's the point in chasing and claiming records if no one else is competing against you to achieve the same goal lol
Any thoughts on half mile runs?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 14, 2020, 04:52:41 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 14, 2020, 04:52:41 PM
How long is the drag strip then ?
I thought they were pretty much the same thing
Oops
Sorry
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Oops
Sorry
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 05:46:25 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 14, 2020, 05:46:25 PM
1/4 mile, 1320 feet for drag racing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 02:55:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 02:55:34 PM
Water hoes and hoe fittings arrived
AN12... Yeh they're not cheap (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201215/de716dad0dc9c9a573b5e943484696a7.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2020, 03:38:17 PM
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2020, 03:38:17 PM
is this because your running Auntie Ethel? Gotta flow 25% more?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2020, 03:39:25 PM
Post by: boosted on December 15, 2020, 03:39:25 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 14, 2020, 04:52:41 PMTil you see the sausage then run for it!
How long is the drag strip then ?
I thought they were pretty much the same thing
Oops
Sorry
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 04:37:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 15, 2020, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: boosted on December 15, 2020, 03:38:17 PMNo these fitting are for the water lines.
is this because your running Auntie Ethel? Gotta flow 25% more?
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I am using an10 for the fuel line though.
Think iv spent 300 quid on fittings and line so far but think iv got them all now apart from a couple for the oil lines
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Hoes hoes hoes everywhere, I'm mean hose not hoes
Not matter how many times I went through which fittings I needed iv come to realise that I still need a couple more
Getting there though. Welded some tabs on for the radiator so that is held in place now, hopefully get around to making 2 small brackets for the water pump and fuel filter next
Nylon braided hose, teflon and regular is so much nicer to work with than steel braided hose. Only had one 30 quid fitting give me grief but eventually played ball and went on. Whether or not they're all going to be leak free is another question though
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Not matter how many times I went through which fittings I needed iv come to realise that I still need a couple more
Getting there though. Welded some tabs on for the radiator so that is held in place now, hopefully get around to making 2 small brackets for the water pump and fuel filter next
Nylon braided hose, teflon and regular is so much nicer to work with than steel braided hose. Only had one 30 quid fitting give me grief but eventually played ball and went on. Whether or not they're all going to be leak free is another question though
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:17:09 AM
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:17:09 AM
Looking good mate
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
Post by: re japi on December 22, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
Oh, does that fuel tank have original "filling stuff" in it? If it does, get rid off it asap
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 22, 2020, 08:24:37 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 22, 2020, 08:24:37 AM
Thanks Jarno, yes Iv taken the foam out, James told me when I got it as methanol will turn it to goo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:47:26 PM
Post by: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:47:26 PM
Taking shape really nicely Grant :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 22, 2020, 03:00:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 22, 2020, 03:00:47 PM
Quote from: Casey on December 22, 2020, 12:47:26 PMThanks, there's not a hug amount of stuff do now really, just got to prioritise jobs now
Taking shape really nicely Grant :great:
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2020, 07:52:27 AM
Post by: re japi on December 23, 2020, 07:52:27 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 22, 2020, 08:24:37 AMActually, normal fuel will turn it to crap too
Thanks Jarno, yes Iv taken the foam out, James told me when I got it as methanol will turn it to goo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 05:22:48 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 05:22:48 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 03:06:02 PMJust caught up on this, nice install, you have acres of space left.
Hoes hoes hoes everywhere, I'm mean hose not hoes
Not matter how many times I went through which fittings I needed iv come to realise that I still need a couple more
Getting there though. Welded some tabs on for the radiator so that is held in place now, hopefully get around to making 2 small brackets for the water pump and fuel filter next
Nylon braided hose, teflon and regular is so much nicer to work with than steel braided hose. Only had one 30 quid fitting give me grief but eventually played ball and went on. Whether or not they're all going to be leak free is another question though
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You could have dropped a 26b in there loll
Turbo location looks factory fitted .
Do you have an estimated 1/4 mile time for all your hard efforts ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:00:35 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 05:22:48 AM9.99 and 140 mph are what I want to achieve and then see from there how much more time I can shave off. Ultimately the gear box will probably be the limiting factor, but also the diff and drive shafts I think.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 21, 2020, 03:06:02 PMJust caught up on this, nice install, you have acres of space left.
Hoes hoes hoes everywhere, I'm mean hose not hoes
Not matter how many times I went through which fittings I needed iv come to realise that I still need a couple more
Getting there though. Welded some tabs on for the radiator so that is held in place now, hopefully get around to making 2 small brackets for the water pump and fuel filter next
Nylon braided hose, teflon and regular is so much nicer to work with than steel braided hose. Only had one 30 quid fitting give me grief but eventually played ball and went on. Whether or not they're all going to be leak free is another question though
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You could have dropped a 26b in there loll
Turbo location looks factory fitted .
Do you have an estimated 1/4 mile time for all your hard efforts ?
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With the semi pp engine and the turbo I am looking at, an s480, I want to make 1000hp or as close as possible and go for 8.50s
On the plus side of things I saw a dyno sheet on fb yesterday, using a slightly larger turbo than mine but on a street port and using ethanol fuel they made some considerable hp
Here's the dyno sheet
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:03:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:03:39 AM
Thats 719hp @ 30 psi of boost which is what I was hoping to to run on the current engine
That should see well into the 9s, the car weighs naff all, so it's going to be exciting to drive. Especially with the short wheel base
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That should see well into the 9s, the car weighs naff all, so it's going to be exciting to drive. Especially with the short wheel base
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:03:39 AMWow that's big numbers
Thats 719hp @ 30 psi of boost which is what I was hoping to to run on the current engine
That should see well into the 9s, the car weighs naff all, so it's going to be exciting to drive. Especially with the short wheel base
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Is it that as your driving such a short distance that it doesn't put too much strain on the engine ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 09:57:10 AM
Post by: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 09:57:10 AM
What an animal !
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 09:06:30 AMDrag racing outs the greatest amount of stress on a car/engine in the shortest amount of timeQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:03:39 AMWow that's big numbers
Thats 719hp @ 30 psi of boost which is what I was hoping to to run on the current engine
That should see well into the 9s, the car weighs naff all, so it's going to be exciting to drive. Especially with the short wheel base
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Is it that as your driving such a short distance that it doesn't put too much strain on the engine ?
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Because the current engine hasn't been balanced or clearenced etc I won't want to rev it much passed 8500rpm but I can make up for hp with more boost rather than revving it out. Well that's what I hope will work
Don't forget iv got a burnout out to do and a drag strip has more ( a lot more) traction than a circuit has so the loads the engine takes are multiplied drastically. So if you have a weak link it will often show itself quickly, whether it's driveline or engine.
Preferably you want the tyres and clutch to be the ones to let go first as they're sacrificial elements lol
I honestly think that the engine won't be an issue and should give us some reliability.
Ultimately once the second engine goes in a want to keep this first engine aside and you know put it in another mx5 as an NA motor for track days....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on December 24, 2020, 09:57:10 AMThat's the goals anyway, getting there is another thing
What an animal !
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 10:05:19 AMSounds quite excitingQuote from: Mr Spiller on December 24, 2020, 09:06:30 AMDrag racing outs the greatest amount of stress on a car/engine in the shortest amount of timeQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 09:03:39 AMWow that's big numbers
Thats 719hp @ 30 psi of boost which is what I was hoping to to run on the current engine
That should see well into the 9s, the car weighs naff all, so it's going to be exciting to drive. Especially with the short wheel base
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Is it that as your driving such a short distance that it doesn't put too much strain on the engine ?
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Because the current engine hasn't been balanced or clearenced etc I won't want to rev it much passed 8500rpm but I can make up for hp with more boost rather than revving it out. Well that's what I hope will work
Don't forget iv got a burnout out to do and a drag strip has more ( a lot more) traction than a circuit has so the loads the engine takes are multiplied drastically. So if you have a weak link it will often show itself quickly, whether it's driveline or engine.
Preferably you want the tyres and clutch to be the ones to let go first as they're sacrificial elements lol
I honestly think that the engine won't be an issue and should give us some reliability.
Ultimately once the second engine goes in a want to keep this first engine aside and you know put it in another mx5 as an NA motor for track days....
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I for one would love to see this go as and when it's ready
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2020, 11:36:15 AM
Post by: boosted on December 24, 2020, 11:36:15 AM
Yep will have to come along..fanboy pitcrew!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 12:14:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 12:14:31 PM
Just be prepared to cry.. As when the methanol hits you in the face it stings.
Think I'm going to get some go pros to attach to the car too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 07:47:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 24, 2020, 07:47:28 PM
There's got to be an easier way than using AN fittings and lines iv bought so many now and still need more.
Next project is getting push on hoses and barbed fittings
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iv bought so many now and still need more.Next project is getting push on hoses and barbed fittings
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2020, 08:37:07 PM
Post by: re japi on December 24, 2020, 08:37:07 PM
That is true. You can spend a fortune to those things and still dont have enough 
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 03:19:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 03:19:31 PM
Going to be an ever so slight delay in progress as iv blown the engine in my van up.
Snapped cam belt which stripped the cam gear teeth off, bent valves, hold the piston and possibly bent the crank
So currently having to buy a new one, but it's ok as the deposit should help with having to pay a vat bill
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Snapped cam belt which stripped the cam gear teeth off, bent valves, hold the piston and possibly bent the crank
So currently having to buy a new one, but it's ok as the deposit should help with having to pay a vat bill
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 03:54:03 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 09, 2021, 03:54:03 PM
Ah crap news !!!
Damn piston thingys !!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
Post by: Casey on January 09, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
:( :( :(
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 03:19:31 PMWhat van do you have Grant ?
Going to be an ever so slight delay in progress as iv blown the engine in my van up.
Snapped cam belt which stripped the cam gear teeth off, bent valves, hold the piston and possibly bent the crank
So currently having to buy a new one, but it's ok as the deposit should help with having to pay a vat bill
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 09:53:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 09, 2021, 09:24:45 PMIv got a Ford transit connect. Its at the garage now, lad is looking for replacement engine. He's spoken to a few people so far but they were too expensive so he will keep looking Monday when he has more timeQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 09, 2021, 03:19:31 PMWhat van do you have Grant ?
Going to be an ever so slight delay in progress as iv blown the engine in my van up.
Snapped cam belt which stripped the cam gear teeth off, bent valves, hold the piston and possibly bent the crank
So currently having to buy a new one, but it's ok as the deposit should help with having to pay a vat bill
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I need a bigger van anyway so I can tow the drag car and take enough gear away for weekends at the race track, just wish the engine hadn't gone, as I was going to get a new van anyway
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 05:17:09 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 05:17:09 PM
Wondered was it a vivaro
Seem to be having loads of trouble with ours at the mo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 05:17:09 PMI'm going to be buying a vivaro, brand new 2020 version
Wondered was it a vivaro
Seem to be having loads of trouble with ours at the mo
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:30:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:30:31 PM
https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-new-cars/vauxhall/vivaro/3100-2-0d-120ps-elite-h1-van/0/ref/blk_v57i53l5czgajkdv
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 05:43:03 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 05:43:03 PM
Ours a bit older
Just out of warranty and it's costing a fair bit of money .
The new ones have a 2.5 ton rowing weight which is good
Is it the same chassis etc as Peugeot , Citroen etc , looks very similar ?
If so , that good thing , no one likes sharing stuff if they are no good
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Just out of warranty and it's costing a fair bit of money .
The new ones have a 2.5 ton rowing weight which is good
Is it the same chassis etc as Peugeot , Citroen etc , looks very similar ?
If so , that good thing , no one likes sharing stuff if they are no good
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:55:12 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:55:12 PM
Yeh vauxhall now own by PSA so it's the same as all those vans. I'm trying to get the 8 speed auto as I do lots of miles and it's better than the manual although it's 2500 more.
I need a bigger van for kids as gf audi a1 is too small for me and with this bugger van I can tow the drag car around can't I and spares and stuff needed at a weekend.
Probably get a seat in the back that converts into a bed aswell at some point
Think the 2.0 8 speed austi engine has 180PS and a lot of torque, more than any of its rivals.
Iv been reading loads of reviews.
I'd get a transit custom but they're a lot more costly for not anymore van
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I need a bigger van for kids as gf audi a1 is too small for me and with this bugger van I can tow the drag car around can't I and spares and stuff needed at a weekend.
Probably get a seat in the back that converts into a bed aswell at some point
Think the 2.0 8 speed austi engine has 180PS and a lot of torque, more than any of its rivals.
Iv been reading loads of reviews.
I'd get a transit custom but they're a lot more costly for not anymore van
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 06:12:14 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 06:12:14 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 05:55:12 PMI shit yeah , I forgot Vauxhall was bought out by the french - doh
Yeh vauxhall now own by PSA so it's the same as all those vans. I'm trying to get the 8 speed auto as I do lots of miles and it's better than the manual although it's 2500 more.
I need a bigger van for kids as gf audi a1 is too small for me and with this bugger van I can tow the drag car around can't I and spares and stuff needed at a weekend.
Probably get a seat in the back that converts into a bed aswell at some point
Think the 2.0 8 speed austi engine has 180PS and a lot of torque, more than any of its rivals.
Iv been reading loads of reviews.
I'd get a transit custom but they're a lot more costly for not anymore van
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I looked at the 180 Hp model( vivaro) and it was expensive , pretty much( £2000.00 ) same price as the 170 custom
My partner has a 2016 custom , he's put 115k miles on it
Spent first money on it a month ago , needed a new fuel pump
Except for that it's just been servicing
Oh , and tyres , it's got 18 inch wheels and they eat tyres
12000 miles on a full set
He also has a rock and roll bed , does lots of surfing and tri athlons , it's handy .
But personal preference , premier inn is only £30-40 per night
So with the extra cost for the bed over seats just don't weigh up for me
And it's nice to have a shower in the morning
Good luck
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:37:01 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:37:01 PM
Transit custom 26k plus vat new
Vivaro elite 19k/22k (auto) plus vat
Big difference especially over 60 months of finance
I will probably do 30-50,000 miles a year in van
What do you work as? I'm a sparky, work all over the country
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Vivaro elite 19k/22k (auto) plus vat
Big difference especially over 60 months of finance
I will probably do 30-50,000 miles a year in van
What do you work as? I'm a sparky, work all over the country
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:39:05 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:39:05 PM
Putting a seat bed in mine will only be for drag racing, when I stay away at for work I stay in hotels
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:37:01 PMI thought the vivaro was more than that ,
Transit custom 26k plus vat new
Vivaro elite 19k/22k (auto) plus vat
Big difference especially over 60 months of finance
I will probably do 30-50,000 miles a year in van
What do you work as? I'm a sparky, work all over the country
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That's a no Brainer then
Carpenter , don't do mileage like that
20k per year tops
Yours is huge mileage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 09:26:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 10, 2021, 08:59:29 PMI did 7000 miles in 5 weeks before xmasQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 10, 2021, 07:37:01 PMI thought the vivaro was more than that ,
Transit custom 26k plus vat new
Vivaro elite 19k/22k (auto) plus vat
Big difference especially over 60 months of finance
I will probably do 30-50,000 miles a year in van
What do you work as? I'm a sparky, work all over the country
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That's a no Brainer then
Carpenter , don't do mileage like that
20k per year tops
Yours is huge mileage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 02:56:48 PM
Saw some pictures of the inside of my engine yesterday....
