Terminal speed, target 100mph. Entry Rules.

[Brett]

CLARIFICATION.

Basically Turbo charged cars must run with standard engine internals, intercooler and turbo.  So aftermarket exhausts, filters, bov\'s, boost controllers, FCD, Fuel computer etc are allowed.  However the turbocharged cars are NOT allowed to run any kind of porting either on the inlet or on the exhaust.
 
 As stated in the rules above, this little comp is for the 2nd generation rx7 only, if we open it up to other versions of the rx7 (and the hybrids etc) then it will not be a very close competition.  I envisage most cars being within 2-3mph of each other and probably with bhp within 5% of each other.

 Grizzly, there is nothing stopping someone whacking the boost up and fitting some additional injectors, but bear in miind most of us mod our FC\'s on a shoe string so I doubt anyone will do that.  But if they do then fair play to them, but I dont think I\'d like to squeeze 20psi through a stock engine......

[Grizzly]

So what you are saying NO porting!! so any other mod like 2pc seals or Oiling mods are ok?

"but I dont think I\'d like to squeeze 20psi through a stock engine......"

But this is within the rules? (20psi was an example of course you would not need that to do the Job)

How would water Injection stand? Or Race fuel?

[grinder]

hummm seemed to have gained an interest of a few peeps here

so you thinking of running chris ??

[g11ary]

I Know. Borgue is running a FB tho.

Scott

This was started by FC enthusiasts, for FC\'s.
There arent many that run at R/Stock so just a bit of FC fun.
Borgue wont be running in the FC challenge, BUT
the pair of you could organise your own challenges.
Why dont you both have a FB & FD challenge.
Make some simple rules and post to see if you get any interest.
Then at R/Stock 3 more race entries can be made. The 1st, 2nd & 3rd gen challenge.
Last yr Scott you did have your own challenge, which FB & FC were not allowed in "the fastest stock FD"
Have fun with this, it could be a real laugh.

[grinder]

^ what he said

[Grizzly]

so you thinking of running chris ??

I think i will be bussy whith my Vert, but 100 doesn\'t seem a too unrealistic target. But even though you think its going to be close or a Buget thing if you get the right intrest you can get good power on a Stock engine and Turbo with water injection to compensate for the lack of IC.

I think it will be down to who has the best condition engine and Turbo running the most boost. O and a bit of Driver skill to get it off the line with those skinny wheels and maybe a bit of Research into tweeking stock engines.

Chris

[FD3SNuttah]

lets not be too competative lads. i dont know if my car is going to make it the whole 1/4 mile nevermind gettin a 100mph terminal!!

i wouldnt mind joining in on the fun tho, only to see what the 1/4 mile on my car is.

but expect the following mods

1. full stainless 3" exhaust - no cat!
2. FCD
3. stripped out car

[Grizzly]

Has anyone figured out what sort of time you would need to pull to do 100mph terminal? i\'m guessing v-low 14\'s high 13\'s. Does this sound about right?

[Brett]

Er...Stripped out cars are NOT allowed within the rules.
From the evidence I\'ve seen a 100mph TS has an ET anywhere from the Mid 13\'s upto the mid 14\'s.
 Water injection is allowed, however for those running Turbo charged cars:-

 CLARIFICATION

 All Turbo Charged cars must run with std engine internals and no porting of any kind.

 I know its going to take some time to sort out all the niggles and loopholes in the rules, however I\'m hoping that people will try to stay within the spirit of the rules and not exploit any loop holes created by my shocking levels of incompetence!

[grinder]

ha ha ha i think people are gonna try and find loads of loop holes to be honest matey

the biggest question i have is

"how many FC\'s will be at RSIII"

[Brett]

^LoL!

 \'Book them, they will come\'

[Grizzly]

I think its open to interpretation, There is a large margine between a Tuned (stock Turboe+engine) car and a Stocker. So i would say the Closest to 100mph terminal speed wins? then it makes it more fair and harder to compete as its not about who can make most power from a stock engine? Wouldn\'t that eliminate any loop holes?

[Grizzly]

If it is done like that the big boys can play too!!

[Brett]

TBH (This is just me, if the general consensus is to let the \'big boy\'s\' play with us then so be it) I dont want the Big Boys coming over here, taking my lunch money etc.  If I have.had a car thats capable of doing 12.5sec qtrs with a TS of 120+ then all I have to do is watch the speedo and peg my accel at the 100mph point. I\'ve won.  Doesnt seem fair to include that kind of car against the ones that will struggle to make 100mph in the first place.

[zevans]

Er...Stripped out cars are NOT allowed within the rules.

Seems a bit silly to me - stripping a car is definitely a low-cost option and exactly what you SHOULD be doing for 1/4 miles!

I should start a thread for RS-III and try and drum up a bit of Renesis business really...