Speed Camera vans!!!

[wolfie1]

the coolest plate i have ever seen was k1nky, there is also a porsche going about and the plate reads gr34sy i think (i know its meant to say greasy). like that fast car 1 :Thumbs-up

[fil_auto]

For me, JET BOY, for sure :yes

A curious topic. I have always pondered the regs and usual strict enforcement of number plate characters/spacing etc. If you saw a car speeding by, if you were Police, what are you more likely to remember, and this is plate from round my way, FA57 CAR or FAST CAR or another JET 80Y or JETBOY?

[B.Martin]

Some one must own AR07 ARY (AROT ARY)? That would be rather epic.

[Skifledanabit]

the flash of red will be the infra-red, its only visible in the right place, I.E, when looking at it straight on, hence why it looked like it flashed.

ANPR cameras always have it on, although its more prominent at night when it needs more infra red to view the plates.

everything is done by numberplates now, its all linked to the DVLA database saying if you have tax or not or any outstanding warrants etc etc, so your tax disc is nothing but a piece of paper.

as long as you have a legal numberplate displayed at the front and rear of your vehicle, you can\'t get done, but if you have wrong font or sizes, you could get done for it if the copper is having a bad day.

as with the speed, its all about something called the eighty fifth percentile, whereby its the speed limit, add 15% and thats the limit they use for prosecution or not, so in a 30mph zone the eighty fifth percentile will be 34.5mph, generally they don\'t pull anyone going 35mph, but again, get a copper on a bad day and he may try and make it stick.

if you get people moaning about being done for going 31mph in a 30 zone, its usually because they were going 36mph. It\'s to allow differences in speedos etc (ever wonder why your speedo is set to show 30mph where you may only be doing 27mph on your satnav...?)

[jetpilot]

An interesting point, what do you really rely on more when driving, gps speed readings or speedo? I know i should trust my gps reading more, so in theory on my daily which is a Delica, when my gps shows 50 mph, my speedo actually shows about 54 - 55 mph, so with the above theory implied you could assume that it will only flash at 57.5 mph! I would imagine its more like 10%, so lets say 55 mph, at that speed on gps my speedo would show about 58 - 59 mph!

I havent got the bottle to travel through with the speedo showing 58 mph, although i am absolutely positive the gps reading will be more accurate.

I have also been driving down a motorway at 80mph showing on the speedo, satnav showing 71mph and seen a Police car, slowed to match their speed, 70 on the speedo, again i havent got the bottle to go past at the more accurate satnav reading!

[Skifledanabit]

Nope, it\'s 15%, trust me, it\'s what I do for a living. Why do you reckon theres been a whole big thing in the news lately about changing the limit to 80 because the police rarely pull over anyone going between 70-80mph

[jetpilot]

Nope, it\'s 15%, trust me, it\'s what I do for a living. Why do you reckon theres been a whole big thing in the news lately about changing the limit to 80 because the police rarely pull over anyone going between 70-80mph

So a fixed camera on a 50, wont go off till 57.5 mph and average speed also a5 50 mph wont prosecute unless your average is over 57.5 mpg?

[RobMatthews]

I\'ve read up on a few of these things(and it may be wrong but),
If the limit is 30 then 30 is the law,no if\'s no buts.
Its up to each constabulary to decide how much over they will allow somebody to go on certain roads befor prosecution.
So one constabulary say here in cornwall for instance may decide to allow 4mph over the limit befor prosecution, where as a constabulary in essex may be more tighter and prosecute if your doing 31.
Number one rule if you do get pulled is be the nicest person in the world and honest, if you were speeding your had, its how you play the last moments that you may just be able to dig yourself out the hole, if your polite and seemingly remorsefull you may just get a b@llicking at the side of the road, if you start questioning them telling them are are wrong and start churning out a tale, they will just write you out their ticket.

That said if your done automatically thats it!

Ash I was only joking in post 7 about them crushing cars for no numberplate lol- well afaik anyway :-)

[B.Martin]

Your right Rob, your attitude is definately the key influencer most of the time.

Secondly, i\'m pretty sure your allowed 10% nothing more.

[Skifledanabit]

Fixed cameras i\'m not sure on, as they use electric loops in the road, but radar and average speed cameras, yeah, 57.5mph.

I\'ve been working as a traffic surveyor since I was 12, so 12 years later, I\'ve picked a few bits up. Not sure how things work on the police/enforcement side of things, but I know when we do the surveys for camera sites, they use the eighty-fifth percentile for "wiggle room".

But, knowing this doesn\'t mean I won\'t make sure I\'m going 30mph through a 30 camera. It\'s a dark art, especially when money grabbing, thieving government flanges are concerned.

[jayra]

I always thought it was 10% plus 2, anymore and youll get pulled. So 30 would be 35, 70 would be 79 etc. The rule ive always used anyway lol.

[Will66]

According to my mate the Copper, 10% plus two is the current guidance on issuing fixed penalty notices for exceeding the limit from the Crown Prosecution Service, however there\'s leeway for Police discretion and interpretation within those.  For instance, you may get away with 80-85 on a quiet bit of motorway however you\'re probably going to get a ticket for 31 in a 30 limit near a school at going-home time.  They\'re also more likely to consider pursuing things like "Driving without due care and attention" if you\'re caught speeding near schools or other pedestrian-heavy urban areas.

[ash-fd95]

the flash of red will be the infra-red, its only visible in the right place, I.E, when looking at it straight on, hence why it looked like it flashed.

So it probably didnt flash me? Well i\'ll find out soon enough if it did

[Skifledanabit]

no it wouldn\'t, they don\'t need to flash, the infra-red may of increased in power somewhat to compensate for the glare of your lights and because it didnt have anything to reflect off of (I.E. numberplate).