Half Bridge Turbo Suggestions

Started by AshRX, May 19, 2008, 11:44:27 AM

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shaunwil

1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

AshRX

mmmm Tial housing

Thats what i need

BlitzBoy

yeah Shaun that looks well plush
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

AshRX

No its not lol

Just spoke to Turbo Dynamics and the biggest hotside Tial do is a 1.01....looks like its gonn ahave to be T4 flange time

silverrexman

Quote from: mx1311;500906thats the exact son of a gun ive just brought :)

colum


oh and steve, i aint forgot about your stuff, he\'s not picking up the phone at the moment dude :)

No problemo:cheers

BlitzBoy

Quote from: AshRX;500917No its not lol

Just spoke to Turbo Dynamics and the biggest hotside Tial do is a 1.01....looks like its gonn ahave to be T4 flange time

remember an 1.00 AR on a T04Z say is different then a 1.00 AR on a Gt42, the 1.00 AR on a GT42R is much bigger
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

AshRX

yep but think a 1.0 on mine is getting too hot for some reason and gettting to much back pressure on the hot side. Managed to get one for a very good price with 1.15 or 1.28 rear housing and they might be able to make the housing for inlet V Band so all good

BlitzBoy

Good diagram here
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

BlitzBoy

so if went for a proper gt42 instead of the hybrid you have, I reckon the 1.0 you have at the mo would be smaller then the 1.0 that comes with GT42.
I would measure the width of your current exhaust housing and ask TD for the width of the exhaust housing that comes with the one they are selling.
the tial vband connection would be cool
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

AshRX

good plan Batman.

Its coming off tonight so ill measure then. Just have to make sure if i cant get the Tial hosuing that the T4 adaptor works

shaunwil

Quote from: BlitzBoy;500916yeah Shaun that looks well plush

Thats my next turbo upgrade after this :Giggle Although then the FB gets the FD\'s engine and turbo :3gears-lh

Shaun
1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

antnicuk

as mark says, the a/r doesnt mean anything on its own.   the rest of the turbo size has an influence as a/r isnt a size its a ratio.  The 20b is running a 0.96 exhaust on a gt45 and making 470 rwhp at 0.8 bar with no sign of heat beeing an issue.

Some of the \'tuners\' on here will tell you that the garret turbo\'s cant take the heat on high hp applications, especially the GT range.

A split diaphram in the w/g would seriously effect the lag you had, so unless you look at old graphs from when it was working properly or drive it with a fixed w/g you wont get an accurate idea.  

There is somthing to be said about learning from other mistakes.  There are a couple of half bridges running in this country that have both run consistently above 500 rwhp with no issues and they are using T51\'s.  That would be my choice as you can pretty much be certain of the results    :)
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


mx1311

you could always go for ye old truck t88 34d

seems to be holding good for 1.4+ on willdays car.

colum

AshRX

yeah i was looking at the GK one.

Lets just say i took the turbo apart last night and now its in the bin

BlitzBoy

post pics of the failed turbo my man be interesting look at
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark