FC and FD owners?

[simingma]

I love my FC, i always want build a FC which is modded as my own style, that will probably cost 10k... do u guys think it is worth to do that? some mates just suggest me i should sell it in 2 years  or sooner and get another car, cause the FC is too old...but in my opinion, i wanna keep it, spend my time with her and keep working on it, FC is a very very special car to me, it is always worth to do if you really like the stuff..

Mark

[grinder]

if you have the cash - then spend what you like !

if you get a 400 BHP FC then thats a very rare car - most people seem to be getting FD imported with loads of BHP

i say keep the FC and "supe her up"

but each to their own really - the choice is yours

[Peter Ball]

I\'ve never driven a FD3S so this isn\'t really a \'comparison\'.  However, the difference between my FC3S Cabriolet (which had 50,000 miles when bought and about 78,000 miles by the time I had got most of my modifications done) was night and day - accepting that the Cabriolet is \'softer\' handling than the Coupe as stock.  

It now handles brilliantly (apart from - to my reckoning -still overassisted power steering - anyone know anybody who could rebuild the pump to give lower boost ?) and goes.  I tested a TVR Chimaera 400 recently (my next car ?) and the seat-of-the-pants acceleration wasn\'t that much more impressive than my car with the turbo wound up (I expect the Chimaera 500 to be a different story - I\'ll let you know sometime !).

Much as I like the shape of the FD3S, I was only ever interested in an open car (I understand the reasons why Mazda never considered this, i.e. weight and the MX5/Miata) but personally I would have loved it if they had made an open FD3S - and would probably buy one.

On the minus side, the FC3S has a somewhat dated 80\'s shape versus the FD3S (which still looks amazing IMHO).  On the plus side, the FC3S looks different and unusual.  Personally, I think the biggest minus is that most of the experts out there seem to hold the FC3S in low esteem and don\'t seem to want to do more than standard servicing on them.  For this reason, I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with mine (can\'t get the work done that I\'d like done) and thinking of getting shot of it and buying a Chimaera 500, as I don\'t have the time or inclination to work on the car myself.

Peter


‘Turboported’ 13B engine

Baffled sump/uprated oil pressure regulator

Bigger radiator (K2RD) with electric fan

3” downpipe and presilencer with 3” into 2 x 2.5” ‘Y’ pipe and tail pipes/silencers

Hybrid Garrett TO4 compressor/OEM Hitachi turbine

BIG Greddy FMIC

Denso 550 cc/min primaries with Bosch 1600 cc/min secondaries (latter far too big, as I have found out !)

Walboro uprated fuel pump

Microtech MT8 ECU (nice product â€" would have been even nicer if they’d bothered to make it so that it could run the RX-7 metering oil pump)

Greddy front strut tower brace/Cusco rear strut tower brace

Tokiko ‘Illumina’ top adjustable struts/Eibach ‘Pro-Sport’ lowered, progressive rate springs

Racing Beat uprated anti-roll (sway) bars front and rear with Racing Beat (front)/Mazdatrix (rear) links.

Uprated polyurethane bushes in all suspension arms

RH Alurad six spoke alloys, 8 x 17” with Yokohama A 520’s, 215/45Z17R (soon to be replaced with Toyo F1 Proxes).

[grinder]

we will have no mention of selling a FC to get a TVR - shhhessssh

[rotorhead666]

So have any of you guys ever driven a 12a Turbo?If you really want to be exclusive,they are much rarer than 13b\'s,(maybe 20b\'s,too?),mine has Tii injectors and a Microtech LT-8,a fun little car that i tried an experiment with the other day;i saw a new porsche thing make out to overtake at 40mph in a 40 zone,coming to an end of restriction.so i floored her,and this porsche was not getting any closer from 40 to 120,until i had to bottle when there was another car in front on the dual carriageway.Left me with a huge grin on my face,and definitely not bad for a 19 year old car!It\'s not just you 2nd and 3rd genners who can have fun,you know!!!Just ask Tim RX.

[Peter Ball]

If I could find someone more interested in working on my car to my admittedly very high standards (which are NOT, I would stress, also cost-driven) rather than doing the minimum amount of work to a not particularly great (in fact once pretty poor) standard PLUS in one case which shall remain anonymous, charging me a wallet-emptying sum :eek for the \'privilege\'  then I might be feeling less inclined to sell my car than I do presently.  

