Upsetting

[jetpilot]

I am sure a few are aware of the recent events during our commemoration of our valiant soldiers who gave their lives so this country could be free, during varying wars but mainly WW1 & WW2, ironically enough stopping the man responsible for the biggest religious genocide in recent years. Who knows what this country would be like now had he won his fight!

If your not sure what i am talking about check here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8126357/Muslims-clash-with-police-after-burning-poppy-in-anti-Armistice-Day-protest.html

Banners with "british soldiers burn in hell" amongst others were banded about!

Let alone the double standards that are involved in this protest (i.e what would happen if a christian did that in a muslim country) i am absolutely stunned that any of these protesters are allowed to remain in this country, british born or not!

They are more than happy to live here in the associated freedom that this country brings, freedom that is bought about by these very soldiers they condemn and in my view, whilst ever it is seen that these actions are without penalty this country opens itself up to an increasing "mass" of extremists who know they can do what they like!

I am aware its a minority before anyone flames me, but that minority must be stamped out before it becomes a majority!

Each and everyone of those protesters should be immediately deported (british or not) to a country where there Muslim law rules which they support, so they can sit their in fear and suppression, possibly told to fight for their cause. Not in their comfy, heated house where they have the freedom to do as they please!

This is where it all gets messed up, some guy in America threatens to burn the Koran and there is international up roar. But Muslims just get on and do what they what with little reprieve!

A friend of mine who fought in Afghanistan and lost friends over there was, well, en raged, is it any wonder their is racial hatred??

[Will66]

It\'s an unfortunate product of the freedom of expression that we enjoy in this country.  That\'s not to say it\'s a massive abuse of this privilege and if they feel this way they should reconsider where they live.  They really shouldn\'t be surprised by counter protests and hatred towards them.

[BlitzBoy]

At the end of day like you said we live in a Democracy and we have freedom of speech.
So things like this will happen, like what was going on in America with the attempted burning of the Koran, majority of people wont like it but this is the price you pay for freedom.

Like the Student protest when they started burning placards, we are allowed to protest, this why there was a second World war so we keep are rights to air our views and beliefs.

But I do think this group of Poppy burners were breaking the law with incitement to violence the timing and placing of the protest, the Police should have moved them on or arrested them.

[Will66]

I think it could well fall under the incitement to racial hatred laws.

[1990_fc3s_t2]

No flames from me, It would of been nice to see a bus load of soldiers turn up and muller each and every one.
It totally baffles me how this country works. Sholuld be people making the lifes of these scumbags a complete misery...but no no:confused:
:mad:

[jetpilot]

At the end of day like you said we live in a Democracy and we have freedom of speech.
So things like this will happen, like what was going on in America with the attempted burning of the Koran, majority of people wont like it but this is the price you pay for freedom.

Like the Student protest when they started burning placards, we are allowed to protest, this why there was a second World war so we keep are rights to air our views and beliefs.

But I do think this group of Poppy burners were breaking the law with incitement to violence the timing and placing of the protest, the Police should have moved them on or arrested them.

Fair comment, but if we say anything against them, they are the first to complain. You cant have double standards, but we do!

Whichever way you look at it, this is unacceptable and should not be tolerated!

[TiddlesRX7]

Whichever way you look at it, this is unacceptable and should not be tolerated!

Completely agree. Something has to be done. But what? And by who? Lets face it there is no way the Government will go anywhere near the issue.

[gsb876]

Have some discussions about this on FB, my opinion is that the police should be given more powers to deal with such concerns. If the group was causing harassment, which it was, they should have been told to move on or arrested until the memorials were over.

Looking into the threads on FB there were racists comments from all sides and it sadly shows that bigotry will always exist, in the wider world i think the thoughts of peace are lost as it will never happen. Sad but true.

As for the small group of "fanatics" they should be identified and then their backgrounds looked into, since they hate the country so much any and all benefits must be stopped for them, and any help provided should be rescinded.

[turbo boy]

Give it a few more years and there`ll be a Berlin style wall dividing "us" from English hating infestation.

[Nik da Greek]

I will always argue the free right of expression because I think that\'s a fundamental part of what makes our country great and a model of freedom for the world to envy. But then, sometimes you have to think that some people just need to have the living fduk kicked out of them :mad:

[Mir]

I totally agree that our soldiers should be respected for what they have done for this country. It is because of our soldiers that we sleep without any fear at night and we have the confidence in doing things freely in our country. It is my personal opinion that they (the soldiers) have experienced this hatred towards them due the wrong and right (there are convincing arguments on each side) decisions of the Politicians. I think these demonstrators should go and "peacefully" protest in front of the parliament not before our beloved soldiers. I don\'t agree with the poppy burning scene. It is completely unacceptable.

As mentioned above, we live in a free country which is not only independent but also guarantees human rights along with the freedom of expression. It is because of the Freedom of Expression that those people demonstrated the way they did (completely unacceptable manner) and also its a product of Freedom of expression that a Racially motivated Political Party (BNP) is allowed to campaign against non white British people.... Sometime we all have to pay price for the freedom of expression

I don\'t support any form of actions which hurts the human feelings

Regards

[neil_jdmr]

Again i agree with Nik that i love this country for its envious democracy but i just cannot see that this sort of racism would be tolerated ten/twenty years ago. Democracy and freedom of speech is one thing but racism is a punishable offence in this country and if what i saw in the papers is not racial incitement then i clearly dont understand the laws well enough.
 
If i went out into Newcastle city centre tomorrow with big banners screaming KILL MUSLIM EXTREMISTS then i expect i would be banged up sharpish.
 
Human right activists have ruined this country imo and make a pretty penny doing so!!!.

[Will66]

What I find odd is that no one turned up to object to the protest.  Possibly because they had more decency than to desecrate the memories of the Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen that took the decision to defend our freedom and put their life on the line to ensure that this country is a safe place where you can express your opinions, legitimately protest and live their life free from persecution.

It was George Orwell who said "Good men sleep soundly in their beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."  Good people need to remember that!

[pdtaylor18]

Having fought in Gulf War 1 and 2 and have continued to be at the front line since I joined the military over 22 years ago I find it so utterly disgusting that anyone or any group of people should be allowed to burn the poppy that symbolized so many courageous and valiant military personnel that gave their lives during the war years. What I and many others have experienced is just a tiny fraction in relation to what they went through to give this Country its freedom and to have a democracy that enables every single person to express a freedom of speech and respected human rights.  That very freedom is what makes Great Britain so very \'Great\' and must continue to be so but the line simply must be drawn when outrageous acts of incitement against our troops is clearly unacceptable and breaking the law.  The law has to change, to burn the poppy is like spitting in our all faces and should never have ever been allowed to happen in the first place and most definitely have led to convictions.  The changes this Country (and that of the World) has gone through over the past decade in our cultural society is immense but we must remain resolute in maintaining our human rights but the law must come down hard on those that continue to abuse and incite racial hatred in any form.

[jetpilot]

Having fought in Gulf War 1 and 2 and have continued to be at the front line since I joined the military over 22 years ago I find it so utterly disgusting that anyone or any group of people should be allowed to burn the poppy that symbolized so many courageous and valiant military personnel that gave their lives during the war years. What I and many others have experienced is just a tiny fraction in relation to what they went through to give this Country its freedom and to have a democracy that enables every single person to express a freedom of speech and respected human rights.  That very freedom is what makes Great Britain so very \'Great\' and must continue to be so but the line simply must be drawn when outrageous acts of incitement against our troops is clearly unacceptable and breaking the law.  The law has to change, to burn the poppy is like spitting in our all faces and should never have ever been allowed to happen in the first place and most definitely have led to convictions.  The changes this Country (and that of the World) has gone through over the past decade in our cultural society is immense but we must remain resolute in maintaining our human rights but the law must come down hard on those that continue to abuse and incite racial hatred in any form.

But the law doesnt come down hard on anyone it would seem! And to be frank, i wouldnt want to see tax payers monies going towards the upkeep of said minorities in prison!

I think the big issue for me is, if you cant respect this countries traditions, you simply shouldnt be here!

Perhaps these muslim extremists would have preferred Hitler to have won, with his outrageous attitude towards religions it wouldnt surprise me if Muslim would have been next on his list! Trouble is those thick tw*ts dont even realise that!