happy birthday me!!....oh and here are your apex seals on the floor.....FAIL!

Started by alxlaw, September 15, 2009, 01:07:13 AM

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alxlaw

CATASTROPHIC engine failure, thinking along the lines of removing the drum, giving it to wgt asking for a rebuild then fit it back in myself, cant be that difficult.........lol!

how much is just an engine rebuild (minus refit) these days?

engine started to missfire then massive explosions and fire and petrol and zero compression, anyone got a spare 13b knocking around.......(guess im keeping it then)........

FAIL.......

L18M

dam.. sorry to hear the bad news! :(

but look on the bright side.. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.. a present to urself is a nice rebuilt block and might as well get some porting done at same time :)

rebuilts r around £3k/£3.5k, think removal cost about £500/£600
thought gotta think about if the housings can be reused or not. new housings £900, good 2nd hand housing £300
might as well upgrade to fd corner seal springs also.

else u can try find a used lump around or stick a 13b rew in there :p
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

Prof

Quote from: L18M;641493dam.. sorry to hear the bad news! :(
 
but look on the bright side.. HAPPY BIRTHDAY.. a present to urself is a nice rebuilt block and might as well get some porting done at same time :)
 
rebuilts r around £3k/£3.5k, think removal cost about £500/£600
thought gotta think about if the housings can be reused or not. new housings £900, good 2nd hand housing £300
might as well upgrade to fd corner seal springs also.
 
else u can try find a used lump around or stick a 13b rew in there :p

Brian Ellis has got an engine for sale on here - with the big turbo it\'s under the rebuild cost !
"Plus this engine is probably one of the most volumetric engines going! It passes more air than a herd of cows eating vindaloo\'s" - courtesy of AtomicRex


bnaellis

I have a fc engine with 1200 miles on since rebuild forsale, it has large street port, high compression rotors 2 piece stock mazda apex seals, fd corner seal and springs and brand new rotor housing. £2,000  or £2,800 with blitz single turbo kit (down pipe, ext wastgate, manifold etc), or £3000 with all the above inc twin plat clutch and lightened flywheel.
Engine is still running so can be compression tested beforehand.


rgds
Brian

Prof

One thing I would say - get all the supporting ancillaries checked out, injectors, OMP, Fuel Pump, engine loom, ignition system, alternator - if one of these went bad and let your engine down - it could cost you big time if this happened again. It\'s a good time to check everything before it goes back on the car on a new engine.
 
I\'ve lost an engine to ancillaries - it\'s no fun paying out £2K or more when the failing part would only have been £100-200 !
 
It pays to go through the service manual and do the checks for each part - a lot of them can be done off the car - so it doesn\'t matter if the engine is gone - you can still do a lot of the tests off the motor. Regarding the injectors - get them off and flow tested - would cost you maybe £30-50 but well worth it for piece of mind.
 
Really gutted for you that you\'ve lost the motor. - I take it it really has gone and isn\'t just badly flooded or you\'ve a leaking injector for instance (so it\'s only running on 1 rotor - that\'s happened to me and won\'t cost you a rebuild ;) )
"Plus this engine is probably one of the most volumetric engines going! It passes more air than a herd of cows eating vindaloo\'s" - courtesy of AtomicRex


m1tch

What fuel and Boost level were you using? Happy birthday btw :)

Also see if JM garage can do something for you :)

alxlaw

no it went with a huge explosion and fire, threw crap out the back, well iv got 3 options, 1;- i get the engine off brian (thankyou brian :D) and go for an epic build -  2;- i rip the engine out myself and give it to wgt for a rebuilt throw it back in myself, or 3:- as my company\'s making redundancies i POO myself and sell it with a dead engine cut my losses (whats it worth?) im not a gambler which i think you have to be to own one of these for any length of time :P (its the day after and this is starting to get depressing :/

alxlaw

0.75 bar it had started idling weird again and no matter what i did it would\'nt get better then later that week it got steadily worse until last night..... meh!! im up .... creek!! dont know enough - part of me just wants rid the other part just thinks ital be reet LOOK HOW PORNO IT IS!! lol!

m1tch

Mate, don\'t give up on it :)

How did you know it was 0.75bar? do you have a mechanical boost gauge with no vac leaks? what mapped does it have?

L18M

option D) if u can take the engine out then u can try rebuild urself? theres lots of suppoert material and vids on how to rebuild so rebuild urself and just send the housing to be ported at wgt. saves money ad u learn more.. win win :)
or just sell urs n buy brians purple monster lol
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin


grinder

no way - thats terrible news matey :( :( :(

there is always lindop that do rebuilds aswell :D


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alxlaw

ahhhh dunno what to do..... option d is looking good..... option c is looking more likely

if i got a grand for the car id rather cut my losses as my job is looking more and more unstable.....why do things go wrong in 3\'s?

lindop? are they near me ish? (manchester)

grinder

they are in queensferry ( i think ! )

if you decide to get it rebuilt and need a hand with engine removal - just let me know ( and i can rally the troops ) always happy to lend a hand :D

there are a few of us localish - me and shaun have helped remove a single turbo and refit before , been over to Keighley to try and get a car started , shaun has done his own LPG conversion on his FB and lots of work to his FD et... :D

like i said - see what happens - but dont be afraid to ask for help :D :D :D

would be a real shame for you to sell the car with a dead engine .. it will really really really hurt the price - it might be worth a stab at rebuilding your self ( not that i would like to do it !! LOL )


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alxlaw

its nice to know :D - this is what forums are about! clubbing together to help a wounded brother!, but as it is at the min i think scrapping/braking/beating it with a hammer is more likely - i was gonna sell up anyway as my 300 is nearly ready shouldda stopped driving it really.......

just before it died for a few days it was drinking water and would let out a blue puff of smoke on cold & warm start up could this be the oil + water way problem?