8 pot Brembo fitment?

Started by Initial-D, March 24, 2007, 06:27:59 PM

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Initial-D

Has anyone had Brembo 8pots fitted to their FD?
Just wondering what wheel specs you had, to get them to fit along with any pics.
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Fish


Initial-D

Lol whats so funny about my question Fish? Some big beasties are what the FD needs as the 4 pots aren\'t up to track abuse on single turbos.

I\'m under the impression that the minimum size would be 18" to clear the calipers - what about width though, I\'ve got 9"s? My offset is +18 on the front which should be alright. Just checking on what anyone else has done.
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Initial-D

Or are you thinking \'Overkill\' ;)
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Fish

More pots dont make a better brake setup. The discs are also factor in to it.

Nothing wrong with fitting 8 pots, but are you also going to be replacing the rears with say 4 or 6 pots?

Are you also looking at removing the stock brake servo and putting a pedal box and individual reservoirs?

I\'d stick with a good set of 6 pots and a well sized disc.

Fish

Initial-D

Quite true! Although Endless does some lovely 12 pots! Mmmm!

I\'ve queried the master cylinder setup etc.. but for the time being we\'re going to test it on the stock setup as we have the time to adjust and replace components until its right.

I do want to beef up the rears as the bias will be 99% front! So a good 4 or 6pot on the back whilst retaining the handbrake will be on the cards. Got a proportioning valve too, but like most things if you change one part theres a knock-on effect! Plus the money side which means I can only do things step by step rather than all in one hit. I\'d rather buy something once than keep uprading it.

You still going to run APs on yours?
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Initial-D

#6
Actually re-reading that bit about buying something once makes me wonder why I didn\'t just go and buy a Porsche GT3 RS!!

I guess there isn\'t many FDs running 8 pots then lol! I\'m in two minds now, maybe I should go with a 996 Brembo instead, and slowly turn the FD into a Porsche in Japanese clothing!
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20B_boy

Quote from: Initial-Dmakes me wonder why I didn\'t just go and buy a Porsche GT3 RS!!
\'Cause u really want a GT2 :Giggle

What 4 pots do you have that arent up to track use to date?
R.

antnicuk

i use fd calipers with spacers and hawk hp 10\'s pads, ap racing fluid and 330 x 30 mm discs and even under tough track conditions they work brilliantly all day on the track.

my car weighs a lot more than yours so you have a big advantage their aswell.  There is no point having such big brakes that you have to remove the servo assistance because they lock up to easily.
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

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Fish

If I could find somewhere that coudl make the bells and brackets for my AP\'s I would have them fitted.

KAD do a kit for hte AP 6 pots but not hte model caliper I have, and it has different mounting dimensions.

Fish

Initial-D

Well currently its standard discs with FD 4 pot and Endless carbon ceramic pads. They are fine when warmed up but I can\'t help thinking they will give out after more than a few laps of abuse. I\'m having the lines in the engine bay replaced along with the ABS which has been binned. A propotioning valve is going in too. Probably a large master cylinder also - depends how it feels once the brakes are on.

I was looking at getting some Porsche brembos for the front which would enable me to use a 32mm width rotor. But someones come up to me with some huge Brembo 8 pots with 34x370mm discs and my jaw dropped. Hence my question about fitment! I\'d never need another brake upgrade! Well apart from the rears lol!

KAD should make the brackets but they are alway so busy!
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antnicuk

we have 360 mm discs on the tripple and they only just fit inside the 19" wheel.
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Fish

I have the calipers and some nice 355*32mm discs, but just cant find a good company to get the job done.

Fish

20B_boy

#13
I think any thing much bigger than 350mm and you will need to pay close attention to brake to rim clearance on some 18s (not all by any means, but some).

I\'ve driven Brembo and AP 4 and 6 pots with various pads and I always get the feeling that the difference over stock is night and day. How much does a 370mm disc weigh btw? I cant see you gaining much more than weight (and spangle-factor ofc) by going to discs that big. I would concentrate on trying to get some thing decent working on the back end before whacking some mahoosive fronts on it, proportioning valve or not.

Another thing to consider is really aggressive pads are likely to tear up discs a *lot* quicker than \'normal\' fast road/track pads - so if you are looking to be doing a lot of track laps you should check disc replacement costs arent particularly nasty for the part you are intending on using. AP discs/calipers vary in price a lot depending on size and more so how popular the parts are; some similiar items can vary in price a lot so its another thing worth checking.

Finally, dont feel you need to run Brembo or AP; ask Jez about the K-Sports he ran in his Nissan in Time Attack last year for instance, they are well cheap in comparison usually, so might be worth considering. I think Hi-Spec and KAD and similiar money to Brembo?
R.

iaint

Quote from: 20B_boy\'Cause u really want a GT2 :Giggle

But you can do some serious mods to the FD for the cost of a medium GT2 service... ;)

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