OH NO - it\'s MOT day.......

Started by Thud, August 11, 2005, 10:27:58 AM

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Thud

I dropped the RX7 of this morning for it\'s MOT and I have to say I\'m BRICKING myself. With a 15 year old car you can never be too sure what surprises your are going to get during an MOT.

My main worries are :
- the car is pulling to the left and has scrubbed the outside shoulder of one of the tyres (not sure if it is enough to fail)
- I recently replaced the two front brake calipers as one of the original ones was starting to sieze. I guess I am about to find out how good my DIY skills are  ;)
- I THINK I have cut out and killed all the rust in the car, but when a mechanic gets all pokey with a screwdriver who knows what other rusty horrors he may find
- The exhaust seems a louder than I remember and my Y piece looks a bit nasty. I suspect it may be blowing a bit.

This is a good garage who I have used in the past with no complaints. I\'m sure they will call me before failing the car to agree on any work that needs done. Regardless, I have a strong feeling that by the end of today my wallet is in for an extreme kicking.

Just thought I would share my anxiety as I know all my fellow RX7 bretheren go through the same trauma once a year.

Hey ho - I will keep you updated on what happens throughout the day.

Stuart

grinder

mine pulls to the left aswell - you will have to let me know if you fix it :)


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Thud

Stu - this problem has been bugging me for months. So far I can\'t tell you what causes the problem but by expensive elimination I can tell you what doesn\'t cause it :
- springs and shocks have been replaced
- front bearings retightened
- tyres rotated and pressure has been checked.
- alignment has been checked

None of these things sorted it so it is probably one of the following :
- tie rod ends shot
- ball joint worn (God no - to replace these on an S5 FC you need to buy a whole new lower arm ££££)
- the car has been crash damaged and not repaired properly
- DTSS bushing shot

I have noticed a weird thing though - the rear driver side sits 1.5" lower than the passenger side rear. I figured this was due to sagging springs, even after I changed the shocks/springs the height difference is still there. Apparenly this is not unusal in an FC and can be due to a lifetime of single lardes sitting in the driver seat. Over time all the bushing etc get tired under constant pressure from a fat bum and the car start to sit unevenly.

Anyway - I will let you know if I ever pin it down and get it fixed.

Brett

Is it pulling under braking or during normal driving? If its under braking there\'s a chance its the road camber (assuming your roads are as nasty as the back roads I use) pulling you as you brake.
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Thud

The pulling is during normal driving and I also hoped it was due to road camber. I tested this theory out on a flat car park and the car still pulled. That coupled with the fact that the car is scrubbing tyres suggests that somethings stinks about my steering/suspension.

grinder

why does this sound expensive :(

- springs and shocks have been replaced
- front bearings retightened
- tyres rotated and pressure has been checked.
- alignment has been checked

i have done all them apart from the shocks :(

and it still does it - when i let go of the wheel - its like it turns 1/4 of an inch to the left then it pulls

im wondering if the steeering wheel isnt on straight - if i hold it in a straight line - it drifts to the right - but the laser tracking showed it as perfect ??

dunno - its confused the hell out of me for nearly 2 yrs now !


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Brett

Out of interest, have you tried calling an Rx7 friendly Mazda garage/specialist? This could be a fairly common problem and they may give you the answer straight out.
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WillRayden

Quote from: grinderim wondering if the steeering wheel isnt on straight - if i hold it in a straight line - it drifts to the right - but the laser tracking showed it as perfect ??

dunno - its confused the hell out of me for nearly 2 yrs now !

Mine does this as well...  I assumed it was tracking and have it booked in next week to get new boots fitted (Goodyear Eagle F1) and get the tracking done.

I take it this probably won\'t solve the problem then?

Brett

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scramp

hmmm, mine pulls to the left as well, i just put it down to old age :) lol

Thud

OH MY GOD - it passed!!! In fact it flew through with nothing needing to be done! I am shocked but ecstatic - I plan to Gumball this car to Le Mans next year and this MOT will get me though to the other side of the trip.

I guess the guy in the garage must have had a good time last night or something. That or forgot his glasses. I did however get advised that there was some rust on my sills and floorpan (another winter of rust removal - here we go again...).

On the whole pulling left thing, they garage could not find the cause either. They checked for any play in the steering system but came up blank. They only thing they could suggest was previous accident damage - hope not. For the other guys with cars who pull left - are you also getting uneven tyre wear in your front left wheel?

grinder

looks like it yeah - and my Mr MOT man couldnt find why mine pulled either ??


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Brett

Well done on the pass mate :)  
(Oh the joys of FC ownership, the MOT is like waiting for an operation to end!)
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FD3SNuttah

haha well done, cos you didnt jinx it you passed! i reckon that your A arm might be bent a little?

Martiny

The pulling, I am sure is caused by a front brake caliper sticking. Its a common problem on the FC.

Let the brakes cool completely, or even better, take a drive first thing in the morning. Do a short drive, say about a mile WITHOUT using the foot brakes at all. Now stop the car and go and feel each front brake disc. I am pretty sure you will find one side hotter than the other. The hot side has a sticking caliper and it probably needs to be rebuilt.