What a Trip to WGT

Started by Mir, July 25, 2011, 07:17:30 PM

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rbs14a

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;778376Im personally hoping that you can beat Craigs twin turbo v8 as that the only comparison we have for rival power, even though i really like Craigs car

really?? what about mine and james willdays car? craigs will be nearer 1000hp than 800hp:rolleyes:

tinker-27

Mine has already done over 800@ wheels , I\'m only using wastage pressure on the road at the moment (722@ wheels) and that\'s enough for he road !!!!! Going back to the dyno to map the top end now I\'ve got the correct plugs in it , going to run 1bar and see what it does . I\'m not going to push it to hard at the moment as I don\'t want to break it yet , looks like there are some really powerful cars around at he moment ! ,

rbs14a

Quote from: tinker-27;780094Mine has already done over 800@ wheels , I\'m only using wastage pressure on the road at the moment (722@ wheels) and that\'s enough for he road !!!!! Going back to the dyno to map the top end now I\'ve got the correct plugs in it , going to run 1bar and see what it does . I\'m not going to push it to hard at the moment as I don\'t want to break it yet , looks like there are some really powerful cars around at he moment ! ,

your just showing off now, will you be attending rotorstock?

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: rbs14a;780086really?? what about mine and james willdays car? craigs will be nearer 1000hp than 800hp:rolleyes:

I do apologise, I forgot about you 2.:Hammer. What hp are you 2 hitting then?

What I meant by comparison is that if Mir hits 800hp at 1 bar then that should match tinkers 800hp at the same boost, roughly. But then again we don\'t know if Pip meant whp or fwhp.

I\'m sure your 2 cars are running more than 1 bar on your 2 rotors?

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: tinker-27;780094Mine has already done over 800@ wheels , I\'m only using wastage pressure on the road at the moment (722@ wheels) and that\'s enough for he road !!!!! Going back to the dyno to map the top end now I\'ve got the correct plugs in it , going to run 1bar and see what it does . I\'m not going to push it to hard at the moment as I don\'t want to break it yet , looks like there are some really powerful cars around at he moment ! ,

Oh come on be honest, you know you want 1,000rwhp as it\'s a nice rounded off figure.

rbs14a

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;780142I do apologise, I forgot about you 2.:Hammer. What hp are you 2 hitting then?
 
What I meant by comparison is that if Mir hits 800hp at 1 bar then that should match tinkers 800hp at the same boost, roughly. But then again we don\'t know if Pip meant whp or fwhp.
 
I\'m sure your 2 cars are running more than 1 bar on your 2 rotors?

neither of us are sure exactly what power we are running, both cars were hitting around 145mph over the quarter so in the 700hp+ fwhp.
interesting to see if it will make 800 at 1 bar...

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: rbs14a;780150neither of us are sure exactly what power we are running, both cars were hitting around 145mph over the quarter so in the 700hp+ fwhp.
interesting to see if it will make 800 at 1 bar...

Yes me too. I can\'t remember what size turbo Mir is running but I\'m sure Pip knows what he\'s talking about to say they will achieve that kind of hp. I wonder what the torque will be like?

I know that Kev(20 B PP twin turbo) achieved 470rwhp on 1 bar of boost on standard ports with his 20B before going mental with his PP\'s. So.... Mir is running a large street port as he said earlier he doesn\'t like bridges. Or he is running semi pp\'s? Which would be cool. Then I think 800hp looks like an achievable number, but with maybe a Turbo somewhere higher in hp capability than the GT40 as that turbo is only rated to 800hp piston.

Now before I get slated for my guess work, I will say that it is only guessing and theory based on my Internet and book reading research. Lmao.

Im sure you will be able to work out his setup better than me. As I don\'t think he\'s going to discuss all of Pips engine tweaking buggery.

I take it your going to rotorstock for the hks series round at pod? I am hoping to come and chat to yourself and blitz and all the others as I don\'t really know many people apart Carl, Kev, and steve. Oh and Clive and Lisa.

rbs14a

yes we will be in the pits with the usual faces

tinker-27

Don\'t get me wrong I will not be happy till it\'s at 1000 @ wheels so far 800 @ 3,500 revs so with 1 bar it should do it , they are getting 1800 in the states but blocks break at that

Mir

Quote from: 12at;780070@ Mir lets hope you can drive if its going to have 800 on 1 bar boost !!!

