Getting a new front bumper....

[hmltnangel]

try this link Si


http://www.tweakit.net/shop/index.php?cPath=57_41_56&osCsid=4feada8c818f4be4ad22620c57000edd

[Warthog]

I think the full kit ( not including pipes ) was about £800. But give Geff a ring he will tell you. The only other thing you will need is a Greddy elbow but Geff has those in as well. When I\'ve done mine I will post pictures etc . Not doing any work on the FD at the mo as Mum-in-law is terminal with cancer she only has a few weeks left and we are nursing her at home. Matter of priorities and she comes first.

[Shark]

For your purposes charge cooling is probably overkill mate.

FMIC is great for drag racing as the really imporant bit is the have as cold an intake as possible.

Personal opinion only, but I\'d say V-mount for you (based on what you said you use it for) the same reasons as I plan to go that route.  The airflow is split between the IC and rad giving the best of both worlds and you can install uprated and larger rad and IC than the stock system so you will see better cooling.

[hmltnangel]

It seems like such a good idea though.

And when you look at the costs of it ..... £450-£500 for the 4x6 pipe then it does seem like a bargain.

IC\'s are way more expensive - £900 for a decent one.

Don\'t think either would be too much of a problem for fitting but the charge cooler also takes up less room.

[Warthog]

Done some measurements and it looks as if the charge cooler rad will fit in the slot that the FD intercooler sits.It may mean moving the battery box a bit but with the air pump out of the way there will be room for it all to fit. I want to put the cc-rad in the ic slot as the way i look at it mazda r&r guys designed that slot for airflow for theic so the water will get cooled. :cool

[hmltnangel]

well, i\'m planning to get the feed front bumper so I think I might get it set up as follows...

radiator at the front - obviously a fine mesh there to stop any debris from poking holes in it!

I will use some of the space to run a cold air duct to the induction kit.

I would like to actually put the cc right at the front - in front of the radiator so everyone can see it .... kinda  paralel to the ground right at the bottom?

as for the cc radiator? I think that lovely air vent in the centre of the bumper can be used for that? put the cc radiator right behind there or have a duct coming from there to the cc rad?

what do you think?

[Warthog]

I can see where you are coming from but i don\'t think you will have the room to put the cc unit where you want to . You also need to be aware that the shorter and smoother the air flow through the cc the better. You would be sending the air a long way. The only difference with flow is with regard to the water, you can in fact have that flowing to a catchment type container in the boot where you have the flow going via dry ice. This is used when doing multi-runs 1/4 mile drag, it keeps the turbo intake air as cold as possible. They do it in AUSSIE LAND and they run very fast times.Hope this helps.

[hmltnangel]

oh well, it was just a thought! Def think the cc radiator needs to go behind that little central vent eh? That only leaves the cc itself? What about at the front of the engine bay - dead centremounted up near the bonnet - sort of where the ic is at the moment except slightly to the left?so that it\'s the first thing you see when you lift the bonnet?

I\'m not really going for the all out power thing. Just want the car to look good and go really well. The cc def looks like the best value for money. easy to fit too and it looks way cool!

Got a place local that\'ll knock up any hard pipes I can possibly need for it too. I mean what would you rather pay ---- £1000 for a greddy ic  and the pipes to fit it or £600 for the cc and the pipes? Besides the cc will do as good a job if not better! Reckon for cruisin it\'ll be a god bet too - lots of sittin around winding up the chavs and their "cars". the cc could be useful there?!

[Warthog]

Have you done a de-cat and got rid of the air pump?
Yes you are right it will sit there. Also when you eventually change over to a single turbo the cc will handle it with ease.
What are you hoping to do mods wise and what have you done so far.?

[hmltnangel]

Well to start with I aint gonna be using the car much more than the odd quarter mile here and there - maybe a track day once a year and mainly to take to meets. I also like cruisin slowly past the chavwagons that sit around the car parks up here! It really winds them up when I go slow. Only one stretch of road in the area good for zippin down reeeaaallll fast. So the cc does sound like a good idea.

Mod wise - at the moment

The cars in gettin a boot install done - mmmm gonna be nice when it comes back next week.

Not much done performance wise.....

just a new air intake and a stainless exhaust and catback.

Also just about to put some polished intake pipes on soon along with a manuam boost control. Not going to up the boost at the moment - just want it to cut out any boost creep and to ensure that the max boost is 10 psi exactly (don\'t want to bust my engine) thats it.

The airpump will be going soon.

My next real mod is going to be the front bumper - thats why i thought I might as well do the ic and radoator at the same time.

[hmltnangel]

some people have been saying that a cc is less reliable cos of the wter pump?

What you could do is to set up a small warning light that comes on if the pump fails?

Shouldn\'t be too hard eh? that way if the light comes on then stop the car and get it towed home where you can have a spare pump waiting!

[Warthog]

The best ideas are always simple. It\'s a simple sytem. If it is a concern then just keep a spare in the boot if the light comes on 4min job--2 x j-clips undone at next garage, top up with water, job done. Also if light comes on stop and loosen one of the joining pipe connecters = total loose of boost = running on normal asperated engine. Not a problem.

[hmltnangel]

So the only question I have left then is - would the 4" x 6" cc be good enough for the uses I need it for? anything bigger just seems like overkill?

[Warthog]

The man to ask is Geff explain what you want to do now. But also what you really want to do later. Then buy the size for later. You know it makes sence. Think of all that boost you can run £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££.