help

[yonner]

car starts fine but after 2 seconds the refves drop to about 500 there is shitloads of white then black smoke that pisses out the tail i seriosuly think this car is gona end up getign sold aas parts get ur orders in now

[Fish]

Black smoke indicates to much fuel, way to much fuel in fact.

Sounds like you need to book it in with a specialist to resolve the problems you have.

Fish

[yonner]

mmm fook towing it down to chesire only to fire lodsa chash at it i got the car for cheep san prob make the money back in spares

[yonner]

http://www.powervehicles.com/cars/insoon/1474_97_rx7_redcwest.htm i reeeeeeely want this lol we are gona go have a look at it sometime

[yonner]

also i cant rev the car past 5k there is no belt over the ac and the ps pump will that cause a problem?

[Fish]

Well either one of two things will happen.

1, You will find the cash and have it properly looked at.

or

2, You will sell it to some poor person who will have to resolve the problems that you created.

Fish

[20B_boy]

It might be some thing simple like the map sensor not plugged in?

[Shark]

Originally posted by yonner
also i cant rev the car past 5k there is no belt over the ac and the ps pump will that cause a problem?

At a guess, I\'d say you\'re ac and ps won\'t work.  You\'re sure this isn;t the belt for the airpump?  If so and you\'ve got a cat, then this could be the cause of your troubles...

[framey]

Shouldn\'t that drivers side carpet belong around the bottom of a bog?

[yonner]

map sensor is fine but i aint shure if the gas filter is a gas filter lol i think its jsut a 1 way restrictor.  i aint gona sell the car and my problems to someone els its prob something i can fix. the air pump is fine its jsut the ac and the ps pump thats not runnign ross from dragonperformance has sent me a new pully it shud be heer to moro.

also the intake manifold it coverd in oil inside so im prety shure my turbos have ****ed off to never (work again) land so its slave away geting a single ready getign the engine ported and a new excu and then getting it mapped or buy a nice new car and single turbo it in winter when its off the road and get it all nice for nxt summer

[BlitzBoy]

oil in the intake manifold does not always indicate blown turbos
"so n cnat eb prety shure"

[Archbish]

Originally  posted  by  Fish  
 You  will  sell  it  to  some  poor  person  who  will  have  to  resolve  the  problems  that  you  created.

That\'s  a  bit  strong  considering  the  lad  and  his  dad  bought  a  scrapped  non-runner,  isn\'t  it???:confused:  

He\'s  technically  done  better  than  most  here (Inc me),  and  he\'s  not  even  got  a  licence  yet!

Don\'t  lose  heart  Yonner,  keep  at  it,  and  it\'ll  be  something  you\'ll  be  proud  of  -  esp  as  you  guys  are  doing  it  yourselves!

1  -  make  sure  it\'s  full  of  coolant
2  -  remove  the  cat,  and  see  if  it\'ll  run.
3  -  make  sure  it\'s  full  of  oil
4  -  the  fuel  filter  is  above  the  rear  axle  (apparently).    It\'s  an  arse  to  do  (apparently)  but  worthwhile  -  esp  with  the  work  you  are  doing
5  -  remove  the  elbow  to  the  upper  intake  manifold  -  if  the  turbo\'s  are  a  problem,  this  should  allow  it  to  idle  OK.
6  -  DO  NOT  REV  IT  ABOVE  3K!!!    If  it  is  feeling  sorry  for  itself,  and  needs  attention,  this  will  do  nothing  but  harm  -  esp  if  it\'s  cold.

You  were  talking  about  rebuilding  it  yourself  anyhow  -  if  it  is  screwed,  this  could  be  another  chance  to  learn  stuff  about  the  engine!!    At  this  rate,  you\'ll  be  one  of  the  experts  on  the  car  before  you  are  old  enough  to  be  insured  on  the  damn  thing!!!

[Donato]

Everyone is a novice at some point...

[Wav]

Yep I agree, stick with it you\'re doing a great job and besides you learn 100x times more from the mistakes you make, however important or insignificant:D

Where is this oil coming from? are you sure you\'ve torqued all the turbo oil feed and drain pipes up properly? and did you use new gaskets on them??? If it\'s oil in the boost pipes not on the outside of the engine, then yes it could be blown turbos. If its oil on the block and in the engine bay it is probably just a leak. Did you use your old turbo\'s or did you use the ones that came with your 2nd hand engine?

Good luck with it all and I\'m sure you\'ll get all the problems solved,

Paul:)

P.S. Try not to run the engine without coolant:rolleyes:

[yonner]

wow prob the first bit of niceness ive came accros on this forum ;the coolant is full the oil is coming from the clutch slave cylinder. the ramp has decided to chuck it so getting under it aint gona be a joy but im gona try without the cat

the turbos were the original 1ns but we used a special heat proof cocking instead or at least thats what my dad called it as he held his hand over the big bit of righting that said "MASTIC!" we torqed everything  according to the manuals spec.

there is no oil on the oustide of the turbos just the intake is soked

1 - make sure it\'s full of coolant - full

2 - remove the cat, and see if it\'ll run. - il try that

3 - make sure it\'s full of oil - oil full and has good preasure

4 - the fuel filter is above the rear axle (apparently). It\'s an arse to do (apparently) but worthwhile - esp with the work you are doing - il try that

5 - remove the elbow to the upper intake manifold - if the turbo\'s are a problem, this should allow it to idle OK. - so jsut remove the full upper manifold? adn then start it?

6 - DO NOT REV IT ABOVE 3K!!! If it is feeling sorry for itself, and needs attention, this will do nothing but harm - esp if it\'s cold. - its not liking to get above 500 never mind 3k

1nce again cheers guys