Black fd racing

Started by Trappy, June 29, 2006, 06:23:40 PM

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Trappy

Got a post off the coop forum and was wondering if it was anyone on here? No idea where cos it wasn\'t me that saw it...

http://www.fccuk.org/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=136991&an=0&page=0#Post136991

Kash_

looking at the post in the link the fiat had to push his boost controller to 1.35 bar to beat the FD :rollin :rollin  who was most probably running standard boost...push the FD to 1.35 bar and the Fiat would be eating the FD\'s dust...

Trappy

What is standard boost on an FD then matey? I\'ve noticed they seem to get real high power with low boost, but then you don\'t get many 1.3litre engines making 237bhp like the new RX8!!

How much power did the original FD have without the turbos?

gsb876

Very funny, so if a rx7 has a dump valve its supposed to be fast then ??

Fiat Coupe :rolleyes:
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gsb876

Quote from: TrappyWhat is standard boost on an FD then matey? I\'ve noticed they seem to get real high power with low boost, but then you don\'t get many 1.3litre engines making 237bhp like the new RX8!!

How much power did the original FD have without the turbos?

I think the standard boost on a TT FD is 0.8 bar ? :Tongue1
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Kash_

BIG difference between 0.8 and 1.35 bar !! :eek

Just to put into perspective (standard cars) :

FD Turbo - 260 bhp
Fiat Turbo - 220 bhp

The Fiat you mention is running 1.35 bar which equals way more power then the FD... if he didn\'t win then it would have been an embarassment and a half :rollin :p

John Yorke

Quite interesting realy, at the Jap show on the weekend saw to of these \'mighty\' machines on the strip, quite impressive for a FWD - think they managed to break the 16\'s :King

Trappy I know you must love your car just as much as everyone on this forum, and I would point out it is a ROTARY forum for ROTARY CARS, you might find a more respectfull response if you accepted the superior nature of the machine compared to the FWD you love.

alban1973

Quote:-  woohoo, 70-80-90-100, so quick the numbers and I\'m having to hold back behind him  ,...! I then go to the outside lane,... I am alongside him when he slows slightly for a car on the inside, I lift off also, and when he\'s behind me again I floor it!  ,..100,110,120,130 so fast!   he has floored it also!,.(edit:  how does he know? I think he was maybe concerned?? )..this time he has fallen back quite a few car lengths


I think he then woke up and had his cornflakes...  Also, if you were following a fiat who was pushing the biscuit tin that fast i think I would hold back a few car lengths to avoid all the bits that would be flying off in your path.  No offence to the owner, but I have unfortunately had dealings with Fiat cars......
1982 Elford turbo
Jaguar sovereign 4.0
citroen Xantia 1.9td
Mazda 626 2.2 4wd
Some Vans

craig

LOL as some 1 that used to drive  a 20v turbo alot  with a few mods,these are not bad cars for a fwd.But in no way can they pull car lengths on an fd  + what ever he says all of them handle like  ****

DRAGON

Also bear in mind that FDs are notorious for the second turbo etc not working, so cant say it was necessarily up to full health.

Trappy

Quote from: craigLOL as some 1 that used to drive  a 20v turbo alot  with a few mods,these are not bad cars for a fwd.But in no way can they pull car lengths on an fd  + what ever he says all of them handle like  ****

What mods did you have? Were you on the forum? If not then you wouldn\'t have the best, first cheap mods... Please state EXACTLY what mods you had.

This guys coop is 320bhp+. It will **** all over a 300bhp FD ffs nevermind a slightly unhealthy standard one. Also it is probably the best handling coop on the forum. Still not gonna be better than a rex obviously but he didn\'t say it was??

As for all the bits falling off posts etc. Does that post not look embarrissing when you read it to yourself? You sound like a moron with an XR3i cabriolet in a McDonalds carpark mate. I can just imagine the group of goons with you going "yeah, hehe".

Next time one of you guys races a coop, put it on here, please. You should have a vs thread so i can get an idea of how quick your motors are with differing amounts of power.

Ok, try this. How does a standard rex (255-265bhp versions) generally do against a standard:

Skyline R33 GTS-turbo
Supra TT
WRX STI (98 \'proper\' version)
Evo VI
Boxster S (older one)

How much power do you need to real in this lot:
Griffith 500
Tuscan
Cerb 4.2
Ferrari 360

Basically a standard coop is faster than a WRX STI over 100mph-150mph. Under this speed we lose out down to launch and gearing.
With 360bhp and lbs/ft torque we are level with a 360 Modena.

At the end of the day we weigh the same as you guys and transfer more of our power to the ground (FWD vs RWD). With equal power, we have much more torque and a lot more of both getting to the ground. How can anyone argue that?

Oh FCCUK it, next meet i\'m coming with 280bhp and lb/ft of torque.

Wav

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I have a lot of respect for the fiat coupe 20v turbo, but at the end of the day it is simply a Tipo squashed into a posh frock. All rx7\'s, especially the FD, are designed to be a thoroughbred sports car from the word go. Therefore it is difficult to compare the two fairly and I think the only comparison you guys (coupe posse) would like to do is a rolling start from between a speed of 50mph to perhaps 150mph at best against a std ish FD. Remember we always quote rear wheel horse power on here, and if I do ever have the opportunity to have a duel with a 20vt i\'ll definitely post up how my std turbo\'d FD did :flamed ;)

Paul

P.S. Remember this a mazda rotary forum, so don\'t be suprised that we\'re a little biased towards the non-piston cars, and oh yes rotary cars tend to demonstrate much greater speed compared to the actual power they put out!

Laeeq

Oh FCCUK it, next meet i\'m coming with 280bhp and lb/ft of torque.[/QUOTE]

Now we talking...

We will be going to Ace cafe on Tuesday round 7 ish.  Our meetin point is at BP Garage, hust after the billet under pass.  You can join the convoy and show us all what a real coop can do.

Oh and i can put you on the guest list too so you can park inside the carpark too.

See you on Tuesday...:yes :wave
Laeeq

Trappy

I\'m on holiday from tmw till next saturday. Have a mini meet the week after if ya like. I\'m only running 1.05bar atm so only 260ish bhp but I couldn\'t give a rats. I\'ll be there. :driving

Kash_

QuoteYou can join the convoy and show us all what a real coop can do.

Now were talking bro :Thumbs-up... lets see what the Tipo turbo can really do... lol :rollin