health and vitamins/supplements

[RobMatthews]

Anyone on here know much about vitamin/immune supplements?

Basic story is this; Since just befor christmas i started getting easily tired and quickly out of energy and having to stop in the afternoons for a \'powernap\'. after a few weeks i started getting a very slight ache in my abdomen and ocasionaly feeling sick/vomiting inc passing out several times.
By feb i couldn\'t work so got two weeks off to rest and hoped to get back after that-how wrong i was! first week went to the doc he done the usual first round of blood tests,- nothing unusual billyrubin in the liver was slightly high so seen the specialist about that who after a few tests put it down to something called gilberts disease which is just where the red blood cells arnt broken down propperly leaving a yellow pigment in the blood which shows in the eyes and skin but nothing to worry about and not a contributing factor in why im always so tired and ill.

Fast forward 6 months, Im still off work, the ache in my abdomen has become a pain, which the doc cant find a cause for, he\'s done all the blood tests they can unless they find something more specific to test for, i\'ve had chest x rays, abdomen x ray, ultrasound on stomach,liver,splien etc in my abdomen. tried various tablets for diferent things \'doc hoping\' to find something with them lol.

They have basically now given up on me and hope it sorts itself out through my own body immune system and labled me as cronically fatege.

To top it all off i have to spend MY savings to carry on living/food/rent/car tax/mot etc because i have to much in savings(over £5500) was more for a house deposit, that the goverment think i should spend first befor i get any help from them!My blood boils, anyway that last bit was a bit off topic and just a rant.


So to get well again and back to work im on my own and its up to me and my body to sort it out!

So anybody know about vitamins and supplements to help boost my energy and help my bodys immune system recover?

Im already eating mostly healthy:mmmm and exercise as much as i can without pushing myself to far, mostly a walk everyday or a few hours on the fd

[RyanT]

My advise to you is dont take supplements. I know people with some really adverse side effects from items you can buy in places like holland and barrett.  Your best bet is too look into natural diet too help. I know a lot of people will probably disagree with that but when you actually know of side effects to people you know it soon changes your oppinion. I used to try most things but now stay away completely.

I would go to a private doctors as there worth the money when it comes to your health. And look into a balanced a mixed diet making sure you get enough calories throughout the day.

[Jojo]

Have u had any significant weight gain or loss (without trying obviously)?

[turbo boy]

I would get a second opinion then a third opinion from different doctors, if its one thing this country harvests and thats cowboy doctors.
 As for your general health i would look in to excersising more, running, cycling weight training is also good.
Cut back on your drinking and smoking too if you do that of course.

[steve garbutt]

My wife had similar abdominal pains accompanied with other symptoms.
No doctors or specialist could find anything wrong, and even though the tests showed she wasnt intolerant to any foods she took it upon herself to cut out certain foods/additives.
She is now much better years later.

So i would look at your diet and try cutting certain foods that cause upset.

[RobMatthews]

I tried cutting out dairy, then wheat for a while etc

dont drink or smoke

jojo been up and down a few pounds nothing exciting, im 6ft 1 just under 15 stone

As to exercise thats a tough circle at the moment, just walking for a mile becomes hard work and i\'ll start feeling sick, and out of energy which then lasts a few days...

I do eat fairly healthy with veg and fruit everyday

[RyanT]

Start by checking your daily calorie intake and writing it down. some people don\'t realise what there consuming and if there\'s enough variety.

[Grant Monkhouse]

Supplements are only really necessary to boost something your not getting in your diet.

However taking a multiple vitamin tablet twice a day won\'t do any harm. I used to take them and it made me feel better in general. I think you get a psychological boost from them too because you are thinking you are taking something that will help you feel better. Multivitamins are cheap too. Can be bought from your supermarket.

[Paul-Tll]

Please just get back to the Doctors from what you are saying. Make a bit of a fuss I\'m sure they will listen once you back a second time.
I had very similar, and now just come out of Hospital with a Heart valve repair this week.
 I\'m sure your ok but I had no idea, and thought I was fit apart from tiredness and being light headed.
Book yourself in tomorow, you know things are not right because you wouldn\'t come on here and say as you have. Listen to your own body its trying to tell you something.
Good luck for tomorow and fingers crossed for you its ony a minor thing:wave
Paul

[Lacey]

As to exercise thats a tough circle at the moment, just walking for a mile becomes hard work and i\'ll start feeling sick, and out of energy which then lasts a few days...

