My HEADLAMP Washers aren\'t working!

Started by CHC (RIP), October 21, 2010, 11:14:03 PM

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CHC (RIP)

Getting down to the last few jobs before we go for the MOT.
Filled up all the washer bottles, front screen okay, rear screen no washer - turns out the switch was faulty (cleaned & now okay) but headlamp washer doesn\'t want to work!
Took bottle out this evening and put temporary feed from battery to the connector - no joy.  The impeller is solid and refuses to rotate either way.  Is this supposed to be free as with the other pumps?
If not very well, can it be fixed or should it go to the great scrap heap and needs to be replaced?
Any suggestions where to purchase a replacement - used or new?
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Ian65

Welcome to the faulty headlamp wash motor club Cliff!
I bet there are more 1st gens out there with faulty headlamp washers than there are with working ones.
You can fix them though.....

See how I did it...

http://www.tech-leisure.com/index_files/Page681.htm

Mine works great now, loads of power!

CHC (RIP)

Now that makes good reading with simple instructions - why even I could follow that.
It\'s a bit late I suppose to go into the garage now to squirt it with WD so I\';ll have to wait until tomorrow.
The connector into the bottle is different on the S2 - I\'ll photo tomorrow & post it up.

Cheers Ian.

:cheers
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just go very very carefully when you try to prise it apart Cliff, it\'s very delicate and easy to ruin if it\'s very rusty which it probably is. It could have been seized for decades!
If you can\'t get it open, drill a 1/8 hole in the end of the case ( so that you miss the magnets) and pump nearly a tin of wd40 into it. You can araldite the hole up later.
I bet these things cost an absolute arm, if they are even still available.
Good luck!

CHC (RIP)

The strange thing about them is from the outside you wouldn\'t even consider there to be a problem - mine is in near pristine condition, well at least it looks good even if it doesn\'t work.
Will start the process off tonight and shall await developments.
Cheers for that.
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David Nock (RIP)

Headlamp washers never ever been tested on my MOT\'s.
Last used them in 1993 (I think).

If you live next to a farm, fine.    :flamed
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Ian65

Quote from: David Nock;722506Headlamp washers never ever been tested on my MOT\'s.

mine neither... still nice to have them working though


Quote from: David Nock;722506If you live next to a farm, fine.    :flamed

I do!

CHC (RIP)

Quote from: Ian65;722519mine neither... still nice to have them working though
 
 
 
 
I do!

Totally agree that they may not really be necessary but the fact remains its fitted to the car.  Therefore I want them working - to me it\'s all about the originality and knowing that everthing works.
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CHC (RIP)

#8
Right taken some photos before I started the process.
1 & 2 show the outer casing - pretty good condition I thought but the impeller is oh so tight.
3 to 5  show bits that came out of the washer bottle when I cleaned it this afternoon - what are they and are they necessary for the functionality of the pump?
6 shows the casing which connects to the bottle together with the two unknown bits.

Any suggestions or known details welcome

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CHC (RIP)

Left the washer pump soaking overnight and tried to move it this afternoon - yeh it has started to move, ever so slightly.  So I\'ve left it and will try again in another 24 hrs.
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CHC (RIP)

With a little gentle persusion of a rubber mallet got the movement required, twisted & turned, pulled and pushed and it came out of the housing ....... yeh, just a little bit corroded.
Cleaned up the aramture and now drying off, casing soaking in brake fluid and will tackle tonight.
So might get it working yet - either way it moves more that it did before (even though it\'s by hand).
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CHC (RIP)

Here are latest photos of the offending pump/washer motor to show condition of the interior components ......
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Ian65

Quote from: CHC;723157Here are latest photos of the offending pump/washer motor to show condition of the interior components ......

doesn\'t look to bad Cliff. That commutator is a bit grimey.... I cleaned mine with a very soft wire brush in my dremmel. The brushes need to be sliding freely as well.
I painted the inside of my case around the magnets to hold back the rust then greased the spindle before putting it back together.

CHC (RIP)

I thought it looked pretty good under the circumstance too.
The bushes are moving quite freely I\'m pleased to report.
Having the armature checked over just to make sure there is no minor fault before I continue with refurb and installation on a new seal.
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