i know the market is dead the fd is gonna go but whats it worth

Started by cyman, October 13, 2012, 04:31:25 PM

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cyman

so this year i have used the fd less than ever what with a young family and a small business ive missed so many meets and track days its gutting. and with all the upgrades ive done to the car this year i just cant spare the time for the rx7 anymore.
 
so with the market so dead it looks like i will have to put this on pistonheads and ebay aswell as the usual forums but what should i ask and what should i expect to get. and before anyone asks im not breaking it :)
 
rotechnics built large street ported engine with around 15k on it (i will be getting comp test)
full aspec 500r turbo kit fitted this year with plumbed in wastegate, can be seen here http://www.a-spectuning.com/html/products/gt500r.htm
stainless braided turbo oil feed
550cc primary and 1640 secondary injectors in billet bitz rail
sard fpr
new coil packs
hks twin spark
new r7420 ngk plugs
re wired fuel pump
re wired ignition
bosch 044 fuel pump
greddy 3 core front mount
custom ic pipework with bov
koyo high capacity ally rad
solid nylon engine mounts
re worx silenced mid pipe
lower temp fc fan sensor
racing inlet air temp sensor
greddy inlet elbow
apexi pfc and commander
brand new feed cat back fitted 10 miles ago
greddy profec boost controller
stainless ast
carbonetic triple plate carbon clutch with lightened flywheel done less than 2k
recon gearbox fitted beginning of year less than 2k done
 
 
suspension and brakes
 
full ohlins coilovers
pillow ball top mounts (rear pillow bushes are brand new from japan)
nitron spring fitted 450lb front 400lb rear
racing beat anti rollbars all round with brace at front
feed front strut brace
new pillow balls throughout - some rear ones are the motorsport spec atomicrex upgrades
full poly bush all round some of which are black motorsport grade
18 " rota d1 alloys 8.5 front 9.5 rear
like new federal rsr 265 rear and 225 falken 452,s on the front
ksport 356mm 8 pot front brakes
braided lines all round
rz rear brake conversion with grooved discs
hawk pads on rear
ferodo ds2500 on front
master cylinder stopper
rbf600 racing fluid
feed rose joint track rod ends
 
 
bodywork
 
full original re amemiya gt kit - bumper,engine undertray,wings,skirts,rear arches
carbon fibre original re amemiya ad9 bonnet (sprayed black)
seibon carbon fibre wing
concept 7 headlight conversion
concept 7 rear duck tail
carbon kick plates (not yet fitted)
feed carbon look door handles (not the covers)
 
 
inside
 
mazdaspeed drivers seat
leather passenger seat
smaller flat bottomed steering wheel
decent pioneer stereo with infinity speakers and slim pioneer sub
later plastics all round inc door cards
 
the car went straight through an mot 4 weeks ago
was recently mapped and setup by jaydee.
2 weeks ago had full 4 wheel alignment to fast road/track settings
 
after having an issue last year with noise levels at castle coombe i fitted the brand new feed silence cat back which runs below 95db this means the car is currently setup and running around 450fwhp with the 550 primary injectors for decent cruising and maners around town. with the current turbo setup though this is a 500bhp+ (see the turbo link above) setup that would only require a louder free flowing exhaust the 850cc primaries putting back in (these will come with the car) and to be safe a 3 bar map sensor with water inj
 
this is a very sorted car with just the usual tinkering that these cars need.
 
i will also be chucking in some spares which include 2 diffuser one re a pro and one re a street both copies i just havent got round to fitting
 
heres some pics
 





 
and if anyone has a nice porsche cayman s they want to get rid of i will happily trade this against it :)


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Grant Monkhouse

i would say get it up for sale for 6500 but dont expect much more than 5500 as people want a lot for nothing. only way your going to make money would be to break it

cyman

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;838257i would say get it up for sale for 6500 but dont expect much more than 5500 as people want a lot for nothing. only way your going to make money would be to break it

even in todays market for this spec of 7 that is give a away price
 
just so you are aware to import a full original re a gt kit is around £2.5k plus duties and delivery
the triple plate carbonetics clutch is over £2k on its own
the turbo kit is around £2.5k
 
now i know you cant expect to get anywhere near original money for these itmes but im just showing you the type of spec this car is

Grant Monkhouse

yep but if you have to sell it then to sell it quick you got to price it right. if you want the right money then your going to have to wait to sell it.
 
in reality you could buy a car with blown engine for close to a grand and for another 6-8 grand have a 500+ car with a 2 year warrenty

lee mills

As much as it pains me to say it the only way youll get anywhere near a reasonable price is to break it.
 Unfortunately nobody wants to spend the money for decent versions of these cars anymore which is the only thing stopping me from selling mine.
They seem to be content with buying cheap crap for 2k then blame it on the fact its a rotary when stuff goes wrong.

