She\'s still smoking...

[dandan]

afraid i dont have any aftermarket gauges apart from the pfc commander, so i dont know the oil temp at all for example, and no second reference for the water temp.

I no longer have aircon so cant use this to switch the fans on.
I\'m wondering if the temp was just peaking and about to go down due to the fans when i switched it off? would it drop instantly on start of the fans?

damn i sold the datalogit i got with the car a couple of weeks ago!

I\'ll get a better idea of how the water temps go when ive run it round the block for ten minutes i suppose, better get my headlights back in.

[nikp]

Oh, just a small note: even though you don\'t have the air con, doesn\'t mean you can\'t have the fans come on when the air con button is pressed. I don\'t have air con either, but my air con button still made the fans come on - i made sure that when the guy de-pressurized the system, he helped me sort it so the fans come on. it is possible.

[Ricco_04]

Are the fans wired up correctly so they can come on?

I thought the stock thermostat came on at around 92-96 degrees c?

The bubbling you can hear is localised boiling from the turbos as they are also watercooled.

[nikp]

I think Dan said the fans were coming on, but the temp didn\'t come down. Dan, there\'s no way that you turned it off just before the temps came down. what you should have seen happen is when the fans come on, the temp stabilsies (maybe goes up by one more degree), and then after a little bit (maybe somethng lile a minute) the temps will start to come down slowly - degree by degree.

Thermostat starts to open at about 79-80 degrees. But it could be stuck shut, and thats why the temps aren\'t coming down. It\'s a possiblitity - and not a rare problem (all cars can get sticking thermostats)

[dandan]

ok so yes nikp is right, the fans are coming on it but maybe a bit late (i couldnt tell you the exact moment they kicked in) and also they dont seem to be affecting the temp at all, as after being on the temp rose at least another 10 degrees.

Ooh, thinking about it i did put plain old water in with no coolant, forgot that i was going to drain it again and put some with coolant in as i heard mixing brands may cause trouble. if i flush it and refill with coolant could this have a significant effect? feel free to flame me if this is the cause of my problem and im just an idiot!
Still doesnt expalin the exhaust smoke though, i\'ll wait till i run it i suppose and see how it goes after that

[fro]

where are you in southampton Dan? I could come round and offer a second opinion if you like?

[nikp]

Water or water with anti-freeze won\'t make any difference to whether the temps go down or not. Even just plain water will mean the temps should come down (In fact, pure water will be the best coolant for your engine, but won#t protect it at all)

[dandan]

hi Fro, rob isn\'t it? travelled up with you to brooklands a few weeks back, i went in robedwards\' car.

You are more than welcome to come and have a look anytime, i live in chandlers ford, on chalvington road, you know it?

I also took a wee video on my phone of the car running, i uploaded it to photobucket but it is the WORST conversion ever, but if you watch the second half you can see the smoke from the exhaust for reference. Does anyone know how to get a 3gpp video up onto the net in a decent form, this one doesnt even have sound! http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/dandantrash/?action=view¤t=MOV00002.flv

bay looks shiny though!

[fro]

Yup I remember you from the brooklands day Dan. I can get over to you at 5:30-6ish if that\'s any use.. I don\'t know Chandlers ford but the AA\'s route map reckons you\'re only 12 minutes away (which probably means more like 24 )
PM me with your house number if you\'ll be around later, if not I can probably do it tomorrow
Cheers

Rob

[dandan]

i have some private graphics jobs i need to do tonight so i wont be home anywhere near that early! maybe tomorrow is a better bet? it\'s number 75, it\'s no secret!! lol

[fro]

i have some private graphics jobs i need to do tonight so i wont be home anywhere near that early! maybe tomorrow is a better bet? it\'s number 75, it\'s no secret!! lol

oh no everyone will be calling round your house now! :Giggle
Tomorrow should be fine
Cheers

Rob

[dandan]

meh, all are welcome! you\'ll get a cup of tea if you fix the damn car too

[nikp]

A cup of tea for fixing your car? Is that all?

[dandan]

oh ok, and a biscuit.

[jon haines]

Its maybe at bit crude and not a long term solution but you could link out the radiator fan switch when it gets aournd 85-90 and leave the fans running to see if that holts the temp rise to dangerous hights?.