One valve dropped into the cylinder and smashed into the head.
Another valve bent.
3 spring retainers completely missing
Piston with the dropped valve has 2 bug chunks out of it
Hopefully garage has got me an engine for 1k that will coke with a 6month warrenty
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One valve dropped into the cylinder and smashed into the head.
Another valve bent.
3 spring retainers completely missing
Piston with the dropped valve has 2 bug chunks out of it
Hopefully garage has got me an engine for 1k that will coke with a 6month warrenty
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 14, 2021, 03:05:06 PM
Post by: boosted on January 14, 2021, 03:05:06 PM
Transit custom? Lad at work his blew up last week..118k on it. He not happy atall..fsh. engines smashed to bits.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 03:16:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 14, 2021, 03:05:06 PMMines a transit connect. 65 plate.
Transit custom? Lad at work his blew up last week..118k on it. He not happy atall..fsh. engines smashed to bits.
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Cam belt snapped. Honestly never crossed my mind to get it done. Recommended to change at 120,000 miles.... The van had 127,000 miles
Lad at garage has said there plenty of them that have dropped the belts even at 80,000 miles.
I should have known better but its just something that I didn't think of, I just always thought of getting oil and filters etc
Engine I'm hopefully getting has got 50,000 miles on it and they're going to do the cam belt on it too for their peace of mind and mine
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 14, 2021, 04:43:03 PM
Post by: boosted on January 14, 2021, 04:43:03 PM
Well you cant blame it then...i was wanting a ford van for track day towing but then the mondeo diesel estate popped up cheap with cambelt and clutch already done so ended up with that instead.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 05:24:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 14, 2021, 05:24:53 PM
Nope. Just annoyed it happened right now as was wanting to move to a bigger van anyway but just costing me now unfortunately
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 14, 2021, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: boosted on January 14, 2021, 03:05:06 PMWhat happened to it ? Maestro get ours up for sale
Transit custom? Lad at work his blew up last week..118k on it. He not happy atall..fsh. engines smashed to bits.
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As a day van they are bringing strong money
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
Sooooo.... If only I had a welder, knew how to weld, had a milling machine, an angled drill press and my injectors which are still in australia I'd be able to modify this inlet manifold for my fuel rails.
So I had an apiphony the other day when I came across turblown dyno video where this land speed rx8 they are building/tuning is running on methanol with 8 x 2200 cc injectors and is making 650rwhp.... Albeit on a renesis block, and they were running out of fuel as they didn't have enough injector
I was thinking 4 x 2200 injectors would suffice however I was wrong even though I know you need at least 30% more methanol to make the same hp as you would with regular petrol.
So I'm going to run 10 x 2200 cc injectors, 8 in the UIM and 2 in the factory location on the LIM
Hopefully this will be more than enough to achieve 600hp on this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210122/9b57e601a9b5380b4733aff9b92f25f0.jpg)
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I'd be able to modify this inlet manifold for my fuel rails.So I had an apiphony the other day when I came across turblown dyno video where this land speed rx8 they are building/tuning is running on methanol with 8 x 2200 cc injectors and is making 650rwhp.... Albeit on a renesis block, and they were running out of fuel as they didn't have enough injector
I was thinking 4 x 2200 injectors would suffice however I was wrong even though I know you need at least 30% more methanol to make the same hp as you would with regular petrol.
So I'm going to run 10 x 2200 cc injectors, 8 in the UIM and 2 in the factory location on the LIM
Hopefully this will be more than enough to achieve 600hp on this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210122/9b57e601a9b5380b4733aff9b92f25f0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
I thought you could weld anyway
Ya a bit far away I could have gobbed summat together for ya
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 03:29:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 03:29:48 PM
Not aluminium and definately not welding to cast aluminium
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 04:41:11 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2021, 04:41:11 PM
I've done a few roto moulding tools at work, they're cast Ali
It's horrible, just melts to nothing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2021, 11:32:07 AM
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2021, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 02:21:07 PMSaw that vid too. It was just grazy. Lots of burning stuff going into housings
Sooooo.... If only I had a welder, knew how to weld, had a milling machine, an angled drill press and my injectors which are still in australia
So I had an apiphony the other day when I came across turblown dyno video where this land speed rx8 they are building/tuning is running on methanol with 8 x 2200 cc injectors and is making 650rwhp.... Albeit on a renesis block, and they were running out of fuel as they didn't have enough injector
I was thinking 4 x 2200 injectors would suffice however I was wrong even though I know you need at least 30% more methanol to make the same hp as you would with regular petrol.
So I'm going to run 10 x 2200 cc injectors, 8 in the UIM and 2 in the factory location on the LIM
Hopefully this will be more than enough to achieve 600hp on this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210122/9b57e601a9b5380b4733aff9b92f25f0.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 28, 2021, 05:58:52 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 28, 2021, 05:58:52 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 02:21:07 PMForgive my ignorance on this topic, I'm a bit more of an analogue fella on carbs etc
Sooooo.... If only I had a welder, knew how to weld, had a milling machine, an angled drill press and my injectors which are still in australia
So I had an apiphony the other day when I came across turblown dyno video where this land speed rx8 they are building/tuning is running on methanol with 8 x 2200 cc injectors and is making 650rwhp.... Albeit on a renesis block, and they were running out of fuel as they didn't have enough injector
I was thinking 4 x 2200 injectors would suffice however I was wrong even though I know you need at least 30% more methanol to make the same hp as you would with regular petrol.
So I'm going to run 10 x 2200 cc injectors, 8 in the UIM and 2 in the factory location on the LIM
Hopefully this will be more than enough to achieve 600hp on this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210122/9b57e601a9b5380b4733aff9b92f25f0.jpg)
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I'm assuming 2200cc injectors are the largest you can get?
Can you get bigger ones or does it not work that way.
As for the welding, I was wondering if there was any benefit to making your fuel rail/injector set up as a little sub assembly, off the uim first, get all your angles correct and then weld the addy to the uim after.
I wish I knew more about this modern efi malarkey lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 28, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 28, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on January 28, 2021, 05:58:52 AMNo there are bigger injectors, these 2200cc work out roughly 210 pph (pounds per hour)Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 22, 2021, 02:21:07 PMForgive my ignorance on this topic, I'm a bit more of an analogue fella on carbs etc
Sooooo.... If only I had a welder, knew how to weld, had a milling machine, an angled drill press and my injectors which are still in australia
So I had an apiphony the other day when I came across turblown dyno video where this land speed rx8 they are building/tuning is running on methanol with 8 x 2200 cc injectors and is making 650rwhp.... Albeit on a renesis block, and they were running out of fuel as they didn't have enough injector
I was thinking 4 x 2200 injectors would suffice however I was wrong even though I know you need at least 30% more methanol to make the same hp as you would with regular petrol.
So I'm going to run 10 x 2200 cc injectors, 8 in the UIM and 2 in the factory location on the LIM
Hopefully this will be more than enough to achieve 600hp on this engine(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210122/9b57e601a9b5380b4733aff9b92f25f0.jpg)
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I'm assuming 2200cc injectors are the largest you can get?
Can you get bigger ones or does it not work that way.
As for the welding, I was wondering if there was any benefit to making your fuel rail/injector set up as a little sub assembly, off the uim first, get all your angles correct and then weld the addy to the uim after.
I wish I knew more about this modern efi malarkey lol
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Billet atomizer injectors do an injector that does 1000pph which are 450 us dollars each.
The ones I'm using are 90 aus dollars each
I know your going to think well they're 4 times the price but flow 4 times the amount which is right, but I'd rather replace a £90 injector if it went caput rather than a 450 one
The fuel rails will all detach from the UIM anyway as you need to be able to take it off. There will be a tab welded on which will will bolt the rail down as it will have up to 100 psi fuel pressure at full boost
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 28, 2021, 01:11:05 PM
Post by: Jamie R on January 28, 2021, 01:11:05 PM
Christ yeah i agree with your sentiment there.
All i can say is fingers crossed :13:
All i can say is fingers crossed :13:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2021, 02:26:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 02, 2021, 02:26:21 PM
Just dropped my fuel rails off to be shortened and have - 10 bungs welded on each end
Also dropped my turbo manifold off to get the Wastegate dump tubes and flange done
My Christmas presents from JBR are now on there way
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Also dropped my turbo manifold off to get the Wastegate dump tubes and flange done
My Christmas presents from JBR are now on there way
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 11:04:24 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 11:04:24 AM
Excited much (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/3e912b77cfe8120da33d807e741d1bb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/3f1f97bd654204af4ca625a9a6e00f0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/8d42ea5f502fca444f04ccf589409fad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/867a04e9d4cdef82163a653f42600276.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/e75acf185d9d67bb4b6ab6ef2fbc130d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 05, 2021, 11:49:25 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 05, 2021, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 11:04:24 AMSo then
Excited much (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/3e912b77cfe8120da33d807e741d1bb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/3f1f97bd654204af4ca625a9a6e00f0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/8d42ea5f502fca444f04ccf589409fad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/867a04e9d4cdef82163a653f42600276.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/e75acf185d9d67bb4b6ab6ef2fbc130d.jpg)
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This porting witch craft
Is that the amount you take out and chamfer - round back to the original or do you ha e markers for how far to go at the back ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 03:08:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 03:08:56 PM
Yeh you scribe around that shape and port it out but you have to be careful as there are water jackets you can go into, not exactly sure how much to take out bu I prety sure you do it an angle and blend it into the existing port bowl
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 03:08:56 PMI shall be watching this keenly for when I do mine
Yeh you scribe around that shape and port it out but you have to be careful as there are water jackets you can go into, not exactly sure how much to take out bu I prety sure you do it an angle and blend it into the existing port bowl
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 04:55:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 04:55:35 PM
Slowly figuring out how I'm getting these bosses on. Think we need a milling machine to mill it flat
Still got the second set of bosses to cut
Here is also the turbo exhaust port template (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/73eaf9d2430bf75739058a6e75de19bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/2202fe3f12a7ae43de7edf00fb5f36a8.jpg)
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Still got the second set of bosses to cut
Here is also the turbo exhaust port template (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/73eaf9d2430bf75739058a6e75de19bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210205/2202fe3f12a7ae43de7edf00fb5f36a8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 04:56:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 04:56:41 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 04:42:43 PMRx8 plates are way different to these. You have got a job on getting the exhaust porting rightQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 03:08:56 PMI shall be watching this keenly for when I do mine
Yeh you scribe around that shape and port it out but you have to be careful as there are water jackets you can go into, not exactly sure how much to take out bu I prety sure you do it an angle and blend it into the existing port bowl
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:00:42 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 05, 2021, 05:00:42 PM
Yeah your exhaust port looks much simpler.
I won't be going too aggressive with mine
But slow n steady wins the race
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I won't be going too aggressive with mine
But slow n steady wins the race
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 05, 2021, 06:00:04 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 05, 2021, 06:00:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 05, 2021, 03:08:56 PMI got you
Yeh you scribe around that shape and port it out but you have to be careful as there are water jackets you can go into, not exactly sure how much to take out bu I prety sure you do it an angle and blend it into the existing port bowl
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 07:24:24 AM
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 07:24:24 AM
Grant, what exhaust port template is that? EP4?
Yes, 13B is much much simpler to port than Renny. Renny has basically no room to do anything, in any ports.
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Yes, 13B is much much simpler to port than Renny. Renny has basically no room to do anything, in any ports.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 08:46:19 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 08:46:19 AM
Quote from: re japi on February 06, 2021, 07:24:24 AMXtreme rotaries v3 turbo street/Bridge port and turbo exhaust port
Grant, what exhaust port template is that? EP4?
Yes, 13B is much much simpler to port than Renny. Renny has basically no room to do anything, in any ports.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 09:22:18 AM
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 09:22:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 08:46:19 AMPort shape and size looks good to me. But that "eyebrow"Quote from: re japi on February 06, 2021, 07:24:24 AMXtreme rotaries v3 turbo street/Bridge port and turbo exhaust port
Grant, what exhaust port template is that? EP4?
Yes, 13B is much much simpler to port than Renny. Renny has basically no room to do anything, in any ports.
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Are you going for full eyebrow or just half? Widht seems ok, but I would go for full lengt... And that exhaust port. For this pic, template seems a bit little...
Many of us has gone with "really big" exhaust. And quite good results with "quite small" turbo. Spools up quite early, and makes good power.
Like mine, I went for big. Offcourse, I dont have anything to prove it yet. But similars have done good results
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 09:32:53 AM
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2021, 09:32:53 AM
I mean, you are going for big power. For me, that port would restrict and migh cause exhaust pressure to climb
Heres mine for exhample. Pineapple EP4 but modified. About 4mm wider, and more oval shape.
Even tho many of us went for full D shape, and got good results, I wanted to try this one. Dont want to cause to much stress to OEM seals. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/fb774f24c2881e10be7ed7f305b9614d.jpg)
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Heres mine for exhample. Pineapple EP4 but modified. About 4mm wider, and more oval shape.
Even tho many of us went for full D shape, and got good results, I wanted to try this one. Dont want to cause to much stress to OEM seals. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/fb774f24c2881e10be7ed7f305b9614d.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:36:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:36:48 PM
Extreme rotaries have been known to achieve close to 400hp with NA 13B, I'm not using the bridge port, going with the street port and semi pp, which will probably bigger than the usual sort of size
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Plenty big enough.. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/960c5856c2e477bfcc255e198175b14c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 03:06:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 03:06:58 PM
Heres the Turbo bridge ports templates next to the turbo street port, as you can see the bridge is huge, however I'm using the street port. The(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/ec3e4ff9291152277f95468a7ac877c8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 10:24:31 PM
This manifold is going to look the business when iv got it all together(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/722044909c482b03ea22288f292febfc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/f8e653614b97df08b871b5dd1591a5ae.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
I think Mr Jamie could do that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:52:27 AM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:36:48 PMOh, I see. Thought that you are going for BridgePort ..
Extreme rotaries have been known to achieve close to 400hp with NA 13B, I'm not using the bridge port, going with the street port and semi pp, which will probably bigger than the usual sort of size
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:53:18 AM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:53:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 02:52:50 PMOk, that is big.
Plenty big enough.. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/960c5856c2e477bfcc255e198175b14c.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 03:06:58 PMYep, that bridge is massive
Heres the Turbo bridge ports templates next to the turbo street port, as you can see the bridge is huge, however I'm using the street port. The(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/ec3e4ff9291152277f95468a7ac877c8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 09:28:07 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 07, 2021, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
I think Mr Jamie could do that
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Whoever does it, I would recommend what you suggested Grant and machine the manifold flat so there is a closer tolerance between the tubes and the manifold.
This will also remove some oxidation from the surface and make it nicer to weld.
Next I would make a jig to locate the tubes all at the right angle, distances, and distance down each intake.
Can be crude as you like.....bit of ply wood with some dowels of the correct diameter that will just push in/out whilst its being tacked.
couple of pics to explain my jabber.
Im sure youve already thunk this.....
