Crashed FD on the motorway.

[matt p]

Wtf happened there?, somehow I posted three times in an instant bizzare

[samoht]

I don\'t think the bare bent shell itself would be worth anything, as non-bent ones are generally free or cheap.  However I imagine you could get scrap value for it.

However any parts that you\'re not using on the new car could be sold separately, especially if you\'re selling the Tein coilovers or other aftermarket parts.  But I think you\'ll need to remove the parts from the shell to get their value.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Wtf happened there?, somehow I posted three times in an instant bizzare

Are you on your iPhone? Sometimes it does it for me but clears once the screen is refreshed

[YAU730]

Just alot of ideas what to do coming from my head every day, yesterday was find a R34 shell and Today find a NSX shell, but i guess those shells are rare and not a straight forward fitting n back to real life u can\'t beat a Rx7 with the selection of body kits and its just sexy in general.....

[samoht]

Putting a rotary engine into an R34 or an NSX would be a huge project,  I\'ve never heard of anyone doing it so you\'d be the first and would have  to overcome all the mechanical and electronic challenges along the way.   And they\'re noticeably heavier than the FD.  Plus cooling would be an issue with the mid-engined NSX.  It\'s not like  RC cars where you can just swap a different shell on top, I\'m afraid  ;-)  


In reality:
[1] Claim on your insurance.  This is what we pay our premiums for, when we\'re ambushed by bad weather at speed.  Assuming a (low) valuation of £8k, and worst-cast 25% deduction for letting you keep the car, that gives you a £6k fund to resurrect your dream.

[2a] Buy another 99-spec FD, swap over any bits that you want to keep from yours, and sell all the bits you don\'t need from the two cars.
-or-
[2b] Buy a shell and get Pip to rebuild it using the parts from your car.  They do come up from time to time, you\'ll need to weigh up condition, year, paint colour/condition, registered capacity, location to find the best trade-off of all of these.  Ask Pip for an estimate of cost to reshell before you go out and buy, obviously.  AFAIK there is ZERO difference in the bare shells between the first 1992 and last 2002 FDs (anyone know different?), so it\'s all in the parts.  I believe if you transfer enough parts from your current car you can keep the same registration, too (which would also presumably keep the current registered engine capacity).

Some links to ponder:

- I believe this brand new shell is still available, don\'t know at what price though
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX7-FD-Bodyshell-New-/221191268285?

- 2001 car running 478hp, reserve is apparently £7k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Mazda-rx7-fd3s-type-rbs-/121072093512?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c30758948

[YAU730]

Putting a rotary engine into an R34 or an NSX would be a huge project,  I\'ve never heard of anyone doing it so you\'d be the first and would have  to overcome all the mechanical and electronic challenges along the way.   And they\'re noticeably heavier than the FD.  Plus cooling would be an issue with the mid-engined NSX.  It\'s not like  RC cars where you can just swap a different shell on top, I\'m afraid  ;-)  


In reality:
[1] Claim on your insurance.  This is what we pay our premiums for, when we\'re ambushed by bad weather at speed.  Assuming a (low) valuation of £8k, and worst-cast 25% deduction for letting you keep the car, that gives you a £6k fund to resurrect your dream.

[2a] Buy another 99-spec FD, swap over any bits that you want to keep from yours, and sell all the bits you don\'t need from the two cars.

[2b] Buy a shell and get Pip to rebuild it using the parts from your car.  They do come up from time to time, you\'ll need to weigh up condition, year, paint colour/condition, registered capacity, location to find the best trade-off of all of these.  Ask Pip for an estimate of cost to reshell before you go out and buy, obviously.  AFAIK there is ZERO difference in the bare shells between the first 1992 and last 2002 FDs (anyone know different?), so it\'s all in the parts.  I believe if you transfer enough parts from your current car you can keep the same registration, too (which would also presumably keep the current registered engine capacity).

Some links to ponder:

- I believe this brand new shell is still available, don\'t know at what price though
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX7-FD-Bodyshell-New-/221191268285?

