Porting guru\'s

Started by Fats, September 07, 2009, 09:42:55 PM

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Fats

Right then who\'s the people i need to see for a good porting job??

I\'ve seen a few names on here but im after people\'s experience\'s with other poeples work if you now what i mean.

I was thinking half bridge mainly for the brap brap!!!!!

Andy

L18M

you can get some brap brap on uber large extended street ports (thats what i\'ve heard) im sure others will / can clarify :)
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

BlitzBoy

My experiance of the Oldones porting has been very good :D he is a perfectionist in his porting
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i get mine done by carl hayward. hes very good also

AshRX


tguillemin

I got mine done by Hayward Rotary and he cannot be faulted, very very good and extremely helpful with anything and everything.

skybusr34

Quote from: tguillemin;644161I got mine done by Hayward Rotary and he cannot be faulted, very very good and extremely helpful with anything and everything.

really. . hmmmmm
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G@NDY

^ as above ;)

Era is the best porter (is that a word) in the country. End of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Although I havent seen any of jaydees work.
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tguillemin

Have you had probs wid him then

mx1311

oldone all day long, a perfectionist to say the least

skybusr34

Quote from: tguillemin;644401Have you had probs wid him then


me personally not used them. seen some of the porting when engines have been ripped out. not to what i call perfectionist standard..

i wouldnt go to a dentist for a hair cut.

same with having work done on my rex. if ya get my drift.


before i get accused of witch hunting im not... not slagging off their engine build quality. just saying porters are better at porting etc   :-)
if i had 8 hour to cut down a tree. i`d spend 6 sharpening the axe

Bob Monkhouse

I\'d like to put my tuppence worth in (for what its worth-tuppence)? What is a porter?  My experience in porting didn\'t come from someone teaching me, its not a skill that you go to college to learn, its  a skill that can only be gained by practice. When I was at college off hand grinding- to give it an engineering term-was done by unskilled people and in five years of an engineering apprenticeship, six years at college and two years at uni I don\'t think it was mentioned once.Someone who may have a good reputation at porting may not be a good tuner or engine builder, though of course they should be.I have probably more porting experience than most though not on rotarys, having \'ported\' hundreds if not thousands of two stroke barrels,casings,manifolds etc.I also used to make my own barrels, cylinder heads, cranks,,etc.The \'skill\' involved in riving lumps of metal out comes in a steady hand and knowledge learned over years and yes, I\'ve done some .... ups in my time,\'You learn by your mistakes\'. Any engineer worth his salt who is too arrogant to admit making mistakes has never pushed any boundaries, and yes, my mistakes have cost me money( you don\'t do it twice when you\'re paying for it)!!! Anyone who knows anything about American muscle will probably have heard of the Boss 302 Mustang, the ports were that big the engine wouldn\'t produce power under 5000rpm and this was supposed to be a road car! I can\'t comment on anyone elses \'porting\'(lets face it, there is a lot more to tuning an engine than just making the holes bigger)but what I have seen of Carls porting is of a neat, well worked job on the housings and so on I\'ve seen in his place.As for other peoples work,I can\'t comment and certainly wouldn\'t have sly digs at people over the Internet,If I didn\'t like somebodys work then they wouldn\'t get my business.As for different types of porting, the work Ihave done on our Grants FD(the first rotary I have ever worked on) has resulted in the rough idle of a bridge-a monster street port apparently- without the .... poor fuel \'economy\' ahem- of a bridge. Unfortunately I can\'t find the timing diagram that I did at the time so I can\'t say exactly what the size of them is in degrees but Carl did say they were a little bit bigger (well alright then, a lot)than he would have gone. Carl mapped the car and seemed impressed with a first time effort from me. Is it quick? Well I think so but theres always a faster one out there, as long as Grant is happy is all I\'m bothered about.Moral of this saga? Well ,I\'m a \'porter\' but I certainly can\'t map RX7s!!! (Just to give you some idea of how much porting I\'ve done over the 35years- Iended up with carpal tunnel syndrome due to using porting tools)!Bob.

fly

What kind of tools do you use Bob? Ive ported 2 FD engines now using a dremel, they were bother mild street ports though so nothing too taxing.

BlitzBoy

Quote from: Bob Monkhouse;647120I\'d like to put my tuppence worth in (for what its worth-tuppence)? What is a porter?  My experience in porting didn\'t come from someone teaching me, its not a skill that you go to college to learn, its  a skill that can only be gained by practice. When I was at college off hand grinding- to give it an engineering term-was done by unskilled people and in five years of an engineering apprenticeship, six years at college and two years at uni I don\'t think it was mentioned once.Someone who may have a good reputation at porting may not be a good tuner or engine builder, though of course they should be.I have probably more porting experience than most though not on rotarys, having \'ported\' hundreds if not thousands of two stroke barrels,casings,manifolds etc.I also used to make my own barrels, cylinder heads, cranks,,etc.The \'skill\' involved in riving lumps of metal out comes in a steady hand and knowledge learned over years and yes, I\'ve done some .... ups in my time,\'You learn by your mistakes\'. Any engineer worth his salt who is too arrogant to admit making mistakes has never pushed any boundaries, and yes, my mistakes have cost me money( you don\'t do it twice when you\'re paying for it)!!! Anyone who knows anything about American muscle will probably have heard of the Boss 302 Mustang, the ports were that big the engine wouldn\'t produce power under 5000rpm and this was supposed to be a road car! I can\'t comment on anyone elses \'porting\'(lets face it, there is a lot more to tuning an engine than just making the holes bigger)but what I have seen of Carls porting is of a neat, well worked job on the housings and so on I\'ve seen in his place.As for other peoples work,I can\'t comment and certainly wouldn\'t have sly digs at people over the Internet,If I didn\'t like somebodys work then they wouldn\'t get my business.As for different types of porting, the work Ihave done on our Grants FD(the first rotary I have ever worked on) has resulted in the rough idle of a bridge-a monster street port apparently- without the .... poor fuel \'economy\' ahem- of a bridge. Unfortunately I can\'t find the timing diagram that I did at the time so I can\'t say exactly what the size of them is in degrees but Carl did say they were a little bit bigger (well alright then, a lot)than he would have gone. Carl mapped the car and seemed impressed with a first time effort from me. Is it quick? Well I think so but theres always a faster one out there, as long as Grant is happy is all I\'m bothered about.Moral of this saga? Well ,I\'m a \'porter\' but I certainly can\'t map RX7s!!! (Just to give you some idea of how much porting I\'ve done over the 35years- Iended up with carpal tunnel syndrome due to using porting tools)!Bob.

All have to say Bob, "paragraphs are a great invention", I gave up trying to read your post after the first line hahahahahahahahaahah :cheers
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark