Which Tuner to map my car.

Started by Hammer, August 10, 2010, 03:26:05 PM

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BlitzBoy

Whats the spec of your engine and Turbo Hammer? you may not need that much boost to get 500rwhp
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old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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Hammer

Very big street port
Gt4088r
8.5cr rotors
850 and 1600 injectors
Water Injection
PFC
Apexi BNR fuel pump
 
500 at the wheels is what i am looking for.

BlitzBoy

your pump is not big enough for UK 500rwhp, the turbo may just about do it but yes it will need to be high boost at around 1.5 BAR with the WI

Have you got a 3 BAR map sensor?, as the stock sensor runs out of signal at around 1.2--1.3 BAR

Pip will be the man to take it to realistically near you but he may not map it that high.
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Hammer

#18
the pump will flow 300l/h so should be OK.
 
This Apexi BNR32 pump flows over 82 g/hr which is 310 l/hr at 55psi (base fuel at 35psi + 20psi boost)  at 13.2 volts.
 
Just ordered a 3 bar map sensor ready for next week.
 
I know Pip wont run it that high, thats why I was looking for someone that would.

BlitzBoy

Well I outflowed a Apexi BNR32 pump at 450rwhp , reality and theory are two different things, the BNR is now my lift pump feeding a swirl pot to two Bosch 044s.

Jaydee is the North London man and he has experiance mapping at high boost, you can PM him on FDUK
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Hammer

#20
Jaydee, errmm no thanks
 
I suppose i will have to see what the apexi BNR can do.

BlitzBoy

No worries good luck dude let us know how you get on, you will be one of 5 UK street 13B FDs to achieve 500rwhp so will be an awesome achievement if ya get the job done.
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Hammer

Cheers,
 
I might just bite the bullet and go for 2 044\'s to be sure.
Anyone tried these in-tank, i will have to make a bracket for them to fit but thats no problem.

turbotoaster

Quote from: Hammer;709968Very big street port
Gt4088r
8.5cr rotors
850 and 1600 injectors
Water Injection
PFC
Apexi BNR fuel pump
 
500 at the wheels is what i am looking for.

only person i would recommend in the uk for running 1.5bar on pump with w/i is ross at dragon performance, he used to run his old spare car at that boost for about a year on pump fuel.
 
Noone else will tune it ill bet.
 
Im mapping my car myself and will tune my car to 1.5bar when i go single but my knowledge isnt good enough for the moment to be able to offer a guarantee on my work, ive only mapped up to 17psi on my car, which will be up to 20psi in a couple of weeks, but 20psi and 22.5psi is another big step

Hammer

I might hit 500 at 20psi, I dont know yet till I try.
 
I might have to travel to ross to get it done.  I\'d rather get everything sorted before I go down there than find out whilst tuning I need something better.
 
Engine has just been rebuilt, better clutch to go in early next week and then sort the fueling out.
 
fingers crossed.

Ed_RX7

Quote from: Hammer;710006Jaydee, errmm no thanks
 
I suppose i will have to see what the apexi BNR can do.


LOL......why do you say that?...Jay Dee knows his stuff.
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Hammer


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Hammer

Had a rex years ago.
 
had gtr\'s and a GT4 aswell.

turbotoaster

basically with the same spec as yourself ive seen 530bhp(450whp) at 17.4psi with a gt4088 with a 1.28a/r turbine.....what a/.r are you running as that will start to hold you back at higher boost levels.

also 2 things you have missed, are you running the w/i pre or post turbo and what ignition system are you going for, if your aiming for 1.5bar you will need 550cc of water at least and you will struggle to get twinpower to fire that, i have a few suggestions for you on that if you want them