hi there and oops think I have bought a lemon

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a.tapos

Quote from: 123tom123tom;801810done deal mate that is very sporting of you:)
 
do you want my address through here
 
 
regards tom

 
send me a email to a.m.t@hotmail.co.uk and ill post it
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clive

Sorry to see you having problems, but real pleased to see  your now going forward and happy to see the guys on here helping you like they are.

Sounds like the stock ECU and a boost gauge in psi is going to tell you most of what your going to need to know,

BTW if it starts cold and hot with no water noises going on I would say there\'s not much wrong with this car which means it\'s not a lemon :Thumbs-up.
All the best Clive

Wombat-007

Quote from: 123tom123tom;801812I also took the car on a long run today to try and figure out what is happening, I found if I ease the power on instead of trying to WOT, I can manage to get the 2nd turbo to come on line I think with out any spluttering back firing and all that crap. As soon as I WOT the car though it is the same old story.
 
Took the plugs out today leading plugs where really sooted up trailing plugs weren\'t that bad, I cleaned them up anway.. no sign of oil on them though.
 
I AM LOST :confused::confused::confused:

Ignition breakdown? Leading coil buggered??

123tom123tom

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Different theory completely hear lads and a bit of a stabb in the dark?
 
What would cause servere over fueling?
 
I have now noticed if i start the car from cold no smoke at all, as soon as you blib the throttle clouds of smoke...
 
IMPORTANT notice, the smoke now is white in colour, smells of fuel and hurts your eyes lol, sound stupid but thought i would try to be as clear as possible.
 
The afr gauge reads really rich on WOT and that is when the back firing and stumbling accours. Boost wise it shoots to about 1bar upto 4000 rpm then drops off due to the back firing etc.
 
I know these cars dont do much MPG but I have been driving steady and hard (trying to figure the car out) and to £50 of 99 ron tesco fuel it did 100km not even 60 miles..... there has got to be something wrong there???
 
Question is I suppose what could cause servere over fueling... the car has full decat exhaust????
 
cheers agin lads and sorry to be a complete pain, would love just to drive the car with no problems at least once :Laugh
 
forgot wat is the wire just above the trailing spark plug front rotor, litrally 10mm away just above

123tom123tom

Quote from: clive;801816Sorry to see you having problems, but real pleased to see your now going forward and happy to see the guys on here helping you like they are.
 
Sounds like the stock ECU and a boost gauge in psi is going to tell you most of what your going to need to know,
 
BTW if it starts cold and hot with no water noises going on I would say there\'s not much wrong with this car which means it\'s not a lemon :Thumbs-up.

cheers, great club and a great set of lads... I have been on some forums (supra) being one of them and there sometimes very sarcastic and not helpful in the slightest

HaywardRotary

Is the Map sensor on the firewall near the throttle body connected or has the pipe come off?
I think it might be a good idea to take it to someone as the problem might be something easy to fix having heard all you have said so far.
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123tom123tom

Quote from: HaywardRotary;801912Is the Map sensor on the firewall near the throttle body connected or has the pipe come off?
I think it might be a good idea to take it to someone as the problem might be something easy to fix having heard all you have said so far.


SOMETHING WEIRD HAS HAPPENED!!!  the car has fixed itself in regards to the 2nd turbo not working and the juddering/back fires at high revs..

For the first time the 2nd turbo clearly comes in and the car effortlessly accelerates through the rev range right through to 7500-8000..... took it for a run and held the revs at 4500 in 3rd heard a woosh of air and hey presto it started to work????? was something stuck shut/closed I don\'t know.

Still have the problem of oil burning though now the second turbo is kicking in. It is when ever I pull up to a junction it clouds out the exhaust still think it is the first /second turbo seals leaking.

Looked under the car there seems to be a bit of oil round the turbo area like the oil drain for the turbo???

regards tom :)

123tom123tom

Quote from: 123tom123tom;801969SOMETHING WEIRD HAS HAPPENED!!!  the car has fixed itself in regards to the 2nd turbo not working and the juddering/back fires at high revs..

For the first time the 2nd turbo clearly comes in and the car effortlessly accelerates through the rev range right through to 7500-8000..... took it for a run and held the revs at 4500 in 3rd heard a woosh of air and hey presto it started to work????? was something stuck shut/closed I don\'t know.

Still have the problem of oil burning though now the second turbo is kicking in. It is when ever I pull up to a junction it clouds out the exhaust still think it is the first /second turbo seals leaking.

Looked under the car there seems to be a bit of oil round the turbo area like the oil drain for the turbo???

regards tom :)

think I am going to bite the bullet and buy a set of turbos??? will all year fd3s fit mine 92 onwards

shaunwil

While its in bits it could be a case of rebuilding the rats nest and testing everything. Its a big job but may be half of the cause. It could be a sticky solenoid that is causing the intermittent turbo problem.

Although you need to swap the turbo out if the oil seals are goosed anyway.

Shaun
1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

123tom123tom

Quote from: shaunwil;802132While its in bits it could be a case of rebuilding the rats nest and testing everything. Its a big job but may be half of the cause. It could be a sticky solenoid that is causing the intermittent turbo problem.
 
Although you need to swap the turbo out if the oil seals are goosed anyway.
 
Shaun

 
still guessing at the turbo oil seals??? just the blue smike only seems to come after the car has been drove? I can  start the car from cold and there will be no smoke at all, until the turbo\'s have been brought on line by driving, then blue smoke will appear.
 
Another quick one here, are the turbo\'s oil and water cooled on these or just oil
 
regards tom

shaunwil

Looking in the workshop manual they are both water and oil cooled !

Shaun
1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

123tom123tom

Quote from: shaunwil;802152Looking in the workshop manual they are both water and oil cooled !
 
Shaun

that would explain then some time the clouds of white smoke aswell not just the blue??? if one or two turbo seals have failed!!
 
am going to start and strip the thing down tomorrow, see what we come up with... can i get tub\'s off with removing engine
 
:D

123tom123tom

Quote from: a.tapos;801717how abut i send you my standard ecu for free to try and you can send it back if its no good,or buy it if you want it,my knightsport is pre programmed not mappable

 
hi there, just wondering if you have sent the ecu, if so I can have the misses watch out for it
 
regards tom :)

shaunwil

Quote from: 123tom123tom;802172that would explain then some time the clouds of white smoke aswell not just the blue??? if one or two turbo seals have failed!!
 
am going to start and strip the thing down tomorrow, see what we come up with... can i get tub\'s off with removing engine
 
:D

You can get it off without having to take the engine out but its a big job. Have you got a copy of the workshop manual ?

Shaun
1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

123tom123tom

Quote from: shaunwil;802198You can get it off without having to take the engine out but its a big job. Have you got a copy of the workshop manual ?

Shaun

no copy of manual??  is it that bad lol :)