What type or RX7

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Browny

Hi
Just wondering if you can tell me what the differences are between the different types of rx7\'s and if theres is any major disadvantage or advantage of the different types?
RX7 Type-R
RX7 FD
RX7 Efini
Cheers

fil_auto

Mmmmm - will be interested to see the replies here??!! #;o)

logicalChimp

As far as I know, they are all the same thing!

For the RX7 FD, the \'FD\' is just to distinguish between the different models of RX7 (FB, FC, and FD).  All the curvy RX7s from \'92 onwards are FD, regardless of trim.

Efini is just a label used by Mazda in Japan - I think it is the standard Type R (which was the base trim, iirc) but I can\'t swear to that...

sadgoth

ok, here goes:

1992 onwards - 3rd generation rx7 or FD3S (FD)
Efini was the name the RX7 had in Japan
Type R was one of the standard editions of the FD3S higher output (280bhp) engine, twin oil coolers, harder sprung
Type X lux spec many were automatic, sunroof, leather etc
Type S base spec - single oil cooler 245bhp, 255bhp or 265bhp depending on year
there were others:
Type RB, Type RS, Type RSR and the later versions were Spirit R models
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NurburgRob

#4
I\'m pretty sure all FD\'s up to 1/96 had the same power output, the differences are with single or twin oil coolers and general trim items.

I don\'t know the difference between the types like type R, Type R2, Type RS, Type RB, Type X etc but the engines remained the same before 96.

96 - 99 changed to 265bhp from 255 previously with an additional 10lb/ft of torque due to the 16-bit ECU.  Bigger brakes were also added.  I think the RSR had a different final drive also.

99 onwards had 276+ bhp with some models slightly higher.  There were final drive ratio changes amoungst other things.

I seriously think we should put a table together of all our FDs listing standard trim and power, then in future we can refer people to this.

This may be of help: (taken from RotaryArt)
(There are still some mistakes on here though as my 96 has 17" wheels as standard and solenoids instead of the rats nest and is badged as an Efini and not a Mazda.  Also, the RX-7 was not sold in the UK after 95)

Mazda RX7 3rd gen FD series 6

Series 6 (1992-1995) was exported throughout the world and had the highest sales. In Japan, Mazda sold the RX-7 through its Efini brand as the Efini RX-7. Only the 1993-1995 model years were sold in the U.S. and Canada. Series 6 came with 230hp and 200ft-lbs.

Mazda RX7 3rd gen FD series 7

Series 7 (1996-1998) included minor changes to the car. Updates included a simplified vacuum routing manifold and a 16-bit ECU allowing for increased boost which netted an extra 10 hp. In Japan, the Series 7 RX-7 was marketed under the Mazda brand name. The Series 7 was also sold in Australia, New Zealand and the UK. Series 7 RX-7s were produced only in right-hand-drive configuration.

Mazda RX7 3rd gen FD series 8

Series 8 (January 1999- August 2002) was the final series, and was only available in the Japanese market. More efficient turbochargers were installed, while improved intercooling and radiator cooling was made possible by a revised frontal area. The seats, steering wheel, and front and rear lights were all changed. The rear wing was modified and gained adjustability. The top-of-the-line "Type RS" came equipped with a Bilstein suspension and 17" wheels as standard equipment, and reduced weight to 1280 kg. Power was officially claimed as 250 ps (276 hp, 208 kW) (with 330 N·m (243 ft·lbf) of torque) as per the maximum Japanese limit, though realistic power was more likely 220-230 kW (290-308 hp). The Type RZ version included all the features of the Type RS, but at a lighter weight (at 1270 kg). It also featured custom gun-metal colored BBS wheels and a custom red racing themed interior. Further upgrades included a new 16-bit ECU and ABS system upgrades. The improved ABS system worked by braking differently on each wheel, allowing the car better turning during braking. The effective result made for safer driving for the average buyer. Easily the most collectible of all the RX-7s was the last 1,500 run-out specials. Dubbed the "Spirit R", they combined all the "extra" features Mazda had used on previous limited-run specials and all sold within days of being announced. They still command amazing prices on the Japanese used car scene years later.
Mazda RX7 3rd gen FD

There are three kinds of "Spirit R": the "Type A", "Type B", and "Type C". The "Type A", which accounts for 500 of the 1,500 "Spirit" models produced, has a 5-speed manual transmission, and is said to have the best performance of the three models. The "Type B" has a 2+2 seat configuration and also sports a 5-speed manual transmission, 500 of which were also made. "The Spirit C" is also a 2+2, but has a 3-speed automatic transmission and 500 were made.

There is also a "Touring Model" which includes a sun roof, and Bose stereo system. Compared to the R1 and R2 which both don\'t have a moon roof, and they have an extra front oil cooler in the front bumper, and other race modification equipment

The third and final generation of the RX-7, FD (with FD3S for the JDM and JM1FD for the USA VIN), was an outright, no-compromise sports car by Japanese standards. It featured an aerodynamic, futuristic-looking body design (a testament to its near 11-year lifespan). The 13B-REW was the first-ever mass-produced sequential twin-turbocharger system to export from Japan, boosting power to 255 hp (190 kW) in 1993 and finally 280 DIN hp (276 hp, 208 kW, the Japanese manufacturers\' gentlemen\'s agreement on engine power) by the time production ended in Japan in 2002.

