Elford Turbo Conversion...

Started by Ian65, June 21, 2010, 07:34:54 PM

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I also used a soft paint brush but with \'gunk\' and yes it was quite difficult cleaning the top side with carb and emission items but with care and a few minor scratches managed it quite well, the hardest part was making sure no fluids (degreasant or aqua) went into the carb or associated breather hoses.  Another good reason for having a clean power unit is that if you did have an oil leak it can be readily identified before too much damage is caused - that too with burning smell of oil & grease (horrible).
Don\'t know the history behind the engine yet - I noticed the beehive when I bought it and thought that this was the standard change from the SA (with front oil cooler below the radiator) for the FB series 2.  How can I identify if it is a S3 unit?  The previous owner told me that the unit had been maintened and re-built by \'Rotechniks\' (or something very similar) about 2 years earlier - JAZ has done about 2K miles since this was done (allegedly).
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Ian, liked your £5 bargain - was that a recent aquisition?
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\'Inspirational\' Guys....you\'re both doing great jobs.

And the beehive cooler suggests Series 3 engine Cliff, although I suppose an S2 engine could have been modded along the way to S3 oil cooling?
Is the under-rad cooler still there Cliff? Blanked off? Can\'t see any hydraulic flexes.
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No, totally gone Dave - it\'s as if it never existed soooooo perhaps it is an S3.  Is there any other way to find out for sure?
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Certainly an S2 car Cliff, Reg Date and VIN say so quite clearly.

So it\'s probably had both the engine and Rad system from an S3. Nothing wrong there, no leaky front oil cooler to worry about.
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Quote from: CHC;723231No, totally gone Dave - it\'s as if it never existed soooooo perhaps it is an S3.  Is there any other way to find out for sure?

as Dave says, could just have had a beehive fitted in place of the S2 oil cooler which eventually disintegrate.... no difference in terms of performance in a N/A road car.... the beehive is very efficient and reliable.
Check your V5 and see if the engine number matches...
Apply for the DVLA microfiche for this car and it\'ll show up any notified change of engine and also the engine number from when the car was new which you can then compare to your engine.
Parts are interchangeable between the various series and it\'s very difficult to ascertain for definite which model an engine originally came out of.
On British sportscars such as Triumphs and Jaguars, the factories kept hand written records which ended up at the archive at British Motor Heritage and you can apply for a certificate which details build date, dispatch date, dealer, vin, engine and key numbers, body colour, trim colour,optional extras fitted etc etc...
Sadly. I don\'t think any such records were retained for the 1st gens ( unless Mazda GB kept any) so confirming a cars originallity is very difficult after all these years.

Ian65

Quote from: CHC;723200Ian, liked your £5 bargain - was that a recent aquisition?

it was on ebay about 9 months back, Keith gave me the heads up on it and it turned out to be a bargain.... a series 2 rad, newly re-cored for 5 quid!

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Quote from: David Nock;723270Certainly an S2 car Cliff, Reg Date and VIN say so quite clearly.
 
So it\'s probably had both the engine and Rad system from an S3. Nothing wrong there, no leaky front oil cooler to worry about.

 
Had the leaky cooler with my SA back in the 80\'s so know what that is all about - defintely wont miss that problem.
Yes concur - JAZ is an S2 but I\'m going to request details from DVLA to find out more info on it\'s history - will let you know.
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Quote from: Ian65;723291it was on ebay about 9 months back, Keith gave me the heads up on it and it turned out to be a bargain.... a series 2 rad, newly re-cored for 5 quid!

I always like a bargain too but that wasn\'t just a bargain, that was b***dy fantastic - I trust it came with free p+p for that price?
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Removed the rest of the old exhaust today and got the Elford one ready to go on.





It\'s stainless from the turbo to the back axle where it mates to the Mazda factory backbox ( which is great as I prefer the stock look)
It only has a very small middle box so it should alter the tone of the exhaust quite a bit.  
Looking forward to it.......!!


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JBerg

holy nuts that cleaned up well!

CHC (RIP)

Looking really good Ian - was that an eBay special too?
Did you manage to pick up replacement gaskets as well?
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Quote from: CHC;723672Looking really good Ian - was that an eBay special too?
Did you manage to pick up replacement gaskets as well?

The exhaust was made by/for Elford as well. It\'s stainless to take the heat from the turbo and gas flowed to get the best out of the turbo setup.
I drew around all the mating flanges onto a piece of paper and went to Roadrunner, the local motor factor and the guy looked through his selection of gaskets and matches them up perfectly..... result!
The exhaust itself was part of the complete setup I bought off ebay back in the spring.

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Sounds to me you have a very good supplier base that are interested in assisting rather than hindering the enthusiast.
Where we are it\'s the normal "Noooooo, its not on the shelf we haven\'t got one" - some of them are too lazy to get out of their own way.

Whilst on this subject Ian, at a later date I\'ll be looking a replacing the exhaust system as the front and middle sections of JAZ are looking quite aged (but reasonably solid at the moment) and will obviously be considering SS for the long term.  Is there a specific manufacturer I should be looking for and is there a preference in model type - I haven\'t got a clue on this front as I nornmally simply have standard units fitted.
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cleaned up the backbox today and put it back on the car with new fixings...





Quote from: CHC;723724Whilst on this subject Ian, at a later date I\'ll be looking a replacing the exhaust system as the front and middle sections of JAZ are looking quite aged (but reasonably solid at the moment) and will obviously be considering SS for the long term.  Is there a specific manufacturer I should be looking for and is there a preference in model type

The most popular replacement systems back in the day were \'double s\' and Janspeed. The Janspeed was noisy and I can\'t remember if they were stainless or not.
The double s was all stainless and is as quiet as the standard factory system.
I don\'t think there are any stainless systems available off the shelf anymore for the 1st gen but plently of  parts cars seem to still have them on. This would probably be your best route.