What a Trip to WGT

Started by Mir, July 25, 2011, 07:17:30 PM

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12at

yeh so you running the IRS or a solid axles like a ford 9" ??

Mir

Quote from: 12at;780199yeh so you running the IRS or a solid axles like a ford 9" ??

We have not decided this yet! currently working on this issue..Had some constructive discussions with quite a few competent people, but its all under development..

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
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Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

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12at

i would love to see a FD box and IRS rear end blown to bits with 800 rwhp blowing it :) vids of it if you decide to go a 9" i think!

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: tinker-27;780176Don\'t get me wrong I will not be happy till it\'s at 1000 @ wheels so far 800 @ 3,500 revs so with 1 bar it should do it , they are getting 1800 in the states but blocks break at that

Holy crap! When you said 3500 I thought that was when you were getting full boost by?!?!?!

But 800 hp at 3500?! WTF! what willthe engine rev to? 6500 max?

Mir

Quote from: 12at;780211i would love to see a FD box and IRS rear end blown to bits with 800 rwhp blowing it :) vids of it if you decide to go a 9" i think!

Haha all I can say is if that\'s meant to happen, then let it be loll :) it\'s a motorsports! So things like that are prone to happen! Let\'s hope it does not happen to me :(. Pip will come up with some good set up! I have my trust in God and in him!

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

turbotoaster

Quote from: Mir;780189Pip recently built a Danish 20b with the same ports and fuel system as mine-that 20b had GT42 turbo, the car made 609 BHP at .9Bar. So, hoping for 800BHP at 1 Bar is not unrealistic neither impossible.


let me get this correct, your assuming that running 1.5psi of boost more on a similar sized turbocharger will give you an extra 191bhp with the same ports.

Am i missing something here as surely this requires a bit of explanation and noone has mentioned it

Mir

Quote from: turbotoaster;780240let me get this correct, your assuming that running 1.5psi of boost more on a similar sized turbocharger will give you an extra 191bhp with the same ports.

Am i missing something here as surely this requires a bit of explanation and noone has mentioned it

Mate you are not missing anything! Actually you are misunderstanding the information. I never said I will get extra 191bhp, I am saying it\'s "Not unrealistic or impossible" I hope it explains!

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

tinker-27

I am driving mine round with the lower boost setting (722 bhp ) , not had it mapped for the higher boost yet but for the road you just dont need it , I\'m not being a wimp it\'s just so so fast , straights are not so straight after all , the car handels it very well still drives good just you appear behind stuff so fast it\'s scary !!. It makes proper boost from 2200 rpm to 6800 and the higher the gear the faster it seams to go . It would be a real hand full on a track , the ecu can do in gear boost etc but not got time to set it up yet , i
Might run at rotorstock as is just to do some shake down runs to see how it feels , don\'t think I will be giving the pros any competition yet really don\'t want to break it !!!! It\'s good to see people still putting money into fds and not just blowing th up and breaking them

turbotoaster

Quote from: Mir;780241Mate you are not missing anything! Actually you are misunderstanding the information. I never said I will get extra 191bhp, I am saying it\'s "Not unrealistic or impossible" I hope it explains!

Mir

link to the guy on rx7club who hit 860bhp on a t88 34d and what boost was that?

remember a t88 34d is smaller than a gt4202, or what it a gt4294?

Mir

Quote from: turbotoaster;780273link to the guy on rx7club who hit 860bhp on a t88 34d and what boost was that?

remember a t88 34d is smaller than a gt4202, or what it a gt4294?

Mate not trying to be rude but when I have spare time I will look for the link! I am really busy and don\'t have time to get on my lap top to look for the Link!  I am mostly on Iphone! Let\'s hope that my car is ready by RS, which seems remote possibility as it\'s not finished! I also have plan B, so will keep your request in my mind! Cheers

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

frank20bcosmo

Hi Mir,
 
to change the thread slightly and get away from the power wars theme that seems to be developing here bearing in mind its not what it produces its what you can transfer of that to the tarmc that matters,
 
anyhoo!!
 
can you tell me who did the polishing work on your motor did Pip arrange that for you?? I am not sure if you have posted a bigger picture of the engine bay but If not any chance??
 
Thanks
ps I too after much gathering of funds will be arranging to take my 20b back in to WGT for ANOTHER rebuild, this time after the break in period I will be looking at a stand alone ECU with the objectibe of 500 hp on twins, I am sure I will need a few more mods to achieve this but I hope Pip will advise, Pip fitted a Boost Controller (at my request) after the 1 st service and it lasted 300 miles before going pop, I wont be making that expensive mistake again.
 
Thanks
Frank

Mir

Hi Frank!

Sorry to hear about the 2nd rebuild! But again please don\'t think that you are the only one as I have been through the same :)

As far polishilng is concerned, No, Pip never arranged this for me, it was someone else, if you want the polishing done to your 20b, email me the parts you want to polish and the budget! I will try to arrange this for you!

Bigger picture of my engine can be found on the thread, "My 20b is back from WGT", have a look at that! Just a piece of advice, No one can build you a bullet proof engine! But Yes, a good map and tuner can get you a long lasting engine! And I am sure Pip can map a car to a good standard! So going to WGT is a good choice, basically do it once and do it right loll

Mir
gillanis@hotmail.com
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

frank20bcosmo

Hi Mir,
 
Thanks for the info, I am looking at Upper Inlet Manifold, Throttle Body alternator and inlet hard pipes from Intercooler x 2 and the water pipe to the top hose, Budget I am hoping for low to mid hundreds rather than high hundreds, what did it cost you?
 
and just for the record is was Pip who built it last time, however this time I will sit with Pip and get a game plan going to achieve the HP goal I am looking for as I want to keep it on the twins and with the auto box if possible, it was street ported last time, my guess I wll need an ECU and larger capacity intercooler, I have already had a full S/S exhaust no cats and it has a good quality cone filter and boost controller.
 
It over boosted last time and I think the fuel cut kicked in,I knew straight away the seals had gone so I limped it back the 4 miles home and it has sat in my garage ever since, all being well I will be ringing Pip next week to see when he can get it in, yours out mine in :)
 
Frank

Mir

Hi Frank

Yes it was Pip who built it this time. I am seriously hoping that it would work this time as the previous rebuilds failed on very negligible points :\'(

I don\'t remember how much it cost me, but I must have cost of them written in my diary! Will check and let you know. I will be surprised if you get hold of Pip during day time as he normally lives on Dyno lollll so the best will be to take an appointment and see him then!

Pip has done numerous  3 and 4 rotor engines so he is your best bet! Wishing you luck mate

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

Mir

#44
Sorry forgot, in terms of ECU, go only MOTEC, recently MOTEC visited Pips place and developed few maps for Rotary Engine. They actually mapped a Danish 20b FD and my mate (who also has 20b fd) who is mates with that guy who owned that DAnish 20b told me that the power graphs and dyno sheet results were great. So MOTEC M84 is now trial and tested for Rotary Appliaction!

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C