Abs - Fc???

Started by Matts-gen2, June 07, 2007, 09:18:45 AM

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Matts-gen2

Is there any way you can add ABS to an FC that doesnt have ABS?

Matt

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Prof

It\'s possible but a lot of work :
 
  • Hubs need changing to incorporate the toothed gear wheels.
  • Sensors need fitting
  • ABS ECU needs fitting
  • Brake line system needs changing to incorporate ABS manifold
Probably more than that but can\'t remember the rest.
 
Just use cadence or progressive braking and get good rubber on your wheels.
"Plus this engine is probably one of the most volumetric engines going! It passes more air than a herd of cows eating vindaloo\'s" - courtesy of AtomicRex


Matts-gen2

Just feel like their bit spongy, and squeek alot!

Pads and discs look okay.

Change brake fluid and dont drive as fast good suggestions?

antnicuk

abs wont help those problems
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


Matts-gen2

Okay.

Just thought there may be a way of improving the brakes to slow down the llittle rocket.  Once it goes, seems a shame to slow down earlier if you dont have to.

haha.

Thanks for the help.

Matt
   :3gears-lh

Prof

Upgrade disks and pads - that\'s the best way to get more stopping power.
 
Stock FC calipers are pretty good - with the right pads and disks you can halve your stopping distance.  I use Black diamond disks and Hawk pads, but there are plenty of good choices out there.  It\'s worth spending money on brakes - you only get one chance at stopping :)
 
Other good and cheap mods:
 
Change brake fluid (it gets tired) - use dot 4 or dot 5
Use braided brake lines
Do a health check on all the lines and seals
Bleed the brakes
"Plus this engine is probably one of the most volumetric engines going! It passes more air than a herd of cows eating vindaloo\'s" - courtesy of AtomicRex


Matts-gen2

Just wondering the brake fluid reservoir says only use dot 3 fluid, is this a set in stone statement?

Or can dot 4 or 5 be used safely?

Matt

Paul-Tll

Minimum of DOT3:D
P.
The- \'RED KNIGHT\'-sport

92 R1

Brett

DOT 4 can be safely used in DOT 3 systems, the stock FC setup should not feel spongy???
Brap Brap Brap Brap

RotorHeid

Interesting about brake systems!
improving brakes on the budget.
 Standard disks with 4 slots(2slots per side at 90* apart like this I I) with cutter grinding say "2 light cuts" per slots.
 standard mazda brake pads:- add extra slot with 2 hacksaw blade and cut 90* apart like this +.  4 blocks per pads
Brake fluid=5.1 dot with adjustable prop valve e.g trion ( forgot spelling)
It\'s works for me!!:Thumbsup!
Don\'t do it if not happy with it.

All is for sprint race:-short, fast and hard braking track and no place for error!

Matts-gen2

Quote from: BrettDOT 4 can be safely used in DOT 3 systems, the stock FC setup should not feel spongy???

I think the spongyness at the end of braking is the brake master cylinder knackered maybe

ill change the fluid and see if it improves, if not anyone got a brake  master cylinder laying around.

Mite add master cylinder stopper aswell.

Thanx

Matts-gen2

Quote from: ian duncanInteresting about brake systems!
improving brakes on the budget.
 Standard disks with 4 slots(2slots per side at 90* apart like this I I) with cutter grinding say "2 light cuts" per slots.
 standard mazda brake pads:- add extra slot with 2 hacksaw blade and cut 90* apart like this +.  4 blocks per pads
Brake fluid=5.1 dot with adjustable prop valve e.g trion ( forgot spelling)
It\'s works for me!!:Thumbsup!
Don\'t do it if not happy with it.

All is for sprint race:-short, fast and hard braking track and no place for error!

Anyone got an alright set of disks and pads?

This trick sound cost effective, mite be worth a try.

:3gears-lh

Brett

^ I had this exact setup on my EGI - I was using Greenstuff pads though - seriously good braking ability :D :god
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interloper393

swop your calipers to fd ones, should be almost a straight swop? then good pads n disc`s, braided hose, brake stopper and good fluids and you`ll be amazed at how good they`ll become :)
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Matts-gen2

any chance you can send a pic of how the disks should be modified?

Would help a great deal.

How much is a set of greenstuff pads all round?

Thanx