This flooding issue...

Started by HoddyRS, November 22, 2014, 06:16:37 PM

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HoddyRS

Right. So I\'m on the hunt for an RX7 and want to make sure it would be a viable option as it will be used as my only mode of transport when I\'m back from work (only on the weekends mind)
Because of the way our driveway is sometimes the car may need moving around so starting the car and turning it off again over a brief period of time may be needed. I found the following link which explains what may cause the issue (a bug found in the EFI system?) and it makes out that this issue cannot be rectified :|
Can some knowledgable person cast their beady eye over this and tell me how true this is and in fact if there is a way of it not happening all the time?
 
http://www.rotarywiki.com/index.php?title=Rotary_Engine_Flooding
 
Thanks everone :)

boosted

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Some truth in there mate but some scare mongering.

Simply metals expand at different rates and a cold engine switched off looses compression as the metals have expanded at different rates.
Flooding is more prominent in higher mileage engines with worn apex seals and poorly maintained cars i.e weak ignition or tired slow spinning starter....yes its an issue but in my experience its over exaggerated. Simply blipping throttle to 4k and switching off is good practice.
Proper deflood is to remove sparks. Remove fuel pump relay or fuse and crank.
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

boosted

By holding throttle at 4000 rpm and switching off fuel is cut but the engine rotors are spinning from 4k down to 0 and this clears the housing of excess fuel ready for the next start. I do it every time i switch off as i know if i dont habit form the time i do switch off cold it wont start....
Flooded my fd once started up after fitting rad and had coolant leak shut down without 4k shutdown and flooded.
1 fd and 3 rx8\'s aint happened again.
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

HoddyRS

Cheers for your reply mate :) It does help clear things up and and makes me feel a bit better about the issue.
 
I guess my main problem now is when I get one is explaining this to my dad if he decides to move the car so he can get his cobra kit car out of the garage...I may have to put a reminder post-it note on the steering wheel for him ;-) (having said that he does like driving my cars so he will probably take it for a cheeky spin every now and again when I\'m away to erm de-coke the engine :P)

boosted

No worries bud yes just explain 4k shutdown to him and should not have an issue.
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

clive

if you have a healthy engine then providing it see\'s some sort of heat, even if its only for a few minutes just to get it off of its cold start sequence then restarting should not be a problem.

Personally I have owned many Rotary\'s of different types and never even revved before closing down.  

Hope this helps
All the best Clive

boosted

:rollin:Hammer:Hammer

my bad got hot start fail to start flood muddled up with cold start flood:guinness
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

boosted

:eek::Gigglefeel like a right burk now!:3Confused
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

Will66

Preventing cold start flooding is the only thing that requires holding the revs at 4000 rpm, anything else is just wasting fuel.
RX8 High Power, Cusco Coilovers, Dotz wheels and flames. Shoe Size 12
 
Apparently putting details of your car spec in your signature means the nice folks on exile-rotorsport think you\'re a fool.  I can think of no higher compliment!

"Eat it with a chopstick!"

CharlieP

It\'s as simple as good (not too old) plugs and good battery
That\'s the only time I\'ve had flooding

HoddyRS

haha oh dear what\'s gone off there boosted? ;-) So do I disregard what you said, get some good luck charms and cross my fingers? :D
 
I\'m sure I\'ll find out for myself once I pop round CharlieP :)

boosted

Yeah soz mate....keyboard dribble...in a nut shelf keep your car healthy. Try not to turn off cold....but if you have to 4 k shutdown.
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

HoddyRS

Revving it to 4k and turning the ignition off...got it!
 
We got there in the end :D
 
Out of interest mate what kind of spec does the engine in your kit car have? I bet it flys!

roborangefd3s

get it properly mapped, after my engine needed rebuilding after flooding due to over fueling from the hayward map i had it rebuilt and properly mapped to reduce the amount of fuel at cold start - i no longer do the 4k shut off and can move it out my garage and switch off with no issues, the mapper was Marco (Blitz boy mapping)

HoddyRS

That\'s interesting robo pal. You say \'properly mapped\' do you mean by a different tuner other than Hayward or live mapping?
 
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