dream land?

[LDA]

hey all,

just found this on the sxoc

i have recently raced 3 Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo\'s

and i beat all three ( i thought one had an exhaust and an apexi)
so i want to know what power you think I have

Please not they were all racing 2 definetely the other not as sure cause it was slow

this was from a stage 1 s13 owner. his mods would give him about 230hp and he gives no more details than that as to how he \'raced\' the fd\'s.

i dont think for one second that he properly raced any spec fd and won. what do you lot think?
could your car (or any other fd) take a 230hp s13 to school?
or could an s13 whip an fd?

discuss

L.

[iaint]

Did the FD owners know they were in a race?

If that\'s 213 ponies at the flywheel then no chance in a race, if it\'s at the wheels then it\'s about the same as a stockish FD.

Not that many of us running standard power though - mine\'s mildly modded and around 293rwhp (~350fly) and I\'d expect to walk all over a S13 in most circumstances.

Could be that the FDs were running in rebuilds though

Iain

[ScuttleRX]

Annoying when people say this, hes obviously trying to compare the cars but how can you do that with a road race? So many other factors like what speeds/gears both people are in when the \'race\' starts, who else is on the road,etc, not to mention obvious stuff like safety and speed cameras (sensible hat on). Lets drag him to the drag strip and whoop his ass

[rx7aberdeen]

think the rest of the sx owners are bit more switched on and live in the real word
check link

[Christopher]

james01uk is a friend of mine and what he says is true.

The 200sx gearing is shorter then the RX-7. He a friend of mine and I have 300 at wheels but he keeps with me until he changes gear then I still have 2000rpm more. Im faster than him but his car is still quick. He is quicker than stock RX-7\'s form a 3rd gear roll on at about 60mph Im affraid to say. Also hes beaten one off the lights and he started behind it.

I was driving back from Reading with him when he raced a couple of you that were at the meet and he beat you both and this was with his heavy 18" wheels on which has made him alot slower than he was.

... and yes the fd\'s were racing I WAS THERE!

[rx7aberdeen]

Im sorry i just cant believe that.  Unless his car is unbelievably quick

[Christopher]

His car is:

lighter than a stock fd
more power than a stock fd
closer gear ratio than a stock fd

He got a 13.9 1/4 mile time. I dont think stock fd\'s get out of the 14\'s


I couldn\'t beleive how quick his car is as we have been modding it ourselves (mostly him doing the work though  :rollin Im more of a \'what you need to do next\' guy lol). Im not sure what bhp there are stock but its prety quick now. Its slower since he put the 18\'s on but there for drifting which is what he built the car for.

EDIT: I like the way this thread hasn\'t turned into an argument like the SXOC one did. I think alot of them think that stock fd\'s are 280bhp which is why they find it so hard to beleive.

[LDA]

i do believe that his 200sx s13 has about 230hp at the fly and did go past 3 rx7\'s. weather they were racing is a totally different matter. never is a stage 1 s13 going to beat even a low spec stock fd if the fd is trying.

i dont think the bloke is a lier, but i do think he is deluded.

L.

[Christopher]

Its not stage 1

It has one of those stage 1 chip\'s yes but those chips are rubbish. He has a rebuilt engine and turbo. The turbo now has a 360 degree thrust bearing so its not a completley normal T25 but its not going to do much. He has full exhaust from turbo back, large front mount, uprated fuel pump, and running over 1 bar. His boost controler only goes up to 1 bar but we think its running more  :rollin

[rx7aberdeen]

EDIT: I like the way this thread hasn\'t turned into an argument like the SXOC one did. I think alot of them think that stock fd\'s are 280bhp which is why they find it so hard to beleive.

I’m here to represent my mate from the sxoc (glens14a)
You and your mate are both in fairy land, as it was pointed out on the sxoc that this “200+bhp S13” not only wipes the floor  with 3 completely different and completely standard (bar back box’s) RX7’s but it can also beat skyline GTS-T and scoobs, and from this wealth of information they are then supposed to be able to calculate his power out-put.
And glens14a has asked me to say something constructive to you
GROW UP and stop racing on the open road and then lying  to make yourself feel more important.

[iaint]

EDIT: I like the way this thread hasn\'t turned into an argument like the SXOC one did. I think alot of them think that stock fd\'s are 280bhp which is why they find it so hard to beleive.

Most stock FDs are the 255fwhp versions, some the slightly later 265fwhp ones.  It\'s only the much later \'sporty\' models that had 280fwhp.  If there\'s much weight difference plus gearing then it would indeed be a lcose thing with the S13 (moderatley modded) having an edge over stock 255hp FDs.

Nothing wrong with being slower in stock form and I know which is better looking

[Christopher]

Cheers for bringing insults to this thread from other people!! Might aswel lock the thread if thats whats going to happen because its only going to lead to arguments. The starter of this thread wanted a discusion not insults. Although (maybe) this thread was only started to cause problems!!! but I beleieve this is a lagitimate question.

James has posted this about the scooby and the skyline on that forum. Not sure what this has to do with this thread though?

Out of interest what does a stock scooby wrx and skyline R33GTS do 1/4 mile?

Most stock FDs are the 255fwhp versions, some the slightly later 265fwhp ones.  It\'s only the much later \'sporty\' models that had 280fwhp.  If there\'s much weight difference plus gearing then it would indeed be a lcose thing with the S13 (moderatley modded) having an edge over stock 255hp FDs.

Nothing wrong with being slower in stock form and I know which is better looking

Completley agree. RX-7 looks sooo much nicer lol

An RX-7 with the same/ equivilent mods would beat this 200sx for sure. Not many FD\'s run over 1bar on stock twins though

[Donato]

I’m here to represent my mate from the sxoc (glens14a)
You and your mate are both in fairy land, as it was pointed out on the sxoc that this “200+bhp S13” not only wipes the floor  with 3 completely different and completely standard (bar back box’s) RX7’s but it can also beat skyline GTS-T and scoobs, and from this wealth of information they are then supposed to be able to calculate his power out-put.
And glens14a has asked me to say something constructive to you
GROW UP and stop racing on the open road and then lying  to make yourself feel more important.

lets keep this friendly please.  :chat

[dandan]

I have a friend with an s14, exhaust, filters so not much over stock,
i have about 250-275rwhp (will find out exactly at re-worx tomorrow) and i can leave him with a nice view of my rear bumper any time I like.
I can\'t see any mildly modded 200 coming close to a Rex IMHO.

Also my experience of RX owners is that they are mostly (Scooby Si excluded:)) a sensible bunch, and probably wouldn\'t floor it in a race on a public road, especially if there was other traffic about.

[Brett]

 From the sounds of it though this S13A is not exactly \'lightly modded\' its running a stage 1 chip yes but it does have a large turbo and a good 14psi behind it....

Out of interest what are the standard times for an S13a? (0-60, 0-100 etc)