Norwegian 4 rotor beeing built pÃ¥ WGT

jantore · March 06, 2009, 07:35:59 AM

Well i guess someone already has heard about it. So i thought i should let u guys know that Pip at WGT is in the process of building a 4 rotor N/A PP engine for me to be put into my FD.

The engine parts are all at Pip now but we are trying to figure out a way to cool the rear 2 rotors more.

The car is a 92 J Spec FD, with a GT300 WB kitt and alot of other parts. Il let the pictures speak for it self. I will be coming over in little over 5 weeks to get the engine put in and tuned. Hopefully there will be a track session at Oulton Park at the same time.

A quick track picture from 2008

JT

Prof · March 06, 2009, 07:47:31 AM

This going to be Peripheral ported then ? - seems to be a lot of intake ports filled

:eek

jantore · March 06, 2009, 08:03:23 AM

It says so in the text i wrote. N/A PP. And doing anything else is useless as u cant get the secondary ports big enough on the FD center castings.

JT

mattfduk · March 06, 2009, 08:12:35 AM

Hi JT

Pip told me about this the other week as I am having a 3 rotor PP N/A in mine!

Will have to have a chat at some point!

Matt

jantore · March 06, 2009, 08:24:35 AM

Quote from: mattfduk;589217Hi JT

Pip told me about this the other week as I am having a 3 rotor PP N/A in mine!

Will have to have a chat at some point!

Matt

That would be nice. I will be at WGT for about 3 weeks after easter so u got plenty of time to drop by. Il look forward to chatting with you again. How did it go with the Time Attack last season?

Plan is to get the engine in, get everything hooked up. Get is started, run in the engine, well it\'s more of running in the transmission as tremec says it needs 500 miles. So gonna respect that as it\'s going to see 9000 rpms alot.

So Pip got you hooked on a 3 rotor NA PP engine

cool

U gonna go with the DTA Fast ecu as well?

I think that\'s a cheap and verry good alternative to everything else.

JT

Brett · March 06, 2009, 08:33:45 AM

That should be pretty amusing once its up and running

mattfduk · March 06, 2009, 09:06:19 AM

Quote from: jantore;589218That would be nice. I will be at WGT for about 3 weeks after easter so u got plenty of time to drop by. Il look forward to chatting with you again. How did it go with the Time Attack last season?

Plan is to get the engine in, get everything hooked up. Get is started, run in the engine, well it\'s more of running in the transmission as tremec says it needs 500 miles. So gonna respect that as it\'s going to see 9000 rpms alot.

So Pip got you hooked on a 3 rotor NA PP engine cool

U gonna go with the DTA Fast ecu as well?

I think that\'s a cheap and verry good alternative to everything else.

JT

Yes he did going to use DTA Pro dry sump and RX8 trans

Will try and drop you an e-mail

TA was ok very wet most of the day and was giving away a lot of power and budget! Was happyish with the result but will be better N/A

jantore · March 06, 2009, 09:14:22 AM

Quote from: mattfduk;589224Yes he did going to use DTA Pro dry sump and RX8 trans

Will try and drop you an e-mail

TA was ok very wet most of the day and was giving away a lot of power and budget! Was happyish with the result but will be better N/A

Ok, i have a solution for you in the wet. get some hoosier wet tires, they rock in the wet. And as you live in england you should consider that.

Hehe your going to go drup as well yeah

Nice

And RX8 trans, hmm it will probably hold up for the 3 rotor NA. Im bought the Tremec TKO600 transmission, that is modified by Liberty Gears in the US.

JT

grinder · March 06, 2009, 09:19:48 AM

looks like it will be a handful

mattfduk · March 06, 2009, 09:31:24 AM

Quote from: jantore;589228Ok, i have a solution for you in the wet. get some hoosier wet tires, they rock in the wet. And as you live in england you should consider that.

Hehe your going to go drup as well yeah Nice

And RX8 trans, hmm it will probably hold up for the 3 rotor NA. Im bought the Tremec TKO600 transmission, that is modified by Liberty Gears in the US.

JT

Even if i break it they are only Â£300!

Yes dry sump, cars changed a lot since you saw it last feb at oulton!

Will look at those tyres but i think Toyo R1-R\'s would be better as we have to use Toyo for TA

BlitzBoy · March 06, 2009, 10:18:29 AM

Where did you source the custom E-Shaft Jantore?

This looks like an awesome beast, expected BHP, 550??

antnicuk · March 06, 2009, 10:24:03 AM

looks great, i wouldnt want your fuel bill though ! Do you have any more detail on the gearbox, there are a lot of people who have high HP road/track cars here and keep breaking the rx7 box. I assume yours is a circuit car?

jantore · March 06, 2009, 10:29:42 AM

Quote from: BlitzBoy;589235Where did you source the custom E-Shaft Jantore?

This looks like an awesome beast, expected BHP, 550??

The eshaft and bearing support is from Jeff Bruce in New Zealand. Sourced from Green Brothers Racing in NZ.

We expect about 600rwhp+ somewhere and about 530nm+. But only the dyno session will reveal that.

JT

mattfduk · March 06, 2009, 10:38:44 AM

Quote from: BlitzBoy;589235Where did you source the custom E-Shaft Jantore?

This looks like an awesome beast, expected BHP, 550??

I am hoping to get near 550 at the fly with a 3 rotor:InLove

Quote from: jantore;589237The eshaft and bearing support is from Jeff Bruce in New Zealand. Sourced from Green Brothers Racing in NZ.

We expect about 600rwhp+ somewhere and about 530nm+. But only the dyno session will reveal that.

JT

Pip was saying you wanted 700 fly wheel horsepower from it

I will be at WGT for that and at Oulton for your trackday!

jantore · March 06, 2009, 10:39:20 AM

Quote from: antnicuk;589236looks great, i wouldnt want your fuel bill though ! Do you have any more detail on the gearbox, there are a lot of people who have high HP road/track cars here and keep breaking the rx7 box. I assume yours is a circuit car?

Fuel is not gonna be that hard. Were gonna run 8 550cc injectors or something. Maybe 720cc but not sure yet. Last year i had 4x1680cc injectors running at 95% duty cycle

And im gonna run 98 octane pump gas.

The transmission is sourced from Liberty Gears in the US.

http://www.libertysgears.com/
http://www.libertysgears.com/ttc.htm

I went with the TKO 600 transmission with the following mods.

Face Plate Conversion 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th(Dog engagement)
Bronze Shift Fork Pads
Internal Shift Linkage Upgrade
Surface Enhancement Processing
Liberty\'s Exclusive Threaded Front Cluster
Bearing Support
Cryogenic Processing

With the following gearing.

2.87
1.89
1.28
1.00
0.82

Some modifications is needed. As it has a ford fine spline for the clutch, and you would need to use an adapter plate for the bell housing. And the shifter comes up more to the front then on the stock one. The shifter location is about 20 cm further back on the stock transmission.

Im looking forward to testing out the transmission.

JT