‘Re-iterating what MRC is all about…’

[oldone]

Shaun and Gareth,your input is brilliant,your views are those of real \'menschen\',..........but somewhere the line had to be drawn.There are also other factors which led to the decision of restricting non members.After the ripples have subsided,I am positive all will return to normal.The club will grow even more.
If it does not,I will put my hand up and say I have voted wrong.

[Lisa]

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For a club that we are trying to promote why arent we listed in J-Tuners club section ?!!?

Gareth

Sorry Gareth,

Top middle, page 113 issue 10 March 2006 Jtuner, Mazdarotaryclub  :yes

[shaunwil]

I hope the bickering will subside and hopefully it will make the club stronger without degrading the forum.

After looking on other sites this is by far the friendliest, please we don\'t want to loose that at any cost.

We have to grow and show what the real potential of the rotary actually is !

Shaun

[gmogle]

Sorry Gareth,

Top middle, page 113 issue 10 March 2006 Jtuner, Mazdarotaryclub  :yes

Ah, apologies Lisa, its under L so thats why I didnt see it.

Whats a \'menschen\' ? Is it good or bad lol

Gareth

[Martiny]

I am probably going to get flamed, but I think we have the balance correct at the moment of what non-members can and cant do. Clive has a good atiitude to not turn anyone away from a club meet, but I really think this ought to extend to the forum as well. Any attempt to bully or manipulate someone to join is going to turn people away, I\'m afraid.

The club made the forum, but I really think that the forum is the best way to get people to join the club. I think if we restrict the forum any more, we start restricting our potential to get members to join.

Clive forgot to mention another benefit of being a member, you get the Mazda magazine, which would nearly cost you £25 a year anyway.

There, I had my say, (Oldone, I hope I voted wrong !).

non members, please dont be discouraged, we NEED you on the forum. Of course it would be nice if you joined, if you wanted to.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))

[clive]

I am probably going to get flamed, but I think we have the balance correct at the moment of what non-members can and cant do. Clive has a good atiitude to not turn anyone away from a club meet, but I really think this ought to extend to the forum as well. Any attempt to bully or manipulate someone to join is going to turn people away, I\'m afraid.

The club made the forum, but I really think that the forum is the best way to get people to join the club. I think if we restrict the forum any more, we start restricting our potential to get members to join.

Clive forgot to mention another benefit of being a member, you get the Mazda magazine, which would nearly cost you £25 a year anyway.

There, I had my say, (Oldone, I hope I voted wrong !).

non members, please dont be discouraged, we NEED you on the forum. Of course it would be nice if you joined, if you wanted to.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))

Well said that man, :god  

[Jodypamplin]

Let me first say that my experience with MRC has been completely positive, as a non-member, and I have benefitted from the experience and knowledge of others and in turn attempted to provide help to others as best I can. I have not owned my rx7 long, and unfortunately will be selling in the not too distant future. Tbh I have never wanted to pay the membership fees as I tend only to use the forum, but I appreciate that to help things tick over etc fees are required which is why this situation has come about. I also see the benefit of being a member for those of you who are longer term rx7 owners with regard to insurance, good offers on parts etc. I am a member of FDUK and also other car forums where there is no requirement to pay fees, especially £25, which in essence I would be paying only to post up threads etc on the forum. I have read previous posters comments about £25 being "not much" but for those of us who use the forum more over than the other benefits of the club, and I assume there are a fair number of people who do this, it seems pretty steep. I am sorry to see that things have come to this, but I for one will not be paying the membership so that I can post up new threads. At this point it seems too pressured and not in keeping with the supposed friendly approach that most MRC members are proud to stand by. Good luck for the future and I hope the club does continue to grow despite this apparent mexican stand off that has recently developed. Regards,

[satch]

Hi,
I just want it to be known that at the time of writing my first comment aimed at rx7veilside,i was unaware of the sh*t he had got from people on the afr readings thread he had started.
I don\'t agree at all with the treatment he received for asking an innocent question,i personally don\'t have any problem with members/non-members asking for or giving info on any subject,and would never want anyone to feel bullied into doing something they didn\'t want to do such as joining this club.
At the time,i felt(rightly or wrongly) that it was yet another whinge about how the forum should be run,made by someone that had not paid for the right to do so,but i guess after what had been directed at him earlier,i would have felt like saying something similar! :yes

