Single turbo?

[Ed_RX7parts]

the thing to do is ask people who know not people who think they know and you\'ll be fine.

not having a dig at anyone....its just time after time i see noobs asking experienced people their opinions then someone chimes in with internet nonsense..and the advice given is totally ignored.

youll find alot of experienced people on here so ask loads of questions and use the search facility

what are your goals for the car?

[JayDee]

Porting doesn\'t cost much more from a street port to a bridge. I would say a hundred or so. Porting doesn\'t take that long or its not that hard but its knowing what to do that you pay for.

Hmmmm!!!

[Grant Monkhouse]

where on earth did you pluck that figure from grant?

i suppose its possible buying a used turbo kit and ebay crap....but you\'ll probably have to spend more sorting it out when it all goes pear shaped a few months down the line......

I said 2000 plus, your kit is 2200 and 2400, so I\'m not far off at that. Your stuff is brand new too Ed, I know someone that got at T51 Kai, manifold, wastegate and down pipe for £900 second hand.

Upgraded secondary injectors, FPR etc is ABOUT 750 if someone fits It for you.

than you need an intercooler and maybe a radiator, not necessary but I would change it. Lets say £600?

That\'s 2250;)

I\'m surprised no one has said to stay with the twin turbos due to the guy only wanted 400 ponies.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Porting doesn\'t cost much more from a street port to a bridge. I would say a hundred or so. Porting doesn\'t take that long or its not that hard but its knowing what to do that you pay for.

Hmmmm!!!

REW & Cosmo Street Port
1. 13B                 £ 650.00

REW & Cosmo Bridgeport
1. 13B                 £ 850.00

Taken from someone\'s website, over priced IMO, couple hundred difference like I said. I\'m not saying its easy Jay so don\'t take offence, it is just essentially drilling and then removing metal with a die grinder, or as some like to use a dremmel, lol.

[Grant Monkhouse]

the thing to do is ask people who know not people who think they know and you\'ll be fine.

not having a dig at anyone....its just time after time i see noobs asking experienced people their opinions then someone chimes in with internet nonsense..and the advice given is totally ignored.

youll find alot of experienced people on here so ask loads of questions and use the search facility

what are your goals for the car?

To say I don\'t know what I\'m talking about and my advice is Internet nonesense is taking the :censored::censored::censored::censored:. I know a lot of stuff not by looking in the Internet but by actually doing things and speaking to people who actually do these things in real life. My dad is an engineer, so are the majority of his friends. Some of my friends run their own drag car, consistent 8 seconds, of which one of them works for holsets turbo R&D department.

So my advice isn\'t a load of :censored::censored::censored::censored:e, and its not as if I\'m telling it is the only advice to listen too because everyone else knows nothing is it?:rolleyes:

[Speedline Imports]

I would say if you want to go down that route just sell yours and buy one already done.  Add to that list ECU, mapping, clutch and various other bits and pieces to do the job properly.  Why potentially blow £8-9k when you can buy one for a damn sight less.  Just my opinion in the current market

[Grant Monkhouse]

I would say if you want to go down that route just sell yours and buy one already done.  Add to that list ECU, mapping, clutch and various other bits and pieces to do the job properly.  Why potentially blow £8-9k when you can buy one for a damn sight less.  Just my opinion in the current market

This a true, how much do single setups l cars got for these days? Iv seen as low as 4500!!

[JayDee]

No offence taken,  apparently I don\'t build or port.
Martin has a good point, other turbo\'s are turbonetics which can be built to your spec or the correctly sized Borg warner,  imho no need to build the engine.

REW & Cosmo Street Port
1. 13B                 £ 650.00

REW & Cosmo Bridgeport
1. 13B                 £ 850.00

Taken from someone\'s website, over priced IMO, couple hundred difference like I said. I\'m not saying its easy Jay so don\'t take offence, it is just essentially drilling and then removing metal with a die grinder, or as some like to use a dremmel, lol.

[Grant Monkhouse]

No offence taken,  apparently I don\'t build or port.
Martin has a good point, other turbo\'s are turbonetics which can be built to your spec or the correctly sized Borg warner,  imho no need to build the engine.

Who said you don\'t build or port??

[SiH]

As said, it would work out much, much cheaper to buy a car with everything already taken care of.

If you don\'t already have it, you will need (amongst other things, and ignoring brake and suspension upgrades)
Turbo Kit (including air filter)
Fuel system upgrades (rails, pump, FPR, injectors, lines)
Larger intercooler (if you don\'t already have one)
Larger radiator/mint condition stock one (to cope with the extra heat generated)
Good clutch (don\'t cheap out on this part)
Ignition upgrades (leading coil/ignition amplifier/new leads)
New plugs (more expensive than you\'d think)

Plus the cost of porting etc.

