Well time to start again i think(track car)

[Grant Monkhouse]

is there any strength lost by removint the cross piece that goes where the IC now is?

[AtomicRex]

We are going to be bracing it elsewhere to take its place....but apart from that nope

[Grant Monkhouse]

i was thinking you would, a strut brace is the obvious choice.
 
does the car only need bracing at the furthest forward point of the  steering and suspension as i would think anything beyond that point isnt actually integral to the structural strength of the car?

[AtomicRex]

Yes, we do our own strut brace now, very stiff!! pha nah pha nah
 
I am of the opinion that you need to look after the 4 critical points which are the strut towers.  As this is everything you need to control.  Keeping them in place is crucial as otherwise the dampers aren\'t able to do their job!  Also it is impossible to calculate how they are going to act when the suspension goes through its motion.
 
So normally I would say anything in front or behind is irrelevant.  However you need to make sure there is no lozenging in the chassis legs.  This should be lessened by the subframe, but obviously any extra bracing will help.  But there is no point in going OTT!

[davehg]

the end tanks on the IC dont seem to be suffieient enough in size, its like putting a massive exhause on a nova and expecting big power,its the old saying of what goes in has to come out and if there is a restriction in the way its just going to struggle.

rest of the build looks good so far.

[Grant Monkhouse]

maybe the  pictures are just deceptive? Lee\'s last intercooler was about ten feet thick! LOL. so the restriction will be reduced due to thickness??

[Grant Monkhouse]

Turbo toaster, do you think you will be wanting to use my dataloggit to map the car on the twins?
 
if so where will we doing it? i would assume down by Atomics somewhere?

[AtomicRex]

Dave....Ive done my sums!
 
It is plenty big enough, the intercooler is 110mm thick!

[turbotoaster]

remember though that the intercooler is 120mm thick, so even though the end tanks have a quite narrow width. they make up for it in depth


the area of the end tank is 6000mm2, also remembering that air will be filtering into the core as it enters the end tank which will have an effect, so its not like a big tube to a little tube(hour glass scenerio)

the internal area of 4in pipe is around 7500mm2 so its not really much of a restriction.

remember most people run 3inch pipe up to big power which is 4185mm2 so even though it may look like theres a restriction, this was the best way to do it to get fitment and flow.

running a big borg warner turbo means ill need the flow, im going down the similar tactic of what james willday has done, make power by increased flow, not increased boost, yes you loose some torque but at 1.5bar it should be pretty ample.

Speaking to a guy in america about building me an inlet with a 4inch throttle body, hopefully will make it a bit of screamer

[turbotoaster]

Turbo toaster, do you think you will be wanting to use my dataloggit to map the car on the twins?
 
if so where will we doing it? i would assume down by Atomics somewhere?

im not sure how long it will be until its complete, all depends on how much money i will have left, living in stoke means your lucky if you arnt on the dole and earning minumim wage means and having my own place means you cant throw thousands around like its going out of fashion.

ill use my map i did thats on it at the moment as thats good for 20psi of boost, but it will need some tweaking for the new car, the issue i have is its not a road car anymore so i cant map while going to work and back, sounds like me and you will have to find a "private test track" to do some mapping.

one thing im dreading is wheels and tyres, im looking at £1100 for the wheels, but i do have a contact for used porsche cup slicks so that might help keep the costs down.

[Grant Monkhouse]

fully understand, i will see the progress of your car through here so i will know when you will be contacting me. lol.
 
"private test track"? dear god, ok il go buy a helmet just incase. LOL

[Grant Monkhouse]

i seriously need to stop using \'LOL\' in my replies. LOL

[AtomicRex]

If you want to come down here....I have access to a private test track I can use the airfield for runs where I go gliding. As long as we dont take the p1ss!
 
The cross sectional area of the end tank is 11880 mm2 This goes down to 3740mm2 however you are losing 660mm2 into each tubilator. So it is perfectly matched to the size of the inlet which has a cross sectional area of 7390mm2.

[Grant Monkhouse]

I have just been thinking about all that spare space there is behind the radiator now, are you going to be mounting the single turbo sideways, so to speak, and run the down pipe down and around the front of the engine, and then out back?
 
i sure would and it would look brilliant, also helps with placing the pre turbo WI in a good place, hope everyone understands, as i dont have a clue how to draw what im explaining

[AtomicRex]

Oil Cooler fitted now
 
Just waiting on lee to decide on the splitter he is running for the lower brace