UpGrade Stages?

[Grizzly]

Does anyone know of any sites that have the Stages of engine Upgrades for the T2.

Chris

[grinder]

engine upgrades - no idea

but you can do the simple stuff like a fuel cut defense thingy and a boost controller

but i assume you already know this !!!

[Paul-Tll]

What...
Chris thought you would have your own site !
Of all you posts here and there over the years
What you got going on at the mo. Did you get that computor
sorted ( E6 ?),radiators ,body kits thought it was all in hand.
If you mean the actual engine Hurley or Haywood in the uk,
spose but FC3s-pro. or killerbee or some of the Aus site spring to mind.
Paul.. (you taking a car to pod)?

[Grizzly]

I am asking for refrence for others as well as a 4 year refresher.

Guess i should read my Threads before Posting them, that makes me sound like a Newbie.

Chris

P.s. Have my own site, LOL i am the origanal Computer Muppet.

[Grizzly]

Ok this is my first Mods, Exhaust,Filter (of my Red T2) LTX8,1000cc injectors,FPR,GTR Fuel Pump,FMIC,TO4e

Thats what i would need for 280-300 bhp i would have thought.

But i was more intrested in what people run on Stock EMS,IC with Filters and Exhaust without blowing up?

I personaly have seen 240bhp from a stock T2 with 12ish Psi of boost (not taking Spike into account from the Exhaust and Filter) which over 6 months blew the Turbo,Rad and finaly 2 Apex Seals.

I was intrested as a Guy i spoke who was in the start Tuning position was told he could run 1 Bar on a stock car and fuel system. This is somthing i will not belive until i see it.

Chris

P.s. I dont understand how people can claim 260-280bhp on stock Engines/Turbo\'s etc? I just thought i had missed some cool new Trick.

[Grizzly]

I think i\'ve had one of those days.

Chris

[grinder]

hiya chris - hope everything is well !

i can remember talking to you a while back ( you was looking at jons car )

i was wondering about upgrading mine ( only thinking at this moment in time )

so what the best course of action

1 - fuel pump
2 - bigger injectors
3 - ECU

or is there a SAFE way to gain a few BHP ( already have a power flow exhaust )

i dont think a panel filter makes much of a difference

is it worth doing the throttle body mod , or not , jon said you had probs with your - in that it would only tick over at 1.5K from that point ??

Thanks

Stu

[Grizzly]

Well first of i think you have your list the wrong way around, in my opinion i\'d do it ECU first then exhaust,Fuel pump and Injectors etc. if you fit your Injectors and pump first you will have nothing to drive the Injectors so it will run very Rich.

My TB mod was only fitted the day before and as i droped everything to come over to sort Jon\'s Turbo, so i didn\'t  have time to set the Idle up so yes it did run at 1400rpm, but it dont now Nice of him to point it out after his little stunt.

End of the Day it all comes down to "what Power are you looking for?" followed by the "How much have you got to spend?" Question.

Chris

P.S. How is the car going, Ok i hope.

[grinder]

thanks for the reply chris !

the car is doing fine , it need the tracking doing at the minute and maybe the wheels balancing - its gets very twitchy at about 135 !

the upgrades - i was just thinking what i could do to it - i can remember you telling me about the stuff - i just forgot about the order ( and yes it was nice of jon to remind me about yours )

the car is running ok and its nice and fast - so i was just wondering what i could do to it

what did the Throttle bod mod actaully do ?

im not after STUPID BHP , but a little more wouldnt go a miss !! ha ha ha

im after maybe only a 50 BHP increase probably - but it all depends on what costs are invloved and how much hassle it is - and how much it cuts engine life by

i dont want to do what jon did as im not sure if that caused the turbo to fail ?? ( but it depends on who you speak to - to if that caused it )

im sure jon said that for about 1K you can get it up to about 330 BHP ( ecu , fuel pump and injectors ) - but again i havent confirmed this price ( yet !! )

so you say do the ecu first - is that a simple case of sending it to pip and ask to drop in a ecu and map it ?? - or something more difficult ?

this could turn into a very long thread !!

Thanks

Stu

( are you going to the decembers meet ?? )

[Grizzly]

£1000 for 330bhp? LOL

Jon never got to do any mods so i dont know where he gets his figures, £1000 will see 250bhp if your lucky, You have to do the Expencive bit first before you can think of fitting Big Turbo\'s and Porting it, thats where the Grand goes ECU,Injectors,Pump + Fitting.

Then when that is done you can think about fitting a T4 and a Ft mount IC Etc then you may see over 300bhp but without a Turbo you have no chance.

"Why did Jon\'s car have a Turbo Problem?" it goes somthing like this, He fitted a Boost controler and a Decat then wound the boost up, this basicly made it run lean, we have all heard about the  Apex\'s going when it run Excesive lean but one of the milder Symptoms that take place is the Turbine Housing Cracks around the Wastgate this causes poor throttle responce and a loss of Boost.

This is why we replaced his with the one of my old Turbo.

My TB Mod only realy helps the Throttle responce. If i was you before looking for more HP i\'d look at the Reliability mods.

Chris

[sophie23_98]

i dont think jon said £1000 as he knows its about that for ecu so where u get the info from on prices i dont know and we decated first then boost controller and fcd we bought all pieces at the same time off pip.

[sophie23_98]

the advice we got when buying our upgrades was to start off with boost controler and fcd see what you think and by doing that we asked pip what bhp it would be running and he said 250-270bhp we got advice what to do next for upgrades and it was working out about £1600 for the parts ie ecu fuel pump fuel injectors etc.
we booked in to get these parts but then i bought 3rd gen so canceled booking.

[grinder]

jon told me it about about 1k for the ecu , pump and injectors - so this is where i got my price from - i cant say any more than that as its all i know !!

after speaking to some rx7 place they said that they had supplied loads of Boost Controllers and FCD - and never had a problem - BUT - you have to make sure you have no cats first - as the engine runs lean ( hot ) other wise - thus the turbo can go bang ( well crack anyways !! )

so chris - as reliablity mods - what do YOU suggest - and what prices and BHP am i looking at

at this moment intime i have to confirm that i have cats or not - so i will have a nosey under the car at the weekend - this should give me a starting point to all this

although i spoke about some upgrades to the better half - and at the end of the day she wasnt impressed - women eh - they have no idea !! But then again - she cant drive the car so thats probably why !!!

Thanks

Stu

[88GT-R]

Hi,
I know that you asked Chris what he would suggest, so i hope you don\'t mind me sharing my limited wisdom. As you said you are only after about 50 brake or so, you should be able to achieve this with most of the \'reliability\' mods. Ie, fuel pump rewire, larger fuel pump, larger secondarys and an ecu, eg microtech. Using the microtech will eliminate your airflow sensor which will increase the amount of airflow. You will not need an FCD. If you take the cats off, you might as well take the airpump off as well as it is useless at this point. If you are worried about passing the emissions part of the MOT, you can lean the fueling at idle, which will pass. With the cats off and air flow sensor gone you will need to control the boost from spiking.
 I hope that this has helped.

John
88 GT-R

[88GT-R]

Just to add another point, If you are running the S5, you can also port the wastgate to allow the actuator to stop exsess spiking.
After all this i think you will be looking at a reliable 250-260flywheel hp, depending on your exhaust system and compression.

John
88 GT-R