RX7 compared to EvoVI

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Kash_

QuoteI\'m totaly taken by the FD

same here... :) there\'s just something about the FD and rotary engine that gets you hooked more then you realise... lol :driving

nikp

I disagree that 2 different cars cannot be compared together. You can compare any car to any other car

How does the Vehyron compare to a fiesta? In actual fact you need to be more specific, that\'s all.

How does the Vehyron compare against a fiesta around a track? Easy: the vehyron whips arse!

But how does the Vehyron compare against the fiesta for going to the supermarket and getting the weeks shopping for a family of four? Pretty dreadful, the fiesta is better.

So, in fact, it\'s the specific comparison that needs to be analysed.

Is it how does the \'7 compare against the Evo round a track? Or in the wet? etc, etc

Rotary_Menace

i ve been fairly specific already

nikp

Yes, and therefore people should not be saying they\'re not comparable!

evo_ray

Quote from: Kash_same here... :) there\'s just something about the FD and rotary engine that gets you hooked more then you realise... lol :driving

I need a FD fix, but its raining and I\'ve still got that Jap rubber on:Grrr. Looks like I have to go cold turkey!

BlitzBoy

Standard FD whats one of those then !!?? lol :rollin

had a few traffic Grand Prixs with these cars cant say they came anywhere near me and they were modded but having said that I am rolling around in a 550bhp car :D

but I do like the EVOs are they are brilliant standard, may get one for an everyday car
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An evo is easier to drive quick than a Rex imho, as it has all those \'driver aids\'.  So if you and your mate haven\'t done many track days the evo will whoop your arse.  If not it\'ll be fairly even I think.

m4drx

Quote from: evo_rayI need a FD fix, but its raining and I\'ve still got that Jap rubber on:Grrr. Looks like I have to go cold turkey!

its only a bit of water you big girl, give me a call i aint shy o\'no rain :rollin :p :chat :evillaugh
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evo_ray

Quote from: m4drxits only a bit of water you big girl, give me a call i aint shy o\'no rain :rollin :p :chat :evillaugh

:Giggle:Giggle You lot have scared me off about this Jap rubber in the rain! You need to leave your car with me. It doesn\'t seem to get out much!

craigr

I have owned quite a lot of hardware over the years. S14a 200sx - modded, Alfa 156 GTA - modded, 93 FD - modded, Evo VI TME - modded, and now I have my 2001 FD, plus an RX8 - both modded.

All of the cars have been great for certain reasons, and I have enjoyed ownership for certain reasons. Each have been worth owning, and each car has been head and shoulders above the rest for one or more aspects. A recent Top Gear article I read went through the "top 50 fastest cars" and number one was "the last hire car you had" - on the basis that you would rag the t*ts off it and not care - it just seemed so much faster than anything else !!

As others have mentioned, it\'s very difficult comparing the Evo with the FD. If car ownership to you is about the total experience, then it\'s almost impossible to look at in this way.

For me, I have returned to the FD as it is more of an exclusive and considered marque than the Evo. I had the TME (or the Evo 6.5 as some call it) which is widely considered to be the best of the Evo\'s outside of the extreme limited edition stuff. Yes, it was damn fast, yes it went round corners on rails,  I modded it with the usual air, exhaust, ECU, etc and it was a beast. However, it never felt as fast as even my lightly modded first FD - something to do with being sat up begging in a whopping great family car shell. Don\'t get me wrong it was neck breaking acceleration, plenty of positive Gs in the corners, but it just didn\'t feel as fast as it actually was.

In terms of handling, it was incredible, but felt rather artificial. As others have mentioned, it does it all for you. So much so in fact, that you need to drive it differently to the way you would expect in order to keep out of trouble. I had a lesson with the local dealer in order to prepare for the experience as when you start losing it, you have to fight every instinct to back off, and keep the power going. If you don\'t you will lose it - big time. Due to the driver aids, it also gives you a sense of bravado that it dangerous - you will drive beyond your limits as you trust the car to make up for it. If (when) you do finally lose it, you will lose it big time and probably kill yourself.... In the FD, you can feel the handling, you are much more tuned in to what is going on, and you drive within your own limits. To me that is much safer and more rewarding.