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2021, 11:06:05 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2021, 11:06:05 AM
Yeh that's what we were thinking to do, should get them fairly close to level enough
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:14:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:54:00 AMHow about this then jarno.. This is a 6 second package engine proven to make 1500hp using semi pp with a turbo bridgeportQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 03:06:58 PMYep, that bridge is massive
Heres the Turbo bridge ports templates next to the turbo street port, as you can see the bridge is huge, however I'm using the street port. The(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/ec3e4ff9291152277f95468a7ac877c8.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2021, 03:24:25 PM
Post by: re japi on February 09, 2021, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:14:20 PMYes, thats true. Within few years, there has been some good results with street ports, even tho massive ones.Quote from: re japi on February 07, 2021, 08:54:00 AMHow about this then jarno.. This is a 6 second package engine proven to make 1500hp using semi pp with a turbo bridgeportQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 03:06:58 PMYep, that bridge is massive
Heres the Turbo bridge ports templates next to the turbo street port, as you can see the bridge is huge, however I'm using the street port. The(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/ec3e4ff9291152277f95468a7ac877c8.jpg)
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When I ported my engine, I really though things thru, back and forward. I really wanted to do extented streetport. However, at that point, I had good set of templates in loan. So I went with those.
Type of apexes was also reason for me to go with BP.
Measuring big street port is difficult. Can be done tho. Just figuring out and measuring
Now, if I would build another engine, I would do street port. Also I would port runners to port much bigger.
Its ridicilous how much smaller stock T2 ports are compared to FDs. Even tho they should be almost similar engines. All those being said, now I would build FD engine, not using FCs. But, all this is learning
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Dammit my picture didn't upload
This is the turbo bridge port(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210209/3b767fdcc47ae81435ce5a152f790391.jpg)
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Title: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 09, 2021, 06:08:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 09, 2021, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:58:31 PMI wondered what you were getting at lol
Dammit my picture didn't upload
This is the turbo bridge port(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210209/3b767fdcc47ae81435ce5a152f790391.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 09:29:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 09, 2021, 06:08:48 PMYeh, I always have problems with the photos attaching in tappatalk for some reasonQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:58:31 PMI wondered what you were getting at lol
Dammit my picture didn't upload
This is the turbo bridge port(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210209/3b767fdcc47ae81435ce5a152f790391.jpg)
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Now looking at that bridge port, to me it's the same size as the semi pp, so that's roughly the same inlet timing, albeit the side of the rotor opens and closes most of the side port and the semi pp is opened and closed via the apex seal so...
Now I would say that because of the semi pp maybe there's no benefit to having a huge bridge when you have the semi pp
Quite interesting to see this, as also looking at the exhaust port I have, they close the exhasut late, which also might be why the turbo bridge opens so late.
Possibly reducing the overlap specifically if that overlap had no benefit to hp gains etc?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2021, 04:33:51 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 10, 2021, 04:33:51 AM
It's not just mine then.....
Trying to upload pics 2 or 3 times. Modern tech is great when it works eh ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2021, 05:01:54 AM
Post by: re japi on February 10, 2021, 05:01:54 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 09:29:31 PMYeah, I agree with you. From that pic, its hard to find benefits of that BP. Maybe some few horses at top end.Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 09, 2021, 06:08:48 PMYeh, I always have problems with the photos attaching in tappatalk for some reasonQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 09, 2021, 03:58:31 PMI wondered what you were getting at lol
Dammit my picture didn't upload
This is the turbo bridge port(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210209/3b767fdcc47ae81435ce5a152f790391.jpg)
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Now looking at that bridge port, to me it's the same size as the semi pp, so that's roughly the same inlet timing, albeit the side of the rotor opens and closes most of the side port and the semi pp is opened and closed via the apex seal so...
Now I would say that because of the semi pp maybe there's no benefit to having a huge bridge when you have the semi pp
Quite interesting to see this, as also looking at the exhaust port I have, they close the exhasut late, which also might be why the turbo bridge opens so late.
Possibly reducing the overlap specifically if that overlap had no benefit to hp gains etc?
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But cause those BP are quite big, and with that PP, I would imagine that its hard on apexes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
Just found a little engineering company, right across from where my mates welding is and he's taken my manifold to mill a little bit off
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 04:31:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 04:31:47 PM
Didn't take much off as don't know how thick the casting is but it's enough and most importantly it's flat.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 04:37:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 04:37:14 PM
Here's what's inside my box of goodies.
Pro dash logger with gps
Wiring
Pressure sensors
Temp sensors
Egts
Ignition
Injectors
Ecu(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/6f7bebdbe09a890cca4509a2c0caeded.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/ef670d1197f8f220b9dd3d0edb259c2c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/a81bd78fbf075afb9f1ef68acda63080.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/783f7bad11ebc5ff293aafc2ab6f493d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/071d73de25fffdc413ed2029215fd944.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/3cd2637f796e2262af16a8c463bf22cb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/31daaf0a50111162fc828197ff3a3ca6.jpg)
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Pro dash logger with gps
Wiring
Pressure sensors
Temp sensors
Egts
Ignition
Injectors
Ecu(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/6f7bebdbe09a890cca4509a2c0caeded.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/ef670d1197f8f220b9dd3d0edb259c2c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/a81bd78fbf075afb9f1ef68acda63080.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/783f7bad11ebc5ff293aafc2ab6f493d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/071d73de25fffdc413ed2029215fd944.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/3cd2637f796e2262af16a8c463bf22cb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/31daaf0a50111162fc828197ff3a3ca6.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 04:59:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 04:59:30 PM
Making good progress there grant :sign0098:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PM
Cheers. My welder mate has been busy all this last week so hasn't had any chance to do my manifold yet unfortunately.
Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 05:45:43 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PMGotta take the rough with the smooth I guess, I've pressed some metalistic bushes once I think that where from a mk3 cortina into some tubes for my mk1 escort World Cup engine mounts. I remember cussing and stuff at the time.
Cheers. My welder mate has been busy all this last week so hasn't had any chance to do my manifold yet unfortunately.
Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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You got access to a hydraulic press to make life easier ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 05:45:43 PMYeh friends of my dad's has got a big press so will nip up there as I can't be bothered with struggling with them at allQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PMGotta take the rough with the smooth I guess, I've pressed some metalistic bushes once I think that where from a mk3 cortina into some tubes for my mk1 escort World Cup engine mounts. I remember cussing and stuff at the time.
Cheers. My welder mate has been busy all this last week so hasn't had any chance to do my manifold yet unfortunately.
Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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You got access to a hydraulic press to make life easier ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 07:14:31 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 12, 2021, 07:14:31 PM
Plan Stan
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 12, 2021, 07:21:48 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 12, 2021, 07:21:48 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PMWhich are the donut bushings ?
Cheers. My welder mate has been busy all this last week so hasn't had any chance to do my manifold yet unfortunately.
Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 07:44:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 12, 2021, 07:21:48 PMThese ones(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210212/82066e0933ff9a535ad60644eed1d5f4.jpg)Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 12, 2021, 05:08:09 PMWhich are the donut bushings ?
Cheers. My welder mate has been busy all this last week so hasn't had any chance to do my manifold yet unfortunately.
Need to take the chuffing engine out soon and swap the subframe. Easy job but might do the suspension bushings at the front at the same time, and I'm not looking forward to pushing in this stupid donut bushings the mx5s have.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 03:44:28 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 13, 2021, 03:44:28 AM
Ah loads of lube, force it into that tight hole till it goes pop.
Slide in the steel shaft, done.
What? Cmon now this a family show
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Slide in the steel shaft, done.
What? Cmon now this a family show
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
Yeah man
Squeezed mine in with a vice
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 01:23:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 01:23:00 PM
Don't think my poxy little vice will suffice.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 05:29:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 05:29:17 PM
Hmm, might be able to take posetion of this car. Need to have a good look at it or at the very least get some recent photos(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210214/ef76a53762dd4fba1e8c73365b26b97f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 14, 2021, 07:02:15 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 14, 2021, 07:02:15 PM
Gp for it
If the chassis is what you need strength wise
Get in there
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If the chassis is what you need strength wise
Get in there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 07:07:01 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 07:07:01 PM
Defo bring you along abit. Looks like the cage is substancial..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
Whats it got in the rear looks like a ford atlas setup from grainy pics.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 10:05:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 10:05:52 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 14, 2021, 07:08:10 PMGoogle re worx rx8 drag car and look at the pics a bit clearer on the website.
Whats it got in the rear looks like a ford atlas setup from grainy pics.
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Its got a proper rear end in, very much doubt I could break it.
The rear end is worth the value of what he's asking for the car.
If I got it I would have to either get a proper gear box which cost bug bucks for what I would want
(Or USE AN AUTOMATIC AS THEY'RE A LOT CHEAPER BUT PRETEND I DIDN'T MENTION IT)
Or put a much smaller rear wheel/tyre on it to reduce the grip and help the box
I don't know, never thought I'd have the chance to buy something like that for what could be a bargain
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 10:12:12 PM
Post by: boosted on February 14, 2021, 10:12:12 PM
Will do mate ill have a google.
Drag racing...its something youve got todo its your passion and what you wanted todo ever since i came on this forum. Its 1 life live it. Talk to your family and make a decision we all on here want you to have it and cant wait for you tobe ripping up the drag strip. But its not as easy as that as we all know.
I hope you can get it but understand if you cant.
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Drag racing...its something youve got todo its your passion and what you wanted todo ever since i came on this forum. Its 1 life live it. Talk to your family and make a decision we all on here want you to have it and cant wait for you tobe ripping up the drag strip. But its not as easy as that as we all know.
I hope you can get it but understand if you cant.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 10:20:43 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 10:20:43 PM
Yeh I understand, the cage in that car is good to run 7.5 second passes so in the long run it would save me thousands.
I could beat on that car all day and worst thing I'd have to worry about is running out of money for methanol.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 14, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 14, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 10:20:43 PMDon't even entertain any negativity
Yeh I understand, the cage in that car is good to run 7.5 second passes so in the long run it would save me thousands.
I could beat on that car all day and worst thing I'd have to worry about is running out of money for methanol.
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Buy it then worry about it after ............ only here once buddy
Live every mile ...........
And all that
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 11:07:11 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 14, 2021, 11:07:11 PM
Going to have a look at it first and he might send me some photos too. Would have to shift the mx5 first. Wouldn't even be arsed about making my money back either, the suspension with bushing would get me that money back, stripped shell a gear box and diff must be worth 800 ish bushings are 500 and iv done all the hard work cleaning them up lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2021, 09:07:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2021, 09:07:09 PM
Keep changing my mind about 50ntikes in the last 2 hour drive to work
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Post by: boosted on February 15, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Go n look at it.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 15, 2021, 09:29:28 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 15, 2021, 09:29:28 PM
Agree with Jon
Would probably be the icing on the cake
Had a read up on it today
Just wrap it a different colour
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Would probably be the icing on the cake
Had a read up on it today
Just wrap it a different colour
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2021, 09:48:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 15, 2021, 09:48:16 PM
Yeh it's not a great colour scheme is it.
Been chatting to the lad, it needs front suspension and hubs, and wheels to fit those hubs.
Looking at 1800 for the struts and brakes and another 1200-1400 for the wheels, plus tyres...
Thats to make it a rolling chassis however 6k spent gets me to where I am now except I have to start again mounting everything.
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Been chatting to the lad, it needs front suspension and hubs, and wheels to fit those hubs.
Looking at 1800 for the struts and brakes and another 1200-1400 for the wheels, plus tyres...
Thats to make it a rolling chassis however 6k spent gets me to where I am now except I have to start again mounting everything.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 19, 2021, 07:49:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 19, 2021, 07:49:30 PM
Sneaked into the garage whilst gf wasn't in a bad mood. Could do with replacing the cam bolts on the suspension as they're not the best
Undone the 4 screws in the second picture as hoping that would split the hub apart but think it's going to need some "hulk smash" to seperate
Thrown some degrease on them and scrubbed with wire brush, going to hit them with the jet wash, remove bushings and install new bushings if I get enough time tomorrow (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210219/0d279be28a33d315fc8f64cc3bba5de7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210219/8afbe7f92dd0b4694448770ce28ebf13.jpg)
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Undone the 4 screws in the second picture as hoping that would split the hub apart but think it's going to need some "hulk smash" to seperate
Thrown some degrease on them and scrubbed with wire brush, going to hit them with the jet wash, remove bushings and install new bushings if I get enough time tomorrow (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210219/0d279be28a33d315fc8f64cc3bba5de7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210219/8afbe7f92dd0b4694448770ce28ebf13.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 19, 2021, 07:55:53 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on February 19, 2021, 07:55:53 PM
Is that an energy drink in the top picture or is it Friday? ;)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 19, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 19, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
Nope I quit energy drink months ago, they make me very angry. Its just a can of Pepsi max
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 12:22:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 12:22:37 PM
Found the easy way to remove bushings. But if m10 rid, some m10 nuts, a spanner and fire
There will be a steel sleeve left in once the rubber Bush has popped out, just cut that with a hack saw and use a hammer and chisel to drive it out
Finally clean the arms a bit and spray with paint before squashing the new bushes in and mount back on car.
Going to tackle the lower arms now, they won't be as easy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/4cbbf592697582427db072ca519d82d6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/d2d8e24e78f28b437368921104f519fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/85bb257d1a35592322f8073d71754c72.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/6cc810a3798aebf988189072b742105a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/08b53f50e0affe39bcae19f536c483d6.jpg)
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There will be a steel sleeve left in once the rubber Bush has popped out, just cut that with a hack saw and use a hammer and chisel to drive it out
Finally clean the arms a bit and spray with paint before squashing the new bushes in and mount back on car.
Going to tackle the lower arms now, they won't be as easy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/4cbbf592697582427db072ca519d82d6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/d2d8e24e78f28b437368921104f519fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/85bb257d1a35592322f8073d71754c72.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/6cc810a3798aebf988189072b742105a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/08b53f50e0affe39bcae19f536c483d6.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 12:22:37 PMI like the idea of how you removed them
Found the easy way to remove bushings. But if m10 rid, some m10 nuts, a spanner and fire
There will be a steel sleeve left in once the rubber Bush has popped out, just cut that with a hack saw and use a hammer and chisel to drive it out
Finally clean the arms a bit and spray with paint before squashing the new bushes in and mount back on car.
