Hodgeson gone!

jetpilot · January 08, 2011, 11:39:45 AM

So another manager bites the dust!

I have no great interest in Liverpool FC but is this recent trend really helping the game. I dont think it will be long before Ancelloti gets his marching orders!

It looks to me like these clubs are now being completely run by the owners, is that right? Does a manager really only have a few months to prove themselves! Much as i despise Utd, they have had the same manager for 1000\'s of years and are the most successful, surely that says a lot.

I know these billionares want success for their investment, but surely if they bought a business on its knees it wouldnt take like 2 seconds to turn it round, which is what they seem to expect from managers.

Maybe we should employ this tactic with our governments! Wouldnt see them doing year long fiscous studies into ridiculous subjects when the answer was obvious from day one!

Ian65 · January 08, 2011, 12:14:51 PM

I feel a bit sorry for Roy. He seems a decent honest bloke and the management setup, himself included was only part of the problem at Liverpool. Sadly, this is one of the main things that he\'ll be remembered for now.
He found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time and whoever steps in to do the job isn\'t going to provide instant success.

The only positve I can see is that with Hicks and Gillette out of the way, the club have a chance to rebuild, whether with NESV or someone else.

The days of managers having the time to build a team and patient owners like Sir Alex had in the early days at Man U have long gone.

It\'ll be interesting to see how much time Fergies successor is given if he doesn\'t hit the ground running.

Nik da Greek · January 08, 2011, 04:42:42 PM

Not really a surprise sadly. I think Hodgson is an excellent manager, as is testified to by how much Fulham over-achieved under him and errrr....how much they really haven\'t this year. He inherited a poisoned challice, sadly...a poor squad, meddling owners and players who seem to think that just because they\'re Liverpool they somehow are entitled to win games no matter how badly/disinterestedly they play. I think Hodgson\'s been let down badly at every turn, and has every right to feel hard done by.

The way the game is nowadays is ridiculous, managers should be given a chnace, especially ones with proven track records such as Hodgson. They don\'t just become a bad manager overnight, its the players that let them down. Who knows what will happen when they\'re given time, after all, Fergusson was not far from the sack back when Man Utd were dismal and look at their career together since....

TiddlesRX7 · January 08, 2011, 07:25:08 PM

I agree Nik. Hodgeson is a good manager and it is a shame he hasn\'t really had time to set the team up as he would have liked too. He had my vote to finnish the season at least. Oh well its done now and King Kenny is back in the driving seat. Hopefully he can focus the players for tomorrow and give Man U a game.

Ade (confused Liverpool fan!)

Dan Norton · January 08, 2011, 09:17:45 PM

Quote from: Nik da Greek;735782Not really a surprise sadly. I think Hodgson is an excellent manager, as is testified to by how much Fulham over-achieved under him and errrr....how much they really haven\'t this year. He inherited a poisoned challice, sadly...a poor squad, meddling owners and players who seem to think that just because they\'re Liverpool they somehow are entitled to win games no matter how badly/disinterestedly they play. I think Hodgson\'s been let down badly at every turn, and has every right to feel hard done by.

The way the game is nowadays is ridiculous, managers should be given a chnace, especially ones with proven track records such as Hodgson. They don\'t just become a bad manager overnight, its the players that let them down. Who knows what will happen when they\'re given time, after all, Fergusson was not far from the sack back when Man Utd were dismal and look at their career together since....

well said nik, i completely agree.

other than gerrard, do the others give a f**k?....i dont they did under poor old roy.

Grizzly · January 09, 2011, 12:35:23 AM

I think the owners have taken the get out claus to get some one in thats not a mid table (unproven at the top) Manager, they want some one that can control high paid players and get the best from them. There is also the issue of the owners being in for the "Long Haul" as its put, they dont strike me as people that buy stop gap players to fill holes rather buy quality players that fit well in a squad, if you look at it like that Roy simply doesn\'t have the pull to atract the big names.

All said and done i do feel for Roy as he\'s been used to bridge a gap but on the other hand Roy must have thought with liverpool being for sale there was a good chance he would be at the helm when some one came allong with an unlimited budget and told him to build a team but thats not how it played out.

Grizzly · January 09, 2011, 12:40:18 AM

Quote from: Nik da Greek;735782Who knows what will happen when they\'re given time, after all, Fergusson was not far from the sack back when Man Utd were dismal and look at their career together since....

I do agree with this, United fans always forget the agro they had with Fergson at the begining and how fortunate they where to give him that last chance. They owe him everything.

gsb876 · January 09, 2011, 01:59:11 AM

Roy was only brought in to stabilise a sinking ship, Rafa left Liverpool high and dry and once he realised that there were no funds and a poor squad he quickly jumped ship.

As a Evertonian you might think i enjoy the fiasco at Anfield but in truth its sad that a huge club like Liverpool have been left trying to compete with midtable teams rather than challenging at the top. I think for the next 2-3 seasons they will require large funding and a full squad replacement before they can think of anything other than 8-12th spot in the league.

Dalglish has only been brought in to silence the fans annoyance, the fact of the matter is that the Liverpool squad is poorer than it ever has been, Torres is making noises about leaving and that would then provide the team with nothing other than a relegation battle.

Casey · January 09, 2011, 12:29:17 PM

Yep, I feel really sorry for Roy, definately a case of wrong place at the wrong time. Hope he finds another club soon - should be plenty more vacancies around soon I reckon, almost seems like a manager a day at the moment; Ferguson, Keane, Hodgson, etc!

Interesting blog on manager sackings HERE

jetpilot · January 09, 2011, 12:43:21 PM

I notice King Kenny saying in the news today, there is no quick fix solution.....Covering his back there me thinks!

Dan Norton · January 09, 2011, 01:15:42 PM

Quote from: jetpilot;735909I notice King Kenny saying in the news today, there is no quick fix solution.....Covering his back there me thinks!

thats exactly what roy said when he took the job swell :rollin

Casey · January 09, 2011, 05:50:49 PM

Got to feel sorry for Kenny. That was never a penalty. No problem with sending Gerrard off though, the ref had no choice with both his feet off the ground, lunging with studs up. Spoilt what could have been a great FA cup tie though.

jetpilot · January 09, 2011, 05:59:23 PM

I thought it was a good game!

Usual Man U cheating though, who was Fergie calling a cheat recently......hypocrite!!

Apparently its not called diving now, its called "simulated"

Casey · January 09, 2011, 06:15:35 PM

Don\'t care what it\'s called, just one form of cheating that spoils the game. Not a good example to set to the youngsters of today who see these overpaid prima-donnas as role models (God forbid!)

It wasn\'t a bad match as things go, but would\'ve been better without the pen and sending off IMHO

TiddlesRX7 · January 09, 2011, 06:41:57 PM

Well at least Liverpool actually played some football today. Not a bad performance compared to recently. I hope we play like that a bit more now and then at least we should start getting some results. Was a bit stupid of Gerrard to get himself sent off and it did mess the game up. But even with 10 men I thought they played alright. Shame the ref is a Man U fan though.