Black fd racing

[royal]

I\'m sitting here trying to work out if you are genuinely interesting in having some fun with the two marques of cars (which I\'m sure many people here would readily take up, the rotary scene is very much into driving the cars as they should be), or if you\'ve just got nothing better to do than go on different forums to try to disect and find holes in what people say?
If you are genuinely interested why don\'t we arrange a time with the guys/girls in your club to do a meet at an airfield or something like that and do some times? It\'ll be a great day, everyone gets to meet fellow car enthusiasts, we can have a BBQ etc.

[Frankie]

You quote the second half of the post denying the bit that I answered... Why do that? He said

"When you can make one of these Cooops do a 4sec 0-60 a sub 10sec 0-100 I might ..... just might agree they are worth tuning"

So i said we can? Are you wearing bifocal lenses or something? Tip ya head back and you\'ll see all of the posts mate

Dreamer I can’t be arsed to go back through the stuff you’ve written, talk is cheap.  Fix up your ride and arrange a meeting.

[iaint]

Apologies then, I took FWHP as front wheel horse power as I\'ve often seen RWHP quoted.

An rx-7 with front wheel power?  This is the lamest \'back out\' I\'ve ever seen.

You have to understand though, that for a FWD car to get 9.6 secs, it must be faster than a rwd car when rolling that can get the same?

I can see your logic here - you\'re assuming the rwd car will always launch better which is generally true.  Of course, talking about your hypothetical 9.6 0-100mph coop  we\'ve got cars in the UK doing 140+ in that time (e.g. the dragon/re:worx cars).

Elsewhere in the world there are 7 and 8 second 1/4 mile rx\'s.  Some roatries are doing 6 second quarters IIRC.

At the end of the day, while the coop is a quick car, it\'s still fundamentally flawed by being FWD and is (as it\'s named) a coupe not an out and out sports car - it\'d be RWD if Fiat had wanted to do a proper sports car.

[royal]

TBH Trappy you come across as insulting and aloof with your attitude. If you are genuine in that you wish to learn more about engines and turbos and so on I suggest you learn some manners. Your history across the forums is quite consistent and you have said yourself what you do:

Yeah but i like the way that they give in one by one, until they can do nothing but agree. Every point is systematically broken down and disected until they have nothing to say. No stupid name calling, no slagging off their cars, (which i like) and no bad press for us guys.

\'Plus hours of entertainment to keep me happy while the coop\'s off the road. That\'s why I never meet them, i only do it when the cars in the garage lol.

I call them the rabble. All jap car forums have them. They clear off after the laughs go. You just have to be a little persistant to seperate the decent ones. Had the same thing on the skyline forum a few months back.

Didn\'t take long for the guy to get shot down.... which was nice
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Surely this is just plain insulting?? Why not come on these forums with a different attitude? The guys arn\'t getting shot down, they are just not bored enough to carry on with a conversation thats going no where useful.

[Trappy]

An rx-7 with front wheel power?  This is the lamest \'back out\' I\'ve ever seen.
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Please, read John Yorke\'s post, you\'ll see what i mean then. It\'s not a lame \'back-out\' at all.

Ok here\'s a link to our forum 1/4 mile and power sheets.
http://www.online-presence.co.uk/_coupe/
Have a looky at this stuff and draw your own conclusions about how quick they are. Just to note, the power and times don\'t always tally, some have been modded since the 1/4mile day for example.

[AshRX]

The fastest 1/4 was 11.94

Not that impressive i must say from a 500bhp car

[johnf]

I\'ve read most of this and thb I think there is fundamental point missing.

Until reading this post I didn\'t even know what a \'coop\' was, I\'m sure I wouldn\'t even notice one on the road.

The RX is a classic, I don\'t really care if some boring saloon type car is quicker than mine, you just won\'t get the same smile on your face as when you look on your drive and see an RX.

How many ppl stop and tell you what fantastic looking car you\'ve got.