Going to tackle the lower arms now, they won't be as easy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/4cbbf592697582427db072ca519d82d6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/d2d8e24e78f28b437368921104f519fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/85bb257d1a35592322f8073d71754c72.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/6cc810a3798aebf988189072b742105a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/08b53f50e0affe39bcae19f536c483d6.jpg)
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Bottom arms ain't too bad so long as you got that nice plumbers torch full of gas
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 01:26:16 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 01:26:16 PM
One other thing, they do say not to change to shock bush over on RX8 forum
There is apparently no better than is in there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 02:35:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 02:35:19 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 01:26:16 PMThe one where the suspension arm mounts too? I haven't got a replacement for that anyway lol
One other thing, they do say not to change to shock bush over on RX8 forum
There is apparently no better than is in there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 03:07:54 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 02:35:19 PMYepQuote from: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 01:26:16 PMThe one where the suspension arm mounts too? I haven't got a replacement for that anyway lol
One other thing, they do say not to change to shock bush over on RX8 forum
There is apparently no better than is in there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:46:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:46:09 PM
These front suspension bushes are piece of piss, million times easier to remove than the rear suspension
Even got this donuts in with some force and lots of ducking out of the way
Use hole saw to cut most of the bsuh away, then use the vice an various pieces of metal to squeeze the old bushes out and apply heat to the outer piece and they just pop right out. Cutting the outer metal liner of the old Bush with a hack saw makes removal of the rest easy and just pops out again with the hammer and chisel(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/a156f24b79919ab3d9b8ff775407e55a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/f448298d11f40faf2ce963b2c595ab63.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/b9c9ac3cc3fc1b48a58ab79a2e751244.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/b755180e5a515488dd4bf3821cc51e31.jpg)
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Even got this donuts in with some force and lots of ducking out of the way
Use hole saw to cut most of the bsuh away, then use the vice an various pieces of metal to squeeze the old bushes out and apply heat to the outer piece and they just pop right out. Cutting the outer metal liner of the old Bush with a hack saw makes removal of the rest easy and just pops out again with the hammer and chisel(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/a156f24b79919ab3d9b8ff775407e55a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/f448298d11f40faf2ce963b2c595ab63.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/b9c9ac3cc3fc1b48a58ab79a2e751244.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/b755180e5a515488dd4bf3821cc51e31.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:49:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:49:24 PM
Put everything back together, but I remived the spring completely as Im sick if the car sitting so high and its now sat prety much at the height ab mx5 should be
IT just shows how much weight I have taken out of the car that the standard springs are to heavy? Stiff? What's the technical term for springs? Should help me get a ball park figure for what weight springs I will need at the front without having corner weights available to get it right lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/48f7be62338e52fe9fe1f8ae6c2b2b1e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/80f5e79f58b54a8d098ef1a7b0885338.jpg)
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IT just shows how much weight I have taken out of the car that the standard springs are to heavy? Stiff? What's the technical term for springs?
Should help me get a ball park figure for what weight springs I will need at the front without having corner weights available to get it right lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/48f7be62338e52fe9fe1f8ae6c2b2b1e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/80f5e79f58b54a8d098ef1a7b0885338.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:50:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:50:44 PM
Firs t pic is the driver side tyre to arch gap on the drivers side, Spring in place
Second one is with out spring on the passenger side (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/7fb271e62e7983056b8c796ee280b1cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/c8b66173d10904ddd5c8fa27e5906a56.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/40295f595a00bf570c97e909f8c321c6.jpg)
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Second one is with out spring on the passenger side (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/7fb271e62e7983056b8c796ee280b1cd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/c8b66173d10904ddd5c8fa27e5906a56.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210220/40295f595a00bf570c97e909f8c321c6.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
Good idea with a brute of a hole saw
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:55:48 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:55:48 PM
Hole saw is perfect size too, but could do with being 30mm long and I wouldn't have had to switch sides
Got in touch with a bloke that can do me a roll cage, 8.50 spec made from chrome moly 1500 iv to just contact when I'm ready for it and he will fit it in between the big chassis he builds with about a week turn around
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:59:50 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:55:48 PMThat's cheap for a cage
Hole saw is perfect size too, but could do with being 30mm long and I wouldn't have had to switch sides
Got in touch with a bloke that can do me a roll cage, 8.50 spec made from chrome moly 1500
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Is that painted too ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:03:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:03:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:59:50 PMNah don't think so but I can do that anyway, that includes fitting a window net if I provide one and opening door bar if it needs it to help get in/out the car depending on if I'd rather enter through the open roof of notQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:55:48 PMThat's cheap for a cage
Hole saw is perfect size too, but could do with being 30mm long and I wouldn't have had to switch sides
Got in touch with a bloke that can do me a roll cage, 8.50 spec made from chrome moly 1500
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Is that painted too ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 06:29:17 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:03:15 PMNot sure if I like the sound of an opening door bar .......Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 20, 2021, 05:59:50 PMNah don't think so but I can do that anyway, that includes fitting a window net if I provide one and opening door bar if it needs it to help get in/out the car depending on if I'd rather enter through the open roof of notQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 05:55:48 PMThat's cheap for a cage
Hole saw is perfect size too, but could do with being 30mm long and I wouldn't have had to switch sides
Got in touch with a bloke that can do me a roll cage, 8.50 spec made from chrome moly 1500
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Is that painted too ?
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how would you fair if you had to get out a bit quick ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 20, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
They're perfectly legal for an 8.50 spec but I'm not keen on it either, they have quick release mechanisms on them I think, will have a quick look
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 21, 2021, 09:58:54 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 21, 2021, 09:58:54 AM
Look how much it leans(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210221/5b097ef64eeb924e1d076d410e3e4f5e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 10:44:56 AM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 10:44:56 AM
Good on left hand bends
Not much use on the strip lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 21, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 21, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 10:44:56 AMJust have to pull wheelies then
Good on left hand bends
Not much use on the strip lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 03:52:37 PM
Post by: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 21, 2021, 11:48:53 AMThought that would a default thing for that 1000bho animalQuote from: Jamie R on February 21, 2021, 10:44:56 AMJust have to pull wheelies then
Good on left hand bends
Not much use on the strip lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
I have been messaging BC racing about there ZR series suspension, need to know if they're going to be short enough with how hight the car has ended up sitting but only way to know if they're going to work is to buy some and fit them
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:47:58 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:47:58 PM
Engine and all the hard work iv been doing removed from car(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/626c58eaf340a155ed4a54d7808e9f82.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:48:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:48:51 PM
Mx5 subframe back in, along with the steering. That's that headache out of the way and all of the suspension bushes are now done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/22b572a9058a9521c2a8610fd639ac6a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
Took the driver side spring out so the car sits flat and not leaning any more.
I don't know if it's just me but putting the susoension/shocks back in is an absolute ball ache(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/62cd7a67519dd043be23751e905581fd.jpg)
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I don't know if it's just me but putting the susoension/shocks back in is an absolute ball ache(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/62cd7a67519dd043be23751e905581fd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 04:51:44 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:50:31 PMNormally just release the upper arm from the chassis side and slide them past
Took the driver side spring out so the car sits flat and not leaning any more.
I don't know if it's just me but putting the susoension/shocks back in is an absolute ball ache(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/62cd7a67519dd043be23751e905581fd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 05:00:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 05:00:06 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 04:51:44 PMYeh I was doing that. Its getting the screw back in the bottom hole to bolt it back. Up that I struggle with. Maybe should put that in first and then push the top hat in.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:50:31 PMNormally just release the upper arm from the chassis side and slide them past
Took the driver side spring out so the car sits flat and not leaning any more.
I don't know if it's just me but putting the susoension/shocks back in is an absolute ball ache(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/62cd7a67519dd043be23751e905581fd.jpg)
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Will be much easier with coil overs I'm sure as they will be shorter in overall length
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 05:00:06 PMYeah that's a bitchQuote from: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 04:51:44 PMYeh I was doing that. Its getting the screw back in the bottom hole to bolt it back. Up that I struggle with. Maybe should put that in first and then push the top hat in.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 03:50:31 PMNormally just release the upper arm from the chassis side and slide them past
Took the driver side spring out so the car sits flat and not leaning any more.
I don't know if it's just me but putting the susoension/shocks back in is an absolute ball ache(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/62cd7a67519dd043be23751e905581fd.jpg)
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Will be much easier with coil overs I'm sure as they will be shorter in overall length
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It's a chamfered end so big hammer then impact hun to Run it in
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 06:55:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 06:55:15 PM
Anyone know of any place about how to change the mx5 power steering rack to non power steering?
Is it as simple as take lines off, seal up holes and job done?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on February 26, 2021, 10:00:22 PM
Post by: clive on February 26, 2021, 10:00:22 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 06:55:15 PM
Anyone know of any place about how to change the mx5 power steering rack to non power steering?
Is it as simple as take lines off, seal up holes and job done?
You need to strip it down and have a look at the quill shaft because like the RX-7 FD and the RX-8 it may well need welding to strengthen it.
Reason is, the quill shaft design is designed to be assisted by power, rather than being just forced through the steering wheel and the column
Many years ago I was told about a guy who just took the power off his FD rack and the quill shaft sheared and he crashed with no steering !
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 10:01:36 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 06:55:15 PMIf it's same electric as RX8
Anyone know of any place about how to change the mx5 power steering rack to non power steering?
Is it as simple as take lines off, seal up holes and job done?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 11:10:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 11:10:10 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 26, 2021, 10:01:36 PMNope it's hydraulic.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 26, 2021, 06:55:15 PMIf it's same electric as RX8
Anyone know of any place about how to change the mx5 power steering rack to non power steering?
Is it as simple as take lines off, seal up holes and job done?
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Thanks Clive. Shall have a look at this quil shaft thing with googling
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2021, 02:16:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 28, 2021, 02:16:40 PM
Got my front pulley on, so now it's got accurate timing marks
Accidentally pulled the key way out of the front and it wouldn't got back in but figured out I needed to get the front counter weight and timing gear lined up properly to get it to slide in
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Accidentally pulled the key way out of the front and it wouldn't got back in but figured out I needed to get the front counter weight and timing gear lined up properly to get it to slide in
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2021, 03:49:16 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2021, 03:49:16 PM
Treated myself to one of these and the accompanying stud kits.
Just need an oil pickup tube for an FC now as the one I I have isn't for an FC sump(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210301/7e164f7a78dd00a27531c15f4aab44e8.jpg)
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Just need an oil pickup tube for an FC now as the one I I have isn't for an FC sump
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on March 01, 2021, 05:04:29 PM
Post by: clive on March 01, 2021, 05:04:29 PM
Should be able to get the Pickup from your local dealer
N326-14-240A £25.07
N326-14-240A £25.07
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 01:31:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 01:31:40 PM
Sooooo pedal boxes.... I'm really not liking the brake master cylinder and clutch master in my way so I'm thinking of binning it off completely.
What's good? What's not good?
Iv got the engine and gear box back in and in perfect position now, engine has lifted up a bit but I can live with that, the fuel rails that I'm adding will interfere with the bonnet but nothing I can sort easily
As you can see in the picture the mx5 subframe engine mounts are a lot better suited to an FC engine mounts position. A lot closer and easier to make strong mounts with
Engine is central and level and also tilts back a couple degrees to help with an air locks should that happen when it's start up time.
Clutch master cylinder has always been in the way even when I put the engine in the first time so out it comes, compromising just isn't an option.
I need to mount a throttle pedal anyway as the mx5 is DBW so getting a pedal box benefits me in a fair few ways(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/1701fe19a90143bd456717f9fb028dee.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/1bedcb72ef2dc257f7a7f205d56a75af.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/ec7ec838cebc1529691959f69ebf1244.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/3c745a2843f8df3f6637a4409d28e839.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/5b86ef7d1497f11252731900918430f9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/17eeb1f8e8e0d648ea1619d3eb57fb8b.jpg)
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What's good? What's not good?
Iv got the engine and gear box back in and in perfect position now, engine has lifted up a bit but I can live with that, the fuel rails that I'm adding will interfere with the bonnet but nothing I can sort easily
As you can see in the picture the mx5 subframe engine mounts are a lot better suited to an FC engine mounts position. A lot closer and easier to make strong mounts with
Engine is central and level and also tilts back a couple degrees to help with an air locks should that happen when it's start up time.
Clutch master cylinder has always been in the way even when I put the engine in the first time so out it comes, compromising just isn't an option.
I need to mount a throttle pedal anyway as the mx5 is DBW so getting a pedal box benefits me in a fair few ways
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 05, 2021, 01:44:21 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 05, 2021, 01:44:21 PM
Yeah
That engine mount is in a much better position
Brakes ?
I thought they had parachutes
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That engine mount is in a much better position
Brakes ?
I thought they had parachutes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 02:38:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 02:38:28 PM
Yeh only need some small brakes, something to look at in the furute to take weight off the front but for now need to use these. Iv just pulled all the pedals out now.
Loads more room in that corner now and it also mean that the existing brake lines can go/cut back and altered accordingly.
A pedal box is going to make it easier to plumb in the clutch slipper.
I watch the boosted boiz YouTube channel, iv commented on a video over a year ago for them to put a clutch slipper on the mr2 they have that has been pulling massive wheelies, well they just fitted one, it stopped pulling wheelies and put the car 100th off the world record fastest mr2...
So yeh they work good
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Loads more room in that corner now and it also mean that the existing brake lines can go/cut back and altered accordingly.
A pedal box is going to make it easier to plumb in the clutch slipper.
I watch the boosted boiz YouTube channel, iv commented on a video over a year ago for them to put a clutch slipper on the mr2 they have that has been pulling massive wheelies, well they just fitted one, it stopped pulling wheelies and put the car 100th off the world record fastest mr2...
So yeh they work good
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 03:25:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 03:25:22 PM
Loads of room for activites
Passenger floor mounted pedals?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/54709e4d5be2b798fcc77c74ce234f60.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/21245d73e4f0f5500fc5e7369ad4eca6.jpg)
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Passenger floor mounted pedals?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 04:48:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 04:48:40 PM
Sump brace has arrived (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/e347ee534224468c19c20283a159855a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
Any suggestions on pedal boxes? Best place to get one?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Found this, they're not cheap for a complete assembley but boy they can get very expensive, found some for 2 grand (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210305/22f38a2528aeb5c37b55562fae1ca16a.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 06:12:54 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 06:12:54 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2021, 09:58:37 PMI bought an obp one, floor mounted, cockpit cylinders. I.e point back at the driver, not bulkhead ones. It's a nice bit kit. I thought they were decent price compared to stuff like tilton.
Found this, they're not cheap for a complete assembley but boy they can get very expensive, found some for 2 grand
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The obp website was a bit yampy last time I went on it looks like they only deal through suppliers not available to public.
Just jumping in the bath, I'll take a closer peek in a bit
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 06, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
https://www.obpltd.com/product-page/pro-race-v2-floor-mounted-cockpit-fit-2-pedal-system-brake-clutch
That one but as a kit
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That one but as a kit
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 06, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 06, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
Yeh iv been looking at there website to see if they're cheaper direct but it's a bit of a ball ache. Can't find the pedal box as a "kit" so to speak
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on March 07, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
Post by: clive on March 07, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
Here we go 1700 pedal boxes to choose from.
https://www.compbrake.com/product-category/pedal-boxes/
https://www.compbrake.com/product-category/pedal-boxes/
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 07, 2021, 02:58:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 07, 2021, 02:58:31 PM
Ooh thanks Clive, think you just saved me £200
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 07, 2021, 03:27:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 07, 2021, 03:27:39 PM
Have just been checking if the starter motor I have work but it appears not fully. The starter is spinning but the solenoid isn't pushing the starter out.
Swapped a solenoid over from an FC starter I have, which spins and pushes out the gear to the fd starter and it still won't push the gear out.
New one son ebay for 100 quid I think or shall I get mine reconditioned
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Swapped a solenoid over from an FC starter I have, which spins and pushes out the gear to the fd starter and it still won't push the gear out.
New one son ebay for 100 quid I think or shall I get mine reconditioned
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2021, 11:26:54 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2021, 11:26:54 AM
Pedal box ordered
Clutch slipper ordered
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Clutch slipper ordered
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 12:52:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 12:52:49 PM
Now to figure out which master cylinder goes where.