On top of that, the ownership experience was totally different. I get people wowed by the FD, wondering what it is, even people who don\'t normally notice cars do, there is a real respect for it\'s design and it\'s beauty. In the Evo, you do get noticed, but by a totally different type of person - no disrespect intended, but typically it\'s the Nova/Fiesta/Max Power (of old) type of teen that shouts "oi oi - Evooooo" at you. Pull up in a petrol station in an Evo and invariably a Burberry clad 19 year old will saunter up to ask you if you have nitrous.


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Quote from: craigrI have owned quite a lot of hardware over the years. S14a 200sx - modded, Alfa 156 GTA - modded, 93 FD - modded, Evo VI TME - modded, and now I have my 2001 FD, plus an RX8 - both modded.

All of the cars have been great for certain reasons, and I have enjoyed ownership for certain reasons. Each have been worth owning, and each car has been head and shoulders above the rest for one or more aspects. A recent Top Gear article I read went through the "top 50 fastest cars" and number one was "the last hire car you had" - on the basis that you would rag the t*ts off it and not care - it just seemed so much faster than anything else !!

As others have mentioned, it\'s very difficult comparing the Evo with the FD. If car ownership to you is about the total experience, then it\'s almost impossible to look at in this way.

For me, I have returned to the FD as it is more of an exclusive and considered marque than the Evo. I had the TME (or the Evo 6.5 as some call it) which is widely considered to be the best of the Evo\'s outside of the extreme limited edition stuff. Yes, it was damn fast, yes it went round corners on rails,  I modded it with the usual air, exhaust, ECU, etc and it was a beast. However, it never felt as fast as even my lightly modded first FD - something to do with being sat up begging in a whopping great family car shell. Don\'t get me wrong it was neck breaking acceleration, plenty of positive Gs in the corners, but it just didn\'t feel as fast as it actually was.

In terms of handling, it was incredible, but felt rather artificial. As others have mentioned, it does it all for you. So much so in fact, that you need to drive it differently to the way you would expect in order to keep out of trouble. I had a lesson with the local dealer in order to prepare for the experience as when you start losing it, you have to fight every instinct to back off, and keep the power going. If you don\'t you will lose it - big time. Due to the driver aids, it also gives you a sense of bravado that it dangerous - you will drive beyond your limits as you trust the car to make up for it. If (when) you do finally lose it, you will lose it big time and probably kill yourself.... In the FD, you can feel the handling, you are much more tuned in to what is going on, and you drive within your own limits. To me that is much safer and more rewarding.

On top of that, the ownership experience was totally different. I get people wowed by the FD, wondering what it is, even people who don\'t normally notice cars do, there is a real respect for it\'s design and it\'s beauty. In the Evo, you do get noticed, but by a totally different type of person - no disrespect intended, but typically it\'s the Nova/Fiesta/Max Power (of old) type of teen that shouts "oi oi - Evooooo" at you. Pull up in a petrol station in an Evo and invariably a Burberry clad 19 year old will saunter up to ask you if you have nitrous.


Craig

A subjective well rounded post :)

trevtubby

hmm, this is an interesting topic for me, as i`m in the middle of deciding whether or not to sell my RX7 to my mate and to buy an evo 5.

I`ve had a tuned evo 4 gsr, and loved it...but nowhere near as much as I love the rex.

I`ve always wanted the evo 5 though, they just look so mean, probably the best looking evo imo. I really dont know what to do, and this post isnt really helping me decide lol

evo or rex, rex or evo?...AARGH! lol
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Quote from: trevtubbyhmm, this is an interesting topic for me, as i`m in the middle of deciding whether or not to sell my RX7 to my mate and to buy an evo 5.

I`ve had a tuned evo 4 gsr, and loved it...but nowhere near as much as I love the rex.

I`ve always wanted the evo 5 though, they just look so mean, probably the best looking evo imo. I really dont know what to do, and this post isnt really helping me decide lol

evo or rex, rex or evo?...AARGH! lol

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normski

Quote from: BlitzBoyStandard FD whats one of those then !!?? lol :rollin

had a few traffic Grand Prixs with these cars cant say they came anywhere near me and they were modded but having said that I am rolling around in a 550bhp car :D

but I do like the EVOs are they are brilliant standard, may get one for an everyday car


Heeee hehee!:god  I like it, like lot! BIG power FD\'s once you get hooked thats it! no going back on that one!
 Who needs those  Heave hoe\'s

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