FC and FD owners?

Started by 20B_boy, April 26, 2004, 06:34:52 PM

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sadgoth

not sure if you could get a spec like 88GTR\'s for less than £5k, if memory serves he is running:
T88 turbo
V-Mount IC (yes I know he fabricated it himself, but if you or I were to do it it would need to be bought)
Microtech LT8
Microtech Dash Unit
combination of S4 & S5 bits
and a few other bits and pieces!

bearing in mind the T88 would require an external wastegate, custom manifold and hardpiping to IC the V-Mount IC would set u back a pretty penny (RE-Amemiya £1800 + shipping & VAT :eek: ) + fitting of the above I reckon unless you were to do the fitting yourself and you managed to find a cheap IC that would come in over £5k. Also to get serious power from the engine it really needs porting.
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

grinder

REALLY - and heres me thinking 5K would get you some nice power out put ??

oh well eh - maybe not


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sadgoth

depends on what u mean by nice! :D  Â£5k would defo get you a decent amount of power, but big power needs so many thing:
ECU
Exhaust
big FMIC / V-mount
uprated Turbo
porting
clutch
bigger injectors + pump

and that list if you add fitting costs comes to more than £5k
although you can save on IC if you go for un unbranded one, save on turbo if you buy turbo on its own rather than in kit form and ECU if you decide to fit it yourself!
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

grinder

hummm yeah i see what you mean matey ...

i think i will just leave mine to rust away on the drive :( - not spending over 5k to get decent power

easier to buy and FD and apexi - that should see you over 300BHP and not too much hassle :(


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88GT-R

Hi,

I have been pretty fortunate with what bits i have run into, but the main point is this... if you have all the bits needed for big power, you will need alot of time to get it all setup to give you the right performance. I have been tuning mine near enough everytime i drive it, for the last 2 years. Still not good enough.

5g\'s will get you a good base:
ECU
pump
Pair of injectors
Ported block using S4 and S6 componants.
T04E Hybrid(Possibly)

Then start saving and looking for a 2nd hand turbo kit including wastegate, downpipe etc.
...plus a bit of chassis work:D

Stu....FD...Apexi...we have had this chat before...

John
88 GT-R

grinder

"Stu....FD...Apexi...we have had this chat before..."

have we ???

probably matey - i think i have spoken to all the peeps about all subjects - can never think who i have spoken to about what !!


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jetpilot

I will agree with Sadgoth as i have found out to my dissmay.
It would seem turbo, ecu, injectors etc is not enough, you really need that porting work to release good figures.

sadgoth

QUOTE]It would seem turbo, ecu, injectors etc is not enough, you really need that porting work to release good figures.[/QUOTE]

Although that is true, with all the work you have done so far (have you got the FMIC on yet btw) when you do decide to have the engine rebuilt and ported you should have an absolute beast of a car, whereas I\'m going the other way, my mods need to grow into the engine so to speak! Tim was telling me yesterday I need to get an HKS T51 KAI to really get the best out of my engine :eek:
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

jetpilot

Front mount not on yet, soon i hope. But i have had the exhaust changed from twin exit to single 3" from turbo back, which seems to have helped. Just need the IC and then tunning again.

Peter Ball

Hi, Guys,

Nope, haven\'t sold the FC - yet (see post above) - partly because the deal that I thought I had to trade it in for something unmentionable  :D fell through.

I never got the dyno print-out for my car (along with various other things that I didn\'t get, like not getting certain items that were removed to carry out the mods refitted) but I\'m guessing around 320 BHP based on my G-tech thingy.  What I can say is that the car is a hoot to drive and gives a lot of higher-powered machinary something to think about :D.    

The only mods that I regret on my list are the Microtech ECU (who the hell develops an ECU set up to run a rotary engine then omits to provide a driver for the stepper motor in the MOP  :reallymad ) and the Bosch 1600 cc/min secondaries which (probably because of the step-up from the 550 cc/min primaries) gives a slight hesitation at around 3,000 rpm.  I am thinking about going over to an Apexi Power FC ECU (yes, you can run then on a FC3S, with an intermediate connector plug) and different injectors (a) so I can get my MOP working and (b) to try and reduce the secondary injector transition.

Oh and by the way, my mods including labour cost somewhere around £ 7,000 about 2 years ago  :eek

Best wishes

Peter

88GT-R

QuoteOriginally posted by sadgoth
QUOTE]It would seem turbo, ecu, injectors etc is not enough, you really need that porting work to release good figures.

Although that is true, with all the work you have done so far (have you got the FMIC on yet btw) when you do decide to have the engine rebuilt and ported you should have an absolute beast of a car, whereas I\'m going the other way, my mods need to grow into the engine so to speak! Tim was telling me yesterday I need to get an HKS T51 KAI to really get the best out of my engine :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

No, you need to get that pesky ecu sorted, then we can talk fancy snails and the like. RS05 is creeping up on us, and you\'re gonna have a chunk missing from your ass;)

sadgoth

microtech is going to be ordered later this week, incidentally, have you sorted your man out for the microtech for his FD?
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

88GT-R

Mark,
I will be flying over on Saturday, as i mentioned before and will give you a shout then. My man is still humping around getting your dollar. Hopefully not too long now.

John

brooksie

chaps .. anybody got any links etc for wheel offsets and the like for FC\'s ..

have been looking at some MS02\'s BUT the place thats selling is saying they\'re for FD\'s only ? .. im assuming this is an offset issue rather than a fitment issue as such

apologies .. im not a newbie to rotaries  .. just a newbie to FC\'s :D

88GT-R

Hi,
There are a couple of links on //www.rx7club.com Go to the 2nd Gen forum, and do a search. Loads of crap to siv through.
Sorry, but i don\'t remember the exact sites.

John