Got 3 master cylinders, 0.65, 0.7 and 0.7
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Got 3 master cylinders, 0.65, 0.7 and 0.7
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 01:07:24 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 01:07:24 PM
Always Smallest bore on the front
75 on rear
70 on clutch
I'll check mine when I get home on the clutch and rear brakes. I have the same sizes
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75 on rear
70 on clutch
I'll check mine when I get home on the clutch and rear brakes. I have the same sizes
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 01:19:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 01:19:39 PM
By putting the smallest bore on the front gives you a natural bias towards the front brakes.
Im 17stone, if I stood on your chest in my workboots, it would be uncomfortable but you could probably cope. If I wore stilletoes ( no ideas) the heel would puncture a hole in your chest
Same force going down (17 stone x 9.81 m/s i.e. gravity) over a much smaller surface area of the heel means for force per mm^2
Same principle for your brakes. When you press the brake and both cylinders have fluid in, the smaller bore which goes to the front will travel further for the movement in the pedal, so naturally biased towards the front.
You can fine tune this by adjusting the bias bar, but there will always be more braking on the front by default.
Hope this helps.
Im sure i had 0.65", 0.7" and 0.75"
Like i said lemme check when i get home, Ill drop you a message at 5pm ish tonight
Im 17stone, if I stood on your chest in my workboots, it would be uncomfortable but you could probably cope. If I wore stilletoes ( no ideas) the heel would puncture a hole in your chest
Same force going down (17 stone x 9.81 m/s i.e. gravity) over a much smaller surface area of the heel means for force per mm^2
Same principle for your brakes. When you press the brake and both cylinders have fluid in, the smaller bore which goes to the front will travel further for the movement in the pedal, so naturally biased towards the front.
You can fine tune this by adjusting the bias bar, but there will always be more braking on the front by default.
Hope this helps.
Im sure i had 0.65", 0.7" and 0.75"
Like i said lemme check when i get home, Ill drop you a message at 5pm ish tonight
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 01:58:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 01:58:46 PM
Ah OK, I understand. New the smaller one would be for the brakes but wasn't sure on if it would be for the fronts or rears.
I got some brake lines with the kit but don't think I need them as can mount the reservoirs straight onto the master cylinders by the looks of it.
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I got some brake lines with the kit but don't think I need them as can mount the reservoirs straight onto the master cylinders by the looks of it.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:01:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 01:58:46 PMYou're probably right but it may be a pig to fill them up so low down.
Ah OK, I understand. New the smaller one would be for the brakes but wasn't sure on if it would be for the fronts or rears.
I got some brake lines with the kit but don't think I need them as can mount the reservoirs straight onto the master cylinders by the looks of it.
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I dunno if the threads are the same I can't remember
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 02:18:53 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 11, 2021, 02:18:53 PM
Thays a good point, need to be highter than the brakes and clutch to help bleed them etc
Once I get it assembled and in the car I can look where to mount them as I have loads of room under there now, and there's the dash bar
I'm really happy with it, looka the part and the throttle linkage is great too and springs back nice and smooth
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Once I get it assembled and in the car I can look where to mount them as I have loads of room under there now, and there's the dash bar
I'm really happy with it, looka the part and the throttle linkage is great too and springs back nice and smooth
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:55:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 04:55:56 PM
Hi grant,
To confirm
0.625" on the front
0.7" on the rear
0.75" on the clutch.
You may have slightly different sizes, just make sure small on front. You'll be fine .
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To confirm
0.625" on the front
0.7" on the rear
0.75" on the clutch.
You may have slightly different sizes, just make sure small on front. You'll be fine .
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 05:02:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 11, 2021, 05:02:52 PM
On my set up both the remote reservoirs and the hole on the master cylinders for the low pressure side fluid feed are both 7/16" unf
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I bought 3 of these, yes it's 45 quid to feed 3 cylinders, but you can get brake fluid rubber hose to push onto the tails and buy some fittings for the other end, job done
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I bought 3 of these, yes it's 45 quid to feed 3 cylinders, but you can get brake fluid rubber hose to push onto the tails and buy some fittings for the other end, job done
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:27:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:27:47 PM
Pieced it all together(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/74316807579a9dbca23fa1c044c649f3.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:28:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:28:38 PM
Can't seem to get the balance bar in any further than that, it's a bit tight(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/765b94199438b33751be837d731f2512.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:30:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:30:49 PM
Think I have got my master the wrong way around as looking at the picture I'm thinking the front master should go on the right as that gets more braking effort/travel? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/5bde04603b6b91ce06a8bfd51def9f33.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:35:40 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:35:40 PM
This litlle beauty is what is going to stop things breaking so fast, fully adjustable clutch slipper.
There is a clutch company fairly local to me so going to get in touch with them and see if they can make me some clutch plates to fit my clutch out of sintered iron, that's the material drag guys all use so night aswell try it
Last time I got a clutch plate from them it cost 90 squid.... So a twin disc woon be much and its going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than 2 grand for a new clutch everyone uses(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/bbc631fd4db038ef0170f88164c27cdc.jpg)
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There is a clutch company fairly local to me so going to get in touch with them and see if they can make me some clutch plates to fit my clutch out of sintered iron, that's the material drag guys all use so night aswell try it
Last time I got a clutch plate from them it cost 90 squid.... So a twin disc woon be much and its going to be a hell of a lot cheaper than 2 grand for a new clutch everyone uses
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 12:39:18 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:30:49 PMHi grant,
Think I have got my master the wrong way around as looking at the picture I'm thinking the front master should go on the right as that gets more braking effort/travel? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/5bde04603b6b91ce06a8bfd51def9f33.jpg)
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It shouldn't make any difference which side the smaller master cylinder goes to
The problem you have is the spherical bearing isn't in the tube properly so the fulcrum point is acting about the right hand m cylinder.
The spherical bearing needs to slide up and down the entirety of the tube with ease.
That way you can fine tune it easily with your cable.
Some more work needed getting that bearing home properly
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
Iv just had a quick Google and it says the spherical bearing should be able to slide from side to side?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:45:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 12:39:18 PMAh OK, think there might be paint in there from the powder coating which I can sand down and make smooth. Probably try scotch bright first as it's not course. Will have a go Saturday as iv got to drive to London now, do a 3 hour job and drive back homeQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 12:30:49 PMHi grant,
Think I have got my master the wrong way around as looking at the picture I'm thinking the front master should go on the right as that gets more braking effort/travel? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/5bde04603b6b91ce06a8bfd51def9f33.jpg)
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It shouldn't make any difference which side the smaller master cylinder goes to
The problem you have is the spherical bearing isn't in the tube properly so the fulcrum point is acting about the right hand m cylinder.
The spherical bearing needs to slide up and down the entirety of the tube with ease.
That way you can fine tune it easily with your cable.
Some more work needed getting that bearing home properly
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 01:06:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 01:06:09 PM
Got the bugger out. Definitely paint binding(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/f466f4e5dd2efca99bffd199bf04bebf.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
Blimey that's some trek!
On a Friday too!!
Don't forget the "action" won't be correct either until you have fluid in.
You need the fact it's harder to push fluid through the larger bore for it to make the smaller bore to travel further. So you need some resistance.
Didn't want you getting disheartened or think summat still wasn't right once you sorted the bearing
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On a Friday too!!
Don't forget the "action" won't be correct either until you have fluid in.
You need the fact it's harder to push fluid through the larger bore for it to make the smaller bore to travel further. So you need some resistance.
Didn't want you getting disheartened or think summat still wasn't right once you sorted the bearing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 01:10:24 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 01:10:24 PM
Any need for this with having the bias bat? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/f9ee7589e7ac2e58f11f33422d27ab14.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 01:19:17 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 12, 2021, 01:19:17 PM
At this point I'd say no, your pedal box should prevent the rear brakes from locking up.
Even with winding the bar so all the bias is towards the front, if your rear brakes are so large they lock up, either cut the line and fit that, but my preference would be fit a larger m cylinder for the rear brakes. Maybe go from 0.7 to 0.75
I had a valve like that fitted to my Chevy truck as I had a simpler system on the yank tank.
The discs available to me at the time meant that I had to fit larger discs to the rear. So prevent locking up I used the valve. Never had an issue.
Keep hold of it, if the worst happens you have options
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Even with winding the bar so all the bias is towards the front, if your rear brakes are so large they lock up, either cut the line and fit that, but my preference would be fit a larger m cylinder for the rear brakes. Maybe go from 0.7 to 0.75
I had a valve like that fitted to my Chevy truck as I had a simpler system on the yank tank.
The discs available to me at the time meant that I had to fit larger discs to the rear. So prevent locking up I used the valve. Never had an issue.
Keep hold of it, if the worst happens you have options
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 02:00:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 12, 2021, 02:00:51 PM
Thanks Jamie. If I just. Wind it so the rears barely do anything as o intend on not doing much braking anyway then minimal chance of lock up at 130mph lol
Not lookokg forward to doing the brake lines,.
Iv got some copper line butight buy some of the other stuff that's softer to make doing the flaring easier
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Not lookokg forward to doing the brake lines,.
Iv got some copper line butight buy some of the other stuff that's softer to make doing the flaring easier
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Have just spent the best part of an hour cleaning out the powder coating and the balance bar slides in half way nice and easy but the rest not so much.
A bit more with the sand paper and should be good, little bit annoying having to do this but apart from that it's a good piece of equipment
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A bit more with the sand paper and should be good, little bit annoying having to do this but apart from that it's a good piece of equipment
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 12:54:52 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 12:50:29 PMI had to do the same for some reason, don't ask why, I have billet aluminium pedals so no paint.
Have just spent the best part of an hour cleaning out the powder coating and the balance bar slides in half way nice and easy but the rest not so much.
A bit more with the sand paper and should be good, little bit annoying having to do this but apart from that it's a good piece of equipment
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You may find it's a bit of penetration from welding if they're steel ???
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 13, 2021, 12:54:52 PMYeh thats what I was thinking, there's 2 welds on the pedal.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 13, 2021, 12:50:29 PMI had to do the same for some reason, don't ask why, I have billet aluminium pedals so no paint.
Have just spent the best part of an hour cleaning out the powder coating and the balance bar slides in half way nice and easy but the rest not so much.
A bit more with the sand paper and should be good, little bit annoying having to do this but apart from that it's a good piece of equipment
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You may find it's a bit of penetration from welding if they're steel ???
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My dad's got a bore scraper to help make the clearence
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
Measure the difference between the hole and the spherical bearing.
The hole was 0.5mm too small so iv been filing away for last hour opening it up.
Had to take the pedal out and that was a ball ache, not enough room to pull the screw out fully to remove the pedal so I have had to force it out
Might still need a little but of filing but iv run out of patience with it.
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The hole was 0.5mm too small so iv been filing away for last hour opening it up.
Had to take the pedal out and that was a ball ache, not enough room to pull the screw out fully to remove the pedal so I have had to force it out
Might still need a little but of filing but iv run out of patience with it.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 03:38:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 03:38:21 PM
Anyone looking want my brand new fuel rails?
https://www.billetrotary.com.au/product-page/fuel-rail-kit-fc-rx-7
Its these. Iv had them out to have a look and fit but I don't actually need themq
£200 plus postage
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https://www.billetrotary.com.au/product-page/fuel-rail-kit-fc-rx-7
Its these. Iv had them out to have a look and fit but I don't actually need themq
£200 plus postage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2021, 04:04:09 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2021, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 03:38:21 PMThat specific for the FC ?
Anyone looking want my brand new fuel rails?
https://www.billetrotary.com.au/product-page/fuel-rail-kit-fc-rx-7
Its these. Iv had them out to have a look and fit but I don't actually need themq
£200 plus postage
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 04:28:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 15, 2021, 04:28:37 PM
Yeh, they have slight differences in injectors hole distance I think
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:02:42 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:02:42 PM
Right help needed
So I'm guessing that the master cylinders I have are 7/16?
As on comp brake site they have a number of unions/fittings for 7/16
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So I'm guessing that the master cylinders I have are 7/16?
As on comp brake site they have a number of unions/fittings for 7/16
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:06:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:06:59 PM
And what I have here is a banjo fitting which is the same thread size as what mazda use...
This is for my clutch slipper.
This banjo fitting screws straight into my clutch slave cylinder.
So mazda use 3/16 or is it 3/8
I know the thread pitch is m10 x 1.0?
What I need is an adapter that fits the master cylinder (male) end with a female that I can screw my banjo fitting into
Or another option(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210317/f238c8073617acd52249d78597830053.jpg)
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This is for my clutch slipper.
This banjo fitting screws straight into my clutch slave cylinder.
So mazda use 3/16 or is it 3/8
I know the thread pitch is m10 x 1.0?
What I need is an adapter that fits the master cylinder (male) end with a female that I can screw my banjo fitting into
Or another option(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210317/f238c8073617acd52249d78597830053.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:07:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:07:37 PM
Also just practiced making a revers flare, not done them before but YouTube helps as always(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210317/a8755ee3eba38bd3c40b491195155763.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 01:09:26 PM
I think I need these fittings? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210317/d408881b36ba7cf307b776268cc83bd2.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 17, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
Grant,
I'm stuck on factory floor at mo but have a look at car builder solutions on the web, they have lots of adapters ....
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I'm stuck on factory floor at mo but have a look at car builder solutions on the web, they have lots of adapters ....
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 17, 2021, 02:08:40 PMIv ordered 3 of those fittings anyway. All the different sizes along with different thread pitches gets confusing.
Grant,
I'm stuck on factory floor at mo but have a look at car builder solutions on the web, they have lots of adapters ....
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I'm prety sure the master cylinders are 7/16 and iv found something on comp brake website about using those adapter you can use regular brake line and fittings etc.
Bit of a strange one that master cylinders come in a different size to what the common brake line size is but there must be a reason lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 17, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
I have just found someone that does fibreglass doors and hardtop for. Mk3s
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 02:43:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 02:43:44 PM
Reyt fibre glass parts galore
Doors 550 for the pair
Front bumper 325
Bonnet 150
Hard top 550 plus 150 for the glass. Which I honestly won't need the glass
Roof weighs 6kg
Doors weigh 6kg
I have just taken a standard door off and weighed it... 25.2kg with the glass(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/7afe9cd80cfb629b5a4ef89b9f6a1c36.jpg)
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Doors 550 for the pair
Front bumper 325
Bonnet 150
Hard top 550 plus 150 for the glass. Which I honestly won't need the glass
Roof weighs 6kg
Doors weigh 6kg
I have just taken a standard door off and weighed it... 25.2kg with the glass(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/7afe9cd80cfb629b5a4ef89b9f6a1c36.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2021, 03:05:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2021, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 02:43:44 PMThat's a big weigh loss
Reyt fibre glass parts galore
Doors 550 for the pair
Front bumper 325
Bonnet 150
Hard top 550 plus 150 for the glass. Which I honestly won't need the glass
Roof weighs 6kg
Doors weigh 6kg
I have just taken a standard door off and weighed it... 25.2kg with the glass(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/7afe9cd80cfb629b5a4ef89b9f6a1c36.jpg)
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O you think it will lift ?
Not that I know bugger all about drag
Racing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 03:41:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 03:41:49 PM
Lift? I bloody hope not. With no roof there's going to be so much turbulence I doubt it will lift.
IT might pull wheelies but slim chance with the clutch slipper.
Adding lightness is basically free horsepower lol
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IT might pull wheelies but slim chance with the clutch slipper.
