V8 conversion....

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rx-dave

Quote from: skybusr34;734597dave your throwing petrol on this fire adding an rb26 into the mix... lol

I just like things a little different :2Rolleyes
 
Quote from: Mir;734617Hi Dave
 
Unfortunately, its not ready yet!! Will be ready God\'s willing next week or so...my previous rebuild was f**** up just because of the tunning, however; this time I am taking no chances that is why its taking more time...Pip at WGT is doing some magic so see what he can bring me...a 1000bhp as hoped or less!!!
 
Where abouts you live Dav, as you know I have to do running of the car any way so I might just pop over to you have a quick chat and then off I go??
 
I like the way you mentioned 20B (above) before all those piston engine lollll:cheers
 
I am undecided with the Gear Box at the moment as I want to keep OS Giken\'s gears in the FD trane, but people are suggesting otherwise so see how I go about that....I hate putting a gear box on my car which is not of a rotary box i.e. Vipers box etc etc...
 
Will meet you any way, waiting on the delivery of the car..:3gears-rh
 
Regards
Syed

Hi Syed,
I\'m in South Wales and you\'d be extremely welcome anytime!! If that\'s a bit too far let me know as i\'ll travel closer to you as i\'d really like to see your car.
If money were no object the 20b with a massive turbo would be my first choice, then the V8 and finally a Skyline / Supra engine.........in reality this last choice may end up being my first as i\'m a classic at starting a project then never finishing :2Rolleyes and i already have lots of Skyline parts here already.
I\'ve been offered an R35 at a great price by a mate who\'ll need to sell soon so i\'m also toying with that........
Let me know when you are up and running and i\'ll get my camera ready, i\'m sure Mark aka Mr Skybusr34 would be extremely interested to see it as well so i\'m sure he\'ll also be there :cheers
Dave.

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: tinker-27;734606The turbo to intercooler pipes are titanium as well ( although I need to remake them as they hit the rad !!! 6 hours wasted !!!)

This is a bit of a silly question but what do you use to weld titanium? A gig welder with titanium filler rods?

When are you hoping to get the v8 Twin Turbo up and running? Would like to see your car, where abouts are you located?

skybusr34

Quote from: rx-dave;734624I just like things a little different :2Rolleyes
 

 
 i\'m sure Mark aka Mr Skybusr34 would be extremely interested to see it as well so i\'m sure he\'ll also be there :cheers
Dave.

im here..  let me know when and i`ll be on it.. like a tramp on a sandwich:Hammer
if i had 8 hour to cut down a tree. i`d spend 6 sharpening the axe

tinker-27

You use ti filler rods or just fuse it together , same as stainless or mild steel but it\'s normally thinner so harder to do . It also has to be clean like alloy . Hoping to have it running for the spring ? Im in Birmingham in my workshop you are more than welcome to pop in for a coffee and have a look .

Nik da Greek

These threads always descend into a roundabout of intrasigence lol. I love both V8s and rotaries. Part of me wishes I\'d gone for a V8 long ago (about two engines back lol) part of me is glad I stuck with the rotary and made it work. One of each would be best, I think....

Craig, would you entertain a one-off welding repair to a titanium exhaust I managed to break?

tinker-27

yes i can weld it for you as long as its not to far gone , let me know if you need it doing, as for the whole v8 v rotary debate it will go on and on but i just wish people would realise its not a "which is best contest " there are more people do it to make a great car than fix a blown rotary. at least with nearly 20 out there now we have proved it works so its on track and the road . what other rear wheel drive sports car can you get for sub 30 grand that has the performance of one of these ? 400 bhp @ wheels 1250 kg ?  a tvr is probably the closest (only 75 bhp down),

SiH

If you want to have a v8 in an fd (or any car fir that matter:) , look no further than the man above. I\'ve seen a fair few of Craig\'s conversions while i\'ve been standing around having the pi** taken, waiting for him to fix my .... ups, and i never cease to be impressed at the work and attention to detail that he lavishes in the cars. Truly epic.

I\'ve always said my ideal garage would have a white 13b powered fd, and a black burnout kitted ls. Both brilliant cars, both brlliant engines. Arguing about which is better is purile, you may as well discuss whose dad would beat up whose, or whether an xbox is in fact better than a ps3.

Rzla

Great work Tinker.
 
That is definitely a work of art.
 
Your work is top notch. No doubt about it.
 
Just seeing it in a rx7 is something I can\'t agree to. Not knocking your work or anything at all, that\'s just my opinion. Just put it in anything else and I can enjoy it :p
 
Where do you see a rotary in the world? In a rx7...
 
The audience for a rotary is already small enough as it is.. therefore those who decide to try and advance the rotary by commiting to R&D to improve it etc need the support of the small community it involves.
 
As more ditch the rotary, the less costs on R&D can be covered by those rotary tuners and builders.
 
It will be a sad day when no one continues to develop the rotary engine because the customer base is not there to do so.
 
My 2p worth

Nik da Greek

Quote from: tinker-27;734658yes i can weld it for you as long as its not to far gone , let me know if you need it doing, as for the whole v8 v rotary debate it will go on and on but i just wish people would realise its not a "which is best contest " there are more people do it to make a great car than fix a blown rotary. at least with nearly 20 out there now we have proved it works so its on track and the road . what other rear wheel drive sports car can you get for sub 30 grand that has the performance of one of these ? 400 bhp @ wheels 1250 kg ?  a tvr is probably the closest (only 75 bhp down),

Excellent stuff, I\'ll get some pics of the split and PM them to you so you can offer an opinion if it\'s possible. :D

I also agree on the "not just an alternative to a blown engine" argument, the Yanks have always been able to make incredible engines even out of old skool pushrod tech, it was simply the rest of the cars that were wretched dynamically. Putting a snorting v8 into a decent chassis is hardly a brain-teaser, is it?

Mind you, the rotary is an amazing engine in it\'s own right, too. What it isn\'t is durable :(

Mir

Hi guys, I agree with durability and blown engine comments above, but I would like to stress this point that rotary is not durable in the UK, as unfortunately we don\'t have tuners like Gabby Skern from port Rico and Alex of Kiwi Re from newzeland. If u luk at the stats rotary is unreliable in the Uk only!!!!look at Australia where ppl use rotaries in trucks, wagons etc etc!!! We seriously lack good, unbaised and reliable tuners.. Speaking from experience in the UK u wud go to the engine builder to get ur engine built, if engine fails the first thing he does is "Sorry mate can\'t cover this blown engine" and then he will b so busy to find a way to put the blame on you.. It\'s like you are pig in the middle and told to go here and there...no professionalisim...I wish someone come out and say something unambiguous about warranting the engine, I have never dealt with Haywood Rotary but their claim abt warranty of the engine is very convincing... No disrespect to no tuner and builder in the UK,, but I seriously think v need reliable tuners in the UK to make rotary last otherwise rotaries are going down in numbers 20 of em have already been butchered....
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Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: tinker-27;734637You use ti filler rods or just fuse it together , same as stainless or mild steel but it\'s normally thinner so harder to do . It also has to be clean like alloy . Hoping to have it running for the spring ? Im in Birmingham in my workshop you are more than welcome to pop in for a coffee and have a look .

Thanks for the invitation, will have to arrange it sometime soon. Are you in your shop on weekends? We are in Huddersfield so it is not too far away to drive down there. And permitting the clutch on my FD gets sorted we will come down in that.

CharlieP

Quote from: Mir;734670Hi guys, I agree with durability and blown engine comments above, but I would like to stress this point that rotary is not durable in the UK, as unfortunately we don\'t have tuners like Gabby Skern from port Rico and Alex of Kiwi Re from newzeland. If u luk at the stats rotary is unreliable in the Uk only!!!!look at Australia where ppl use rotaries in trucks, wagons etc etc!!! We seriously lack good, unbaised and reliable tuners.. Speaking from experience in the UK u wud go to the engine builder to get ur engine built, if engine fails the first thing he does is "Sorry mate can\'t cover this blown engine" and then he will b so busy to find a way to put the blame on you.. It\'s like you are pig in the middle and told to go here and there...no professionalisim...I wish someone come out and say something unambiguous about warranting the engine, I have never dealt with Haywood Rotary but their claim abt warranty of the engine is very convincing... No disrespect to no tuner and builder in the UK,, but I seriously think v need reliable tuners in the UK to make rotary last otherwise rotaries are going down in numbers 20 of em have already been butchered....

So you find the next best thing...the engine builder who knows the guys from Rico, and genuinely knows his stuff from experience with racing car builders

tinker-27

Yes I work on saturdays i will probably be there butchering some more fds  !!!

Grub2000

Hey Tinker-27, can you source Cobra 8.8 diffs?

If so how much?

tinker-27

Hi I don\'t source them but I am working on a bolt in kit for a FD , the drive shafts are available of the shelf in the states , but the fitting kit is not great and very expensive , I have a diff and shafts here ready to make the kit , but trying to find time .