Moto Gp 2010

Dan Norton · April 16, 2010, 12:27:20 AM

Quote from: jetpilot;687254You know me buddy, i like a good debate, especially on subjects i have a passion for. Just dont appreciate being miss quoted or any of my comments taken out of context.

Rossi is probably one, if not the most talented riders ever, there is no denying that, not that i ever have!

But to "not be convinced one bit" about Stoners talent is just plain naive! He has bucket loads, its plain to see and undeniable :Laugh

I NEVER, EVER, said that you said Rossi hasnt got talent....please quote me out of the posts in this thread.

:rolleyes:

Rossi has won 125cc, 250cc, 500cc, Moto GP 990cc, and Moto GP 800cc world championships.

Casey Stoner has won one Moto GP 800cc world championship.....and NO OTHER!!

Please check the below to compare careers so far;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Stoner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi

I didnt mis quote anyone.
All i said was " im not convinced "

This was in regards to actually how good Stoner is.

I dont like Stoner....he is bland,he moans, he blames the bike and its components when its doesnt go right, and he also goes awol half way through the year with apparent "health problems" when things arent going right.

So....i dont like him, i dont think he has this "unreal talent", he has as much talent as anyone who has won this championship once.

He winges like a girl when he has to race for position (Laguna Seca 08), and he breaks when he is under pressure.

No i dont think he does have talent.....he\'s a guy who fits in well with a machine.....and i will bet you Â£100 if he moved to another team, he couldnt compete for the podium.

jetpilot · April 16, 2010, 08:02:31 AM

Quote from: Dan Norton;687644I NEVER, EVER, said that you said Rossi hasnt got talent....please quote me out of the posts in this thread.

Casey Stoner has won one Moto GP 800cc world championship.....and NO OTHER

I dont like Stoner....he is bland,he moans, he blames the bike and its components when its doesnt go right, and he also goes awol half way through the year with apparent "health problems" when things arent going right.

So....i dont like him, i dont think he has this "unreal talent", he has as much talent as anyone who has won this championship once

No i dont think he does have talent.....

:Yawn

Why do you keep referring back to Rossi\'s glorious past, this isnt in debate, we all know he is one of the greatest riders ever, no question........

So good, you dont like Stoner as you say many times above and you dont think he has talent, thats great, as that is my debate and as said before, if you dont think he has talent give me odds against him

Dan Norton · April 17, 2010, 10:05:28 AM

LOL....i must admit, i dont like Stoner.

jetpilot · May 01, 2010, 09:14:24 AM

A long way to go in the weekend yet, but i see that the "talentless" Stoner managed to head the free practice, with a time he did on his 3rd flying lap!! :Tongue1

However, towards the end, another front end wash out??

Going on the comments from Ryder and Moody, i had not realised this was the 4th front end wash out this year, 3 last time out including Stoner all on low speed corners. I think i could understand it more on high speed corners where the front is being pushed, but low speed (this one 70 mph ish) doesnt really stack up, repeating the comments of the commentators that is.

So it looks like the Duke has a problem, again echoing the commentators, Nicky Hayden has his bike set up so differently he probably wont be affected, still, damn good to see him up the sharp end in practice again and hopefully he will do the same come qualifying and race day.

And in case you missed practice, Honda testing new engines on monday after complaints from riders, it would seem they are split however, half complaining the engine has no power low down and the other half complaining the chassis is shocking.

Hoping Neil Spalding will pop into commentary for qualifying and tell it how it is, which he usually does.

Still. one thing im still struggling with comprehending, these guys are all on the same engine used last time out, now thats massively impressive when you think of the performance they have!! :Thumbs-up

jetpilot · May 02, 2010, 04:23:08 PM

Awesome race by Lorenzo, weird that he can start slow but just get faster and faster! :yes

Hi RX7 · May 02, 2010, 07:32:48 PM

I was conviced Pedrosa was going to win it then Lorenzo just stormed through very good race though. Ben was dropping back for a few laps before going in. I must admit I back watching Moto GP after not bothering for a while so its WSB and GP this year I guess.

karl_tate · May 02, 2010, 07:33:50 PM

was a good race indeed, they are just crazy tho. bouncing off each other

Dan Norton · May 02, 2010, 09:58:27 PM

Lorenzo wanted to win that race more than anyone....him and Pedrosa dont get on that much either, so i bet Dani was gutted!

Well done to Nicky Hayden aswell.

Dan Norton · May 02, 2010, 10:00:40 PM

Quote from: karl_tate;691114was a good race indeed, they are just crazy tho. bouncing off each other

If you get chance, watch the Moto 2 race (class that replaced the 250\'s)......its utterally mental racing.

40 riders, all with the same controlled engine, different frames though.....9 bikes battled it out for 1st the entire length of the race....incredible.

Also, a wicked 10 bike crash on the 1st lap!

Dan Norton · May 02, 2010, 10:02:05 PM

Quote from: jetpilot;690853A long way to go in the weekend yet........

Yes it was a long way to go :p

karl_tate · May 02, 2010, 10:45:26 PM

yeh i watched the moto 2 race yesterday, it must be a great feeling to be racing like that, true racing. i missed the start tho so will have a look for it.

i felt so sorry for dani tho.

jetpilot · May 03, 2010, 06:04:42 PM

Quote from: karl_tate;691166yeh i watched the moto 2 race yesterday, it must be a great feeling to be racing like that, true racing. i missed the start tho so will have a look for it.

i felt so sorry for dani tho.

There was some commentary to say as soon as you show Dani a wheel up the inside, your as good as past him as he doesnt fight enough! To be fair most of the races he has won he has won by a distance!

jetpilot · June 05, 2010, 03:55:35 PM

Well i am bit shocked, Rossi misses his first race since 1996 and by all accounts wont be back for some time with a broken tibia!!

I hope he has a speedy recovery! :2eek

Dan Norton · June 05, 2010, 09:36:49 PM

As you can imagine....i am absolutely gutted!!!

I cant believe it, his season is over.....he will miss at least 4 races.

The only saving grace is if Pedrosa / Hayden / Stoner can take some points away from Lorenzo in that time, as it now looks like he will be world champ this year.

jetpilot · June 06, 2010, 10:10:35 AM

Quote from: Dan Norton;697821As you can imagine....i am absolutely gutted!!!

I cant believe it, his season is over.....he will miss at least 4 races.

The only saving grace is if Pedrosa / Hayden / Stoner can take some points away from Lorenzo in that time, as it now looks like he will be world champ this year.

Dont you like Lorenzo either :rollin

Much as i didnt/dont want Rossi to win the championship, his presence will be missed, as he as i have always said is the man to beat and i partly enjoyed that aspect to the Gp\'s.

So, being realistic, do the Moto gp regular posters on here think this will have an effect on Rossi, not physically but mentally? There has always been plenty of talk of Rossi luck, im not talking his winning, but the fact he has always managed to avoid serious injury and generally come out un scathed from accidents etc Bones heal in this sport, but the mind doesnt, he is not a young guy learning his trade like Lorenzo per say. He is getting on in years (for the sport) and could we also say because of the young guns snapping at his heals caused him to push a little too hard?