Adding lightness is basically free horsepower lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 18, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 03:41:49 PMHa ha
Lift? I bloody hope not. With no roof there's going to be so much turbulence I doubt it will lift.
IT might pull wheelies but slim chance with the clutch slipper.
Adding lightness is basically free horsepower lol
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Yeah wheelies I mean not lift ......
front end lift i meant
I really want to see this go when it's done
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 07:35:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 07:35:13 PM
Once iv got it running I will have to learn about weight distribution and get it corner weighted as I'm going to have to put some weight in it somewhere.
I think drag cars should have the weight 55% front and 45% to the rear which keeps the wheels down but transference of weight when launching has something to do with it I think.
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I think drag cars should have the weight 55% front and 45% to the rear which keeps the wheels down but transference of weight when launching has something to do with it I think.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 18, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Fit a tow bar but fit the ball upside down.
Practical wheelie bars lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2021, 05:52:42 AM
Post by: re japi on March 19, 2021, 05:52:42 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 18, 2021, 07:35:13 PMI dont know nothing about drag cars weight distribution. But I reckon that most of them has like 60-70% on front. Rotary and fourbanger engined has 55% I reckon.
Once iv got it running I will have to learn about weight distribution and get it corner weighted as I'm going to have to put some weight in it somewhere.
I think drag cars should have the weight 55% front and 45% to the rear which keeps the wheels down but transference of weight when launching has something to do with it I think.
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Ride hight effects to weight transfer. Lets say that your cars nose is 2 cm higher than rear, so it might have shifted its weight distribution compared to stock. Also, when weight transfers at launch, it will be more than stock transfer.
IRS at drag racing is completely different story. One topic that I know nothing about. I think that IRS needs lots of weight transition to back, to work correctly. I mean getting power to track and getting traction
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 19, 2021, 02:44:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 19, 2021, 02:44:22 PM
No turning back now (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210319/b57deb0c460b03b2c445da7a22b48977.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210319/3f9c02f0b47015531bef9a48aa040f7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210319/743b414e1a9bb38899237f0aa8a15d19.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 19, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 19, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
Prety cool how mazda put this removable panel on here. Not sure why but it makes getting to the gear box easy peasy lemon squeezy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210319/50dd01ac0ff359732a28a504cae6a893.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 04:52:07 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 04:52:07 PM
Finally got the bungs tacked on and got my rails back with the AN10s on(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210327/b4488729c11d07da805a87691b3d10b1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210327/474a0ca438ba9387dcf6d7ed03cf4ff8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210327/bb6feb4ab1b046705f52abf352b47e17.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PM
That's looks good
Very clever
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 07:25:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 07:25:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PMI just need 4 more injectors.....
That's looks good
Very clever
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From what I understand about injector placement that the closer they are to the engine/combustion chamber the better they are for driveability and efficiency
But if they are further up the intake they are better for hp production as the fuel has more time to take heat out of the intake but driveability is rubbish which I honestly don't care about.
Makes me wonder that a track car would benefit from that kind of thing?
I he just gone and splooged out for new windows installing in my house so think I should treat myself to more injectors
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 07:55:30 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 07:55:30 PM
Making good progress
Hope you have better luck than my sump
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:57:25 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 07:25:15 PMThat's really interestingQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PMI just need 4 more injectors.....
That's looks good
Very clever
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From what I understand about injector placement that the closer they are to the engine/combustion chamber the better they are for driveability and efficiency
But if they are further up the intake they are better for hp production as the fuel has more time to take heat out of the intake but driveability is rubbish which I honestly don't care about.
Makes me wonder that a track car would benefit from that kind of thing?
I he just gone and splooged out for new windows installing in my house so think I should treat myself to more injectors
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Not the windows mind
It's interesting reading , it's alll slowly sinking in
Thanks Grant
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:10:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 07:55:30 PMOh no, I must have a look at your progress.
Making good progress
Hope you have better luck than my sump
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:57:25 PMAlways proof check anything I sayQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 07:25:15 PMThat's really interestingQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PMI just need 4 more injectors.....
That's looks good
Very clever
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From what I understand about injector placement that the closer they are to the engine/combustion chamber the better they are for driveability and efficiency
But if they are further up the intake they are better for hp production as the fuel has more time to take heat out of the intake but driveability is rubbish which I honestly don't care about.
Makes me wonder that a track car would benefit from that kind of thing?
I he just gone and splooged out for new windows installing in my house so think I should treat myself to more injectors
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Not the windows mind
It's interesting reading , it's alll slowly sinking in
Thanks Grant
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 08:33:26 PM
Post by: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 08:33:26 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:10:46 PMIt's not a biggie, just need to reposition the gate I'm 2mm outQuote from: Jamie R on March 27, 2021, 07:55:30 PMOh no, I must have a look at your progress.
Making good progress
Hope you have better luck than my sump
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It's a half day job, just annoying over 2 mm
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 08:12:23 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:57:25 PMAlways proof check anything I sayQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 07:25:15 PMThat's really interestingQuote from: Mr Spiller on March 27, 2021, 07:08:04 PMI just need 4 more injectors.....
That's looks good
Very clever
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From what I understand about injector placement that the closer they are to the engine/combustion chamber the better they are for driveability and efficiency
But if they are further up the intake they are better for hp production as the fuel has more time to take heat out of the intake but driveability is rubbish which I honestly don't care about.
Makes me wonder that a track car would benefit from that kind of thing?
I he just gone and splooged out for new windows installing in my house so think I should treat myself to more injectors
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Not the windows mind
It's interesting reading , it's alll slowly sinking in
Thanks Grant
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2021, 06:37:25 AM
Post by: re japi on March 28, 2021, 06:37:25 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 27, 2021, 04:52:07 PMIt looks sick, I like it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 10:40:22 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 10:40:22 AM
Here the jig to get the centres of the bosses the same as my fuel rails.
Also the 90% finished fanimold, just need some bracketry to hold the injectors down. That should be a lot easier than getting the bosses done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/027f09920dd1d08d38715da6edde0cfa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/51dbc2f5098075becd1541232606ed04.jpg)
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Also the 90% finished fanimold, just need some bracketry to hold the injectors down. That should be a lot easier than getting the bosses done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/027f09920dd1d08d38715da6edde0cfa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/51dbc2f5098075becd1541232606ed04.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2021, 10:45:42 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2021, 10:45:42 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 10:40:22 AMWhat type of welder is used for them grant ?
Here the jig to get the centres of the bosses the same as my fuel rails.
Also the 90% finished fanimold, just need some bracketry to hold the injectors down. That should be a lot easier than getting the bosses done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/027f09920dd1d08d38715da6edde0cfa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/51dbc2f5098075becd1541232606ed04.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 11:17:47 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 11:17:47 AM
A lad I know works for Orange Mountain bikes and they used a 3 phase tig welder, lots of amp and they used some 2.6mm rod
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Getting weldedhttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/6066f01fd8025/received_146494880719240.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/6066f01fd8025/received_146494880719240.mp4)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2021, 12:24:29 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 02, 2021, 12:24:29 PM
Nice job
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2021, 06:15:15 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 02, 2021, 06:15:15 PM
Yup not easy welding cast Ali.
Decent job there
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 02, 2021, 07:31:46 PM
Can't be bothered with borrowing tools to tighten up my massive nuts so I bought my own massive tool(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/1949c22f1d1c912a6efdc325c94c14bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/0dd76005774fd7ac4046f121546147f6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210402/f0cbdb946ca37804494bd59fc39bc4b7.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM
Post by: boosted on April 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM
Lol makes your hand look tiny.. 3/4" or 1"?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2021, 11:18:14 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2021, 11:18:14 AM
Quote from: boosted on April 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM3/4 as the 50mm socket we have is 3/4. 150 quid I think. Should do the job rather than counting how many ugga dugga on the impact gun lol
Lol makes your hand look tiny..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 03, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 03, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2021, 11:18:14 AMIs that for flywheel ?Quote from: boosted on April 03, 2021, 10:33:08 AM3/4 as the 50mm socket we have is 3/4. 150 quid I think. Should do the job rather than counting how many ugga dugga on the impact gun lol
Lol makes your hand look tiny..
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2021, 11:54:34 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 03, 2021, 11:54:34 AM
Yeh, once iv got chance to finish the engine mounts the engine is back out, sump on, flywheel and clutch on, gear box then it's staying in the car so I can start wiring.
Rear nut to be torqued to 300 fl/lbs or something stupid
Oh and to torque up the front nut to 150 ft/lbs I think seeing as iv had the front cover off and swapped it
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Rear nut to be torqued to 300 fl/lbs or something stupid
Oh and to torque up the front nut to 150 ft/lbs I think seeing as iv had the front cover off and swapped it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 03:35:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 03:35:17 PM
Cut some holes, did body work.
Got my ruebo manifold back from my mate as he hasn't had chance to do anything too it as he's mega busy.
Will see if my other welder friend can do it as he can probably do it at his home and much quicker (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/679b907d95217783a1792a049f26a3e4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/d52e111562fefb08f40890d4f0deee30.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/9291904866813cfb4f2f0b1a25983277.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/6b5fc8be0768a41507545226ecd5b6dc.jpg)
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Got my ruebo manifold back from my mate as he hasn't had chance to do anything too it as he's mega busy.
Will see if my other welder friend can do it as he can probably do it at his home and much quicker (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/679b907d95217783a1792a049f26a3e4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/d52e111562fefb08f40890d4f0deee30.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/9291904866813cfb4f2f0b1a25983277.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/6b5fc8be0768a41507545226ecd5b6dc.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
Ha ha brilliant
How's your vision from the seat ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 06:48:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 06:48:22 PM
Not effected really as it not poking out that much.
Iv still got to mount the seat which I think needs to be solid mounted for drag rules
Which I can't do until the cage is in really
Oh removed the steering lock barrel today to and the indicator stalk and the air bag. Which has revealed a nice little bracket I can use to mount my 7c digi dash from
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Iv still got to mount the seat which I think needs to be solid mounted for drag rules
Which I can't do until the cage is in really
Oh removed the steering lock barrel today to and the indicator stalk and the air bag. Which has revealed a nice little bracket I can use to mount my 7c digi dash from
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Barely noticeable. Not like great whopping blower sticking out unfortunately (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/789665c0460bc9ef5c952b1481f6d06d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/79cd4f1188a2ffaee0ca4912cca2c781.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
Contemplating getting rid of this bulge as it really hinders where I can mount the pedal box, pushing it over to the right hand side(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/553e67bdac17f1c9fe59d692df1d26f5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 07:07:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 06, 2021, 07:07:35 PM
Side note, a gear box came up for sale literally after I decided to get new windows in my house(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/f385a96b81233247534347a86fcf7dec.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2021, 03:14:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2021, 03:14:38 PM
Wastegate merge idea number 1 fail.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 09, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
Idea number 2, squash small pipes together, into bigger pipe which is squashed.
Should hopefully be about 1/3 the length of what it is now as needs cutting down.
Tricky business this custom stuff.
Next manifold I need for a bigger turbo I'm taking my car somewhere and leaving it with them and hand over cash for it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/dd1eb164fbb95f8170cfd7c15d4436c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/0bd8fbaa80af6c753fb14a4a6060b840.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/bb546103a84ca680d4bb3cdb8f068996.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/f5f45eb971450e91a6eaef753aded793.jpg)
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Should hopefully be about 1/3 the length of what it is now as needs cutting down.
Tricky business this custom stuff.
Next manifold I need for a bigger turbo I'm taking my car somewhere and leaving it with them and hand over cash for it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/dd1eb164fbb95f8170cfd7c15d4436c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/0bd8fbaa80af6c753fb14a4a6060b840.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/bb546103a84ca680d4bb3cdb8f068996.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210409/f5f45eb971450e91a6eaef753aded793.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 10, 2021, 12:02:51 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 10, 2021, 12:02:51 PM
Looking a bit like the mad professor now lol
I'll keep watching until I understand
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 10, 2021, 01:00:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 10, 2021, 01:00:17 PM
Just ordered some 38mm 90 bends, spoke to a lad and he thinks that might work easier than what I'm trying to do.
If I can't do it I'm taking it to someone
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 10, 2021, 06:17:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 10, 2021, 06:17:35 PM
16 volt batteries, no alternator needed
Just got 4 of them off ebay from a lad in Huddersfield. One for me, one for James and 2 for one of the guys that does the commentating at santa pod.
Absolute bargain(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210410/be555efdbd4bb9c7a29a6c01320dff82.jpg)
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Just got 4 of them off ebay from a lad in Huddersfield. One for me, one for James and 2 for one of the guys that does the commentating at santa pod.
Absolute bargain(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210410/be555efdbd4bb9c7a29a6c01320dff82.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2021, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2021, 02:31:44 PM
So Iv been trying to find exactly how an rx8 diff fits in an mx5, along with the drive shafts etc. However everything I can find there's no full description but I have found this picture
An rx8 diff mounted in an mx5 using what looks like the rx8 axles/driveshafts/wheels pinnerthingys
So the easy bit is mounting the diff, all you need is an rx8 diff and an rx8 diff mounting bracket and it bolts straight into the mx5 subframe. Easy peasy.
Now from other info I have found is that the rx8 hub assembley bolts straight into the mx5, the rx8 units are much beefier, beefier bearing etc
Axles... Now Im sure the rx8s are longer and aparently there are different types, bumpy ones and smooth ones that is literally how people describe them on forums. The smooth ones come from auto rx8s..... Good luck find them in the UK, and whoever owns or ordered an automatic rx8, shame on you. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/ccd4477d73e8ed31e392b0524ab7f9b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/d5be2611105f0d395bda858e1d9ac91b.jpg)
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An rx8 diff mounted in an mx5 using what looks like the rx8 axles/driveshafts/wheels pinnerthingys
So the easy bit is mounting the diff, all you need is an rx8 diff and an rx8 diff mounting bracket and it bolts straight into the mx5 subframe. Easy peasy.
Now from other info I have found is that the rx8 hub assembley bolts straight into the mx5, the rx8 units are much beefier, beefier bearing etc
Axles... Now Im sure the rx8s are longer and aparently there are different types, bumpy ones and smooth ones
that is literally how people describe them on forums. The smooth ones come from auto rx8s..... Good luck find them in the UK, and whoever owns or ordered an automatic rx8, shame on you. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/ccd4477d73e8ed31e392b0524ab7f9b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210412/d5be2611105f0d395bda858e1d9ac91b.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2021, 05:24:20 PM
Post by: Jamie R on April 13, 2021, 05:24:20 PM
Looks like loads of progress since I visited last
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 13, 2021, 10:24:57 PM
Post by: clive on April 13, 2021, 10:24:57 PM
Here you go, this link with diff info may help.
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=395352
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=395352
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 13, 2021, 11:11:52 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 13, 2021, 11:11:52 PM
Yeh iv read that thread many times, I'm picking up some hubs axles and a diff tomorrow from Mr Spiller so I will be able to figure out with those bits as that thread and others iv found online don't share all the details.
The one I found from an ozzy build he explains well how to I stall the diff but when it comes to the drive shafts he just puts a picture up and says its all in.
However the drive shaft are different lengths from an mx5 to an rx8 but I think I might be able to swap the ends over as the spline count is different between the 2 cars
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The one I found from an ozzy build he explains well how to I stall the diff but when it comes to the drive shafts he just puts a picture up and says its all in.
