Top Gear

[jetpilot]

New series starts tonight, should be a good one, Aventador, MP12C and Noble M600

[B.Martin]

Damn Cyprus for not having uk tv.

[Will66]

I\'m looking forward to this but I think it\'s getting stale.  The challenges are getting repetitive, their incessant jingoism and assured ignorance is getting a bit thin.

[jetpilot]

I\'m looking forward to this but I think it\'s getting stale.  The challenges are getting repetitive, their incessant jingoism and assured ignorance is getting a bit thin.

Agreed, i found the xmas special very dull and to a lesser degree, last years three wise men one, all previous ones very funny! I know the old feature lengths or specials always had staged events, but they seemed so much more real, like they were generally not trying to entertain, just 3 guys having a laugh and being idiots!

It would however be very difficult to change the direction too much as that just wouldnt be Top Gear and as we all know, they are the ones everyone tries to emulate! I would certainly like to loose star in a reasonable priced car as that is just very very old now!

I hope their challenges through the series are equally as entertaining, but not going "too far" in trying to be funny!

[fil_auto]

Yep, cannot wait

[Grant Monkhouse]

The Xmas special wasn\'t special at all. Very disappointed.

The series will be good in my eyes so long as there is expensive cars I will never have, loads of noise, tyre smoking and general arsing around like idiots and clarkson saying the things which people are thinking.

Some things are getting reptative but they still haven\'t had a challenge where the car has been beaten with clarkson driving it.

[Will66]

I take it all back, my youthful enthusiasm for mental supercars going fast has overcome my cynicism, maxing a trio of gnarly mid-engined supercars at the Nardo speed bowl is exactly what it should they have on Top Gear, cue the smokey powerslides.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Boom. Top gear back on its A game!!

[jetpilot]

Awesome episode!

Laughed my socks of at the start with "chinese stig"

A lot of p*ss taking of Hammond, and rightly so for taking a Noble with a price tag of £228K!!!!!!!!

[Grant Monkhouse]

All great cars. I would have the Lamborghini over the Ferrari and the other 2 any day.

[Brett]

I actually really enjoyed it - which is a good thing

(A lot of recent episodes have been pretty bland IMO)

[Will66]

To be honest, if Top Gear can\'t make 1800 bhp of mid-engined supercar seem exciting then it\'s a lost cause!

[jetpilot]

To be honest, if Top Gear can\'t make 1800 bhp of mid-engined supercar seem exciting then it\'s a lost cause!

I think you have to give them a bit of praise tbh! Give those cars to say 5th gear and you would have Potato, Needel and Henderson scrabbling round a track and thats about it and perhaps those 2 other nerds discussing something completely random in the vein attempt at trying to be clever!

Going round the speed bowl took some balls imho and when they were at Imola they were definitely pushing the limits!

TG is a victim of its own success, we all expect every episode to have us laughing out loud or revealing in their adventures! I agree that on some terms that if they cant entertain us with those cars, they are doomed to failure, but think they got it spot on! I think there would have been a lot more action had the Noble not broken down, they did almost a days filling whilst the Noble was out of action.

Only thing i would have liked to have seen is what time Stig could have posted against the 458, but Clarkson got pretty close! Not bad for a fat, old motoring journalist! Heck, even May was giving it some beans!

[Will66]

Top Gear is way more entertaining than 5th Gear, they\'d have just oversteered round Castle Combe and Tiff would have bemoaned understeer in the 4 wheel drive Lambo and the fact that the Mclaren wouldn\'t let him powerslide.  They would have then made a spurious comparison to racing car or something and then gone home.  

Nardo was awesome, I like the fact they genuinely maxed some mean machinery at a gnarly track was cool, both at Nardo and Imola.

[jetpilot]

It is definitely an interesting current topic it seems from chat i have seen on other forums!

The 458 is a technical master piece, gorgeous looking too and the benchmark. Interesting to see how other brands go about it with the 4x4 (Lambo), sheer power and old school approach (Noble) or the similarly technical Maclaren.

I had quite a raging debate on Pistonheads with fans of the Noble, even at that stage the Noble was supposed to be around £200k, up from the original estimates of £125K. I actually dont get the Noble, big hp and rwd is nothing special and can see no way it justifies a price tag of £228k, i dont even think its pretty like the 458 or Mc or just mad like the Lambo! I get the point it takes driving back to basics, as Hamster said, like a modern day F40, but if you want your cars raw and basic, you can get that for a lot less than the Noble, Ultima for example!

So what would you guys choose out of the 4?