Anyway, you can all have a jolly good laugh at me over on \'Pistonheads\' if I do go ahead and sell the Little White Horror (printable version of what I call it) defect to pistons and buy a TVR Chim or Griff 5L jobby that then promptly falls to bits at even more horrendous cost than the Japanese Jellymould.  

Best wishes

Pete

[88GT-R]

If you need a hand, give me a shout.

John
88 GT-R

[eddicla]

Had a quite good FC when I bought my FD about 3 yrs ago. Couldn\'t give the FC away, which is what I would call selling for less than £500, so It had been parked up since with the occasional start and drive up and down the access road behind the house.
 
Two speeding fines later and the need to sort out scrapes on alloys and numerous parking dinks on the FD, I have spent some time getting the old FC back on the road. It was satisfying to see how the car reponded to basic sevicing of the brakes, cooling system and some minor body work.

I\'d forgotten how the egi engine buzzes up to the beep so smoothly and the handling is so surefooted and predictable. The pedals are better placed for heel and toeing than the FD, which I love doing more often to stay in the power band. The egi is easier to live with i.e. much lighter steering, smoother power delivery, cruise control and sunroof. I am more obsessed with getting it even better after every drive. New speakers in the back mean that I am also rediscovering all the music I have on casset tapes that never gets played because of CD\'s. Classic car insurance of £340 fully comp also takes some of the strain of owning two cars.

With around 20K on the rebuilt engine prior to my buying the FD and a limitless supply of cassett,s I am not missing my FD and can take my time to get it looking really good. In the meantime I am enjoying my egi retro rotary rocket immensly.

[dazcol]

How Do Dude

I am the proud owner of a RX7 Twin turbo Efini on a J plate and i don\'t know the engine type Is it an RS or RB and hw do i tell the differance and what is the differance?

The next Question is obvious Were can i get HKS performance parts @ good prices.

What is Good and what is not ?:cool

What is the differance between FD & FC please put my mind at rest

Cheers DAZER

[grinder]

the FD is the curvy one - from 1993 on wards

the FC is the old squarish one ( like a porcshe 924 & 944 ) - this ran from about 86 to 92

the FB is a first gen - errr not sure of the years

and the rx8 is an FE ( if i remember correctly )

best places for stuff for you is af WGT in northwich - top bloke Pip

and if you are based in manchester you can come to the north west meets

[sadgoth]

the engine type will be a 13b REW as that is the block for all of the FD3S (3rd generation) cars

type R, RS, RB, etc is related to the model not specifically the engine.

[brooksie]

sorry to drag up an old thread .. tis just that im currently selling my FD and going over to an FC ...

building a Drift spec nutter jobby

very interesting reading tho ... thanks !!

Steve

[t2rew]

well as you\'ve got it back up ill put my 2p in.

i did go the root of spending a fortune ( more than a nice modded import fd ) and im well impressed with my old bucket.

just done the mazdaspeed nylon bushes and they make a big diferance to the feeling of the car. gone from jelly on wheels to f1 spec:D
that is with very tired rear shocks.

it is now very fast and give\'s me a big grin when i wind it up.

i have never driven a fd but i have had a few modded but not nesacerily fast cars. the fastest thing i have driven was a 450bhp 996 porsche, that was very very good but do you know what. i recon i could beet it in the fc and have more driver involvment at the same time. ie MORE FUN

im still not even at the boost i want to run. want 14psi. running 6psi

what is good about the fc is the look on the guys face in his 90000 pound car as my 500 quid banger leaves him in a wake of petrol vapor :rollin :rollin

[jetpilot]

Grinder dude.

Please please tell me where i can spend £5k for 600 - 800 bhp on my FC, pretty please.:rollin
 
I have gone from FD to FC, mainly due to fact of cost as mentioned in previous posts, also becuase i feel the FD is getting to popular, when i first started looking for an FD, just over a year ago there was like 1 maybe 2 on ebay and maybe 5 in autotrader, now we have loads around.

The driving of both is very different but i think a well sorted FC, will be a match for an FD, the FC does feel bulkier and not as nimble but still think the handing is good on an FC.

Performance wise, well similar engine so tunning the same as FD.

[grinder]

yeah looking back on this thread - maybe i was a bit out with my figures

im sure 5K could get you a very fast car though

speak to 88GTR - his is very nice - and i reckon that you could do that for under 5K ( unless you need a rebuild in the price ! )