Ultimately,i feel as a relative newcomer to this scene that,maybe who am i to judge how others choose to use this club,it was here a long time before i joined and no doubt will still be here long after i have gone (from rotarys i mean..although who knows! )

As many have said before me...lifes too short! :cheers

Peace :InLove


Paul

[sadgoth]

I fully understand the stance that is being taken by e club, I for one was a member, am not now, mainly because I\'m lazy and never got round to renewing (over a year has passed now!) - also I have been able to do the same things I did as a member, the matter of £25 is irrelevant as far as I\'m concerned as is the "what do I get out of it" mentality, I will be renewing my membership once I have my paypal account working again for no other reason than I feel part of the club, but I am currently not a paying member. Being part of a club is what this is all about, the savings that being a club member can get you are a bonus. We are all part of the rotary scene and we have all benefitted from MRC, if no-one paid for it, MRC would disappear, that would be a real shame, the more paying members the club has, the more it can offer its members, the less members the less the club can do. Yes I know - so why didn\'t I renew sooner? Lazy, forgot, skint when I remembered, lazy again! NO REAL EXCUSES!

I\'ll be renewing in the next week or so.....

[satch]

I fully understand the stance that is being taken by e club, I for one was a member, am not now, mainly because I\'m lazy and never got round to renewing (over a year has passed now!) - also I have been able to do the same things I did as a member, the matter of £25 is irrelevant as far as I\'m concerned as is the "what do I get out of it" mentality, I will be renewing my membership once I have my paypal account working again for no other reason than I feel part of the club, but I am currently not a paying member. Being part of a club is what this is all about, the savings that being a club member can get you are a bonus. We are all part of the rotary scene and we have all benefitted from MRC, if no-one paid for it, MRC would disappear, that would be a real shame, the more paying members the club has, the more it can offer its members, the less members the less the club can do. Yes I know - so why didn\'t I renew sooner? Lazy, forgot, skint when I remembered, lazy again! NO REAL EXCUSES!

I\'ll be renewing in the next week or so.....

Good for you mate! :cheers (and well said by the way)

[rx7veilside]

Well all i have to say is i enjoy coming on the forums/i like to give advice and help when i can/i like to come to the shows when i can (only japfest and trax last year due work).it was never a case of whats in it for me it really is a case of the forum and club really are 2 different things.i like a variety of cars and variety of forums as different things appeal to different people.I understand that people want a club and that is fine but for me its more about asking and offering advice and engaging in what is basically conversation about something we all enjoy.As i stated before i belong to about 10 other forums and like browsing them as well and if poss offer advice or ask questions on there.I was at no stage trying to give my opinion on how the club should be run and was surprised at the response to what was a tech question that would have benefitted plenty of people as well as myself.I hope this episode does not push people away from the forum or joining for those that want to..i shall continue as allways but will have to look elsewhere for any answers and feel the forum will loose its content with only members starting any threads.

[zevans]

Could someone point me to the thread discussing only members starting new threads? Or was it discussed purely at AGM? (I\'ve missed all this, been off sunning meself with all the other menschen in Cape Town)

[Turbotez]

i really feel in 2 minds about this. I agree with both sides, If you went to a gym, joined up for membership then found that people were using it for free, u would be upset. but at the same time, most peeps will be a non member for an amount of time before coughing up to be a member, i think what has/is being done may have to experimental for a while, if it doesnt work then we tried and we will have to think of another way to encourage non members to join this wonderful club.

[John Yorke]

Maybe the way forward for you members is to treat this as a forum, you will still have your club, the problem here is the mixing up club / forum thing.

I think you will be losing more than you will be gaining by this exclusion, if the club had an exclusive part [to discuss \'club\' busines] you would maintain that status and keep your open forum, you could have your \'club\' meets / events and charge non members if they wished to attend.

[robedwards99]

I must admit that if I had been unable to ask a few questions on here before I purchased the FD I may not of gone through with it, yet I did actually join up before I got the car.

Having said that there is a huge wealth of information on here that is searchable by everyone (I think!) and most typical questions have been answered already if you are prepared to dig for them.