who\'s got electric water pump?

Started by t2rew, October 23, 2004, 10:38:26 PM

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t2rew

i have an electric water pump with the controller, my question is to peaple with one.
where did you set the controller. on mine it has "run hotter" if twisted to the left, anti clockwise. and "run colder" the oppersite.

run colder makes the pump run faster. don\'t that mean the water won\'t get the chance to cool in the rad before being pumped into the engine again?

maximtaylor

I never got on too well with the controller - it proved both unreliable and not good at temperature control - especially during warm up, where temps would go through the roof before the pump would cut in!

It\'s most annoying feature is that should the sensor fail (as mine did), the pump stops, rather than defaulting to full flow.

I had mine wacked all the way to full cold. I now run mine straight off the ignition fed live, so it\'s on all the time.

Max

Carl

Hi Jason,
On the ones I have used we have done away with the controller,
Sorry for not getting back to you about it.
Try running the engine with a switch just for turning the pump on and no controller when the temp has risen to normal.
You will need to wire in some sort of failsafe so as to never forget to turn the pump on,like wiring it to the ignition.Make sure the fans are operating too.
Kind regards
Carl

K1HKS arse

Is it an EWP Craig Davies pump?If so junk the controller,no good at all.As said previously wire it straight to a switch or ignition live.

t2rew

ok so the controller is crap. shame the man that told me to buy the pump never mentioned i could have saved £80 by not getting it.

but there is still a problem with your advice. my car doesnt like running the pump fast. infact i get better results by running it slow.

the last couple of months worth of weekends ive been trying to get the car to run cool. today what seemed to work best was run the car to temp were pump comes on. cool water from rad goes into engine and temp drops. disconect pump to give water in rad chance to cool. engine temp goes up turn on pump cooler water from rad cools engine down. this works but the temp keeps getting hotter by 1degree untill this method stops working.

its as though, the engine is producing too much heat or the rad isnt man enough. my next port of call is a alloy rad manufactuer but i dont just want to mask a potential problem.

what do you all think?

Carl

Is the pump defintely below the bottom of the radiator?
It needs to be as low as you can get it,and below the bottom of the rad.
The pump also does NOT like to be mounted onto anything,rather as the instructions say just mount the connecting pipes instead and allow the pipes to support the pump.

Is the pump running the right way?If running backwards it won\'t work hardly at all.
Kind regards
Carl

t2rew

pump is not bellow rad its mounted flush with bottom. see pic..
it is mounted to a mount but i have had it running without it , just relying on the pipes and it was the same prob with temp. and i have run the pump the opposite way but no change
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:reallymad

Carl

QuoteOriginally posted by t2rew
pump is not bellow rad its mounted flush with bottom. see pic..
it is mounted to a mount but i have had it running without it , just relying on the pipes and it was the same prob with temp. and i have run the pump the opposite way but no change
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:reallymad

Drop the pump completely below the rad.Run plain water and try it.
Kind regards
Carl

maximtaylor


t2rew

will do it this weekend carl.

max, i didnt have a stat. but it just gets hotter and hotter till i turn off. i then put one in and it made it maintain a temp of 88 for quite a while so have been trying things while keeping the stat.

im thinking of junking the lecy pump and trying the normal one

grinder

how do you find the twin elec fans rather than the stock fan ??


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t2rew

my fans are pulling 3000cfm between them.

its hard to say if there better than the stock monster

grinder

it looks a lot neater at the front end though

are they aftermarket fans or borrowed from another car ??

how do they know when to start and stop - or do they run all the time ??

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t2rew

hi.
  fans are from demon tweeks, one 500cfm one 2500. they know when to run when i plug then into the batt:)

once its all sorted ill wire them into the ecu so it can be set to turn on when i want

t2rew

tryied it with just water today but no different.

i would say that the pump does seem to whip up the water though. im starting to loose interest in the electric pump. if the 80 quid controller is crap and the pump seems to do nothing more than whip the water i think its time to go back to standard. ill be trying the standard pump once i get some more plumming.

what i did do today was run the hose over the rad. on its own it didnt work but with the fans on as well it worked a treat. the temp fell right down, enough for the cold idle thing to kick in.

im going to sort the big rad out now but as soon as i have the pipes to do away with the lecy pump ill try the stock one and let you know how that went.