If you are looking at the 400\'s or so then speak to DanDan - his car will be up for sale soon and mechanically, everything that needs doing is done. Plus it has a relatively recent rebuild, is ported, and has makes very good power from very low revs. It\'s also got some awesome other touches that are pretty unique.


Porting is an art. To say it\'s easy and just grinding metal is short sighted, and hugely insulting to the guys out there that do it well. It\'s like saying that that dude who build a tiny V12 isn\'t really that talented - it\'s just cutting metal, after all.
Likewise, programming computers is just typing, writing a book is just scribbling letters.

[Bobbit]

come on guys, lets keep things relevant to the thread. Lots of good info here and it\'s starting to get lost in between peoples "disagreements"

[Grant Monkhouse]

As said, it would work out much, much cheaper to buy a car with everything already taken care of.

If you don\'t already have it, you will need (amongst other things, and ignoring brake and suspension upgrades)
Turbo Kit (including air filter)
Fuel system upgrades (rails, pump, FPR, injectors, lines)
Larger intercooler (if you don\'t already have one)
Larger radiator/mint condition stock one (to cope with the extra heat generated)
Good clutch (don\'t cheap out on this part)
Ignition upgrades (leading coil/ignition amplifier/new leads)
New plugs (more expensive than you\'d think)

Plus the cost of porting etc.

If you are looking at the 400\'s or so then speak to DanDan - his car will be up for sale soon and mechanically, everything that needs doing is done. Plus it has a relatively recent rebuild, is ported, and has makes very good power from very low revs. It\'s also got some awesome other touches that are pretty unique.


Porting is an art. To say it\'s easy and just grinding metal is short sighted, and hugely insulting to the guys out there that do it well. It\'s like saying that that dude who build a tiny V12 isn\'t really that talented - it\'s just cutting metal, after all.
Likewise, programming computers is just typing, writing a book is just scribbling letters.

I did actually say that porting is easy but you pay for what people know, meaning that anyone can port it\'s having the knowledge to do it right that counts.

[Grant Monkhouse]

To build or have built a ported single turbo car your looking at 7-10,000 easily, I forgot to add in clutch and ecu when I first mentioned price, that\'s at least another £1,000 to start off with.

You can easily get a street ported single turbo for £6,000 if you look around. Then you can take it to one of the specialists to have it checked over to be exactly sure it\'s running sweet.

If you have £10,000 to spend you could even go to the extreme of buying someone\'s v8 converted FD but you would frowned upon by most:(

[Ed_RX7parts]

To say I don\'t know what I\'m talking about and my advice is Internet nonesense is taking the :censored::censored::censored::censored:. I know a lot of stuff not by looking in the Internet but by actually doing things and speaking to people who actually do these things in real life. My dad is an engineer, so are the majority of his friends. Some of my friends run their own drag car, consistent 8 seconds, of which one of them works for holsets turbo R&D department.

So my advice isn\'t a load of :censored::censored::censored::censored:e, and its not as if I\'m telling it is the only advice to listen too because everyone else knows nothing is it?:rolleyes:

When did i mention your name, i was talking generally......look at what i posted:yes.......unlike others ...if i thought you were talking :censored::censored::censored::censored: grant i would just tell you...and i have no problem doing it on an open forum.....i have no problem doing that if that was the case
!!!!!!....

Please Note: i never have and never will hide behind a keyboard........just not my style fella!

[Ed_RX7parts]

where on earth did you pluck that figure from grant?

i suppose its possible buying a used turbo kit and ebay crap....but you\'ll probably have to spend more sorting it out when it all goes pear shaped a few months down the line......

I said 2000 plus, your kit is 2200 and 2400, so I\'m not far off at that. Your stuff is brand new too Ed, I know someone that got at T51 Kai, manifold, wastegate and down pipe for £900 second hand.

Upgraded secondary injectors, FPR etc is ABOUT 750 if someone fits It for you.

than you need an intercooler and maybe a radiator, not necessary but I would change it. Lets say £600?

That\'s 2250;)

I\'m surprised no one has said to stay with the twin turbos due to the guy only wanted 400 ponies.

Grant,

 if you look at my post above i did say it would be possible with secondhand.......but i still think its a stretch......after you factor in mapping fitting..etc.(plus other little bits that come up..and we all know they alsways do)......also a t51 would be hopeless on a stock pored motor so not much point brining that up:2Confused