However the drive shaft are different lengths from an mx5 to an rx8 but I think I might be able to swap the ends over as the spline count is different between the 2 cars
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 16, 2021, 07:52:59 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 16, 2021, 07:52:59 PM
Would anyone be shocked if I told you that rx8 drive shafts and mx5 drive shafts are the exact same lengths...
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on April 16, 2021, 08:06:26 PM
Post by: clive on April 16, 2021, 08:06:26 PM
No, its the same floor pan :))
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 16, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 16, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
Quote from: clive on April 16, 2021, 08:06:26 PMI thought the rx8 was wider.
No, its the same floor pan :))
The rx8 rear end swap is literally a bolt in solution, apart from the ppf which requires some fabrication skills
Rx8 diff, rx8 diff mount, rx8 drive shafts and rx8 hubs all bolt straight into the mx5 from the info iv found, just no one has stated it all clearly on a forum.
Literally every mx5 owner could have a 4.44 rear gear ratio for not a lot of money, and even a 4.77 rear gear if they get a diff from an R3, it's only a few pounds heavier too
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PM
Just found my rx7 badge from my FD all those years ago
Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210424/ee053f70c7fb7b7b1ff46d6acbbd48e3.jpg)
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Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 24, 2021, 09:17:39 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 24, 2021, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PMI like
Just found my rx7 badge from my FD all those years ago
Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5
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Have you you tubed yet ?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 09:56:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 09:56:14 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 24, 2021, 09:17:39 PMHa no, I will send them to you palQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PMI like
Just found my rx7 badge from my FD all those years ago
Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 10:00:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 10:00:38 PM
James has now got the uks fastest rotary running an 8.01 at 167mph, beating Chris impeys time of 8.4 seconds
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2021, 10:42:53 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 25, 2021, 10:42:53 AM
I like drag racing
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:20:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:20:41 PM
Got me some 4.5 inch wide by 15 inch skinny. £150 for the pair
Just need some tyres on them now but the weight saving is a good chunk.
Tyres are 180 quid each.... Just need to get my MOT garage to purchase them so I can pay for them with my company bank account and claim back the VAT(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/8e3971b9b0cf0f4ebed47947d9cbaffa.jpg)
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Just need some tyres on them now but the weight saving is a good chunk.
Tyres are 180 quid each.... Just need to get my MOT garage to purchase them so I can pay for them with my company bank account and claim back the VAT
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
I have just put a deposit down for this beast turbo and the appropriate flanges and clamps
GTX4708R with a Tial 1.45 rear housing. The housing is about 700 on its own
So that makes my 366 turbo up for sale as soon as the new monster arrives(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/455e96dd1e98d8de81faf817add0f69f.jpg)
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GTX4708R with a Tial 1.45 rear housing. The housing is about 700 on its own
So that makes my 366 turbo up for sale as soon as the new monster arrives(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/455e96dd1e98d8de81faf817add0f69f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 01, 2021, 09:53:18 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 01, 2021, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
I have just put a deposit down for this beast turbo and the appropriate flanges and clamps
GTX4708R with a Tial 1.45 rear housing. The housing is about 700 on its own
So that makes my 366 turbo up for sale as soon as the new monster arrives(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/455e96dd1e98d8de81faf817add0f69f.jpg)
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ooh that could be tempting although my twins are dialed in nicely at the moment...... I now have Iron Maiden running around my head
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2021, 11:14:15 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 01, 2021, 11:14:15 PM
Quote from: MattScott on May 01, 2021, 09:53:18 PMComes with the v bands and v band clamp the Mormon turbine housing flange, also will throw in the smaller single entry 0.88 turbine housing, which has a hole drilled in it for where I was going to mount the wastage, will also throw in a piece of stainless to be welded to the housing. Will also come with the compressor housing v band flange an clamp once iv cut it off my piece of pipe AND also will throw in a v band flange and clamp for the turbo inlet to be welded on so that you can use a piece of pipe and route a filter to a good location. Aaaannnd will come with the correct fitting for the oil inlet to us an-4 fitting all for the great price of £600Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 30, 2021, 04:29:39 PM
I have just put a deposit down for this beast turbo and the appropriate flanges and clamps
GTX4708R with a Tial 1.45 rear housing. The housing is about 700 on its own
So that makes my 366 turbo up for sale as soon as the new monster arrives(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/455e96dd1e98d8de81faf817add0f69f.jpg)
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I now have Iron Maiden running around my head
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
Blimey Grant either you have a sponsor or its chinese also if its coming from America just about every Garrett product is fake, providing your aware this is not a problem.
I remember Owen Developments telling me they are not bad copies but the blade technology simply isn't there.
Like I said providing your aware this is not a problem :great:
I remember Owen Developments telling me they are not bad copies but the blade technology simply isn't there.
Like I said providing your aware this is not a problem :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 09:56:14 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on April 24, 2021, 09:17:39 PMHa no, I will send them to you palQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PMI like
Just found my rx7 badge from my FD all those years ago
Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5
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Wo the RX-7 was a lot of years ago now
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 10:58:24 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:51:10 AMClive I'm getting it from Owen developments, the turbo is costing me over 3 grand.
Blimey Grant either you have a sponsor or its chinese also if its coming from America just about every Garrett product is fake, providing your aware this is not a problem.
I remember Owen Developments telling me they are not bad copies but the blade technology simply isn't there.
Like I said providing your aware this is not a problem :great:
The rear housing is coming direct from Tial in the states and owens have either got the turbo in stock or they're getting one direct from Garrett as they have to email them. I originally asked about the GTX4708R but they do not supply that version anymore and only now supply the GTX4709R gen 2
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 10:59:21 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: clive on May 02, 2021, 09:52:25 AM15 years agoQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 09:56:14 PMQuote from: Mr Spiller on April 24, 2021, 09:17:39 PMHa no, I will send them to you palQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 24, 2021, 06:08:03 PMI like
Just found my rx7 badge from my FD all those years ago
Going to tart it up and put it on the mx5
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Have you you tubed yet ?
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Wo the RX-7 was a lot of years ago now
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 04:36:36 PM
Post by: clive on May 02, 2021, 04:36:36 PM
Wow, 15 years ago!
Whoops the way the post read I thought you was getting everything for £800 :))
Funny thing is that I mentioned Owen Developments!
Whoops the way the post read I thought you was getting everything for £800 :))
Funny thing is that I mentioned Owen Developments!
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 05:32:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: clive on May 02, 2021, 04:36:36 PMYeh I know. The post was offering my current turbo for 600 quid with all those bits.
Wow, 15 years ago!
Whoops the way the post read I thought you was getting everything for £800 :))
Funny thing is that I mentioned Owen Developments!
I was just trying a few places before to see what I could get and some prices but after trying a number of people in the US and when I mentioned I'm in the UK they just ceased communication so I just went to owens.
I did try AET but they got me quotes for turbos smaller than what I had asked for
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 02, 2021, 06:56:08 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 02, 2021, 06:56:08 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 05:32:06 PMAnd is a very tempting price if I didn't have so many things to fix right now before a new turboQuote from: clive on May 02, 2021, 04:36:36 PMYeh I know. The post was offering my current turbo for 600 quid with all those bits.
Wow, 15 years ago!
Whoops the way the post read I thought you was getting everything for £800 :))
Funny thing is that I mentioned Owen Developments!
I was just trying a few places before to see what I could get and some prices but after trying a number of people in the US and when I mentioned I'm in the UK they just ceased communication so I just went to owens.
I did try AET but they got me quotes for turbos smaller than what I had asked for
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Paul_13 on May 02, 2021, 07:36:04 PM
Post by: Paul_13 on May 02, 2021, 07:36:04 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2021, 02:31:44 PMThe rx8 diff has different mounts. That looks like a rx8 ppf in that pic. Sorry if you've found this out already. Catching up on posts.
So Iv been trying to find exactly how an rx8 diff fits in an mx5, along with the drive shafts etc. However everything I can find there's no full description but I have found this picture
An rx8 diff mounted in an mx5 using what looks like the rx8 axles/driveshafts/wheels pinnerthingys
So the easy bit is mounting the diff, all you need is an rx8 diff and an rx8 diff mounting bracket and it bolts straight into the mx5 subframe. Easy peasy.
Now from other info I have found is that the rx8 hub assembley bolts straight into the mx5, the rx8 units are much beefier, beefier bearing etc
Axles... Now Im sure the rx8s are longer and aparently there are different types, bumpy ones and smooth ones
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You need to cut and shut a rx8 ppf.
I've got a rx8 ppf in the garage with a mx5 diff sat next to it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 07:51:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2021, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: Paul_13 on May 02, 2021, 07:36:04 PMYeh I won't be using a ppf anyway, going to build a brace and mount it solid the chassis, the same as with the gear boxQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 12, 2021, 02:31:44 PMThe rx8 diff has different mounts. That looks like a rx8 ppf in that pic. Sorry if you've found this out already. Catching up on posts.
So Iv been trying to find exactly how an rx8 diff fits in an mx5, along with the drive shafts etc. However everything I can find there's no full description but I have found this picture
An rx8 diff mounted in an mx5 using what looks like the rx8 axles/driveshafts/wheels pinnerthingys
So the easy bit is mounting the diff, all you need is an rx8 diff and an rx8 diff mounting bracket and it bolts straight into the mx5 subframe. Easy peasy.
Now from other info I have found is that the rx8 hub assembley bolts straight into the mx5, the rx8 units are much beefier, beefier bearing etc
Axles... Now Im sure the rx8s are longer and aparently there are different types, bumpy ones and smooth ones
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You need to cut and shut a rx8 ppf.
I've got a rx8 ppf in the garage with a mx5 diff sat next to it
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2021, 09:07:43 AM
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2021, 09:07:43 AM
Wow! Got a piccy of said turbo? Gonna be bigger than the engine.
Ive only been to Santa Pod once and was a great day ill defo be coming to watch you tear up the strip.
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: boosted on May 03, 2021, 09:07:43 AMWhen I get the turbo I will sit it next to the other one then it will give you a size reference. Pictures online don't do it justice.
Wow! Got a piccy of said turbo? Gonna be bigger than the engine.
Ive only been to Santa Pod once and was a great day ill defo be coming to watch you tear up the strip.
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If you YouTube GTX4709R then there a couple videos of people holdijg them.
In fact I will find a video of some ozzys installing the same turbo but slightly larger compressor wheel
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:42 AM
https://youtu.be/LoCSt1RyAZ0
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2021, 11:51:32 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2021, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:42 AMThat's brilliant
https://youtu.be/LoCSt1RyAZ0
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 03, 2021, 12:14:16 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 03, 2021, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2021, 11:51:32 AMThat's one insane big bad boy!!!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/5aac759dd94c0bfc30e5dbb870c8ae4e.jpg)Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 11:38:42 AMThat's brilliant
https://youtu.be/LoCSt1RyAZ0
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When he puts the turbo on his shoulder and it's bigger than his head
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Yep great vid.. also liked the bit about locked beads
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
I think my head is larger than his so I doubt it will guve the same comparison
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 12:45:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2021, 12:45:49 PM
That turbo is the 88mm inducer with the 120mm exducer so it's ever so slightly bigger than mine with a 80mm inducer and 109mm exducer however the compressor housing is the same physical size just machine different for the bigger wheel
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on May 06, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
Post by: re japi on May 06, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
That is one massive snail
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 07, 2021, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 07, 2021, 10:54:13 AM
225/50/16s fd rx7 wheelsshould work perfect and you can fit a 10.5 inch wide tyre on them.
Might need a little arch roll though
Still got room on the inside to the coil, plus after market coilovers will most likely be slimmer so loads of room for meaty tyres (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/6b7fe8899168af131bfb6f3d58828654.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/bca70c87c5529ebcee969f2fa5091d0c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/4204de06542bed677ee64a427d3842f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/847b8b0f5b1162b63b669845279cc2cd.jpg)
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should work perfect and you can fit a 10.5 inch wide tyre on them.Might need a little arch roll though
Still got room on the inside to the coil, plus after market coilovers will most likely be slimmer so loads of room for meaty tyres (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/6b7fe8899168af131bfb6f3d58828654.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/bca70c87c5529ebcee969f2fa5091d0c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/4204de06542bed677ee64a427d3842f5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210507/847b8b0f5b1162b63b669845279cc2cd.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 11:33:31 AM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 11:33:31 AM
Looking good,
Love the wheel stands too lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 07, 2021, 12:10:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 07, 2021, 12:10:51 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 11:33:31 AMCopied you, saw a load of spare wood at work so got my chop saw out. Don't like leaving the car on axle stands as I just don't trust them. Plus on the block the car is sat on its wheel rather than everything hanging down
Looking good,
Love the wheel stands too lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Absolutely ! And you can adjust the height by removing or adding wood.
Simples
Simples
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:24:37 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2021, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 07, 2021, 11:33:31 AMI was thinking exactly the same thing! Great way to give her height and stability.
Looking good,
Love the wheel stands too lol
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 12, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 12, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
Turbo picked up its huge. I must be bigger than that ozzy bloke because his pea head makes it look even bigger (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/dcb7dabd23a98db7c1157289c1c01ff7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/31d0221c544a4e10ec31a94143a966f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/68e0f96a6278eae909011f34a22160fa.jpg)
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its huge. I must be bigger than that ozzy bloke because his pea head makes it look even bigger (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/dcb7dabd23a98db7c1157289c1c01ff7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/31d0221c544a4e10ec31a94143a966f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210512/68e0f96a6278eae909011f34a22160fa.jpg)Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2021, 05:48:57 AM
Post by: re japi on May 13, 2021, 05:48:57 AM
Holy s.... That is massive!
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on May 13, 2021, 08:33:10 AM
Post by: clive on May 13, 2021, 08:33:10 AM
Excellent, another piece of the jigsaw :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 13, 2021, 12:25:46 PM
Post by: Eccentric shaft on May 13, 2021, 12:25:46 PM
Congrats! That must be the Evil Stepmother of All Turbos. How will it affect the power-to-weight-ratio? ;)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 13, 2021, 12:29:51 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 13, 2021, 12:29:51 PM
Well it's a 1650hp capable turbo so I think the power to weight potential has gone significantly up. My other turbo was 600hp potential only
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 14, 2021, 08:06:08 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 14, 2021, 08:06:08 PM
Puts into perspective how big this thing is(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210514/0c0b0f1e0e9533b1c9d3e595dea7b533.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210514/f95b7909053cdd68421cee12a6310d8e.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 11:35:51 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 11:35:51 AM
Size comparison. A 609ho capable turbo for a very fast road worthy fd rx7, versus a proper sized turbo for drag racing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210515/80ef21d3e8acf1cb7f6386d94b8872ed.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:25:15 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:25:15 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 11:35:51 AMJesus that's big !!
Size comparison. A 609ho capable turbo for a very fast road worthy fd rx7, versus a proper sized turbo for drag racing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210515/80ef21d3e8acf1cb7f6386d94b8872ed.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 10:45:44 PM
Post by: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:25:15 PMThat's what she saidQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 11:35:51 AMJesus that's big !!
Size comparison. A 609ho capable turbo for a very fast road worthy fd rx7, versus a proper sized turbo for drag racing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210515/80ef21d3e8acf1cb7f6386d94b8872ed.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 11:26:18 PM
Post by: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 11:26:18 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on May 15, 2021, 10:45:44 PMQuote from: MattScott on May 15, 2021, 09:25:15 PMThat's what she saidQuote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2021, 11:35:51 AMJesus that's big !!
