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[gsb876]

Some good info there Brian cheers:)

[20B_boy]

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
450 fwhp is 368 rwhp
450 rwhp is 548 fwhp

Some interesting dyno-related reading here:

http://tinyurl.com/46vfq

and here:

http://tinyurl.com/6sg3t

including the inadequacies of \'calculating\' FWHP from RWHP.

[Carl]

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Some interesting dyno-related reading here:

http://tinyurl.com/46vfq

and here:

http://tinyurl.com/6sg3t

including the inadequacies of \'calculating\' FWHP from RWHP.

Well said Rich,
That is entirely true from experience.
Kind regards
Carl

[20B_boy]

The coast down bit having seen a couple of RX7 and Supra sheets from these kind of dynos looks about right i.e. rubbish! The losses they seem to compute are amazing??

Basically you have to ensure as many of the numerous variables are the same or as close as poss to make the best of its measuring capabilities, I guess we all realise that. Its tuning tool first and foremost. In order to get any meaningful comparative power measruements you HAVE to ensure all variables are maintained as closely as poss. Other wise you get rubbish out the other end

[Rixio]

so cost wise to get around 450rwhp how much would i be looking at...i.e turbo kit cost porting engine rebuild and fitting etc etc for me to give some1 the car and say i want this doing from start to finish how much would it be?

rixio:wave

[bnaellis]

If it\'s to be done properly I have just totaled up 13,000 big ones.
Which is why I always state it\'s alot cheaper to buy one already singing and dancing unless you want to spend serious money for a serious machine.

rgds

[Rixio]

hmm i cant afford 13k no chance!!! defo worth buying a singled one straight from japan. but the thing i was worried about was if i get one...what wud the condition of the engine be like??but it looks like its the jap one for me thx for all the advice peeps

[Carl]

Hi Rixio,
Brian does get some nice cars in from Japan.
It maybe the cheaper option.

As to getting a full single turbo conversion done on a car with a rebuild too it may cost as much as Brian said or maybe not if you get some of the parts secondhand,which they will also likely be on a car from Japan.
If you were to buy a car here that needs a rebuild for say around £3000.00 and allow around £2500.00 for the secondhand turbo kit,£1000.00 for a decent intercooler setup,Injector kit and fuel pump and regulator for say£500.00 and add the engine rebuild price of say £2500-£4000.00 depending on what\'s done you then have a total of around £9000-£10500 for a car with a fresh engine.
You would probably want to budget for a bit extra say £1000.00 for odd partslike ECU if needed but that would give a reasonable ball park.
Some of my prices for parts are more than they neccessarily need to be but include some labour as well for fitting.
These are a very rough guideline so it may well still be better to buy one of Brian\'s nice ready to run cars.And as I said earlier,Brian does sell some very tasty machines.
Kind regards
Carl

[bnaellis]

Hi Carl,

The total really does add up. You got twin plate clutch to handle the power, ignition amp if running higher boost, upgraded ht leads, boost controller, just these few parts here can cost 2k without the labour for fitting.

rgds
Brian

Originally posted by Carl
Hi Rixio,
Brian does get some nice cars in from Japan.
It maybe the cheaper option.

As to getting a full single turbo conversion done on a car with a rebuild too it may cost as much as Brian said or maybe not if you get some of the parts secondhand,which they will also likely be on a car from Japan.
If you were to buy a car here that needs a rebuild for say around £3000.00 and allow around £2500.00 for the secondhand turbo kit,£1000.00 for a decent intercooler setup,Injector kit and fuel pump and regulator for say£500.00 and add the engine rebuild price of say £2500-£4000.00 depending on what\'s done you then have a total of around £9000-£10500 for a car with a fresh engine.
You would probably want to budget for a bit extra say £1000.00 for odd partslike ECU if needed but that would give a reasonable ball park.
Some of my prices for parts are more than they neccessarily need to be but include some labour as well for fitting.
These are a very rough guideline so it may well still be better to buy one of Brian\'s nice ready to run cars.And as I said earlier,Brian does sell some very tasty machines.
Kind regards
Carl

[Carl]

Hi Brian,
Single plate clutches that have an uprated pressure plate have proved to be quite adequate for an engine of this power if they are looked after.
That would be considerably cheaper than a twin plate.Maybe £250.00
I have some big hp engines that are not running ignition amplifiers,not convinced as yet that they are needed.
Boost controller may come with a secondhand turbo.
A very good one that is top of the range is the "E" Boost,it is £300.00 new.

As I said earlier though Brian,it would still probably be just as well for Rixio or anyone to come to you or one of the other importers like Miguel for a very nice ready to roll car with most if not all of the work done.
Don\'t forget that my figures are for a fresh engine though.
Kind regards
Carl