‘Re-iterating what MRC is all about…’

[satch]

I\'m not on some sort of witch hunt here,i certainly don\'t agree with other members alienating non members at all,that\'s not my intention (or point).Have i not got a point then?,Am i wrong for suggesting that people contribute (financially) towards this club??
All i was saying was,fairs fair,we\'ve all gained something from this club,lets give something back(pretty please :InLove )

[bnaellis]

I\'m not on some sort of witch hunt here,i certainly don\'t agree with other members alienating non members at all,that\'s not my intention (or point).Have i not got a point then?,Am i wrong for suggesting that people contribute (financially) towards this club??
All i was saying was,fairs fair,we\'ve all gained something from this club,lets give something back(pretty please :InLove )

Satch I think you misinterpreted some of things I said they were in no shape or form directed at you.

[satch]

Satch I think you misinterpreted some of things I said they were in no shape or form directed at you.

Ok,that\'s cool :cheers

[Fish]

I recently posted on the forum looking for some help and advice and got almost no interest ? Maybe it was just bad luck or was it because I am a non member ?

Dont think it was anything personal or directed to being a member or not. The forum can sometimes be a little hit or miss.

Fish

[2qk4u]

I hope it was only bad luck because I am a real fan of owners sites/clubs,I think they are great...

[travellinbob]

I recently became a member of the club after making roughly 800 odd posts. Alot of great info has been learned by myself from people helping out. I never felt intimidated or excluded for being a non-member which I am greatfull for. I have also made some good friends who are both helpfull and dependable. In fact most of my morris minor/rotory project has come from tis site. In particular the for sale department. But then for me new parts for the car are sometimes nothing without free and helpfull advice to go with them.
 Due to me living in a bit of a remote place I doubt if I will be able to go to many club events which is a shame. But I do love reading about them and seeing the photos of which cars turned up.(almost a 2nd best to being there).
 I am not too sure limiting certain areas is such a good idea, such as new posts but I do fully realise the nececity to generate income to fund this forum abd the clubs off computer activities. And for what it is worth for all the help I have recieved £25 is bloody cheap.
 cheers, Michael.

[clive]

I hope it was only bad luck because I am a real fan of owners sites/clubs,I think they are great...

 I would like to think that the question that you asked was not based on any type of non-member prejudice because I can certainly say that if I would have seen it and been able to answer I would have.

We unfortunately cant give you "overseas" membership because you live in Ireland because we have quite a few paid up members from Ireland and always have had, the overseas thing is really intended for people a little more distant, sorry.

I am also sorry to see that Mr rx7veilside is not happy as he knows he has always been welcomed at our events in the past.

I find it interesting and accurate about Brian\'s perception of the club\'s operation and he knows from the past that I personally do not care if people join or not because I want people to join because they want to rather than feel they have to.

Glenn and myself views and feeling on this emotive subject have never altered since day one till now, and have chosen to try and make this club as attractive as we can for members so that non-members will want to join, however we are also elected to the positions we hold within the club and must as best as we can honour our paying members wishes.

I will however reiterate that the day I turn a Mazda rotary away from an event because the owner is a non member is the day I  resign !  

Hopefully this is now an end to this debate. :cheers

[2qk4u]

So if it changes that only paid up members may start posts,I will have to pay just to post ?

[iaint]

I hope it was only bad luck because I am a real fan of owners sites/clubs,I think they are great...

It\'s likely the case that noone with the right knowledge read the post - we don\'t all read all the posts, probably more true for others with real knowledge who are buys folks!

I think the attitude of some members to non members is the issue.