Out of curiosity, do you eat meat at all? Red mean in particular?

The tiredness symptoms you\'re describing sound like lack or iron in your diet, which I get as I don\'t eat meats so can relate to how you feel.

Unless you\'re like me and you don\'t eat meat, try and introduce some more red meat into your diet to boost your levels of iron and see if that gives you a little more energy.

[RobMatthews]

lacey, yes love meat i\'ll have a steak once a week, mince in a speggetti bolinase, steak pastys, roast beef on a sunday etc

paul, how did they find your problem? i\'ve been going to the docs since feb! usually once a week sometime once every two weeks i\'ve had chest xrays and that came up with nothing also the docs (seen several now) have listened on the heart but found nothing.

I did wonder in the beginning if it was my heart as I would be most relaxed/not doing anything, maybe sat watching tv or standing just talking to someone and i would get a rush like an adreniline hit come up through my body from my waist up into my head then feel queesy, and light headed also passed out several times back in feb/march time to.

Im on here cause the docs have checked all the organs and said they cant find nothing wrong so its now up to me to find something wrong wether in my diet or somewhere else

[Lacey]

lacey, yes love meat i\'ll have a steak once a week, mince in a speggetti bolinase, steak pastys, roast beef on a sunday etc

paul, how did they find your problem? i\'ve been going to the docs since feb! usually once a week sometime once every two weeks i\'ve had chest xrays and that came up with nothing also the docs (seen several now) have listened on the heart but found nothing.

I did wonder in the beginning if it was my heart as I would be most relaxed/not doing anything, maybe sat watching tv or standing just talking to someone and i would get a rush like an adreniline hit come up through my body from my waist up into my head then feel queesy, and light headed also passed out several times back in feb/march time to.

Im on here cause the docs have checked all the organs and said they cant find nothing wrong so its now up to me to find something wrong wether in my diet or somewhere else

Sounds a little more than just diet if I\'m honest Rob.

The tiredness etc could be down to diet, the sudden rushes of adrenaline and feeling sick could possibly be your blood sugar level, or even your blood pressure, but I would hope that when you went for a physical, your blood pressure is one of the first things they would have checked over.

Honestly given what you said in your last post I really would urge you to go back to your doctor and express your concerns. Either that, or get a second opinion (most surgeries have more than one doctor), in my whole life of being in/out of doctors/hospitals with my cacked knees etc I\'ve only ever had 2 doctors I didn\'t dislike who would actually listen to me properly, out of the maybe 30+ I\'ve seen over the past 14 odd years.

So my advise would be go back to the doctors, maybe see a new / different doctor, and get another opinion. Professionals will usually be better than forum posts (I say usually as you never know who on MRC is actually in the medical profession)

[kiwimazda]

I don\'t want to scare you but..... Over the last 12 months my sister inlaw has not been well at all. Several attempts with the  doctor until 3 weeks ago. The symptoms and what is wrong is nothing like yours, worse infact. We are now preparing for the worst and trying to get things in place for her 3 kids to have the best of what time they have left with their mum.
Once again her symptoms were nothing like and totally different to yours but we in my house now have a lot to deal with.
Please get it seen too and give the doc a jolly good thrashing basil fawlty style if they won\'t do anything.


Brian

[Grant Monkhouse]

Out of curiosity, do you eat meat at all? Red mean in particular?

The tiredness symptoms you\'re describing sound like lack or iron in your diet, which I get as I don\'t eat meats so can relate to how you feel.

Unless you\'re like me and you don\'t eat meat, try and introduce some more red meat into your diet to boost your levels of iron and see if that gives you a little more energy.

So how do you get iron in your diet Lacey without eating red meat? Go and lick the rust off your FC? hehehehe

[kiwimazda]

Spinach. It\'s full of it. I can feel it when I eat it. All the little iron filings. Either that or I haven\'t washed it properly.