happy birthday me!!....oh and here are your apex seals on the floor.....FAIL!

[BinoX]

You\'ve probably had the water seal go then I would imagine.
 
Would probably explain the engine problem \'cause water doesn\'t compress so you\'ve probably got coolant in the engine itself. Maybe it was only a little bit to begin with and it was coping (hence the drinking water and blue smoke) and then when it went a bit more it\'s been misfiring badly! (Someone with better rotary knowledge may correct me on that, but it seems right) But if it is that it probably means that rotors, housings, etc are still all ok

[alxlaw]

i did not forsee this, i just expected it to blow up for normal reasons hence the reason iv been really gentle with it....

i know im not supposed to ask but if anyone has any clue on what its worth in this state?

welcome22morrow@hotmail.com

[grinder]

humm arkward to be honest - i have seen FC\'s change hands for £200 with blown engines - but yours is a show winner - so should be worth a LOT more

[BinoX]

I\'m not sure.
 
I bought a T2 cab with a dead engine recently for £500, although it\'s not in great condition. Mine has faded paint and a few dents here and there and a little rust (cleaned up now) in annoying places. And the roof is all torn at the edges (although thankfully no rust underneath there)
 
So you should get a fair bit more than that... not that I\'m an expert on FCs, having only had one since August for a project!

[L18M]

if i was in ur shoes.. i\'d hold out for a cheap engine.. can pick them up from as little as £200.
im sure one will come round at some point.
i know its just a pain to wait

[alxlaw]

......probably right..... if i can find an engine thats running decent compression i could just throw that in........ oh god this is rubbish...... hmm, where the hell do i find a s5 turbo2 engine for a coupla hundred quid tho? ebay recons canada! lol!

[m1tch]

Alternitivly you could take Brians engine thats been modified, which would add a lot to the value of the car..and be more fun lol

[pdtaylor18]

Not too convinced on water seal failure, think you might have blown the turbo and then that blew your engine. When you had the compression check by Pip and got good 7\'s then that would have shown any weekness in the seals and compression. That could only have been a few hundred miles ago!! Water seal failure will most likely give you problems starting, lumpy idle and then just nothing when it fails to start. To have a failure like that then something has gone bang inside ie tips or the turbo has shot itself to bits and ultimately found its way into the engine.
What boost controller were you using?
really bad shame and hope you find an engine. Realistically you will find an engine for about £600 in good condition. Most cars get scrapped because of the engine has blown.
Speak to Carl Hayward I am sure he will get yours rebuilt cheaper than you think,just give him the block and he will strip it down before you and tell you exacxtly whats wrong.

[alxlaw]

the avcr at 0.75 - well i need to have a think still going through the motions at the min, the way my jobs going at the min whatever happens costs need to be kept to a massive low

[BinoX]

I thought turbo originally (the usual cause of blue smoke), but it was the drinking water that made me think more along the lines of the water seals. I couldn\'t make the link between drinking water and turbo.
 
But as I said, I\'m no expert and pdtaylor18 probably knows a lot more about the rotary engines than I do, so is probably right.
 
If you read this thread again, just so I can get a better understanding of all this (I\'m always eager to learn) is there anything to do with the turbo that would cause the water to be "drunk" or is it that something else may have failed and taken the turbo out with it?

[Prof]

The turbo is oil and water cooled - so if it failed catastrophically in the CHRA (Centre part of the turbo), then water could be going straight into the exhaust blades.
 
Blue smoke is oil - not water - water usually gives whitey / grey smoke and if it has coolant in it - often smells slightly sweet.  White smoke can also be unburnt fuel.
 
Water loss can also be down to a leaky rad or water pipes - best to check those also, and might even be the heater matrix in the car.
 
Not being funny - but what did WGT actually do when you had the car there ?

[BinoX]

Didn\'t realise the turbo was water cooled... The only turbo I\'ve taken out of a vehicle before was just air cooled... Maybe I should have paid more attention when taking my RX7 engine apart!!!

[bnaellis]

When i had my cabriolet luckily it blew on my driveway. I let it idle to warm up then I heard a lound bang, the road was covered in smoke it it sounded like a volkswagen beetle this too had good compression at the time too.


rgds

Brian

[alxlaw]

well tbh they did sod all from what i read of the invoice, they charged 2 and a hal hours labour for \'intercooler removal and refitment\' soooooooooo - still unsure as to what the next step should be with this car.......if i can find an old s5 13b engine then i might throw that in, failing that sell the car as is for a bag of sand if i can find a buyer

[grinder]

one bag of sand heading your way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and it takes about 3 mins to get the IC off the car ??