- 2001 car running 478hp, reserve is apparently £7k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Mazda-rx7-fd3s-type-rbs-/121072093512?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c30758948

Can u read my mind or something? :Laugh:D thats what i been thinking all day! haha, but  also got my eye on Danny\'s car too:

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77990

[jpc]

AFAIK there is ZERO difference in the bare shells between the first 1992 and last 2002 FDs (anyone know different?)

I have looked at this in the past with Pip. He said the Series 8 shells were different and it would cost a fortune to adapt one to the other.

[YAU730]

I have looked at this in the past with Pip. He said the Series 8 shells were different and it would cost a fortune to adapt one to the other.

Yeah, just off the phone to him not long ago and said the same as the eletrics are diff as i do remember the early ones work on a 8bit and the later ones are 16bit or something, becoming more a headache:2Mad:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr

[jpc]

Yeah, just off the phone to him not long ago and said the same as the eletrics are diff as i do remember the early ones work on a 8bit and the later ones are 16bit or something, becoming more a headache:2Mad:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr

Stop bothering Pip, he\'s supposed to be busy fitting a ported RX8 engine in my MX5 this week!

You should get £8K off your insurers (plus storage/transport costs) and be able to buy it back for £2k.  Can the repairs be done for less than £6K using used parts?

If it was me, I\'d get it fixed. The post-99s are pretty rare already.

Have the insurers told you which write-off category it is yet? If it\'s a cat C then you get the repairs inspected by autolign and get it taken off the HPI register.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Have you got all your modifications declared on your Insurance? Thought is ask as I don\'t think anyone else has

[RotorHeid]

Have you got all your modifications declared on your Insurance? Thought is ask as I don\'t think anyone else has

I was the same... never told the insurance about my PP engine....LOL,

[jpc]

Have you got all your modifications declared on your Insurance? Thought is ask as I don\'t think anyone else has

I have all mods declared and go for "agreed value" wherever possible. This makes a big difference if you ever need to claim.

Without this, there are so few RX7s for sale at any one time that nothing will match your particular car. The engineer appointed by the insurers is very unlikely to know the relative value of yours.  You may want to point them to an importer e.g. Newera to get an estimated value.

[samoht]

Have you got all your modifications declared on your Insurance? Thought is ask as I don\'t think anyone else has

I couldn\'t possibly condone fraud, but purely hypothetically, if there were any discrepencies, it wouldn\'t be hard to remove the unwanted parts before the insurance assessor arrives to inspect it.  So either way, I\'m assuming that a claim could be made for the car in the spec that it has been declared to the insurer.


As far as value goes, two stock \'99 cars sold last autumn
- a TW Whites car was up for £9.5k for ages, no takers.  Cut the price to £7.5k and it was snapped up within a week or so.
- Martin\'s lovely blue car, was up for £7,750 when I saw it, but JonP beat me to it - I\'m assuming he paid more or less £7.5k (that\'s what I would have offered if he hadn\'t).

so a stock 1999 FD in good condition is definitely worth £7.5k.  This one has a lot of nice parts on so should be worth a fair bit more.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Yes but if they see any modifications and they\'re not declared the I surance becomes void

[samoht]

Yeah, just off the phone to him not long ago and said the same as the eletrics are diff as i do remember the early ones work on a 8bit and the later ones are 16bit or something, becoming more a headache:2Mad:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr:Grrr

The engine ECU change was in \'96 (so series 7 & 8 cars need the \'16 bit\' Apexi ECU).  However the ABS ecu was changed from 8 to 16 bit in Sep 2000.  (According to http://www.rx7.net.nz/fd-jp-models.html ).  That link doesn\'t mention any bodyshell changes, I wonder if they relate to the extra cooling apertures in the nosecone?  ("The front-end\'s opening areas have also been increased by factors of 2.1 for the radiator opening, 1.8 for the intercooler duct, 1.8 for the oil cooler, and 1.6 for the front brake cooling duct intake over the previous RX-7." - http://www.fd3s.net/history.html#ENG )

- anyway, probably best to be guided by what Pip says, if he thinks it would be too difficult to rebuild a series 8 car in an earlier shell then that option moves off the menu, I guess, since it\'s rare to find series 8 bare shells.