tripple rotor FD project...progress report

[antnicuk]

We are working on a 20B cosmo engine transplant into an FD, thought i would post some pics forr those who are interested.  A lot of you will probably find this very dull.

Started with an imported 92 FD with a blown engine.
stripped the engine bay completely.
Took the whole front end off, wheels, suspension, subframe and steering.
Fitted a Cosmo complete front end so it would take the 20b with its strange shaped sump, also its a lot more robust.
Slotted the engine and AUTO gearbox in, yes Auto,  some of you may wonder why auto, but those of you that have driven a cosmo will appreciate how good the gearbox is. We managed to get our cosmo down to 5.5 seconds 0-60 without touching boost, we just removed that cats and put an airfilter on.
We have stripped the block completely and thrown the twin turbos away, we have a hugh Vortec V2 SQ supercharger now bolted on the front.  
The intercooler is two cosmo intercoolers welded together.
We still have a long way to go.....

[antnicuk]

Pic of the cosmo subframe in the FD.

[antnicuk]

it will be a veilside when its finished.

[g11ary]

Great, keep us upto date, this is interesting, to me anyway.
Well done. Would love to have the skills.

[antnicuk]

i would love to have the time.  And a bit more skill would come in handy, might take the trial error out of things!

[gsb876]

Is this the car Ross will be running at rotorstock??

If so running out of time guys.

[g11ary]

No this is nothing to do with Ross\'s car. I have seen it and is totally different to look at and Tony is a million miles away from Ross. And I should hope that Ross is much closer to completion than this.

[antnicuk]

no, this is nothing to do with dragon.  he is 250 miles away.  we just play about, were not in the business.

[maximtaylor]

Nice looking project

Do you have a realistic target date in mind to have it running? I\'d love to have a good look at it when it\'s near completion!

What ECU have you opted for? And can it control the gearbox?

Regards

Max

[antnicuk]

we will probably go for a microtec, as for controlling the gearbox, thats a bridge that needs crossing, as i said above, there is a lot of trial and error, and thats one of the things we will have to sort out once it is running, unless of course you can give some much needed info.  Time is a valuable thing unfortunately, its only weekends and when the wife will let meso it wont be done for rotorstock 04 but should be done for TOTB 04 fingers crossed.

I was impressed with your figures. Do you map yours using the datalogit, if so, on the rollers or the M3?  You temps are also excellent, do you think they had a lot to do with the massive power?

Look forward to seeing you at the 1/4 mile. I am trying to go next weekend in my 13b FD, and i think tim is trying aswell. Would be good to get an idea of whats times we will be getting at Rotorpop.

regards
tony

[maximtaylor]

Auto gearbox is a problem that one or two people have had some problems with when going to an aftermarket ecu, but I\'m not sure what the cures have been - OJ has had this problem for one.

Yes, I\'ve mapped mine with datalogit on the road, along with a Motec PLM for tuning the fuel maps. I am blessed with a beautiful straight two mile long / no junctions section of B road near my house that allows pulls up to about 160 mph, even the Police just leave me to it, they know what I\'m up to!!

In fact they use the same stretch of road for their own VASCAR training about once a week. Just as well I know them!

My intake temps always seem low, I think because the Garrett is working in its efficiency band, pre intercooler temps must be relatively low, at least compared to the stock twins. You\'ll probably find the same with your huge snail!

Hopefully I can get my act together and do Pod next Sunday, I just hope that the weather is better than today.

Regards

Max

[antnicuk]

is your GT35 turbo, a ball bearing turbo?  most seem to go for the 35/40, is this anything like yours?

Mine is only a TO4e with a 0.60 on the comp side, but people have said it looks quite big, it was only 200 quid brand new so i cant complain. It has 1.10 ar on the hot side.

Once mine is mapped for 1 bar, i would like to get a power run on the rollers, who did you go to and where are they?

regards
tony

[maximtaylor]

Mine is the GT35/40 (ball bearing), I think sideways Steve Cleary has a GT35.

Only just noticed that the snail in your engine bay is a supercharger!

The T04e is in your other black FD right?  Gary still runs an FD with a T04e, does a very good job as well

Rolling roads that get mentioned quite a bit are:

G-Force, Aylesbury
CPL Racing, Sheerness
Abbey Motorsport, Oxted

I have gone to the first two, both use Dyno Dynamics rollers, Abbey use a Dynapack, which bolts onto the hubs.

Regards

Max

[royston1xx]

The gt35r and gt35/40 are both the same turbo,thats what i was told by universal turbos in ringwood,dorset/garrett dealer.Also this american company-The 35R is a 35/40 I wrote along winded version about how this came to be in another post. Garretts in house designation for the 35/40 is 35R. When I needed to order new parts for the 35/40\'s it was always cross-referenced with 35R part numbers.

-Sean A-spec tuning.


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[antnicuk]

Well,  its coming along slowly......
The car now has a complete cosmo front end, subframe, shocks etc. This made mounting the engine a lot easier as it uses stock mounting points.

This is the new suspension turret, hand made to take the cosmo\'s bigger shocks.