Fao Freddy - T51r / T88 Pics

[bnaellis]

t51r will normally be prefered to the t88 as the t88 is old technology. T51r is more modern  and much lighter than the t88 and spools quicker than the t88 and has better newer blade design etc etc.
I\'m not saying this just because I have a t51r it\'s just the truth.

rgds

[Freddy]

I am overly serious about huge power gains. Nothing to comete with in rotorstock. Just to see off some top marques However, I\'d rather stay with old school turbo\'s as they are probably more easier for tuners to deal with and proven to work. Or are there people with the roller bearing turbo\'s running quick times.

Brian, I hear you have a beast of a T51r in the making. Hope its going well. I had been told that the T51 actually spools later than a T88. Is it an agreed overall concensus then that the T51R is superior by far?

[bnaellis]

I wouldn\'t say superior by far but greddy t88 is an old school tubro produces crazy power the t51 is similar but is modern alot lighter internals hence quicker spool up and produces similar power. No two ways about it both are monster turbo kits on an fd. As far as spool time is concerned that willalways vary from car to car as the type of porting you have makes big difference to spool up especially on big turbo\'s like these as does tuning but t51r will quicker than a t88.

rgds

[Iwan]

G\'day from Germany,

from my little knowledge they are few types of T51

T51 = Old turbo
T51R = was on market after T51 (I think)
T51R-KAI = this is one of the "modern- turbo" but still on old school bearing.
T51R-SPL BB = ball bearing type which is the latest version.

T51R-SPL or T51 R-KAI are common setups in Japan for Drag. Cars with T51R-KAI or SPL  get better results as cars with T88-33D.
Both setups are made for drag only, so track cars are often equipped with TD07-25G or smaller Mitsu turbo TD06. Only one turbo can be found on track cars as well on drag cars, the T04R.

In my opinion both setups T88 or T51 are not usable for daily driving. T51R-KAI and SPL version are water cooled core, so this is better for German Autobahn.

REgards
Iwan

[bnaellis]

you have t51r kai bb also.

rgds

[Rixio]

so if i was looking for a moderate/high single turbo conversion what wud be the best choice to go for as in around 450bhp but i wudnt want the lag time sooo long i took a drive in a t78 single before i got mine and that was fast but had alot of wheelspin even in dry because the turbo didnt fully spool up until around 3&3/4 - 4k so u had to control it aswell as give it gas to get anwhere. my bros running a t78 in his supra which is shit fast when driving it really puts u in the back of ur seat and hardly spins out(unless u try to) but when i raced it with the rx its relativly slow? probs because of the weight issue, dont get me rong he leaves me after a while but i can still keep up a fair bit and aint that far behind. so what would be the best and what kind of times wud i be lookin at 1/4 mile wise? and depending on the power gains how much would i have to spend on the rx cos i know my bros bill for the supra was near £8k but that was including interior mods aswell new racing seats and alloys etc

[Rixio]

any1 have the answer to the above question??^^^^

Rixio:wave

[gsb876]

Maybe a T04R???

Makes good power without too much lag, although i do favour the T78 to be honest Rixio;)

[bobster]

The blades on the T51r SPL are also larger than on the KAI units

[Rixio]

g dawg how long does it take for ur turbo to fully spool up what revs is it at? and how much did it cost u do get it done or did u buy it like that?


rixio:wave

[gsb876]

The T78 was already on matey, takes up to 4500 - 5500 revs to really start going!!!;)

[Carl]

If you are looking for a 450hp turbo then a GT 35/40 would work well.If setup correctly it starts to spool well by 3000 rpm all the way to the redline.
Kind regards
Carl

[bnaellis]

Originally posted by Rixio
so if i was looking for a moderate/high single turbo conversion what wud be the best choice to go for as in around 450bhp but i wudnt want the lag time sooo long i took a drive in a t78 single before i got mine and that was fast but had alot of wheelspin even in dry because the turbo didnt fully spool up until around 3&3/4 - 4k so u had to control it aswell as give it gas to get anwhere. my bros running a t78 in his supra which is shit fast when driving it really puts u in the back of ur seat and hardly spins out(unless u try to) but when i raced it with the rx its relativly slow? probs because of the weight issue, dont get me rong he leaves me after a while but i can still keep up a fair bit and aint that far behind. so what would be the best and what kind of times wud i be lookin at 1/4 mile wise? and depending on the power gains how much would i have to spend on the rx cos i know my bros bill for the supra was near £8k but that was including interior mods aswell new racing seats and alloys etc

Is that 450bhp at the rear wheels or flywheel?

rgds

[Rixio]

well preferably at rw how much is the loss if 450 at fly compared to rw?? ack its gona cost me too much i might aswell get another one like i planned anyways but i wana get one that doesnt give soo much lag. carl have you got any more details of that setup cos i could look for one like that specifically or i can get this veilside c2 t78 one thats coming next month

rixio:wave

[bnaellis]

Originally posted by Rixio
well preferably at rw how much is the loss if 450 at fly compared to rw?? ack its gona cost me too much i might aswell get another one like i planned anyways but i wana get one that doesnt give soo much lag. carl have you got any more details of that setup cos i could look for one like that specifically or i can get this veilside c2 t78 one thats coming next month

rixio:wave

450 fwhp is 368 rwhp
450 rwhp is 548 fwhp
Don\'t just look at a turbo to achieve those figures, you want a good engine i.e good compression first and foremost and good porting, this makes all the difference. for 450 rwhp without much lag a to4r with .96 a/r should do the job as would to4z with 1.0 a/r along with various other turbo\'s and setups.

rgds