You\'re right Brian and, whether they have a point or not, it\'s not right to continually lambast someone for posting just because they\'re not a member.  :spank  

Iain

[oldone]

It was mentioned by the thread starter that this is a CLUB first and then a FORUM....In my limited experience of holding club membership from i.e.Golf Clubs,Shooting Clubs,Motor Racing Clubs,Motor Vehicle Owners Clubs,Gyms and so forth......ALL the clubs catered for MEMBERS and NON MEMBERS,MEMBERS had unlimited access to all facilities and NON MEMBERS had restricted access to facilities.The reason being is that when you become a MEMBER of a club it is because YOU want to become a member.YOU want to be part of a small community\\congregation of people who share that same interests.MEMBERS are people who are enthusiastic about their club and the fellowship it offers because you go out of your way to be social with the other MEMBERS.It also becomes a pride issue to say you are part of a club.
NON MEMBERS do not share this as they are not committed to the club and come and go as they please,they will normaly drift in and drift out of a club knowing they do not have to be committed in any way,they also have no intentions of being committed.Free access is the thing.
I had numerous posts and got involved in the club at the ROLLING ROAD at REWORX,I then realised what a great club and cameraderie there existed.
I wanted to be known as a MAZDAROTARYCLUB.COM member,I wanted to be part of the club.I paid my membership fees.
In saying that,I am maybe very fortunate because I can get along with my MAZDA\'s repairs and servicing without the help of the club.The club is not a source of income for me as well.That is maybe tongue in cheek cos I have used the club....I am trying to make a point........I WANT TO BE PART OF A CLUB.........
So if the NON MEMBERS have not got this feeling to be part of the club,then so be it,it will be a loss if they stop posting and move along.BUT I would rather be part of a club with committed members,than a club where the NON MEMBERS jump up and down when they do not get there way.
Pay your fees and come along to the AGM and let your voice be heard !

Thank you for reading this post

Era  (oldone)
 :cheers

[alban1973]

:Hammer    HHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP...  wHY HAVE i BEEN DE-MEMBERISED........... i ONLY JOINED IN jANUARY 2006............................................................................ :Hammer

[John Yorke]

:Hammer    HHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP...  wHY HAVE i BEEN DE-MEMBERISED........... i ONLY JOINED IN jANUARY 2006............................................................................ :Hammer

Looks to me like you are a member...........best of luck.

[alban1973]

PPPPHHHUUU   i HAVE NOW BEEN RE-MEMBERIZED.. MANYTHANKS

[shaunwil]

I think part of the point of paying up the membership for the club has been lost by a hell of alot of people. This is the beginning of the 3rd year of membership i\'ve had and this club has been great. The membership helped me to get better insurance, it gave me money towards an IOM trackday and many other things.

I think people miss that the stronger the club gets, the more events that can be done during the year. The more the Rotary will be respected by other marks and we can have the same kind of amazing competition on the drag strips and tracks as in usa and aus. Its events like this that keep the passion high.

Ok, I would agree some people may have gone to far with non-members, but at the end of the day if people didn\'t pay for the club there wouldn\'t be a forum.

Its hard to see where all this is going for the club. We are all very friendly and extremly helpful when possible to whoever asks the questions. It something that can never be lost.

Ok, reducing the rights of non-members is a good primer for more people to join, as they should. However it still needs to be their decision or it will just cause petty bickering and degrade the forum.

Shaun

[gmogle]

I find it disappointing on this forum that recently there have been a large number of threads that have turned into a Member picking on Non Member situations and lets be honest its usually the same people that start it.

It doesnt help to show MRC as a friendly \'welcoming\' place. It seems also that Non Member threads seem to be answered only by Non Members.

I\'ve been a Non Payed Member of both Skyline club sites and not once have I ever been questioned or moaned at about being a Non Member, I am even attending a Track Day with their club with no issues from any of them.
I do agree that Non Members cars shouldnt be on MRC stands.

Now I would like to point out that I didnt join MRC because I was pressured to it or the members benefits, it was purely because I got a lot of advice and support from MRC when I was a Non Member so I thought I\'d like to give something back to the club.

This I am sure isnt the view of everyone and after all £25 isnt a lot of money.
But on the flipside there are plenty of Non Members out there that give valuable advice to both Non Members and Members and that is what will help keep the club/forum running. Maybe it would be worth running a report to see how many threads have been started by Non Members or how many Member threads have been answered by Non Members.

For a club that we are trying to promote why arent we listed in J-Tuners club section ?!!?

Lets face it there are always going to be people who dont want to be involved in a club but I dont feel we should make them any less welcome, after all we are all Rotary Fanatics and share the same passion !!!

Gareth