:rollin

I am hoping the same. :cheers

I have driven a 800bhp Supra, but the feel on Rotary is completely different...So lets hope..

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

12at

driving a 800 hp car and thrashing a 800hp car are 2 differnt things i guess.. I know when i drive my cars they dont get treated nicely..

Where is some pics / thread of your 20b FD?

Mir

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Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;780155Yes me too. I can\'t remember what size turbo Mir is running but I\'m sure Pip knows what he\'s talking about to say they will achieve that kind of hp. I wonder what the torque will be like?

I know that Kev(20 B PP twin turbo) achieved 470rwhp on 1 bar of boost on standard ports with his 20B before going mental with his PP\'s. So.... Mir is running a large street port as he said earlier he doesn\'t like bridges. Or he is running semi pp\'s? Which would be cool. Then I think 800hp looks like an achievable number, but with maybe a Turbo somewhere higher in hp capability than the GT40 as that turbo is only rated to 800hp piston.

Now before I get slated for my guess work, I will say that it is only guessing and theory based on my Internet and book reading research. Lmao.

Im sure you will be able to work out his setup better than me. As I don\'t think he\'s going to discuss all of Pips engine tweaking buggery.

I take it your going to rotorstock for the hks series round at pod? I am hoping to come and chat to yourself and blitz and all the others as I don\'t really know many people apart Carl, Kev, and steve. Oh and Clive and Lisa.

Well I don\'t think I am going to be ready at RotorStock :(. Solely because the car is not ready yet and above all I have spent so much that I am running out of money now! As mentioned earlier, Water Inject, Motec ECU, Mocal Oil Coolers, New Headlights and then labour charges has shrunk me completely lollll

No I am not running B.Port or HBPort or PP or SPP..as I hate porting but I have convinced myself to go Street Port.  

Background

Pip recently built a Danish 20b with the same ports and fuel system as mine-that 20b had GT42 turbo, the car made 609 BHP at .9Bar. So, hoping for 800BHP at 1 Bar is not unrealistic neither impossible.

My only concern is the turbo, I have two turbos, but I think due the cost I am gonna stick with Greddy T88 34D as I bought bigger turbo than that but the cost of labour and then re-mapping is going to break my bank account loll :) Hence, I think I am not going to be ready :(.

With regards to the current setup! I am confident that I am looking reliably over 700BHP because t88 34D can produce 860BHP on 20b.I have seen this on RX7CLUB Website.

So If I make that sort of a power, I am sure that racing an 800BHP Piston Engine would not be a big problem. Also when I started my project of 20b, I was deeply inspired by the RE-Amemiya Red 20b, http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/0611turp_mazda_rx7_fd3s_20b/engine_information.html

It also had t88 34 d turbo and made reliably 600+BHP on the wheels. So I am hoping for good, but still not sure whether I can finish it before Rotorstock.

Just an update, The car is already under the spanner of Pip :Party and after speaking with him today, the Water Injection is going in and will be managed by the MOTEC. I am quite happy with that, and also I am hoping that it will be out some time next week.. I will keep everyone updating.. Feel free to share guys

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

Mir

#27
Quote from: 12at;780188driving a 800 hp car and thrashing a 800hp car are 2 differnt things i guess.. I know when i drive my cars they dont get treated nicely..

Where is some pics / thread of your 20b FD?

:rollin well said

I meant I have owned and raced 800hp Supra in the past and I am sure I am competent enough to control an 800HP Rotary, but then its all in God\'s hands.. So, If God permits, I will be able to manage 800Hp on the strip!! that\'s if we produced such figures. :cheers

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

rbs14a

Quote from: Mir;780192:rollin well said
 
I meant I have owned and raced 800hp Supra in the past and I am sure I am competent enough to control an 800HP Rotary, but then its all in God\'s hands.. So, If God permits, I will be able to manage 800Hp on the strip!! that\'s if we produced such figures. :cheers
 
Mir

the difference being an fd weighs a 3rd less than a supra, good luck putting the power down on the road
:3gears-lh

Mir

Quote from: rbs14a;780193the difference being an fd weighs a 3rd less than a supra, good luck putting the power down on the road
:3gears-lh

Cheers mate!!! I need that...
:cheers

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C