787b

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;838260yep but if you have to sell it then to sell it quick you got to price it right. if you want the right money then your going to have to wait to sell it.
 
in reality you could buy a car with blown engine for close to a grand and for another 6-8 grand have a 500+ car with a 2 year warrenty

your right :Thumbs-up

boosted

Got to say mate.....your car is totally stunning and a real credit to you !
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

cyman

you could not build a car to the same spec as mine for 8k on top of a blown motor. you would prob have to make that closer to 15k on it.
 
im not sure of your maths anyway
 
isnt a warrantied ported engine 3k minimum these days
triple plate clutch 2k
2nd hand decent turbo kit 1.2k
un painted cheap copy of this bodykit is over £1200 but needs hours and hours of fitting and mods to make it even close to an original plus paint
full decent ohlins setup min of £600
2nd hand ksport front brakes with decent pads is £700
bonnet £500
rz rear brakes £300
 
thats nearly 10k there without everything else this car has.
 
unfortunatley you seem to be of the opinion that you can do an rx7 properly on the cheap  but there is a difference between PROPERLY and CHEAP and this car was done properly

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: 787b;838262your right :Thumbs-up
i know, im always right even when im wrong im right, because i still could have been right

787b

mate your fd is awesome and has proper parts on it ,the problem is the market is dead and prices have come down and people are still not buying,

for example if you had your car up at let say £9995 you could be lucky and get that amount depends on who is buying , but its down to luck most people will look  at the same stuff for sale on here and fduk ebay etc and if its cheaper they will go for something else most of the time, alot of cars have come down in price

a well spec single turbo could go between £6000 to £8000 these days
twins can be picked up from £3000 to £8000

you could break car and make alot more but it all depends .

as mentioned before put a price you think its worth and see what happens you could get want you want for it or you could be waiting a long time or it could sell straight away its all down to who is buying and where its advertised.:Thumbs-up

roborangefd3s

keep it, wot else u guna do for fun? tried to sell mine but its too depressing and its silly to give it away.

samoht

Ohlins, Ksport, Greddy... no question, that\'s a lot of high-end parts and it would cost a bomb to build another car up to the same spec.

The thing is, it\'s a pretty extreme car
- extreme power (compared to anything normal)
- extreme chassis (coilovers & polybushes - how\'s it like to live with?)
- extreme bodywork (front canards and rear wing are visually pretty OTT, albeit they could shave seconds from laptimes)
- extreme running costs

So you\'re looking for someone who
wants a very serious performance car,
AND wants a rotary,
AND likes your particular bodykit,
AND has £8-10k to spend on a \'toy\' (plus money for fuel, parts etc).
- how many people like that are there around ?

It would make sense for someone with a more standard FD, who wanted a 500hp trackday car, to trade up to yours rather than totally overhauling their own car.  However, people tend to tune their own car rather than doing that, regardless of financial logic.

I guess such a person might be able to sell their own car for £4-5k, so you might get £7-8k for your car ?

For the best price, I suggest
- I guess the suspension is adjusted to max ride height in the pics?  Get it wound down so it looks good and get some more pics.
- Much better, and more, pics.  Think about how magazines feature cars, shots showing off all the expensive parts, etc - make yours look like a mag feature, even if you can\'t get one.
- Rolling road run showing 500bhp+, along with torque, AFR.  If you\'re asking someone to spend big money, you need to prove the numbers, not just talk about \'capable of\'.
- Recent compression test (obv)

cyman

Quote from: samoht;838271Ohlins, Ksport, Greddy... no question, that\'s a lot of high-end parts and it would cost a bomb to build another car up to the same spec.
 
The thing is, it\'s a pretty extreme car
- extreme power (compared to anything normal)
- extreme chassis (coilovers & polybushes - how\'s it like to live with?)
- extreme bodywork (front canards and rear wing are visually pretty OTT, albeit they could shave seconds from laptimes)
- extreme running costs
 
So you\'re looking for someone who
wants a very serious performance car,
AND wants a rotary,
AND likes your particular bodykit,
AND has £8-10k to spend on a \'toy\' (plus money for fuel, parts etc).
- how many people like that are there around ?
 
It would make sense for someone with a more standard FD, who wanted a 500hp trackday car, to trade up to yours rather than totally overhauling their own car. However, people tend to tune their own car rather than doing that, regardless of financial logic.
 
I guess such a person might be able to sell their own car for £4-5k, so you might get £7-8k for your car ?
 
For the best price, I suggest
- I guess the suspension is adjusted to max ride height in the pics? Get it wound down so it looks good and get some more pics.
- Much better, and more, pics. Think about how magazines feature cars, shots showing off all the expensive parts, etc - make yours look like a mag feature, even if you can\'t get one.
- Rolling road run showing 500bhp+, along with torque, AFR. If you\'re asking someone to spend big money, you need to prove the numbers, not just talk about \'capable of\'.
- Recent compression test (obv)

the car is setup for fast road as well as track hence keeping the ride height at a decent height, there is much more adjustment up or down if wanted.
when i sell it i will be getting more pics done this is just for opinions
i wont run it to 500bhp as thats not my aim but giving people the info that the setup is ready for that makes sense to me
comp test is a given
 
the car is extreme which is what most people wanting an rx7 are looking for this is the upper end of the scale which as anyone doing and rx7 properly doesnt come cheap.