Just another non-descript car out of the same computer mould as so many others.

If your car was twice as quick as mine I wouln\'t have it as gift - each to their own and I hope you enjoy it.

John

[BlitzBoy]

Blah blah blah
Bullsh*t stops when the flag drops.
The Fiat Coupe Turbo boys will be at TEN OF THE BEST this sunday.
Us the FDUK boys me,Robertio,Ant,Tim,and Ross will also be competing as well.
So we shall see proper timed runs in the Top speed,Quarter mile and Handling course then we can do some comparisons

[royal]

Cool, good to see some positive things happening!

[Laeeq]

Blah blah blah
Bullsh*t stops when the flag drops.
The Fiat Coupe Turbo boys will be at TEN OF THE BEST this sunday.
Us the FDUK boys me,Robertio,Ant,Tim,and Ross will also be competing as well.
So we shall see proper timed runs in the Top speed,Quarter mile and Handling course then we can do some comparisons

Well done Mark and good luck on Sunday.  I may try to turn up to see how **** these coops are>>>>

I don\'t know why we are bothering with this crappy.   Let the action do all the talking and after Sunday we should all see.  So, if Crappys has any self reaspect then he should keep his mouth shut till Sunday...

[BlitzBoy]

Thanks Laeeq.
http://www.totb.co.uk/home/

is the list of cars competing, it be interesting to see how the Fiat with 460bhp copes for traction

[dre]

Trappy - how far down are you on that list - Fiat Coupes Hall of Shame??

All the 300bhp cars are struggling to get into the 14\'s on the 1/4 which is what a stock FD will do. Also i can\'t believe johns car is 460 @ the fly and 420 @ the wheels?? Don\'t sound right to me!!!!

Any terminal speeds for their 1/4 times??

[royal]

 Thats a lot of power through the front wheels!! I\'m no expert but surely that isn\'t accepted as sensible? Hope he\'s steering with the rear wheels!

[Trappy]

Trappy - how far down are you on that list - Fiat Coupes Hall of Shame??

All the 300bhp cars are struggling to get into the 14\'s on the 1/4 which is what a stock FD will do. Also i can\'t believe johns car is 460 @ the fly and 420 @ the wheels?? Don\'t sound right to me!!!!

Any terminal speeds for their 1/4 times??

I can\'t speak for JohnS...

I haven\'t been dyno\'d since bog standard, at the moment it\'s 255-260bhp at the fly.

Terminal speeds are shown under details where available.

They are **** over the 1/4. No denying it, i don\'t know why they bother persisting with it TBH. No amount of power get\'s it below 5 secs to 60. Our bog standard 1/4 mile is the same as a scooby turbo (218bhp)...
My mods should give me around 13.9 at 105mph but until i do it, it\'s just speculation of course.

Can\'t speak for the 300bhp guys that can\'t get under 14 though... Mostly it was wet or something i think.

Not sure who\'s going yet....

[Laeeq]

so what the **** point of your this post then;

Ok here\'s a link to our forum 1/4 mile and power sheets.
http://www.online-presence.co.uk/_coupe/
Have a looky at this stuff and draw your own conclusions about how quick they are. Just to note, the power and times don\'t always tally, some have been modded since the 1/4mile day for example.



AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND SAY THIS:

I can\'t speak for JohnS...

I haven\'t been dyno\'d since bog standard, at the moment it\'s 255-260bhp at the fly.

Terminal speeds are shown under details where available.

They are **** over the 1/4. No denying it, i don\'t know why they bother persisting with it TBH. No amount of power get\'s it below 5 secs to 60. Our bog standard 1/4 mile is the same as a scooby turbo (218bhp)...
My mods should give me around 13.9 at 105mph but until i do it, it\'s just speculation of course.

Can\'t speak for the 300bhp guys that can\'t get under 14 though... Mostly it was wet or something i think.

Not sure who\'s going yet....