CDI Ignition Systems

12at · March 18, 2010, 09:41:48 PM

when you say 60mj you talking about the stock FD setup? Microtech X4? what?

turbotoaster · March 18, 2010, 09:47:41 PM

i mean the completely stock setup.

also been looking through the msd range, if we went up to the drag setups we can go all the way up to 330mj but i dont think we need to go that high and your looking $1000 for that.

looking at enzos car, that made 709whp he ran 32psi of boost on e85 with a gt42 size turbo using a autronic cdi setup which claims a peak of 126mj and he had no ignition breakdowns.

But then he wasnt running water so maybe the 180mj+ is what we should go for just to make sure

reading more into the dynatek kit it seems to do everything all the other kits do aswell, things like multi-spark and two-step for drag racing, out of everything i see thats looking most promising

marco · March 18, 2010, 09:48:55 PM

just had a look at the dynatek stuff, from what i can see it is two channel no? so even if i wanted to run these on leading and trailing, it would be around Â£500 for the lot? that seems cheaper than an M&W setup, I could be very tempted. wonder if they would do a group buy?

turbotoaster · March 18, 2010, 09:54:50 PM

well you would need 3 marco i think.

good thing is that its good 18krpm on a piston engine with means that it will be fine for 9krpm on a rotary

one for both leadings
the one for each trailing, its just whether you would need them for the trailing, do you have a power/setup goal in mind?

marco · March 18, 2010, 10:14:18 PM

i think they are two channel. so could run one for both leading and one for both trailing. the ecu isnt rotary specific so I will have complete control of each one (rather than running wasted spark) and for and extra 250 ish quid i would rather do it right first time! setup is still being finalised, at the moment it is low compression rotors, ALS seals, gt35r (although I am looking at changing that to a presicion 6256 if i can find one, and sell my brand new 35r- any takers?!!)pre turbo water controlled by the ecu. engine will be built to spin to over 10,000 and whilst the turbo might not be able to take the engine up that high, i would like my ignition to be able to- to future proof me if nothing else!

turbotoaster · March 18, 2010, 10:34:57 PM

hmm well if you want to rev it that high have you checked on rx7club to see what the really high rpm guys are using, infact find out what ross at dragon was using because he used to rev his to 11k+ probably his setup would cover most things, i did email him about it but he never responded to me.

If your revving that high im assuming big bridgeport and jay intake? You will also need a massive rear a/r to help it keep flowing at that rpm(not trying to tell you how to suck eggs, just like discussing stuff)

12at · March 18, 2010, 10:38:49 PM

Quote from: marco;680227just had a look at the dynatek stuff, from what i can see it is two channel no? so even if i wanted to run these on leading and trailing, it would be around Â£500 for the lot? that seems cheaper than an M&W setup, I could be very tempted. wonder if they would do a group buy?

yes from what ive been told from aus contact and also the site is that for leading you would require the ARC-2 , the universal install kit and one of their dual CDI coils.

Speaking with the guy here who knew nothing all in was around 500 i think.. Could always speak direct with the guys in USA if toaster gets some good info, but i would think we would need min of 5 or 10 units..

turbotoaster · March 18, 2010, 10:57:45 PM

going off what you said mate it looks like this is what we need

Dynatek ARC-2 Â£232.98
Arc-2 Installation Kit Â£54.54
DC1-1 dual output coil Â£120.77

that comes to Â£408.29 which should in theory give us enough spark for our goals.

thats only for leading though, but that does most of the work anyway so i think it might be fine.

Could really do with someone who has 600-700bhp car running water to come on and help as at the moment alot of my info is from rx7club

12at · March 22, 2010, 12:40:01 PM

any feedback as yet?

turbotoaster · March 22, 2010, 12:41:37 PM

i havent heard a word back from then im afraid, you could try emailing them, i havent the ability to ring them over there else i would have done.

This might end up being a case of suck it and see, should work fine though reading all the info on it

12at · March 22, 2010, 01:58:10 PM

I think for now ill give it a miss - will sell the Rice Racing water injection kit if anyones interested..

turbotoaster · March 22, 2010, 04:07:31 PM

how much did you pay for that, when i enquired he wanted a stupid amount of money for something that was really cheap to make

12at · March 22, 2010, 05:33:12 PM

owes me about Â£350 inc all postage and taxes paid

turbotoaster · March 22, 2010, 07:19:19 PM

yes thats pretty much what he wanted from me, i can get the same kit from USA with a water tank for $300(Â£200) but even he said it actually only cost him $140(Â£95) to make the kit so if i could be bothered to contact all the same place he did theres a big saving to be made.

Did yours come with a tank, as im sure he wanted about Â£300 for a little metal tank haha

turbotoaster · March 23, 2010, 04:42:03 PM

bit of an update, just found out that some of the guys in australia are using the ARC2 on there rotarys, I think rice racing actually use it on there 700whp pump gas car, just trying to find out now whether to use a single dual coil or 2 single coils and i think im gonna go for that system