Size comparison. A 609ho capable turbo for a very fast road worthy fd rx7, versus a proper sized turbo for drag racing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210515/80ef21d3e8acf1cb7f6386d94b8872ed.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2021, 09:45:39 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2021, 09:45:39 AM
Looking good grant
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 19, 2021, 07:28:34 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 19, 2021, 07:28:34 PM
https://youtu.be/QKbWI_gRnAk
Here's a burnout of James's car from the first test session
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 27, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 27, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
2 x rx8 diff mounted in mx5 along with rx8 diff carrier and new bushings. Job like that putting the diff in a wish I had a third hand instead of a third leg(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/5493ab113c9bb5d421f217d6a66e47a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/59ec7f62d09894625d5ba5b62e41dfcb.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 27, 2021, 06:50:23 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 27, 2021, 06:50:23 PM
It's a hard job
Tight as hell
Good going
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Good going
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 31, 2021, 01:17:45 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 31, 2021, 01:17:45 PM
Think I'm settled on mounting the turbo like this, less bend, much lower, down pipe almost straight out of the front bumper. Turbo drain back might not have much fall too it but if I raise the turbo an inch it should be fine. Ordered some tube off ebay. Might buy a band saw to cut things straight.
Need some 4 inch stainless for the down pipe but they're like 40 quid per bend and I need 2 45s plus a 90 for the tip to shoot flames straight up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210531/6e59de56c3c78c91ebd1203d35c085c2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210531/2c35de859dbf2dc1016648b54d1f04e5.jpg)
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Need some 4 inch stainless for the down pipe but they're like 40 quid per bend and I need 2 45s plus a 90 for the tip to shoot flames straight up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210531/6e59de56c3c78c91ebd1203d35c085c2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210531/2c35de859dbf2dc1016648b54d1f04e5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 12, 2021, 09:22:47 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 12, 2021, 09:22:47 PM
Well well, looks kind of cool with the front drag wheels and tyres on it (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210612/e81913a6c15fa761867020aa43504ffd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210612/c06debb6ace574b422ad7bc34e939514.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2021, 09:46:06 AM
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2021, 09:46:06 AM
I'm looking forward to see the exhaust sticking out the bumper
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on June 13, 2021, 10:34:04 AM
Post by: clive on June 13, 2021, 10:34:04 AM
Getting there :great:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 22, 2021, 11:08:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 22, 2021, 11:08:17 PM
Went to see my mate in London that's building a pro import 2jz drag car and he pulls these scales out and says I can borrow them really want to know what the car weighs as my car completely different to everyone elses due to the rotary setup.
I'm guessing 850kg maybe 900kg
Once I know the weight I can use an ET calculator to see what potential the car will run with certain amount of hp(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210622/3eebdcdd21c960016a571c5bbc1237c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210622/fd6d07357777a3015601f7e50b144801.jpg)
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really want to know what the car weighs as my car completely different to everyone elses due to the rotary setup.I'm guessing 850kg maybe 900kg
Once I know the weight I can use an ET calculator to see what potential the car will run with certain amount of hp
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 22, 2021, 11:09:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 22, 2021, 11:09:04 PM
Oops photo fail (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210622/3daadd9119f4c0c1b5fc8f5156ad2f37.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210622/84c0cdb0f8c96e5c883cce10f1ede644.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 12:28:02 AM
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 12:28:02 AM
Very nice piece of kit there :icon_thumleft:
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 12:28:32 AM
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2021, 12:28:32 AM
Sweepstake on overall weight Grant? ;)
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2021, 02:24:08 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2021, 02:24:08 AM
Yeh, winner gets bag of crisps.
Weights with me in. I weigh 93kg
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Weights with me in. I weigh 93kg
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
Few things not on the car but all in all this car will still be under 1000kg/2200lbs with me. In it
Here a picture of an ET calculator also(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/c96b5cde29d7779afac4d784bb35e0d9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/0b96265422c6d499d4d2398e99ade859.jpg)
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Here a picture of an ET calculator also(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/c96b5cde29d7779afac4d784bb35e0d9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/0b96265422c6d499d4d2398e99ade859.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2021, 04:36:24 AM
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2021, 04:36:24 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2021, 07:42:10 PMUnder 1000kg, with you in it? Thats great
Few things not on the car but all in all this car will still be under 1000kg/2200lbs with me. In it
Here a picture of an ET calculator also(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/c96b5cde29d7779afac4d784bb35e0d9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/0b96265422c6d499d4d2398e99ade859.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:19:32 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:19:32 PM
Who would have thought swapping the rear end rx8 parts into an mx5 would be so hard
There are inserts that sit in the hubs, which are stuck onto my control arms (mx5 ones) that do not fit into the rx8 hub
This is one of the inserts that sits in the hub, they're a complete ball ache to remove, they either stay in the hub OR they come out stuck to the trailing arms(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210625/8d50545856f62555aea9e430a8dfc04d.jpg)
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There are inserts that sit in the hubs, which are stuck onto my control arms (mx5 ones) that do not fit into the rx8 hub
This is one of the inserts that sits in the hub, they're a complete ball ache to remove, they either stay in the hub OR they come out stuck to the trailing arms
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:20:46 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:20:46 PM
This is the rx8 hub by the way, this hole too small for the insert which is stuck onto my mx5 trailing arm... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210625/974e81ef16de6aa4d14b735dedf81bd7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210625/5b0fca7a9137ae06f92f9bddaa72cebe.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:23:57 PM
This one however is the exact same size as the mx5 one.
Need to get the sleeves off the trailing arms and either turn them down or find some rx8 ones.
I am not buying a full set of rx8 arms as I cannot be bothered with doing all of the rear end bushings again.
Thought I would have the hubs and rear axles in today but nope. Honestly losing interest in trying to get things done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210625/3dc90a2381f6e4ef124d71e876c1c914.jpg)
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Need to get the sleeves off the trailing arms and either turn them down or find some rx8 ones.
I am not buying a full set of rx8 arms as I cannot be bothered with doing all of the rear end bushings again.
Thought I would have the hubs and rear axles in today but nope. Honestly losing interest in trying to get things done(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210625/3dc90a2381f6e4ef124d71e876c1c914.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on June 26, 2021, 09:06:46 AM
Post by: clive on June 26, 2021, 09:06:46 AM
I know it's tough carrying on when things go wrong, but you have done so well till now you cant stop now.
If the shaft size is the same on the MX-5 as the RX-8 can you not just use the MX-5 hub?
If the shaft size is the same on the MX-5 as the RX-8 can you not just use the MX-5 hub?
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 23, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
Think iv sussed it. The hub assembly for the rx8 and mx5 is identical, even where the bearing sits in. So I'm going to buy 2 x new rear bearings and press those, along with the rx8 hubs into the mx5 hub assembly, after removing the bearing and hub first obviously
The picture shows the diameter of the rx8 bearing and I measured the mx5 one and it was identical, 0.02 difference on the vernier but that's me measuring in slightly different place(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210723/d551a4a9de319618e5964536094f0ab5.jpg)
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The picture shows the diameter of the rx8 bearing and I measured the mx5 one and it was identical, 0.02 difference on the vernier but that's me measuring in slightly different place(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210723/d551a4a9de319618e5964536094f0ab5.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 23, 2021, 06:56:19 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 25, 2021, 12:19:32 PMAbsolute tw*** when they stuck in the arms
Who would have thought swapping the rear end rx8 parts into an mx5 would be so hard
There are inserts that sit in the hubs, which are stuck onto my control arms (mx5 ones) that do not fit into the rx8 hub
This is one of the inserts that sits in the hub, they're a complete ball ache to remove, they either stay in the hub OR they come out stuck to the trailing arms
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 02:57:13 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 02:57:13 PM
Final I have the rear end done!
As for rx8 and mx5 being the same, I disagree.
Bearings looks similar but are different.
Wheel hubs look similar but are different.
The insert sleeves that go into the hub carrier are different also. The inserts in them are 1 mm larger on the mx5 than the rx8 so do not press in. The mx5 inserts are also 5mm longer than the rx8s
Easiest way to swap and rx8 rear end into an mx5 is to buy a complete rear subframe from an rx8, strip it, clean it, paint it, new bushings and install.
Don't do what I have done it takes far too long.
The time, effort and money it takes to do what I have done I could have just had the rear end cut out and back halfed the car with a 9 inch diff.
Now I have to check the angles of the gear box and diff, get a prop shaft made and then work on solid mounting the diff and gear box.
Although I might do the brake lines before that.
Clutch slipper is mounted.
Reinstalled the standard brake and clutch pedal. The pedal box I bought was just too much work and required me to cut and alter part of the floor to move it into a central position.
My mates going to do me a roll cage
Few jobs knocked off my list
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As for rx8 and mx5 being the same, I disagree.
Bearings looks similar but are different.
Wheel hubs look similar but are different.
The insert sleeves that go into the hub carrier are different also. The inserts in them are 1 mm larger on the mx5 than the rx8 so do not press in. The mx5 inserts are also 5mm longer than the rx8s
Easiest way to swap and rx8 rear end into an mx5 is to buy a complete rear subframe from an rx8, strip it, clean it, paint it, new bushings and install.
Don't do what I have done it takes far too long.
The time, effort and money it takes to do what I have done I could have just had the rear end cut out and back halfed the car with a 9 inch diff.
Now I have to check the angles of the gear box and diff, get a prop shaft made and then work on solid mounting the diff and gear box.
Although I might do the brake lines before that.
Clutch slipper is mounted.
Reinstalled the standard brake and clutch pedal. The pedal box I bought was just too much work and required me to cut and alter part of the floor to move it into a central position.
My mates going to do me a roll cage
Few jobs knocked off my list
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2021, 04:55:46 PM
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2021, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 02:57:13 PMGood work
Final I have the rear end done!
As for rx8 and mx5 being the same, I disagree.
Bearings looks similar but are different.
Wheel hubs look similar but are different.
The insert sleeves that go into the hub carrier are different also. The inserts in them are 1 mm larger on the mx5 than the rx8 so do not press in. The mx5 inserts are also 5mm longer than the rx8s
Easiest way to swap and rx8 rear end into an mx5 is to buy a complete rear subframe from an rx8, strip it, clean it, paint it, new bushings and install.
Don't do what I have done it takes far too long.
The time, effort and money it takes to do what I have done I could have just had the rear end cut out and back halfed the car with a 9 inch diff.
Now I have to check the angles of the gear box and diff, get a prop shaft made and then work on solid mounting the diff and gear box.
Although I might do the brake lines before that.
Clutch slipper is mounted.
Reinstalled the standard brake and clutch pedal. The pedal box I bought was just too much work and required me to cut and alter part of the floor to move it into a central position.
My mates going to do me a roll cage
Few jobs knocked off my list
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Can't believe you have a shopping list that big
Mine only ever has 2 things on there
Just regulatory swapped around
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 06:38:35 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on September 17, 2021, 04:55:46 PMIv gone through everything in my head to finish the car but. There's probably things iv still forgotten.Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 17, 2021, 02:57:13 PMGood work
Final I have the rear end done!
As for rx8 and mx5 being the same, I disagree.
Bearings looks similar but are different.
Wheel hubs look similar but are different.
The insert sleeves that go into the hub carrier are different also. The inserts in them are 1 mm larger on the mx5 than the rx8 so do not press in. The mx5 inserts are also 5mm longer than the rx8s
Easiest way to swap and rx8 rear end into an mx5 is to buy a complete rear subframe from an rx8, strip it, clean it, paint it, new bushings and install.
Don't do what I have done it takes far too long.
The time, effort and money it takes to do what I have done I could have just had the rear end cut out and back halfed the car with a 9 inch diff.
Now I have to check the angles of the gear box and diff, get a prop shaft made and then work on solid mounting the diff and gear box.
Although I might do the brake lines before that.
Clutch slipper is mounted.
Reinstalled the standard brake and clutch pedal. The pedal box I bought was just too much work and required me to cut and alter part of the floor to move it into a central position.
My mates going to do me a roll cage
Few jobs knocked off my list
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Can't believe you have a shopping list that big
Mine only ever has 2 things on there
Just regulatory swapped around
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Things like oil line fittings and lines
You wouldn't believe the amount of AN lines and fittings I have gone through
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on September 17, 2021, 08:52:12 PM
Post by: clive on September 17, 2021, 08:52:12 PM
Great to see your still at it and although you have had grief, your getting there
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2021, 04:42:39 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 18, 2021, 04:42:39 PM
Can anyone tell me which outlet on the brake cylinder is for the front brakes and which is for the rear?
Or is it as simple as the one at the front is for the fronts? Thanks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210918/4448bfd13829d1f77522c496e0d6540f.jpg)
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Or is it as simple as the one at the front is for the fronts? Thanks(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210918/4448bfd13829d1f77522c496e0d6540f.jpg)
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: re japi on September 20, 2021, 06:55:52 AM
Post by: re japi on September 20, 2021, 06:55:52 AM
Good job mate
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2022, 09:20:54 AM
Post by: Jamie R on January 22, 2022, 09:20:54 AM
Is all OK Grant?
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2022, 10:54:55 AM
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2022, 10:54:55 AM
Where are you Grant? Come on show us your progress.
( hope all ok your end).
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Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Casey on January 26, 2022, 11:33:54 AM
Post by: Casey on January 26, 2022, 11:33:54 AM
Yep, where are you Grant? Hope you are OK.
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2022, 09:05:24 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 13, 2022, 09:05:24 AM
Got myself a full bridge port, semi pp, fully balanced motor with a fancy billet Crank in. South Coast rotary complete Intake manifold too.
Roll cage is complete minus one bar as ran out of tube but have that now.
Last tube and parachute mounts going in next, and finishing off seat mounting. Then to make a nice gas pedal too.
I am now going to be using a Ford c4 3speed auto, as this engine is good for what ever power I want as it should be OK for up to 50psi and 12,000 rpm, although we aren't going to need that kind of boost.
With the car weighing not a great deal, it is only going to need around 600hp to crack a 9 second pass with ease
If you Google 1/4 mile et calculator and put in my car weight which will be around 2200 pounds, and any amount of hp it will calculate what the car is capable of, potentially
Roll cage is complete minus one bar as ran out of tube but have that now.
Last tube and parachute mounts going in next, and finishing off seat mounting. Then to make a nice gas pedal too.
I am now going to be using a Ford c4 3speed auto, as this engine is good for what ever power I want as it should be OK for up to 50psi and 12,000 rpm, although we aren't going to need that kind of boost.
With the car weighing not a great deal, it is only going to need around 600hp to crack a 9 second pass with ease
If you Google 1/4 mile et calculator and put in my car weight which will be around 2200 pounds, and any amount of hp it will calculate what the car is capable of, potentially
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: clive on November 13, 2022, 04:18:27 PM
Post by: clive on November 13, 2022, 04:18:27 PM
Wow Grant, so impressive. You will know I wish you well with the project
Title: Re: All great things have a beginning
Post by: lennycarloff on November 13, 2022, 05:49:07 PM
Post by: lennycarloff on November 13, 2022, 05:49:07 PM
That looks so shiny, I am so jealous :sign0098: