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[Brett]

Also, try checking the plug leads are on in the correct order, TW Whites helpfully put mine back on the wrong way round once (T&L mixed up) and it ran like a dog!

 Another thing (Which I doubt you\'re going to want to hear!) is that it sounds like it could be running on just one chamber?  Are you sure your getting ignition on both rotors?  If the idle is really rough as well then it could well be running on only one rotor...

Dont get disheartened mate!


PS By the way, well done on your last post by the way, it was readable!!!

[Archbish]

5 - remove the elbow to the upper intake manifold - if the turbo\'s are a problem, this should allow it to idle OK. - so jsut remove the full upper manifold? adn then start it?

NOOOOO!!!!  Just the bent elbow from the intercooler to the upper intake manifold!!  DO NOT START THE CAR WITHOUT THE UPPER INTAKE MANIFOLD ON!!  ((actually, will it even start then???))

Good luck.  

it could well be running on only one rotor

hadn\'t thought of that - if you can keep it going, it may clear enough to run on both...

[BlitzBoy]

Originally posted by Brett
PS By the way, well done on your last post by the way, it was readable!!!

Ditto well done

[yonner]

Originally posted by BlitzBoy
Ditto well done

lol i thot seing as u guys were doign summat for me id return the favour thank fook scooby never wanted a favor returned :spank

[yonner]

oh just to let u know i managed to flood the car a few days b4 this post took the plugs out and fuel relay and spun it till vapor cleared in the plug holes spun it again plugs back in and started first turn went for a few seconds then the reves droped so i will try the plug wiers im shure the trailings are on fine but not 100(percent key wotn work)  shure the leaders are on right i will check that im also going to take my plugs into college to moro to check and clean the crap of them

[wookie]

no this is not a joke
smell the smoke coming from the tail pipe don\'t inhale too much tho.
if the smoke is white in colour and smells oil\'y then the engine is burning oil,
 if it\'s white and smells funny not oil\'y but an unusual smell it\'s sucking in water and pumping it thru the engine,
 if it\'s black smoke and smells of fuel then it\'s not burning the petrol being sucked in, or not all of it anyway and is again pumping it thru the engine and out the back.
this is a good and easy way to start to diagnose this sort of problem on any car

[clive]

Originally posted by Donato
Everyone is a novice at some point...

    Agree with that, l was like 8 when me Mum found a moped engine in me wardrobe that l was trying to get apart, we all start somewhere.

O/K there\'s lots of things being suggested here and hopefully we will get there and all find out what is going on with your motor, this type of thing was after all why MRC was set up ,to help people
  BTW what is the model, a T11?

Try this one, after starting pull a vacuum pipe off of the inlet manifold put your finger on and off the metal piece and see if the engine changes note, Rich said check the map sensor the same as l would have said but don\'t forget if you have no vacuum feed due to a huge leak the map sensor can\'t work.

BTW l twigged you was serious about Rotors when you had Dad bring you to Rotorstock, thanks for coming all that way.

[yonner]

i aint been round the garage in a few days just getting setleld at college but i got the day off to moro the car is a 3rd gen and the smoke is black i like smoke :bandit :rollin  im going to try clives idea tomoro morning

and as for rotor stock i was like when he said we could go the lass at the b&b was shocked when we told her we made the journy in 4 and a half hours

cheers. johnny

[Brett]

Hmmm if your getting black smoke then it sounds like your MAP sensor/fueling/cold start are all ganging up to give you a shafting...

[Wav]

Was the car running ok (ish) before you flooded it and took the plugs out?? If so then chances are you\'ve just got your leads the wrong way round, so check that first, oh and obviously smell yer tail smoke;).

Good luck,

Paul:)

[Donato]

Originally posted by clive
Agree with that, l was like 8 when me Mum found a moped engine in me wardrobe that l was trying to get apart, we all start somewhere.

QUOTE]

If you are trying to fix it in the wardrobe like Clive you may be putting it back together wrong due to lack of light! Just tell your mum thats what the kitchen table\'s is for and to stop whining!

[BlitzBoy]

hmmmm Clive in a wardrobe with a moped engine lol what the hell are u up to with the moped engine Clive? strange deviant behaviour lmao:rollin sounds like "BEnder" in Futurama, your not related to him by any chance Clive lol???

[BlitzBoy]

Bender aka Clive the Forum Leader lol