How much BHP to hit a 10 second 1/4 in a FD

Started by MARKPRIOR, September 10, 2009, 07:31:19 PM

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MARKPRIOR

My FD3S is getting rebuilt soon thought i may aswell upgrade a few things if needed to hit 500+

question is is 500 enough to see a 10s 1/4?

what will i need to upgrade to hit the 500+?

Quick Spec

Large Street port
Ported Upper & lower inlet manifolds
Garrett T04Z Turbo
Stainless Tubular Manifold
60mm External wastegate with Screamer Pipe
Blitz Front Mounted Intercooler
Koyo Alloy Radiator
Uprated secondary fuel rail with 1680cc injectors
Adjustable aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
K & N air filter
Custom 3" downpipe from turbo
3" de-cat/mid pipe
Blitz nur spec back box
Bosch 044 fuel pump
Cooling mist Water & Methanol injection system
Alloy hard pipes
 
ELECTRONICS
 
Apexi Power FC ECU with hand controller
GReedy Profec B spec 2 Boost controller
Turbo Timer
Coolingmist water injection progresive controller
Alpine CD head unit
 
CHASSIS
 
Ultralite Atec 2 18" wheels 8.5" front 9.5" rear
Falken FK453 tyres
Tein Type RA coilovers
Front & Rear strut Braces

AtomicRex

If you need the Teins I have a second hand set on offer...and we supply bosch fuel pumps :)
 
Why do you need a turbo timer to hit 10s?? lol

MARKPRIOR

lol just copied it off the for sale ad :D

thats my current spec just after what if anything needs replacing to hit the 10\'s /500hp+

rx7boy

Quote from: AtomicRex;640634Why do you need a turbo timer to hit 10s?? lol

I heard the Alpine Head unit, is at least a 10bhp gain !! :spank:spank:spank
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now now boys....1st is to get a bigger turbo....some drag radials. Diff, braces etc!!!!
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m4drx

you need alot more than power. setup is everything. weight, grip etc etc
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MARKPRIOR

well decided i am going to have a bash at it all things going well so will be out to pick brains etc.....

hairyhoover

It\'s not all about power matey!! Somebody in the states got there on standard ports with a small gt35r!

MARKPRIOR

so deffinatly possible with what i have then, good to hear

BlitzBoy

yes you will need to have roughly be at 530bhp to 540ish at the Flywheel. So about another 50 hp on what you have now, so you probably need to be running 1.4 to 1.5 BAR boost.
You will need softer suspension,tein RA are track focused dampers rather then Drag,drag spec tires,a clutch type diff,diff brace
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new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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BlitzBoy

and loads of seat time to get it in the sweet spot for a 10
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

MARKPRIOR

ooo looking forward to trying :D thought the suspension would need sorting, am i right in thinking i need a nice soft rear strut?

BlitzBoy

you need to change all four coilovers and springs to a soft drag spec, like HKS Drag coilovers or they are companies that can build you some coilovers for Drag and soft springs. This allows the car to squat and stay squatted for the launch, this helps minimize wheel hop, improves grip, lessens wheelspin. You need to budget about £1000 for it
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

m1tch

Quote from: BlitzBoy;640728you need to change all four coilovers and springs to a soft drag spec, like HKS Drag coilovers or they are companies that can build you some coilovers for Drag and soft springs. This allows the car to squat and stay squatted for the launch, this helps minimize wheel hop, improves grip, lessens wheelspin. You need to budget about £1000 for it

On my FC - although its not a 10 second drag car, it has the stock springs and dampers - comedy suspension setup as its so soft lol but ive found that this helps get the power down and im aiming for 13s at the next meet whereas someone with the same power (and indeed more) with harder suspension can\'t get near my times lol

You talk about how much power you need for this and that, you can have 1200bhp from a 20B but if you can\'t get the power down onto the track then its pointless lol :)

trotter

Also bear in mind that IIRC, a saving of 1kg in weight is equivalent to 1bhp in power-to-weight ratios which will help you no end on the strip.

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