The FD RX-7 was Motor Trend\'s Import\\Domestic Car of the Year. When Playboy magazine first reviewed the FD RX-7 in 1993, they tested it in the same issue as the new Dodge Viper. In that issue, Playboy declared the RX-7 to be the better of the two cars. It went on to win Playboy\'s Car of the Year for 1993. The FD RX-7 also made Car and Driver magazine\'s Ten Best list for 1993 through 1995, for every year in which it was sold state-side. June, 2007 Road&Track magazine proclaimed "The ace in Mazda\'s sleeve is the RX-7, a car once touted as the purest, most exhilarating sports car in the world.

The sequential twin turbocharged system was a very complex piece of engineering, developed with the aid of Hitachi and previously used on the domestic Cosmo series (JC Cosmo=90-95). The system was comprised of two small turbochargers, one to provide torque at low RPM. The 2nd unit was on standby until the upper half of the rpm range during full throttle acceleration. The first turbocharger provided 10 psi of boost from 1800 rpm, and the 2nd turbocharger was activated at 4000 rpm and also provided 10 psi (70 kPa). The changeover process was incredibly smooth, and provided linear acceleration and a very wide torque curve throughout the entire rev range.

Handling in the FD was regarded as world-class, and it is still regarded as being one of the finest handling and best balanced cars of all time. The continued use of the front-midship engine and drivetrain layout, combined with an 50:50 front-rear weight distribution ratio and low center of gravity made the FD a very competent car at the limits.

In North America, three models were offered; the "base", the touring, and the R models. The touring FD had a sunroof, leather seats, and a complex Bose Acoustic Wave system. The R (R1 in 1993 and R2 in 1994-95) models featured stiffer suspensions, an aerodynamics package, suede seats, and Z-rated tires.

Australia had a special high performance version of the RX-7 in 1995, dubbed the RX-7 SP. This model was developed as a homologated road-going version of the race car used in the 12hr endurance race held at Bathurst, New South Wales, beginning in 1991. An initial run of 25 were made, and later an extra 10 were built by Mazda due to demand. The RX-7 SP produced 204 kW (274 hp) and 357 N·m (263 ft·lbf) of torque, compared to 176 kW (236 hp) and 294 N·m (217 ft·lbf) on the standard version. Other changes included a race-inspired nose cone, race-proven rear wing, a 120 L fuel tank (as opposed to the 76 L tank in the standard car), a 4.3:1-ratio rear differential, 17 in diameter wheels, larger brake rotors and calipers. An improved intercooler, exhaust, and modified ECU were also included. Weight was reduced significantly with the aid of carbon fibre; a lightweight bonnet and seats were used to reduce weight to just 1218 kg (from 1310 kg). It was a serious road going race car that matched their rival Porsche 968CSRS for the final year Mazda officially entered. The formula paid off when the RX-7SP won the title, giving Mazda the winning trophy for a fourth straight year. A later special version, the Bathurst R, was released in 2001.

I get quite annoyed when we still don\'t know what is what, I know I don\'t know everything but I\'d like to :)
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sadgoth

#5
this has been answered before, have a look here: http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394

oh yes and the UK spec RX7 had a precat and was mapped for UK fuel so had an output of 237bhp - there were only 127 (ish) sold between 1992 and 1995
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

NurburgRob

Quote from: Browny;524596Hi
Just wondering if you can tell me what the differences are between the different types of rx7\'s and if theres is any major disadvantage or advantage of the different types?
RX7 Type-R
RX7 FD
RX7 Efini
Cheers


So, they are all FDs, all imports up to 99 are Efinis and go for a 96 onwards if you can for that extra bit of power, bigger wheels and no rats nest (don\'t ask!)

The Type R2 had no rear seats or rear wash wipe.  90% of the RX7s I\'ve seen have twin oil coolers anyway.

Best thing to do is post details of a car on here and we\'ll all comment on how good it is and which model we think it is :Thumbs-up
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Browny

thanks for all the information, much appreciated, well heres a few i have been looking at for viewing/purchasing next weekend
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/609320.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/609320.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/639935.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/633233.htm
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50660 (not sure if still for sale
 
well there the kind of car im looking at, im not really looking at spending moree than 5-6k and its going to be a project car, im not fussed on condition majorly, but i at least want a runner and fair price for condition.
cheers

Browny

sorry copied on twice, this was meant to be the other
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/411834.htm
cheers

NurburgRob

Anyone selling an RX-7 should be happy to carry out a compression test on the engine for you, it\'s a good sign that the engine is ok if the figures are around 7 or more.  Try looking at less modified examples, if you\'ve not had 400bhp rear wheel drive before you\'ll kill yourself
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